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Visit asy 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com slash podcast Here tween Joe Connor to 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: the ten to the five and end of the ends 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: off of the touchdown a baby Hummed film. Here's Craig Griolou, 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki, and thirteen year NFL veteran Drew Stanton. Tis 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: the season we've got free agency of the drafts and 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: then what started from me over the weekend and maybe 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: for some of you allergy season Ni to lie. I 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: got hit hard Saturday and Sunday, So bear with me 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: everyone else. Though, good Drew, it's been a little while 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: since we've had the fortunate pleasure of you here on 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals Red Sea Report, presented by Seat geek, get 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: your seats in a seat. Yeah, it's good to be back. 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know that cactus pollen was a real thing 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: until I'm moved out here to the valley, but apparently 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: it is. It's affecting some of us. Basically, anything that 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: grows out of the ground I'm allergic to. Okay, so 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: when it blooms, you know, april flowers bring Yeah that 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: it's allergy sea basically all year round. But it really 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: got me hard over the valley. I think it's more 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: the pollen. Yeah, it's everywhere, especially when the wind blows. Yeah, 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: all right, No one really wants to hear about our problems. 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: It's been still somewhat quiet on the free agent front. 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: Team did add a tight end Steven Anderson, which will 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: get into later, but there is a growing sense of 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: normalcy when we talk about the draft. There will be 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: a Cardinals Draft party at State Farm Stadium on Thursday, 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: April twenty eighth, from four to nine, presented by Arizona 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: four Dealers, So there is some semblance of NORMALCYMJ admission 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: and parking are both free. It's gonna have a lot 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: of fun out there, and gotasy Cardinals dot Com for 39 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: more information. But here we are three weeks before the 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Draft, and the last time, if 41 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, was the Kyler Murray Draft. And obviously 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals had the first pick on the draft. Here 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be twenty third whether they move up or down, 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: so you know, get there early, watch the draft unfold, 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: see a lot of players come off the board, and 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: hopefully the Cardinals have a you know, an idea what 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: they want to do, whether you know they're picking at 48 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: twenty three, move up a few spots, or move down 49 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: to acquire another third round pick, considering they don't have 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: a fourth and a fifth. So yeah, it's gonna be 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: a good time out there. And obviously, you know, just 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: the build up, it's different than having the eighth picking 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: overall in the sixteenth pick. Now it's twenty third and 54 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: that means you're a playoff team a year ago, and 55 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: it's hard to predict what the team the options might 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: be at pick number twenty. And you talked about no 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: fourth round pick because that was part of the deal 58 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: to move up to select Marco Wilson. No fifth round 59 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: selection because that went to Philadelphia in exchange for tidend 60 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: zach Ertz. So that looks good on paper, more normal seat. 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: We've got off season dates, Drew, and I don't know 62 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: as a veteran how you feel about this, but the 63 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: offseason strength and conditioning program begins April nineteen for the 64 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals and then ten days of OTA's three days 65 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: of mini camp, which we haven't seen over the last 66 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: couple of off seasons. Yeah, I think that's instrumental to 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: getting these young guys back in the building, getting them 68 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: acclimated to what's going on, because they had an entire 69 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: year to digest everything that was thrown at them, and 70 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: sometimes it's a lot, or for most of the guys 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: it is a lot, so you get a chance to 72 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: kind of pull back. I mean, this is the first 73 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: time that these young guys really get a sense of 74 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: what's going on, and then they come back in the 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: building and this strength and conditioning program is as good 76 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: it gets anywhere any facet, you know, with Buddy Morris 77 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: and his team, what he put there, the sports science 78 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: behind everything that they do. I mean, I wouldn't go 79 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: anywhere else. I would come here year round because to 80 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: be able to have Buddy Morris, who was the Strength 81 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: Coach of the Year at your disposal that you can 82 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: walk into this building, you can do everything you need 83 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: to do within the confines of the rules. It's pretty spectacular. 84 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: And then you get into mining camp and you kind 85 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: of start to crawl before you walk, walk before you run. 86 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: That whole process of the build up the training camp 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys because they haven't had 88 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: that luxury. And now you can sit there and you 89 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: can ask questions, you can be able to dive deeper 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: into what's going on. But for some of these young 91 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: guys that are going to be counted on to take 92 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: you instrumental steps for us to be where we want 93 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: to be next year, they can sit there and see 94 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: themselves on film. Why did you do this? You can 95 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: diagnose things. So it's such a valuable asset and tool 96 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: if you approach it that way. If you just come 97 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: in and say, Okay, well I'm here to work out, 98 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: and then I'm here to you know, get my little 99 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: bit of money that I get and then I'm going 100 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: to go hit the golf course. Well then you're missing 101 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: the boat and you're going to be in a really 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: tough position. Come training camp, because this is going to 103 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: be a difficult roster to make. It is voluntary outside 104 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: of the three day mini camp, which is mandatory. But 105 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: to the point that you just made the approach, that 106 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: you make individual approach on how you deal with this offseason. 107 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: And I'll go back to someone that you're very familiar with, 108 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. We heard from him leading into the Super 109 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: Bowl and in post Super Bowl the amount of work 110 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: that he put in on his own and then the 111 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: work with Cooper Cup. Much of that work and the 112 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: success during the regular season happened in the offseason, happened 113 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: during these months right now. He didn't have to do it, 114 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: but he chose to, and obviously we saw what the 115 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: end result was exactly with expectation becomes preparation and you 116 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: realize these things and there's lofty goals that everybody has. 117 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: All thirty two teams that are sitting around the league 118 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: right now aren't saying I'm gonna we're only gonna win 119 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: four games. If you look at any of these teams 120 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: that aren't great, they're optimistic. And that's really what you're 121 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: leaning into because you're trying to come together as a 122 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: unit and you're trying to weather different storms. But the 123 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: only way to be able to do that authentically is 124 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: by spending time together with one another. I mean when 125 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: I first got in the NFL, we started in the 126 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: beginning of March, and it felt like forever just to 127 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: get the training camp. And then training camp was more 128 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: brutal because you didn't have, you know, the luxuries that 129 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: you have now all that's gone by the wayside, so 130 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: you have to get familiar with one of each other 131 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: very quickly. So yes, as a professional, it's going to 132 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: take time away from this facility to be able to 133 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: do that if you want to be as good as 134 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: you want to be and as good as you say 135 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: you want to be. And Matthew Stafford, Cooper cup those 136 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: are the type of guys that you see put the 137 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: work in. And the guys even here that are all 138 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: capable of doing those type of things. The makeup of 139 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: this roster will lead you to believe they'll be the 140 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: exact same way. Yeah, according to the story, they were 141 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: meeting at six am, you know, having coffee, watching film 142 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: and then obviously go out there on the field. And 143 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson does a lot of this with his guys 144 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: in the offseason. So if we fast forward to OTA's 145 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: you know which players in which position groups, Well, clearly 146 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: they've got to figure out what they have in Zavian 147 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: Collins and Isaiah Simmons. And then you know, another year 148 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: with Ron del Moore, in another year with Marco Wilson. 149 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: So to me, it's it's the young players that you know, 150 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: maybe scratch the surface last year, but they're going to 151 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: be counted on more this year, including the guys I mentioned. 152 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: And we see guys make a jump from year one 153 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: to two. Sometimes it takes you from a year two 154 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: to three. I think we see the upside in Jalen 155 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Thompson and Byron Murphy, but I look at Murphy's gotta 156 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: be more consistent. And this is with the time you 157 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: put the work in, you're running at what half speed, 158 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: maybe even less than half speed. So if you're an 159 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: offensive lineman or a defensive lineman, it's more about the 160 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: footwork and the technique. There is no hitting involved. But 161 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: then I always go back to the relationship or the chemistry. 162 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Quarterback pass catcher, whether it's a wide receiver, whether it's 163 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: a tight end, a running back, figuring out, especially if 164 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: it's a new player, and then figuring out where I 165 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: like the football, where I'm going to place the football. 166 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: I like it over my outside shoulder. I preferred over 167 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: my inside shoulder. That all is stuff that can be 168 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: done on air and T shirts and shorts exactly, you know. 169 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: And I think the thing that really my biggest point 170 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: emphasis is always communication, right, getting on the same page 171 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: with everybody. There's a foundation that's been built here now 172 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: with Cliff and with Kyler and with Vans. Really, so 173 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: how can you take that foundation and make it even firmer? 174 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: How can you take that foundation and build on it? 175 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's through communication to your point, you know, 176 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: offensive linement. Yes it's not as physical, but as opposed 177 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: to center making the call and Rodney Hudson being on 178 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: the same page and then trying to tell everybody what's 179 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: going on. You get all five guys on the same page, 180 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: so they're seeing the same thing, they're talking the same language, 181 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: and it's not a matter of communicating it. It's just boom. 182 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: It happens at the push of a button. Everybody knows 183 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: what they're doing. To your point, with the wide receiver 184 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: and a quarterback or a you know, a quarterback and 185 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: a tight end. All of those things really do matter, 186 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: right because it's it's great. Certain guys that I worked with, 187 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: they run routes, even it might be the same route, 188 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: but how they run it on the right side is 189 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: vastly different than how they run on the left side. 190 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: If they break down, when they drop their weight, how 191 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: they come out of their cut? You know, is this 192 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: a speed cut? Is this a breakdown and come out 193 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: of the cut? Is this the right angle that you're at? 194 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: Is this the right coverage we're seeing? So yes, this 195 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: allows you to do those things. Much like on the 196 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, that secondary has to work 197 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: in unison, they're disguising of coverages. How much do we 198 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: do and how active we are at the line of 199 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: scrimmage with our safeties rocking and rolling them, trying to 200 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: hold it the last second. All of that can play 201 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: off of each other because as a quarterback, in a 202 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: well studied quarterback that watches a lot of film in 203 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: this league, like most guys are nowadays, you have to 204 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: be able to see if one guy's out of position, 205 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: you know he's going to be wrong, But if the 206 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: whole picture looks the same, and then it shifts post snap, 207 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: it becomes much more difficult. So there's all of those 208 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: little things and nuances that you can hone in on 209 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: right now, because to your point, it is half speed. 210 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: It gets ramped up, but it's more about the teaching 211 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: and the education than anything else. Well, I think we've 212 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: talked about this just bringing back Zach Ertz and James 213 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: Connor with it. You know, obviously Connor had in a 214 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: full offseason, Butts was, you know, a midseason trade. But 215 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: you look at Steven Anderson, look at Jeff Gladney, Will Hernandez, Jalen, 216 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: Samuel So and Nick Virgil. They have a lot of 217 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: guys that have been in this system. So obviously some 218 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: new guys are gonna have to catch up, and you're 219 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: curious to see what they install and everything else. But 220 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: it's not like you're you're gonna have to reteach twenty 221 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: new guys what it's like the practice and everything else. 222 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: And again, they'll add more players, but at least it's 223 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: not complete turnover. Year four. There should be a lot 224 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: more familiarity. You can go in and maybe jump in 225 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: with both feet as far as backpedaling and figure out 226 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: what you need to work on. We talk about the 227 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: on field chemistry, how about the off field chemistry Guys 228 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: getting to know each other away from the game and 229 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: hanging out. Well, that hasn't happened just yet. But speaking 230 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: of hanging out in the community, JJ Watt on Saturday 231 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: put the message out on social media, Hey, come join 232 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: me at coach House in Scottsdale for a couple of hours. 233 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: Really hadn't been able to engage the fan base since 234 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: he arrived because the pandemic. And I thought some of 235 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: the pictures and video that we saw he had a 236 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: good time. He had to make sure he was back 237 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: home with his wife to make sure he watched UNC 238 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: and Duke in the Final four. But it's getting out 239 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: and about and I know you do a lot of 240 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: stuff and still continue to do stuff, Drew. But as 241 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: far as hanging out with Drew Stanton, whether it was 242 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: an East Lancing when you're at Michigan State or here 243 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: in Arizona or the number of places that you played, 244 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: it is parts of trying to figure out all, right, 245 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: if you're going to immerse yourself with the team, you 246 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,359 Speaker 1: should also immerse yourself with the community as well. Oh, 247 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: I think they go hand in hand. I mean I 248 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: was very conscious of the fact that this fan base, 249 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: especially how much they embraced us when we got here. 250 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: You know, I came in with a new regime and 251 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: there was some influx and all those things. But getting 252 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: involved with a community as part of who we are 253 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: as professional athletes because the reach that we have from 254 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: doing hospital visits, going to different charity events, and the 255 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: Cardinals charity has do such a good job. I've kind 256 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: of setting the table for you. I mean, they do 257 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: a fantastic job to be able to put different opportunities 258 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: in front of you so then you can go serve 259 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: this community. Because this community allows us to do what 260 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: we do. It allows us to feed our family, and 261 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: that was never lost on me. So getting involved and 262 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: having kids and a lot of stuff. Anything involved with kids, 263 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: I always said yes to. I mean anything golf. Outing's 264 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: thought nearly as much because you know, I don't like 265 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: to golf in Five hours on a golf course sometimes 266 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: can be a little long for me. But I still 267 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: do it because I know again how important it is 268 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: to this brand and the community that supports us. Yeah, 269 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: he does a great job in greeting himself. You know, 270 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: whether it was Wisconsin. Obviously in Houston, reason over four 271 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: or billion dollars, and now he's doing it here. And 272 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: because of the pandemic, you know, a lot of these 273 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: guys haven't been able to go out and about, but 274 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: it was nice to see him reach out to the fans. 275 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure we're going to see more 276 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: of this and we'll see a lot of Cardinals players 277 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: at the Sun's playoff games. So it's gonna be a 278 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: good time in the offseason where you can get back 279 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: to some normalcy. Subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcas casts on 280 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, Spotify, Google Podcasts, and Stitcher. 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Second down 288 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: and Goal for the Chargers on the Eagle two Herbert 289 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: under center, Kelly the tail back, Anderson the full back 290 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: of the eye rolling to the light as Herbert, He's 291 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: got Anderson of the goal line touchdown. He's done a 292 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: lot of the dirty work for this Charger team, a 293 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: lot of blocky. He's played some fullback. He's lined up 294 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: at fullback on this one. Great play baked by Justin 295 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: Herbert rolling to the right and it was a race 296 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: between Anderson and the linebacker J Edwards. And Anderson won 297 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: sixteen catches, one hundred and sixty five yards and one 298 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: touchdown for Steven Anderson last season with the Chargers. That 299 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: play call thanks to the Chargers Radio Network, and Steven 300 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Anderson now a member of the Arrows on a Cardinals 301 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: signing a one year contract. We continue here on the 302 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals Red Seat Report presented by seat Geek, get your 303 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: seats in a seat, Craig Riolu, Drew Stanton, and Mike 304 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: Drecky talking about this tight end and what it might 305 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: mean for this offense overall. Anderson sixty three, two thirty 306 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: twenty nine years old. Don't know a whole lot about 307 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: Steven Anderson, MJ. But again, you're adding a tight end 308 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: to what this offseason has already done. Bringing back a 309 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: zach Ertz, bringing back Max Williams. You've got three other 310 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: tight ends as well. Does seem seven tight ends versus 311 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: six wide receivers on this roster at the moment, maybe 312 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: more tight end emphasis within the offense. Yeah, you know, 313 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: you're bringing in some more experience. Obviously you had Demetrius 314 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: Harris and Terrell Daniels, and those guys are free agents. 315 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: We know how deep the draft is. I don't want 316 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: to anticipate they would take a tight end in the 317 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: first couple of rounds, considering you have zach Ertz on 318 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: the contract. But you know, I think we're all kind 319 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: of intrigued with this twelve personnel. And I was listening 320 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: to Wolf recently and he thinks, you know, possibly that 321 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: they were going to run more twelve personnel. Maybe we 322 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: could see Kyler Murray under center. He said, he's just 323 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: kind of connecting the dots, so to speak. I don't 324 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: want to put words in his mouth, and that would 325 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: be more of a deep dive why this team has 326 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: struggled down the stretch, don't I don't think it's just 327 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: one thing. Obviously, you got to be healthy at certain positions. 328 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: But I think they'll bring six tight ends to camp, 329 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: and obviously they'll they'll take the top three. It is 330 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: April Drew. We've got five plus months before the regular season. 331 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: But to MJ's point, as far as connecting the dots, 332 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: what have they done in the offseason to this point 333 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: to help Kyler Murray and this offense. It has been 334 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: an emphasis on the tight end less so on the 335 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Yeah. Well, I think there's a couple of 336 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: reasons for that. Right when you look at a tight 337 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: end and we just classified as one position, but they 338 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: can be broken up a lot of different ways. There 339 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: can be a Y tight end, there could be an 340 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: F tight end where and F is more of in 341 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: the backfield, more athletic type of a guy that's a 342 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: pass catcher, something along those lines, versus a true traditional 343 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: Y tight end, per se, like a Max Williams step 344 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: of a guy that can run and block and do 345 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: all this stuff. So you can move them around, but 346 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: they're just kind of encapsulated in one position of tight 347 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: end when you throw a blanket on all of it, 348 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: So you know, a little bit different of a body type. Again, 349 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: and when you're trying to structure stuff in the offseason, 350 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: you look back and you see what you did well 351 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: what you need to improve and everything in between that, 352 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: and so in saying that when you have to run 353 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: the football, can you run the football? They were doing 354 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: that earlier in the year. They were imposing their will 355 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: at the end of games to close games out. They 356 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: couldn't established the run when they wanted to in the 357 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: second half of the season, even when they made an 358 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: emphasis of saying, hey, we can't get Kyler head as much. 359 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: We can't do all these things, So how do you 360 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: do that? You give yourself flexibility within personnel group means 361 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: to say, hey, we gain an advantage here because we 362 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: really like the fact that we can get him on 363 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: the field versus him, or we want this type of 364 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: defensive personnel on the field because they're gonna match. They're 365 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna stay in nickel even if we're in twelve personnel, 366 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: so they gain an advantage there, or they stay in 367 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: base or whatever it is. So we gained him passive advantage. 368 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: So it becomes one of these things where you just 369 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: give yourself freedom to go down different paths when the 370 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: time comes. Now, we've always been talking about under center 371 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: and everything else, and we know that they were in 372 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: a lot of r po's pistol zone rates. How will 373 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: that affect his skill set if he has to go 374 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: under center where you're basically, when you're in the gun, 375 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: you can see the entire field, but when you're under center, 376 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: you got to turn your back a little bit. Talk 377 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: about that for us Layman's out there. Yeah, well, I 378 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: think part of it's just the requirement of the play right, 379 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: and I don't believe it's very hard to go under center, 380 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: especially if you're putting in a point of emphasis on 381 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: it right now and you know, we don't have access 382 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: to know what they're thinking. But at the same time, 383 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: the pistol is very much like being under center, right, 384 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: and it gets the back back in the home position 385 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: as we call it, so he's not offset. And there's 386 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: different keys, especially within this offense, that you can do, 387 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: or different game planning things of the blitz the back, 388 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: different ways on defense, or there'll slant the defensive linement 389 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: a certain way, so there's a lot of keys. When 390 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: he's balanced, you're not giving up that. So whether it 391 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: isn't the pistol or under center, it allows you the 392 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: freedom to be able to do that and then then 393 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: then becomes a number game in the run game, and 394 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: you're completely balanced, much like the Indianapolis Colts used to 395 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: be with Peyton Manning. It's you're finding the numbers. Okay, 396 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: so if the safety's dropping down here, do we want 397 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: to run to leverage or we run outside zone? All 398 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: of these little things. It gives you the opportunity to 399 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: have the pencil last because then it puts in the 400 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks lap and he can switch what side he's going to. 401 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: It allows inside zones that then hit cutbacks, and James 402 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: Connor has the ability to do all these things as 403 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: we've seen him do, so there's a lot of freedom 404 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: and being under center. From the standpoint, it creates more balance, 405 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: but it's not a necessity by any means. Anderson, again 406 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: six three two thirty, spent the past three seasons with 407 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: the Chargers. He's as far as waits is concern. He's 408 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: more likely to Demetrius Harris, but not as tall. Daniels 409 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: and Harris both unrestricted free agents mentioned Max Williams still 410 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: coming off that knee injury. Don't know how healthy he's 411 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 1: going to be, so some depth at the tight end 412 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: position with the addition of Steven Anderson. The other move 413 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: that was made recently that we haven't had a chance 414 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: to hear from you, Strew. Is the addition of penciled 415 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: in right guard Will Hernandez, who comes over from the 416 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: New York Giants, comes in great history with Sean Coogler, 417 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden a need at right guard 418 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: has been filled. If if nothing else, and pencil that 419 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: you've got someone that you can plug in and now 420 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: solidified from left to right, your tackle, your guard, and 421 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: your center. That's huge. I mean, I think that was 422 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: definitely a point of emphasis and when you go get 423 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: a guy you're familiar with, but also that started a 424 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: handful of I means, however many games he's had, he's 425 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: been not only in the league for a while, but 426 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: he's played in a ton of games. He's started again 427 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of games, and he's seen a ton of football. 428 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: On top of that, knowing him, just the perception of 429 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: him throughout the NFL, he's got a main streak to him. 430 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: He's got a demeanor to him, which I think is 431 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: so important for offense allowment to have because he shows 432 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: up and he plays football and he protects his quarterback. 433 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: And when you have guys like that that are in 434 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: front of you, everybody around kind of harries that torch 435 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more. They have that demeanor about him 436 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: where they play with this edge. Nothing against the guys 437 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: that were here in the past, nothing against what it is, 438 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: but he's known as a guy that's more feisty. He's 439 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: gonna mix it up. If you get near his quarterback, 440 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: he's not gonna like it. So those are guys that 441 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: I love to play with because you knew that they 442 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: had your back no matter what. He did admit that 443 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: he's going to have to figure out to learn to 444 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: deal with a mobile quarterback behind him, and he was 445 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 1: opening on It's like, look, it's a challenge. I'm up 446 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: for the challenge. And he's gonna have to hold his 447 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: block for a little bit longer. And that's something that 448 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: again going back to the offseason, that you kind of 449 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: figure out a little bit. All right, maybe it's one 450 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: and a half seconds. Now it's an additional split second 451 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: or full second, maybe even three seconds with Kyle Murray 452 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: in the backfield. Well, I think more than that is 453 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: you just never give up. Right, any offensive linem would 454 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: love to be able to block for four seconds. That's 455 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: just a matter of actually being able to do it 456 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: so and saying that, I think the mindset is is 457 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: you never give up on a play because sometimes okay, 458 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: balls out here or you know certain tags if it's 459 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: a quick game, you know that as an offensive linement, 460 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: so you can cut or you can do different things. 461 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: Anything is fair game. With Kyler back there, that's what 462 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: makes him so special and so dynamic. So it is 463 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: a mindset. It is a practice type of mentality that 464 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: you have of you stick with your block, you stick 465 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: with your guy until you know that the ball has gone. 466 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: So that is something that I think he can work on, 467 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: if that's what he's alluding to more than anything else. Recently, 468 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez on The Big Red Rage with Paul Calves 469 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: and mentioned the PF grades Pro Football Focus as far 470 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: as what they were last season versus what they were 471 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: and Hernandez's first season coming off that time at UTAP 472 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: with Sean Coogler, Your PF grades were the best as 473 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: a rookie of your NFL career. Could that be a 474 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: correlation to coming off all that time with Sean Coogler 475 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: and entering the league. Yeah, I definitely think there is 476 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: correlation there, and not only looking at the PF grades 477 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: but how I felt playing how I looked at my 478 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: cellf on film. You know, there was a lot of 479 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: Kugler on the tape, as you could say, and uh yeah, 480 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: and as you know, as the years went by and stuff, 481 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, uh Coogler thing was always there, but you 482 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: know it wasn't as repetitive and you didn't see it 483 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: every day as I did when I was back at 484 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: UTAP So, but yeah, Foe some correlation there, you know, 485 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: you look at it. And he mentioned also with the 486 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage that he went through four offensive line coaches. 487 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: They fired the coordinator and Jason Garrett, they fired the 488 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: head coach at the end of the year. I mean, 489 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: so obviously Daniel Jones been turned the ball over. They 490 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: can't run the football with Sacan Barkley. So there's a 491 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: lot that goes into it. But the fact that he 492 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: has started at right and left guard, that can go 493 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: a long way, and to me, the sweet spot when 494 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: you're signing free agencies twenty six right now, he'll be 495 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: twenty seven when the season starts, and that's what you 496 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: want to get. It's a one year deal. He knows 497 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: he has to prove himself, but I'm looking forward to 498 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: see him because he's gonna mall guys in the run game. Well, 499 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: we always talk about relationships, and you look at the 500 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: relationship between James Saxon and James Connor Connors before last season. 501 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: His best year, his Pro Bowl year was with Saxon 502 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: with the Steelers. You come here on a one year, 503 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: prove a deal, if you will. Will Hernandez same thing, 504 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: one year prove a deal, and you're back to familiar personnel, 505 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: if you will, Maybe that familiar surroundings, but you understand 506 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: what you're walking into with a position coach that you're 507 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: familiar with and got the best out of you. Yeah, 508 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: and we all know at the end of the day, 509 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: Cooler is going to play the best five guys and 510 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with Josh Jones Justin Murray. You know, 511 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: we'll see Josh Jones, obviously guy that they had a 512 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: lot of high hopes for it and he didn't pan out. 513 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're giving up on him. He's going 514 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: to provide depth. Max Garcias signed with the Giants, and 515 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: then we'll see what happens with Justin Murray. You know, 516 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: he's making two million. He could play four different positions, 517 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: so you gotta have some depth there. But the key 518 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: is and you can't predict it. They just gotta stay 519 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: healthy and Hump did not play very well last year 520 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: and hopefully has a bounce back. Here nine different offensive 521 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: line combinations last season the year prior just four. Stay 522 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: healthy and maybe you have a little bit better end 523 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: to your regular season going into that postseason. Catch up 524 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: on past episodes of The Day Patch podcast via your 525 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: preferred podcast provider. Get the latest updates via Twitter at 526 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: pash pod. We've had halftime here on the Cardinals Red 527 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: Seat Report presented by SeatGeek. Get your seats in a 528 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: seats as we continue. Yes, it is April. Yes, the 529 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: draft is just three weeks away. There are some positions 530 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: of need, especially with that first round pick. This is 531 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Hands it off, no running room, 532 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: off the right side and back of loss up two 533 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: on the play, Saban Collins the first guy there, and 534 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: that is a big man coming down from the weak side, 535 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: shooting the gap. Saban Collins again throws over the middle, 536 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: tipped into the air and in complained he was going 537 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: for his tight end path was off the mark. Xavan 538 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: Collins at coverage that time, and it's fourth down. Saban 539 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: Collins bats that fall into the air with all of 540 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: that great length, use check in motion. It is a 541 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: quarterback drop the middle Lance's head drives the legs forward close. 542 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers are short. Saban Collins with the tackle. 543 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: Saban Collins, the rookie at two sixty playing downhill, came 544 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: in and laid some lumber. Baby didn't see a lot 545 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: of that out of Zavan Collins in twenty twenty one. 546 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: The hope is we see more of that in twenty 547 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: twenty two. That jumped from year one to year two. 548 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: As we walking back here to the Cardinals Red Sea 549 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: Report presented by seat Geek get your seats in a seat, 550 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: Craig Reel and Drew Stanton and Mike Jarecki. Zavan Collins 551 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: last year's number one overall pick the year prior, Isaiah 552 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Simmons the number one overall pick as far as the 553 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals first round selections back to back years. Now, MG, 554 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: you're going inside linebacker Isaiah Simmons. We did see that 555 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: jump last season, but I think now with a full 556 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: offseason that even Isaiah Simmons hasn't had you get these 557 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: guys in this building and they are able to figure 558 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: out right what we did right, what we did wrong, 559 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: and really be that two beautiful trees, as Steve COmON 560 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury describe them together on the field, because we 561 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: didn't see a lot last year. Yeah, and you know, 562 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: I wonder I think it was you had the stat 563 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: a pro football Focus had in blinding up at five 564 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: different positions. I get the impression maybe that should maybe 565 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: go down in the three and I think they I 566 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: don't know if he'll ever rush the pastor but they 567 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: want him on the edge or he can cover in 568 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: the flat and make tackles in the open field. And 569 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: then Zaven Collins is gonna have to be here thumper 570 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: when it comes to the run game. So it'd be 571 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: curious to see how And then what do they do 572 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: with Nigel Earl Nick Figiel excuse me? Yeah, what do 573 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: they do with him and see more of a rotation 574 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: guy or is he gonna be on the field because 575 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: I think if you look at Isaiah Simmons slot corner 576 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: inside and then he can possibly cover tight ends, So 577 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: I would think they would maybe tail back a little bit. 578 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: Maybe that's so much on his plate. Isaiah sim Is, 579 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Focus, five different positions inside outside linebacker, 580 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: slot corner, outside corner, free safety. Zaven Collins last season 581 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: did see a lot of time late in the year 582 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: at outside linebacker. Drew is it at that point now 583 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: with two young kids that you all right narrowed down 584 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: the focus so they just figure out, all right, this 585 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: is what I This is not my full soul job, 586 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: but at least not try to throw so much at them. 587 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: That's interesting, the five different positions of inside corner and 588 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: outside corner of like this man to man, so he's 589 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: just found as guy. But Pro Football Focus has something 590 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: figured out because they're doing a good job of getting 591 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: everybody to buy into that. So, yeah, I think you 592 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: let those two guys. They're so freakishly athletic, right is. 593 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: I think it's hard and we'll talk about a little 594 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: bit later, but those that's a hard position to step 595 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: into as a young guy because there's so much think 596 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: and processing that you have to do and then also communicating. 597 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: So not only are you diagnosing with the offense is doing, 598 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: you're communicating and you're adjusting, you're adapting on the fly 599 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: and when anytime you're not up to speed. It allows 600 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: you to have to slow down to process it and 601 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: then you can't play to your athletic ability. So hopefully 602 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: they can simplify things. Yes, I mean you look at 603 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: somebody like Savan Collins and being in a later first 604 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: round pick, the thumper type of the mentality that you 605 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: want a middle linebacker. He's got to be able to 606 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: make those calls for you because he's the one that's 607 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: on the field. If he is not as stout in 608 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: the pass game as you want him to be because 609 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: he can't guard tight ends are doing this, then it changes. 610 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: But you have the luxury and the versatility of somebody 611 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: like Isaiah Simmons, and he can do all those things. 612 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: He can line up and he can do all these 613 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: things in a base type of defense. Nick Vigil's been 614 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: in this offense or defense before. He's been with Vance Joseph, 615 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: so he knows how to do it, and maybe he's 616 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: the one calling it and they try and play and 617 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: do this stuff around. You can get creative with those 618 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: three guys on the field. If you don't have a 619 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: pass rusher, if you don't go out get somebody to 620 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: rush the passion on the edge because both those guys, 621 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: those two young guys can then be athletic and they 622 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: don't have to think. They don't have to do anything 623 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: except for go, okay, beat that one the guy across 624 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: from you and inside outside. As long as you find 625 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: your gap, it's going to give you more freedom to 626 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: do that. So the versatility that potentially exists there is 627 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: what you want, because those guys have to be on 628 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: the field. They weren't on the field and the latter 629 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: part of the year together, which is when you're talking 630 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: about back to back first round picks, investing that much 631 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: draft capital, it's a must moving forward. Yeah, you don't 632 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: want that investment on the sideline. So they need to 633 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: be on the football field. So the question is, all right, 634 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: how do they get on the field more often? Rob Frederickson, 635 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: a guest of The Big Red Rage, recently on what 636 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: he thinks could help Collins and Simmons the interior defensive 637 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: line because the Cardinals were getting gashed last year. Let's 638 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: let's be honest in the run game, that would benefit 639 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: these two guys immensely. To get just a run plug 640 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: and stuff and into your defensive linemen in there. That 641 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: is consistent that can stay healthy. That would free up 642 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: the athletic ability of a Zavan Collins Isaiah Simmons and 643 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: allow them to run and to fill those gaps and 644 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: to not have these big offensive linemen in their face 645 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: the whole time. Defensive line is at an option for 646 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals at pick number twenty three, or if not 647 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: in the first round and the second or a third round. 648 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: It's certainly a position of need. You brought up edge 649 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: rusher in the fact that right now this team doesn't 650 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: have that prototypical edge rusher outside of Marcus Golden. But 651 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: when you look at first round needs and someone who 652 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: can come in right away, start Week one and be consistent, 653 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: we didn't see that the past two years with a 654 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: first round draft pick. Is there a position that makes 655 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: more sense for the Cardinals that the Cardinals can count 656 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: on to be that guy for seventeen straight games? Yeah? Well, 657 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: I think you know. It's very well documented how Steve 658 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: Kim approaches the draft with all of his guys on board, 659 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: right if they do all of his different simulations, is 660 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: going to come out in different every single time because 661 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: it's always best available, which he truly buys into and 662 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: believes in, saying that if that aligns with where you 663 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: see in need. And Rob did a great job of 664 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: kind of outlining that defensive line is something that it's 665 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: not sexy. So you draft this guy in the first round, 666 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna sit there and say, oh, I know 667 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: that guy from Mississippi State. But if he does his job, 668 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: it allows everybody else around you to be better at 669 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: third job. And when you've invested that much and the 670 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: second line of defense, if you will at linebacker, you 671 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: want to make sure that first line of defense is 672 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: as stout as possible and those guys are grab and 673 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: you guys that are there and taking the ability for 674 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: guys to come downhill and run downhill at the linebacker 675 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: position in the run game, being able to diagnose things 676 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: because they don't have to worry about it. Those defensive 677 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: linemen are crafty, they know how to do it. And again, 678 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: the edge rushers, all of those guys, you've got to 679 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: be smart, especially in this how much guys are dropping 680 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: out and doing different stuff. You can't just plug and 681 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: play a guy. So the middle to late round picks 682 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: of the first round get kind of tricky because where 683 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: do they fit into what you want to do? Because 684 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: the first round pick is the first round pick. You 685 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: don't want to miss on those. You want to be 686 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: able to put those guys in and be able to 687 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: benefit from having them right away. And that's not always 688 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: the case, but a defensive lineman can do that, and 689 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: hopefully that's the case come this April. You know, I 690 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: think when you start looking at how you build a roster, 691 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: obviously they start with quarterback, left tackle, pass rusher, and 692 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: then corner. But the impression I get from Steve is 693 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: they want to be better up the middle. Okay, and 694 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: so you look at you know, DeVante Wyatt from Georgia. 695 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's he's a really good player, Jordan 696 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: Davis from Georgia. So I mean, depending on if they 697 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: don't get if they don't resign a G Green or 698 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: another wide receiver, then I would think wide receiver would 699 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: be in play. And then do they go for a 700 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: pass rusher, corner Daniel Jeremiah. There are twenty deep, so 701 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: do you find one in the second round. So it's 702 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: going to be interesting who's on the board in what 703 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: direction they go at twenty three. But they gotta get 704 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: they gotta get a big run stopper. In the middle. 705 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: And I think we all focus on the pass ruship, 706 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: but teams were running right up the middle on this team, 707 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: and you know, Zavin Collins is going to have to 708 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: go through a lot of trials and errors because Jordan 709 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: Hicks was making those tackles five or six years down 710 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Yeah, that's a great point because 711 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: they made a point of emphasis last year to solidify 712 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: the middle for Kyler right on offense. And they also 713 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: made a point of emphasis to get the middle right 714 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: between the safeties and the linebackers. So the next piece 715 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: of that would be the interior defensive lineman. And look, 716 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: you're in a league where there's three teams. They are 717 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: run first, they are trying to run the football. They 718 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: stick with the run game. You've got to be able 719 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: to do that because even in that Rams game, you 720 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: know they started kind of breaking off these chunk type 721 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: of runs. If you have a guy that allows you 722 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: to get downhill and puts them behind the chains, you're 723 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: gonna put yourself in a better position. So whether or 724 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: not that guy's out there, I'm not that well studied 725 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: to be able to tell you the defensive lineman that 726 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: exists out there because maybe you can get them in 727 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: the second round, maybe you can get them in the 728 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: third round. These space eaters that have the ability to 729 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: do that, because if you feel good about maybe a 730 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: corner or maybe somebody like that, where guys aren't going 731 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: to have to think as much and be able to 732 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: play and rely on that athletic ability, it's better. But 733 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: as far as wide receiver, that's another tough position to 734 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: come into because you have to be able to identify 735 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: coverage and cliff system, you have to be able to 736 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: identify hots and sights and all these different aspects that 737 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: we've seen some of these guys that we've drafted high 738 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: in the past not be able to make that jump 739 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: right away, and some of them are still on the roster. 740 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: So rondel Moore, you're looking for more from him. Andy 741 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: Isabella is still on the roster right now. Guys that 742 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: you would love to see kind of step up to 743 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: the plate because it is hard. It's something that's asked 744 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: of you, and it's a thinking portion of it, but 745 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: then there's the physical portion of it. And then when 746 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: those don't allow a line correctly, you're going to struggle. 747 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: And then your conference starts the waiver. No, I think 748 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: you bring up a valid point because in a receiver 749 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: in this offense, you've got to be in a recognized 750 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: coverage because you've got to change your route in the 751 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: quarterback is going to trust you when you look at 752 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: a plug and play guy, edge rusher or defense line 753 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 1: a little bit easier to exactly. Yeah, that's I mean, 754 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: that's how I see it in my eyes, and the 755 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: proofs in the pudding from what we've seen the last 756 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: couple of years here. So hopefully that can change and 757 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: those guys that are on the roster can step up 758 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: because there's open There are a number of needs, just 759 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: a matter of how you address that. With respect to 760 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: the draft, first round, second round, or third round, Cardinals 761 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: don't pick again after round number three until the sixth 762 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: round and the two hundred and fifteenth overall selection, at 763 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: least as we speak right now. Check out season one 764 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Folk Tales on our official YouTube channel YouTube 765 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: dot com. Slash Azy Cardinals get the story behind the 766 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: stories from several remarkable moments in Cardinals history. This is 767 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network snapped to Rogers drops back, 768 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: He's in trouble, rolling left, big Chase gets hit, launches 769 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: at the middle of the field in the end zone. 770 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: It is, oh my goodness, it's called he's caught her 771 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: in touchdown. You can't be serious. Time downe for green bang. 772 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, there are no words. It was like 773 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: a roller coaster. So at the end of the end 774 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: of the regulation, you're like, two hill, Mary's right too, 775 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: Hell marry about the what are you doing on the 776 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: first round? I knocked that ball down on the second one, 777 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: so like you're just so dejected. And Aaron just did this. 778 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: So I'm going out to the coin toss. I'm like, please, Lord, 779 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 1: just let us win this coin toss because we can't 780 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: go into overtime one defense after he just did that, 781 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: and so we got fortunate we able to win the 782 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: coin toss and b a Cam right over to me 783 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: was I look there, it is what we want to run. 784 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: I was like, cool coats, bless, run for it. And 785 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: I started running and like nobody whip me. I was 786 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,959 Speaker 1: like you, that's cool. I liked it fits us. White 787 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: open one of the thirty five mos. There he's in 788 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: the morning of the fifty turns the field of the 789 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: forty five from the morning thirty five The runs thirty 790 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: twenty five twenty fits in the near side down to 791 00:37:54,600 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: the farm tackle. There a course of ball, so Larry 792 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald on the other side of the field and threw 793 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: it while moving on the run. And Larry Fitzgerald the 794 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: legend to a gober and did the rest. I told 795 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: Wolf I actually phoned up to the to the bond 796 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: right when overtime I was starting. I told him listening, 797 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the left, I'm gonna break a 798 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: few times. I'm in contempler to five. So get what 799 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: you're gonna say, prepared and so you so you look 800 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: good and the sound bite can live on forever. And 801 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: he took the advice and ran with it. Snapped the 802 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: Palmer rolls off head. It's a pitch defits running training. 803 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: He hit the ends down the shovel past in a 804 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: touchdown of the wind. But Cardinals and Dance to the 805 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game on a shovel pass, of all things, 806 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: and one of the craziest games ever fits on the 807 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: shovel pass Stars and the Cardinals winning it overtime twenty 808 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: six to twenty eight. Larry Fitzgerald is only Larry Fitzgerald 809 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: ken walking us through the ending of the twenty fifteen 810 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: Divisional playoff game against the Green Bay Packers, from his 811 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: subtle jab of Justin Bethel to another suttle jab of 812 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley. But a moments well, you had the best 813 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: of you, drew of anyone sidelines for that one watching 814 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer perhaps make the most athletic move of his career, 815 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: knocking into his own offensive lineman, spinning away and then 816 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: finding a wide open Larry Fitzgerald. We bring this all 817 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: up because that can no longer happen in the National 818 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: Football League, at least in the postseason. Based off new 819 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: overtime rules, each team now gets a possession like it. 820 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: Don't like it? How do you feel about now? All 821 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 1: of a sudden we got to play fair? Josh Allen 822 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: camp Be on the sidelines. Each team must get the ball. Well, 823 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: first of all, we told Larry just score and then 824 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: went after the shovel pass. I mean, the younger Larry 825 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald scores there, right, But he the showman that he is, 826 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: he just wanted to hear the Larry Larry. But that's 827 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: the loudest I've ever heard of stadium in my life. 828 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I still got chills listening into that lead 829 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: in now because I put myself back in there, and yes, 830 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 1: I had a great seat. Thank you for that reminder, 831 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: And that's all I was thinking in my mind, as 832 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: like Carson's the one that made the play. Larry was 833 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: just wide open, you know. So it yeah, oh for sure, 834 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: completely biased. But I personally don't like this rule. I 835 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: don't like the change. I think that looking at the 836 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: Competition committee, and I get why they did it, right, 837 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: I understand that, But at the same time, there is 838 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: a certain way to play this game, and that's just 839 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: how it goes. Right. You look at Cincinnati Bengals. They 840 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: stopped Kansas City the very next week and they went 841 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: on to win a football game. But ratings in the 842 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: NFL matter, people being in the viewership the intention of 843 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: doing that. So I get all of those components and 844 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 1: that goes into the decision making process of it. Because 845 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen never got a chance. At the same time, 846 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: the defense stops him to get a chance. So I 847 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: think that it's tough. It really is, because you played 848 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: an entire regular season and it comes down to that 849 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: and that football game in general. That is why we're changing. 850 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: This rule was so tremendous and I loved every second 851 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: of it. Unfortunately it came down the way that it 852 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: came down because Kansas City was playing so well that 853 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: that didn't allow them a chance to do it. Craig, 854 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: somebody probably won't have one overtime game in the playoffs 855 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: next year. All this talk about trying to make it fair, 856 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: there will not be a single game that goes into 857 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 1: overtime next year in the oppostseason. Regular season rules stayed 858 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: the same as far as overtime, right. Let me ask 859 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: you this, So if you win the coin toss, you 860 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: take the ball or for in the other team scores 861 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: are touched on. Do you go for two on the 862 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: other end? How do you think the analytics you're a 863 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: big fan of that. Yeah, well no, I mean that's 864 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: all going to go into play of it, right. You 865 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: might have the percentages already, but no, I do think 866 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: that's it. My mindset being an offensive players, I want 867 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: the ball to regardless. It does not matter to me 868 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden you put them on their 869 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: heels and comes a different mindset. There's the flow of 870 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: the game you take into consideration. At the same time, 871 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: and depending on the structure of the team, if you 872 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: have a great defense that you want to roll back 873 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: out there, like Larry said, like we didn't want to 874 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: throw that defense back out there. You know, Justin did 875 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 1: everything he possibly could, but just didn't make those plays 876 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: and some of those guys are gassed. All of that 877 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: is taking a consideration. So you can't just sit there 878 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: and say it's cut and dry. But I would want 879 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: the ball in my quarterbacks hands, leading down the field, 880 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: doing all of these things on the onset because I 881 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: want to be the aggressor. I mean, even in the 882 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: regular season football game, if I won the coin toss, 883 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: that would never defer. That was the big news coming 884 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: out of the annual league meeting. Now a couple of 885 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: days after that, there was perhaps even bigger news. Again, 886 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: it's great that we can have Drew Stanton here on 887 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals Red Seat Report presented by sik get your 888 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: seats in a seats, But it's your former head coach 889 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 1: Bruce arians announcing that he was going to step down 890 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: step into the front office with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 891 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: and Todd Bowles is out the head coach. The Buccaneers 892 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: surprised or do you know things that maybe the rest 893 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: of us don't know. No. I was completely surprised. How 894 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: much time do we have here to make sure I 895 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: don't go over it? Because I had a complete blunder 896 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: of like why you don't text in a hurry? And 897 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm okay sharing this because obviously BA and are close, 898 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: but I had no idea and I'm walking out the 899 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: door and I missed a call from Aq Shipley and 900 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: I texted back. I was like, Hey, what's going on 901 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: in Tampa? I was like, I'm headed to my son's 902 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,479 Speaker 1: baseball game. I saw BA retired. I was like, Tom 903 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: didn't force this, did he? And I go to the 904 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: baseball game. After the game, I get a text from 905 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: BA and he said, hey kid, it's me Now. He 906 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: didn't force it. He's like I just wanted to do 907 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: in my own terms. And I was like, oh, man, 908 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: you talk about day blunder. I said, b A and 909 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 1: text on retirement, saying did Tom force you to retire? 910 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: And he was like no, I didn't. But having that 911 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: relationship with BA, I think a lot of people were 912 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: really surprised, but that was kind of his whole objective anyways, right, 913 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: He is all about creating a culture, creating a nucleus, 914 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: and he's so good of taking care of everybody, all 915 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: of the assistant coaches, making sure that everything was in place. 916 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: And Todd Bowles is going to do a tremendous job, 917 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: right you look at what he is and having been 918 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: in that locker room, been around Todd, how people gravitate 919 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: towards him, what the players are saying about him. BA 920 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: just felt like now was the time to step away, 921 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: and now was the right time, and there's so many 922 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: things for them to be able to do and have success. 923 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: So I just said after that, hey, I apologize. I'm 924 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: so thankful because the impact he had on me and 925 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: so many other people in this league. And BA is 926 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: still gonna be around that team. There's no way that 927 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: he is not going to be around. He's just different 928 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: trying to figure out where he's gonna where he's gonna 929 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: stand in during the games because he cannot be on 930 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: the sidelines, so he's gonna be walking around, he's gonna 931 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: be in his suite. It's a different role, so that 932 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: he's trying to figure that part out. Congratulations, by the 933 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: way to Todd Bowles. I think he'll do a fantastic job. 934 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: Plus he's got a better talented team than maybe he 935 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: had with his first go around with the New York Jets, 936 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: so again something he paying attention to. And of course 937 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: there's always something to follow when you're talking about Bruce Arians, 938 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: the former Cardinals head coach. Hey special thanks behind the 939 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: scenes our senior broadcast manager and producer, Jim mobile Hund, 940 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: technical director Cody Fincher for Drew Stanton, Mike Drecky, I'm 941 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: Greg Rio Loup will talk to you in one week's time. 942 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: You're on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. You've been listening 943 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: to the Cardinals Red Sea Report fifteen ten five Tockdown, 944 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: zach Ertz, Buda Baker with the sack, strip the ball, 945 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: Mary's gonna score touchdown, Oh Baby. 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