WEBVTT - All Access: Hicks talks defensive potential 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.400 The following is a presentation of the Chicago Bears Network 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:08.440 and Chicago Bears dot Com. Download the Chicago Bears official 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.440 mobile app for up to the minute Bears content every 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:16.080 day and now welcome to Bears All Access. You're all 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:20.560 Access passing to Chicago Bears football. Bears All Access is 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:25.560 brought to you by IGS Energy and sponsored by CDW, Miller, 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:30.680 Lite and Hulu and for PANC Studios Here at Hatius 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.960 saw a great Thursday night to all of you, Thanks 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.800 for listening. We're doing our first live show of the 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.640 regular season here at hat Us on our PANC Studios. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.760 Bears fans are here in attendance. Tom's been entertaining. He's 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:44.880 been like the warm up, warm up guy for the show. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.600 You've done a nice job, jokes and everything. Yeah, yeah, No, 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.520 I think you're Johnny Carson. I really do. Yeah, there's 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.560 only one. How do you do? Everybody? Not bad? All right? 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.279 We got Bears fans here and FedEx folks here, so 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.200 we're gonna be awaiting the arrival of Big Bad Achim Hicks. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:04.800 He'll be joining the program. Were brought to you by 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.679 IGS Energy. Pause Ranger Engineer Adam Stidzinski. Our producer at 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.360 our Score Studios and good to have you. And while 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.080 we await a key, let's talk news of the day, 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:18.720 News of the day. Practice today. Still no a Kilil Mack, 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:23.360 no Alan Robinson. We still do not see any definitive 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.640 information on Kyle Long and what his injury to his 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.319 right foot is actually going to entail in terms of 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.280 time away. And then a new addition to the injury report, 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.040 no practice today for the rookie defensive lineman Balow Nichols. 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:36.840 Just your overall thoughts on all that as we get 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.319 ready for the Bills. You know, first near and dear 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.600 to my heart is the Kyle Long injury because I 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.919 saw the effort he put in throughout the off season 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.640 and throughout training camp to be ready to go out 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.280 there and play once the regular season got here. And 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.880 I keep saying it's a different one if you're playing 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.960 on an All Pro level or a Pro Bowl level, 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.360 and Kyle was playing at an all pro level. I 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.600 mean he added that he added that strength to the 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.560 inside he and a lot to the guys inside the 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.640 locker room and all of his teammates. So it's really 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.040 unfortunate when you see a guy like that get injured. 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.799 But if you play long enough, one of those injuries 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.320 are going to haunt you, whether it's Peewee high school 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.720 or professional for And when you say one of those injuries, 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.040 what are you referring to, Well, you know, as a 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.200 guy that's really invested himself in the organization and the 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.480 organization is invested in him, He's gone through a lot 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.880 through the other injuries he's faced to come out here 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.240 and play at the power and the level he has 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.160 the ability to play at. Because if you don't dedicate 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.960 yourself one hundred percent of the offseason, you're never gonna 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.280 play during the regular season. And that's one thing that 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:43.040 I really admired about Kyle is is what the way 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:47.079 he you know, took over and was able to come 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.520 back and function as one of the most powerful offensive 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.720 linemen after going through the injuries. And the fact is, 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.520 you know, because you've played it in a way that 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.320 none of us can even understand. You put yourself out 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.560 there every day and you played through a lot of pain. 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.600 You still experience a lot of pain after the fact. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.440 You never complain about it. But his injuries were severe, 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.240 they were severe, They were very difficult to overcome and 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:12.600 not everybody would have. Not everybody can, and not everybody 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.240 would be willing to go back out there and do 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.359 it all over again. But you know, that's the thing 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:18.960 that why his teammates respect him so much, because they 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.200 you know, when they're going to get their ankles tape 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.360 before practice. He's the guys that's going through rehab for 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.920 four or five six hours a day, every day throughout 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.600 the entirety of the pre surgery to get prepared to 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.320 have surgery, and then the post surgery effort that you 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.000 have to put into it. And so these guys aren't 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:42.000 they're not numb to what he and committed to be unready. Yeah, 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:43.720 and that was a roll up injury, right. We like 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:45.360 to say, you know, it gets the trash. You're trying 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.560 to work through the trash, and sometimes you know it's 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.240 friendly fire. Yeah, running back runs into you or a 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.119 teammate runs into you. That's happened many times. I'm trying 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.200 to remember specifics too. And he just got named offensive 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.800 line coach in Dallas and that's Mark Colombo and he 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.400 get you know, hit from behind. John Alred member John 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.400 Alread the tight end. You always say it was most 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.480 manned hours lost to injuries a tight end position, and 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.120 we've seen what's happening is Zach Miller here and over 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.080 the years those rolled up injuries. You know what it is? 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.400 Dangerous one up. Yeah, Dick sNaN Felt, our offensive line coach, 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.280 you always used to have a saying, keep your head up, 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.640 in your feet moving when you're playing in sports and 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.880 you have a chance of being in a pile. If 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.440 you stop your feet, that's when you have a greater 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.120 chance of being fell on and that can be injury. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.280 That can hurt you, injure you. And so that's why 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:30.960 you gotta keep your feet churning. You got to keep 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.920 your head up. And I know it sounds a little 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:34.960 bit more, but you really do. We we were in 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.840 practice one time when William Perry was playing fullback and 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.680 we are going through short yardage goal line period and 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.919 Stefan Humphreys got stalemated at the line and practice and 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.839 Fridge went into him and fell on him and did 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.240 the same thing that the Kyle was. Do you have 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.640 anything close to that? No, I mean I personally I 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.599 tore my planner fashiit. But that was during a play, 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.880 so not like having an injury that you know, tons 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:02.080 of wait, fell on you with that type of impact. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.720 All right, Well, the good news is they do have depth. 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.320 They have depth. They believe him on the interior of 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.440 the line. So James Daniel's getting his first NFL start 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.839 last week at left guard. I'm assuming he will stay 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.280 there at Cody White Harett center, and then Eric Cush 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:19.680 Brian Whitzman the two options at right guard. Also, you 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.680 still have Bradley soul on this roster who can play 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.240 multiple positions. He's a good swing veteran that you can 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.960 put anywhere, and he's certainly been a factor in that 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.560 extra attacker on the offensive line. The thing about Whitzman, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.800 he has experience in the system, so he knows it 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.919 very well thirteen starts last season for Kansas City, and 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.599 Eric Cush obviously knows it very well as well. He 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.080 was limited today still with the next stinger working through that, 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.520 but he should be available well. Best case scenario would 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.240 be that Eric Cush would be able to go into 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.440 the right guard line up and stay there for the 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.200 rest of the year and turns until Whitzman really gets 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.760 up the speed. It would be difficult if he went 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:59.839 into Buffalo under that at a hostile environment. The changes 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.000 that they're trying to interrupt your blocking schemes with upfront 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.080 by the movement of their bodies. You want to make 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.440 sure that you have guys that have repetitiously done it 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.080 before throughout this system, but you might not have that luxury. 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.560 So I think, no matter what Harry he said, the 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.880 offensive line coach will have these guys prepared well, and 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.760 he does a great job. I mean that mess around. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:20.839 The demeanor of all these guys too, is what you 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.040 want as interior offensive linemen. These guys are not finessed playing, 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.600 you know, any of them. The thing about injuries is, um, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.120 you know, I was a guy that sat there and 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.120 not waiting for someone to get injured. But I knew 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.280 in my chants or my number was called, you had 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.640 to be ready. And so you have these guys that 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:37.359 they got to be sitting on their edge of the 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:42.240 seat exactly waiting for what happened to Kyle. It happens, unfortunately, 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:43.880 they got to be ready to go. And it's not 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.359 something that you got to be, you know, kind of 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.400 encouraged to go in or be excited about your opportunity. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.760 This is what you play for and prepare for your 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.360 whole life. And you know guys that have been sitting, 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.279 you know, sitting waiting for their opportunities for quite a 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.320 period of time, and then when they're they're opportunity unity 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.279 has presented. We've seen guys that aren't ready, but we 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.480 see guys that the reason they're in the NFL is 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.240 for that opportunity. All right, Well, sitting into the big 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.160 chair and joining us here. I don't know how long 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.760 we got before we take a break, but I Kim Hicks, 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.800 everybody getting a nice round of applause. Thank you for 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:20.280 joining us. The fans are here, Kim, how you doing nice? 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:25.440 And late? Nice? Well, you know, I'll leave that up 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:29.200 to Tom to discuss. Tom is very particular about timing. Well. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:30.880 I was just trying to explain that, you know, once 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.400 the game concludes in the week, begins your hand and 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.160 itinerary for the week, and you kind of have every 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.280 increment of time spelled out for you, so you kind 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.440 of know what's going on. Hey, I saw a video 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.440 of you from September when you had your longer hair. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.800 When did you cut your hair? Shoot? I want to 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.920 say it was like week three or four? How come 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:50.880 it was time for a change, man? I just I 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.520 felt like I was looking too rough. My mom didn't 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.440 like it, so she wants the beard going too. But 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.000 we'll see, right, a lot of people I've seen him, 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.760 You've seen pictures with him without it, and I would 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.680 not recognize. Well you would because you're you're a big dude. 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:05.000 So you know what you're gonna do. You know you're 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:06.640 gonna you know you that's a chem walking hey, But 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.960 you would, I swear to you. And I've seen pictures 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.400 without any facial air. You got a baby face going on. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.440 Well you you look like a young man without a beard. 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.280 I look like I'm twelve years old. Honestly. Is that 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.480 why you have it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it definitely is. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.280 But I did get one thing. My dad gave me 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.760 a butt chin. So if I shaved this office right there, 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:26.320 you could wipe this office. All right. Well a keem, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.960 We're gonna take a break. We'll get reset, and we'll 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.560 dig in and talk about the twenty eighteen Chicago Bears 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.160 and how things are going for you with our studio audience. Here. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.520 We're brought to you by IGS Energy. This is Bears 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.360 All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy. The Score 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.960 and Welcome back to Bears All Access frost to you 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:47.480 by IGS Energy, your cloud partner with Chicago Bears, providing electricity, 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:51.080 natural gas, and home warranty products over one million customers 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.800 across the country. Learn more about IGS Energy at igs 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.640 dot com. Jeff Joniac and Tom Fair with you until 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.840 seven o'clock tonight, joined by defensive li'm at a chem 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.760 off to another great start this season with the four 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.760 and three Bears head of the Buffalo on Sunday. And 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.959 there have been a lot of different statistical organizations that 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.960 come up with all sorts of formulas to describe offenses 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.160 and defenses in the league. Right now, it's just not 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.599 the NFL stats that are put out. But there's a 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.720 lot of love right now for the Chicago Bears defense, 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.240 as you've seen on Twitter, and we've retweeted some of 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.400 these things, well well deserved. I mean, this defense is 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.080 playing some really good football. I think so too, man deservingly. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.040 So I think that we're getting some national recognition based 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.160 on just the play and the intensity that I think 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.160 our defense is playing with. I think that we've got 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.600 eleven guys that are just hungry and at anytime somebody 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.240 can make a play, and it's it's a fantastic situation 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.360 to being as a defensive linement because they're locking up 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.040 coverage back there and you get a chance to rush. 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.720 Khalil gets a chance to rush. It's it's a it's awesome. 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.720 But you know when you look at a team's preparation 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.040 to block the Chicago Bears, they start the protection against 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:54.599 you and then they kind of move it up and 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.760 down the line of scrimmage. So as the season to 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.520 tear or the seasonal winds on and you get more 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.280 depth into the offensive line, is there ever a chance 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.800 for a Keem Hicks to rush against the weak link 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.720 or move around and see if you see something on 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.160 film that maybe this guy doesn't have the experience that 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.960 give you better opportunity. It would be nice. And you 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:15.520 know what, I see it across the league all the time. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.720 I see guys going for the weak link, you know, 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.200 on the offensive line. They'll find a guard and they'll say, hey, man, 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:21.920 he looks soft and he looks like we can take 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.080 advantage of him, so they'll put their best rusher on him. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.040 And that's not really hasn't really been our manstre here 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.480 since since I've been here, it's really take your match 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.600 up and kick his butt and no matter who it is. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.880 And you know, I take pride and then I take 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.319 pride in being able to line up against whoever's out 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.000 there and saying I'm going to be the better man today. 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:39.880 You know, me thinking about that is because one of 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.520 the first time I did a radio show with you 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.760 back at Oliver and Nazarene, I said, you have comparisons 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:48.640 to Reggie White, And this past week on third and one, 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.400 you used to move that Reggie White is famous for. 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.520 You dominated the guy you made a tackle for a loss, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.640 and it's something that gets played and replay videos throughout 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.439 the rest of your career and all over the league. 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.520 It's something you thought about or was it just instinct 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.440 that you used it? I felt and we had we 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.560 had really good keys um this past week against the 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.040 Jets and um. You know something that I gave a 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.160 lot of credit to Jay Rodgers on this my position coach, 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.600 just because he's I have never had a coach that 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.520 is as prepared as he is coming into a game. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.560 And he gives me so many tips as far as 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.360 you know what I can expect on certain blocks and 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.720 I knew for sure that that tackle was coming down 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.680 to hit me, and I just gave him what he 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.839 wanted came in there, you know, I gave him a 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.040 little bit of me talking about the hull. He has 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.800 a move that Reggie, Reggie White startup. There's a couple 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.600 of other other guys that use it too. It's called 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.559 a hum who was where? If I'm an offensive lineman 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.840 and I'm getting my momentum going this way, a keem 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.679 picks me up with his arm, continues my momentum going 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.920 and I can't recover. But Reggie, why did it? There 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.000 was another guy that New Orleans says, jump jump jumping 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.400 Gathers was unbelievable at it. So, but you gotta you 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.920 have to have a unique style and strength. And you know, 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.160 it's funny that when I talked about you and Reggie 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.000 years ago and then I saw you use that movie, 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.800 it was really as going wild there. That's a you know, 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.720 just a sign of what he's able to do. What 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.360 Reggie was able to do. You know, you make me 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.240 blush every time you say I just love for people 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.160 that don't know, Reggie White is the best defensive lineman 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.440 ever played this game. And anytime you get compared to 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.920 somebody as great as he is. I just I melt 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:18.599 a little bit for Tom here. But yeah, well, you 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.439 know it's funny because I was watching these two guys 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:26.480 signed autographs during the commercial break right there, and uh, Tom, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.400 who was super strong as a player and a big guy, 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.920 and now he's reduced into my size comparatively speaking to 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:38.319 a Keim's he's like two of you right now. And 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.200 so I'm thinking, how would Tom block this guy, or 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.240 how it would akeem rush against Tom ed guard. It 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.360 would be an interesting vicious collision. It would be a 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.080 battle because I know, just from talking to him several times, 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:51.920 I just know he has a mentality that wants to 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.320 attack people. And I would just be hesitant to just 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.760 go in there and throw anything on the table. Cut first, 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.439 you would be cutting. It's different the snap count that 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.440 the way we use the snap count back in that 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.520 generation is different than the way they use the snap 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.080 count now. So for me, I would get my hands 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.400 to a keem to try to stop any momentum that 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.960 he had before he'd get off the ball, because if 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.080 he got momentum, it's over the thing. If I would 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.520 try to jump the snap count and get to you. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.000 You see what I told you, He's already thought about it. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:20.640 He's already thought about how he would beat me. Look, 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.120 I gotta watchop for guys like that. But you know, 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.920 you study though, you study tape, and you you know 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.000 what you're looking for. To you'd be finding whatever. I'm 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.679 not suggesting you had any any inequalities in his game 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.319 or any holes in his game that you would try 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:37.520 and poke if you're studying his tape. If I'm studying 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.040 his tape, I'm throwing power at Tom because I'm trying 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.160 to beat aggressiveness with aggressiveness, you know what I mean. 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.400 Because I like to feel like I am the stronger 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.600 person out there and so which it may not be true, right, 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.440 but I like to feel that way. He's giving you 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.439 a lot of credit on this show. We talk about 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.280 you a lot, and you know, when we're talking without 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.199 offensive lineman and have been on the show or whatever, 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.719 you can tell, like you brought up, you could tell 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.640 when a chem Hicks is ready to let it loose 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.319 it time goes just like here it comes the truck, right. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.200 That's what you know in my evaluation of watching opponents 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.520 throughout the season. Then you kind of read and okay, 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.480 where is their interruption? And the starters of offensive lineman 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.480 And having played against Reggie White, and you knew if 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.880 he lined up, if he lined up on you the 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:22.000 first third and long, it was kind of a oh moment, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.840 and you better do something or else He's gonna be 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.360 there all day. And then I'll move up and down 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.200 the line of scrimmage. So it'd be interesting if Akam 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.640 had that right to evaluate, find and then attack. Well, 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.360 Vic's moving you guys am out a little bit right, 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.640 definitely in some of our packages. And I'm not going 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.120 to divulge any you know, information that we need to 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.480 keep secret, but I would say that Vick is one 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.280 of my favorite defensive coordinators ever. Not I'm not just 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:45.760 saying that because I get to play in this scheme, 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.360 but I watched him back when he was in San 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.400 Francisco and just how he had those guys just coming 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.680 off the ball, hitting blocks and just making plays. And 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.720 I was so excited when I came here to be 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.200 able to try to be the next Justin Smith, You 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.680 know what I mean? Yeah, the crazy thing. You mentioned 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.160 Coach Rodgers too, and Coach Rogers was a college quarterback. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.480 He's teaching defensive line play to me, and he's outstanding 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.000 at it. We both have thrown him many accolades for 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.240 what he's done with this unit. He does so with 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.480 an intensity that you can only appreciate being in the room, 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.720 but I can see it. To me, that's one of 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:24.000 the most unique aspects of this particular coaches. That he 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.960 was a quarterback. I'd never seen it, and when I 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.120 first learned that, I was like, I don't know how, 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.800 I how this is going to work out. But man, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:34.760 when you see his intensity on the field, when you 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.640 see his intensity every day in practice, like he has 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.520 his sayings, his bring the juice, and he brings that 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.320 dang juice every day and you know some days you're like, oh, man, 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.480 can we have like a diet drink today? But he 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.240 wants the juice and he likes to go after and 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.280 then he's a really good coach. You know. It's different 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.640 coaching you with the skill that you that you met 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.720 him with. It's different when he coaches Bal Nichols or 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.520 Roy Robertson Harris because you can see growth in their 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.560 fundamentals and the techniques that they use to have successful plays. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.440 And I think it's more interesting when you see these 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.560 young guy from Delaware, Roy Rob who hasn't really had 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.680 to you know, been able to stay at one position 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.960 for a long time. To watch those guys develop, because 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.920 that's what's gonna make the Bears better. You're you are 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:14.960 what you are, These guys, they got a lot of 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.120 development to do. Yeah, man, And it's awesome to see. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:18.480 It's awesome to see them come along. One of my 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.960 favorites to watch right now. As you mentioned below, Nichols 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.520 just he's so receptive and wants to learn the game 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.720 and wants to be a great defensive lineman. And when 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.840 you have a guy like that, you just want to 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.160 give him everything, Like I give him information that he 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.080 doesn't even want, you know what I mean. Just I'm 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.440 there for everything that he needs because he seeks it out. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.640 You know that's good. Well, you know he's We had 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.200 him on the show a couple of weeks ago and 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.400 he said that during the preseason you made him sit 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.000 down next to you on the team plane and go 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.040 watch tape after games. I don't know how many guys 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.120 do that. I mean, that's a heck of a gesture 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.040 on your part. So why do you do it? Because 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.040 I like to um, I guess I'll say this my 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:55.960 The way I was treated as a rookie is the 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:57.920 way I wanted to treat my rookies. You know, when 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.680 I got to that point and as rookie, I felt 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.840 like there were people in my organization that wanted to 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:04.520 see me succeed and they wanted the best for me, 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.320 and they would push me to that point. And I 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.000 want to return the favorite to Bill out and make 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.000 sure that he gets everything that he can and learns 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.520 from the thousands of snaps that I have. You know, 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.320 it's it's rare thinking because we've had guys that come 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.080 through here and I remember stories players telling hey, you 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.320 know what, I'm not gonna do what other players did 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.880 to me and not be willing to help me because 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.560 they didn't want to lose their job. I'm certain time 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.359 you were that way, like you're not gonna I mean, 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.400 I know you're a team guy, but you know what, 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.000 I need to start, I need to plan, need to 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.960 keep my job. Was that not true? You know, hey, 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.439 you always want to be a starter, and even if 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.520 they you know, there's times throughout your career where they 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.800 draft a guy that's they want to him to come 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.560 and take your job. And it is the political season, 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.360 isn't it time there with the political answer? I want 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.320 to exactly all right, We're gonna take a step away 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.640 here a Keem Hicks with Tom There and Jeff jonih Act. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.000 Thanks for joining us here on Bears All Access here 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.080