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Speaker 2: Alright, alright, alright, did no man?
Speaker 3: Darn your.
Speaker 2: Gredians, and welcome to a little Wednesday scramble here reacting
Speaker 2: to some consequential I don't know if it's monumental consequential
Speaker 2: news in the Professional Golf World Live two point zero
Speaker 2: appears to be not full go, but have life and
Speaker 2: signs of life going forward. As Scott O'Neill holds a
Speaker 2: press conference from Trump Bedminster as they get ready for
Speaker 2: their event there this weekend, O'Neill announced that they have
Speaker 2: an investor signed. He did not say who it is,
Speaker 2: or what it is, how much it is, any real
Speaker 2: specifics about it, but that investor has signed on. There's
Speaker 2: a new model, Joseph here for five events in the US,
Speaker 2: five events internationally. Player equity will be a part of it.
Speaker 2: I think the players will essentially have a significant stake
Speaker 2: of the league. They already had some stake in the teams.
Speaker 2: How that all worked was sort of a subject of
Speaker 2: debate as the league took on all the losses and
Speaker 2: the team sort of operated with you know, without that
Speaker 2: without having that that that sort of weight around their neck.
Speaker 2: But the players will have now an equity stake in
Speaker 2: this league, should they choose to day or come aboard
Speaker 2: any reaction here with this quote major investor, they said
Speaker 2: it will close in September.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of reactions. I mean, first off, it's
Speaker 3: it was important that this happened that for a Live
Speaker 3: to continue into the future, Like there's rumblings that there
Speaker 3: was some investor involved in that it could continue on
Speaker 3: in some fashion. But I think there were also some
Speaker 3: level of concern that, like, hey, that we might be
Speaker 3: watching the last couple live events yeah, over the next
Speaker 3: few weeks. So this does dispel that notion. And it
Speaker 3: sounds like, I mean, Scott O'Neil says that if this
Speaker 3: deal comes to fruition, there's going to be a league
Speaker 3: in twenty eight and twenty nine and twenty thirty, Like
Speaker 3: he made it sound like this is they are now
Speaker 3: secured for the long term future. I also feel like
Speaker 3: there's another side of this that's like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: how is Live going to be a viable product next year.
Speaker 3: If it hasn't been a viable product these past few years,
Speaker 3: they're probably going to lose some talent and go to
Speaker 3: this smaller schedule like this. Who's investing? Like, what? What
Speaker 3: are are you investing in? Here? There's no real asset,
Speaker 3: But maybe we want to leave that discussion for another
Speaker 3: date and focus on the immediacy of the funding. What's
Speaker 3: your reaction.
Speaker 2: My reaction is not one necessarily of surprise. I think
Speaker 2: there's a lot of money out there in the world
Speaker 2: that looking to get into sports and whatever fashion they can.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, obviously this is the paired down
Speaker 2: version of Live or if it were to proceed, you know,
Speaker 2: an element of this announcement where that players will have
Speaker 2: their l NIL rights again and can play on other
Speaker 2: tours if eligible and invited. I don't see that just
Speaker 2: starting to open up for these players, certainly on the
Speaker 2: PGA Tour, which continues to dominate, and I'd like to
Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about the tour and their
Speaker 2: continued to roll out of whatever their future is. As
Speaker 2: FedEx might be out today in Memphis and maybe as
Speaker 2: the umbrella sponsor of a FedEx Cup but yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: curious about what it is that's going forward. I have
Speaker 2: a couple like seems like they probably won't retain all
Speaker 2: their talent. Some of their big guns may leave. What
Speaker 2: is the value of having inequity in this league? I
Speaker 2: think a plausible implication from all this, which is important
Speaker 2: to live, is that Bryson seems committed to some version
Speaker 2: of whatever's going seems I should say implausible. Want to
Speaker 2: hedge there, given that he led the player meeting on Tuesday,
Speaker 2: I'd say there's maybe a few hints in Scott O'Neill's
Speaker 2: press conference that he may be involved monetarily. You know,
Speaker 2: he said, you know, when asked about the piff. It's
Speaker 2: something that clearly this is a sponsor that cares about
Speaker 2: the game of golf, This unnamed sponsor. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's a lead investor Bryson. You know, there was
Speaker 2: rumors that was two hundred and fifty million, not rumors, reports,
Speaker 2: I should say, from Mark Cannezzaro with the New York
Speaker 2: Post two hundred fifty million. I don't know that Bryson
Speaker 2: will put that up, but that a sponsor that cares
Speaker 2: about the game of golf. Appreciates the impact that we're
Speaker 2: having in terms of driving a younger audience into this game.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say that sounds like Bryson, but
Speaker 2: it feels like. And then they added the global nature,
Speaker 2: exploring all continents of the world and growing it globally,
Speaker 2: and stars descending on global markets. Sounds in line with
Speaker 2: what Bryson talks about. So I'd say that for me,
Speaker 2: seems like one of the more notable implications from some
Speaker 2: of this. Again we're reading between the lines because we
Speaker 2: have so few specifics, is that Bryson might stay on.
Speaker 2: That's been a question throughout the summer as he tried
Speaker 2: to negotiate first with the PIFF this year for a
Speaker 2: pretty massive contract, resign a new contract, and then you know,
Speaker 2: once PIFF left, of whether he would bail or how
Speaker 2: he would be involved and live. For me, that seems
Speaker 2: like a possible implication today.
Speaker 3: It's interesting. I actually didn't read it that way that
Speaker 3: Bryson might be the lead investor.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's I don't think he's putting two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million, but it seems like he could
Speaker 2: be involved based on leading team meetings and just the
Speaker 2: way he's I don't know that John Rahm is, I
Speaker 2: don't know that Terrel Hatton is, I don't know that
Speaker 2: some of the other stars are on board with this.
Speaker 3: Who knows. Yeah, as you're saying that, that's kind of
Speaker 3: where my head is going. This feels like it's going
Speaker 3: to be the Bryson Show, and regardless of what kind
Speaker 3: of investment he's going to put into it, that going
Speaker 3: forward next year it's like Bryson and I don't want
Speaker 3: to say a bunch of scrubs because there is still
Speaker 3: some talent on the roster, but they could lose some
Speaker 3: of their biggest names. It sounds like, and then you're
Speaker 3: looking at like Bryson and not the most recognizable names
Speaker 3: in the world, Like maybe you keep guys like a
Speaker 3: Lucas Herbert. I don't know exactly what his contract looks like,
Speaker 3: but some of the they go to the Australia and
Speaker 3: maybe you still have Cam Smith who shows up in
Speaker 3: Australia with this paired down schedule. But it kind of
Speaker 3: sounds to me like it's Bryson as the main attraction
Speaker 3: and then losing some of the biggest stars and that's
Speaker 3: what we see going forward. That's in doing a lot
Speaker 3: of reading between the lines, but it seems like we
Speaker 3: might be headed that direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know what the status is of
Speaker 2: their rights deal. Right, they had fourteen events, now they
Speaker 2: have ten? Is this like a Bryson YouTube circuit like quit?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Is it more akin to that. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: say it's purely that, but its shades more like that
Speaker 2: than a tour Like is this just a and a
Speaker 2: worldwide events business?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Like concert series with golf? I'm not sure. Right, they
Speaker 2: seems like they don't have enough events for OWGR, Like
Speaker 2: that's going to be a whole kind of another review
Speaker 2: that's going to have to happen here at the end
Speaker 2: of the year. I think, like a somewhat hat tip
Speaker 2: to Scott O'Neill for pulling something out of the hat here.
Speaker 2: Maybe I guess we'll have more details in September. Is
Speaker 2: still you know, a little bit away as they try
Speaker 2: to finalize it, but he says it's signed, something signed.
Speaker 2: I just don't know, like how long terms sustainable this is.
Speaker 2: It seems like they'll have ten events in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Will they have OWGR points, Will it have some of
Speaker 2: the stars that are on it right now or lead
Speaker 2: players that are on it right now. The purse is
Speaker 2: This is a Sean Zach note in his report on
Speaker 2: golf dot com. The amount of money on offer will
Speaker 2: also change. The expectation is that lives thirty million dollars
Speaker 2: persons will shrink to less than twenty million, and perhaps
Speaker 2: even beneath fifteen million as it looks to streamline its
Speaker 2: available capital entering its next season. I'll add that there
Speaker 2: was not a lot of specifics on whether Michigan's happening
Speaker 2: when you talk about streamlining and saving capital Michigan this year.
Speaker 2: It seems like they're gonna do New Jersey in indye
Speaker 2: and then like figure out what money they got and
Speaker 2: go with this plan. Yeah, so you do you buy?
Speaker 2: That is more of like a an informal sort of
Speaker 2: like events worldwide events circuit.
Speaker 3: It seems like they're just gonna do whatever they can
Speaker 3: do to keep the lights on and experiment with what
Speaker 3: works next year. The report from ESPN Mark Chlebeck said
Speaker 3: ten events in twenty twenty seven, five international ones like
Speaker 3: the Australia, South Africa, England, Hong Kong and Mexico, and
Speaker 3: then I in the United States.
Speaker 2: I thought clod was out. I figured they would stay
Speaker 2: in Spain Valderrama and do that.
Speaker 3: But well, John Ram's future might dictate whether or not
Speaker 3: how badly they want to go to Spain. Yeah, fireballs
Speaker 3: though part of this, And I know the OWGR is
Speaker 3: maybe not the most interesting implication, but like when Live
Speaker 3: started and everyone was saying, hey, the owgr's job is
Speaker 3: to rank the best players in the world, like they
Speaker 3: need to rank they need to find a way to
Speaker 3: rank these live events. Part of the counter to that
Speaker 3: was like, actually, like you need to abide by certain
Speaker 3: rules so that there's some stability and so that we
Speaker 3: can rank this accurately. And now we're actually we're seeing
Speaker 3: exactly why because if this thing gets all uprooted next
Speaker 3: year and it's way hard, way fewer events, way harder
Speaker 3: to compare apples to oranges, basically, and you know how
Speaker 3: much overlap there is amongst the tours, Like, yeah, there
Speaker 3: are OWGR implications, and that does matter because as I'm
Speaker 3: sure you're you wanted to get into a little bit
Speaker 3: like how do you recruit people to Live? What is
Speaker 3: the selling point? Now to guys, they might be back
Speaker 3: in the same position where it's like, Okay, you're not
Speaker 3: going to get wowgr points. I guess the selling point
Speaker 3: is they're pretty big purses and it's a small schedule
Speaker 3: and you can play other golf.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, it sounds like the American the
Speaker 2: five US events are going to be pinned around the Major,
Speaker 2: so there's some sort of schedule convenience or continuity. I
Speaker 2: would say, you know, there's a recruiting pitch. Who it's
Speaker 2: for is a separate It's a separate issue. You're going
Speaker 2: for like probably the mid tier, mid tier DP World
Speaker 2: Tour player, right if they can remain keep eligibility, Like
Speaker 2: DP World Tour doesn't have fifty million dollar purses very often,
Speaker 2: if ever, Right, And so if I could just go
Speaker 2: play this sort of traveling circus circuit for you know,
Speaker 2: eight eight weeks a year, ten weeks, I think that's
Speaker 2: the recruiting pitch. There's dude, there's a lot of golf
Speaker 2: tours out there, and this is something I kind of
Speaker 2: want to get into in a little bit with with
Speaker 2: the tour looking for umbrella sponsors for the Challenger series
Speaker 2: and a proud partner model they want to institute for
Speaker 2: the opposite field events is what I'll call them, that
Speaker 2: are not even on network TV. They want to bring
Speaker 2: the players championship model for Like what are they who
Speaker 2: are they selling that to? I feel like there's a
Speaker 2: lot of golfers willing to play for any amount of
Speaker 2: money and on any kind of circuit that they will
Speaker 2: have recruits for it. It's just, you know, is is
Speaker 2: it just Bryson some guys and how and how? What's
Speaker 2: the business pitch there?
Speaker 3: Right? And I'm imagining you're still going to be suspended
Speaker 3: from the tour if you play right.
Speaker 2: It feels like the DP World Tour, though they've sorted
Speaker 2: out that. As long as you, you know, sort out
Speaker 2: that kind of coexistence, I would say anything else on
Speaker 2: the like news of that, there's not a lot of
Speaker 2: hard news besides five International, five domestic. It says, it
Speaker 2: says this is a lead investor with there are he
Speaker 2: added multiple dozens more a dozen additional parties to potentially
Speaker 2: serve as minority investors, creating a multi partner model built
Speaker 2: for long term stability and growth. A dozen additional parties,
Speaker 2: some player equity, any other hard details you think I'm missing?
Speaker 2: Scott O'Neil talked for a bit there. I know you
Speaker 2: were amused by some of his comments.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I mean, as a Sixers guy, I
Speaker 3: was disappointed nobody asked the Lebron question, but uh, I
Speaker 3: think it actually was substantive that that. At the end
Speaker 3: of the press conference, somebody asked if they if Scott
Speaker 3: feels like the new investor commitment will allow him to
Speaker 3: keep in a forward stars the likes of Bryson and
Speaker 3: John Ram going forward, and Scott O'Neill responds with this,
Speaker 3: like pretty long winding story about baseball and how a
Speaker 3: guy he knew at Turner Sports talked about the aging
Speaker 3: demographic of people who watch baseball and that they needed
Speaker 3: to evolve the game. And now there's a pitch clock
Speaker 3: and he's like, so, did that answer your question? The
Speaker 3: reporters like not, basically like no, what about keeping Bryson
Speaker 3: and John Yeah. Scott kind of goes on to say
Speaker 3: that he is all the time in the world for
Speaker 3: those two, but like, how you define a star is
Speaker 3: not as straightforward as that. I think what he was
Speaker 3: getting at is that he may not be able to
Speaker 3: retain all the stars. You and I reading between the lines,
Speaker 3: it sounds like Bryson is probably staying based on him
Speaker 3: again leading the player only meeting on Tuesday and seeming
Speaker 3: to be kind of committed to this. But I am
Speaker 3: reading this as John ram is a goner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to add the definition of star cackled a
Speaker 2: little bit with this quote, we've been blessed with stars.
Speaker 2: I define it a little bit differently. So okay, just
Speaker 2: let's define our own world here. I define it a
Speaker 2: little bit differently. And for those of you who have
Speaker 2: had the privilege and pleasure to travel us around the world,
Speaker 2: you see, you get to see it. But I don't
Speaker 2: think there was any bigger star on the planet in
Speaker 2: South Africa than Dean Burmus.
Speaker 3: I loved that.
Speaker 2: And I don't think there was any bigger star on
Speaker 2: the planet than Cam Smith when we were in Australia.
Speaker 2: That is demonstrably false, Like he was maybe the biggest
Speaker 2: star in that fifteen mile radius or one hundred mile radius,
Speaker 2: but that's not that's You can define it however you want,
Speaker 2: but that's not true. I think those events were successful
Speaker 2: and popular, but again that's just a preposterous sort of
Speaker 2: deflection and non sequitor.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any bigger star at Myrtle beach
Speaker 3: than brand Snedecker earlier this year.
Speaker 2: That all right, that's not a fair that's not a
Speaker 2: fair sort of comparison to what he's saying. I get
Speaker 2: what he's saying, but to include the whole planet. There
Speaker 2: is not a realistic definition of star. So there's some
Speaker 2: Michie shout out at Sam Hinky about optionality, wanting to
Speaker 2: keep optionality open and trust the process was not cited.
Speaker 2: I don't believe, but that might be what he's telling
Speaker 2: his players now. Honestly, it feels like we'll see it's
Speaker 2: very early. It feels like more of an exhibition for
Speaker 2: guys who are semi retired on the way out can
Speaker 2: play for some cash, you know, maybe some fringe deep
Speaker 2: world tour players up and comers. Bryson like, that's that's
Speaker 2: how I read it right now, Well, all these teams
Speaker 2: still exist, all you know, thirteen teams probably not, Maybe
Speaker 2: they exist, but with very different rosters. Yeah, it seems
Speaker 2: like there's gonna be a half team competent, you know,
Speaker 2: team championship focus with some individual focus. It just it
Speaker 2: feels shading more towards an exhibition's who's gonna be the
Speaker 2: rights holder? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think if you're really the one part I guess
Speaker 3: we haven't really touched on specifically. If you're an ambitious
Speaker 3: young golfer who's currently underlive contract, whether that's Elvis Smiley,
Speaker 3: that's a biased stare David Pooge, Like, these guys have
Speaker 3: to they should do whatever they want, But you got
Speaker 3: to imagine they're trying to get out of their contract
Speaker 3: in somewhere that they can play competitively. Because if it's
Speaker 3: let's say you're David Pooge, I think he's twenty four.
Speaker 3: If he plays for another year, and sure there's nice perses,
Speaker 3: but if he's suspended from the PGA Tour for another
Speaker 3: year at the end of that, like it's good. He
Speaker 3: needs to eventually take some steps to get to the
Speaker 3: most competitive tournaments and have access to majors. And if
Speaker 3: it's a ten of schedule, that's not getting OWGR points,
Speaker 3: but you can also play DP World Tour, Like that's
Speaker 3: not a very competitive schedule for somebody who's twenty three
Speaker 3: to twenty five years old and looking to advance their career.
Speaker 3: So I got to imagine some of those guys are
Speaker 3: making phone calls to try to get out of their contract.
Speaker 2: What would presume there's no guaranteed money here, maybe you
Speaker 2: get a cut of equity, Like this isn't the whole thing,
Speaker 2: where Like if you signed like Tom mckibbon a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago signed up and got whatever. Michael Losasso
Speaker 2: even this offseason got however, many millions of dollars. Presumably
Speaker 2: that kind of capital unless for a few maybe one
Speaker 2: to two guys, is not going to be there. And
Speaker 2: but that's a presumption I'm making clearly, Like this could
Speaker 2: be a billionaire who's willing to just go for it,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what he's going for, but could
Speaker 2: have some amount of capital and pockets. Be interesting to
Speaker 2: see how that if there's any streams crossing with the
Speaker 2: SSG and all the people behind that, who this person
Speaker 2: who's behind all this lead investor that Mark kenz Are reported.
Speaker 3: The other thing was earlier in the week, Flushing It
Speaker 3: had put out a post about how John Rahm's contract
Speaker 3: is is backloaded. Reportedly right very interested in how some
Speaker 3: of those details shake out of what John ram is
Speaker 3: still owed by Live, how that works if he does
Speaker 3: leave that that is a huge undercurrent of a.
Speaker 2: Lot of this right and is he committed to that
Speaker 2: contract sole on his live exists even if it's a
Speaker 2: live two point zero and they can pay the contract?
Speaker 2: Do they want to pay given how much capital they
Speaker 2: have now versus what they you know, that's that's sort
Speaker 2: of an Then he's on this sort of maybe he's
Speaker 2: committed if they're paying him to this this kind of
Speaker 2: hollowed out sunking half sunken ship or exhibition series.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did he want them to find funding like that?
Speaker 3: That was one of my main questions this morning, Like
Speaker 3: rom probably didn't.
Speaker 2: I should probably like say this for podcasts, but like
Speaker 2: one thing for to day. I started my day of
Speaker 2: reading about all the FedEx stuff and the tour looking
Speaker 2: for they're going to put umbrella sponsors on top of
Speaker 2: the Challenger series.
Speaker 3: What was that? Do you want to tell? You want
Speaker 3: to explain?
Speaker 2: Okay, FedEx is out, FedEx Saint Jude Memphis is out
Speaker 2: as a as an elevated significant event.
Speaker 3: It's out.
Speaker 2: Also FedEx might be out as an umbrella sponsor of
Speaker 2: the tour. This follows the stuff yesterday from David Ramsey
Speaker 2: and other on front of that. That's from Josh Carpenter.
Speaker 2: I believe, uh, yesterday from David Rumsey front Off of
Speaker 2: Sports about how you know they're looking for ten million
Speaker 2: for these Challenger Series event I I I'm kind of
Speaker 2: in the same spot I was. It's just come back
Speaker 2: around to being like sort of turned off by all
Speaker 2: the money talk, and we're just moving and changing. I
Speaker 2: admire the tour. I think seems to be prioritizing product.
Speaker 2: If I would say that that's a takeaway, I'm taking
Speaker 2: Memphis out of this all important place on the tour schedule.
Speaker 2: That seems to be a commitment to like, hey, we're
Speaker 2: not gonna let FedEx put their thumb on the scale
Speaker 2: and make TPC South win the super Bowl or a
Speaker 2: significant event. And we've kind of called for that for years.
Speaker 2: I haven't done this forever, but long enough to remember
Speaker 2: when that was no offense, like one of the probably
Speaker 2: the worst event on the one of the worst events
Speaker 2: of the PGA Tours a week before the US Open.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was not very good ten years ago, eight years
Speaker 2: ago has history, certainly, but then it became this pretty
Speaker 2: significant took Firestone off and became this pretty significant PGA
Speaker 2: Tour event. I don't know, ever since we created the
Speaker 2: elevated series or designate events. Ever since Live came into
Speaker 2: our existence, my constant question has been, are the majors
Speaker 2: still the majors? Cool, let's go. We'll just keep going
Speaker 2: ahead with what I really care about, what really actually
Speaker 2: matters in golf. And you guys can care your new
Speaker 2: series and create your new sponsors and create, you know,
Speaker 2: find your new funding to make Live two point zero go.
Speaker 2: And like, if the majors are still the majors, they
Speaker 2: continue to stand out and separate themselves. And that's what
Speaker 2: I got. I got a little exhaustion from reading every
Speaker 2: day about the new PGA Tour future. Doesn't mean I'm
Speaker 2: not excited about, you know, maybe some new new ways
Speaker 2: of thinking going on down there. But if the majors
Speaker 2: are still the majors, they will continue to stand out
Speaker 2: as everybody else shuffles, shuffle stack chairs in some instances,
Speaker 2: on sinking chips or tries to build a new ship
Speaker 2: all together. In the PGA Tours instance. Is that a
Speaker 2: fair sort of personal stance to take?
Speaker 3: I think the saying are the majors still the majors?
Speaker 3: That's what I'm going to care about, is a fair
Speaker 3: overarching position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably unfair to loop the PGA Tour changes
Speaker 2: in with whatever's going on with LIV. I don't mean
Speaker 2: to compare those two as if like they're equal and
Speaker 2: effort and and chance for success. But I've just sort
Speaker 2: of exhausted again about reading about all the business shit again,
Speaker 2: and the golf competitions that I will care about most
Speaker 2: will still be the majors.
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. What I was going to say
Speaker 3: is Brian Rolapp clearly has a vision for the way
Speaker 3: that the tour needed to change, And if you go
Speaker 3: layout with a twenty event schedule or twenty three, whatever
Speaker 3: the exact number ends up being, Memphis didn't really fit
Speaker 3: into that picture when you consider what's the best product,
Speaker 3: considering the market, considering the time of year, I don't
Speaker 3: think Memphis fit in that. So I don't think we
Speaker 3: can freak out every time we see an announcement that's
Speaker 3: kind of what we already expected. Like I honestly didn't
Speaker 3: have that big of a reaction to this, because I
Speaker 3: think this was expected. Memphis wasn't going to be part
Speaker 3: of the Championship Series.
Speaker 2: I think that's right. I think the potential that FedEx
Speaker 2: is lost as an umbrella sponsor is significant.
Speaker 3: I mean that's a.
Speaker 2: Change in era. Like the tour for as long as
Speaker 2: we've known it has like bent the knee to whatever
Speaker 2: FedEx wants and needs, and maybe rightfully so, I mean,
Speaker 2: I we were I felt like it was basically Jay
Speaker 2: Monahan was a FedEx drive truck driver, you know, he
Speaker 2: would do anything. They would do anything to appease FedEx,
Speaker 2: and maybe that was the right thing to do, But
Speaker 2: this feels like a change in course on that. If
Speaker 2: they're lost as the potential whatever the Cup is or
Speaker 2: Season one competition is, that's a big change in era
Speaker 2: almost twenty years.
Speaker 3: Well, well, I think we would all FedEx cub. The
Speaker 3: FedEx cub didn't work, and so it's probably just a
Speaker 3: case of FedEx wrote a way bigger check than maybe
Speaker 3: they should have. And you can understand a lot of
Speaker 3: the way that the tour operated for the past fifteen
Speaker 3: years through that lens and now that now that air
Speaker 3: is ending. So I don't know, it felt like it
Speaker 3: had to end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe the way getting out of Memphis is
Speaker 2: the start is sort of like the pulling the pin
Speaker 2: to hasten everything else. The way they're talking there there
Speaker 2: seems to be money the way they're talking. I don't
Speaker 2: know what the reality is money for, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's going to be you know, Bob
Speaker 2: simms Ford down on Market Street, come on down by
Speaker 2: a new F one fifty. It will be a proud
Speaker 2: partner of the opposite field event model. I don't know
Speaker 2: what all the There's like so many levels of sponsorship.
Speaker 2: There's main umbrella sponsors for challengers entire tours. There's you know,
Speaker 2: maybe twenty five thirty million, thirty five million dollars sponsors
Speaker 2: for Championship Series event. They're claiming a lot of different
Speaker 2: tiers of sponsorship interest and we'll see. Maybe that's that
Speaker 2: gives them the room to say FedEx to all right,
Speaker 2: we're out see it.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just being too uh gullible or giving role
Speaker 3: app too much benefit of the doubt, But I do
Speaker 3: kind of it like scrutinizing some of the decisions from
Speaker 3: Afar When he has access to so much more information
Speaker 3: about potential sponsors, I feel like he probably has this
Speaker 3: pretty in order.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not scrutinizing it. I think I'm not saying
Speaker 2: you have it.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm more saying like there's there's freakouts off
Speaker 3: into like oh my goodness, like the tour is losing
Speaker 3: that and this is going to be this price, like
Speaker 3: no one's going to pay that, and then it gets
Speaker 3: announced that somebody wants to pay that, Like, I have
Speaker 3: a feeling Brian Rolapp has a pretty good sense of
Speaker 3: what he can what sponsorships are potentially available out there,
Speaker 3: So I don't know, it kind of seems like we're
Speaker 3: moving in the right direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it just seems like there's a lot of
Speaker 2: money at a lot of different levels that they have
Speaker 2: planned here.
Speaker 3: Interesting imagine trying to get a corn fairy tour type
Speaker 3: title sponsor.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, maybe we could spot you know how these
Speaker 2: bulls get like the pulan weed eat or ball like
Speaker 2: and it's not that much. Maybe that's where we're going.
Speaker 2: Maybe we could sponsor one. Maybe we drum up some cats,
Speaker 2: start to go fundme for the people to sponsor. I
Speaker 2: don't know, pick out a KFT event anyways, a big
Speaker 2: day I guess in the business of golf between the
Speaker 2: FedEx it is and then Live two point zero specifics
Speaker 2: TBD and they still got a month I guess to
Speaker 2: consummate the transaction, whatever it may be. But pen is
Speaker 2: the paper, per Scott O'Neil. We will maybe find a
Speaker 2: name out of who the investor is and what it
Speaker 2: is and when it's coming. But sounds like a two
Speaker 2: point oh I would say, is it's a shell of
Speaker 2: what Live was? Is that a fair statement?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I honestly, if you weren't watching Live now, I
Speaker 3: cannot imagine why you'd start watching Live two point zero.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some credit to keeping it alive in some form
Speaker 2: or fashion, to O'Neil and whoever you know, people that
Speaker 2: have been working on it, any other thing, any other
Speaker 2: thing to muse you from his talk musement park business.
Speaker 2: Didn't you shut out the amusement part?
Speaker 3: A lot of amuse me, Scott, starting with if you
Speaker 3: sign up, you know he spent roll theme park business.
Speaker 3: If you sign up for a roller coaster, you can't
Speaker 3: expect a carousel. I mean, that's amusing analogy, but also
Speaker 3: like kind of damning that he that he's I guess
Speaker 3: just saying out loud that he signed up for a
Speaker 3: roller coaster. I don't know that it would have been
Speaker 3: characterized as a roller coaster when he took the job.
Speaker 1: Right, right.
Speaker 2: Everything obviously changed in April and the piff it pulled out,
Speaker 2: So all right, Cott's quetchal Day Live two point zero
Speaker 2: on the horizon. We will talk about it, I'm sure
Speaker 2: on shotguns. Start on Friday, that is to come and
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