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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, sad day for Baseball yesterday. We knew it

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Speaker 1: was coming, so it's not a shock. There's still the

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Speaker 1: element of surprise though that you go, You guys negotiated

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Speaker 1: that long, that many hours the deadline deadline passed. How

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Speaker 1: can you have a deadline then you let the deadline pass.

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Speaker 1: It's not really a deadline if it's not a true deadline.

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Speaker 1: And then it's like we've extended the deadline. Well, then

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Speaker 1: that wasn't a deadline, was it. Baseball canceled its first

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Speaker 1: two regular season series, and I don't know what's going

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Speaker 1: to be the aftershocks with this. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: long it goes. Now you're looking at probably a season

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Speaker 1: of one hundred and fifty six games per team, not

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Speaker 1: one sixty two. I would probably pose this question to

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Speaker 1: the casual sports fan. Did you know when Opening Day was?

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Speaker 1: You know they could move it back if they wanted to.

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Speaker 1: I'd be okay with that. Have it April tenth, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with any of that. Baseball should be concerned

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Speaker 1: about the casual fan, because you're I feel bad for

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Speaker 1: the diehard, the hardcore baseball fan because they do watch

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two games. The casual fan may

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Speaker 1: tune in to see Shohyutani or Mike Trout, Clayton Kershaw pitch,

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Speaker 1: Garrett Cole pitch, maybe watch a couple of innings here

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Speaker 1: and there. But Opening Day it's a big deal. It's

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Speaker 1: always been a big deal. And you don't have competition.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's no football to get in the way.

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Speaker 1: March madness, Okay, you know that'll be around, but you

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Speaker 1: still March Madness will be ending in the first week

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Speaker 1: of April. But a Major League Baseball is you don't

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Speaker 1: drawn a line in the sand. They've done this before,

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Speaker 1: and when you think about it, I always hate when

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Speaker 1: you have negotiations that go right down to the last minute,

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Speaker 1: or we have to stay up all night. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to every one of these work stoppages or strikes

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Speaker 1: that I've covered, and I'll go back to football lockouts,

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Speaker 1: replacement players, and it's it's truly a game with these

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Speaker 1: two because you want to feel like you got something,

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Speaker 1: but you want to make sure the other side hurts

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But you know exactly what the trigger

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Speaker 1: points are. If it's this, it's that seems like the

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Speaker 1: middle ground. Hey we're this close, it's yeah, but we

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Speaker 1: can't get there yet. It's almost like you go, no,

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Speaker 1: I gotta make you hurt a little bit here, but

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Speaker 1: you have to give the appearance that you won. And

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Speaker 1: you know, so there's this. It's it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: game of semantics, it feels like. But the commissioner, this

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Speaker 1: is what he does. The commissioner talks to the owners,

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Speaker 1: they give him marching orders. He goes up there, and

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Speaker 1: then he's going to take the slings and arrows. This

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Speaker 1: is what happens. I mean, I've been through all of

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Speaker 1: these things. Commissioners. It's the same off the owners, same stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, the players are showing more resolve. I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you how many times I've heard that through the

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Speaker 1: years of covering these things. Oh, the players are showing

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Speaker 1: more resolve. And then all of a sudden, you'll have

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Speaker 1: some of the players saying, hey, you know, let's get back.

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Speaker 1: I'm losing this amount of I know how these things

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Speaker 1: play out. Now. The one I didn't see it was

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four where we lost the World Series. That

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Speaker 1: one shocked me. But that's the extreme case. Hopefully, you know,

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Speaker 1: they come to some kind of common ground, but they

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Speaker 1: don't care about you. You know. I always like when

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Speaker 1: the owners are saying, oh, you know, these salaries are crazy.

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Speaker 1: Who's paying the salary? Who decided they wanted to give

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Speaker 1: Jim Carlos Stanton three hundred million dollars or Garrett call

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Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars. If you can give it, you

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Speaker 1: can afford it. The players are just saying, hey, this

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Speaker 1: these owners, like we never know, you know, how much

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Speaker 1: to go and watch them play. We don't get to

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Speaker 1: it seems to happen every couple of years in different sports.

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Speaker 1: you know, the rapid decline of viewership, and it used

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Speaker 1: It felt like the casual fan would give baseball a chance.

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Speaker 1: Now it just doesn't feel like that. In the NFL

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Speaker 1: is a twelvemonth, you know, a year sport, and we

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Speaker 1: have so many more options here. Back when I was

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Speaker 1: do faster. There's more things now, multitasking, no patience here,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's unfortunate because baseball and baseball had

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Speaker 1: its work stoppage. Then after that you had the Cal

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Speaker 1: Ripken breaking Lou Garrig's consecutive game streak, and you had

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Speaker 1: the home run race. Well you don't have that magic

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Speaker 1: dust you can sprinkle on the game, and that's sad

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Speaker 1: because you do have a lot of young, great talent

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Speaker 1: and being able to showcase that. You know, that's that's

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Speaker 1: what's lost here. Will they come back? Will the players

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Speaker 1: make their money. Yes, Will the owners make their money? Guess?

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Speaker 1: Will the fans come back? Yes, the diehards will. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a regional sport. It's a local sport. You

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Speaker 1: watch your team. Football, we watch every game, even the NBA.

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Speaker 1: You might watch more games that aren't in your local market.

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Speaker 1: You might go out of your way to watch John

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Speaker 1: Morant now or when Zion was playing, or Luca NFL.

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Speaker 1: NFL's watching everybody baseball. It used to be that you

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Speaker 1: cared about big game. It's not that way. Today's baseball

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Speaker 1: fan cares about his team, not necessarily everybody else. Somebody

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Speaker 1: gonna listen on radio, watch on TV. And they are

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Speaker 1: a healthy markets with baseball. It's just baseball is no

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Speaker 1: longer America's pastime. It's past time. That's the problem. All right, Seaton,

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Speaker 1: you got a pull question for me today? Sure, dude,

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Speaker 1: in alrighty, Major League Baseball starting the canceled games makes

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Speaker 1: me angry, makes me sad, has no effect to me.

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Speaker 1: Player don't play whatever. Can you guess who wrote that? Todd?

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Speaker 1: Yes it is, that's the Todd Fritz. Of course it

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Speaker 1: is gave me a lot of different options there, Todd,

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you, canceling games makes you feel what? It

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Speaker 1: makes me? Sad that it's come to this, that they

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Speaker 1: And I'm more sad than angry. Were you really planning

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Speaker 1: on watching games in April? I do watch games any

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Speaker 1: I don't start to finish. Maybe not, but you know,

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Speaker 1: at least opening day, and I think I start out

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Speaker 1: back to it maybe summertime and then the Pennant race.

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Speaker 1: What else do you have, Seaton? The cancelation of which

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Speaker 1: league's season would bother me the most? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you can't ask that question because it's the NFL as

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Speaker 1: a clear winner. Yes, right, yeah, Paulie. I like this

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Speaker 1: pole question because I want to see how overwhelming it is.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering if the other three sports could even

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Speaker 1: be higher than that? Wow that I almost want to

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Speaker 1: prove it? All right, give me a fifth boom pole question,

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Speaker 1: throw down, all right, let's go over under ninety three percent.

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Speaker 1: Pie of the face is the new one? I know

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Speaker 1: it is. That's how you settle something there. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I you know, people would be devastated if the NFL

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Speaker 1: was delayed, shut down hockey, no basketball, maybe, uh, baseball,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna find out. Yeah, it's just we find other

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Speaker 1: things to do. That's that's the thing. You just go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's not available, all right, I'll do something else. We

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Speaker 1: have that at our fingertips. Literally at our fingertips. You

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Speaker 1: can start streaming something like, all right, that's not there,

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Speaker 1: figure it out. It's like when football ended, there's no

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Speaker 1: other season where you go, season ended, What are we

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Speaker 1: gonna do? When the NBA ends, you don't go NBA's over.

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Speaker 1: What are we gonna do? Baseball over? What are we

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Speaker 1: would we appreciate these commissioners if they had more personality,

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Speaker 1: because sometimes they get up there and they tell us

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Speaker 1: didn't baseball hire cal Ripken Junior? Just to get up

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Speaker 1: there and go, man, we tried, like we're gonna believe

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Speaker 1: Cal Ripken Junior like going, yeah, okay, Cal said it

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Speaker 1: all right, all right, yeah we tried. All right, Well

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Speaker 1: us know when you're gonna bring a season, you know,

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Speaker 1: Rob Manford gets up there or like you may not

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Speaker 1: Gary Bettman brings the Stanley Cup on the ice, he

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a joyful celebration. It's like, everything's great,

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Speaker 1: you just won the Stanley Cup, and ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: The commissioner of the National Hockey League, Gary Bettman, Roger Goodell.

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Speaker 1: You know people dislike him just because he makes sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Yeah, so you're saying, bringing a

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Speaker 1: If the NFL had how he longed as a commissioner

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Speaker 1: who doesn't like how he long like Terry Bradshaw, Hery

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Speaker 1: Everyone likes Mario yea, but he works with the penguins. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so i'd have to have a neutral party. Mike Mark

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Speaker 1: Messier comes out all right, who's gonna mess with me? Right?

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Speaker 1: the day. Let me tell you, brother, we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: both starts back to the table. We're gonna get this

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Speaker 1: Oh man, this guy's gonna get it done. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: figure it out. I give you credit. You've been waiting

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Speaker 1: decades to do that impersonation. What are you gonna do? Brotherhere?

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Speaker 1: The lockout ends all over. You take the rest of

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Speaker 1: that I watched last night that you'll never her guests,

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Speaker 1: And I started watching this game and I couldn't stop. Now,

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Speaker 1: a lot of bad you know, you get some bad games.

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Speaker 1: Focuses on the broadcast crew and that in the defense

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Speaker 1: of the Steve Levies and the Grease He's, the Riddics, etc.

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Speaker 1: That is harder they've gotten. They have a harder task

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Speaker 1: and these other teams, and when they're compared, that's sometimes

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Speaker 1: kind of unfair. Romo changed all of this, didn't He yes? So,

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Speaker 1: And look from CBS's point of view, the reason they

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Speaker 1: people are probably listening, why would you give Tony Romo

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Speaker 1: ten years, one hundred and eighty million dollars. The reason

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Speaker 1: they did that is because the NFL broadcast deals were

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Speaker 1: all up CBS, NBC, ESPN turned down, Amazon got involved, Fox,

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Speaker 1: and so ESPN wanted to get Tony Romo with the

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Speaker 1: thought that that would help them get Super Bowls and

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Speaker 1: get these larger deals. Because if you look at what

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Speaker 1: the most important property in sports in television overall, eighty

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Speaker 1: five of the top one hundred shows are the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So the reason they did that they wanted Romo on

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Speaker 1: their side could they have gotten them cheaper if they've

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Speaker 1: you know, negotiated a little bit differently, probably, but it

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Speaker 1: didn't happen that way it worked out. I could go

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Speaker 1: through one hundred different things that worked out for Romo

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Speaker 1: and he ended up with that crazy contract ten years,

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Speaker 1: one hundred eighty million dollars. And then you have the

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Speaker 1: ripple effect. Of course, Acmen sees that, you know, he

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Speaker 1: was making um, around seven million, you know, in that

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Speaker 1: range at that point, um, and he's like, I'm the

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a better quarterback Hall of Famer and

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this for twenty years as a number one?

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Speaker 1: Why am I not paid that much? And now he is? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just, Um, do they really matter? I think when

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Speaker 1: I am I gonna stay? Am I going to tune

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Speaker 1: into a game because Tony Romo is doing it? Am

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Speaker 1: I going to tune in for Troy Aikman? Am I

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Speaker 1: tuning in? Frow Michaels are crazy? Like? How do these

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Speaker 1: networks evaluate this that this is worth it? You're going

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Speaker 1: to stay with me longer? I mean, how many of

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Speaker 1: those broadcasters do we really tune in because they're doing

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Speaker 1: the games? Andrew? You know, like what you do for

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Speaker 1: the audience. You're the attraction. So whatever you get paid,

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Speaker 1: you're listening to the Dan Patrick Show and the Dan

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Speaker 1: Nets and that's the show. And obviously you know, the money,

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Speaker 1: you know can be similar to what this money is. UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can tell what you make if you

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Speaker 1: want dan um the U. But the h when you

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Speaker 1: look at the games, uh yeah, these people do not

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Speaker 1: make the ratings change what they do do. Though there

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Speaker 1: is a star power to it, it does feel bigger UM,

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Speaker 1: and that's important. And the bigger thing is it's important

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Speaker 1: to the league. The league wants these boots to be

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Speaker 1: feel like number one boots. UM. But I will say this,

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Speaker 1: like before the Romost contract, they just mentioned why they

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Speaker 1: did it. I was told by NFL brand it doesn't

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Speaker 1: really matter to us. You know, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, they're gonna take what the highest bids are

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Speaker 1: UM for these contracts. And then in terms of watching

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Speaker 1: you don't like So when you look at Fox's decision

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Speaker 1: with like Kevin BARKRT and Greg Olsen, let's just say

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Speaker 1: Joe buck leaves, they just have to really feel confident

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Speaker 1: that comes Super Bowl Sunday next year, they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to do a good enough job that the focus

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Speaker 1: isn't on them. You know, it's great that they do

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Speaker 1: an amazing job and everyone they're awesome and they get

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Speaker 1: great reviews. But you can't you can't have it where

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Speaker 1: that the focus is for whatever reason, on your broadcast

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Speaker 1: booth instead of the game. That would be you know,

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Speaker 1: just pr wise, does it? Does it go dollars and cents?

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Speaker 1: Does it matter? No? I mean the Monday the football

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Speaker 1: ratings were up last year. Uh so do they really

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Speaker 1: need Troy Aikman to make them go even higher? No?

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Speaker 1: But they want that marquee. And especially when you're still

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Speaker 1: negotiating maybe for Sunday ticket with the NFL. Uh, Amazon's

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Speaker 1: about to make their booth. Uh it didn't happen, of course,

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Speaker 1: you know al Michael still might happen, but Alan Troy. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then you come in and you say, no, we'll

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Speaker 1: get Troy, and not only that, we're into Joe Buck.

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Speaker 1: Maybe then that does that could that does probably help

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Speaker 1: you a little bit. Who is the sports media MVP? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look what you like. I'm not like kissing buddy,

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Speaker 1: you're our national uh DV. But I think what you

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Speaker 1: McAfee Colin Coward, Chris Russo, Steven Annie, skip baylists. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying you're the MVP, but in terms of value, right,

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Speaker 1: you're doing an entertainment value. The talk show host or

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Speaker 1: the big time podcast, that big cat and uh pmt

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Speaker 1: pft com commenter, um, that type of person. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's the show. So you could argue that again, I

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Speaker 1: guess who's worth the most. Those people are probably worth

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Speaker 1: the most because there's no Dan Patrick's show without Dan Patrick.

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Speaker 1: There is a game without um without the game, So

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Speaker 1: I guess. So, I mean, look, if you you asked

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Speaker 1: me if this is guy, right, i'd say McAfee right now,

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Speaker 1: right like he is the one who is not you

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Speaker 1: know you you did this kind of you left m

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Speaker 1: ESPN and started your own thing. But now McAfee's doing

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Speaker 1: it where just YouTube so just the pipes. Um, he's

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Speaker 1: on serious XM but he um but so so he's

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Speaker 1: trading his own. Everyone else kind of has an attachment,

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Speaker 1: like even Steven Am he's very important to ESPN. But

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Speaker 1: stephen A leaves tomorrow. ESPN. I don't know, do they

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Speaker 1: make less money. Maybe let me first take makes some

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Speaker 1: money and stephen A is important and can you replace

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Speaker 1: steven A. You probably can replace steven A, but with who?

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Speaker 1: And how confident are you that you're going to get

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Speaker 1: the same ratings and make as much money with that show?

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Speaker 1: So I would say the talk show host type is

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Speaker 1: the opinionator is. Opinionists are the ones who probably the

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Speaker 1: most valuable. Thank you, Andrew, We'll be watching, we'll be reading. Great.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man. Well, that's Andrew Marshawn. He's the New York

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Speaker 1: Post senior sports media columnist, also co host of Marshawn

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Speaker 1: or Rand, the sports media podcast. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us

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Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to

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Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us

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Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. Hey, I'm Doug Gottlie. The

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Speaker 1: podcast is called All Ball. We usually talk all basketball

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Speaker 1: all the time, but it's more about the stories about

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Speaker 1: what made these people love their sport and all the

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Speaker 1: interesting interactions along the way. We talked to coaches, we

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Speaker 1: talked to players, We tell you stories. You download it,

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Speaker 1: to All Ball with Doug Gotlieb on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or ever you get your podcast. We always

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Speaker 1: love talking to Albert Breer. He makes a smarter senior

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Speaker 1: NFL reporter For the Monday Morning Quarterback, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: present the team, you present the biggest issue and how

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Speaker 1: will it be solved. Let's start with the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. The biggest issue I think right now

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Speaker 1: would be the relationship between the quarterback and the team.

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Speaker 1: And I know that's, you know, kind of a like

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Speaker 1: I guess an obvious thing now, but I do think

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Speaker 1: it's a unique situation. Dan, you know, I I think

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Speaker 1: in a certain ways what we're gonna see with every

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Speaker 1: quarterback right. In one way, it's after three years. In

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Speaker 1: the current system, the way it's set up, you draft

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round. That decision comes after

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Speaker 1: the third year. And you look at most of the

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Speaker 1: guys who got big second deals from their teams after

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Speaker 1: being drafted in the first round. Carson Wentz, Jared golf

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Speaker 1: To Shaan Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, those guys all

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Speaker 1: got deals after three years. So that in that way,

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Speaker 1: this is like a lot of these situations. But because

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Speaker 1: Kyler is so tied to Cliff, and because things ended

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Speaker 1: in such an uncomfortable way, and because even though they

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Speaker 1: just signed extensions to the GM and the coach Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury and Steve Time, there's still like unease within that organization.

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Speaker 1: You can understand where if Kyler puts two and two together,

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Speaker 1: he might say, I'm very specifically here because of Cliffs.

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Speaker 1: They're kicking the can down the road on my extension.

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Speaker 1: And if we don't get something done this year, and

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Speaker 1: for one reason or another, Cliff's not here in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, well then it's two hundred, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty million dollars going out the door. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's an interesting spot to be in. And

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Speaker 1: it feels to me like, you know, Kyler's very much

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Speaker 1: holding the cardinal's feet to the fire here, and it's

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Speaker 1: coming at a time when there are questions on his

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Speaker 1: leadership in the building. And so if this means he's

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Speaker 1: missing April and May and June in that place, the

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Speaker 1: problem kind of compounds on itself. If he can find

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Speaker 1: kind of follow that, yeah, I think that's interesting. So

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Speaker 1: he wants to get jump started in case something happens

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Speaker 1: to Cliff Kingsbury, then he's still getting that that contract

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Speaker 1: that he wants. Is that what you're saying? Well, and

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Speaker 1: think about it this way too. His college teammate was

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield was wayed what was asked to

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Speaker 1: wait a year ago? Is that extension coming from Baker now?

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Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean? Like so I think

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Speaker 1: in a lot of cames a lot of times like players,

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Speaker 1: and they shouldn't be they shouldn't trust teams. But why

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Speaker 1: doesn't Kyler Murray bet on himself like Dak Prescott did well,

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Speaker 1: because I mean Baker Mayfield bet on himself And howd

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Speaker 1: that turn out? You know what I mean? And I

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Speaker 1: think because the price point's gone up to a certain

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Speaker 1: level again, like you know, these become more difficult decisions

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Speaker 1: for a teams. And the Cardinals, by the way, haven't

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Speaker 1: said they're not going to do a deal for him now.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals just said, why don't we wait until the summer,

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Speaker 1: Like let's see if we get something done in the summer.

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Speaker 1: The problem I think Kyler sees here and this is

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Speaker 1: just kind of me putting one piece together with another.

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Speaker 1: The problem I think Kyler sees here is okay. So

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Speaker 1: if I report to the training camp in July and

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Speaker 1: contract talks go nowhere, well, where does that leave me?

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Speaker 1: Then I got to get ready for the season. At

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Speaker 1: that point, my leverage is gone. So if I don't

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Speaker 1: push the envelope now, I wait till the summer and

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Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of training camp, It's very hard

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Speaker 1: for me to kind of push the issue while I'm

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Speaker 1: getting ready to play the season. It's much easier to

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Speaker 1: push the issue in February March. The Green Bay situation's

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Speaker 1: always interesting, But Brian gudocounts the GM was asked have

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Speaker 1: you heard from any teams about trade offers? And he

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Speaker 1: answered it by saying, no, haven't heard from anybody. That

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Speaker 1: means you're open for business, Albert. Instead of saying we're

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Speaker 1: not trading Aaron, we want him to be here, we

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Speaker 1: expect him to be here. Now you're saying no, I

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Speaker 1: haven't heard from anybody. But if you know anybody who's

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Speaker 1: interested in getting a quarterback coming off an MVP season,

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Speaker 1: let us know. I think Brian Goodkins is being very

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Speaker 1: careful with his words right now, because if he says

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Speaker 1: we're not trading Aaron Rosh What does that say to

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Speaker 1: Aaron that says we control the situation, You don't. And

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Speaker 1: Aaron doesn't want to see that. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Packers want to have to navigate another awkward offseason

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Speaker 1: the way they did last year. So I think the

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Speaker 1: priority is getting Aaron back on the team. And if

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Speaker 1: you're telling Aaron we are in control and we will

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Speaker 1: listen to offers and then we will make a decision, well,

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Speaker 1: that takes the control out of Aaron's hands. And so

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Speaker 1: I think they feel like they're in a really good

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00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: place now, Dan, like the best place they've been in

633
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: a while with Aaron, and effectively, and I think I've

634
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: said this to you before, like personally, for a personal standpoint,

635
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: I think the issue is largely fixed. Like there was

636
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: never an issue between Aaron Rodgers and Matt Lafloor, and

637
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: the issue between Aaron Rodgers and Brian goodacoust, and the

638
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: issue between Aaron Rodgers and Mark Murphy for the most

639
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: part isn't there anymore. But you think that so there's

640
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: there hasn't truly been in are you trying to tell

641
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: me Denver has not at least inquired about it. I

642
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: don't know if I believe that. That's I don't know

643
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: if I believed that. I think the easy thing to

644
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: say is, no, we haven't gotten any calls, but you

645
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it, right, Like I like,

646
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: I'd imagine someone has inquired, because when you talk to

647
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: teams here in Indianapolis, right and you know how this goes,

648
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: Like all these teams are meeting in the hallways and

649
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: they're meeting with the agents and all that different stuff's

650
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: happening here. Like when you ask anybody about the quarterback market,

651
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 1: what potentially could happen with Russell Wilson, what's gonna happen

652
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: with Sean Wattson, what's gonna happen with Jim Garoppolo. Everybody's

653
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: response is, well, you gotta wait for the Aaron Rodgerstown

654
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: to fall. And I think the likelihood is that he

655
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: stay as a packer. But how do you figure out

656
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: when that domino is gonna fall, how it's gonna fall.

657
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: If you're Denver, a team like Denver, Carolina, Washington, what

658
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: you do is you call the package you know, and

659
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: you're ass and I think, right now and look good

660
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: to be playing with semantics here a little bit, you know,

661
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: because if like somebody calls him and says, well, are

662
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: you guys ready to talking about Aaron Rodgers? No, we aren't.

663
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: Is that really a trade call? You know? I just

664
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: think he wants to avoid the drama in general. Like

665
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: I think, if you like the answer to both of

666
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: your questions, I think the priority right now for for

667
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: green Bay is to avoid stepping over themselves. Is a

668
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: delicate situation. They want Rogers back. I think deep down

669
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: they believe he's going to be back. That probably has

670
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 1: to negotiate a new contract for him. And right now

671
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: it's like it feels to me at least like they're

672
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: in don't screw it up mode? Do you want to

673
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: get in on the Tom Brady Mike Florio bet that

674
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: we have going on here? What is it? Okay, Paul

675
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: bet Mike Florio. Florio says that Tom Brady will be

676
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: the starter in San Francisco Week one week one? Okay? Yes,

677
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: And it's a pie to the face. So if it

678
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, Florio gets a pie to the face. If

679
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: it does happen, then Polly takes a pie to the face.

680
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: Which side you on? I don't think Brady. This is

681
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: gonna sounds like such a cop out. I don't think Brady,

682
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, is the answer to that question. Like, I

683
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: think that's why he left the door open, and that's

684
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: why he handled his retirement the way he did. And

685
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: this is a guy Dan who has been i'd say,

686
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: like actively afraid of the idea of retirement. He hadn't

687
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: know what he's gonna do with himself. He doesn't now

688
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna channel of competitiveness like, this is a guy

689
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: who I think for the last I don't know, the

690
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: last ten years, like whenever this first one on his radar.

691
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: You're not answering the question, Albert, I know, I don't.

692
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: I personally I think there's a better chance than not

693
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: we see him play at some point again, do I know?

694
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Do I think it's Week one? Maybe not, but I

695
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: think we I think, like I don't think he left.

696
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: I think he left football. I think the reason he

697
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: left football was because maybe he wasn't wild about his

698
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: particular situation. The family stuff plays into it too. Um,

699
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, if the Niners come along,

700
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: and because here's the here's the key thing is if

701
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: you're asking him right now to buckle down and play.

702
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: You're asking for a twelve months commitment. If the Niners

703
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,959
Speaker 1: come to him in August or September and maybe Trey

704
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: Lance hasn't developed the way that they had hoped, right then,

705
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: what are they asking for? They're asking for like four

706
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: or five months. How different is that? It's a totally

707
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: different thing, right, So I think it's something that's on

708
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Sheanahan's radar. I think it's something that's on Tom

709
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: Brady's radar. Like I'm with Floria that I think it's

710
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: a possibility. Do I think it's a certainty when I

711
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: take a pie to the face for happening, I don't

712
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: know if I go that far. Okay, Yeah, that's our

713
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: litmus test of you know, how much you firmly believe

714
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: in a story, which I will. Yeah, yeah, you know.

715
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm watching Chris Ballard the Colts GM saying that they

716
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: don't really know what they're doing at the quarterbacking position.

717
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: It's been seven weeks since they lost at Jacksonville, Like,

718
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: what the hell have you been doing? How long does

719
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: it take to figure this out? Where you go, do

720
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: we want him or do we not want him? And

721
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: then what happened? So what do you think the Colts

722
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: will do? The operative question here is then what. I

723
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: don't think this is a yes or no. I think

724
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: this is a what's available to us question? And I

725
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers coming up the works to some degree

726
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: and carrying his decision into March, I think has sort

727
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: of made it more difficult for teams like Indianapolis, like Carolina,

728
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: like Washington, like Denver to really gain clarity on their

729
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: quarterback options. And you know, like in Denver and Washington, Caroline,

730
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: we know those teams are going after quarterbacks. I think

731
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: with Indianapolis there's way more gray area. To get rid

732
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: of Carson Wentz, they'd have to eat fifteen million dollars.

733
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: And you're so you're talking about like the investment or

734
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: a new quarterback, they will do whatever costs to bringing

735
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: that guy, plus the fifteen million dollars that's sunk costs

736
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Speaker 1: to get rid of Carson Wentz. And I think that

737
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: for that reason, like whoever they're looking at has to

738
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: rise to a certain level for them to pull a

739
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: trigger on it. So do I think they're out on

740
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz? And they're probably out on Carson Wentz. Could

741
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: I see him back as like, you know, almost like

742
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: a de facto stop gap year because they don't have

743
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: a better option this year. Yeah, I could see that.

744
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: I think this is going to come down to not

745
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: just Carson Wentz, but they're options outside of Carson Wentz,

746
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: and I think that's why they're sort of leaking a

747
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: light on form. Denk has surgery minor surgery. They always said,

748
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: when it's not on you, it's when you have surgery.

749
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: You know, I never viewed all of my surgeries, and

750
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: they when that's minor knee surgery, it's still surgery, but

751
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: it's on his non throwing shoulder. Is this bigger issue?

752
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: Feels like it's being made a bigger issue because the

753
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: media loves covering the Cowboys. Yeah. I think I think

754
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: it'll be all right. Like I do think you worry

755
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: a little bit about the accumulation of injuries with Dak

756
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: to some degree because he has been nicked up a lot.

757
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: And you know, I think for quarterbacks that are deployed

758
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: the way he was deployed early in his career, where

759
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: they did run him, and they ran him by design

760
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: a bunch, I think that's something that you have to

761
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: kind of keep on your radar. So am I worried

762
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: about this specific injury, not so much. Would I be

763
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: a little concerned about the accumulation of injuries? And if

764
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: I was the Cowboys, was I would I be sort

765
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: of trying now he's close to thirty years old. Would

766
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: I be trying now, like look at him and say,

767
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: we need to get you to do a better job

768
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: protecting yourself. We need to do a better job protecting

769
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: you in the way we call games. We need you

770
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: to We would like you to evolve into a guy who's,

771
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, gonna play a game that's going to be

772
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: more sustainable from an injury standpoint, I think all those

773
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: things are on the table. So I'm not worried as

774
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 1: much about this specific injury, but the accumulation of interest,

775
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: I think is somebody that the Cowboys have to have

776
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: on the radar. He's Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, Lead

777
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: Content Strategists the Monday morning quarterback new interview rules at

778
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: the combine there in Indianapolis. Have you heard about what

779
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: they're asking teams to do or not do? The language,

780
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: the tone of the questions, Yeah, you know, And I

781
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: guess it's a modernization of it, you know what I mean.

782
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: Like I think it's like there's things that were accepted

783
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: me because at the root of these interviews, you know,

784
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: and these are the most the second most important things.

785
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: Like everybody makes a big deal out of the workouts.

786
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: The two biggest things here to teams are number one

787
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: of the medical number two the interviews. And these guys

788
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: are coached so such a level on how to answer

789
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: questions and how to act in these interviews that you know,

790
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: it's almost like fraternity hazing, you know what I mean.

791
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: Like it's like like forever, the way that they handled

792
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: that was we got to break the guy down, we

793
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: got to make them uncomfortable because then he's going to

794
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: reveal to us who he really is. And I mean,

795
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: I grew up, you know. I think we all grew

796
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: up with that sort of like coaching teaching, like like

797
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: a lot of us did. Like people of this generation,

798
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: of this generation, the age of the guys, the age

799
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: that are coming into the NFL right now, I don't

800
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: think grew up with that. So I think there's like

801
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: a modernization going on. No course, lawyers are involved with

802
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: this stuff too, and you know that. But yeah. I mean,

803
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: there's a modernization going on in the way they handle

804
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: these situations, and it does feel like I mean, and

805
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: I think maybe this is like a little bit like

806
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: post COVID stuff, But you know, I think as they

807
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: take the combine, potentially move it, and you see teams

808
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: sending less people here, you know, you see guys certain

809
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: guys at the top of the draft now maybe reverting

810
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: back to saying, you know it, I'll just wait till

811
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: my pro day. It feels to me like this week

812
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, there's been sort of a reshaping of the

813
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: way the combines run and the way certain elements the

814
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: combine are run. So it finitely feels like a lot

815
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: of things are in flux in the interview process is

816
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: part of that. Great to talk to you and have

817
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: fun there at the combine. Thank you, Bud. Thanks for

818
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: putting up with my hostage cam too. I appreciate it. Yah.

819
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: Here's saves another one over under first quarterback taken thirteen

820
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: and a half picks over ooh, okay, Pauli's got a

821
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: bet pie to the face and he says he's gonna

822
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: look a quarterback will be taken on the first thirteen picks.

823
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: Let's do part of the face on that. Okay, so

824
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: you gotta pie the face. Bet with Floria. I'll do

825
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: pie of the face, all right. Yeah, I had Albert

826
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. I have not had one. I'm polly. I

827
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: have not had a single team tell me that any

828
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks would be in the top five quarterbacks

829
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: last year. I had another team tell me that the

830
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: number one guy that they have, but then the top

831
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: rated quarterback in this year's class for them, Haws. They

832
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: would have the seventh best grade among quarterbacks last year,

833
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: behind the five that won in the first round of

834
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: Davis Mills. This is a really shaky year a quarterback. Okay,

835
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: pie to the face. So Breer's got the over, Paul,

836
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: he's got the under yempo. This is not really fair.

837
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: Albert's a guy with lots of information and thought, and

838
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: he really you'll talk to him. Nobody talks. Yeah, we

839
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: usually don't do research on this show, thank you, pas. Yes, absolutely,

840
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: that's Albert Brier, the lead content strategist for the Monday

841
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: Morning Quarterback. Yeah. You look at some of these questions

842
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: that were asked to the draft prospects over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years you, of course, had the Jeff Ireland

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Speaker 1: and the Dolphins apologizing to Dez Bryant they asked during

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Speaker 1: a pre draft visit whether his mom was a prostitute.

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Speaker 1: The former Falcons head coach Dan Quinn apologized to Eli

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Speaker 1: Apple because one of his coaches asked the cornerback his

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Speaker 1: sexual preference. Former LSU quarterback Darius Geiss at the combine

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Speaker 1: he was asked about his sexuality and if his mother

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Speaker 1: was a prostitute. The former tight end Benjamin Watson, who

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Speaker 1: played sixteen years in the NFL, said that it felt

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Speaker 1: like he was being interrogated. You sit there in a

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Speaker 1: dark room, a huge spotlight, and you're being interrogated for

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Speaker 1: a crime, and the front office is in the back

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Speaker 1: of the shadows. You can't see them. The guy grabbed

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Speaker 1: my wrist and he's like, I can feel your pulse,

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Speaker 1: so I know if you're lying to me. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever smoked marijuana? I said no, and I really hadn't.

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Speaker 1: I never smoked. He said, I think you're lying. I

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Speaker 1: can feel your pulse. Are you lying to us? And

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Speaker 1: I said no, I'm not. I did that to Seton

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Speaker 1: when I hired him. I put him in a room

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Speaker 1: and he was actually smoking weed during the interview, so

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Speaker 1: that was the tricky part and said no