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Speaker 3: dot com. Now to Rory's point about all of the

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Speaker 3: global impact that this crisis has already created, let's go

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Speaker 3: ahead and start. We've collated a bunch of very ominous

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Speaker 3: comments from heads of state, from leaders all across Europe.

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Speaker 3: Here's the Italy's Defense minister. He says, I am forced

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Speaker 3: to know things about what could happen in the coming

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Speaker 3: week and the effects it will have on the economy

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Speaker 3: in our daily lives that no longer allow me to sleep.

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Speaker 3: You may easily pair that, let's say, with this warning

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Speaker 3: that came out D six, guys, if we could just

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Speaker 3: go and put that one up here next is almost

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Speaker 3: certainly this was an illusion. The Energy chief of the

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Speaker 3: European Union, Dan Jorgensen, sent a letter a confidential letter

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Speaker 3: to member energy ministers where he said national governments should

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Speaker 3: consider I love this phrasing. Voluntary demand saving measures with

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Speaker 3: particular attention to the transport sector aka travel restrictions could

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Speaker 3: be coming to EU citizens very quickly, as in, nope,

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Speaker 3: you're not driving car anymore. You are banned from let's say,

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Speaker 3: either train travel or who knows right. In terms of

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Speaker 3: the actual restrictions that could be put into place far

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Speaker 3: and away, maybe crisis for the European Union already it's

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Speaker 3: a crisis in terms of their natural gas prices, their

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Speaker 3: overall energy consumptions. If you think I'm exaggerating, let's look

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Speaker 3: at a country where this is all playing out right now.

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Speaker 3: Let's put D two up there on the screen. South Korea.

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Speaker 3: Their president today. I'm sorry, yesterday he said the world

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Speaker 3: is in turmoil over the energy crisis. The situation is

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Speaker 3: so serious it has even kept me up at night.

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Speaker 3: The immediate problem is grave enough, but the outlook ahead

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Speaker 3: seems even more unstable. The situation is worse than expected.

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Speaker 3: That came at the exact same time. D five guys

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Speaker 3: that South Korea is now having to weigh the first

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Speaker 3: driving curbs in thirty five years since the Gulf War

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Speaker 3: of nineteen ninety one. So what they are currently floating

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Speaker 3: is basically what happened here in the oil crisis in

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Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies, where depending on your license plate, you

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Speaker 3: get to drive that day, odd number, day you get

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Speaker 3: was shocked by this policy is already in place for

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Speaker 3: civil servants, So every government employee in South Korea is

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Speaker 3: already on a driving curb restriction. They're already voluntarily instituting

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Speaker 3: all of these energies, say policies I told everyone yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They're telling the citizens.

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Speaker 3: Don't shower, you know, or take a shorter shower to

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Speaker 3: save heating costs. I mean that's a crisis. I mean

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Speaker 3: the vast majority of their oil comes from the natural

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Speaker 3: comes from the straits of Horn moves their natural gas.

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Speaker 3: This is a g I mean, a top economy in

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Speaker 3: just They're down twenty percent since the start of this crisis.

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Speaker 3: This is a disaster for South Korea. And then think

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Speaker 3: of Italy. You think there's any mystery why the Italians

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Speaker 3: were like, all right, we're done, no more flights over

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Speaker 3: our airspace. This is why, I mean, we have precipitated

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Speaker 3: a real crunch in these countries. And these are just

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Speaker 3: two that I've listed, you know, before I move on Crystal.

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Speaker 1: But it is really bad.

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Speaker 2: Well, and these are you know, wealthy countries. They're already

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Speaker 2: suffering and struggling. You can only imagine in the developing

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Speaker 2: mean that is part of what is kind of sick

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Speaker 2: that is very real. We're going to be a lot

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Speaker 2: in the world create this total global economic catastrophe and

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Speaker 2: then we're relatively relatively unscathed compared to the rest of

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Speaker 2: it's it is kind of sick. I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 2: reflected in Trump with his like, oh, we don't even

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Speaker 2: rely that much on this, you guys, go get your oil, Like.

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Speaker 4: We created this disaster, created.

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Speaker 2: This new reality with the straight of hormboos. No problems

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Speaker 2: started doing our thing. And they're like, all right, rest

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Speaker 2: figure it out.

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Speaker 1: In good luck here to your point.

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Speaker 3: Literally while you were talking, flashed from the AFP, Indonesia

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Speaker 3: announces fuel rationing, order civil servants to work from home

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Speaker 3: Eastern War, Right, I mean, you got full blown rationing

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Speaker 3: now in the developed world. Let's continue on down the line.

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Speaker 3: For example, let's put D four up there on the screen.

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Speaker 3: This will be no surprise considering what Trump has been.

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Speaker 3: True thing about the UK just got its last tanker

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Speaker 3: of jet fuel from the Middle East this week. So

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Speaker 3: now what they are floating, this is unthinkable. They are

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Speaker 3: imagine we're to London heat throw, probably one of the

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Speaker 1: They'll probably be fine, but I don't know what. It's

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Speaker 3: What's the other one, Gatwick or whatever, like all these

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Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, we're just we don't have any jet fuel.

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Speaker 1: You can't you can't get right fuel here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the end of global commerce, of global travel

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Speaker 3: if you have no jet fuel. They're saying that the

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Speaker 3: European will have to now seek additional jet fuel supplies

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Speaker 3: from refineries in West Africa and the United States. However,

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Speaker 3: they will take weeks to get there. Even in the

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Speaker 3: there will still be a dramatic increase in the overall price. Now,

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Speaker 3: connecting it to what Rory just talked about, if you

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Speaker 3: a finite, relatively amount of supply. So that just means

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Speaker 3: You could have one in Mexico, in Guatemala or anywhere

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Speaker 3: in Latin America. So somewhere somebody's going to get shafted.

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Speaker 3: Let's continue down the line, Shell and.

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Speaker 2: The era of you know, plane tickets and jet travel

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Speaker 2: being like relatively affordable for middle class people that are

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Speaker 4: For some time.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I told you, yeah, yeah, And I mean

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Speaker 2: it does just fit with the sense of, you know,

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Speaker 2: things that we sort of took for granted quality of

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Speaker 2: see that already with like how freaking expensive steak is

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Speaker 2: same thing with air travel, where it just becomes you know,

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Speaker 1: It ultra luxury good.

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Speaker 3: So I look, like I said, I was thinking about

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Speaker 3: going to India, and so I look at the prices.

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Speaker 1: The only cheap way is to go through.

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Speaker 3: in a plane. So okay, so what's it going to

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Speaker 3: cost otherwise? Literally two over two thousand, five hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: I mean that's insanity. That's like in my high head,

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Speaker 1: it should be like twelve hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'm extremely naive, but like, I mean, five

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Speaker 3: to fly to India. Who speaking of India, let's put

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Speaker 3: D seven up there on the screen. They're just I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're having a currency crisis. The Indian ruppee plunged ten

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Speaker 3: because this is a big Asian problem. So what's happening

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Speaker 1: Also, you have the Indian rupee.

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Speaker 3: What they're currently doing is to afford the high dollar

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Speaker 3: This also has major impact for US treasuries, for gold

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Speaker 3: you know, underscore what you said. Africa is already in

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Speaker 3: India is right on the fence. They've got enough money,

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Speaker 3: but they're really going to have to struggle. Bangladesh they're dead,

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Speaker 1: They still have some poverty. They're really going to struggle.

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Speaker 3: Sri Lanka already having you know, shortages in then outright

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Speaker 3: here in the West, we have, i mean a literal

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Speaker 3: probably the most inflationary environment since the nineteen seventies, or

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Speaker 1: It's a nightmare.

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Speaker 4: Kiss your rate cuts, goodbye, rate cuts, your war.

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Speaker 1: We crease the least of our problems.

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Speaker 3: We're actually talking about, like genuine demand destruction, quality of

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Speaker 3: So look, I mean we could be wrong, Like with

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Speaker 3: the taco we could just settle around three point fifty

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Speaker 2: the society is completely divided here. We also wanted to

435
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Speaker 2: get to this incident that unfolded with CNN's Jeremy Diamond

436
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Speaker 2: and his team on the ground, so his photojournalist was

437
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Speaker 2: actually assaulted by IDF soldiers and then he was Jeremy

438
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: was able to speak to these IDF soldiers and ask

439
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Speaker 2: them basically like what are you doing? And their responses

440
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Speaker 2: were incredibly, incredibly revealing about the way that the settlement

441
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Speaker 2: movement works and the way that they are supported by

442
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Speaker 2: the IDF and by the state, and the way this

443
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Speaker 2: whole thing is designed. Let's go ahead and take a list,

444
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Speaker 2: and this is a six to that.

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Speaker 5: Producer Abir Selman identifies us as journalists translating the soldier's commands.

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Speaker 4: Down.

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Speaker 6: So the soldiers just immediately came up and started pointing

448
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Speaker 6: the roAP wins directly at us, telling everyone to sit

449
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Speaker 6: down immediately. Obviously we're not posing any threat here.

450
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Speaker 5: The commander comes straight for our camera and within seconds

451
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Speaker 5: who a soldier has just put photojournalist Cyril Theophilis in

452
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Speaker 5: a choke hold, forcing.

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Speaker 1: Him to the ground.

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Speaker 5: I don't like that, don't touch him that. The soldier

455
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Speaker 5: who assaulted Theophilis continues to demand he turn off his

456
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Speaker 5: camera before another smacks my phone.

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Speaker 6: So as you can see what we have seen happen

458
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Speaker 6: in the last twenty four hours is that settlers came

459
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Speaker 6: to this area. They settled that hilltop, and now you

460
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Speaker 6: have a lot of soldiers coming to this area with

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Speaker 6: the Palestinians in this area. They're on top of the

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Speaker 6: home of Imad, the man that we were just speaking to,

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Speaker 6: and we're seeing the soldiers treat the Palestinians in the

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Speaker 6: area as the threat, when really what started this problem

465
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Speaker 6: was obviously the settlers who came in the middle of

466
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Speaker 6: the night and took over land.

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Speaker 5: That's not theirs. The Palestinians here are detained and questioned.

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Speaker 5: Soldiers detain us too and walk us back to our vehicle.

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Speaker 5: They say they're trying to establish order between settlers and Palestinians.

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Speaker 2: So then let's put the next piece up on the screen,

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Speaker 2: and this is a vo I'll read you what happens here.

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Speaker 2: This is an exchange between Jeremy and one of the.

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Speaker 4: Soldiers who is you know.

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Speaker 2: So they're having this interaction and Jeremy says they don't

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Speaker 2: have permission to be here, even under Israeli law. He's

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Speaker 2: talking about the illegal settler outpost. He says, even under

477
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Speaker 2: his really law, this is not a legal settlement. This

478
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Speaker 2: is one of these outposts that they strike up. The

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Speaker 2: soldier says, but it will be a legal settlement. It

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Speaker 2: will be Jeremy says, how do you know this slowly,

481
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Speaker 2: slowly thanks to your help, right, Jeremy says, of course,

482
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Speaker 2: I help my people, says this IDF soldier. He goes

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Speaker 2: on to talk about how the reason that they're doing

484
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Speaker 2: what they're doing and helping these settlers is because of

485
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Speaker 2: quote unquote revenge, because of one of the settlers who

486
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Speaker 2: was killed in some sort of a car incident. That

487
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Speaker 2: details are very murky, but in any case, they explicitly

488
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Speaker 2: say that they are doing what they're doing because they

489
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Speaker 2: are seeking revenge. And you know, this is something that

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Speaker 2: Jasper Nathaniel has talked to us about.

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Speaker 4: So you have these sort of.

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Speaker 2: Designated quote unquote by Israeli law legal settlements. They're illegal

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Speaker 2: under international law, but Israeli law says these, you know, settlements, Okay,

494
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Speaker 2: these are officially sanctioned. And then what settlers will do

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Speaker 2: is they'll create these outposts. They'll just go in and

496
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Speaker 2: steal Palestinian land and set up a tent, you know,

497
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Speaker 2: put a car there, and then gradually those outposts which

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Speaker 2: are illegal again, even under Israeli law, let alone under

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Speaker 2: an international law. Those settlements will grow and then eventually

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Speaker 2: the state will come in and say, Okay, it's legal now.

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Speaker 2: And so that's what the soldier is talking about there.

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Speaker 2: He says, well, it's illegal now, but it's going to

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Speaker 2: be legal in the future, and Jeremy says, oh, your

504
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Speaker 2: helping is like, yeah, of course I help my people.

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Speaker 4: And it just shows you exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 3: What's really crazy about this is that for I don't

507
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Speaker 3: really know why, I don't pretend to understand, like the

508
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Speaker 3: Zionist community in the US, but every once in a

509
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Speaker 3: while they just like pay attention. And so you know

510
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Speaker 3: that pogram that we covered a few weeks ago, for

511
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Speaker 3: some reason, they were all like, wow, Phoebe really needs

512
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Speaker 3: to do something about this. With this one, though, it's

513
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Speaker 3: pretty clear they just messed up. They messed with the

514
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Speaker 3: wrong journalists they happened to mess with, Yeah, from CNN.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: By the way, does anybody remember they just murdered those

517
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Speaker 3: two guys in Lebanon and they photoshopped his body onto

518
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Speaker 3: a Hesbola military uniform.

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Speaker 1: They even admitted it. They're like, yeah, we photoshopped it right. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean these people, they don't care whatsoever. It's basically

521
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Speaker 3: in their training, in their idea of response. They're like,

522
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Speaker 3: we have instituted, we've called back what the entire reservist brigade,

523
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Speaker 3: and we are going to retrain them. Yeah, and you're like, well,

524
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Speaker 3: this behavior has been happening this whole time. The same

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Speaker 3: brigade is responsible. Didn't they kill a citizen of a

526
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Speaker 3: US citizen. I believe they're responsible at least in some way,

527
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Speaker 3: not to mention, you know, for all of their behavior.

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Speaker 3: This is part and parcel I think for what they are.

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Speaker 3: It also I think demonstrates the serious problems for the IDF,

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Speaker 3: which the IDF chief even warned about. They're stretched to

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Speaker 3: the brink. They've got these like reservist nineteen year olds.

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Speaker 3: You know, five of them got killed yesterday in Lebanon.

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Speaker 3: So that's a real disaster I think for society which

534
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Speaker 3: is not very big. And then they're stretched all across

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Speaker 3: the brink, and then you've probably just got the same

536
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Speaker 3: phenomenon of you know, putting people in various different places.

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Speaker 3: No oversight this same culture or even encourage this with Gaza.

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Speaker 3: This is what it creates.

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Speaker 2: So this particular battalion is called the Netsa Yehuda ninety

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Speaker 2: seventh Battalion, and it's an ultra Orthodox Israelly military unit

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Speaker 2: and has come under scrutiny before. In fact, the Biden

542
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Speaker 2: administration considered sanctioning them because they, you know, have done

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Speaker 2: all sorts of wild things in the past as well.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to make it sound like they're out

545
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Speaker 2: of line with official government policy. They're not, but they

546
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Speaker 2: are a bit of an outlier in terms of their

547
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Speaker 2: aggressive tactics and I guess how brazen they are about it.

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Speaker 2: And so this is, you know, this ultra Orthodox unit

549
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Speaker 2: that's set up to basically you know, comes from a

550
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 2: bunch of the settlers and set up because you know,

551
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Speaker 2: they have religious restrictions on men and women serving together,

552
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Speaker 2: et cetera. So that's what this particular battalion is. And

553
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Speaker 2: worth noting that the Biden administration considered sanctioning them but didn't,

554
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Speaker 2: and apparently Tony Blinken himself intervened and convinced them like, no, no,

555
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Speaker 2: the Israelis will handle it. They're on in most moral

556
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Speaker 2: army in the universe, you know. Blah blah blah, and

557
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: so now they're doing this pr thing of pulling them

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Speaker 2: from the field and sending them from quote for quote

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Speaker 2: unquote retraining. As you said, I mean, it reminds a

560
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: little bit of like, you know, the ice like rampaging.

561
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Speaker 2: Like the training was really not the issue. The problem

562
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: was the mission that they were set on, the pot problems,

563
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Speaker 2: what leadership wanted them to do. That's the problem here

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Speaker 2: as well, where it's not just this battalion, it's the

565
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Speaker 2: IDF in general, is there by and large to protect

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Speaker 2: settlers and help push forward the settlement movement. And they

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Speaker 2: understand that to be the mission. They understand that to

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Speaker 2: be what they're doing. They are a force for the

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Speaker 2: Israeli government's project of continually expanding settlements and stealing Palestinian land.

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Speaker 2: So Jeremy, actually, to his credit, who I think, handled

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Speaker 2: this all very admirably. He spoke to this in response

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Speaker 2: to the Israeli saying, oh, we're so sorry, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to pull them, we're going to retrain them, etc.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a listen to E.

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Speaker 6: Eight.

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Speaker 7: The Israeli military has indeed taken what appears to be

577
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Speaker 7: unprecedented action, and the results of this both in speed

578
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Speaker 7: and in scope with the Israeli military's chief of staff

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Speaker 7: suspending the entire battalion from operations in the West Bank,

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Speaker 7: sending them back for training, all of that happening within

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Speaker 7: forty eight hours of our report airing. In addition, Mayyar

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Speaker 7: that soldier that you saw speaking about revenge about helping

583
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Speaker 7: illegal settler outposts become legal, he has been dismissed from

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Speaker 7: the Israeli military altogether. The soldier who assaulted my cameraman,

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Speaker 7: serial Theophilis, has been He is under investigation now by

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Speaker 7: Israel's military police. We will follow, of course, the results

587
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Speaker 7: of that investigation. But I do think it's important to

588
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Speaker 7: note that the swiftness and the scale of this response

589
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Speaker 7: is only really happening in large part because of who

590
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Speaker 7: we are, because we are journalists working for an American

591
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Speaker 7: news network. We have seen incidents similar to this before,

592
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Speaker 7: involving Palestinian journalists where there is no accountability. We have

593
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Speaker 7: also continued to watch as settler violence in the West

594
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Speaker 7: Bank has continued to increase at a dramatic pace, and

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Speaker 7: on that count as well, we have not yet heard

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Speaker 7: a sufficient response from the Israeli military about what they

597
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Speaker 7: are going to do to counter that growing settler violence

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Speaker 7: against Palestinians, and that is also an issue that we

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Speaker 7: will continue to cover extensively.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really appreciate him highlighting the fact that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if this was a Palestinian journalist, they wouldn't have done

602
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Speaker 2: anything whatsoever. If anything, they would have arrested or criminal

603
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Speaker 2: as Palestinian journalists. And that's the flip side of the

604
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Speaker 2: conversation we were having earlier about how Palestinians are put through

605
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Speaker 2: this military quote unquote military court system where they're all

606
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Speaker 2: convicted with almost no exception. And then on the flip

607
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: side of that is when settlers steal land, brutalized Palestinians,

608
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Speaker 2: even murder Palestinians, they almost never face any sort of

609
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Speaker 2: criminal conviction or accountability, which is what makes it even

610
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Speaker 2: more remarkable that Ben Gavier is actually convicted terrorists even

611
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Speaker 2: within Israel. That shows you what an absolute maniac and

612
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Speaker 2: racist monster that guy is.

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Speaker 3: Everybody go and follow Jeremy because don't forget, who's about

614
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Speaker 3: to buy CNN, And so I wouldn't be so sure

615
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Speaker 3: that David Allison and crew are going to allow any

616
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Speaker 3: reports like that anytime soon. The preview of their real

617
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Speaker 3: future was last night when Jake Tapper spent eight minutes

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Speaker 3: on a segment about Hassan Piker's anti septist Oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, what a fucking And one of the guys, sorry,

620
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Speaker 2: one of the guys that he had on his panel

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Speaker 2: about Big Tree too, was out all day defending the races.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know that race.

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Speaker 2: It's Love mandating that Palestinians be mass murdered, and you know,

624
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Speaker 2: through this new system.

625
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a thing.

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Speaker 1: Do you all want? Eternity?

627
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Speaker 3: Eight minutes is on cable television, So forty four minutes

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Speaker 3: in a one hour show, I'm just going to dedicate

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Speaker 3: eight minutes to this. Yeah, yeah, First of all, yeah,

630
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Speaker 3: you could have done a segment on the Israeli thing

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Speaker 3: even that. I mean, if I had forty four minutes,

632
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Speaker 3: I think our first block today was thirty eight minutes.

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Speaker 1: I could guarantee you that's not what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I just I'm still gobsmacked by the entire thing.

635
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Speaker 3: You know, look, Hassan and I have our differences, but

636
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Speaker 3: for fuck's sake, I mean, can we take this thing

637
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: like a little bit seriously?

638
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Speaker 1: Yeah? So crazy?

639
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that same dude too, By the way was one

640
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Speaker 2: of the ones who was like attacking Miss Rachel as

641
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: being anti Semitic for standing up for kids in Gaza.

642
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Speaker 2: That's who they brought on for this panel about bigotry

643
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: where he instantly said that every Jew in the world

644
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Speaker 2: is associated with Israel and.

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Speaker 4: You know loves that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's which was actually anti semitic and offered

647
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Speaker 2: on that panel.

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Speaker 3: It's really anyway, I come for some people, and he's

649
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Speaker 3: just like for me, like if when you come from

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Speaker 3: Miss Rachel, like I'm ready to go, like I'm ready

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Speaker 3: to fight as hard as I can.

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Speaker 1: I just I can't deal with these people.

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Speaker 2: All Right, We've got one more rather dystopian story here.

654
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Speaker 2: So Trump's been very excited about his big, ugly new ballroom.

655
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Speaker 2: Kyle calls it the Jeffrey Epstein Memorial Ballroom that he's constructing.

656
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 2: He let's slip a little interesting nugget about some of

657
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Speaker 2: the facets of this ballroom yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a listen to that.

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Speaker 8: Now, the military is building a big complex under the ballroom,

660
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Speaker 8: which has come out recently because of a stupid lawsuit

661
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Speaker 8: that was filed. But the military is building a massive

662
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Speaker 8: complex under the ballroom and that's under construction, and we're

663
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 8: doing very well, so we're ahead of schedule. That's part

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Speaker 8: of it. And the ballroom essentially becomes a shed for

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Speaker 8: what's being built under the military, including from drones and

666
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Speaker 8: including from any other thing. The glass on the windows

667
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Speaker 8: you see the big windows, the glass is extremely thick.

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00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 8: It's high grade bulletproof glass, so all of the windows

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Speaker 8: are bulletproof. I think the Times wrote to you some

670
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Speaker 8: of the windows are fake. We have no fake windows.

671
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Speaker 8: They said. They talked about a stairway on this south.

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Speaker 8: We don't have a stairway of this out that was

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Speaker 8: replaced a long time ago. But this is a view

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Speaker 8: of it from the north, and that's if you see it.

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Speaker 8: It fits in with the White House. It's almost a

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Speaker 8: twin to the White House. It's something we just wanted

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Speaker 8: to pay tribute to the White House.

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Speaker 2: So there you go, admitting the military is building a

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Speaker 2: massive complex to do something underneath of this ballroom. And Sager,

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Speaker 2: you and I were getting questions yesterday in Ama about this,

681
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: and we hadn't seen this news yet, and we're like, oh,

682
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: there was some YouTube thing about a data center. I

683
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: haven't seen any proof for it. And then Trump just

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Speaker 2: go just I mean.

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Speaker 3: I've had people I haven't proven right come up to

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Speaker 3: me on the street beg me to cover the ballroom

687
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Speaker 3: data center.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonn. This happened like three times. Yeah, and

689
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Speaker 1: I'm always like, what the fuck are you talking about?

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00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: But i mean, listen, all right, let's let's put the

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00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 3: hat on first.

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Speaker 1: Let's give the innocent explanation. Here's the innocent explanation.

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Speaker 3: The PIOC, the Presidential Emergency Operations Center, is a piece

694
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: of shit. If you read let's say, I'm trying to

695
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: think there's a good book, Days of Fire.

696
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: There you go.

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00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 3: Peter Baker, A History of the Bush presidency. Bush is stunned.

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Speaker 3: The first time he has to go down there. He's

699
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: woken up in the middle of the night, like after

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Speaker 3: nine to eleven. The look sorry, you have to go

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00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: to the emergency bunker. And he goes down there and

702
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: it's like nineteen sixties technology. He's literally sleeping on a

703
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: cot like him and his wife, and he's like, this

704
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: is untenable. Apparently it's basically not been upgraded since that time.

705
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: There's been minor cosmetic improvements, but it's a nineteen sixties

706
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: bunker At the end of the day, it's really not

707
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Speaker 3: that great.

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Speaker 4: We want our presidents to write out the nuclear.

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Speaker 1: Populistion style, right exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, well the rest anyone else watching paradise

711
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: Not to give away too much, but yeah, so like

712
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: that's the that's the existing situation with the Presidential Emergency

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00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: Operation Center in twenty twenty five, they had already reported

714
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 3: that they wanted to completely think about it. Trump He's

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Speaker 3: not going to be an unstylish bunker, right, so he

716
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: needs a nicer bunker to survive a nuclear.

717
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: Apocalypse that so springing upon us.

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00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: So what is he gonna do? So he's gonna build

719
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: a new one?

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Speaker 3: Well, the new one is well, the current one is

721
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: under the existing White House complex, So if you're going

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00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: to build this giant ballroom, you might as well put

723
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Speaker 3: a new piac underneath the boss. So that's the innocent explanation.

724
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: At the same time, everybody else who's freaking out and

725
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 3: is like, well, if you have all these billionaires by

726
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 3: building these bunkers in New Zealand, and then the president

727
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: himself wants to build a new but you're like, what

728
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 3: does he know that I don't know, which is entirely

729
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: rational again for anybody who's watching the show Paradise. Again,

730
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 3: not to give away too many spoilers, but it's actually,

731
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: like on ironically, something that would happen. Secret knowledge people

732
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: with means building bunkers, especially in the middle of this

733
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: Iran crisis.

734
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Speaker 1: Maybe they know something that we don't. It's scary.

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing, Like the President can't tell

736
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: there anymore than we can. He has access to additional

737
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: information that we don't, although I'm not even sure that's

738
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: true because apparently he has less information by his own choice,

739
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: because he decides to just get these two minute hype

740
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,959
Speaker 2: real briefings instead of consuming actual information. But in any case,

741
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: he can't tell the future, but he knows. Oh I'm courting.

742
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Speaker 2: I am We are nuclear arm superpower. Our buddy Israel

743
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: is also nuclear armed, increasingly superpower. We are courding this

744
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: confrontation both with Russia and China and oh, by the way,

745
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 2: around me pursuing nuclear weapon as well.

746
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 4: Do we put it on the realm of.

747
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: Possibility that Israel drops a nuke? No, we don't and

748
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: then off to the races. Who the fuck knows what

749
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: happens next? So I'm going to get a bunker. I'm

750
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: gonna make sure I'm good so i can play these

751
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: end times, you know, apocalypse games, because you know it'll

752
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: be fine. Me and my family and my aids will

753
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: be will be good. Good luck rest of the world.

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00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: Not to mention this again gets into the you know,

755
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: the mentality of these old men who are running the world,

756
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: who have no long term interest in survival of human civilization. Apparently,

757
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: Caroline Levitt was asked about this yesterday. Let's go ahead

758
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: and take a listen what she had to say.

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Speaker 7: Can you tell us more about this massive military complex

760
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 7: underneath the president's new ballroom.

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Speaker 1: I cannot tell you more about that.

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Speaker 9: Actually, as a matter of fact, however, the military is

763
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Speaker 9: making some upgrades to their facilities here at the White House,

764
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Speaker 9: and I'm not privy to provide any more details on that.

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Speaker 4: At this time.

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Speaker 2: So military making some upgrades. So it's not just Trump freelancing.

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Speaker 2: And also I just have to comment on and he's

768
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: holding up the board and whatever like this is what

769
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: he actually cares about, this friaking ballroom. This is the

770
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: Passion project, right. He's sick of the Iran The Iran

771
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: war has become tedious to him. That's his issue with it,

772
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: and he wants out of there, and he's looking at

773
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: the market. It's not going too good. I'm sick of

774
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: doing this. He just wants to focus on like his

775
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: gold trimmings and that are going into his nuclear bunker

776
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: so he can survive the apocalypse that he himself is created.

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00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is Look, I don't know this entire thing

778
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: is the bunker. Okay, but then let's have fun with

779
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: it aliens.

780
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: Right? Wait, what h with the buddy?

781
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: He needs to survive. They're going they're coming to kill

782
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: us all. They can't do anything about it. It's instead

783
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: of a nuclear apocalypse, he's going to go down there

784
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: and save himself and and his friends.

785
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: What is possible?

786
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: What can't it out?

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00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: What is the data center theory of why they're building

788
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: a data center?

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Speaker 1: Secret data Look, I'm not rolling it out. I have not.

790
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: I have not fully delved into it. It's like some

791
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: secret military video installation.

792
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 3: And it would be a large data center to I think,

793
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: to collect information on all America, like some sort of

794
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: supercomputereers volunteers, yes, substate that would exist on I mean

795
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 3: a bunker to survive a nuclear or alien apocalypse makes

796
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: a lot more sense to me.

797
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: That's just me, So I don't know.

798
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: Keep tell us your own theories, tell us your own

799
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: theories and maybe why it fits with the data centers.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you guys so much for watching. We

801
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: appreciate you. Wednesday, so Ryan and Emily on tomorrow. I

802
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 3: think Professor Pape is on tomorrow, right, yeah, so yeah, enjoy, enjoy,

803
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: shake up and the Professor Pape interviews.

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Speaker 1: You had to change his schedule. They'll see you then,