Speaker 1: Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of the Greatest. I'm Megan Gaily,
Speaker 1: joined by my husband and co host C J. Tildano. Hello,
Speaker 1: how professional sounded very very official. Well, I'm worried because
Speaker 1: I have people tweeting at you that I sounded drunk
Speaker 1: and or high on the last episode and it was
Speaker 1: nine AM, and so now I think I was stone sober.
Speaker 1: I'm stone sober right now. Now. I'm worried I phased
Speaker 1: into a part of my life where I just have
Speaker 1: drunk lady voice even when I'm sober. Well, guess that
Speaker 1: we have is maybe not the best person to be, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: completely sober all the time and very well behaved. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to give guests nice intros. One of our dearest friends, No,
Speaker 1: I was going to. I was just prefacing, you know,
Speaker 1: some history here, long overdue having him on the pod.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to have some thoughts about that.
Speaker 1: Probably a sixth sports podcast of the day, my former roommate.
Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, and just like TikTok famous too, just guy,
Speaker 1: he is killing a TikTok YouTube, great social media presence.
Speaker 1: Comedian we know and love and came up with Joe
Speaker 1: kill Gallen. Thank you. I love you both. So it's
Speaker 1: great to be podcasting with you. Easily my favorite couple
Speaker 1: in the world really, I mean besides myself and my wife. Like,
Speaker 1: you've had a great tweet today where you're like, this
Speaker 1: is my husband whenever I like clap back at a
Speaker 1: heckler and I'm like, damn, that's cute. Yeah, well it
Speaker 1: was like kind of made it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: CJS no I have. I've been in the crime like hell, yes,
Speaker 1: getting yelled at by my wife. I thought you're gonna
Speaker 1: be like get on, you know, like pro woman, but
Speaker 1: you're just like fortuity me freaking out. Um, Joe, congrats
Speaker 1: on the no hitter. Yes, that was mostly my doing.
Speaker 1: I actually saw no hitter Jake Garrietta through one against
Speaker 1: the Dodgers in l A. I was there. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: And then today I just watched in my garage like
Speaker 1: a Chicago scumbag. But that's where I almost think sitting
Speaker 1: in your garage is the perfect place to watch a
Speaker 1: Cubs no hitter. For the fans at home who don't
Speaker 1: know Joe, there is no bigger Cubs fan, it's um,
Speaker 1: it's borderline mentally ill. The thing is they they are
Speaker 1: good and they did win recently, so it's not like
Speaker 1: a Brown's mental illness. It is like a kind of
Speaker 1: successful mental illness. But yeah, I mean just even looking
Speaker 1: at you right now with your setup, you you look
Speaker 1: like a Cub's cartoon character. I don't know. It is
Speaker 1: getting to the point where I'm I'm hoping something's got
Speaker 1: to give because it affects my mood. And I can't
Speaker 1: be a father of two and have like a Cub's
Speaker 1: loss make me be a bad dad. I think you
Speaker 1: can in Chicago. Yeah, you're probably right. So we're recording
Speaker 1: this on Sunday, first day of the NFL season, and
Speaker 1: I was getting really upset about, you know, something the
Speaker 1: Colts did. And c J was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I forgot that. This is what happens to you. Like
Speaker 1: with the Pacers, I like love them, but there's constantly
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, then there's another game in two days.
Speaker 1: Like it's just like a quicker turnaround, so you don't
Speaker 1: have to be sad for as long. And I also
Speaker 1: don't think of you know, like when you look at
Speaker 1: the NBA. It's like, I don't think the Pacers are
Speaker 1: gonna win, and we look at the NFL. I don't
Speaker 1: really think the Cults are gonna win either, but it's
Speaker 1: like better chances, so I get more invested in Psychotic
Speaker 1: I get it, and the NFL owns a day of
Speaker 1: the week. Your dad I said a great conversation with
Speaker 1: your dad, Megan where he said, I mean, He's like, no,
Speaker 1: Mr kill Gallen, You're not one of those fans that
Speaker 1: won't go out to dinner because the big games on
Speaker 1: right And I'm like, no, I am. I've I've been like, hey,
Speaker 1: you wanna go to this thing. I'm like, well, the
Speaker 1: Cubs are on, so I'll meet you there after. And
Speaker 1: he's like that's crazy, and I was like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: that guy. And so is that why you feel like
Speaker 1: you want there to be a change so then you
Speaker 1: can start enjoying your life more. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I wanted to be a change
Speaker 1: because it does bring me a lot of joy, but
Speaker 1: it also brings me a lot of anger at the
Speaker 1: same same time, So I don't know what the change
Speaker 1: might be. I think I'm a big fan of the
Speaker 1: Cubs president Theo Epstein, and I have a sneaky suspicion
Speaker 1: that the ownership is going to screw him over somehow
Speaker 1: because his contracts up in two years, They're gonna disrespect
Speaker 1: him or do something like that. And I could see
Speaker 1: myself being like, you know what, nothing will ever top
Speaker 1: as a Cubs fan. It's time for me to follow
Speaker 1: THEO because I'm such a big fan of his, and
Speaker 1: maybe I could let go of some of this like
Speaker 1: insane psychotic breakdowns I have when again, when the Cubs
Speaker 1: don't win. There's no way that's happening from I mean,
Speaker 1: THEO is so great though. He is the only GM
Speaker 1: I can think of that had a stalker like that
Speaker 1: is so impressive to just be you know, you're just
Speaker 1: the guy behind at all. You're not even like front
Speaker 1: chasing camera videos that like. I mean, he is known.
Speaker 1: But wow, that gal, she she was she like wound
Speaker 1: up on his Trump sorts. What happened. I don't know
Speaker 1: all the details, but THEO is a young, good looking guy.
Speaker 1: He was a Yale graduate who won for the Red
Speaker 1: Sox back in two thousand four when he was like
Speaker 1: twenty nine years old, so everyone was like, what's the term,
Speaker 1: like a wonder kid or something or can I don't know,
Speaker 1: some German means you're really smart and young, I think anyway,
Speaker 1: And then when he came over to the Cubs, he
Speaker 1: was like, here's my plan. It's a five year plan.
Speaker 1: Year five of the plan, they won the World Series.
Speaker 1: That's just I don't know, He's like, he makes being
Speaker 1: a nerd cool, which something nerds have done. Actually, now
Speaker 1: that I said that, allowed sports nerds are pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Just like it's not as much of like a phase
Speaker 1: of having to convince you what you're cool if you
Speaker 1: know a lot about sports in my opinion, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: when Nicety stumped the schwab boy it is it is
Speaker 1: wet ass pussy over here. Okay, so today's topic. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited we're doing it. Was like when I was
Speaker 1: excited to do my research for you are the perfect
Speaker 1: person to do it with. We are doing greatest meltdowns.
Speaker 1: And before we even get into that, Joe, I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's and I mean this totally would love
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a comedian in our friends
Speaker 1: circle who has more notorious meltdowns than you and most
Speaker 1: of them justified almost all of them. Justified some of them.
Speaker 1: I will not name. I don't want lawsuits to be
Speaker 1: brought against me, but I've definitely been on your side
Speaker 1: for most of them. In your opinion, what is your
Speaker 1: greatest meltdown? My greatest meltdown? Okay, I had a playing
Speaker 1: basketball and I was like eleven years old, no, twelve
Speaker 1: years It was a big game. These were like two
Speaker 1: undefeated teams and porge parks. Jim had like this upper
Speaker 1: balcony and all these girls were chanting Joey and because
Speaker 1: they knew they would kissed me off when I was
Speaker 1: on the free throw line, they'd like joe we and
Speaker 1: these were like girls I liked. I wasn't that mad
Speaker 1: with these dudes. I didn't like, we're saying some ship
Speaker 1: so um. Right after like a time out, I had
Speaker 1: the basketball and I threw it into the stand. Was
Speaker 1: trying to hit one of them in the head. So
Speaker 1: I threw a basketball into a crowd of people, and
Speaker 1: that's it's against up into a balcony. So like I
Speaker 1: launched it and I got a tech and you only
Speaker 1: got a technical and that you got off pretty easy there.
Speaker 1: So I got lucky because I think the reference him
Speaker 1: swearing it out at me. This one kid, and you
Speaker 1: were eleven and were your parents there? They were not.
Speaker 1: It was the one game that didn't show up to Okay,
Speaker 1: So do you feel like you felt like the leash
Speaker 1: was off a little bit more? I would like to
Speaker 1: say that, but I've been um, you know my dad once.
Speaker 1: I remember striking out and throwing my bat and the
Speaker 1: dugout my day going, We're going home, and I hit
Speaker 1: a home run earlier in that game, and he made
Speaker 1: me fourth inning because I threw a bat. So I
Speaker 1: haven't always held back in front of him. Yeah, I come.
Speaker 1: I come from a family of sports meltdowns. I would
Speaker 1: get in verbal altercations with almost every single girl I
Speaker 1: ever played tennis against. And then I started playing golf too,
Speaker 1: and so that's across. You're gonna see those girls again.
Speaker 1: So then the girls I was fighting in tennis, I
Speaker 1: would then start fighting in the fall and golf. Just
Speaker 1: a real fun white girl cycle. My brother's psychos drop,
Speaker 1: kicking gloves, throwing things. My brother Michael making a jerk
Speaker 1: off signal at other nine year olds. He got ejected,
Speaker 1: He got thrown out of the gym, like they said you,
Speaker 1: he has to leave the building, and so then my
Speaker 1: mom and my dad was the coach, so he couldn't leave.
Speaker 1: So my dad's just inside coaching, and my mom and
Speaker 1: my brother and I are outside in the car waiting
Speaker 1: for the game to be over. C J. I don't
Speaker 1: imagine that the Tola Donnas have as much of a
Speaker 1: past as Joe and I do. Well, I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask you, are these what you guys are describing meltdowns
Speaker 1: are anger problems. It's a combination of both. I think
Speaker 1: a meltdown is kind of when you lose control of yourself,
Speaker 1: because I've had I've lashed out angrily where I'm like
Speaker 1: totally in control, I know what's going on, and then
Speaker 1: there's other times where it's like, oh, I wish I
Speaker 1: did not just punch that brick wall because that out
Speaker 1: my fingers are broken. You're talking about your brother. I
Speaker 1: do remember now. I was kicked out of a co
Speaker 1: ed flight a league um in Chicago because my one
Speaker 1: cousin was getting real chirpy at wide receiver. He was
Speaker 1: mad that I wasn't hitting him, and I remember saying, like, hey,
Speaker 1: shut the funk up, t O, You're not open and uh,
Speaker 1: he said something else. I snapped the ball and I
Speaker 1: went to like try to hit him in the back.
Speaker 1: So I like threw a bullet and I missed him
Speaker 1: and hit a girl on the shoulder. And so then
Speaker 1: the ruffles like that was on purpose, and I'm like
Speaker 1: mad and her also she could have picked it off,
Speaker 1: like why you met me because she's shitty at defense.
Speaker 1: And then you know, like they told me to leave
Speaker 1: and then away from the park like Judd Nelson at
Speaker 1: the end of Breakfast Club, but instead of the fist
Speaker 1: pump and in the middle finger all the us Wells park.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was a fun That's impressive. Now we
Speaker 1: have all of these incredible stories of our own meltdowns.
Speaker 1: We will be right back with more famous people's meltdowns,
Speaker 1: and we are back. Is wait, there's a question I
Speaker 1: want to ask you about meltdowns. Know this is because
Speaker 1: it pertains to what we're going to get into. And
Speaker 1: it's like you end up having kind of like funny
Speaker 1: moments and all of your meltdowns because you're a comedian,
Speaker 1: you are a funny person. Do you think that makes
Speaker 1: you like, do you think people that are funny and
Speaker 1: or smart and or like kind of wise ass end
Speaker 1: up being more predisposed to having meltdowns because they know
Speaker 1: they'll get away with it, or they'll like do something
Speaker 1: funny that people will remember. Yes, I do in a way,
Speaker 1: but I also think something about funny or smart or
Speaker 1: whatever people have in meltdowns. Someone told me that because
Speaker 1: there's a difference. Someone tried to say I was an
Speaker 1: angry person once. I am not an angry person. I
Speaker 1: think my default setting is I'm a pretty happy guy.
Speaker 1: I have a bad temper, which is completely different like
Speaker 1: angry people walking around being like all the governments out
Speaker 1: to get me and this, this and this bad temper.
Speaker 1: People were like, what's up? And then someone steps on
Speaker 1: our shoe and it's like, hey, Dick had kind of courtesies.
Speaker 1: I think what people that have melt downs and lash
Speaker 1: out is because we're so disappointed and other people that
Speaker 1: they're not meeting up to our standards. That's what I read.
Speaker 1: Once door tempers, we get disappointed in people like that's
Speaker 1: why like people with road rage, It's like, I'm disappointed
Speaker 1: and how shitty my fellow are. We're supposed to be
Speaker 1: under the same set of rules. You just cut me off.
Speaker 1: You fucking idiot, and I can't tell you, I can't
Speaker 1: pull you aside and be like, listen, little guys, this
Speaker 1: is why you don't do that. So I have to
Speaker 1: scream at you. And I think that's why smart or
Speaker 1: funny people do. And I think I don't think anything's
Speaker 1: funnier to me than overreacting. When people overreact, it's hysterical.
Speaker 1: Happy Gilmore is funnier than Billy Madison and Happy gil
Speaker 1: losing his fucking mind, and Billy Madison he's just dumb
Speaker 1: and sorry about what was a better movie, Billy Madison
Speaker 1: or Happy Gilmore. It's happy going more. You for me,
Speaker 1: used to be Billy Madison nowadays happy going Yeah. And
Speaker 1: the thing is our listeners they would want that take,
Speaker 1: you know, they're happy to that. That's kind of like
Speaker 1: a little appetize, sir. You're like, like, oh, like a
Speaker 1: little one bite. Okay, thank you. I didn't know we
Speaker 1: were going to be ranking Adam Sandler least today too. Okay,
Speaker 1: Joe greatest Meltdowns. You are like the Benstein of this,
Speaker 1: So lead us off with your number three pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: My number three is Dennis Rodman kicking a cameraman in
Speaker 1: the nuts. It was kick, as a lot of people know.
Speaker 1: Now I know, it feels like almost a cop out
Speaker 1: to go with Roban, because he's such an obvious guy
Speaker 1: for heaven, like meltdowns, headbutted a referee, and all the
Speaker 1: fights he's been in. This one in particular, I like
Speaker 1: because as a psycho, when you make an embarrassing move,
Speaker 1: because in that the play he kind of fell out
Speaker 1: of bounds Rodman and I think he was a little
Speaker 1: embarrassed and he fell into the cameraman. Now, so he
Speaker 1: took his rage out on someone else, which I can
Speaker 1: identify with big time. You gotta ask my wife, and
Speaker 1: so that's what he does. He tumbles over, he messed up,
Speaker 1: so instead of just being like, my bad, he sees
Speaker 1: the cameraman who's kind of in his way, and then
Speaker 1: just sides, Oh, this ship's on you, buddy, and then
Speaker 1: gives him like a kick, which I always thought was
Speaker 1: unfair for people to say it was in his nuts,
Speaker 1: because if you notice, the kick was kind of underneath
Speaker 1: his thigh, so that cameraman might have a healthy pair,
Speaker 1: because I think that looked like a thigh kick. But
Speaker 1: the cameraman swears he got a testicle. See this is
Speaker 1: how you know Joe is a psycho because he starts
Speaker 1: like being like, that's not his balls. He didn't get
Speaker 1: his ball, and it's like, well, you know, you can't
Speaker 1: kick people no matter what. It's a sensitive area. And
Speaker 1: and but I do think your assessment of it is correct.
Speaker 1: We hear a lot hurt people, hurt people, and Dennis
Speaker 1: Rodman in that moment was hurt because he looked like
Speaker 1: a dumb maass and then he said, I gotta hurt
Speaker 1: this guy. It's really like in a lot of these
Speaker 1: it's people going after raths or fans that are saying
Speaker 1: stuff to him. In this situation, it really is a
Speaker 1: person truly. They're doing his job, which is neutral or
Speaker 1: nicer to the bulls, and he still attacked him. Well.
Speaker 1: I also think though, but the media and it's been
Speaker 1: changed over the years, sometimes the cameraman are too close.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, the stanchions too closer, like so they
Speaker 1: feel like they move it back every few inches. But
Speaker 1: like I think it was yeah, wrong place at the
Speaker 1: wrong time, a little bit of a mixture, did he
Speaker 1: suit did the cameraman end up? So he did? Did
Speaker 1: And that's why I know in the lawsuit, he like
Speaker 1: mentioned testicle like he said that he got nuts, and
Speaker 1: that's why I remember at the time breaking down the
Speaker 1: film with my friends. We were bruder film over like.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's nuts there. I think I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe he's got a long sack. He's an older guy.
Speaker 1: When you get older, a long sack a long stack.
Speaker 1: So again, if he has an extra long sack, then
Speaker 1: that's maybe that's his fault. Don't have a long sack.
Speaker 1: Don't get in the way of one of the greatest
Speaker 1: rebounders of all time who kicks when he rebounds exactly.
Speaker 1: I did act out everyone listening to the podcast, but
Speaker 1: it was a really good act out. Okay, Um, so
Speaker 1: this episode is starting with a bulls pick, got it? O? Um,
Speaker 1: I know where I am. I have my bearing. I
Speaker 1: just want everyone to know I have chosen a no
Speaker 1: basketball and no balls, So no basketball and the breath
Speaker 1: of fresh that we need. Um, I will go next.
Speaker 1: My number three is a person. Okay, it's Tony Stewart
Speaker 1: and he has so many bad times that I was
Speaker 1: actually watching compilation videos of him freaking out to try
Speaker 1: and pick my favorite freakout. Sadly, tragically, Tony Stewart did
Speaker 1: kill a man, and that is not on this my
Speaker 1: list because I don't think of that as a miltonne
Speaker 1: I think of that as like manslaughter. And so if
Speaker 1: we ever do manslaughter on the episode, I will revisit this.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to keep it light and bright, so
Speaker 1: I went with one of his other classics. Um. He
Speaker 1: gets into a wreck with Matt Kinzi and they trade paint,
Speaker 1: you know, number four two cargo and a number fourteen car.
Speaker 1: I love when they talk in cars. It's so fun,
Speaker 1: and so they Tony Stewart is in a car accident.
Speaker 1: He is walking to an ambulance, takes off his helmet
Speaker 1: and chucks it at Matt kenseth car as he's leaving,
Speaker 1: like pitt Row, and then he just walks into the
Speaker 1: ambulance like he is. He could be injured, he could
Speaker 1: he just got into a car accident. And his first
Speaker 1: instinct is how do I funk up Matt Kinset's day?
Speaker 1: And Wow, he's since spoken about trying to get the
Speaker 1: helmet back. He was not fine for that. He's like
Speaker 1: one of those people and and I and I it's
Speaker 1: sad because you see how it did eventually end up
Speaker 1: in tragedy where he just kept getting like a longer
Speaker 1: and longer rope, and NASCAR was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: because even after he throws the helmet, he then like
Speaker 1: Arsenio Hall's the crowd and they love it. Like the
Speaker 1: NASCAR now is different than then, but you can tell
Speaker 1: they seem almost handcuffed by his popularity. And part of
Speaker 1: his popularity is that he's a full blown fucking psychopaths,
Speaker 1: and so there were a lot of times when he
Speaker 1: should have been I mean, there's a there was another
Speaker 1: video he runs up and he takes off a guy
Speaker 1: who's like an official. He takes off his headset throws
Speaker 1: it at him, and then another official comes up, like
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And then he charges that guy
Speaker 1: like he's truly a bull in a china shop, but
Speaker 1: the china shop is other people, and he does not
Speaker 1: care if they die. I remember that video and it
Speaker 1: made me think to myself, it's kind of shocking that
Speaker 1: it is in a regular occurrence in NASCAR, not like
Speaker 1: the extent of what Tony Stewart did, but think about it.
Speaker 1: Their whole profession is almost car accident. Yeah, bumped like
Speaker 1: a little rear end you have this feeling in your
Speaker 1: chest like holy sh it, like I'm scared, and I'm
Speaker 1: also piste off and mad my car insurance gonna go off.
Speaker 1: Now I've done late to whatever I'm gonna be in.
Speaker 1: Take that in times of buy a million. And that's
Speaker 1: Nascar all the time. That's why always saw hockey player
Speaker 1: has always had a bad headache. Have you ever almost
Speaker 1: slipped on ice? That's their whole job is almost that feeling,
Speaker 1: almost slipping on ice. So they want to punch people
Speaker 1: in the phase. So I'm surprised it doesn't happen more
Speaker 1: in NASCAR. Yeah, in racing, it's like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: truly life for death. The margins are like so so
Speaker 1: so slim. At one point, he has a rant just
Speaker 1: ripping the entire Goodyear, entire company. It's stopped to bottom,
Speaker 1: Matt the entire company. I really, I have to recommend.
Speaker 1: It's from CJ's Employer Leach Report. They have the ranking
Speaker 1: of Tony Stewart's top ten tantrums, and I really oh
Speaker 1: and and him killing a person is not even on it,
Speaker 1: like that one. How prolific he is. So I suggest
Speaker 1: you taking a look at that list. I know at
Speaker 1: one point the family of the driver he killed. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure how that ended up, but Tony will say
Speaker 1: this till the day he dies, that it was fully
Speaker 1: an accident, but you do kind of look at his
Speaker 1: record and go an accident with a rage induced psycho
Speaker 1: at the wheel. So that's my He's from Indiana, so
Speaker 1: it feels like I'm going extra hard at him. I am,
Speaker 1: And so that's my p s A about how scary
Speaker 1: racing is but also fun. All right, okay, so my
Speaker 1: number three pick, it's gotta be a tie only. I
Speaker 1: think these combined make a good pick, but also too
Speaker 1: because I was going to start off with Rodman, which
Speaker 1: I should have known you're going to start off with
Speaker 1: a Bowls one, but this one is half bowl so
Speaker 1: the one half of it is we don't we still
Speaker 1: don't know the full details of the story. But Jordan's
Speaker 1: punching Steve Kerr in the head in practice, like what
Speaker 1: did we Maybe I missed the part of why it
Speaker 1: went down in the last dance other than like Steve
Speaker 1: Kerr wasn't playing up to again, Jordan's like he like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if there was a reason. I think
Speaker 1: that's why he was Jordan was disappointed. You can't handle
Speaker 1: my right cross and practice? How could I trust you
Speaker 1: under the bright lights of Salt Lake City? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and what happened He punched him and then later on
Speaker 1: he buried that shot. He buried the shot. So the
Speaker 1: second part of that was, um, it's like it's it's Kobe,
Speaker 1: who again very much has Jordan qualities. But he walked out.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like a terrible roster and I
Speaker 1: just remember this today. But he after scrimmaging and just
Speaker 1: destroying all of his teammates two fifteen season, he walked
Speaker 1: out on everyone in practice and said everyone's soft like
Speaker 1: Sharman and this is why we're not winning, and just
Speaker 1: walked off the court and ended practice for that day
Speaker 1: and on his roster. I mean, man, his last couple
Speaker 1: of years were brutal for him, having to play with
Speaker 1: like Tarik Black, Nicki Young who when he didn't Carre
Speaker 1: Jeremy Lynn after he got like a crazy contract. And
Speaker 1: yet these are Kobe's Like I think he had a
Speaker 1: couple more years and he he just walked down on practice,
Speaker 1: had to meltdown. I I just love how justified you
Speaker 1: both feel in your picks, Like You're like, these are
Speaker 1: my picks, and it is a meltdown. But this is
Speaker 1: why I think they're okay that they did it. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, my man is a psychopath who deserves to
Speaker 1: be in jail. Well, I like to set these guys
Speaker 1: at a normal and again after the last thing, I
Speaker 1: all you can do is but they were at one
Speaker 1: point at a normal level and then it just all
Speaker 1: crumbled for them and they kind of gave up and
Speaker 1: had a little tantrum. I think we're looking at the meltdown,
Speaker 1: like I could see why that happened. East person needs
Speaker 1: to be better. It's real quick. Did you see Augasol
Speaker 1: had a daughter? Yeah, the middle Land? That's real sweet.
Speaker 1: You made me think of it with Kobe, and I
Speaker 1: know how big of Kobe Fancy two are so pau
Speaker 1: Gasol with the Bryant family is like nothing stirs some
Speaker 1: motions in me quite like it's just you know, it's
Speaker 1: such a tragedy and then to see like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: basketball is a community and this it is a brotherhood
Speaker 1: and it is a family, and it's just really it's
Speaker 1: just so beautiful and part of it is like Pow
Speaker 1: is so funny looking like you know, he looks like
Speaker 1: a Disney care he looks like the candlestick a little
Speaker 1: bit in Beauty and the Beast, and so he's got
Speaker 1: any he's Spanish. I almost was like, well, but it's
Speaker 1: it's not that. But like the foreign and the and
Speaker 1: the tall, it's all great. I love it, um, Joe,
Speaker 1: give us your number two pick. A number two pick
Speaker 1: is a minor league manager of the Mississippi Braves. Megan
Speaker 1: likes this one. I can see who famously was ejected
Speaker 1: from a game. This was in two thousand six or
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, And I love a good manager one.
Speaker 1: There's so many good ones. Obviously Blue Panella has a
Speaker 1: bunch in Bobby Cox or some really famous ones who
Speaker 1: went off back in the day to This one is
Speaker 1: particularly great because not only does he throw every base possible,
Speaker 1: he covers home play up with all the like the
Speaker 1: sand around the in the batter's box, covers like barries
Speaker 1: homeplay like a little child. Then he goes behind the
Speaker 1: pictures mound and starts doing an army crawl towards the
Speaker 1: pictures mound. It's the rosin bag, bites it like it's
Speaker 1: a grenade and throws the rosin bag at the umpire
Speaker 1: like a grenade, and it lands at the umpire speed.
Speaker 1: The umpire doesn't move a muscle. He's I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: let this guy keep hamming it up for Sports Center.
Speaker 1: And then on his way out, he leaves through center field,
Speaker 1: so he walks through the outfield and he kind of
Speaker 1: does like a whole Cogan, like revving up the crowd
Speaker 1: a little bit, pumping it up. And at that moment,
Speaker 1: I remember thinking myself, this man is a star. He's
Speaker 1: a legend. His name is Phil Wellman, and he has
Speaker 1: his own Wikipedia page and it is dedicated entirely to
Speaker 1: this meltdown. This is the this is the timeline. Uh,
Speaker 1: this was my number one pick. That's how I. If
Speaker 1: I had like Phil Wellman tattooed to my arm, we'll
Speaker 1: be worried. He covers home play with dirt. He throws
Speaker 1: third base into the outfield, he armored, crawls to the
Speaker 1: pitching mound, throws the chalk back like a grenade, and
Speaker 1: then on his way out, he picks up second base
Speaker 1: and takes it with him. He left with second base,
Speaker 1: and the strangest thing is that all of the us
Speaker 1: are just standing there doing nothing. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: in baseball we see umps that are like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get in my face, I'm gonna get in base
Speaker 1: even more, like they get like hyped for it. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if this minor league crew was different,
Speaker 1: but they're just standing watching like an off Broadway show,
Speaker 1: and they seemed perfectly fine with everything that's happening. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm happy they didn't stop him because it is
Speaker 1: burned in my memory and and it's I know it's
Speaker 1: a man freaking out, but it's like so delightful and
Speaker 1: funny that I think it's like a lighthearted meltdown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely lighthearted and definitely yeah. I think he started to
Speaker 1: like really ham it up a little bit there, but
Speaker 1: that's what made fun to me. It was great that
Speaker 1: it was a minor league manager because the minor leagues
Speaker 1: always have this, Like anyone who's ever sing the movie
Speaker 1: Bull Durham knows, the minor leagues always have like sideshow stuff.
Speaker 1: They've got like silly nights. They'll have like a Star
Speaker 1: Wars night where they encourage people to bring their own lightsabers,
Speaker 1: and they have like, you know, they have these mascots
Speaker 1: that are really just like drunks that they just give
Speaker 1: five bucks to to go dance on a dugout, And
Speaker 1: it's just there's a lot of theatrics to minor league baseball.
Speaker 1: So that's why I was like, all right, it's kind
Speaker 1: of cool that they said keep going with it, but
Speaker 1: you knew he was mentally gone at the same time.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, with also a minor league baseball and
Speaker 1: just everything we've been told her, Like we've seen documentaries
Speaker 1: like how worth it is it for anyone if there
Speaker 1: isn't potential like moving up, like you're just gonna snap
Speaker 1: at certain points. So again, like I totally get why
Speaker 1: he did this. Oh yeah, I bet to his players.
Speaker 1: He's like a hero too. Like so I wonder if
Speaker 1: he was a theater major in college because it's really
Speaker 1: like when he's army crawling, you're like, what is he?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? And then you like he had a vision.
Speaker 1: It had it had a full arc of a story.
Speaker 1: He blew the man up. It's just so funny and good.
Speaker 1: That was my number one pick, So I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: a little reworking. Um. My number two pick is the
Speaker 1: John McEnroe Wimbledon. John McEnroe much like Tony Stewart without
Speaker 1: the manslaughter, has a law long history of freaking out,
Speaker 1: and in tennis that's the antithesis of what they want
Speaker 1: and what they think is to corm especially at Wimbledon,
Speaker 1: like you have to wear all white. There's strawberries, there's cream.
Speaker 1: Everyone's really quiet and rich. And he it was his
Speaker 1: first first round match. He went on to win the tournament,
Speaker 1: so he's obviously heavily favored. He gets uh served called
Speaker 1: out and then he utters his famous line you cannot
Speaker 1: be serious, and is yelling that at the lines judge,
Speaker 1: and then is screaming to everyone in the stadium and
Speaker 1: just keep saying it over and over again. I think
Speaker 1: he was penalized like one point, went on to win
Speaker 1: the match, and this incident became so infamous that he
Speaker 1: named his biography you Cannot be Serious, the John mcinreh story.
Speaker 1: It's great. I was waiting for him to get up.
Speaker 1: He's the post your boy from meltdowns. When everyone thinks
Speaker 1: of a mouthdown, it goes right back to McEnroe. I
Speaker 1: think Megan and I are particularly fond of him. The
Speaker 1: fact that he looks like you could be one of
Speaker 1: our uncles. I's got the whole irish thing that we
Speaker 1: got going on, and yeah, the you cannot be serious
Speaker 1: is just such a perfect thing to say do an
Speaker 1: official like are you know? It's like are you You're
Speaker 1: a joke? And he would for the most is he
Speaker 1: has then made his whole post tennis career off of that.
Speaker 1: He's embraced it. So if you're a psycho listening to
Speaker 1: this podcast right now, get help, but also embrace it.
Speaker 1: The first step to doll the problem isn't meanting you
Speaker 1: have one, and then you could go from there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think like Happy Gilmore was based off of him.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you know, and like you talk about
Speaker 1: someone who embraced it afterwards or made their career like
Speaker 1: Barkley outspoken, like these are guys who they were like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna continue to be myself in the game, and
Speaker 1: then when they retired and now they have very front
Speaker 1: facing careers after that. I was on a zoom call
Speaker 1: with John McEnroe recently. You don't need he my camera
Speaker 1: was off, but my name was there, Okay, so like
Speaker 1: I was. There were only three of us and my
Speaker 1: camera was off, but he felt me for sure, and
Speaker 1: he was he my presence, honey, And he was saying
Speaker 1: that he almost feels bad for the tennis stars of
Speaker 1: today because he was kind of not by the sport,
Speaker 1: but by outside forces and cool people encourage, like, be
Speaker 1: yourself if this is how you express yourself, break a
Speaker 1: fucking racket, who cares do do funny things like be
Speaker 1: a rock star within your sport. And he feels like, now,
Speaker 1: I mean, Federer wouldn't kill a spider, you know, like they,
Speaker 1: I mean, Djocovic smashed a woman's esophagus, so he's got
Speaker 1: a little psycho in there. But but tennis, really it's
Speaker 1: turned and if you see someone do what McEnroe did
Speaker 1: back then, now it's like, up, they're terrible. And he's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like they've been robbed of getting to be
Speaker 1: fully insane. It's definitely a sport that you encourage more
Speaker 1: personality because I feel like the most you hear about
Speaker 1: a lot of tennis stars is who they're dating. And
Speaker 1: you know, it went from McEnroe to Agassi, who was
Speaker 1: like fun tennis player, a little overrated, but he was like,
Speaker 1: oh I wear silly hats and this is the early
Speaker 1: nine I mean code commercials. But yeah, they definitely need
Speaker 1: another guy that's like a happy Gilmore. You need someone
Speaker 1: where it's like this guy's not from your country club,
Speaker 1: but not Jocovic, Like he took it, Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: took it too far. But there was a guy who
Speaker 1: because they come out with those like giant bags and
Speaker 1: so you have like three or four rackets in there
Speaker 1: in case you break a string. And there was a
Speaker 1: guy a few years ago who broke, like on purpose,
Speaker 1: smashed every single one of his rackets on the ground
Speaker 1: and having I I broke a racket, smashed it on
Speaker 1: the ground in front of my parents when I was
Speaker 1: a teen, and it felt so fucking good. But then
Speaker 1: I like looked up and I see my parents and
Speaker 1: there I can just like see how much the racket
Speaker 1: costs in their eyes, you know, like they're like, what
Speaker 1: do you You're losing your freshman Matt. It's just in't Wimbledon,
Speaker 1: Like you just cost me two hundred and seventy dollars
Speaker 1: a little bit, But but I got any one but
Speaker 1: one racket was on today and I'm not realizing. Seinfeld
Speaker 1: as a TV show had two full episodes that were
Speaker 1: tennis theme. Kramer as the US Open ball boy, Yes,
Speaker 1: there's yeah kramer Is the ball Boy was hysterical, and
Speaker 1: then another one where Elaine let a boss borrow a
Speaker 1: racket and they'd like try to get it back. And
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, man Seinfeld, first stand up comedian, he must
Speaker 1: have been so unrelatable to all those other Manhattan comedians.
Speaker 1: He's going to tennis, he's doing all this other He
Speaker 1: was in LA at that point, so he was probably
Speaker 1: these are probably l A stories seeping in. Yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: like rich guy stuff. It doesn't doesn't give that Manhattan
Speaker 1: upper west side guy type of vibe to me. He
Speaker 1: looks he has like the shoes of someone who likes tennis.
Speaker 1: Um and I mean that offensively. Okay, c J, give
Speaker 1: us your number two, my number two. I'm surprised this
Speaker 1: when this didn't make your listening honorable mention Megan Bobby
Speaker 1: Knight against Perdue in something like that. But and I
Speaker 1: still don't know if this was the one time he
Speaker 1: did or if he had done this a few times.
Speaker 1: But he had several meltdowns. But this one is the
Speaker 1: chair threw a chair onto the court, which then was
Speaker 1: just like parodied or like other people when they wanted
Speaker 1: to have like fake meltdowns did as like an homage.
Speaker 1: But Bobby Knight is I think king of I guess
Speaker 1: meltdowns for coaching. He really is. No, That's why I
Speaker 1: actually like fully forgot. I didn't know he wasn't and
Speaker 1: it was against Perdue. Did you know that? I did
Speaker 1: know that well. And Bobby Knights a classic example of
Speaker 1: someone who behaved poorly for decades and then he ended
Speaker 1: up being fired because I think he shoved a student
Speaker 1: who was not a basketball player, which I think if
Speaker 1: it had been ten years earlier, they would have be
Speaker 1: like all right, but it really felt like it was
Speaker 1: like the final straw. And then he went to Texas
Speaker 1: Tech and he act like a psycho there too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for with the shoving a student, Yes, it's terrible. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they were just like it's been too much of this,
Speaker 1: like let's let's start fresh. This is the last straw.
Speaker 1: And remember the kid was like he was walking and
Speaker 1: was like hey, Night like addressed him in a way
Speaker 1: that he found disrespectful, and it's like, yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: this kid wanted to get a rise out of you.
Speaker 1: Like if you see if you're twenty and you see
Speaker 1: a famous psycho, you're like, I'm gonna get this guy,
Speaker 1: and then he did. What I don't know about the
Speaker 1: chair toss was how much the chair was already folded
Speaker 1: and it slid perfectly across the court. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? It was almost like what shuffle board like
Speaker 1: if you would have like had a twenty points if
Speaker 1: I get this far. There was no like awkwardness about it,
Speaker 1: because a lot of times you throw a chair, it's
Speaker 1: not like a graceful thing to throw. But that thing
Speaker 1: was like perfectly split out, like you would have been
Speaker 1: great at that Canadian game what's it called curling or whatever.
Speaker 1: Now you you did some tablework your wedding. You smashed
Speaker 1: a table. I love how these stories go to um.
Speaker 1: You remember when I got into it with another comedian.
Speaker 1: I'll admit this everybody, your wedding. I'm gonna get to
Speaker 1: the wedding real quickly. But I love how stories get
Speaker 1: like I smashed. I didn't smash the table, but howevery
Speaker 1: takes on a life of its own with meltdown stories.
Speaker 1: I once pushed a comedian and there was one step
Speaker 1: behind him, went down one step. Two days later everyone's
Speaker 1: telling me, I heard you thrown down six flights of stairs.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Um Drew Michael, everybody, I'll throw the
Speaker 1: name out that some gossip for the listeners. Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: But also word to the wise, don't talk ship when
Speaker 1: you're standing in front of stairs. That's a classic crazy
Speaker 1: man phrase. The table incident about and my wedding, the
Speaker 1: DJ who was recommended from other people. I saw him
Speaker 1: at other weddings and thought, this guy's good, will go
Speaker 1: with him. The week of my wedding was like, m
Speaker 1: I A. I couldn't get ahold of him. He obviously
Speaker 1: showed up, but was like, hey, had some email exchanges
Speaker 1: that you didn't follow through, and he's like, no, I
Speaker 1: got We're good. I had to do not playlist c J.
Speaker 1: You guys had a great band in retrospect. That's the
Speaker 1: way to go, because you could be like, hey, don't
Speaker 1: hit that fucking note. DJ plays a song, it's being played.
Speaker 1: I do not playlist and a must playlist. I had
Speaker 1: already heard two songs and they do not playlist. So
Speaker 1: I'm already like getting mad, even though I'm still having
Speaker 1: a good time. Then I looked at the clock and
Speaker 1: I'm like, we had twenty minutes left, and I need
Speaker 1: to hear about nine songs on the must playlist. And
Speaker 1: there was a little high top bar table, not a
Speaker 1: table that people would sit at, but a table that
Speaker 1: you just kind of rest your drink upon. And I
Speaker 1: just kind of like give it a quick flip and
Speaker 1: looked over and I think like one of my wife's
Speaker 1: uncles was like, hey, hey, you know, And so a
Speaker 1: few people got upset, but not enough where most people
Speaker 1: who saw it were like Joe, even on his wedding,
Speaker 1: this guy likes on brand, right, Well, yeah, because you
Speaker 1: want someone to feel comfortable enough on their wedding they
Speaker 1: to be who they are, and if that means flipping
Speaker 1: a cocktail table, then that's what it means. It was
Speaker 1: a really fun wedding. Uh, let's take a break and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back with our number one picks. And
Speaker 1: we are back with our number one picks, and oh
Speaker 1: I'm first. Wow. Okay, so I had to do some
Speaker 1: movie around, so I don't have any honorable mention. So
Speaker 1: my number one pick is Mike Tyson fill in the
Speaker 1: blank biting Evander Holyfield's ear. June seven, they are in
Speaker 1: their heavyweight rematch and during the third round, Tyson bites
Speaker 1: his ear he had had a biting history too, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that he was a biter um. He
Speaker 1: ended up being disqualified, he got like a chunk of
Speaker 1: it out. I mean, it's very strange and terrifying. He
Speaker 1: ended up being disqualified suspended from boxing, but that didn't
Speaker 1: stop his meteoric continued rise to fame, and that pisces
Speaker 1: me off. Hem I like, I get it at listen.
Speaker 1: I know that there's people that like Mike Tyson. We
Speaker 1: seem to really forget that he was convicted of reaping
Speaker 1: a woman. And I don't think we need him anymore.
Speaker 1: I I hangover fuck you every It's just like everything
Speaker 1: that he touches to me is tarnished. And I hear
Speaker 1: people in the sports world who I really really respect
Speaker 1: speak positively about him, and it really pisces me off. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he sucks, and I just don't understand how he keeps
Speaker 1: It's like he has a face tattoo. He was so
Speaker 1: funny in this movie. It's like, Wow, have you forgotten
Speaker 1: every single thing? Joe? I'm so happy to see you
Speaker 1: shaking your head in agreement with me. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember. I used to have a joke where
Speaker 1: I talked about how people were saying that, like remember
Speaker 1: when Tiger Woods cheated on his wife a bunch of times,
Speaker 1: there was like a poll on CNN, will America forgive him?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, forgive them? I mean we forgave Ray
Speaker 1: Lewis you forgave Mike Mike Tyson, Like, literally, you're right,
Speaker 1: you said he was convicted of rape. I almost wanted
Speaker 1: to do these people forget about it because yeah, he
Speaker 1: bid someone zero if he was a rapist, And it
Speaker 1: is insane to me how everyone just forgets about that,
Speaker 1: especially in today's climate. And I almost wonder if it's
Speaker 1: just people ignoring it because he was so dominant. I
Speaker 1: think I don't even think it's boxing related. I think
Speaker 1: they think he is like a funny entertainer. I love
Speaker 1: p t I. It is like the basis of everything.
Speaker 1: I listened to it every single day on the podcast,
Speaker 1: and they love him in a way that I'm like,
Speaker 1: you guys are usually like pretty good, especially the stuff
Speaker 1: that's been going on right now, and it angs me
Speaker 1: and it makes me want to like contact them and
Speaker 1: be like please stop. Mike Tyson's son, who I know
Speaker 1: is innocent in all of this is an intern for them,
Speaker 1: Like they say, Mike Tyson, They're like, he is the
Speaker 1: most entertaining, charismatic, likable athlete of all time, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm I on an alternate land it. I think what's
Speaker 1: happened is because we watched him for a decade be
Speaker 1: this incredible fighter, and then that stuff had happened, and
Speaker 1: then he came back as like a pop culture cameo
Speaker 1: and they're like, look at him, He's funny. He's kind
Speaker 1: of like he's like reformed. But I don't know there
Speaker 1: was no ever like process really of like any sort
Speaker 1: of like reformation or like you know, lessons learned. But
Speaker 1: I think that's why it was like at one point
Speaker 1: we were all scared of him, but now he's like
Speaker 1: a tiger that you could put your hand in his
Speaker 1: mouth and listen. I don't want to be called a
Speaker 1: hypocrite because we obviously talked about Kobe earlier in the episode,
Speaker 1: and Kobe had a very similar bad, bad, bad thing happened,
Speaker 1: and I think through his death we've learned how remorseful
Speaker 1: he was and how much he admitted fault in that situation.
Speaker 1: And I don't even want to bring in like he
Speaker 1: wasn't convicted, because it's like that actually doesn't matter at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. It's it's how you react
Speaker 1: from that. And I think Kobe took it and said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be an amazing father. And I admit
Speaker 1: to this woman that I thought one thing was happening,
Speaker 1: but another thing was happening and I and I did
Speaker 1: rape her, and I and I'm like so sorry for that.
Speaker 1: I know this is like getting heavy, but like because
Speaker 1: I guess it's similar in that in that instance, but
Speaker 1: they're so dissimilar in how they handled it afterwards. I
Speaker 1: don't think being cast in a movie is is a redemption.
Speaker 1: I don't think that means you show remorse. I think
Speaker 1: working for women's basketball and for your daughters, and for
Speaker 1: doing everything in your power to uplift the women in
Speaker 1: your life, and when all the women around you say
Speaker 1: and can vouch for you, I think that is actual
Speaker 1: redemption and it does not erase it, but at least
Speaker 1: it's a path forward. And I don't think Mike Tyson
Speaker 1: has done anything to deserve the path forward that he's
Speaker 1: been granted. Yeah, I agree, he didn't atone for anything.
Speaker 1: I feel like he didn't do nearly enough jail time
Speaker 1: for it. He comes back from it has the mouthdown
Speaker 1: of the biting the ear thing. I mean this was
Speaker 1: after he was after this big comeback in a big
Speaker 1: store comeback. He was a voice on a Simpsons episode.
Speaker 1: I believe afterwards too, and um, yeah, because I think
Speaker 1: it was like he was in jail. I'm not exactly positive.
Speaker 1: I hope I'm not wrong. And then the Holy Field
Speaker 1: thing was the comeback because everyone was like, this fight
Speaker 1: should have happened in their primes. They were both a
Speaker 1: little bit older, so that was like the whole thing.
Speaker 1: That's I think the whole story of everybody match. These
Speaker 1: two should have fought five years ago, but he got
Speaker 1: on the way or whatever. But yeah, I agree with you, Pcent.
Speaker 1: I think Kobe, yeah, it was a horrible thing, but
Speaker 1: it seems like every decision in his life afterwards was
Speaker 1: to atone for that. And yeah, with a lot of
Speaker 1: giving back where I've not really seen that. I think
Speaker 1: you said it best. CJ has become like a character
Speaker 1: and everyone just acts like he's this lovable cartoon, but
Speaker 1: I don't really see him that way either. I'm glad
Speaker 1: that I'm on an alternate planet. But at least you
Speaker 1: guys are here with me. That makes me feel better
Speaker 1: because I thought I was just truly living on Mars.
Speaker 1: But I got some good ones. All right, Okay, c J,
Speaker 1: you you give us your number one. That was gonna
Speaker 1: be my number one pick. We should have talked to
Speaker 1: each other before, but that's what happens. But I thought
Speaker 1: c J was just gonna pick. I don't someone you know,
Speaker 1: throwing a pizza at someone three times. Well, now my
Speaker 1: alternate pick, which is no, is by no means I
Speaker 1: think that my number one. But I want to mention
Speaker 1: the Knicks in a way like at some point when
Speaker 1: we talked about melt sounds like I think there's a
Speaker 1: few things, but the couple that I remember is want
Speaker 1: to get. I think the Knicks. I think John Starks
Speaker 1: sort of melting down physically in his performance, and Spike
Speaker 1: Lee like the whole choking that that was like one.
Speaker 1: But and then there was one in two thousand twelve
Speaker 1: that I always loved too. Whenever the game is over
Speaker 1: and like someone messed up, I love hearing the stories
Speaker 1: like in the locker room. So this one is after
Speaker 1: I think the game too. Two thousand twelve first round
Speaker 1: Knicks heat, and this is the season that Jeremy Lynn
Speaker 1: played for the Knicks had li insanity but then got
Speaker 1: hurt and Carmelo and Amari we're back, and Amari punched
Speaker 1: a fire extinguisher and took himself out of the series.
Speaker 1: And then a few years later, Lebron punched a chalkboard
Speaker 1: after I think it was the two thousand eighteen finals.
Speaker 1: It was after the j r. Which is kind of
Speaker 1: like a brain meltdown, which, um so I just it's
Speaker 1: and you talked about early just as like a general
Speaker 1: example of just players punching things, like we just love
Speaker 1: to punch things or punch a hole in the wall,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I just like when it's a specific object,
Speaker 1: like a fire extinguisher. So I just wanted to mention
Speaker 1: that by no means the greatest, but it was a
Speaker 1: fun one to mention. Well, I think the Knicks are
Speaker 1: a great pick because they are sort of a organizational
Speaker 1: melt down. They feel like they feel like they're in
Speaker 1: free fall, but they've been that way for now decades,
Speaker 1: Like at some point are they gonna hit the ground?
Speaker 1: They just keeping like and they never splat, which I
Speaker 1: guess is good for them that they don't splat, but
Speaker 1: who being a fan of there seems very difficult. Exhausting, Yeah, exhausting.
Speaker 1: John Starks did headbut a lot of headbuts in the
Speaker 1: sports meltdown world, So honorable mention to all the headbuts
Speaker 1: out there. All right, Joe, why don't you bring us
Speaker 1: home with your number one pick? Alright? My number one
Speaker 1: definitely feels like a little too Chicago for me. But
Speaker 1: this guy was like a hero of mine for a
Speaker 1: good few years there. Megan, you probably had a run
Speaker 1: in with him when you were in turning from BC
Speaker 1: Sports Chicago. It's one Carlos Brono, I had a run
Speaker 1: in with Zambrano's cousin. You can't just leave us on
Speaker 1: that one. What was he just like stared at my
Speaker 1: butt intensely when I was in the locker room and
Speaker 1: and but I remember being like who is that? And
Speaker 1: they were like, Simbrono's cousin, Like, where the fund is
Speaker 1: he even here? Cousin? Yeah, who cares? That's like the
Speaker 1: worst part of the entourage. A cousin turtle turtle looked
Speaker 1: at your ass. So Zimbrono had a game in which
Speaker 1: he did everything you could do as a baseball player.
Speaker 1: It was a play at the plate after giving up
Speaker 1: a big lead, and the Cubs were released scuffling. At
Speaker 1: this point it looked bang bang umpire called him safe.
Speaker 1: Sombrono immediately pointed at the umpire like, I think you.
Speaker 1: You said, are you you blind? Piece of fucking ship?
Speaker 1: You pretty much? I don't know how you guys are
Speaker 1: swearing on this podcast, but it's exactly what he said.
Speaker 1: You could read his lips clear as hell. Um objects him. Zimbrono,
Speaker 1: of than does the allium out of the game. No,
Speaker 1: your game, that's like you get from me because I quit.
Speaker 1: That's that equivalent. Then Zimbrono takes the baseball. Now, mind
Speaker 1: you he has a round home plate. He chucks it
Speaker 1: into the bleacher really like sixty ft throw, which is like, look,
Speaker 1: pictures have strong arms, so it's not like unheard of
Speaker 1: to be that strong. Trevor Bauer last year in a
Speaker 1: game throw the ball from the mound over the center
Speaker 1: field wall in Kansas City, which that's a good mountdown.
Speaker 1: Two people shall look that up. He's he's had kind
Speaker 1: of like a fun track after that. Well, what I
Speaker 1: loved about the Bauer thing and I'll get back to Zerrano.
Speaker 1: Terry Francona comes out and he's already like what the
Speaker 1: fun was that? Like before he even gets to the mound,
Speaker 1: and and Bauer puts his hand on Francona's shoulder, me
Speaker 1: like I'm really sorry. And then they traded him like
Speaker 1: two days later. But Zimbrono then goes into the dugout
Speaker 1: does the classic See you're talking about punching a fire extinguisher.
Speaker 1: Punching is always hilarious. He boxes the water the gatorade
Speaker 1: I remember this now, and then threw some balls onto
Speaker 1: the field, went into the dug out. He didn't fight
Speaker 1: a teammate this time, but Simbrono was notorious for fighting.
Speaker 1: You got to fight with Derek Lee and Michael Barrett.
Speaker 1: He gave like nine stitches in the mouth to Brono
Speaker 1: was like a six ft five inch two hundred like
Speaker 1: sixty pound he was. He's the tight end in the NFL.
Speaker 1: The picture in a Psycho And then in the post game,
Speaker 1: they asked the Cubs manager at the time, who do
Speaker 1: I believe was Louke Panella, who's pretty famous for Yeah,
Speaker 1: they said, uh, what did you talk to big does Zambrano,
Speaker 1: what a big z have to say? And he said, oh,
Speaker 1: he says he's retiring favorite of melt do because that's
Speaker 1: I've done the whole I've had that on stage where
Speaker 1: I go, you know what, I should have taken the
Speaker 1: Fireman's test. I hate all your people, and I told
Speaker 1: times when I've had those mouthdowns, like none of you
Speaker 1: are fucking special, and CO go to a ghost, your band,
Speaker 1: your losers, and then like you walk off and you
Speaker 1: tell the other producers, I'm never I'm never doing this.
Speaker 1: I relate to the this was so bad. I can
Speaker 1: never show my face in this world again. What what
Speaker 1: is it about baseball where you're allowed to just have
Speaker 1: like the game is slow and like because dugout, freak
Speaker 1: outs and meltdowns are always on eleven, like just crazy
Speaker 1: c J. I really think it's because it's every day.
Speaker 1: They see each other every day for a hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty games. Spring training now starts in mid February, and
Speaker 1: a regular non global pandemic year starts in like early February.
Speaker 1: Pitchers and catchers report mid February, and then if you're
Speaker 1: a good team, you're going through October every day. So
Speaker 1: I think like when things start to go bad and
Speaker 1: it's a hard sport, it's not like basketball or football
Speaker 1: where your athleticism could overcome some stuff. In baseball, if
Speaker 1: you're something, it's over I also think in the dugout,
Speaker 1: there's so many props, Like there's balls to throw, They're
Speaker 1: like there's just in basketball you see someone you know,
Speaker 1: get like a gatorade bottle and chuck it or a towel.
Speaker 1: But like baseball, their shelves in there, you know, like
Speaker 1: they can just they can funk it up like they're
Speaker 1: in someone's home. Almost. Yeah, Zambrano lou Panella, like, I
Speaker 1: honestly feel honored that I even got to be around
Speaker 1: that era of Chicago baseball because obviously what was happening
Speaker 1: on the South Side was pure craziness too. Between I mean,
Speaker 1: Ozzie Gien and Jay Mariotti could have their own greatest
Speaker 1: Meltdown list. It was really a fun time of psychos,
Speaker 1: but innocent psychos. Yeah, I thought about like maybe and
Speaker 1: Azzi Gian never turned it off. He was always that
Speaker 1: for a true meltdown, you have to have moments where
Speaker 1: you seem level headed and then you just go off
Speaker 1: the deep end. So I almost felt like Azzi Gian
Speaker 1: was someone I kind of avoided. Ronner tests. I'm surprising
Speaker 1: of us threw him out there. I think, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: they have malice. I don't think that's a meltdown. I
Speaker 1: think he had something thrown at him and he reacted
Speaker 1: to it. Everyone. Yeah, thank you. See knows where my
Speaker 1: where my allegiance lies. Um Joe, you'll love this. I
Speaker 1: today was the first day I left the house in
Speaker 1: four days, and the you know how it gets out here,
Speaker 1: but it's it's worse right now. Guys, if you are
Speaker 1: able to I know there's a lot of things to
Speaker 1: help right now, but if there's any way you can
Speaker 1: help the Red Cross with the wildfires out here. I
Speaker 1: bring that up to say I did drive by Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 1: The visibility is very very bad right now, especially like
Speaker 1: higher up in the air, and I saw not one
Speaker 1: but two planes circling Dodger Stadium with signs making fun
Speaker 1: of the astros who are in town. So they said,
Speaker 1: you know what, we may not be able to see,
Speaker 1: but we gotta get these puppies in the air, And
Speaker 1: the one that I was able to read said good
Speaker 1: luck stealing this sign. Astros che ers, um, and I
Speaker 1: just love that even in the midst of a terrible
Speaker 1: natural disaster and global pandemic, we still find a way
Speaker 1: to say fuck you to the Astros. And that's actually
Speaker 1: what America needs right now. Damn straight. We don't need
Speaker 1: a government that helps assistance. We need more people shooting
Speaker 1: on the Astros because that comes from the right place.
Speaker 1: You know, you cheated, you stole, fuck you. We could
Speaker 1: all get on the right side of that. How are
Speaker 1: they able to keep that World serious championship? Because baseball
Speaker 1: is Look, it's one of my favorite sports, but it
Speaker 1: is run by the dumbest human beings. Actually, someone plowed
Speaker 1: the idea of theo Epstein take being come from in
Speaker 1: the next Commissioner of Baseball, because he's what else did
Speaker 1: the Epstein need to accomplish? I mean, Cleveland Indians having
Speaker 1: won the World season seven years. I guess you could
Speaker 1: go there and say that fan base, they're just running
Speaker 1: my stupid people. And I agree with you, Megan, it's
Speaker 1: nice that we're coming together over this. What is particularly
Speaker 1: awesome is it seems like everyone that the Astros wronged
Speaker 1: is having a great year. The Dodgers are dominating you.
Speaker 1: Darvish was on my beloved Cubs. He got they cheated
Speaker 1: against him, he got they crushed him in that World
Speaker 1: Series and they did. Remember this is I can do
Speaker 1: this for you guys. Remember the one guy did the
Speaker 1: I thing. He didn't do it. You didn't you didn't
Speaker 1: do it. I was saying the record, Joe did not
Speaker 1: do it. He just he said I and held it in.
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure it's a podcast. Joe
Speaker 1: is a good man. Yeah, yeah, I didn't actually do it.
Speaker 1: I was trying to remind I didn't know what to
Speaker 1: call that. What do you call that? A visual slur?
Speaker 1: Thank you to the visual slur things. So you darbish
Speaker 1: like that was a bad World Series for me to
Speaker 1: deal with all the questions about how do you feel
Speaker 1: about this guy insulting your heritage too. I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened. I was one of the best pitchers in baseball,
Speaker 1: and it's like they know what's coming. So the Cubs
Speaker 1: signed the following year. He went from that World Series
Speaker 1: to the Cubs. He was terrible his first year with
Speaker 1: the Cubs because he was trying to fix a problem
Speaker 1: that didn't exist. He thought he had like he thought
Speaker 1: he was tipping his page Jesse. He goes, there must
Speaker 1: be something like mechanics that tell the hitter when a
Speaker 1: curveball's coming, so I have to change the way I
Speaker 1: pitch because I'm gonna get rocked. It turns out no,
Speaker 1: they were using high technology to cheat against you, and
Speaker 1: now that Darvish knows that, since the Astros have been exposed,
Speaker 1: Darvish is seven and two with like the he's like
Speaker 1: second in the league. In the r A, he's like
Speaker 1: second and straight. He's like a cy young candidate, and
Speaker 1: it's awesome to see because all these people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's done, when really he was just a victim of
Speaker 1: a cheating scandal. It's like when you're doing a show
Speaker 1: and you're like, god, I'm really they just do not
Speaker 1: like me, and you're like what am I doing wrong?
Speaker 1: And then you like go back to the green room
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, you know, everybody's from Sweden and
Speaker 1: you're like, well, what the funk? I didn't know everybody
Speaker 1: was from So now I feel so much better. I
Speaker 1: thought I was terrible at comedy. They don't speak English,
Speaker 1: so I'm actually fine and that yeah, I relate to you.
Speaker 1: Darvish in that way. I'm I'm happy he's having a
Speaker 1: redemption story. Yeah. The Astros what a representation of a
Speaker 1: lot of things that's wrong. And I loved that little
Speaker 1: guy all to bay. I wanted to put him in
Speaker 1: my pocket, carry him around. I thought it was so
Speaker 1: freaking isn't he I think he's up there. I think
Speaker 1: he's breaking up there. Joe, where can our listeners find you?
Speaker 1: I know our listeners will in your podcast on all
Speaker 1: of your social media. Yeah, so I have a podcast
Speaker 1: was called kill Gowns pub it's still kind of is.
Speaker 1: I just call it the Joe kill Gown Podcast now,
Speaker 1: just to make it easier for people to search, kind
Speaker 1: of recreate bar conversations. Both c J and Megan have
Speaker 1: been on and they've been fantastic. And I also my
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. I put a lot of I upload a
Speaker 1: lot of videos, podcast clips, a ton of like almost
Speaker 1: three hours of stand up clips are on there now
Speaker 1: and TikTok. I post less stuff on TikTok my Twitter.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for comedy, don't go to Twitter, because
Speaker 1: I just tweet about the Cubs now, Cubs recap, c
Speaker 1: J and I watch your He'll go. We got a
Speaker 1: New Cubs recap. So today's was kind of funny because
Speaker 1: the Bears had just won the no hitter happened, and
Speaker 1: I like four or five friends in my garage, and um,
Speaker 1: they're all yelling like Danny Collis and Bobby Buds are
Speaker 1: yelling Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself like in the background,
Speaker 1: and they're just being idiots. Okay, uh, final final thoughts,
Speaker 1: what do you think the Bears record is going to be? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I was hoping for four and twelve and we could
Speaker 1: get the first pick. I want that Lawrence going to
Speaker 1: be the quarterback. I don't think mix Robinsky is ever
Speaker 1: gonna be consistent of quarterback to win playoff games. I
Speaker 1: don't think Naggi is the guy either there. So the
Speaker 1: quicker we figure this out and restart pace is not
Speaker 1: a good GM. He's made some decent mid round draft picks,
Speaker 1: but he's first round picks have been busts. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of done with this era of Bears football.
Speaker 1: So even though I want them to win every game,
Speaker 1: I'm not holding out high hopes. Okay, you're you're hoping
Speaker 1: for a few wins. That's the thing with like With baseball,
Speaker 1: it's such a long season you just kind of hope
Speaker 1: for you can get lightning in a bottle. And football,
Speaker 1: once you're owing three, that's your season essentially, and then
Speaker 1: you have to sit through fifteen more weeks of just
Speaker 1: bad football. So I don't really and it's not like fun.
Speaker 1: Like basketball, we could root for individuals to take over.
Speaker 1: I love Allen Robinson, but we have a bad quarterback,
Speaker 1: so I'm not expecting Allen Robinson to put up great stats,
Speaker 1: where in basketball some guy could just take over and
Speaker 1: be like, my team sucks, but I'm gonna put thirty tonight.
Speaker 1: It's just yeah. So that's why football, when your team
Speaker 1: is bad, it's it's rough. And I'm not doing fantasy football.
Speaker 1: And this year neither I said no to all of it.
Speaker 1: Um but Bears are one of no though, so they're
Speaker 1: already disappointing. You were even disappointing you even through winning,
Speaker 1: and I think that's really beautiful. You can find me
Speaker 1: at Megan Gaily at Better Megan Gaily on Instagram. They'll
Speaker 1: be all new bubble Machine on Thursday. C J at
Speaker 1: CJ told on Everything and yeah, I just be tweeting
Speaker 1: you be tweeting, We're just happy to be here, happy
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