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Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio one eleven productions. We are joined by my

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Speaker 1: partial intrepid cru Suseyn French are newbie and and you

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Speaker 1: know where you lover are Stalwart, Amy Sugarman. Tara sued

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Speaker 1: is on an airplane right now. Danielle Romo may be

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Speaker 1: in labor right now, so we are we're praying for

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Speaker 1: a beautiful outcome.

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Speaker 3: There before we start fight face. This is a do

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Speaker 3: you know what you might not know because you're in

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Speaker 3: canad working.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we get to see Sullivan's crossing.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, right October fourth, Yes, c W at

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Speaker 1: eight seventh Central, so you can stream it on the

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Speaker 1: CWP too.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so this Wednesday, if you're listening on Monday,

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Speaker 2: this Wednesday. And word on the street is it's very

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Speaker 2: good A.

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Speaker 1: Word on the street. Yeah, we're pretty proud of it,

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Speaker 1: pretty exciting. It's very exciting. It's nice to be back

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Speaker 1: home at the CW. I started there in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and you know, it turned in it was the WB

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Speaker 1: and then it became the CW. What two thousand and

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Speaker 1: five or six. Yeah, and we were there at the

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Speaker 1: launch of the CW and it was a big deal

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Speaker 1: and it was everything was green and there was a

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Speaker 1: frog and there was you know, we did a whole

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Speaker 1: photo campaign and it was fun. It was just fun

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Speaker 1: launching a new network. And I'm still friends with a

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Speaker 1: bunch of the people that used to work over there.

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Speaker 2: So it's funny. Some people are still there. You and

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Speaker 2: I were talking about that. Some of the people that

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Speaker 2: were there with Gilmore Girls are still there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, Next Stars taking a position here

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Speaker 1: with the CW, and it's a big relaunch and they've

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Speaker 1: got a sports division and they do football, and they

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Speaker 1: do golf, and they do they do nightly news and

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Speaker 1: they're really a major network now.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: It's quite something to see the growth from two thousand

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Speaker 1: and sixty today. Very very proud of these folks. They're

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Speaker 1: doing a great job over there. So anyway, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night, ye October fourth, c W, eight o'clock, seventh Central,

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Speaker 1: Sullivan's Crossing.

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Speaker 2: Check it out and everyone should watch because we will

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Speaker 2: be doing some special podcast episodes.

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Speaker 1: So yes, we will, and I'm excited. We're going to

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Speaker 1: drop them into the feed and we're going to be

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Speaker 1: talking to the stars. Yep. And can I announce who

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Speaker 1: the first guest is?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, sure, yes you can.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be the actual star of the show,

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Speaker 1: Morgan Cohen. And I think you're all going to love her.

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Speaker 1: We all do up here, and we're going to get

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Speaker 1: to know her a little bit and just look out

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Speaker 1: for that podcast episode. So anyway, aweso, let's get started here.

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Speaker 1: What did everybody think of the episode?

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Speaker 2: Well, should we have Suzanne to our big synopsizing?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's right, we got a synopsisizations from Susanne French.

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Speaker 1: You're on care right.

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Speaker 4: This is a season six, episode two, fight Face. It

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Speaker 4: aired on September twentieth, two thousand and five. Feeling a

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Speaker 4: little lonely, Lorelai adopts a dog. Luke agrees to repair

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Speaker 4: Lorelei's house rather than buy the Twiguam house. This so

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Speaker 4: soon turns into trouble as TJ does some unwanted construction

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Speaker 4: on the house. Rory starts her community service assignment. Feeling

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Speaker 4: neglected and unhappy with how things are going. Rory visits

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Speaker 4: Luke at his diner and Luke lets it slip that

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Speaker 4: he and Laurlai are engaged.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of this episode?

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Speaker 1: I loved it. I really enjoyed it. It was very

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Speaker 1: very light and fun and delightful and breezy, and it

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Speaker 1: was a Dan Paladino written and directed episode. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I really, I really am digging on the Dan Palladino

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Speaker 2: I could be an idiot saying this, but it seems

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Speaker 2: like he really likes to write for you and Lauren,

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Speaker 1: It's some of the best. You know, what I really

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Speaker 1: to be there timing wise, because it's all timing as

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Speaker 1: And it's like it's like pumping up a tire or

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Speaker 2: Principle, even when you're standing on a roof, when you're.

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Speaker 1: Standing exactly, the timing was always there. She always delivered,

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Speaker 1: and it really made those scenes. It was all timing

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get to it. But two things, even

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Speaker 2: me because you still saw the love there totally. And

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Speaker 2: just even like the moment where Luke says we're good,

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Speaker 2: Like they can have that and be good five seconds

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Speaker 2: later and I know what, we'll talk about it when

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Speaker 2: we get to it. But the fact that Luke realized

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Speaker 2: I'm not buying the Twickham house. She wants to stay

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Speaker 2: in this house was for me the moment of the episode.

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Speaker 1: Really being in tune with her to that degree. What

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Speaker 1: I love that roof scene too. I thought that roof

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Speaker 1: but there's still love there. Yeah, and she understands what

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Speaker 1: it is and dissipated that that she was going to

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Speaker 1: ask her are we still good? No, we're good. She

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Speaker 2: Question, and he was upset. It's like, you were upset

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Speaker 2: because Rory really threw you off. And we'll debate it.

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Speaker 1: Just oh boy, yeah, great stuff, really great stuff. Thank you, Dan,

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Speaker 2: So we start with the Twickham House and Suki and

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Speaker 2: Laura liar in front of the Tickham House, and I

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Speaker 4: It was good to see Suki and I don't think

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Speaker 2: I totally agree. I totally agree, And I like how

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Speaker 2: flirty moment. It was a little dirty. It just got bigger,

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Speaker 2: that's what she said, you know, like they definitely throw

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Speaker 1: I didn't understand what they were talking about. Y'all have

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Speaker 4: It was good best friend time, like we did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one of them is is good greed.

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Speaker 2: It was just that was great. Then I think, do

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Speaker 2: we go to the community service. We see we go

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Speaker 2: to the community service right away, and the like leader

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Speaker 2: that guy that you see and everything. I have to

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Speaker 2: because that guy's in everything.

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Speaker 1: Oh he was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's in it great.

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Speaker 1: He you know, that was one of the best pieces

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Speaker 1: That's exactly the type of guy that's going to be

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Speaker 4: He really hit like every stereotype as they you know,

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Speaker 1: Ye what was his name? What was Oh? John Capellos?

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Speaker 2: Is in so many He's so good.

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Speaker 1: He was so good.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I know I'm jumping ahead, but when she

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Speaker 2: oh my god, I'd love to.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to interview him, you know, if you get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be cool. He really hit it out of

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Speaker 1: You know. He really made it his own, really great.

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Speaker 2: like fake dirt on her face. I do believe that

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Speaker 4: First of all, I.

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Speaker 2: Know we're not there yet, but when she when the

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Speaker 2: then she takes the trashaw like the community service stuff

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Speaker 2: is actually kind of funny and laying better than I

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Speaker 2: I just realized as I'm looking him up. He's in

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Speaker 2: the breakfast club.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Guy's in the He's totally that.

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Speaker 1: breakfast club. He was was heither janitor or something?

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Speaker 2: I think, so I have to look it up, but yes,

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Speaker 2: now it's totally coming back.

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Speaker 1: It's like they could they couldn't put one over on him,

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Speaker 1: and he just like, oh, he schooled he schooled the judge. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Okay, so we go into the diner and that

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Speaker 2: was sort of interesting, Like at first I couldn't figure

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Speaker 2: about Star Wars obviously last and that was that was funny.

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Speaker 2: That was a funny bit. And then you know, she

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me, hold on them. Let's think merchandise.

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Speaker 2: We see more of the diner, and there was some

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Speaker 2: Exactly, good one, Susan, exactly. Is this the scene where

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Speaker 2: And that was even better because it's like very subtle

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Speaker 2: I can see her hyphenating oh, Gilmore Dan because she

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Speaker 1: It would not go well. You would get in her

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Speaker 2: Come on, I would enjoy I would enjoy the food.

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Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, this state has stepped in and meet

438
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: it out there justice and you know.

439
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can see that too. I don't

440
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 4: think they should necessarily keep punishing her over and over

441
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: again for it. But I just thought it was interesting

442
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 4: how they really kind of had the attitude that, you know,

443
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 4: none of this was Rory's fault and she was the

444
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 4: victim in the hole.

445
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think both takes are kind of interesting

446
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,959
Speaker 2: because I sort of liked how sweet they were and

447
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: that they weren't beating her up over it. But then

448
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: I also get your point where you're like, she committed

449
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: a total felony, Like what what are we doing? So

450
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: we go back to we see her in the chair

451
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 2: with the TV on, and then she's got the bathing

452
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: suit on, and all of a sudden, I'm like, oh

453
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: my god, she's totally bored.

454
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 4: It was so symbolic, right, like she's sitting in this

455
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 4: empty room. There's nothing in the room, there's nothing in

456
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 4: her life, Like she doesn't have her mom, she doesn't

457
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: have school, Like she's just literally sitting in an empty

458
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 4: room symbolically as well as physically.

459
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she does have the graduate, she does have

460
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: Mike Nichols and Tustin Haman and that great scene.

461
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: I'm so I'm so happy you're saying that, because I

462
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: was like, is this Jacques Cousteau like she was watching.

463
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: That was exactly the scene where he took some time

464
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: off from his getting his PhD. He or no a

465
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: fast great remember, and then he's he's on the He

466
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: hadn't started the I don't think he'd started the affair yet. No, no,

467
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 1: he had started the affair. Uh oh no, that was

468
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: his birthday present. Okay. And Anne Bancroft and her husband

469
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: came over that that great actor who was in Jaws. Gosh,

470
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: his name escapes me.

471
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: Schneider. No, no, the main guy in Jaws.

472
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm talking about the graduate, right, but he

473
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: was in Jaws. Uh, Anne Bancroft's husband in the Graduate. Yes,

474
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: he was in Jaws as the town mayor.

475
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: Oh not Roy Schneider, okay, hold Robert Shaw now the mayor,

476
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: the mayor, Murray Hamilton.

477
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: Murray Hamilton, that's him. Fantastic actor. Wow, he was in

478
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: the Graduate. So anyway, so that's the scene in the

479
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: Graduate where he put on his They were all waiting

480
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: for him to put on his his deep diving equipment

481
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: and test it out in the pot. And he felt

482
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: like he he he just felt like, what is my

483
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: life turning into? And then he starts up the affair

484
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: with the bankroft friend's wife. I'm that's the but I'm

485
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: let me get to the scene. So the scene is

486
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: he's laying on the raft after and his father comes

487
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: by and says, Benjamin, Benjamin, have you thought about graduate school?

488
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: Have you thought about this? And he goes, no, I'm

489
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: just sort of taking some time off, and and his

490
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: father says, well, you would think a person who's put

491
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: in some good hard work and has earned some accolades

492
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: would want to get off his but he says, there's

493
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: no problem with a young man taking a couple of

494
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: weeks off. It's great, you've earned it, but now it's

495
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: time to get off your ass. And so that's what

496
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: the reference was.

497
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: But that's so it's so major, and like I'm bummed

498
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: I didn't get it because it's so parallel. So it

499
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: was really actually genius. I just didn't get it because

500
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: I was like, is a joque custa? Like I didn't

501
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: understand what was happening. But it's the parallel to Rory.

502
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, So she's literally watching.

503
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: Her own thing.

504
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: She's watching her I think it.

505
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: Just popped into my head. If she's got three hundred

506
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: hours of community service in six months, she actually couldn't

507
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: go to school.

508
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: Right, right, yeah, yeah.

509
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: I mean I guess if she was still in school,

510
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: maybe they give you a longer time. I don't know.

511
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: I guess it is odd that they gave her three

512
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: hundred hours if they If did the judge know that

513
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: she was in school.

514
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 4: You would think the judge didn't know that said you're

515
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: a student at Yale, and Rory said yes, so she knew.

516
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: Although technically back again, giving a student, any student anywhere

517
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: trying to get by, you know, trying to do their studies,

518
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: giving them three hundred hours of community service, it's just

519
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: it's just like overkill. It's like you're ruined that kid's

520
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: school year. They're gonna they're gonna fail. Right, they don't

521
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: have that much free time. How's she supposed to study exactly?

522
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: So anyway, I mean, I think that's kind of an

523
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: interesting thing. Interesting and that she's bored and she's, you know,

524
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: happy to polish silver. I don't understand why she's not

525
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 2: realizing I need to go back to you. What am

526
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: I doing?

527
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 5: So?

528
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 4: A fun fact on the silver polishing scene, where Rory

529
00:28:53,520 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: is speaking beginner Spanish with the Maid people, fans, some

530
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: fans probably already know this, but Spanish was actually Alexis's

531
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: first language. Yes, she didn't learn English until she went

532
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: to school, so I forgot that.

533
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: So yes she should have.

534
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: She didn't speak Spanish when she did that scene. I

535
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: always thought that was kind of a fun.

536
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: That's a great note. That's a great note. So I

537
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: want to talk about the scene now after this where

538
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: Luke meets paul Anka. So Segott, tell us about your

539
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: thoughts with that full scene where you come in and

540
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: you're meeting paul Anka for the first time.

541
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's always it's always takes a lot longer when

542
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: you're working with an animal or a baby, even at

543
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: Rubber Baby. But you know, it's nice to see a

544
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: dog on set. I'm a dog person, so I really

545
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: enjoy when when dogs are on set, and this was

546
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: a I remember this being a particular well behaved dog

547
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: and well trained, and they all are because you know,

548
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: the Warner Brothers only brings in the best animals. And

549
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that was a very lovely, loving dog who

550
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: was very professional and didn't freak out and picked up

551
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: did all that it was supposed to do, and the

552
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: trainer the trainer was really great and you know, we

553
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: we we didn't like seeing that dog go. We wanted to.

554
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: It's rare that any actors want more animals on the

555
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: set because it just takes to so much time wrangling

556
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: them and handling that right. You know, they call they

557
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: cause a lot of delays because well, you know they're animals,

558
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: and you know people cause delays too, so uh but

559
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: it was Yeah, that was a particularly enjoyable experience. I

560
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: remember just really loving that scene and loving the work

561
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: we were doing.

562
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of movement. There's a lot of

563
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: movement in that scene. You're in the house, you're out

564
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: of the house on the one door, you come around

565
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: to the porch, you're back in the house. It was

566
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: a it's a good scene. And then there's major stuff

567
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: because we really start to get the vibe that Loralai

568
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: does not want to sell her house.

569
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: You mean the movement from the living room to the

570
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: kitchen and then outside.

571
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: Yep.

572
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all shot separately, right, no, or with a

573
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: steady cam. They follow us into the You got Steve

574
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: with a steady cam strapped to him. That those things

575
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: are like eighty pounds ninety pounds hundred pounds. They're really heavy.

576
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: And Steve was always great. I guess he followed us

577
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: into that scene. If it was a continuous scene, we

578
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: just didn't just cut to it, and that's how you

579
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: get that master shot. But with the steady cam, you

580
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: can come in and get close ups, and you can

581
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: get two shots, you can get all kinds of things,

582
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: and sometimes they like to do that, I think, especially

583
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: to keep a scene flowing like that. And I'll go

584
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: back and watch it, but I think I think they did.

585
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: I do remember Steve with his steady cam, Steve we

586
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: called him, who even directed a really wonderful episode as well.

587
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: He earned his stripes man, you know, because that guy, yeah,

588
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: putting in a lot of work, a lot of legwork

589
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: doing that.

590
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: So we go from that scene and then I think

591
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: we get to the scene where Rory's in a pretty

592
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: dress drinking club soda, and we learned that they're going

593
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: to help her find a job, and it was just oh, no, Suzanne,

594
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: were you like here we go?

595
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 4: I thought Alexis did a great job in that scene.

596
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: The face acting. I know Scott says there is no

597
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: such thing as face acting, but when they were telling

598
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 4: her that they're going to find her a job. She's like,

599
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: oh really, Like she's you could see the wheels turning

600
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 4: inside her head. I thought that was a great scene

601
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: because she's like, oh, my gosh, how am I going

602
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 4: to do this?

603
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: And I think she isn't standing up for herself because

604
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: she knows she's screwed up so bad and they've taken

605
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: her in and they're paying for everything that she feels

606
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: like she has to do what they say, right, you know,

607
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: I get that same vibe in the DAR thing, right,

608
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: and she she.

609
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: Knows that she needs to keep them on her side

610
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 4: because otherwise she'll have nothing. So I agree that she

611
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: kind of felt like, I don't have any choice. I'm

612
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: going to have to do this.

613
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: You see her face in that scene, and you see

614
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: her face with the ladies of the luncheon, which is

615
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: of a scene, but she feels like she's just going

616
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: along with it because she has no choice.

617
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

618
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: I agreed with that. And when the one at that

619
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: where they're sitting out on the patio and the one

620
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: woman asks when she joined the DAR, and she has

621
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: this look on her face like, Oh, that hadn't even

622
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: occurred to me to join the dar But then she's like, Okay, well,

623
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: I guess I'm joining right.

624
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: She's just literally going to do whatever. Emily says. Although

625
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: those ladies.

626
00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 5: Talking about which forefather was the hottest, I thought that

627
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 5: was pretty funny because I personally I don't know what

628
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 5: any of them look like, so I that would not

629
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 5: even be something that I would think.

630
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 4: To form an opinion.

631
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: Not typically super attracted to George Washington or Ben Franklin,

632
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: just saying, oh my god, John Adams, I have no

633
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: idea what he looks like. Is that his name? Yes? Yes, Scott,

634
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: do you have a forefather that you thought was the hottest?

635
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just I don't think those terms regarding

636
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: forefathers crazy. But I've never sort of.

637
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: Thing I love about it, isn't.

638
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: It in that that way? That's a that's an odd

639
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: conversation for me to be engaged in.

640
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: So I was like, who's ever had that conversation?

641
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 4: It's so good, it's so da R.

642
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the Fellows were sitting around, Hey, hey, John,

643
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: glad you showed up. Listen, we're talking about the founding follows,

644
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: which one you know, get your motor runner? Can you

645
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: imagine Scott's like, once you think of the hottest.

646
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: If you're the reverse. Scott's like, you know, Martha Washington,

647
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: she really did it for me.

648
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: That's why it's That's why it's any funny face.

649
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: The only bone to pick I have with that scene

650
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: is and Scott, you may be able to correct me.

651
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: You can tell when they're outside, and you can tell

652
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: when they're inside pretending they're outside.

653
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: Right.

654
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: It's like the juxtaposition between the DA R Luncheon where

655
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: you're like, you're acting like you're outside, but you're definitely inside,

656
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: and then the jeep pulling up and you're like, oh,

657
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: she's outside.

658
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Actually the jeep pulling up is inside.

659
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: No, don't say that to me.

660
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: To the to the Gilmore House. Yeah, it's inside. Stop,

661
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: that's not outside.

662
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 4: What but at her house it's it was outside because

663
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 4: you could see the shadow.

664
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, it is outside Gilmore House.

665
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Gilmore.

666
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: House is on a sound stage.

667
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you panicked me there that when the

668
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 2: jeep pulls up to Laurelize House that it was inside.

669
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: I was like, well, then.

670
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: That's definitely outside.

671
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: So then we get to the scene my favorite scene

672
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: in this episode is you're all on the roof. Oh no,

673
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 2: not yet. This is where George, this is where we learn.

674
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite things. This is where

675
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: we learn that you, Luke slash Scott, figured out her

676
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 2: vibe that she doesn't want to sell the house. So

677
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: you're taking the measurements and figuring out how you're going

678
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: to remodel this house to make it work. Oh, it's

679
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: the sweetest.

680
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: It's a great example of a relationship where you know everybody.

681
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: He's in tune with everybody, you know. It's like they

682
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: just kind of vibe each other. They feel each other.

683
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: Definitely feels her and what she needs and what she wants.

684
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: And I think he's right a good amount of the time.

685
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's examples where he's been dead wrong and

686
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: he's been off the mark, and he's just a human

687
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: being like everybody else. But yeah, in this, in this regard,

688
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: he's really tuned into what she wants, which really makes

689
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: it appealing, you know, for me to watch, and I

690
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: think everybody else great character, great character.

691
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 4: I love that scene. It was great between Luke and Lorelei.

692
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: And then you had the comic relief with TJ not

693
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: knowing how to work the screwdriver and paul Anka locks

694
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 4: himself in the car somehow. Like I just loved everything

695
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 4: about that scene. I thought it was good. And then

696
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 4: the frisbee. She caught the frisbee. How many takes did

697
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 4: that take?

698
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was amazing. That was amazing. I

699
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: can't decide if we're blurring the two scene with the roof.

700
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: Oh maybe because this is but that's fine, everybody gets it.

701
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: There's two major scenes. This is just the preliminary one

702
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: where she learns they're not TJ hasn't made the hole yet.

703
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 4: Oh, you're right, you're right.

704
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: But that's fine. That's fine. But the frisbee, Oh my god,

705
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: the frisbee was epic, and she gets credit for the catch.

706
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: But good throw, dude, good throw.

707
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: Huh he you know I still got it or had

708
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: it back then.

709
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: You know, I just wrote in this particular scene, the

710
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: first house one, I just wrote, cute, really cute Luke,

711
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: Like he just is a great boyfriend, fiance husband, knowing

712
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: what she wants and not making a big old stink

713
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: out of it, just going I'm good with Like he.

714
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: Just scheduled the guys to come over and start talking,

715
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 4: like he didn't even ask her.

716
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm just going to take care of this.

717
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: And he gets the architect over there, and yeah, he

718
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 4: just starts moving forward because he knows that's what she's

719
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 4: gonna want.

720
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's fully comfortable within the relationship now that yeah,

721
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: fully be himself. Not that he was hiding any part

722
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: of himself before, but now he's demonstrably Yeah, Loop dings right.

723
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: Then to jump to the other roof scene, because we

724
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: might as well talk about it here since we're talking

725
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: about it. I love the scene. I love their sort

726
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: of fight that they work out. The only flag I

727
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: have is like, come on, TJ's that big of an

728
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: idiot that he's going to make a ginormous ole in

729
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 2: the house.

730
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't know. I didn't really, It didn't

731
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: really track a register for me then, But now that

732
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: you say it, hmmm, that's a what kind yeah, exactly

733
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: what kind of a person would make create a hole

734
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: in somebody's master bedroom and then leave it like that

735
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: plastic putting plastic over or something. It just left a

736
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: giant hole.

737
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: Well, and maybe if you had a misfire with a hammer,

738
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: right like you got someone I mean, I guess the

739
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: idea is he was trying to start the project to

740
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: like expand the bedroom. But it's just like what But anyway,

741
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 2: I mean I can susp what's it called suspend belief?

742
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, suspend disbelief, Yes, suspend disbelieve. But now we see

743
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 4: why he keeps failing the contractor exam.

744
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: Right, it's terrible. So anyway, we jumped over a scene

745
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: that I love so much, which is Rory and Emily

746
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: in the Jaguar and she's giving her her rules for

747
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: community service. Two you guys, lunchbox. Lunchbox, she says, turned out,

748
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: turned out, she's I don't know what that is. And

749
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: the shift and the whole I just was like, I

750
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: am dying. This is so funny. Here's your cigarettes to barter.

751
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 4: I can just see Emily walking into a liquor store

752
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 4: to buy cigarettes, the whole.

753
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: Thing, and then she's like, I don't know that it's

754
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: helping us here in the jag which I also just like, yeah,

755
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's so good. Anyway, Okay, so we

756
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: should talk about the scene where Rory comes into the

757
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: diner and Scott I really want to just sort of

758
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: hear you because I don't know what Luke was supposed

759
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: to do.

760
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: You know, he's you know, he's in that strange kind

761
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: of in between place where you know, he's not her

762
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: stepfather yet, right, he's not. He's just been there her

763
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: whole life. He's just been there for her. So it's like,

764
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: you know, they have a closeness, but there's also a

765
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: bit I think he's so I think he's always been

766
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: so respectful of the closeness between mother and daughter that

767
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: he doesn't intervene without it being appropriate or asking permission

768
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: or you know, getting the go ahead from Laurele I.

769
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: So now that he's in a situation where clearly, you know,

770
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: she's in need of a little comfort, you know, a

771
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: shoulder to lean on or something. Yeah, because it's well,

772
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, she didn't where else to go, yeah, right,

773
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean he was the only one that has never

774
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: he's always been had her back and he's never been

775
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: judgmental of her. And yeah, I mean where else could

776
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: she go?

777
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like she couldn't. She knew she couldn't go to

778
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: talk to laurel I. So Luke's was kind of that

779
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: buffer zone where she could be loral I adjacent and yeah,

780
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: kind of scope out the situation without having to actually

781
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 4: talk to Laurai.

782
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: What do you guys think she was going to say

783
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: to him?

784
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: Like?

785
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: What? What?

786
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: What?

787
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: What did she want to talk about?

788
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: Like is she going to say to I don't think

789
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: she knew what she was going to say. I think

790
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: she was just seeking some comfort and a familiar place

791
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: that was going to put her mind at ease or

792
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: a different She wanted to come back to Star's Hall.

793
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: I think this is a way. It's like the waiting

794
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: room for getting back into her mom's house and her

795
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: house and she grew up in, and maybe she was

796
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: hoping that her mother would be there. I don't know,

797
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: but interesting, comforting, warm place that's in Star's Hollow because

798
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: she had to get out of that poolhouse. I think she.

799
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: Wanted to know if Laura I was feeling as lost

800
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 4: as she was feeling, and so she was trying to

801
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 4: kind of figure that out without having to, you know,

802
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: just call Lorelai. And that's I think that's probably she

803
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 4: was just kind of putting her feelers out there to

804
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 4: to see what the what the environment was because she

805
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: was kind of feeling awkward and weird in this new

806
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: place in her life, and she was just trying to

807
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: see where Laurel I was with all of it.

808
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, growing pains right, just lonely. She just needed a

809
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: she needed some stars hollow, She needed a dose of

810
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: stars hollow and yeah, she just needed to relax and

811
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: be able to breathe a little bit. Do you think

812
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: he will not feel so out of place because I

813
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: think she now feels really out of place. Yeah.

814
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

815
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: Do you think there's anything Luke? Do you think there's

816
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: anything Luke could have done? Like, could he have said, Rory,

817
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: you need to get it together. This isn't you. You

818
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: should go. Should he have been more firm with her

819
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: and said, you need to go back to Yale, you

820
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: need to finish your community service, you need to make

821
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 2: up with your mom. Like, I don't know, I don't

822
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 2: know him, He's that's not him.

823
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't see him saying that directly to Rory.

824
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 4: I could because he always has let Laurel I drive

825
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: that bus, so I he may have been thinking it.

826
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: I think she caught him off guard when she should.

827
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 4: It was late at night, he was closing the diner,

828
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 4: and I think she just kind of caught him off guard,

829
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 4: and he was like, uh, I don't know what to

830
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 4: do with her, and yeah, yeah, but I don't know

831
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: that he would say that directly to her because he

832
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: always was kind of behind, you know, lined up behind Laurlai.

833
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

834
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, It's not him to do it. Do you

835
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 2: how do you think Lorelai should have reacted with Luke

836
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: when she finds out he did tell her they're engaged,

837
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: And I get why he did. It just sort of

838
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: came out.

839
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: M hm.

840
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 4: I felt bad for Luke because he was right when

841
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 4: he said that he was caught in the middle. And

842
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: you know, laurel I in her mind it's just between

843
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 4: her and Rory, and she was kind of forgetting that

844
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: Luke has a stake in this too, because that affects

845
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 4: him as well, and so I think she needed to

846
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 4: take that into account. So I was glad that he

847
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 4: said that and pointed that out to her because then

848
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 4: she realized, oh, wait, you're right, this does affect you,

849
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 4: So then she could see his side a little bit more.

850
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: So, Scott, like, if you were.

851
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: Luke, I am Luke, not were I am?

852
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: Do you think he handled it right on the roof

853
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: sort of their little I call it a tiff? He

854
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: had handled it differently kind of telling her how he

855
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: told Rory about the engagement.

856
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: No, otherwise you wouldn't have had that great scene.

857
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: And this is where we have the frisbee.

858
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: Are you it's not it's not Seventh Heaven? Okay?

859
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: Are you?

860
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: It was on brand.

861
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: Known as a frisbee, an excellent frisbee player in frisbee circles.

862
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: My frisbee abilities are known throughout the universe. Yes, that's

863
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: why they wrote that in It's well known.

864
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: I wish you could remember how many times you had

865
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: to shoot that for her to catch it. Uh.

866
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: I think it was the first take, and then we

867
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: just went home rather standing ovation and off I went

868
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: into my frisbee glory yet again, So.

869
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 4: Were you really standing on the roof or was that

870
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 4: just to create a camera angle?

871
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: No? No, no, yeah, how do you recreate that?

872
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: That seems dangerous?

873
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: No, it's not that high.

874
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: It seems dangerous.

875
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they you know, they have stunt people on there,

876
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: and they have safety people and and they check out

877
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: the roof or any loose shingles, and you know, I

878
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: don't know that there was a an air bag below

879
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: us if somebody had fallen off.

880
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

881
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that they went to that extent.

882
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: But or what if you were harnessed somehow maybe No,

883
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: I don't know who. They look dangerous and Stars Hollow.

884
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: Wo. We do the risky stuff, man, That's why we

885
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: get the big bucks.

886
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: So then we then have the scene that actually, I

887
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: it was pretty intense. So Laura lies driving by and

888
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: she sees Rory picking up the trash, which for any

889
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: mother that would be rough, right, that's rough, and she

890
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: you turns it, pulls over and they kind of go

891
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: at it.

892
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: Were it both? Yeah, it's it's listen. They have they're

893
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: best friends and their mother and daughter, and now we're

894
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: seeing where that isn't working out well for either one

895
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: of them. But I think mothers and daughters and fathers

896
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: and sons that you know, have conflict. It's not uncommon, right,

897
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: And they're both you know that is Rory is uh

898
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: you know, grew up with that. She's got the same

899
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: sort of strength, right, She's her own Rory has been

900
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: always been her own person. She was taught to be

901
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: that way. She had that that glowing example of Laurel I,

902
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, sticking her flag in the ground and Stars

903
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: Hollow and being independent and strong. Yeah, and so of

904
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: course you know she's going to be independent and strong,

905
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: which is what Laurel I wants wants for her daughter

906
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: to make her way through the world. So it was

907
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: one of my favorite scenes between those two because it

908
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: again showed an aspect of the relationship that is completely

909
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: uh right on I mean on brand. As I've said before,

910
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: that that's what you're going to get, these two strong

911
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: women standing up to one another, and it's a necessary

912
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: step in a relationship, in any relationship is standing your ground.

913
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: So it just is a little more fraught with you know,

914
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: feelings when it's a mother and a daughter. Yeah, especially

915
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: for the audience to watch, because we've all been there

916
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: with our parents.

917
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: So you make great points. Yeah, I mean you're right, Like,

918
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: even though it's sort of like awkward and sort of

919
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: ouch to watch, right, you're right. She's not going to

920
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: pull over the car and be like, oh no, you're

921
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: picking up trash, and she's not gonna say I miss you, mommy,

922
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, I mean.

923
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: It shows how far the mighty have fallen and how

924
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Rory is not fulfilling her potential and how quickly life

925
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: can change for you. Just the nature of life, and

926
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: it also is also emblematic of a right of passage

927
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: for mother and daughter. It's a necessary, necessary situation.

928
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 2: And do you think Rory, though she says, I can't

929
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: believe you got engaged and didn't tell me, I think

930
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: she's a little bit upset in the sense that Laurels thriving,

931
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: or at least it's perceived she's thriving. She's got you know,

932
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: she's she's happy, she's engaged. You know, her life is

933
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: going well. And Rory's is in the pooper right, like

934
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: she's just picking up trash on the side of the road.

935
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: She's bored now she's in the daar like. Maybe it's

936
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 2: partially she's like jealous in a sense that Laurela is

937
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: able to move on without her.

938
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I got from that whole thing too,

939
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 4: is you know, she's a little bitter that Larela is

940
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: not as unhappy as she is, which, of course we

941
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 4: know underneath that Larela I is right sad about the riff,

942
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 4: but at least too from Rory's point of view, she

943
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 4: sees Laurel I moving on and so that would be distressing.

944
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think in a micro sense, Laurel.

945
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: I feels like, hey, kid, you didn't listen to me

946
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: about this huntsper thing. It's not the world you want

947
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: to be in. I warned you. I told you so,

948
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: now look at you. In the macro sense, it's her

949
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: Laurla having to come with terms with allowing her daughter

950
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: to make her own mistakes and then deal with the consequences.

951
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: So doesn't negate the fact that everybody's going to have

952
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: very strong feelings about it. Yeah, it's going to cause

953
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: some tension in the relationship, but that's that's life. They're

954
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: just living there. Everybody's living their lives, you know. So yeah,

955
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: it's it's a really really sort of uh dead on

956
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: portrayal that Dan wrote, you know, very very good writing,

957
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: very very good psychology.

958
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: So what do you think of the whole episode?

959
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: I just loved it. I just it's one of my

960
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: favorites because it was just so easy, breezy and I

961
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: just filled with the right kind of drama. There were

962
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: different levels of drama there was. It was all relationship

963
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: be drama, mother daughter, Luke, Laurele drama, sister drama. Yeah,

964
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: you know that all that stuff was was was there.

965
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know it just felt very full for me.

966
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: It was that.

967
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt yeah totally. There was no interesting that,

968
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: there was no tailor, no Kirk right right, it was

969
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: just it was just they sort of focused on these

970
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: powerful relationships. It was it was a Luke, Laurel I, Rory,

971
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: Emily Richard, Emily Richard.

972
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, no Logan.

973
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: Not a slugfest, no Logan. You know, it was just

974
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: sort of.

975
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, it almost every scene is really about

976
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 2: those five people. Every scene. In fact, I don't know

977
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: why I'm saying almost it's really an episode that focus

978
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 2: is on the core five. Yeah, and I think that's

979
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: one reason I like it. Those are the five I

980
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: care about the most. I mean, I'm not saying I

981
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: don't love the others, but like obviously I love Logan,

982
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: but those five are what makes the show, especially now

983
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: that we're in season six.

984
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: Mm. Yeah, it was it was, it felt it felt really.

985
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to have a favorite one. I

986
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: love this whole thing. I would say maybe the scene

987
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 2: where they're in the jag. Every single line there is great,

988
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: every single line TJ. I mean I don't really I

989
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: can't have one because I thought this script was really

990
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: really really good.

991
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

992
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: I love them all, but this one for me, just

993
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: the whole thing, every zinger, every line, every everything.

994
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I think my favorite line was that

995
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 4: Hamster was defective.

996
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: What about Amy? What do you think I'm gonna I'm gonna,

997
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride on Susanne Susanne's coattails. I laughed out

998
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: loud on that line. I thought it was the best.

999
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: The best laugh in that whole episode was Laurel I

1000
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: jumping on that one.

1001
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, the timing was perfect.

1002
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: How about when Luke finds out about the hole and

1003
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: he's all him kill t J, like not even sentences

1004
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: like it was so that whole.

1005
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 4: Bit about garrotting him and taking him to a ballgame like.

1006
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: That was really and I forgot I do. I also

1007
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: love when you Rory comes into the diner and you're

1008
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: so awkward and you're like, you know, yeah, he wanted

1009
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: to spiff it up. Spiff j.

1010
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, one one of my favorite episodes. Yeah, i'd say

1011
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: top top five or which.

1012
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 2: Is allegedly a bit of a miracle for season six

1013
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: because people do not love season six, right.

1014
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: Another word I would use for is very compact. You know,

1015
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: it was air tight episode.

1016
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: I'm giving it ten frisbees.

1017
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: I am too, I'm giving it ten massive holes in

1018
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: the master bedroom.

1019
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was a great episode. I'll just to be different.

1020
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 4: I'll give it a nine point nine nine point nine

1021
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 4: t J shops.

1022
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: When you said how dare you? It made me want

1023
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: to do and flashlight thingies. It was very Darth.

1024
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: Bagerh Suzanne, you know exactly what to say. Talk about

1025
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: stealing spotlight love it. Next episode, Season six, episode three,

1026
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: The Ungraduate. So we're continuing our homage to Mike Nichols

1027
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: wonderfully the graduate. Good good, good. Can't wait to see

1028
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: it anyway. Uh, that's it. Thanks to say thank you, Amy, Uh.

1029
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 2: Good performance, Scott good. Good performance in this episode.

1030
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: Thank you really good, Thank you really good. Yeah. I

1031
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: thought it was good. Yeah. I wasn't uncomfortable with any

1032
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: of it.

1033
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 2: And you had to do a lot, like you had

1034
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: to be sweet and cute, you had to be romantic,

1035
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: you had to deal with the dog. You have the

1036
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: awkward scene with Alexis, you have the fight with Laura,

1037
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: like you do it a lot, and it was good.

1038
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got to show a little bit of range

1039
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: in this. Yeah, you know, and so thank you Dan

1040
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: uh and uh that's going to do with best fans

1041
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: on the planet. Keep those cards and letters coming, uh

1042
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: and the emails and the d ms and all that

1043
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: wonderful stuff, and we will see you next time. Remember

1044
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at MotorCity Comic Con November ten, eleven,

1045
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: and twelve.

1046
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 2: That's pretty rad, that's rare.

1047
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm also going to be a Columbus Galaxy Con Columbus,

1048
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: Ohio on December two and three, So come on out

1049
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 1: and let's party. That's going to do it all the best,

1050
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: and remember we I am all in. Stay safe everyone, everybody,

1051
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