1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Which is anonymous with the Laria Baldwin and Michelle Campbell 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Mason and I heart radio podcast. Hey, which is welcome 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: back to which is anonymous. I'm Michelle and I met 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Larry and today we're talking about vaginal rejuvenation. Hi. My 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: name is Dr Jennifer Berman. I'm a urologist, best selling author, 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: and sexual health expert. I'm here today to talk about 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: vaginal health, general red donation, everything to do with a vagina, 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll talk about hormones too. Hi. Dr Berman, 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. As I have a question 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: because I've been cruising your website. How do you how 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: do you really feel about m face? Because I just 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: did it for the first time. You've got to do 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: all four of them. But I okay, so okay, I 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: have it. We have we have the machine, so that 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: is a what's cool about the other base? You know? 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Radio frequency here has been around forever. We've been using 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: that to live and tightened skin on the face next body, 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: but this is the first technology that has incorporated um 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: electrical stimulation for the muscles of the face, which to 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: me makes so much sense because as we age. In 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: addition to the college and Alaskin looseness of the skin 22 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: being muscles are also sagging and drooping and falling as 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: we age in our whole bodies include our face. And um, 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: there really isn't any other technology available right now that 25 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: he dresses the falling in sidding and patrop being muscles 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: of the face. Um, this one. And so I think 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: that combining the radio the frequency heat with the electrical 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: stimulation is um, definitely new as it pertains the face, 29 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: not new it pertains the body. We know about the 30 00:01:54,840 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: meal and then we've combined heat with electrical stimulation to 31 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: sculpt and tighten other parts of the buy. And it's 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: natural that they I thought to do it in the 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: face too. Um, So I think, um, it's definitely effective. 34 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: We see results quickly. Did you know are so young 35 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: and you don't have a lot of um, you know, 36 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of tots are falling yet, so 37 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: for thank you for you know it makes you know, 38 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: smoothing and tightening and don't preventative purposes or if there 39 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: was a specific area you know whatever they focus on. 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: But so you might not see as dramatic as results 41 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: as somebody in their forties multilate forwards early fifties, but 42 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, people are in their thirties and early forties, 43 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: who have you know, prevature aging in certain areas and 44 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: the wonderful thank you. I just finished my fourth session. 45 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: I did it and that's actually how I how I 46 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: found you was uh Dr rash Akavan, Who's who's my 47 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: dermatologist here in New York. He you know, I asked him. 48 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm hearing this vaginal rejuvenation. What is 49 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: the vaginal rejuvenation. I've had so many children and I 50 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: know nothing about this? What like, what is what is this? 51 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: And He's like, you must talk with Dr bourbon Um No. 52 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: So interestingly, through these vaginal rejuvenation treatments is how I 53 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: got into the minimally based of aesthetics. So I eurologist 54 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: neurologist by training UM, and I focus on female neurology, 55 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: sexual health, a lot of thermal balance, a lot to 56 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: do with Vogel health and Bagel Kainda and UM in 57 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: continents and UM. When these technologies came to the forefront, 58 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: it really revolutionized the standard of care as if chains 59 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: to female neurology, because before what we would do if 60 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: a woman had stressing continence after a baby. I mean 61 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: they're at yogie. So maybe we don't have it, but 62 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: most every woman at least at a period of time 63 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: after and then again when become older menopausal will experience 64 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: stress your air in continents, which is we can all 65 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: blacks needs jump, exercise, run or whatever. And before these 66 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: devices became available, we would have to operate. That we 67 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: were doing slings on everybody, hundreds of thousands of sling 68 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: slings and prosing. So now that the new technology, the 69 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: standard care is not to immediately you know, operate and 70 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: put in a foreign body. But these technologies are effective. 71 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: And not only the juvenating and enchancing um, the wall, 72 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: the lining of the vagina, ypening things back after we 73 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: have babies and they get older, but lifting and supporting 74 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: um and spoil the bladder and your RECAF. And so 75 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: I was one of the you know, the earl and 76 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: the key opinion leaders for the companies, and I was 77 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: talking about them and you know, doing research with them, 78 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: and I would go to the meetings and they and 79 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: I'd have to go and I went to the plastic 80 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: surgery meetings and derm meetings with these companies about the 81 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: fradulal new juvenation device, and I was there that I 82 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: saw this machine also works on the base like wait 83 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: a minute, heat can and I was like, yeah, you 84 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: know I need that. And then I was like, okay, 85 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: well it also works on your body, like so that's 86 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: so I got introduced kind of backhanded to minimaly invasive 87 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: um medical aesthetic treatments through the backdoor via my godgual 88 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 1: new juven nation. Um uh, you know, knowledge and experience, 89 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: and so now I've incorporating all of that into my 90 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: practice because I'm an aging woman and all the things 91 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: that I offer, including their base and things um you 92 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: know that are are preventative and or you know, I 93 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: said beauty from the inside out, that we address mormal balance, 94 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: how to look and feel they're optimal best and then 95 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: you know these are things are part and personal to 96 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: getting older. Well, so talk to us a little bit 97 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: about that. And so my body has experienced many beings 98 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: passing passing through my vagina. I mean, my doctor is 99 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: always like, just do keegeles, Just do keegeles, and and 100 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: I do. And to be quite honest, a lot of 101 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: I think I don't know a lot about this because 102 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: I haven't experienced the problems that I'm starting to hear happen. 103 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: But I think, Okay, well, I'm approaching four years old, 104 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight. Right now, I'm approaching forty years old. 105 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see a problem. I don't feel a 106 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: problem like I've heard. But then I start to think 107 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: what would be helpful for me now to do and 108 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: know to prepare me for the future. Do you recognize, 109 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: hopefully that you are a phenomen just begrtue of having 110 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: looking the way you do, functioning the way you do, 111 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: and having had you know, six babies. This isn't normal 112 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: and um, I don't know, I've never seen it before. Um, well, 113 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of conspiracies online that I never had 114 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: any kids. That's a whole other episode. That's a whole episode. 115 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: Well it's I mean, it's worth thinking about on your end. 116 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it is not I who am I to 117 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: say what what's normal? But in general, women, you know, 118 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: after um to sometimes three babies, you know their their 119 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: bodies are done, um in terms of ability to carry 120 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: another baby to term, the amount of weight that um 121 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: that you put on. And then also once you get 122 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: into your mid to late thirties, your you know your 123 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: your resilience and you know ability to balance back is 124 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: it changes, so the fact um and your body changes, 125 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: and I you know, there's I love to talk about 126 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: myths that we're told or that we believe that we 127 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: were you know and we're kids that you know one 128 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: of them was your vagina just pus is right back, 129 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, baby comes out and like you know, it's 130 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: going again. And that at least my experience and most 131 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: um women is not is not the case. It doesn't 132 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: just pop right back um to where it was and 133 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: what it was. Pretty baby when you carry baby to 134 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: turn and you deliver badgelate, now you might be a 135 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: phenom and um you know have due to your core 136 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: strength and the fact that your your yoga practice definitely 137 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: is when you're asking about prevention, those you know, those 138 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: exercises that that you do your wise that improved pelic 139 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: for strength and tone are one of the things. But 140 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: when you when you're told to do a keegol, like 141 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: after you have babies and your doctor says do keego exercises, 142 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: to me, it's like telling a nine year old woman 143 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: like to live you know, a hundred fifty pounds, you 144 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: can't engage once like a watermelon has come out of there. 145 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: I one of my these was nine pounds eight ounces, 146 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: and once that like crosses through there, there's no you know, 147 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: going back to the way it was and trying to 148 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: do key goals afterwards, you know what, they were not engageable. 149 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 1: The cool thing about these new vaginal rejuvenation technologies is 150 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: that they function to help to restore pelic for strength 151 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: and tone, as well as the keegold muscles UM, which 152 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: are important not only for control of urine but also 153 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: supporting your pelic organs and also um sexual function and response. 154 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: So when you talk about function in versus esthetics UM, 155 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: to me, function would be UM the improvement of vaginal 156 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: lubrication because as you become older, and certainly after babies 157 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: with fluctuations and hormones um, the ecosystem of the vagina changes, 158 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: and if the lining because becomes thinner, more friable, women 159 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: will will frequently report vaginal dryness or irritation. They may 160 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: also complain of urinary symptoms, if not incontinence, urinary frequency, urgency, UM, irritation, 161 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: or burning. And you know, the doctors might think it's 162 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: t I. Whenever we call those general urinary symptoms of menopause, 163 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: but they can occur before menopause and when in your age, 164 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: both of your ages, especially after having after having babies, 165 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: and due to the fact that you're becoming paramenopausal. Paramenopausal 166 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: is by definition means that you're still getting your periods 167 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: regularly or perhaps even irregular, but may or may not 168 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: be experiencing symptoms, and those symptoms can be like in 169 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: terms of the vagina, vaginal dryness, vaginal pain with intercourse, 170 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: um laxity in the vagina, or funeral looser you know, 171 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: less um sensation in that area. UM. Women also difficulty sleeping, 172 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: fallingessly in the paramountal pause, foliously distancously, moody, more furable 173 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: and short fused, more we be in depressed. Whatever susceptibilities 174 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: you have to Anxiety and depression get worse in the 175 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: paramenal pause, especially around your period. Um sexual function and response, 176 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: your motivation, libido, your sexual motivation and desire to be sexual. 177 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: Orgasm can change, becomes less, less intense, harder to come by, 178 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: so the cost benefit analysis of insects doesn't payoff. Is 179 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: Orgasm is UM and it's frustrating. So all of these 180 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: symptoms can occur in women that are not metapousi during 181 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: the paramount pause and what happens and also focus, concentration, memory, 182 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: and what happens is we attribute them to a lot 183 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: of other things to stress the pandemic, having seven babies, 184 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: who wouldn't be forgetful of seven kids gonna around obviously 185 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: make excuses for those things, you know, to kind of 186 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: push them away, when in reality they're due to hormone 187 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: and balance. And so just knowing that both in the 188 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: back room minds knowing you know, as you're going through 189 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: your lives, is you know that that we don't, you know, 190 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: sort of brush off the symptoms and or get put 191 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: on antidepressants or get put on a d D meds, 192 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: or get put on diabills because they can't lose the weight. 193 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: You know, that's I see that, you know, more often 194 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: than not. And so you know, just having in the 195 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: backroom minds that these symptoms that happened to me before. 196 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: By the time you become menopausal, meaning that you're not 197 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: having a period anymore for at least twelve ones, then 198 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: what you have all the same symptoms but worse, and 199 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: you also have hot flashes and night s west By 200 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: the way, though perimenopausal women, some perimenoposts women can experience 201 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: hot flashes and night sweats. They on a milder level, 202 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: but they can still experience them. But those are really hot. 203 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: Flash is the night subs are the typical ones that 204 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: everybody knows about. You know, you know, getting hot, you 205 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: know we all know about that. But in addition to 206 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: help flash, the night swubs, all those other symptoms, sexual symptoms, 207 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: um leaning, muscle mass over fat mass, your endurance and 208 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: strength during exercise, your muscle recovery, joints, drength, bone strength, 209 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: all of that is impacted by hormones and hormonic balance. 210 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: So I have a huge advocate for optimizing hormone balance 211 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: to women. I believe everything health, wellness, longevity, and also 212 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: quality of life well being starts and stops with hormone 213 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: and balance. And when we get older and if things 214 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: are at us, when our issues start symptom lage news 215 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: as well as bone millers, at the mental de mineralization 216 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: all times, disease, colon cancer, also you know, cardiovascular disease information. Everything. 217 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: As we start to break down, our bodies break down 218 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: at the root of it. I'm not gonna say it's 219 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: all due to hormone balance. But if we I believe 220 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: that we can start early, and that's that's not necessarily 221 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: the standard of care right now, as you know, in 222 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: in terms of the field of O sutors and gynecology, UM, 223 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: they don't necessarily agree with me. UM there uh and 224 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: you know that's a whole other conversation. But UM, in 225 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: terms of the research that's ongoing right now, there's scientifics 226 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: let's see book control, Political Trial, and I in funded 227 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: grants that are UM and and evidence space research showing 228 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: that intervention early meaning before you're in the throwings of 229 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: health uns and next pestis is beneficial, especially in terms 230 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: of the cognitive function and prevention of cognitive decline and 231 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: prevention of Alzheimer's. So when you're into in your mid 232 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: to late thirties and early forties and having symptoms and 233 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: you have your levels checked and if there is in 234 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: balut you're having symptoms and there there is imbalanced, I 235 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: am a huge proponent for UM, you know, for intervention 236 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: early as it pertains the hormone balance. And then in 237 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: terms of your vagina, for the vaginal redubnation things, it 238 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: is important. Another thing is women who are receiving hormone 239 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: replacement therapy full on hormone menopausal women getting full replacement 240 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: and perimenopolls, and women who are you know, not not 241 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: necessarily needing full replacement, but receiving hormones. About forty to 242 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: six percent of those women will still have UM, can 243 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: still have vaginal symptoms, vaginal dryness, vaginal irritation, and require 244 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: some form of vaginal estrogen. So just because you're on 245 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: hormone replacement therapy doesn't mean that you vagina is fixed. 246 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: The vagina is it so has in mind of its own. 247 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: It's a self cleaning oven it you know, sort of 248 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: UM functions in a in a different um ecosystem, So 249 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: it isn't This conversation is important. We have to make 250 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: our vagina is a priority. We have to understand the anatomy. 251 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: We have to understand how our age and hormones and 252 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: having babies impacts the you know, our our genital urinary 253 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: track and UM. The treatments that are available so when 254 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: you're you know, we can go into the different baginal 255 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: rejuvenation treatments that are available today and UM and the 256 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: ones that you have to go to a doctor for 257 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: in the office, and then there's also UM some home units. 258 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: There's one in ridicular that I set that I'm on 259 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: the board of this company and I wanted to have 260 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: it here with me. I call it forgetting that, but 261 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: that is UM. There's new and evolving technology to help 262 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: women maintain UM function and control UM at home. I 263 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: think that there's just so much shame surrounding the conversation. 264 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: And it's interesting. I watched my kids and how my 265 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: kids are in just a different generation in terms of 266 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: they're so open about things. Whereas when I was a kid, 267 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: I would not said vagina any of these words. That 268 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: would have just been like, oh my god, we can't 269 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: talk about that. Where my kids they just they their 270 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: their openness and the way that they're growing up is amazing. 271 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: And it's also interesting that I feel like the whole 272 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: idea of vaginal rejuvenation, not the idea, but the conversation 273 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: has all of a sudden exploded recently. I'm seeing it everywhere, 274 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: and I think about my grandmother's, my mom, my greatgrandmother's, 275 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: like we exactly we would I would see that, and 276 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: so I knew it had something to do with menopause, 277 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: but nobody talked about it and all the other things 278 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: they just dealt with silently, you know, and dealt with. 279 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: I was looking on your Instagram and I love how 280 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: you say, no more shame. There's no more shame about this, 281 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: and that is such a big deal. I mean, the 282 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: idea of you know that cosmetic stuff is in some 283 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: way shameful. You shouldn't be shamed and shamed to do it, 284 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: and you shouldn't be shamed not to do it. Just 285 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: do whatever's gonna make you happy. But I love that 286 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, just this the conversation. I just learned more 287 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: about menopause in the past like a few minutes with you. 288 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: Then I like, that's like double the information that I 289 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: are that I have and that's the next phase in 290 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: my life. Do you have a lot of clients as well? 291 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: I know there's obviously a lot of people that seek 292 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: this out have had children and have after effects of 293 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: such that they would like to rehabilitate. In essence, um, 294 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: do you have a lot of clients that haven't had 295 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: children that just started looking to improve overall appearance laxity? 296 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: I have until I was talking more because that was 297 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: your interest, I was, I've been talking in terms of 298 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: donation about the functional side of it. I really didn't, 299 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, touch on the purely aesthetic um side of 300 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: side of these technologies. And an answer to your question, 301 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: younger women, because of shows like this, and because of 302 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: social media, and because of what's going on with your children, 303 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: in that these taboos are you know, slowly crumbling and um, 304 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: there is more openness and more conversations happening that younger generations, 305 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: younger younger people are more comfortable talking about about it. 306 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: And also, you know, have concerns about prevention. And I've 307 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: seen I remember being shocked when I saw twenty year 308 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: olds getting botox. Remember that they're doing it, and they're 309 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: doing they're all they're doing it to prevent even though 310 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: they don't have wrinkles yet, they're doing botox to prevent 311 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: themselves from getting wrinkles, which, by the way, this is 312 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: just a sidebar, is going to prematurely age them because 313 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: it actually feast and muscles, so the muscles are gonna 314 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: false sooner. The whole concept of being face is you know, 315 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: muscles after thee and fall with age. Doing botox makes 316 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: that worse. So these young girls that are putting botox 317 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: in the face in their twenties. While it's gonna maybe 318 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: prevent the fine lines, their faces are gonna sat back sooner. 319 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: But that's a side. That's a side. In terms of UMSTEIN, 320 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: both doing the m faith do all four treatments will 321 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: allow you to do less fillers and less botox, that's 322 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: for sure, and they've studied that. So that so from 323 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 1: the sample of prevention of aging and also preventing allowing 324 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: you to views, they're enabling you to be less needles, fillers, 325 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: botox and threads and things like that. That's the beauty 326 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: of these technologies. The same applies to the vagina and 327 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: what these girls are doing in terms of prevention. They 328 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: are essentially active young women that are interested in UM 329 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: enhancing and restoring tone and also improving their keeople their 330 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: people strength without having to do you know, a hundred 331 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: five keegle crunches at every stop while you have you know, 332 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: sort of like the lazy man's um like the gas. 333 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: You know what you know about the use that divides 334 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: so instead of the unskilled is the equivalent to sixteen 335 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: weeks high intensity interval training. So UM these treatments, the 336 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: boundary regiuvenation treatments and There's also another one I don't 337 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: know if you've heard of, called the m Sella day. 338 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: It's in the same scult same company and face and 339 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: sculpt and Sella and Sella is um. This is the 340 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: sure for it. This is what the chair looks like. 341 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: Actually sit on that you can be totally and this 342 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: I intensity focal electric stimulation to the pelvic floor. So 343 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: you sit on this chair for twenty minutes and it's stipped. 344 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: Men who can do this too, by the way, and 345 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: chances or album orgasm erections, and men also for incontinence, 346 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: and men after they had constate surgery. But also you know, 347 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: I probably predominantly do it in women. This is the 348 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: equivalent of doing um twelve thousand full um belly keegoal crunches. 349 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: And the cool thing about that technology and kind of 350 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: in the line what you're saying about the muscle. So 351 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: the pelvic floor is a hammock that holds your pelvic organs, 352 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: your bladder, your uterus, a little part of your comb 353 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: rectum and uritra. And as you age and after babies, 354 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: it becomes attenuated relax you know, stretched out um and 355 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: the kegel muscles are at the the very bottom whether 356 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: you root for those through. So there's a hammock and 357 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: then a little hole. This is you know where the 358 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: kegels are and you can voluntarily contract those. The rest 359 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: of the pelvic floor isn't voluntarily voluntary muscle Be like 360 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: me telling you contract your colon or you dilate your pupil. 361 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: You can't do it. So the cool thing about the emcella. 362 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: What I really appreciate about the emstella is that not 363 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: only does it contract fully contracted kegel muscles, but also 364 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: helps to contract and restore tone to the pelvic floor, 365 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: which we can't. There's no other way to do that. 366 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: And the pelvic floor and your abdominal pore are intimately connected. 367 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: So in terms of mobility, flexibility, posture, strength, all of 368 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: them is interconnected. UM, which is another reason why I'm 369 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: I love you know, the combat m sculpt at quarter 370 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: floor UM training the lazy man's way without you know, 371 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: having to go to the gym. I get. You get 372 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot of pushback. They think your kids aren't real 373 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: or whatever. I get pushed back and um, you know, 374 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: and people making comments about me pushing these treatments and 375 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: I just go to the gym. You do it on 376 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: your which you can, but to your point, after you've 377 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: pushed a couple of babies out of there, you know, 378 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: you can't even find your keeples. Like being a dancer 379 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: and having and knowing your body and all, that is 380 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: an advantage, but most people you know, don't don't have 381 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: that level of consciousness about their you know, their pelvic floors. 382 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: So that's where where these things come in. And for 383 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: the esthetics, you know, these basual rejuvenation streament. What happens 384 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: when we talk about aesthetics young women and older, what 385 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: they worry about it all? I think it all started 386 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: when we started taking away hair, when the hairless issue. 387 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: You know where you used to like little triangles of 388 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: hair and then you couldn't see anything over there and 389 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: nobody was really talking about. But once we hairlessness became 390 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: a thing. Now you can see everything and what um 391 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: the areas are concerned are the outside labia become droopy, saggy, 392 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: deflated um looking. They can also change in appearance. The 393 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: color instead of being pink and youthful terns, especially after 394 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: babies and don't know about yours, maybe look and talk 395 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: about they turned more like gray dark color as supposed 396 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: to use the pink um and plump so they side 397 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: lady the inner labia. Women are also concerned about the 398 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: hanging and length and droopiness of that and and that 399 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: is you know, I have an issue. So I'm a 400 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: huge proponent for you know, body positivity, especially as it 401 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: comes to our genital area. And there's you know a 402 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: range of what is um considered normal and the ideals 403 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: that women have which are skewed because of porn and 404 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: who knows what like what they what what we're considering 405 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: to be beautiful down there are ideals that aren't even realistic. 406 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: So a lot of what I do is, you know, 407 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: um educating women. And I have this book called Pedals, 408 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: which has photographs of at least three hundred l you know, 409 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: vulvas with labias that are long, short, one this black, white, 410 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, all sorts of different ones, different variations of 411 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: anatomy that are all wrong. And the inner labia serve 412 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: a purpose. They are sexual in nature, so they the 413 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: inner labia grab around the penis so they in gorge 414 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: with blood. So they need to in gorged that there's 415 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: a rectile tissue in there. There is um lubrication that 416 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: is excreted from the inner labia, and they serve to 417 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: provide additional length, so as the penis is going in 418 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: and out, they kind of reach around. Now, chopping those off, 419 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: you're removing sexual tessue, sexual organs um and so I'm 420 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: not a huge fan of of doing that unless there's 421 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: a symmetry one. You know, I have had young girls 422 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: were ones dramatically longer than the other where it's interfering 423 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: and you know, I had a surfer young girl who 424 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: was on the surf team and would pop out of 425 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: a bathing suit, and where there's anatomic issues that are 426 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: um interfering with athletic function, sexual function, or there's a symmetry. 427 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: I you know, I definitely am supportive of surgical correction 428 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: in those cases, but um in every in most other women, 429 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: those changes in skin texture, her tone, and even lane 430 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: we can shrink up a little bit with these vaginal 431 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: redouvenation treatments. Now, am I like the poster child for 432 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: for that going out there like let's improve? No, I'm not, 433 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: but there is a demand and there is interest and 434 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: things like that are happening in the media. Are you 435 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: know that are raising more interests and awareness about the 436 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: appearance of how it looks down there. Who would have thought. 437 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: I never would have imagined in a million you when 438 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: I started in this field. You know, when I got 439 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: on my resident N was is like I couldn't even 440 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: say CLITTERI is on the news. I was on the 441 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: evening news with Tom and Tom Broke back then and 442 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: ninety we were talking about viagra when I got Acta 443 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: proved in men. But I couldn't say clitters. I couldn't 444 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: say I had to say female genital area. And we 445 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: were really really controlled about how we could talk. We 446 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: could say petis and erection and all that stuff, but 447 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: anything regarding the anatomic variations or definitions and the female 448 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: I was not allowed to even say. So the fact 449 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: that we're now, you know, today we're using those words. 450 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about um the anatomy and improving the appearance 451 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: of it. I never milion, You're what I thought. Again, 452 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: it goes back to the shame. It goes to the 453 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: point of once we've had children, we should not and 454 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: we should not worry about such things because that's vain, 455 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: that's vain, it's frivolous, it's ridiculous. Yet at the same time, confusion. 456 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: We've got to still feel great and sexy and energetic 457 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: and all of those things. I mean, it's it's just 458 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: a lot of confusion. And I think if we just 459 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: really simplify it down to do what makes you happy, 460 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: here is information, Here is different things that you can 461 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: do or cannot do if if they're not right for you. 462 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: And also, um, you know, let's get better educated about 463 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: the part of our system, of our body that we 464 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 1: have been so ashamed of its former generation. With your 465 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: kids and the openness that women won't have those fears 466 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: anymore and won't have shame about it and will encourage 467 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: their partners to participate and without fear and without shame. 468 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: And you know, I think you're doing a lot for that. 469 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: Being your mother does not mean you're not a sexual 470 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: empower being anymore. And you have to you know, kind 471 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: of go turn into like a misdoubt fire, a little 472 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: you know person that it it is and to you know, 473 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: pass these things onto our children. Empowerment and sexuality and 474 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: feeling good about ourselves and feeling univerally seconds being at 475 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: all that stuff, um is important. And I think the 476 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: days where you know, when I was growing up, my 477 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: mother remember my mother became a menopausal and her mother 478 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: you just dealt with it like this is what happens 479 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: when you get old. You kind of shrivel up and 480 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: you stop having sex, and you become you know, um, 481 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: roommates with your partner, and you know, then you become 482 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: friends and you play golf and life goes on and 483 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: then when you die. And I have made it my 484 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: mission to change that that now you know, we are 485 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: entitled to be sexually active, sexually empowered, feeling bit vital 486 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: and full of life into meta pause and they're after um. 487 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: You know that that's a huge part of my like 488 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: what I believe and my cause and you know, the 489 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: changes that I want to see, you know, in terms 490 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: of how women live and age. So I have a question. 491 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: You know, obviously air show is called which is anonymous, 492 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: and we always try to find the link with women 493 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: and they're they're the part they play and what we 494 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: are discussing. And widely a lot of women that were 495 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: called witches were midwives and healers and people that helped 496 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: with childbirth and with you know, we're very involved in 497 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: the female anatomy and I you know, obviously that was 498 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: in the six and I think, like what we're talking 499 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: about with bodily shame here and like not feeling comfortable 500 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: looking at yourself. I feel like if we look back 501 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: at history and we look at how women in this 502 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: work were demonized, and then we look towards the Victorian 503 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: era where you know, husbands really controlled their wives bodies 504 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: in such a way that hysteria became an issue and 505 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: women were going to their doctors to virtually orgasm because 506 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: they were, you know, in such a state. Um, how 507 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: do you feel and how have you seen? I mean, 508 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: obviously that's a long line to draw, but what you're 509 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: doing now is really helping women maintain their ability to 510 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: find pleasure. Do a lot of your patients after the 511 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: procedure feel a heightened sense of ability to climax. And 512 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: I love your reference to that, you know, the work 513 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: when we were talking earlier about how the stigmas between 514 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: men and women, like how they described male like love 515 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: snake of the lot, you know, and the female like 516 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: colloquial words you know, clam and are are negative, where 517 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: the words are positive and empowering female. The colloquial words 518 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: to describe female general areas are usually offensive and mood 519 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: and have a negative connotation. But and the word hysteria 520 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: comes from hysteros or hit the womb that hit you know, 521 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: the the uterus or history UM when women get their 522 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: periods around the periods hysteria, the craziness that we you know, 523 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: the moodiness, the ups and downs, the angry hot cool. UM. 524 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: We're being treated with vibratory stimulation and I UM have 525 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: read a lot about that too. I was interested in that, 526 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: and I even had went back and looked at some 527 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: of the early vibrators that they used and the types 528 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: of there's a Broadway play. UM actually called in the 529 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: other room about this topic. A dot the doctor the 530 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: after that we're seeing all these women that would go 531 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: into his back room and UM so I remember seeing that. 532 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: But um so from the where we were in victory age, 533 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: we're still UM kind of closeted. To where we are now, 534 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: I think that I think we have we have come 535 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: a long way, and especially you know this isn't part 536 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: of this topic, but you making me think about it. 537 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: In advances in UM, the openness that we have about 538 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: erotic toys for women and women run companies there you 539 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: know CEO ladies were that have developed UM toys for 540 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: women for this purpose. The same topics that we're talking 541 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: they're coming at it from you know, sales and marketing, 542 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: we're coming at it from education. But this, um, there 543 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: is a movement now about more openness, not necessarily about 544 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: the anatomy and what it looks like and how it works, 545 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: that's it, but in terms of empowering women to be 546 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: sexually satisfied and not have to rely on a man 547 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: to do it. That we have the ability to be 548 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: sexually fulfilled, be sexually satisfied completely our own, with or without, 549 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, a partner or a man, and we have 550 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: the tools and education to do that now. Um. And 551 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: whether it's the witches or the empowered or you know, 552 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: the brave amongst us that have brought that to the forefront, 553 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: it's it's happening. And um, it needs to have there 554 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: needs there needs to be like like, um, a unity 555 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: because we're talking about sex and sexuality you know in 556 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: one area and health was motherhood and another it's still 557 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: a little segregated. So the reason why this conversation and 558 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: these topics are so important that you know, you can 559 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: that you can be sexually satisfied, sexually motivated and still 560 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: be your mother. You can worry about the toughness of 561 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: your vagina and how what it is and still be 562 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, a mother and you know mother figure and 563 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: a professional and I respected a person. And yeah, so 564 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: that that's the goal. And these treatments, these vaginal rejuven 565 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: rejuvenation treatments UM, were originally shunned by a COG and 566 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: the American College of the Sectists and Gynecologists. They tried 567 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: to say, I feel like they do a disservice to 568 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: women in many ways. One was the issues with breast cancer, 569 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: where they came out and told everybody that holemotiled breast 570 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: cancer and how to recant that they did the same 571 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: thing without the rejuvenation. They came out with with a 572 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: statement UM and that these statements were mutilating to women 573 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: and that they should be outlawed and that the FDA 574 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: needed to pull the clearance from the treatments. And there 575 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: was basically a movement driven by people right like the 576 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: revolution from women, UM that we're fighting back about the 577 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: how these treatments helped improve their urinary continents and who 578 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: their marriages, improved their self esteem, improve their wives. And 579 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: they were canted that too, you know, they came back 580 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: and say, okay, well in this case and so UM. 581 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: Part of the problem that that I see is that 582 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: the UM that that the American College of the Steps 583 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: in thattecology, that for those those and those doctors should 584 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: be the gatekeepers to women's health. That's who we go 585 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: to there, you know, when we're having babies, so trying 586 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: to conceive and conceiving and carrying babies to turn. They 587 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: are wonderful for that um of e g. Lants, But 588 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to after that, like UM and quality 589 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: of life, sexual function, you know, things along those lines, 590 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: it's there. They really aren't able to yet as far 591 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, as far as I'm in my opinion, 592 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: they don't have protocols, they don't have a standard care. 593 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: They haven't educated about a decade of their doctors on 594 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: how to manage hormone imbalanced, imperimental pause, much less menopause. 595 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: So they are not you know, they don't have their 596 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: finger on the pulse of what's current in hormone placement 597 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: therapy UM today as far as I'm concerned, and that 598 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: is also its driving the confusion one swimming I've made 599 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: my career based on their lack you know, so people 600 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: eventually find me, like those that are that are resourceful 601 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: and those that are educated, and those that are you know, 602 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: they try that are online or reading or talking to 603 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: people eventually find me in one way or the other 604 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: or somebody like me. Um. But you know, there's millions 605 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: of them out there that that are struggling, and which 606 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: is why these conversations are so important that there is 607 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: help out there, that you're not crazy, that you know 608 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: these changes that occur as we get older and after 609 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: babies happen, and that there are solutions for them. I 610 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: have a question about something a little more intense, and 611 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is something you've actually had 612 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: a firsthand experience with, but because we talk about so 613 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: many women that have been oppressed or you know, not 614 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: encouraged to embrace their sexuality and themselves fully. Obviously, genital 615 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: mutilation is still a huge problem around the world. Have 616 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: you seen any people or had any clients that have 617 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: experienced that and come in and been able to find 618 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: ways to stimulate themselves with these treatments at all? Be 619 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: fascinated if you can revive that, And especially when I 620 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 1: was at u c l a UM, there was you 621 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: know there um there was I guess a collude with 622 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: Arabic countries. And what I learned most importantly interestingly enough, 623 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: is that you know, the shock and horror that we 624 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: have and the reaction we have to what has happened 625 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: to them is not well received. So they even the 626 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: wind that it happened to are not um, do not 627 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 1: perceive it as you know, abuse, And it's cultural and 628 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: there's religious aspects to it. There's a coming of age 629 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: to it. So I had to learn um that that 630 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: you know that how my my reaction and my care, 631 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: my everything at um, that this is part of their 632 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: their culture and their beliefs. It's not up to me 633 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: to judge or to save them. You know. I was 634 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: wanting to rescue them all, get them out of there, 635 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: getting rid of that man that did that, you know, 636 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: that was in my head. But the men frequently brought 637 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: the brought the women in. And I learned, you know, 638 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: respectful boundaries as it goes to that, and that we 639 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: were able to help to an enhanced sensation, enhanced party. 640 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: Now when you cut off some of these put it, 641 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: there's degrees of the of the procedures that they do. 642 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: The mutilation between you know, just minimal like you know, 643 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: circum female certain decision to amputation of the culturists to 644 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: sort of they call infibulation where basically there's no volva 645 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, to speak of um. But in most cases 646 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: we are able to help to improve um function and 647 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: once and make things better. But just in the same 648 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: vein that we were talking about removing a reptile tissue 649 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: for cosmetic purposes, the same applies there. I mean, that's 650 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: that where the American College of the Steps of the 651 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 1: Hoeging is calling calling that mutilation, and in some senses 652 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: it is you're you're you know, you're cutting tissue off um, 653 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 1: but not completely um altering, you know, the genital area. 654 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're ever going to get to 655 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: a point. Although now what's happening in Iran is um 656 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, with the women spearheaded by the women. There's 657 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: so so much, so many issues over there that are 658 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: glowing up. But it started with with women, you know, 659 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: speaking out and women's being out for other women. And 660 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: we're in an oppressed country, women risking their lives and 661 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 1: you know, for for the purpose and for the cause, 662 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: and you know, that's how change begins. So hopefully those 663 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: procedures and practices will um you know, become obsolete and 664 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: maybe a distant more world regions they those things happen, 665 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: but hopefully we're you know again, I'm careful not to 666 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: judge because or say I hope it ends because to 667 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: them it's not something you know that that's considered back UM, 668 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: but their consequences to doing it. And I think everybody understands, 669 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: including you know, those that believe in those practices are 670 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: recognizing that there are UM consequences that can impact the 671 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: that that that woman's function, happiness and sexuality, and that 672 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: just recognizing it, even if they just recognizing it now, 673 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,760 Speaker 1: which they which they're beginning to UM, makes a difference. 674 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: And hopefully if you know, there will be modifications made 675 00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: UM so that you know, permanent damage doesn't to occur. Fascinating, 676 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: wonderful to hear. We're so grateful for your time. UM. 677 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: We do something called what are we covering in the cobin. 678 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if they if you're you're prepared for this, 679 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: but it's just kind of a favorite thing something you'd 680 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: like to to share with us. I think, you know, 681 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that I would say two for women. 682 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: And to your point is that you know, pay attention 683 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: to your feelings, pay attention to your body, don't neglect 684 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: your vagininia um, and that you know, as long as 685 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: once there's awareness, knowledge is power. And that's what we're 686 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: giving people as knowledge, and we're empowering women with knowledge 687 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: and information about their general area, about their body, about 688 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: their hormones. And I guess I think that that's the 689 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: biggest thing that I have to offer. That's my my 690 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: purpose um in life actually, and I'm happy to have 691 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: been able to participate in this conversation. Thank you. So 692 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: I think and if you had one one um one 693 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: product that we all went out to go get that 694 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: we could go. I'll go out to get not without 695 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: not going to a place where we need a prescription 696 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: or just like something that we could find that would 697 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: help our vaginal health. There's a product called CEO too. 698 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: D have you head have CEO two based um that 699 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: the two reaction, so the same technology is applied for 700 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: for in the vagina. The c O two functions to 701 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: increase blood flow to the microcirculation of the journa. So 702 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: this is a really soothing, healing, restorative treatment. It comes 703 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: in a box. You can get this over the counter. 704 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: It's called CEO t V finds carboxy therapy carboxy therapy 705 00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: for vaginal treat vaginal rejuvenation treatment. It comes. It has 706 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: UM in two packets and the reason it can't be 707 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: preloaded because the CEO two only stays active for forty 708 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 1: five minutes, so you have to use it right away 709 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: over a period of five days. So if you're experiencing 710 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: any changes in vaginal sensation, UM, vaginal dryness, as well 711 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 1: as the appearance. This also improves the appearance of the 712 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: outside UM. This is one of my favorite products. Show 713 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: you how to use it. It said, you know, just 714 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: start to get to sported and you know the bottels 715 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,919 Speaker 1: sported in and what's left over on the outside. What's 716 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: what's left over that you haven't put inside. You can 717 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: wipe on the outside UM and it's amazing. Helps to 718 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: improve sexual function response, helps to restore vaginal lubrication. It 719 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: helps to improve the printly crazy joy saggy appearance. If 720 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: you have that on the outside, that sounds like a 721 00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: much better investment than the Yoni egg. Yeah. Dr Burman, 722 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much for this mind blowing education, your 723 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: time and the work you do to make women feel 724 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: more empowered. Thank you so much. That was a good one. 725 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: That was fascinating. Yeah, and I don't know about you, Michelle, 726 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 1: but I am someone that I've it's like, I want 727 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: to do cosmetic things and you know, I've tried the 728 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: M face and I've you know, my super gray so 729 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: like I dye my hair, my my natural ish hair color. 730 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: But you know, I mean I'll do things, Um, I 731 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 1: do my nails. But then there's like these lines of 732 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: like where it's like, you know, are we are we 733 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: too vain? Are we too should we be embarrassed? What 734 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: do we share? What we don't? I don't know if 735 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 1: you've noticed that in the cosmetic space of the stuff 736 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: that's considered to be like okay, Like people will go 737 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: and they'll post themselves doing M face, but they're like, 738 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to talk about the botox or 739 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about the pillars. Right, there's 740 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: that that invisible line where people are not comfortable sharing. 741 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 1: But I think that like takes us back to Jody 742 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: Patterson and all the gender affirming procedures we do, right, 743 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: Like why are we comfortable talking about getting our lashes 744 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: done as opposed to botox, and I I don't know 745 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: the answer, but you know, I'm I'll admit that I've 746 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: done things. But you also, you know, part of having 747 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: these tools scientifically, we want to be able to say, hey, 748 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: like I look the age I feel I am, you know, 749 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 1: and so it is so personal, so I don't want 750 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 1: to judge. But when it comes down to like you know, 751 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: social media icons and such that have so clearly done 752 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:45,800 Speaker 1: things and just create this unattainable beauty, uh, you know, 753 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: aspirational mark where it's so clear that they've had multiple 754 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: surgeries to get there and refused to talk about it. 755 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 1: I think that's where it gets dangerous. I guess omitting 756 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 1: your botox whatever. And I'm actually now terrified about like 757 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: what she said about preventative bow talks. So I was like, 758 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: oh damn. I thought I was getting ahead of this, 759 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: but my face drops in the next few years. Well, 760 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: we'll call Jennifer, Call Jennifer. All right, ladies, that's it 761 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: for today, Thanks so much for listening. We're loving how 762 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 1: our coven is growing, so continue to share. Um. 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