1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Friday, November the seventh, and 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: thousands of flights were canceled or delayed before you even 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: woke up this morning, and it's only going to get worse. 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Today is the day mass cancelations across the board begin. 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: And you know where Robot and I decided to spend 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: our morning, Newark International Airport. And with that, welcome to 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and TJ. Rope. They said this 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: is going to happen. I'm not sure what I was expecting, 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: but this is kind of chaos that has ensued at 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: airports across the country today. 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: And this is just day one. It's supposed to get worse. 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: Day by day. 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: The percentage of cancelations is going to increase by one 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: percentage point. 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: So yes, today was four percent. 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: And we had a flight where we were boarding at 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: four forty am. So I think this is the earliest 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: flight I've ever taken in my life, and I've digging 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: six am flights plenty. But we got to the airport 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: around four twenty and it was chaos. 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, We're used to a certain level of chaos at 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: airports in New York, and but at that hour we're 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: not necessarily used to this kind of chaos, and the 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: chaos we were talking about I think what we were 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: referring to, and we talked about it being a weird morning. 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Things felt different, So the moods felt different. Certainly the 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: TSA workers felt different. We'll talk about that. But it 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: was like nothing was being done. Were it's not just 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: a long line, it's a line that's doing nothing. That 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: were like long lines of standing around, confusion, where do 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: we go? It just bottlenecks, And there were some weird 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: stuff this morning. 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: Look, we're all used to and I know there are 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: amazing and thank God for you TSA workers out there 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: by the way, who are working without paychecks, but in 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: the New York area, there tends to be a certain 37 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: level of apathy among TSA workers. Sometimes they just seem 38 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: like they're, you know, checking the boxes, which okay, fine, 39 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: but this was extra life. I don't give a whatever, 40 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: And I get it, I mean, I understand it emotionally 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: to a certain extent. But it created a very different 42 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: flying experience at an airport that already has a storied 43 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: and very notorious history, at least as of late. 44 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: So the at least for the country for the day, 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: you name the airport they had delays Chicago, Dallas, and Atlanta, Miami. Newark, 46 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: of course we're talking about Laguardier JFK. Just about every 47 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: airport across the country reporting significant delays. Newark delay because 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: of staffing. They're supposed to what you say, until noon, 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be short staff. 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: Yes, we'll see if noon suddenly they won't be short staff. 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: But yes, they specifically said until noon they are short staff. 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: Delay specifically at LGA because of staffing, you have forty 53 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: seven minute on average delays at the Austin Airport. They're 54 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: about a half hour at Reagan. And this was an 55 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: interesting thing how it's impacting even Hurts is getting a yes. 56 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: So HERTZ is reporting that they are seeing a twenty 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: percent uptick in reservations from today through the weekend compared 58 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 3: to this exact weekend last year. And they say it's 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: already becoming a day for today. Just one way car 60 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: rentals today is now starting to spike as well. Obviously 61 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: they don't have the full numbers yet because it's happening 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: as we speak, but we're talking about numbers that are 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: being reported around nine am ten am East Coast time. 64 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 3: The West Coast hasn't even really woken up yet, So imagine. 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: I remember I looked at you at the airport and 66 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: I said, if this is what's happening at four thirty 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: in the morning, I can't imagine what's happening at ten thirty, one, 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: thirty five thirty PM on a Friday. 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's snowballs. 70 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: It If it starts out bad, it usually does not. 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: Clear up later the day. So this was not by 72 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: design necessarily. If we could have avoided traveling right now, 73 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: we would have. But this has been on the books 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: for months for US. We the American Airlines flight eleven 75 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: ninety six this morning that left at five twenty am 76 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: coming to Miami landing and around eight twenty five. Now 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: we you certainly don't like early morning flights, certainly not 78 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: this crazy early. I'm not sure why this was booked 79 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: this way for US here for a charity event, blah 80 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: blahlah blah, but that's why we ended up at the. 81 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: Airport and the time love an early morning flight. 82 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: I'm still suspicious you didn't tell him, Hey, just book 83 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: the earliest flight you can. 84 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: No with you doing no, no, no, no, I've done this 85 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: enough with you, but I know you have your Even 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: if I say seven am, you may whoa, whoa, WHOA? 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Is there? 88 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: A seventh eight thirty am is the perfect morning flight. 89 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: I would not have done a five twenty to you 90 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: behind your back, I assure you. But this caused us. 91 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: We had a very early morning run that we posted 92 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: this morning because we had to get to the airport. 93 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: We didn't know what to expect. So our plan flights 94 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: at five twenty. We're gonna leave our house at three 95 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: forty five am. And we got off to a good. 96 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: Start, we certainly did. 97 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: And then our uber driver somehow couldn't find Terminal A 98 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: and missed the entire terminal. And when you're at Newark 99 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: Airport and you missed the first terminal, you now have 100 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: to go all the way around the whole thing. And 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: he started to leave the airport and go down ninety 102 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: five to which we then had to start yelling no, 103 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: stay to the left, and he then was completely frazzled 104 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: and started driving three miles an hour. 105 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: Yes, so we mentioned this, and I didn't think about 106 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: it this way until now. Yes, things happen on the 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: way to the airport. We gave ourselves plenty of time normally, 108 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: but we started to panic. We started to freak out 109 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: a little bit because of the situation with the shutdown, 110 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: with what's happening at airports. We didn't know what we 111 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: were going to greet inside. I'll tell you, so my 112 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: adrenaline got going when he started missing. 113 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: You were leaned forward and you were very attentive. Let's 114 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: just say, but look, and this is these are two travelers. 115 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: We obviously travel a lot. We have for our jobs 116 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: for many many years. Were tsa pre check. We're already 117 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: checked in, we already have our boarding passes. So it's 118 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: like we do everything we can to just walk on 119 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: the plane as much as possible. But even with all 120 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: of that in our arsenal, and a lot of folks 121 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: don't have that in their arsenal, we were still petrified 122 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 3: at that point that we were somehow going to and honestly, 123 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: with everything we went through, we walked to the gate. 124 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: As it was boarding, which is highly unusual for us. 125 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're usually there hanging out way ahead of time. 126 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: So we get it. We finally the guy for whatever 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: he's in, it's driving right past our airline once we 128 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: do get to the terminal. But it's fine, we up out, 129 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: we get inside. I don't think at first glance, remember 130 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: us walking in, I didn't think too much was up right. 131 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: It didn't seem yeah, and chaos. 132 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: We started making our way to the security line, the 133 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: TSA line, and this is where robes I guess. We 134 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: get into the TSA pre check line, and I thought 135 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: we were good. I acted, I said, Oh, this is 136 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. It wasn't a long line. 137 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: Nope, didn't did no. 138 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: But then even if the line that doesn't look that 139 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: bad doesn't move at all, suddenly you start getting worried. 140 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: I mean, and all the folks are the now bottlenecked 141 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: up to where the screening area is and no one 142 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: is moving at all. 143 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: So this is where I had my first I had 144 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: interaction with three TSA workers today, and two were a 145 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: couple of the worst I've ever had in my life. 146 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: One of them wasn't directed to me, but it was 147 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: at me. But it was still ugly. The first lady, 148 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: and it was my fault. Where you step up and 149 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: they take your picture, they write, and you're supposed to 150 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: give your ID or your boarding pass. Every airport seems 151 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: to be different, do they not? Some just want to 152 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: take your pictures, some want your ID, some just want 153 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: the boarding pass, right. I didn't know which one it was, 154 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: so I stepped up to take a picture and I 155 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: handed her my boarding pass and she says she needed 156 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: my ID, and I said, oh, ma'am, I apologize because 157 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: I knew the line was long. I'm sorry for everybody. 158 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: She starts going off on me about, uh, how do 159 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: you know you don't see the sign? I kept saying 160 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: the same thing. Only words I said to her, I apologize, 161 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: I apologize. Every time I said I apologized, she doubled 162 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: down on getting onto me for not reading a sign, 163 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: which I still don't know where it is. But she 164 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: actually scolded me there. Now, fine, that was on me. 165 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: I didn't have it out and I apologized, But I've 166 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: never had that experience at TSAO. 167 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: She needed. 168 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: You know what, I think, You've got a bunch of 169 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: workers who are worried about paying their bills. They're annoyed 170 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: and frustrated and probably pretty dang angry that they're at 171 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: work without any kind of pay, and so they need 172 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: some sort of power, some sort of control, some sort 173 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 3: of feeling that they have some sort of power over 174 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: the situation. They're powerless in every other way. So maybe 175 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: in this small, petty way you're seeing it play out 176 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: toward you. 177 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: Oh, I just saw it is frustration. I wasn't mad 178 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: at her for it, but she reacted in a way 179 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: that I haven't seen them react before. And that was 180 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: completely That was nothing else to be said. I did 181 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: not have my ID ready period point land, nothing else there. 182 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: But I was taken aback just by Wow. That really 183 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: set her off. Yeah, in a way that she didn't 184 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: just ugh or slam something. She reacted and came at 185 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: me over that, and that is not something I've experienced. 186 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: So I get to the conveyor. We you and I 187 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: got separated. Yes, we're right next to each other, and 188 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm five deep behind you because 189 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: nobody knew what to do and how to merge, I'm 190 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: behind you. I end up in another line and I'm 191 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: five behind you. I end up ten ahead. 192 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: Right because my conveyor belt just stopped moving. You know, 193 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: you picked the wrong wane. I always do, and so yes, 194 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: it just everything was slower. Everything was It almost felt 195 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: like it was deliberately in slow motion. And I know, 196 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: look we again, we get it. Things back up, they 197 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 3: see things. There are certain workers that are quicker or 198 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: are faster than others, but this seemed bizarre at the 199 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 3: conveyor belt. 200 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: This wasn't directed at me, but I'm standing you all 201 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: seen this before. You have to get your bin, you 202 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: put your stuff in it, but you have to push 203 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: it forward. Right. You're not supposed to move into your stuff. 204 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: Right goes up. It is confusing. Who knows absolutely I 205 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: push or should I push? 206 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: Now? 207 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't do automatically. So sure enough, the guy next 208 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: to me shoving his stuff. The woman is coming from 209 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: She is yelling at him from afar. Didn't I tell 210 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: you not to do that? You can't do this, you're 211 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: supposed to She's chastising him right there. I know he 212 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: messed up. But those are two experiences. We fly a lot, 213 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you've never seen that in all the fly. No, 214 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: that was we've never experienced. 215 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 3: There was a lot of anger and a lot of 216 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: just it didn't take much to set someone off, that's it. 217 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: And then your bag got pulleder like really again? 218 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: And you know we know not to put water or 219 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: liquids above three point five ounces. 220 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: I get that, but they pulled my bag and I 221 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: see another lady hovering over my bag. They're about to 222 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: examine it at TSA. The woman is standing right over. 223 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: I know I'm looking at my bag. She thinks it's hers. 224 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: The TSA agent is asking everybody whose bag is this? 225 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: The woman he raises her hand. I just stand there quietly. 226 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: The TSA agent doesn't even examine the bag. She just 227 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: looks at that. Lady looks at the bag. He says, ah, 228 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: you're good, and then I come up and I take 229 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,359 Speaker 1: the bag. 230 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: And she's like, wait what Yes, that was just a. 231 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: Weird little nothing. It's still it still happened. Now we 232 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: got on the plane. I think the boarding process was 233 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: about normal. 234 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, crazy, yeah, except for that they now have 235 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: all the electronic It's so funny as now we have 236 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: more technology, it slows the line down even more because 237 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: people don't know how to have their boarding pass read 238 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: by the technology that then opens the door to allow 239 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: you into. But I do like that it does keep 240 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: people in the right line. 241 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: Most people just figured out how to do the regular pate, 242 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: how to do with themselves with the paper ticket. Right, 243 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: this is a whole news So we were laughing. Anyway, 244 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: that was fun and fine. But on the it took 245 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: forever to board. I don't know if that what that 246 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: has to do with anything, but this was a boarding 247 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: process like quite frankly that we're used to them being slow. 248 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: Yes, this one's different. 249 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: It felt like, for whatever reason, every single person decided 250 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: to put their second smaller personal item up in the 251 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 3: overhead so that there was no overhead for the people 252 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: who actually had rolling bags they needed to go up there. 253 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: And so I know, but for whatever reason, it was 254 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: the theme. 255 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: And how many times did the flight attendants get on 256 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: and say the same thing over and over and over again. 257 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: So yes, for whatever reason, but it could have been worse. 258 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: We were not delayed, and I would say that it's 259 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 3: probably because we had a five to twenty am flight. 260 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: We probably had the best shot. 261 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: At not having our flight delayed by getting literally the 262 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: first flight out of the morning. 263 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: Okay, And the one comment we were still roback and 264 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: I are going back and forth. We don't know exactly 265 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: what she meant. But once everybody did get on board, 266 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: kind of the gate agent, you know, there's always one 267 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: person who was at the gay who's going back and 268 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: forth in and out of the plane making sure everybody's on, 269 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: it's that lady, and she came on and pretty intense, 270 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: trying to get things done. But as she was walking out, 271 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: she made a comment Robes that I don't know what 272 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: it means, but it didn't sound good. We don't know 273 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: what she was talking about, but they were stressed about 274 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: the flight, and this was a tough one and getting 275 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: everybody on board has been difficult, and none of that 276 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: and all this, and as she was walking away, she 277 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: made a comment, Robes, I still don't know what it means. 278 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: She said, we ain't gonna beat this one. 279 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: So you and I looked at each other and I said, 280 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: did she just say what I think I heard? 281 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: And you said yes, but what does that mean? And 282 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: she looked concerned, And that just didn't feel good. I 283 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: didn't feel good at all to hear that. 284 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: We know she was talking about the flight. We just 285 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: court admit, because we saw everything she was doing leading 286 00:13:59,120 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: up to that. 287 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: Statement, we ain't gonna beat this one. 288 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. 289 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 290 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: I was like, was she talking about the shutdown? Was 291 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: she talking about the man? Was she talking the government? 292 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: Was she talking about I don't know. Hopefully it wasn't 293 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 3: about the plane safety. 294 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: Well, everybody's going through it today. That was our experience. 295 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: All we went through it. We had a pretty good day, 296 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: probably compared to a whole bunch of folks, because no 297 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: matter what happened in the airport, the plane went up 298 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: on time and it came down on time and safely. 299 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: And ain't that the only thing to worry about. But 300 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: folks who are going through this, they do have some 301 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: recommendations for what you should be doing. What you can 302 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: do if you have a flight to maybe increase your 303 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: chances of getting to where you want to go or 304 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: possibly getting your money back. We'll explain that, and we'll 305 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: tell you why before we took off today, well we 306 00:14:49,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: just didn't feel safe. We'll explain here. All right, folks, 307 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: we'll continue now here on this Friday day. One of 308 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: the cancelations. I guess flight cancelations start today across the country. 309 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: Transportation secretary said that needs to be done because of 310 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: the air traffic controller shortages making the skies unsafe, so 311 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: they have to cut back on air traffic. I saw 312 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: robes and this needs to be mentioned. Talking about people 313 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: calling out sick the head of the transportation, they're their 314 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: union air traffic controller union pushed back, and I think 315 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: in a really, really great way that needs to constantly 316 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: be said. It's as if these folks are just calling 317 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: in sick to say, Aha, give you a middle finger. 318 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: You're not paying me, I'm not going to work. He said. No, 319 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: these folks call in sick and say, I don't have childcare. 320 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: So do you want me to bring my kid to 321 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: the tower with me or I have to stay home? 322 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: So they got people calling say I can't put gas 323 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: in my car. What would you like me to do? 324 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 325 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: We need to. 326 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: Remember that you have to be able to pay the 327 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: daycare center, you have to be able to pay the babysitter, 328 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: and if you aren't getting paid for your work, how 329 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: can you possibly pay the person take care of your child. 330 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: There are also reports of so many federal workers, among 331 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: them air traffic controllers, that are actually taking on uber 332 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: jobs to try and pay the bills while they're waiting 333 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: for their actual paychecks to come. And that makes sense 334 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: as well. If you're that desperate, you've got to put 335 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: food on the table. You got to figure something out. 336 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: You have to find a way to work for a paycheck. 337 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: And I get that everyone gets that. 338 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's good too that he was. He's driving that 339 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: point home talk about they're calling out sick as if 340 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: they're just saying, oh, well, what the hell, and that's 341 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: just not the case. Needs to be remembered. They're telling 342 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: us robes some options, right if you're trying to travel. 343 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: If you are traveling right now, you pointed this one 344 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: out that somebody said you might need to book two 345 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: different tickets on two different airlines. 346 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: Yes, the head, the CEO of Frontier Airlines, I believe, said, Look, 347 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: if you're traveling and you've got flexibility, you know you 348 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: might just you're gonna have to just suck it up, 349 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: pack your patients. But he mentioned if you have a 350 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: wedding you have to be at, if you have an 351 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: important business meeting, if you have a funeral, something where 352 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: a date cannot be moved. He said, I would recommend 353 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: buying a refundable backup tech ticket on another airline so 354 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: you have another option, and then you'll at least have 355 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: the points or the money to book then for another flight, 356 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: so you won't have just lost the money. You'll be 357 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: able to use it again for a future flight. But 358 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: that's how bad things are. 359 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: That's a pretty good tip. That's actually really good to 360 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: consider any other thing where this is if you can 361 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: avoid it, if you don't have to travel right now, 362 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: they're telling folk just reconsider, and frankly, sweetness, if we 363 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: were just taking a weekend drip just for giggles, I 364 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: would have said, let's not yeah, because there are a 365 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: lot of folks think about this. 366 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: We flew out today, we're supposed to come back and 367 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: I guess Monday. But that's when I think they do. 368 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: They jump up to ten percent flight cancelation. 369 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: Yes, starting money back today, four today, five tomorrow, six 370 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: on Sunday. 371 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: And the ten ten ten on Monday. 372 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 3: And so a lot of folks who are leaving today 373 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: to go wherever have planned returns. Imagine a week from now, 374 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: or you know, several days from now, and they're saying, 375 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: I have to be back for a doctor's appointment, I 376 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: have to be back for an important job, or I 377 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: have to be back for my child's this. So now 378 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: you fly out today and it is uncertain how reliable 379 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 3: your ability is to get back at a specific time. Now, 380 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: it's always a little bit uncertain, of course when you're traveling, 381 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: but this is a whole other level of concern. 382 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: They tell us, what is it? We have to keep 383 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: in mind as well that ropes. Even if they tell 384 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: us tomorrow the shutdown is old, doesn't mean all the 385 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: flights magically are going to start going again. They're going 386 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: to have to get all those air traffic controllers up 387 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: and going up to speed paid all the US. This 388 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: is going to take where what how far are weeks? Yes, 389 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: probably get back to normal. 390 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: So this, this situation is not going to be fixed 391 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 3: the moment the government or Congress finally decides to figure 392 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 3: out a way to fund the government for whatever amount 393 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: of time. But I also appreciate what United Airlines is 394 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: doing throughout all of this. They have also said to everyone, 395 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: if you have travel booked through November thirteenth, so when 396 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 3: is that? That's next Thursday, right, you can cancel or 397 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 3: change for free. So they're offering folks the option to 398 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: just cancel their flights. They will you will be refunded 399 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: without any fees if you have something already planned through 400 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: November thirteenth. I thought that was a really cool way 401 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: to handle it, because, look, some folks are traveling, you know, 402 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 3: imagine there's everything from honeymoons to you know, people flying 403 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: to weddings and all sorts of planned events that now 404 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: no one could have foreseen this a few months ago. 405 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving, we got a kid coming home here in a 406 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. 407 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: I've got analyses on a flight two weeks from now, 408 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: and she's nervous about whether or not she's going to 409 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: make it home for Thanksgiving. 410 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of folks, yes, travel, This is huge, 411 00:19:59,520 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: huge t. 412 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: So I guess so we should update that. The Senate, 413 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be sticking around and working through the 414 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: weekend to see if they can figure something out. But 415 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: at this point we are still in day what is 416 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: this thirty eight now to all of the shut. 417 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: Down thirty eight, thirty nine, I've lost count. 418 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: We're sorry to lose track, but here we are. And 419 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: I didn't say this to you on the flight Ropes. 420 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: I at one point during that flight got so scared 421 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: you did. I didn't say anything, but I damn had 422 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: tears in my eyes, had just freaked out because what 423 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: We've been looking at that image out of Louisville all week. 424 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: We've been listening to Sean Duffy talk about how dire 425 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: and dangerous. Things are so dangerous we can't handle it. 426 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: So we're canceling flights. That's scary, and that's serious. And 427 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: to think now I'm going through TSA with people who 428 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: haven't been paid in a month plus, who have bigger 429 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: frustrations than whether or not I have something in my bag. 430 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: Probably I'm not putting down TSA, but they have realities. 431 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: All of that came together for a moment in that flight, 432 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: and I freaked. 433 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: I mean, when you asked me to open the window, 434 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if that was it. 435 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think so. I think you were sleeping. 436 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: It was happening with Sabine, and I messaged Sabine. I 437 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: sent her something before we left, like wow, what if 438 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: that was the last message? 439 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: Always I always send the girls a note before we 440 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 3: take off. 441 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: That might be morbid, but I always do. 442 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 1: But I freaked out. And I know people have to 443 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: be uncomfortable when they fly, and it's all because the 444 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: folks we send to Congress won't do the most. I 445 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: think this is the most basic of their jobs, is it. 446 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 3: It would be to fund the government to make sure 447 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: people who are in charge of all of the unbelievably 448 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: important service industries in this country are compensated for their work, what. 449 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: To get re elected and leverage. 450 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: And yes, now it's too far. Now it's going too far. 451 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: Not just because I got scared, That's not what I'm saying, 452 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: but it is. 453 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 2: It's too far. 454 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: It's up. Sorry, So folks, good luck to you out there. 455 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: We will keep you posted about our travels, how things 456 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: go moving forward, But just for now, we want to 457 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: share our our experience this morning at Newark International Airports 458 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: robes but now I'm t J. Holmes behalf of my 459 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: dear traveling partner Amy Robot. We will see y'all soo