1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Oh good time by Steve Tasper touch Down, touch Down, 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: tex Down time. Welcome one Bills Live Steve Task along 3 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: with our buddy Thad Brown. Thad, thanks for coming in 4 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: from w r OCTV and Rochester Sports Director. Thanks for 5 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: coming over. You've been doing the sideline thing for me 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: and on TV, just trying to follow you your quality. Example. 7 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: There you go. Murph is out for the rest of 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: the week. Thad's gonna be in here for today. We're 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Buffalo Bills and all the stuff 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: that's going on. We got a Twitter poll, we got 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: uh Matthew Chatham is coming on, who wrote an interesting 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: article that about the AFC East and quarterbacks and how 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: they sit with Tom Brady being the old man and 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 1: everybody else being second year guys. A lot of fun 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: stuff going on. We've got the NBA Draft is tonight. 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: We could chit chat about a little bit. First of all, 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: how was traffic coming over from Rochester? Not bad? It 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: was raining pretty bad in Rochester. I was surprised actually 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: how dry it is in Buffalo on the drive down 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Rochester is Buffalo relatively relatively. Let me tell you, I know, 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: you're a rainstorm to get here today. Well, you most 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: must have drove in much earlier than I do, because 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: them's drive by the time it was raining that bad. 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm not I would. I would say I'm an early riser, 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: but I might get struck by the light. I mean, 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: we have this deal in Rochester, where Lake Ontario is 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: as high as it's ever been, and where I live. 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: I live close to the Bay Ronda Quai Bay, and 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: I drive by a drive by a low spot every day. Yeah, yeah, 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: north north east part of the city. I know what 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: you mean. There's a little road that goes across yet yeah, 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: and so you drive over the bay and I drive 33 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: it every day going to work on wherever. And the 34 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: bay now has gotten to the point where it's almost 35 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: onto the road. And I can't ever remember being being 36 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: this high. Two years ago. It was pretty bad. And 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: we can get this would be a political show. This 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: is the the i JC twenty fourteen commission about raising 39 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: lake levels. But this is you know, the rain not 40 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: stopping this spring some purpose. Well again, I don't know 41 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: if we want to get into it. I know it, 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: I haven't followed it. I don't have a take on it. 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that when I drive down this 44 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: road every day. I check to see how high the 45 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: water is, how close it is to the road. You 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: go round? Yeah, I do have another way I go. 47 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: It's higher, there's a bigger bridge, but this is the 48 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: more convenient way. And you know, because of the news, 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: the newsy Port part of it, I find it fascinating 50 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: to see, well, where's the water today and today it 51 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: was pouring, and um, I assume this is gonna make 52 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: the water even you know, that much higher going. It's 53 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: shockingly how it goes. Yeah, my fluid dynamics course in 54 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: college tells me that did you know there was a 55 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: fluid dynamics course. I'm surprised you took it. Frankly, I didn't. 56 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm lying, okay, But yeah, but they that's the thing 57 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: you talk about all the residents and there's people here 58 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, you know, the Niagara water, the Niagara uh River, 59 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: they're you know, they got the houses that are getting 60 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: damage and there's they just you know how homeowners are 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: on I'm one of them. They're doing it on purpose. 62 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: You know. There's well people feel like in Rochester too, 63 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: the homeowners on the on the coastline, they feel like 64 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: that they are. I don't know if they. They probably 65 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: feel like they're doing it on purpose, but at the 66 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: very least, they feel like that their interests are not 67 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: being respected in the way the lake level is being monitored. 68 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: And the thing that we're doing in local news almost 69 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: every day now is showing video of erosion. There are 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: trees that are falling off coastlines. There are you know, 71 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: coastlines that are this different. And when you're talking about 72 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, uh, groups of mounds of dirt that are 73 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: five ten feet high. You take this much off a coastline, 74 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: that's a big bleeping deal. Well yeah, plus, yeah, pretty 75 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: soon you're gonna have houses sliding in. Yeah, that's the concern. 76 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, you know, that's that's a worst 77 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: worst case scenario. But it's it's more than that. You've 78 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: got There are people who live in particular streets. One 79 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: that you know, Brian Giantha, who was just in the studio, 80 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: knows and lives and his family there. Who are you know, 81 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 1: basements underwater pumping water out on a regular basis. And 82 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, again you just reminded the rain has been 83 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: weird this year. It's just not stopping. Well, Okay, so 84 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: if there's a good reason for it. I get it. 85 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean, let's hear it. The good reasons for it 86 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: is all right. Number one, it's allegedly to help wildlife, 87 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: natural wildlife. Remember, the lake isn't just Rochester Buffalo, it's 88 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: also Toronto Hamilton, Ontario. It borders both sides, so somewhere 89 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: in that whole realm there is wildlife or natural habitats 90 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: they're trying to protect. In addition, apparently it helps shipping, 91 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, having all the things come down to state 92 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: lawrence right, exactly right. So I don't know exactly how 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: much or the details of all that, but that is 94 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: the argument for what has happened to all these you know, homeowners, 95 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: shipping and wildlife primarily. Yeah, and again, the other part 96 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: of it, too, is is if you take water away 97 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: from the southern the Rochester Buffalo half of it, then 98 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: it's got to go somewhere else. Now it's gonna go 99 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: to the northern border. And then those homeowners allegedly theoretically 100 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: problem couldn't they if they're gonna do this, couldn't they 101 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: just give you, like hey, in a decade. It's going 102 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: to happen, period, whether you like it or not fix 103 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: your homes up. Now you got ten years to do it. 104 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: It's happening, thank you very much. Get it done, and 105 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: then we're not going to apologize for it and then 106 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: do it. It would have made more sense to do 107 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: it that way. The way it worked out. It's called 108 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen commission because that's when the fourteen we're 109 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 1: in the fifth year, right, Well, that's when the rule 110 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: was decided that this commission would have more control. And 111 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm almost a layperson version of this of water levels, 112 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: the actual having that power making that happen. I don't 113 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: think we went into effect that like twenty sixteen. So 114 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: then the next spring, twenty seventeen, we had a huge 115 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: wet spring in Rochester. I'm seeing Buffalo two. So you 116 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: had not ten years, you might have had ten months 117 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: to prepare for the possible effects of this. Nature is 118 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: a part of this too. I mean it's been crazy 119 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 1: wet this spring and two springs ago. Rog Yeah, exactly, 120 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: Steve task on with that Brown. We're on one bills live. 121 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: We're talking just getting things started here on a busy 122 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: day for us, not so much in the NFL's kind 123 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: of the downtime, right and they kind of turned the 124 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: lights out and everybody goes to everything and goes to 125 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: the beach. Yeah, cluding John Murphy exactly. And good for 126 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: him too, by the way. But we've also have we're 127 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna have a Twitter We have a Twitter poll, and 128 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: I have a hard time find it because I'm sitting 129 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: in the in the adult chair today and Murph is 130 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: not here. So the Twitter poll is this? It is, 131 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: and we gonna have to wait for it. We gotta 132 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: put it up on the screen so I can read it. 133 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: Got Twitter poll? Okay, here it is which of the 134 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills player will make their first Pro Bowl in 135 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Right now, sixty one percent of the respondents 136 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: say sixty sixty one percent say Tredevious White, fifteen percent 137 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: to say Tremaine Edmonds, thirteen percent say Josh Allen, and 138 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: only eleven percent say Jerry Hughes. I will say this 139 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: about the entire list, Jerry Hughes, Turdevious White, Josh Allen, 140 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds. And of course, if you want, you can 141 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: tweet at us or or call in and have your 142 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: own name. He could be anybody else on the roster 143 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: as well. Jerry Hughes was probably the most highly regarded 144 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: on that list last year. Defensively for the Bills. He 145 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: was more highly regarded as a pass rusher than Turdevious 146 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: was as a corner, and Turdevious, you know, still playing 147 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: extremely high at extremely high level. Jerry Hughes was like 148 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: number two overall in the entire league and edge rushing 149 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: last year. He was consistently getting pressure. He didn't get 150 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: a huge number of sacks, but he was forcing a 151 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,119 Speaker 1: lot of throws on a very good defense. So Jerry 152 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: Hughes probably has as good a chance of being recognized 153 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: for that as anybody on that list. I think those 154 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: lists they come down to stats. You know, defensive ends 155 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: need to have sacks, defensive backs need to have interceptions, 156 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: and you know, Jerry Hughes, you're right, his film was 157 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: fantastic last year. He was constantly in the backfield. He 158 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: just wasn't getting home as much as you'd think. It's 159 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: almost like a batter who you know, you look at 160 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: batting average on balls in play, sometimes you just hit 161 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: balls right at guys and even if you're hitting the 162 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: ball well, you're not getting base hits. And by a 163 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: similar way, Jerry Hughes was getting to the backfield, he 164 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: was getting pressure. He played. His run defense in the 165 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: last two or three years has gone from passable. Will 166 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: live with it because he's a great pass rusher too, 167 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: He's got to be one of the best in the league. 168 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: And playing the edge, setting the edge, you know, causing 169 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: problems against the run. But those aren't stats, Those aren't 170 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: things that get you noticed from a Pro Bowl point 171 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: of view. I think this year with that Oliver, you know, 172 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: you might see more concentration when it comes to other 173 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: teams pass protecting in the middle, which could open up 174 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: things to the outside. Right, So we're talking about that, 175 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: which one of the Buffalo Bills players is gonna make 176 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: his first Pro Bowl this year. We're also going to 177 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: have Matt Chatham on the program, and he is, uh, 178 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: he's kind of all over the map a little bit. 179 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: He's a huge, huge Boston Bruins fan. He also wrote 180 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: an article, so he's all over the uh. The Saint 181 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: Louis Blues win over the Bruins in the Stanley Cup Finals. 182 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: He wrote an article about Josh Allen, Sam Darnold, Josh 183 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: Rosen and of course and them sitting in the same 184 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: division with Tom Brady in the AFC East. He also has, uh, 185 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, to ask him the question about whether the 186 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: Bills are ready to compete in the AFC East. The 187 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: Patriots super Bowl window. He doesn't think they're windows closing 188 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: anytime soon. He thinks it's wide open. Uh. If you 189 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: haven't seen Twitter or social media lately, Tom Brady is 190 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: now throwing the ball around in the off season with 191 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon, who is suspended indefinitely by the National Football League, 192 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: although he's a member of kind of technically a member 193 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: of the Patriots roster in Kiel harry As also was 194 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: also just taken by the Patriots in the first round. 195 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: Gronkowski's retired. All this Patriots stuff's going on, and Matt 196 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: Chatham was also if you don't remember, he was a 197 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: former Patriot player and he covered the Patriots rights for 198 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: the athletics. So that's one of one of the reasons 199 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: we're having him on the program today. We also got 200 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: some stuff to talk about the NBA Draft, We got 201 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: NFL true false. We're gonna have an also have a conversation. 202 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: You brought this up as a good one about the officiating. 203 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Murph and I go on and on about what the 204 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: officiating it, the state of officiating, the rule changes that 205 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: are always prevalent every offseason in the NFL, And you 206 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: brought this thing up about officiating kind of worldwide, let 207 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: alone the United States wide, and some of the kind 208 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: of the crisis the officiating industries. In Kevin's effort wrote 209 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: the article from ESPN tweeted it out yesterday. Now, I'll 210 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: tell you what, I actually disagree with some of the 211 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: points he's making, But the overall point of view is 212 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: that you go to any any high school game, any 213 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: youth game. There was video from ABC News yesterday about 214 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: a seven year old baseball game to descend it into 215 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: a brawl among parents and the whole experience. The atmosphere 216 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: around youth and scholastic sports, the tension level just continues 217 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: to rise. And you know, when it comes to officiating, 218 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: there are a lot of scholastic districts out there and 219 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: states that are having trouble keeping officials because guys just 220 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: don't want to go out and make forty bucks a 221 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: night to get yelled at by five and drove two 222 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: hours both ways exactly. Yeah. So, and the point of 223 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: this article, you know, is to look at one specific cause, 224 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: in this case video replay, and try and figure out 225 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: how much of a connection there is between the advanced 226 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: replay and every single sport that you know. Every seems 227 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: like every year some league is adding another level, adding 228 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: a layer, the NFL this year with passing interference, and 229 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: what kind of an effect that's having on the just 230 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: atmosphere of officiating and how we treat it, how we 231 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: respect it, or more often, how we don't respect. Certainly 232 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: those guys don't ever get it right. But here's the thing. 233 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: As soon as a bad call is made a automatically, 234 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: as a parent, you're thinking, man, that guy wants the 235 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 1: other team to win, or he's got something in from it. 236 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: It's all about you. And it's really not true. And 237 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: you talk about the seven year old baseball team. Nobody's 238 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: going to major leagues tomorrow. This is just one season. 239 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: It's one game in one season. It's one call in 240 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: one game. Come on, you gotta you gotta, you know, 241 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: you gotta learn to take a step back. And this, 242 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: this level of anxiety intension that parents have towards their 243 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: kids playing sports is out of control. And I've seen 244 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: it and I've you know, I've been as much a 245 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: victim of it, as I was one of those guys 246 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: that had a lot of emotion when I watched my 247 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: kids play, and I you know, you had to learn 248 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: to contemper it. I mean, I'm famous for getting thrown 249 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: out of my last game, right, so you know I've 250 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: got no you know, I've got right almost can't really 251 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: throw stones, right, Yeah, I can't throw stones in anybody. 252 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: But the simple fact of the matter is you got 253 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, parents who get wrapped up in it and 254 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: they think it's some how a reflection of their own 255 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: parenting if their kids not good at sports. It's it's 256 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: another and another level of this that comes out in 257 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: this article we'll get to later on, is everybody's got 258 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: cell phone, they start recording, you know. And that said, 259 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: there was an example that was brought up about how 260 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: a kid was suspended from a wrestling tournament in Wisconsin. 261 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: In Wisconsin because and you might have seen this story, 262 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: this has been out for a while, he committed a 263 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: violation and then committed a second One's kind of like 264 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: getting two technical files and ejected in this. Uh, you know, 265 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: state rules, if you get two of these violations, you're 266 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: suspended for the next match. Well, the next match was 267 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: the state final. So the kid took video that showed 268 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: that maybe his violation wasn't as bad as it was thought, 269 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: took it to court, not to the governing. Took it 270 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: the court, and a judge actually forced him back into 271 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: the championship. He won the state championship and actually stayed. 272 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: They stayed, They stayed the decision. Yeah, because whatever the 273 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: court founded the violation wasn't as bad because the yeah, 274 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: the violation was that if you violated and you get 275 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: thrown out of the match, you're also suspended for one match. 276 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: And the next match was the state final. He would 277 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: not have been able to defend. He was defending state titlists. Well, 278 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: he goes on wins the state chot title and and 279 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: now they're repealing everything, and now they're gonna strip if 280 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: a kid is found, which he probably will, they're going 281 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: to strip him with the state title. You know, we 282 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: could have a whole discussion on whether or not it's 283 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: crazy in sports governing right now, But the point of 284 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: the article is, does the advanced the advancements we've made 285 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: in video and especially using it to correct rules, to 286 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: correct incorrect calls in games, has it hurt more than 287 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: its health. And you know these are maybe not direct examples, 288 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: but you know, this is a situation where a kid 289 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: had a piece of cell phone video and is now 290 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: using it to overturn a call that you know, fifteen, 291 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: maybe even ten years ago would not even have been 292 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: a discussion because we don't have the technology for that, 293 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: right right, So we're talking about all this. We're gonna 294 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: get it more into this officiating later on in the show. 295 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: We also have the Twitter polls. If you haven't heard 296 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: which one of the Buffalo Bill which Buffalo Bill will 297 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: have their first Pro Bowl season? You can go online 298 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: check that out and vote for the one of your choice, 299 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: or pick one of your own, tweet at us or 300 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: calling and we'll talk to you about that. We also 301 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: have one thing Murph and I spent the entire day yesterday. 302 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: We had this, uh this Twitter poll about realignment and 303 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: one of the things that came to me and Murph 304 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: was kicking and screaming about it because you know, he didn't, 305 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, because it's not gonna happen. They're not going 306 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: to realign. But I thought, you know, what if what 307 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: if they did really love us and for what reasons? 308 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: Would they realign. My idea was that, particularly given the 309 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: fact that there's thirty two owners, you have to convince them. 310 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: And who's going to convince them, Well, who's I'll tell 311 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: you who's going to convince him? It would be TV. 312 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: And here are the here's the realignment as it would 313 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: happen in television if the TV people had their way. 314 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: This is how they would relign the league. And this 315 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: is one of the ideas you want to talk about 316 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: as well, because you I find it fascinating about who 317 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: you would play and who you wouldn't play. And what 318 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: it comes down to is the divisions would go one. 319 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: There's eight divisions. They would go one through eight. You 320 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: can call them whatever you want, East, West, North, South, AFC, NFC, whatever, 321 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: and you could align and do it however you wanted, 322 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: but it would be strictly by television market. The size 323 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: of it. The top the top division Division number one, 324 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: as if you will. I'm saying that I'm not ranking them, 325 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm just going down the list full top to body. 326 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: You could do them are in reverse orders, so well, 327 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: let's just do that. Well, so we won't get step 328 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: on e toes. We'll go Division number eight would be 329 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: the Jets and Giants in the same division with the 330 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Rams and Chargers, New York in LA, right, New York 331 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: in LA, and twice a year, the Giants would play 332 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: the Jets at home, and then the Jets would play 333 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: the Giants at home, so they would have a home 334 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: and home series in the same stadium. It would be 335 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: New York against New York. But it would also be 336 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: twice a year, four times a year. Actually it would 337 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: be Giants against the Chargers Rams at home and then 338 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: they would be on the road, and then vice versa 339 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: with the Jets. So you'd have those four teams LA 340 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: in New York would be playing each other as division 341 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: rivals six times eight times a year. You'd have eight 342 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: games in New York in LA, and you could pick 343 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: and choose which ones you wanted on primetime or anything 344 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: like that. From a TV point of view, this would 345 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: be like gold. I mean having these games the two 346 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: biggest markets, having them involved in eight games out of 347 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: the season. I mean this is no matter what the 348 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: records are. You know, you could play these games week 349 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: four and it would be among the top rated, most 350 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: interested games in the NFL. I think the thing that 351 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo fans would not like to hear, is that? And 352 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: you can use the NFC East as an example of 353 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: that because the current teams in the East right now, Philly, 354 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: the Giants, Washington, and Dallas are all pretty big markets. Well, 355 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: they're on Sunday Night football all the time. This division 356 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: would have a Sunday night football game every other Yeah, 357 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: they'd be in primetime a lot. And now here's another one. 358 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: Here's the next division if you're wondering what it would be. 359 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: So it would be the Jets, Giants, and the Rams, 360 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: Chargers in whatever division wanted, the Expensive Division and the 361 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: Expensive Division and the Supreme Division or whatever you let's 362 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: I like that. The yeah, the Premium Division, whatever you 363 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: want to call it is. It would be Chicago, Bears, Philly, Dallas, 364 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: and Washington. That's just like the NFC East now, except 365 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: without the Giants, right, Replacing with Chicago would be almost 366 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: the same thing. I'd feel the same, it would It 367 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: would feel so similar. Even then you could play this 368 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: division because the travel isn't that much out of whack. 369 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Chicago's like that far from other cities, right, 370 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: So that's the next one. It would be Bears, Eagles, Cowboys, 371 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: Washing and then the sixth division would be Houston, San 372 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: Francisco and um, well it would be I say, Oakland, 373 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco and Oakland and then but the Raiders are 374 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: out of there because they're moving to Vegas, which moves 375 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: them out of this. So you want to go to the 376 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty version of these markets. So we'll take 377 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: the Raiders about Houston, San Francisco, Boston and Atlanta. Right. Yeah, 378 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: so that's a pretty good division. And again, you know 379 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: I said right off the top there that you'd have 380 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: the New York LA Division on Sunday and football the time. 381 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: You may not because you've got all these other matchups, 382 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: these top three divisions. But again from a Buffalo point 383 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: of view, if you're not in you know, the Premium Division, 384 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: the Supreme Division or the Giant Extra Large Division, you're 385 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: not getting on primetime football and you're gonna be playing 386 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: Thursday night games forever, right, But these two teams, these 387 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: teams would be playing each other. Yeah, it'd be fast, 388 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: and they'd play out of conference divisions. They play out 389 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: of conference out of division games as well. These are 390 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: just the these are just the eight division games. But 391 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: you would have I mean, you would have a a 392 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: Chicago Philly or a Niners Patriots. You'd have something every 393 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: week that would be the primetime game. Okay, Then the 394 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: next division the Sea, so it's Houston, San Francisco, Boston, Atlanta. 395 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: Then the fifth division would be Tampa, Phoenix, Seattle and Detroit. 396 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: Tampa Phoenix, Seattle in Detroit. That's probably the one that's 397 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: the biggest mix up. From where do you do? You'd 398 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: have Tampa Bay playing Seattle from corner to corner of 399 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: the country, and Detroit in the top northeast, and of 400 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: course Arizona. That would be the four corners division pretty 401 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: much right. And you but you can notice now how 402 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: the market size would change. I mean, you go from 403 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, Boston, Houston or Atlanta, San Francisco to temporary Troit, 404 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: you know exactly, Arizona, Detroit. Seattle's an enormous city for sure, 405 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: but Phoenix has got Tempe, Scottsdale and all that. Right. 406 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: But well, and if you're playing the same mark, if 407 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: you're playing this long term, you know, if we're talking 408 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: fifteen years down the road, when John Schneider's gone, when 409 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's gone, Russell Wilson, Seattle is not a draw anymore. 410 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: So this this team becomes this almost becomes like the 411 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: first semi forgotten division, right, Okay, so then you got 412 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: that would that was the fifth of the fourth which 413 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: is I know this is impossible to follow if on 414 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: radio sum but here it is. The fourth division is Minneapolis, 415 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: the Vikings, the Dolphins, the Broncos and hold on it 416 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: would be Cleveland, yep, the Browns. So it'd be the Browns, Dolphins, Broncos, 417 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: and Vikings. I actually like this division better than the 418 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: previous one. Better than the Cardinals, Seahawks, Lions one you 419 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: have I mean Miami Denver? Could I mean that could 420 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: become a rival? Those are two teams that historically have 421 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: been pretty success full. And are you have big enough 422 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: fan bases that they could be attractive to a primetime 423 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: television you know situation. So I like this division bad 424 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: that this is the actually the fifth largest one. Yeah, 425 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: fifth largest one. Yeah, and it's pretty good. It's a 426 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: pretty good division as the next division would be the 427 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: Charlotte Panthers. Panthers, oh, this is actually a fun to 428 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: Pisburgh Steelers, Baltimore Ravens, and Tennessee type. Yes, that's kind 429 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: of an old time division. It's what funny that we 430 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: keep the Ravens and Steelers together. They cannot get away 431 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: from each other no matter what we do. And the 432 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: Titans are still in that in the back into the 433 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: division where they used to play the Ravens all the 434 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: time and Oiler days. So that's a pretty good division 435 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: with the Panthers, Steelers, Ravens and Titans. And then then 436 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: you've got Indianapolis Colts Chiefs. No, no no, no, yeah, Colts 437 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: chief Chiefs, Bengals since and then the Raiders last. Then no, 438 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: it would be right right, it could be or it 439 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: would be the Packers because they get the Milt Milwaukee 440 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: map market. We'd have to that would be a discussion. 441 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: That's a discussion. Do you get the Raiders into that 442 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: one or do you put the Raiders into the bottom one? 443 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: Um Colts Chiefs, Cincinnati, and then the next market is Milwaukee, 444 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: which I would claims the Packers. I know they do. 445 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: They don't play there anymore. They used to play. They don't. 446 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: They don't play. You're going to play County Stadium, you play? Yeah? 447 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: I played there. They had the sidelines were on the 448 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: same side of the field, the benches were on the 449 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: same side of the field. How unusual is that? I 450 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: mean very I mean there's still the same amount of 451 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: people that travel for the most part. Right, how do 452 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: you fit too? So here's the here's the question. Do 453 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: you put the Packers in that with the Bengals and 454 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: stuff with Milwaukee? If you do, then it's milk. It's 455 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: the Packers, Bengals, Chiefs and Colts. Let's do that, all right, 456 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: Let's do that Packers, Bengals, Chiefs and Colts. And the 457 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: final division, the number one division would be the Las 458 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, Jacksonville Jaguars, Buffalo Bills, Green Bay Packers. You 459 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: go to Northern team or no, it would be a Saint, 460 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: the Saints. We put the Packers in the Packers division, 461 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: the Saint New Orleans in Jacksonville in a division with 462 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo and the Raiders. From someone who covers the Bill 463 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: sixteen games a year, I love a trip to Las Vegas. Everything. 464 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: We'll think about New Orleans and see that that right, 465 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: that's we're all about it? Right? Yeah, where can we 466 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: make this happen? Here's the thing, and here's why this 467 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: is interesting. This is strictly for TV. Yeah, strictly for TV. 468 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with AFC, NFC West East, 469 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: historical rivalries, nothing, geographic rivalries and all that. And and 470 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: my contention is the rivalries go. I mean, the rivalries 471 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: come and go anyway. Yeah, the Bears and Packers are playing. Wow, 472 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: it's important to those two teams. For everybody else, it's 473 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: like right right, right, So what you need is, you know, 474 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: teams that play for something, that means something. So that's 475 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: that's why you realign like this. I would like to 476 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: see this idea in Major League Baseball because there's a 477 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: sport where find anential means really can make a difference 478 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: in n exactly. Yeah, so you put a division where 479 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: it's Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Angels, Boston and you have okay, 480 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna let you have two playoff teams out of that, 481 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: and you give an opportunity for you have another division 482 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: with Minnesota, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, and I don't know Colorado 483 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: to where all right, Now, now that group that doesn't 484 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: have a chance with spending with the big New Yorks 485 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: and las of the world, we'll have a playoff team 486 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: every year and you'd even get into the playoffs. And 487 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: now we're gonna have the small market versus big market 488 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: divisional round to see who actually had the better team 489 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: this year. I'd be fascinating. But this is this is 490 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: the most original real realignment idea I've heard in a 491 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: long time. Most people stick to, you know, geography or 492 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: rivalries or something. Well, the way we got on it 493 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: was inspired by a guy saying, hey, let's make it 494 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: the least travel for every team. And that's how he 495 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: got to his yesterday, we had him on and uh 496 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: and it was okay, you know, but if you're gonna 497 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: do it, do it for the money. Yea. The TV 498 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: markets would would um drool over those first three division 499 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: you're with one. Bill's live Steve Tasker along with Thad 500 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: Brown in today as he's the w R OCTV sports 501 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: director out of Rochester does the sidelines for the Bills. 502 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: Preseas looking forward to that too, astutely working together again. 503 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: I got a text today from Andrew Catalan. He's gonna 504 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: he's ready to go. Yeah, he's staying at the crib. 505 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: He's staying at my house. As staying at the crib. 506 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: It's like nineteen nineties. He's staying at my house. Um, 507 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: when he comes in to do the games and and look, 508 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to hanging out of you guys do 509 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: that regularly or is that anything that sure? No, he's 510 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: been doing it for a while. The problem is he's 511 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: been doing the PGA Golf Tournament the first couple of 512 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: weeks in the preseason. Now they move the PGA tournam 513 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: Now you can do all four with the exception of 514 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: now the Detroit game is going to be a CBS game, 515 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: national game, So you're gonna get that anyway. No, No, yeah, 516 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: here's the thing I gotta We'll get into problems I 517 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: have with this preseason schedule in a minute. But Thad Brown, 518 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, won Bills Live. We're gonna come, come back 519 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: and join us. You can chime in if you want 520 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: eight or three oh five fifty or eight to eight 521 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: two five fifty two five fifty. Which Buffalo Bills players 522 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: gonna go to their first Pro Bowl this season, Treydavious White, 523 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes, Josh Allen or Tremaine Edmunds. Take your pick 524 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: or pick a different one. Give us a call if 525 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: you want. We're gonna be here till three o'clock. We're 526 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: just getting started. Dad Brown Steve Task. You're listening to 527 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. 528 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to One Bill's Live 529 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: Steve Task along with Thad Brown in FROMRTH today. I'm 530 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: hosting the show. So we're bouncing around a little bit 531 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: of like a ping pong bowl, so kind of hanging there, 532 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. We got a Twitter poll that 533 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: you can chime in on which Buffalo bill player is 534 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: going to go to his first Pro Bowl this season. 535 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: We've got to chew and choose between Tredavious White, Tremaine Edmunds, 536 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes, Josh Allen, take your pick, or call us 537 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: and let us know some other name that you want 538 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: to get. We've got some people chiming in already that 539 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: what's uh start with the Bills Monster. Trey White will 540 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: easily make it this year. He should have made it 541 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: twice already, but he isn't well known due to being 542 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: on a non competitive team. And I think the Bill's 543 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: Monster's got a point there. A lot of these guys 544 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: you get in, you know one of three ways. Either 545 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: you have a just an unbelievable spectacular season, you play 546 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: for a team that's won ten, eleven, twelve games in 547 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: one of the playoffs, or you've been to the Pro 548 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: Bowl the last five years, and you just keep getting in. 549 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: Guys named Pouncy get in that way Eric Weddle maybe 550 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: to a lesser degree. So Trey White doesn't qualify in 551 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: any of those three categories, yet you know he's got 552 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good corners in the AFC. I mean, 553 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Xavian Howard just signed a big contract. Denzel Ward is 554 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: young in Cleveland, so you know there is competition there. 555 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: To be honest of this pole, I would probably vote 556 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: for Tremaine Edmonds just because I think there's a guy 557 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: that think a big jump in year two. I don't 558 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: think we saw, you know, even one hundred eighty percent 559 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: of what that guy can do. And I don't think 560 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: there's the competition at that position that there might be 561 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: at corner or at I mean, you know, Josh Allen 562 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback, how is he making a pro over Tom 563 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: Bradyer Mahomes or Ben Roethlisberger in the short term at least, 564 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And that's what you got to look 565 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: at kind of at the position corners of premier position, 566 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: turdevious White knocked it out of the water as a 567 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: rookie and a playoff team and didn't make it right. 568 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: And then last year the team took a step backward, 569 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: and but the defense played statistically better. Yeah, you would 570 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: have thought that they had been more chances last year 571 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: than twenty seventeen. Micah hydewent his first year with the 572 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: Bills in twenty seventeen, the year they made the playoffs. 573 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: But now you gotta you know if you're looking at safety, 574 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: not that this is part of the poll because Hide's 575 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: been there before. But you could make an argument for 576 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer getting her first Pro Bowl bid, well you can. Yeah, 577 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 1: people can vote for him, right, But but I at safety, 578 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: you got Jamal Adams with the Jets and Derwin James. 579 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: I mean, if those two guys are healthy, they're probably 580 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: going the next six eight years just because of who 581 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: they are and what they've done already. Tweet sheet brought 582 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of 583 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Those guys are gonna be busy getting 584 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: them over to the training camp, which which you will 585 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: be at. It starts in a couple of weeks. But 586 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan moving systems 587 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: from Ryan Cook. He tweets in call me a homer, 588 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: but I think there's a chance all four make it. 589 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: In order from best to worst, and in order from 590 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: best to worst. Chance, I would say Alan's the best 591 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: white second, Hughes Edmonds. I give the nod to Alan 592 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: because most quarterbacks selected will be in the playoffs. That's 593 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: how Tyrod got his Pro Bowl bid. I think I 594 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: think he's got that that pull up that list upside down. Yeah, 595 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Allen's gotta gotta jump over some guys 596 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: who were perennial Pro Bowl players, and well, he could 597 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: get automatic votes. He could get in if you want to. 598 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: The way Tyrod got in is because seventeen guys didn't 599 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: want to play, you know, and then Tyrod got in 600 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: that way. He wasn't voted the right you know. So 601 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: if we're talking about that, then sure Allen has a 602 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: good year and has to have a year like Pat 603 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: Mahomes did last year to get in, to get in, 604 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: to be voted in for sure. Yeah, you got to 605 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: talk about you know, forty fifty total touchdowns even not fifty, 606 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: but forty total touchdowns, win ten eleven games, go deep 607 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He's got to get better than everybody else. 608 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: He's gotta have an MVP type of year, don't you think, Well, 609 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: especially considering he's got with Mahomes breakin, get the lineup, 610 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: he's got a crack. Yeah exactly. I mean, look, I 611 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: don't think he'd write this second. Most people would think 612 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: he's the second best quarterback in his division. You know, 613 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: I think people would probably put Sam Donald half a 614 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: notch in front of Josh Allen right this second. And 615 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: we're not even talking about Baker Mayfield or Andrew Luck 616 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: or Philip Rivers or Derek car if he rebounds. So 617 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's so many guys to compete at at quarterback. 618 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: And you know, again, you know guys who've been there 619 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: a year after year continue to go year after year. Yeah. 620 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: So you've been covering the bill since two thousand, You've 621 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: watched a lot of guys go to and from the 622 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. He started when they started going to training camp. 623 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: If you look at the training camp schedule yet, yeah, 624 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: oh yeah, what do you think, Shorter? I mean, I 625 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: wasn't surprised because are they there everybody doomsayers is there 626 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 1: riding on the wall about training camp. Let me let 627 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: me give the between We don't know the Devil's advocate 628 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: point of view. When this new regime came in with 629 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: Sean McDermot and Brandon Bean, the contract that Fisher was up, 630 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: they had an opportunity to make a clean break. They 631 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: could have said, you know, we've got a new coach. 632 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: He prefers to stay in the new facility. You know, 633 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: the contracts up. We've appreciated our time. I'm a Fisher, 634 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: we love our Rochester fans, but we think it's time 635 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: to move with the Orchard Park. And they didn't. They 636 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: signed five more years, you know. And at every turn, 637 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: especially Kimpagoula and Terrapagula progress have professed their interest and 638 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: desire to stay in Rochester. So based on those two things, 639 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if what everybody says and what seems 640 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: to be happening around the league will happen with the Bills. 641 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: And I don't think this year's schedule being about a 642 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: week shorter is necessarily a smoking gun indication that'll happen, 643 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: because the reason the camp is shorter this year is 644 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: the Bills are doing joint practices with the Panthers. If 645 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: the preseason schedule had laid out with Carolina that game 646 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: one week later, then I think we have a full 647 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: camp like we had the last two years and the 648 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: joint practices following that. Yeah. Interestingly enough too, they may 649 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: with this new facility by the way, if you check 650 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: it out. So stuff like that makes me think like 651 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: they're less and less there's less and less of a 652 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: need to take this training camp somewhere else to have 653 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: the things happen that you want to happen that our 654 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: team needs to happen. Basically, one thing they're missing at 655 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: this campus that they have at Saint John Fisher is housing, Right, 656 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: that's it. Do you have the opportunity to take a 657 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: team away from their environment. And one thing I talked 658 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: to I remember who it was last year. One of 659 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: the veterans, might have been Andre Holmes last year. And 660 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: the thing that you do get about having a camp 661 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: an hour and a half away. And I don't know 662 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: if for Donia, for you was the same thing, but 663 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: these guys talk about the fact when you're gone, you're gone. 664 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: There's no you know how getting the kids to school, 665 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: there's no getting people to activities. There's no could just 666 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: stop buying exactly, grabbed milk on the way home. There's 667 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: no mother in law's coming over tonight. All that stuff 668 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: is out. It's just football, and there is a benefit 669 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: to that. Now. It doesn't trump the ability to use 670 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: these taj Mahal like facilities that they have, you know, 671 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: right behind us here in Orchard Park. I don't know. 672 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: But you know the other thing I told you this before, 673 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott has only done camp this way his whole 674 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: career Eagles, Panthers, Bills. Every camp he's done for two, three, 675 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: four weeks, he goes to a college an hour and 676 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: change away and they start camp that way. So you know, 677 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: coaches are creatures to have it. I know. McDermott seems 678 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: to be giving an indication that maybe he's thinking about 679 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: following the league trend and bring it back here. But 680 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: this is the only thing he knows so far. The 681 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: minute they think that it will win more games staying 682 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: here is that they'll do it. A minute that it happens, Yeah, 683 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: Dad Brown, Steve Tasker one Bills Live. You can give 684 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: us a call if you'd like to join in on 685 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: the conversation. Which Buffalo bill is going to have their 686 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: first Pro Bowl season this year eight to three five 687 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: fifty or one eight eight fifty two five fifty. We're 688 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: also talking about officiating and we're going to get into 689 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: that big time. We've also got Matt Chattam, former Patriot 690 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: linebacker rights for the Athletic. He's going to come on 691 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: at one o'clock today and talk about what's going on 692 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: in New England. A lot of changes and you know, 693 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: for a lot of teams, if you the Patriots seemed 694 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: to operate in a vacuum, all the stuff that happened. 695 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: They got to maybe a Hall of Fame guy and 696 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski retiring, They lose this guy, they got a 697 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: guy suspended in Josh Gordon. Tom Brady doesn't show up 698 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: for the OTAs they got. You know, all this stuff 699 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: going to most teams would be a dumpster fire. If 700 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: all that stuff it would look that way, yea. And 701 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: for the Patriots like, oh yeah, that's another Patriot off season. 702 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, when you're the Patriots in a league now 703 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: where there's such an emphasis on quarterback play and coaching, 704 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: and you go into every game with a hall of 705 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: famer in both spots with an advantage, a significant advantage 706 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways in both spots. It makes 707 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: up for any of the other garbage you want to have. 708 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: Who the offensive line is, what the tight end you 709 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: know did on Instagram during the week, you know who 710 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: the defensive back likes or dislikes when you come in, 711 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, with that, you know advantage a quarterback and 712 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: head coach. It makes everything so much easier. And you know, 713 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: in Buffalo and with the Jets and the Dolphins, they've 714 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: been trying to play catchup, especially those two positions for 715 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: so long, and it helps to keep New England on top. Yeah, 716 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't. One of the other things that we've been 717 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: talking about is the officiating. This there's a new rule 718 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: that just came out of new news from the National 719 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: Football League posted. This is posted by Mike Florio this morning. 720 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: Just a few minutes ago. The League's posted an announcement 721 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: on social media that the Competition Committee today unanimously recommended 722 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: the rule approved in March for instant replay of pass 723 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: interference is going to remain in effect for the two 724 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen season only, so it's only going to be 725 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: for this season. But the unanimously recommended rule to approve 726 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: being able to replay pass interference the judgment call. They're 727 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: going to keep it in for twenty nineteen. And the 728 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: big news from that is the automatic review of any 729 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: call in the last two minutes is going to be 730 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: applied to this rule too, you know, the last two 731 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: minutes and a half. If there's a score of turnover 732 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: any of those plays, you don't have to challenge it. 733 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: The guys up in the booth would just call for 734 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: it themselves. There was a debate and a concern about, well, 735 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: if we do this with pass interference and you got 736 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: a team running a two minute drill late, are we 737 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: going to stop every single play because you could make 738 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: an argument there's pass interference or what looks like it 739 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: all the time. And the thought was, let's just make 740 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: coaches challenge. But instead they're going to allow the booth 741 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: guys to you know, initiative review if they want to 742 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: in the last two minutes. Yeah. The fact that automatic 743 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: review will be available for past interference calls and non 744 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: calls in the final two minutes under normal circumstances, and specifically, 745 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: and most importantly, in the final two minutes of either 746 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: half so it's gonna happen automatically in the final two 747 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: minutes of either half from upstairs. It's not gonna have 748 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: to come from the coaches. So the replay official is 749 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: going to stop the game after the two minute warning 750 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: of each half and during time out, and he's gonna say, hey, 751 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: it's time now. All the officials, all the challenges and 752 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: reviews are from upstairs. And when there's clear and obvious 753 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: evidence that pass interference foul may or may not have 754 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: occurred based on viewing the play live or an initial replays, 755 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: the stoppage is going to happen stricter criteria than for 756 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: other reviewable plays to prevent excessive game stoppages. So they're 757 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: gonna have They're gonna that to me is a little 758 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: bit of a gray area. It's gonna look, there's gonna 759 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: be disaster with this. This is this is gonna be 760 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: a very difficult adjustment for the NFL to may the 761 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: same standard for all reviews. This wholly dependent, is wholly 762 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: dependent on the video angles shown by the broadcast networks. 763 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the same thing as they do with 764 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: most other reviews. That the difference is is where you know, 765 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: with a do you cross the goal line? Or did 766 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: that guy step out of bounds? There's a I think 767 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: there's an understanding of where, you know something looks questionable 768 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: with passing interference. I mean, you know watch you know this, 769 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: watch a receiver in a defensive back on almost every 770 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: play in the NFL you can, and that looks like 771 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: passing interference, that might be passing interference. The replay judge 772 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: is gonna be like hail Mary's the player. It's gonna 773 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: be reviewed, and it's gonna be reviewed with the same 774 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: parameters that the officials on the field use, So they're 775 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: not going to have any extra tikie tex stuff consistent 776 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: with the guidelines for officiating the play on the field. 777 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: That's how they're gonna do the hail Mary plays and 778 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: the desperation plays at the end of games and pass 779 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: interference and reviews there. I am, I am, I am 780 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: a pro review guy. I want to get it right. 781 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: I want to get it right as much as possible. 782 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: But this just feels like in overreaction. And many other 783 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: people have said this to what happened with the Saints 784 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: and the Rams last year, and and it's almost like 785 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: where I thought the NFL did a good job with 786 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: introducing replay over the years, it was just turnal or 787 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: just scoring plays, then just turnovers. Then you know, the 788 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: catchule obviously was a mess, but it wasn't like we 789 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: jumped into the deep end with this all right at once. 790 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: They're doing that with pass interference and it may end 791 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: up five ten years down the road to be an 792 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: improvement for how the league is officiated. But for this season, 793 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: there are going to be disasters. There are going to 794 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: be people screaming about pace a game, whether or not 795 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: things need to get reviewed the you know, the flow 796 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: of the game. And you will hear the NFL you know, 797 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: taking to the woodshet about this rule on more than 798 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: one occasion. Yeah, and they you know, it's it's Pandora's 799 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: box a little bit. It's a slippery slope because you're 800 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna go down. And they have never the history of 801 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: the game called bang bang plays where at that it's 802 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: such an instantaneous occurrence at the contact before or after 803 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: the ball reaches in a receiver that if it happens, 804 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: if the ball gets there and then the defender hits, fine, 805 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: But if he gets there and through replay and you 806 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: get it you catch a still shot or one frame 807 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: that shows he hits him two inches before the ball 808 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: gets there, that will be passing that passing interference by 809 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm actually more worried about the other end of it, 810 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about guys that can have 811 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: some contact, about whether or not the balls in the air. 812 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna have to have a review to figure out, 813 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: all right, if the quarterback's here and I've got contact, 814 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: is that passing interference? Right? But now is it here 815 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: and now I got to contact the balls this far 816 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: out of his hand, when now it's a whole different 817 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: call because the ball has been released, that's right, And 818 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to come up with two angles that 819 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: can show the quarterback at the same time as the 820 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: contact fifty yards down the field. There's all, like you said, 821 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: Pandora's box. This will be a big problem for the 822 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: NFL at some point, probably at many points during this season. 823 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: I had a brief stint in that arena last year 824 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: when they did the kickoff rule at the summit in 825 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: New York. Had like fifty people in the room, and 826 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: they were former players. It wasn't just me. It was 827 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: a bunch of former players former officials, league officials, a 828 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: couple of head coaches, three or two or three head 829 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: coaches were in there in the room, and of course 830 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: the competition committee and about eight special teams coaches coordinators, 831 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: and they were all talking about it. And the thing 832 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: that the overriding concern for the entire room and the 833 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: guys who had been there before was like, listen it, 834 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: what are the unintended consequences? Murph and I talked about 835 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 1: it a lot. You know that the rule of unintended consequences, 836 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: when you start down this road, there is going to 837 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: be decisions and circumstances down the line that contradict what 838 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: you're trying to do, or go way too far than 839 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: what you were trying to do. That it opens up 840 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: another opportunity here to say, now we got no idea 841 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 1: what to do. I think this rule has the biggest 842 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: bag of unintended consequences of anything the NFL has done 843 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: replay wise prior to this. All right, you're with Steve 844 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: Tasker and Thad Brown. We're in for one Bill's Live. 845 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break right here. We're gonna come 846 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: back at the top of the hour. Matt Chatham from 847 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: the athletic covers. The busting sports scene is gonna be 848 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: on with us as well. We're gonna take your phone 849 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: calls and we got to tweet Twitter poll as well. 850 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: So come back and join us. One Bill's Live from 851 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome 852 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,919 Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Lives to task along with that Brown, 853 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: we're talking about the Buffalo Bills and we're talking about 854 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: realignment a little bit where we just end up talking 855 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: about the Passenger Friends of the pass inter cham play. 856 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: We're talking a little bit about that. That's the ongoing topic. 857 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: We also have Matt Chatham coming up at one o'clock. 858 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna talk about the New England Patriots and the 859 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: Boston sports scene, what are they doing in the off 860 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: season and also that, but we're not unaware that there 861 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: are other sports going on. The NBA has its Draft tonight. 862 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: What do you think about? Are you gonna watch that 863 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: draft tonight? I watched a little bit of it as 864 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: a six Ers fan. I was dialed into this for 865 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: the Yeah, you know, maybe two three years ago, for 866 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: four years in a row. It's still it's interesting enough 867 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: and and even this year, you know, I think everybody 868 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: knows who the first three picks are gonna be. It's 869 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: gonna be Zion to New Orleans. Number one. Memphis is 870 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: gonna take John Morant probably, and then the next you're 871 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: probably gonna take RJ. Barrett, and then it's you know, 872 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: now that the Pelicans have the fourth pick two after 873 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: the Anthony Davis trade, what do they do? Do they 874 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: flip it for more stuff? Do they spend it on 875 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: a guy? But even with all that being known, and 876 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: I think we haven't had three picks pretty much set 877 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: in this draft for a few years, it's still fascinating 878 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: to see, you know, the moving and shaking because you know, 879 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL draft you go maybe thirty forty picks, 880 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: and these are guys that are instant impact guys. In 881 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 1: the NBA, you might be out of impact guys after 882 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: four or five. You know, the comparison is the round 883 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: two of the NFL starts like a pick six in 884 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: the NBA. So what do you do these teams are 885 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: you know, flipping stuff to create cap room that it's 886 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: not about you know, you think tenth pick overall, I'm 887 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna get a guy there and he's gonna change my 888 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: team you know, you might be using that to again 889 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: create cap room, open up space, or something else. It's 890 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: not the same draft, and it makes it fascinating for 891 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: all of us who follow the NFL draft. Do they? Yeah? 892 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: Do they? And I read an article is written by 893 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: Kevin R. Arnovitz and he maintains that, Listen, the NBA 894 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: is a little different kind of animal. It's time for 895 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: that draft to completely go away, because here's what you're 896 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: up against. You say, wait, all the great guys are 897 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: gonna go to LA. Well, there's still a salary cap 898 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: in place. So it's not like LA can afford Zion 899 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: Williamson because he could play, he'd make three times the 900 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: money going to Charlotte or Milwaukee or whoever. You know, 901 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: you pick the team and Golden State couldn't afford him, 902 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: right all. You know Oklahoma, you know, Okase couldn't afford him. 903 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 1: You know, they've got some problems in some of these 904 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: teams financially that these you know, it would make the 905 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: water shallow, and it would. But while it will still 906 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: give these young guys a chance to pick where they 907 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: want to work. And let's face it, sports is the 908 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: only industry where kid coming out of college can't pick 909 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: where he works. It's patently unfair. You know, all of 910 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: us had a chance to, you know, apply where we 911 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: wanted to go, determine what city we at least hope 912 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: to live in, you know, in my job and the 913 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: one year in now to maybe a little bit of 914 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,280 Speaker 1: lesser extent. It's it's hard to be able to determine 915 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: what place you want to work. But you know, most 916 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: of us doctors, teachers, lawyers. If you want to live 917 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: in Boston, you can, If you want to live in 918 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: South Dakota you can. In the NBA, in the NFL 919 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: you can't. You go over your drafting. The fascinating part 920 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: of this, where you're current starting to sway me, is 921 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: the idea of, you know, Charlotte might have a great 922 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: shot at Zion because they've got a max contract slot 923 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: open to pay, you know, Zion where the Lakers don't 924 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: right now, where a lot of teams don't right now. 925 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: So could you know, Charlotte theoretically sign Zion John Morant, R. J. 926 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: Barrett and just say, hey, we're gonna go with the 927 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft class as our core right and it could, 928 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: it could happen, and it could happen to any of 929 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: these teams. And it would also take the thought of 930 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: tanking out of the equation that every would have to 931 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: be doing it whatever it took to win and win 932 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 1: now and win this season and show that they're committed 933 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: to winning so that the next crop of draft picker 934 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: coming out and says, Okay, they really want to get 935 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: it done, and you know they could make their choices 936 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: based on that, and that does change. That is a 937 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: paradigm shift, no question about it. Everything changes when you 938 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: throw the draft out and give these guys a choice. 939 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: I think the NBA is probably the first league where 940 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: you could do it for all the points that you're raised, 941 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: because they aren't as many guys picked, because you know 942 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 1: there are many guys exactly, you wouldn't have to worry 943 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,479 Speaker 1: about filling out a team. I wonder what the rules 944 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: would be. You know, would Zion have to play under 945 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: a rookie contract because he's gonna make lass as a rookie. 946 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: Then you know Jimmy Butler or kemball Walker is going 947 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: to make as a veteran guy. So if you're still 948 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: playing under those rules, now you're you know, all right, 949 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: you're limiting what he can make, but you're probably making 950 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: a little easier. The Lakers could sign him under that 951 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: you know qualification, he's gonna make less money. It would 952 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: be fascinating to see how I think you got to 953 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: take that off of it because these guys, you know, 954 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,240 Speaker 1: because you can't hinder the teams from getting the guys 955 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: they want to pay for it would say the same 956 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: thing would apply to the teams now they do have 957 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: a budget, a set budget they can spend because of 958 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: the fairness of everything considered, because they do share some revenue. 959 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 1: And once you do that, then you got to say, Okay, 960 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 1: everybody spends the same amount, but you got to pick 961 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: the guys. You got to find out who they are 962 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,919 Speaker 1: and then you know your make your budget. Basically, yeah, 963 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: you can do it plus right now, Sion Williams is 964 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: gonna get drafted night seven years later he gets to 965 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: choose where he goes seven years. That's come on, man, 966 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: And even then you know he's choosing a spot. If 967 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: he goes somewhere else, he's making less than where he 968 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: is now. Because of the way the NBA structures it's 969 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: it's contracts. You can always make more to stay. I 970 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: think the concern you talk about untended consequences earlier. The 971 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: long term play of this for me would be, let's 972 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: say that Charlotte does the thing, we make the argument 973 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: of it that they signed Zion and R. J. Barrett 974 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: and John Moran. Let's say to those three guys, are 975 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: bus now you're stuck with paying these guys all this money. 976 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: You have no future. No other rookie would ever come 977 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: to you because you're already locked into these contracts with 978 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: two guys who are terrible. You got to get it right, 979 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: well right, I mean, but boy, you get one swing 980 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: and then that's it. If we're playing it this one, 981 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: all right, we got two more hours ago. Coming up 982 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: on the top of the hour, we're gonna have Matt Chataman, 983 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: a former linebacker, three time Pro Bowl, three times Super 984 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: Bowl champion with the new England Patriots, coming on, Thad Brown, 985 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,919 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. This is One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, 986 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello Bills Radio Network. 987 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: Sports Update, The NFL Competition Committee unanimously recommended the rule 988 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: approval for March. In March for an instant replay of 989 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: pass interference, remaining in effect for the twenty nineteen season only. 990 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: The league points out that the standard for initiating automatic 991 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: review will be much higher for past interference calls and 992 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: non calls than for other reviewable plays, in an effort 993 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: to avoid excessive style pages. Tight end Michael Roberts was 994 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: waived for the second time this month, less than a 995 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: week after being waived by the Lions following avoided trade 996 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. Roberts was released by the Packers yesterday 997 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,919 Speaker 1: after failing a physical. Roberts has appeared in twenty three 998 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: games with the Lions and has a career total of 999 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: thirteen receptions for one hundred and forty six yards and 1000 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: three touchdowns. The Bisons beat the Indianapolis Indians six to 1001 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: three last night at Salem Field. The Hurd will host 1002 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: Indie for an afternoon game today. First pitch isn't one 1003 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: oh five in just a couple of minutes. The Vancouver 1004 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: Canucks resigned defenseman Alex Edler this morning to a two 1005 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: year contract extension at an average annual value of six 1006 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 1: million dollars. Edler recorded thirty four points in fifty six 1007 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: games this past season. It was announced yesterday that the 1008 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: Canadians will host the twenty twenty NHL Draft, making Montreal 1009 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: the site of the event for the twenty seventh time, 1010 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: the first since two thousand and nine. The twenty twenty 1011 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,479 Speaker 1: NHL Draft will be held over two days, Friday twenty sixth, 1012 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: then Saturday, June twenty seventh. Speaking of the draft, the 1013 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen NHL Draft begins tomorrow in Vancouver. You can 1014 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: watch the draft with the Instigators at seven one six 1015 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: Food and Sports starting at six thirty pm. There will 1016 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: be autographed Sabers Prizes, limited edition Instigators merchandise, and untold 1017 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: draft stories from Sabers Legends. From more details checkout at 1018 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: the Instigators on Twitter. That is your sports update. Steve 1019 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: Tasker along with Thad Brown, we are pleased to be 1020 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: joined now by a former Patriot linebacker from two thousand 1021 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 1: to two thousand and five, a three time Super Bowl 1022 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: champion and a contributor to the Athletic. Matt Chatham from 1023 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: the Athletic joins us now and one bills Live Matt, 1024 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Thad Brown here in Buffalo. Thanks for 1025 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 1: joining us, Hey guys, thanks for having me on. Appreciate it. 1026 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: Give us the pulse of the New England offseason. You 1027 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 1: know you hear maybe a Hall of Fame tight end retires, 1028 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: you got a guy that suspended a wide receiver, your 1029 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: quarterback doesn't show up. Usually that's associated with a umster 1030 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: fire of a franchise. Not quite for the New England Patriots, Yeah, 1031 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're obviously operating on a unique program, 1032 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: sort of their own program. I think even when Rob 1033 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: Gronkowski was still here in the later later stages of 1034 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 1: his career, he was pretty not involved in this time 1035 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: of year anyhow. That was sort of by design. And 1036 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: Brady is, you know, a forty two year old quarterback. Now, 1037 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: who's who's going to be on a different program. I 1038 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't expect the same things of him even back at 1039 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: thirty six, seven and eight. I was a little surprised 1040 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: that it took this long to sort of get on 1041 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: on a modified program, which is good for him and 1042 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,959 Speaker 1: his family. And you're living a life a decade past 1043 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: lost your teammates, So it makes total sense to me 1044 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 1: that he kind of does his own thing. But you know, 1045 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: the beauty of it as he trains hard and he's 1046 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, he even still continues to post on social 1047 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: media and these local workouts they do with some of 1048 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: his guys, So it's just not going to be a 1049 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: concern with that particular player. Of course, Matt, you talk 1050 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 1: about the some of the guys being on unique programs. 1051 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: There are many in Western New York who think Rob 1052 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 1: Gronkowski is on the Brett Fire program, in which if 1053 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: he feels like coming back, even though he says he's retired, 1054 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: he's going to come back. Is Rob one done or 1055 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: is there still maybe the sliver of a door opening 1056 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: that he could return at some point this year. I 1057 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: think there's always a sliver of a door opening. But 1058 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: I think one thing that he's done that I actually is, 1059 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: as a player would heavily endorses. When you retire, there's 1060 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 1: gonna be that elation, I'm done, let's go. You know, 1061 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 1: do things that are completely non football. One of the 1062 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,919 Speaker 1: things you can help do to sort of take away 1063 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: the temptation is to change your body, because then it 1064 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 1: sort of takes it off the table for you, and 1065 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: you know you'll see offensive lineman that drop fifty pounds, 1066 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: and you do that even if people start calling you 1067 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,280 Speaker 1: in October November, it won't matter. Gronk, I certainly I'm exaggerated. 1068 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: He hasn't lost that I'm on weight, but he looks 1069 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 1: really fit in a non sort of tightening kind of way. 1070 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: Not kind of guess on the guy's body weight, but 1071 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: he's he looks thinner, he looks lift, he looks in 1072 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: great condition. But he loves, he loves to post the 1073 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: pictures online without a shirt on. And it just doesn't 1074 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 1: look like a big bulk up two hundred and seventy 1075 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 1: or eighty pound tight end anymore. And that's okay. You 1076 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,720 Speaker 1: know a lot of us if you've had back issues, 1077 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,879 Speaker 1: or you've had knee issues or lower body any kind 1078 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,359 Speaker 1: of thing taking some pressure off your body once you're done, 1079 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: is you know, by dropping the weight, it's a good 1080 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 1: thing to do. So again, if the temptation hits him, 1081 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 1: it would look based on just you know, anecdotal nonsense, 1082 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: but from here in June, but it looks like he's 1083 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: in a situation where if he really really changed his 1084 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: mind later in the year, it takes a couple of 1085 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: really hard months of loading to get back to where 1086 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: he used to be. So I think, in part, you 1087 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: can kind of help direct your own decision. But if 1088 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 1: he makes his mind up, you know, we know how 1089 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 1: hard he works. He could probably get back there, no problem. 1090 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 1: We're talking with Matt Chatham, former New England Patriot linebacker, 1091 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 1: three times Super Bowl champion. Matt one thing, I got it. 1092 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: He wrote an interesting article about the quarterbacks in the 1093 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,720 Speaker 1: AFC East. We've mentioned it in passing a number of times. 1094 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: How you know, you get three guys who were drafted 1095 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: in the same draft class all of a sudden and 1096 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: dude to one trade. Now they're all three in the 1097 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: same division. And the other guy in a division, Tom Brady, 1098 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: is you mentioned it, He's two decades older than these guys. 1099 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: It's an interesting dynamic. Yeah, it's just it could just 1100 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: be an outball quirk. But you know, when I was 1101 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: going back in a research team sort of what else said, 1102 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 1: you know the circuit eight collect to find how deep 1103 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 1: and how far did I have to look to find 1104 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: a comparable circumstance. And that's the independent of the Brady thing. 1105 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 1: But just even to the extent where you have three 1106 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 1: teams in the same division drafted inside the top ten, 1107 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: that was a relative rarity. I went back a decade 1108 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: and I found one in twenty sixteen, and again that 1109 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: was a situation where all three guys, albeit in the 1110 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: same division, all inside the top ten. It was three 1111 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: different positions, you know, one's the corner, one's at a quarterback, 1112 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: and I think maybe receiver or something like that. But 1113 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: the point was, it's it's we're at another sort of 1114 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: many degrees of separation of rarity when you get not 1115 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: only three within the division, but three within the digi 1116 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: division playing the most important position in the game. And 1117 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: it's again, I think a little heightened level of expectation 1118 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: for you guys over there, for the Jets down and 1119 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,439 Speaker 1: down South, and then also in Miami because we're talking 1120 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: about this is the year of that draft. We're talking 1121 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: about year two, which is when you start to expect 1122 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: some return on an investment. So it's a it's a 1123 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: really really bizarre situation in NFL history to have this 1124 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: all going on in one division at one time. You 1125 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 1: could almost say that it's similar a little bit, not 1126 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: in terms of the top ten picks, but to the 1127 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three draft. We're actually technically you had all 1128 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: five teams in the same division draft the quarterback that year. 1129 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 1: The Colts took John Elway, the Jets took Keny O'Brien, 1130 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: Tony Easton the Patriots, Dan Marino, the Dolphins, and Jim 1131 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: Kelly here in Buffalo. That division, you know, when it 1132 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: came to Marino, Kelly, Easton and O'Brien ended up, you know, 1133 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: pretty competitive, a lot of fun battles. Do you think 1134 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: there's a likelihood that we get something similar not this year, 1135 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: next year with Brady still in the division, but you 1136 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: know maybe twenty three, twenty four, you know, when it's 1137 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, Sam Donald and Josh Allen. Yeah, you start 1138 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 1: looking at second contract time. I mean, I guess if 1139 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 1: I were a gambling man on this, you know, this 1140 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: typically one of the things that I was trying to 1141 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: look at over Yeah, I try to stick to the 1142 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: last ten years because things do change. But there it's 1143 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 1: a rarity when you have three that would be value 1144 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,320 Speaker 1: his top ten picks anyhow. I mean, that's that's sometimes 1145 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: that's a reflection of even sometimes that's a reflection of 1146 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 1: the thirty two's view on the quality of those three 1147 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,919 Speaker 1: particular guys. So that's a little unusual. And like you mentioned, 1148 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,720 Speaker 1: the eighty three year, that's sort of the gold standards. 1149 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: So many studs and Hall of famers ended up coming 1150 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: out of that class. But It is back to sort 1151 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: of the gambling notion of this. I think when you're 1152 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: when you're picking that high and three people are picking 1153 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: that high, there's a pretty pretty safe and reasonable expectation 1154 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: that one of the three of them is going to hit, 1155 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: not just as a good player, but as a sort 1156 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: of a legacy guy, guy that'll stick around for maybe 1157 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: it's two to three, maybe on a fourth contract, be 1158 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: a part of the brand, be a part of, you know, 1159 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: what they're all about for many many years. So I 1160 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: think that's relatively a safe kind of thing, you know. 1161 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: You ever, Matt Ryan's out there and you have your 1162 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Lux and sort of that group where a transcendent 1163 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: guy for the organization that's going to stick through several rounds. 1164 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 1: That makes sense that one of these three guys would 1165 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: come through it that way. I think your odds of 1166 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: two of the three hitting become obviously considerably lower, but 1167 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,280 Speaker 1: it's a possibility. The idea that all three hits probably 1168 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 1: closer to zero. So and again I'm not trying to 1169 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: handicap which of the three that would be or which 1170 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,240 Speaker 1: of the two out of the three are the better odds. 1171 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: It's just the notion of hitting all three. Sometimes I 1172 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: think comes down to more maybe an overstep based on 1173 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 1: the It's like, hey, Matt, we need one. This happens 1174 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: to be the guy that's phone in this particular season. 1175 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 1: You know, all years, all things considered, would we have 1176 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: made the same choice. Maybe maybe not. So it'll be 1177 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: fun to watch it play out and see which is 1178 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: the three hit. And we know supporting supporting cast helps 1179 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: elevate guys as well. We're talking to Matt Chatam, former 1180 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: Patriot linebacker, contributor to the Athletic and Matt, I got 1181 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: to ask you, what's the perception of the rest of 1182 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 1: the AFC East in Boston? I know you're kind of 1183 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 1: neck deep into your big Bruins fan and you're just 1184 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 1: fresh off the NHL Stanley Cup Final it was disappointing, 1185 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: But well, what's the perception of the rest of the division, Well, 1186 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: particularly the Buffalo Bills in New England? How do they 1187 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: view Sean McDermott coming into his third year and the 1188 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: strates of the Bills are trying to make and competing 1189 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: with their team up there. I guess it just depends 1190 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: on who we're talking to, uh, you know, and when 1191 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: I say when you say perception in New England. I 1192 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: don't know if we're talking to the sort of the angry, 1193 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: sort of dark web Twitter guy who's going to complain 1194 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: about everything or is going to deride everyone in the 1195 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 1: AFC other than Patriots. That I think there's a small 1196 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,240 Speaker 1: sect that does that. It is going to mock them, 1197 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, endlessly until until this run ends. Uh. That 1198 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: that's one small percentage. I think there's another, closer to 1199 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: a majority that is always actually respected what goes on 1200 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,479 Speaker 1: in the East and has a little bit of salt 1201 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 1: that that it's so often derided that hey, the Patriots 1202 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 1: have done what they've done just because they've been in 1203 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 1: the East and you know, and no, it's just, you know, 1204 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 1: there's never been good teams with Buffalo, New York or Miami, 1205 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 1: and that's been some sort of lubricated pass for New 1206 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: England all these years. I think that's nonsense to I 1207 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: can say that even for my time in New England 1208 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: or when I was with a Jets for those years. 1209 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: So I think the path is always difficult with these guys. 1210 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: But in fairness, yeah, it hasn't been bought via the 1211 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: quarterback position, which often is the easier dropp for people's attention. 1212 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: But man, there's been tremendous defenses. It's each of three 1213 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: of those or each of those three organizations over the 1214 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: last twenty years, just year to year of whether it 1215 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: would be Miami, Buffalo has had Theirs and the Jets, 1216 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, have just been coming to go, especially the 1217 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan years. So I think there's obviously a percentage 1218 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,479 Speaker 1: of the population here that always has a healthy respect 1219 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: it will be dangerous. Now do they look at any 1220 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: of those three as future Super Bowl contenders or necessarily 1221 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 1: deep playoff run team? Probably not at this point obviously, 1222 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that they're not very agitating that 1223 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: there's someone to respect. There's there's certainly not someone to 1224 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: look past. And I think that's generally the themo of 1225 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: how the team operates. They're they're not They take the 1226 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 1: thing in front of their nose very seriously. And that's 1227 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: those three teams twice a year. And I think would 1228 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 1: you add in Brian Flores down there and down there 1229 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: in Miami and the extreme respect that those guys up 1230 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: here have for him, that that I think it brings 1231 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: respect law up believing a little high. Shan mcdermot's got 1232 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 1: something growing on great with you guys, and uh, you know, 1233 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: just we don't know what's going on in New York. 1234 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: It's sort of a little better. That would be your 1235 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: situation of chaos to sauce Peas, And it seems a 1236 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 1: little pecular what's going on down there as far as 1237 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, post draft transactions and things like that. But no, 1238 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 1: it's I think some one of those three is going 1239 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: to be a playoff type contender. We'll see how it 1240 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: shaked out. Man. I was fascinated by what you call 1241 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: and you reference it there just a minute ago, the 1242 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: New England butterfly effect. The argument that you know, like 1243 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,920 Speaker 1: you said, are were the Patriots good because the other 1244 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: three teams in the division were bad? Or did the 1245 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: Patriots success kind of suppress the other three teams? And 1246 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, continuing that line of thought, if you put 1247 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: New England in the AFC North or the NFC South, 1248 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: would the Patriots have dominated those divisions in the same way? 1249 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: And you make the argument that they would have, and 1250 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 1: I agree, But I think if you want to take 1251 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 1: that out logically, and you, as a guy who knows 1252 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: this division, who's been multiple places in it, you're a 1253 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: great person to ask about this. If you take New 1254 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: England out of that AFC East, what team or what 1255 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: regime are we talking to Pennington Jets, the Drew Bledsoew Bills. 1256 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: What team would have been better, maybe would have been 1257 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: more respected had they not had to contend with Brady 1258 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: and Belichick twice a year as the hat on that 1259 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: division over the last fifteen years. Yeah, I mean, I 1260 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: think it's as much as a win or two a year. 1261 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if you've removed that and add in a 1262 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: more average team, I just think that's something that you 1263 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to wish upon yourself if you were in 1264 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: one of those other divisions and sort of having these 1265 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: decades later hot take kind of conversations. Who wants to 1266 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: wish that upon the Bills? Yea? How many? How many 1267 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: regimes out there if they were one? Or you know, 1268 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: if you're if you're really pleased with your ten and 1269 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 1: six and that ten and six ended up being nine 1270 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: or seven or eight and may you know, those are 1271 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: the kind of conversations that prompt coaching changes. You stay safe. 1272 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: If you're a ten and six or eleven five, you 1273 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: want to wish them in your division and take away 1274 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 1: a win or two a year. It's not going to 1275 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 1: hurt them as much as it will use. So if 1276 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,479 Speaker 1: I would look back historically, I mean, again, maybe maybe 1277 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 1: people would call this bias, but I always had a 1278 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: tremendous respect from for Chad Penny and he had a 1279 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: terrible luck with that shoulder again, banged up a couple 1280 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: of times. So he was a stud and he was 1281 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: a very good player, and they had good defenses around 1282 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: him at the time, and a lot of talent on 1283 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: that group, And yeah, I think some of the things 1284 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: the otherwise would have done were yeah a factor because 1285 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 1: they were in that particular division. So I think that's 1286 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 1: one group that certainly could have elevated by winner two. 1287 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: And you go back to those ridiculous defenses the Dolphins 1288 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: have was Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor and then Sam 1289 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Madison and all those guys on the outside, Patrick Surtammy, 1290 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 1: and that was a ridiculously good and talented defensive group 1291 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 1: that weren't putting together Vision Championships and playoff runs themselves 1292 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: because they were behind New England. So I think there's 1293 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 1: certainly some fortunes that would be positive. And we're not 1294 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: saying wildly different, we're not saying, you know, it's a 1295 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: fortune's changed by four games, but if you even go 1296 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 1: back and just check out O old division rankings and say, 1297 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 1: give him another victory, change where they would have been 1298 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,919 Speaker 1: either sneaking in and a division winner or not having 1299 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: sort of a bad scenario for a wild card round, 1300 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 1: and how do people's lives change. It's pretty amazing. And 1301 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 1: I thought from the other side, you know, when we 1302 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: were down there in New York were in two thousand 1303 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: and six, We've beat them on their plates. We beat 1304 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 1: them up here in New England and is that final 1305 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: game on grass and they were upset. We kind of 1306 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: tore them up on the bad surface and they went 1307 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 1: down to put turf afterwards, and we came back there 1308 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: in the first round and they kicked our house. So 1309 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's just one of those things where you 1310 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: can really start to nip at their heels, but passing 1311 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 1: them is so difficult to do it and sustain it. 1312 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: So I just really think, if you're in another vision 1313 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: and you'll like that hot take, don't don't wish bade 1314 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: will found yourself. Yeah, it's not a good idea. I 1315 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 1: kind of agree with you, and certainly it's easy enough 1316 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: to point your finger at the Patriots and say they've 1317 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: had the best quarterback of all time for all these years. 1318 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: And maybe that's one of the reasons. And certainly, uh 1319 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is nothing to take for granted or to 1320 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: say or to belittle his country contributions. But let's face it, 1321 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: he has done it year in year out. And this 1322 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: year they drafted nikkil Harry in the first round of 1323 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: the two nineteen draft, and we just saw social media. 1324 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: Now Tom is out throwing with Josh Gordon as well. 1325 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: How do you think this offense is gonna look without 1326 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski with Nikil Harry Josh Gordon is still a 1327 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: question mark. And of course they just picked up the 1328 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 1: tight end or they they just dropped their tight end, 1329 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski. So what's this How is this offense or 1330 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: the Patriot's going to look this year compared to last year? 1331 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: We do not know, And I think that kind of 1332 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 1: makes it fun. I think that makes it entertaining as 1333 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 1: we head into this training camp in these preseason games, 1334 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 1: because it's gonna have to shake itself out. And I 1335 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 1: don't think if we were you know, if you're working 1336 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 1: on that staff right now and I can't say I 1337 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 1: would be extremely surprised if they had a very clear 1338 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: review of who they were going to be. And I 1339 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: think that's that's what makes this interesting. I think it's 1340 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 1: a really good way to build a team. You don't 1341 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:45,959 Speaker 1: you can't see it here in the middle of June 1342 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: and say well, here's your starting eleven. Can't do it 1343 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: with that group, not at all. I mean, I don't 1344 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 1: think we know who their left tackle is right now. 1345 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: They have high hopes for Isaiah Win in the first 1346 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: round or a year ago, but because the achilles, there's 1347 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: a little uncertainty whether or not he'll be ready on 1348 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 1: on the first day. And Yadnika Juice is the guy 1349 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: they take in the third round this year as another 1350 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 1: potential left tackle guy, but he had an offseason surgery 1351 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 1: coming out of the draft and so he's not quite 1352 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 1: there yet. So there may be a young guy at 1353 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: left side, and we don't know how that's going to 1354 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: shake out. So you know, that's just the core that 1355 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: matters so important, just the offensive line component. But Matt, 1356 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned the running back group. I think with the 1357 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 1: new guys that they brought in there, Damian Harris being 1358 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: the kid from Alabama, and then you know you already 1359 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: f James White, he got Sony Michelle as a high 1360 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: rag and pick a high round picked the year ago, 1361 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: and then Rex Burkhead and is a really well respected 1362 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: guy here. It's just an extremely competitive room. Even if 1363 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 1: you're in the fantasy football who's the day one starter, 1364 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: who's a high touch guy? I couldn't tell you. So 1365 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: it all has to shake itself out. I think one 1366 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 1: of the other things here too, is that that receiver 1367 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 1: group you mentioned to kill Harry and I think it's 1368 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: a promising, exciting thing. But the pendul in a rookie 1369 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: on day one, even if they're a first rounder, you know, 1370 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 1: you gotta let that stuff shake out and see how 1371 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: quickly they pick up the offense and where the comfort 1372 01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 1: level is with them. And then you take a big 1373 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: name out like the Marius Thomas who's doing a rehab 1374 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 1: sent here and we don't know exactly when he'll be ready, 1375 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 1: and you know, all of a sudden, if Marius is 1376 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 1: ready and back to old form, and as you mentioned, 1377 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon becomes a part of the formulas, say mid 1378 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: October November, whenever they make that decision, well things look 1379 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: a lot different now. So who are you playing If 1380 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 1: you're the Jets, if you're if you're Buffalo, if you're Miami, 1381 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 1: you're looking up here, you know, sort of offsets and preparing. 1382 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 1: I don't think you can even get into what groupings 1383 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 1: are are yet. We don't really know ourselves. How long 1384 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 1: will the window for the Patriots being an elite team, 1385 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 1: how long does it stay open? It's great question, and 1386 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 1: I think the drum I've been beating all these years 1387 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 1: is that the window is in sort of resting on 1388 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: Tom's shoulders, and you know it's that's not, by any 1389 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 1: stretches meant to be a disrespect to him. I think 1390 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 1: he's the greatest ever by a mile, and I think, 1391 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 1: but I think that's independent of how long an organization 1392 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: can stay not on the top and near the top, right, 1393 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: I think they'll be I'll think, well, they'll be in 1394 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 1: the mix as long as coach Belichick's there, or you 1395 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 1: have some sort of consistency with the approach at the top. 1396 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: You know, mister Kraft is going to put a winner 1397 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: out on the field, and I think which Belichick has 1398 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 1: shown that he can win a number of ways. I mean, 1399 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: they just want a super Bowl holding a thirty point 1400 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: offense to the three points. So that's independent of you know, 1401 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: Tom in Obviously Tom's brilliant and some of the big 1402 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 1: situations come through and that's important to have as well. 1403 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 1: But it's not as if you know, we're having window 1404 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 1: talking team. Wow, they scored thirty in the Super Bowl 1405 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 1: and that helps them win it. How much longer can 1406 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 1: that go on? Well if that wasn't how they got 1407 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: there and definitely at least how they finished it off. 1408 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 1: So I think unfortunately, if you're you know, one of 1409 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: the other teams in the league, you can't just expect 1410 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 1: some four game change because of the quarterback. But you'll 1411 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 1: never have you obviously won't expect quarterback play at that level. 1412 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 1: But this is football. You know, there's there's twenty two 1413 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 1: different guys that they're going to be deal with, and 1414 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 1: you can, you know, can more heavily wait other areas 1415 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: and have other areas of expertise that can get you 1416 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 1: to the finish line just a different way. Man. We 1417 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 1: here in Western New York have been wandering the desert 1418 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 1: searching for sports success for a long long time now. 1419 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 1: While obviously in Boston success is almost not only a yearly, 1420 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 1: but a monthly thing. Would you oblige the fancy in 1421 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: Western New York and allow us to revel in some 1422 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: Boston failure and talk about what Game seven of the 1423 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: Standley Cup Finals was like, yeah, right, it was rough. 1424 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 1: And you know, I've got young kids. I've got an 1425 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: eleven year old. It's a big time hockey kid, absolutely 1426 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,320 Speaker 1: adores a sport. Makes me wish I'd have played it 1427 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: as a kid to be able to offer more. I can't. 1428 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm sort of along for the ride. And you know, 1429 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: he wanted to go to a parade on Saturday and 1430 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 1: he didn't get through. We were watching, and you know, 1431 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: it's the incredible fortune of having young children about that 1432 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 1: age group and how many of these things they've gone to. 1433 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 1: He's ridden in a socks parade, and he's done the 1434 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 1: Patriots thing is an alumni thing several times. And we 1435 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 1: get to do a lot of cool stuff around here, 1436 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 1: and we know we're extremely blessed in that. But you know, 1437 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 1: I throw a question back at you because I'm curious, 1438 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 1: as a Western New York guy, do you revel in 1439 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 1: into the Toronto stuff because it's relatively nearby, or do 1440 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,600 Speaker 1: you stay clear of that it is. It's easier to 1441 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 1: relevant in it, Matt, because it's not a sport we have, 1442 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's the younger it's the closest NBA 1443 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 1: team to us, so you can't kind of claim it. 1444 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: There are those who do it was better than what 1445 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 1: we normally get to, that's for sure. There you go, Yo. Yeah, 1446 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean hey, for me personally, I'm laughing enough. It's 1447 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 1: helping me appreciate sports that I'm not, you know, obviously 1448 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 1: as in depth into. But I got in a lot 1449 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 1: of ball quirk and I think this has been a 1450 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 1: thing on social media, is getting beat around with a 1451 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: lot of the Nesting guys. I worked a New England 1452 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 1: Sports Network, which is obviously the stock station and and 1453 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 1: for the Bruins, and uh, I got a I got 1454 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 1: a World Series ring last year, you know, a scale 1455 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 1: down version if they give staff at Nesting and it 1456 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of sits there in the box. It's fun to 1457 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 1: pull out. But I'm like, you know, I got three 1458 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: the real kinds of the past. So it's kind of 1459 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 1: like do I I don't deserve that, but it's kind 1460 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 1: of fun to look at. But yeah, you kind of 1461 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: almost giggle. It's like how much good fortune can come 1462 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 1: people's way. But yeah, it's great lessons for kids that 1463 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 1: around here. You you uh, you learn the winning ways, 1464 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 1: all right, Matt Chattam, former Patriot linebacker, three times Super 1465 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 1: Bowl champion, contributor to the Athletic thanks for joining us today, Matt, 1466 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 1: appreciate it, and have a great day, all right. I 1467 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: gotta take join the summer you too. That was You know, 1468 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 1: it's interesting, how you know, you hear about it a 1469 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 1: lot these days because the Socks for years, one hundred 1470 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 1: years didn't win a World Series. Then they won three, 1471 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, cup, the handful of them. Now the Patriots 1472 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 1: have won six Super Bowls and lost a couple of 1473 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 1: them and lost three of them. And you know now 1474 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 1: they're they're the Bruins have won a couple of Stanley Cups. 1475 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,320 Speaker 1: It is a championship city, no question about it. Their 1476 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 1: sports are. This has been an era that'sn't been unprecedented 1477 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,680 Speaker 1: in North America. The thing that blew me away the 1478 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,679 Speaker 1: most is that about a month and a half ago, 1479 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,559 Speaker 1: it was legitimately possible that Boston could hold all four 1480 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 1: major sports championships at the same time. Not a joke. 1481 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,719 Speaker 1: Celtics yeah, yeah, Bruins Patriots were all in the playoffs, 1482 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 1: the Bruins and Celtics. Yeah, and look good. I mean, 1483 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 1: this wasn't This wasn't a well, you know, if they 1484 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 1: get five things to break their way, and maybe this 1485 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,639 Speaker 1: was a We think Boston's the best team in the East. 1486 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,600 Speaker 1: The Bruins are leg you know, we're like, okay, you 1487 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,600 Speaker 1: were saying after the first round, I think it was 1488 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: after the first round of the Stanley Cups, you were like, 1489 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,679 Speaker 1: twenty gamesames away. Yeah, you know, twenty they combined, combining 1490 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 1: in two sports, twenty games away. It's next, right, it 1491 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 1: could happen, right, I mean, especially in Buffalo, where it 1492 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 1: feels like making the playoffs sometimes is twenty games away. 1493 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Thad Thad Brown Uh here with you 1494 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. We're gonna take a break. Come 1495 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 1: up at the bottom of the hour. We're gonna talk 1496 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more about which Pro Bowl player, which 1497 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo bill player do you think is gonna have their 1498 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,640 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl season, their first Pro Bowl season. We'll take 1499 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,760 Speaker 1: a couple of phone calls. You can tweet at us 1500 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 1: or call us at eight O, three oh five fifty 1501 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 1: or one eight eight, five fifty two, five fifty We're 1502 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 1: gonna take a break. One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida 1503 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,559 Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1504 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Task along with 1505 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: Thad Brown and for Murth Today we are chit chatting 1506 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 1: about everything under the sun. We just just got off 1507 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 1: the phone with Matt Chatham of the Athletic in Boston, 1508 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,840 Speaker 1: three times Super Bowl champion, talking about the window for 1509 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots, and a bunch of other stuff in the 1510 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 1: Boston sports market and the AFC East in general and 1511 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and an article he wrote, good stuff. Glad to 1512 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 1: have him on. He was good. We're gonna to have 1513 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,600 Speaker 1: him back. At some point, there needs to be a 1514 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: book written how mo Lewis changed the NFL, because it 1515 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,160 Speaker 1: was he was the one that hit Drew Bledsoell that 1516 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 1: forced Tim Brading into the lineup for the Patriots. And 1517 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 1: after that, where does everything go? You want to talk 1518 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 1: about the law of unintended consequences? That was it to 1519 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: a t. Mo Lewis hits Drew Bledsoe and all the 1520 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 1: rest of us to go to purgatory for twenty years 1521 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 1: in the acast just oh my gosh, you're right now. 1522 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 1: We're talking also about realignment and also officiating. And we 1523 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 1: also had that conversation about our Twitter poll, which is 1524 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 1: which Buffalo bill will go to their first Pro Bowl 1525 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen. And we got Mike on the 1526 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,160 Speaker 1: line from Buffalo. We're gonna take a phone call. This 1527 01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 1: is a real shot in the dark him to do 1528 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,759 Speaker 1: this very often when I'm doing the show. Mike from Buffalo, 1529 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,680 Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Thanks for calling the program. I 1530 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 1: Steeve Pith added, thanks for taking my call. Um. Now, 1531 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,679 Speaker 1: this is a realignment that I did three years ago 1532 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 1: after a post on Facebook. UM I didn't the only 1533 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: divisions I didn't change or the NFC North and both 1534 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 1: of the West divisions. UM I moved from my AFC East. 1535 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 1: I did the Bills, Pats, Jets, Ravens. For the North, 1536 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: I did Steelers, Browns, Bengals, Colts, and the South was Dolphins, Jags, Hugons, 1537 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:45,680 Speaker 1: and Texans. UM for the NFC East, I did Eagles, Giants, Redskins, Panthers, 1538 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,520 Speaker 1: and for the South, I did Falcons, Bucks, Saints and Cowboys. 1539 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Now I know I broke up the whole Dallas Washington 1540 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 1: thing by figures. If the NFL really wanted to keep 1541 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,320 Speaker 1: that going, we could see that at everything'sgiving. That's pretty 1542 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,720 Speaker 1: much the geographic relocation right where you kind of make 1543 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 1: everybody makes sense about what were you know, who's who's 1544 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: closest and lessening travel more or less pretty much. Yeah, 1545 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,200 Speaker 1: and what seemed right, Um A lot of people when 1546 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 1: I did this on two different uh posts, actually a 1547 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: lot of people liked it and thought, you know, compared 1548 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 1: to what originally had been posted, that this was a 1549 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: better realignment compared to everything else. So you had both 1550 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 1: Western divisions for each conference remained the same, and Buffalo, 1551 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 1: New England, Baltimore and what would it be the Jets? 1552 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 1: The Jets New York? Yeah, okay, yeah, I get you. 1553 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,639 Speaker 1: And would who would Miami go in with? Miami would 1554 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 1: be in um, the South with the Jags, Titans, and Texans. Yeah. 1555 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 1: I've done this a few times myself, and that's this 1556 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,639 Speaker 1: is the sensible geographic one. This is the one where 1557 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 1: if you want to be logical and and make things 1558 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: simple and easy, this is as you do. The NFL 1559 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,599 Speaker 1: is not known for doing this very often. Well, yeah, 1560 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 1: the problem is you get so much pushback from the 1561 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,040 Speaker 1: owners who want to keep Mike. Thanks for the call, 1562 01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,479 Speaker 1: appreciate it. You get so much pushback from the owners 1563 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 1: because there's so much tradition in history. And that's what 1564 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 1: I got from Murph yesterday. You know, he didn't you 1565 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 1: know what, you know, you gotta have the Bears play 1566 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 1: the Packers and that kind of stuff. And I get it, Okay, 1567 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 1: you gotta have Dallas in New York or Dallas in Washington. 1568 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,600 Speaker 1: When here it was Bills Miami, figure Bills Miami. But 1569 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 1: the point is all that time, it goes away when 1570 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,519 Speaker 1: neither the teams are good. And that's the exact one 1571 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna make when I when I started covering 1572 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 1: the Bills back in two thousand, Dolphins Week was the thing. 1573 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,599 Speaker 1: Dolphins that that was. You went around all the guys 1574 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: in locker room and said, Wow, it's Dolphins Week. What 1575 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,960 Speaker 1: do you mean? That was just the question, You're playing 1576 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. What's the big deal? You know? And over 1577 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: the years, I'd say, you know, twenty ten, eleven, it's 1578 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,599 Speaker 1: not being a thing. Now, Miami's just another division game. 1579 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 1: If anything, the rivalry is New England. That rival willing 1580 01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: goes one way. Yeah, it's a one way right exactly. 1581 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 1: But the rivalry with the Dolphins that Ralph Wilson decades 1582 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,679 Speaker 1: ago pushed so hard to keep, I don't think anywhere 1583 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 1: near important anymore. Maybe older Bills fans would disagree with me, 1584 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 1: but I think for the most part, if the Bills 1585 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 1: got out of a division with Miami, most people wouldn't care. Right, 1586 01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 1: So we're having this conversation about realignment. We also have 1587 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,599 Speaker 1: a Twitter poll that we've been going back and forth 1588 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 1: with and most of it has to do and it 1589 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 1: has to do with which Buffalo Bill do you think 1590 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,960 Speaker 1: is going to have their first Pro Bowl season? Sixty 1591 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 1: one percent of you say Tredevious White, seventeen percent say 1592 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, eleven percent say both Jerry Hughes and Josh 1593 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,680 Speaker 1: All And that is a that is a horse race, 1594 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 1: but Tredavious White running away with it, I think because 1595 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 1: they'ves had consistent production. But I'll tell you what, Jerry 1596 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 1: Hughes is the guy that's got the best shot at it. 1597 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm stunned Hughes is getting so little. I am too, 1598 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,599 Speaker 1: because he is considered by the analytics people, and probably 1599 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,320 Speaker 1: because the analytics people consider him an elite pass rusher. 1600 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 1: I think coaching staff probably do too, and therefore they 1601 01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 1: coach their players and their players here about the guy, 1602 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:55,760 Speaker 1: and they think he is too that kind of thing. 1603 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 1: So they're the ones that he's having this success against. 1604 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Although statistics aren't that great, certainly the respect for him 1605 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,879 Speaker 1: is present around the league. Can talk about the analytics 1606 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,760 Speaker 1: community like, you know, I kind of look at it 1607 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 1: that way. If there were one hundred and sixty NFL 1608 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 1: games as opposed to sixteen, Jerry Hughes eventually would get 1609 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 1: the stats, like it would, it would come around. It's 1610 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,560 Speaker 1: same thing as a guy. I said this earlier in 1611 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,120 Speaker 1: the show. If you've got a guy whos hitting the 1612 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,800 Speaker 1: ball hard in baseball all the time, eventually the balls 1613 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,920 Speaker 1: are gonna start dropping, and eventually the balls are gonna start, 1614 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 1: you know, going out for Homer's. If if they played 1615 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 1: more than sixteen games, Jerry Hughes would have the numbers 1616 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,680 Speaker 1: and probably would get more Pro Bowl nods, would get 1617 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 1: his first you know, I would have had, you know, 1618 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: a few years ago. And also we're getting feedback from 1619 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 1: the tweet Sheet. The tweet Sheet brought to you by 1620 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,679 Speaker 1: Oh Corrigan moving the official movers are the Buffalo Bills 1621 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 1: from sipping the kool aid. All of these have a 1622 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 1: really great chance to make the Pro Bowl. But I 1623 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,840 Speaker 1: think you're gonna leave You're leaving someone out of the poll. 1624 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 1: I realized you only have four options to put out there. 1625 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,320 Speaker 1: But I think Jordan Poyer has an incredible year. If 1626 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: he has an incredible year, and he'll make his first probe. 1627 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,320 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer getting in on the act, and I agree 1628 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,400 Speaker 1: the safety tandem for the Buffalo Bills is really great. 1629 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,599 Speaker 1: I think maybe for some reason, rather they cancel each 1630 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 1: other out for some people, well, there's no doubt they've 1631 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 1: made an enormous difference since they're signing three years ago. 1632 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 1: I think the part of it is, too, is the 1633 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 1: way the Bills play defense. They kind of do it 1634 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,639 Speaker 1: as a group. You know, you don't put tridevious wet 1635 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 1: on an island too offens a zone concept. It's working together. 1636 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they do so many things as a secondary 1637 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 1: collectively that most teams can't do that. You're not going 1638 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,800 Speaker 1: to get one guy to stand out as a Pro 1639 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,639 Speaker 1: Bowl player. Here's somebody who's taken it to another level 1640 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 1: from Jordan, which Buffalo Bill will make their first Pro 1641 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty nineteen. He says, I'm calling it now. 1642 01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 1: If Kevin Johnson can stay healthy on the field, people 1643 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,919 Speaker 1: are gonna say this was our biggest steal of the offseason. 1644 01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 1: The guy has looked fantastic so far. We'll get he'll 1645 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,559 Speaker 1: get a shot at every opponent's number two wide receiver. 1646 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 1: He'll be in the Pro Bowl with that secondary carrying 1647 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,760 Speaker 1: us to the playoffs. That's one way to look at it. 1648 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: Tredevius White's gonna get the number one guy. And when 1649 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,599 Speaker 1: he got a guy with the physical attributes of Kevin Johnson, 1650 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,679 Speaker 1: if he can stay on the field for sixteen games, 1651 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 1: he does have a shot to make it to make 1652 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,559 Speaker 1: some place. Obviously, with Kevin Johnson's a big if. I'll 1653 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 1: tell you what I think, there's no way Kevin Johnson 1654 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,080 Speaker 1: makes the Pro Bowl. Well, I know because I can't 1655 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 1: see him being the guy to emerge from this secondary. 1656 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many other good players, you know. 1657 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't see Levi Wallace, Terren Johnson, forget about that. 1658 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Even I mean Terren Johnson's a guy who might make 1659 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,599 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. I mean, he had a great rookie year, 1660 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 1: But what scenario plays out in which the Bills are 1661 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 1: good enough that their second corner makes the Pro Bowl. 1662 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 1: You know, now, maybe are you talking about the whole 1663 01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,720 Speaker 1: secondary getting in with the Bills to go fourteen and two? 1664 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 1: I could see that, but you know, and this is 1665 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,439 Speaker 1: no knocker. Kevin Johnson, he's been great this offseason, and 1666 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 1: the twitter is right. If he's healthy, he'll be very 1667 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 1: good in this defense. But you're gonna put him in 1668 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,960 Speaker 1: over Micah Hyde and trade. Here's the thing, here's why 1669 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,640 Speaker 1: it will happen, or if it does happen, here's how 1670 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 1: it will happen. He'll get ten interceptions. That'd be the 1671 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 1: way that you know, they're thrown to the number two 1672 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,600 Speaker 1: guy because Trey's got the other guy covered up, and 1673 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 1: he starts getting these numbers, then he'll get in. He'll 1674 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 1: get he'll get votes from around the league outside of Buffalo. 1675 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,360 Speaker 1: You'll have to be ten though, you know, I don't 1676 01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,720 Speaker 1: even think five. Well even well, if he has if 1677 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 1: he has seven and the nearest next guys three, yeah, 1678 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,880 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. It's one of those years. But yeah, 1679 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,479 Speaker 1: if he if he's got if he's tied for the 1680 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 1: league lead, you know, and these tops in the AFC 1681 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,640 Speaker 1: with interceptions. I think he gets he may get a 1682 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,439 Speaker 1: shot at it if he makes the Pro Bowl. We 1683 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,640 Speaker 1: need to save that tweeter and go find him to 1684 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 1: predict like lottery results and stuff. That's right, That's exactly. 1685 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 1: We also have something else we're going in and this 1686 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 1: is you can chime in if you want to or 1687 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,600 Speaker 1: call us at eight or three oh five fifty or 1688 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,559 Speaker 1: eight to eight two fifty or five fifty two five fifty. 1689 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 1: I've done that twice now, or tweet at us which 1690 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill will have their first Pro Bowl season. This 1691 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,599 Speaker 1: is one thing I want to ask you about. Think 1692 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 1: about the draft and how when you get to the draft, first, second, 1693 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:54,519 Speaker 1: third rounders. You think first rounders got to be immediate starters. 1694 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 1: Second rounders got to be contributors right away. They got 1695 01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 1: to be guys in third rounders maybe contribut beaters, guys 1696 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,160 Speaker 1: certainly make your team become solid pros and maybe give 1697 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 1: you some value down the line, or maybe development guy. 1698 01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,519 Speaker 1: So which and you look at the Bill's roster right now, 1699 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,400 Speaker 1: they got a ton of guys from the first round, 1700 01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,479 Speaker 1: second round, and third round. How would you rate these 1701 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,719 Speaker 1: guys in each round? Who's the best first round draft 1702 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,439 Speaker 1: pick that the Buffalo Bills have on their roster right now, 1703 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,160 Speaker 1: and it's a it's quite a list, ed Oliver, Josh Allen, 1704 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, Tredavious White, Shack Lawson, Kevin Johnson, Star Low two, Lele, 1705 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,639 Speaker 1: and Jerry's Hughes. Right this second, I say, Trey White, 1706 01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 1: I think what he's done the last two years. I mean, 1707 01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,280 Speaker 1: he's as much a lockdown corners you can get in 1708 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 1: this league right now. You know, he's done it right away. 1709 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 1: He's been a guy that you know, teams already throw 1710 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,640 Speaker 1: away from. You know, no knock on Jerry Hughes. I mean, 1711 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 1: we've talked about the fact that he's played very well, 1712 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,320 Speaker 1: and I like a lot we see from Jerry Hughes. 1713 01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 1: But I think Tredavious White is affecting the game, maybe 1714 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,040 Speaker 1: more so than Hugheses. And you know, as good as 1715 01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,920 Speaker 1: Hughes has been, that's a that's I think of a 1716 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, pretty big statement to make. I like White 1717 01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,720 Speaker 1: a lot um I no reason to think that he 1718 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,599 Speaker 1: won't continue to be this good and as young as 1719 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 1: he is too, that might give him a little bit 1720 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 1: of a nod. Now here's another thing too, and I 1721 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,360 Speaker 1: know it's not all about this, but you got Jerry Hughes, 1722 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 1: you got Tradevious White. You also have star Lotulelee and 1723 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 1: this we'll get to this maybe when we get into 1724 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,599 Speaker 1: the third round of guys. Starlo Too Lee signed an 1725 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,040 Speaker 1: enormous contract because he was a sought after free agent. 1726 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,200 Speaker 1: Everybody in the league thought, that's the guy. Now his 1727 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,880 Speaker 1: plays defensive tackle. He's not going to get sack numbers, 1728 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,680 Speaker 1: or historically he's not. You know, Aaron Donald. He's a 1729 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,839 Speaker 1: run stuffer, he's a block. He's an offensive line sponge. 1730 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's sponges those guys up so guys can 1731 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 1: make plays. He does what he's called to do and 1732 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,760 Speaker 1: does it extremely well and is highly paid because of it. 1733 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,240 Speaker 1: Maybe he gets the nod just because of the respect 1734 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 1: he garnered around the league of being you know, people 1735 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,200 Speaker 1: wanted to pay him that kind of money to get 1736 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,400 Speaker 1: him to come play for him. That to me, that's 1737 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,360 Speaker 1: a big fact. As a former player, that's a big factor. 1738 01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,280 Speaker 1: A guy who does his job, a guy who does 1739 01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 1: his job extremely well. And obviously he's not playing quarterback. 1740 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 1: He's not asked to hit the seam down the middle. 1741 01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,920 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's asked to do the physical grow 1742 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,519 Speaker 1: don't work, and he doesn't extremely well. And some of 1743 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,640 Speaker 1: that is genetic because you gotta be a guy like 1744 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,080 Speaker 1: that in there, but also a lot of it is 1745 01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:12,200 Speaker 1: technique and discipline. I think he certainly third on this list. Yeah, 1746 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,800 Speaker 1: he's certainly in the In the conversation, I mean, White 1747 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,880 Speaker 1: I think does all those things. And that's a premier 1748 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,760 Speaker 1: position too. Yes, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I'm not taking 1749 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 1: my rating and adjusting it by a position. It's a 1750 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,200 Speaker 1: fair thing to do to me. I think Trey White 1751 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,600 Speaker 1: is just the best player of this group. Okay, so 1752 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 1: let's go to the second round and you think about it. 1753 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 1: The second round prayer and these are where he started 1754 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,320 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, he's the second round. Cody Ford, of course, 1755 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:40,719 Speaker 1: Zay Jones, Dion Dawkins, Mitch Morse, Jordan Phillips, t J Yeldon, 1756 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:46,439 Speaker 1: Trent Murphy, Vlad Ducas, and Sean Lashawan McCoy. So now 1757 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,040 Speaker 1: you're thinking, Okay, is it today or is it career? 1758 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,040 Speaker 1: You know, I mean Lashan McCoy is you know his 1759 01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 1: career is mccoyl Yeah, it's McCoy all day. If it's career, 1760 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,240 Speaker 1: Mitch Morse just became the highest play highest paid player 1761 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 1: at his position in the league. Everybody wanted him. Dion 1762 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:05,080 Speaker 1: Dawkins is a starting left tackle and has been since 1763 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,639 Speaker 1: his first year. And you know Cody Forwards, A Jones, 1764 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, Zay Jones hasn't really got the production yet. 1765 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 1: Cody Ford, who knows he is even taking a snap? 1766 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,640 Speaker 1: You know, Trent Murphy signed a big deal. You know, 1767 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,080 Speaker 1: these are some pretty good players. Yeah, there's not a 1768 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 1: lot of bus on this list. A good group of 1769 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,479 Speaker 1: second round picks. Not all originally Bills second round picks, 1770 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,120 Speaker 1: but current picks on the Bills are current Bills who 1771 01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,760 Speaker 1: were drafted originally the second round. If we're talking about 1772 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,240 Speaker 1: the best player right now, the guy I want to 1773 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 1: run out the field right now and be the most 1774 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,120 Speaker 1: confident in to me, it's Minch Moores. You know, I 1775 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,400 Speaker 1: think you know, Lashawn McCoy had a down year last year. 1776 01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,439 Speaker 1: I still think he's got one or maybe two more 1777 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,640 Speaker 1: really good years left. I wouldn't be surprised if he 1778 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,240 Speaker 1: bounced back big time this year. But on that list, 1779 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 1: I think Mitch Morris is the guy that I feel 1780 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,160 Speaker 1: the best about. Let's face it, he just signed the 1781 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,200 Speaker 1: big deal. He's he's at the height of his of 1782 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,679 Speaker 1: his popularity. He just you know, he's twenty six years 1783 01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,640 Speaker 1: old through Yeah, he's through his first He's right in 1784 01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 1: the right spot of his career. Uh. Jordan Phillips is 1785 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,840 Speaker 1: the guy who's kind of like that as well. He 1786 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,720 Speaker 1: ran out of steam in Miami because he didn't like 1787 01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,200 Speaker 1: the way he was being used. Uh, their scheme didn't 1788 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:08,760 Speaker 1: fit him, and he was asking me and asked to 1789 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 1: play in a way that didn't suit his skill set. 1790 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:14,200 Speaker 1: Not so here in Buffalo. You know, he came into 1791 01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,679 Speaker 1: Buffalo and and flourished last year in the last half 1792 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,240 Speaker 1: of the season. So and Trent Murphy has hasn't been 1793 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,320 Speaker 1: healthy for two years. We'll see what happens to him. 1794 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 1: But you know, the guy you're looking at it, you're like, 1795 01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,920 Speaker 1: I like vlad Duke coss is probably the guy who's 1796 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,679 Speaker 1: you know, probably not Yeah, the gute bus nine years 1797 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,880 Speaker 1: into his career, right, I mean, good grief. Ye. So yeah, 1798 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,519 Speaker 1: that's still it's a good group of people. As you know, 1799 01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 1: he's going on the get down the list. We got 1800 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:40,640 Speaker 1: quick time for this in the third round. We got 1801 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,439 Speaker 1: another minute or so. Third round draft picks. You've got 1802 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, Dawson Knox, Harrison Phillips, Tyler Croft, Eli Harold, 1803 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:53,920 Speaker 1: who's a defensive end, John Brown, Spencer Long, Andre Roberts, 1804 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,639 Speaker 1: and then you've got the Hammers Frank Gore. So career wise, 1805 01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,559 Speaker 1: this is a Frank Gore's a Hall of Famer exactly. 1806 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 1: So this is not even a third round Hall of Famer. 1807 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,720 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Heck of a pick. Yeah, and it's been 1808 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,920 Speaker 1: around everywhere. To me, the best guy right this second, 1809 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,160 Speaker 1: Andre Roberts. I like him a lot. I think he's 1810 01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,720 Speaker 1: a guy that can change games with a return man um. 1811 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,280 Speaker 1: You know, you can make an argument, I think for 1812 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,920 Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, if you want to play upside ten years 1813 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,040 Speaker 1: in the league, he's pretty good still. Yeah, I mean 1814 01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 1: he was an All Pro last year, So I think 1815 01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,080 Speaker 1: right now, if you'renna talk about the best player on 1816 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,479 Speaker 1: the field, you know, week one among third rounders, I 1817 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,479 Speaker 1: go Andrea Roberts. Yeah, I think I've got to go 1818 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,000 Speaker 1: along with you on that as well. He's been in 1819 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,080 Speaker 1: the league ten years, he was All Pro just you 1820 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:37,200 Speaker 1: know what, six eight months ago. That's not It's not 1821 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,680 Speaker 1: a bad list either, the top three guys, they're Singletary 1822 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 1: Knox and Harrison Phillips. Tyler Croft h he had some 1823 01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: really nice thing that had done some really nice things 1824 01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,360 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, but I was a crowded tight end spot 1825 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,160 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, which is why he was ready to get 1826 01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,360 Speaker 1: out of there. John Brown has bounced around the league 1827 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,760 Speaker 1: a little bit, had some really good years with Arizona, 1828 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 1: and he gets one of the reasons he's here. The 1829 01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 1: Bills took a run at him two years ago. They 1830 01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,200 Speaker 1: wanted to shot at him, couldn't get him, and uh 1831 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,760 Speaker 1: he and here he is back in Buffalo. So that's 1832 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting first, second, third round picks. If who's the 1833 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 1: best one of each of those, that's it's fun to 1834 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 1: talk about that kind of stuff. I like that topic, 1835 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I think that the Bills certainly have 1836 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,559 Speaker 1: a nice group of guys there. You know they've got 1837 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,479 Speaker 1: you look at the the first and second round picks, 1838 01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,320 Speaker 1: especially on this team. You know, these are all guys 1839 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:24,960 Speaker 1: that for the most part, has panned out. There's, like 1840 01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,600 Speaker 1: we said, the only real bust and g made the 1841 01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,200 Speaker 1: point great vlad Dukas. He's been in the league nine years. 1842 01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,320 Speaker 1: I think most teams would sign up for a second 1843 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 1: round pick. Lasting this long, Yeah, ten years is a 1844 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,160 Speaker 1: it's along to the huge career, Oh my gosh. And 1845 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,040 Speaker 1: it's great. And that's really the acid test for a 1846 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 1: lot of players, me included. If you can stay in 1847 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:46,000 Speaker 1: the league a long time, you're doing something right, right exactly. Yeah, 1848 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. Hall. I keep calling you 1849 01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,880 Speaker 1: Thad Hall because the wide receivers coach Brown, Yeah, yeah, 1850 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,720 Speaker 1: Thad Brown. And Fromurth today, Steve Tasker won Bills Live. 1851 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. We're gonna talk continue to talk 1852 01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 1: about which Buffalo Bill player you think is going to 1853 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,840 Speaker 1: go to their first Pro Bowl this season. We've got 1854 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,040 Speaker 1: NFL True false coming up. We're gonna talk about the 1855 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:09,559 Speaker 1: officiating nationwide at every level in every sport. And we'll 1856 01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,519 Speaker 1: also take your tweets and on the tweet deck and 1857 01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,920 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet as well. One Bill's Live presented by 1858 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,040 Speaker 1: Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. We'll be right back, 1859 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:31,680 Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One 1860 01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Steve Tasker along with that Brown. We're talking 1861 01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:38,280 Speaker 1: about the NFL realignment. We're talking about officiating. We're talking 1862 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,160 Speaker 1: about we had a little four way into the NBA 1863 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,719 Speaker 1: Draft and what all that meant. Also, we talked about 1864 01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:49,360 Speaker 1: the AFC East with Matt Chatham of the Athletic in Boston. 1865 01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,000 Speaker 1: We're also having a conversation and we got we got 1866 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,559 Speaker 1: back to this yesterday's Twitter poll about realignment. Where were 1867 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,639 Speaker 1: the bills you know, kind of likely do it. We've 1868 01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:01,840 Speaker 1: got a call on this subject from Zach in Rochester. Zach, 1869 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,320 Speaker 1: you're on the program with Thad and Steve. Go ahead, 1870 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:09,040 Speaker 1: what's on your mind? What's up, gentlemen? What's up? Chatawait? 1871 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,800 Speaker 1: That's up? Zack? How you doing? Man Man? I heard 1872 01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,240 Speaker 1: years ago when they did the alignment, wanted to do 1873 01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,559 Speaker 1: to realignment when Arizona and Dallas is in the same 1874 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,200 Speaker 1: division NFC East, they wanted Buffalo to be in the 1875 01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:26,000 Speaker 1: same division with Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati. So that would 1876 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,640 Speaker 1: make an easier path for the fan basis to go 1877 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 1: see each other and you would at least have four 1878 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 1: or five fell out every game. For example, Pittsburgh fans 1879 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,479 Speaker 1: can't really get to feed their team, so they could 1880 01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,920 Speaker 1: come up here and see them. That's right, makes a 1881 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,200 Speaker 1: lot of sense. What else did you think that should happen. 1882 01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:43,960 Speaker 1: Do you think they do? You think they're gonna realign 1883 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:49,000 Speaker 1: anytime soon and the next five years. Maybe it depends 1884 01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,000 Speaker 1: on how the NFL wants that. If they really would 1885 01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,000 Speaker 1: like to expand and bring somebody like a Toronto in 1886 01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,519 Speaker 1: that's a big market to just have out there. Because 1887 01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,120 Speaker 1: mister Bagoula said he didn't care about the competition, can 1888 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,360 Speaker 1: let them bring it off? Yeah, I got it. And 1889 01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,800 Speaker 1: here's one of the problems though, that the Toronto market 1890 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,600 Speaker 1: doesn't count in the in the American ratings books, so 1891 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,479 Speaker 1: it really doesn't count as any market in the States. 1892 01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,360 Speaker 1: So that's you're kind of a mood point. If you're 1893 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 1: going to talk about television markets, you've got to stick 1894 01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,639 Speaker 1: with the markets that are in the US. Because even 1895 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,000 Speaker 1: and our listeners were listening to us in Canada and 1896 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,439 Speaker 1: then when they switched over to the radio dot com app, 1897 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,360 Speaker 1: you can't get that in Canada, and they, you know, 1898 01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 1: they got some pushback forward. So um, it's it's a 1899 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,040 Speaker 1: different world when you start crossing international borders. So that 1900 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,679 Speaker 1: that kind of throws a wrench into the expansion into Canada. 1901 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,519 Speaker 1: I think I don't I'm not looking at Canada as 1902 01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:42,519 Speaker 1: the most likely target. Let's be real, where does the 1903 01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,400 Speaker 1: NFL want to go next. It's probably England. That's probably London. Yeah, London, 1904 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,040 Speaker 1: that's what That's the goal. That's the maybe the pie 1905 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 1: in the sky goal, but that's the goal. So that's 1906 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 1: why you talk about any realignment. I don't know if 1907 01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,439 Speaker 1: the league wants to get into rearranging their American cities 1908 01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,600 Speaker 1: when they have you know, their eyes are big now 1909 01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,400 Speaker 1: with other places to try and you know, generate NFL revenue, 1910 01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,800 Speaker 1: NFL fans, And to me, I still think London's number one. Yeah, thanks, Zach. 1911 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate that call. And you're right, I mean, there 1912 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,400 Speaker 1: is you know, when they do this stuff sometimes you're like, 1913 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,120 Speaker 1: who decides, you know, and it's and it's basically the 1914 01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,320 Speaker 1: thirty two guys that are the ownership group that that 1915 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,519 Speaker 1: do it. And I think people understand that, I mean 1916 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,360 Speaker 1: really that that is that is who runs the league. 1917 01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it sounds simple to say, but 1918 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,320 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not necessarily Roger Goodell. It's not 1919 01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, anybody who is uh, you know, working in 1920 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,479 Speaker 1: the NFL office. It is the thirty two owners. They 1921 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,600 Speaker 1: make the rules, they approve the rules, they you know, 1922 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 1: approve new franchises, new places to go, and the goal, 1923 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,400 Speaker 1: this is a business, the goals to make money. You know, 1924 01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,200 Speaker 1: that's what the priority is for the NFL. And you 1925 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,640 Speaker 1: talk about making money, sometimes it's hard to even and 1926 01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 1: keep some of these franchises and others. You know, it's 1927 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:46,840 Speaker 1: not a problem in the NFL, but in some of 1928 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:48,760 Speaker 1: the other sports, it's hard to keep these franchises alive. 1929 01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,920 Speaker 1: We've got some fresh news coming out about the Tampa 1930 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 1: Bay Rays. We're going to talk about this at the 1931 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 1: top of the hour, exploring ways to maybe go back 1932 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 1: and play in Montreal. They remember Montreal lost their team, 1933 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,160 Speaker 1: it became the Washington Nationals. Now the Tampa Bay Rays 1934 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,680 Speaker 1: want to split time between Tampa Bay and Montreal, and 1935 01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,640 Speaker 1: that may happen. I can't imagine Baseball's authorized this. We're 1936 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the top of the hour. But the 1937 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,040 Speaker 1: simple truth thing is the Raise are thinking about playing 1938 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,080 Speaker 1: half their games in Montreal. Mix and if you want 1939 01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,080 Speaker 1: to chime in, we're also talking about which Buffalo Bill's 1940 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,519 Speaker 1: player will make their first Pro Bowl in twenty nineteen. 1941 01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,920 Speaker 1: Sixty one percent of a respondent said, said Turnavious White's 1942 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,920 Speaker 1: the guy fifteen percent think Tremaine Edmonds is gonna do it, 1943 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,080 Speaker 1: and twelve percent say Josh Allen, and also twelve percent 1944 01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,400 Speaker 1: say Jerry Hughes. You can take your pick. You can 1945 01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,840 Speaker 1: call us at eight oh three oh five fifty or 1946 01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,320 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight two fifty five fifty two five 1947 01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,240 Speaker 1: fifty if you want to get on this conversation as well, 1948 01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,240 Speaker 1: or you can tweet as if phone lines are open, 1949 01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,000 Speaker 1: you can give us a call and I'll try to 1950 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:47,360 Speaker 1: figure out how to work their phone lines. ALTHO two 1951 01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,120 Speaker 1: so far ye one eight eight eight five fifty two 1952 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 1: five fifty or eighty three five fifty in the Buffalo area. 1953 01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,519 Speaker 1: Now you know we we have really said. I mean 1954 01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,840 Speaker 1: you've thought that, and you've said, I guess, have you 1955 01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,120 Speaker 1: really picked one today? White is your guy? Right? You 1956 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,040 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be the guy? No, I think Edmonds 1957 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,800 Speaker 1: has the best chance just because of who's available at 1958 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,720 Speaker 1: that position. I think a linebackers got a better shot. 1959 01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's a good thing you had to 1960 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,360 Speaker 1: think too, if you're thinking of that. These guys Jerry 1961 01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,000 Speaker 1: Hughes an edge rusher, to Davis White a cornerback, Tomaine 1962 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,519 Speaker 1: Edmunds middle linebacker, and of course, Josh Allen the quarterback. 1963 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,320 Speaker 1: How tough is it to make the Pro Bowl? Get 1964 01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:21,280 Speaker 1: voted in by fans around the It's got to be 1965 01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,840 Speaker 1: around the country. I mean, you're not gonna do it, 1966 01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,800 Speaker 1: just says the Buffalo guy. How tough is it to 1967 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,000 Speaker 1: break into the AFC quarterback roster for the Pro Bowl? 1968 01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:31,519 Speaker 1: I think either one is pretty tough. I mean, you 1969 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,840 Speaker 1: got Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers in the NFC right now, 1970 01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,080 Speaker 1: and Drew Brees. How do you break into that threesome? 1971 01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,880 Speaker 1: But the AFC, you know, Pat Mahomes, you know, makes 1972 01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:40,400 Speaker 1: it really hard because he looks like a guy that's 1973 01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna make the next fifteen Pro Bowl. Ben Roethlisberger through 1974 01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,080 Speaker 1: for five thousand yards last year and was an afterthought 1975 01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,840 Speaker 1: more or less. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, Josh Allen's got 1976 01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean again, I don't think he's probably even the 1977 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,160 Speaker 1: second best quarterback in his own division right this second. 1978 01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,840 Speaker 1: I thought Sam Donald's great, but both people probably rate 1979 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,360 Speaker 1: Donald a touch above Allen. Right, right, that's exactly right. Right, 1980 01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:58,720 Speaker 1: We got more to talk about at the top of 1981 01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,280 Speaker 1: the hour. Steve Tasker and that Brown in from RTH 1982 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,960 Speaker 1: today we're gonna talk about officiating, and also some of 1983 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,360 Speaker 1: this stuff about the Tampa Bay Rays playing in Montreal. 1984 01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,040 Speaker 1: Crazy stuff. One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health from 1985 01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:20,880 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello 1986 01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:27,360 Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Stories date, the NFL Competition Committee unanimously 1987 01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,439 Speaker 1: recommended the rule approved in March for instant replay of 1988 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:34,400 Speaker 1: pass interference remain in effect for the twenty nineteen season only. 1989 01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,799 Speaker 1: The league points out that the standard for initiating automatic 1990 01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,479 Speaker 1: review will be much higher for pass interference calls and 1991 01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:44,120 Speaker 1: non calls than for other reviewable plays, in an effort 1992 01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:48,400 Speaker 1: to avoid excessive stoppages. The Bisons beat the Indianapolis Indians 1993 01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,519 Speaker 1: six to three last night at Salean's Field. The Herd 1994 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,760 Speaker 1: hosts Indie this afternoon in a game the first pitch 1995 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,880 Speaker 1: was at one oh five. And in Major League Baseball, 1996 01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,799 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Rays received permission from Major League Baseball's 1997 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:04,120 Speaker 1: Executive Council to explore a plan in which they would 1998 01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:07,160 Speaker 1: play early season home games in the Tampa Bay area 1999 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,960 Speaker 1: and the remainder of the year in Montreal. While the 2000 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,799 Speaker 1: plan is in its early stages, the Rays have embraced 2001 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:17,200 Speaker 1: the two city solution as the most feasible to saving 2002 01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:21,240 Speaker 1: baseball in the Tampa Bay area. It was announced yesterday 2003 01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:24,040 Speaker 1: that the Canadians will host the twenty twenty NHL Draft, 2004 01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,000 Speaker 1: making Montreal the site of the event for the twenty 2005 01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,080 Speaker 1: seventh time, the first time since two thousand and nine. 2006 01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:33,800 Speaker 1: The twenty twenty draft will be held over two days, 2007 01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,840 Speaker 1: Friday in June twenty sixth and Saturday June twenty seventh. 2008 01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:41,479 Speaker 1: Speaking of the draft, the twenty nineteen NHL Draft begins 2009 01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,720 Speaker 1: tomorrow in Vancouver. You can watch the draft with the 2010 01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,160 Speaker 1: Instigators at seven one six Food and Sports starting at 2011 01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:49,080 Speaker 1: six thirty pm, and there will be an autographed Sabers Prizes, 2012 01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:54,280 Speaker 1: limited edition Instigators merchandise, and untold Draft stories from Sabers Legends. 2013 01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,599 Speaker 1: For more details, check out at the Instigators on Twitter. 2014 01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 1: Also fun facts, Today's national day is It's National Vanilla 2015 01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:06,960 Speaker 1: Milkshake Day, National Ice Cream Soda Day, It's National Hike 2016 01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:11,960 Speaker 1: with a Geek Day, and National American Bald Eagle Day. 2017 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,679 Speaker 1: Also born today, Lionel Richie's seventy, Nicole Kidman is fifty 2018 01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,560 Speaker 1: two and John Goodman is sixty seven, and on this 2019 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:22,360 Speaker 1: day in nineteen eighty and nineteen seventy five, Jaws was 2020 01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:24,760 Speaker 1: released as a movie. So what does that make it 2021 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,120 Speaker 1: a twenty five almost forty five years old long, that's 2022 01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:31,400 Speaker 1: very old. I'm too afraid to watch that movie. Very old. That. Yeah. 2023 01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:33,479 Speaker 1: I tossed my popcorn a couple of times in that 2024 01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,720 Speaker 1: movie when they yeah, yeah, you don't want to get 2025 01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:39,719 Speaker 1: into it. Probably now a great movie. No, there's some spot. 2026 01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,920 Speaker 1: There's a spot in that movie that is that is 2027 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,200 Speaker 1: absolutely startling in it. You know they do that sometimes. 2028 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,160 Speaker 1: There's there's different kinds of suspense in movies. Right. There's 2029 01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:50,680 Speaker 1: the kind where guys you hope that oh they're gonna oh, 2030 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,960 Speaker 1: because you know what's gonna happen, right, you think, oh 2031 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,200 Speaker 1: my gosh. And the suspense it's the suspense of it. 2032 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,280 Speaker 1: Then there's other times where you know, something jumps out 2033 01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:02,160 Speaker 1: at you. It's like, uh, that's that's the Jaws thing. Yes, 2034 01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,559 Speaker 1: when they find that coming up, it's early in the movie. 2035 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,840 Speaker 1: They think there's a shark out there. The first shark 2036 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,519 Speaker 1: reveals no, no, no, the shark never shows up in 2037 01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,960 Speaker 1: this one. They go down and there's this boat that's 2038 01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:20,160 Speaker 1: half sunk, and I think Cooper's his name. Richard Dreyfuss 2039 01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,160 Speaker 1: gets into the water as a diver, and he and there, 2040 01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,519 Speaker 1: sure enough, there's a whole bitten out of the bottom 2041 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,559 Speaker 1: of this boat. Right. So he reaches up and there's something. 2042 01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,240 Speaker 1: So he pulls out and there's this enormous shark tooth 2043 01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,719 Speaker 1: stuck in this boat and he's got eat down. There's 2044 01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:35,000 Speaker 1: pitch black, right, it's dark. They're at night. You're you know, 2045 01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:39,519 Speaker 1: scuba diving at night, which is spooky to begin with, right, 2046 01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:44,360 Speaker 1: And then something comes bouncing out of the bottom of that, 2047 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:45,560 Speaker 1: but I don't want to tell you what it is. 2048 01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,680 Speaker 1: I love that this movie Popcorn went everywhere. This movie 2049 01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,840 Speaker 1: is forty five years old. I'm probably the only person 2050 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:53,920 Speaker 1: paying attention to the show who has not seen it, 2051 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:55,720 Speaker 1: and you're telling to me gets the brand new and 2052 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to see it. Popcorn everywhere? Yeah, 2053 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:03,360 Speaker 1: oh my, it was yep, yep. What were theaters like 2054 01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,160 Speaker 1: in nine seventy five, Steve cleaner than they are in 2055 01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,920 Speaker 1: two thousand? Really? Him teas, I don't know, I don't know, 2056 01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. They're the exact same. They haven't changed. 2057 01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,040 Speaker 1: This is one of the ones. Well they have changed. 2058 01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:18,360 Speaker 1: This is an old time theater, two aisles side and 2059 01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, big center section and aisles on the side. 2060 01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:22,679 Speaker 1: So it wasn't one of those boxing ones now where 2061 01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,439 Speaker 1: they just have enough that they're gonna sell the ticket. 2062 01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:26,040 Speaker 1: You know, I had two hundred seats. This was like 2063 01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,680 Speaker 1: a six hundred seat theater. It's a big one one 2064 01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:31,360 Speaker 1: in town. You go to it, everybody goes to it. 2065 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,040 Speaker 1: And that's where you see you don't get it. And 2066 01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:35,200 Speaker 1: it was the It was the movie that was showing right. 2067 01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,919 Speaker 1: It wasn't like one of a ross still a newsreel 2068 01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,960 Speaker 1: before the movie. Come come on, bro, now you're getting crazy. 2069 01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,679 Speaker 1: It wasn't nice. It wasn't like World World War two. 2070 01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, no, that wasn't like that. Steve Tasker, 2071 01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:55,720 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Long Chad Brown and from RTH today, a 2072 01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,000 Speaker 1: lot going on. We've been talking about realignment, we've been 2073 01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:00,840 Speaker 1: talking about which Buffalo bill is going to to have 2074 01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:05,000 Speaker 1: their first Pro Bowl season this year. We've got some 2075 01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,240 Speaker 1: feedback from it throughout the show. We haven't got to 2076 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,439 Speaker 1: it much because we am talking about so many different things. 2077 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:14,360 Speaker 1: But from t wass Uh, she says Jerry Hughes, he 2078 01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,960 Speaker 1: was also consistently held and it was very rarely called. 2079 01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,040 Speaker 1: So he thinks Jerry Hughes is up against he has 2080 01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,679 Speaker 1: a lot more help and this will be an awesome 2081 01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,840 Speaker 1: season for Jerry Hughes. Um. He thinks Jerry Hughes is 2082 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,320 Speaker 1: gonna get some help from guys like Ed Oliver. I 2083 01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,880 Speaker 1: love that, Trent Murphy and those guys. Trent Murphy's gonna 2084 01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,519 Speaker 1: take a step forward because he's gonna be healthier and 2085 01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,400 Speaker 1: start off with a bang this year. The defense is 2086 01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:39,040 Speaker 1: gonna be better. You know, even the guys on the 2087 01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,560 Speaker 1: outside are gonna gonna help better. Jerry Hughes was not 2088 01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:43,200 Speaker 1: held that much last year. He was held as much 2089 01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,720 Speaker 1: an that's the way it goes, I know, I get it. Yeah, 2090 01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,040 Speaker 1: and that listen, you gotta watch how much you think 2091 01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,400 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack was held last year. Yeah, right, so that's 2092 01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,240 Speaker 1: the way it goes. But yeah, he's right, And Jerry 2093 01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,280 Speaker 1: Hughes was effective last year. And you're you know, he 2094 01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,560 Speaker 1: didn't get all those sacks and all of that, but 2095 01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,360 Speaker 1: he was effective. And you're right. He may go to 2096 01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl this year. And you know both ways too. 2097 01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:04,559 Speaker 1: He's effective against the past, really good against the run. 2098 01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought when he came to Buffalo, his 2099 01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,120 Speaker 1: defense against the run was you know, below average, and 2100 01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,560 Speaker 1: he has gotten so much better. I mean he's you know, 2101 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,400 Speaker 1: he's one of the better run defenders in the league 2102 01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,599 Speaker 1: from that position in my opinion. Yeah, Thad Brown along 2103 01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:17,880 Speaker 1: with Steve Tasker One Bills live at One Bill's Drive. 2104 01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,400 Speaker 1: You're in today for Murph and it's been fun having 2105 01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:22,600 Speaker 1: We've been talking about a bunch of stuff and we 2106 01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,760 Speaker 1: had this thing come across. This broke during the show 2107 01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:29,000 Speaker 1: like twenty minutes ago. Yeah, that they Tampa Bay Rays, 2108 01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,960 Speaker 1: the major League baseball team. They've received permission from Major 2109 01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:35,200 Speaker 1: League Baseball's Executive Counsel to explore a plan where they're 2110 01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:38,559 Speaker 1: gonna play early season games in Tampa and then moved 2111 01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,240 Speaker 1: to Montreal and play late season games there. Yeah, because 2112 01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,680 Speaker 1: they need a dome in Tampa because it's too hot, right. 2113 01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,960 Speaker 1: So the idea here is Tampa for years has been 2114 01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,120 Speaker 1: trying to get a stadium built. The Rays have trying 2115 01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,920 Speaker 1: to get contentious exactly because no one wants to pay 2116 01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,240 Speaker 1: the money for a team that really nobody wants to follow. 2117 01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,080 Speaker 1: It's a retiree city. Yeah, you know, nobody wants to Yeah, 2118 01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:58,200 Speaker 1: like you said, people don't want to go to a 2119 01:38:58,200 --> 01:38:59,840 Speaker 1: baseball game. They want to do whatever they want to do. 2120 01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,639 Speaker 1: So the idea of this is you can then build 2121 01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,000 Speaker 1: an open air stadium that you only need for April 2122 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,960 Speaker 1: and May when it's not that hot out expensive exactly, 2123 01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,400 Speaker 1: and then you go to Montreal and you play the 2124 01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:12,920 Speaker 1: rest of your games there because you don't want to 2125 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:16,919 Speaker 1: use that hot stadium anymore. To me, the nefarious cynical 2126 01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,000 Speaker 1: view of this is Major League Baseball wants this team 2127 01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:22,599 Speaker 1: in a new stadium somewhere. So you put this plan 2128 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,240 Speaker 1: out that we're gonna look at both city We're gon 2129 01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna play in both cities. We're gonna do this. 2130 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,439 Speaker 1: If you get one stadium in either place, then it's 2131 01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,760 Speaker 1: a win for baseball. To me, there's no way that 2132 01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:34,519 Speaker 1: we're gonna sit with a franchise in a Big four 2133 01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:37,760 Speaker 1: sport and have them play thirty home games in one 2134 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,920 Speaker 1: city and then move four thousand miles to a different 2135 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:43,559 Speaker 1: country to play the other home games. And as it's 2136 01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:45,519 Speaker 1: brought up in this story, where are the playoff games 2137 01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 1: going to be? What we're gonna call this team the 2138 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,760 Speaker 1: Tampa Real canadi Rays. I mean, this is a joke. 2139 01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,160 Speaker 1: This is an embarrassment, and I think the only reason 2140 01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,080 Speaker 1: Baseball is allowing themselves to get involved in this is 2141 01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,880 Speaker 1: because the hope is if we look like we're interested 2142 01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:02,320 Speaker 1: in Montreal, abe, it'll finally push Tampa to build a stadium. 2143 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,240 Speaker 1: And if not, maybe if we give old taste, yeah, 2144 01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:07,320 Speaker 1: well maybe that's in the realm too at some point. 2145 01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:11,320 Speaker 1: But if we give Montreal a taste a possibility that, hey, 2146 01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:13,519 Speaker 1: we might if you guys build a stay in Fort Tampa, 2147 01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:15,880 Speaker 1: does you could just take the team all yourselves. Yeah, 2148 01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:18,519 Speaker 1: there's more in this story, says First. More than a decade, 2149 01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,680 Speaker 1: the Rays have sought to build a new stadium in 2150 01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:23,600 Speaker 1: Tampa or Saint Petersburg, Florida, where they currently play at 2151 01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:27,000 Speaker 1: Tropicana Field. Their lease runs through twenty twenty seven, and 2152 01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:31,160 Speaker 1: a Tampa Bay Montreal dual city plan would necessitate finding 2153 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:34,120 Speaker 1: a stadium site in Florida as well after that goes on. 2154 01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,160 Speaker 1: After that lease runs out, the timetable for any potential 2155 01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,160 Speaker 1: move likely depends on whether the race can strike a 2156 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:42,360 Speaker 1: deal in Tampa Bay area for a new stadium. Now, 2157 01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:46,519 Speaker 1: the average attendance is fourteen thousand, five hundred a little 2158 01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:48,320 Speaker 1: more and this is very good team too. I mean 2159 01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,519 Speaker 1: this is the second lowest in the Major League Baseball. 2160 01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:53,679 Speaker 1: This is a team right now that's in the playoff race, 2161 01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,200 Speaker 1: that's you know, competing with the Yankees for the division lead. 2162 01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:58,320 Speaker 1: Obviously Boston will be back in the race later, but 2163 01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,320 Speaker 1: have historically, maybe not last five years, but have historically 2164 01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:04,320 Speaker 1: been you know, more successful than not. So we're off 2165 01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:07,640 Speaker 1: games over five hundred games. We're not talking about some 2166 01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:09,599 Speaker 1: team that hasn't made the playoffs in twenty five years. 2167 01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,519 Speaker 1: This is a team that you know generally is pretty good. Yeah. 2168 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:14,559 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, and we've also heard this number. 2169 01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,519 Speaker 1: I'm here in Buffalo. Were probably a sensitive to these 2170 01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,559 Speaker 1: numbers as anybody. They're opening day pay roll of sixty 2171 01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,960 Speaker 1: five million was among the lowest. The difficulty in securing 2172 01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:27,400 Speaker 1: a new stadium, no local revenue, a poor local television deal. 2173 01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:30,400 Speaker 1: The Rays have been seen by other cities as a 2174 01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:35,200 Speaker 1: target for relocation, a possibility should that should this plan fail. 2175 01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,840 Speaker 1: So other cities are probably standing in line saying, when 2176 01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:41,679 Speaker 1: you get a major league city in Columbus, yeah, Ohio, 2177 01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:44,960 Speaker 1: or or Buffalo, Buffalo, or yeah, whatever you name it, 2178 01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, to me, this plan Buffalo know this story. 2179 01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:52,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I mean this plan from Baseball is 2180 01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:56,320 Speaker 1: so ridiculous looking that there's no way they would improve it. 2181 01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:58,960 Speaker 1: I'll prove it unless there was some sort of you know, 2182 01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,040 Speaker 1: carried at the end they felt was worth it. And 2183 01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,559 Speaker 1: to me, you know, having this franchise in a stable 2184 01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:08,040 Speaker 1: stadium situation, whether it's Montreal or Tampa or like you said, 2185 01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,960 Speaker 1: in the third city, is the only reason why Baseball 2186 01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:13,439 Speaker 1: would approved this. This isn't just Tampa's idea. We're going 2187 01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:15,160 Speaker 1: to throw this out and see what happens. This has 2188 01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:18,639 Speaker 1: now gotten the rubber stamp of approval from Major League Baseball. 2189 01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,720 Speaker 1: And again, it's been such a joke the way this 2190 01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:25,360 Speaker 1: team has been, you know, followed or not followed, as 2191 01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:28,479 Speaker 1: successful they've been over the years that the only way 2192 01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,000 Speaker 1: Baseball is on board with this is if they think 2193 01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:31,400 Speaker 1: they can get something out of it at the end 2194 01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:33,519 Speaker 1: that benefits them and the other we talk about with 2195 01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,280 Speaker 1: the NFL, the owner is making money, so not for 2196 01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:40,120 Speaker 1: nothing but the world in which we live. The Twitter 2197 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:43,400 Speaker 1: got hold of the two city yes, the two city 2198 01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:47,280 Speaker 1: option that the razor gard and so now everybody's climbing 2199 01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:49,639 Speaker 1: on you know, climbing on board trash and everybody else 2200 01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,759 Speaker 1: like you know, the razor. It's so bad in Tampa 2201 01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,479 Speaker 1: Bay they have to move. So now breaking this from 2202 01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,160 Speaker 1: justin Pan, this is the Chicago Bulls have received NBA's 2203 01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,840 Speaker 1: permission to explore becoming a two team, a two league 2204 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,840 Speaker 1: team the NBA and G League. According to sources, the 2205 01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,320 Speaker 1: plan play early season games in the NBA and finish 2206 01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,880 Speaker 1: the season in the G League. My callumn is next. 2207 01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:10,720 Speaker 1: That's a joke. They're not gonna do that. But now 2208 01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,680 Speaker 1: everybody's piling on this thing, like you know, now a 2209 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:17,960 Speaker 1: bad team. It just underscores how stupid it looks. I mean, 2210 01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:21,080 Speaker 1: it looks I can't believe. You know, well, I guess 2211 01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:23,360 Speaker 1: I can believe because because of how bad the situation 2212 01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,040 Speaker 1: has been in Tampa and because of what Baseball probably 2213 01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,040 Speaker 1: feels like the payoff could be if they end up 2214 01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:29,960 Speaker 1: with the stadium out of this place. It's not crazy 2215 01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:33,400 Speaker 1: too beca This is an under headline. It's easy. It's 2216 01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,639 Speaker 1: easy for people to like, you know, poo poo, like haha, 2217 01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:40,559 Speaker 1: this is never having listen. The Green Bay Packers played 2218 01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:44,360 Speaker 1: four games a year in in in Milwaukee and four 2219 01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,080 Speaker 1: games in Green Bay because they're for a long time 2220 01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,800 Speaker 1: that franchise could not win. They were the ownership was 2221 01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:52,719 Speaker 1: kind of a mess. It was it was publicly owned, 2222 01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's a different animal. And finally they got 2223 01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:58,720 Speaker 1: that under control and they got a you know, some 2224 01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:00,560 Speaker 1: guys in there that know how to run football, and 2225 01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,240 Speaker 1: they started doing it the right way and spending the 2226 01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:03,800 Speaker 1: money right way and putting the money in the right 2227 01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:07,320 Speaker 1: places and doing things like an NFL team would with 2228 01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:10,840 Speaker 1: a regular owner. And now they play in Lambeau and 2229 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,080 Speaker 1: they flourished. It's mecca now. It's a mecca now. And 2230 01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:17,320 Speaker 1: now it's like this destination that they've got this stadium 2231 01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:21,240 Speaker 1: where you know, people who eat cheese curds go there 2232 01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,120 Speaker 1: to get a tour, right, I mean, that's that's basically. 2233 01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,160 Speaker 1: It was a local, legendary place. The Bills went there 2234 01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:27,120 Speaker 1: last year and I busied the stadium on a Friday, 2235 01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,479 Speaker 1: and as I'm standing there, they're running a tour throughout 2236 01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,519 Speaker 1: the half hour people and they've got they've got photo 2237 01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 1: of stations with statues, Vince's statue, Vince Lombardi statue, and 2238 01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,360 Speaker 1: then you know the fans there, the statue there for 2239 01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,639 Speaker 1: the fans that you can take pictures with. That's pretty neat. 2240 01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:43,880 Speaker 1: It's really cool place. But it took them a while 2241 01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,920 Speaker 1: to get there. They played in Milwaukee and for a 2242 01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:50,240 Speaker 1: long time I played there against the Packers and it 2243 01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,920 Speaker 1: was like the Canadian Football League. You had both teams 2244 01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:56,240 Speaker 1: on the same sideline because they were were standing in 2245 01:44:56,320 --> 01:45:00,559 Speaker 1: center field, right. Yeah, it was weird county stadiumhere the yeah, 2246 01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,080 Speaker 1: and that's you know, so you can put your nose 2247 01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:07,920 Speaker 1: down in Major League Baseball. But this isn't unprecedented, no, 2248 01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:11,040 Speaker 1: but maybe in this era it's unprecedented. I mean, this 2249 01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,559 Speaker 1: is the year of you know, everybody's got a local 2250 01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,479 Speaker 1: TV deal, especially when it's baseball that makes millions upon millions. 2251 01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:18,800 Speaker 1: The NFL has a you know, national TV revenue that 2252 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,280 Speaker 1: you should not have to do this, you could and listen, 2253 01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,360 Speaker 1: think about it. We're not that far away from it 2254 01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,800 Speaker 1: where the Vegas Raiders would have been playing, and you 2255 01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:32,559 Speaker 1: got the Chargers playing in StubHub right right. So if 2256 01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:38,760 Speaker 1: they had gotten a better deal in whatever Sacramento, Sacramento, 2257 01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:42,320 Speaker 1: or if or Denver or Arizona, if they'd have played 2258 01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:45,000 Speaker 1: their home games in Arizona and worked the schedule, they 2259 01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,960 Speaker 1: would have you think the Raiders wouldn't have done that. 2260 01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,479 Speaker 1: They do anything right, they would if they could have 2261 01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,799 Speaker 1: been playing their games like half the year in Oakland 2262 01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:55,680 Speaker 1: and half the year in Arizona, or half the year 2263 01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,160 Speaker 1: in Denver, half the year in Kansas City and played 2264 01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:02,080 Speaker 1: their home games there. It's impossible. But it's a financial 2265 01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,559 Speaker 1: and a logistical problem. Not not not this. The Raiders 2266 01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:06,880 Speaker 1: are doing that because they don't have a building right 2267 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:10,000 Speaker 1: now exactly, you know, exactly, but it's still an it's 2268 01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,280 Speaker 1: still a stadium issue, right well, Minnesota playing their college 2269 01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,160 Speaker 1: stadium for two years waiting for their building to get built. 2270 01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,519 Speaker 1: I mean, but so did Chicago Exactly. At least both 2271 01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,000 Speaker 1: of those times, there was a carrot at the end, 2272 01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:21,880 Speaker 1: this is, hey, we're gonna see how this goes, and 2273 01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,240 Speaker 1: exactly there's no safety net right now. No. No. So 2274 01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:30,080 Speaker 1: that's that's interesting because it is something that happens in 2275 01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:34,120 Speaker 1: the current universe of professional sports in the United States, 2276 01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:37,560 Speaker 1: where you get these stadiums that that can't compete or 2277 01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 1: there's something wrong with them. I don't know what's wrong 2278 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,200 Speaker 1: with the raised stadium, whether it's are they in the 2279 01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:48,120 Speaker 1: same stadium with the Dolphins. No, No, Miami the Bucks. No, No, 2280 01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:51,000 Speaker 1: they got their own stadium. Tropicana is its own facility. Yeah, 2281 01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:54,360 Speaker 1: so all they needs a roof, well they basically one. 2282 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:58,719 Speaker 1: Well that what the problem. The issue they can't draw fans. 2283 01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:00,760 Speaker 1: I just don't. I think the first of all, you 2284 01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,439 Speaker 1: don't have a base of Tampa Bay people who want 2285 01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:05,960 Speaker 1: to support the local team. They're all transplants. They come 2286 01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:08,400 Speaker 1: down there. They're Yankee, Red Sox, Mets fans, you know 2287 01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,360 Speaker 1: for the most part. So you're not building a fan 2288 01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:12,120 Speaker 1: put a team there in the first place, because they 2289 01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,400 Speaker 1: thought they did. Steinbrenner wanted a team, right, they thought there, 2290 01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:17,439 Speaker 1: they thought they would add attract fans because there's so 2291 01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:19,519 Speaker 1: many baseball fans down there, But they're baseball fans, they're 2292 01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,960 Speaker 1: not Tampa Rays fans. The stadium itself is to put it, 2293 01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:25,559 Speaker 1: you know nicely, you know, mundane, I think it's probably 2294 01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,840 Speaker 1: it's just nothing. It's it's a building with a roof, 2295 01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,639 Speaker 1: and you know, it's basically turf. You can get balls 2296 01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:32,400 Speaker 1: hit into the ceiling that bounce off of there, that 2297 01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,760 Speaker 1: are in play. It's just it's it's kind of it's 2298 01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:37,360 Speaker 1: kind of like putting football in the Rodgers Center in 2299 01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:40,200 Speaker 1: Toronto just doesn't work. And you put those two things 2300 01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,160 Speaker 1: together in a league where you know you're if you 2301 01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,519 Speaker 1: only have sixty five million a payroll, then you're starting 2302 01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:47,600 Speaker 1: with two arms tied behind your back compared to the 2303 01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,719 Speaker 1: Yankees and Red Sox, and makes it difficult to build 2304 01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,280 Speaker 1: a product that's attractive, right, And that's and that's basically 2305 01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,200 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. So now they're going to relocate probably, well, 2306 01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean sooner or later. A new stadiums can attract 2307 01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,880 Speaker 1: people that aren't interested in the first place. If you're 2308 01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,000 Speaker 1: right about that, they probably are eventually going to relocate. 2309 01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:05,599 Speaker 1: When you really want to play this out to the end, 2310 01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, if Tampa hasn't built a stadium in ten years, 2311 01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,599 Speaker 1: I don't know why this gambit is gonna suddenly produce 2312 01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:13,120 Speaker 1: a stadium for baseball in Tampa. There's just just this 2313 01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:15,840 Speaker 1: is just fuel to start the conversation again for a 2314 01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:17,760 Speaker 1: new stadium. Well, that's what it is. At the end 2315 01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,720 Speaker 1: of the day, they're trying to find someone to be 2316 01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:22,280 Speaker 1: out of there. They got to leave from where they 2317 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,160 Speaker 1: gonna go. That's the Montreal I mean, Montreal I think 2318 01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:26,720 Speaker 1: has a desire to have baseball, but some of the 2319 01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,240 Speaker 1: guys involved with the two team with the two city 2320 01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:33,760 Speaker 1: scenario for the Tampa Bay Rays are the original owners 2321 01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,080 Speaker 1: that the family of the original owners of the Expos 2322 01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:41,200 Speaker 1: almost see there, there you go. But that's the way 2323 01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:43,080 Speaker 1: it goes. So that's what you're talking about. You're talking 2324 01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,720 Speaker 1: about people who know what Montreal baseball looked like the 2325 01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:47,720 Speaker 1: first time around, and why it was a problem or 2326 01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,920 Speaker 1: what the problems were, and if they can address those problems, 2327 01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,599 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're thinking about putting a new stadium in Montreal. 2328 01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:56,799 Speaker 1: Too buttive for this relative to Tampa's problems, the problems 2329 01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,160 Speaker 1: they head with Montreal years ago probably look, you know, 2330 01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:03,320 Speaker 1: much more Tolera Bowl. Maybe baseball is a different animal. 2331 01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,280 Speaker 1: Thirty five. Sure, And you think to Montreal, the old 2332 01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:09,639 Speaker 1: expost Olympic Stadium, you'd seen that that thing was terrible. 2333 01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:12,599 Speaker 1: It was worse than Cleveland Stadium. The old stadium, Yeah, 2334 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,519 Speaker 1: it was like four miles across my my. My bar 2335 01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,920 Speaker 1: for a worst stadium is somewhere between the old the 2336 01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,360 Speaker 1: old Patriots Stadium and the current Sullivan Stan Sullivan Stadium 2337 01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:25,280 Speaker 1: was terrible, but the current Raiders the Olkland Colisseum is 2338 01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:28,640 Speaker 1: easily the worst building I've been in. I mean you 2339 01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,679 Speaker 1: you probably got Yeah, I can think of these Cleveland 2340 01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,120 Speaker 1: stadium you were in those thirty years ago, you know, 2341 01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:37,240 Speaker 1: before they were you know Wi Fi, you know screens, 2342 01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,599 Speaker 1: and let me tell you them. The Houston Astrodome, which 2343 01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:41,240 Speaker 1: was the eighth one of the world, was no picnic. 2344 01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah for football. That's still up you know by the way, 2345 01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,599 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they use it for you know, rodeos, right yeah, 2346 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:49,240 Speaker 1: and Motle Cross and all of that. I've been able 2347 01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:50,880 Speaker 1: to look inside because it's right next to where the 2348 01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,880 Speaker 1: Texas was about. Like, I mean, it looked it looks 2349 01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:57,320 Speaker 1: like no, it looks like a stadium from an apocalyptic 2350 01:49:57,439 --> 01:49:59,479 Speaker 1: movie where no one's been in it for twenty years 2351 01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:02,000 Speaker 1: and there's like vines growing through the seats and stuff. 2352 01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,559 Speaker 1: It just you know, looks unkept. You know, you said 2353 01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:07,320 Speaker 1: you remember too, there was listen when those places empty 2354 01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:11,559 Speaker 1: out for the last time, they go bad. Yeah, yeah, 2355 01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:13,560 Speaker 1: they go fast. You don't realize how much you know, 2356 01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:17,120 Speaker 1: people actually have to maintain. Vermin move in yeah, yeah, 2357 01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:19,800 Speaker 1: you know rats, the size of cocker spaniels in there. Okay, 2358 01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:22,560 Speaker 1: that's enough right there, right, I mean, I mean you 2359 01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,840 Speaker 1: got to you gotta go in there packing heat to 2360 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:27,599 Speaker 1: get to get out alive. Right, it's like an apocalyptic movie. Yes, 2361 01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,439 Speaker 1: it's like a walking bed and you can if you 2362 01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:31,840 Speaker 1: go to Houston, you can walk around the astrodome and 2363 01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,080 Speaker 1: kind of peer through the lock gates and you can see, 2364 01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, some seats are look normal. You get sections 2365 01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:38,680 Speaker 1: that look normal and you other sections for seats are 2366 01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:43,599 Speaker 1: sideways and non existent. Yeah stuff, yeah, yeah, and it's 2367 01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:45,479 Speaker 1: interesting too. It was the eighth winder of the world 2368 01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,519 Speaker 1: in the sixties when it was built. Nineteen sixties when 2369 01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:49,479 Speaker 1: it was built. And now it looks literally like a 2370 01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:52,920 Speaker 1: speed bump next up state. That's it looks like a 2371 01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:55,960 Speaker 1: giant speed bump. It looks like somebody's you know, it 2372 01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:58,479 Speaker 1: looks like a water tank sitting next to it, a 2373 01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:01,320 Speaker 1: fuel tank by the right you can fill up with water. 2374 01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:04,439 Speaker 1: It's amazing how times change, but some of the stuff 2375 01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't change. The problems change, or the way these 2376 01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:11,080 Speaker 1: problems manifest themselves change, but the issues still remain the same. 2377 01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:13,559 Speaker 1: The owners are and these got these franchises. They're trying 2378 01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:15,240 Speaker 1: to make them as valuable as possible. They're trying to 2379 01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:18,599 Speaker 1: attract as many people as possible and squeeze every dollar 2380 01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:20,759 Speaker 1: out of it, and the cities are on and sometimes 2381 01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:22,559 Speaker 1: the cities are on board with it because it's an 2382 01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:25,599 Speaker 1: iconic franchise. The franchise has done a lot of things well. 2383 01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:28,600 Speaker 1: They try and make it like you know, like the 2384 01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:32,760 Speaker 1: Bills here, like like the New England Patriots they got 2385 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,479 Speaker 1: their stadium building and their stadium was built virtually with 2386 01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,320 Speaker 1: private money. That one of the things about that Patriots 2387 01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:40,519 Speaker 1: stadium too is they'd turn that whole area into like 2388 01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:42,479 Speaker 1: a shopping mall. I mean it is. It is the 2389 01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,400 Speaker 1: best facility when you turn in terms of you know, 2390 01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:49,960 Speaker 1: sprawl or hotels, shopping. Yeah, it's a mass strong. Yeah, 2391 01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:53,599 Speaker 1: it's a whole kind of many city out there exactly 2392 01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,320 Speaker 1: by itself. It's not just a building with parking lots 2393 01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:58,639 Speaker 1: and you know a couple of concession stands. It's a place. 2394 01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:00,880 Speaker 1: I mean people go there through sixty five days a 2395 01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,559 Speaker 1: year and on game day it's one hundred bucks to park. 2396 01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah a hundo, which is you know crazy, but Boston, 2397 01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:10,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about private money. Yeah, a hundo, folks, it's 2398 01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,920 Speaker 1: one hundred bucks to park near that stadium on game day. 2399 01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad I have a press parking put that way 2400 01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:20,760 Speaker 1: in bro for a parking space. Well, I mean there's 2401 01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,679 Speaker 1: limited space in there too. They put eighty thousand cars 2402 01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:25,559 Speaker 1: in that and it's New England. So I think charge 2403 01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:28,000 Speaker 1: whatever they want at this At this point they got 2404 01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 1: six World Championships and three NFC championship or a FC 2405 01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,760 Speaker 1: Championship rings too where they got to and lost the 2406 01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:38,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean it makes a difference, I guess, right. 2407 01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:41,760 Speaker 1: Plus but and that, and they're not paying for it 2408 01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:43,320 Speaker 1: in any other way. Only the people who go to 2409 01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:45,400 Speaker 1: those games. Only the people who use that property and 2410 01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:47,439 Speaker 1: park there and go there and use it and take 2411 01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:50,200 Speaker 1: partake in the event. They're the only ones who paid 2412 01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 1: for it. Nobody else like across town. No, none of 2413 01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:57,240 Speaker 1: the taxpayers paid for it. None of the government didn't 2414 01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:59,800 Speaker 1: pay for it. So you're kind of in for what 2415 01:52:59,880 --> 01:53:01,559 Speaker 1: you again, And I think that if you're signing up 2416 01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:03,560 Speaker 1: for that, charge what you want. And I think the 2417 01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:06,040 Speaker 1: other thing that has changed the conversation is maybe twenty 2418 01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,920 Speaker 1: thirty years ago, people could sell new stadiums, businesses could 2419 01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,720 Speaker 1: sell new stadiums as economic boost and there have been 2420 01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:15,080 Speaker 1: some jobs. It does help in the short term for sure, 2421 01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:18,439 Speaker 1: but there have been studies enough and people who you know, 2422 01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:21,240 Speaker 1: know more about economics than I do, who wonder about 2423 01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:23,240 Speaker 1: whether or not it's really gonna help. I don't think 2424 01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,320 Speaker 1: stadiums hurt. It's not like a drain. But I think 2425 01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,439 Speaker 1: there's been a few times that or there's been enough 2426 01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,400 Speaker 1: research done that you don't look at a stadium and say, well, 2427 01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:35,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna help the economy by x. It's it's good 2428 01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:37,600 Speaker 1: for the morale of the city, it's good obviously for 2429 01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:40,120 Speaker 1: the franchise, but it's not something that's gonna, you know, 2430 01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:43,519 Speaker 1: totally change a city's economy by putting a new stadium. It. Well, 2431 01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:46,120 Speaker 1: we've got we've got this going on. We're talking about 2432 01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:48,240 Speaker 1: this thing. The Tampa Bay Rays are going to do 2433 01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:53,240 Speaker 1: a two city project maybe with Montreal and Tampa Bay 2434 01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,000 Speaker 1: with their Major League Baseball team. Brings up a lot 2435 01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,200 Speaker 1: of things about stadiums, about where teams have played, some 2436 01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:58,800 Speaker 1: of the things that have happened in the past, not 2437 01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:02,599 Speaker 1: only with the National Football but with Major League Baseball. 2438 01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:05,080 Speaker 1: We also have our Twitter poll going on what Buffalo 2439 01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,080 Speaker 1: bill player will make their first Pro Bowl appearance in 2440 01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:11,000 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Sixty percent of he say Tredavious White, sixteen 2441 01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,920 Speaker 1: percent say Tremaine Edmunds and everybody else is split between 2442 01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,720 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Jerry Hughes. And we've got Rob on 2443 01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:18,600 Speaker 1: the line. I don't know what Rob actually wants to 2444 01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:22,120 Speaker 1: talk about, but we're gonna find out. Rob from Rhode Island. 2445 01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,040 Speaker 1: You're on the program with that, and Steve, thanks for 2446 01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:26,880 Speaker 1: joining us. Oh you're welcome. A couple of things. I'll 2447 01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,320 Speaker 1: talk about one My first Patriots game I ever went 2448 01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:31,799 Speaker 1: to I'm a Patriots fan, was that old Sullivan stadiums? 2449 01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:33,400 Speaker 1: Did you guys wrote up all that to suck? I 2450 01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:35,400 Speaker 1: played on it. I played in that stadium and you're right, 2451 01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,880 Speaker 1: it was great. I loved watching you. He played against you. 2452 01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you were one of those guys that every 2453 01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:43,520 Speaker 1: week it's like this guy always is there when we 2454 01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,000 Speaker 1: don't want them to be there. But it's still that way, 2455 01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,600 Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, that's right. And Sunday Night always 2456 01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,720 Speaker 1: they had metal seats, metal bleachers seat. It wasn't bad 2457 01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:54,440 Speaker 1: for it, Oh it was terrible. But I was also 2458 01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,520 Speaker 1: calling about the guy that's gonna make the Pro Bowl first, 2459 01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:58,880 Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be Tremaine and Edwards the 2460 01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:00,880 Speaker 1: little beat some. Why I'm saying that is because the 2461 01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:05,320 Speaker 1: competition I think is too stiff for right White to 2462 01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:09,360 Speaker 1: make it past the other cornerbacks league, including Gilmore. Yeah, 2463 01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:11,280 Speaker 1: Steph Gilmore and the rest of these guys. Yeah, you're 2464 01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:13,880 Speaker 1: exactly right, Rob, you know what I mean? Yeah, And 2465 01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,840 Speaker 1: I think Tremaine Edmonds a middle linebacker. You know, we'll 2466 01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:18,880 Speaker 1: pick one out. I mean, that's it's hard to even 2467 01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:22,040 Speaker 1: name a couple, you know. It's hey, it's hard to 2468 01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,680 Speaker 1: go down that roster and get someplace. But one thing 2469 01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:26,880 Speaker 1: I do know about that sometimes, and we know this too, 2470 01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,640 Speaker 1: Rob a little bit of its popularity contest because you 2471 01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:33,280 Speaker 1: get cities like New York and Boston voting for their guys, 2472 01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:35,680 Speaker 1: and it takes a guy from US market like Buffalo 2473 01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:38,920 Speaker 1: a little bit extra to get some votes from Indianapolis 2474 01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:41,320 Speaker 1: and all these other places, which Indianapolis has got a 2475 01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:44,440 Speaker 1: nice little middle linebacker as well. You know, it takes 2476 01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:46,640 Speaker 1: votes from those kind of cities to put a guy 2477 01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:49,200 Speaker 1: like Tremaine Edmunds over the top. Or a couple of 2478 01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:53,160 Speaker 1: Monday night football games or primetime games that help as well. 2479 01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:55,200 Speaker 1: So you know, all of that stuff goes into the 2480 01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:56,760 Speaker 1: mix when you're trying to pick which of these guys 2481 01:55:56,840 --> 01:56:00,480 Speaker 1: will emerge. And that's good stuff. Anything else, Rob, No, 2482 01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:03,520 Speaker 1: that was good. I appreciate hey, thanks for call. I 2483 01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:06,280 Speaker 1: appreciate Rhode Island. And it's nice here from a Patriots fan. 2484 01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:08,400 Speaker 1: Once in a while they're allowed. You look at the 2485 01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:10,760 Speaker 1: the linebackers who made the Pro Bowl last year, UM 2486 01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:14,440 Speaker 1: C J. Mosley Baltimore last year, now a Jet Bernard 2487 01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,720 Speaker 1: Rick McKinney from Houston, UM good player, wouldn't think it 2488 01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:20,240 Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowl all thought in my head. Outside linebackers, 2489 01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:22,760 Speaker 1: a lot more names you'd recognize, Von Miller, Jadeveon Clowney, 2490 01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:24,760 Speaker 1: d Ford. Really, I mean, these are guys who wore 2491 01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:27,160 Speaker 1: their hand in the dirt anyway, JJ or t J. 2492 01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:30,640 Speaker 1: Watt from the Steelers was into the game for Jadeveon Clowney. 2493 01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,040 Speaker 1: So I think linebacker. You look at that group, but 2494 01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:36,000 Speaker 1: you think you know, especially McKinney. These are guys where 2495 01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:39,960 Speaker 1: you could see, you know, Tremaine Edmund's um unseating someone 2496 01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:42,960 Speaker 1: the corners last year is Zavian Howard, brand new contract, 2497 01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey we all know and love him obviously, Stefan Gilmour, 2498 01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:48,640 Speaker 1: Denzel award. Um were the four guys who got a 2499 01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:50,400 Speaker 1: tough group. That's a tough group to crack. You know, 2500 01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:52,680 Speaker 1: that's a whole different you know, Ball Waxman, but you 2501 01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:54,800 Speaker 1: can I mean a guy and and they're against it. 2502 01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:57,200 Speaker 1: You're a little bit against it here in Buffalo. But 2503 01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:58,920 Speaker 1: I think one of the things too, you gotta remember 2504 01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,920 Speaker 1: too when they open it up to fan voting, you're 2505 01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:03,960 Speaker 1: if you're a slave to the market size you play in. 2506 01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:07,080 Speaker 1: And Tradavious White, Tremaine Edmunds, Josh and and Uh and 2507 01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:08,920 Speaker 1: Jerry are all going to be a victim of that. 2508 01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,440 Speaker 1: But also this to the real feather in your cabins. 2509 01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,240 Speaker 1: When you get All Pro or second team All Pro, 2510 01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:15,960 Speaker 1: that's the one where they go the whole league wide, AFC, 2511 01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:17,920 Speaker 1: NFC all in the same one. There's eleven guys and 2512 01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:21,840 Speaker 1: they start and the media votes on them. That's big. Uh, 2513 01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:23,920 Speaker 1: you can still do that because the media doesn't care 2514 01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:26,680 Speaker 1: about some market size, right, and the others report. You know, 2515 01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:29,040 Speaker 1: when you look at Pro Bowls, and we talked about 2516 01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:31,520 Speaker 1: this earlier, how many Pro Bowls? You know, if a 2517 01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,160 Speaker 1: guy goes in after three other guys have sating out 2518 01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:36,160 Speaker 1: the play or at one position had two guys who 2519 01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:37,880 Speaker 1: made the Super Bowl, Right, It's still called a Pro 2520 01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:40,240 Speaker 1: Bowl bid even though you know, no one looks at 2521 01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:41,920 Speaker 1: that guy and thinks, well, that's that's an All star 2522 01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:43,800 Speaker 1: or one of the best six of his position for 2523 01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:46,800 Speaker 1: the Sea. Yeah yeah, Dad Brown. Steve Tasker in a 2524 01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,080 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. We're gonna take 2525 01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:50,600 Speaker 1: a break. We're gonna come back with what do we 2526 01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:54,080 Speaker 1: learn a Pro and NFL true false. We've got our 2527 01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:56,880 Speaker 1: Twitter Twitter poll going as well, so come back and 2528 01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,520 Speaker 1: join us, presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. 2529 01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:14,120 Speaker 1: This is a Low Bills Radio Welcome back to One 2530 01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:16,920 Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health on Steve Tasker along 2531 01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:20,360 Speaker 1: with Fad Brown in for the murth. Today, we have 2532 01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:22,360 Speaker 1: a Twitter poll out that is which one of the 2533 01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:26,040 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills will have their first Pro Bowl season this 2534 01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:29,520 Speaker 1: year in twenty nineteen. Most of you think it's gonna 2535 01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:33,440 Speaker 1: be Tredavious White the cornerback. Percent of you anyway, seventeen 2536 01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:36,600 Speaker 1: percent say Tremaine Edmonds the middle linebacker, and twelve percent 2537 01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:40,240 Speaker 1: each for Jerry Hughes and Josh Allen. We've got some 2538 01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:42,520 Speaker 1: people who've chimed in who actually come from a pretty 2539 01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:46,760 Speaker 1: good place. And obviously we always put those four choices 2540 01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,200 Speaker 1: out there. But you can pick whatever you want from 2541 01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:52,600 Speaker 1: mp map, he says, Matt Milano. You can't ignore a 2542 01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:54,600 Speaker 1: player who last year, in one game, had to pick 2543 01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:57,680 Speaker 1: a fumble, recovery and a sack. Listen, you gotta do 2544 01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:59,520 Speaker 1: it more than one game. But yeah, Milano's a guy 2545 01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:02,760 Speaker 1: that has an for the football. He was called a 2546 01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:06,080 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber player just before or right around the 2547 01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,040 Speaker 1: time he got injured last year. He was putting together, 2548 01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:10,680 Speaker 1: but that was week thirteen, and there weren't that many 2549 01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:12,320 Speaker 1: people who were saying, hey, you gotta have this guy 2550 01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:13,640 Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl at that point, even though he 2551 01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:15,360 Speaker 1: was playing well. One thing we've talked about with this 2552 01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:16,840 Speaker 1: is that you do have to have the numbers. You know. 2553 01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:19,120 Speaker 1: Someone brought up Kevin Johnson earlier in the show, and 2554 01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,200 Speaker 1: I was skeptical to say the least about it. But 2555 01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:23,520 Speaker 1: as you said, Kevin Johnson has seven interceptions this year. 2556 01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:25,240 Speaker 1: No one else has more than three. The guy's going 2557 01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:28,000 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. Matt Milano, like you said, seems 2558 01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:29,520 Speaker 1: to find his way to the ball all the time. 2559 01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:31,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if he know last next year puts up 2560 01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:34,839 Speaker 1: ten sacks, five picks, three fumble recoveries in a touchdown, 2561 01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:37,280 Speaker 1: He's going to be in the mix. And again, one 2562 01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:39,200 Speaker 1: of the reasons that I like Tremaine Edmunds is I 2563 01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,240 Speaker 1: think that linebacker is a spot where you can break 2564 01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:44,600 Speaker 1: in in the AFC easier than corner or safety or quarterback. 2565 01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,760 Speaker 1: Milano plays the same position obviously. Yeah. Also from Brian 2566 01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:49,760 Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet which Bill will make their first 2567 01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:53,280 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl in twenty nineteen, he says crazy that Jerry 2568 01:59:53,320 --> 01:59:55,640 Speaker 1: Hughes has never made a Pro Bowl. Trey by far 2569 01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:57,800 Speaker 1: has the best chance, should have made it one of 2570 01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:01,800 Speaker 1: the last two years. He'll have a better corner opposite 2571 02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:04,600 Speaker 1: him this year, and with an improved defensive line, more 2572 02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:07,240 Speaker 1: opportunity for picks. We're going to need to pay him 2573 02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:11,160 Speaker 1: in a few years. Yeah, that's It's interesting that we're 2574 02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:12,920 Speaker 1: far enough down the line that you're starting to think 2575 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,480 Speaker 1: about which these guys you're gonna extend again. You know, 2576 02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Tredavious White was like this new Yukie, shiny new toy, 2577 02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:20,960 Speaker 1: a great corner. Wow, look at him, he's great. Now 2578 02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:22,880 Speaker 1: you're thinking about it. He got a second contract coming 2579 02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:24,960 Speaker 1: up in a minute. I wouldn't be stunned. I wouldn't 2580 02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:26,560 Speaker 1: be stunned the Bills sign him at some point this year. 2581 02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:28,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they have the kapern to make that happen. 2582 02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:31,720 Speaker 1: He'd be on the last year of his four year 2583 02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:33,960 Speaker 1: rookie deal next season, but he'd have the fifth year 2584 02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:36,520 Speaker 1: option that the Bills could use for the year after that. 2585 02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:39,880 Speaker 1: But you know, it's better to extend these guys early 2586 02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:42,000 Speaker 1: than late. Trey White has earned it. I mean, there's 2587 02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:43,520 Speaker 1: no doubt you want Trey White and your team for 2588 02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:45,480 Speaker 1: the next ten years. If you can sign him now, 2589 02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:48,040 Speaker 1: that's something that might be undermarket for the twenty twenty 2590 02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:50,280 Speaker 1: one or twenty twenty two season, it might behoove the 2591 02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Bills to make that happen. Yeah, I agree. And he's 2592 02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:54,720 Speaker 1: not the only one. I mean, there's some guys that 2593 02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:57,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to start thinking about. Matt Milano. Matt 2594 02:00:57,680 --> 02:01:00,280 Speaker 1: Milano being another one, and these are guys going to three. 2595 02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this is when you start having to have 2596 02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,280 Speaker 1: this conversation because you know, obviously Trey White being a 2597 02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:06,040 Speaker 1: first round pick, the Bills can keep him for a 2598 02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:08,400 Speaker 1: fifth year. Matt Milanni, you can't. You know his last 2599 02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:11,400 Speaker 1: contract year is next season, so I would not be 2600 02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:13,600 Speaker 1: surprised again if either one of these guys, now that 2601 02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:15,800 Speaker 1: you really think about it, gets an extension sometime in 2602 02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:17,720 Speaker 1: the next six months. Yeah, you think about his I'm 2603 02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:20,520 Speaker 1: reaching for that paper. We were draft reaching these first round, 2604 02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:27,000 Speaker 1: second round draft picks. You got Dion Dawkins. Jordan Phillips 2605 02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:28,360 Speaker 1: is going to be coming up. Of course they just 2606 02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:30,440 Speaker 1: signed him though, So you know you've got some guys 2607 02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:32,880 Speaker 1: yep Um, Diana, I think it needs to needs to 2608 02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:34,560 Speaker 1: prove it another year, you know, I think right now, 2609 02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:38,960 Speaker 1: Trey White for sure, Matt Milano for sure. You want 2610 02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:40,840 Speaker 1: these guys in your team for a decade, Diana, I 2611 02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:44,960 Speaker 1: think still has to show a little more trade stands out. Yeah, 2612 02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:47,200 Speaker 1: you've also got poor year and high coming to the 2613 02:01:47,240 --> 02:01:48,920 Speaker 1: third year. I think they were signed for five years 2614 02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:50,600 Speaker 1: when they signed him. This will be their third year 2615 02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:53,120 Speaker 1: in those deals. Were they both five years, I'd have 2616 02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:54,800 Speaker 1: to look at him. Yeah, maybe something like that. I 2617 02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:56,920 Speaker 1: think hide it was longer than think about it though. 2618 02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,280 Speaker 1: That's it's coming out. Yeah, we're already there, right, we're 2619 02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:01,600 Speaker 1: coming up. So he started to get that on the 2620 02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:03,440 Speaker 1: radar for a year or two down the line, and 2621 02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:05,240 Speaker 1: that means you got to take care of whatever needs 2622 02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:08,360 Speaker 1: to be taken care of before they get there. Right. So, well, again, 2623 02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:11,320 Speaker 1: it gets harder to sign a guy the longer you wait, 2624 02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:14,520 Speaker 1: because the more production he's created, the closer he gets 2625 02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:16,960 Speaker 1: the free agency, the bigger his eyes get to wear. Well, 2626 02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, maybe I don't want to wait around here 2627 02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:21,000 Speaker 1: and take something that five million less that I can 2628 02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:23,040 Speaker 1: get on the open market if I go. YEA, which 2629 02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:25,160 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills player will make their first Pro Bowl in 2630 02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:27,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen? We get a guy from all Right, I'm 2631 02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:30,840 Speaker 1: gonna say off the page because he's not one of 2632 02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:34,120 Speaker 1: the four choices we have. He says so much points 2633 02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:36,800 Speaker 1: to the Bills not having a wide receiver in the 2634 02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:39,600 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this year. But I still think they have one. 2635 02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Each one of our top four receivers have a message 2636 02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:45,000 Speaker 1: to send and a chip on their shoulder this year, 2637 02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:48,200 Speaker 1: plus they've got to you know, it's a deep record. 2638 02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Do you think the Bills can have one of these 2639 02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:52,839 Speaker 1: guys like Cole Beasley or John Brown or Zay Jones 2640 02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:58,720 Speaker 1: or Duke Williams, whoever? Do somebody have a year like that? 2641 02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:00,680 Speaker 1: Depends on the quarterback. But right now they have a 2642 02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:02,520 Speaker 1: quarterback that's going to run a little more than most 2643 02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:04,040 Speaker 1: other teams are. I mean, it's one of the reasons why, 2644 02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:05,440 Speaker 1: you know Seattle is they have a lot of Pro 2645 02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:08,440 Speaker 1: Bowl receivers. You know, Russell Wilson in the past has 2646 02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:10,640 Speaker 1: tended to run a little more. If you're gonna make 2647 02:03:10,840 --> 02:03:13,120 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, you gotta have catches, you gotta have yards, 2648 02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:14,640 Speaker 1: and you gotta have the ball thrown here. It's interesting 2649 02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:16,680 Speaker 1: to John Elway is probably one of the great quarterbacks 2650 02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:18,360 Speaker 1: I've ever seen play, certainly one of the best I've 2651 02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:21,360 Speaker 1: ever played against. He never had any Pro Bowl receivers. 2652 02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean he had the Vance Joseph and a few 2653 02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:26,960 Speaker 1: of the Advance Johnson Vance Johnson. Yeah. They they hit 2654 02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:28,880 Speaker 1: a nickname any for the receivers. I wish I could 2655 02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:31,440 Speaker 1: think of it now. Yeah, it was the Three Amigos 2656 02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:33,280 Speaker 1: or yeah, something like that. Yeah, but it was never 2657 02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:36,000 Speaker 1: one guy who stood out. I got you. Yeah, you're right, 2658 02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:38,320 Speaker 1: and that's it's hard to do. It's hard to do. 2659 02:03:39,120 --> 02:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Let's go to Let's go to NFL true false NFL 2660 02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:46,640 Speaker 1: true false. Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's 2661 02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:50,440 Speaker 1: artists and cheese true false. NFL number one Michael Thomas 2662 02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:54,240 Speaker 1: will be the next highest paid wide receiver. Michael Thomas 2663 02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:56,640 Speaker 1: of the New Orleans Saints. He just finished up a year. 2664 02:03:56,760 --> 02:03:58,080 Speaker 1: Let me just give you the numbers, and wouldn't it 2665 02:03:58,120 --> 02:03:59,560 Speaker 1: be nice to have somebody on our team do this 2666 02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:03,080 Speaker 1: this coming year? He had in twenty eighteen, Michael Thomas 2667 02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:06,560 Speaker 1: for the Saints had one hundred and twenty five receptions, 2668 02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:10,560 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred and five yards average eleven point two per catch, 2669 02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:13,840 Speaker 1: and nine touchdowns. That was and this is coming into 2670 02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:16,720 Speaker 1: his fourth season. He's in talks right now with the 2671 02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Saints and they seemed to be a long way away 2672 02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:23,720 Speaker 1: from each other in in terms, so they're it's not 2673 02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:26,160 Speaker 1: going well in their negotiations, or at least it's not 2674 02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:29,280 Speaker 1: going smoothly. He's six three, two twelve, he's only twenty 2675 02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:32,480 Speaker 1: six years old. Had fourteen hundred yards receiving last year 2676 02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:36,160 Speaker 1: on one hundred and twenty five receptions. Yes, I think 2677 02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,560 Speaker 1: he's going to be the next guy, next wide receiver 2678 02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:40,200 Speaker 1: who's the highest paid in the NFL. You know, it's 2679 02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:41,960 Speaker 1: even more stupid. He had one hundred twenty five catches, 2680 02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:44,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty seven targets. He only had twenty 2681 02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:47,240 Speaker 1: two balls that weren't completed that went his way out 2682 02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:48,800 Speaker 1: of one hundred and twenty five cars. That's a that's 2683 02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:51,160 Speaker 1: a darn good receiver. Some of this is Drew Brees 2684 02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:53,320 Speaker 1: for sure, and none of it's Sean Payton. And I 2685 02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:55,360 Speaker 1: think this is why the Saints are in this spot. 2686 02:04:55,480 --> 02:04:57,840 Speaker 1: I think Michael Thomas was never looked at like an 2687 02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:01,800 Speaker 1: AJ Green, Julio Jones chain passing him, Antonio Brown, change 2688 02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:03,800 Speaker 1: of passing game on your own type guy. He was 2689 02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:06,720 Speaker 1: one voice in a chorus and Drew Brees was a conductator. 2690 02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:09,880 Speaker 1: His rookie season, the guy hangs ninety two catches up 2691 02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:13,680 Speaker 1: for eleven hundred yards. His sophomore season twenty seventeen, he 2692 02:05:13,720 --> 02:05:16,560 Speaker 1: had one hundred and four catches for twelve hundred and 2693 02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:19,920 Speaker 1: forty five yards. His third season last year, one hundred 2694 02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:22,760 Speaker 1: and twenty five catches for fourteen hundred. He's gotten better 2695 02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,160 Speaker 1: all three years of his career, and he started out 2696 02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:27,160 Speaker 1: at ninety two and eleven hundred. But again, if I 2697 02:05:27,200 --> 02:05:29,680 Speaker 1: say guys killing it, if I say Michael Thomas to you, 2698 02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:32,000 Speaker 1: do you put him off the top of your head 2699 02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:33,960 Speaker 1: among the top five receivers in the league. You would, 2700 02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:35,520 Speaker 1: now if you look at these numbers. Listen, if he 2701 02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:37,760 Speaker 1: was in our division, yes, yeah, you know, but you 2702 02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:40,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't say for New Orleans. If I say great receiver 2703 02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:43,200 Speaker 1: to you, you're gonna go with Odell Beckham, Julio Jones, 2704 02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:47,960 Speaker 1: AJ Green. I mean those guys yeahs yeah, exacting Allen Yeah, 2705 02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:50,040 Speaker 1: I get all those guys before this guy and this guy, 2706 02:05:50,080 --> 02:05:52,440 Speaker 1: I mean, one hundred and twenty five catches is stupid. 2707 02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:55,000 Speaker 1: That's this is a guy that deserves me paid as 2708 02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:58,240 Speaker 1: the number one receiver in the league. I'm gonna say 2709 02:05:58,320 --> 02:06:00,960 Speaker 1: true because I think someone's gonna pay him. I agree. True. 2710 02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. He may not be the next one, 2711 02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:05,360 Speaker 1: but when he does sign a new deal, he will be. 2712 02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:07,640 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's gonna happen with the Saints. 2713 02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:12,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll just exercise their option. Um, let's see what 2714 02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:13,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't say. I can't. I don't know when he 2715 02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:16,680 Speaker 1: was drafted. He was a second yeah he was. He 2716 02:06:16,920 --> 02:06:20,760 Speaker 1: was taken in six and fifteen. No, I'm sorry sixteen. 2717 02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:23,160 Speaker 1: He was drafted second round pick, second round pick this 2718 02:06:24,480 --> 02:06:26,960 Speaker 1: last year. So they're gonna have to franchise. If they 2719 02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:28,440 Speaker 1: franchise him, then he is going to be one of 2720 02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:30,680 Speaker 1: the highest paid guys for one years. He can ride 2721 02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:33,680 Speaker 1: that out. And yeah, as well, I don't think there's 2722 02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:35,680 Speaker 1: the receiver that's up anytime soon. A J. Green, I 2723 02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:37,640 Speaker 1: think is the next one. But he's got at least 2724 02:06:37,640 --> 02:06:40,240 Speaker 1: one more year. I think. All right, So NFL NFL 2725 02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:43,839 Speaker 1: true false, number two playoffs or bust for Kirk Cousins 2726 02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:46,200 Speaker 1: and the Vikings. And if you're not familiar with the 2727 02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:49,320 Speaker 1: way Kirk Cousins played for the Vikings last year, most 2728 02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:51,280 Speaker 1: Bills fans look at that Vikings team and go, what 2729 02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:53,120 Speaker 1: were they doing? Because they didn't show up for the Bill. 2730 02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:54,880 Speaker 1: The Bills looked horrible in the first two weeks and 2731 02:06:54,920 --> 02:06:57,440 Speaker 1: went into Minnesota, I guess the team that had Super 2732 02:06:57,480 --> 02:07:01,320 Speaker 1: Bowl aspirational and thumped them big time. So the Bills 2733 02:07:01,360 --> 02:07:04,400 Speaker 1: fans are kind of like shrugging their shoulders at the Vikings. 2734 02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:10,840 Speaker 1: But Kirk Cousins uh played pretty well last year. He uh, 2735 02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:14,280 Speaker 1: let's see, he had He was number ten in the 2736 02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:17,800 Speaker 1: league in yards, he was number ten in quarterback rating, 2737 02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:21,200 Speaker 1: he was top ten, number nine in touchdowns, He had 2738 02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:26,240 Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns, ten interceptions, he played really well. I think 2739 02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:31,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what his completion percentage works. Seventy percent 2740 02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:35,760 Speaker 1: completion percentage. Listen, he's not going anywhere. No, And I 2741 02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:38,360 Speaker 1: mean depends on what your definition of bust is. You know, 2742 02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:41,240 Speaker 1: are we talking about bust, blow it up and start 2743 02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:43,480 Speaker 1: from scraps. That's a different thing. Is it bust that 2744 02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:45,720 Speaker 1: we need to change personnel or a bust? Hey, it 2745 02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:47,240 Speaker 1: hasn't work, we're just gonna call it a bust. I 2746 02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:50,839 Speaker 1: think as false. I think that's false. It's not playoffs, 2747 02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:54,160 Speaker 1: but it's not it's playoffs or bust. Were not Super 2748 02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:56,400 Speaker 1: Bowl Er bust, right, And he's on a three year deal, 2749 02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:58,800 Speaker 1: so they're not gonna, you know, no matter what happens 2750 02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:01,280 Speaker 1: this year outside of maybe two and fourteen, they're gonna 2751 02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:04,160 Speaker 1: run it back. What about Mike Zimmer, I think he 2752 02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:05,440 Speaker 1: might be the one thing in the fall, but he's 2753 02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:07,640 Speaker 1: like we said, they can't get Ridardkerk. Depends, you know, 2754 02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:09,840 Speaker 1: on how it looks. I'm gonna say no because there's 2755 02:08:09,880 --> 02:08:11,800 Speaker 1: so many scenarios where you can say, oh, listen, they 2756 02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:14,680 Speaker 1: can so many things can happen. They're in a division 2757 02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:16,640 Speaker 1: where they should they should play well. The other with 2758 02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:19,160 Speaker 1: the Brent Green Bay Packers in Chicago. That's a tough 2759 02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:22,000 Speaker 1: division all of a sudden, it hasn't always been. I 2760 02:08:22,080 --> 02:08:24,160 Speaker 1: think it is now. I don't. I think the Vikings 2761 02:08:24,200 --> 02:08:27,360 Speaker 1: are going to be better than the Bears this year? Really, 2762 02:08:27,440 --> 02:08:31,400 Speaker 1: oh I do? I mean I think the Vikings. I 2763 02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:33,920 Speaker 1: think the Bears take a step backward this year. Mitch 2764 02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Trubisky was okay, yeah, and I think that's his roof. 2765 02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:39,640 Speaker 1: I think really this question bils down to do you 2766 02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:41,240 Speaker 1: think they fire the head coach if they don't make 2767 02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:44,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs? I do not. I'll agree, it depends on 2768 02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:46,000 Speaker 1: what it looks like. Certainly if they go out and 2769 02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:49,080 Speaker 1: hang a three and thirteen, but if even a season 2770 02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:50,760 Speaker 1: like last year. But I'll tell you this, and we 2771 02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:53,840 Speaker 1: had this conversation too. Last year. The Vikings go in, 2772 02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:56,520 Speaker 1: they had every no reason to take the Bills seriously, 2773 02:08:56,640 --> 02:08:58,680 Speaker 1: and they didn't, and the Bills punched him in the 2774 02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:01,960 Speaker 1: mouth and beat him good. That's the head coach. You 2775 02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:03,680 Speaker 1: can lay that right at the feet of Mike Zimmer 2776 02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:05,920 Speaker 1: And you just show the numbers, Kirk Cousins numbers, I mean, 2777 02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:09,000 Speaker 1: seventy percent completion rating, you thirty to ten touchdowns in 2778 02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:11,360 Speaker 1: a quarterback like that, you gotta win exactly or you 2779 02:09:11,400 --> 02:09:13,640 Speaker 1: should win. So and their defense wasn't terrible either. They 2780 02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:16,320 Speaker 1: had good players. Playoffs, So what happened? Yeah, So if 2781 02:09:16,360 --> 02:09:18,960 Speaker 1: they don't mate and they say what we're saying, it's 2782 02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:23,280 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer's fault, I say, yeah. But so I don't 2783 02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:25,000 Speaker 1: know whether I'm going back and forth or or not. 2784 02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:27,320 Speaker 1: But you're saying, they're saying the super Bowl. They're just 2785 02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:29,080 Speaker 1: saying playoffs. You're saying, if they go eight and eight, 2786 02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:32,360 Speaker 1: they don't fire that coach. That's what you're saying. I 2787 02:09:32,440 --> 02:09:35,960 Speaker 1: think you're probably right. I'm saying I'm saying, yeah, I'm 2788 02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:38,160 Speaker 1: saying this is false. Playoffs are bust. I'm saying false. 2789 02:09:38,200 --> 02:09:39,720 Speaker 1: If they had to go eight and eight, missed the playoffs, 2790 02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer's not going anywhere all right? Last one NFL 2791 02:09:44,320 --> 02:09:46,960 Speaker 1: true false. Number three, Carson Wentz is not a top 2792 02:09:47,080 --> 02:09:50,360 Speaker 1: ten NFL quarterback. I'm gonna say true to this. I'll 2793 02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:52,880 Speaker 1: go first, he was a top ten quarterback two years 2794 02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:55,480 Speaker 1: ago for thirteen games, and then he had we haven't 2795 02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:57,160 Speaker 1: seen him since. He was had a losing record as 2796 02:09:57,200 --> 02:09:59,560 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback last year. Granted, he was coming off 2797 02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:02,040 Speaker 1: a major injury, and he's nicked up last year as well. 2798 02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:04,400 Speaker 1: He's got to do it more consistently than he's been 2799 02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:06,080 Speaker 1: able to do it so far. He had a great 2800 02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:09,520 Speaker 1: run when the Eagles put it together around him. Nick 2801 02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:13,520 Speaker 1: Foles carried the water from there on both seasons, and 2802 02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:16,520 Speaker 1: he is Carson Wentz has still got some things to 2803 02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:19,840 Speaker 1: prove to put to be put into that statistical category, 2804 02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:23,880 Speaker 1: emotional category, whatever you want to put you got to 2805 02:10:23,880 --> 02:10:25,600 Speaker 1: prove it to me again, Carson wins because I don't 2806 02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:27,040 Speaker 1: think you're a top ten guy right now. It's always 2807 02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:29,320 Speaker 1: hard to bring up quarterbacks by a number, you know, ten, fifteen, 2808 02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:31,080 Speaker 1: there's probably more like tears. You know, he's not in 2809 02:10:31,160 --> 02:10:33,760 Speaker 1: the Brady Russell, Wilson Roethlisberger tier. He might be in 2810 02:10:33,800 --> 02:10:35,200 Speaker 1: the next group and you might be able to put 2811 02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:36,880 Speaker 1: him high on that to get him in the top ten. 2812 02:10:36,920 --> 02:10:38,840 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna agree with you. I think that's true. 2813 02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:41,240 Speaker 1: He is not a top ten quarterback. I agree. All right, 2814 02:10:41,240 --> 02:10:43,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. Fat Brown in for Murph 2815 02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:45,120 Speaker 1: and I'm Steve Tasker from One Bill's Live. From One 2816 02:10:45,160 --> 02:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive is presented by Kalida health where to come 2817 02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:49,560 Speaker 1: back with what do we learn right after the break? 2818 02:10:49,640 --> 02:11:04,760 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you in a minute. What are we 2819 02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:07,840 Speaker 1: learned presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's homes 2820 02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:10,200 Speaker 1: and businesses with the finest insecurity and home theater and 2821 02:11:10,280 --> 02:11:13,040 Speaker 1: preferred alarm and home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. 2822 02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:15,720 Speaker 1: We had Matt Chatham on, former Patriots linebacker, three time 2823 02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:18,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion, talking to him about the Patriots and 2824 02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:20,960 Speaker 1: the AFC East and the fact that there's only one 2825 02:11:21,120 --> 02:11:25,520 Speaker 1: quarterback in the division named Tom Brady. The other three 2826 02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:29,760 Speaker 1: are called something else, And we asked him what the 2827 02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:33,360 Speaker 1: expectations were about those other three guys who just landed 2828 02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:37,040 Speaker 1: in the AFC East. Here's what he said. We're at 2829 02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:39,920 Speaker 1: another sort of many degrees of separational rarity when you 2830 02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:42,520 Speaker 1: get not only three within the division, but three within 2831 02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:45,440 Speaker 1: the dishes division playing the most important position in the game. 2832 02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:48,280 Speaker 1: And it's again, I think a little heightened level of 2833 02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:51,760 Speaker 1: expectation for you guys over there, for the Jets and 2834 02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:54,720 Speaker 1: down South and then also Miami, because we're not talking 2835 02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:57,440 Speaker 1: about this is the year of that draft. We're talking 2836 02:11:57,480 --> 02:11:59,839 Speaker 1: about year two, which is when you start to expect 2837 02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:02,400 Speaker 1: return on an investment. So it's a it's a really 2838 02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:06,640 Speaker 1: really bizarre situation in NFL history to have this all 2839 02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:10,000 Speaker 1: going on in one division. At one time that was 2840 02:12:10,040 --> 02:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Matt Chatham from the Athletic in Boston, and it is. 2841 02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:18,960 Speaker 1: There is a larger sense of something weird, eerie, special, 2842 02:12:19,200 --> 02:12:21,240 Speaker 1: whatever you call it going on in this division with 2843 02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:23,440 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks of the ages of the three guys that 2844 02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:26,240 Speaker 1: are on the other teams. Now, certainly in Miami, Josh 2845 02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:28,600 Speaker 1: Rosen may not see the field ahead of Fits for 2846 02:12:28,640 --> 02:12:31,920 Speaker 1: a while until you know, Fitz goes Fits right, he 2847 02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:34,120 Speaker 1: does the whole Fits has got to play great. He's 2848 02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:36,040 Speaker 1: got to play great. Then you know the three and 2849 02:12:36,120 --> 02:12:38,520 Speaker 1: elemental thrill is seventy five interceptions in the sex game. Yeah, 2850 02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:40,680 Speaker 1: I got you exactly the thing about that he made 2851 02:12:40,760 --> 02:12:41,840 Speaker 1: the point that he made that I think is the 2852 02:12:41,880 --> 02:12:45,000 Speaker 1: most important. There aren't many quarterbacks that develop in year three. 2853 02:12:45,560 --> 02:12:47,080 Speaker 1: This is probably the year. Now you don't need a 2854 02:12:47,120 --> 02:12:49,480 Speaker 1: super Bowl or playoffs, but at the end of this year, 2855 02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:53,200 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Sam Donald, maybe Josh Rosen, these guys need 2856 02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:54,960 Speaker 1: to show that you are confident that they're going to 2857 02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:57,800 Speaker 1: be long term starters in this League because it probably 2858 02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,200 Speaker 1: won't happen after this, right, and plus they've you know, 2859 02:13:00,400 --> 02:13:05,200 Speaker 1: let's face it, that forty two years old is old 2860 02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:10,000 Speaker 1: at some point he professional sports. But I'm with Matt Chattam. 2861 02:13:10,040 --> 02:13:11,440 Speaker 1: He told us this also, and I'll get your take 2862 02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:14,280 Speaker 1: on the real quick. It's not about Tom Brady and 2863 02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:17,120 Speaker 1: everybody says, oh, you're crazy. There is he is, but 2864 02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:19,880 Speaker 1: that program is gonna go on without him. They're they're 2865 02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:23,360 Speaker 1: they've locked like one game in the time when he 2866 02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:25,240 Speaker 1: was not the quarterback and they were eleven and five 2867 02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:27,320 Speaker 1: with Matt Castle. I want to see Bill Belichick with 2868 02:13:27,320 --> 02:13:29,760 Speaker 1: another quarterback, not that he can't do it, but I 2869 02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:32,240 Speaker 1: want to see it, all right. Thad Brown, w R 2870 02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:35,200 Speaker 1: OCTV Sports director out of Rochester, Thanks for coming on today. 2871 02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:39,560 Speaker 1: Really enjoyed having you on. Appreciate it, right, yeah, not 2872 02:13:39,640 --> 02:13:41,360 Speaker 1: even in my own house. And thanks also to our 2873 02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:45,040 Speaker 1: production assistant George Blast, Jeff Coltoneck, Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, 2874 02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:48,480 Speaker 1: JJ Tarito, Kevin Cargis, James Robell. Chris Brown will be 2875 02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:50,840 Speaker 1: back with me tomorrow to co host. I've got a 2876 02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:52,840 Speaker 1: big show plan to end up the week. This is 2877 02:13:52,920 --> 02:13:55,720 Speaker 1: one Bill's Live presented by Kalidah Health from One Bill's Drive. 2878 02:13:56,080 --> 02:13:58,960 Speaker 1: And this has been Buffalo Bill's radio