WEBVTT - Greatest Meltdowns with Joe Kilgallon 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:10.760 Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio. Hello, 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.080 and welcome to another episode of the Greatest. I'm Megan Gaily, 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.479 joined by my husband and co host C J. Tildano. Hello, 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.080 how professional sounded very very official. Well, I'm worried because 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.880 I have people tweeting at you that I sounded drunk 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.640 and or high on the last episode and it was 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.280 nine AM, and so now I think I was stone sober. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.640 I'm stone sober right now. Now. I'm worried I phased 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:35.280 into a part of my life where I just have 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:40.320 drunk lady voice even when I'm sober. Well, guess that 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.360 we have is maybe not the best person to be, Like, yeah, 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.680 completely sober all the time and very well behaved. You're 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:51.519 supposed to give guests nice intros. One of our dearest friends, No, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.840 I was going to. I was just prefacing, you know, 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.560 some history here, long overdue having him on the pod. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:58.800 I'm sure he's going to have some thoughts about that. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:03.639 Probably a sixth sports podcast of the day, my former roommate. 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:10.840 I mean, gosh, and just like TikTok famous too, just guy, 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.080 he is killing a TikTok YouTube, great social media presence. 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.759 Comedian we know and love and came up with Joe 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.880 kill Gallen. Thank you. I love you both. So it's 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.479 great to be podcasting with you. Easily my favorite couple 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:27.480 in the world really, I mean besides myself and my wife. Like, 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.600 you've had a great tweet today where you're like, this 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.480 is my husband whenever I like clap back at a 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.360 heckler and I'm like, damn, that's cute. Yeah, well it 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.479 was like kind of made it. I don't know if 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.840 CJS no I have. I've been in the crime like hell, yes, 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.680 getting yelled at by my wife. I thought you're gonna 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.039 be like get on, you know, like pro woman, but 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:50.400 you're just like fortuity me freaking out. Um, Joe, congrats 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.560 on the no hitter. Yes, that was mostly my doing. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.040 I actually saw no hitter Jake Garrietta through one against 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:57.920 the Dodgers in l A. I was there. It was amazing. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:01:59.880 And then today I just watched in my garage like 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:03.320 a Chicago scumbag. But that's where I almost think sitting 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.280 in your garage is the perfect place to watch a 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:09.120 Cubs no hitter. For the fans at home who don't 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.079 know Joe, there is no bigger Cubs fan, it's um, 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.240 it's borderline mentally ill. The thing is they they are 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.760 good and they did win recently, so it's not like 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.960 a Brown's mental illness. It is like a kind of 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:26.760 successful mental illness. But yeah, I mean just even looking 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.720 at you right now with your setup, you you look 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.360 like a Cub's cartoon character. I don't know. It is 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:36.240 getting to the point where I'm I'm hoping something's got 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.320 to give because it affects my mood. And I can't 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.040 be a father of two and have like a Cub's 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.240 loss make me be a bad dad. I think you 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:49.480 can in Chicago. Yeah, you're probably right. So we're recording 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:53.040 this on Sunday, first day of the NFL season, and 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:58.160 I was getting really upset about, you know, something the 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.880 Colts did. And c J was like, oh my god, 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.880 I forgot that. This is what happens to you. Like 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.720 with the Pacers, I like love them, but there's constantly 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.000 it's like, Okay, then there's another game in two days. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.320 Like it's just like a quicker turnaround, so you don't 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.200 have to be sad for as long. And I also 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.240 don't think of you know, like when you look at 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:19.680 the NBA. It's like, I don't think the Pacers are 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.919 gonna win, and we look at the NFL. I don't 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.880 really think the Cults are gonna win either, but it's 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:29.239 like better chances, so I get more invested in Psychotic 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.240 I get it, and the NFL owns a day of 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.359 the week. Your dad I said a great conversation with 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.240 your dad, Megan where he said, I mean, He's like, no, 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.880 Mr kill Gallen, You're not one of those fans that 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.960 won't go out to dinner because the big games on 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:49.080 right And I'm like, no, I am. I've I've been like, hey, 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:50.120 you wanna go to this thing. I'm like, well, the 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:51.640 Cubs are on, so I'll meet you there after. And 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.680 he's like that's crazy, and I was like, no, I'm 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.640 that guy. And so is that why you feel like 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.280 you want there to be a change so then you 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.640 can start enjoying your life more. I mean, I don't know. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:01.200 I don't know if I wanted to be a change 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:02.920 because it does bring me a lot of joy, but 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:04.520 it also brings me a lot of anger at the 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.680 same same time, So I don't know what the change 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.680 might be. I think I'm a big fan of the 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.640 Cubs president Theo Epstein, and I have a sneaky suspicion 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.240 that the ownership is going to screw him over somehow 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.839 because his contracts up in two years, They're gonna disrespect 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.200 him or do something like that. And I could see 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.599 myself being like, you know what, nothing will ever top 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.239 as a Cubs fan. It's time for me to follow 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.320 THEO because I'm such a big fan of his, and 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.640 maybe I could let go of some of this like 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.880 insane psychotic breakdowns I have when again, when the Cubs 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:37.040 don't win. There's no way that's happening from I mean, 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.600 THEO is so great though. He is the only GM 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.760 I can think of that had a stalker like that 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:48.040 is so impressive to just be you know, you're just 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.880 the guy behind at all. You're not even like front 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.480 chasing camera videos that like. I mean, he is known. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.200 But wow, that gal, she she was she like wound 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:03.080 up on his Trump sorts. What happened. I don't know 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.200 all the details, but THEO is a young, good looking guy. 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.600 He was a Yale graduate who won for the Red 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.359 Sox back in two thousand four when he was like 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.120 twenty nine years old, so everyone was like, what's the term, 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.279 like a wonder kid or something or can I don't know, 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.440 some German means you're really smart and young, I think anyway, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:21.560 And then when he came over to the Cubs, he 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.599 was like, here's my plan. It's a five year plan. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.040 Year five of the plan, they won the World Series. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.360 That's just I don't know, He's like, he makes being 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.839 a nerd cool, which something nerds have done. Actually, now 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.760 that I said that, allowed sports nerds are pretty cool. 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:39.800 Just like it's not as much of like a phase 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.280 of having to convince you what you're cool if you 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.240 know a lot about sports in my opinion, Oh yeah, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:47.320 when Nicety stumped the schwab boy it is it is 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:53.720 wet ass pussy over here. Okay, so today's topic. I'm 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.320 so excited we're doing it. Was like when I was 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.520 excited to do my research for you are the perfect 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.280 person to do it with. We are doing greatest meltdowns. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:07.200 And before we even get into that, Joe, I don't 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.560 know if there's and I mean this totally would love 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.320 I don't know if there's a comedian in our friends 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.120 circle who has more notorious meltdowns than you and most 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:20.400 of them justified almost all of them. Justified some of them. 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.359 I will not name. I don't want lawsuits to be 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.599 brought against me, but I've definitely been on your side 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.400 for most of them. In your opinion, what is your 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:34.280 greatest meltdown? My greatest meltdown? Okay, I had a playing 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:38.560 basketball and I was like eleven years old, no, twelve 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.320 years It was a big game. These were like two 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.039 undefeated teams and porge parks. Jim had like this upper 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:48.280 balcony and all these girls were chanting Joey and because 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:49.800 they knew they would kissed me off when I was 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:51.720 on the free throw line, they'd like joe we and 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.520 these were like girls I liked. I wasn't that mad 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.719 with these dudes. I didn't like, we're saying some ship 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.480 so um. Right after like a time out, I had 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.120 the basketball and I threw it into the stand. Was 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:01.840 trying to hit one of them in the head. So 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.880 I threw a basketball into a crowd of people, and 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:06.880 that's it's against up into a balcony. So like I 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.760 launched it and I got a tech and you only 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.240 got a technical and that you got off pretty easy there. 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.080 So I got lucky because I think the reference him 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.120 swearing it out at me. This one kid, and you 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:23.240 were eleven and were your parents there? They were not. 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:24.840 It was the one game that didn't show up to Okay, 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.280 So do you feel like you felt like the leash 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.320 was off a little bit more? I would like to 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.480 say that, but I've been um, you know my dad once. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.080 I remember striking out and throwing my bat and the 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.200 dugout my day going, We're going home, and I hit 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:38.680 a home run earlier in that game, and he made 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.920 me fourth inning because I threw a bat. So I 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:46.000 haven't always held back in front of him. Yeah, I come. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:50.440 I come from a family of sports meltdowns. I would 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:55.000 get in verbal altercations with almost every single girl I 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:59.360 ever played tennis against. And then I started playing golf too, 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.360 and so that's across. You're gonna see those girls again. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.200 So then the girls I was fighting in tennis, I 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.760 would then start fighting in the fall and golf. Just 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:11.119 a real fun white girl cycle. My brother's psychos drop, 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:16.080 kicking gloves, throwing things. My brother Michael making a jerk 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:20.360 off signal at other nine year olds. He got ejected, 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.360 He got thrown out of the gym, like they said you, 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.360 he has to leave the building, and so then my 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.560 mom and my dad was the coach, so he couldn't leave. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.120 So my dad's just inside coaching, and my mom and 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.240 my brother and I are outside in the car waiting 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.880 for the game to be over. C J. I don't 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.200 imagine that the Tola Donnas have as much of a 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.520 past as Joe and I do. Well, I was gonna 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.400 ask you, are these what you guys are describing meltdowns 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.720 are anger problems. It's a combination of both. I think 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.400 a meltdown is kind of when you lose control of yourself, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.840 because I've had I've lashed out angrily where I'm like 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.280 totally in control, I know what's going on, and then 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.160 there's other times where it's like, oh, I wish I 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.160 did not just punch that brick wall because that out 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.760 my fingers are broken. You're talking about your brother. I 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.719 do remember now. I was kicked out of a co 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.959 ed flight a league um in Chicago because my one 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.000 cousin was getting real chirpy at wide receiver. He was 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.000 mad that I wasn't hitting him, and I remember saying, like, hey, 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.640 shut the funk up, t O, You're not open and uh, 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.319 he said something else. I snapped the ball and I 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:21.679 went to like try to hit him in the back. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.800 So I like threw a bullet and I missed him 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:25.800 and hit a girl on the shoulder. And so then 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:27.480 the ruffles like that was on purpose, and I'm like 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.040 mad and her also she could have picked it off, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.160 like why you met me because she's shitty at defense. 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.280 And then you know, like they told me to leave 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.760 and then away from the park like Judd Nelson at 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.720 the end of Breakfast Club, but instead of the fist 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.720 pump and in the middle finger all the us Wells park. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.760 So yeah, that was a fun That's impressive. Now we 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.719 have all of these incredible stories of our own meltdowns. 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.679 We will be right back with more famous people's meltdowns, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.240 and we are back. Is wait, there's a question I 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.800 want to ask you about meltdowns. Know this is because 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.240 it pertains to what we're going to get into. And 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.520 it's like you end up having kind of like funny 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.679 moments and all of your meltdowns because you're a comedian, 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.160 you are a funny person. Do you think that makes 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.080 you like, do you think people that are funny and 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:23.320 or smart and or like kind of wise ass end 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.760 up being more predisposed to having meltdowns because they know 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.720 they'll get away with it, or they'll like do something 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.720 funny that people will remember. Yes, I do in a way, 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.920 but I also think something about funny or smart or 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:39.679 whatever people have in meltdowns. Someone told me that because 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.640 there's a difference. Someone tried to say I was an 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.320 angry person once. I am not an angry person. I 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.079 think my default setting is I'm a pretty happy guy. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.080 I have a bad temper, which is completely different like 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.319 angry people walking around being like all the governments out 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.400 to get me and this, this and this bad temper. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.120 People were like, what's up? And then someone steps on 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.319 our shoe and it's like, hey, Dick had kind of courtesies. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.760 I think what people that have melt downs and lash 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:05.200 out is because we're so disappointed and other people that 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.960 they're not meeting up to our standards. That's what I read. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.600 Once door tempers, we get disappointed in people like that's 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.680 why like people with road rage, It's like, I'm disappointed 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.559 and how shitty my fellow are. We're supposed to be 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.960 under the same set of rules. You just cut me off. 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.600 You fucking idiot, and I can't tell you, I can't 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.800 pull you aside and be like, listen, little guys, this 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.240 is why you don't do that. So I have to 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.360 scream at you. And I think that's why smart or 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.720 funny people do. And I think I don't think anything's 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.160 funnier to me than overreacting. When people overreact, it's hysterical. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.199 Happy Gilmore is funnier than Billy Madison and Happy gil 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.679 losing his fucking mind, and Billy Madison he's just dumb 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.360 and sorry about what was a better movie, Billy Madison 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.000 or Happy Gilmore. It's happy going more. You for me, 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.480 used to be Billy Madison nowadays happy going Yeah. And 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.560 the thing is our listeners they would want that take, 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.960 you know, they're happy to that. That's kind of like 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.560 a little appetize, sir. You're like, like, oh, like a 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.520 little one bite. Okay, thank you. I didn't know we 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.520 were going to be ranking Adam Sandler least today too. Okay, 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:06.360 Joe greatest Meltdowns. You are like the Benstein of this, 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.640 So lead us off with your number three pick. Okay, 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.880 My number three is Dennis Rodman kicking a cameraman in 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:18.560 the nuts. It was kick, as a lot of people know. 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.040 Now I know, it feels like almost a cop out 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.800 to go with Roban, because he's such an obvious guy 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.360 for heaven, like meltdowns, headbutted a referee, and all the 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.920 fights he's been in. This one in particular, I like 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.520 because as a psycho, when you make an embarrassing move, 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.160 because in that the play he kind of fell out 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.200 of bounds Rodman and I think he was a little 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.520 embarrassed and he fell into the cameraman. Now, so he 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.360 took his rage out on someone else, which I can 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.400 identify with big time. You gotta ask my wife, and 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.719 so that's what he does. He tumbles over, he messed up, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.080 so instead of just being like, my bad, he sees 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.240 the cameraman who's kind of in his way, and then 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.440 just sides, Oh, this ship's on you, buddy, and then 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.160 gives him like a kick, which I always thought was 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.800 unfair for people to say it was in his nuts, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.080 because if you notice, the kick was kind of underneath 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.280 his thigh, so that cameraman might have a healthy pair, 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.440 because I think that looked like a thigh kick. But 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.280 the cameraman swears he got a testicle. See this is 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:13.000 how you know Joe is a psycho because he starts 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.600 like being like, that's not his balls. He didn't get 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.240 his ball, and it's like, well, you know, you can't 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:21.600 kick people no matter what. It's a sensitive area. And 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.280 and but I do think your assessment of it is correct. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:28.560 We hear a lot hurt people, hurt people, and Dennis 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.040 Rodman in that moment was hurt because he looked like 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.200 a dumb maass and then he said, I gotta hurt 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.760 this guy. It's really like in a lot of these 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:41.000 it's people going after raths or fans that are saying 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.719 stuff to him. In this situation, it really is a 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:50.719 person truly. They're doing his job, which is neutral or 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.480 nicer to the bulls, and he still attacked him. Well. 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.520 I also think though, but the media and it's been 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.120 changed over the years, sometimes the cameraman are too close. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.520 Sometimes you know, the stanchions too closer, like so they 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.360 feel like they move it back every few inches. But 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.240 like I think it was yeah, wrong place at the 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.000 wrong time, a little bit of a mixture, did he 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.360 suit did the cameraman end up? So he did? Did 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.720 And that's why I know in the lawsuit, he like 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.840 mentioned testicle like he said that he got nuts, and 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:21.520 that's why I remember at the time breaking down the 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.120 film with my friends. We were bruder film over like. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.360 I don't think there's nuts there. I think I mean, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.640 maybe he's got a long sack. He's an older guy. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:33.360 When you get older, a long sack a long stack. 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.360 So again, if he has an extra long sack, then 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.680 that's maybe that's his fault. Don't have a long sack. 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.120 Don't get in the way of one of the greatest 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.840 rebounders of all time who kicks when he rebounds exactly. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.640 I did act out everyone listening to the podcast, but 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.560 it was a really good act out. Okay, Um, so 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:57.920 this episode is starting with a bulls pick, got it? O? Um, 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.240 I know where I am. I have my bearing. I 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:01.960 just want everyone to know I have chosen a no 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:06.960 basketball and no balls, So no basketball and the breath 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:11.000 of fresh that we need. Um, I will go next. 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:16.280 My number three is a person. Okay, it's Tony Stewart 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:21.000 and he has so many bad times that I was 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.440 actually watching compilation videos of him freaking out to try 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:29.880 and pick my favorite freakout. Sadly, tragically, Tony Stewart did 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.720 kill a man, and that is not on this my 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.080 list because I don't think of that as a miltonne 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.280 I think of that as like manslaughter. And so if 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.640 we ever do manslaughter on the episode, I will revisit this. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.600 But I wanted to keep it light and bright, so 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:50.640 I went with one of his other classics. Um. He 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:55.320 gets into a wreck with Matt Kinzi and they trade paint, 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.400 you know, number four two cargo and a number fourteen car. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.560 I love when they talk in cars. It's so fun, 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.280 and so they Tony Stewart is in a car accident. 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.680 He is walking to an ambulance, takes off his helmet 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.640 and chucks it at Matt kenseth car as he's leaving, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.600 like pitt Row, and then he just walks into the 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.640 ambulance like he is. He could be injured, he could 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.200 he just got into a car accident. And his first 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:25.160 instinct is how do I funk up Matt Kinset's day? 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:29.560 And Wow, he's since spoken about trying to get the 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.960 helmet back. He was not fine for that. He's like 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.080 one of those people and and I and I it's 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.960 sad because you see how it did eventually end up 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.680 in tragedy where he just kept getting like a longer 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.760 and longer rope, and NASCAR was like, I don't know, 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.160 because even after he throws the helmet, he then like 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.440 Arsenio Hall's the crowd and they love it. Like the 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.080 NASCAR now is different than then, but you can tell 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:57.280 they seem almost handcuffed by his popularity. And part of 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.200 his popularity is that he's a full blown fucking psychopaths, 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.240 and so there were a lot of times when he 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.399 should have been I mean, there's a there was another 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:09.320 video he runs up and he takes off a guy 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.199 who's like an official. He takes off his headset throws 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.600 it at him, and then another official comes up, like 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:16.920 what are you doing? And then he charges that guy 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.600 like he's truly a bull in a china shop, but 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.760 the china shop is other people, and he does not 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.199 care if they die. I remember that video and it 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.720 made me think to myself, it's kind of shocking that 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.959 it is in a regular occurrence in NASCAR, not like 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.120 the extent of what Tony Stewart did, but think about it. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:39.080 Their whole profession is almost car accident. Yeah, bumped like 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.199 a little rear end you have this feeling in your 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.439 chest like holy sh it, like I'm scared, and I'm 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.600 also piste off and mad my car insurance gonna go off. 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:48.480 Now I've done late to whatever I'm gonna be in. 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.360 Take that in times of buy a million. And that's 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.080 Nascar all the time. That's why always saw hockey player 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:55.560 has always had a bad headache. Have you ever almost 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.680 slipped on ice? That's their whole job is almost that feeling, 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:00.920 almost slipping on ice. So they want to punch people 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.119 in the phase. So I'm surprised it doesn't happen more 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.879 in NASCAR. Yeah, in racing, it's like, oh, this is 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.200 truly life for death. The margins are like so so 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.040 so slim. At one point, he has a rant just 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.240 ripping the entire Goodyear, entire company. It's stopped to bottom, 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:20.280 Matt the entire company. I really, I have to recommend. 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:24.680 It's from CJ's Employer Leach Report. They have the ranking 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:30.600 of Tony Stewart's top ten tantrums, and I really oh 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.800 and and him killing a person is not even on it, 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:37.639 like that one. How prolific he is. So I suggest 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.640 you taking a look at that list. I know at 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.160 one point the family of the driver he killed. I'm 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:50.000 not sure how that ended up, but Tony will say 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:52.119 this till the day he dies, that it was fully 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:55.080 an accident, but you do kind of look at his 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:59.959 record and go an accident with a rage induced psycho 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.560 at the wheel. So that's my He's from Indiana, so 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.560 it feels like I'm going extra hard at him. I am, 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.840 And so that's my p s A about how scary 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.520 racing is but also fun. All right, okay, so my 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.840 number three pick, it's gotta be a tie only. I 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.840 think these combined make a good pick, but also too 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:20.800 because I was going to start off with Rodman, which 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.159 I should have known you're going to start off with 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.480 a Bowls one, but this one is half bowl so 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.120 the one half of it is we don't we still 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.120 don't know the full details of the story. But Jordan's 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.119 punching Steve Kerr in the head in practice, like what 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.840 did we Maybe I missed the part of why it 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.920 went down in the last dance other than like Steve 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.280 Kerr wasn't playing up to again, Jordan's like he like, 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.760 I don't know if there was a reason. I think 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:50.680 that's why he was Jordan was disappointed. You can't handle 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.520 my right cross and practice? How could I trust you 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:54.920 under the bright lights of Salt Lake City? Yeah, and 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.640 and what happened He punched him and then later on 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.600 he buried that shot. He buried the shot. So the 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:04.320 second part of that was, um, it's like it's it's Kobe, 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:08.280 who again very much has Jordan qualities. But he walked out. 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.439 I mean, this is like a terrible roster and I 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.639 just remember this today. But he after scrimmaging and just 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:18.399 destroying all of his teammates two fifteen season, he walked 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.840 out on everyone in practice and said everyone's soft like 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.480 Sharman and this is why we're not winning, and just 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.160