1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Is there a you know when when you hear that 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: the the Eagles, they say, Okay, we're not going to 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: play a lot of our guys, you know, Saquon Hurts. 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean, is it like a reselling job to your group? 5 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Now, Okay, we're not you know with Saquon, We're. 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Not dealing with herts. 7 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 3: We're not dealing with Smith, you know, you know. 8 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: AJ got her. 9 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole crew, right, kind of kind of like 10 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: have to readjust to the new guys and learned the 11 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: new guys from the backups. 12 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Then yeah, I think we got to do a good 13 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: job as a coaching staff making sure we present who 14 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: we think is gonna be out there for him and 15 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: they're gonna have to play some guys, right, Like it's 16 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: the NFL and you only got so many guys, So 17 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: that's part of it. We're preparing like any other week, 18 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: getting ready to go and and hopefully you guys are 19 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: ready ready to go play. And again like it's about 20 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: us too, right, we got to go out there and 21 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: hopefully end on a good note and and play a 22 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: little bit better than what we did last week. And 23 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: making sure we we still keep a little bit of 24 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: focus on us and how we go about our business 25 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: day by day and then ultimately come Sunday. 26 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: Would you have liked the challenge of trying to up. 27 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: From the record. 28 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's really good back. I mean we 29 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: paced them already this year, So really good back. I think, 30 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: really good O line and it's a really good offense. 31 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised by what he's been able to accomplish, 32 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: what they've been able to accomplish over there this year. 33 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: It's difficult as a as a defense, defensive coordinator, as 34 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: a defense to go up against saquon that O line. 35 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: AJ Smith got her obviously, Jalen Hurts and his ability 36 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: to throw the ball, and then you mix in the 37 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: ability to run the ball that they are a big 38 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: time challenge, right. So, I mean it's it's it's one 39 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: of those things. It's out of my control, like we 40 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: got and focus on our guys and making sure we're 41 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: ready to go and and doing everything we can to 42 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: kind of keep improving, keep building as we go. 43 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Here, there's a staff that Brian and Caveon have had 44 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: the highest success rate over the last few weeks as 45 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: far as their pass rush win rate. What is it 46 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: about that tandem that they've worked so well to yah 47 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: and scheme. 48 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. I think just being coordinated 49 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: at understanding who they are individually and as as a 50 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: unit up there with who we're playing with inside right 51 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: now as well, when they've had opportunities, they've been able 52 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,559 Speaker 2: to affect right, and again they've been minimal in comparison 53 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: to what we would like at times. But you saw 54 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: it last week. We got up on them, we were 55 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: able to rush. It was true passing situations, we were 56 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: able to affect the quarterback and get a get them 57 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: to throw an interception to us, right, and then we're 58 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: able to get back there and take it off of 59 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: them late. Right. So just continuing to buy into to 60 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: what we're trying to do and be able to create 61 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: some more of those opportunities. Like, I don't think we 62 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: are on third down enough right now, right, We're given 63 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: too many third and manageables where we need to create 64 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: some more third and longs where they get opportunities. But 65 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: I think the main thing for me with those two 66 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: is understanding who they are as rushers. Right, Let's let's 67 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: make sure we're focused on us and who we are, 68 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: and then as the coaching staff we got to go 69 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: off those strengths and hopefully coordinate it to where they 70 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: can compliment each other with the other two guys who 71 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: are in. 72 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: There, and not to take away from the other guys, 73 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: but this has happened since Dextra went down. So can 74 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: you just talk about, you know, the step just make 75 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: it all that more impressive. 76 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously when Dex is out there, pro bowler, right, 77 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: But obviously when he was out there, he garners a 78 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: lot of attention, as he should, so that comes into play. 79 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: But different offenses have different ways of kind of affecting 80 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: these guys, whether they chip with tight ends, they chip 81 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: with backs, trying to slow down these edges. But anytime 82 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: there's not as much focus on one guy inside, I 83 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: think it helps. But obviously to your point, obviously has 84 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: turned the other way a little bit for us. So 85 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: I think that's the credit to those guys making sure 86 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: they're ready to go and take advantage of the opportunities 87 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: when they get them. 88 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: Shame, this is the last time we'll talk to you 89 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: this season. No, that's probably disappointing for you. Last time 90 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: the fans will hear from you. What do you make 91 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: of Deontay Banks this season. It was the first time 92 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: the Giants tried him in the corner. Have one role 93 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: and his future going for it. 94 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think he's a he's a young player, right, 95 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: We got a lot of young players. It's here two 96 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: for him, just continuing to grow weekend, day in, day out, 97 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: continue to improve, continue to take take the leadership that's 98 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: given to him, take the coaching that's that's given to him, 99 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: and trying to find ways to get better at his 100 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: craft each day. Right. I mean, I've been pleased with them. 101 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: He comes to work every day. Obviously he would like 102 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: to have a little bit more production than what he's had, 103 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: and hopefully we can we can get there and he 104 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: can continue to progress to that. But again, he's got 105 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: the right mindset. It's just a matter of continue to 106 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: grow up, right like you got these young players, and 107 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: just figuring out the game what it is weekend wee 108 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: week out, day in, day out, and then ultimately being 109 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 2: able to go do it on Sundays. 110 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: Accountability big group of learning, you know, how to be 111 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: accountable at this level, you know in the NFL. 112 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's a that's a big 113 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: thing with with every player right, there's the accountability. It's 114 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: it's a big thing with the coaching staff, right, Like, 115 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: that's part of it. We're we're all in this together, 116 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: and all of us got to be able to take 117 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: ownership of our mistakes and be held accountable, to hold 118 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: ourselves accountable. Again, like, we're not going to get things 119 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: fixed until we know what's wrong, right, until we accept 120 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: that it's wrong and that we got to whether it's 121 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: me trying new things, doing something different, putting these guys 122 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: in positions that are more suitable to their skill sets 123 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: and what we're asking them to do. So I think 124 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: that's across the board. I think whenever you're young, just play, right, Like, 125 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: you got to get out there and play and keep 126 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 2: learning and hopefully we can show some of that accountability 127 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: from you learn. You learn by fire sometimes, right, Like 128 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: that's the NFL you're going up against. They get paid too, Right, 129 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: they get paid too. They're gonna make some plays and 130 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to be at your best. But let's 131 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: make sure that as a group, as an individual player, 132 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: we're doing everything on our end. Let's make them make 133 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: the play, Let's not give him anything. And and you've 134 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: got to be accountable to accountable to that, and hopefully 135 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: we can learn from those those trials as they come 136 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: and improve off of it. 137 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: That period there where he was taking the field a 138 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: couple of times. 139 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he came back and he battled. I do. 140 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 2: I thought he came back and he battled, And I 141 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: thought he has been everything we've expected him to be 142 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: week in and week out, just from a work perspective 143 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 2: here over these past five or six weeks, and obviously 144 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: last week had a tough game. I mean I felt 145 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: like he was in decent position on a few of those. 146 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: They're hand fighting on one and he kind of got 147 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: a little tug in there and got caught, and then 148 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: those other ones in a good spot for the most part, 149 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: I think he just got to make sure he gets 150 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: his head around and finds the ball quicker. Again. You're 151 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: you're running four four four three speed whatever it might be, 152 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: down the field, and all of a sudden, you got 153 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: to be able to locate the ball and have confidence 154 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: and make yourself comfortable in those uncomfortable positions because it 155 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: is hard. It is hard, and just continue to work 156 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: in those little techniques down the field where when we 157 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: find ourselves in those positions you think he's thinking so much. 158 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: Uh No, So. 159 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: I would just say, just you got go out and 160 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: let it display, go play. What did you make of 161 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: your first season here? 162 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we'll reflect a little bit next week. Obviously, 163 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: we'll dive into all that kind of where we're at. 164 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: I mean, the run game comes to mind, the X 165 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: play runs is something we got to improve upon. It's 166 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: something I felt like we have these past five to 167 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: six weeks. I mean, we've been holding teams under four 168 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: yards a carry, which is pretty good. But that's that's 169 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: the one thing that's kind of glaring to me. I 170 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: think situationally, we were we were really strong early on 171 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: those first ten weeks through the bye week. I think 172 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: that's kind of teetered off a little bit here lately. 173 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: I think some of those again like I mentioned earlier 174 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: eight and some more longer third third down situations. A 175 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: lot of third at shorts even showed up last week. 176 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: But we'll see. I'm probably guys and probably the way 177 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: they battled like they fought, and we've had a lot 178 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: of different guys in there who have made the most 179 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: of their opportunities they have, They they played hard, they 180 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: continue to stick together, battle through adversity throughout the season. 181 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: Credited them last week. I mean, we get a fourth 182 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: down stop, and we didn't play great, but we found 183 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: stops we needed to. Got a fourth and short stop, 184 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: which is a huge stop in the game after a 185 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: sudden change, failed fourth down attempt. We went out there 186 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: in three and out of them, and then we came 187 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: up with big plays late. So just probably resolved. Probably 188 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 2: probably guys that have stepped up and kind of contributed. 189 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: Like you know, coming in here, you inherited most of 190 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 2: your position. Coaches, what has it been like navigating then? 191 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: How is that? Yeah, it's been good. Honestly, I think 192 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: we got a really good group. Lean on those guys 193 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: a lot. Again, it's it's I said it before. It's 194 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: it's not my defense, it's already we're going to figure 195 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: it out and I won't take their input. And again 196 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: coming into a new situation, it's it's kind of a 197 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: benefit because just because the relationships and the familiarity with 198 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 2: the players, right, like they know these guys better than anybody, 199 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: So to be able to have that opinion, that view 200 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: of these guys really helped early on, and we've grown 201 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: as a staff as as it went, I feel like 202 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: I've got more comfortable with them, They've got more comfortable 203 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: to me. Just expectations, accountability, right, all those types of 204 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: things set in the standard of what we want to 205 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: do in the office on the field. So it's been good. 206 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: It has We've got a good group of guys and uh, 207 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: it's been enjoyable. Obviously, wish we would play a little 208 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: bit better at times and got some different results, but 209 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: I really like the guys that are here. 210 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: You know, you got to do some some changes and 211 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: everyone has. 212 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: To look and look do you think of next week 213 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: when you're on this shield? I think maybe I needed 214 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: I you know, did you do enough to change? Also 215 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: staying within what you want to do, what you believe in, 216 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 217 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: Is that something maybe? But next year you may really 218 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: explore Yeah. Absolutely, And I think anytime it always goes 219 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: back to the players. I think that's the main thing 220 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: for us as a coaching staff is making sure we 221 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: put the players in the best position to be successful 222 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: based on their skill set, based on experience, right, Like 223 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: a lot of different things kind of go into that. 224 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: I feel like we're pretty multiple with what we do 225 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: from a coverage standpoint, from ability to adjust as different 226 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: fronts pressures, whatever it might be. I feel like we 227 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: got a little bit of everything. Part of that conversation 228 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: is do you hone in and maybe scale back with 229 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: what you're trying to do. So, I mean, there's a 230 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: lot you look at, but for the most part, in 231 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: my mind, it comes down to the players, right like, 232 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: what can handle, what do they feel most comfortable with, 233 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: Where are they at their best where they can go 234 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: out and execute and perform on Sunday