1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: When you pair your skills with our spices, you get 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: a very potent combination. No matter what's on the menu, 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: McCormick Culinary has the power to make your flavors stand out. 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: A lot of people are afraid of crawl. I'm in 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: New York City, afraid that there's no such thing as 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: a safe neighborhood anymore. It's the mid seventies in New 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: York City. Graffiti covered subway cars rattle through wormholes beneath 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: the streets. New Yorkers saw one result of the city's 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: tight new by Jackman, garbage began to pile up in 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: the streets. The city is bankrupt, and drugs and violence 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: are destroying people's lives. To find them, I'm afraid to 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: be able on the street. And then there's the music scene. 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: Downtown bars with sticky floors like CBGBs and Max's. Kansas 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: City explode with sweat and filth and energy, the birthplace 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: of many a rock legend. And also this guy, everybody 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: think Billy Balls, dead set on making a name for himself. 17 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Billy had a girlfriend named Rebecca. She was bleached blonde 18 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: in a bombshell. You think I'm pretty huh? You think 19 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sugar. I'm one of the few nuts you'll meet. Man. 20 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: She took no ship from anyone. Rebecca and Billy were 21 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: crazy about each other, living in a converted storefront in 22 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: the East Village. Then one night in the summer of 23 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: Rebecca came home to find their front window blown out 24 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: and cops everywhere. Baby boy Billy had been shot right 25 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: could neighbors said the guy who did it? They'd never 26 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: seen him before, A mystery man in a cowboy hat. 27 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: Billy died. His body was sent to a city cemetery, 28 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: buried in a mass grave. Rebecca never had a chance 29 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: to say goodbye, and she never got any answers about 30 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: why Billy was murdered. I'd like to read you. As 31 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: the years went by, the injustice and unanswered questions turned 32 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: to an addiction and explosions of rage that would nearly 33 00:02:54,120 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: tear her life apart. Now, almost forty years after Billy 34 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: was killed, it's time to get Rebecca some answers from 35 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: crime town. I'm io till it right, and this is 36 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: the ballad of Billy Balls. I'm nowhere. You know, one 37 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: of our best friends was all of a sudden murdered 38 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: and was dead and it seemed really suspicious. It seemed 39 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: more like an execution to me. It was fishy from 40 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: the start. They were coming in to raid for I 41 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: think drugs. You know, he was accused of litting somebody off. 42 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. It was some political thing, and I 43 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: don't know if if it was terrorists. Some bigger pieces 44 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: missing here, and I think it lies in what the 45 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: fuck was Billy up to? Chapter one, Billy Balls and 46 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: his baby girl. Alrighty, I think we are good to go. 47 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'm gonna follow you on a 48 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: mild day in December. It feels like it warmed up 49 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, My producer Austin and I head 50 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: off to meet Billy's girlfriend Rebecca at her apartment. She 51 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: still lives in the East Village. All right, we're on 52 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: Third Street between second Half in the Bowery. This was 53 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: a gas station. It's now the Bowery Hotel. Things have 54 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: changed here. Rebecca has not How about a whole light? 55 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you can't see is that? She just turned 56 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: on a lamp and pointed at a disco ball that's 57 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: installed in the ceiling. Rebecca is tall, rail thin, with 58 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: sinewy muscles wrapped around her bones. She's dressed all in 59 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: black with tattered cargo sweatpants and a ripped tank top. 60 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: A high ponytail dangles down her back. She crosses her 61 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: small apartment to a pot simmering on the stove last 62 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: night in the middle of the night. Take a look. 63 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: Come on, it's it's the direct Blood Transfusion and it 64 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: has Spanish smoked popers. Well, let's let's do you want 65 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: to sit down? And Rebecca doesn't own a couch, so 66 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: we sit on a futon and she pulls out an 67 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: oversized brown leather folder. What is this? This is Billy's portfolio? Yes, 68 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: oh shit? Should I open it? You want open up? 69 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: You can open it? Oh my god, this is Billie's 70 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: resume is William Heightsman and then there's his phone number. 71 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: He was William Heightsman on paper, but around town he 72 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: was just Billy Ball. She played in CDGS Lots and 73 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: Max's that's Billy. He played rock and roll piano, saying 74 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: like a motherfucker, and he dressed the part. Guy wasn't 75 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: a big fan of wearing shirts. Huh no, because that's 76 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: his stage, of which she wears just skin. Okay, look 77 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: how hot he is. He's so fucking sexy. So this 78 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: is a picture of Billy, uh was his hand and 79 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: his parents. I don't know what he's doing, scratching his balls, 80 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: no doubt. And he's got a cigarette hanging out of 81 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: his mouth. Oh god, I can't even points his photograph. 82 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: It's sacrilegious. Okay, look at him. Oh he's so hot. 83 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: Another photo, this time Billy's joined by a bleached blonde 84 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: who carries herself like Grace Jones, statuesque and glamorous. That's 85 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: me scratching the bottom of my nose and that that's 86 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: my that's my ass. You know. The scird photo shoot 87 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: of you guys together, you know, Billy together. You know 88 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: it's great. Yeah, I'm not kidding, right, you look delirious 89 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: happy in this picture. Yeah, m hmm. From I Gotta 90 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: tell the Storm now, Yeah, I came here when her sixteen, 91 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Rebecca's story begins with her driving clear across the country 92 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: towards the big city lights of Broadway as a teenager. 93 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: It's just like a little very tuned antenna, a little 94 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: wild animal with just an instinct that I gotta go. 95 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: Coming around Fort Street, tenth Avenue, where you take the 96 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: curve from the Greyhound bus station with and you see 97 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: the curtains. Everybody has the windows open, you know, coming 98 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: in and the thickest, stickiest, sweatiest part of the summer, 99 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: there's a height of healths kitchen. You can hear all 100 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: the music coming out in The music is plumped and 101 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: hiluptuous by the wet humidity in the air, and the 102 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: sound is in the air. What's hanging in the full 103 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: up suousness of the sticky humidity and the stickiness and 104 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: the sweat. Those hot skinny man with the A shirts 105 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: leaning up the window with the anemia and their black beard. 106 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, oh my god, shouting some ship 107 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: to bring up the fucking bread or whatever, shouting down 108 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: at your wife, you stupid idiot, or throwing the flower 109 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: pot out the window to clunk. Some jerk on ahead. 110 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: People swag walking down the street. They'll kill you. And 111 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: they're on fire. They're angry about some ship. And then 112 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: there's a little preteen prostitutes and gay prostitutes. And on 113 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: the sidewalk the black DRDs have like tent maybe three 114 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: ft high for turning tricks. And that inside the town 115 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: is mattresses where they're going in and charging people money 116 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: to go and fuck, we'll get a blowjob. It's undeniable. 117 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: It's all part of each other, the sounds, the whistling up, 118 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: shouting down, the anger, the sacks, the emotions, the sweat, 119 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: like all this ship, the cycle at the stew of life, 120 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: and that's just so refreshing. Were you ever scared? Scared? 121 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? There's a hair raising place. Some dude 122 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: came behind me on seventy second students said, I'm gonna 123 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: kill you, you know, and I don't know how to 124 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: watch your back and your shoulder and all that ship 125 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: and people would chase you into doors with the intention 126 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: of raping and stabbing your robbing you. The whole place 127 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: was hair raising. So I just I think I might 128 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: be one of those people that comes alive in definitely 129 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: danger and romance. I rented a room for a month 130 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: and it was in a drummer's empty cement loft. It 131 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: had a box springs on sculpted olive green, really disgusting, 132 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: tacky carpet, and that was a no blankets now nothing. 133 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: In the next little abandoned office was a pair, a 134 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: little teenage pair, a little white girl and a little 135 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: black boy that were porn workers, and he would wear 136 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: his bathrobe, you know. And that's where one weekend a 137 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: man showed up named Billy Balls. That's after the break. 138 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: I met him one Saturday afternoon. It's and twenty one 139 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: year old Rebecca is living in New York City. She's 140 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: about to meet the love of her life, the wild musician, 141 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: the disruptor, Billy Balls. I'm wearing, by the way, black 142 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: velveteen step up the side torito or pants, kind of 143 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: capri length, and a red swede kind of fifties jacket 144 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: with some paint splattering on it and short bleached blonde hair. 145 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: And uh, the elevator opens as it's becoming early dusk, 146 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: m and off the elevator comes Billy Balls, wearing knee 147 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: pads and black leather roller skates and a black leather jacket. 148 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: And he has a Sicilian aninia his black hair and 149 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: pale skin and a little razors stubble on the chest 150 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: and a pinch to the devil right here on the chin. 151 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: You know. We take one look at each other and 152 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: my god, that was fucking it. That's it. It's called love. 153 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: It first sight, like a landslide. Just overwhelming magnet attraction, 154 00:13:53,240 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: like a magnet cling and he says to me, to 155 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: a cigarette, And we made our way a couple of 156 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: floors up to an abandoned garment floor with couches and 157 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: garment degree and we got it on within twenty minutes 158 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: of setting eyes upon each other. And that was it. 159 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: You know. He was there for a rehearsal with Roy 160 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: the drummer, and he's put a chair in front of 161 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: his electric piano which was on a ironing board, you know, 162 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: and proceeded to play and sing. For me, this is 163 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: Billy just too much. He was so fucking real and 164 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: so talented and a sad get up. And I was 165 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: like my cheeks were like flushing across. It was like 166 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm naked under the spot, like like embarrassment, the nakedness, 167 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: the revealing this, you know. And I remember thinking, oh 168 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: my god, you know, because I knew with just my instincts, 169 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: this is deciding fate for eternity, moments of am I 170 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: going to be with this person or not? And I 171 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: I joined him, No, I'm with this person for eternity. 172 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: You're saying, I have a question about this. It's a 173 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: piece of paper, This looks like Billy's handwriting. This is 174 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: a song we wrote together in the bag that winter. 175 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: Can you read it? Yeah, man, it's his handwriting, alright. 176 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: This is the words to the song we wrote. He 177 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: goes hot flashes, hot flashes. It feels more like waves 178 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: of heat. The words hot, hot flashes, hot flashes feels 179 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: more like waves of heat up my spine, into my head, 180 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: hot flashes. It's a sexually explicit song totally about or 181 00:16:55,160 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: gas mouse and the hallucinations during or gas. Most because 182 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: we've got it on five times a day, every single 183 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: day modus operandi. I gave forty pounds in one month 184 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: from that period of holding up in the bed and 185 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: only eating olive oil and the black Jewish Ukrainian bread 186 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: from the bakery on the corner right there, and basically 187 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: never leaving the bed m Eventually, Rebecca and Billy got 188 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: their own place, a converted storefront under a flophouse called 189 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 1: the Valencia Hotel. Thirteen third Avenue was pretty modernistic at 190 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: thirteen third Avenue. You know, he had no heat, he 191 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: had no water, I had no kitchen, but he fixed 192 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: it up. He put sheet rock on the walls and 193 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: five layers of soundproofing on the floor, and and the 194 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: soundproofing was for the because the rehearsal studio is underneath 195 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 1: and the cella, so it was loud anyway. And the 196 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: captain's bed near the back with a little bar refrigerator 197 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: and a hot plate made of nice baths hub for 198 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: me and made me a nice makeup mirror with big 199 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: light bulbs. He drilled the holes to put the sockets, 200 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: and he made me a beautiful makeup mirror sliding glass doors. 201 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: But you can tell she gets lost in memories of 202 00:18:50,119 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: this place, a popper's palace that Billy built just for her. Yeah, 203 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: there's pictures right there in the house. Yeah, there's a 204 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: picture that let's just see it. It's a polaroid in color. 205 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: Come on. In this photo of Rebecca and Billy in 206 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: their storefront, sheet rock covers the walls. A single abstract 207 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: painting hangs above their bed, and Rebecca has a very 208 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: particular look, no eyebrows at all, eyebrows painted on. Really 209 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: was showing me how to do my eyebrows to flatter 210 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: my features. It sounds like Billy showed you a lot 211 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: of stuff in their new home. Billy pushed Rebecca to 212 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: chase her dreams of a life in show business. He 213 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: is a master showman, and I was going to be 214 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: a fashion model and better actress. I knew that when 215 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: I was a kid. And all the things that you're 216 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: talking about have to do with some form of show business, 217 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: like for photography, the eyebrows or you know, singing. This 218 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: is gonna pick that bab He told me his the 219 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: technique to learn to sing, you know, correctly. He's kind 220 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: of tall. He's really fine. Someday I hope to make him. 221 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: Rebecca found her person. There was no one else on 222 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: earth for either of them, and they knew it. He 223 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: was Billy Balls and she was his baby girl. But 224 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: like when you and Billy were alone, like we were 225 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: alone a lot. He made a point of it, who 226 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: lock the door and we will be alone? What would 227 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: you do that one we were in love? What do 228 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: you think we did? The bed was the heart of 229 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: the home. You know. He had a TV and we 230 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: were watched nineteen forties Hollywood movies from the bed all 231 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: night sometimes in between being in love and uh, we 232 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: just talk. When I've been around birds, you said, why 233 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: because all my life, when I was growing up, my 234 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: brother had birds always and you have a tape one 235 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: of those intimate conversations, mostly harmless, little birds, all of them. 236 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: Where did you keep all of those birds? Isn't that 237 00:21:53,160 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: pronounced a vary? Yeah? I don't know. Maybe I've been 238 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: playing it wrong all my life. Where was that avery? Yeah? 239 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: In our backyard? Wherever was you mean he had covered 240 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: with glass or so there? Yeah? Wiing like sounds like 241 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: Rebecca and Billy were together for years five years common 242 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: law changed from seven to five. We legally fell into 243 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: the common law married category, even though he proposed to me, wait, 244 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: can you tell me that story when you when did 245 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: that happen? Is this baby? Girls, you want to get married, 246 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: if you want to have a baby, whatever you want 247 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: to do. And it says when you make a first 248 00:22:54,200 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: million dollars? Yeah, after the break the day that changed everything. 249 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: First of all, it was two right, uh huh. And 250 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: it was a summertime. Any idea of the month? Yeah, 251 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: like me, June, you don't know the day. I've blocked 252 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: it out to fully that My mind just blocked at 253 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: the funk out And uh I was visiting Jade that evening. 254 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: Rebecca remembers that in the early summer she was visiting 255 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: a friend on set, and that she walked back almost 256 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: four miles to the home she shared with Billy. And 257 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: I come up to the storefront on Avenue where we lived, 258 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: and there's orange, the orange tape all over and somehow 259 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: it's open, as if a window is broken or something 260 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: like that, because it was all open, and there's like 261 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen overcoated dicks rummaging around in my house. 262 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: By overcoated dicks, she means, the police. You could see 263 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: them mealing around in our house and tossing ship and 264 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: turning shipped upside down, our furniture, all our things, all 265 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: our things is really every little thing is a very 266 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: special thing, you know. And uh. I went to red 267 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: on the corner of the news stand, the gay dude 268 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: with the glasses and the red hair, with the cut 269 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: off sleeve jeans jacket, and I says, what the fund 270 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: is going on? And he says something happened and there 271 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: someone was shot. And I went in there and I 272 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: crossed the tape and they says, you can't come in here, 273 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: and I says, this is my house. I need to 274 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: change my shoes, and he says, you can't come in here. 275 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: I felt like, I was so fucked up. I didn't 276 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: know what was going on. And I went around the 277 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: corner in our car, hit his car to Mercury and 278 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: there's men crawling around in there. They were undercover dicks, 279 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: and I said, I ran down the street. I said, 280 00:25:54,760 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: get the funk out of our car. And says William Heinzman. 281 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: Shot is shot five times and he's in such and 282 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: such hospital. And I ran from one hospital to the next. 283 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: I was on warrior mode, you know, in high warrior mode. 284 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: I was really on a war path to get to 285 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: Billy and to find out what the funk was going on, 286 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: you know. In the next chapter of The Ballad of 287 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: Billy Balls, Rebecca says goodbye to the love of her 288 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: life and goes looking for answers. Crime town is Zack 289 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: Stewart Pontier and Mark smirlin The Ballad of Billy Balls 290 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: is hosted by me Io Tillet Right and made in 291 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: partnership with Cadence thirteen. The show is produced by me 292 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: Kevin Sheppard and Ryan Swigert. Our senior producer is Austin Mitchell, 293 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: editing by Zach Stewart Pontier and Mark Smirling, fact checking 294 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: by Jennifer Blackman. This episode was mixed by Sam Bear. 295 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 1: Sound designed by Ryan Swigert and Sam Bear. Music by 296 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: Kenny qc Yak. Our title track is Dark Allies by 297 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: Light Asylum. Archival research by Brennan Reese. If you want 298 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: to know more about my story, you can pick up 299 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: my memoir Darling Days, or find me on the internet. 300 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: Um Io loves You Everywhere Thanks to Drew Nellis, Jesse Rudoy, 301 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: Ula Culpa, Jamie Raisin Wade Slipkin, Daniella Aria, rachel Leie Wright, 302 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: Emily Wiederman, Green Card Pictures, Alex Weinberg, Alessandro Santuro, Bill Clegg, 303 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Shannon Funcius and Bruno Coviello, Ben Davis, Orn Rosenbaum and 304 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: the team at Cadence thirteen, and of course, Rebecca, without 305 00:28:35,960 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: whom none of this would be possible while and spout 306 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: the thoughts out