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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode one six one of

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Speaker 1: the Hemor Territory Podcast. I am your host, Brad Rowland,

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Speaker 1: coming to you deeper than that here on a Sunday

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Speaker 1: evening in March, and I'm joined as I always am,

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Speaker 1: by Scott Coleman. Scott, we were fearing some bad news

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Speaker 1: and instead it was not really bad news. That's a

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Speaker 1: rare feeling. Huh, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Hello, Brad? Isn't it nice to do a podcast after

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Speaker 2: an injury? Scare a very very very scary potential injury

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Speaker 2: to an important player for this team, and lo and behold,

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Speaker 2: after everything that went wrong a year ago, the Braves

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Speaker 2: finally seemingly came out on the right side of an injury.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we're talking about Jerks and Profar, who thankfully

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Speaker 2: seems like he's gonna be okay. And I mean, frankly,

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Speaker 2: when I saw that injury yesterday afternoon, I thought it

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Speaker 2: was the worst and I thought we were going to

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Speaker 2: have to do a really unpleasant podcast tonight. But thankfully

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Speaker 2: it is not that way at all.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And if anybody missed this number one, you

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Speaker 1: should listen to our show from Saturday that our colleagues

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Speaker 1: Sean Coleman and Stephen Tolbert did reacting to the injury

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Speaker 1: before the news that we know now is pretty good news,

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Speaker 1: but I agree with you, it did not look good.

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Speaker 1: And then there was a report that it was going

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Speaker 1: to be Monday before we find out the results of

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Speaker 1: Jersey and Prosfar's injury. He had an MRA, sorry an

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Speaker 1: X ray right away that was negative. So I was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, not broken. But of course that's not the

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Speaker 1: end of the story. I always gonna have an MRI

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Speaker 1: or a SATs scan or something else. And we actually

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Speaker 1: got a little bit of a leak. I will say.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this podcast late Sunday night. The Brave not

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Speaker 1: released anything official on Jerson Profar. With that said, reading

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Speaker 1: between the lines as we often do on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: I am fairly confident that they told the Beat guys

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Speaker 1: some information today because they all had the same thing. Bowman,

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Speaker 1: I think Ken Sagur is down there for the AGAC

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Speaker 1: right now in justice place at the moment, but multiple

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Speaker 1: people have similar phrasing, similar reporting, and the expectation is

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Speaker 1: long story short, it's a risk injury. Obviously, people could

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Speaker 1: see the video if they want to. It didn't look great.

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Speaker 1: If you don't, if you don't believe us, you can

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Speaker 1: watch it for yourself. It's out there for you. But

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Speaker 1: CT scan and basically it's a bone bruce. That's what

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Speaker 1: they're saying. At least that's what the reporting is pointing to,

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Speaker 1: and of all the things that it could have been,

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Speaker 1: that's probably the best case scenario, especially because again it's

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Speaker 1: March knife right now, opening days eighteen days or I

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Speaker 1: guess seventy day if you're listening to this podcast on Monday,

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Speaker 1: and all signs right now as we're recording this points

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Speaker 1: of him being at least on track to be good

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Speaker 1: to go by that. So he couldn't play in a

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Speaker 1: game tomorrow. He has an injury. But uh, again, pretty

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Speaker 1: good news, Scott.

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Speaker 2: All things considered, great news, and risk injuries are scary.

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Speaker 2: What Profar did on Saturday afternoon is something that we

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Speaker 2: have unfortunately seen a lot in baseball where an outfielder

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Speaker 2: goes all out for a ball, which going all out

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Speaker 2: and diving for a baseball and spring training.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please don't do that, Jerckson, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I get it, man, These are competitors. The instincts kick

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Speaker 2: in all of that, but let's not have somebody shatter

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Speaker 2: their wrist in a spring training game. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Not only do you have bones, but of course many

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Speaker 2: tendons and ligaments. You know. I kind of feared the

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Speaker 2: fact that the X ray initially showed no break, or

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Speaker 2: at least no obvious break, that was encouraging. Brian Snitker

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Speaker 2: But even with Austin Reiley and Orlando Arcia the last

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Speaker 2: And then two days later it's revealed that they have

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Speaker 2: So very very good news here for propar and for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned it just now. I mean the risk

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Speaker 1: and you know, you can't get around your risk being

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Speaker 1: You know, when I say that there's absolutely no chance

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Speaker 1: have been a long time. And thankfully for us Scott,

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Speaker 1: we don't have to do the deep dive version of this,

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Speaker 1: but just to say this out loud, you know, if

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Speaker 2: This point, and the Braves have a really tough schedule

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Speaker 2: You're playing some really good teams. You are already down

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Speaker 2: I mean, it could have been half of a season,

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Speaker 2: a really bad surgery. So thank goodness, after everything that

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Speaker 2: let's hope that Jerkson's back out there sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: Totally agree we can leave there for now for the

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Speaker 1: so if you listen to this podcast Monday afternoon evening,

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Speaker 1: we might have an update by them and we'll cover

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Speaker 1: the meantime, a giant exhale from all of Braves Country

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Speaker 1: at this point, all right, Scott, let's get into some

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, Sunday's game was not the most enticing

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Speaker 1: previously were covered by Shawn and Stephen. It was a

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Speaker 1: What do you think of? What you what was out

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Speaker 1: there for Smish? Obviously he's a great note right now,

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Speaker 2: It was not a great start for Age smith Shaver

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Speaker 1: done this this winter, it's been like, all right, one, two, three, four,

433
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Speaker 1: and he's five. If your fifth best guy is not

434
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Speaker 1: a lot for the bullpen, it's kind of strange. But

435
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Speaker 1: I think that no one's saying he is, so it's

436
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Speaker 1: interesting to me.

437
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that Braves would like to

438
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Speaker 2: carry days Beell to begin the season. I do agree.

439
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Speaker 2: I would have more confidence in Day's Bell than any

440
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Speaker 2: of these other guys battling for a roster spot. But again,

441
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 2: the dreaded Minor league option for Day's Bell is not

442
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Speaker 2: it's not gonna help him. No, we'll see how the

443
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Speaker 2: next couple of weeks ago and in in a moment,

444
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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the guys who are battling

445
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Speaker 2: for these three or maybe four bullpen spots, But I

446
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Speaker 2: think it's time to see what daze Bell can do.

447
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 2: I know he has the minor league option, but he's

448
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Speaker 2: not young. I mean, he's been around for a long time.

449
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Speaker 2: He was quite good last season in a small sample

450
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Speaker 2: with the Braves. The command worries me, but he also

451
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Speaker 2: has just such good stuff and a ton of swing

452
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Speaker 2: and miss with days Bell, that's really gonna give him

453
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Speaker 2: a chance to be a high leverage or even medium

454
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Speaker 2: leverage option. And I mean, frankly, you know what, Rice

455
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Speaker 2: e Iglacias is locked into the ninth, if Pierce Johnson

456
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Speaker 2: is more or less locked into the eighth, or maybe

457
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Speaker 2: the seventh, if if there's a weird lineup that night.

458
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Speaker 2: I mean, you need a second righty in middle relief.

459
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Speaker 2: Like that's a full stop need for this team. And

460
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Speaker 2: if I had to guess of everyone here, I would

461
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Speaker 2: pick Dayzebell to fill that role for the season. But

462
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Speaker 2: clearly because he has options and because other guys in

463
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Speaker 2: camp have performed well this spring, it is a real

464
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Speaker 2: battle for three or four bullpen spots. And I don't know,

465
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Speaker 2: I mean, is maybe that's not the best situation in

466
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Speaker 2: the world, but I think there is enough depth here

467
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Speaker 2: the Braves are going to be okay at the end

468
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Speaker 2: of the day.

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Speaker 1: Just what it was the highest ceiling.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair to say.

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Speaker 1: And look, Bowman, what he wrote was definitely pointing towards

472
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Speaker 1: Day's about being likely to be in the bullpen. I

473
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Speaker 1: think we agreed that he's probably likely. It's just if

474
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Speaker 1: you come down to a weird situation, might you could

475
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Speaker 1: just option him? Because you can? And to your point,

476
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Speaker 1: you mentioned him not being young. I wonder if you

477
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Speaker 1: pull Braves fans and they'd know that he's twenty eight

478
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Speaker 1: years old. It feels like Dazbell is like this young

479
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Speaker 1: hot shot. He's not. He's twenty years old.

480
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Speaker 2: If you would have pulled me like a month ago, Brad,

481
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Speaker 2: I would have told you he was twenty four years old.

482
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Speaker 1: Well that's what I mean.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's I think we're doing a bullpen preview

484
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Speaker 2: or something, and I was looking at Day's Bell and

485
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Speaker 2: whoa wait, really he's late twenty, you know, and every

486
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Speaker 2: now and then a prospect to not even a prospect,

487
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Speaker 2: but someone who has been around the system for a

488
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Speaker 2: while in your mind, you just kind of pigeonhole them

489
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Speaker 2: into one thing. But I was like, wow, days ball.

490
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Speaker 2: He's going to be thirty in like eighteen months. He's

491
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Speaker 2: not a super young man at this point.

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Speaker 1: It had him with Baldwin, I think one of es, specially

493
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Speaker 1: Baldwin's age on the last show that he's about to

494
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Speaker 1: be twenty four, and we got to we got a

495
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Speaker 1: comment to our Twitter it was like, I thought Balbman

496
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Speaker 1: was twenty and I was like, well, nope, he's almost

497
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Speaker 1: twenty four. So people just you know, prospects in age.

498
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Speaker 1: It's still a little bit strange. And anyway, Daniel was

499
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Speaker 1: not a young to your point, not a super young player,

500
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Speaker 1: So it might be just time to forget it and say,

501
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Speaker 1: all right, you're in the bullpen. And I'd be on

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Speaker 1: board with that for the record, That's what I would

503
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Speaker 1: be doing.

504
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Speaker 2: If the Braves are just dead set on giving some

505
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: of these veterans without options two weeks in the bullpen,

506
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Speaker 2: three weeks in the bullpen, just before they shake hands

507
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Speaker 2: and say goodbye, maybe they really want to see if

508
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Speaker 2: Hector Nerris has anything left in the tank.

509
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

510
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Speaker 2: I mean, they obviously like him because they signed him.

511
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Speaker 2: A week could go, but nears unless there's some weird

512
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Speaker 2: contract clause he has to be in the major leagues.

513
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Speaker 2: So if your decision is Day's Bell or nears, I

514
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Speaker 2: could see them get saying sorry, Day's Bell, go to

515
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Speaker 2: Gwinett for a few weeks. We'll call you in a

516
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Speaker 2: little while. Even if that's maybe not giving the Braves

517
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Speaker 2: the absolute best bullpen on day one. And it also it.

518
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't necessarily be that decision. You know, you kind of

519
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: have to fill the other spots first. If this is

520
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Speaker 1: spot number eight, it'd be so much easier to understand that,

521
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Speaker 1: like give and take, But like, who are the other three?

522
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

523
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Speaker 1: If it's like Nerus or days Beell, I have a

524
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Speaker 1: hard time getting to three more. But let's just say

525
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Speaker 1: the name. So Hector Nerus is the newest edition. If

526
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Speaker 1: people don't miss this. He's a thirty five year old veteran.

527
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Speaker 1: Was very good in Houston on the World Series team

528
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Speaker 1: for the Astros a couple of years ago. Was not

529
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Speaker 1: very good last year. Not unpitchable, but not very good.

530
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Speaker 1: And he's old. He's thirty five years old, and he

531
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Speaker 1: was available in what early March, that's late February, whatever

532
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Speaker 1: it was to sign him. That's always something to keep

533
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Speaker 1: an eye on. Then, they have the Perdomo and Polar faction.

534
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Speaker 1: Perdomo is the guy that they have been basically rehabbing

535
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: for a year almost who was not healthy last year.

536
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Speaker 1: Does that looked great in the spring. I think everyone's

537
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: been saying that. He says he's you know, he looks

538
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: great on the mound, he's six eight, two sixty whatever

539
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: he is, but this monster guy, but he's not been

540
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Speaker 1: particularly electric. And then Polar is rule five? Correct if

541
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Speaker 1: I'm just blanking, yeah, Rule five guy swinging miss swing

542
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Speaker 1: and miss guy. But same thing isn't like lighting the

543
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: world on fire. And if you don't know rule five,

544
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Speaker 1: they have to return him, or at least offer to

545
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Speaker 1: return him. He was not on the team to begin

546
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Speaker 1: the season. And then you have the other guys. So

547
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Speaker 1: what do you make of those? I guess we'll a

548
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Speaker 1: couple of those three together. We talked about Nars, Perdomo,

549
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Speaker 1: and Polar. Do you have any feelings and like whether

550
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Speaker 1: your preference would be to keep those guys on the team.

551
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Speaker 1: On March twenty seventh, I.

552
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Speaker 2: Don't think that Hector Naris has appeared in a spring

553
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 2: game with the Braves yet, or if he did, I

554
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: missed it. Admittedly, but I would like to see him

555
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: at least for an appearance or two and see what

556
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Speaker 2: the stuff looks like. He's a veteran, he's been doing

557
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: this a long time, so he's probably someone who can

558
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: get ready pretty fast. If I'm wrong on that, Brad,

559
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Speaker 2: please correct me.

560
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Speaker 1: But I am looking as we speak to make sure

561
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Speaker 1: that you're not so live on the podcast. And then, no,

562
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Speaker 1: he's not Fish and Spring.

563
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Speaker 2: Okay, I think I would have that would have, like,

564
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Speaker 2: you know, stopped my mind for a half second. But

565
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Speaker 2: you know, with with Perdomo, I like the idea of him,

566
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Speaker 2: and I'm tempted to keep Perdomo around because he was

567
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: just really really electric with the Pirates a couple of

568
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Speaker 2: years ago. But if you know he finishes the next

569
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Speaker 2: two and a half weeks without really flashing, isn't racking

570
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: up the strikeouts, isn't overly impressive on the mound, you

571
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Speaker 2: have a decision to make there. And Anderson Polar is

572
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Speaker 2: interesting because Polar has gotten a ton of swing and

573
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Speaker 2: miss I think he struck out like forty five percent

574
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Speaker 2: of the hitters or something crazy he's seen. But he's

575
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Speaker 2: also given up quite a few hits and He's walks

576
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: some batters as well, and as we know, that can

577
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: be a dangerous game to play in relief, I really think.

578
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Speaker 2: I mean, if let's say, for the sake of argument,

579
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Speaker 2: that day's bell is going to be on the opening

580
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: day bullpen, that's three spots. I'm guessing that two of Prodomo,

581
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Speaker 2: Polar and Nerris are going to make it because of

582
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Speaker 2: one other pitcher we're gonna talk about here in a

583
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Speaker 2: second two Maybe one of them only makes it. I

584
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Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, there's also Buck Farmer, There's also

585
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: Niel de los Santos. Jake Diekman is sticking around. I mean,

586
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: there's a lot of maybe not super encouraging options. I mean, again,

587
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Speaker 2: this time a year ago, Aaron Bummer was the seventh

588
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Speaker 2: man in the bullpen, and with basically sixteen days to

589
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: go before opening day, it is very much a competition

590
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Speaker 2: for half of the bullpen spots.

591
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Speaker 1: For sure, it is. And just to give a couple

592
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Speaker 1: of fight numbers on Polar, he has thrown four and

593
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Speaker 1: two thirds innings this spring. He has ten strikeouts. That's fantastic.

594
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: To your point, he also has allowed nine base runners,

595
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: so his whip's like one point nine. You know, Whip's

596
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: not the end of the world, but like it's been

597
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: a base runner fest. Strikeouts are super high, but like

598
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: it's it is very very again tiny sample size, but

599
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: it's been electric at times and not so electric other times.

600
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Speaker 1: And I'm with you on per Domo. You know, we'll

601
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Speaker 1: see the other guy. I think I was surprised by

602
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: the and what Bowman wrote. One thing surprised me the most.

603
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it for you. It's about Nyelle Dla Santos,

604
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: and he's not been a guy that we talked about

605
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: a lot, to be honest, but he wrote Bowman today

606
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: wrote that he is quote more of a favorite than

607
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: a long shot end quote, which got my eyebrow raised

608
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: because I hadn't heard that or seen that. Doesn't mean

609
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: marks for sure, right, but could be. It's probably it's

610
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: coming from somewhere someone told someone told him that. And

611
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Speaker 1: Dela Santos, it's twenty nine years old. He was actually

612
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Speaker 1: quite good before in Cleveland, was not good last year

613
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Speaker 1: with three different teams, but he's looked great in Spring

614
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: by all accounts. It's four it's four appearances, but the

615
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: numbers are literally perfect. He's not a lot of base

616
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: runner in spring kind of what you want. Geno was

617
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: speaking of trying to if you're trying to make a

618
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 1: baseball team, to go out there never allowing anybody to respace.

619
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Speaker 1: But I don't know anything else. I mean, honestly, I

620
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: don't know much about Dale Santos. I just don't. I

621
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: looked at the Sackass profile a little bit. There's some

622
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: highs and lows, like it's not a it's not a

623
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: he's It was kind of similar to a lot of

624
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: these guys where like, he seems to be like a

625
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: fringe major league bullpen option on paper, but he's out

626
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: of major league's sorry, he's out of minor league options

627
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: according to Fangrafts, which I assume is correct. So another

628
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: guy where he wasn't like the big as big of

629
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: a name as Deekman or Farmer when he was signed,

630
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: but a similar ish profile to some of these guys.

631
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Speaker 1: No options, it's one decision and he would keep them.

632
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: Rory A don't and that Bowman phrase gains one phrase.

633
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: But if that's even remotely true, let's just say it's

634
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: a fifty five percent chance to make the bullpen. That's

635
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: higher than I would have guessed.

636
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's the first time you and

637
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: I have said an yell dl Jsantos's name on the

638
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: podcast that we have done the spring.

639
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: If it's not the first time, with the second time,

640
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: it definitely has not been more than wats support us.

641
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again we'll do our normal plug very quickly. Relievers,

642
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: they're volatile, they're great, then they're terrible, then they're good

643
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: than they're terrible. But for Santos, he was really really

644
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: good with Cleveland in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three.

645
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Speaker 2: He was then awful with the Padres, and then he

646
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Speaker 2: went to the Yankees, and then he went to the

647
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: White Sox last year. I mean, the fact that two

648
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: World Series contenders moved on mid season probably tells you

649
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Speaker 2: all you need to know about his performance. But the

650
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: fact that Bowman, I'm sure that Mark heard that from

651
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Speaker 2: somebody around the team that he's again quote, more of

652
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: a favorite than a long shot at this point, and

653
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: the numbers speak for themselves this spring. And then the

654
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: other arm in the bullpen who I think is probably

655
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Speaker 2: in that similar camp of more of a favorite than

656
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Speaker 2: a long shot at this point is probably Buck Farmer.

657
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: Your man local product, Buck Farmer Book Buck. He's versatile,

658
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: he can cover multiple innings, which is something the Braves

659
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: are gonna need in the bullpen now that Jesse Chads

660
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: is gone. I think Farmer has been a successful enough

661
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: reliever with Cincinnati. He's done it for a while. Obviously

662
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: there's a connection locally. I'm sure it would be awesome

663
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Speaker 2: for Buck to make the roster. So I'm guessing that

664
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Speaker 2: if I had to handicap this, just based on two

665
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Speaker 2: weeks to go roughly in the spring, I think the

666
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: big four are locked in. I tend to think Dave's

667
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: Bell is going to be the fifth yep, Buck Farmer

668
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Speaker 2: the sixth. Based on Bowman's comments, I think Dalo Santos

669
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Speaker 2: is what we'll call him, what would be the seventh man?

670
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Speaker 2: That eighth spot's really close. I mean, I could see

671
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Speaker 2: really a case for all of them. I think Perdomo

672
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: probably has the highest upside. I think Polar has maybe

673
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Speaker 2: a leg up because he is the Rule five pick

674
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Speaker 2: and the Braves would have to risk giving him back

675
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Speaker 2: to Miami, although frankly, for fifty thousand dollars, Miami may

676
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Speaker 2: not want to pay it to get him back.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the other Rinkle I forgotten to mention and maybe

678
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: you did and I've just missed it. Perdomo's is left handed,

679
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: and Boman even mentioned in his right up it's like,

680
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: do they want to carry three lefties? And if they do,

681
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: he's the third lefty, Like it's it's like he's kind

682
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Speaker 1: of well, I guess that's not true deep because Jack Deebs,

683
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Speaker 1: the other guy that's we have we have not talked

684
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Speaker 1: about on this show. We have mentioned multiple times before.

685
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Speaker 1: He's the more veteran, retread guy in his mid thirties option,

686
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Speaker 1: whereas Pernomo's the younger, higher ceiling option. But if they

687
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: want a third lefty, it's one of those two guys.

688
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: They don't have to have a third lefty, but if

689
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Speaker 1: they want one.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing they probably will to begin the year. I mean,

691
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Speaker 2: you think about having to go up against show Hey

692
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Speaker 2: and Freddie and Maxwell.

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Speaker 1: That's why I mean, I think it's likely they want

694
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Speaker 1: always they want one. I mean, if I'm Alex, I'm

695
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Speaker 1: gonna have to really not like either of them in

696
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Speaker 1: order to not keep one of the lefties, if I

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Speaker 1: had to guess.

698
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Speaker 2: And that's also maybe that might be the biggest argument

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Speaker 2: against having Day's Bell on is you want a third

700
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: lefty and you want to keep hectorn Airis, or you

701
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: want to keep Anderson Polar and see if the stuff

702
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: is going to play up in real games. I mean,

703
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Speaker 2: without having watched every single inning of every single spring

704
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Speaker 2: training game, where they line drives that Polar is giving up,

705
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: or they soft singles the other way that just happened

706
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: to squeak through. You know, it's it's nearly impossible to

707
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: scout every single spring game, so it's interesting. Again. I think,

708
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: basically four spots up for grabs, you have six or

709
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: seven pitchers battling for them. It would be great if

710
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: you could sneak one or two of these guys to

711
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: Gwinette for depth purposes, and maybe that'll happen. Most of

712
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: them signed as non roster options in February or March

713
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: for a reason. But the bullpen is is for me,

714
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: one of the maybe three or four biggest questions for

715
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Speaker 2: this team all year long. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My only strong take beyond thinking Day's bell as a

717
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Speaker 1: major league believer, is that Farmer is the best of

718
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: this group. And maybe I'm maybe I'm slightly biased, but

719
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Speaker 1: I think if you look at his profile. I'm surprised

720
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't signed my another team to major leage contract.

721
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm still surprised by that. I don't know why

722
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: he was available, honestly, not that he's some great picture.

723
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Speaker 2: He's not.

724
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Speaker 1: He's not a great pitcher, but like he's got an

725
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: era like the in the threes, like in the high threes,

726
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: for like multiple seasons, like in the majors, like on

727
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Speaker 1: real teams. So I don't really get it, but I'll

728
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Speaker 1: be surprised. I think Bumba will be too. I'll read

729
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: the quote that Bowman wrote here, Farmer has quote created

730
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: more reason to assume that he'll be given an opay

731
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Speaker 1: today roster spot end quote. So I think that he's

732
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Speaker 1: the guy I thought the whole time would have surprised

733
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Speaker 1: me almost if he's not, if he's not on the

734
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Speaker 1: team out of the min only guys unless he was

735
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Speaker 1: bad in the spring. He was bad in the spring,

736
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: then write it off. But even the day they signed him,

737
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: it was like kind of clear to me. I think

738
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Speaker 1: even Justin said, this is like he's a little bit

739
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: more of a preferred non roster in by T than

740
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: most guys are. I think he was the inside track

741
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: guy when they signed him, not they promised them anything,

742
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: but I'm sure that was communicated to his agent, like yeah,

743
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: you got a real shot here, buck, Like why.

744
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: Were very similar to Brian day La Cruz in the

745
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: app field, same thing?

746
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, similar, Yeah, somewhar.

747
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: Better than your non roster invitee. Who's gonna get cut

748
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: three weeks in? I mean this upcoming week, we're gonna

749
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 2: see quite a few roster cuts. I think we start

750
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 2: to get to the point in the spring where teams

751
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: really start to evaluate, and without having the exact number

752
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: in front of me, I think the Braves have like

753
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: twenty five players they still need to cut from it.

754
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: They're down. They're down to forty five in camp. I

755
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: checked that a where we're talking about okay, because well

756
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: Stephen was Steven was joking.

757
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: Maybe it was you.

758
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: I think it was Stephen that was like, you could

759
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: convince me that the Braves are just like spinning a

760
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: wheel As to when they announced these cuts, it's like

761
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: one per day right now, Like for whatever reason, they're

762
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: just cutting a random guy that has no chance once

763
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: per day. It's kind of funny how they're doing it.

764
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's still a long way to go, but

765
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: you know, night what eighteen days left? They got time.

766
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: But by the end, and you know this, like the

767
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: last day or two, there's like six guys that get cut.

768
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: They don't wait, they don't wait till the end of

769
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: cut to cut everyone. But they'll do some more obvious

770
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: one in the next.

771
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: Couple of days. And sometimes player agents will hear from

772
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: a team and hey, we just lost our backup. U

773
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: tell the infielder or whatever it is. You know, do

774
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: you get the sense that he's making the team with

775
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: the Braves? If not, maybe you ask out. I mean,

776
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: there's always stuff behind the scenes with players. All those

777
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: veterans are just I mean, they're they're fighting tooth and

778
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: nail for a guaranteed contract, get that money, get your

779
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: six hundred thousand, seven hundred thousand, whatever the minimum is.

780
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: These days so we'll see where it all progresses. But

781
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: I think the next seven days we'll really start to

782
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: get some clarity on who's going to be on the

783
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: big league roster and all that good stuff.

784
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: We absolutely will. We're getting closer and closer and closer,

785
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: and only like we're Lily two weeks away from the

786
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: Braves going out to your neck of the woods for

787
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: their final couple U spring training games in Mesa. I

788
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: believe might have to just pay your way over there.

789
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: I might just have to send you a check to

790
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: take you through to Mesa for a couple of days.

791
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: Tell your employer you can't be at work those couple

792
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: of days. I'm kidding to some degree, but no.

793
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 2: Uh.

794
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: Basic week ahead, the Braves do play, I believe, yeah,

795
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: every day this week, including two games on Saturday, a

796
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: splits squad Endeavor won at one and one at six.

797
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: On Monday, they play against Tampa. On Tuesday play against Detroit.

798
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: Those are both home games and they're both broadcast games,

799
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: I believe, or at we stend some fashion either it

800
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: will be dot dot com or fandul or whatever check

801
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: or vocalistings, but action all week, look to be sure. So, Scott,

802
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: anything you'd like to add about what is going on

803
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: with the Brave right now? We're kind of in the

804
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: in the middle of this check in zone with the Braves.

805
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: But again, the big takeaway by far in the last

806
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: one to four hours is the exhale on drugs' profar.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm glad with that. That's that's the number

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00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: one by a lot. But uh, I wish you have

809
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: any and they else we could sign off, but worker

810
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: folks find you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Thank goodness. Not bad news on Profar. Such a

812
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: sigh of relief, man. I mean this morning when when

813
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: the news came out that Profar's risk was fine, it

814
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: was just such a big exhale for all of us

815
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: us really good news for a really important player. Yeah,

816
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: really good. In terms of my stuff, you can follow

817
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: me a Scott Coleman fifty five if you so choose.

818
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: Why would you? I don't know. We are going to

819
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna plug this one more time. Be on the

820
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: lookout because this time in a week we will have

821
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: an NCAA tournament bracket. Oh yeah, there's Brad. There's a

822
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: chance we might get some Arizona Michigan in the second

823
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: round if we don't both flame out.

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00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: I yeah, I'm in the dark. I'm in the dark

825
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: place on Michigan maskquart Now. They've been playing very poorly

826
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: for about two weeks, so it's making me sad.

827
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 2: That's okay. Thanks is the beat Brad Roland Imitational because

828
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: beating me in a march pool is not hard. But

829
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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna do that. I'll send out the link,

830
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: we'll post the link on YouTube, and we'll tweet it

831
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: out and all that good stuff. But it'll be for

832
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: fun for Braves fans if you want to do a pool.

833
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: Lots of good bragging, right opportunities, So keeping out for that.

834
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm also hoping, fingers crossed. We're working on having an

835
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: awesome guest this upcoming week. So I'm not going to

836
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: say the name in case something falls through. But you've

837
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: you've learned well to not not until until it's recorded.

838
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Don't don't ever tell anyone what's gonna happen in the future.

839
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes things happen sometimes.

840
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: That is a professional tease right there. If you want

841
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: to listen to that show, if and when it comes out,

842
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: if you are not already, hit that subscribe button, follow button,

843
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: whatever it is you need to do. But we really

844
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: do appreciate everybody sticking with the show this spring, and

845
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: we'll be having real life baseball games to talk about

846
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 2: here soon.

847
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Speaker 1: Yes, we will check it out that Scott said. Subscribe

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