Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome back to Return to the Shadows.
Speaker 1: How are you, don fantastic? How are you? I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm currently in a trailer in the rain
Speaker 1: in New Mexico. So it's it's quite a likely day
Speaker 1: to New Mexico. Yes, and when you're doing a Western
Speaker 1: that leads to so many lightning delays, exciting day for you. Indeed,
Speaker 1: tomorrow is the big day for Walker Independence. We premiere
Speaker 1: on well today as October five, but you know tomorrow
Speaker 1: will be October six. I don't know when this episode
Speaker 1: is gonna come out, but hey, thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hit. I can feel it. I
Speaker 1: can feel my phones. Oh here's open speaking of big hits,
Speaker 1: our characters who took a big hit last episode. And
Speaker 1: there's there's a particular big hit that I really love
Speaker 1: in this episode. But let's let's dive in, shall we.
Speaker 1: So today we are what I'm like trying to remember
Speaker 1: what happens in this episode that such episode. Yeah, oh well,
Speaker 1: well we'll come to it. It's it's maybe less of
Speaker 1: a hit and more of a blast, as it were.
Speaker 1: I see, I see very clever. Well, cat tell Us
Speaker 1: what we're in for. Yeah, we are on too. Season two,
Speaker 1: episode five of shadow Hunters and titled Dust and Shadows.
Speaker 1: It aired on January. Written by the lovely Zach Hug
Speaker 1: who we adore ever so much, directed by the also
Speaker 1: lovely Sally Richardson Whitfield, who I am so proud of
Speaker 1: and has gone on to do so many incredible things.
Speaker 1: Starring Kevin McNamara myself as Clary Fray, Dominic Sherwood, is
Speaker 1: Jas whaland Alberta Rosende, Matthew Didaria, Emard to be A
Speaker 1: as A Mustafa, Harry Sham Jr. Christina Cox, Maxim Roy,
Speaker 1: Nick Sagar, Stephanie Belding, and Stephanie Bennett. We have such
Speaker 1: a great group, John tell us what we're in for Today?
Speaker 1: The shadow Hunters tried to regroup after the recent attack
Speaker 1: on the Institute. The shadow Hunters, left devastated and wounded,
Speaker 1: tried to regroup. Each of the shadow Hunters deals with
Speaker 1: the situation their own way. Meanwhile, Simon moves home but
Speaker 1: finds it's not so easy to put off his new
Speaker 1: life with his family around. Oh my goodness, so many
Speaker 1: things happened in this episode. So when we left off,
Speaker 1: we had a catatonic clary A Jace who had just
Speaker 1: gotten back from the City of Bones and uh An.
Speaker 1: Alec realized he had just killed not only this new
Speaker 1: little girl's mother but his parabatized mom or so he understands,
Speaker 1: and I mom, I completely completely forgot this scene existed
Speaker 1: between you and Alec on the roof, and it's so
Speaker 1: lovely because it's very rare that we get to see
Speaker 1: these moments with YouTube parabtize, just having a conversation and
Speaker 1: not trying to kill something totally. I remember talking to
Speaker 1: Matt about this at the time, you know, especially as
Speaker 1: young men, and we talked very often about how forward
Speaker 1: thinking this show was, especially for young women for sort
Speaker 1: of marginalized groups, which I think is vital. But we
Speaker 1: also get to touch on little things like this, like
Speaker 1: sort of men who don't really share their feelings correctly
Speaker 1: and rather sort of bottle it up, which is somewhat
Speaker 1: indoctrinated it. I feel like it's getting a little better
Speaker 1: now within society, but somewhat indoctrinated into a lot of
Speaker 1: men of my generation. And every now and then we
Speaker 1: get these really lovely moments between two adult men who
Speaker 1: are warriors who were trying to compound their feelings and
Speaker 1: not explore them correctly, And every now and then we
Speaker 1: get these little moments were try and sort of break
Speaker 1: those barriers down, and they do. They sort of progressively
Speaker 1: get more and more explorative and sort of intimate. When
Speaker 1: the two of them kind of opened up with with
Speaker 1: how they're struggling with this was, Yeah, this was as
Speaker 1: as harrowing as this scene is, it's actually quite nice,
Speaker 1: quite a nice moment between two of them, and we
Speaker 1: get to see, you know, Alex shooting Samarrows on the
Speaker 1: roof and being the baddest that he is. And then again,
Speaker 1: I remember when this next scene between Clarie and Simon,
Speaker 1: I remember when this episode aired Originally, We've gotten and
Speaker 1: this happened a few times in this episode. We've gotten
Speaker 1: on such a pace and on such a role. With
Speaker 1: the pace of shooting this season, I completely forgot this
Speaker 1: scene existed. I forgot that I even shot this scene
Speaker 1: with Alberto because I also got to work with him
Speaker 1: so rarely at this point in the series. But it's,
Speaker 1: you know, it's again, it's it parallels the moment with
Speaker 1: you and Alex. You really get to see these family
Speaker 1: bonds that have formed, even as untradition all as they are,
Speaker 1: and see these people deal with grief and that's you know, yes,
Speaker 1: we're in a world surrounded by death, but when something
Speaker 1: hits close to home, it's it's still you know, they're
Speaker 1: they're human in some part in person. Absolutely, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think that was sort of the crux of our
Speaker 1: show for a long time, is exploring these very human
Speaker 1: emotions under the guise of this very fantastical world around it.
Speaker 1: And following that scene, we have almost immediately another scene
Speaker 1: where we get to explore probably one of the only
Speaker 1: emotionally sound characters in the show who has had the
Speaker 1: time to come to terms with X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1: But he and he's actually a wonderful example of especially
Speaker 1: a man, but also everything else that makes Magnus so special.
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful example and a wonderful role model to
Speaker 1: not only the characters in the show, but also the
Speaker 1: audiences that were watching that these emotions can be dealt
Speaker 1: with correctly and you can share them and can talk
Speaker 1: about things. You know, he's had arguably one of the
Speaker 1: most horrific part hosts of anyone watching him explore that,
Speaker 1: I think or at least I hope, and I think
Speaker 1: Zact did a good job of this with the writing
Speaker 1: and Sally with the directing. Gives sort of one the
Speaker 1: credence and the freedom to explore that potentially within themselves,
Speaker 1: and like enjoying someone else do it and watching someone
Speaker 1: else do it and doing it and seeing that they
Speaker 1: have sort of come out of the other side, I
Speaker 1: guess gives you the freedom to do it, which is cool.
Speaker 1: And of course Harry freaking smashes it as always, of course,
Speaker 1: you know, and there's as as always with Clary, She's
Speaker 1: presented with different role models in different situations that you
Speaker 1: know she could follow, but doesn't quite listen to them
Speaker 1: entirely or at all, given that she you know, takes
Speaker 1: this memory that Magnus gives to her, which is so beautiful,
Speaker 1: given the fact that you know, he I think he
Speaker 1: regarded himself as sort of the warden and the safeguard
Speaker 1: of her memories and then they gave them up, but
Speaker 1: the memory to even a few episodes ago and now
Speaker 1: are almost a season ago now, and now they he
Speaker 1: gets one back to her, which I think it's, you know,
Speaker 1: it's he is the world out godfather that she's always
Speaker 1: needed m absolutely cut to Izzy and Jay's. People still
Speaker 1: don't like Jay's And I remember going through this. I
Speaker 1: remember filming this and it going on for like two
Speaker 1: or three episodes where everyone's just like, Jay sucks. And
Speaker 1: here's the thing, they are right, an older Tree is right.
Speaker 1: He has a line later on where the having the
Speaker 1: conversation about what happened in the City of Bones and
Speaker 1: he's like, what do you want You want me to
Speaker 1: just let you die? And he's like, Yep, that's what
Speaker 1: should have happened. That's what that's our job, that's what
Speaker 1: we do. You should have let me die. So everyone's
Speaker 1: correct were I went off on my own. I tried
Speaker 1: to do it on my own, which is absolutely not
Speaker 1: how it's done. But I do remember, like I can't
Speaker 1: remember if he's in this episode or one of the
Speaker 1: ones coming up, but like cleaning Gun coughs Sword, even
Speaker 1: as an actor, I was just like, this fucking sucks
Speaker 1: is a bullshits. Not cleaning was her. Although it does
Speaker 1: lead to in this which we'll we'll talk about a
Speaker 1: little later on, but it does lead in this Actually
Speaker 1: one of my favorite fight scenes that we got to
Speaker 1: do a lot of my favorite fight scenes that that
Speaker 1: we did sort of different tears, but one of them,
Speaker 1: one of the tears is training fight scenes because they're
Speaker 1: because they're fun, like you're allowed to have fun with them.
Speaker 1: It's not life or death. The whole thing is we're
Speaker 1: sort of playing with each other. And I got to
Speaker 1: do on with Emerald, which is very rare, so that
Speaker 1: was that was really cool this and it's actually one
Speaker 1: of my favorites. The first time we use Carlie sticks
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was. It was good fun. It's just
Speaker 1: a dream of our o a boy. Um, he's chasing
Speaker 1: something in his dream. I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: but he's he's well. And then we have a little
Speaker 1: uh sibling or supposed sibling bonding over Mom's Yeah, just
Speaker 1: a class Mom's corpse. You know, this is a great
Speaker 1: paycheck for Maxim though for sure it's just like most
Speaker 1: of season one, just just lie there. Then season two
Speaker 1: one of you a couple of great episodes and then
Speaker 1: we're going to pay you for an episode to just
Speaker 1: be dead and wrapped up to just take a nap. Yeah, although,
Speaker 1: can I just say how beautiful is the institute in
Speaker 1: the scene, Just the way it's lit with all the
Speaker 1: stained glass windows. Whenever they do present it as an
Speaker 1: actual church, it just it does look good. The colors
Speaker 1: are so beautiful, and I I haven't watched all of
Speaker 1: this episode again yet, so I might be wrong when
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Right at the end, we get like
Speaker 1: a big, big shot, like a big arching shot of
Speaker 1: that room when we're actually doing the sort of funeral sections,
Speaker 1: which which looks pretty amazing. I'm pretty sure, but we'll
Speaker 1: get to that. Start rushing me towards you. It's your faults.
Speaker 1: Never made it. Next, Clary after going to Simon, going
Speaker 1: to Magnus, going to everyone and saying, look, Simon came
Speaker 1: back to life, why not mom? Right, So she does
Speaker 1: a little research because she knows just enough to be dangerous,
Speaker 1: and finds of warlock named Iris Ross who supposedly specializes
Speaker 1: in lachrymancy and bringing things back from the dead. Enough,
Speaker 1: she goes after trust it's the cardigan. It's the cardigan
Speaker 1: and the blouse that match for me, And I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: this is red Red Flag City. It's literally red red flag,
Speaker 1: literally red red flag all over. I'm not about it,
Speaker 1: not about it. Although she was a phenomenal actor, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, she was great. You know. I ran into
Speaker 1: her on the street in Toronto about two years later,
Speaker 1: after after she'd come back again, after everything else had happened.
Speaker 1: And it's always so nice that the Toronto film community
Speaker 1: just bumping into people and be like, hey, what are
Speaker 1: you up to? This is you know, it's such a lovely,
Speaker 1: warm set of folks. It's a it's a cool like
Speaker 1: the niceness of it, the world being so small and
Speaker 1: that like my friend Zane who was who was on
Speaker 1: a partner track, is doing a show up in Toronto
Speaker 1: now and Diane, do you remember props. Diane reached out
Speaker 1: to me and she was like, yeah, I'm doing this
Speaker 1: show and I was like, dude, my buddy Zane is
Speaker 1: on that. Please just give him a big hug. And
Speaker 1: that's like really cool that like cast and crew and
Speaker 1: we're all sort of starting to mingle and get to
Speaker 1: know each other. And that was one of the privileges
Speaker 1: of being on a show for so long, so we
Speaker 1: get to you know, you really get to know people
Speaker 1: and work with the whole plethora of different people from
Speaker 1: different backgrounds and learn about people and yeah, well even
Speaker 1: I I bumped into well, you know, we have a
Speaker 1: couple of buddies on the Boys, and Julianne is working
Speaker 1: on that show and has been for years. And I
Speaker 1: bumped into somebody at UM one of the Emmy's events
Speaker 1: this weekend and he's like, oh, I'm working with Nancy
Speaker 1: on what we do in the Shadows. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you know what, which is just amazing
Speaker 1: for her because you know how artful she is in
Speaker 1: that world for her must be an absolute playground. But
Speaker 1: speaking of playgrounds, we're back to Iris Rouse's world and
Speaker 1: the Dead Crow. I just love how there's there's just
Speaker 1: a step for pleasantness to Irish Rowse, where everything is
Speaker 1: just fine. Oh there's a dead crow, but it's okay.
Speaker 1: I'll just bring it back to life. Everything's fine. Sorry
Speaker 1: about that line was fucking weird. She was like, oh,
Speaker 1: poor thing died this morning, so you just left it there.
Speaker 1: You just left it. You just leave it on your lawn.
Speaker 1: You didn't do anything to take care of Like what.
Speaker 1: There's something very odd about that to me, which I
Speaker 1: never noticed until rewatching and I was like, that's weird.
Speaker 1: That's a weird thing too. That's another red flag. Let's
Speaker 1: count how many red flags Iris gives off before she
Speaker 1: actually turned into a typer. There's at least two. And
Speaker 1: then she's a weird doctor who lives in a you know,
Speaker 1: has three different floors. And then she has a weird,
Speaker 1: creepy child who doesn't speak. It's very adorable. We love Madzie,
Speaker 1: but at this point I didn't. I didn't realize because
Speaker 1: Mariana was always so adorable. I didn't realize how the
Speaker 1: camera angle and the way that they lit her. She
Speaker 1: just it's it's very the shining, but there's only one
Speaker 1: of her. There's also I think for me, there's something
Speaker 1: about like on screen seeing a child in a window,
Speaker 1: for when the character is outside, kind of seeing anyone
Speaker 1: in a window, just like looking down at you is
Speaker 1: fucking weird, Like it's weird and uncomfortable, And that I
Speaker 1: think is how we got introduced to Madie. So poor girl.
Speaker 1: She was set up for sort of failure until later on.
Speaker 1: Also another red flag, Hey do you want to do
Speaker 1: I need some of your mom's hair or fingernails or something,
Speaker 1: some sort of genetic material that I don't know if
Speaker 1: I call that a red flag, I think that's okay,
Speaker 1: because she did she did use a feather of the
Speaker 1: crow to bring the crow back, and we do fairly often.
Speaker 1: Maybe we haven't done it yet, but like having some
Speaker 1: part of the person or the creature, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: to bring them back, that kind of makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: I'm not on her side, don't get me wrong. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I don't know if I buy that as
Speaker 1: a red flag just yet. That's fair, that's fair. Well,
Speaker 1: now we're on to our dear friend Lewis walking down
Speaker 1: the street leaving Yeah Luke a voicemail because Luke has
Speaker 1: disappeared and we're all very worried about him, because, you know,
Speaker 1: werewolves and grief. I feel like werewolves and intense emotions
Speaker 1: don't always mix. Well, no, not in Chase's experience anyway,
Speaker 1: But we'll find up more about that later. And there's
Speaker 1: Mama Lewis again, who's made dinner. Yeah, it's this. It's
Speaker 1: so difficult for me to watch this, And if anyone
Speaker 1: is watching this for the first time, maybe just plug
Speaker 1: your ears for a second. But this, every every time
Speaker 1: I see the two of them together, it reminds me
Speaker 1: of one scene that's coming and just breaks my heart,
Speaker 1: breaks my every single time. But that's for a late dight.
Speaker 1: It is ah well, speaking of things that we've mentioned
Speaker 1: and things that we thought were happening later. Now we're
Speaker 1: back in the office with Jason alder Tree to that
Speaker 1: scene you were mentioning where he says Hey should have died, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you should have, alder Tree, Maybe you
Speaker 1: should have. Maybe it would have been easier if you
Speaker 1: could just let him die, But then we would have
Speaker 1: had less next Sega, and that would have been bad.
Speaker 1: That would have been bad. I do love working with
Speaker 1: Nick and watching all of this back, I remember how
Speaker 1: cool it is working with him. He just has this
Speaker 1: presence that is like confounding, like it entirely encapsulates you
Speaker 1: as audience members as well. Now, which is one of
Speaker 1: the other nice things about being able to do this.
Speaker 1: I get to watch this sort of purely as an
Speaker 1: audience member, especially because these were so long ago. There
Speaker 1: are like whole episodes that I do not remember filming
Speaker 1: for sure, jumped back and forth and whether they were
Speaker 1: like whole like the beginning of this episode was one
Speaker 1: of them where I was like, I sort of vaguely
Speaker 1: remember this and I remember reading it, but I don't
Speaker 1: really remember being there and filming it. I don't remember
Speaker 1: exploring this with Matt. I remember having the conversations about
Speaker 1: the scene, but I don't remember walking on. I don't
Speaker 1: remember someone calling action, which is a little odd. It's
Speaker 1: an odd sensation to have. Can we talk about the
Speaker 1: shot of Matt Dario in the balcony when he's just
Speaker 1: there and Magnus shows up, and it's just he's got
Speaker 1: that kind of like lazy stare of like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: just here, I done the area. He's heartbroken to Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's so sad. This is like the first time he's
Speaker 1: ever really made his foko. This is his first like
Speaker 1: military faux part within the shadow Hunters. Probably is, I
Speaker 1: would imagine, right, Like he's always been the straight shooter,
Speaker 1: um and Jase has always been the yeah nice because
Speaker 1: of the Arrows, um and Jason has always been the
Speaker 1: one who's like, no, let's do it this way. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I think since he was a kid. Wow, he still
Speaker 1: has the blood on his hands, Alextell has Johnson's blood
Speaker 1: on his hands. No, no, no, that's that's from the beginning,
Speaker 1: from the Arrows. Yeah, so he's sort of he's he's
Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing, like so I saw this thing
Speaker 1: on House the other day, but a young girl who
Speaker 1: couldn't feel pain, And I haven't really ever watched House,
Speaker 1: but I think it's brilliant and I'm kind of hooked.
Speaker 1: And this young girl couldn't feel any pain and as
Speaker 1: a result didn't have She was sort of neutral all
Speaker 1: the time because she didn't. She couldn't understand and the
Speaker 1: disparity between happiness and sadness because both sort of fairly
Speaker 1: physical feelings. As much as you don't necessarily see happiness
Speaker 1: as a as a physical representation in your body, is
Speaker 1: raises your own doorphins, and you physically feel different. And
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting thing with shadow on is
Speaker 1: because we don't experience pain for very often. We do,
Speaker 1: but it's very quick to sort of fix for the
Speaker 1: most part. And I think he's almost like reveling in
Speaker 1: the parallel of not reveling, that's the wrong word, but
Speaker 1: sort of embracing the parallel of like this is emotional
Speaker 1: pain and this is physical pain, and these two things
Speaker 1: are sort of colliding in me right now, and so
Speaker 1: I think that's why he hasn't sort of fixed himself,
Speaker 1: which is again, like it's such a heartbreaking, dangerous thing
Speaker 1: to try and you know, set up on your own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he has people around him. You care about him, and
Speaker 1: that's what matters. He's going to get better. It's all
Speaker 1: going to get better, buddy. He's going to slowly but
Speaker 1: surely realize that people care about him and he's going
Speaker 1: to have to let them in that nationally. But now
Speaker 1: we have a Miss Clary sneaking in with a pair
Speaker 1: of scissors to a sea to steal some hair. Which
Speaker 1: this would have been such an easy lie for Clary
Speaker 1: to have made, just like my mom kept your hair
Speaker 1: as a baby. Like I just want to little keepsake,
Speaker 1: I want to make a Jocelyn box. And she's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the truth, and Chase is immediately like,
Speaker 1: this is, by the way, the first piece of foreshadowing
Speaker 1: for what happens at the end of the season. Do
Speaker 1: not bring dead people back. It doesn't work, never works,
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Simon's about to funk up his ship. That
Speaker 1: was our first time. You're about to try and do this.
Speaker 1: Doesn't work. It's going to happen a third time and
Speaker 1: maybe even a fourth time. Is that right? Don't do it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it happens like four or five times you
Speaker 1: bring people back from the dead, and yeah, a lot,
Speaker 1: and it's always bad, always, always, always always. It's it's
Speaker 1: like a universally understood rule in fantasy and supernatural stories.
Speaker 1: Don't bring people back from the debt. Never works, it
Speaker 1: never turns out well, always had bad consequences. But we
Speaker 1: do it time and time again. And you think Clary
Speaker 1: would learn, but unfortunately she's a bit spoiled because the
Speaker 1: only person she's brought back so far is Simon. And
Speaker 1: you know, it was hard for a minute, but she
Speaker 1: seems to be doing all right. For now, Yeah, for now,
Speaker 1: for now. Now, speaking of a little mini intervention, I
Speaker 1: love Alberto so much, these little things he adds in
Speaker 1: as he gets more and more vamp skills of just
Speaker 1: like jumping over the broken desk piece. Is this little
Speaker 1: it's again, it's that little Peter Parker stuff where he's
Speaker 1: starting to have fun being a vampire and it's so
Speaker 1: characterful and it's so Alberto and I just Chef's kiss,
Speaker 1: Chef's kiss. Great stuff. We should have him back on.
Speaker 1: Did we have him on? We had him on for
Speaker 1: the turning episode, right, Yeah, we need him on for
Speaker 1: season two, I feel like we're going to have to,
Speaker 1: you know, keep bringing people back because there's so much
Speaker 1: to talk a out with all these characters. If people
Speaker 1: are available and willing and you know, y'all are willing
Speaker 1: to listen to us, Reminisce. Reminisce also his sister who
Speaker 1: played his sister. She's great. Remember had zero scenes with
Speaker 1: Holly Holly Holly Debu. Wow, good memory. Well done. I
Speaker 1: don't know how I got very well done. I do
Speaker 1: love this because whereas Clary just goes, yeah, I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell the truth and it's it's, you know, this
Speaker 1: my hair for not a hair doll, but for you know,
Speaker 1: my spell to bring mom back, he's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: fake blood. He just chooses to come up with a
Speaker 1: really it's basically it's fake blood that somebody told me
Speaker 1: doing an asboard thing on stage for my band. If
Speaker 1: it was anywhere but New York City, that sort of
Speaker 1: a story just wouldn't work, being like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: bought fake blood out of a thermosophic guy on the street,
Speaker 1: you know, and he lied. It works in New York
Speaker 1: all the time, every every other street corner, basically all
Speaker 1: of the odd numbers, all of the odd avenues the
Speaker 1: whole way down. I get offered fate blood and the
Speaker 1: thermost every time on that. And here we have training
Speaker 1: scene with Izzy, which is fantastic. It was such a
Speaker 1: fun scene to do because it's so and like we've
Speaker 1: gotten to that place. I think as actors as this
Speaker 1: sort of this troope, this group of people where we
Speaker 1: do really trust each other and we work with each other,
Speaker 1: and you know, we have those relationships sort of semi cemented,
Speaker 1: so to be able to just play around is really
Speaker 1: good fun. I actually think this is also one of
Speaker 1: the few fight scenes where I came out entirely unscathed,
Speaker 1: like not even a bump, nothing, that's pretty sure, like
Speaker 1: not not anything, which is interesting because the next time
Speaker 1: I use these Carlie sticks with Alberto and he broke
Speaker 1: my well, you know, you can't win them all, cannot
Speaker 1: be gold. One thing I love about these late scenes,
Speaker 1: and you and I always did this in our training
Speaker 1: scenes as well. You find so many moments, you know,
Speaker 1: between the fights between that was always my favorite pieces.
Speaker 1: When you finally have the fight and you learn it
Speaker 1: and you have the dialogue, you know your lines and
Speaker 1: you can put the two together and find the rhythm
Speaker 1: of the words with the fight and those little character
Speaker 1: full moments in between where you have the fun like
Speaker 1: you were talking about. And again, all of these fights
Speaker 1: scenes have a purpose, you know, and and this one
Speaker 1: is to have Jas be a really good brother and go, hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, why don't you get checked out because
Speaker 1: there's a cool thing coming your way just Y. However,
Speaker 1: it's sort of backfires leading to in my opinion later on,
Speaker 1: but some of Emron's best acting that I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable what she does with this whole storyline. But
Speaker 1: again we'll get into that later one absolutely, but I
Speaker 1: do I do love the fact that, you know, because
Speaker 1: Jason's benched at the Institute and has his ear to
Speaker 1: the ground and knows all the institute gus, he's able
Speaker 1: to give her a little inside scoop. I love that
Speaker 1: shot of Nick just from when he's framed. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that set was amazing, It really was. And this is
Speaker 1: a book wink as well, because we do have the
Speaker 1: infan in the books. It's never used in this way
Speaker 1: in the books, but we know, you know, those that
Speaker 1: have read the Immortal Instruments would know that infant is
Speaker 1: a very dangerous, very addictive drug, and I believe it's
Speaker 1: a vampire drag. If I'm not mistaken, it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's the I mean, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: correct me or tweet me or whatever if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: But isn't it it's what's released by the fangs. These
Speaker 1: are fangs. Isn't it what's released by the fangs? I
Speaker 1: think it's the Yeah, exactly, it's the the euphoric. What
Speaker 1: would you call it? I guess venom. I guess that's
Speaker 1: released venom. Yeah, I guess it's whatever whatever calms its
Speaker 1: victims so they don't you know, it's like an anesthetic,
Speaker 1: like a naturally occurring anesthetic. I guess. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of ribbon. We have a lot
Speaker 1: of ribbon in the institute. Is it's occurring to me
Speaker 1: now that every time there's like a lock of hair
Speaker 1: or something like a note or something that's always got
Speaker 1: ribbon on it. And it like the concept of there's
Speaker 1: like a shadow Hunter Arts and crafts area. There's like
Speaker 1: a room like where you go and get your paints
Speaker 1: so you don't need to go out and like your
Speaker 1: little mannequin the one that everyone ended up signing, like
Speaker 1: that's just go and grab them from like you do
Speaker 1: a room and there's the little arts and crafts covered
Speaker 1: and I need four to b pencils. I mean, just
Speaker 1: opens up here, okay, cool and lock it back up
Speaker 1: and go away. Well, you know, there's something of the
Speaker 1: Gothic archaic nature that you know, the shadow Hunters world
Speaker 1: exists in. But you know, we have a lot of
Speaker 1: the law is hard, but it's the law, but we
Speaker 1: also have ribbon. That's rule number two. I'm sure that's
Speaker 1: rule number two. Rule number one of being a shadow
Speaker 1: un to the lawers hard, but it is a law
Speaker 1: or emotions, power, judgment or whatever it is, whichever one
Speaker 1: of those two are. And then number three is you
Speaker 1: can never have enough ribbon. I'm like, sure, sure, that's
Speaker 1: rule three of being a shadow Unter. Oh, it's got
Speaker 1: to be definitely. Hey, And we finally have Clary's new
Speaker 1: bedspread so little. I don't know if I've talked about
Speaker 1: this in the show, but at the beginning of season
Speaker 1: two and Clary friendly got a bedroom, they had this
Speaker 1: beautiful gold satin be spread I don't know if you remember,
Speaker 1: which was pretty standard for for the shadow Hunters at
Speaker 1: this point in the season, Jason was not spending very
Speaker 1: much time in Clary's bedroom, which I think that's true,
Speaker 1: that's true. But every time, like Alberto and I are
Speaker 1: Emrod and I would sit on the bed to have
Speaker 1: a scene, we would slip off because it was so
Speaker 1: slick and shiny. And I sort of turned to Matt
Speaker 1: Hastings at that point and I said, hey, um, can
Speaker 1: we get a new bedspread for Clary? Because also I
Speaker 1: feel like she would have made herself at home at
Speaker 1: this point, and maybe you gotten something that was a
Speaker 1: bit more her and a bit more Brooklyn Bohemian, a
Speaker 1: little bit less shadow Hunter grand and also something that
Speaker 1: we're not going to slip off in the middle of
Speaker 1: Thimes and have to do a wall sit on the
Speaker 1: bed while we're trying to talk. And they did. They
Speaker 1: got this beautiful, beautiful quilted bedspread that's still matched. But
Speaker 1: oh look there's ribbon again. Of course, of course I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. And then Alex what is coming up? I mean,
Speaker 1: we need to talk about the Alex Sean first, he's
Speaker 1: trying to make amends. Bless him. He knows this is wrong,
Speaker 1: he knows this is a bad idea, but he just
Speaker 1: wants to fix things however he can, and this is
Speaker 1: his avenue to fixing it. Bless his heart. This brings
Speaker 1: us to maybe one of my favorite scenes in the
Speaker 1: show comedy Wise. There is one look that Matt giggs
Speaker 1: and it's my fucking favorite thing. It's probably the thing
Speaker 1: that's been like memed the most from our show is
Speaker 1: just this look, and I think it is so brilliant. Bravo,
Speaker 1: Matthew Didaria. I'm gonna watch it right now. I do.
Speaker 1: But I do love this scene because they're both hurting
Speaker 1: and they're both in pain, but they can't really talk
Speaker 1: about it yet, and in the very it's it's such.
Speaker 1: It's so indicative of Alec and Clary's friendship. As I'm
Speaker 1: just going, look, I know you're feeling something, and I'm
Speaker 1: feeling something, but let's not talk about it, but just
Speaker 1: help me. Just shut up and help me, and that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's what happens. So they go to not
Speaker 1: laughing at you. I was. I just watched the look.
Speaker 1: I know. They go to Iris Rouse and she's like,
Speaker 1: it's such. It's such grumpy Alec cat or grumpy Cat
Speaker 1: Alec and it's my favorite in the world. But she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: is this your boyfriend. He's like, no, not her. Hilarious.
Speaker 1: Good job, Matt, Good job, Matt. Indeed, our lives were
Speaker 1: so strange at this point in the show because we were,
Speaker 1: you know, the show had come out, and we were
Speaker 1: live tweeting and things were happening and press and all that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, but this is about
Speaker 1: the time that they were starting to organize the Brazil
Speaker 1: convention that we were going to go to in December
Speaker 1: when this was shot. And Iris Ross's house was a
Speaker 1: physical house inside and outside, practical set in downtown Toronto,
Speaker 1: and I had to go get a passport picture taken
Speaker 1: for my Brazil visa, and I did so on a
Speaker 1: turnaround on camera. I jumped in one of my family
Speaker 1: transpo bands and they took me to write aid or
Speaker 1: a you know, London drug or it would have been
Speaker 1: easier to just have someone with a camera and just
Speaker 1: do it, bring someone to set together. Done probably, But
Speaker 1: if you look very closely at my visa for you know,
Speaker 1: the Brazilian work permit that we got, you can see
Speaker 1: the ruins on my neck and it's in this wardrobe
Speaker 1: every time. That's really good. That is funny, good stuff.
Speaker 1: And there's Madzie again, and I love the way that
Speaker 1: Matt talks to her as well. He just turns from
Speaker 1: grumpy cat Alec into Matt big old soft. It's a
Speaker 1: torrible and here we have Clary goes to mime school.
Speaker 1: We're very quickly. I remember asking them how they were
Speaker 1: going to do this, because you know, that comes a
Speaker 1: point where Claire gets trapped in a warlock cage as
Speaker 1: it were, but obviously we don't see the cage because
Speaker 1: it's magic. Remember asking them, you know, is there going
Speaker 1: to be a physical thing that is on set or
Speaker 1: markings that I have to do? And they go, no,
Speaker 1: just you know, mom in a box. I'm trapped in
Speaker 1: a box. Let me out. And yeah. It remarkably harder
Speaker 1: than p for think, especially when your emotions are going
Speaker 1: to like batter at something that isn't there and then
Speaker 1: hit it at the exact same point with your other hand,
Speaker 1: back and forth and back and forth, is like wild.
Speaker 1: It's a wild thing to have to try and control
Speaker 1: your body into doing so well done, But more on
Speaker 1: that later, um, but thank you, cut too. Back to
Speaker 1: Mama Lewis and Simon, And this is one of those
Speaker 1: scenes where I remember watching this as an audience member
Speaker 1: and and it's your heart is on the you know,
Speaker 1: beating out of your chest because he's so close to
Speaker 1: telling her, so close, and he tells her. He tells her,
Speaker 1: he goes mom and a vampire and she looks at
Speaker 1: him and he's just waiting and waiting and waiting, and
Speaker 1: then she laughs and goes, oh my god, Simon, what
Speaker 1: a prank. What it's like you sleep in a coffin?
Speaker 1: And I think my favorite line in the whole scene
Speaker 1: as well, it's a canoe but keeps talking. But it's
Speaker 1: it's as as heartwarming as it is, it's also extremely
Speaker 1: heartbreaking because you have you know, these He's telling her
Speaker 1: the truth, and yet she just doesn't see it. And
Speaker 1: especially because it's so good, it's such a relief for
Speaker 1: him to get this out, to actually tell, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the most important women in his life this
Speaker 1: this news, you know, everything that he's transitioned through to
Speaker 1: get to this place. And then it's seen as a joke,
Speaker 1: which is you're right, it said nothing, but it's nothing
Speaker 1: but heartbreaking. Bless his heart. And yet there is more
Speaker 1: to the story. Yeah, and she just goes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay, honey, Oh, dear God, listen, care of you,
Speaker 1: bless What would you do? What would you do? And
Speaker 1: now we're back and we see Iris's spell taking place,
Speaker 1: We see Clary getting Now Clary's trapped in a box.
Speaker 1: The crow comes back. Now Clary's trapped in a box.
Speaker 1: How do we do that with that bird? How did
Speaker 1: you do that? Is that CG I bird? That's a
Speaker 1: CG bird, even outside the window, even outside the window,
Speaker 1: that is a CGI bird. We did not have live
Speaker 1: crow on that set, but no, it looked like a
Speaker 1: puppet almost. I was like, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: we did have the the fake one that was dead
Speaker 1: on the ground. And I don't think the only thing
Speaker 1: they would have done is thrown in at the window.
Speaker 1: And I really don't think they would have done that's fair.
Speaker 1: But now as we see Alec creeping around this brown
Speaker 1: stone and Clary in her little trapped box, we find
Speaker 1: out what Iris Ross is really up to, which is
Speaker 1: trying to create a stronger warlock army of half demon,
Speaker 1: half shadow hunter warlock babies. Because we know that warlocks
Speaker 1: are a product of demon in human blood. But if,
Speaker 1: as Valentine was experimenting with blood, you find out that,
Speaker 1: you know, creatures that are blended of different supernatural bloodlines
Speaker 1: often have qualities that you might not expect and might
Speaker 1: be more powerful where they might die, well, they might die.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess the mix would be like half demon,
Speaker 1: a quarter human, a quarter angel blood. She's after that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is pretty lethal. That's too many mixes of blood,
Speaker 1: I think, I think even too. I'm again I'm going
Speaker 1: to say this as a disclaimer, and I think I
Speaker 1: said a lot. I'm not a doctor, but I'm like, sure,
Speaker 1: the whole thing with blood types is they need to
Speaker 1: be it needs to be the same. Yeah, it's there's
Speaker 1: there's certainly a lack of research and you know, regard
Speaker 1: for health and survival in this context. Agreed and Alex
Speaker 1: facing off with pregnantly m H. Now Jace has figured
Speaker 1: out what's going on where Clary is. We're in the box.
Speaker 1: The one thing you can't do with c G I
Speaker 1: in the box is put pressure. You know, when you like,
Speaker 1: I don't have a piece of glass. Here's there's nothing
Speaker 1: I can do this with. You know, when you when
Speaker 1: you compress your hand. You just can't do it. There's
Speaker 1: no way you get like your hand, your skin changes
Speaker 1: color a little bit, and things like that. Yeah that's
Speaker 1: the one. Yeah, what a shame. And now we find
Speaker 1: out as Alec interviews the lady, you know, more about
Speaker 1: what she's pregnant. Then you get to Yeah, we get
Speaker 1: to one of my favorite scenes in the episode, which
Speaker 1: was also probably one of the creepiest scenes to shoot
Speaker 1: that I ever did in in the show, because we
Speaker 1: had an incredible So we get to see Iris Rouse's
Speaker 1: personal demon come out of his cage and face off
Speaker 1: with Clary, And we had an incredible artist who was
Speaker 1: a contortionist come on set to play this demon, and
Speaker 1: he came back to the show several times. And the
Speaker 1: things that this man could do with his body, we're
Speaker 1: mind bubbling. I think, wasn't he the guy who he
Speaker 1: was on? Like it might even have been Vine back
Speaker 1: then or like Instagram or something, and he got was
Speaker 1: it that guy who who got like renowned for doing
Speaker 1: this like super creepy backwards walk there? I never I
Speaker 1: never met him. I was never there on that day,
Speaker 1: which is strange because I'm in this scene, so I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how that happened. But I think we
Speaker 1: shot it on two different days, and I think you
Speaker 1: might have been you might have been training for the
Speaker 1: fight scene and then come and just demand I think
Speaker 1: that's what it was. Maybe, Yeah, but he is incredible.
Speaker 1: The way he moves is is truly unbelievable. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then we have Nana No as mad He runs out
Speaker 1: after Alec hasman smashed around. I do notice that both
Speaker 1: Izzie and I had time to change our clothes, both
Speaker 1: in training gear, and we were like, just hold up,
Speaker 1: We'll just let me throw on a new jacket and
Speaker 1: then get on out there. Yeah, what are you talking about? Yeah? Wow,
Speaker 1: Alec really does take a beating. Yeah, he does. And
Speaker 1: then little Madzie runs out and is he is. He
Speaker 1: tries to save Madzie and then Iris of course, as
Speaker 1: many warlocks to escapes within a portal, but you know,
Speaker 1: I may not may or may not be the last
Speaker 1: we see of Iris, Routes and Madzie. But more on
Speaker 1: that later. More on that later, to be continued. Cut
Speaker 1: back to Clary dealing with creepy demon man. She tries
Speaker 1: tries to hit him with the chain, but that doesn't work. Clary,
Speaker 1: it's a demon. Come on it does it? It kind
Speaker 1: of freaks him out a little. I don't know what
Speaker 1: is he wearing? What is that? It's like demon latex thing.
Speaker 1: It is horrific. It's a skin. It's scary. No, I'm
Speaker 1: aware that it's the demon scamming in real life. Do
Speaker 1: you remember the suit that Hubert wore in season one
Speaker 1: when he had that sort of like latex. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was the same thing, but then they covered him in
Speaker 1: like goog as well. It was it was. And then
Speaker 1: we have Clary creating a run that is sunlight run
Speaker 1: that becomes one of her special gifts and kills the demon.
Speaker 1: Channels sunlight through her hand and obliterates the neon. Bye demon,
Speaker 1: Bye bye demon. But thinking back to some advice that
Speaker 1: she's been given of you know, use your skills, use
Speaker 1: what you've learned, what you know. Yeah, oh, and then
Speaker 1: we also learned I do love this because they wanted
Speaker 1: to put this room on the palm of my hand,
Speaker 1: but you know, logistically speaking, having a ruin on the
Speaker 1: palblem in my hand all the time would have been impossible.
Speaker 1: So they added that little couplet of lines going wait
Speaker 1: where'd the run go? Oh? It disappeared. Wow, what a
Speaker 1: new what a cool new thing. That's fortunate because apart
Speaker 1: from anything else, like by the end of the series,
Speaker 1: you would run out of space for just all of
Speaker 1: these new runs that you can just make up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: having it on the palm of your hands, like even
Speaker 1: the ones on our next used to dissipate. You remember,
Speaker 1: by like end of season three, we would be talking
Speaker 1: about what kind of shirt we were wearing, and then
Speaker 1: the ruins would be cut off at the market. So
Speaker 1: they wouldn't just rub away the whole way up. They didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean as much as we tried, like you could,
Speaker 1: you just couldn't keep them on. Um, what did I
Speaker 1: just see? Simon's eating a rat? A Mom, I'm getting
Speaker 1: a rat as Mom sees it. And then we have
Speaker 1: the first or another iteration of the infan, which is
Speaker 1: a little bit of foreshadowing of where we're going with that.
Speaker 1: We get to see the first bit of you know,
Speaker 1: what could happen to Isabelle and this precipice that she's on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we don't really know what's happening. Wait wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait do we now not go back to iris Rouse's
Speaker 1: house in this episode? No, no, so that we did
Speaker 1: such a piss pour scene and that a job in
Speaker 1: that one scene that I'm about to talk about cause
Speaker 1: we're finally allowed to talk about it, that they cut
Speaker 1: the whole scene. I just thought it was in the
Speaker 1: show and they just cut around as being useless. No,
Speaker 1: they couldn't use the scene, and they released the blooper
Speaker 1: in the found But okay, so before we get let's
Speaker 1: talk about this before you depart from Iris raps Home
Speaker 1: and before we deal with this funeral and the sad
Speaker 1: ending in the episode, there was a scene that took
Speaker 1: place because the pregnant nurse gave birth to her Warlock baby,
Speaker 1: which it's Warlock mark was supposed to because of the
Speaker 1: only professional on set except for the actual baby was
Speaker 1: that nurse. The only professional that day. The rest of
Speaker 1: us were completely fucking useless. Actually, Harry did a very
Speaker 1: good job also, but Harry also broke quite a bit
Speaker 1: with the rest of us. But he might have been
Speaker 1: the last one to break. But I swear so they
Speaker 1: we had For those of you who don't know, we
Speaker 1: had a newborn baby on set. I mean this baby
Speaker 1: was what domb two or three, four weeks old? Maybe? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was I think six weeks I think it was
Speaker 1: six weeks old something like that. So we all had
Speaker 1: to be really quiet and really good because obviously it's
Speaker 1: a little baby and a film sets the scary place
Speaker 1: for brand new baby, and they wrapped this baby up
Speaker 1: and they put the goats feet in the like, al right, guys,
Speaker 1: we have twenty minutes to shoot this scene. Then the
Speaker 1: baby has to be done for the day. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get it done, gonna be great. These dan goats feet
Speaker 1: kept falling out of the swaddling and we could not
Speaker 1: handle it. It was the third I can still remember
Speaker 1: the third. So we're like mid scene and there's already
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on all of us to be like,
Speaker 1: we have to be quiet because it's a baby, Like
Speaker 1: we don't want to wake the baby, don't want to
Speaker 1: upset the baby. The last thing. We wanted to traumatize
Speaker 1: the baby. And the mother's there as well, and she's
Speaker 1: doing an amazing job, you know. Finally just got the
Speaker 1: baby to sleep and we can shoot the film. The
Speaker 1: baby to the actress and just we're sort of mid
Speaker 1: scene and we just see this and outdrops the baby's
Speaker 1: goat feet. This Warlock mark their goat feet from the
Speaker 1: squaddle and I we all sort of do the same,
Speaker 1: like oh no, oh no. And the first person I
Speaker 1: saw was Matt, who was off camera and over in
Speaker 1: the corner, just with like tears streaking down his face.
Speaker 1: Because none of us could audibly laugh, We weren't allowed
Speaker 1: to audibly laugh, so we kept like a modicum of
Speaker 1: control to keep all of these laughs fully internal. We
Speaker 1: all gave ourselves sucking hernias trying to like this this
Speaker 1: raucious laughter in toe and we just couldn't do it
Speaker 1: um And eventually, obviously, eventually that scene was just completely
Speaker 1: useless and they had to cut it all out. So
Speaker 1: apologies to the future star that is that baby that
Speaker 1: your first ever TV scene was cut. It is our fault,
Speaker 1: but it will be forever memorialized as the best blooper
Speaker 1: that shadow Hunter has ever had. Unbelievable, completely unbelievable, Like
Speaker 1: it's probably the hardest I've ever laughed, not even on set,
Speaker 1: like in my life, It's probably the hardest I've ever
Speaker 1: laughed whilst also not laughing full tears. My face is
Speaker 1: bright red, like M actually does. I feel like m
Speaker 1: does quite a good job and not laughing I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I have to rewatch the blooper, but it was ah no,
Speaker 1: I didn't see it for a while, and I just
Speaker 1: remember catching because I was closest to Alberto. I remember
Speaker 1: catching Alberto smiling, and then I looked at you and
Speaker 1: you were dying. And then Matt was crying, and then
Speaker 1: Harry broke and I was trying to and then I
Speaker 1: saw the feet on the floor and I just I
Speaker 1: lost it. None of us could keep it together at
Speaker 1: that point, but hey, I got through it. We didn't
Speaker 1: disturb the baby. I think she was trying to do
Speaker 1: it and yeah, what was going because she couldn't see it.
Speaker 1: That's right, she couldn't physically see it over the baby.
Speaker 1: But she did do Actually, with four five hysterically laughing
Speaker 1: actors or completely out of character, she did do an
Speaker 1: incredible job because she was just she kept that like
Speaker 1: stoic euphoria of I've just given birth to this beautiful creature.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. She kept that on the entire time.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe in in a hope that like, maybe
Speaker 1: they'll catch some of this and we can continue on whatever.
Speaker 1: Just sort of what you think when you're breaking, you're
Speaker 1: like the first We'll just keep going as much as
Speaker 1: you can, So I apologize to you as well because
Speaker 1: we ruined that scene. That's on us. However, as we
Speaker 1: move on, we have one of the most somber scenes
Speaker 1: in our show, which it's so interesting to me because
Speaker 1: it felt so normal in the decks, we were so
Speaker 1: in the world, but now watching it, shadow Hunters were
Speaker 1: white to funerals. That's their their color of morning is white,
Speaker 1: and it's so jarring to see an entire room of
Speaker 1: people dressed entirely in white in a scene of this nature.
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot of trouble for this once. Do
Speaker 1: you remember this? When I did, you actually ended up
Speaker 1: not being me. It ended up I think it was
Speaker 1: social media. The social media department posted a photo of
Speaker 1: me in a fitting in white, which ended up not
Speaker 1: being the costume that was used. But I got pulled
Speaker 1: aside like midway through the day and they were like,
Speaker 1: you need to take this down right now, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I will, but I'm pretty sure it's on
Speaker 1: the shadow Hunters Instagram. I think that's where it's come from.
Speaker 1: And then it made its way into mine as well,
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, we didn't know it was you.
Speaker 1: We just assumed that it was you who had made
Speaker 1: the mistake. And I'm like, you're right, that's the correct
Speaker 1: thing to assume. But on this occasion it was not
Speaker 1: my fault. But there you go. Yes, this even like
Speaker 1: the Silent Brothers in in white Robes is You're right,
Speaker 1: it is quite It is quite jarring. And there are
Speaker 1: a lot of shots. I'm right, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of shots from down here looking up and we get
Speaker 1: to see the real scale of this room, which is
Speaker 1: which is really something pull this Remember what that means?
Speaker 1: We are but dustin shadows, isn't it, Halen Farewell? That's
Speaker 1: how the actual valet is Halen Fairwell. Oh that's Halen Farewell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, we are dustin shadows. Very good. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had to check it in. Very good. Didn't take Latin
Speaker 1: in high school for nothing? Did you really take Latin
Speaker 1: in high school? Yeah? That was the old nerd. I
Speaker 1: took Latin in high school, did it hasn't hasn't done
Speaker 1: me much good since accepted shadow Hunters. But hey, it's
Speaker 1: a dead language. I literally go to uses it except
Speaker 1: for us. Were the rand or if you're a doctor,
Speaker 1: apparently we still name things in Latin for no reason. Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 1: I forgot about the arms raising. Oh it's so eerie
Speaker 1: with the alder tree and the and the shadow silent
Speaker 1: brothers raising their arms and then these sort of magical
Speaker 1: tendrils of soul I guess returning. Yeah, I guess I
Speaker 1: was just thinking the same thing, like it's soul right leaving.
Speaker 1: I never noticed that before that the rose window like
Speaker 1: opens up into this the night sky. Oh and then
Speaker 1: as we panned down off the glittering soul dust in
Speaker 1: the night sky, we panned down to a very naked
Speaker 1: Isaiah Mustafa in the leaves, very gingerly placed, very gingerly placed. Oh, man,
Speaker 1: and this you know that this was cold? Well yeah,
Speaker 1: because we shot it in September, and September in Toronto
Speaker 1: is not warm. That's rough. Yeah, it's rough, really rough.
Speaker 1: And that, my dear, brings us to the end of
Speaker 1: the episode. It does. It brings us to the end
Speaker 1: of this episode. Next up we have we meet the
Speaker 1: Iron Sisters, who I love so much, Lisa Barry bring
Speaker 1: it on and Lisa Berry. What else? Have we got
Speaker 1: some other stuff going on location for the Iron Sisters?
Speaker 1: What m no, no, I'm going to give stuff away. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't get any of the weight on. No spoilers. Sorry, sorry, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you again y'all for joining us for one of
Speaker 1: the more amber episodes. But hopefully we still had some
Speaker 1: fun and some goat's feet laughs and uh yeah, make
Speaker 1: sure you check out the blue episode. Really is something
Speaker 1: I think. Unfortunately it's mostly my face. I think it
Speaker 1: was my coverage when this happens, so it's largely my face. Um,
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine. I explained the story now. It
Speaker 1: wasn't this one, this one instance was not entirely my fault.
Speaker 1: It was all of us, a lot of the others
Speaker 1: were it was. It was. It was pretty unilateral for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh man. Well, um, it's good to see you as always,
Speaker 1: lovely to relive these episodes with you, and I'll see
Speaker 1: you again next time. By angels By. Everybody Returned to
Speaker 1: the Shadows is hosted and executive produced by Me, Katherine
Speaker 1: McNamara and Dominic Sherwood. Our executive producer is Lingley. Our
Speaker 1: senior producers are Liz Hayes and Diego Tapia. Our producers
Speaker 1: are Hannah Harris and Kristin Vermilia. And our intern is
Speaker 1: sam Cats. Original music by Alex Kinsey and performed by
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