WEBVTT - Jeff Goldblum Gets Jazzy

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. I love Jeff Goldblum. Over a fifty year acting career,

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<v Speaker 1>He's played unforgettable roles like the snarky scientist in Jurassic Park,

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<v Speaker 1>he saved the world from an alien invasion with Will

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<v Speaker 1>Smith in Independence Day, and most recently, he was Incredible

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<v Speaker 1>and Thor Ragnarok. Next year he'll being the newest installment

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<v Speaker 1>of Jurassic Park. And Jeff even has his own show

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<v Speaker 1>on Disney Plus. But the one place I didn't expect

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<v Speaker 1>him to show up was in jazz. Jeff Goldblum is

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<v Speaker 1>a surprisingly dedicated jazz pianist. He played a weekly gig

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<v Speaker 1>in La with his band, The Mildred Snitzer Orchestra until

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, and he still practices every morning. He's released

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<v Speaker 1>two albums with this band. Their latest is I Shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>Be telling You This, featuring vocals from Gregory Porter, Fiona Apple,

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<v Speaker 1>Miley Cyrus and Moore. And before you start thinking this

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<v Speaker 1>is just a celebrity vanity project, it's not justin playing

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<v Speaker 1>around for thirty years and clubs and bars. Broken record

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<v Speaker 1>producer Leah Rose and I talked to Jeff on Zoom

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<v Speaker 1>about his career as a musician. He told us about

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<v Speaker 1>how we started playing piano in Pittsburgh. Cocktail lounges at

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen about his morning practice routine, and he tells us

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<v Speaker 1>about meeting two of his heroes, Stevie Wonder and Muhammad Ali.

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<v Speaker 1>This is broken record liner notes for the Digital Age.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm justin Richmondson. Here's Leah Rose and me in conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Jeff Goldblum. Hi Justin, Hey Hilia Rose, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. Oh my pleasure, your kidding. I'm honored and thrilled. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw. I just was listening to a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of your podcast with Esperanza Spalding. Yeah, isn't she incredible?

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<v Speaker 1>So incredible? And I met her. I was invited because

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<v Speaker 1>I know a little bit Wayne Shorter and his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>so I so I was invited to their house, to

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<v Speaker 1>his house and saw a little bit of a presentation

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<v Speaker 1>of what they're working on now that their opera. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>their opera, and she it just it was great. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And she wears those life Force suits. She has like

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<v Speaker 1>ten of them, and she wears it every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>So she gets that out of the way. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about how she looks, what she puts on.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like, I think Einstein did that, and my character

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<v Speaker 1>in The Fly did that. I show Gina Davis my

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<v Speaker 1>closet at some point I've got five herring bone jackets

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<v Speaker 1>and I say, yeah, I don't want to have to

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<v Speaker 1>think about what I'm putting on. Yeah, that's like the

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Jobs thing too. Yeah, same thing. Well, oh you

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<v Speaker 1>know all of us, Uh cookie, I'm not like that

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<v Speaker 1>in real life. I'm just kind of a regular thencome

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<v Speaker 1>phoop in real life. Oh come on. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about that. But I was at the Grove about

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years ago. Um. It must have been right before

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas time, because they were there was like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas tree setting up, and I was there and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wait a second, it is that Jeff Goldbom

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<v Speaker 1>and you were rehearsing. I wasn't there for the big thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but you were rehearsing earlier in that afternoon. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy shit, he plays Pia and you were like, really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be darned, that's the I know exactly what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. That's the only time we ever played the

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<v Speaker 1>Grove like that, But we played something there and you

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<v Speaker 1>know who else was on that bill? Was Bert backrack, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I miss Bert, Yeah, man. They asked us to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of this you know, tree lighting ceremony or Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>eve thing or I don't know what it was where

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<v Speaker 1>we played some Christmas song we just took came out

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<v Speaker 1>with a Christmas song. Now you know you can you

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<v Speaker 1>can law gone and get Winter Wonderland. We do a

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<v Speaker 1>nice little version you know about za. I like that

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<v Speaker 1>what we did? How about that? I later saw you

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<v Speaker 1>at Rockwell, like when did you start performing again? Like

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<v Speaker 1>when did you start getting out and putting a band

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<v Speaker 1>together and playing? About thirty years ago? Now it's been

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<v Speaker 1>three decades where my friend John Mastro and I here's

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. Peter Weller said, hey, let's play out and about.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been fooling around at my house. He plays trump

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and not nicely, very nicely, and we

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<v Speaker 1>did that, and then he got the idea we should

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<v Speaker 1>play out and about. So we had a there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lovely guitar player that he knew and a place

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<v Speaker 1>that he said they'd let us set our stuff up

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<v Speaker 1>and play during brunch or something like that, and we

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<v Speaker 1>started to play out and about and and then he's

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<v Speaker 1>gone off and done other things, but we had this

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<v Speaker 1>band that grew, and whenever I've not been working, I

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing it. And now it's even before we did

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<v Speaker 1>these records, it's sort of developed. We've been playing at

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<v Speaker 1>this place rock Well where you saw us like for

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<v Speaker 1>the last I don't know, six or seven or eight

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<v Speaker 1>years or something, whenever I'm not working once a week,

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<v Speaker 1>and so as much acting as I do, I've now

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<v Speaker 1>clocked as many hours of so called performance, but it

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<v Speaker 1>always just feels like a hanging out and playing and

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<v Speaker 1>rehearsing publicly, and I just kind of adore it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more than anything else. And now it's become a show,

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<v Speaker 1>a show that we do in theaters, big theaters. We

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<v Speaker 1>did the Glastonbury Festival, and go all over and it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of translates itself wherever we go where we play

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that now we kind of cook up and the

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<v Speaker 1>band is really good. And then I do spontaneous games

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<v Speaker 1>and talking and you know, gold bloom stuff with people.

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<v Speaker 1>And why the piano, why is that your instrument of choice? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not one of those guys who've ever had much

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<v Speaker 1>of a facility for anything else. I like to drum

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<v Speaker 1>on things and I like the piano, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to the extent that it's percussive, you know, so I

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<v Speaker 1>like to I like tap dance, and I was always

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<v Speaker 1>interested in making making rhythms, but the piano was just

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<v Speaker 1>something that was around our house. I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh and we had a piano there, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>gave us lessons. You know. My mom was dutifully, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>good about exposing us to things that might interest us,

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<v Speaker 1>and she gave us all lessons. My brother had a

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<v Speaker 1>clarinet for a little bit, but we had a piano,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had some facility for it, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know the joys of discipline yet would dread the lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>And Tommy Emil coming over and I hadn't practiced, and

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<v Speaker 1>da da da dadada. But then he gave me a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of music, an arrangement that I learned because I'd

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<v Speaker 1>learned how to read music of Alley Cat and I

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<v Speaker 1>first sort of became aware of syncopation and day that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing and just killed me. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm going to sit here and play and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to practice now until I can do this. I

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<v Speaker 1>just love it so much. And then I think Stairway

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<v Speaker 1>to the Stars and Deep Purple were the next two

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<v Speaker 1>things that and that they were chords. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>had been playing Cherney and you know, just some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>scales things, and uh, but something about those chords just

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<v Speaker 1>got me and I just started to get better and play.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we had fake books around and uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I got with his teacher, Frank con Amando in

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh that people may know, and he was great. I

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<v Speaker 1>used to go over to his house. My parents were

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<v Speaker 1>good that way, and he taught me about composition and

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<v Speaker 1>harmony and different voicings and different modes and how to

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<v Speaker 1>possibly improvise to you know, what was going on, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just fell in love with it. Met around fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old. I thought I was I'd already set my

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<v Speaker 1>heart on a career in acting, but I, just like

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<v Speaker 1>I do now, had this side parallel passion for piano

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<v Speaker 1>and music and got the talent the Yellow Pages and

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<v Speaker 1>started to go through them, uh cocktail lounges and started

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<v Speaker 1>to call cold call people and say, hey, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that you you're interested in a pianist, and most of

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<v Speaker 1>them would say, no, we don't have a I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who this is kid. Well you're you're you're misinformed.

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<v Speaker 1>But a couple of them said, who's this. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a piano here nobody's playing. Would come down and

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<v Speaker 1>play it. And I got a couple of gigs that

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<v Speaker 1>way and so amazing. Yeah, I know, just for the

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<v Speaker 1>fun of it. What were you playing? Oh? You know? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I would bring the fake book with me, like I

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<v Speaker 1>used to do up until recently, really until we really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of honed our repertoire and had something to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of present. And I had a show that which I do,

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<v Speaker 1>which has games and things and it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>neat hour three hours actually for me. But at that

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<v Speaker 1>time I just brought a you know, my fake books

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<v Speaker 1>and would just go through them. You know. My dad's

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<v Speaker 1>song favorite song was Misty. You know, he loved Errol

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<v Speaker 1>Garner and exposed me to it early on. I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>crazy about him, you know, and he brought home that album.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Errol Garner plays Misty, and i'd listen to that,

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<v Speaker 1>so anyway, i'd play that and other things. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I played as you know, Sat and Doll you know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably you're all from Meet Panima, probably you know, anything else,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I would take request, I'd say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want me to play? And then I'd

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<v Speaker 1>look it up. I'd see if I have it because

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<v Speaker 1>I could kind of you know, cold rita rita lead sheet,

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<v Speaker 1>you know like that. Were people receptive in these bars?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't imagine Pittsburgh as being like a big jazz town,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I found out a bunch of jazz like

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<v Speaker 1>Are Blak and Arrol are from there. But were they

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<v Speaker 1>receptive when you're playing a mad Jamal, they're different people. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the places that I went were serious jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they were going expecting to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a mad Jamal or Errol Garner there. But from what

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<v Speaker 1>I gathered, there were places that I should have been

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<v Speaker 1>going to that were serious there. You in Pittsburgh is

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<v Speaker 1>a hot bit of talent, But I didn't know the

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<v Speaker 1>places I went, Like the guys that I got on

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<v Speaker 1>on the other end of the phone, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>were just cocktail lounges and they said, yeah, I come down.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I just saw the people there wanting drinks

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and they were receptive plenty. They were receptive enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I thought I was doing? You weren't

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<v Speaker 1>getting you, weren't getting booed. People were appreciative at least listening.

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<v Speaker 1>They seem tickled in some way. You know, at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>did you act at all? Had you done any like

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<v Speaker 1>just little plays around it? Well, around that time I

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<v Speaker 1>had my heart set on acting, because I'd gone to

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<v Speaker 1>Carnegie Mellon University in the between ninth and tenth and

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<v Speaker 1>tenth and eleventh grades for these six weeks summer sessions

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<v Speaker 1>that they had the serious professors of that good school

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<v Speaker 1>and that good program teach these kids do from all

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<v Speaker 1>over the country, and I just felt like I was

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<v Speaker 1>home and had felt and had found my family somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>and was very excited and would write on the steamy

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<v Speaker 1>shower door every morning as I took a shower before school,

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<v Speaker 1>Please God let me be an actor. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>kept it secret. I would wipe it away so nobody

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<v Speaker 1>saw it, because it was just a secret of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would. I was sort of baying at the

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<v Speaker 1>moon about the whole thing. But I hadn't really done

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<v Speaker 1>anything because even the kind of cheesy a thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the high school that I went to, which was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of provincial in some ways, you know, they did Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, but I kind of didn't participate.

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<v Speaker 1>I was stupidly not, you know, kind of thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was had other other notions and this and that, and

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I could get out at seventeen, I graduated,

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<v Speaker 1>went to New York somehow and got to the Neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>Playhouse where Sandy Meisner, a great acting teacher, was teaching,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when I started to do it, but still

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't really done anything studied that year, and then in

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<v Speaker 1>between the first and second year, I fell into, by

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<v Speaker 1>a fluke, a production of my first job, and the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing I didn't even go up for. They called

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<v Speaker 1>the school, in fact, said did you have anybody tall?

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<v Speaker 1>It could be a guard in this thing. We're doing

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<v Speaker 1>this musical version of Two Gentlemen of Verona, and Galt McDermott,

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote Hair along with Jerome Ragney, wrote the music

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<v Speaker 1>to it, is doing the music to it, and John

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<v Speaker 1>Guare's a great playwright, is adapting to Shakespeare and rel

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<v Speaker 1>Julie was in it, and then added I got the part,

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<v Speaker 1>and I joined that, it was in the it was

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<v Speaker 1>in the chorus, and this and that and played in

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<v Speaker 1>the pit. I used to go down play piano. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was down there and in the pit was Thad Jones. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>would be in the pit. You know, all these guys

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<v Speaker 1>take a little stints and in Broadway or orchestra pitch sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had seen him because my dad the jazz fan.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd gone to Atlantic City from Pittsburgh. We'd driven to

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantic City like we used to do several years, and

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<v Speaker 1>like on the steel pier or something, there was some

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I, Hey, I see that Thad Jones mill

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis are playing. We got to go see them. So

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<v Speaker 1>I saw them and they're big band live. I can

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<v Speaker 1>still remember it. Anyway. Then I saw him. I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you and did I did? I play a

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<v Speaker 1>little And so I was playing with these guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of moxie. Was Gald McDermot down in

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<v Speaker 1>the pit two Gold McDermot. Do you know? No, he would?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Like that was a Broadway show. Was the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest hit of Shakespeare Festival that ever had and because

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<v Speaker 1>a big story that summer at the Delacourt outside and

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<v Speaker 1>then we went to the Saint James Theater. I was

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<v Speaker 1>there for a year, understayed one of the bigger parts,

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<v Speaker 1>and no, the composer of it. I think they check

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<v Speaker 1>in on it probably, sure, you know, even unbeknownst to

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<v Speaker 1>us sometimes. But no, No, my friend Tom Pearson was conducting,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh do you know who else was in that

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<v Speaker 1>pit for a while who played drums? Bernard Party? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know Bernard Party? We were supposed to interview him

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<v Speaker 1>for this, Well, this is nineteen seventy one, and he was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in his full flush of his of his

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant tendencies, having played for Aretha Franklin with Aretha Jeez,

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<v Speaker 1>Bernard Party, how about that? So did you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>these guys and sort of asked them like lean advice

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<v Speaker 1>or you know? I was stupid, like I've always been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stupid. I kind of am like zelling in

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<v Speaker 1>some way. I kind of would show up and just

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<v Speaker 1>had a lucky, you know, intersection with some of these types.

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<v Speaker 1>But unlike now where I wouldn't get really hip. I

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of just sort of stupid. And now go

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<v Speaker 1>on IMDb, you can use you know, Wikipedia. Before I

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<v Speaker 1>have meetings, I go and work with people. I go, She's,

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<v Speaker 1>oh right, I know them. But there are all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of stories that I can tell you about actors that

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked with, and including that Jones and Bernard Purty,

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<v Speaker 1>who I barely realized how lucky I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>likewise with many actors. But now that's why I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go, I hope it's not a violation of protocol.

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<v Speaker 1>But I I find out about you do some research. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do my research, and I say, oh, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>then I asked them my question. It's so cool so

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<v Speaker 1>early on, So those early performances at like Pittsburgh Bars,

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<v Speaker 1>those are your first public performances ever, Yeah, you could

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<v Speaker 1>say that. I guess. I guess. So that's right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so strange. It's so funny that that was your you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you go on to act, and acting was

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<v Speaker 1>really your main the main thing you were after. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the earliest public display of Jeff Goldblum is is

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<v Speaker 1>playing piano. Yeah, that's right. As first. That's why it

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<v Speaker 1>feels natural now. And it was always just for fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I never had any kind of identity investment in it,

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<v Speaker 1>like or career ism about it. I was just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to do this, this is fun. And

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<v Speaker 1>still that's kind of how this whole thing has happened

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<v Speaker 1>now and it just changes my days in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day, like this morning, I get up and play

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<v Speaker 1>for about an hour. It's one of the first things

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<v Speaker 1>I do before the kids get up. And around five

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<v Speaker 1>am or six am, I work out here and I

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<v Speaker 1>play piano and I work on my lines for Jurassic World.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point I got a part to work on,

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<v Speaker 1>so I get all my homework done them very now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what it's like to be disciplined and how

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<v Speaker 1>that can bear fruit, and so I just play and

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<v Speaker 1>it changes my day. It's music is as much a

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<v Speaker 1>meditation and a tonic for me as anything that I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just adore it. And then playing out and

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<v Speaker 1>about which is kind of developed now and making these

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<v Speaker 1>records is just as sweet a thing as you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It could have happened to a fellow here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back with more from Jeff Goldbloom. After a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. We're back with more from Jeff Goldbloom, who's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his skilled band mates in the Mildred Snitzer Orchestra.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it playing with those guys because you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go to I mean a lot of your band like Berkeley,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know they played another great players they all

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<v Speaker 1>went there. They're all to all those places and their

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<v Speaker 1>their masters and they teach and they're they're great for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, it's just a great playing with all those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And now what I do every morning actually

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<v Speaker 1>is from the last album, which is what we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be playing when we do it, I hope live again

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<v Speaker 1>soon is we're gonna be doing a lot of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I put on the album and play along with

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<v Speaker 1>the songs plus several other things that we're cooking up

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<v Speaker 1>that we that are currently in our back burner. But

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<v Speaker 1>I play all of it every day. I go through

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<v Speaker 1>that whole album and play all of it. You go

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<v Speaker 1>through your most recent record and play along yep, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>yep yep. Every day with Miley Cyrus and Creona Apple

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<v Speaker 1>and Sharon van Etton and Anna Calvia everybody and aar

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<v Speaker 1>George and a great reporter. Every single day I play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at least once in the morning. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>makes some unhappy. I'm getting better, I tell you. Do

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<v Speaker 1>You almost wish you could rerecord the album. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're getting it under your fingers better? Oh? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time we did the album, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>had just come up with these arrangements. And the first

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<v Speaker 1>album with something Else, we did this kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>effects simile of our rockwell date and was very spontaneous

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<v Speaker 1>in the songs we played. You know. We had maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of takes, but we was whatever came out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And so I was kind of it was

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<v Speaker 1>however we did it. But we arranged these a little

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<v Speaker 1>more complicatedly and sophisticatedly, and I had something to learn

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<v Speaker 1>on them, and I was just getting my sea legs

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<v Speaker 1>on most of them as we recorded them and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reading and turning pages and getting them done. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I know all of them. I keep investigating them

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<v Speaker 1>every day and do different things every day with them.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh yeah, they're more under my fingers for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you go about choosing the vocalists that you

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<v Speaker 1>work with. Is there a type of voice that you

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<v Speaker 1>feel especially drawn to. Well, we had a wish list,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have many people I do and the band did.

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<v Speaker 1>I started defer sometimes to them. They know who they

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<v Speaker 1>like and I love their taste. But I was crazy

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<v Speaker 1>about all these people that we worked with. Greg Reporter,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I is kind of the way we got

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<v Speaker 1>hooked up with Decca. I was promoting for that movie

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago and I did the Graham Norton

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<v Speaker 1>Show in London and Greg Reporter was the musical guest,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was promoting that Nat King Cole album and

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to sing Mona Lisa and he had done

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<v Speaker 1>it with just a piano player, and said, hey, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to accompany me on the show? And we

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<v Speaker 1>ran through it backstage once and I did. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was because Decca, Tom Lewis, Rebecca Allen saw the show

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<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, maybe we should do something with Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>that that whole thing came about. So anyway, I was

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled that he was on the album and I love

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<v Speaker 1>his voice and we were thinking, gee if he was

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<v Speaker 1>even before he agreed to do it, that I had

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<v Speaker 1>proposed it to him that we said what would he sing?

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<v Speaker 1>What could he sing? Everything he sings? But we like

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<v Speaker 1>this song make someone happy, and it's we can do

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<v Speaker 1>it so slowly that he you know, it could be

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<v Speaker 1>right in his sweet spot. I'm sure enough. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>crazy about what he did with us. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>other singers you know we were looking for. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we were looking for singers who weren't ordinarily in the

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<v Speaker 1>jazz veins right, and thought that they're brilliant, unique, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>artistry could mash up with us in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>would be unexpected, surprising, And on a lot of those songs,

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<v Speaker 1>as you see, as you know, we mashed up a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different tunes, you know, jazz tunes to stand

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<v Speaker 1>jazz standards with you know pop tunes. Yeah, the Sidewinder

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<v Speaker 1>with the Beat Goes On. I've listened to the Sidewinder

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<v Speaker 1>so many times. I've listened to Beat Goes On a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of times and they fit together so well, and

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<v Speaker 1>never it never occurred to me until I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the record. It's so incredible. Yeah, the guys from the band,

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<v Speaker 1>they all, they all did that. You know, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the same harmonic composition, and you know, I love that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Beat goes On with Sidewinder, that at all. We

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<v Speaker 1>played that at gigs before that was in our you

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<v Speaker 1>know sometimes repertoire, and it always drove me crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>love love that song. It just drives me wild. But

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<v Speaker 1>how about the thrill is Gun that Miley does with

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<v Speaker 1>with Django my brother. One of the records that had

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<v Speaker 1>big influence on me was the modern jazz quartet, the

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<v Speaker 1>records that he would bring home and John Lewis and Django,

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<v Speaker 1>so they knew about that. They they sort of some

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<v Speaker 1>of the band Um Joe Bag and John Story and

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Frank kind of figured out that Jang would be

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<v Speaker 1>good with the thrill is gun. I love that. But

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<v Speaker 1>how about four on six with Broken English? How did that?

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<v Speaker 1>How did that come together? Well, the guys they had

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<v Speaker 1>it was before we got Anna Calvy to join us.

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<v Speaker 1>They put it together. We we they said, let's do

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<v Speaker 1>another mash up like that, and the chord structure was

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<v Speaker 1>right for it. And so four on six, which we'd

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<v Speaker 1>played a bunch before West Montgomery tune, but broken English, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Ann Faithful. I was not as familiar with that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they they figured that it was right, and I

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<v Speaker 1>played it every day. Now I know that a lot better.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait till we play that again, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>g Minor and I get a little solo in there

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<v Speaker 1>for a moment. Oh, I like that song, and then

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<v Speaker 1>oh how about it? If I knew then, you know

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<v Speaker 1>with Gina Saputo, that little we transpose it was their

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<v Speaker 1>idea to transpose that. Sarah Van solo that she does

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<v Speaker 1>that she scats on that, and we we played that

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<v Speaker 1>all together just in a little snippet. So was there

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<v Speaker 1>a concept before you started recording the album? Well, just

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<v Speaker 1>only that um that that this mashup of not only

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<v Speaker 1>tunes might be interesting, but this mashup of uh maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not traditionally jazz singers, what could mash up with us?

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<v Speaker 1>That was the That was our theme. That was it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then somebody said, well, maybe you should sing a song.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do like to sing just for my own annoyance,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and pleasure and m and uh and then

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know, I recorded into this into

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Frank's iPhone one day, a little man, you've had

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<v Speaker 1>a busy day, which I've been singing to the kids

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<v Speaker 1>when they go to sleep sometimes, And he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do that they come up, came up with a an

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<v Speaker 1>arrangement for that. Yeah. Do your boys look at you

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<v Speaker 1>as sort of like a music man? Are you? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you play the piano a lot while they're around and

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<v Speaker 1>sing to them? Yes, I you know, I'm we're singing

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. And I played the piano all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got keyboards. I got a nice Fender Rhodes old

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<v Speaker 1>Fender Rhodes that I have another Yamaha keyboard that I

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<v Speaker 1>use for practicing, and a nice Yamaha Grand Acoustic Grand.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they're they're around and I play him all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and I'm singing, and they're you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're musical, and they're taking lessons themselves. Wow. There. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Emily was very good at, you know, keeping them exposed

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<v Speaker 1>to all sorts of things. We got them into suzuki,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the suzuki yep. I did Suzuki method when

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<v Speaker 1>I was younger, you did, ye, I didn't know it

0:23:42.836 --> 0:23:44.556
<v Speaker 1>so much. But now we've got a very good teacher

0:23:44.676 --> 0:23:47.996
<v Speaker 1>named sense Kevin and h And during this period we

0:23:48.036 --> 0:23:50.276
<v Speaker 1>had gone, I drove them over to the valley and

0:23:50.556 --> 0:23:52.956
<v Speaker 1>on Ventura Boulevard there's a nice little studio and he

0:23:53.316 --> 0:23:55.076
<v Speaker 1>took some lessons there. And now he's been doing it

0:23:55.116 --> 0:23:58.756
<v Speaker 1>once a week or no, twice a week virtually, and

0:23:59.556 --> 0:24:02.396
<v Speaker 1>I play with him every day. But believe it or not,

0:24:03.076 --> 0:24:05.676
<v Speaker 1>he and he's five. Charlie the other one, you have

0:24:05.756 --> 0:24:08.276
<v Speaker 1>to kind of force him to. He does as little

0:24:08.316 --> 0:24:10.636
<v Speaker 1>as possibly. He's really not interested in it. He's plays

0:24:10.676 --> 0:24:13.076
<v Speaker 1>Twinkle Twinkle, Little Star. But Charlie is going through this

0:24:13.316 --> 0:24:17.036
<v Speaker 1>Zuoki book and he does what I do. I guess

0:24:17.116 --> 0:24:19.396
<v Speaker 1>because maybe I've modeled it, but he really he knows

0:24:19.436 --> 0:24:22.716
<v Speaker 1>that I play every morning. So every morning he gets

0:24:22.796 --> 0:24:27.876
<v Speaker 1>up at six thirty and he runs through his whole repertoire. Wow. Yeah,

0:24:27.916 --> 0:24:32.676
<v Speaker 1>and he's just learning to, you know, do things with

0:24:33.116 --> 0:24:37.996
<v Speaker 1>hands together, you know, um in unison. But he's just

0:24:38.236 --> 0:24:40.476
<v Speaker 1>but he's learning a couple of pieces where there's some

0:24:40.596 --> 0:24:43.076
<v Speaker 1>where it separates them and there's something coordinated you've got

0:24:43.076 --> 0:24:45.236
<v Speaker 1>to do with two different hands. And he's in he's

0:24:45.276 --> 0:24:47.716
<v Speaker 1>worked on it and he's getting them better, and he's

0:24:47.756 --> 0:24:50.116
<v Speaker 1>passing through stages and it just kind of thrills me,

0:24:50.196 --> 0:24:53.156
<v Speaker 1>like a like the average papa, you know. I looked

0:24:53.156 --> 0:24:55.836
<v Speaker 1>at it and it kind of, you know, just just

0:24:56.316 --> 0:24:59.676
<v Speaker 1>blows my blows my mind. That's incredible. It's amazing. I'm

0:24:59.716 --> 0:25:02.556
<v Speaker 1>gonna send my kids to your house, Jeff, you can

0:25:02.596 --> 0:25:05.036
<v Speaker 1>get them disciplined. Really, how many kids you got? What

0:25:05.076 --> 0:25:08.156
<v Speaker 1>are and what are they doing? Two? I have four

0:25:08.236 --> 0:25:10.516
<v Speaker 1>year old in a almost two year old. Hey, we're

0:25:10.516 --> 0:25:13.316
<v Speaker 1>in the same boat. Well that's it. They started around

0:25:13.396 --> 0:25:15.516
<v Speaker 1>you know, four, So it's been easy. I mean, and

0:25:15.556 --> 0:25:16.996
<v Speaker 1>I look at him. One of the things that I

0:25:17.036 --> 0:25:19.356
<v Speaker 1>say to myself and oftentimes allowed to Emily as wow,

0:25:19.716 --> 0:25:22.196
<v Speaker 1>I did not I started play taking lessons when I

0:25:22.236 --> 0:25:25.356
<v Speaker 1>was I think, I don't know, eight, nine, ten, something

0:25:25.396 --> 0:25:29.036
<v Speaker 1>like that. I was not playing like he was at ten.

0:25:29.276 --> 0:25:31.476
<v Speaker 1>And then he says, you know, we do listening things.

0:25:31.756 --> 0:25:34.396
<v Speaker 1>He goes here, play what I just did. And then

0:25:34.396 --> 0:25:36.676
<v Speaker 1>he just likes to explore the piano, and he, you know,

0:25:36.676 --> 0:25:40.396
<v Speaker 1>he puts all over the all over the keyboard. And

0:25:40.436 --> 0:25:43.516
<v Speaker 1>then sometimes although we say, oh don't you know, don't

0:25:43.596 --> 0:25:45.996
<v Speaker 1>ruin the piano, but he goes inside the piano. He

0:25:46.036 --> 0:25:48.276
<v Speaker 1>likes to see how it works. And you know, started

0:25:48.356 --> 0:25:51.796
<v Speaker 1>think think, think, you know, plucking the strings. They might

0:25:51.836 --> 0:25:55.276
<v Speaker 1>be an avant garde. Uh, you know player. One of

0:25:55.276 --> 0:25:57.996
<v Speaker 1>these days, has he gone do any of your gigs yet? Uh?

0:25:58.196 --> 0:26:01.876
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was, well, you know, the nighttime gigs

0:26:01.956 --> 0:26:04.316
<v Speaker 1>or two they go to bed at seven thirty. But

0:26:04.876 --> 0:26:07.396
<v Speaker 1>we started to gig at nine. But when we've played

0:26:07.396 --> 0:26:10.836
<v Speaker 1>a couple of these festivals, one I'm thinking of I

0:26:10.876 --> 0:26:13.516
<v Speaker 1>forget where it was. You know, in the daytime, we

0:26:13.596 --> 0:26:15.916
<v Speaker 1>all drove up to wherever it was and it was

0:26:15.956 --> 0:26:18.596
<v Speaker 1>a big outdoor festival and he was on the side

0:26:18.636 --> 0:26:22.316
<v Speaker 1>of the in the wings as I was playing. I

0:26:22.316 --> 0:26:24.316
<v Speaker 1>don't know that it made much impression on him, and

0:26:25.556 --> 0:26:28.956
<v Speaker 1>but it maybe I imprints on them, you know, someplace.

0:26:29.116 --> 0:26:30.316
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I don't know if I even know

0:26:30.356 --> 0:26:34.676
<v Speaker 1>if he'd remember now. But but even now they're not

0:26:35.516 --> 0:26:38.236
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they model themselves after me in some way, but

0:26:38.316 --> 0:26:42.516
<v Speaker 1>they're not particularly impressed. Oftentimes they'll say stop playing, stop playing.

0:26:42.876 --> 0:26:46.796
<v Speaker 1>They want to interrupt and stop. But then he'll say, hey,

0:26:47.316 --> 0:26:49.676
<v Speaker 1>do you know, do this stuff from my book? And

0:26:49.716 --> 0:26:52.316
<v Speaker 1>I'll play stuff from his book and they'll get kind of,

0:26:53.076 --> 0:26:58.036
<v Speaker 1>you know, frenzied and jump on me and stuff like that.

0:26:58.396 --> 0:27:01.356
<v Speaker 1>And music is, as you know it. It has a

0:27:01.436 --> 0:27:05.876
<v Speaker 1>wild effect on the on the on the nervous system,

0:27:05.956 --> 0:27:08.876
<v Speaker 1>doesn't it. He's going to be calling around a cocktail

0:27:08.916 --> 0:27:12.796
<v Speaker 1>out just pretty soon, watch out. I'm sure. I'm sure

0:27:13.556 --> 0:27:20.676
<v Speaker 1>we'll have more with Jeff Goldblum. After the break, we're

0:27:20.716 --> 0:27:23.396
<v Speaker 1>back with the rest of our interview with Jeff Goldblum, who,

0:27:23.396 --> 0:27:26.356
<v Speaker 1>when we left off, was talking about his kid's newfound

0:27:26.396 --> 0:27:29.956
<v Speaker 1>love for music. When you were their age or a

0:27:29.956 --> 0:27:32.276
<v Speaker 1>little maybe a little older, but just in your childhood,

0:27:32.316 --> 0:27:35.076
<v Speaker 1>you weren't maybe as disciplined as they were with the plane.

0:27:35.556 --> 0:27:37.916
<v Speaker 1>But was music an important part of your life? Were

0:27:37.916 --> 0:27:41.156
<v Speaker 1>you listening a lot and introduced to a lot? And yes,

0:27:41.476 --> 0:27:43.676
<v Speaker 1>I was listening. Like I say, my dad brought home

0:27:43.716 --> 0:27:47.356
<v Speaker 1>those Eryl Giner records and they would bring Broadway musicals home,

0:27:47.436 --> 0:27:50.996
<v Speaker 1>and the Music Man and My Fair Lady and stuff

0:27:51.036 --> 0:27:53.596
<v Speaker 1>like that. But jazz. And then I had an older brother,

0:27:53.996 --> 0:27:56.516
<v Speaker 1>like I say, four years older than I was, who

0:27:56.556 --> 0:27:59.756
<v Speaker 1>was really into jazz, and he would bring home Stan

0:27:59.956 --> 0:28:03.396
<v Speaker 1>Getz and Joe Barretto that album I was. I was

0:28:03.436 --> 0:28:08.236
<v Speaker 1>listening to a lot and modern Jazz quartet and all

0:28:08.476 --> 0:28:10.956
<v Speaker 1>kind of all kinds of stuff. So it was, yeah,

0:28:10.996 --> 0:28:13.716
<v Speaker 1>it was around and it did something to me. I

0:28:13.876 --> 0:28:16.396
<v Speaker 1>was you know, I would get jazzed up, you know,

0:28:16.516 --> 0:28:19.596
<v Speaker 1>around music early on. So would you say, do you

0:28:19.636 --> 0:28:23.236
<v Speaker 1>consider jazz to be your favorite type of music? Well,

0:28:23.556 --> 0:28:27.236
<v Speaker 1>and can you try to articulate what it does for you?

0:28:27.356 --> 0:28:30.436
<v Speaker 1>So many things, you know, jazz, there's so many kinds

0:28:30.476 --> 0:28:34.836
<v Speaker 1>of jazz and different songs that hit every all manner

0:28:34.876 --> 0:28:37.196
<v Speaker 1>of chords in you. But yeah, it's very I find

0:28:37.196 --> 0:28:43.036
<v Speaker 1>it complicated, you know sometimes and can hit places in

0:28:43.076 --> 0:28:51.036
<v Speaker 1>me that are uniquely unreachable otherwise, certainly, I love early

0:28:51.156 --> 0:28:53.916
<v Speaker 1>on I sort of got the idea that musicians and

0:28:53.956 --> 0:28:59.116
<v Speaker 1>even in recording could do something spontaneous and be inventing

0:28:59.196 --> 0:29:03.716
<v Speaker 1>something on the spot. That has always done something to me,

0:29:03.836 --> 0:29:07.276
<v Speaker 1>that idea. I'm still enthralled with it, and I try

0:29:07.276 --> 0:29:13.076
<v Speaker 1>to bring that to my acting and my presentations of

0:29:13.076 --> 0:29:15.516
<v Speaker 1>one kind or another. And I'm a student of it

0:29:15.596 --> 0:29:19.956
<v Speaker 1>in as it applies to jazz, you know. I just

0:29:20.636 --> 0:29:24.916
<v Speaker 1>love that. I love to try it myself and feel

0:29:24.916 --> 0:29:28.756
<v Speaker 1>like I'm you know, inventing right now, and it kind

0:29:28.796 --> 0:29:30.916
<v Speaker 1>of calls upon you to be it obliges you to

0:29:30.956 --> 0:29:34.036
<v Speaker 1>be present, you know, which is sort of overlaps with

0:29:34.076 --> 0:29:37.356
<v Speaker 1>another of my interests. You know, I've exposed my had

0:29:37.396 --> 0:29:42.796
<v Speaker 1>some exposure to Kartal for instance, you know, and be

0:29:42.956 --> 0:29:47.116
<v Speaker 1>here now from the sixties around us and stuff. So

0:29:47.476 --> 0:29:50.876
<v Speaker 1>that's that's been part of my you know, appetite and

0:29:50.916 --> 0:29:54.716
<v Speaker 1>interest all along. So it does all those things. But jazz.

0:29:54.756 --> 0:29:57.236
<v Speaker 1>When I saw that movie which I'll bet you like,

0:29:57.876 --> 0:30:01.356
<v Speaker 1>Around Midnight with Herbie Hancock playing a part in it

0:30:01.396 --> 0:30:04.316
<v Speaker 1>and Dexter Gordon, of course, I when I saw that

0:30:04.396 --> 0:30:07.036
<v Speaker 1>in the theater, I just started to cry. At one point,

0:30:07.316 --> 0:30:10.116
<v Speaker 1>tears sprang out of my eyes when they started to

0:30:10.156 --> 0:30:12.316
<v Speaker 1>play something, and there was no reason, there was no lyric.

0:30:12.356 --> 0:30:14.796
<v Speaker 1>There weren't lyrics too. It was of course an instrumental

0:30:14.916 --> 0:30:17.436
<v Speaker 1>and it was herb playing something. And it was just

0:30:17.556 --> 0:30:23.396
<v Speaker 1>the complication and the lushness and of the chords that

0:30:23.676 --> 0:30:27.396
<v Speaker 1>just did something to me. And of course all those practitioners,

0:30:27.436 --> 0:30:32.316
<v Speaker 1>their their devotion, lifelong devotion to it and a sacred

0:30:32.356 --> 0:30:36.396
<v Speaker 1>you know, romance with it is just you know, hits

0:30:36.476 --> 0:30:40.316
<v Speaker 1>me hard. Yeah. And then we had a little forty

0:30:40.316 --> 0:30:42.596
<v Speaker 1>five player, my sister and I who was two years younger,

0:30:42.756 --> 0:30:45.516
<v Speaker 1>and she and I would collect these things. Oh boy,

0:30:45.636 --> 0:30:48.196
<v Speaker 1>we had. There were a couple that we just played

0:30:48.236 --> 0:30:50.956
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. I got the Stevie Wonder record

0:30:51.076 --> 0:30:54.756
<v Speaker 1>of for Once in My Life that I played over

0:30:54.796 --> 0:30:57.596
<v Speaker 1>and I must have played in thousands of times. And

0:30:57.636 --> 0:30:59.796
<v Speaker 1>now I've come to meet him and know him a

0:30:59.796 --> 0:31:01.916
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Believe it or not, he stopped in to

0:31:01.996 --> 0:31:05.596
<v Speaker 1>the recording one of the recording sessions on our first album.

0:31:05.716 --> 0:31:09.596
<v Speaker 1>How frightening was that? I know, I just or him.

0:31:09.716 --> 0:31:11.676
<v Speaker 1>I've adored him my whole life. But we all these

0:31:11.676 --> 0:31:16.076
<v Speaker 1>forty five's, we played over and over again. We played

0:31:16.116 --> 0:31:19.836
<v Speaker 1>this Peggy Lee song. Is that all there is? Uh?

0:31:20.436 --> 0:31:23.316
<v Speaker 1>We had a little forty five of that. Uh, you know,

0:31:23.396 --> 0:31:26.036
<v Speaker 1>so it was it was all over the place. Yeah,

0:31:26.076 --> 0:31:28.156
<v Speaker 1>So what do you say to Stevie wonder when you

0:31:28.196 --> 0:31:30.436
<v Speaker 1>meet him, because people must come up to you all

0:31:30.436 --> 0:31:32.436
<v Speaker 1>the time and want you know, it's like, this is

0:31:32.476 --> 0:31:36.316
<v Speaker 1>my chance, this is Jeff Goldblum. What do I say? Well,

0:31:36.396 --> 0:31:39.796
<v Speaker 1>so I'm sensitive to you know how you know, he

0:31:39.876 --> 0:31:43.876
<v Speaker 1>must be beleaguered um. And you know his wife was

0:31:44.116 --> 0:31:46.796
<v Speaker 1>very nice. We've become friendly with his wife. We were

0:31:46.796 --> 0:31:48.636
<v Speaker 1>on a cruise. It was a kind of an intimate,

0:31:48.916 --> 0:31:52.036
<v Speaker 1>a semi intimate, you know, setting where we first met.

0:31:52.356 --> 0:31:56.756
<v Speaker 1>And he couldn't have been sweeter. I was very nice.

0:31:56.796 --> 0:31:59.716
<v Speaker 1>And you know, as you can imagine, Uh, he touches

0:31:59.756 --> 0:32:02.036
<v Speaker 1>you and I touched you know, we were holding hands

0:32:02.036 --> 0:32:05.196
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and you know, um, uh you know

0:32:05.236 --> 0:32:08.596
<v Speaker 1>I said into his ear, you know, you know, it

0:32:08.636 --> 0:32:10.596
<v Speaker 1>was a little always year around. I said, you know

0:32:10.636 --> 0:32:13.316
<v Speaker 1>how much I adored him and this and that, and

0:32:13.636 --> 0:32:15.636
<v Speaker 1>you know we talked. He couldn't have been sweeter. He

0:32:15.996 --> 0:32:17.836
<v Speaker 1>was just great. It was one of the thrills of

0:32:17.876 --> 0:32:20.756
<v Speaker 1>my life. Amazing. It's like the time I met Muhammad

0:32:20.756 --> 0:32:22.996
<v Speaker 1>Ali and his wife. It was later. He was a

0:32:22.996 --> 0:32:28.756
<v Speaker 1>little bit already getting a little bit uh challenged and

0:32:28.076 --> 0:32:34.476
<v Speaker 1>uh and he said, oh, Jeff, Jeff Goldman, you scared me.

0:32:34.996 --> 0:32:37.676
<v Speaker 1>You scared me. I said, what do you what do

0:32:37.716 --> 0:32:40.196
<v Speaker 1>you mean? His wife said, oh, Jeff, we saw the fly.

0:32:40.316 --> 0:32:44.556
<v Speaker 1>We just saw the fly. He said. I said, well, Champ,

0:32:44.636 --> 0:32:46.796
<v Speaker 1>I just so I got a little weepy. I said,

0:32:46.836 --> 0:32:49.436
<v Speaker 1>I just adore you so much and I've always, I've

0:32:49.436 --> 0:32:51.476
<v Speaker 1>always You've meant so much to me, and thank you

0:32:51.556 --> 0:32:53.956
<v Speaker 1>so much. And he said, well, where you know, I

0:32:54.036 --> 0:32:57.556
<v Speaker 1>may come over and knock on your door someday and

0:32:58.276 --> 0:33:01.636
<v Speaker 1>come over and visit you. I said, oh, Champ, that

0:33:01.676 --> 0:33:05.036
<v Speaker 1>would be just just great anyway. You never I never

0:33:05.036 --> 0:33:07.676
<v Speaker 1>got a chance to, or he never did. But I just, uh,

0:33:07.836 --> 0:33:10.556
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm very easy start strike by a couple

0:33:10.596 --> 0:33:15.116
<v Speaker 1>of types, especially Stevie Wonder and Muhammad Ali are too

0:33:15.116 --> 0:33:18.916
<v Speaker 1>good times. Oh Man, you're telling me, you're telling me.

0:33:19.356 --> 0:33:21.756
<v Speaker 1>It's funny too, because I guess a lot of people,

0:33:22.036 --> 0:33:24.716
<v Speaker 1>you know, people probably have seen The Big Chill, And

0:33:25.276 --> 0:33:27.276
<v Speaker 1>a big part of that movie is the soundtrack and

0:33:27.316 --> 0:33:29.636
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people you know of your cohort, it's

0:33:29.636 --> 0:33:31.796
<v Speaker 1>like that's the soundtrack of their growing up. You know,

0:33:31.836 --> 0:33:34.516
<v Speaker 1>the Stones and the mo all the Motown, which of

0:33:34.516 --> 0:33:36.396
<v Speaker 1>course Steve is a part of. But it seems like

0:33:36.396 --> 0:33:40.276
<v Speaker 1>you were more jazz geared than like, you know, Beatles

0:33:40.316 --> 0:33:42.636
<v Speaker 1>and the Who and or were you did you also

0:33:42.636 --> 0:33:44.076
<v Speaker 1>listen to a lot of rock and roll, and I

0:33:44.556 --> 0:33:47.716
<v Speaker 1>was jazz geared. I had a big thing for jazz.

0:33:47.916 --> 0:33:50.796
<v Speaker 1>But but at art when I went to this little

0:33:50.876 --> 0:33:53.916
<v Speaker 1>kind of provincial, small town school. We were in the

0:33:53.916 --> 0:33:57.716
<v Speaker 1>suburbs of Pittsburgh, and we used to have little dances.

0:33:57.756 --> 0:33:59.796
<v Speaker 1>But right around that time, let me see, I was

0:33:59.796 --> 0:34:02.636
<v Speaker 1>born in fifty two, so when I was like thirteen,

0:34:03.036 --> 0:34:08.196
<v Speaker 1>coming of a particular age, it's now, why fifty two

0:34:08.356 --> 0:34:12.236
<v Speaker 1>sixty five something like that. And look up the hits

0:34:12.956 --> 0:34:16.396
<v Speaker 1>that we had at our at our lunch time, you know,

0:34:16.516 --> 0:34:20.356
<v Speaker 1>dances and all, and they played all motown stuff, so

0:34:20.476 --> 0:34:24.636
<v Speaker 1>you know, Diana Ross and the Supremes and Marvin Gay

0:34:24.676 --> 0:34:28.716
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. Where I was really into Ray Charles.

0:34:28.716 --> 0:34:33.716
<v Speaker 1>I was into real early. And then the only kind

0:34:33.756 --> 0:34:37.036
<v Speaker 1>of rock stuff, you know, it would come on the radio,

0:34:37.116 --> 0:34:39.836
<v Speaker 1>but rock stuff. My brother, the same brother who was

0:34:39.916 --> 0:34:43.036
<v Speaker 1>interested in jazz, took me over to his apartment once

0:34:43.076 --> 0:34:45.076
<v Speaker 1>he'd already moved out of the house. When I was like,

0:34:45.116 --> 0:34:47.836
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, fifteen sixteen. I looked up to him

0:34:48.036 --> 0:34:51.836
<v Speaker 1>and he had a bunch of Beatles albums and introduced

0:34:51.836 --> 0:34:55.076
<v Speaker 1>me for the first time to you know, the White Album,

0:34:55.156 --> 0:34:59.276
<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Peppers and Magical Mystery Tour, and I loved those,

0:34:59.356 --> 0:35:01.716
<v Speaker 1>you know, they's had a big made a big impression

0:35:01.756 --> 0:35:04.396
<v Speaker 1>on me. Yeah. What an era of music to be

0:35:04.476 --> 0:35:09.236
<v Speaker 1>a young person. I know, it was totally magical. I know. Oh,

0:35:09.276 --> 0:35:11.996
<v Speaker 1>I feel very lucky to have been right where I

0:35:12.116 --> 0:35:15.556
<v Speaker 1>was somehow and in New York. And you know, I

0:35:15.596 --> 0:35:18.036
<v Speaker 1>had a really cool time too, for not only for acting,

0:35:18.036 --> 0:35:19.796
<v Speaker 1>but music, you know. I mean you could still go

0:35:19.836 --> 0:35:23.076
<v Speaker 1>into any jazz club and see incredible people, or go

0:35:23.156 --> 0:35:26.796
<v Speaker 1>to Glench Village and you know insane. Yeah. Yeah, what

0:35:26.836 --> 0:35:29.036
<v Speaker 1>would you do like on off nights when you weren't

0:35:29.076 --> 0:35:32.716
<v Speaker 1>working in New York City. Well, I wish i'd, like

0:35:32.836 --> 0:35:36.476
<v Speaker 1>I said about my you know now, you know, encounter

0:35:36.596 --> 0:35:39.436
<v Speaker 1>with some people. Sometimes I didn't know who I was

0:35:39.476 --> 0:35:42.676
<v Speaker 1>with or where I was. I wish I'd looked around

0:35:42.716 --> 0:35:44.996
<v Speaker 1>more because I was a very focused kind of acting student,

0:35:45.356 --> 0:35:47.236
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I had things to do and I

0:35:47.276 --> 0:35:50.556
<v Speaker 1>was very good at that that point. But my friend

0:35:50.596 --> 0:35:52.836
<v Speaker 1>Tom Pearson, who was in who was the leader of

0:35:52.836 --> 0:35:56.436
<v Speaker 1>the band and a piano player, took me to a

0:35:56.476 --> 0:35:58.796
<v Speaker 1>couple of gigs and I remember I think we saw

0:35:59.316 --> 0:36:03.436
<v Speaker 1>Wayne Shorter and saw some very kind of you know,

0:36:03.916 --> 0:36:06.276
<v Speaker 1>new stuff that they were doing that was you know,

0:36:06.876 --> 0:36:12.356
<v Speaker 1>atonal and went on and that was really something else

0:36:12.956 --> 0:36:17.316
<v Speaker 1>were we were there. Yeah, yeah, I wish i'd I

0:36:17.316 --> 0:36:20.596
<v Speaker 1>could have appreciated where I was more and everything that

0:36:20.636 --> 0:36:23.756
<v Speaker 1>I might have exposed myself to more. Probably just like now,

0:36:24.036 --> 0:36:27.676
<v Speaker 1>there's probably right in my own backyard things that if

0:36:27.716 --> 0:36:33.236
<v Speaker 1>I were fully awake, fully awakened, I would cherish investigate

0:36:33.356 --> 0:36:36.596
<v Speaker 1>and understand more. You know, I'm sure there are things

0:36:36.636 --> 0:36:38.996
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, well that goes back to the b here.

0:36:39.036 --> 0:36:41.516
<v Speaker 1>Now you're just supposed to be happy here in the

0:36:41.596 --> 0:36:46.316
<v Speaker 1>moment present, where you are. It's all enough, I think, so.

0:36:46.716 --> 0:36:51.196
<v Speaker 1>I think so we're getting exactly what we need right

0:36:51.316 --> 0:36:55.436
<v Speaker 1>here right now somehow. Yep. What drove you to acting,

0:36:55.516 --> 0:36:59.396
<v Speaker 1>primarily given your sort of early leanings towards piano and

0:36:59.516 --> 0:37:02.876
<v Speaker 1>music and performing with you know, at these bars. Yeah,

0:37:02.956 --> 0:37:06.076
<v Speaker 1>it's a little mysterious. All of this is a little mysterious.

0:37:06.116 --> 0:37:10.076
<v Speaker 1>I just was I are my parents once again, you know,

0:37:10.116 --> 0:37:13.956
<v Speaker 1>exposed us to you know, theater. We went to children's theater.

0:37:13.996 --> 0:37:15.916
<v Speaker 1>I remember early on when I went to at the

0:37:15.956 --> 0:37:21.356
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Playhouse. Uh, some a couple of shows, you know

0:37:21.636 --> 0:37:23.756
<v Speaker 1>for kids, I don't know, Beauty and the Beast or

0:37:23.876 --> 0:37:28.396
<v Speaker 1>you know, something like that. I just was very excitable

0:37:28.916 --> 0:37:35.036
<v Speaker 1>about because of it. And uh and I remember thinking,

0:37:35.436 --> 0:37:37.836
<v Speaker 1>who are those people who are doing that? What are

0:37:37.876 --> 0:37:40.396
<v Speaker 1>they doing backstage? What's how do how do you do

0:37:40.476 --> 0:37:43.236
<v Speaker 1>something like that? And that you know, it just happened

0:37:43.276 --> 0:37:45.276
<v Speaker 1>like that, and then uh, well I took those summer

0:37:45.316 --> 0:37:51.556
<v Speaker 1>classes Attornegue Million University. I was already yearning for some

0:37:51.756 --> 0:37:56.476
<v Speaker 1>kind of part of me that was as yet unexplored

0:37:57.196 --> 0:38:00.716
<v Speaker 1>in this, like I say, small town kind of school.

0:38:01.276 --> 0:38:03.636
<v Speaker 1>And I think it had something to do with listen

0:38:03.676 --> 0:38:08.956
<v Speaker 1>to this. My parents had had parts of them unexplored,

0:38:09.596 --> 0:38:15.276
<v Speaker 1>potentially unrealized, that were theatrical. My mom early on had

0:38:15.316 --> 0:38:19.236
<v Speaker 1>some kind of experience where a scout of some kind

0:38:19.396 --> 0:38:22.436
<v Speaker 1>said she should, you know, leave Pittsburgh go to New

0:38:22.516 --> 0:38:24.316
<v Speaker 1>York And her mom said no, no way that I

0:38:24.356 --> 0:38:27.276
<v Speaker 1>don't know. And then my dad, at some point in

0:38:27.436 --> 0:38:30.436
<v Speaker 1>his you know, the late teens, thought, because he was

0:38:30.476 --> 0:38:33.076
<v Speaker 1>trying to get out of poverty and make something of himself,

0:38:33.476 --> 0:38:35.796
<v Speaker 1>thought for some reason he was either going to be

0:38:35.836 --> 0:38:38.556
<v Speaker 1>a doctor or an actor. And he said he stuck

0:38:38.596 --> 0:38:41.196
<v Speaker 1>his head in the back of a class at Carnegie Tech,

0:38:41.356 --> 0:38:44.796
<v Speaker 1>which Carnegie Mellon was then called, and he thought to himself.

0:38:44.796 --> 0:38:47.956
<v Speaker 1>He reported to us that it was out of his league.

0:38:47.996 --> 0:38:50.716
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he meant by that. Maybe it

0:38:50.396 --> 0:38:52.636
<v Speaker 1>was that it was emotionally, because he was always a

0:38:52.636 --> 0:38:56.156
<v Speaker 1>little bit conservative emotionally, I think, even though an authentic

0:38:56.196 --> 0:39:00.116
<v Speaker 1>person of deep feeling, you know, he was not theatrical.

0:39:00.196 --> 0:39:02.556
<v Speaker 1>He thought maybe and so he was a doctor. He

0:39:02.556 --> 0:39:05.236
<v Speaker 1>became a good doctor, h and like that. So maybe

0:39:05.316 --> 0:39:10.156
<v Speaker 1>the lost you know, hot potatoes of unreal used talent

0:39:10.876 --> 0:39:14.276
<v Speaker 1>and interest. It came to me somehow, and maybe that

0:39:14.356 --> 0:39:15.996
<v Speaker 1>had something to do with it. You know, who knows.

0:39:16.356 --> 0:39:18.476
<v Speaker 1>Do you think your parents saw it the same way?

0:39:18.636 --> 0:39:21.556
<v Speaker 1>Like you were living out this dream that they had

0:39:21.636 --> 0:39:24.556
<v Speaker 1>in a way, And they never said, if I can

0:39:24.596 --> 0:39:28.556
<v Speaker 1>remember rightly, I don't ever recall a conversation where they said, hey,

0:39:29.316 --> 0:39:31.796
<v Speaker 1>you know, we didn't do it, but you do it

0:39:32.036 --> 0:39:33.716
<v Speaker 1>or you know. And I don't think it was a

0:39:33.756 --> 0:39:37.036
<v Speaker 1>conspicuous and ever present part of their current adult life

0:39:37.036 --> 0:39:39.116
<v Speaker 1>where they were like, oh, I should have been an actor.

0:39:39.196 --> 0:39:41.916
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they thought that. So it never came

0:39:41.996 --> 0:39:43.796
<v Speaker 1>up like that. And I don't know if it ever

0:39:43.836 --> 0:39:46.236
<v Speaker 1>even accurac to them or they said to themselves. But

0:39:46.596 --> 0:39:49.476
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you this, they were both kind of tickled

0:39:50.396 --> 0:39:54.076
<v Speaker 1>by the idea that I was doing some of this stuff.

0:39:54.116 --> 0:39:56.116
<v Speaker 1>And like I say, music, you know, my dad was like,

0:39:56.156 --> 0:39:58.796
<v Speaker 1>you know, listen to Errol Garner. Listen, listen, he likes

0:39:58.836 --> 0:40:01.316
<v Speaker 1>the pauses, and listen how brave he is there, and

0:40:01.356 --> 0:40:03.916
<v Speaker 1>it would go bah baha and these octaves that he

0:40:04.036 --> 0:40:06.196
<v Speaker 1>kind of knew he had a music appreciation and a

0:40:06.836 --> 0:40:10.116
<v Speaker 1>real kind of appetite for it. And so you know

0:40:10.156 --> 0:40:12.116
<v Speaker 1>that when they drove me and I could see, you know,

0:40:12.196 --> 0:40:14.516
<v Speaker 1>they were I'm sure grinning, you know, at me playing

0:40:14.516 --> 0:40:17.076
<v Speaker 1>at these cocktail lounges. And then a couple of years later,

0:40:17.156 --> 0:40:19.636
<v Speaker 1>once I was in New York and did one of

0:40:19.636 --> 0:40:22.236
<v Speaker 1>my early plays. I did a play called City Sugar.

0:40:22.356 --> 0:40:25.156
<v Speaker 1>It was by Stephen Poliakoff, a British writer where I

0:40:25.236 --> 0:40:27.556
<v Speaker 1>was the lead character and a kind of off Broadway

0:40:28.356 --> 0:40:31.276
<v Speaker 1>theater and it was the first big part that I'd had,

0:40:31.556 --> 0:40:34.116
<v Speaker 1>and my dad and they, my parents came to see it.

0:40:34.556 --> 0:40:40.316
<v Speaker 1>And after the show, my dad came back stage and

0:40:40.476 --> 0:40:44.516
<v Speaker 1>he burst into tears and he threw his arms around

0:40:44.676 --> 0:40:48.356
<v Speaker 1>me and hugged me. And it wasn't either of those things,

0:40:48.836 --> 0:40:52.196
<v Speaker 1>the tears part and the hugging part were. It's uncharacteristic

0:40:52.836 --> 0:40:56.396
<v Speaker 1>and it really it really got him. And now that

0:40:56.436 --> 0:40:58.396
<v Speaker 1>i'm thinking of it, when I was, when I was

0:40:59.116 --> 0:41:04.916
<v Speaker 1>going to Carnegie Melon and coming back, he said a

0:41:05.036 --> 0:41:08.476
<v Speaker 1>very memorable moment for me. He said, I was there

0:41:08.556 --> 0:41:12.276
<v Speaker 1>and he said to my mom, well, look, as I

0:41:12.316 --> 0:41:13.836
<v Speaker 1>was saying, oh, this is what we learned that I

0:41:14.676 --> 0:41:17.916
<v Speaker 1>was kind of chattering up. He said, look, the kid

0:41:18.036 --> 0:41:23.116
<v Speaker 1>is stimulated. He said, the kid is stimulated. And I

0:41:23.236 --> 0:41:25.996
<v Speaker 1>remember that. I think it. I think he appreciated because

0:41:25.996 --> 0:41:27.636
<v Speaker 1>he had said to me, he had said, you know,

0:41:27.716 --> 0:41:29.116
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what you do. You don't have to

0:41:29.116 --> 0:41:31.276
<v Speaker 1>be a doctor like me, but if you find something

0:41:31.316 --> 0:41:34.196
<v Speaker 1>you love to do, that's a compass and a key

0:41:34.236 --> 0:41:37.596
<v Speaker 1>to your uh you know, vocational choice. So he was

0:41:37.636 --> 0:41:41.396
<v Speaker 1>smart and uh and he realized that that that I'd

0:41:41.436 --> 0:41:44.956
<v Speaker 1>sort of found something. Yeah about that, the soulful guy,

0:41:44.996 --> 0:41:46.836
<v Speaker 1>your dad was especially for a doctor. You know, you

0:41:46.836 --> 0:41:50.076
<v Speaker 1>don't think of a doctor's being so open and disencouraging

0:41:50.156 --> 0:41:52.676
<v Speaker 1>and to hear this stuff in the music and explain

0:41:52.716 --> 0:41:54.356
<v Speaker 1>it to you and take the time. Yeah, he was

0:41:54.396 --> 0:41:58.996
<v Speaker 1>actually very lucky, you know, very grateful for the parents

0:41:58.996 --> 0:42:00.396
<v Speaker 1>that I had. You know, it's not as if I've

0:42:00.516 --> 0:42:04.636
<v Speaker 1>gone through my life without oh, you know, dark struggles

0:42:04.636 --> 0:42:07.156
<v Speaker 1>of one kind or another, and I think healthy struggles

0:42:07.156 --> 0:42:11.516
<v Speaker 1>where I'd find my own separate identity from theirs. But

0:42:11.756 --> 0:42:15.316
<v Speaker 1>in fact, I'm very grateful for those two parents. They

0:42:15.316 --> 0:42:18.636
<v Speaker 1>were just the right combo for for me to have

0:42:18.676 --> 0:42:22.156
<v Speaker 1>wound up right here, right now. And uh and yeah,

0:42:22.196 --> 0:42:26.076
<v Speaker 1>he was, you know, for in any objective way, kind

0:42:26.076 --> 0:42:32.156
<v Speaker 1>of sophisticated, soulful uh wi. Uh wise, fella, how about that?

0:42:32.356 --> 0:42:36.516
<v Speaker 1>And very generous. Uh sweet, sweet guy, that's amazing. Do

0:42:36.556 --> 0:42:38.316
<v Speaker 1>you are you writing at all? Do you do you

0:42:38.316 --> 0:42:43.076
<v Speaker 1>ever are secretly composing any songs or anything unrealized? Do

0:42:43.116 --> 0:42:46.596
<v Speaker 1>you want to na? Not? Really, I don't really compose.

0:42:46.676 --> 0:42:54.276
<v Speaker 1>I don't really compose, although I must say the other day. Uh, Charlie.

0:42:54.436 --> 0:42:56.396
<v Speaker 1>We sat down and he brought me a couple of

0:42:56.996 --> 0:42:59.796
<v Speaker 1>blank sheets of you know, like a you know, printer paper,

0:43:00.236 --> 0:43:02.636
<v Speaker 1>and he said here right. Uh. He didn't know how

0:43:02.636 --> 0:43:04.796
<v Speaker 1>to say right or right music right. Let's let's make

0:43:04.876 --> 0:43:07.716
<v Speaker 1>up a song, uh, he said. So I wrote a staff.

0:43:07.796 --> 0:43:10.556
<v Speaker 1>I put the trouble cleft and I wrote the staff,

0:43:10.596 --> 0:43:12.836
<v Speaker 1>and he's and he did something and I wrote it down,

0:43:13.396 --> 0:43:15.476
<v Speaker 1>and then I added something to that, and then he

0:43:15.516 --> 0:43:17.396
<v Speaker 1>added something to that, and I wrote it all down.

0:43:17.436 --> 0:43:19.436
<v Speaker 1>It's on the piano in the living room right now,

0:43:19.996 --> 0:43:23.316
<v Speaker 1>and I like playing it. It's it's different. I wouldn't

0:43:23.356 --> 0:43:25.196
<v Speaker 1>have come up with it on my own. It's a

0:43:25.196 --> 0:43:27.156
<v Speaker 1>little I don't think we're letting a McCartney. But we

0:43:27.596 --> 0:43:29.276
<v Speaker 1>came up with something. It was fun. It's this a

0:43:29.316 --> 0:43:32.716
<v Speaker 1>side project. This is your new band. It was fun. Well,

0:43:32.756 --> 0:43:35.236
<v Speaker 1>we we like playing together. I got a couple of drums.

0:43:35.236 --> 0:43:37.916
<v Speaker 1>I got sbongo drums and a nice kind of conga

0:43:37.956 --> 0:43:40.876
<v Speaker 1>and and we all make sounds together. We like it.

0:43:41.036 --> 0:43:44.396
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. If you had to put together a jazz

0:43:44.476 --> 0:43:48.476
<v Speaker 1>starter kit, which albums would it include? Well, that's a

0:43:48.596 --> 0:43:51.436
<v Speaker 1>good that's a good question. The guy I you know,

0:43:51.476 --> 0:43:54.996
<v Speaker 1>i'd i'd ask the guy for real, for the real

0:43:55.476 --> 0:43:58.356
<v Speaker 1>good answers. I'd ask Joe Bag and Alex Frank and

0:43:58.636 --> 0:44:03.236
<v Speaker 1>John Story. But let me see from my own personal experience. Well,

0:44:03.796 --> 0:44:06.836
<v Speaker 1>you know, because they're still turning me onto. You know,

0:44:06.876 --> 0:44:10.036
<v Speaker 1>Winton Kelly. I'm learning a solo of Wint Kelly's right now,

0:44:11.156 --> 0:44:14.396
<v Speaker 1>and I had not been so focused on him before.

0:44:14.436 --> 0:44:17.756
<v Speaker 1>So there's so many But you know, Oscar Peterson, if

0:44:17.756 --> 0:44:20.236
<v Speaker 1>you're interested in the piano, I'd listened to Oscar Peterson

0:44:20.236 --> 0:44:22.676
<v Speaker 1>and Bill Evans, and I like Keith Jarrett, and I

0:44:22.716 --> 0:44:27.676
<v Speaker 1>like Thelonious Monk. Anything by any of those guys. I

0:44:27.716 --> 0:44:31.436
<v Speaker 1>like She's You know, there's so many tributaries of that river.

0:44:31.636 --> 0:44:33.796
<v Speaker 1>You know that you can go down to kind of

0:44:33.796 --> 0:44:36.836
<v Speaker 1>personal taste, and you know, like I say, I'm still

0:44:36.836 --> 0:44:40.236
<v Speaker 1>getting turned on to so many different things now. But

0:44:40.276 --> 0:44:43.076
<v Speaker 1>though you know, Miles Davis, you know I do love

0:44:43.556 --> 0:44:47.276
<v Speaker 1>those those piano players, Oscar Peterson, Errold Gardner, Diloneous Monk,

0:44:47.316 --> 0:44:51.596
<v Speaker 1>all pretty different. Do you Is there anything you think

0:44:51.636 --> 0:44:53.636
<v Speaker 1>you taken from their playing you put in yours or

0:44:53.676 --> 0:44:55.716
<v Speaker 1>anything you ever playing And you're like, oh that I

0:44:55.756 --> 0:44:59.156
<v Speaker 1>got that from Oscar Well, Arlie Well, Oscar Peterson. You know,

0:44:59.196 --> 0:45:01.196
<v Speaker 1>you have to be content to get those chops. You know,

0:45:01.276 --> 0:45:03.916
<v Speaker 1>you can't just kind of even imitate those chops. But

0:45:03.996 --> 0:45:06.316
<v Speaker 1>I do like to do runs, and I do like

0:45:06.396 --> 0:45:09.636
<v Speaker 1>a couple of his Gospelly kind of voice things that

0:45:10.156 --> 0:45:12.356
<v Speaker 1>I've sort of tried to study a little bit that

0:45:12.436 --> 0:45:15.916
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I I love to listen and when

0:45:15.916 --> 0:45:19.916
<v Speaker 1>I listen, I feel like I'm immediately not that I

0:45:19.996 --> 0:45:23.716
<v Speaker 1>can reproduce it, but I'm immediately you know, influenced and

0:45:23.796 --> 0:45:26.476
<v Speaker 1>excited about it. And then Monk, of course, you know,

0:45:26.836 --> 0:45:31.676
<v Speaker 1>I like to play a hard, masculine, angular, unexpected fifth

0:45:32.076 --> 0:45:37.116
<v Speaker 1>down low and do something you know that's full of

0:45:37.196 --> 0:45:41.156
<v Speaker 1>ugly beauty, you know, all over, you know. And he's

0:45:41.276 --> 0:45:46.236
<v Speaker 1>very inspirational. Keith Jarrett, Oh the way he I like

0:45:46.356 --> 0:45:52.156
<v Speaker 1>the way he is has a kind of religious experience

0:45:52.556 --> 0:45:56.196
<v Speaker 1>that comes deeply out of him. And he's so sophisticated

0:45:56.196 --> 0:46:02.476
<v Speaker 1>and at the same time, you know, spontaneous with what

0:46:02.716 --> 0:46:07.436
<v Speaker 1>with a connection seemingly between his musical imagination and his

0:46:07.596 --> 0:46:13.516
<v Speaker 1>fingers and he hears, which is so brilliant. You know immediately,

0:46:14.236 --> 0:46:16.956
<v Speaker 1>you know, making music like that, it's a beautiful thing

0:46:16.956 --> 0:46:19.516
<v Speaker 1>to watch, you know, I love it. Have you have

0:46:19.516 --> 0:46:22.436
<v Speaker 1>you seen him at all? Ever? No, I'd love to

0:46:23.076 --> 0:46:26.036
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to you. Yeah. Some of the Concert Hall

0:46:26.076 --> 0:46:28.396
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six when I was like sixteen,

0:46:28.516 --> 0:46:31.276
<v Speaker 1>saved a bunch of months. It was expensive, but about

0:46:31.276 --> 0:46:33.636
<v Speaker 1>a ticket went and it was it was solo and

0:46:33.796 --> 0:46:36.556
<v Speaker 1>improbably did a solo improv and it was it was

0:46:36.596 --> 0:46:39.876
<v Speaker 1>mind blowing. Oh, mind blind. I'd love to have seen that.

0:46:39.916 --> 0:46:42.116
<v Speaker 1>If I had a time machine, maybe that's that's the

0:46:42.156 --> 0:46:44.436
<v Speaker 1>reason to go back. I'd go back with you and

0:46:44.436 --> 0:46:47.476
<v Speaker 1>we'd watch it again. Cool. I'm so curious about this.

0:46:47.516 --> 0:46:50.956
<v Speaker 1>I've heard you refer to yourself as a late bloomer. Well,

0:46:50.956 --> 0:46:54.636
<v Speaker 1>true enough, yeah, yeah, So how does that manifest itself?

0:46:54.956 --> 0:46:58.076
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean to you? How are you blooming? Well?

0:46:58.436 --> 0:47:00.636
<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, first of all, here I am

0:47:00.676 --> 0:47:03.836
<v Speaker 1>at the age I'm at and I've have a five

0:47:03.916 --> 0:47:05.716
<v Speaker 1>year old and three almost a five year old and

0:47:05.756 --> 0:47:11.116
<v Speaker 1>a three year old, so that's late blooming and fertility

0:47:11.116 --> 0:47:17.156
<v Speaker 1>of some kind. And my teacher, Sanford Meisner, was very good.

0:47:17.156 --> 0:47:22.396
<v Speaker 1>He said that it takes a serious two decades, twenty

0:47:22.476 --> 0:47:26.436
<v Speaker 1>years of continual work before you can even call yourself

0:47:26.476 --> 0:47:30.236
<v Speaker 1>an actor, meaning that you it really takes that much

0:47:30.276 --> 0:47:35.036
<v Speaker 1>time before you can grow in yourself inside the life

0:47:35.796 --> 0:47:40.476
<v Speaker 1>of an actor and how you really live and use

0:47:40.556 --> 0:47:45.876
<v Speaker 1>things and see things and can function theatrically imaginatively and

0:47:46.076 --> 0:47:49.796
<v Speaker 1>know yourself and can use yourself, etcetera, etcetera. And then

0:47:50.036 --> 0:47:53.436
<v Speaker 1>he said after that, it takes a life time if

0:47:53.476 --> 0:47:58.476
<v Speaker 1>you're lucky, to keep getting opportunities of progress where you

0:47:58.516 --> 0:48:01.036
<v Speaker 1>can keep progressing. And that's the aim. That's what I'm

0:48:01.596 --> 0:48:03.716
<v Speaker 1>recommend to you and steady, And I think I took

0:48:03.756 --> 0:48:06.396
<v Speaker 1>that to heart. So even if I wasn't made of

0:48:06.396 --> 0:48:08.596
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff, although I think I was a

0:48:08.716 --> 0:48:12.476
<v Speaker 1>kind of slow learner of some kind, and you know,

0:48:13.356 --> 0:48:15.876
<v Speaker 1>I took it to heart and have sort of at

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<v Speaker 1>least imagine that I have designed. But there's some design

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little bit like that for my arc, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not only acting wise, but musically certainly. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at a time right now of more flourishing and flowering

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<v Speaker 1>than ever with these records and with what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm playing better than ever. I played this morning, better

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<v Speaker 1>than I played yesterday, and ever. I think I look

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<v Speaker 1>for that, and I think I'm that's what's happening. And

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<v Speaker 1>in life, my gosh, here I am with these kids

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<v Speaker 1>and learning by leaps and bounds, and I've got this

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<v Speaker 1>show that world, according to Jeff Goldblum, where I'm ostensibly

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<v Speaker 1>to make use of my curiosity and my you know learning,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, exposing myself while in the learning curve.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm I'm full of I'm a humble student

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<v Speaker 1>and full of eager learning. So I am I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I think I'm blooming late. Yeah, it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's super inspiring because so many people just reach a

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<v Speaker 1>certain age or point in life and just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>shut down, you know, and whether it's shutting down to

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<v Speaker 1>like even discovering new music or anything. It's people can

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<v Speaker 1>get so rigid. Yeah, so it's it's really nice to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that. Oh, thank you. Well, I was exposed to

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<v Speaker 1>have the right idea here and there, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>aspire to it, and and uh, you know, I try

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<v Speaker 1>to lend. I'm sure I'm becoming brittle and and shriveled

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<v Speaker 1>and pretty soon I'll be all all gone. But but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the time that I have, however much

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<v Speaker 1>it is, I'm trying to supremely make the most of

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<v Speaker 1>the and cherish the opportunity. You know, cool, incredible. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for the time. I really appreciate it, Jeff, Thank you, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. It's such an honor to be

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<v Speaker 1>on this great show. I'm thrilled. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Jeff Goldbloom for chatting with Lee yet night.

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