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Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for

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Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving

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Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to

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Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five six and now

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Speaker 1: once again, rominating the Car Doctor here at zero nine

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Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Here talking to you about your automotive problems,

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Speaker 1: whatever you've got going on, fender defender and door to door.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot going on this hour as well

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Speaker 1: as always, and we're gonna get right back into it.

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Speaker 1: We've got Rick from Pittsburgh on the line. He's a

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Speaker 1: hold over from the last hour and we're gonna continue

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Speaker 1: our conversation about his oh four buick and the loud

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Speaker 1: I thank you for waiting, Thanks for hanging around. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, my concern is that using the internet to

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Speaker 1: is going to become part of this process because you're right.

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Speaker 1: It could be a flywheel, it could be a timing chain,

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Speaker 1: you know, a train mechanics here, which we can have

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Speaker 1: the conversation about finding a train mechanic. That's a whole

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Speaker 1: um wouldn't wouldn't be you know, a bad idea. Now

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Speaker 1: completely impossible either. Now, has have you done anything to

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Speaker 1: and I am so appreciative, and I hope these guys

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Speaker 1: You take good care. Um, Yeah, noises. Noises can be

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Speaker 1: that baby, I said, that guy want to go to

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Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away back doctor. Let's uh,

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Speaker 1: How many of six caravans are going to be left

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Speaker 1: it's not as dirty as it once was and there's

426
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Speaker 1: no more grit and contaminant. Uh, you know, so changing

427
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: the filter if it's possible, or changing the pump to

428
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: change the filter. Although I've heard stories about where there

429
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: are filters by themselves on certain fuel pumps that can

430
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: be replaced. But I can't imagine pulling a tank down,

431
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: taking a pump out, change the filter, and put the

432
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: ten year old pump back in. That one makes no

433
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: sense to me either, So I agree. I agree with

434
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Speaker 1: you on that because I what I read on the

435
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: research was that you can purchase a fuel pump regulator

436
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: assembly without a new fuel level sending unit, but you

437
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 1: also can buy one with the sending unit. My thought is,

438
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: if I was gonna do this, just replace all that

439
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: stuff where you got the tank out anyway, the tanks out,

440
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: get it over with and and and just what I thought. So, um,

441
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, so I think it makes sense, you know

442
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: about about getting a part where you can still get

443
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Speaker 1: a quality partner with. My other question for you is

444
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: where would you go with them to get a part?

445
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: And it sounds like you know you're not gonna go

446
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: ahead and just get a cheap part and put it

447
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: in there. You're gonna you might also get the highest

448
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: quality you can. Um, so you have the longest longevity

449
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: on it. Listen. One of the things I'm known for

450
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: around town, my reputation as a shop is people say

451
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: he's not cheap, but they also say it's fixed right

452
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: the first time, and it lasts, And then most people

453
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: will sit there and say, yeah, well, so I guess what.

454
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: It's not that he's not cheap. It's just that everybody

455
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: else is used to buying cheap parts. And and that's

456
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: the difference, and and and and you know, the quality

457
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: of the part the vehicle is only as good as

458
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: the sum of the parts. And at the sum of

459
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: the parts isn't that great. Guess what, It's not worth anything. So,

460
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, cheap parts just don't make any sense, not

461
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: in this day and age. It's got to be fixed

462
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: right the first time with the best parts you can get,

463
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: because you want to go the distance. Because, as you say,

464
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: to drop the tank a second time and do a

465
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: fuel pump over it's too expensive. Number one. Number two

466
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: disables you put you on the side of the road,

467
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: which is why you did the fuel pump in the

468
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: first place. So just just just food for thought. Consider

469
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: the starter, consider the alternator, and I'll leave you with

470
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: this thought. At a hundred thousand miles, think about carbon

471
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: deposits in the engine, and just I just want to mention,

472
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: hopefully you're doing some kind of carbon prevention program using

473
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Speaker 1: some type of an additive and just you know, something

474
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: on a regular basis to help cut down on carbon

475
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Speaker 1: deposits and give you that longevity. And it sounds like

476
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: you're doing it right. I just want to add that

477
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: to the pot as well, all right, kid, Uh yeah,

478
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: and I've been adding I've been adding treatment to to

479
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: the tank. I'm going to keep keep that up. And uh,

480
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Speaker 1: and I appreciate it that. That's great advice you gave me. Wrong,

481
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Speaker 1: that's why I listen. You're you're right on target. I

482
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Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you, Keith. I appreciate you being there

483
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: all these years. And uh, we look forward to the

484
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Speaker 1: Car Doctor and for a long time to come. Eight

485
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Speaker 1: five five zero nine zero zero, Ron eating the Car

486
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Speaker 1: Doctor coming back right after this? Welcome back? Why don't

487
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Speaker 1: the end of the Car Doctor rolling along at eight

488
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Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Let's get over and talk to

489
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Speaker 1: Nora online to up there? In is that new Portland?

490
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Speaker 1: Do I have that right? Welcome to the Car Doctor?

491
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: How can I help hi? Ron? Thanks for taking that call. Um.

492
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: My son has a two thousand and eight board escape

493
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: and it has a lot of miles on a hundred

494
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: seventy thousand, but in the last year, the throttle cable

495
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: has broken three times, and the first time he had

496
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: a mechanic fix it, and then the last two times

497
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 1: he fixed it himself. The question seems have happened when

498
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: he takes off from a stop. When they fix it, Nora,

499
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: are they replacing the whole cable? Are they changing the

500
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Speaker 1: pedal assembly or are they just reattaching it? They're changing

501
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: the whole cable. Okay, there's a there's a service kit

502
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: available from Ford. There's a bulletin. Are you aware of

503
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: the bulletin? Okay, there's a technical bulletin from Ford. Do

504
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: you have a pencil, Yeah, pencil, I'm sorry, bulletin number

505
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: oh nine dash one dash nine O nine dish nine nine.

506
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: And what they if you get at your hands on

507
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: the bulletin, you'll see what they've done is they've come

508
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: out with a new type of retainer. It's probably you're

509
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: probably gonna tell me that it's breaking the cable or

510
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: disconnecting from the pedal assembly down at the pedal inside

511
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: the car. Do you know if that's correct. It keeps

512
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: it's still connected to the pedal, but it's breaking a

513
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: couple inches from the paddle right and he said he

514
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: did get the newer kind of cable that had the

515
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: plastic um that had some plastic assembly on it. Then

516
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if he's got a problem with the pedal

517
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: assembly itself and the angle that it's constantly pulling on

518
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: the cable the wrong way, because there was also this

519
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: this bulletin talks about a clip to go to the

520
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: pedal assembly that helps maintain cable integrity. So I'm wondering

521
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: if this is still part of his problem that he

522
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: needs the whole assembly and the clip. Yeah. I mean,

523
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, we're kind of guessing here because we don't

524
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: know exactly what's been changed or whether it was newer

525
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: parts or old parts. And just because the other side

526
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: of this is just because you will hearts put in

527
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: in the last you know he's gotten the last two

528
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: from the Ford dealership. Okay, Um, Well, what I was

529
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna say was just because they get it from the

530
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: Ford dealer doesn't always mean it's the latest, greatest. Usually

531
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: it does. But you know, again, if we're going to

532
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: research a problem, we want to make sure, Hey, did

533
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: they put the correct part number in as per the

534
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: bulletin or they just selling out old stock? Not realizing

535
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: there's an updated piece to this. All right, And my

536
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: point is, you know, just because I know there's a

537
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: bulletin for this, let me say it like this. Throttle

538
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: cables breaking on these cars isn't common? Throttle cables breaking

539
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: on these cars after the cable replacement is even less

540
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: so is less common. So there's there's there's a piece

541
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: to the puzzle we're missing, right, So so I'm thinking

542
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: because it's snapped, it's it's it's either the angle in

543
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: relation to the gas pedal to the throttle pedal itself,

544
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: or it's something to do with installation, or it's incorrect parts.

545
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: It's it's it's got to be something clear cut. So

546
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: we either need more information. You gotta go look at

547
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: the bulletin, or you gotta verify what parts were put

548
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: in the vehicle. It's not more complicated than that. All right,

549
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: all right, you're welcome. You gotta look at that bulletin.

550
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: We'll go from there. If you need me, I'm here, Nora,

551
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: let me know what happens. Okay, thank you, you're very welcome.

552
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: Um let's pull over and take a plause eight five

553
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Speaker 1: five five zero nine nine zero zero. I'm back right

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Speaker 1: after this, Hey, welcome back on any of the card

555
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Speaker 1: ocerate five five five zero nine nine zero zero. I

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Speaker 1: should point out that the eight five five five six

557
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Speaker 1: You can call that number and leave a message and

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Speaker 1: out about that today because the phones have been so

564
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: busy and backed up when we're sorry for that. But

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00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,120
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00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: message and our producer will call you back and get

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Speaker 1: you in the lineup for the next live show. Let's

570
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Speaker 1: get over and talk to Peters up Enables. Peter up

571
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: Enables Main OH one GMC series Diesel. Yes, Peter, how

572
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: can I help you? Welcome? What's going on my truck?

573
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: Um In January, I filled up with the all and

574
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: I got about six miles up the road and it

575
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: started to die out, and I my son came up

576
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: and changed the fuel filter. It was not the fuel filter.

577
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: I had it towed to a diesel service center. Um,

578
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: they had taken out, drained the tank, um, and then

579
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: the pick up in the fuel tank, it had a

580
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: lot of sentiment on it. And they cleaned all that

581
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: out and put the fuel backed in and I still

582
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: had a problem for over a month and a half.

583
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: What water they put the fuel back in that they

584
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: took out? Yes? Why would they do that? That's that's

585
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: the question I have. I mean if if the problem

586
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: started after you fueled up and they went through the

587
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: paint of pulling the tank out, and I mean, that's

588
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: that's insane. Um, you know it's it's it's you took

589
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: the problem out, cleaned the tank, solve the problem, and

590
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: put the problem right back in by putting the fuel

591
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: back in. If it was fuel related, I wasn't there,

592
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: but from the sounds of it, it it sure would make sense. Uh.

593
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: You know that this is related to the fuel that

594
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: was put in the tank? Correct? And I think the

595
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: problem is still ongoing that it housed them and they

596
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: when they cleaned the scring and took a lot of

597
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: products there, and the problem persisted for over a months

598
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: and finally it cleared itself out and I brought it

599
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: to another UM service center. Then they could not sign

600
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: the problem because above freezing temperature it worked, Okay, it

601
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: worked fine, man sign and when it got the little

602
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: freezing it would die out again. Well, actually it came

603
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 1: out of that problem as I put new fuel in it.

604
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: And then then an injective went on that and I

605
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: don't know if that was because of UM something in

606
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: the fuel, but they couldn't find any any sentiment at

607
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: that point. But now I'm I like to go camping

608
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: a lot, and now I don't trust my vehicle and

609
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if another injector is going to go. Well,

610
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: let's let's let's back up. Let's start here. There's more

611
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: that can go wrong with diesel fuel. There's probably more

612
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: they can go wrong with diesel fuel than I have

613
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: the time left in this hour to talk about. UM.

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00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: It's it's not just water in the fuel. It's it's

615
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: paraffin content. It's what you know. Few diesel fuel will

616
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: wax below a certain temperature and actually restrict and act

617
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: like it's frozen, but it's it's actually the wax content

618
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: is too high. UM. So we have to worry about

619
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: waxing and diesel fuel. You know that's number one. What

620
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: I would probably tell you, what I would tell you

621
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Speaker 1: to do, not probably what I would tell you to do,

622
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: is I would start thinking about either overhauling the fuel system,

623
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: as painful and expensive as that's going to be, and

624
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: that's starting with a tank flush and then having the

625
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: injectors tested and flushed and replaced as needed. All Right,

626
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm not to randomly just start replacing injectors, but you

627
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: know they can be flow tested. It's a diesel. This

628
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: is a science, and you know, repair, replace as needed,

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Speaker 1: and then starting off with a fresh tank of fuel.

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00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: You know, diesels are funny critters. It only takes one

631
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: tank and you've got problems that will dog you for

632
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: the longest time and sometimes you never get rid of them.

633
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: So you've got to kind of bring it back to square,

634
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying. So as expensive as

635
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: that might be, now you can try the less expensive route.

636
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: Do do this, Peter, do you have an O'Reilly Do

637
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: you you don't have an O'reillyota parts up by you

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Speaker 1: just like that, What do they have see if there's

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Speaker 1: something you know, listen, I'm not one for band aids

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Speaker 1: in a broken leg. If you're a regular listener, you

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Speaker 1: know I don't believe in miracle in a can. Every

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Speaker 1: once in a while, something comes along that does work,

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Speaker 1: can share it with the rest of the listenership. But

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Speaker 1: Good luck to you, sir. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 1: See you