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Speaker 1: Is the John Anick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick

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Speaker 1: and Kenny Florian, I love him.

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Speaker 2: I can't get enough of them.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that boss front.

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Speaker 4: Breaks out.

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Speaker 3: There are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian's.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's gonna be back with your pap per view

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Speaker 5: week Newark, New Jersey. Memorial Day is upon us Monday,

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Speaker 5: May twenty seven, twenty twenty four. It's episode four eighty

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Speaker 5: eight of the anakan Florian podcast. We are Live today,

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Speaker 5: always trying to do these fucking things live. I had

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Speaker 5: my Frankie Edgar turquoise shirt on for the show today

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Speaker 5: because of course it's a New Jersey pay per view.

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Speaker 5: He's going into the Hall of Fame actually one month

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Speaker 5: from today, but I sweated through it before the program. Kenny,

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Speaker 5: so we had to go with the IHP black. But

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Speaker 5: it's nice to see a happy belated birthday. Ken Flow

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Speaker 5: turning forty eight yesterday. If my math is accurate.

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Speaker 4: My man, my.

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Speaker 6: Man, I feel sixty eight. I feel like I should

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Speaker 6: be collecting so security in a couple of years. Dude,

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Speaker 6: going to the Early Bird special, but uh, feeling good man,

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Speaker 6: I listen, this is what happens when you live in

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Speaker 6: the South. Now now that I'm in the Carolina's like,

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Speaker 6: I totally get it. I'll go outside and I'll soak

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Speaker 6: through a shirt completely because of the humidity. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 6: that shirt's in the hamper, and yeah it's done. So

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Speaker 6: I get it, dude, But I'm excited for this pay

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Speaker 6: per view man, big big Card.

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Speaker 5: A couple of years into my UFC career, I want

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Speaker 5: to say twenty fourteen or fifteen, our UFC director Anthony Giordano,

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Speaker 5: future Hall of Fame, would talk to me about his

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Speaker 5: closet and the fact that everything in that closet was black,

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Speaker 5: and I thought he was crazy. And as I get older,

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Speaker 5: I buy almost exclusively black T shirts. So here we are,

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Speaker 5: all right, a lot to get into today. We were

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Speaker 5: not with you, folks. Last week. We spent several hours

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Speaker 5: filming some content exclusively for UFC Fight Pass. It is

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Speaker 5: called the Anak and Florian Rewind. So I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: if it's available right now, but basically what we do

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Speaker 5: is we go back and look at a fight involving

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Speaker 5: a pay per view headlining athlete, and we provide a

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Speaker 5: running commentary. I treat ken Fall like a little bit

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Speaker 5: of a dick, as I've been known to do, but

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Speaker 5: those are exclusive to Fight Pass. Right now, we look

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Speaker 5: back at Islami Costa versus Alexander Volkanowski, and we also

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Speaker 5: looked back at Dustin Poorier in twenty nineteen at UFC

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Speaker 5: two forty two against Cobiebner Mago Metov. So those will

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Speaker 5: be available during this year pay per view week exclusively

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Speaker 5: on UFC Fight Pass. But a lot of things have

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Speaker 5: happened in the MMA world, so to that end. Oh

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Speaker 5: and by the way, Dan Hardy coming up here in

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Speaker 5: twelve minutes. We will also talk to new Mansljokin Buckley

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Speaker 5: in about an hour and the star of the program,

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Speaker 5: Ray Longo as well. Also coming up on Wednesday, full

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Speaker 5: preview and predictions for UFC three oh two and anything

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Speaker 5: we don't get to today that includes Kenny's wagers for

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Speaker 5: UFC three oh two headlines though, brought to you by Quervo.

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Speaker 5: Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.

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Speaker 5: So John Jones is in the news all the time,

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Speaker 5: whole Tom aspinall situation, the step A Miachich fight potentially

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Speaker 5: in November. But John Jones posted something on x comparing

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Speaker 5: himself to Tom Brady, and some people have been critical

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Speaker 5: me say, Kenny on these airwaves that if they hung

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Speaker 5: championship banners in Albuquerque, New Mexico, for every title fight

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Speaker 5: And I think some of the MMA fan base doesn't

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Speaker 5: far as I'm concerned, Keddy, I mean, maybe it's just

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Speaker 5: calling John Jones like a fifteen time UFC light heavyweight champion, right,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Listen, when you look at what John Jones has accomplished,

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Speaker 6: to see John Jones in his prime. Now, don't judge

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Speaker 6: really quick. Not a whole lot to criticize there. You

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Speaker 4: They're like, this isn't the Tom Brady of MMA.

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Speaker 6: Well, you didn't have the opportunity to see John Jones

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Speaker 4: Years, right, it's different.

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Speaker 6: It's you need to look at athletes and where they

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Speaker 6: And I think it's unfair to judge people on that. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So the tweet, Hey, Tom Brady, you still look healthy.

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Speaker 5: Give us two more super Bowls and I'll personally be

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Speaker 5: Part of that has been a choice. Part of that

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And if you're gonna let a champion hold onto

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Speaker 6: He's put in the work, he's been in this sport

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Speaker 6: And again, everybody meets their decline. And I don't think

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Speaker 6: It's just not fair because everyone will eventually meet their decline.

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts, Oh, that's an absolute banger. Yeah, and again,

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Speaker 6: but MVP versus Ian Gary, gimme it, give me all

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Speaker 6: least we should because MVP is that dangerous. But for

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Speaker 5: great to see your brother. How are you, sir, I'm

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Speaker 5: Thank you man. Well, we cherish having a quarter of

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Speaker 7: Man, Well, first of all, thank you for the kind words,

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Speaker 5: You know, I questioned my order of what I wanted

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Speaker 7: blow your mind. Like, imagine how it would change the

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Speaker 7: way that he saw things in the city in the

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Speaker 7: space of twenty four hours. Like even if you showed

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Speaker 7: showed us a calf kick back in the you know,

436
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Speaker 7: at the turn of the millennium, it was almost it

437
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Speaker 7: would have been Witchcraft Tours at the time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan Hardy with us here on the Anakin Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: So I wanted to ask you briefly about UFC three

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Speaker 5: oh four. I'd imagine with UFC three to oh two

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Speaker 5: this week, you're getting close to your war room breakdown

442
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Speaker 5: for islamakash Evan Dustin Pourrier. Is that out yet or no?

443
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Speaker 7: I recorded? We record them all yesterday. I did two

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Speaker 7: war rooms main and co main event, and then we

445
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Speaker 7: did the Picks podcast as well. So they'll be up today,

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Speaker 7: tomorrow and Wednesday on on the full Red Tile channel.

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Speaker 5: All right, you can check that stuff out, time permitting.

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Speaker 5: I will ask Dano here about UFC three to zero two.

449
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Speaker 5: But three oh four Tom aspinall and Leon Edwards in

450
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Speaker 5: Manchester and Aspinall in defensive is Interim Championship against Curtis Blades.

451
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Speaker 5: There are a lot of challenging situations when it comes

452
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Speaker 5: to this heavyweight situation. John Jones is the greatest of

453
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Speaker 5: all time Stepe's status in all of this as well.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of the fan base really feels

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Speaker 5: for Tom. But I'm not sure the UFC was in

456
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Speaker 5: a position where they could strip John. So I'm curious

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Speaker 5: from your standpoint how you feel like they have handled

458
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Speaker 5: what I think is just a really messy situation.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's kind of it's awkward. I think anytime

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Speaker 7: that an interim titles it introduced, it needs to be

461
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Speaker 7: it needs to be in the picture for a finite

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Speaker 7: amount of time, you know, and as as soon as

463
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Speaker 7: an interim belt is around someone's waist, the time's got

464
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Speaker 7: to be ticking until that becomes an actual title, you know,

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Speaker 7: whether it's monsoor whether it's I don't know, any longer

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Speaker 7: than twelve months. Seems wild to me that, you know,

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Speaker 7: an interim belt would be applied for me, Tom Aspinall's

468
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Speaker 7: that the heavyweight champion. That is in no way a

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Speaker 7: disrespect to John Jones. He is, you know, one of

470
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Speaker 7: the kings of mixed martial arts, as is Steepe Mierchich.

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Speaker 7: I think the reason why we're in this situation is

472
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Speaker 7: because we kind of feel bound to a fight with

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Speaker 7: John Jones versus step A Merechich. It has to be

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Speaker 7: before a belt, you know what I mean. It was

475
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Speaker 7: almost like when they did the BMF thing. It's like, well,

476
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Speaker 7: we can't just do Masvidal versus Nate Dias. It's it's

477
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Speaker 7: more special than that, right, But that doesn't mean we

478
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Speaker 7: have to kind of hold up like the genuine ranking

479
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Speaker 7: process in order to you know, express our gratitude for

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Speaker 7: those two guys, like you know, King of m M

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Speaker 7: A make up a new belt, I don't care at

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Speaker 7: this point, right, I've turned the corner on it. I

483
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Speaker 7: like the I like people have four or five belts

484
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Speaker 7: and you know, making a big show of it. I

485
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Speaker 7: won't mind an additional belt for a John Jones steepay fight,

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Speaker 7: especially if then aspinall versus blades is for the actual heavyweights.

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Speaker 5: Right, That's a good way to look at it. And

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Speaker 5: I too have come around on extra belts. At first,

489
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Speaker 5: when the BMF was introduced, I was sort of put

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Speaker 5: off by it, and now I feel like we actually

491
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Speaker 5: need it as a sport right to be able to

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Speaker 5: crown that type of individual. So as far as Leon

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Speaker 5: Edwards and Blow Muhammad are concerned, I mean, clearly we

494
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Speaker 5: can all see the extent to which Leon has leveled up.

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Speaker 5: Maybe Blow doesn't get as much credit for his level.

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Speaker 5: Clearly the odds makers are paying attention. How do you

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Speaker 5: handicap that fight? Now that it has been announced? Leon

498
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Speaker 5: Edwards and Blow Muhammad July twenty seven.

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Speaker 7: You know it's always going to be a tough fight

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Speaker 7: for Balala. I think anybody fights in Leon, especially now

501
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Speaker 7: that he's got the belt. It's different when you're chasing

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Speaker 7: the belt, but now he's got the belt, he can

503
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Speaker 7: kind of allow people to come to him and try

504
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Speaker 7: and get it. And you know, you watch what he

505
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Speaker 7: did to Colby Coventony. He dismantled him on the way in.

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Speaker 7: And the danger for Balal is getting picked off and

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Speaker 7: worked over as he's trying to get close to Leon.

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Speaker 7: He's going to have to go through the fire, and

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Speaker 7: he's going to have to force Leon to fight at

510
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Speaker 7: a pace that he doesn't want to fight at. Like

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Speaker 7: Leon's very very good at kind of setting a steady

512
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Speaker 7: pace and then controlling that pace throughout the fight. There

513
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Speaker 7: have been times when I've been sat up againside and

514
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Speaker 7: I'm thinking to myself, you know, it's late second, early

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Speaker 7: third round. I kind of feel like he could put

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Speaker 7: Cowboy away if he wanted here, you know. And they're

517
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Speaker 7: the times where Balow needs to put his foot on

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Speaker 7: the gas and sometimes take a shot to land two

519
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Speaker 7: or three, making it a little bit scrappy at times

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Speaker 7: and forced Leon out of his comfort zone. The one

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Speaker 7: thing that you can't be assured of is that you

522
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Speaker 7: can use wrestling offensive to keep Leon on the back foot.

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Speaker 7: I was even I was caged side a few weeks

524
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Speaker 7: ago and at Clay Collard's corner team. We're calling for

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Speaker 7: the Leon Edwards and it's very rare that you get,

526
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Speaker 7: you know, a UK based fighter being credited for their

527
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Speaker 7: takedown defence. Partly down to my fault probably to be honest,

528
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Speaker 7: but like his takedown defence against the wall is really fantastic,

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Speaker 7: So a lot of energy could be wasted there. And now,

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Speaker 7: obviously with the striking criteria being emphasized in you know,

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Speaker 7: close guard bottom or up against the wall, if the

532
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Speaker 7: if the person being offensive is not active enough like

533
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Speaker 7: Lion can chip away at him, the onus is going

534
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Speaker 7: to be on Balow to really keep this fight moving.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, you know that I'm going to ask

536
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Speaker 5: you about your fighting future every time we talk to you.

537
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Speaker 5: When you're fifty, I won't, but you're only forty two.

538
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Speaker 5: So I'm going to ask you about this because a

539
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Speaker 5: lot of people don't realize just how much how many

540
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Speaker 5: MMA fights you had, right, thirty six pro MMA fights,

541
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Speaker 5: even though a lot of us remember your career as

542
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Speaker 5: being cut short, right, I mean, it's crazy to think that.

543
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Speaker 5: In your native Nottingham September twenty ninth, twenty twelve, Kenny

544
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Speaker 5: and I were there right your win over am youre

545
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Speaker 5: Sedala was your last fight, and whether it was Diego

546
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Speaker 5: Sanchez or in another combat sports setting, a lot of

547
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Speaker 5: us have been hopeful to see you compete again. So

548
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Speaker 5: why hasn't this competition happened yet? And is it okay

549
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Speaker 5: for journalists like me to still probe you about it?

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Speaker 7: You can ask me about it, you know, until I'm

551
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Speaker 7: well into my sixties, I don't mind it. I'm probably

552
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Speaker 7: still going to say the same thing. If the opportunity

553
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Speaker 7: is right and the opponent makes me excited, then I'll

554
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Speaker 7: fight like I love fighting. Yeah, you know, it's not

555
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 7: until recently that I felt like things were actually cut

556
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Speaker 7: short for me, Like things just moved at such a pace.

557
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Speaker 7: You know, I was, I was out of competition. I

558
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Speaker 7: didn't really know what to do with myself. For a

559
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Speaker 7: few months, I was given the opportunity to commentate. I

560
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Speaker 7: loved that. I love doing the breakdown shows and stuff

561
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Speaker 7: like that, so I was just in the flow. And

562
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Speaker 7: you know what it's like when you're when you're on

563
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Speaker 7: the UFC train, it never stops, so there's always another

564
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Speaker 7: show coming, another trip to London to do a breakdown

565
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Speaker 7: show or whatever, and I just kind of stayed in

566
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Speaker 7: the swim and before I knew it, you know, a

567
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 7: couple of years had passed. I went and got clearance

568
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Speaker 7: to fight. I spoke to the UFC and they were

569
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Speaker 7: talking about different opponents, and you know, it was it

570
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 7: was names that, honestly, like, I love them as fighters,

571
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Speaker 7: but I didn't really want to fight them, Like Joe

572
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Speaker 7: Lo's On was the first name that was put to me,

573
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Speaker 7: and I'm like, I don't. I don't want to punch

574
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Speaker 7: show in the face, you know, I want to. I

575
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 7: want to give them a hug and play video games

576
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Speaker 7: with you know. It's it's like there are certain fighters

577
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Speaker 7: out there. I always expected at some point that myself

578
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Speaker 7: and Tyme Woodley would fight one another, and every time

579
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Speaker 7: I shake hands with him, it's always a little bit

580
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 7: for Rosty. But you know, I would never turn a

581
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Speaker 7: fight down if the opportunity is right. I love it.

582
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Speaker 7: It's in my blood. It's who I am. Yeah, everything

583
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Speaker 7: else is just a performance to kind of you know,

584
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Speaker 7: keep that guy in the cupboard these days. But it's

585
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 7: an adrenaline rush like nothing else.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, I'll get you out of here on this.

587
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Speaker 5: You know, every time I check the betting line, it

588
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Speaker 5: seems like more money is coming in on Islam Mahashev.

589
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Speaker 5: He's a six to one favorite against Dustin Pourier. When

590
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Speaker 5: you're breaking down a fight like this that at least

591
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Speaker 5: on paper, and I know the betting line is but

592
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Speaker 5: one lens through which to look at this fight, But

593
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Speaker 5: when you're breaking down a fight that some people suggest

594
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Speaker 5: is so one sided, how is that exercise different than say,

595
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Speaker 5: a fight that's a pick them on paper?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 7: I try and think about this from Pore's perspective and

598
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Speaker 7: from his camp's perspective, because especially if you've got someone

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Speaker 7: that is so up again into the ards like Pori

600
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Speaker 7: is in this one, and up against people's expectations, I've

601
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Speaker 7: got to I've got to think that they're taking all

602
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Speaker 7: of this information in and they're either they're either feeling

603
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Speaker 7: very different about the fight for one reason or another,

604
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Speaker 7: or they're taking into account what the general population of

605
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Speaker 7: the MMA fan base is saying and trying to reverse

606
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Speaker 7: engineer it in some way. That's what I'd be trying

607
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Speaker 7: to do. Like, I don't know whether this whole guillotine

608
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Speaker 7: thing is a bit of a bit of a game

609
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Speaker 7: to stop Makachev level changing and try and get him

610
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Speaker 7: to use upper body takedowns and trips and reaps. The

611
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Speaker 7: downside for guillotines is that, you know, I know, it's

612
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Speaker 7: one of the most successful submissions in all of mixed

613
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Speaker 7: martial arts, but that's because fighters are spamming it every weekend. Like,

614
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Speaker 7: how many times do you see someone jump on a

615
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Speaker 7: guillotine and not get it?

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Speaker 4: You know, right?

617
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Speaker 7: So like, and we've seen it from Poia, he tries

618
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Speaker 7: it over and over again. I don't I don't think

619
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Speaker 7: he's going to be that stupid this time around, because

620
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Speaker 7: if he ends upon the bottom, he almost always exposes

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Speaker 7: his back and that could be the end of the

622
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Speaker 7: line against Makachev. I think we're going to see Poirier

623
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Speaker 7: wrestling offensively. That's what I think we're going to see,

624
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Speaker 7: because that's the most outside of the box thing that

625
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Speaker 7: I could think he would do, Like take it to Mackachev,

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Speaker 7: force him to grapple, put him on his back, see

627
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Speaker 7: if he can make him uncomfortable. Every other route for

628
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Speaker 7: me is a dead end, even if he decides to

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Speaker 7: keep it striking, I feel like Mackachev's level of striking

630
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Speaker 7: now as well as the predictability of Dustin's striking game

631
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Speaker 7: with all dear respect. Sure you're not seeing new things

632
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Speaker 7: in his game, but we still see new things every

633
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Speaker 7: time with Makachev.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, you can get Dan Hardy's analysis further on the

636
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Speaker 5: Full Reptile YouTube channel. Nothing better than the war room.

637
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Speaker 5: And you know I've said this repeatedly. There may be

638
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Speaker 5: analysts as good as you, Dan, but there's nobody better.

639
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Speaker 5: I know how hard you work, I know how obsessed

640
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Speaker 5: you are with this stuff, and as I say to

641
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Speaker 5: Kenville all the time, I hope to crack a mic

642
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Speaker 5: with you at some point before all this said and done.

643
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Speaker 5: But appreciate your time at Dan Hardy MMA on Instagram,

644
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Speaker 5: best of Veronica, and hope to see in Manchester.

645
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Speaker 8: Brother.

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much, guys. I'll speak to you both

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Speaker 5: Former UFC World title challenger and now the director of

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Speaker 5: I think eight predictions for UFC threeh two. But it

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Speaker 5: is interesting when you hear Dan Hardy talk about Leon

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Speaker 5: Edwards and we can talk about Bala Mohammed beating Gilbert

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Speaker 5: Burns in relative health on short notice, knowing that he

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Speaker 5: was potentially going to have to wait a year plus,

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Speaker 5: not unlike Aleschandre Pantosia. You know, but I really am

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Speaker 5: curious to see how this matchup plays out because when

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Speaker 5: you look back at the twenty twenty one meeting that

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Speaker 5: ended on ceremoniously with the ipoke, Leon Edwards really was

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Speaker 5: having his way on the feet and perhaps Blal and

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Speaker 5: others would take exception with that statement, but he was

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Speaker 5: really doing a good job there. That was a twenty

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Speaker 5: five foot octagon, no crowd.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: But you think about all the championship experience and training

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Speaker 5: that Leon Edwards has accrued since that point in time.

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Speaker 5: You know, I do think it stands to reason this

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Speaker 5: is the toughest matchup across this welterweight division for Bala Muhammed.

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Speaker 6: No question about it. And I agree with you, John,

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Speaker 6: I think that he was having his way with Blall. However,

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Speaker 6: this is a huge advantage for Belall. It's like, now

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Speaker 6: he knows what he's in for. Now he knows exactly

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Speaker 6: what Leon Edwards is about and what he needs to

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Speaker 6: prepare for and where he needs to improve. So I

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Speaker 6: think this was kind of a blessing in disguise for Belall.

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Speaker 6: And if there's a guy who knows how to approach

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Speaker 6: this from a strategy and tactic standpoint, and if there's

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Speaker 6: a guy who has the composure to go out there

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Speaker 6: and execute, it's Blall.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's a very intelligent fighter.

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Speaker 6: He always seems to shine when he needs to, and

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Speaker 6: I think having that experience against Leon Edwards is going

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Speaker 6: to be very helpful as they approach their next fight.

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Speaker 5: You know that Kabib rub is pretty powerful and a

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Speaker 5: lot of you on social media have probably seen Blal

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Speaker 5: alongside Habim mago Medov in islamikashev as he gets ready

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Speaker 5: for this weekend. And I do believe that there is

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Speaker 5: an opportunity and I hope I'm not speaking out of

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Speaker 5: turn for blow to go to Dagistan for a chunk

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Speaker 5: of this training camp. You know, but how do you

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Speaker 5: quantify that Kabib Rubb right, he was in his corner

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Speaker 5: for the Sean Brady knockout, and I don't know if

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Speaker 5: he would be in his corner here on July twenty

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Speaker 5: seventh in Manchester, England. I tend to doubt he would be,

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Speaker 5: you know, but I don't know, man, I don't know

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Speaker 5: that there's any overstating just how valuable that is for

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Speaker 5: Balal to be around those guys and Kabibe in particular,

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Speaker 5: just doesn't get any better than that.

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Speaker 6: Well, I certainly think it kind of acts as kind

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Speaker 6: of a battery in some ways in that it charges

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Speaker 6: you up knowing that you have one of the best

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Speaker 6: fighters to ever compete inside the octagon giving you instructions

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Speaker 6: on fight night, that you know, there's some kind of

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Speaker 6: recipe that has been quite successful over there in Daugistan

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Speaker 6: that you can kind of emulate and turn to. So

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Speaker 6: and just a matter of like Habib his presence when

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Speaker 6: he walks in the room, the kind of confidence that

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Speaker 6: he displays, all the experience that he's accrued from his

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Speaker 6: father and from his own experiences as a competitor, isn't valuable.

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Speaker 4: That is huge. Now it's especially important if you do.

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Speaker 6: Have the idea that you want to go out there

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Speaker 6: and outgrapple your opponent, which I think will be a component.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure Ballall is that high level wrestler necessarily,

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Speaker 6: but he can take people down. He can take people

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Speaker 6: down and control them, and I think that's only going

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Speaker 6: to get better in training with guys like Kabibe, Normaga,

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Speaker 6: Metov and all the guys that he has underneath his wings.

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Speaker 6: Is it going to be the best method here against

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Speaker 6: someone like Leon Edwards where he will most likely have

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Speaker 6: to rely on his striking skills. I'm not so sure,

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Speaker 6: but from a strategy and tactic standpoint, I think it

788
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Speaker 6: will be helpful. Can they help his striking It's possible.

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Speaker 6: But just training with those guys and having that high

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Speaker 6: level sparring and high level corner it's gonna help, no

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Speaker 6: question about it.

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Speaker 5: Gotta be working on that rear naked shoke. If you're

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Speaker 5: belating moment, you would think, all right, Ray Longo coming

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Speaker 5: up in sixty seconds. But Cody, actually our producer Code Blue,

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Speaker 5: Ken flow of your I a favor submitting Jeff Glover

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Speaker 5: here on UFC fight pass. So we're gonna roll that tape.

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Speaker 5: This is the end of the fight.

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Speaker 4: Has him in the crucifix, were the rear naked. You're

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Speaker 4: on a favor. That is awesome. And I saw him

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Speaker 4: a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 6: Well, I guess last time I was in Vegas, and

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Speaker 6: it's always great to see you arrive.

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Speaker 4: Man, He's always smiling and still competing.

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Speaker 6: And Jeff Glover, dude, Jeff Glover in his prime was

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Speaker 6: one of the slickest grapplers in the world. Like I

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Speaker 6: remember when I was probably a brown belt, maybe I

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Speaker 4: He was a purple belt back in the day Jeff

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Speaker 4: Glover was. He was unbelievable. I was like, how is

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Speaker 4: an American moving like that with all those fancy moves,

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Speaker 4: But uh, you'reiats. He still got it on the back, dude.

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Speaker 5: That's great at Anti Florian pot if you want to

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Speaker 5: Florian podcast. In the ray Long Go minute.

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Speaker 7: He is now times with a Ray Long minute. I

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Speaker 9: That's what I want, is the.

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Speaker 1: Ray Long Minute and the John Annik and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: Imagine having the balls to say on a hot UFC mic,

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Speaker 5: Not that you care about being miked up, but I

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Speaker 5: That's what I want.

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Speaker 4: What a daviage?

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Speaker 6: Ray Longo would have on straight to jail, Chris Wiman Bunch.

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Speaker 6: I realized that, and you would have been a.

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Speaker 8: Jail right now, and I would have taken it. I

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Speaker 5: Found myself googling, actually a few days ago, what you

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Speaker 5: do if your dog in jess cannabis? Can you go

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Speaker 5: My dog was pretty disoriented for three hours.

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Speaker 9: Man, who's gonna find that? We just bury him in

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Speaker 9: the backyard. John, Who's gonna freaking.

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Speaker 4: Out more than your dog.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I don't know how like cannabis got

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Speaker 5: in my backyard, but my dog ate a nugget and

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Speaker 8: John started. You know what he did, Kenny to just

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Speaker 8: hedge on his beds.

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Speaker 9: He's put a couple of his dog is missing signs

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Speaker 8: The dog went south. He was going to bury bury

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Speaker 8: that dog in the backyard and say that dog ran away.

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Speaker 5: You're right, you're right. I don't know why my neighbors

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Speaker 5: you last week, buddy? How we doing? Looks like you're

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860
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 9: You're looking good, well, looking, feeling good. We had great

861
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 9: weather in New York, Man, I'm enjoying every second of it.

862
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 9: So a lot of bike ride and working out, keep

863
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 9: people killing it. We had a couple of big wins

864
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 9: in the gym. We had actually a lot of a

865
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 9: lot of wins in the gym, but in that one week, Yeah,

866
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 9: James Gonzalez had a big win. Damian Nelson put on

867
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 9: a clinic up in Boston against one of your Bostonians.

868
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

869
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 9: I don't know what planet that kid was from. You

870
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 9: gotta you gotta look at that fight, Kenny. Really the

871
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 9: guy had the guy had a guy had a Spider

872
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 9: Man costume on in his corner. The whole fight full

873
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 9: Spider Man costume. What's going on up there? I don't know,

874
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 9: it's like six or No.

875
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 8: You gotta look at the fight. I don't know what

876
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 8: I was looking at. I mean, seemed like a nice kid.

877
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 5: But wow, that's your homework, Camflow look up the DAMI.

878
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 4: You gotta look it up.

879
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, but his spaceship might have already taken off, so

880
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 9: I'm not really sure if you're gonna catch him.

881
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 5: Did did any of your fighters lose spectacularly over the

882
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 5: weekend or no?

883
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 9: No, we had the week before I tell you match

884
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 9: daughter did a jiu jitsu match and in a big,

885
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 9: big on one of our fight cards.

886
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 8: The kid is Angie. Shout out to Angie Sarah. She's

887
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 8: a beast.

888
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 9: We had Greg Tyle win a big match kickboxing match,

889
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 9: Dave one Donnie Ronnie won the title matter of fact,

890
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 9: and Damian Knowlson won the title up there, I was

891
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 9: for a title, so he got the new England belt,

892
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 9: which is he put on a clinic.

893
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 8: You gotta go look at the fight.

894
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 5: It's a three toho two fight week. I mean, how

895
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: many times you want me to go look at this

896
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 5: fucking fight?

897
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 8: I mean, come on, what do you the whole week

898
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 8: off last We could have did this last week.

899
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, we could have.

900
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 8: You're right, but I gotta make up for lost time.

901
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 9: Rob Schultz he didn't get the NOD, but one of

902
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 9: the best kickboxing matches for that level I've seen in

903
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 9: a long time.

904
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 8: He did. No winner or loser in that fight. Was

905
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 8: a great fight. So everybody crushing it all?

906
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: Right? Ray?

907
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: How old is Angie right now? Sorry, Josh, she's fifteen fifteen?

908
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 8: She looks phenomenal.

909
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 9: Takedowns were on points, composed, you know, you know at

910
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 9: that age too to want to be in there and

911
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 9: to not get rattled.

912
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 8: I mean, it was definitely a thousand people there.

913
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: You know, it was it.

914
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 9: You know, she's a Sarah come on one hundred percent.

915
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 9: He's the happiest. You want to see a happy dad.

916
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 9: Look at that guy when his daughter's in That's it's phenomenal.

917
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 9: It's really it's a pleasure to watch. It really is good,

918
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 9: really good stuff.

919
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: Man.

920
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 5: So when I went through an ESPN Question Formation seminar

921
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 5: back in the day, they tell you not to ask

922
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 5: yes or no questions, but I feel like sometimes it's okay, Ray,

923
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 5: do you wear a bicycle helmet? No? I can tell

924
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 5: because you got all that beautiful you know, all the

925
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 5: brown skin, the forehead, you know, no helmet for me.

926
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 8: Huh, well, you know it is.

927
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 9: I go through the neighborhoods or I'm on a bike track,

928
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 9: so it's pretty safe. I'm not I'm not venturing out on.

929
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 8: Listen.

930
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 9: I don't even want to go actually drive my car anymore.

931
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 9: The people are insane. Is it that happening in Florida

932
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 9: where the driving is just fricking?

933
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 6: In New Yorkers, I'm at No one uses their signal.

934
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 6: People just know wherever they want.

935
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 8: Tenny, I can't even explain to you what I'm looking at.

936
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 9: And uh, another kid came in the gym, I think

937
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 9: it was yesterday and He said he witnessed a girl

938
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 9: hit a car, and he said she took off. They

939
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 9: were on you know, she hit the back of the car,

940
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 9: took off. He follows her because he sees the whole thing.

941
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 9: She gets off the next exit, he said. When she

942
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 9: he she realized he was following us. She started driving

943
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 9: on the sidewalks to get away from him.

944
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 8: And this is crazy. I once.

945
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 5: I remember I was leaving an overnight shift in Bristol, Connecticut,

946
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 5: and I tried to lose a cop on eighty four

947
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 5: and I didn't lose the cop. What a dumb fuck?

948
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 3: Right?

949
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 5: Like I I was alright at like at twenty five,

950
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 5: I made some good decisions twenty seven, twenty nine, Like,

951
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 5: what an idiot, you know, trying to lose a cop.

952
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 8: It's circumstantial.

953
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 9: I mean, if you could have had a couple of

954
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 9: hiding spots, I get it, But I hope it wasn't

955
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 9: on the open road.

956
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, just anyway, Ken Flow, I'm sorry I catch you

957
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 5: off twice.

958
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 4: Please, no, no, no, that was just that's crazy. I

959
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: didn't know about that.

960
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. Ray pay per view week,

961
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 5: Oh we got a lot, we got a lot today.

962
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 5: I mean, where do you want to begin. I mean,

963
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 5: I would love to ask you about Laren Murphy if

964
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 5: I could spend sixty seconds on that real quickly. Did

965
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 5: you see that last UFC main event? I only bring

966
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 5: it up in this conference, right because, and I hope

967
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 5: this doesn't come across as a shot at super Sadik

968
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 5: use of one of my favorites.

969
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 7: Right.

970
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 5: But Laron Murphy was able to do with a main

971
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 5: event against Edson Barbosa, everything that Sadik Yuseff wasn't necessarily

972
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 5: able to do, which is to say, he was able

973
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 5: to state to the NMA world, look at me like,

974
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 5: I'm here, I'm elite, I'm ready for prime time. Like

975
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 5: what a fucking performance for these still undefeated Laron Murphy

976
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 5: ray longer your thoughts?

977
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, one hundred percent. Man boxing was on point. He

978
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 9: controlled I think he controlled the whole fight. Bobos is

979
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 9: still tough as nails, but probably you know, half step

980
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 9: behind a little bit. But uh, you know, you could

981
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 9: see Bobo's like back in the day, he was like

982
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 9: things were just quicker, but he still he still got it.

983
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 9: But this kid just was younger and just was a

984
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 9: half step ahead, and he had powerful hands and he

985
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 9: put on a great fight.

986
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 5: Kenny, you had a big straight bet on Laron Murphy.

987
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 5: Also Chaos Williams. We'll just think of Larne the Miracle, Murphy,

988
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 5: Kent Flow.

989
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: I think you look great, and I think where Sadik

990
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 6: Usef failed was kind of in and potentially in the

991
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 6: mental department. To me, Laron Murphy seemed tuned in and

992
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 6: turned on. He was ready to compete and win that fight.

993
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 6: He consistently pressured Edson Barbosa and he threw volume. That's

994
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 6: what you gotta do. You gotta throw volume, and you

995
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 6: gotta put Edson Barbosa on the back foot. If you

996
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 6: allow and to come forward and throw all that offense,

997
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 6: you aren't gonna be in trouble. Because I agree with you, Ray,

998
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 6: I think Edson is a tad slower, but a tad

999
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 6: slower is still extremely dangerous for someone like Edsen Barbosa.

1000
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 6: He's got so much offensive firepower. You have to take

1001
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 6: that away from him. And that's where Laron Murphy succeeded

1002
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 6: in on all fronts. You know, whether it was with

1003
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 6: his striking, like his boxing like Ray was talking about.

1004
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 6: In the pocket, I thought he was kicking very well,

1005
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 6: disrupting the rhythm of Edsen Barbosa really well. And he

1006
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 6: was successful in the takedown attempts as well. So the

1007
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 6: pressure of the pacing, the conditioning. He was firing in

1008
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 6: all cylinders. And what made it all the more impressive

1009
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 6: is the fact that this kid isn't fighting every three months.

1010
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 6: He's taken these times this time off, whether it's by

1011
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 6: mistake or on purpose, whatever it is, it's working. He

1012
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 6: knows how to compete at the highest levels.

1013
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 4: Now he is elite. That's the way.

1014
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1015
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 4: When I was watching him, watching his previous fights, I

1016
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: was like, where's where's the hiccup?

1017
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 6: What am I not seeing? This kid is late, is

1018
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 6: elite and going to be elite. And that's why I

1019
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 6: was so confident in him. He proved me right, thankfully,

1020
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 6: doesn't always turn out that way. But Murphy's a problem, man,

1021
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 6: He's a problem.

1022
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 9: And I'll tell you you the key, Kenny that you

1023
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 9: said is Bobo's even in his prime, always had problems

1024
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 9: with pressure. I mean, he just that if you let

1025
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 9: him lead the dance back in the day, he's you

1026
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 9: can't do it.

1027
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 8: You can't do it. But if you keep him on

1028
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 8: his back foot like you said, and.

1029
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 9: Pressure him and to pressure him, you need the power

1030
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 9: to do that, and little Rolle Murphy one hundred percent

1031
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 9: had the power. I mean, if you don't have the power,

1032
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 9: you're not going to pressure Bobosa. But the guys that

1033
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 9: had that one big shot or to put combos together

1034
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 9: moving forward, I think he always had a problem with that.

1035
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, so one fighter said to me recently, Man, Dustin

1036
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 5: Porier being that big an underdog against any fighter is crazy.

1037
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 5: But then when I turn the Islami Kashev film on,

1038
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 5: maybe I understand why. So, Ray, we have a huge

1039
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 5: spread this weekend for this undisputed UFC lightweight title fight.

1040
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 5: Islami Kashchev now north of minus six hundred on DraftKings

1041
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 5: Sportsbook as the betting favorite against Dustin Pooria. I'm curious

1042
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 5: what your expectations are for this pay per view main event, ah.

1043
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 9: Man, I expect islam to do what he always does,

1044
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 9: and he's I mean, he's he's gonna get the win. Unfortunately,

1045
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 9: I think Dustin's unbelievable. But I just you know, he's

1046
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 9: getting like again, he's getting old.

1047
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 8: I just don't see.

1048
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd like to see him go for the guillotine

1049
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 9: about five more times I would love that, butchchasm or no,

1050
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 9: but even he but even he's sarcastic about it.

1051
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 8: So it's not I'm not saying anything. That's the wrong

1052
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 8: guy under half.

1053
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 5: A guillotine attampt Kenny over under half a guillotine attempt

1054
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 5: in the fight for Dustin Poria.

1055
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 8: But yeah, he has fun with it.

1056
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 9: I love the way he answered the question. But uh,

1057
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 9: Islam's too squared away, That's what I'm saying.

1058
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 3: It's not.

1059
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 8: He's not Saint Denia whatever that kid's name was. Again,

1060
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 8: Ben was St. Deny.

1061
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 9: But this guy's you know, that's why when you look

1062
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 9: at his tape, that's why you start going maybe maybe

1063
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 9: the odds are correct, even against a guy like Dustin.

1064
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 9: I mean, he's Islam's for real. I mean there's no

1065
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 9: hiccups in him either at this point. Maybe Dustin could

1066
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 9: find one. Uh, but we'll see what happens. But I

1067
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 9: think it's pretty safe to say Islam is gonna win

1068
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 9: that fight.

1069
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 5: It is pretty amazing. Canflow that ray cornered against Ben was.

1070
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 4: The French guy? Well listen, what about the co made

1071
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 4: you know.

1072
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 5: That French guy that I had kicked twenty of your

1073
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 5: pupils out.

1074
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 8: Of the red Yeah, what's his day again?

1075
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say it.

1076
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, Ben Ben wa bulls. I know the

1077
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 9: guy well now he said he's listening. That guy's a

1078
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 9: good guy. I'm horrible with names.

1079
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 5: I'm just messing with, just messing with good.

1080
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 4: God don't know.

1081
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 5: Hey, by the way, did you wish Ken Flo a

1082
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 5: happy birthday? Was his birthday? Yesterday?

1083
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 8: Ray?

1084
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: No way?

1085
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 4: Did you just have a birthday? To Ray? Sixty eight?

1086
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1087
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 8: It was, Yeah, the twentieth was my birthday day. We

1088
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 8: took off.

1089
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought we were coming on just for my birthday.

1090
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 9: And Cody goes, what are you kidding me? This is

1091
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 9: this guy's ain't coming on.

1092
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 5: We missed Ray his birthday. I mean we got Cody

1093
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 5: May fifteenth and you made twentieth, and Ken Flow May

1094
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 5: twenty sixth, and Frank Mire in there. I can't keep

1095
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 5: it all tracked.

1096
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 4: GSP is like.

1097
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 8: Nineteenth or weekend?

1098
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: Any Ray? How old were you?

1099
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 4: I just hurt forty eight?

1100
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 8: Oh wow, maybe that's great old to you. Forty eight

1101
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 8: is actually a baby? Has that?

1102
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 9: Okay, there you go, that's a forty eight. I was

1103
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 9: still sick in the head. So that you got a

1104
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 9: long way to go.

1105
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 5: But you reacted as if you were surprised that he

1106
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 5: is that old. Correct.

1107
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 8: I think he looks younger than forty.

1108
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, though, You're like, wow, forty eight.

1109
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,479
Speaker 5: You know, I said to my wife, he Kenny's forty

1110
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 5: eight today. She's like, fuck, yeah, it's.

1111
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 8: A hot forty that's your wife said, that's a hot

1112
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 8: forty eight year old.

1113
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 5: No, well, no doubt. I mean we talk about his

1114
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 5: looks all the time, Kenny saying.

1115
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I want to mention to Kenny too. We started

1116
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 9: training the fbi OK school. We got like a contract

1117
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 9: for once a month. So yeah, that's all I think.

1118
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 9: I don't know why I was thinking of I, but

1119
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 9: I told you I always want to hook my buddy

1120
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 9: up with you.

1121
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 8: You guys same mindset, loves us, loves all of that stuff.

1122
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fantastic, good stuff. I want to talk about

1123
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 4: the other five rounder.

1124
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 6: We have Strickland taken on Paulo Costa, which I think

1125
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 6: is a really interesting matchup. I'm not exactly sure which

1126
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 6: way I'm gonna go at this at this stage, but

1127
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 6: I don't know, how are you handicapping that fight.

1128
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 9: Oh man, I kind of like Strickland in that fight.

1129
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 9: I think Costa is gonna give him the fight he wants.

1130
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 9: I think Strickland could take a punch. I think Strickland's

1131
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 9: mentally tougher, you know, in that in those scenarios. Uh yeah,

1132
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 9: I think I think Strickland navigates. I think he's going

1133
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 9: to navigate that pretty easily, believe it or not, you

1134
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 9: know what I mean. I think, you know, I think

1135
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 9: the other guy is going to give him the boxing

1136
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 9: match he wants get. Throw a couple of kicks in

1137
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 9: here and there, but nothing that I don't think he

1138
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 9: could rattle. He'd have to catch him.

1139
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 8: I mean, he's got the power, but I just don't

1140
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 8: think he's got that snap and that speed to like

1141
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 8: like what Pereira did to him, you know.

1142
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 9: I mean, he's a big, strong guy, but I think

1143
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 9: Strickland he's got to be used to seeing that a

1144
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 9: thousand times. So I think Strickland gets the job done.

1145
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 9: I think that's a like a really good fight for him.

1146
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 5: So where will you be this Saturday, June first for

1147
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 5: UFC three to oh two? Ray?

1148
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 7: Uh?

1149
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 5: I mean, haven't forbid you come? Say hello and attend

1150
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 5: the pay per view. I know you like to profile,

1151
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 5: but it's not that fun.

1152
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 8: You're coming into town. Are we getting together? Is that

1153
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 8: what you're saying?

1154
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1155
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 5: I mean i'd be happy to break some bread, you know.

1156
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1157
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 5: Uh oh, we missed Buffer's birthday as well.

1158
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 4: I was going to say, shoot, yeah, are you staying

1159
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 4: in Jersey or New York?

1160
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 5: Johnny, I'm staying right in Newark, Belly of the Beast.

1161
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 8: Belly at East. We got to get you to New York.

1162
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 5: No, No, I don't think so. I mean, hey, he's

1163
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 5: not hanging out in Newark, john Okay, he's not brick

1164
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 5: City Red.

1165
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 8: I actually made h.

1166
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 9: I think I'm going to end up in the Bronx

1167
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 9: that Armando's got a social club over there.

1168
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 8: I might just piss to go.

1169
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 9: So we're thinking about it, but I think if Armando's listening,

1170
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 9: I think we're coming.

1171
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 8: Armando, you're not allowed in a come on.

1172
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 5: A couple other questions.

1173
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 8: I don't even like saying that to you. I'd like

1174
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 8: to see that to him.

1175
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 5: We are scheduled to be joined by Welchway contender Walking

1176
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 5: Buckley here in about five minutes, but we do have

1177
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 5: five minutes or so with Ray Longo. Sorry, I just

1178
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 5: got a message, and that twin brother thinks that I'm uh,

1179
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 5: you know, being disrespectful or something. I don't even all right,

1180
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 5: So this is a question. It's a rather serious one.

1181
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 5: So I don't know why I stumbled upon this feature

1182
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 5: several weeks after UFC three oh one on ESPN dot com.

1183
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 5: But it was Anthony lyonhart Smith talking about his fear

1184
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 5: of retirement and how purposively his adult life has been

1185
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 5: centered around chasing ten pounds of gold, right, and once

1186
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 5: that goal maybe and Kenny, I know, is nodding his

1187
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 5: head in affirmation once that goal is no longer? Like

1188
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 5: who am I? What am I?

1189
00:55:59,440 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: So?

1190
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 5: Ray, I don't know where your obligation begins and ends

1191
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 5: as a coach, But certainly there are fighters who walk

1192
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 5: into your gym with varying degrees of potential. But some

1193
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 5: fighters go all in, and you know, fifteen years later

1194
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 5: they're not going to have financial gain. They might have

1195
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 5: head trauma. So where does your obligation begin and end

1196
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 5: when it comes to, you know, trying to establish something

1197
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 5: else in life, even if it relates to mixed martial arts.

1198
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 5: So that when that day comes, you know they're of

1199
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 5: a better disposition in terms of their mental health and everything.

1200
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 3: Uh.

1201
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 9: But look, it's it's one hundred percent discussed. I'll give

1202
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 9: you a good example. Right now, we have a kid,

1203
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 9: Anthony de Lemmy, great kid six and zero, should be

1204
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 9: on the Contender Series this summer, but he went into

1205
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 9: he's doing right now, he's in he's at the academy

1206
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 9: to become a court officer. So you know that's a

1207
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 9: job with benefits. And you know, like I tell him,

1208
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 9: twenty years from now, you'll be ahead everybody with all

1209
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 9: the bennies if you do the right things.

1210
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 8: So I like the guy that have something. Second, you know,

1211
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 8: again it's only four months, so.

1212
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 9: He's going to be back to training and that's his

1213
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 9: dream is to get in the UFC, which he definitely

1214
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 9: belongs at this point.

1215
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 8: So I you know, we discuss it, you know what

1216
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 8: I mean, it is discussed. Like the money.

1217
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 9: Everybody's complains about the money and if you don't hit

1218
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 9: it right. I mean when you see a guy, was

1219
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 9: it Michael Johnson that said he he can't pay his

1220
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 9: rent or something. Guy he's been in there for eleven years.

1221
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 9: Like if that's not scaring the shit at you. Uh,

1222
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 9: you know, I don't know what is.

1223
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 8: But you know, look our Jim, the guys have been lucky.

1224
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 9: Between Matt and Wide Menal Joe Mora about they all

1225
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 9: did really well.

1226
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 8: They're all doing well for themselves.

1227
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 9: You know. Fravola is you know, even he's got a

1228
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 9: great family, He's got a great thing going on over there.

1229
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 9: So the guys that have something to fall back on,

1230
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 9: or the guys that can make it are gonna there's

1231
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 9: not a problem. But if you don't have that safety

1232
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 9: that you really have to think twice about what you're doing,

1233
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 9: because you're right, you don't want to be twelve years

1234
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 9: down the line and really have not much to show

1235
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 9: for it, and then what are you going to do

1236
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 9: at that point if you don't have a skill set

1237
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 9: or something doesn't happen.

1238
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 8: So, yeah, you got to be careful. I think you

1239
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 8: have to be careful.

1240
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 9: But we talk about it, and again, I like the

1241
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 9: guys that have they hedge on it, they get a

1242
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 9: good job and they could always go back to it.

1243
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 5: I mean, Kenny called UFC eighty three, he called a

1244
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 5: pay per view before he even fought for the title,

1245
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 5: So Kenny. I'd imagine at some point maybe there was

1246
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 5: some anxiety or worry, but a lot of your second

1247
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 5: career was sort of foundationally laid before you you even retired.

1248
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 4: Dude, I definitely did not do this myself.

1249
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 6: I was very lucky to be in the right place

1250
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 6: at the right time, and to have people who offered

1251
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 6: a lot of things that were extremely helpful down the line.

1252
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of people are like, well, how

1253
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 6: did you plan this? Like it seemed like you set

1254
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 6: this thing, you know, comicly for yourself. I wish I

1255
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 6: could say that I just caught a my head down

1256
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 6: and worked hard, and luckily, you know, opportunities were really

1257
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 6: presented to me on my lap.

1258
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 4: So I feel so blessed.

1259
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 6: And that has been the real struggle for me is

1260
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 6: seeing a lot of these talented fighters and former elite

1261
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 6: world class fighters who are now struggling now, and you know,

1262
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 6: it's man, it is, it's savage out there. You know,

1263
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 6: the things that happen outside the cage oftentimes are more

1264
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 6: difficult than what happens inside the cage, and you have

1265
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 6: to do your best to understand that tomorrow is not

1266
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 6: promised and what you're able to do to set yourself

1267
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 6: up for the future is extremely important.

1268
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 4: How you spend your money, how you invest your money

1269
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 4: is It is not an easy thing.

1270
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 6: And you know, I've seen so many fighters, whether it's

1271
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 6: boxing or MMA, guys that just didn't manage it properly.

1272
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 6: At one point they were doing well and now they're not.

1273
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 6: I mean, this isn't something that's exclusive to the fight

1274
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 6: game either, right, I mean, how many celebrities, how many musicians,

1275
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 6: how many guys that were doing great and all of

1276
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 6: a sudden are not. So it's it's a it's an

1277
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 6: issue for anybody who's in the limelight and people think, oh,

1278
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 6: that guy's on TV. He must be killing it.

1279
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 9: Oh oh god, that's the biggest thing. They think everybody's

1280
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 9: raking it in. But Kenny, from your era era, I mean,

1281
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 9: think of the guys were the hell today Now some

1282
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 9: guys that were really tough guys, and even a lot

1283
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 9: of guys you're probably fought, what the hell are they doing?

1284
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 3: Right?

1285
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: You know?

1286
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 8: So it does get scary even for me.

1287
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 9: People ask me how I did it at this point,

1288
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 9: I'm like, man, maybe right place, right time, but I

1289
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 9: would do like we're trying to get the school going

1290
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 9: in like a different direction, Like you can tell everything,

1291
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 9: do everything the opposite of what I did, because I

1292
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 9: I didn't. I don't know what the hell I was doing.

1293
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 9: I just was having fun and I knew, you know,

1294
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 9: something was gonna happen. But I, you know, there was nothing.

1295
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 9: There was nothing in cement for sure, you know. I

1296
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 9: just I had a weird way of doing every like again,

1297
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 9: never had a contract with anybody. I never really cared

1298
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 9: about that. I just wanted to see guys succeed. And

1299
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 9: I think through doing that, you know, I succeeded, So

1300
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 9: it was all It.

1301
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 8: All worked out good.

1302
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 9: But I wouldn't I wouldn't rec I really wouldn't recommend

1303
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 9: that to anybody.

1304
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 5: The new instagram is that long gos mma a few

1305
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 5: years ago, Ray, I mean not to go too far

1306
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 5: down this path, but there were there were some really

1307
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 5: challenging times in conversations a few years ago. Right, despite

1308
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 5: obviously with the public seeds of you realizing this great

1309
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 5: UFC and MMA success across several different eras, Right, there

1310
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 5: were some tough times around COVID and everything else.

1311
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, well out of that that was another thing.

1312
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 8: You know, then what do you do?

1313
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 9: You know, Loo Covid kind of split the team up,

1314
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 9: so that that's probably at this point because I'm getting older,

1315
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 9: it's never coming back.

1316
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 3: You know.

1317
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 8: We had a really tight group of guys and people.

1318
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 9: Started moving, you start losing, Like you know, Widman was

1319
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 9: a great guy to have at the gym. He was

1320
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 9: always you know, insightful and intelligent, you know, Aljaiel Morob

1321
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 9: Morob being you know, you know, the heart and soul

1322
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 9: of the team. He's always doing something. So when you

1323
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 9: start losing, those three guys alone, you know, could take

1324
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 9: you down, like you know what I mean. But we

1325
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 9: were deep enough to keep going and everybody did their

1326
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 9: best to try to stick together. But it was definitely

1327
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 9: a trying period for sure, one hundred percent on that.

1328
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 9: And you didn't know what the future held. He didn't

1329
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 9: know when the thing was going to end it for

1330
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 9: him coming back, and you know that was the other thing.

1331
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 9: It could have happened, It could happen again, and then

1332
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 9: you would, you know, you would definitely down. Look, Matt

1333
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 9: lost one of his schools and it turned out to

1334
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 9: be the best thing he ever did. But he had

1335
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 9: to get rid of a really big and nice school.

1336
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 5: And someone in the YouTube comments shouting out your your

1337
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 5: guy raging ally Quinta as the og of figuring out

1338
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 5: his next thing, and it can also though not work

1339
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 5: out right. I mean Henry Shudo, I think was chasing

1340
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 5: real estate gains as well, and maybe he is doing fantastically,

1341
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 5: but he did come back to fighting right, and he's

1342
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 5: fought twice since retiring, you know. So yeah, how about

1343
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 5: raging out right? I mean being convicted in that decision

1344
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 5: and not looking back.

1345
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, one hundred percent great kids, just had his one

1346
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 9: year anniversary, opened up his real estate business, and uh.

1347
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 8: He's he's he's he's gonna do great. There's no question

1348
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 8: about it. He's doing great.

1349
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 9: You know, these guys, the guys that did it right,

1350
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 9: and they hit it right, you know they have it

1351
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 9: is a good start, you know what I mean. If

1352
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 9: you could get out of there at like thirty five

1353
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 9: and you put it put away some money, it's a

1354
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 9: it's a good start to your life. And you know,

1355
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 9: these guys all did the right thing, al Joe, they

1356
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 9: invest in houses, uh and you know, things just worked out,

1357
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 9: you know.

1358
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 8: So I don't worry about any of those guys.

1359
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 9: They're all doing well, and you know, like again, if

1360
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 9: they do well, I do well, you know, I mean

1361
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 9: even mentally, I'm saying, you know it, just it makes

1362
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 9: me feel good that I did the right thing. Instead

1363
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 9: of having a bunch of guys that are, you know, homeless,

1364
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 9: living on the street, these guys are all they're all

1365
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 9: killing it. They're all living their best lives. I mean,

1366
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 9: you know it's not over for obviously Aljoe yet, but

1367
01:03:58,800 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 9: he's han't.

1368
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 5: The guys have a Oh yeah, look at his bank

1369
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 5: account right and look at his head coaches skin, I mean,

1370
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 5: look at your fucking complexion. Hey, we got joking Buckley here,

1371
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 5: so uh, we gotta let you go, Raymond. But you

1372
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 5: look great unless you want to stick around for new Mansa,

1373
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 5: which you're welcome to do. But I think we're gonna

1374
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 5: let you go.

1375
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 9: I'm gonna get the hell at you get out. I

1376
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 9: got I got, you know, Algels at the gym. I

1377
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 9: haven't really seen him, so I want.

1378
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 3: To go down.

1379
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 5: Joe, have a great day and the better even you're

1380
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 5: the best.

1381
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 4: I love you.

1382
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 8: Take it easy, guys, Thanks, yeah, thank you very much.

1383
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 5: Sorry about that very long ago. With us every week

1384
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 5: here on the Anaicon Florian Podcast and now with us

1385
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 5: on the guest line. I love this guy. The number

1386
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 5: eleven ranks Welch away contender out of Saint Louis, Missouri, USA,

1387
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 5: New Mansa Jouquing Buckley is with us. Congratulations on the win.

1388
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: Man.

1389
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 10: How we feeling man, We're feeling good man. I just

1390
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 10: want to say, Man, first off, Bro, thank you for

1391
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 10: having me on the show.

1392
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 7: Bro.

1393
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 3: You a real one out of all the people that

1394
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 3: you work with.

1395
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 10: You the realists, you know, the real deal, almost like

1396
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 10: Holy Fields, you know what I'm saying, Like John and

1397
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 10: in above fucking building.

1398
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate you well.

1399
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 5: Thank you, man, I appreciate that. And there are certainly

1400
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 5: fighters on the roster who don't necessarily subscribe to what

1401
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 5: you just said. But in all honesty, I'm really just

1402
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 5: trying to call it like I see it, and I

1403
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 5: just have a lot of respect for everything that you've

1404
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 5: done and to think about where you are in terms

1405
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 5: of your UFC progression, right, like I think back to

1406
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 5: UFC two eighty two in December of twenty twenty two,

1407
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 5: right the knockout loss to Chris Curtis. At that point,

1408
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 5: you lost two in a row, your seven fights removed

1409
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 5: from maybe the greatest knockout in UFC history against Impa Kasangani.

1410
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 5: And now look at what you've done with the two

1411
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 5: years since. So I guess it's a pretty good jumping

1412
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 5: off point for our conversation. Like take me back to

1413
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 5: that moment at the end of twenty twenty two where

1414
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 5: you at with your mindset.

1415
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 10: So with taking that loss from Chris Curtis, right, I

1416
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 10: think for me personally, every loss that I had I've

1417
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 10: definitely learned from, but particularly with the Chris Curtis loss, right,

1418
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 10: I learned that first off, you know, this sport is

1419
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 10: not about ego, right, It's not about you know, not

1420
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 10: having respect for your competitors, because at the end of

1421
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 10: the day, if you don't respect your competitors, they gonna

1422
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 10: make me respect them. Right, at the time, I didn't

1423
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 10: respect Chris Curtis for his abilities at the time because

1424
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 10: I really thought that, you know, I was better at

1425
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 10: that time and at that moment.

1426
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 3: But with all that being said, you know one thing

1427
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 3: that I learned from.

1428
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 10: Chris Curtis, When you got power, you could be patient, Right.

1429
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 10: You don't have to rush things, you don't have to

1430
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 10: force things to happen. You can allow yourself to allow

1431
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 10: things to open up and allow your opponents to expose themselves,

1432
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 10: and then that's when you take advantage.

1433
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: Right.

1434
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 3: So that's one thing that I took away from the.

1435
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 10: Chris Curtis fight as a personal like, you know, one

1436
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 10: on one tip from Chris Curtis, but overall, you know,

1437
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 10: I realized as well, I said, man one eighty five,

1438
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 10: ain't just it's not for me, right, I had to

1439
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 10: move down. I was already planning on moving down to

1440
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 10: what's wait after my National Dean fight. But you know,

1441
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 10: yet again, ego, yet again, money Right, A lot of

1442
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 10: things clouded my vision and clouded my judgment in order

1443
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 10: to move down to what toweight And that's why I

1444
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 10: took Chris Curtis fight.

1445
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 3: Right, So I kind of you know what I mean.

1446
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 10: I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say fucked up my career

1447
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 10: type shit, But you know, at the end of the day,

1448
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 10: like I feel like I made a mistake because I

1449
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 10: took an unnecessary loss, right, I feel like that I

1450
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 10: didn't need to.

1451
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 3: But regardless of without that loss, I wouldn't have.

1452
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 10: That same type of mindset that I do now, which

1453
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 10: is like I said before taking the ego out of

1454
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 10: it and just allowing this shit to be all about

1455
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 10: business and also having a respect for each and every

1456
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 10: person I get in there with. So every time I

1457
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,439
Speaker 10: train and every time I get ready, I respect people

1458
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 10: like they're world champion.

1459
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 3: You know.

1460
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 10: That's how I look at every one of my competitors.

1461
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 10: You know, everybody's a world champion.

1462
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1463
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 5: Well, and the results have been there, four straight wins.

1464
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 5: You just beat Nurselton Rusterboy IV in Saint Louis, and

1465
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 5: the capstone moment, of course, is you being the undisputed

1466
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 5: UFC welterweight champion. But I gotta think, man, ten to

1467
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 5: fifteen years from now, when you reflect upon that night

1468
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 5: in Saint Louis, to have twenty thousand people, you know,

1469
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 5: eating out of the palm of your hand, and be

1470
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 5: able to put on for your city like short of

1471
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 5: a world championship, I'm not sure how much better it

1472
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 5: really gets than being able to put on for an

1473
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 5: arena in your hometown like that.

1474
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,799
Speaker 10: The only way it get better is if I'm actually

1475
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 10: fighting for a belt, yeah in my city, right. I

1476
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 10: think that's the only thing that can come as close

1477
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 10: as that moment, because that was big, That was a

1478
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 10: big moment.

1479
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 3: Man. They put a big boy in front of me, six'

1480
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 3: five from the.

1481
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 10: Mountains, right you, know you know the boy. Home we

1482
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 10: want to make a name for itself on a ten

1483
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 10: fight winning. Street we're all knockouts in the first. Round,

1484
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 10: everybody even in my, hometown, like, bro we don't know

1485
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 10: how you're gonna do, it, right you. Know so a

1486
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 10: lot of people doubted, me a lot of people didn't

1487
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 10: have me picked to win this. Fight but regardless, THOUGH

1488
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 10: i was confident in my. ABILITIES i knew WHAT i

1489
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 10: was capable of, doing AND i knew THAT i was

1490
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 10: gonna show out for this. Fight you, know because yet,

1491
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 10: again even THOUGH i see every competitor as a world,

1492
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 10: CHAMPION i know THAT i can beat that world, champion,

1493
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 10: RIGHT i can beat that person that's in front of,

1494
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 10: me no matter who it, is, right as long as

1495
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 10: they got a chain AND i can touch that, MOTHERFUCKER

1496
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 10: i know THAT i have the ability to. Win so

1497
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 10: with that being, said it's just LIKE i go out

1498
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 10: there every time with the confidence in my heart That

1499
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 10: i'm going to win this, fight. Right so you, know,

1500
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 10: yeah we went out there and showed out man in

1501
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 10: front of everybody In Saint Louis.

1502
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 4: Man that shit was, crazy AND i think you showed

1503
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 4: a different wrinkle to your. GAME i mean it was

1504
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 4: it was grappling.

1505
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 6: Heavy you were nullifying, him you were disrupting any rhythm

1506
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 6: that he was trying to create and putting him on his. Back,

1507
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 6: now is this something that you've been developing for a

1508
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 6: little while to kind of have in your back pocket

1509
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 6: as you move forward to move up the?

1510
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 10: Rankings well yeah, again well for, me, RIGHT a lot

1511
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 10: of people just don't realize and they just don't do their.

1512
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 3: Homework but it's nothing else in my back.

1513
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 10: POCKET i always had, it even WHEN i started WITH,

1514
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 10: mma WHEN i first you, know started, FIGHTING i used to,

1515
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 10: be you, know a. WRESTLER i wasn't a. STRIKER i

1516
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 10: wouldn't a. BOXER i would take people down AND i

1517
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 10: would finishing.

1518
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 2: With, grind.

1519
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 10: Pomp that was My that was my mo SINCE i

1520
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 10: was an amateur up until my early days into being a.

1521
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 10: Professional so pretty much we took it back to the old, school,

1522
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 10: right Young buck.

1523
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: Days, right that was my original nickname was Young.

1524
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 10: Buck so you, know cutting off to her, right you

1525
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 10: know WHAT i, mean getting just fresh and everything like.

1526
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 10: THAT i really feel like you, KNOW i was bringing

1527
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 10: back the old me and really kind of introducing people

1528
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 10: to the one Seventy joaquin bucket because people still trying

1529
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 10: to make me a one eighty five, fighter, Right they

1530
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 10: still want to, say, Oh i'm a middleweight. Fighter people

1531
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 10: don't REALIZE i have more one seventy fights THAN i

1532
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:39,839
Speaker 10: do middlewave.

1533
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 3: FIGHTS i started off my career at one.

1534
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 10: SEVENTY i just happened to fight at one eighty five

1535
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 10: because of the opportunity that, came and more opportunities just

1536
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 10: kept coming and kept coming.

1537
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 3: At one eighty five instead at one.

1538
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 10: Seventy you, Know so yet, Again i'm gonna let people

1539
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 10: think what they, think BECAUSE i think the best the

1540
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 10: best WAY i could be right now is where people

1541
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 10: have me in their head or they imagination That i'm

1542
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 10: not as good AS i. Am, right they underrestimate. Me

1543
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 10: and it's not just the, fans it's the. Fighters suit

1544
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 10: what they Dumbasses they underrested made me every single, time

1545
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 10: And i'm gonna show out on their ass every single.

1546
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 8: Time, well who?

1547
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 6: Were do you have a few names that you'd want

1548
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 6: to compete that you think THE ufc will give you

1549
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:17,879
Speaker 6: in your next couple of fights.

1550
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 10: With, ME i keep it a bug over, it, Right

1551
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 10: so they wanted me to fight. Again they actually wanted

1552
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 10: me to fight on the McGregor card Against Ian.

1553
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 3: Geartt. RIGHT i just had two back to back, fights.

1554
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 10: You, know going to last minute with a cent De, luca,

1555
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 10: right and then going into a last minute fight With rooseter.

1556
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 3: BOY i was, like, man let me take a little,

1557
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 3: break you, know Like Eve, garrett you a cool name and, all.

1558
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 10: But at the end of the, DAY i was, like,

1559
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 10: bro he's not the type of fight that is gonna

1560
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 10: make me a massive star right off the bat or

1561
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 10: right out the.

1562
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 3: Gate SO i was, like let me go, ahead chill.

1563
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 3: Out then they gave me.

1564
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 10: Another offer with a little bit more lengthy time In

1565
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 10: july AGAINST, mvp AND i, said.

1566
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 3: Hell, yeah let's run. That that makes more. Sense it's

1567
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: gonna be a man that's like look me carrying that flag,

1568
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 3: out you know What i'm. Saying it loved to be, crazy,

1569
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 3: right you know WHAT i? Mean so THAT i was,

1570
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 3: like that's the type of fight that turned me into a.

1571
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 10: Star but unfortunately THOUGH mvp declined me and took In

1572
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 10: gary you need took that lit, Right but that makes

1573
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 10: more sense FOR mvp because at the end of the,

1574
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 10: day In gary's kind of ranked above me and it's

1575
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 10: an easier fight FOR, mvp right, Right so for for my,

1576
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 10: opinion it's, like, DAMN i kind of dropped the ball on.

1577
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 10: That but at the end of the, day it's just,

1578
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 10: LIKE i gotta make Sure i'm doing this the smart,

1579
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 10: way not on some ego shit yet, again, RIGHT i

1580
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 10: GOTTA i gotta make sure that When i'm, Fighting i'm

1581
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 10: ready Because Ian gary been preparing this whole. Time Where

1582
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 10: i'm coming off two back to back. Camps, right let

1583
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 10: me tune up some, shit let me get more prepared for,

1584
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 10: whoever don't matter who it, is and run it back

1585
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,560
Speaker 10: to you know What i'm, saying get a. Fight so

1586
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 10: whoever is willing to be open in the rankings, World

1587
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 10: i'm down to, fight but you know it just gotta

1588
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 10: be on my.

1589
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 5: Time i'm gonna See Gilbert burns later. TODAY i think

1590
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 5: that fight makes a lot of. Sense obviously is already, booked, Bro,

1591
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 5: yeah is he he know he?

1592
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 3: Booked he know who he.

1593
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 10: FIGHT i don't know if he can release. It, YEAH

1594
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 10: i don't know if he could, say but we already

1595
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 10: know who he.

1596
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 5: Walking buckley with us here on The Anakin florian. Podcast

1597
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 5: if you want to follow, him it's At New mansa ninety.

1598
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 5: FOUR i hate WHEN i hear people say New, Mantsa

1599
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 5: New mansa WHAT i want to get Into New. Massa we.

1600
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 5: KNOW i want to get into this topic because since your,

1601
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 5: win and it's important for people to have an opinion of.

1602
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 5: You whether they love you or hate you doesn't really,

1603
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 5: matter but you don't want them to be. Indifferent but

1604
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 5: you've gotten into it with a few fighters, publicly certainly

1605
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 5: my broadcast Partner Daniel. Cormier and part of the REASON

1606
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 5: i wanted to have you on today is because in my,

1607
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 5: opinion and Whether kenny agrees with this or, NOT i don't.

1608
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 5: KNOW i believe your confidence is being miscategorized as. Disrespect

1609
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 5: so real, Quickly i'm gonna read through the cub swants

1610
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 5: in exchange and then give you a chance to uh

1611
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 5: to sound. Off SO i thought you wrote something that

1612
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 5: was just a confidence statement about your ability not gonna.

1613
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 5: Lie me AND gsp fought at the same age, Thirty

1614
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 5: i'd knock out the goat to be, honest and then

1615
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 5: Cub swanson, interjected better men have tried and couldn't do,

1616
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 5: it to which you, responded get your ass on a winning, streak,

1617
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 5: first cub talking about better, man and you were doing

1618
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 5: this in fun with laughing. Emojis, Whatever Cub, Road i'll

1619
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 5: work on, that, Homie go ahead and keep Chasing. Clout

1620
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 5: just don't disrespect the legends of the. Sport you haven't

1621
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 5: done enough. Yet DISRESPECT. Naci you never once been on my,

1622
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 5: page and you talking. Nonsense fighters, fight and for, ME

1623
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 5: gsp is the. Goat but in my humble, opinion i'd

1624
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 5: KNOCK gsp out at this stage of my, game just my.

1625
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 5: Opinion ho and you guys got into it from, there

1626
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 5: SO i wanted to give you a chance on a

1627
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 5: platform to talk about. THAT i didn't take any issue

1628
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 5: with really what you, said but it does seem like

1629
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 5: some fighters out, there you, know feel like you're DISRESPECTING.

1630
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 5: GSP i took it as. Confidence what are your thoughts

1631
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 5: on all?

1632
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 3: That? Uh, well like like you, said, man it's just

1633
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 3: a confident. Thing.

1634
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 10: Right my thing Is George Saint pierre is the one

1635
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 10: that got me into this whole, sport right the way

1636
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 10: that he was not just a fire but he was

1637
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 10: a martial artist and he, studied you, know each and

1638
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 10: every part of the element because guess what people call,

1639
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 10: him you, know one of the best, grapples but he

1640
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 10: started with, karate right with point. Fighting so with the

1641
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 10: transition Of George Saint pierre and in his, CAREER i

1642
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 10: definitely have, to you, know buy my head and be,

1643
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 10: like you, know thankful right of How George Saint pierre

1644
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 10: carried out his, career because that was my influence to

1645
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 10: do What i'm doing. Today but regardless of that, FACT

1646
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 10: i truly believe that if me And George Saint pierre

1647
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 10: was to fight at the same, time around the same,

1648
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 10: AGE i would beat this, man, right having that same

1649
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 10: mental fortit, two having that same you know discipline right

1650
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 10: when it comes to training different arts and being.

1651
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 3: Able to be able to do reps over and over

1652
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 3: again non.

1653
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 10: STOP i just believed that my gifts and my talents

1654
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 10: and my skill set in my mindset would pretty much

1655
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 10: crumple gsp right and with.

1656
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 3: Going on Just Cubs.

1657
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 10: SWANSEA i find it funny how you talk about you

1658
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 10: gotta at the, legends, right and the one thing that

1659
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 10: he was talking, About i've been here longer than, you,

1660
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 10: right so you gotta respect, Me, nah it ain't how that.

1661
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: Work you ain't done shit in the.

1662
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 10: Sport never, happy, Right my man been in the sports

1663
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 10: for about fifteen years and has not accomplished anything in his.

1664
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 10: Life my biggest thing, is, right is that how you

1665
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 10: fighting with the promotion for so long and you ain't

1666
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 10: even get close to touching the.

1667
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 3: Belt you ain't barely been in the.

1668
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 10: Rankings and he would he, look, look this is the

1669
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 10: only thing that he would probably say he, accomplished, right

1670
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 10: him Beating charles all the very ten years.

1671
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 3: Ago that ain't no, accomplishment.

1672
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 10: Man but he the type of individual that would take

1673
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 10: that and run with it all motherfucking.

1674
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 3: Day and, yeah you could, say, oh, well he in

1675
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 3: The hall Of.

1676
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 10: Fame for His fight of The year with you, Know Dho, Troy,

1677
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 10: Right but the thing, was, though that was a trash

1678
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 10: ass fight between both trash ass. Fighters i'm gonna just

1679
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 10: keep it a. Buck you watched that. Fight you watched that,

1680
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 10: fight and you realize WHAT i shouldn't be, doing, right,

1681
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 10: right that's just a hundred. Right SO i just find

1682
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 10: it funny coming from a guy Named Cubs swanson who

1683
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 10: ain't done shit in their career talking about respect and

1684
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 10: better man because he ain't one of them and ain't

1685
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 10: getting on your, BOY. Dc you, know he definitely is a.

1686
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 10: Legend he definitely is a. Goal he definitely go to

1687
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 10: with the you know What i'm, saying double champ. Status

1688
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 10: but WHAT i have an issue is that why you're attacking.

1689
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 6: Me.

1690
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 10: Bro you a fighter that for the longest time has

1691
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 10: been trying to build your career up to where it is,

1692
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 10: now and you see another fighter trying to do the same,

1693
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 10: thing and instead of trying to put light on, it

1694
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,560
Speaker 10: you're trying to dem it, right and you're trying to

1695
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 10: cast his shade over it and trying to stop my.

1696
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 3: Momentum because that's not one fighter THAT i believe THAT

1697
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 3: dc puts on for. It that's another. Brother and people

1698
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 3: are all don't put no race into, it.

1699
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 10: Man fuck y'all to be be putting on For islam our,

1700
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 10: career be putting on for the other tall dude that

1701
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 10: got into THE.

1702
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 3: Ufc but it's Also. Brasian it's just a pride thing

1703
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 3: you put.

1704
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: On for your.

1705
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 3: Folks that's. It there's nothing wrong with.

1706
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 10: It BUT dc hasn't put on one brother in THE,

1707
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 10: ufc but he put on For islam he put on

1708
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 10: for A, bee he put on For Max, holloway Justin

1709
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 10: Gageye Alex perera talking About Alex perera could have been

1710
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,560
Speaker 10: a world champion wrestler if he starts fighting out just, lying.

1711
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 4: Just saying, shit just saying.

1712
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 7: Shit but you see how you.

1713
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 3: Put the light on. Them why CAN'T dc do the

1714
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 3: same thing for?

1715
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 10: Me he could have went a whole different way about

1716
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 10: you know what he said about my whole call, out

1717
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 10: which is. Cool you can call it the worst call

1718
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 10: out if that's the, case but you can also incline,

1719
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 10: that Damn but why Can buffy will put some work

1720
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 10: on common?

1721
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 4: Right?

1722
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 3: It kind of ever did give him a. Chance bucky

1723
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 3: could knock that man, out BUT dc didn't go that.

1724
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 3: ROUTE dc went.

1725
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 10: Another route talking about A buffley was talking About connor's

1726
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 10: mother and, grandmother his niece and his aunties called him

1727
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 10: holes and. Shit you KNOW i ain't say, THAT dc

1728
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 10: and then go back on axe and call me a

1729
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 10: pussy and all this other WHEN i, know damn, well

1730
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 10: WHEN i SEE, dc hes not gonna keep that same

1731
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 10: type of. Energy he not because it's gonna be under that, job,

1732
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 10: shit under that. Title when he got to keep a

1733
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 10: profession WHEN i could just.

1734
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 3: Keep it as a.

1735
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 5: FIGHTER i remember talking about your aunt and your mom

1736
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 5: and like our first fighter, meeting you, know and all

1737
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 5: the women in your. Life AND i do believe in

1738
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 5: a broad sense that people have been trying to cut

1739
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 5: you down a little, bit you, know despite your. Success

1740
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 5: So i'm glad that you were able to sound off here.

1741
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 5: Today and you, KNOW i believe a lot of this

1742
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 5: really just comes down to conviction and, confidence And i'm

1743
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 5: really happy for your. Success you found the right. Division

1744
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 5: we congratulate you At New manson ninety.

1745
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 4: Four my.

1746
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 5: Man, Seriously i'm really excited to see this next. LEVEL

1747
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 5: i know it's probably not gonna Be Gilbert, burns but go, ahead, yes.

1748
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 3: Sir but before you get me off, HERE i want

1749
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 3: to say this off right.

1750
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,560
Speaker 10: Now SO dc is supposed to be out there In

1751
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 10: vegas right for The ton McGregor for, yes.

1752
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 3: Sir he said he wanted to see out, There SO,

1753
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 3: dc BECAUSE i.

1754
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 10: Know he probably gonna be watching the, show or you're

1755
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 10: gonna send this link to, him right, RIGHT, Dc if

1756
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 10: you really want, to you, know stand on business About

1757
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 10: audrey his. Mama you can see me at THE, pi,

1758
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 10: man we can get some work in BECAUSE i always

1759
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 10: wanted to get some work in with the double Cham

1760
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 10: and we can wint it live and we can run it.

1761
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 3: Live it'll be a beautiful situation.

1762
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 5: And we can speed on that and roll cameras everything.

1763
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 5: Else Joaquem buckley And Daniel. Cormier but my, man hope

1764
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 5: you can enjoy some of the fruits and, uh that

1765
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 5: was really special for us even as viewers to watch

1766
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 5: everything In Saint. Louis congrats on the. Dub obviously there's

1767
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 5: gonna be a big name showing up in your, bracket

1768
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 5: whether it's the winner OF mvp and he and, Michaddeo,

1769
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 5: gary whatever it. Is sou get some rest and uh

1770
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 5: we'll see you back on the grind.

1771
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 3: Man all, right, man see you out, there, Bro thank you.

1772
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 5: Brother there he Is Joaqum, buckley New mansa joining us

1773
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 5: here on The anak And florian. Podcast And, KENNY i

1774
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 5: know some people maybe would take issue with some of

1775
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 5: the things that he. Said AND i know you have

1776
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,839
Speaker 5: maybe looked at his strength of schedule and thought perhaps

1777
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 5: it's a little bit boastful to, suggest based upon your

1778
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 5: wins list that you could Beat George Saint. Pierre BUT

1779
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 5: i don't. KNOW i just kind of feel, like you,

1780
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 5: KNOW i don't know if other people are chasing cloud

1781
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:12,919
Speaker 5: or what it. IS i feel, like, Well Kem buckley's

1782
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 5: just being a confident. Fighter you, know obviously he's not

1783
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 5: afraid to verbally articulate. HIMSELF i don't really take much

1784
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 5: issue with anything that he's had to, say but other

1785
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 5: people obviously.

1786
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 6: Do Now, LISTEN i think that he's taken advantage of

1787
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 6: HIS mic time IS tv. TIME i think that if

1788
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 6: you're going to be surprised that people are going to

1789
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 6: be critical about what you, say even if like let's

1790
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 6: say he beat like the top five guys in the,

1791
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 6: division there's always going to be someone out, there either

1792
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 6: a professional analyst or a fan or what have, you

1793
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 6: that's going to criticize. You, Right so there's definitely. That,

1794
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 6: HOWEVER i would say there's maybe a certain time of

1795
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 6: when to say certain, things and you kind of want

1796
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 6: to time it well so that it gives you the

1797
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 6: right momentum and then it doesn't kind of take away

1798
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 6: from what you're. Doing, Right because IF i went out

1799
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 6: there in my first fight against Say Alex Caro, alexis

1800
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 6: And i'm, like give me The CHAMP i WANT.

1801
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 4: Gsp people would just laugh at. Me, yeah probably.

1802
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 6: Rightfully so it's, Like, bro you'd Beat Alex Caro, alexis

1803
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 6: you have one fight and you'll see slow down as

1804
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 6: opposed to maybe later Where i'm like i want to

1805
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 6: fight The master B. Jay Then i'm being on a

1806
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 6: six Fight. Wintreek it's, Like, okay that makes a little

1807
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 6: bit more. Sense so, yeah there's a time and place

1808
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 6: to do it and say certain. Things and but, yeah either,

1809
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 6: way Wa King buckley and what he's, saying it's. Good

1810
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,759
Speaker 6: you're marketing. Yourself that's what you. Want you want people

1811
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 6: talking about. Yourself and now it's on him to just

1812
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 6: keep it, consistent keep fighting those top guys and doing his.

1813
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 5: Thing his call out Of conor McGregor was roundly, criticized

1814
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 5: and perhaps rightfully. So we didn't lead the conversation on

1815
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 5: our podcast about the call. Out we talked about the performance,

1816
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 5: first AND i don't know if it was the worst

1817
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 5: call IN ufc. History it's certainly led to some sort

1818
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 5: of traction For Joaquin. Buckley would he have been better

1819
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 5: served to call Out Gilbert burns on a hot mic

1820
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 5: to try to lay the foundation for that fight, sure

1821
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 5: BUT i don't. Know you, KNOW i just have a

1822
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 5: lot of respect for a lot of these, fighters and

1823
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 5: they all have different. Personalities BUT i Think Joaquin buckley's

1824
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 5: doing a lot of things, right AND i do think

1825
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 5: in terms of his body of, work you, know he

1826
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 5: deserves a little bit more, CREDIT i guess from his.

1827
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 5: Contemporaries but we got to get on out of. Here

1828
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 5: we got another episode coming up actually in about forty eight.

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1836
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1840
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1841
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 5: thank you all for watching. Live another new episode beckons

1842
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 5: in about forty eight. Hours until, then be, well be,

1843
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 5: safe you'll fucking.

1844
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 2: Later he's gone.

1845
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 3: Bread he like to mix in the phones like but

1846
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 3: you's in a. Row he's, Alive he's a soul Tuer.

1847
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 3: Bread he's gone.

1848
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 9: Bread