1 00:00:15,436 --> 00:00:28,276 Speaker 1: Pushkin. I love Jeff Goldblum. Over a fifty year acting career, 2 00:00:28,476 --> 00:00:32,956 Speaker 1: He's played unforgettable roles like the snarky scientist in Jurassic Park, 3 00:00:33,316 --> 00:00:35,436 Speaker 1: he saved the world from an alien invasion with Will 4 00:00:35,516 --> 00:00:38,796 Speaker 1: Smith in Independence Day, and most recently, he was Incredible 5 00:00:39,036 --> 00:00:42,396 Speaker 1: and Thor Ragnarok. Next year he'll being the newest installment 6 00:00:42,396 --> 00:00:45,276 Speaker 1: of Jurassic Park. And Jeff even has his own show 7 00:00:45,316 --> 00:00:48,156 Speaker 1: on Disney Plus. But the one place I didn't expect 8 00:00:48,196 --> 00:00:51,636 Speaker 1: him to show up was in jazz. Jeff Goldblum is 9 00:00:51,676 --> 00:00:55,716 Speaker 1: a surprisingly dedicated jazz pianist. He played a weekly gig 10 00:00:55,756 --> 00:00:59,196 Speaker 1: in La with his band, The Mildred Snitzer Orchestra until 11 00:00:59,236 --> 00:01:17,916 Speaker 1: the pandemic, and he still practices every morning. He's released 12 00:01:17,916 --> 00:01:21,036 Speaker 1: two albums with this band. Their latest is I Shouldn't 13 00:01:21,116 --> 00:01:24,956 Speaker 1: Be telling You This, featuring vocals from Gregory Porter, Fiona Apple, 14 00:01:25,236 --> 00:01:28,836 Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus and Moore. And before you start thinking this 15 00:01:28,916 --> 00:01:32,476 Speaker 1: is just a celebrity vanity project, it's not justin playing 16 00:01:32,516 --> 00:01:36,036 Speaker 1: around for thirty years and clubs and bars. Broken record 17 00:01:36,036 --> 00:01:38,756 Speaker 1: producer Leah Rose and I talked to Jeff on Zoom 18 00:01:38,796 --> 00:01:41,596 Speaker 1: about his career as a musician. He told us about 19 00:01:41,636 --> 00:01:44,636 Speaker 1: how we started playing piano in Pittsburgh. Cocktail lounges at 20 00:01:44,676 --> 00:01:48,956 Speaker 1: fifteen about his morning practice routine, and he tells us 21 00:01:48,996 --> 00:01:53,316 Speaker 1: about meeting two of his heroes, Stevie Wonder and Muhammad Ali. 22 00:01:57,756 --> 00:02:00,436 Speaker 1: This is broken record liner notes for the Digital Age. 23 00:02:00,636 --> 00:02:08,516 Speaker 1: I'm justin Richmondson. Here's Leah Rose and me in conversation 24 00:02:08,876 --> 00:02:13,316 Speaker 1: with Jeff Goldblum. Hi Justin, Hey Hilia Rose, thanks for 25 00:02:13,396 --> 00:02:17,636 Speaker 1: doing this. Oh my pleasure, your kidding. I'm honored and thrilled. Hey, 26 00:02:17,676 --> 00:02:19,556 Speaker 1: I saw. I just was listening to a little bit 27 00:02:19,596 --> 00:02:24,236 Speaker 1: of your podcast with Esperanza Spalding. Yeah, isn't she incredible? 28 00:02:24,716 --> 00:02:28,356 Speaker 1: So incredible? And I met her. I was invited because 29 00:02:28,396 --> 00:02:31,876 Speaker 1: I know a little bit Wayne Shorter and his wife, 30 00:02:31,916 --> 00:02:34,796 Speaker 1: so I so I was invited to their house, to 31 00:02:34,956 --> 00:02:38,356 Speaker 1: his house and saw a little bit of a presentation 32 00:02:38,436 --> 00:02:41,396 Speaker 1: of what they're working on now that their opera. Yeah, 33 00:02:41,436 --> 00:02:45,036 Speaker 1: their opera, and she it just it was great. Yeah. 34 00:02:45,036 --> 00:02:48,316 Speaker 1: And she wears those life Force suits. She has like 35 00:02:48,436 --> 00:02:50,476 Speaker 1: ten of them, and she wears it every single day. 36 00:02:50,676 --> 00:02:52,316 Speaker 1: So she gets that out of the way. She doesn't 37 00:02:52,316 --> 00:02:54,956 Speaker 1: have to worry about how she looks, what she puts on. 38 00:02:55,596 --> 00:02:58,356 Speaker 1: Just like, I think Einstein did that, and my character 39 00:02:58,396 --> 00:03:01,156 Speaker 1: in The Fly did that. I show Gina Davis my 40 00:03:01,236 --> 00:03:03,996 Speaker 1: closet at some point I've got five herring bone jackets 41 00:03:03,996 --> 00:03:05,876 Speaker 1: and I say, yeah, I don't want to have to 42 00:03:05,876 --> 00:03:08,076 Speaker 1: think about what I'm putting on. Yeah, that's like the 43 00:03:08,116 --> 00:03:12,436 Speaker 1: Steve Jobs thing too. Yeah, same thing. Well, oh you 44 00:03:12,516 --> 00:03:16,596 Speaker 1: know all of us, Uh cookie, I'm not like that 45 00:03:16,676 --> 00:03:19,596 Speaker 1: in real life. I'm just kind of a regular thencome 46 00:03:19,596 --> 00:03:21,916 Speaker 1: phoop in real life. Oh come on. Well, I don't 47 00:03:21,916 --> 00:03:25,396 Speaker 1: know about that. But I was at the Grove about 48 00:03:25,396 --> 00:03:27,476 Speaker 1: twelve years ago. Um. It must have been right before 49 00:03:27,516 --> 00:03:29,476 Speaker 1: Christmas time, because they were there was like there's a 50 00:03:29,516 --> 00:03:31,956 Speaker 1: Christmas tree setting up, and I was there and I 51 00:03:31,996 --> 00:03:34,436 Speaker 1: was like, wait a second, it is that Jeff Goldbom 52 00:03:34,436 --> 00:03:36,836 Speaker 1: and you were rehearsing. I wasn't there for the big thing, 53 00:03:36,876 --> 00:03:38,956 Speaker 1: but you were rehearsing earlier in that afternoon. I was like, 54 00:03:39,436 --> 00:03:43,036 Speaker 1: holy shit, he plays Pia and you were like, really good. 55 00:03:43,236 --> 00:03:45,676 Speaker 1: I'll be darned, that's the I know exactly what you're 56 00:03:45,716 --> 00:03:47,556 Speaker 1: talking about. That's the only time we ever played the 57 00:03:47,676 --> 00:03:50,316 Speaker 1: Grove like that, But we played something there and you 58 00:03:50,316 --> 00:03:53,516 Speaker 1: know who else was on that bill? Was Bert backrack, Oh, 59 00:03:53,556 --> 00:03:56,876 Speaker 1: I miss Bert, Yeah, man. They asked us to be 60 00:03:56,916 --> 00:03:59,996 Speaker 1: part of this you know, tree lighting ceremony or Christmas 61 00:04:00,076 --> 00:04:01,596 Speaker 1: eve thing or I don't know what it was where 62 00:04:01,636 --> 00:04:04,956 Speaker 1: we played some Christmas song we just took came out 63 00:04:04,956 --> 00:04:08,116 Speaker 1: with a Christmas song. Now you know you can you 64 00:04:08,156 --> 00:04:11,476 Speaker 1: can law gone and get Winter Wonderland. We do a 65 00:04:11,556 --> 00:04:15,836 Speaker 1: nice little version you know about za. I like that 66 00:04:15,916 --> 00:04:19,396 Speaker 1: what we did? How about that? I later saw you 67 00:04:19,556 --> 00:04:22,476 Speaker 1: at Rockwell, like when did you start performing again? Like 68 00:04:22,516 --> 00:04:24,836 Speaker 1: when did you start getting out and putting a band 69 00:04:24,836 --> 00:04:28,596 Speaker 1: together and playing? About thirty years ago? Now it's been 70 00:04:28,636 --> 00:04:31,436 Speaker 1: three decades where my friend John Mastro and I here's 71 00:04:31,436 --> 00:04:34,676 Speaker 1: what happened. Peter Weller said, hey, let's play out and about. 72 00:04:34,716 --> 00:04:36,876 Speaker 1: We've been fooling around at my house. He plays trump 73 00:04:36,916 --> 00:04:40,516 Speaker 1: a little bit and not nicely, very nicely, and we 74 00:04:40,636 --> 00:04:43,316 Speaker 1: did that, and then he got the idea we should 75 00:04:43,316 --> 00:04:45,036 Speaker 1: play out and about. So we had a there was 76 00:04:45,396 --> 00:04:48,036 Speaker 1: a lovely guitar player that he knew and a place 77 00:04:48,116 --> 00:04:50,756 Speaker 1: that he said they'd let us set our stuff up 78 00:04:51,036 --> 00:04:53,596 Speaker 1: and play during brunch or something like that, and we 79 00:04:53,596 --> 00:04:56,716 Speaker 1: started to play out and about and and then he's 80 00:04:56,756 --> 00:04:58,396 Speaker 1: gone off and done other things, but we had this 81 00:04:58,516 --> 00:05:02,196 Speaker 1: band that grew, and whenever I've not been working, I 82 00:05:02,356 --> 00:05:06,356 Speaker 1: keep doing it. And now it's even before we did 83 00:05:06,396 --> 00:05:08,516 Speaker 1: these records, it's sort of developed. We've been playing at 84 00:05:08,516 --> 00:05:10,676 Speaker 1: this place rock Well where you saw us like for 85 00:05:10,676 --> 00:05:12,316 Speaker 1: the last I don't know, six or seven or eight 86 00:05:12,396 --> 00:05:14,996 Speaker 1: years or something, whenever I'm not working once a week, 87 00:05:15,436 --> 00:05:18,396 Speaker 1: and so as much acting as I do, I've now 88 00:05:18,596 --> 00:05:21,476 Speaker 1: clocked as many hours of so called performance, but it 89 00:05:21,476 --> 00:05:24,276 Speaker 1: always just feels like a hanging out and playing and 90 00:05:24,316 --> 00:05:26,956 Speaker 1: rehearsing publicly, and I just kind of adore it, you know, 91 00:05:27,036 --> 00:05:30,356 Speaker 1: more than anything else. And now it's become a show, 92 00:05:30,476 --> 00:05:32,956 Speaker 1: a show that we do in theaters, big theaters. We 93 00:05:32,996 --> 00:05:35,796 Speaker 1: did the Glastonbury Festival, and go all over and it 94 00:05:35,876 --> 00:05:40,876 Speaker 1: kind of translates itself wherever we go where we play 95 00:05:41,236 --> 00:05:44,436 Speaker 1: stuff that now we kind of cook up and the 96 00:05:44,436 --> 00:05:48,516 Speaker 1: band is really good. And then I do spontaneous games 97 00:05:48,556 --> 00:05:52,516 Speaker 1: and talking and you know, gold bloom stuff with people. 98 00:05:53,276 --> 00:05:57,396 Speaker 1: And why the piano, why is that your instrument of choice? Well, 99 00:05:58,076 --> 00:05:59,916 Speaker 1: I'm not one of those guys who've ever had much 100 00:05:59,956 --> 00:06:04,996 Speaker 1: of a facility for anything else. I like to drum 101 00:06:05,036 --> 00:06:07,356 Speaker 1: on things and I like the piano, and you know, 102 00:06:07,476 --> 00:06:09,836 Speaker 1: to the extent that it's percussive, you know, so I 103 00:06:09,876 --> 00:06:12,036 Speaker 1: like to I like tap dance, and I was always 104 00:06:12,036 --> 00:06:16,156 Speaker 1: interested in making making rhythms, but the piano was just 105 00:06:16,196 --> 00:06:18,356 Speaker 1: something that was around our house. I grew up in 106 00:06:18,396 --> 00:06:22,036 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and we had a piano there, and then they 107 00:06:22,116 --> 00:06:25,316 Speaker 1: gave us lessons. You know. My mom was dutifully, you know, 108 00:06:25,556 --> 00:06:29,356 Speaker 1: good about exposing us to things that might interest us, 109 00:06:29,396 --> 00:06:31,556 Speaker 1: and she gave us all lessons. My brother had a 110 00:06:31,596 --> 00:06:34,596 Speaker 1: clarinet for a little bit, but we had a piano, 111 00:06:34,716 --> 00:06:38,236 Speaker 1: and I had some facility for it, but we didn't 112 00:06:38,276 --> 00:06:41,236 Speaker 1: know the joys of discipline yet would dread the lessons. 113 00:06:41,316 --> 00:06:44,156 Speaker 1: And Tommy Emil coming over and I hadn't practiced, and 114 00:06:44,236 --> 00:06:46,076 Speaker 1: da da da dadada. But then he gave me a 115 00:06:46,076 --> 00:06:50,316 Speaker 1: piece of music, an arrangement that I learned because I'd 116 00:06:50,396 --> 00:06:53,036 Speaker 1: learned how to read music of Alley Cat and I 117 00:06:53,196 --> 00:06:59,236 Speaker 1: first sort of became aware of syncopation and day that 118 00:06:59,316 --> 00:07:00,996 Speaker 1: kind of thing and just killed me. And I was 119 00:07:01,036 --> 00:07:03,756 Speaker 1: just I'm going to sit here and play and I'm 120 00:07:03,796 --> 00:07:07,196 Speaker 1: going to practice now until I can do this. I 121 00:07:07,276 --> 00:07:09,756 Speaker 1: just love it so much. And then I think Stairway 122 00:07:09,796 --> 00:07:13,316 Speaker 1: to the Stars and Deep Purple were the next two 123 00:07:13,356 --> 00:07:15,836 Speaker 1: things that and that they were chords. You know. I 124 00:07:15,876 --> 00:07:18,516 Speaker 1: had been playing Cherney and you know, just some you know, 125 00:07:18,796 --> 00:07:22,956 Speaker 1: scales things, and uh, but something about those chords just 126 00:07:23,036 --> 00:07:25,316 Speaker 1: got me and I just started to get better and play. 127 00:07:25,316 --> 00:07:27,956 Speaker 1: And then we had fake books around and uh. And 128 00:07:27,996 --> 00:07:30,596 Speaker 1: then I got with his teacher, Frank con Amando in 129 00:07:30,836 --> 00:07:33,116 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh that people may know, and he was great. I 130 00:07:33,236 --> 00:07:35,036 Speaker 1: used to go over to his house. My parents were 131 00:07:35,356 --> 00:07:38,796 Speaker 1: good that way, and he taught me about composition and 132 00:07:38,836 --> 00:07:42,676 Speaker 1: harmony and different voicings and different modes and how to 133 00:07:42,956 --> 00:07:47,676 Speaker 1: possibly improvise to you know, what was going on, and 134 00:07:47,716 --> 00:07:50,276 Speaker 1: I just fell in love with it. Met around fifteen 135 00:07:50,356 --> 00:07:53,076 Speaker 1: years old. I thought I was I'd already set my 136 00:07:53,116 --> 00:07:55,956 Speaker 1: heart on a career in acting, but I, just like 137 00:07:55,996 --> 00:08:00,076 Speaker 1: I do now, had this side parallel passion for piano 138 00:08:00,116 --> 00:08:03,636 Speaker 1: and music and got the talent the Yellow Pages and 139 00:08:03,676 --> 00:08:07,076 Speaker 1: started to go through them, uh cocktail lounges and started 140 00:08:07,116 --> 00:08:10,476 Speaker 1: to call cold call people and say, hey, I understand 141 00:08:10,476 --> 00:08:12,716 Speaker 1: that you you're interested in a pianist, and most of 142 00:08:12,716 --> 00:08:14,316 Speaker 1: them would say, no, we don't have a I don't 143 00:08:14,316 --> 00:08:16,796 Speaker 1: know who this is kid. Well you're you're you're misinformed. 144 00:08:16,796 --> 00:08:18,476 Speaker 1: But a couple of them said, who's this. Yeah, we 145 00:08:18,556 --> 00:08:20,716 Speaker 1: got a piano here nobody's playing. Would come down and 146 00:08:20,716 --> 00:08:22,476 Speaker 1: play it. And I got a couple of gigs that 147 00:08:22,596 --> 00:08:25,436 Speaker 1: way and so amazing. Yeah, I know, just for the 148 00:08:25,476 --> 00:08:27,516 Speaker 1: fun of it. What were you playing? Oh? You know? Well, 149 00:08:27,556 --> 00:08:29,876 Speaker 1: I would bring the fake book with me, like I 150 00:08:29,996 --> 00:08:33,036 Speaker 1: used to do up until recently, really until we really 151 00:08:33,276 --> 00:08:35,676 Speaker 1: kind of honed our repertoire and had something to kind 152 00:08:35,676 --> 00:08:38,276 Speaker 1: of present. And I had a show that which I do, 153 00:08:38,436 --> 00:08:41,116 Speaker 1: which has games and things and it's kind of a 154 00:08:41,276 --> 00:08:44,436 Speaker 1: neat hour three hours actually for me. But at that 155 00:08:44,556 --> 00:08:47,396 Speaker 1: time I just brought a you know, my fake books 156 00:08:47,436 --> 00:08:50,876 Speaker 1: and would just go through them. You know. My dad's 157 00:08:50,876 --> 00:08:53,596 Speaker 1: song favorite song was Misty. You know, he loved Errol 158 00:08:53,676 --> 00:08:57,036 Speaker 1: Garner and exposed me to it early on. I'm still 159 00:08:57,356 --> 00:09:00,236 Speaker 1: crazy about him, you know, and he brought home that album. 160 00:09:00,276 --> 00:09:02,756 Speaker 1: You know, Errol Garner plays Misty, and i'd listen to that, 161 00:09:02,796 --> 00:09:05,476 Speaker 1: so anyway, i'd play that and other things. I think 162 00:09:05,476 --> 00:09:08,476 Speaker 1: I played as you know, Sat and Doll you know, 163 00:09:08,596 --> 00:09:12,196 Speaker 1: probably you're all from Meet Panima, probably you know, anything else, 164 00:09:12,236 --> 00:09:13,876 Speaker 1: And then I would take request, I'd say, you know, 165 00:09:14,076 --> 00:09:15,396 Speaker 1: what do you want me to play? And then I'd 166 00:09:15,396 --> 00:09:16,956 Speaker 1: look it up. I'd see if I have it because 167 00:09:16,996 --> 00:09:19,916 Speaker 1: I could kind of you know, cold rita rita lead sheet, 168 00:09:19,956 --> 00:09:22,276 Speaker 1: you know like that. Were people receptive in these bars? 169 00:09:22,276 --> 00:09:25,076 Speaker 1: I don't imagine Pittsburgh as being like a big jazz town, 170 00:09:25,076 --> 00:09:26,636 Speaker 1: even though I found out a bunch of jazz like 171 00:09:26,836 --> 00:09:28,916 Speaker 1: Are Blak and Arrol are from there. But were they 172 00:09:28,956 --> 00:09:32,316 Speaker 1: receptive when you're playing a mad Jamal, they're different people. Well, 173 00:09:32,356 --> 00:09:35,236 Speaker 1: I don't think the places that I went were serious jazz. 174 00:09:35,276 --> 00:09:38,356 Speaker 1: I don't think they were going expecting to see, you know, 175 00:09:38,556 --> 00:09:41,996 Speaker 1: a mad Jamal or Errol Garner there. But from what 176 00:09:42,116 --> 00:09:44,076 Speaker 1: I gathered, there were places that I should have been 177 00:09:44,116 --> 00:09:47,076 Speaker 1: going to that were serious there. You in Pittsburgh is 178 00:09:47,116 --> 00:09:50,196 Speaker 1: a hot bit of talent, But I didn't know the 179 00:09:50,436 --> 00:09:52,996 Speaker 1: places I went, Like the guys that I got on 180 00:09:52,996 --> 00:09:54,516 Speaker 1: on the other end of the phone, I think they 181 00:09:54,556 --> 00:09:56,996 Speaker 1: were just cocktail lounges and they said, yeah, I come down. 182 00:09:56,996 --> 00:10:00,436 Speaker 1: And so I just saw the people there wanting drinks 183 00:10:00,476 --> 00:10:04,676 Speaker 1: and stuff, and they were receptive plenty. They were receptive enough. 184 00:10:04,716 --> 00:10:07,316 Speaker 1: You know what I thought I was doing? You weren't 185 00:10:07,356 --> 00:10:11,036 Speaker 1: getting you, weren't getting booed. People were appreciative at least listening. 186 00:10:11,036 --> 00:10:15,156 Speaker 1: They seem tickled in some way. You know, at that point, 187 00:10:15,156 --> 00:10:16,876 Speaker 1: did you act at all? Had you done any like 188 00:10:16,956 --> 00:10:20,876 Speaker 1: just little plays around it? Well, around that time I 189 00:10:21,396 --> 00:10:25,556 Speaker 1: had my heart set on acting, because I'd gone to 190 00:10:25,596 --> 00:10:28,636 Speaker 1: Carnegie Mellon University in the between ninth and tenth and 191 00:10:28,676 --> 00:10:32,156 Speaker 1: tenth and eleventh grades for these six weeks summer sessions 192 00:10:32,436 --> 00:10:35,596 Speaker 1: that they had the serious professors of that good school 193 00:10:35,636 --> 00:10:37,956 Speaker 1: and that good program teach these kids do from all 194 00:10:37,956 --> 00:10:42,476 Speaker 1: over the country, and I just felt like I was 195 00:10:42,596 --> 00:10:45,716 Speaker 1: home and had felt and had found my family somehow, 196 00:10:45,756 --> 00:10:49,276 Speaker 1: and was very excited and would write on the steamy 197 00:10:49,316 --> 00:10:52,236 Speaker 1: shower door every morning as I took a shower before school, 198 00:10:52,436 --> 00:10:55,556 Speaker 1: Please God let me be an actor. And then I 199 00:10:55,916 --> 00:10:58,516 Speaker 1: kept it secret. I would wipe it away so nobody 200 00:10:58,516 --> 00:11:00,596 Speaker 1: saw it, because it was just a secret of mine, 201 00:11:00,636 --> 00:11:03,276 Speaker 1: but I would. I was sort of baying at the 202 00:11:03,316 --> 00:11:05,716 Speaker 1: moon about the whole thing. But I hadn't really done 203 00:11:05,716 --> 00:11:09,516 Speaker 1: anything because even the kind of cheesy a thing in 204 00:11:09,516 --> 00:11:11,916 Speaker 1: the high school that I went to, which was sort 205 00:11:11,956 --> 00:11:15,236 Speaker 1: of provincial in some ways, you know, they did Oklahoma 206 00:11:15,316 --> 00:11:18,316 Speaker 1: or something like that, but I kind of didn't participate. 207 00:11:18,356 --> 00:11:21,676 Speaker 1: I was stupidly not, you know, kind of thought I 208 00:11:21,836 --> 00:11:25,116 Speaker 1: was had other other notions and this and that, and 209 00:11:25,716 --> 00:11:28,116 Speaker 1: as soon as I could get out at seventeen, I graduated, 210 00:11:28,396 --> 00:11:31,116 Speaker 1: went to New York somehow and got to the Neighborhood 211 00:11:31,156 --> 00:11:33,756 Speaker 1: Playhouse where Sandy Meisner, a great acting teacher, was teaching, 212 00:11:33,916 --> 00:11:36,076 Speaker 1: and that's when I started to do it, but still 213 00:11:36,116 --> 00:11:39,716 Speaker 1: hadn't really done anything studied that year, and then in 214 00:11:39,716 --> 00:11:43,876 Speaker 1: between the first and second year, I fell into, by 215 00:11:43,916 --> 00:11:46,796 Speaker 1: a fluke, a production of my first job, and the 216 00:11:46,836 --> 00:11:49,196 Speaker 1: first thing I didn't even go up for. They called 217 00:11:49,236 --> 00:11:51,156 Speaker 1: the school, in fact, said did you have anybody tall? 218 00:11:51,676 --> 00:11:53,716 Speaker 1: It could be a guard in this thing. We're doing 219 00:11:53,756 --> 00:11:56,716 Speaker 1: this musical version of Two Gentlemen of Verona, and Galt McDermott, 220 00:11:56,716 --> 00:12:00,956 Speaker 1: who wrote Hair along with Jerome Ragney, wrote the music 221 00:12:00,956 --> 00:12:03,956 Speaker 1: to it, is doing the music to it, and John 222 00:12:04,036 --> 00:12:07,316 Speaker 1: Guare's a great playwright, is adapting to Shakespeare and rel 223 00:12:07,476 --> 00:12:10,036 Speaker 1: Julie was in it, and then added I got the part, 224 00:12:10,076 --> 00:12:11,836 Speaker 1: and I joined that, it was in the it was 225 00:12:11,876 --> 00:12:14,436 Speaker 1: in the chorus, and this and that and played in 226 00:12:14,476 --> 00:12:16,756 Speaker 1: the pit. I used to go down play piano. When 227 00:12:16,796 --> 00:12:20,636 Speaker 1: I was down there and in the pit was Thad Jones. Wow, 228 00:12:20,956 --> 00:12:22,716 Speaker 1: would be in the pit. You know, all these guys 229 00:12:22,716 --> 00:12:26,316 Speaker 1: take a little stints and in Broadway or orchestra pitch sometimes. 230 00:12:26,396 --> 00:12:28,596 Speaker 1: And I had seen him because my dad the jazz fan. 231 00:12:28,836 --> 00:12:31,796 Speaker 1: We'd gone to Atlantic City from Pittsburgh. We'd driven to 232 00:12:31,876 --> 00:12:35,556 Speaker 1: Atlantic City like we used to do several years, and 233 00:12:36,236 --> 00:12:38,156 Speaker 1: like on the steel pier or something, there was some 234 00:12:38,396 --> 00:12:40,796 Speaker 1: he said, I, Hey, I see that Thad Jones mill 235 00:12:40,916 --> 00:12:42,836 Speaker 1: Lewis are playing. We got to go see them. So 236 00:12:42,876 --> 00:12:45,396 Speaker 1: I saw them and they're big band live. I can 237 00:12:45,436 --> 00:12:47,756 Speaker 1: still remember it. Anyway. Then I saw him. I was like, hey, 238 00:12:47,796 --> 00:12:49,236 Speaker 1: I saw you and did I did? I play a 239 00:12:49,236 --> 00:12:51,556 Speaker 1: little And so I was playing with these guys, you know, 240 00:12:51,636 --> 00:12:54,316 Speaker 1: with a lot of moxie. Was Gald McDermot down in 241 00:12:54,316 --> 00:12:57,196 Speaker 1: the pit two Gold McDermot. Do you know? No, he would? 242 00:12:57,196 --> 00:12:58,716 Speaker 1: You know? Like that was a Broadway show. Was the 243 00:12:58,716 --> 00:13:01,596 Speaker 1: biggest hit of Shakespeare Festival that ever had and because 244 00:13:01,676 --> 00:13:04,316 Speaker 1: a big story that summer at the Delacourt outside and 245 00:13:04,356 --> 00:13:06,316 Speaker 1: then we went to the Saint James Theater. I was 246 00:13:06,356 --> 00:13:08,756 Speaker 1: there for a year, understayed one of the bigger parts, 247 00:13:08,756 --> 00:13:11,956 Speaker 1: and no, the composer of it. I think they check 248 00:13:12,036 --> 00:13:14,956 Speaker 1: in on it probably, sure, you know, even unbeknownst to 249 00:13:15,036 --> 00:13:21,396 Speaker 1: us sometimes. But no, No, my friend Tom Pearson was conducting, 250 00:13:21,516 --> 00:13:24,476 Speaker 1: and oh do you know who else was in that 251 00:13:24,516 --> 00:13:28,756 Speaker 1: pit for a while who played drums? Bernard Party? Do 252 00:13:28,796 --> 00:13:31,236 Speaker 1: you know Bernard Party? We were supposed to interview him 253 00:13:31,276 --> 00:13:35,236 Speaker 1: for this, Well, this is nineteen seventy one, and he was, 254 00:13:36,356 --> 00:13:39,916 Speaker 1: you know, in his full flush of his of his 255 00:13:40,076 --> 00:13:44,076 Speaker 1: brilliant tendencies, having played for Aretha Franklin with Aretha Jeez, 256 00:13:44,276 --> 00:13:47,636 Speaker 1: Bernard Party, how about that? So did you talk to 257 00:13:47,676 --> 00:13:50,316 Speaker 1: these guys and sort of asked them like lean advice 258 00:13:50,516 --> 00:13:53,516 Speaker 1: or you know? I was stupid, like I've always been 259 00:13:53,596 --> 00:13:56,076 Speaker 1: kind of stupid. I kind of am like zelling in 260 00:13:56,116 --> 00:13:57,796 Speaker 1: some way. I kind of would show up and just 261 00:13:57,876 --> 00:14:00,956 Speaker 1: had a lucky, you know, intersection with some of these types. 262 00:14:00,996 --> 00:14:05,836 Speaker 1: But unlike now where I wouldn't get really hip. I 263 00:14:05,956 --> 00:14:09,316 Speaker 1: was sort of just sort of stupid. And now go 264 00:14:09,356 --> 00:14:11,716 Speaker 1: on IMDb, you can use you know, Wikipedia. Before I 265 00:14:11,756 --> 00:14:15,556 Speaker 1: have meetings, I go and work with people. I go, She's, 266 00:14:15,556 --> 00:14:18,956 Speaker 1: oh right, I know them. But there are all sorts 267 00:14:18,996 --> 00:14:20,676 Speaker 1: of stories that I can tell you about actors that 268 00:14:20,716 --> 00:14:23,596 Speaker 1: I've worked with, and including that Jones and Bernard Purty, 269 00:14:23,636 --> 00:14:27,996 Speaker 1: who I barely realized how lucky I was, you know, 270 00:14:28,236 --> 00:14:31,156 Speaker 1: likewise with many actors. But now that's why I kind 271 00:14:31,156 --> 00:14:35,516 Speaker 1: of go, I hope it's not a violation of protocol. 272 00:14:35,596 --> 00:14:39,356 Speaker 1: But I I find out about you do some research. Yeah, 273 00:14:39,396 --> 00:14:42,116 Speaker 1: I do my research, and I say, oh, and I'm 274 00:14:42,116 --> 00:14:45,756 Speaker 1: then I asked them my question. It's so cool so 275 00:14:45,756 --> 00:14:48,956 Speaker 1: early on, So those early performances at like Pittsburgh Bars, 276 00:14:48,956 --> 00:14:52,996 Speaker 1: those are your first public performances ever, Yeah, you could 277 00:14:52,996 --> 00:14:56,116 Speaker 1: say that. I guess. I guess. So that's right. It's 278 00:14:56,156 --> 00:14:58,436 Speaker 1: so strange. It's so funny that that was your you. 279 00:14:58,436 --> 00:15:00,516 Speaker 1: You know, you go on to act, and acting was 280 00:15:00,556 --> 00:15:02,796 Speaker 1: really your main the main thing you were after. But 281 00:15:02,836 --> 00:15:06,556 Speaker 1: then the earliest public display of Jeff Goldblum is is 282 00:15:06,676 --> 00:15:09,916 Speaker 1: playing piano. Yeah, that's right. As first. That's why it 283 00:15:09,956 --> 00:15:12,356 Speaker 1: feels natural now. And it was always just for fun. 284 00:15:12,396 --> 00:15:15,956 Speaker 1: I never had any kind of identity investment in it, 285 00:15:15,996 --> 00:15:19,596 Speaker 1: like or career ism about it. I was just like, hey, 286 00:15:19,756 --> 00:15:21,596 Speaker 1: I just want to do this, this is fun. And 287 00:15:21,676 --> 00:15:24,676 Speaker 1: still that's kind of how this whole thing has happened 288 00:15:24,796 --> 00:15:28,396 Speaker 1: now and it just changes my days in my life. 289 00:15:28,876 --> 00:15:31,356 Speaker 1: Every day, like this morning, I get up and play 290 00:15:31,356 --> 00:15:33,316 Speaker 1: for about an hour. It's one of the first things 291 00:15:33,316 --> 00:15:35,116 Speaker 1: I do before the kids get up. And around five 292 00:15:35,476 --> 00:15:38,436 Speaker 1: am or six am, I work out here and I 293 00:15:38,476 --> 00:15:41,076 Speaker 1: play piano and I work on my lines for Jurassic World. 294 00:15:41,076 --> 00:15:43,396 Speaker 1: At this point I got a part to work on, 295 00:15:43,436 --> 00:15:45,476 Speaker 1: so I get all my homework done them very now. 296 00:15:45,476 --> 00:15:47,956 Speaker 1: I know what it's like to be disciplined and how 297 00:15:47,996 --> 00:15:51,076 Speaker 1: that can bear fruit, and so I just play and 298 00:15:51,116 --> 00:15:53,756 Speaker 1: it changes my day. It's music is as much a 299 00:15:54,276 --> 00:15:58,316 Speaker 1: meditation and a tonic for me as anything that I do, 300 00:15:58,476 --> 00:16:00,756 Speaker 1: and I just adore it. And then playing out and 301 00:16:00,796 --> 00:16:03,716 Speaker 1: about which is kind of developed now and making these 302 00:16:03,756 --> 00:16:07,516 Speaker 1: records is just as sweet a thing as you know. 303 00:16:07,516 --> 00:16:09,316 Speaker 1: It could have happened to a fellow here on Earth. 304 00:16:10,156 --> 00:16:12,676 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more from Jeff Goldbloom. After a 305 00:16:12,756 --> 00:16:20,196 Speaker 1: quick break. We're back with more from Jeff Goldbloom, who's 306 00:16:20,236 --> 00:16:23,756 Speaker 1: talking about his skilled band mates in the Mildred Snitzer Orchestra. 307 00:16:24,876 --> 00:16:26,716 Speaker 1: How is it playing with those guys because you didn't 308 00:16:26,716 --> 00:16:29,116 Speaker 1: go to I mean a lot of your band like Berkeley, 309 00:16:29,196 --> 00:16:31,596 Speaker 1: and you know they played another great players they all 310 00:16:31,636 --> 00:16:34,116 Speaker 1: went there. They're all to all those places and their 311 00:16:34,356 --> 00:16:37,876 Speaker 1: their masters and they teach and they're they're great for me. 312 00:16:38,356 --> 00:16:41,076 Speaker 1: Uh No, it's just a great playing with all those guys, 313 00:16:41,116 --> 00:16:43,476 Speaker 1: you know. And now what I do every morning actually 314 00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:45,836 Speaker 1: is from the last album, which is what we're gonna 315 00:16:45,916 --> 00:16:48,636 Speaker 1: be playing when we do it, I hope live again 316 00:16:48,916 --> 00:16:51,516 Speaker 1: soon is we're gonna be doing a lot of that stuff. 317 00:16:51,556 --> 00:16:54,796 Speaker 1: So I put on the album and play along with 318 00:16:55,636 --> 00:16:58,556 Speaker 1: the songs plus several other things that we're cooking up 319 00:16:58,596 --> 00:17:01,916 Speaker 1: that we that are currently in our back burner. But 320 00:17:01,956 --> 00:17:04,276 Speaker 1: I play all of it every day. I go through 321 00:17:04,316 --> 00:17:05,636 Speaker 1: that whole album and play all of it. You go 322 00:17:05,636 --> 00:17:08,156 Speaker 1: through your most recent record and play along yep, wow, 323 00:17:08,236 --> 00:17:11,316 Speaker 1: yep yep. Every day with Miley Cyrus and Creona Apple 324 00:17:11,396 --> 00:17:14,836 Speaker 1: and Sharon van Etton and Anna Calvia everybody and aar 325 00:17:14,956 --> 00:17:18,116 Speaker 1: George and a great reporter. Every single day I play, 326 00:17:18,556 --> 00:17:20,756 Speaker 1: you know, at least once in the morning. You know, 327 00:17:20,916 --> 00:17:23,956 Speaker 1: makes some unhappy. I'm getting better, I tell you. Do 328 00:17:23,956 --> 00:17:25,796 Speaker 1: You almost wish you could rerecord the album. Do you 329 00:17:25,836 --> 00:17:28,276 Speaker 1: feel like you're getting it under your fingers better? Oh? Yeah. 330 00:17:28,316 --> 00:17:30,036 Speaker 1: At the time we did the album, you know, we 331 00:17:30,076 --> 00:17:32,636 Speaker 1: had just come up with these arrangements. And the first 332 00:17:32,636 --> 00:17:34,836 Speaker 1: album with something Else, we did this kind of you know, 333 00:17:35,036 --> 00:17:38,996 Speaker 1: effects simile of our rockwell date and was very spontaneous 334 00:17:38,996 --> 00:17:41,036 Speaker 1: in the songs we played. You know. We had maybe 335 00:17:41,036 --> 00:17:44,156 Speaker 1: a couple of takes, but we was whatever came out, 336 00:17:44,196 --> 00:17:46,156 Speaker 1: you know, And so I was kind of it was 337 00:17:46,196 --> 00:17:49,276 Speaker 1: however we did it. But we arranged these a little 338 00:17:49,316 --> 00:17:53,276 Speaker 1: more complicatedly and sophisticatedly, and I had something to learn 339 00:17:53,356 --> 00:17:56,516 Speaker 1: on them, and I was just getting my sea legs 340 00:17:56,596 --> 00:18:00,196 Speaker 1: on most of them as we recorded them and kind 341 00:18:00,236 --> 00:18:04,236 Speaker 1: of reading and turning pages and getting them done. But 342 00:18:04,356 --> 00:18:07,396 Speaker 1: now I know all of them. I keep investigating them 343 00:18:07,436 --> 00:18:10,036 Speaker 1: every day and do different things every day with them. 344 00:18:10,076 --> 00:18:12,516 Speaker 1: But oh yeah, they're more under my fingers for sure. 345 00:18:12,876 --> 00:18:14,876 Speaker 1: How do you go about choosing the vocalists that you 346 00:18:14,916 --> 00:18:16,956 Speaker 1: work with. Is there a type of voice that you 347 00:18:16,996 --> 00:18:20,956 Speaker 1: feel especially drawn to. Well, we had a wish list, 348 00:18:20,956 --> 00:18:24,196 Speaker 1: and we have many people I do and the band did. 349 00:18:24,356 --> 00:18:29,156 Speaker 1: I started defer sometimes to them. They know who they 350 00:18:29,236 --> 00:18:33,356 Speaker 1: like and I love their taste. But I was crazy 351 00:18:33,396 --> 00:18:36,156 Speaker 1: about all these people that we worked with. Greg Reporter, 352 00:18:36,676 --> 00:18:39,116 Speaker 1: you know, I is kind of the way we got 353 00:18:39,116 --> 00:18:43,156 Speaker 1: hooked up with Decca. I was promoting for that movie 354 00:18:43,156 --> 00:18:46,076 Speaker 1: a few years ago and I did the Graham Norton 355 00:18:46,116 --> 00:18:50,636 Speaker 1: Show in London and Greg Reporter was the musical guest, 356 00:18:51,356 --> 00:18:54,836 Speaker 1: and he was promoting that Nat King Cole album and 357 00:18:54,916 --> 00:18:58,276 Speaker 1: he wanted to sing Mona Lisa and he had done 358 00:18:58,276 --> 00:18:59,996 Speaker 1: it with just a piano player, and said, hey, do 359 00:19:00,076 --> 00:19:03,356 Speaker 1: you want to accompany me on the show? And we 360 00:19:03,476 --> 00:19:07,516 Speaker 1: ran through it backstage once and I did. And it 361 00:19:07,596 --> 00:19:11,716 Speaker 1: was because Decca, Tom Lewis, Rebecca Allen saw the show 362 00:19:11,756 --> 00:19:13,716 Speaker 1: and said, hey, maybe we should do something with Jeff 363 00:19:13,716 --> 00:19:16,316 Speaker 1: that that whole thing came about. So anyway, I was 364 00:19:16,316 --> 00:19:18,676 Speaker 1: thrilled that he was on the album and I love 365 00:19:18,796 --> 00:19:21,716 Speaker 1: his voice and we were thinking, gee if he was 366 00:19:21,756 --> 00:19:23,996 Speaker 1: even before he agreed to do it, that I had 367 00:19:23,996 --> 00:19:27,156 Speaker 1: proposed it to him that we said what would he sing? 368 00:19:27,196 --> 00:19:31,236 Speaker 1: What could he sing? Everything he sings? But we like 369 00:19:31,316 --> 00:19:34,836 Speaker 1: this song make someone happy, and it's we can do 370 00:19:34,876 --> 00:19:36,916 Speaker 1: it so slowly that he you know, it could be 371 00:19:36,996 --> 00:19:40,036 Speaker 1: right in his sweet spot. I'm sure enough. I'm just 372 00:19:40,076 --> 00:19:42,156 Speaker 1: crazy about what he did with us. And then the 373 00:19:42,196 --> 00:19:44,956 Speaker 1: other singers you know we were looking for. I think 374 00:19:44,956 --> 00:19:48,516 Speaker 1: we were looking for singers who weren't ordinarily in the 375 00:19:48,836 --> 00:19:56,436 Speaker 1: jazz veins right, and thought that they're brilliant, unique, you know, 376 00:19:56,876 --> 00:20:00,356 Speaker 1: artistry could mash up with us in a way that 377 00:20:00,396 --> 00:20:03,236 Speaker 1: would be unexpected, surprising, And on a lot of those songs, 378 00:20:03,476 --> 00:20:05,636 Speaker 1: as you see, as you know, we mashed up a 379 00:20:05,636 --> 00:20:08,716 Speaker 1: couple of different tunes, you know, jazz tunes to stand 380 00:20:08,796 --> 00:20:13,396 Speaker 1: jazz standards with you know pop tunes. Yeah, the Sidewinder 381 00:20:13,476 --> 00:20:17,396 Speaker 1: with the Beat Goes On. I've listened to the Sidewinder 382 00:20:17,636 --> 00:20:19,436 Speaker 1: so many times. I've listened to Beat Goes On a 383 00:20:19,476 --> 00:20:21,476 Speaker 1: bunch of times and they fit together so well, and 384 00:20:21,596 --> 00:20:24,116 Speaker 1: never it never occurred to me until I listened to 385 00:20:24,196 --> 00:20:26,996 Speaker 1: the record. It's so incredible. Yeah, the guys from the band, 386 00:20:27,036 --> 00:20:29,676 Speaker 1: they all, they all did that. You know, that was 387 00:20:29,796 --> 00:20:34,836 Speaker 1: the same harmonic composition, and you know, I love that. Yeah, 388 00:20:34,876 --> 00:20:37,316 Speaker 1: the Beat goes On with Sidewinder, that at all. We 389 00:20:37,516 --> 00:20:40,476 Speaker 1: played that at gigs before that was in our you 390 00:20:40,516 --> 00:20:43,236 Speaker 1: know sometimes repertoire, and it always drove me crazy. I 391 00:20:43,316 --> 00:20:46,076 Speaker 1: love love that song. It just drives me wild. But 392 00:20:46,196 --> 00:20:49,916 Speaker 1: how about the thrill is Gun that Miley does with 393 00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:52,716 Speaker 1: with Django my brother. One of the records that had 394 00:20:52,756 --> 00:20:56,036 Speaker 1: big influence on me was the modern jazz quartet, the 395 00:20:56,076 --> 00:21:00,036 Speaker 1: records that he would bring home and John Lewis and Django, 396 00:21:00,156 --> 00:21:03,076 Speaker 1: so they knew about that. They they sort of some 397 00:21:03,196 --> 00:21:06,796 Speaker 1: of the band Um Joe Bag and John Story and 398 00:21:06,836 --> 00:21:09,516 Speaker 1: Alex Frank kind of figured out that Jang would be 399 00:21:09,516 --> 00:21:11,916 Speaker 1: good with the thrill is gun. I love that. But 400 00:21:11,956 --> 00:21:15,076 Speaker 1: how about four on six with Broken English? How did that? 401 00:21:15,116 --> 00:21:18,836 Speaker 1: How did that come together? Well, the guys they had 402 00:21:18,876 --> 00:21:22,116 Speaker 1: it was before we got Anna Calvy to join us. 403 00:21:22,156 --> 00:21:24,916 Speaker 1: They put it together. We we they said, let's do 404 00:21:24,956 --> 00:21:29,556 Speaker 1: another mash up like that, and the chord structure was 405 00:21:29,796 --> 00:21:33,636 Speaker 1: right for it. And so four on six, which we'd 406 00:21:33,636 --> 00:21:38,196 Speaker 1: played a bunch before West Montgomery tune, but broken English, uh, 407 00:21:38,396 --> 00:21:40,836 Speaker 1: Mary Ann Faithful. I was not as familiar with that, 408 00:21:40,916 --> 00:21:43,156 Speaker 1: but they they figured that it was right, and I 409 00:21:43,196 --> 00:21:45,716 Speaker 1: played it every day. Now I know that a lot better. 410 00:21:45,836 --> 00:21:48,076 Speaker 1: I can't wait till we play that again, you know, 411 00:21:49,036 --> 00:21:52,596 Speaker 1: g Minor and I get a little solo in there 412 00:21:52,636 --> 00:21:56,316 Speaker 1: for a moment. Oh, I like that song, and then 413 00:21:56,516 --> 00:21:59,156 Speaker 1: oh how about it? If I knew then, you know 414 00:21:59,156 --> 00:22:02,156 Speaker 1: with Gina Saputo, that little we transpose it was their 415 00:22:02,196 --> 00:22:05,756 Speaker 1: idea to transpose that. Sarah Van solo that she does 416 00:22:05,876 --> 00:22:09,316 Speaker 1: that she scats on that, and we we played that 417 00:22:09,356 --> 00:22:12,356 Speaker 1: all together just in a little snippet. So was there 418 00:22:12,396 --> 00:22:16,356 Speaker 1: a concept before you started recording the album? Well, just 419 00:22:16,676 --> 00:22:20,636 Speaker 1: only that um that that this mashup of not only 420 00:22:20,716 --> 00:22:24,556 Speaker 1: tunes might be interesting, but this mashup of uh maybe 421 00:22:24,596 --> 00:22:28,476 Speaker 1: not traditionally jazz singers, what could mash up with us? 422 00:22:28,516 --> 00:22:30,596 Speaker 1: That was the That was our theme. That was it. 423 00:22:30,676 --> 00:22:32,916 Speaker 1: And then somebody said, well, maybe you should sing a song. 424 00:22:32,956 --> 00:22:36,476 Speaker 1: And I do like to sing just for my own annoyance, 425 00:22:36,556 --> 00:22:40,516 Speaker 1: you know, and pleasure and m and uh and then 426 00:22:40,556 --> 00:22:43,836 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, I recorded into this into 427 00:22:43,876 --> 00:22:46,156 Speaker 1: Alex Frank's iPhone one day, a little man, you've had 428 00:22:46,196 --> 00:22:48,556 Speaker 1: a busy day, which I've been singing to the kids 429 00:22:48,556 --> 00:22:50,916 Speaker 1: when they go to sleep sometimes, And he said, yeah, 430 00:22:51,076 --> 00:22:54,156 Speaker 1: do that they come up, came up with a an 431 00:22:54,196 --> 00:22:56,876 Speaker 1: arrangement for that. Yeah. Do your boys look at you 432 00:22:56,916 --> 00:22:59,356 Speaker 1: as sort of like a music man? Are you? Do 433 00:22:59,396 --> 00:23:01,436 Speaker 1: you play the piano a lot while they're around and 434 00:23:01,476 --> 00:23:04,596 Speaker 1: sing to them? Yes, I you know, I'm we're singing 435 00:23:04,596 --> 00:23:07,476 Speaker 1: all the time. And I played the piano all the time. 436 00:23:07,556 --> 00:23:10,676 Speaker 1: I've got keyboards. I got a nice Fender Rhodes old 437 00:23:10,676 --> 00:23:13,676 Speaker 1: Fender Rhodes that I have another Yamaha keyboard that I 438 00:23:13,756 --> 00:23:18,036 Speaker 1: use for practicing, and a nice Yamaha Grand Acoustic Grand. 439 00:23:18,356 --> 00:23:20,436 Speaker 1: And so they're they're around and I play him all 440 00:23:20,476 --> 00:23:24,036 Speaker 1: the time, and I'm singing, and they're you know, I 441 00:23:24,076 --> 00:23:28,156 Speaker 1: think they're musical, and they're taking lessons themselves. Wow. There. Yeah, 442 00:23:28,716 --> 00:23:33,716 Speaker 1: Emily was very good at, you know, keeping them exposed 443 00:23:33,716 --> 00:23:37,076 Speaker 1: to all sorts of things. We got them into suzuki, 444 00:23:37,236 --> 00:23:39,956 Speaker 1: you know, the suzuki yep. I did Suzuki method when 445 00:23:39,996 --> 00:23:42,716 Speaker 1: I was younger, you did, ye, I didn't know it 446 00:23:42,836 --> 00:23:44,556 Speaker 1: so much. But now we've got a very good teacher 447 00:23:44,676 --> 00:23:47,996 Speaker 1: named sense Kevin and h And during this period we 448 00:23:48,036 --> 00:23:50,276 Speaker 1: had gone, I drove them over to the valley and 449 00:23:50,556 --> 00:23:52,956 Speaker 1: on Ventura Boulevard there's a nice little studio and he 450 00:23:53,316 --> 00:23:55,076 Speaker 1: took some lessons there. And now he's been doing it 451 00:23:55,116 --> 00:23:58,756 Speaker 1: once a week or no, twice a week virtually, and 452 00:23:59,556 --> 00:24:02,396 Speaker 1: I play with him every day. But believe it or not, 453 00:24:03,076 --> 00:24:05,676 Speaker 1: he and he's five. Charlie the other one, you have 454 00:24:05,756 --> 00:24:08,276 Speaker 1: to kind of force him to. He does as little 455 00:24:08,316 --> 00:24:10,636 Speaker 1: as possibly. He's really not interested in it. He's plays 456 00:24:10,676 --> 00:24:13,076 Speaker 1: Twinkle Twinkle, Little Star. But Charlie is going through this 457 00:24:13,316 --> 00:24:17,036 Speaker 1: Zuoki book and he does what I do. I guess 458 00:24:17,116 --> 00:24:19,396 Speaker 1: because maybe I've modeled it, but he really he knows 459 00:24:19,436 --> 00:24:22,716 Speaker 1: that I play every morning. So every morning he gets 460 00:24:22,796 --> 00:24:27,876 Speaker 1: up at six thirty and he runs through his whole repertoire. Wow. Yeah, 461 00:24:27,916 --> 00:24:32,676 Speaker 1: and he's just learning to, you know, do things with 462 00:24:33,116 --> 00:24:37,996 Speaker 1: hands together, you know, um in unison. But he's just 463 00:24:38,236 --> 00:24:40,476 Speaker 1: but he's learning a couple of pieces where there's some 464 00:24:40,596 --> 00:24:43,076 Speaker 1: where it separates them and there's something coordinated you've got 465 00:24:43,076 --> 00:24:45,236 Speaker 1: to do with two different hands. And he's in he's 466 00:24:45,276 --> 00:24:47,716 Speaker 1: worked on it and he's getting them better, and he's 467 00:24:47,756 --> 00:24:50,116 Speaker 1: passing through stages and it just kind of thrills me, 468 00:24:50,196 --> 00:24:53,156 Speaker 1: like a like the average papa, you know. I looked 469 00:24:53,156 --> 00:24:55,836 Speaker 1: at it and it kind of, you know, just just 470 00:24:56,316 --> 00:24:59,676 Speaker 1: blows my blows my mind. That's incredible. It's amazing. I'm 471 00:24:59,716 --> 00:25:02,556 Speaker 1: gonna send my kids to your house, Jeff, you can 472 00:25:02,596 --> 00:25:05,036 Speaker 1: get them disciplined. Really, how many kids you got? What 473 00:25:05,076 --> 00:25:08,156 Speaker 1: are and what are they doing? Two? I have four 474 00:25:08,236 --> 00:25:10,516 Speaker 1: year old in a almost two year old. Hey, we're 475 00:25:10,516 --> 00:25:13,316 Speaker 1: in the same boat. Well that's it. They started around 476 00:25:13,396 --> 00:25:15,516 Speaker 1: you know, four, So it's been easy. I mean, and 477 00:25:15,556 --> 00:25:16,996 Speaker 1: I look at him. One of the things that I 478 00:25:17,036 --> 00:25:19,356 Speaker 1: say to myself and oftentimes allowed to Emily as wow, 479 00:25:19,716 --> 00:25:22,196 Speaker 1: I did not I started play taking lessons when I 480 00:25:22,236 --> 00:25:25,356 Speaker 1: was I think, I don't know, eight, nine, ten, something 481 00:25:25,396 --> 00:25:29,036 Speaker 1: like that. I was not playing like he was at ten. 482 00:25:29,276 --> 00:25:31,476 Speaker 1: And then he says, you know, we do listening things. 483 00:25:31,756 --> 00:25:34,396 Speaker 1: He goes here, play what I just did. And then 484 00:25:34,396 --> 00:25:36,676 Speaker 1: he just likes to explore the piano, and he, you know, 485 00:25:36,676 --> 00:25:40,396 Speaker 1: he puts all over the all over the keyboard. And 486 00:25:40,436 --> 00:25:43,516 Speaker 1: then sometimes although we say, oh don't you know, don't 487 00:25:43,596 --> 00:25:45,996 Speaker 1: ruin the piano, but he goes inside the piano. He 488 00:25:46,036 --> 00:25:48,276 Speaker 1: likes to see how it works. And you know, started 489 00:25:48,356 --> 00:25:51,796 Speaker 1: think think, think, you know, plucking the strings. They might 490 00:25:51,836 --> 00:25:55,276 Speaker 1: be an avant garde. Uh, you know player. One of 491 00:25:55,276 --> 00:25:57,996 Speaker 1: these days, has he gone do any of your gigs yet? Uh? 492 00:25:58,196 --> 00:26:01,876 Speaker 1: You know, he was, well, you know, the nighttime gigs 493 00:26:01,956 --> 00:26:04,316 Speaker 1: or two they go to bed at seven thirty. But 494 00:26:04,876 --> 00:26:07,396 Speaker 1: we started to gig at nine. But when we've played 495 00:26:07,396 --> 00:26:10,836 Speaker 1: a couple of these festivals, one I'm thinking of I 496 00:26:10,876 --> 00:26:13,516 Speaker 1: forget where it was. You know, in the daytime, we 497 00:26:13,596 --> 00:26:15,916 Speaker 1: all drove up to wherever it was and it was 498 00:26:15,956 --> 00:26:18,596 Speaker 1: a big outdoor festival and he was on the side 499 00:26:18,636 --> 00:26:22,316 Speaker 1: of the in the wings as I was playing. I 500 00:26:22,316 --> 00:26:24,316 Speaker 1: don't know that it made much impression on him, and 501 00:26:25,556 --> 00:26:28,956 Speaker 1: but it maybe I imprints on them, you know, someplace. 502 00:26:29,116 --> 00:26:30,316 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know if I even know 503 00:26:30,356 --> 00:26:34,676 Speaker 1: if he'd remember now. But but even now they're not 504 00:26:35,516 --> 00:26:38,236 Speaker 1: Maybe they model themselves after me in some way, but 505 00:26:38,316 --> 00:26:42,516 Speaker 1: they're not particularly impressed. Oftentimes they'll say stop playing, stop playing. 506 00:26:42,876 --> 00:26:46,796 Speaker 1: They want to interrupt and stop. But then he'll say, hey, 507 00:26:47,316 --> 00:26:49,676 Speaker 1: do you know, do this stuff from my book? And 508 00:26:49,716 --> 00:26:52,316 Speaker 1: I'll play stuff from his book and they'll get kind of, 509 00:26:53,076 --> 00:26:58,036 Speaker 1: you know, frenzied and jump on me and stuff like that. 510 00:26:58,396 --> 00:27:01,356 Speaker 1: And music is, as you know it. It has a 511 00:27:01,436 --> 00:27:05,876 Speaker 1: wild effect on the on the on the nervous system, 512 00:27:05,956 --> 00:27:08,876 Speaker 1: doesn't it. He's going to be calling around a cocktail 513 00:27:08,916 --> 00:27:12,796 Speaker 1: out just pretty soon, watch out. I'm sure. I'm sure 514 00:27:13,556 --> 00:27:20,676 Speaker 1: we'll have more with Jeff Goldblum. After the break, we're 515 00:27:20,716 --> 00:27:23,396 Speaker 1: back with the rest of our interview with Jeff Goldblum, who, 516 00:27:23,396 --> 00:27:26,356 Speaker 1: when we left off, was talking about his kid's newfound 517 00:27:26,396 --> 00:27:29,956 Speaker 1: love for music. When you were their age or a 518 00:27:29,956 --> 00:27:32,276 Speaker 1: little maybe a little older, but just in your childhood, 519 00:27:32,316 --> 00:27:35,076 Speaker 1: you weren't maybe as disciplined as they were with the plane. 520 00:27:35,556 --> 00:27:37,916 Speaker 1: But was music an important part of your life? Were 521 00:27:37,916 --> 00:27:41,156 Speaker 1: you listening a lot and introduced to a lot? And yes, 522 00:27:41,476 --> 00:27:43,676 Speaker 1: I was listening. Like I say, my dad brought home 523 00:27:43,716 --> 00:27:47,356 Speaker 1: those Eryl Giner records and they would bring Broadway musicals home, 524 00:27:47,436 --> 00:27:50,996 Speaker 1: and the Music Man and My Fair Lady and stuff 525 00:27:51,036 --> 00:27:53,596 Speaker 1: like that. But jazz. And then I had an older brother, 526 00:27:53,996 --> 00:27:56,516 Speaker 1: like I say, four years older than I was, who 527 00:27:56,556 --> 00:27:59,756 Speaker 1: was really into jazz, and he would bring home Stan 528 00:27:59,956 --> 00:28:03,396 Speaker 1: Getz and Joe Barretto that album I was. I was 529 00:28:03,436 --> 00:28:08,236 Speaker 1: listening to a lot and modern Jazz quartet and all 530 00:28:08,476 --> 00:28:10,956 Speaker 1: kind of all kinds of stuff. So it was, yeah, 531 00:28:10,996 --> 00:28:13,716 Speaker 1: it was around and it did something to me. I 532 00:28:13,876 --> 00:28:16,396 Speaker 1: was you know, I would get jazzed up, you know, 533 00:28:16,516 --> 00:28:19,596 Speaker 1: around music early on. So would you say, do you 534 00:28:19,636 --> 00:28:23,236 Speaker 1: consider jazz to be your favorite type of music? Well, 535 00:28:23,556 --> 00:28:27,236 Speaker 1: and can you try to articulate what it does for you? 536 00:28:27,356 --> 00:28:30,436 Speaker 1: So many things, you know, jazz, there's so many kinds 537 00:28:30,476 --> 00:28:34,836 Speaker 1: of jazz and different songs that hit every all manner 538 00:28:34,876 --> 00:28:37,196 Speaker 1: of chords in you. But yeah, it's very I find 539 00:28:37,196 --> 00:28:43,036 Speaker 1: it complicated, you know sometimes and can hit places in 540 00:28:43,076 --> 00:28:51,036 Speaker 1: me that are uniquely unreachable otherwise, certainly, I love early 541 00:28:51,156 --> 00:28:53,916 Speaker 1: on I sort of got the idea that musicians and 542 00:28:53,956 --> 00:28:59,116 Speaker 1: even in recording could do something spontaneous and be inventing 543 00:28:59,196 --> 00:29:03,716 Speaker 1: something on the spot. That has always done something to me, 544 00:29:03,836 --> 00:29:07,276 Speaker 1: that idea. I'm still enthralled with it, and I try 545 00:29:07,276 --> 00:29:13,076 Speaker 1: to bring that to my acting and my presentations of 546 00:29:13,076 --> 00:29:15,516 Speaker 1: one kind or another. And I'm a student of it 547 00:29:15,596 --> 00:29:19,956 Speaker 1: in as it applies to jazz, you know. I just 548 00:29:20,636 --> 00:29:24,916 Speaker 1: love that. I love to try it myself and feel 549 00:29:24,916 --> 00:29:28,756 Speaker 1: like I'm you know, inventing right now, and it kind 550 00:29:28,796 --> 00:29:30,916 Speaker 1: of calls upon you to be it obliges you to 551 00:29:30,956 --> 00:29:34,036 Speaker 1: be present, you know, which is sort of overlaps with 552 00:29:34,076 --> 00:29:37,356 Speaker 1: another of my interests. You know, I've exposed my had 553 00:29:37,396 --> 00:29:42,796 Speaker 1: some exposure to Kartal for instance, you know, and be 554 00:29:42,956 --> 00:29:47,116 Speaker 1: here now from the sixties around us and stuff. So 555 00:29:47,476 --> 00:29:50,876 Speaker 1: that's that's been part of my you know, appetite and 556 00:29:50,916 --> 00:29:54,716 Speaker 1: interest all along. So it does all those things. But jazz. 557 00:29:54,756 --> 00:29:57,236 Speaker 1: When I saw that movie which I'll bet you like, 558 00:29:57,876 --> 00:30:01,356 Speaker 1: Around Midnight with Herbie Hancock playing a part in it 559 00:30:01,396 --> 00:30:04,316 Speaker 1: and Dexter Gordon, of course, I when I saw that 560 00:30:04,396 --> 00:30:07,036 Speaker 1: in the theater, I just started to cry. At one point, 561 00:30:07,316 --> 00:30:10,116 Speaker 1: tears sprang out of my eyes when they started to 562 00:30:10,156 --> 00:30:12,316 Speaker 1: play something, and there was no reason, there was no lyric. 563 00:30:12,356 --> 00:30:14,796 Speaker 1: There weren't lyrics too. It was of course an instrumental 564 00:30:14,916 --> 00:30:17,436 Speaker 1: and it was herb playing something. And it was just 565 00:30:17,556 --> 00:30:23,396 Speaker 1: the complication and the lushness and of the chords that 566 00:30:23,676 --> 00:30:27,396 Speaker 1: just did something to me. And of course all those practitioners, 567 00:30:27,436 --> 00:30:32,316 Speaker 1: their their devotion, lifelong devotion to it and a sacred 568 00:30:32,356 --> 00:30:36,396 Speaker 1: you know, romance with it is just you know, hits 569 00:30:36,476 --> 00:30:40,316 Speaker 1: me hard. Yeah. And then we had a little forty 570 00:30:40,316 --> 00:30:42,596 Speaker 1: five player, my sister and I who was two years younger, 571 00:30:42,756 --> 00:30:45,516 Speaker 1: and she and I would collect these things. Oh boy, 572 00:30:45,636 --> 00:30:48,196 Speaker 1: we had. There were a couple that we just played 573 00:30:48,236 --> 00:30:50,956 Speaker 1: over and over again. I got the Stevie Wonder record 574 00:30:51,076 --> 00:30:54,756 Speaker 1: of for Once in My Life that I played over 575 00:30:54,796 --> 00:30:57,596 Speaker 1: and I must have played in thousands of times. And 576 00:30:57,636 --> 00:30:59,796 Speaker 1: now I've come to meet him and know him a 577 00:30:59,796 --> 00:31:01,916 Speaker 1: little bit. Believe it or not, he stopped in to 578 00:31:01,996 --> 00:31:05,596 Speaker 1: the recording one of the recording sessions on our first album. 579 00:31:05,716 --> 00:31:09,596 Speaker 1: How frightening was that? I know, I just or him. 580 00:31:09,716 --> 00:31:11,676 Speaker 1: I've adored him my whole life. But we all these 581 00:31:11,676 --> 00:31:16,076 Speaker 1: forty five's, we played over and over again. We played 582 00:31:16,116 --> 00:31:19,836 Speaker 1: this Peggy Lee song. Is that all there is? Uh? 583 00:31:20,436 --> 00:31:23,316 Speaker 1: We had a little forty five of that. Uh, you know, 584 00:31:23,396 --> 00:31:26,036 Speaker 1: so it was it was all over the place. Yeah, 585 00:31:26,076 --> 00:31:28,156 Speaker 1: So what do you say to Stevie wonder when you 586 00:31:28,196 --> 00:31:30,436 Speaker 1: meet him, because people must come up to you all 587 00:31:30,436 --> 00:31:32,436 Speaker 1: the time and want you know, it's like, this is 588 00:31:32,476 --> 00:31:36,316 Speaker 1: my chance, this is Jeff Goldblum. What do I say? Well, 589 00:31:36,396 --> 00:31:39,796 Speaker 1: so I'm sensitive to you know how you know, he 590 00:31:39,876 --> 00:31:43,876 Speaker 1: must be beleaguered um. And you know his wife was 591 00:31:44,116 --> 00:31:46,796 Speaker 1: very nice. We've become friendly with his wife. We were 592 00:31:46,796 --> 00:31:48,636 Speaker 1: on a cruise. It was a kind of an intimate, 593 00:31:48,916 --> 00:31:52,036 Speaker 1: a semi intimate, you know, setting where we first met. 594 00:31:52,356 --> 00:31:56,756 Speaker 1: And he couldn't have been sweeter. I was very nice. 595 00:31:56,796 --> 00:31:59,716 Speaker 1: And you know, as you can imagine, Uh, he touches 596 00:31:59,756 --> 00:32:02,036 Speaker 1: you and I touched you know, we were holding hands 597 00:32:02,036 --> 00:32:05,196 Speaker 1: a little bit and you know, um, uh you know 598 00:32:05,236 --> 00:32:08,596 Speaker 1: I said into his ear, you know, you know, it 599 00:32:08,636 --> 00:32:10,596 Speaker 1: was a little always year around. I said, you know 600 00:32:10,636 --> 00:32:13,316 Speaker 1: how much I adored him and this and that, and 601 00:32:13,636 --> 00:32:15,636 Speaker 1: you know we talked. He couldn't have been sweeter. He 602 00:32:15,996 --> 00:32:17,836 Speaker 1: was just great. It was one of the thrills of 603 00:32:17,876 --> 00:32:20,756 Speaker 1: my life. Amazing. It's like the time I met Muhammad 604 00:32:20,756 --> 00:32:22,996 Speaker 1: Ali and his wife. It was later. He was a 605 00:32:22,996 --> 00:32:28,756 Speaker 1: little bit already getting a little bit uh challenged and 606 00:32:28,076 --> 00:32:34,476 Speaker 1: uh and he said, oh, Jeff, Jeff Goldman, you scared me. 607 00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:37,676 Speaker 1: You scared me. I said, what do you what do 608 00:32:37,716 --> 00:32:40,196 Speaker 1: you mean? His wife said, oh, Jeff, we saw the fly. 609 00:32:40,316 --> 00:32:44,556 Speaker 1: We just saw the fly. He said. I said, well, Champ, 610 00:32:44,636 --> 00:32:46,796 Speaker 1: I just so I got a little weepy. I said, 611 00:32:46,836 --> 00:32:49,436 Speaker 1: I just adore you so much and I've always, I've 612 00:32:49,436 --> 00:32:51,476 Speaker 1: always You've meant so much to me, and thank you 613 00:32:51,556 --> 00:32:53,956 Speaker 1: so much. And he said, well, where you know, I 614 00:32:54,036 --> 00:32:57,556 Speaker 1: may come over and knock on your door someday and 615 00:32:58,276 --> 00:33:01,636 Speaker 1: come over and visit you. I said, oh, Champ, that 616 00:33:01,676 --> 00:33:05,036 Speaker 1: would be just just great anyway. You never I never 617 00:33:05,036 --> 00:33:07,676 Speaker 1: got a chance to, or he never did. But I just, uh, 618 00:33:07,836 --> 00:33:10,556 Speaker 1: you know, I'm very easy start strike by a couple 619 00:33:10,596 --> 00:33:15,116 Speaker 1: of types, especially Stevie Wonder and Muhammad Ali are too 620 00:33:15,116 --> 00:33:18,916 Speaker 1: good times. Oh Man, you're telling me, you're telling me. 621 00:33:19,356 --> 00:33:21,756 Speaker 1: It's funny too, because I guess a lot of people, 622 00:33:22,036 --> 00:33:24,716 Speaker 1: you know, people probably have seen The Big Chill, And 623 00:33:25,276 --> 00:33:27,276 Speaker 1: a big part of that movie is the soundtrack and 624 00:33:27,316 --> 00:33:29,636 Speaker 1: a lot of people you know of your cohort, it's 625 00:33:29,636 --> 00:33:31,796 Speaker 1: like that's the soundtrack of their growing up. You know, 626 00:33:31,836 --> 00:33:34,516 Speaker 1: the Stones and the mo all the Motown, which of 627 00:33:34,516 --> 00:33:36,396 Speaker 1: course Steve is a part of. But it seems like 628 00:33:36,396 --> 00:33:40,276 Speaker 1: you were more jazz geared than like, you know, Beatles 629 00:33:40,316 --> 00:33:42,636 Speaker 1: and the Who and or were you did you also 630 00:33:42,636 --> 00:33:44,076 Speaker 1: listen to a lot of rock and roll, and I 631 00:33:44,556 --> 00:33:47,716 Speaker 1: was jazz geared. I had a big thing for jazz. 632 00:33:47,916 --> 00:33:50,796 Speaker 1: But but at art when I went to this little 633 00:33:50,876 --> 00:33:53,916 Speaker 1: kind of provincial, small town school. We were in the 634 00:33:53,916 --> 00:33:57,716 Speaker 1: suburbs of Pittsburgh, and we used to have little dances. 635 00:33:57,756 --> 00:33:59,796 Speaker 1: But right around that time, let me see, I was 636 00:33:59,796 --> 00:34:02,636 Speaker 1: born in fifty two, so when I was like thirteen, 637 00:34:03,036 --> 00:34:08,196 Speaker 1: coming of a particular age, it's now, why fifty two 638 00:34:08,356 --> 00:34:12,236 Speaker 1: sixty five something like that. And look up the hits 639 00:34:12,956 --> 00:34:16,396 Speaker 1: that we had at our at our lunch time, you know, 640 00:34:16,516 --> 00:34:20,356 Speaker 1: dances and all, and they played all motown stuff, so 641 00:34:20,476 --> 00:34:24,636 Speaker 1: you know, Diana Ross and the Supremes and Marvin Gay 642 00:34:24,676 --> 00:34:28,716 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Where I was really into Ray Charles. 643 00:34:28,716 --> 00:34:33,716 Speaker 1: I was into real early. And then the only kind 644 00:34:33,756 --> 00:34:37,036 Speaker 1: of rock stuff, you know, it would come on the radio, 645 00:34:37,116 --> 00:34:39,836 Speaker 1: but rock stuff. My brother, the same brother who was 646 00:34:39,916 --> 00:34:43,036 Speaker 1: interested in jazz, took me over to his apartment once 647 00:34:43,076 --> 00:34:45,076 Speaker 1: he'd already moved out of the house. When I was like, 648 00:34:45,116 --> 00:34:47,836 Speaker 1: I don't know, fifteen sixteen. I looked up to him 649 00:34:48,036 --> 00:34:51,836 Speaker 1: and he had a bunch of Beatles albums and introduced 650 00:34:51,836 --> 00:34:55,076 Speaker 1: me for the first time to you know, the White Album, 651 00:34:55,156 --> 00:34:59,276 Speaker 1: Sergeant Peppers and Magical Mystery Tour, and I loved those, 652 00:34:59,356 --> 00:35:01,716 Speaker 1: you know, they's had a big made a big impression 653 00:35:01,756 --> 00:35:04,396 Speaker 1: on me. Yeah. What an era of music to be 654 00:35:04,476 --> 00:35:09,236 Speaker 1: a young person. I know, it was totally magical. I know. Oh, 655 00:35:09,276 --> 00:35:11,996 Speaker 1: I feel very lucky to have been right where I 656 00:35:12,116 --> 00:35:15,556 Speaker 1: was somehow and in New York. And you know, I 657 00:35:15,596 --> 00:35:18,036 Speaker 1: had a really cool time too, for not only for acting, 658 00:35:18,036 --> 00:35:19,796 Speaker 1: but music, you know. I mean you could still go 659 00:35:19,836 --> 00:35:23,076 Speaker 1: into any jazz club and see incredible people, or go 660 00:35:23,156 --> 00:35:26,796 Speaker 1: to Glench Village and you know insane. Yeah. Yeah, what 661 00:35:26,836 --> 00:35:29,036 Speaker 1: would you do like on off nights when you weren't 662 00:35:29,076 --> 00:35:32,716 Speaker 1: working in New York City. Well, I wish i'd, like 663 00:35:32,836 --> 00:35:36,476 Speaker 1: I said about my you know now, you know, encounter 664 00:35:36,596 --> 00:35:39,436 Speaker 1: with some people. Sometimes I didn't know who I was 665 00:35:39,476 --> 00:35:42,676 Speaker 1: with or where I was. I wish I'd looked around 666 00:35:42,716 --> 00:35:44,996 Speaker 1: more because I was a very focused kind of acting student, 667 00:35:45,356 --> 00:35:47,236 Speaker 1: and you know, I had things to do and I 668 00:35:47,276 --> 00:35:50,556 Speaker 1: was very good at that that point. But my friend 669 00:35:50,596 --> 00:35:52,836 Speaker 1: Tom Pearson, who was in who was the leader of 670 00:35:52,836 --> 00:35:56,436 Speaker 1: the band and a piano player, took me to a 671 00:35:56,476 --> 00:35:58,796 Speaker 1: couple of gigs and I remember I think we saw 672 00:35:59,316 --> 00:36:03,436 Speaker 1: Wayne Shorter and saw some very kind of you know, 673 00:36:03,916 --> 00:36:06,276 Speaker 1: new stuff that they were doing that was you know, 674 00:36:06,876 --> 00:36:12,356 Speaker 1: atonal and went on and that was really something else 675 00:36:12,956 --> 00:36:17,316 Speaker 1: were we were there. Yeah, yeah, I wish i'd I 676 00:36:17,316 --> 00:36:20,596 Speaker 1: could have appreciated where I was more and everything that 677 00:36:20,636 --> 00:36:23,756 Speaker 1: I might have exposed myself to more. Probably just like now, 678 00:36:24,036 --> 00:36:27,676 Speaker 1: there's probably right in my own backyard things that if 679 00:36:27,716 --> 00:36:33,236 Speaker 1: I were fully awake, fully awakened, I would cherish investigate 680 00:36:33,356 --> 00:36:36,596 Speaker 1: and understand more. You know, I'm sure there are things 681 00:36:36,636 --> 00:36:38,996 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, well that goes back to the b here. 682 00:36:39,036 --> 00:36:41,516 Speaker 1: Now you're just supposed to be happy here in the 683 00:36:41,596 --> 00:36:46,316 Speaker 1: moment present, where you are. It's all enough, I think, so. 684 00:36:46,716 --> 00:36:51,196 Speaker 1: I think so we're getting exactly what we need right 685 00:36:51,316 --> 00:36:55,436 Speaker 1: here right now somehow. Yep. What drove you to acting, 686 00:36:55,516 --> 00:36:59,396 Speaker 1: primarily given your sort of early leanings towards piano and 687 00:36:59,516 --> 00:37:02,876 Speaker 1: music and performing with you know, at these bars. Yeah, 688 00:37:02,956 --> 00:37:06,076 Speaker 1: it's a little mysterious. All of this is a little mysterious. 689 00:37:06,116 --> 00:37:10,076 Speaker 1: I just was I are my parents once again, you know, 690 00:37:10,116 --> 00:37:13,956 Speaker 1: exposed us to you know, theater. We went to children's theater. 691 00:37:13,996 --> 00:37:15,916 Speaker 1: I remember early on when I went to at the 692 00:37:15,956 --> 00:37:21,356 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Playhouse. Uh, some a couple of shows, you know 693 00:37:21,636 --> 00:37:23,756 Speaker 1: for kids, I don't know, Beauty and the Beast or 694 00:37:23,876 --> 00:37:28,396 Speaker 1: you know, something like that. I just was very excitable 695 00:37:28,916 --> 00:37:35,036 Speaker 1: about because of it. And uh and I remember thinking, 696 00:37:35,436 --> 00:37:37,836 Speaker 1: who are those people who are doing that? What are 697 00:37:37,876 --> 00:37:40,396 Speaker 1: they doing backstage? What's how do how do you do 698 00:37:40,476 --> 00:37:43,236 Speaker 1: something like that? And that you know, it just happened 699 00:37:43,276 --> 00:37:45,276 Speaker 1: like that, and then uh, well I took those summer 700 00:37:45,316 --> 00:37:51,556 Speaker 1: classes Attornegue Million University. I was already yearning for some 701 00:37:51,756 --> 00:37:56,476 Speaker 1: kind of part of me that was as yet unexplored 702 00:37:57,196 --> 00:38:00,716 Speaker 1: in this, like I say, small town kind of school. 703 00:38:01,276 --> 00:38:03,636 Speaker 1: And I think it had something to do with listen 704 00:38:03,676 --> 00:38:08,956 Speaker 1: to this. My parents had had parts of them unexplored, 705 00:38:09,596 --> 00:38:15,276 Speaker 1: potentially unrealized, that were theatrical. My mom early on had 706 00:38:15,316 --> 00:38:19,236 Speaker 1: some kind of experience where a scout of some kind 707 00:38:19,396 --> 00:38:22,436 Speaker 1: said she should, you know, leave Pittsburgh go to New 708 00:38:22,516 --> 00:38:24,316 Speaker 1: York And her mom said no, no way that I 709 00:38:24,356 --> 00:38:27,276 Speaker 1: don't know. And then my dad, at some point in 710 00:38:27,436 --> 00:38:30,436 Speaker 1: his you know, the late teens, thought, because he was 711 00:38:30,476 --> 00:38:33,076 Speaker 1: trying to get out of poverty and make something of himself, 712 00:38:33,476 --> 00:38:35,796 Speaker 1: thought for some reason he was either going to be 713 00:38:35,836 --> 00:38:38,556 Speaker 1: a doctor or an actor. And he said he stuck 714 00:38:38,596 --> 00:38:41,196 Speaker 1: his head in the back of a class at Carnegie Tech, 715 00:38:41,356 --> 00:38:44,796 Speaker 1: which Carnegie Mellon was then called, and he thought to himself. 716 00:38:44,796 --> 00:38:47,956 Speaker 1: He reported to us that it was out of his league. 717 00:38:47,996 --> 00:38:50,716 Speaker 1: I don't know what he meant by that. Maybe it 718 00:38:50,396 --> 00:38:52,636 Speaker 1: was that it was emotionally, because he was always a 719 00:38:52,636 --> 00:38:56,156 Speaker 1: little bit conservative emotionally, I think, even though an authentic 720 00:38:56,196 --> 00:39:00,116 Speaker 1: person of deep feeling, you know, he was not theatrical. 721 00:39:00,196 --> 00:39:02,556 Speaker 1: He thought maybe and so he was a doctor. He 722 00:39:02,556 --> 00:39:05,236 Speaker 1: became a good doctor, h and like that. So maybe 723 00:39:05,316 --> 00:39:10,156 Speaker 1: the lost you know, hot potatoes of unreal used talent 724 00:39:10,876 --> 00:39:14,276 Speaker 1: and interest. It came to me somehow, and maybe that 725 00:39:14,356 --> 00:39:15,996 Speaker 1: had something to do with it. You know, who knows. 726 00:39:16,356 --> 00:39:18,476 Speaker 1: Do you think your parents saw it the same way? 727 00:39:18,636 --> 00:39:21,556 Speaker 1: Like you were living out this dream that they had 728 00:39:21,636 --> 00:39:24,556 Speaker 1: in a way, And they never said, if I can 729 00:39:24,596 --> 00:39:28,556 Speaker 1: remember rightly, I don't ever recall a conversation where they said, hey, 730 00:39:29,316 --> 00:39:31,796 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't do it, but you do it 731 00:39:32,036 --> 00:39:33,716 Speaker 1: or you know. And I don't think it was a 732 00:39:33,756 --> 00:39:37,036 Speaker 1: conspicuous and ever present part of their current adult life 733 00:39:37,036 --> 00:39:39,116 Speaker 1: where they were like, oh, I should have been an actor. 734 00:39:39,196 --> 00:39:41,916 Speaker 1: I don't think they thought that. So it never came 735 00:39:41,996 --> 00:39:43,796 Speaker 1: up like that. And I don't know if it ever 736 00:39:43,836 --> 00:39:46,236 Speaker 1: even accurac to them or they said to themselves. But 737 00:39:46,596 --> 00:39:49,476 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, they were both kind of tickled 738 00:39:50,396 --> 00:39:54,076 Speaker 1: by the idea that I was doing some of this stuff. 739 00:39:54,116 --> 00:39:56,116 Speaker 1: And like I say, music, you know, my dad was like, 740 00:39:56,156 --> 00:39:58,796 Speaker 1: you know, listen to Errol Garner. Listen, listen, he likes 741 00:39:58,836 --> 00:40:01,316 Speaker 1: the pauses, and listen how brave he is there, and 742 00:40:01,356 --> 00:40:03,916 Speaker 1: it would go bah baha and these octaves that he 743 00:40:04,036 --> 00:40:06,196 Speaker 1: kind of knew he had a music appreciation and a 744 00:40:06,836 --> 00:40:10,116 Speaker 1: real kind of appetite for it. And so you know 745 00:40:10,156 --> 00:40:12,116 Speaker 1: that when they drove me and I could see, you know, 746 00:40:12,196 --> 00:40:14,516 Speaker 1: they were I'm sure grinning, you know, at me playing 747 00:40:14,516 --> 00:40:17,076 Speaker 1: at these cocktail lounges. And then a couple of years later, 748 00:40:17,156 --> 00:40:19,636 Speaker 1: once I was in New York and did one of 749 00:40:19,636 --> 00:40:22,236 Speaker 1: my early plays. I did a play called City Sugar. 750 00:40:22,356 --> 00:40:25,156 Speaker 1: It was by Stephen Poliakoff, a British writer where I 751 00:40:25,236 --> 00:40:27,556 Speaker 1: was the lead character and a kind of off Broadway 752 00:40:28,356 --> 00:40:31,276 Speaker 1: theater and it was the first big part that I'd had, 753 00:40:31,556 --> 00:40:34,116 Speaker 1: and my dad and they, my parents came to see it. 754 00:40:34,556 --> 00:40:40,316 Speaker 1: And after the show, my dad came back stage and 755 00:40:40,476 --> 00:40:44,516 Speaker 1: he burst into tears and he threw his arms around 756 00:40:44,676 --> 00:40:48,356 Speaker 1: me and hugged me. And it wasn't either of those things, 757 00:40:48,836 --> 00:40:52,196 Speaker 1: the tears part and the hugging part were. It's uncharacteristic 758 00:40:52,836 --> 00:40:56,396 Speaker 1: and it really it really got him. And now that 759 00:40:56,436 --> 00:40:58,396 Speaker 1: i'm thinking of it, when I was, when I was 760 00:40:59,116 --> 00:41:04,916 Speaker 1: going to Carnegie Melon and coming back, he said a 761 00:41:05,036 --> 00:41:08,476 Speaker 1: very memorable moment for me. He said, I was there 762 00:41:08,556 --> 00:41:12,276 Speaker 1: and he said to my mom, well, look, as I 763 00:41:12,316 --> 00:41:13,836 Speaker 1: was saying, oh, this is what we learned that I 764 00:41:14,676 --> 00:41:17,916 Speaker 1: was kind of chattering up. He said, look, the kid 765 00:41:18,036 --> 00:41:23,116 Speaker 1: is stimulated. He said, the kid is stimulated. And I 766 00:41:23,236 --> 00:41:25,996 Speaker 1: remember that. I think it. I think he appreciated because 767 00:41:25,996 --> 00:41:27,636 Speaker 1: he had said to me, he had said, you know, 768 00:41:27,716 --> 00:41:29,116 Speaker 1: I don't care what you do. You don't have to 769 00:41:29,116 --> 00:41:31,276 Speaker 1: be a doctor like me, but if you find something 770 00:41:31,316 --> 00:41:34,196 Speaker 1: you love to do, that's a compass and a key 771 00:41:34,236 --> 00:41:37,596 Speaker 1: to your uh you know, vocational choice. So he was 772 00:41:37,636 --> 00:41:41,396 Speaker 1: smart and uh and he realized that that that I'd 773 00:41:41,436 --> 00:41:44,956 Speaker 1: sort of found something. Yeah about that, the soulful guy, 774 00:41:44,996 --> 00:41:46,836 Speaker 1: your dad was especially for a doctor. You know, you 775 00:41:46,836 --> 00:41:50,076 Speaker 1: don't think of a doctor's being so open and disencouraging 776 00:41:50,156 --> 00:41:52,676 Speaker 1: and to hear this stuff in the music and explain 777 00:41:52,716 --> 00:41:54,356 Speaker 1: it to you and take the time. Yeah, he was 778 00:41:54,396 --> 00:41:58,996 Speaker 1: actually very lucky, you know, very grateful for the parents 779 00:41:58,996 --> 00:42:00,396 Speaker 1: that I had. You know, it's not as if I've 780 00:42:00,516 --> 00:42:04,636 Speaker 1: gone through my life without oh, you know, dark struggles 781 00:42:04,636 --> 00:42:07,156 Speaker 1: of one kind or another, and I think healthy struggles 782 00:42:07,156 --> 00:42:11,516 Speaker 1: where I'd find my own separate identity from theirs. But 783 00:42:11,756 --> 00:42:15,316 Speaker 1: in fact, I'm very grateful for those two parents. They 784 00:42:15,316 --> 00:42:18,636 Speaker 1: were just the right combo for for me to have 785 00:42:18,676 --> 00:42:22,156 Speaker 1: wound up right here, right now. And uh and yeah, 786 00:42:22,196 --> 00:42:26,076 Speaker 1: he was, you know, for in any objective way, kind 787 00:42:26,076 --> 00:42:32,156 Speaker 1: of sophisticated, soulful uh wi. Uh wise, fella, how about that? 788 00:42:32,356 --> 00:42:36,516 Speaker 1: And very generous. Uh sweet, sweet guy, that's amazing. Do 789 00:42:36,556 --> 00:42:38,316 Speaker 1: you are you writing at all? Do you do you 790 00:42:38,316 --> 00:42:43,076 Speaker 1: ever are secretly composing any songs or anything unrealized? Do 791 00:42:43,116 --> 00:42:46,596 Speaker 1: you want to na? Not? Really, I don't really compose. 792 00:42:46,676 --> 00:42:54,276 Speaker 1: I don't really compose, although I must say the other day. Uh, Charlie. 793 00:42:54,436 --> 00:42:56,396 Speaker 1: We sat down and he brought me a couple of 794 00:42:56,996 --> 00:42:59,796 Speaker 1: blank sheets of you know, like a you know, printer paper, 795 00:43:00,236 --> 00:43:02,636 Speaker 1: and he said here right. Uh. He didn't know how 796 00:43:02,636 --> 00:43:04,796 Speaker 1: to say right or right music right. Let's let's make 797 00:43:04,876 --> 00:43:07,716 Speaker 1: up a song, uh, he said. So I wrote a staff. 798 00:43:07,796 --> 00:43:10,556 Speaker 1: I put the trouble cleft and I wrote the staff, 799 00:43:10,596 --> 00:43:12,836 Speaker 1: and he's and he did something and I wrote it down, 800 00:43:13,396 --> 00:43:15,476 Speaker 1: and then I added something to that, and then he 801 00:43:15,516 --> 00:43:17,396 Speaker 1: added something to that, and I wrote it all down. 802 00:43:17,436 --> 00:43:19,436 Speaker 1: It's on the piano in the living room right now, 803 00:43:19,996 --> 00:43:23,316 Speaker 1: and I like playing it. It's it's different. I wouldn't 804 00:43:23,356 --> 00:43:25,196 Speaker 1: have come up with it on my own. It's a 805 00:43:25,196 --> 00:43:27,156 Speaker 1: little I don't think we're letting a McCartney. But we 806 00:43:27,596 --> 00:43:29,276 Speaker 1: came up with something. It was fun. It's this a 807 00:43:29,316 --> 00:43:32,716 Speaker 1: side project. This is your new band. It was fun. Well, 808 00:43:32,756 --> 00:43:35,236 Speaker 1: we we like playing together. I got a couple of drums. 809 00:43:35,236 --> 00:43:37,916 Speaker 1: I got sbongo drums and a nice kind of conga 810 00:43:37,956 --> 00:43:40,876 Speaker 1: and and we all make sounds together. We like it. 811 00:43:41,036 --> 00:43:44,396 Speaker 1: That's amazing. If you had to put together a jazz 812 00:43:44,476 --> 00:43:48,476 Speaker 1: starter kit, which albums would it include? Well, that's a 813 00:43:48,596 --> 00:43:51,436 Speaker 1: good that's a good question. The guy I you know, 814 00:43:51,476 --> 00:43:54,996 Speaker 1: i'd i'd ask the guy for real, for the real 815 00:43:55,476 --> 00:43:58,356 Speaker 1: good answers. I'd ask Joe Bag and Alex Frank and 816 00:43:58,636 --> 00:44:03,236 Speaker 1: John Story. But let me see from my own personal experience. Well, 817 00:44:03,796 --> 00:44:06,836 Speaker 1: you know, because they're still turning me onto. You know, 818 00:44:06,876 --> 00:44:10,036 Speaker 1: Winton Kelly. I'm learning a solo of Wint Kelly's right now, 819 00:44:11,156 --> 00:44:14,396 Speaker 1: and I had not been so focused on him before. 820 00:44:14,436 --> 00:44:17,756 Speaker 1: So there's so many But you know, Oscar Peterson, if 821 00:44:17,756 --> 00:44:20,236 Speaker 1: you're interested in the piano, I'd listened to Oscar Peterson 822 00:44:20,236 --> 00:44:22,676 Speaker 1: and Bill Evans, and I like Keith Jarrett, and I 823 00:44:22,716 --> 00:44:27,676 Speaker 1: like Thelonious Monk. Anything by any of those guys. I 824 00:44:27,716 --> 00:44:31,436 Speaker 1: like She's You know, there's so many tributaries of that river. 825 00:44:31,636 --> 00:44:33,796 Speaker 1: You know that you can go down to kind of 826 00:44:33,796 --> 00:44:36,836 Speaker 1: personal taste, and you know, like I say, I'm still 827 00:44:36,836 --> 00:44:40,236 Speaker 1: getting turned on to so many different things now. But 828 00:44:40,276 --> 00:44:43,076 Speaker 1: though you know, Miles Davis, you know I do love 829 00:44:43,556 --> 00:44:47,276 Speaker 1: those those piano players, Oscar Peterson, Errold Gardner, Diloneous Monk, 830 00:44:47,316 --> 00:44:51,596 Speaker 1: all pretty different. Do you Is there anything you think 831 00:44:51,636 --> 00:44:53,636 Speaker 1: you taken from their playing you put in yours or 832 00:44:53,676 --> 00:44:55,716 Speaker 1: anything you ever playing And you're like, oh that I 833 00:44:55,756 --> 00:44:59,156 Speaker 1: got that from Oscar Well, Arlie Well, Oscar Peterson. You know, 834 00:44:59,196 --> 00:45:01,196 Speaker 1: you have to be content to get those chops. You know, 835 00:45:01,276 --> 00:45:03,916 Speaker 1: you can't just kind of even imitate those chops. But 836 00:45:03,996 --> 00:45:06,316 Speaker 1: I do like to do runs, and I do like 837 00:45:06,396 --> 00:45:09,636 Speaker 1: a couple of his Gospelly kind of voice things that 838 00:45:10,156 --> 00:45:12,356 Speaker 1: I've sort of tried to study a little bit that 839 00:45:12,436 --> 00:45:15,916 Speaker 1: I you know, I I love to listen and when 840 00:45:15,916 --> 00:45:19,916 Speaker 1: I listen, I feel like I'm immediately not that I 841 00:45:19,996 --> 00:45:23,716 Speaker 1: can reproduce it, but I'm immediately you know, influenced and 842 00:45:23,796 --> 00:45:26,476 Speaker 1: excited about it. And then Monk, of course, you know, 843 00:45:26,836 --> 00:45:31,676 Speaker 1: I like to play a hard, masculine, angular, unexpected fifth 844 00:45:32,076 --> 00:45:37,116 Speaker 1: down low and do something you know that's full of 845 00:45:37,196 --> 00:45:41,156 Speaker 1: ugly beauty, you know, all over, you know. And he's 846 00:45:41,276 --> 00:45:46,236 Speaker 1: very inspirational. Keith Jarrett, Oh the way he I like 847 00:45:46,356 --> 00:45:52,156 Speaker 1: the way he is has a kind of religious experience 848 00:45:52,556 --> 00:45:56,196 Speaker 1: that comes deeply out of him. And he's so sophisticated 849 00:45:56,196 --> 00:46:02,476 Speaker 1: and at the same time, you know, spontaneous with what 850 00:46:02,716 --> 00:46:07,436 Speaker 1: with a connection seemingly between his musical imagination and his 851 00:46:07,596 --> 00:46:13,516 Speaker 1: fingers and he hears, which is so brilliant. You know immediately, 852 00:46:14,236 --> 00:46:16,956 Speaker 1: you know, making music like that, it's a beautiful thing 853 00:46:16,956 --> 00:46:19,516 Speaker 1: to watch, you know, I love it. Have you have 854 00:46:19,516 --> 00:46:22,436 Speaker 1: you seen him at all? Ever? No, I'd love to 855 00:46:23,076 --> 00:46:26,036 Speaker 1: I'd love to you. Yeah. Some of the Concert Hall 856 00:46:26,076 --> 00:46:28,396 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six when I was like sixteen, 857 00:46:28,516 --> 00:46:31,276 Speaker 1: saved a bunch of months. It was expensive, but about 858 00:46:31,276 --> 00:46:33,636 Speaker 1: a ticket went and it was it was solo and 859 00:46:33,796 --> 00:46:36,556 Speaker 1: improbably did a solo improv and it was it was 860 00:46:36,596 --> 00:46:39,876 Speaker 1: mind blowing. Oh, mind blind. I'd love to have seen that. 861 00:46:39,916 --> 00:46:42,116 Speaker 1: If I had a time machine, maybe that's that's the 862 00:46:42,156 --> 00:46:44,436 Speaker 1: reason to go back. I'd go back with you and 863 00:46:44,436 --> 00:46:47,476 Speaker 1: we'd watch it again. Cool. I'm so curious about this. 864 00:46:47,516 --> 00:46:50,956 Speaker 1: I've heard you refer to yourself as a late bloomer. Well, 865 00:46:50,956 --> 00:46:54,636 Speaker 1: true enough, yeah, yeah, So how does that manifest itself? 866 00:46:54,956 --> 00:46:58,076 Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? How are you blooming? Well? 867 00:46:58,436 --> 00:47:00,636 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, first of all, here I am 868 00:47:00,676 --> 00:47:03,836 Speaker 1: at the age I'm at and I've have a five 869 00:47:03,916 --> 00:47:05,716 Speaker 1: year old and three almost a five year old and 870 00:47:05,756 --> 00:47:11,116 Speaker 1: a three year old, so that's late blooming and fertility 871 00:47:11,116 --> 00:47:17,156 Speaker 1: of some kind. And my teacher, Sanford Meisner, was very good. 872 00:47:17,156 --> 00:47:22,396 Speaker 1: He said that it takes a serious two decades, twenty 873 00:47:22,476 --> 00:47:26,436 Speaker 1: years of continual work before you can even call yourself 874 00:47:26,476 --> 00:47:30,236 Speaker 1: an actor, meaning that you it really takes that much 875 00:47:30,276 --> 00:47:35,036 Speaker 1: time before you can grow in yourself inside the life 876 00:47:35,796 --> 00:47:40,476 Speaker 1: of an actor and how you really live and use 877 00:47:40,556 --> 00:47:45,876 Speaker 1: things and see things and can function theatrically imaginatively and 878 00:47:46,076 --> 00:47:49,796 Speaker 1: know yourself and can use yourself, etcetera, etcetera. And then 879 00:47:50,036 --> 00:47:53,436 Speaker 1: he said after that, it takes a life time if 880 00:47:53,476 --> 00:47:58,476 Speaker 1: you're lucky, to keep getting opportunities of progress where you 881 00:47:58,516 --> 00:48:01,036 Speaker 1: can keep progressing. And that's the aim. That's what I'm 882 00:48:01,596 --> 00:48:03,716 Speaker 1: recommend to you and steady, And I think I took 883 00:48:03,756 --> 00:48:06,396 Speaker 1: that to heart. So even if I wasn't made of 884 00:48:06,396 --> 00:48:08,596 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, although I think I was a 885 00:48:08,716 --> 00:48:12,476 Speaker 1: kind of slow learner of some kind, and you know, 886 00:48:13,356 --> 00:48:15,876 Speaker 1: I took it to heart and have sort of at 887 00:48:15,956 --> 00:48:19,476 Speaker 1: least imagine that I have designed. But there's some design 888 00:48:19,476 --> 00:48:22,796 Speaker 1: that's a little bit like that for my arc, you know, 889 00:48:22,916 --> 00:48:26,436 Speaker 1: not only acting wise, but musically certainly. I mean, I'm 890 00:48:26,436 --> 00:48:31,196 Speaker 1: at a time right now of more flourishing and flowering 891 00:48:31,316 --> 00:48:34,476 Speaker 1: than ever with these records and with what I'm doing. 892 00:48:34,516 --> 00:48:37,276 Speaker 1: I'm playing better than ever. I played this morning, better 893 00:48:37,596 --> 00:48:40,756 Speaker 1: than I played yesterday, and ever. I think I look 894 00:48:40,836 --> 00:48:44,156 Speaker 1: for that, and I think I'm that's what's happening. And 895 00:48:44,556 --> 00:48:46,756 Speaker 1: in life, my gosh, here I am with these kids 896 00:48:46,796 --> 00:48:49,276 Speaker 1: and learning by leaps and bounds, and I've got this 897 00:48:49,356 --> 00:48:52,436 Speaker 1: show that world, according to Jeff Goldblum, where I'm ostensibly 898 00:48:52,756 --> 00:48:56,756 Speaker 1: to make use of my curiosity and my you know learning, 899 00:48:56,836 --> 00:49:00,636 Speaker 1: you know, you know, exposing myself while in the learning curve. 900 00:49:01,556 --> 00:49:04,276 Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm full of I'm a humble student 901 00:49:04,316 --> 00:49:08,356 Speaker 1: and full of eager learning. So I am I think 902 00:49:08,396 --> 00:49:11,916 Speaker 1: I'm I think I'm blooming late. Yeah, it's I mean, 903 00:49:11,916 --> 00:49:14,916 Speaker 1: it's super inspiring because so many people just reach a 904 00:49:14,956 --> 00:49:17,996 Speaker 1: certain age or point in life and just sort of 905 00:49:17,996 --> 00:49:20,876 Speaker 1: shut down, you know, and whether it's shutting down to 906 00:49:21,036 --> 00:49:25,916 Speaker 1: like even discovering new music or anything. It's people can 907 00:49:25,956 --> 00:49:29,476 Speaker 1: get so rigid. Yeah, so it's it's really nice to 908 00:49:29,516 --> 00:49:32,076 Speaker 1: hear that. Oh, thank you. Well, I was exposed to 909 00:49:32,116 --> 00:49:33,956 Speaker 1: have the right idea here and there, and I do 910 00:49:34,036 --> 00:49:37,596 Speaker 1: aspire to it, and and uh, you know, I try 911 00:49:37,676 --> 00:49:42,436 Speaker 1: to lend. I'm sure I'm becoming brittle and and shriveled 912 00:49:42,436 --> 00:49:45,356 Speaker 1: and pretty soon I'll be all all gone. But but 913 00:49:45,716 --> 00:49:47,916 Speaker 1: you know, in the time that I have, however much 914 00:49:47,916 --> 00:49:51,916 Speaker 1: it is, I'm trying to supremely make the most of 915 00:49:51,996 --> 00:49:56,036 Speaker 1: the and cherish the opportunity. You know, cool, incredible. Thanks 916 00:49:56,076 --> 00:49:58,396 Speaker 1: for the time. I really appreciate it, Jeff, Thank you, Jeff, 917 00:49:58,636 --> 00:50:00,636 Speaker 1: thank you so much. It's such an honor to be 918 00:50:00,676 --> 00:50:03,516 Speaker 1: on this great show. I'm thrilled. Thank you so much. 919 00:50:06,716 --> 00:50:08,996 Speaker 1: Thanks to Jeff Goldbloom for chatting with Lee yet night. 920 00:50:09,756 --> 00:50:12,436 Speaker 1: Jeff Goldblan's new album I Shouldn't Be telling you this 921 00:50:12,636 --> 00:50:15,116 Speaker 1: is out now. 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