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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning. What is going on everybody? We are

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Speaker 2: set for a full slate of luscious college football action

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Speaker 2: that will probably not include Jim Harbaugh, Michigan head football coach.

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Speaker 2: We don't know, emergency injunctions, last second, Hail Mary's who knows?

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Speaker 2: But a couple of Penn State grads on the show

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Speaker 2: facing off against Michigan today. How you guys doing and

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Speaker 2: what do you think about all this craziness, sign stealing repercussions.

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Speaker 2: Harbas suspended for the final three regular season games pending

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Speaker 2: last minute, Hail Mary injunctions? What do you think as

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Speaker 2: we stand right here?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think this doesn't change very much in terms

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Speaker 3: of the way this team prepared. Obviously, this was news

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Speaker 3: that broke while Jim Harbaugh, the Michigan Wolverine football team

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Speaker 3: was on the plane, and they knew it could be

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Speaker 3: coming any minute. So I don't think anybody there is

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Speaker 3: surprised by the news. Also, I don't think it had

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Speaker 3: a major impact on their week of preparation except from

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Speaker 3: one standpoint, and that standpoint may be the most important

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Speaker 3: standpoint in all of sports, is that emotionally, stories like

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Speaker 3: these either tear a team apart in terms of their preparedness,

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Speaker 3: or they galvanize a team. Well, in this situation where

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh can prepare like he has any other week

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Speaker 3: of the football season and there were no sanctions sent

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Speaker 3: down on the Michigan football team, the emotions have galvanized

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Speaker 3: this team. You see it on social media with many

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Speaker 3: of their star players, with all of their players it

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Speaker 3: seems responding to this with a very okay, now we're

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Speaker 3: going to go and go back to work. And then

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Speaker 3: you have all of them show up for their flight

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Speaker 3: today with T shirts that or yesterday that say T

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Speaker 3: shirts with Michigan versus everybody, So clearly inside of that building,

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Speaker 3: while the rest of the world is speculating what's going

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Speaker 3: to happen with Harbaugh, and the rest of the world

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Speaker 3: has an opinion on sign stealing and you know, whatever

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Speaker 3: it was being alleged against Michigan, those football players just

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Speaker 3: want to go out and show everybody that they truly

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Speaker 3: are the biggest and baddest dogs on the yard. And

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Speaker 3: they've got a lot to prove today against Penn State.

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Speaker 3: This this could this could be the tipping factor for

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Speaker 3: them against the Nitney Allions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this, This changes nothing for the game in terms

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Speaker 1: of tactics, like I think, And I even heard on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday that this was going to happen. I was in

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Speaker 1: people who are kind of plugged in, and we heard

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday that a couple of the Michigan people were

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Speaker 1: kind of clambering over this and it might happen Thursday.

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Speaker 1: And of course it happens Friday, the day before the game,

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Speaker 1: which just I think, timing wise, was just silly. But

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Speaker 1: it is rare in college football where the conference of

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Speaker 1: the two team playing provides the bulletin board material for

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Speaker 1: one of the teams. It's it's a very weird situation.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know how I can remove my bias

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Speaker 1: from it, because obviously I want ben State to win

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Speaker 1: today and nothing the Big Ten did yesterday help that.

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Speaker 1: They only hindered that. But I'm still I'm still kind

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Speaker 1: of in my feelings about it, frankly, because it's a weird.

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Speaker 1: It's a very strange situation. I hope Penn State finds

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Speaker 1: a way to kind of also get some motivation from this.

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Speaker 1: I think if you're James Franklin, what you're saying is,

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Speaker 1: now Michigan wants to make a game not about a game.

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Speaker 1: Let's show them why the game still matters, right everyone

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Speaker 1: in this game, nobody's actually talking about the game anymore.

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Speaker 1: And it's a pretty important game. It's actually the season

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Speaker 1: for both of these teams, really, and I hope that

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Speaker 1: more focus gets put on the game when the game's

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Speaker 1: actually being played. And whichever team handles those emotions the

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Speaker 1: pretty even matchup. I think Michigan has a little bit

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Speaker 1: and I think there's a little bit of an edge

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Speaker 1: now baked into Michigan because of this galvanization that the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten has provided, basically giving them the bulletin board

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Speaker 1: material on a silver platter. We'll see which team handles

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Speaker 1: it better today.

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Speaker 2: The T shirts are so lame. I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I know you want to play the It's Michigan the

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Speaker 2: kids to everybody versus the world. I get that you

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Speaker 2: want to do that, but it is so freaking lame.

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Speaker 2: This would be like if I go out in the

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Speaker 2: It's not the world against you. The T shirt should

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Speaker 2: be Michigan versus MISSI, because you guys screwed yourself and

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Speaker 1: This it's everybody you kidstuff.

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Speaker 2: It's over. No, you guys were idiots and had a

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Speaker 2: guy and a Bobby Valentine, you know, like fake nose

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Speaker 2: you want to make it out like everybody's out to

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Speaker 2: get you, Like the Big Ten is out to get you.

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Speaker 2: Your own conference is out to get you. You guys

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Speaker 2: are morons, That's what it boils down to. And your

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Speaker 2: T shirts are stupid. That's one of the things that

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Speaker 2: I think about this whole thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean from you know whatever it is, thirty or

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Speaker 3: you know, eighteen to twenty two year olds wearing goofy

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Speaker 3: T shirts. It may seem wame, but when you're eighteen

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Speaker 3: and you worked for a university, I mean, because that's

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Speaker 3: what it is. You're working for a university, but you

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Speaker 3: defensive back. You truly you have you have a dad,

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Speaker 3: right or a father figure who's guiding you through this process.

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Speaker 3: And then the overarching patriarch of the whole quote unquote

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Speaker 3: atmosphere inside the football building is the head coach. You know.

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Speaker 3: So in the case of these football players, somebody's attacking

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Speaker 3: and honestly, right or wrong, you defend them because that's

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Speaker 3: what's built inside of those those those locker rooms. That's

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Speaker 3: what's built on the practice field is trust and familial relationships.

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Speaker 3: So I get it. You could think it's lame, and

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Speaker 3: you may be right to you. To many people, it

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Speaker 3: promise you it's not lame. I promise you it's a

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Speaker 3: it in terms of a family. Somebody attacks your mom,

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Speaker 3: your family. Well, guess what a football team is. It's

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Speaker 3: a pseudo family. So yeah, again. I think the problem

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Speaker 3: for Penn State this week, getting back to the football

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Speaker 3: the game itself, is those emotions are real. Whether they're

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Speaker 3: in Jim Harbaugh, those emotions are real and they're going

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Speaker 3: to be, you know, exposed today when this game kicks

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Speaker 1: This is this is first of all, the Big Ten

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Speaker 1: did not handle this well, I don't think, and maybe

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Speaker 1: when we look back we'll we'll know more about why

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Speaker 1: A it took so long to get to this point

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Speaker 1: till the end of the season, because it's not going

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Speaker 1: to harm Michigan. Like the Big Ten is trying to

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Speaker 1: punish Michigan, this is not punishing Michigan. This is just

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Speaker 1: giving them more reason to be excited this year. Now,

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Speaker 1: next year sanctions the coach leaves, things change. There can

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Speaker 1: be more punishments that are I think going to hurt

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Speaker 1: Michigan more than just taking a figurehead coach and removing

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Speaker 1: him from the game field three games. He gets to

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Speaker 1: everyone runs the game as usual. They've been practicing for

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Speaker 1: that all week, so it doesn't change anything about the

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Speaker 1: game mechanics. The only thing this punishment did was give

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Speaker 1: Michigan the emotion, the fuel they needed to maybe get

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Speaker 1: over the hump because they've been close. Right last year

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Speaker 1: went to the College Wable playoff beat Ohisle State fell

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Speaker 1: a game short, two game short. Really, I just there's

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Speaker 1: something about the way that this went down that really

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Speaker 1: rubs me as a Penn State fan. The wrong way

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Speaker 1: to do it the night before the game does not

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Speaker 1: hurt Michigan in any way. It only makes them stronger

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Speaker 1: the fuel. This was not a punishment doled out by

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten yesterday. This was an opportunity. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe the t shirts are laying and the props are lame,

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Speaker 1: but the kids these days. You saw them tweet out

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Speaker 1: just yeah, sure, it's a punchline, it's a meme. I

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Speaker 1: get it. But inside that locker room, to Rich's point,

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Speaker 1: this is everything and emotions in college football with these

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Speaker 1: this rocket fuel for their last three weeks, and it

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Speaker 2: How this entire thing went down. Well, listen, I hear

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Speaker 2: what you're saying. I think it can be both. I

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Speaker 2: think it can both be rocket fuel and a punishment

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Speaker 2: at the same time, because not having Jim Harbaugh on

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Speaker 2: the sideline, it's not as if he's just you know, what,

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Speaker 2: do we call Jason Garrett the clapper with the head

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Speaker 2: coach of the Cowboys, where he's just Clay All right, guys,

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Speaker 2: all right, guys, let's go, Let's get it, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is more than the clapper because look at

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Speaker 2: their schedule. You don't miss Jim Harbaugh against East Carolina

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Speaker 2: at Penn State and against Ohio State. But to your point, Jared,

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Speaker 2: it does give them a boost as well. So it's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a tug of war, kind of

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Speaker 2: like a push pull seesaw kind of thing. With Jim

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh not being there, I think it can give them

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Speaker 2: a lot of motivation. I think it can also be

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Speaker 2: a slap on the wrist. Punishment as of right now.

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Speaker 2: The other part of this, and we'll get into this

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Speaker 2: as the show goes along, But some of the comments

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Speaker 2: where you're just rushing to judgment and there isn't due process.

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Speaker 2: Can we stop acting like this is the most intricate, complex,

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Speaker 2: shricky case to try to like meander our way through.

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Speaker 2: They stole signs, they went to games they weren't supposed

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Speaker 2: to go to, They were on the sideline when they

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have been paper. That's not the trickiest thing ever

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Speaker 1: And I think that when I read the Big Ten's report,

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Speaker 3: incredible after contact. In fact, he has four hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirty six rushing yards after contact since Week five. He

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Speaker 3: really kind of had a slow start out the gate

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Speaker 3: Farral mess, but he's caught on and he's becoming one

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Speaker 3: of those premieer backs in college football again because he

436
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Speaker 3: had a breakout true freshman year and He's going against

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Speaker 3: a Georgia team that really I think the strength if

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Speaker 3: their defense is their pass coverage. It's not the front

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Speaker 3: seven like it normally is or used to be over

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Speaker 3: the two time national champions run these past two seasons.

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Speaker 3: So I'm very curious to see how Georgia slows down

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Speaker 3: that rushing attack and frankly, how ole miss controls the

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Speaker 3: clock and slows down this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that as a fantastic handicap because

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Speaker 1: that's exactly where this game boils down to. I think

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Speaker 1: to go back to the kiff and thing. I haven't

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Speaker 1: done a whole lot of research on it, but I

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Speaker 1: can say from years of getting ghosted by women on

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Speaker 1: dating apps, no response is a response. No response is

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Speaker 1: a response. So I'll leave it there, and I eh,

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Speaker 1: everyone's woke these days. Right, All right, let's talk ball,

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Speaker 1: because Georgia's obviously had to control this game. They need

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Speaker 1: to stop quinch on Jenkins. The problem is Jackson Dart's

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Speaker 1: showing some improvement in the passing game. So you can't

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Speaker 1: just load the box and put seven eight guys in

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Speaker 1: the box and give Darting opportunity to go one on

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Speaker 1: one down the field. Because he's twelveth in QBR this year,

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Speaker 1: top twenty five in passing efficiency. He has shown an

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Speaker 1: ability to push the ball down the field, only four

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Speaker 1: interceptions the whole season, and Judkins' early injuries. Now, as

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Speaker 1: as Rich alluded to, has come on really strong late.

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Speaker 1: He looks like an absolute rock star. And ole Miss

463
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Speaker 1: has weapons. They have a three headed monster at wide

464
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Speaker 1: receiver Watkins Way Trey Harris had eleven for two thirteen

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Speaker 1: last week. I mean, they have dudes who can stretch

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Speaker 1: the field and they've got Judkins who can go between

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Speaker 1: the tackles. So there are some issues for this Georgia defense.

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Speaker 1: The issue that I see for ole Miss's defense, though,

469
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Speaker 1: I think is more glaring because if you go back

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Speaker 1: and you watch the Texas A and M film, the

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Speaker 1: Aggies are not this prolific offense. They marched it four

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Speaker 1: times seventy five plus yard drives on Ole Miss last week.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at what A and M has done.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about A and M before. Remember their their

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Speaker 1: star quarterback got hurt earlier this year because they were

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Speaker 1: just giving up a ton of sacks and a ton

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Speaker 1: of pressure. The pressure rates allowed for A and M

478
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Speaker 1: this year, sixty percent against bam A, sixty percent against Tennessee,

479
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Speaker 1: even forty percent against the bad South Carolina defense. Last

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Speaker 1: week against ole Miss gave up just a twenty five

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Speaker 1: percent pressure. Right, So you could say, oh, great, Texas

482
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Speaker 1: A and M's old lines improving. You could also say

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Speaker 1: ole Miss is really struggling to get pressure. And if

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Speaker 1: you don't get pressure on Carson Beck and he has

485
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Speaker 1: time to sit back there and just pick apart a

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Speaker 1: secondary that has been shredded this year, go watch that

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Speaker 1: LSU game. I mean, ole Miss has had brutal, brutal

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Speaker 1: experiences in the passing game. So I think Georgia's offense

489
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Speaker 1: is gonna have some success here, But I think ole

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Speaker 1: Miss is gonna have some success too. Go watch the

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Speaker 1: Georgia film from last week. Missouri ran it on him.

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Speaker 1: So this game's got a little cat and mounts to it.

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Speaker 1: And I think whichever quarterback makes the fewest mistakes and

494
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Speaker 1: whichever defense can maybe find a little bit of consistency

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Speaker 1: getting off the field should have success. But I'm not

496
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Speaker 1: interested in laying double digites with Georgia of this.

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny is if you just go and

498
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Speaker 2: look at Carson Beck's numbers, I think most people would

499
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Speaker 2: be like wow, yeah, like on a game to game basis,

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Speaker 2: But because they've won back to back national championships, and

501
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Speaker 2: because that's and Bennett was the named guy right in

502
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Speaker 2: the story from going from a nobody to a two

503
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Speaker 2: time national champion, I think a lot of times were

504
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Speaker 2: overlooking Carson Beck. And I'm not building him up to

505
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Speaker 2: be the best quarterback in college football. I'm just saying

506
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Speaker 2: his numbers would probably surprise a lot of people because

507
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Speaker 2: he's been efficient and he's put up good numbers. Yeah,

508
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: like week to week, like over and over again without

509
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Speaker 2: brock Bauers, like that matters, and in a matchup against

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Speaker 2: Old Miss, who's not known to be the college equivalent

511
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Speaker 2: of the eighty five Bears, like, don't be surprised if

512
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Speaker 2: he puts another stat line up there where you're like, wow,

513
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Speaker 2: a couple of quarterbacks expected to return today. How about

514
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Speaker 2: quinn Ewers from Texas. Texas survived just a game that

515
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Speaker 2: was drunk last week against Kansas State, So quinn Ewers,

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Speaker 2: he's expected to start against TCU today. Jaden Daniels, the

517
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Speaker 2: LSU quarterback who missed the end of that Alabama game.

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Speaker 2: He was sensational and then had the hit to the

519
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Speaker 2: head and missed the end of the game. Scary situation.

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Speaker 2: His mom in the blue tent with him, right, But

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Speaker 2: he's probable against Florida today, so good news most likely

522
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Speaker 2: seeing Jaden Daniels and Quinn Ewers in action today, that's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, Malik Murphy in terms of the Longhorns,

524
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Speaker 3: along with strong performances by their defense, were able to

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Speaker 3: lead the Texans to or should say Texas to victories

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Speaker 3: in both the games he was absent for, but look

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Speaker 3: Ewers was missed Murphy, he would make the occasional jaw

528
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Speaker 3: dropping downfield throw and it was an impressive band aid

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Speaker 3: to put on a major problem. But I think getting

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Speaker 3: yours back into the Sarkesian system is going to benefit

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Speaker 3: long Horns. Great, we hear, because there was a significant

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Speaker 3: drop off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Texas has everything to play for in front of them.

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Speaker 1: LSU season is over, you know, unfortunately, and I think

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Speaker 1: with Texas, man, I really wanted that win last week

536
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Speaker 1: IY Kansas State on the money line. We did get

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Speaker 1: the cover, but I thought that was a one of

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Speaker 1: those tricky spots where Kansas State has given them problems

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Speaker 1: over the years, and they're just a really tough nose

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Speaker 1: football team, and Murphy definitely doesn't have the ceiling that

541
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Speaker 1: youwers does this Texas, I mean, Texas, this is it.

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Speaker 1: You know, they've got two big games left. I think

543
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: two or three big games left this season and then

544
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Speaker 1: you know, presumably the Big Twelve championship game. We'll get

545
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Speaker 1: to this during the parlay platter, but I think there's

546
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Speaker 1: if you want to talk about explosions in the standings,

547
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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve has the biggest potential for shake up

548
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Speaker 1: over the next few weeks based on these games. I

549
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Speaker 1: think the Big Twelve in the Pac twelve, just based

550
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Speaker 1: off of who the top teams are playing. It's just

551
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Speaker 1: the teams that are currently in the championship game I

552
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: don't think will be there and win three weeks when

553
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Speaker 1: we get there, ones that are currently kind of slotted there.

554
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Speaker 1: So I think the Texas, you know, finish with yours.

555
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Speaker 1: They need him back because if they want to make

556
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Speaker 1: a colturable playoff for on, if they want uh to

557
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Speaker 1: figure out a way to leap frog their way back

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Speaker 1: into this mix, They're gonna need him to be at

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Speaker 1: peak level.

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Speaker 2: Man, those games that you pick because Kansas State was

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Speaker 2: getting rocked at the beginning of that game, and you're

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Speaker 2: watching and you're like, I'm dead yep right, and then

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Speaker 2: you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, what have yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, okay, never mind the roller coaster.

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Speaker 1: At least we've got a cover. I'll take a cover.

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Speaker 2: Hey, being down the way they were, absolutely take a cover. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right. We've got rich hon Berger Penn State, All American.

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Speaker 8: Check this out, ar late letter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jared Smith, you've been in the lab. There is

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Speaker 2: bar grafts, and it's enough of the intro. What do

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Speaker 2: you have for us?

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Speaker 1: I hope if we have a winner today, friends, because

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Speaker 1: again we still are searching for our first of the season.

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Speaker 1: And if we get to the end of the rainbow

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Speaker 1: and we haven't hit one yet, I'll probably tone back

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Speaker 1: to the risk level a little bit. But we're not

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Speaker 1: there yet. We're still risking it for the biscuit. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with Wake Forest today hosting NC State Big Letdowns.

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Speaker 1: Bob with the Wolf back back to back wins over

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Speaker 1: Clemson in Miami. What do you do in fading NC State?

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00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: They just beat Clemson in Miami. Well, quarterback issues this week.

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Speaker 3: MJ.

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Speaker 1: Morris decided he wants the red shirt, so he's not

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Speaker 1: playing anymore. Back comes Brennan Armstrong, and that's just not

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Speaker 1: a good situation for this NC State team. He did

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Speaker 1: not look good in his first few weeks as a starter.

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Speaker 1: That's why they benched him and went to MJ. Morris

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Speaker 1: in the first place. But they're thinking long term, so

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Speaker 1: Morris goes to the red shirt and in steps Brennan

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and this Wake team. I think the defense should

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Speaker 1: excel this NC State offense again, as I said with

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Speaker 1: our I'm strong, a little shuffle this week. I think

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Speaker 1: the defense for Wake rules today. And how about this.

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Speaker 1: The Wolfback haven't won in Winston Salem just one time

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Speaker 1: in the last two decades. Been a house of horrors

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Speaker 1: for them. So Wake gets to win today. We'll take

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Speaker 1: them on the money line. They're a slight underdog. Texas

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Speaker 1: Tech's about a four point underdog at Kansas. We will

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Speaker 1: take them on the money line. And this line just

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Speaker 1: kind of stinks. Kansas is red hot. They just beat Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: There's beat Iowa State on the road and they're barely

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Speaker 1: favored by a field goal plus against Texas Tech. Hmm,

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Speaker 1: seems intriguing. Seems like a letdown spot for Kansas, and

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Speaker 1: I think this Texas Deck defense a little bit undervalued,

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Speaker 1: and they're eleven and one all time in Lawrence. So

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Speaker 1: we'll take Texas Deck on the money line. Finally, UCF

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Speaker 1: hosting Oklahoma State today. I don't love the fact that

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Speaker 1: the old guard Big twelve teams are seventeen and three

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Speaker 1: against the newbies this year, but I think this is

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Speaker 1: an intriguing spot because again, look at the line. Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: State's been red hot, They've won five in a row.

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Speaker 1: Holly Gordon's running for all over the place. They're favored

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Speaker 1: by less than a field goal against UCF, another very

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Speaker 1: intriguing line. I think this UCF team starting to figure

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Speaker 1: out their ground game a little bit. They're at home,

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Speaker 1: hopefully that helps them, and they're a slight underdog today

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Speaker 1: against Oklahoma State. So wake Forest Texas Tech. UCF on

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Speaker 1: the money line ten and a half to one over

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Speaker 1: att MGM not mad not as usual twenty thirty to one,

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Speaker 1: but still pretty good pay out there. Ten to one

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Speaker 1: for this money line Corland, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like this, s Geven deakins, this this money line bet,

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Speaker 3: because they're good for a couple. They're like the they're

645
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Speaker 3: like the pass happy Iowa of their conference. You know,

646
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Speaker 3: like they'll just sneak up on teams that they're dogged

647
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Speaker 3: in games they're dog by. It could be a lot

648
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Speaker 3: more than two and a half, which is the current

649
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: spread here against NC State, but they'll just bite you

650
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, and you're like, well, how did

651
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Speaker 3: they how did they pull that off? And they also,

652
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Speaker 3: you know, lost forty one sixteen to Florida State two

653
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Speaker 3: weeks ago. You know, I mean like that's the type

654
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Speaker 3: of team they are and they have been historically.

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Speaker 2: Man Ali Gordon, the Oklahoma State running.

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Speaker 1: Back, Yeah, he could wreck this for me. He could

657
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Speaker 1: wreck this for me.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: He scares the He scares the pachiefs out of me

661
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: in this game. I mean, you see straight out to

662
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Speaker 1: run this year.

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Speaker 2: You see some of these prop bets and you're like,

664
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Speaker 2: let's see a receiving like fifty today? Yeah, one and

665
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Speaker 2: a half. Wow for Ali Gordon's rushing yard age.

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Speaker 1: You can't bet me.

667
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Speaker 2: Baby. Not expected a whole lot from the UCF rush

668
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: defense there, and I get it. They haven't exactly stopped

669
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: the rush, but they've been able to run the ball

670
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 2: pretty effective.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think their offense is gonna be good today.

672
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: And I think for Texas Tech, I think that's how

673
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: if you want to go into Lawrence and win, you

674
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: got to run the ball too. They've got a hell

675
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Speaker 1: of a back. TODs Brooks has been fantastic this year,

676
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: over one thousand yards. So I think the run game

677
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Speaker 1: cold weather now big twelve country. I know UCF not

678
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: big twelve country, but it certainly is running the ball

679
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: will be keith today.

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Speaker 2: I think for the Red Raiders, UCF is big twelve country.

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Speaker 1: Technically, but when you go down to Central Florida, you're

682
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Speaker 1: not really feeling the big twelve vibes.

683
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: You don't feel big twelve in.

684
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: Orlando Mickey Mouse with the big twelve hat.

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Speaker 3: No, not quite.

686
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 2: No, It's gonna take a little bit. It's a process.

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Speaker 1: It's a process.

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Speaker 2: It's a process, all right. Coming up next, we head

689
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Speaker 2: out West. A defense that has been wrecked and might

690
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: continue to get further wrecked, that is on the way.

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Speaker 2: Oh, what's going on, everybody? We got big action out west.

696
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: We fast forward all the way to late late late

697
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: at night back twelve after dark. It'll be ten thirty

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00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: on the East coast on Big Fox. Huh we got

699
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: USC at number six Oregon And yeah, man, that USC

700
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Speaker 2: defense that is so defensive coordinator Alex Grinch fied in

701
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Speaker 2: steps in interms. We got interim co defensive coordinators right now, right,

702
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: Sean Newa and Brian Odom And hey, your first test,

703
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 2: try to slow down bow Knicks in this high power

704
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: to Oregon offense. H go get him on the road there,

705
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: Nua and odem Man. Oh man, what bow Knicks and

706
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving and company are about to do yardage wise,

707
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 2: points wise against USC's defense is going to be nasty,

708
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: just nasty. And it's crazy how quickly the season has changed.

709
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: Where you're like, I don't think Caleb Williams and USC's

710
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: high powered offense has a prayer of matching points points

711
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Speaker 2: with Oregon today. I think this could get fairly ugly.

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00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: I'm not saying, you know, eight touchdowns is something crazy

713
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 2: like that, but covering sixteen, yeah, I could absolutely see

714
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Speaker 2: that happening tonight with.

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Speaker 3: The Ducks quick rewind just to look at and not

716
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: to you know, beating already downed horse here. But Lincoln

717
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 3: Riley his offenses compared to Alex Grinch's defenses over the years,

718
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Speaker 3: so obviously Grinch came with Riley to USC. During their

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Speaker 3: time at Oklahoma. In twenty nineteen, Riley had the fourth

720
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Speaker 3: ranked offense in the country. Alex Grinch had the seventy

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Speaker 3: eighth ranked defense the COVID. Year twenty twenty, Riley had

722
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Speaker 3: the fifteenth ranked Rinch had thirty first ranked defense, so

723
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Speaker 3: cracking the top fifty, it's all down hill from there.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one, at Oklahoma, Riley had the fifth ranked offense,

725
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: Grinch had the eighty fourth ranked defense. And then these

726
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: past two seasons at USC, you had the first ranked

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Speaker 3: offense last year with Caleb Williams winning the Heisman and

728
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Speaker 3: the one hundred twenty third ranked defense. And currently this year,

729
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: USC has the seventh ranked offense and their defense is

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Speaker 3: ranked one hundred and eighth. So there has been this

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00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 3: wide gap between the productivity offensively for this team and defensively. Really,

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Speaker 3: I should say for this duo stemming back all the

733
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Speaker 3: way to Oklahoma, I appreciate the loyalty that Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 3: showed here. I actually do believe that there's too little

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00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: of that in college football, in football in general, whether

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00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: it's at the NFL level or the college football level.

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Speaker 3: But this is just unexcusable. You have opportunities at Oklahoma

738
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: and use basically to get whoever you want to play

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Speaker 3: defense for you. There's kids lining up every year to

740
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Speaker 3: come there. You need to find those players, get them

741
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Speaker 3: in a system, your system, make it work, and have

742
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Speaker 3: better results than this. You can't use the lack of

743
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Speaker 3: recruits as an argument here because both places you could

744
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 3: recruit like the devil, and for whatever reason, it never

745
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Speaker 3: worked out with Grinch during his tenure with Lincoln Riley.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a few factors here I think that

747
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: are intriguing about this game. First of all, I did

748
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: lay fifteen with Oregon a few days ago. It's out

749
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Speaker 1: the sixteen now, probably maybe touches seventeen, but I don't

750
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Speaker 1: think it'll get any higher than that. USC's playing for

751
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: the eighth consecutive week, so they already were kind of gassed,

752
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: and now you throw this monkey wrench into the mix

753
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: where they're switching coordinators and kind of, you know, on

754
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: the fly, trying to fix a defense that is frankly unfixable.

755
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: I think they'll get a better effort this week. From

756
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Speaker 1: everything I heard from Trojan Land, it's gonna be like simple,

757
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: like the most basic game plan ever Defensively, I think

758
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: the exact quote was something along the lines of if

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00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: we run one play, well, we're gonna run it every play. Well, yeah,

760
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: eventually Oregon's gonna adjust to that. So maybe USC first

761
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: half they have a chance to keep this kind of close,

762
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Speaker 1: but I think over the full sixty Oregon will put

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Speaker 1: some distance between themselves. And then you go to the

764
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Speaker 1: other side of the ball. Right, we know USC, I

765
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: mean a lot of analysts I talked to this week,

766
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: pro betters, this is the biggest mismatch of Power five schools.

767
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: Organs offense against USC's defense like the entire season. So

768
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Speaker 1: we know Orgon's gonna move the ball. The question is

769
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Speaker 1: can USC do enough on the other side to keep

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Speaker 1: it within the number? When I look at Caleb Williams

771
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: and guys, let's be honest, he's kind of playing his

772
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: way out of the number one pick right now, and

773
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Speaker 1: I think that's where some analysts are kind of leaning,

774
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: and we're not there yet. We got plenty of time

775
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: to dissect the draft. But hasn't been a great year

776
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: for him, hasn't handled the emotions, hasn't handled the intangibles

777
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Speaker 1: like you want a professional number one quarterback to handle.

778
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: Very volatile, whereas a Joe Burrow type, a stone cold

779
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck type assassin just no pulse. I think that's

780
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: issue with Caleb Williams, and the data speaks to that

781
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: because under pressure this season, the numbers are off the

782
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: charts terrible compared to when he's kept clean. Twenty touchdowns,

783
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: no picks, when the pocket is nice and neat and tidy.

784
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: When he's facing pressure, eight touchdowns, four interceptions, fifteen turnover

785
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: worthy plays. So there's your recipe. Get pressure on Caleb Williams,

786
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: figure out a way to hem him in, and I

787
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: think USC will kind of bumble theirselves on offense, like

788
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: that game last week against Washington. They were in that

789
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: game and then Caleb Williams made the fumble at the

790
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: end of the half and then Washington took the lead

791
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: and then that was it. You can't get your serve

792
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: broken because us he can't get stops, and I think

793
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: eventually Caleb Williams will get his serve broken and that's

794
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: where Oregon will take control of the game.

795
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Speaker 2: Well, I think with I hear you on Caleb Williams

796
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: to an extent, but I think that the way we

797
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: look at Caleb Williams, it's two things that work against him. One,

798
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: he won the high and now we're looking at him

799
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: very very closely. Right, we're looking at the mole on

800
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: Cindy Crawford's face, like the rest of what's going on there.

801
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: And I also think the roster, especially that defense really

802
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: hurts his individual rep you know what I mean, Like

803
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: if you look at it, at the end of the day,

804
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: he's throwing twenty eight touchdowns and four picks. That defense

805
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: is what's doing them in. They allowed Dylan Johnson to

806
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: rush for two fifty six by himself last week in

807
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: four touchdowns. The Washington running back Washington calls plays like

808
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: they're playing tech Mobile, you know what I mean, Like

809
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: they're playing mad and they're just throwing it, throwing it,

810
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: and last week they're like, we might as well just

811
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: play smash mouth. They can't even come close to stopping

812
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: this like us. He scored forty two points. They weren't

813
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: even close to winning that game last week. So I

814
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: think that some of Caleb Williams's individual rep has been

815
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Speaker 2: hurt by the defense, and sometimes that offensive line against

816
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, they just couldn't keep them upright. That was

817
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: terrible offensive line play in that game. So I think

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00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: sometimes we have a tendency to look closer at Caleb

819
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 2: Williams than we probably should. With all that being said,

820
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: he's facing a defense that is world's better than his

821
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 2: own defense tonight in Oregon. They play real defense over there,

822
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 2: and USC doesn't come close to doing anything resembling real

823
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: defense at all.

824
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Speaker 3: No, I think Caleb Williams is still one of the

825
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: most outstanding prospects we've had in a long time. But

826
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Speaker 3: to your point, Brian, there are some blemishes here that

827
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 3: may be overblown. But I'll give you one that I

828
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: think is actually one week that has real teeth that

829
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Speaker 3: we can actually use as a metric to see what's

830
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: going to happen at the next level. No argument here,

831
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: much worse offensive line protecting him this season compared to

832
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: last season. But something has reared its head. Is under pressure,

833
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: his passer rating it falls off a cliff compared to

834
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: when he has a clean pocket. So when he's under pressure,

835
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 3: he is a far lesser combatant than when he has

836
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 3: time to throw. And you're going against an Oregon Ducks defense, who,

837
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 3: like you mentioned, I mean, this is a real defense,

838
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: and this is a defense that can apply pressure. So

839
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Speaker 3: I think some of it is narrative. I think you're

840
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: absolutely right some of it. We can spin things and

841
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: we can talk about USC and almost like Caleb Williams

842
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: like he's the whole team, Like he's not just one player,

843
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: he's the twenty one other players on the offense and

844
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: defense and frankly special teams that have blown games for

845
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: the USC Trojans, which isn't true and we know that,

846
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: but it's hard to conceptualize sometimes when you're talking about

847
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: such a special talent. But there are some warts on

848
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: his game and some things that he needs to clean up.

849
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Speaker 3: I think, even if this is a near loss for

850
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: US Trojans, but Caleb Williams plays well, especially against pressure,

851
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: because if you look at the pressure rating on Oregon's defense. Yeah,

852
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: they get to the quarterback. They're outstanding at getting to

853
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: the quarterback. They're like top five in the country at

854
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: getting to the quarterback. If he has a good game,

855
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: this may be the last time we see him. It

856
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: really might be. This could be the Swan song, even

857
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: in a loss.

858
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: I think it's fair for us to scrutinize Caleb. He

859
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: wants to be the number one pick in the NFL draft.

860
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: There's a lot of really good quarterbacks in college football,

861
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: not a lot separates them. And look at this pass draft.

862
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: We picked a part CJ. Stroud, we picked a part

863
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: Will Evis. We didn't pick apart as much Bryce Young

864
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: besides the size. I don't want to go to the

865
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: Richton too much because he's been hurt, but kind of

866
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: talked about that too. Like when you look at these quarterbacks,

867
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: not a lot separated than pre draft. Even though we

868
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: kind of thought Bryce was the best, but now post draft, no,

869
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: he's not. Ja Stroud clearly is the best. I think

870
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: when we look at the next level of quarterbacks facing

871
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: pressure being able to absorb it and still make a

872
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: good plays, I think kind of the defining trade of

873
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. They all have great arms,

874
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: they all can run a little bit like how you

875
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: handle adversity I think is everything for a quarterback, and

876
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: I don't think Caleb Williams has handled the adversity very

877
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: well this year. Back to Oregon because they're going to

878
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: be obviously the hammer in this game and USC is

879
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: going to be the nail. To Rich's point, I saw

880
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the same things with the pass rush

881
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: and the pressure that Rich alluded to. So a lot

882
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: of five star defenders on the field, but actually the

883
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: best player on Oregon's defense this year has been a

884
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: transfer from Fresno State. Evan Williams. Leads the team and

885
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: tackles second in sacks. He's kind of like a box safety.

886
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: We'll see how they implement him this week. But the

887
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: pass rush, Dorles and Birch are studs on the edge.

888
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they have two guys that can get after you,

889
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: and they've got this kind of hybrid safety. So they've

890
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: got three queens on the chessboard that can go in

891
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: any direction, and I don't think USC is going to

892
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: be able to absorb that pressure. And if Kayleb Williams

893
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: makes mistakes and he turns it over just once. You

894
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: cannot get your serve broken. When you're facing an Oregon

895
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: offense that's top ten rushing and passing. They're the most

896
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: balanced offense in the country. I feel confident in saying

897
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: their offense is better than Washington's right now. And I

898
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: think this is an Oregon team that man, that bon

899
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: Nicks Heisman future is looking real good right now, especially

900
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: if they put up another big number today. But I

901
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: would be surprised, very surprised if USC's defense held up

902
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: for more than a half. And I think eventually the

903
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: dam will break and Oregon's gonna cover this one.

904
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: Man, that Heisman could come down to the Pac twelve Championships.

905
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: I think that's right, Yeah, I mean that's.

906
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: Where if it's Oregon in Washington, you're looking at Pennix Junior.

907
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: He's at plus one fifty bon Knicks at two to one.

908
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: It very well could come down to. I think it

909
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: will which team wins in which quarterback does.

910
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 3: What I mean?

911
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: Ask yourself this, like, could a quarterback put up a

912
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: good enough game in a losing performance if it's Oregon

913
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: and Washington to still win the Heisman Trophy? I think

914
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: the answer is no, unfortunately, because that's just the way

915
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 2: Heisman voting goes. So we'll see if that's the matchup.

916
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 2: Washington's got a big one today. We'll get to that

917
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,319
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Speaker 9: But follow the money, real good money.

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Speaker 8: Ah.

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Speaker 2: We are following the money with our good friend Seamus McGee,

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Speaker 2: team lead of sports Trading at bet MGM. I can't

956
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: help but just look at this total here, Seamus in

957
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: the Rutgers Iowa game. Where are we at twenty seven

958
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: and a half and you got betters jumping on the under?

959
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 2: Is that still the case at bet MGM.

960
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's some over money starting to trickle in.

961
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 8: But it's funny when these totals get that low, you

962
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 8: think you can get some bytes on the over, but

963
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 8: it's almost like a service academy game where people just

964
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,240
Speaker 8: like they just it's Iowa football. They're betting the under.

965
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

966
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: I would love to see someone send me a ticket

967
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 1: of them betting the over in that game. I feel

968
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: like it should be, you know, enshrined in the college

969
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame if they do the most intriguing storyline.

970
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: And I'm always curious how the narratives Seame has baked

971
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: themselves into the market moved when the Harbone news dropped

972
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: yesterday and I guess overnight and now into this morning

973
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: at being a noon game, did we see any fluctuation

974
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 1: with Michigan and Penn State. It seemed like we've seen

975
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: both sides this week, kind of betters on both sides.

976
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: But I'm guessing I'm assuming that someone bets something based

977
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: off of the Harball reaction.

978
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you look earlier in the week, this

979
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 8: line a lot. There's a lot of sevens out there

980
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 8: where this game opened up, and you saw this line

981
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 8: get down to minus four and a half, and we

982
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 8: left the game up when the news dropped just to

983
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 8: see what the sharpman is gonna tell us, and we

984
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 8: didn't see really anything. It state at four and a half.

985
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 8: It took a little sharp play on the under today,

986
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 8: but it's really you almost got to wonder if a

987
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 8: lot of sharp betters were kind of assuming this is

988
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 8: gonna happen. I'm not saying Jim Harboff's worth who would

989
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 8: have points to a spread, but you kind of wonder

990
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 8: maybe if there was an assumption that something was gonna happen.

991
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 3: Hey, Seamus, where are the most overs? We just talked

992
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: about the most unders being on that that stinker out

993
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: there with the with the Iowa Rockers game, But but

994
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 3: what about overs? I mean, you got USC Oregon playing

995
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 3: I think the line set at seventy six or seventy seven.

996
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: But where where's the most tickets coming in on overs?

997
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 8: You hit the nail on the head. I don't think

998
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 8: we wrote a single bet on the under in that

999
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 8: USC or open at seventy three and a half up

1000
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 8: to seventy seven and a half. We're gonna need I mean,

1001
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 8: grinch has gone at USC. Maybe maybe that like the

1002
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 8: fire under them, we hit some defense, but i we're

1003
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 8: going to be under pretty bad. Then that's one of

1004
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 8: our bigger me for the week at the under.

1005
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy. Earlier this week you've been bet

1006
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: MGM sends out these emails and it has the most

1007
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: popular unders of the week and it just has Iowa

1008
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: Rutgers number one, Oklahoma State UCF number two, and then

1009
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: number three. It just says majority of beds are on

1010
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: over in all other games. Is that the case where

1011
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 2: we're just rushing to the over and most of these

1012
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: games here, sham is.

1013
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 8: It's so funny because tomorrow you look at and it's

1014
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 8: historic unders in the NFL and I mean college football.

1015
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 8: It's it seems like people just love betting the overs,

1016
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 8: and ye know, it's hard way women in a lot

1017
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 8: of cases except when you're watching most of most Big

1018
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 8: ten West teams. But yeah, it's interesting. Why do you

1019
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 8: say a Big twelve game in there though?

1020
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: Oh, miss Georgia and I guess Alabama too. I guess

1021
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: really focusing on Georgia and Alabama. Are you starting to

1022
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: see now that we're back half of the year and

1023
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: I know the narrative was down, especially on Bama earlier

1024
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: this season after they lost to Texas. Are you starting

1025
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: to see now old reliable everyone's betting Bam and Georgia

1026
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: calendars turning November. These are the two best teams, sez

1027
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: blah blah blah.

1028
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's one way traffic on Bama specifically this week.

1029
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 8: It seems like everyone's kind of bought in now that

1030
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 8: the game against LSU really really helped them out. I mean,

1031
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 8: so winning its A and M a few weeks ago,

1032
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 8: depending what your opinion is of that game, I mean,

1033
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 8: people are all back on the bandwagons for Bama. So

1034
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 8: we're going to need to Kentucky at News it's a

1035
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 8: pretty big neons place for us because we're gonna we're

1036
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 8: probably gonna need Penn State as well.

1037
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say, because you know, everybody

1038
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: loves Bam, everybody loves to run to the window with Bama.

1039
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: But we know that bet MGM cleans up in Michigan.

1040
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: And with all the news that broke this week and

1041
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: the news that broke yesterday while the Wolverines were on

1042
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: the flight, you got to assume that the most bet

1043
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: ticket is Michigan, either on the money line or or

1044
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: on the point spread. I mean, how how bad of

1045
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 3: a beat if Michigan actually wins this game in covers?

1046
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, it'll it'll sting a little bit. But you know

1047
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 8: that's a good thing. With this game being a noon game.

1048
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, plenty of opportunities for for betters to come

1049
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 8: back later in the window. I love that and uh

1050
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 8: so yeah, I mean, and we'll be fine again. We

1051
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 8: got to edit a whole NFL Sunday tomorrow, Like it'll sting,

1052
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 8: but it takes some.

1053
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: Of that bad. Yeah, you know, it's crazy. I don't

1054
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: know if I can ask this the right way, Seamus,

1055
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: but these favorites that are tied to parlays, you know

1056
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: what I mean, just wrecking bets when there is an

1057
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 2: upset like that. Would it be like this, Let's say

1058
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: you've got three favorites, right, and and the favorite in

1059
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: the first game covers, the favorite in the second game covers,

1060
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: the favorite in the third game loses outright, right, So

1061
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: it's not like you guys are just one and two

1062
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: with those lays and everything? Is it almost like you're

1063
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: what even at that point? Would it go as far

1064
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: as to say that.

1065
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 8: With these especially with college football, these huge favorites, we

1066
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 8: just get one domino to fault. It's shocking on a

1067
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 8: plate to see how many parlays it takes out, how

1068
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 8: many teasers it takes out. Yeah, it really we just

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00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 8: need one two to get beat out right for it

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00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 8: to be like a huge parlay destroyer.

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Speaker 1: Man an intriguing one in the mid afternoon slate and

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to this game a little later

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Speaker 1: in the show. But Washington and Utah, it looks like

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: the lines kind of creeping back towards the Utes today.

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00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: Is Washington a public favorite and maybe Utah getting a

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00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: little sharp lover or is the public love and the

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00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: Utes in this spot, Utah is.

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Speaker 8: A usual sharp play fields the year, and but I

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00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 8: was looking at it earlier today, I was starting to

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00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 8: see some Utah money come in. I think We're gonna

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00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 8: have a pretty good looking book if I kickoff for this,

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Speaker 8: So yeah, it should be.

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Speaker 3: A good game, all right, Jeamus, I've left an open

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00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 3: spot on my rapid fire bets. Okay, I've got the

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00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 3: bingo card. I got two locks, I need a thirdide.

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Speaker 3: What's the Shamus special this week?

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00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 8: I got a little too cute last week picking the

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00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 8: biggest game. I don't know, I don't know what I was.

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00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 8: So before I get into it, I just want to

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00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 8: wish my mother is very happy birthday.

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00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 2: Very cool.

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00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, so this is dedicated to her. A lot of

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00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 8: rivalry games this week, but no one's talking about the

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Speaker 8: Battle of the Borough today between Wagner University and l

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00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 8: i U Brooklyn. You're gonna seriously give me Wagner eight

1096
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 8: and a half points in arrival begin.

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00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: Half wager plus eight and a half.

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00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a nine, Seamus.

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Speaker 8: Let's go give me the boys from Staten Island.

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Speaker 1: Staten Island stand.

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Speaker 2: Up Dad is amazing right there. Well, happy birthday to

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Speaker 2: your mom, Yeah, Seamus, and I always appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: I men hope you enjoyed the day in the weekend.

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Speaker 8: Bud appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks guys, thank you there.

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00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: He is Seamous McGee, team lead of sports Trading at

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00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: bet MGM. I would have loved if he like tied

1108
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: his pick somehow to a memory of his mother, you

1109
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like I was growing up, right,

1110
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: my mom was watching the Seahawks of Wagner.

1111
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: So they got a soft place in my heart. I'm

1112
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: taking him plus eight. What a mascot battle in this game?

1113
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: The Wagner Seahawks and the l i U Sharks. Oh Man,

1114
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: Seahawks and Sharks. Nothing says New York City like Seahawks

1115
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: and Sharks.

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00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: Right, that's right.

1117
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: I can't have you can't have sharks.

1118
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 3: They found their their mascot on clip art and they.

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00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: Said Donald.

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Speaker 3: Crazy.

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00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: My goodness, We've got Isaac low and cron who uh,

1122
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: he's well reasoned.

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Speaker 1: He's a shark.

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00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: He's a shark and a sharp actually what he is?

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Speaker 2: He's got the latest? What's going on?

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Speaker 9: I Low fellas, we have our ant if sir.

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01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 10: ESPN has just reported that there will not be a

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Speaker 10: ruling today in Michigan's request for a temporary restraining order

1129
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Speaker 10: to block the Big Tens three game suspension of Jim Harbaugh,

1130
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Speaker 10: and that a hearing for the case has been scheduled

1131
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 10: for next Friday at nine a m. About ninety minutes

1132
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Speaker 10: from now. The third ranked Wolverines at nine to zero,

1133
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 10: will play at tenth ranked Penn State. This news means

1134
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Speaker 10: that offensive coordinator Sharon Moore would serve as acting head

1135
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 10: coach today for Michigan. Reaction continues to pour in about

1136
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 10: this news, and the reaction is varied. JT apparently not

1137
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 10: a fan of Jim Harbaugh, posting quote, this man is

1138
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 10: so pathetic. Just tell him to hit the local Applebee's.

1139
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 10: The game will be on there. Robert meanwhile, apparently a

1140
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 10: Penn State fan. Robert posting I want Harbaugh on the sidelines.

1141
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 10: No excuses from the Walmart Wolverine if Penn State pulls

1142
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 10: out a win. Hill Street Blue meanwhile, is so angry

1143
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 10: they want Michigan to leave the Big Tenth Conference entirely,

1144
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 10: posting the Big Ten will be a glorified MAC with

1145
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 10: poverty programs like Ohio State and Michigan State.

1146
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 9: Being their elite teams.

1147
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 10: Lol, and Ron posts Harbaugh currently driving to Columbus to

1148
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 10: sit in the stands for the Ohio State Michigan State game.

1149
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 10: So anyway, as you can tell, reaction on the temporary

1150
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 10: restraining order at least not be ruled.

1151
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 9: On today is varied and the NBA.

1152
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 10: On Friday night, the Los Angeles Lakers wanted Phoenix one

1153
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 10: twenty two to one to nineteen, greating their three game

1154
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 10: losing street. They also got their first road win of

1155
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 10: the year Lebron James thirty two points, eleven rebound, six assists.

1156
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 10: Also late Friday night, Demonte Sabonis had a triple double

1157
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,919
Speaker 10: seventeen points, twelve rebounds, thirteen assists of the Sacovto Kings

1158
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 10: What to Oh five to ninety eight win over oaklam

1159
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 10: Homa City. So again, the news just breaking. Jim Harbaugh

1160
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 10: will not be on the sidelines today for Michigan. No

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01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 10: ruling today on the request for a temporary restraining order,

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01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 10: a hearing set for Friday.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, Thank you, I LO it is

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Speaker 2: this matchup. You got number eighteen Utah against number five Washington.

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01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: Seamus McGee was just talking about that, some of the

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01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: sharps on the utes plus eight over here. What blows

1173
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: my mind is styles make fights. You hear this all

1174
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: the time in boxing and football. But just look at

1175
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: the total the last two weeks for Washington against USC,

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01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: it's around seventy six and a half. Today against Utah

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01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: it's forty nine and a half. That's like twenty seven

1178
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Speaker 2: point difference right there. And it'll be interesting to watch

1179
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: Washington where Dylan Johnson went nuts last week two hundred

1180
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 2: and fifty six yards rushing in four touchdowns, and some

1181
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 2: of it was just wide open offense. But you might

1182
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 2: see Washington against Utah, who obviously plays way better defense

1183
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: than USC, instead of like Ah, first down, let's take

1184
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: a shot deep. Let's see if we can hit a

1185
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: deep ball. It's like, let's stay on schedule here, let's

1186
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: at least set up third and manageable, you know, if

1187
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: we're not picking up picking it up in the first

1188
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: couple of downs. So be interesting to watch Washington and

1189
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: that offense, which with the exceptional last week, they had

1190
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: been stuck in the mud against lesser opponents, especially Arizona States.

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01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: I want to see how they perform against Utah later today.

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01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the focus here for me is on

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01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 3: Washington's defense, which has been overall pretty solid this year year.

1194
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: But if there's one spot of their game plan that

1195
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: has been a struggle, it's their defense of the run game,

1196
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 3: which there I mean, if you look at all of

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01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 3: the measurable statistics, they're really far close down to the bottom,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of these in incredibly poor in terms

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Speaker 3: of in terms of yards per carry, which on average

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Speaker 3: it's almost four and a half. Against the Utes produced

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01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 3: nearly two hundred yards on the ground. So sometimes your

1202
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: best defense is a keep away, you know, methodical rushing offense.

1203
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Speaker 3: And I think the Utah Utes they could shorten this

1204
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,479
Speaker 3: game against the Huskies. There's no question in my mind

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Speaker 3: that's going to be the game plan. We'll see if

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Speaker 3: they can execute on the road against Washington.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I took nine with Utah earlier this week. I

1208
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: sprinkled the money line as well. I actually did you

1209
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: know we do the videos every week for the Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports radio and the bet MGM social feeds.

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Speaker 3: And this was one of the.

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Speaker 1: Games that I previewed, and I looked in the comments

1213
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Speaker 1: this morning, and there are a lot, I don't know,

1214
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: maybe a lot of Washington fans follow Fox Sports Radio

1215
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: on Instagram, but I didn't get a whole lot of

1216
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: love for this Utah pick. Go if you guys want

1217
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: some leave Isaac, maybe go ahead the next up date.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Look at some of those comments I got on that

1220
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Speaker 1: Utah pick earlier this week on Fox Sports Radio's Instagram.

1221
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Speaker 1: But it's fair listen. I think when you look at Utah,

1222
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: you go watch the game against Oregon. It was a disaster.

1223
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: They couldn't get pressure on Bonicks. Boonick shredded them. I

1224
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: think Washington's offensive line isn't as elite and buttoned up

1225
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: as as Organs was. But the key here is the

1226
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Speaker 1: running game. As we talked about Jaquindin Jackson, who is

1227
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: the star, reaggravated that ankle injury on a fifty four

1228
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: yard run last week. I don't think he's going to

1229
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Speaker 1: play in this game. So that means Jayalen Glover, who's

1230
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Speaker 1: kind of this small, shifty back, will get a big workload,

1231
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: and maybe si on Vaki. Remember we talked about the

1232
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Speaker 1: converted safety they put at running back, who was really

1233
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: running it really well. I think he didn't play on

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Speaker 1: offense at all last week. I think you'll probably see

1235
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Speaker 1: a little bit more of him this week. But USC

1236
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: ran it all over Washington last week, so you would

1237
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: imagine that Utah is gonna have the same success. Here's

1238
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Speaker 1: the difference. Washington also had to account for Kayleb Williams

1239
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: in the passing game. I don't think there's as much

1240
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: of a downfield threat here with Bryson Barnes. He's looked

1241
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: a little bit better, just not consistent enough. And the accuracy,

1242
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: the pass blocking, I think all of those things for

1243
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: Utah's offense, the downfield threat, those are clearly lacking, especially

1244
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: when you compare them to Kayleb Williams. So Washington won't

1245
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: have to account for as much ground this week, and

1246
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: that's why I think they might just focus in on

1247
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: the running game and stack the bogs. But Washington's defense

1248
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,479
Speaker 1: hasn't impressed me. Even if they do stack the box,

1249
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: I still think Utah can have some success running the ball.

1250
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: The key is strength on strength, Utah's defense, strength, Washington's

1251
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: offense strength, Who gets the better end of that strong matchup.

1252
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: I think Washington has a slight edge here, But I

1253
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: love Kyle Whittingham as a coach. I think he is

1254
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: probably the most underrated coach in the country. I think

1255
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: I'll have a very good game plan set here, and

1256
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: I think Washington's do for a loss. Maybe it's next

1257
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: week against Oregon State, but it could be this week

1258
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: against Utah. I think taking the points here is the only.

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Speaker 2: Way to vet it. By the way, what do you

1260
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: think about this total in the Rutgers Iowa game twenty

1261
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: seven and a half?

1262
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Speaker 1: You gotta go on, just yeah, I just love what's

1263
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: the no touchdown throp in that game? I yeah, no

1264
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: touchdown to be scored in that game?

1265
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's even that's that's got to be longer, odds man,

1266
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 2: We're talking like probably touchdown twenty or thirty to one

1267
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 2: or fifty to one, gotta be yeah, something like that

1268
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: NFL game. Yeah, it could be a defensive score, special

1269
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: team ya blocked field goal anything, right, six four safeties.

1270
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Speaker 3: Right, just like that.

1271
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: Penn said, Iowa game? Remember that game? Rich from Oh my.

1272
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Speaker 3: God, Yeah, I was, I was, I was there for

1273
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 3: live and in person. That was That was a rock

1274
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 3: fight if I've ever seen one.

1275
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one's shaping up to be a similar one.

1276
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1277
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 2: What do you think the score is going to be

1278
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: at the end of the first quarter, right when they

1279
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: do one of the greatest traditions when they wave at

1280
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: the children's hospital that overlooks the stadium.

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01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 3: Probably zero zero, yeah, yeah, three nothing, zero zero, maybe two,

1282
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 3: maybe two nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's the lowest common denominator of points we could possibly

1284
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: put out there.

1285
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: We've got rich oren Berger, Penn State, All American. He

1286
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: will blow towards some some pork shoulder over there and

1287
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 2: get it to your exact liking. We've got Jared Smith FSR,

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01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 2: betting analyst who he's got a dog named Jackpot and

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01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 2: he adventures with Jackpot this week.

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Speaker 3: Well he was.

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01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: It was with the boarding facility all week because I

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01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: was in Chicago doing some studio work for a TV

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: network and he was really happy to see me last night.

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01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 2: That's good. I'm glad he wasn't giving you the cold shoulder. No, no, no,

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 2: I wasn't getting the harball from him.

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Speaker 3: He was.

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01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,520
Speaker 1: He was on the field sideline.

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Speaker 3: Very nice.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian though. Coming up next. So many prop bet

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01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 2: opportunities We'll throw a few of them out at you

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Speaker 2: right around the corner. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown

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01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:12,799
Speaker 2: do this prop It up player plays the prop bets

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01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: over here, so many possibilities. We'll start with you, Jared,

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01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 2: What are you hoding in on as we speak?

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01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a lot of interesting games today in

1324
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: the prop market. I think, going back to our discussion

1325
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: on Georgia Ole Miss, I think Carson Beck and this

1326
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: Georgia offense continues to be undervalue. And look at this

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01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: little prop SGP I just cooked up over at bet MGM.

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01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: How about this Carson Beck two hundred and fifty passing

1329
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: yards or more, Lad McConkie fifty or more receiving yards

1330
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: and a Georgia win, straight up win on the money

1331
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 1: line plus one fifty five again plus money for what

1332
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: I would perceive to be a pretty easy threshold for

1333
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: both of those guys to go over again, Beck and

1334
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: go watch the tape of LSU against Old Miss. Jay

1335
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: Daniels just went absolutely deserved on this Ole Miss secondary

1336
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 1: and Lad McConkie now that he's back from the injury

1337
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: and no brock Bowers, he seems to be kind of

1338
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: a catalyst in this Georgia passing game. So I think

1339
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: McConkie and Beck have big games. I'd go over both

1340
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: of their just regular receiving yards and passing yards props.

1341
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: But that's a fun little plus money SGP, very correlated.

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: If those guys go over, George is probably gonna win

1343
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: the game and you're getting plus one fifty five over

1344
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 1: there at at mgym.

1345
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 3: I'm really focused on this Colorado Buffalo's Arizona game. I

1346
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: love the number most places you can find Travis Hunter

1347
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 3: for you know, in the mid seventies in terms of

1348
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: his receiving yardage number, and I'm taking the over. And

1349
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 3: here's why. So he's played in five full games. You

1350
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 3: could discount the Colorado State game where he you know,

1351
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 3: got hit with the dirty hit and then he was

1352
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 3: on the shelf for a little while. But in the

1353
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 3: games he's been one hundred percent healthy. For he's been

1354
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 3: targeted close to ten times, he's averaging close to ninety

1355
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 3: yards receiving, and with that level of workload against a

1356
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 3: Wildcats defense pass defense that's ranked extremely low by Pro

1357
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 3: Football Focus, I like Travas Hunter to go over the

1358
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 3: number here.

1359
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: Okay, like that you got your eye on the PAC

1360
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 2: twelve right there, Like, yeah, I'm gonna look at this

1361
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 2: is a random one. I'm gonna look at Miami wide

1362
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: receiver Colby Young is that forty two and a half

1363
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 2: and is a random one. It's super random. But you

1364
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: look at no one's gonna look at Tyler van Dijk

1365
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: and say, oh, he's gonna just shred Florida State, or

1366
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna shred fill in the blank. But they're probably

1367
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: gonna be trailing here and he's gonna have to throw it.

1368
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: And Colby Young at forty two and a half, I

1369
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 2: think he's gonna go over against Florida State. This is

1370
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: a big game, obviously a huge rivalry game, and to

1371
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: keep it close, to be making it a fourth quarter

1372
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 2: game and trying to pull off a big upset, you're

1373
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: gonna have to toss the rock. And so I think

1374
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: Colby Young going over forty two and a half. That's

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01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: what I have my eye on today. No, I don't

1376
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: hone in on canes and over props offensively, but today

1377
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:16,839
Speaker 2: I'll make an exception.

1378
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times with the props, the

1379
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 1: guys that don't get the publicity are usually the best

1380
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: values on the board, and I always think that's an

1381
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 1: interesting way to go speaking of value and speaking of

1382
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,560
Speaker 1: the most popular guys. So I have read there's a

1383
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: couple of sources out there that Luther Burden is going

1384
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: to play today for Missouri. We have talked about this

1385
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: kid all season long. He is maybe the best receiver

1386
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: in the country, but he's been banged up the last

1387
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 1: few weeks, and last week against Georgia he was basically

1388
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: a decoy. He only had a handful of catch. His

1389
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: fifty three yards his passing yard or his receiving yards

1390
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 1: prop is posted right now at ninety seven and a half.

1391
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: I would bet the under. I think he's not one

1392
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: hundred percent, and I think he is going to be

1393
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: a decoy again today, And if he is, this could

1394
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: be one of those where he only gets a couple

1395
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: of looks and you don't even sniff that hundred yard

1396
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: threshold that he needs to pretty much meet in order

1397
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: to go over that prop. So I think Tennessee's passing

1398
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: defense is pretty good. They've been better against the pass

1399
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: than the run this year. And my guess is he

1400
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: is going to be a decoy and it'll be more

1401
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: the Oese for Missouri kind of carrying the load in

1402
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: the passing game today. So Luther Burden looked to that

1403
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: under as he continues to battle through an injury.

1404
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, last one, quinch John Judkins, Ole Miss running back

1405
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 3: against that Georgia defense. If you can find it for

1406
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 3: under seventy rushing yards, take tho over there. I think

1407
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 3: the game plan for All Miss is going to be

1408
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 3: to run it down the Bulldog's throat today. So I

1409
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 3: think Judkins, who's come on strong in the second half

1410
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 3: of this season, is going to have a big game

1411
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 3: on the ground for All Miss.

1412
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: I hate when I love a prop and then I

1413
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: hate how the game might play out, and I don't

1414
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: love the prop up anymore.

1415
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: Gamescript matters with props.

1416
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: It matters a ton like Trey Benson, the Florida State

1417
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: running back. Initially I loved under sixty four and a half,

1418
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 2: but if Florida State's got a lead and they're running

1419
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 2: the ball a little bit more like Yeah, And I

1420
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 2: also love Marvin Harrison Junior. It's a high number, but

1421
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: over ninety six and a half they're against Sparty. I

1422
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 2: don't think Sparty could slow me down right now. You

1423
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: know pray uniforms. But if they're crushing them, they just

1424
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 2: start running the ball.

1425
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 3: You might not get there. You might not.

1426
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, gamescript matters, No doubt about that. Coming up next,

1427
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 2: we dip our beaks back in the waters of Michigan

1428
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 2: and Penn State. Top ten tilt that is on the way.

1429
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1430
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

1431
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1432
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:53,080
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1433
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: Oh what's going on, everybody? We are ramping up less

1434
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 2: than an hour away from kickoff over here and the

1435
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: biggest game of the day Michigan at Penn State at

1436
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: noon Eastern time on Big Fox. Huh or less than

1437
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 2: an hour away from this one. No, Jim Harbaugh will

1438
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 2: not be on the sideline suspended for three games because

1439
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: Michigan they are habitual sign stealing steppers over there. Sorry,

1440
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 2: advanced scouting, Yeah, I get it right, cheaters, not signs stealing.

1441
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, advanced scouting. Okay, exgressive unit

1442
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 2: over here. Yeah, that's what they're going with.

1443
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: Why would you let Harbaugh watch this game from anywhere

1444
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: on the sideline because I mean, now, now, you don't

1445
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 3: know where he is. He literally could be anywhere.

1446
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: He could be on be on the sideline. Connor Stallion's

1447
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: wasn't What if.

1448
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 2: He let's see what what if he goes to see

1449
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 2: Sparta and Ohio State today?

1450
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 3: That would be rache It's it's painful. How how much

1451
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 3: of the oxygen this story has gotten. Yeah, and and

1452
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 3: and really, when you when you think about competitive advantage,

1453
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 3: who who knows? Who knows? How much? How much these

1454
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 3: things really do? Uh do give competitive advantage to one side? Right?

1455
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 3: I mean there is there is an argument to be

1456
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 3: made that if you if you don't change your signals

1457
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 3: heading into a game against a team like the Patriots,

1458
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 3: for example, or a team like Michigan, who there before

1459
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 3: there's accusations made publicly, there's obviously a a wind that's

1460
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 3: blowing in the direction of oh, yeah, geez, you know,

1461
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 3: maybe we should be careful about some of the things

1462
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,560
Speaker 3: we do on the field. And so there is a

1463
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 3: certain level of accountability for the teams that have played

1464
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 3: against Michigan. But at the same token, if Michigan was

1465
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 3: going over and beyond, they should be punished. The problem

1466
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: is how much attention has been paid to this story.

1467
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 3: I think, frankly, some of the things they're being accused

1468
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 3: of are pretty normal in college football, and you've got

1469
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 3: a lot of football coaches now going, oh geez, fellas,

1470
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 3: like we got to rethink this whole thing, Like we

1471
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 3: too have been guilty of this, maybe not to the

1472
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 3: extent or as often as Michigan at times. So is

1473
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 3: this more to you guys, like when you think about

1474
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 3: this case an example of Michigan doing it the absolute

1475
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 3: worst and you know Jim Harbaugh is the guiltiest. Or

1476
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 3: is it more the NCAA and the Big Ten Conference

1477
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 3: they know this is going on and they want to

1478
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: make an example out of the Wolverines. Which side do

1479
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 3: you lean to more?

1480
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: Is it okay if I talk about the game?

1481
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 3: Do you get mine?

1482
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1483
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I've exhausted this narrative, and I

1484
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say that both sides could draw

1485
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: some motivation from it. Michigan probably will draw more motivation

1486
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: from it. But if I'm James Franklin right now talking

1487
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: to my dude's hour before the game, I'm saying what

1488
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm about to say to you, guys. No one's talking

1489
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: about the game. They should be because we're a darn

1490
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: good football team, and it's very fair to ask the

1491
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: question of how good Michigan really is. They have won

1492
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: every game by twenty four or more this year, which

1493
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: is unheard of. It's week eleven, though, and they have

1494
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: yet to face a ranked opponent. The best team on

1495
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: their schedule this year might be UNLV, who won again

1496
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: last night and is on their way to the Mountain

1497
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 1: West title game probably, So I don't know how good

1498
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: Michigan is. I have no idea how good Penn State

1499
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: is because they've managed up once and they got their

1500
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: you know what's kicked against Ohio State. So I think

1501
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: both of these teams are kind of, I don't want

1502
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: to say pretenders, but we don't know how good either

1503
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: of them really is. I think Michigan's better, but again,

1504
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: their best team on their schedule this year is UNLV

1505
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 1: or maybe Rutgers, So there's just not a lot of

1506
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: meat on the bone with either of these two team schedules.

1507
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: I think Penn State's defense needs to set the tone.

1508
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: JJ McCarty is going to be tested in this game.

1509
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 1: He is going to face pressure. Penn State's going to

1510
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: shut down the run, chop Robinson's back. There needs to

1511
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: be a lot of traffic in front of JJ McCarty.

1512
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: On the other side for Penn States offense, we talked

1513
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: about it in the Ohio State game. Didn't see a

1514
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: lot of explosion. Well in the last few weeks since

1515
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: that game, drew Aller I think has kind of come

1516
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: of age, had that game winning drive against Indiana, and

1517
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: then last week the narrative against Maryland was pushed the

1518
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: ball down the field. Well, guess what, almost half of

1519
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: his attempts were ten yards or more down the field

1520
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 1: last week. And he's starting to feel more comfortable being aggressive,

1521
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 1: so he's going to have to be. And I think

1522
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: this game actually might turn into a sneaky pass funnel

1523
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: because neither team's going to be able to run the ball,

1524
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: so which quarterback can throw throw it downfield effectively? Maybe

1525
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: it's Aller at home. I hope it is. We haven't

1526
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: seen it yet against the good defense. But if he

1527
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: does find a little bit of that magic and the

1528
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 1: receivers start to find some space, maybe Penn State's live.

1529
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: But I don't trust it until my I see it.

1530
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: That's why I'm not betting this game.

1531
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 2: Well, what stood out to me was that game winning

1532
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 2: drive against Indiana.

1533
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1534
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: That should be in the first or second quarter like

1535
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 2: it was for Michigan, Right Michigan beat him fifty two

1536
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: to seven. You know what I mean, Like, that's something

1537
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: I take into account. The other thing I take into account.

1538
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying Penn State has no shot. I'm

1539
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 2: not saying that. I would tell you if that's what

1540
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 2: I believed. I think that sometimes we go into movie

1541
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 2: trailer mode, right, you see a movie trailer and the

1542
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 2: voiceover guide in a world and all that type of

1543
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes we do that with our analysis.

1544
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 3: Right.

1545
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm just speaking in generalities over here, because you know

1546
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 2: as well as I do, if Michigan wins convincingly today,

1547
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 2: the talking points will be, oh, they were ticked off.

1548
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 2: You could tell on social media when everyone wrote Bett

1549
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: when they really meant to write bet MGM where they're like, oh,

1550
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna suspend Harbaugh. Okay, it's on. It's freaking on now.

1551
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 2: And they took that and they ran with it. Last

1552
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 2: year Michigan won forty one to seventeen and rushed for

1553
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: over four hundred yards against Penn State. But you know,

1554
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 2: as well as I do, if Michigan wins convincingly today,

1555
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: it's going to be solely about Harbab being suspended. I

1556
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 2: just think that is funny. But if ben State wants

1557
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 2: to guard against that, like you said, Jared, you gotta

1558
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 2: generate some explosive plays. This offense has been largely safe,

1559
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: not explosive. That's not gonna work against the firepower that

1560
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 2: Michigan has. And they're gonna hit on some explosive plays.

1561
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: They're just you can't keep them in check the whole game, lunth.

1562
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: You gotta generate some of your own.

1563
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, listen, I do agree with some of

1564
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 3: what you're saying, Brian, Like I think that media narratives

1565
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 3: can be wildly overblown. And I do think that a

1566
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 3: narrative if you really break down what we're talking about

1567
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 3: when we say the word narrative, it's a story that

1568
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 3: you're following rights. It has a beginning, a rising action,

1569
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 3: a climax, and a falling action to a conclusion. Like

1570
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 3: there is a narrative each game week that players and

1571
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 3: teams they're they're following along too, and a lot of

1572
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 3: times it doesn't match the narrative on the outside. Like

1573
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 3: I could give you the example from inside the Washington

1574
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 3: or excuse me, the Wolverines locker room, and it's very easy.

1575
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 3: It's us against the world. Right, If I'm Jim Harbaugh,

1576
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 3: what's the easiest way to get our team motivated is

1577
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 3: telling these guys, repeating to these guys, everybody doesn't think

1578
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 3: you're good, and you've beat every team you face by

1579
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 3: twenty plus. Everybody thinks that we're cheaters. Well I got

1580
01:23:56,040 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 3: news for you. We didn't cheat, whether that's true or not, cheat,

1581
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 3: and we're gonna go out there and we're gonna beat

1582
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 3: up on Penn State. So it's us against the world.

1583
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 3: On the Penn State side, what's motivating them is nobody's

1584
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 3: talking about Penn State. Ye, Like, if I'm James Franklin,

1585
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the focus being completely on the other team,

1586
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 3: our opponent here and they're coming to our house, and

1587
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 3: everybody is talking about how Michigan's gonna whoop us because

1588
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,839
Speaker 3: they're all of a sudden emotionally motivated because they're cheaters.

1589
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:29,839
Speaker 3: I like those emotions matter, But again, the overarching national

1590
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 3: narrative doesn't match the narrative that is going to be

1591
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 3: preached and discussed inside of these locker rooms now. Talking

1592
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: about a simple game plan. Standpoint, if your Penn State,

1593
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 3: what you need to do with a healthier defense than

1594
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 3: you've had in weeks is you need to get JJ

1595
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 3: McCarthy uncomfortable. You need to find a way, whether it's

1596
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 3: with pressure packages or simulated pressure packages like Manny Diaz

1597
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 3: does a lot where you know you're showing seven defensive

1598
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 3: bodies on the line of scrimmage and all of a sudden,

1599
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 3: only four are rushing, and it takes a quarterback a

1600
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 3: beat to realize like, oh goodness, like there's a lot

1601
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 3: more bodies in coverage all of a sudden, and then

1602
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 3: the rush gets home, Like that is going to be

1603
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 3: the goal. If I'm James Franklin and I'm looking at

1604
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 3: this Michigan Wolverine's offense and I'm thinking, how do I

1605
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 3: slow them down? It's by getting JJ McCarthy to think,

1606
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 3: have him thinking more, because when quarterbacks have to think

1607
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 3: instead of react, they stink usually. So I think that's

1608
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 3: going to be the Penn State game plan. I think

1609
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 3: this is going to be a really close game. And

1610
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 3: I unfortunately, I mean, if I had to pick a side,

1611
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: I mean history represents itself well in this matchup. I mean,

1612
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 3: James Franklin has not performed well against top ten teams.

1613
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 3: His record is ridiculous. What is it. I just pulled

1614
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 3: it up. He's three and sixteen against top ten football

1615
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 3: teams in his career, So from an emotion standpoint, I

1616
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 3: think emotions play a role, and so far over his

1617
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 3: career he hasn't done a good job of getting his

1618
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 3: teams up to play in these moments.

1619
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: Nine straight losses versus the top five, four and fifteen

1620
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: against Ohio State and Michigan. James Kunkland in his career

1621
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: at Penn State, I think the biggest surprise this year

1622
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: and Rich this probably will surprise you, being you know,

1623
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: cut from the old lineman ilk and how good Penn

1624
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: State has been in prior years doing this. Penn State

1625
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: stinks at running the ball this year. I mean flat

1626
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: out sinks. And that is a massive surprise. Why they

1627
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 1: have arguably the two most talented backs in the country

1628
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: Singleton and Allen one point seven two yards per rush

1629
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 1: before first contact last week against Maryland. Maryland, They're not

1630
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: going to be able to run the ball against Michigan.

1631
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 1: I mean they're just not so. And on the other side,

1632
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm a big I'm kind of surprised that how I

1633
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: don't want to say pedestrian, but compared to last year

1634
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 1: where Donovan Edwards and Blake look like Barry Sanders reincarnated.

1635
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: Both of those guys have really struggled this year, and

1636
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: I use the word struggle, you know, relatively speaking compared

1637
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 1: to last year, those guys are well below what their

1638
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 1: numbers were. So both running games have been non existent

1639
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: against very subpar opponents. These are the probably best two

1640
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: defensive lines outside of Penn State playing Ohio State, and

1641
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: they couldn't run it there that these offenses are going

1642
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 1: to face all season, so I don't see a whole

1643
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: lot of room up front. This game is going to

1644
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: be won. Can Manny Diaz do what Rich said, scheme

1645
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: something up to make McCarthy uncomfortable. Roman Wilson's the best

1646
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 1: weapon Michigan has. They had better weapons last year. There's

1647
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 1: not a lot of pop and explosion with this Michigan offense.

1648
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 1: Manny Diaz can scheme up some things, can create a

1649
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: turnover short field. That is the recipe for Penn State

1650
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 1: to win this game. It's not the running game, it's

1651
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 1: Drew Aller not making that mistake and Manny Diaz forcing

1652
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: McCarthy to make that mistake. I think if this game

1653
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: is played in a vacuum, no turnovers on either side.

1654
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: Michigan wins, but havoc home field. Maybe that's the X

1655
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 1: factor for the Nitney Liones today.

1656
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I'm very interested in the game obviously, and

1657
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:24,919
Speaker 2: the sign stealing slash advanced scouting story. It's so interesting

1658
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 2: to me because of this. I'll go back to audio

1659
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 2: from Brett Beilama, the Illinois head coach this week, and

1660
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 2: he talked a little bit about this, and he said

1661
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: when he was facing Northwestern I think this is when

1662
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 2: he was still at Wisconsin, he said that Pat Fitzgerald

1663
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 2: he could hear in his headset their play calls wow, right,

1664
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: and he told everybody like, get off that channel, Let's

1665
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,600
Speaker 2: not do this, Let's play him straight up. And he's like,

1666
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 2: that was the peak of integrity. I have the utmost

1667
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 2: of respect for Pat Fitzgerald for doing that. And he's like,

1668
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 2: what Michigan is doing is sickening. And what I find

1669
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 2: intriguing is why did this come about? When did this

1670
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:08,839
Speaker 2: come about from Michigan?

1671
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 3: Right?

1672
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 2: Because you think about Harbaugh, he struggled for a long time,

1673
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: specifically against Ohio State, could not be at Ohio State,

1674
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 2: got crushed by Ohio state numerous times. Is that when

1675
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: it started, when he's like, we gotta find an edge.

1676
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 2: We got to find something that gives us an edge,

1677
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: no matter how great it is. If it's a small edge,

1678
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: it's an edge. We'll take it. Just how this came

1679
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 2: about is really really interesting to me. And the denials

1680
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 2: and I don't know anything about it. When Connor's pointing

1681
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 2: to the heavens and it's like, why did you turn around?

1682
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 2: Be like, Connor, what are you doing? Man? The lies

1683
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: like this is just dripping with goodness. The reaction and

1684
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 2: the idiocy that follows a lot of this, It is

1685
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:56,440
Speaker 2: just it's too good to overlook. And that shouldn't overshadow

1686
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,600
Speaker 2: this matchup because it's a great matchup, But if you

1687
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 2: look at where it accentuates the matchup, I think it

1688
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 2: works in that regard.

1689
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.

1690
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 8: Like you know, I.

1691
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 3: Know that I grow tired of a story when there's

1692
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 3: not many more details to discuss, and I feel like

1693
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 3: we've sort of been in a holding pattern for two weeks,

1694
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 3: but all of a sudden, on the day before a

1695
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 3: game where we know how important tho it's twenty four

1696
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 3: hours are while a team is in the air, flying

1697
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 3: to the destination for arguably the biggest game of the

1698
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 3: college football season on the road. That's when the suspension

1699
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 3: is announced, like this is in look and I get it, like,

1700
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 3: if Michigan is guilty and found guilty after a thorough

1701
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 3: investigation of all the things that they've been alleged to

1702
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 3: be involved with, they should be punished, and they should

1703
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 3: be punished deeply and harshly and all those things. However,

1704
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 3: for this to be announced, I mean, it is so contrived.

1705
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 3: It is so contrived for the announcement to be while

1706
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 3: they were It really is like, you know what's happening here.

1707
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 3: You know what Tony Pettiti and the rest of these

1708
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 3: Big Ten coaches, I mean the coaches that this has

1709
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 3: all been doctored up. This has been cooked up to

1710
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 3: make us to finally give us a little morsel, a

1711
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 3: little something more to nibble on before this game, because ay,

1712
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 3: it's better for the brand. The Big Ten is all

1713
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 3: anybody's talking about in the college football world right now.

1714
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 3: Whether it's controversial or not. People are paying attention. Bad news.

1715
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 3: I mean it rates just as good as good news.

1716
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 3: That's the facts. So if you want to have attention

1717
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 3: on this game. If you want to have viewership number

1718
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 3: on this game, if you want to have people buying

1719
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 3: into storylines and chewing on narratives like we've been instead

1720
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 3: of choking on them over the past two weeks, well

1721
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 3: this is the way you do it. I guarantee you.

1722
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 3: This is gonna be one of the top rated games

1723
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:56,839
Speaker 3: viewed in college football this season, and it's for good reason.

1724
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 3: It's because they finally gave us a nugget to chewan,

1725
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 3: like twelve hours out from kickoff.

1726
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: I hate how I hand I mean we talked about

1727
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 1: off top of this show. I hate how they handled it.

1728
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: I hate everything about how the Big Ten handled this.

1729
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: It is one of the worst handlings of a situation

1730
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 1: I think that Penn State fans and players could have

1731
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 1: asked for. All they have to do is nothing for

1732
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 1: the next three weeks, and then they'll have the whole

1733
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 1: offseason to figure out what went wrong, what went right?

1734
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: What they did it the night before the game. You're right,

1735
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 1: it was done with a purpose in mind to not

1736
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: only disrupt what's happening behind the scenes, but also create

1737
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 1: more of a storyline for this game. So I can't

1738
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 1: stand it, and I hope it doesn't have an impact

1739
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: on the game. But Brian, you're right. If Michigan wins,

1740
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: that'll be the story. If Penn State wins, is it

1741
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: on the other side, Oh, Michigan was distracted. They got

1742
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: too hyped up. Like, what's the other side of that

1743
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: coin for you?

1744
01:32:58,160 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 2: They missed Jim Harbaugh.

1745
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. But either way, it's like, it's not

1746
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: about Penn State. Like I feel bad for the Penn

1747
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 1: State kids here because it's lose lose for them. If

1748
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: they win, well, Jim Harbaugh was gone. That's why they won.

1749
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 1: If they lost, well, they got screwed by the Big

1750
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 1: Ten because they gave Michigan all the motivation. Like, and

1751
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 1: I know I'm speaking at it from the biased perspective

1752
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 1: of a Penn State alawm that is desperate for a

1753
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 1: win over one of these programs, but the way that

1754
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 1: they handled it it does not make it seem fair

1755
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: to the Penn State side or even the Ohio State

1756
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: side of the argument. In a few weeks when those

1757
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: two teams plague again, and I guess Maryland too. But

1758
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 1: let's be honest, that game is kind of an afterthought.

1759
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 2: Well that's true, Like Penn State would have to do

1760
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 2: something seismic to be the story. Yeah, like that's what

1761
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 2: it's down to Right now. We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn

1762
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 2: State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting Analyst. I'm Brian

1763
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 2: No coming up next, Ranked versus Ranked with the lack

1764
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 2: of bizazz, not often you could say that you might

1765
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 2: be able to say it about this matchup. We'll dive

1766
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 2: into that.

1767
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 3: Coming up.

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01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:08,200
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Speaker 2: a reward. This matchup is interesting to me, guys. We

1781
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 2: got number thirteen Tennessee against number fourteen Missouri. And I'm

1782
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 2: not sure what you guys feel about it or how

1783
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:58,600
Speaker 2: you feel about it, but my feeling is this is

1784
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 2: like a film starring two supporting actors and you're like,

1785
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 2: we don't have a lead actor though, you know what

1786
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 2: I mean, like.

1787
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 3: Like Christmas movies?

1788
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what was it Telde Good Knights with Will Ferrell?

1789
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 2: And is it j c Riley? As I might not

1790
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 2: have that John, but it'd be like Riley and another

1791
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 2: supporting actor and that's the film. And you're like, we

1792
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 2: kind of need a leading act like you.

1793
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,839
Speaker 3: Just described the legend of Dewey Cox.

1794
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

1795
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 2: But listen, next year, a game like this Tennessee Missouri.

1796
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 2: This could be for a playoff spot. This could be

1797
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,560
Speaker 2: for an inside track of a playoff spot in the

1798
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 2: twelve team playoff. But this year, when it's only four teams,

1799
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 2: I think this game is largely gonna gonna be overlooked.

1800
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 2: And it's a good matchup, it's just on the heels

1801
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 2: of losing to Georgia, which Missouri did last week. They

1802
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 2: fought hard but coming up short. It just feels like

1803
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 2: this matchup has a lack of sizzle.

1804
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you, and I think it's

1805
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 3: it's also because of that, right, you know, if somehow

1806
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 3: Tennessee found a way to or excuse me, Missouri found

1807
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 3: a way to upset Georgia, you know, and like you said,

1808
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 3: that was a hard fog game that was a thirty

1809
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 3: to twenty one final there, or if Tennessee wasn't coming

1810
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 3: off of a game against you know, a very subpar opponent. Yeah,

1811
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 3: I do. I forget the final on the Yukon game,

1812
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 3: but they absolutely destroyed.

1813
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 2: That fifty I think it's like fifty five to three

1814
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 2: or something crazy.

1815
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also, by the way, we were just discussing it,

1816
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 3: but this whole Big Ten Conference fiasco with Michigan and

1817
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 3: the science stealing scandal and that really gobbling up the

1818
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 3: majority of the daylight. I agree with you. I think

1819
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 3: I think this is this is a low buzz game,

1820
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 3: but it has enormous implications in terms of what's gonna

1821
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 3: happen in the SEC and so I I I don't

1822
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 3: know what to say about it. I think I feel

1823
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 3: bad in certain times, in certain times for teams or

1824
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 3: players on teams that that are out of the limelight,

1825
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 3: and it's not it's not by virtue of anything they've

1826
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 3: done wrong necessarily, it's just it's just the virtue of

1827
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:30,879
Speaker 3: the narrative. Like where the media and frankly fan viewers

1828
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 3: nationally only have so much bandwidth and and there's only

1829
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 3: so many storylines to concentrate on. You kind of have

1830
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 3: to do something, You have to do something big in

1831
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 3: order for a story to cut through. But it is

1832
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 3: an important game, and I agree with you. I think

1833
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 3: it's it's a better matchup then they'll they'll probably anybody

1834
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,520
Speaker 3: will give a give a give this game credit.

1835
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 1: For it is. Actually it is actually a very interesting matchup.

1836
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a good betting game. There's value on

1837
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 1: Tennessee here, guys, I bet him on the money line

1838
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: earlier this week. A very prominent and very successful professional

1839
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: group also gave that out this week. So that's why

1840
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: we're seeing this a little bit move towards three. I

1841
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 1: don't think it'll fully get there. Maybe it did. Actually,

1842
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 1: now that we saw the Luther Burden news come out,

1843
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: it probably is moving towards Missouri a little bit. Yeah,

1844
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm seeing twos and two and a half's out there.

1845
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 1: I would probably feel comfortable laying the two, but the

1846
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: money line is also acceptable around minus one thirty or so.

1847
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 1: But with the news that Burden's back in, I don't

1848
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: know if it's a decoy or not. Right like we've been,

1849
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,719
Speaker 1: we've been kind of hoodwinked by the injuries of college

1850
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 1: football prominent college football players this year. He didn't look

1851
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 1: great last week against Georgia. I know he had the

1852
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 1: big play early in the game and then the injury

1853
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 1: kind of acted up later and he was pretty much

1854
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: a decoy. But if he does play and if he

1855
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 1: is productive, well, it does change the equation a little

1856
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: bit here because I think theoies who's the number two

1857
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 1: receiver for Missouri. He acts a lot better as the

1858
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,560
Speaker 1: number right. He is a supporting actor where Burden is

1859
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: the lead, and when we has to get thrust into

1860
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:09,560
Speaker 1: the starting number one role, I think that's where Missouri's

1861
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: offense kind of takes a step back. And this Tennessee defense,

1862
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm surprised they've been infinitely better against the pass than

1863
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: the run this year, So that's an interesting matchup. I think.

1864
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: On the other side, I think Tennessee's run game is

1865
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: gonna have some success here Tennessee, and last year was

1866
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,799
Speaker 1: all about the passing game with Hooker and those fantastic receivers.

1867
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:29,560
Speaker 1: This year it's the running game, and they've got a

1868
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: three headed monster to keep a really close eye on, right,

1869
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: Small Sampson, that trio of backs I think is gonna

1870
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 1: have some success in this game. The game plan is

1871
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: pretty obvious for Missouri. You've got to stop the run.

1872
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: But they didn't stop it last week, and as you mentioned,

1873
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 1: coming off that very physical, tough loss against Georgia where

1874
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 1: they kept it close, they had a chance to win,

1875
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 1: didn't get over the hump. Now you have to come

1876
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: back and play another tough, physical Tennessee offense this week,

1877
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 1: while as the balls last week were in cupcake mode,

1878
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of cruising past Yukon. So I

1879
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: think situationally, this is a pretty good spot for Tennessee.

1880
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 1: Now Burden's explosive and back to his usual self, he

1881
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,640
Speaker 1: could wreck the game, but I think you take him

1882
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 1: off the board. I think Tennessee's gonna win this one.

1883
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 9: Man.

1884
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 2: I would love to bet a Tennessee running back prop.

1885
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 2: But like you said, Jared, that eheaded monster, it's tough huff, right,

1886
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 2: and all three of them have been great.

1887
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1888
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, they've and they've put up numbers, they've had success.

1889
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:25,680
Speaker 2: And the other thing this matchup shows you. These are

1890
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 2: two teams ranked in the top fifteen, and I think

1891
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 2: a lot of college football fans are like, eh, yawn.

1892
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 2: It shows you the margin for error you have in

1893
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 2: the SEC and also college football as a whole, but

1894
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 2: specifically the SEC. You look at Missouri, they're right in

1895
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 2: the game against Jaden Daniels in LSU. They end up

1896
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 2: losing that one, and then they lose to Georgia and

1897
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 2: it's like, ah, you're playing a top fifteen team, yawn. Right,

1898
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 2: Like if you look at Tennessee, they lose a tough

1899
01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 2: one at Florida, they got out played, and then they

1900
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 2: got out played in the second half at Alabama, and

1901
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,799
Speaker 2: now it's like, eh, yeahn you're playing a top fifteen

1902
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 2: team in conference for number two in the SEC East.

1903
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 2: Who cares, right, Like, yeah, that's largely the reaction. That's

1904
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 2: crazy that your margin for error is that slim between

1905
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 2: being like a talked about team and a completely overlooked team.

1906
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 2: But that's where they are. And I think Tennessee, like

1907
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 2: you said, Jared, they're gonna be able to run the

1908
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 2: ball effectively. I take my hat off to what Tennessee

1909
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,759
Speaker 2: has been able to do this year with Josh Hipel

1910
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 2: to have a completely different style. It's not those chunk plays,

1911
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:40,679
Speaker 2: those shock plays, just air it out with Hendon Hooker.

1912
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 2: It is run the ball, play effective defense. It is

1913
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 2: a completely different style. And to be the thirteenth ranked team,

1914
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 2: that's a great coaching job by Josh Hipelin company there.

1915
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they really have adjusted well. And part of

1916
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,719
Speaker 3: it is because you know, and this isn't a focus

1917
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 3: of a lot of people, but the offensive line for

1918
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 3: Tennessee is really good. You know, they've done a nice

1919
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 3: job opening up running lanes. They've protected Milton extremely well

1920
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 3: so far this season, and a clean pocket against a

1921
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 3: Missouri secondary that's a little bit leaky in their pass

1922
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 3: coverage could spell success for Tennessee. And again rewinding back

1923
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 3: to what Jared said about a hard fought game even

1924
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 3: in a loss. But that's max effort for four quarters

1925
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 3: against the Georgia Bulldogs that the Missouri Tigers are coming

1926
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 3: off of. So if there's ever a spot for Tennessee

1927
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 3: to catch, I don't want to say an easier matchup,

1928
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 3: but a team that's licking their wounds a little bit

1929
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,480
Speaker 3: from an injury standpoint, and also coming off a turbulent

1930
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 3: and emotional loss to a team they had a real

1931
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 3: shot of beating and breaking through on the national level.

1932
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 3: It's it's this game. So I agree with the Tennessee side.

1933
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,839
Speaker 3: I think that I don't know what was the number again, Jared.

1934
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 1: It's kind of two to two and a half, And

1935
01:42:57,439 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: again the market. Sometimes I just let the market kind

1936
01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: of tell me who the better team is. Right, these

1937
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 1: are two teams that are ranked right on the same level.

1938
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: They have the same exact record. Missouri's without their best receiver.

1939
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: Now we're hearing that Missouri receiver might play. Yet Tennessee

1940
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 1: is still favored by almost a full field goal on

1941
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 1: the road. So that means you're giving Missouri maybe a

1942
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 1: field goal at home. That means on a neutral Tennessee

1943
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: would be about a five to six point favorite. Here

1944
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: tells me. Yeah, that tells me who the better team is.

1945
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: And I think when you look at the market, it

1946
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 1: gives you the indicator when you have these very evenly

1947
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 1: matched teams. You look at a road favorite, and then

1948
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 1: you get the news baked in. Now with Burden probably playing,

1949
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 1: yet we still haven't seen a whole lot of fluctuation.

1950
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 1: We haven't seen a lot of buyback on Missouri yet.

1951
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 1: So I just think Tennessee is a better team, you know,

1952
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 1: at their core, I think they've got better players, and

1953
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 1: I think they're more suited for this kind of matchup,

1954
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 1: whereas Missouri's probably licking their wounds a little bit and frankly,

1955
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 1: probably overachieved through the first ten weeks of the year.

1956
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 2: All Right, We've got Rich Orenberger State All American. We've

1957
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 2: got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian no coming

1958
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 2: up next, picks galore. We will go rapid fire. Jared

1959
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:10,599
Speaker 2: will have a player of the day for you. That's

1960
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 2: on the way. It is Fox Sports Radios Campdown to Kickoff,

1961
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:14,920
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1962
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:18,160
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1963
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:21,599
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1964
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:25,800
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1965
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:26,559
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1966
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radios Campdown to Kickoff, presented by

1967
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 2: Bett MGM. Props to the crew man Bo Benz entrusted producer.

1968
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 2: We've got Chris Purfett, Technical producer, Isaac Loewenkron doing an

1969
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,719
Speaker 2: exceptional job. Top of the Hour, up on game, Arnie

1970
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 2: Spaniard and Carrie Rhoades. Carrie Rhodes Louisville Cardinals. They survived,

1971
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 2: survived against Virginia, but they're moving on here with a

1972
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 2: shot to maybe face Florida State in the ACC title game.

1973
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 2: That's at the the hour, Arnie and Carrie, we got

1974
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 2: a bunch of picks to make. Let's dive on in.

1975
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 3: Rapid fire.

1976
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 2: All right, Jared, we'll start with you.

1977
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 3: What are you thinking, man?

1978
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? One and two last week again, still above five

1979
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 1: hundred for the year, but a lot of work left

1980
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 1: to be done and a lot more runway still to tread.

1981
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 1: I will take eight points with Utah. This is down

1982
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: from nine to nine and a half earlier this week,

1983
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 1: still above that key number of seven. So I still

1984
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 1: feel comfortable taking the more than a touchdown with the utes.

1985
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 1: Weather game in Seattle today, rain win. What else is new?

1986
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: Rain in Seattle? So keep an eye on that as

1987
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 1: we get closer to kickoff. But I think that's gonna

1988
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 1: only benefit Utah. Runs the ball in Michael Fennix Junior

1989
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 1: in that Washington offense that likes to be more precise

1990
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,600
Speaker 1: in the passing game. I think the win will have

1991
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 1: an impact there, and I think Kyle Winningham will draw

1992
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 1: something up, keep this game close, maybe even pull off

1993
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 1: the upset. I've fallen more in love with this weight

1994
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:55,759
Speaker 1: game as the morning has gone on, because Way continues

1995
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 1: to take money down to one and a half. Now,

1996
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: Mike close a pick them. We'll take one and a

1997
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 1: half with you want to play the money line, that's fine,

1998
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: too big letdown spot for NC State year, all those

1999
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 1: back to back wins over Miami and Clemson and no

2000
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 1: more MJ. Morris, Brendan Armstrong for NC State today. So

2001
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 1: we'll take Wait plus one and a half.

2002
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 3: All right. I got ole Miss plus ten and a

2003
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 3: half on the road at Georgia. Look the Bulldogs. They've

2004
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 3: only covered the spread twice in their last eight games.

2005
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 3: They're slightly overinflated in terms of the spread. They lost

2006
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 3: All American linebacker Dumas Johnson to a forearm injury. Their

2007
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 3: defense has allowed at least twenty points in five of

2008
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 3: their last six games. Ole Miss can score. I like

2009
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 3: them getting to ten and a half on the road. Also,

2010
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 3: I got USC getting fifteen and a half at Oregon.

2011
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 3: The Trojans look, they've won a lot of games big,

2012
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 3: they've lost some close games, excluding the single week against

2013
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,639
Speaker 3: Irish that was a blowout loss. I like the Trojans

2014
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 3: in this spot. Oh yeah. Caleb Williams is the beating

2015
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,639
Speaker 3: heart of this team, and I think he still has

2016
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 3: a ton to play for. So I think this is

2017
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:06,719
Speaker 3: a closer game. Utah at Washington. The totals under forty

2018
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 3: nine and a half. The game plan the whole way,

2019
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 3: in my opinion, is gonna be the shorten the game

2020
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 3: if you're at the Utah Utes majoring in the run

2021
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 3: against a very average, if not poor Huskies rushing defense.

2022
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 3: So I'll take the under forty and nine and a

2023
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 3: hook as the Utes play keep away good stuff. Rich

2024
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna start it off. I like Tennessee

2025
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 3: minus two and a half on the road. They've gotten

2026
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,680
Speaker 3: the better of Missouri the last couple of years. I

2027
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 3: think it's a tough.

2028
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 2: Spot for Mazoo coming off the Georgia loss last week.

2029
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it.

2030
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 2: I'm laying fifteen and a half with the Ducks. I

2031
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 2: think they are going to be completely unstoppable against USC

2032
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 2: and Oregon plays much better defense than the Trojans do.

2033
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 2: It's a big number to lay, but I will lay

2034
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 2: north of two touchdowns.

2035
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 4: Wow.

2036
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 2: And then for my final act, I hope that's the

2037
01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 2: wow of approval.

2038
01:47:58,800 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 3: There, Rich.

2039
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,759
Speaker 1: Of a head to head match, I know we agast

2040
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 1: each other. A group text is gonna be later.

2041
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna get wild late tonight, late night.

2042
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 3: Yes.

2043
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:13,680
Speaker 2: And then uh man, I'm laying weather Dor side with

2044
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 2: Jared because I like Utah plus eight or go with

2045
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 2: the prop bet you know what, it's won my card.

2046
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:22,640
Speaker 2: We'll be brothers in arms here, Jared. Let's go with

2047
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 2: Utah plus station. I think they run the ball effectively

2048
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 2: whether I like that. That favors the youths as well,

2049
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 2: So I'll take the eight and.

2050
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:31,680
Speaker 3: Roll with them. All right, let's do this.

2051
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 5: Day.

2052
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 3: It's a touchdown, all right.

2053
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 2: Jared, best play?

2054
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 3: What do you have for us?

2055
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about this game at all, but it's

2056
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 1: kind of an important game in the Mountain West, so

2057
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:49,640
Speaker 1: Fresno State traveling to San Jose State tonight. You've got

2058
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: the Spartans off the by. They have played a much

2059
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 1: tougher schedule. I'm sure Rich has followed along with San

2060
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 1: Jose steak this year, of course, being a very expert

2061
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 1: in that conference. But this was a weird start to

2062
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 1: the season for the Spartans. They got blasted by USC

2063
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 1: but they covered the number. Then they played Oregon State,

2064
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:08,640
Speaker 1: played them tough, almost beat Toledo on the road, and

2065
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 1: Toledo is the best team in the MAC. They had

2066
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 1: a lead over air Force at halftime. So they have

2067
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: played some really tough opponents this year. Well, Fresno State,

2068
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 1: it's been cupcake after cupcake after cupcake. And again, let

2069
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,600
Speaker 1: the market dictate who the better team is. Seven and

2070
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 1: one Fresno State against four and four San Jose State.

2071
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 1: The Spartans are favored in this game. They're off the

2072
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 1: by they're rested. Fresno was lucky to get past Boise

2073
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:32,879
Speaker 1: last week. They had a kick return for a touchdown.

2074
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 1: Some very fluky plays at the end of that game

2075
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 1: gave him the cover. So I'll take the Spartan San

2076
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 1: Jose State minus two and a half.

2077
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 2: Tony, you guys, there's some time you could switch a

2078
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,719
Speaker 2: pick and roll with your Nitney Lyons.

2079
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 1: No, but I think Bench State keeps it close. No, Yeah,

2080
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 1: I can't take yeah alburn for him, but I'm not

2081
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: betting it today.

2082
01:49:54,520 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I'm rooting for you, which means like everybody

2083
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 2: enjoyed the ball, we'll catch you next week.