1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeart Radio Podcast. Hello, 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: my little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: is Frosted Tips with me Lance Bass and my lovely 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: lovely co host and husband, Turkey Turchin. Hey there, guys, 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: Michael for some of you, but Turkey gobble gobble. All right. 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get right to our guests because I have 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: a feeling we're gonna need this whole hour, Okay, because 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: I hear he loves to talk and tell some good 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: stories for a good ride here with Tony Aller. 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: Yes, one half of m K t O, the t 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: O of m K t O. 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Uh, you know them, you love them? Uh. Their song 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: classic is just one that just goes over my head 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: over over and over and over in my head. So uh, 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: when we come back, let's get to Tony. Tony, I 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: can't speak. 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: Or Tony oller. 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's get this started. Anthony Michael Ahler is 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: an American singer, songwriter actor from Springfield, Illinois but raised 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. He had roles at as Waltmore on 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: the teen Nick TV show Gigantic and as Danny on 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Disney's Channel as the Bell Rings. He appeared in the 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: films Beneath the Darkness the Purge, which scared the crap 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: out of me. He was also half of the group 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: mkt O with his co star Malcolm David Kelly, who 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: we had so before leaving the group in twenty twenty one, 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: which you have to talk about because y'allt y'all get together, 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: you take a break, you get back together. So we 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: need the full story, Tony. But let's start from the beginning. Yes, 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: So we've been going through everyone's history finding out how 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: they got into what they're doing now. So let's start 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: at that beginning. You grew up in Houston, Texas. What 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: was it like for little Tony in Houston, Texas? 34 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: Man? You know, I don't know about you, but I 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: couldn't gain weight to save my life in high school, 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: so you know, senior year one, fifteen, and you know, 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: I always wanted to be the the sport jock guy. 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was it possible. But uh, you know, 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: I did theater. I love theater, I think, especially when 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 3: you come from the South, especially back in the day, 41 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: if you did theater or acting or singing, it was 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: a very uh. 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: You're immediately gay, which is the worst ever. 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: Well, you were just immediately put into a category that 45 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: didn't to fit with everyone, and that was a shame. 46 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: But but yeah, So, I mean I I always like, 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: I just you know, at the end of the day, 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 3: acting and music. I mean, you know, you go to 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: a movie, see Spider Man, you want to be Spider 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: Man when you come out of it. It's just that 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: same thing. And I always, I always enjoyed that. So 52 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: besides the you know, the hazing that we all got 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: back in the day, I think it's somewhat better now. 54 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: I don't know I made it right. 55 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm hoping because it's it's very much more 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: of a open dialogue and people are held accountable for 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 3: for saying me things, which is which is great unless 58 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: you're dying and someone just decides to film it as 59 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: opposed to help. 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: I don't agree with. 61 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: Yes, And so your family was like, how were they 62 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: musically talented or into theater? 63 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm adopted. So I was adopted from Springfield or taylor Illinois, 64 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: Taylorville one of the two. Yeah, definitely, so I was adopted. 65 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: So but ironically, I don't think if you met my 66 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: mom you would say, oh, this isn't this isn't her blood. 67 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 3: We're very similar in a lot of ways. But she's 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: a hoarder. I'm not a hoarder. So yeah, so I mean, 69 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: as far as that goes, they were just always so supportive. 70 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: And you know, you get older and you realize, you know, 71 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: what a sacrifice and you know the fact that I 72 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: was adopted is I wouldn't be where I am today 73 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: if it wasn't for that situation. So I met my 74 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 3: actually met my birth mom. Yeah, and half brother and 75 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: half sister all in a weekend. It wasn't planned because yeah, 76 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: so my family was all from the same high school. 77 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: So my mom that adopted me went to the same 78 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: high school my birth mom did. 79 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: Oh, but they didn't know each other. 80 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 3: They didn't No, they did not know ironically, but it 81 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: was a very small town. Ironically, I was eighteen. I 82 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 3: don't know why I'm saying ironically. When I was eighteen, 83 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: I was in visiting my grandma. My cousin says, hey, 84 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: you want to meet your sister, and I'm like what. 85 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, your sister. She says, she's your sister, 86 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: and I'm like what. So anyway, we ended up meeting 87 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: up it was really cool. There was a lot of 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: you know, it was good to get some questions and 89 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: answers with that. But other than that, man, yeah, it 90 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: was just you know, life, life has a way of 91 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: just kind of everything happening. 92 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: It's so funny. It's fascinating to me, especially you know 93 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: when people are adopted in this day and age with 94 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: twenty three and me and all that, where people are 95 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: finding their relatives out there like wait a minute, and 96 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: so very much they're getting down to the truth of 97 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: like where they came from, which can be positive for 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: some people, but can go well for a lot. 99 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: When you don't know if you're adopted. 100 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: Oh, I know, right, absolutely Now you started working at 101 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: a young age, when did you how long did you 102 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: live in Houston? Did you make it to LA when 103 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: you were a kid to start acting? 104 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: So I went out there for one pilot season, which 105 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: was like basically just like a couple of months where 106 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 3: there's a lot of auditions that happened. 107 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: And it just doesn't happen anymore, Like pilot. 108 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: Does not happen anymore, absolutely not. I mean these were 109 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: the days when you had if you went out there, 110 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: you'd have like seven auditions in a day, you go 111 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: bam bam, bam, bam bam. And so I was out 112 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: there for that and I went to like John Mure 113 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 3: Middle School Burbank, which was pretty cool. Actually I loved it. 114 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: I mean, definitely better than Houston. But so after that, 115 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: at eighteen, I had saved up money that I got 116 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: from Disney and all that stuff, and I moved out 117 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: to LA and I had enough to last me like 118 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: a year. Thankfully, every time things seemed to whittle down 119 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: something good what happened, I was like grateful to whoever's 120 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: you know, looking out for that. 121 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: And that's funny how that happens. That happens to my life. 122 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: It happened in my life too. 123 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: But it's one of those things to where you when 124 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: it doesn't happens, you realize how much more grateful you 125 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: were it did. Oh, because it doesn't always happen. And 126 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: and uh, I'll humble you quick. Uh. 127 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: Now, some of your roles featured you singing like Disney 128 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: Channels as the bell rings, But when did you decide 129 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: to actually pursue the music side of you. 130 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: I always loved music. I I don't know about you, 131 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: but I still am you know, super self conscious in 132 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff in life, even singing or being 133 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: put on the spot, like my anxiety goes through the roof. 134 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: But I always there was something about music that was 135 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: more in control, right than acting or reading a script. 136 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: It was the It was the ability to help put 137 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: something together and know you did a lot, you know 138 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: to help it. And I I just I always, you know, 139 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: I'd watched like these like you know, you're younger, you're eighteen, 140 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: You're living in LA there's a lot of people you meet, 141 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: and you know, Malcolm and I just clicked, and you know, 142 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: we would just start hanging out all the time and 143 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: and doing the music thing. But I think it didn't 144 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: really take itself seriously until after we met on a thing. 145 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: I don't even know what I can say because of 146 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: the sad thing. But when we started doing stuff, we 147 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: put stuff on YouTube, and we had both individually done 148 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: music beforehand, whether it's putting up covers or or you know, 149 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: doing songs here and there, but really really bad. 150 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 151 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: I produced a song that was awful, but I think 152 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: it's still on iTunes that is just ridiculously made on 153 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: garage band, but it's fun. And through that it was 154 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: like dude, you know, we would sit there and be 155 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: talking about, Man, I want to be cool if you 156 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: were on this side of the stage, on that side 157 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: of the stage, and we got people singing the songs 158 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: were writing and and that's like there is a certain 159 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: high to that, and I know you know that Lance, 160 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: there is there is such an incredible feeling you can 161 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: describe and and you know, to have it happened the 162 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: way it did, it was it was really cool because 163 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: you know, obviously it wouldn't have if everything didn't fall 164 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: in line the way it. 165 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: Did, it definitely would have happened. So do you remember that? 166 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember the moment you met Malcolm? Was it anything? Oh? 167 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 168 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Man. 169 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: So I was living in LA and they were doing 170 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 3: screen tests for Gigantic at the Nickelodeon building in Santa Monica, 171 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: and uh so, I think, yeah, it was a Nicklodeon building. 172 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: I believe we're MTV building. 173 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, the VIA building, Yeah yeah yeah. 174 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: So. Uh So, there was two people that were up 175 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: for the best friend role and I had gotten cast 176 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: in it, and they were asking you to come there 177 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: to do chemistry to these two people. I felt so 178 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: bad for the other guy because I mean, the minute 179 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: I met Malcolm. We just clicked because I watched you 180 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: got served, like I hadn't seemed lost, okay, but I 181 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,359 Speaker 3: knew immediately you got served. And I was an aspiring 182 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 3: breakdancer in my early years nicebsolutely awful at it. But 183 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: but man, so uh, I immediately clicked with him, and 184 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: you know, I met the other guy, and you know, 185 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: it was just it was a very cohesive, kosher, you know. 186 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 3: And uh, you know, after we read, I was like, guys, 187 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: please pick him, please, you know, and it was it 188 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: was cool. And from then on there, man, you stayed 189 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: in close contact. And it's crazy, though, because that one 190 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: moment affected my life for the next in a great way. 191 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: And that that's that was a. 192 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: That was a really cool experience. I love that it's called, 193 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: as we say, absolutely when you're when did you start 194 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: getting into the garage band, because I, I mean, I 195 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: couldn't even produce music on gard garage band right now. 196 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: Nobody can't, well some people can't, but like when it 197 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 3: comes to what comes with garage band, it, yeah, god man, 198 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: so I used got up to logic to where I 199 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: finally learned logic. But god man, uh, you know, there 200 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: was a time when auto tune was like going crazy 201 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: and you know, you had a pitch correct in garage band, 202 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: but it was so bad, you know, Like but like 203 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: I would be I would. 204 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: Watch the original share sounding Yeah, oh my god, man, 205 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: yeah auto tune it's butchered. 206 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: It really bad. But I don't know, man, I would 207 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: watch like Lil Wayne videos my eighteen living alone, and 208 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: I would watch like these mixtapes where he had you know, 209 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: auto tune on his voice, and I kid you not, man, 210 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: there's probably a thousand hours worth of mixtape rap songs 211 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: that I've done with friends on garage band. I pray 212 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: never see the light of death. 213 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: Did you have any mentors to help you do or 214 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: do you just kind. 215 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: Of YouTube YouTube? Did man? 216 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: Well? 217 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: Garage it was a little easier to well, not a 218 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: little easier. It's somewhat logic is when I finally got 219 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: some help. But I mean, you know, I wouldn't even 220 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: say the garage band stuff I did sounded it was awful. 221 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: It was just but it was a moment in time, 222 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, it was a moment. 223 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: It was something. 224 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Atari, you know, it's like, you know. 225 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: I found an old Sega Genesis console. I had the 226 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: other day with paper Boy. I don't know if you remember. 227 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: It was awesome. Jumped the bike ran so simple. These 228 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: days you've got you know, whole worlds. 229 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 2: And the play the ones now complicated you. 230 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: Once after it was after PlayStation two. They lost me 231 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: because I had to PlayStation two and then I started 232 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: getting busy within sync and I just. 233 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you know, and then he jumped back into it. 234 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: Had an Xbox, but like didn't play it that much. 235 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: The guys. 236 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we probably had that at like Arena tours 237 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: right like they would have it in like the green room. 238 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: We had it on our bus. I mean we would 239 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: playing it. We play Halo and scared. I mean I 240 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: would be so scared of my bunk because we'd have 241 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: like four of these things put together and we'd play 242 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: each other and everyone's sniping your ass, and like, stop sniping. 243 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: That's cheating. 244 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 2: We have got to. 245 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: Talking about the bunks, man, Did you ever fall out 246 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: of yours? 247 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: Surprisingly, I've never fallen out of a bunk. No, but 248 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: I know lots of people that have. And I love 249 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: ice sleep the best in a bus, I. 250 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: Do, dude, So I would get little claustrophobic and I 251 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: felt bad because I would kind of just take the 252 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: back room right so like people would come back there 253 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: to watch TV, but I'd just make a little I 254 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 3: would just feel so secluded. And then the one time 255 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 3: I rolled out of thinking I was in bed and 256 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: just ate, you know, big splat and man, there was 257 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 3: one time where I don't know what it was, probably 258 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: a random story, but I had gotten an eye infection 259 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: and it was basically like a bad version of pink eye, 260 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: but like my whole entire eyes were puffed. I woke up, 261 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: didn't know what it was. We had a news performance 262 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: at seven in the morning and we had to do it, 263 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: so I wore glasses. I looked like the biggest dude, 264 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: just like, hey man, I wearing glasses, you know, and 265 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: I'm trying to be cool. And if, like you saw 266 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: me take them off, you go, okay, ye put him back. 267 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: It's all good. I love it. 268 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: I remember when we finally were because you know, the 269 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: five of us always shared a bus for years and 270 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: then finally we get to a tour. We got spread 271 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: out to two buses, so it was three guys and 272 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: one and two on the other and I was on 273 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: one with Joey fatone, which is a whole nother story, 274 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: but that was when we finally got to have the 275 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: queen size bed in the back. And you better believe 276 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: I took that bedroom. It was like, Joey, you get 277 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: the ball right here. So yeah, it was. It was. 278 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 279 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was just we never got to the 280 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: we had if we did. No, we did have two buses. 281 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 3: It was still one crew and one the other one. 282 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: But I loved it, man. I love the relationships with 283 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: the crew and the people you met on these tours. 284 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: It's a family. I tell people. It's like, especially in 285 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: the acting world. You know when you do a show, 286 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, movie, you do a TV series, it's the 287 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: same thing. You get to know this crew so well, 288 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: in the writers and directors, and you become this family, 289 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it's over and you're like, oh, 290 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: and summer noting to do? 291 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: I know, you go from seven am six pm schedules 292 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: for two years and you go back and you're like, 293 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,119 Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with downtime? 294 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, very. 295 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: Much, man. 296 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: So I mentioned before, So y'all kind of broke up 297 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: a few years ago, right twenty nineteen, oh yeah, and 298 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: then you got back together, which why did y'all did 299 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: you get back together just for one reason? Like a song? 300 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what. So, like, you know, I think 301 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: there was a there's a period of time, especially when 302 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: you're growing up in this world, that you can very 303 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: easily get lost of yourself, lost in yourself, and lost 304 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: with everything around you. And you know, it's kind of 305 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: exactly what you're just saying that there was a there 306 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: was a hard adjustment, especially for me, to go from 307 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: this is what you have to do every day. Okay, 308 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: you can hang out for a month. You don't got 309 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: to worry about anything. And you know that for me 310 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: was like because I'm a very introverted person like I 311 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: you know, I could go years without wanting to leave 312 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: my house. You know, it's it's you know, and that's 313 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: not necessarily healthy. And I think, you know, I got 314 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: to a point to where just wasn't happy anymore. I 315 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: was extremely lost and just you know, there was other 316 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: things that were happening behind the scenes. And this is 317 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: another thing too, is you know, when you're making your 318 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: label millions, you're you're you know, you get treated a 319 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: certain way, and when you're not, you get treated a 320 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: certain way, and you know you'll get a you'll get 321 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: a million dollar budget for a music video. If that 322 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: doesn't go well, your next budget's probably five hundred if 323 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: that two fifty, down, down, down, And I think seeing 324 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: that and not being used to being grounded that Listen, 325 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: what you did was great, but it's not going to 326 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: always happen, and you have to figure out the tools 327 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: within your life to make sure that when it happens, 328 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: you can handle it. So I was really just I 329 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: got to a point where I just was ready to 330 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: go back and there was other things behind the scenes 331 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,119 Speaker 3: that happened, whether it's people you're working with or contracts 332 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: or whatever. And for that point though, so I moved 333 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: back to Houston. And the positive thing I look at 334 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: that from a as I'm still alive, right. Uh. The second 335 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: part is when you, I guess, have whatever success you 336 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: have at a young age, you in one way or another. 337 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: I feel maybe you have relationships in your life you 338 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: never really cared to explore because you kind of feel 339 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: like you're on your own right. You had support from 340 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: your family, but then you know you're out by yourself. 341 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: The family, the relationship kind of distances and you lose 342 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: whatever that relationship was you had, and from moving back 343 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: and being older, I've rekindled, you know, those relationships with 344 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: my family, and you know, it made everything worth it 345 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: in my opinion. You know, it never happens again, that's fine, 346 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: But being able to have those relationships, being able to 347 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: spend time with my family seeing them was something that 348 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: I was very grateful that happened out of a chaos situation. 349 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: And and if it wasn't for that, I don't think 350 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: i'd be as close with my family as I am now. 351 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: So funny actually, right, it's I know, it's all about 352 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: the journey and thank god you got to learn those 353 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: things at such an early age. 354 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 3: Man, you know, well, still still learning, still learning, We 355 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: all learn. 356 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I can totally relate to what you're saying, 357 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: you know, with like the depression of it all, you know, 358 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: when you're because when you get to a high like 359 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: you guys have and like in sync has you. Yeah, 360 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: but like it's hard to beat that, right, It's like, yeah, 361 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: there's a moment in time and like we're lucky if 362 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: we get two chances like that. Right, But but it 363 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: is as much as you enjoy it and like, Wow, 364 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: you can't help but get depressed afterwards, be like god, 365 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: I feel like what else what is there for me? 366 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: When like no one just paid, like no one cares 367 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: about me anymore? 368 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: Well exactly. I mean at that point, there's only the 369 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: only way to go is down about you know what 370 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: I mean. So you're kind of setting yourself up. 371 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: And people like because I remember, uh so our last album, 372 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: uh Celebrity was considered too many that it was a flop, 373 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: you know, and it was our last album, and I 374 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: always been like, I hate going out on a flop, right, 375 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: everything's like you but it sold like six million albums? 376 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: How did people consider that? But yeah, if you compare 377 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: it to what you did right before, then everything looks 378 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: like a failure if you compare it that way. So 379 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: it just it was just weird to me that people 380 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: would just look down upon us because we told that. 381 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: It's like you only sold a million the first week. 382 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: And it was also. 383 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 3: Like like what about people? You know, like there was 384 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 3: no there was no sense of I felt like with 385 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 3: a lot of the people that were surrounding it was like, hey, 386 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: it's gonna be okay. You know, we're gonna you know, 387 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 3: label you know, maybe coming and say we'll get an 388 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: next time. You know, we'll figure it out. 389 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: But it was all yeah, our label was like you 390 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: guys are done. Like they saw that as a chance 391 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: to be like we are now taking a guy and 392 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: going so that because this is not happening. 393 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: Very very similar on our Bad Girls. Whatever we did 394 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: was like they gave us a million dollar budget for 395 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: the video. Super exciting. Yeah we did it where they 396 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: shot American Sniper, There's beautiful women. It was really cool. Uh, 397 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: it was like mad Max theme and that song. 398 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: Yep, and now don't you realize? I mean, I wish 399 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: we had learned this earlier, the word recoupable because yeah, 400 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: when we would get there billion dollar budget, like oh 401 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: we're paying yeah, yeah, it. 402 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: Wasn't they weren't really putting that million dollar budget. We're 403 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: gonna take that out of your next check. 404 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like next we're just going to do a 405 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: fan video, like recording our next concert. 406 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: Next time on your iPhone. 407 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: Dude. It was like the three sixty three sixty management. 408 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that was very much like that way of 409 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 3: the deal, and it's I think it's awesome that you know, 410 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: there's definitely opportunities now these days where people kind of 411 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: can cut the middleman out. 412 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: And I was going to ask that because you were 413 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: kind of on that cusp of the labels kind of 414 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: disappearing and just becoming a PR firm, and a lot 415 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: of artists that get discovered on YouTube and TikTok, they 416 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: get to play around with those labels like yeah, I 417 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: gotta sign with you. Yeah, I have so much power now. 418 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: So what was that like when labels were coming after 419 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: you guys? Was it easy to choose? And did Joe everything? 420 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: Maybe we should do this independently. 421 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: You know? So it was a really random thing. So, 422 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: like I grew up going to like bands, warped tour shows, right, 423 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: So there was a band that I had kind of seen, 424 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: I think it was called Maybe. 425 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: The Cab and and through that through that world, I 426 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 4: had met Brian Dales from the Somerset and he and 427 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: I kept in contact and randomly out one day I 428 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: kind of asked him, like, hey, man, anybody in LA 429 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 4: doing any music things? 430 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: Really random stupid question because like, of course they are. 431 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 3: Can you introduce me to one? But there was there 432 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: was two producers, I Man and Evan and Andrew Goldstein, 433 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: who was in a band called the Friday Night Boys 434 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 3: and Andrew so I reached out to and when we 435 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: had met, they had classic So it was that song 436 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: was already basically, you know, it was there. It was like, hey, 437 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: you guys want to cut it? Actually no, it was 438 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: an audition. He's like, you guys, cut it. If we 439 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: like the way you're sound it, we'll go from there. 440 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: And I was like, hell, yeah, you love it. So 441 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: we cut like an EP couple of songs. 442 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: When you heard that, what was your first thought when 443 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: you heard that demo? 444 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 445 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: Man? 446 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: I was like really. 447 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: You sure? 448 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, you know, like everybody you've ared, y sure, 449 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: I mean you know. But we were so young, We're 450 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: like we went in there, man, We're like, let's have 451 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 3: some drinks, let's do this, man, let's party, you know. 452 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: And and there was a it was it was a 453 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 3: fun thing. But once that was cut, then it became 454 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 3: the label selection, right. So what they wanted to do 455 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: was we wanted the base they use those songs to 456 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 3: get a good deal because everybody that we had played 457 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: the song for and we went to the label, we 458 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: went to you know, New York Run, which was a 459 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: Columbia dive Universal basically did the whole Hey, guys, that's 460 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: going so and so here play a song blah blah 461 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And then what was funny and I'm 462 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 3: curious to know what you guys went through with this 463 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 3: was we would meet like you know, the president. You're like, 464 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: what are you doing tonight? I'm like, uh, you know, 465 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 3: we're just hey, you out. He's like, dude, come to 466 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: my penthouse. We'll have some meatballs made by my chef, 467 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 3: and then we'll go we'll go out on the town. 468 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: So I won't say who it was, but he had 469 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: a penhouse. Actually I can't remember his name, to be honest. 470 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: He had a. 471 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: Pose above Pee Diddy or blow p Diddy, and that 472 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: was the selling point. He's like, dude, P Diddy's underneath me. 473 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: Come on now right. Uh we go to his apartment. 474 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: There's literally a maid that had just gotten done finishing meatballs. 475 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 3: I mean, there's like a It was. It made no sense. 476 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 3: It was like I'm ever going, hey, man, how's it going? 477 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: Come on over? It just it was weird. It's super weird, 478 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: great kneeballs, but dude. So then after that he's like, 479 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: come on, man, we're gonna go out. We're like, okay, 480 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: you know, we're eighteen, you know, can't even drink. We're like, yeah, absolutely, man. Uh. 481 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: And he took us to this like Illuminati looking building, right, 482 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 3: so it's like down an alley. It was there, you know, 483 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: lots of it is super sketchy looking, right, and we 484 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 3: go in. 485 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 486 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 3: He goes to the front of the line. He goes, hey, 487 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: I'm going in. He's like, oh, yes, sir, so and 488 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: so please come in and we go in, super dim, 489 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: candles lit. It was an old theater and come to 490 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: find out that was Charlie Chaplin's theater and a private 491 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: owner owns it and he had had like this kind 492 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 3: of party thing there. But I remember I was just 493 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: like Malcolm and I are just looking at you, like, 494 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on? 495 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: Man? 496 00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: Like what And although that was amazing, you didn't sign. Yeah. 497 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean we had some similarities. Look, the record labels 498 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: did not even want us. I mean, you talk about 499 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: Tommy Matola to La read, Everyone's like, yeah, that's not 500 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: gonna happen to Yeah. So we had to do our 501 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: stuff in Germany. So I'm sure yes to the president 502 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: starting there with his wife and it's you know, it's 503 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: not it's not New York City, let's put it that way. 504 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: It's your Munich, Germany. 505 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: But that wasn't even I mean, I don't think that. 506 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: That's not just how it was. I mean, and and 507 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 3: talk about making people go damn, I should have done 508 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: something there. Yeah yeah, yeah, everything the way it played out, 509 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 3: you know, it's like, hey, that's the best way to 510 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: uh yeah, yeah, very much. 511 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: All right. So, uh, you've talked about making solo music before, 512 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: and you've, uh you've done some solo befo performances. But 513 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: would you ever release a solo album? 514 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 515 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 3: Uh ah, you know I would. 516 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: I would love to, but we're not working on that 517 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: right now. 518 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 3: It's not that I don't want to, uh, you know, 519 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 3: it's uh uh, it's just a fortunate situation, especially when 520 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: it's something that you always had as an outlet. Right, 521 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 3: So it's I don't even know how to describe it. 522 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: I describe it as you guys remember Star Wars, right 523 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: of course? Have you seen you remember in Harrison Ford 524 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: the walls are closing in. That's kind of how I 525 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: feel when it comes with that stuff, really, because it's unfortunate. 526 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 3: But I don't you know. It's it's stuff you do 527 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: when you're young. Uh, and then you know it's just 528 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: you get older you're like, oh, may it shouldn't have 529 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: done this or that. But I would I would love to. 530 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: That's best way I would say. I'd love to release music. 531 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's work on that. We've made some 532 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: magic happen on the show. 533 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: We have, we've put. 534 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: Groups together, we have made we've made things happen. Right. 535 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 3: Well, I gotta say that I love I love oh 536 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: and I just saw love. Oh. 537 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what the name of that art 538 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: piece is called Love is hard to find because it's 539 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: hard to find because it's black. 540 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: But then also, you got what's the art pieces you got? 541 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: Well that. 542 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: He does all our art. 543 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 2: I'm a resident artist. Yeah, faceless James Dean. But you 544 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: can't tell I love that man. 545 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 546 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: It's it's nice living with an artist because anytime I'm like, 547 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: you know what, like this piece right here we're going 548 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: to replace has been there for a few years, I'm 549 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: like I want something like this with this color, and 550 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: he's like, okay, done, Like, yeah, you never have to 551 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: buy art again. 552 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: It's really great. 553 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: I love it. 554 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: I love it. 555 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: I love art. 556 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: I love it. 557 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: It all goes and do you like to draw or 558 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: are you an artist yourself? 559 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 3: I like, I like drawing. I got into uh, I 560 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: can't even think the name of I got really bored 561 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: when I was trying to figure out how like shading 562 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: you know it's and who was the one thing? I 563 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: stipling stipling, right, I was baffled at it. Man, so 564 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: I I yeah, so I've done a few few random things, 565 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, you know there. 566 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: Was one bo I don't know because the whole shading 567 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: things new to me, Like you know, when I draw 568 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: a stick figure, you know, I'm I'm not taking any 569 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff. But your dad, Michael told 570 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: he had some book and it was all about shading 571 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: and it made sense to me finally. 572 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: And cross hatching and all that stuff and. 573 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: Whatever that is. Sure, yeah, but he was kind of 574 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: doing it and I'm like, oh my god, it is 575 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: It's just all about just shading in a fence. 576 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: Who paint shade? Everything is a shade. If you draw up, 577 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: you're actually just putting in the shading. 578 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, the shading makes it three D in religious. 579 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: I know a book, it's like drawing with the whatever 580 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: side of your brand. 581 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: So like, but that just didn't you to do it up. 582 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 2: So you only look at the light source. That's all 583 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: you're doing. 584 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: Never looked at the fact that from perspective until he 585 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: told me that, I'm like. 586 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: Oh, that's painting it by section. 587 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 588 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: I love, I just I love I love learning about 589 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: that because that, to me is the same way. Like 590 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: I just it's inconceivable to understand how certain things are made. 591 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: And then you started and you start looking at the 592 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: world differently too, because like you look at your faces 593 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: and everyone else like, yeah, the shadow there is that. 594 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: I'll look at hair highlights. Oh yeah, that would be 595 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: the thing where you keep it white. 596 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, just white, right, the littles. 597 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: Going up exactly. It's cool. 598 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: See, maybe I missed my calling. If I would have 599 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: known that earlier, I could have the next you could 600 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: have been successful. 601 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: Too bad. 602 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: Never, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna pick that up. Okay, 603 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to teach me. You're gonna sing and dance, 604 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna actually, he is a great singer dancer. 605 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: Let's and you can be a guy's role rehearsal Okay, Okay, done, 606 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: We do that all the time. 607 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: Only only in Penhalse only. 608 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: I'm surprised you haven't noticed. 609 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: You know, you're Batman Batman. 610 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah nice, there's the dumbest thing, bro. So when we 611 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: used to do the Universal Studios performances, oh yeah, which 612 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: was awesome. Man. You get paid fifty grand each for 613 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: like an hour. But then I would go to all 614 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: the shops and I would try to find a head 615 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: like you know, like so I found like an Iron 616 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: Man one, a storm Trooper one. I was very dumbly bought. 617 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: But you know, I enjoy that sounds like Joey Fatone, 618 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: very yeah, very bad like that. 619 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Man is so funny. He collects all kinds of stuff 620 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: like that. I mean he's a big super superman, is 621 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: his dude. But then he started collecting guitars from you know, 622 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: big guitarists, and which is a great I mean he 623 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: has his collection all over the wall, signed by everyone, 624 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: right arrows a queen, I mean just everyone. And I 625 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: remember it was uh yeah, Jean uh Simmons, who Jean 626 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: Simmons is one of the smartest business men I know, right, 627 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: And it's just like he knows what it made merch everything, 628 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: like it's whatever. So you know, Joey asked for guitar, 629 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: just collection. Sure, Joey sure sends the guitar with with 630 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: a note saying, okay, just make the checkout to blah 631 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Yeah okay, which I thought was genius. 632 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, you've been making pay for that, Jean giving 633 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: that guitar away. 634 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: From sending the guitar. 635 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: That's hilarious. Oh god, Well, I won't even know what 636 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: was that? What was the ballpark? 637 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I mean I would imagine it's 638 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: around twenty grand. Yeah, I'd like, yeah, but that's what 639 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: he can do. 640 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: Is just take the guitar, Just take a lamin of 641 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: the autograph. 642 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm good guitar. Oh god? Speaking of other musicians, 643 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: are there any musicians that you would love to collaborate with? 644 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 3: Man, you know, I've kind of always the weird thing 645 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: I think with music is that like the collapse that 646 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 3: you never thought really would work kind of always creates 647 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: something really interesting. Oh man, I don't know who I. 648 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: Mean or who are you? Actually? What are what are 649 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: you listening to? Right now? Who do who? Who would 650 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: you recommend that work? 651 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: And so I'm like, you know, sometimes I go to 652 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 3: these like stages where you know, as I said, I 653 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: grew up going to warp tours. Right, there's a band 654 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: called I Think bear Tooth that I've been listening to 655 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 3: lately that's totally like reminds me of early two thousands 656 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: bands warped towards rock and roll kind of things. Man, dude, 657 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 3: it's oh oh wait, no, who have I been drumming? Okay, 658 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: so drumm and bass. The genre just really gotten into 659 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: the way that everything is. And there's a artist by 660 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: the name, uh sub Focus, super cool. What's that one song? 661 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: And you guys should listen to if you haven't found 662 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: I found you by Focus, super good, super melodic. I 663 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: don't know, man, I like I said, I think it's 664 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: I think, uh the weirdest mashups either produce something really 665 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 3: cool or something really funny, and so either way it's entertaining. 666 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: Well, so maybe weird. Al Yankovic, Wait, did you always 667 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: like always think? He passed away? 668 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: Literally everything you died. 669 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 3: I felt like there was an article that came out 670 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 3: not dead, not dead, I'm still here. 671 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: Was there anyone in this industry that was a particularly 672 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: positive influence on your career, acting or music. 673 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: Oh man, oh, and there's a lot of people. I 674 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 3: can't think of the top, but like I always appreciated 675 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 3: meeting people that were successful. Was still really nice when 676 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: being Taylor Swift. 677 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: I think you guys know she loved you guys. 678 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: Dude. Well she was so sweet, so so sweet. 679 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: Because she yell out on the twenty fifteen tour, right yeah. 680 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah man, that yeah, was that crazy? 681 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 3: That was awesome. It was funny because we had a 682 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: radio show the day before and I think we were 683 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: trying to figure it out. In like the night before 684 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: we had figured out the travel situation. So we did 685 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: that radio show in the afternoon and then flew to 686 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: Gillette Stadium. So cool, man, so cool. So you did 687 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: a lot of the stadiums you do when you do 688 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: a House of Blues and you go to the stadium, 689 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: it's it's night and day. You can't hear anything to 690 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: begin with. 691 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: No, And I was I think I asked Malcolm this 692 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: question last week. Uh, that first stadium moment you can 693 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: never get out of your head because I remember our 694 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: first one was Jenna Jackson's Belvel Rope tour and at 695 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: the Silver Domond Detroit and you just want to be 696 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: stage and you just get these like goosebumps that just 697 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: never go away. 698 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just insane you're still here, that they're still here. Dude, 699 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: I will never forget. Uh, there's so many moment and god, man, 700 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 3: I love I'm so grateful Malcolm came into my life 701 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: because he's just a awesome person and somebody I really cherish. 702 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 3: And there's just so many great memories we have. And 703 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 3: there was that time to where you know, she's about 704 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: to announce whoever's coming, and and we are on this 705 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 3: elevator thing, right, So it's in the back of the 706 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: stage and elevator and Malcolm and I are looking at 707 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 3: each other backstage like I can't hear you. I can't 708 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: hear you. I go, this is an awesome He's like, 709 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 3: this is super awesome. It was just a high man high. 710 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: And then but what's great about having that friend? I mean, 711 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: your it's your brother for life. Only you too, Only 712 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: you two will understand that you're the only ones that 713 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: will actually understand what that feels like. 714 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 3: And we're both adopted. Yeah, dude, uh yeah, yeah, it's 715 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: it's it's a yeah, but it's it's man, dude, Yeah, 716 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: I don't even know how to describe it, but super awesome. 717 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 3: Super It was the one time where I definitely was like, 718 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: I don't care if I sound good or not, I'm 719 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 3: gonna take this in and it was super super cool. 720 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 3: And then that I never forget. 721 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: What I love about a Taylor Swift concert is everyone 722 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: is in such a good mood. There's just everyone yeah, 723 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I mean. 724 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 3: And the thing is, though, is I have yet to 725 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 3: meet somebody who's been on that tour and not said 726 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: anything incredible. 727 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I've never met anybody that's actually said 728 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: anything bad about her, that actually knows her. 729 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, we got we got christall 730 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: or no Don Perryon. I say, that's so southern man. 731 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 3: King of the Hill is no, did she got? So? 732 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 3: She got us a bottle of Don Perryon. I met 733 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 3: her mom while she was walking one of. 734 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 5: Her dogs, which is the most beautiful dog ever, And dude, yeah, 735 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 5: I mean it was just that's you get that same 736 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 5: energy and and I hope a lot of successful artists 737 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 5: see how she does it because as a whole in 738 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 5: the way it functions is a very positive thing to 739 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 5: see him in that kind. 740 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 3: Of environment where a lot of the times it's not 741 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: you know, done like. 742 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: That, and it's importunate and you see both sides. And 743 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of artists that do this and they're great, 744 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: but then there's a lot of artists that just don't 745 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: know what the hell they don't. 746 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: Care true, and a lot of people think like you 747 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: have to be an asshole basically in order to be 748 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: to get to that level. But Taylor Swift is the 749 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: most successful artist in the world, and she proves that 750 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: you do not have to be nasty be successful. 751 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: And Jackson, I mean, there's so many great examples of 752 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: people that just come off towards me like, wow, that 753 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: was the best thing ever there. 754 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you want to go right back on it. 755 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: And it must be especially for Taylor these days. It 756 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: must take so much energy to not make mistakes r 757 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: because everyone's gonna make mistakes. But in her case, she's like, Okay, 758 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: one little thing could just really destroy everything I've worked 759 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: for because people are just wanting her to fail, Like 760 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: there's so many people just wanting her to do something, 761 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: but so far she has it. It's crazy. 762 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 3: And I mean, there was a big hurdle with the 763 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 3: music stuff when she recorded herself. Oh yeah, I mean 764 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: I think that that was that That to me is 765 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 3: someone that's seen a situation like that, and I'm sure 766 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 3: you guys have as well. Obviously that was like, good 767 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 3: for you, that's awesome, man. 768 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: So one thing I loved also, you know at the show, 769 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: even the all the security, all the concession stand people, 770 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: everyone taking your tickets whatever, smiling, dancing, getting people's bracelets 771 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: and trading bracelets with everyone. It was I mean, it 772 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: was just it was a beautiful thing. It was like 773 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: everyone for three hours was just living a wonderful, positive life. 774 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: It was it was beautiful. Yeah. Now, you have worked 775 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: hard and dedicated yourself to your career, and you know 776 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: there has been tough ties. We just went through COVID, 777 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: we're going through this SAG strike right now. So can 778 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: you give us a tip a frosted tip o? What 779 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: keeps you motivated during tough times? 780 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: Oh? Good question, good question. Motivated. I think if you've 781 00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 3: gotten to a even if you have it, there's something 782 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 3: in the way you kind of mentioned goosebumps, right, So 783 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 3: to a certain extent, I feel like as long as 784 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: you're oh man, this is a tough one. Staying motiv it. 785 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: Let me think multi I think a. 786 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 3: Good way to respond to this first, it's admitting that 787 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough, admitting that you know right now 788 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 3: there's not much you can do, being content with that, 789 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: and not letting it swallow you whole. 790 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: Uh. 791 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 3: It's it was the what's the one thing these these 792 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 3: days soon will pass? Or you know, if it's you 793 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 3: gotta if you if you sit on a if you 794 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: sit on a thought, it's that negative, especially in situations 795 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 3: where you don't have necessarily an end date of when 796 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 3: this would stop. Uh, just setting yourself up for a 797 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 3: morbid thought process. 798 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, you negative, and but also. 799 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 3: Speaking openly about that and being honest about that. Maybe 800 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 3: one person sees and goes, okay, he's not bullshit. I 801 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 3: feel the same way. So I guess that's Is there. 802 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: A person that you like to confide in? Is it 803 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: a family member, is it a best friend? 804 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 3: Oh man? 805 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 1: Or do you just talk to yourself? 806 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 807 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: Most of the times. 808 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can tell you if you can talk to yourself, 809 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 3: you know, if you can have a conversation with yourself, Honestly, 810 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 3: I think that only makes it a positive thing. If 811 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 3: you're talking about with others, because at the end of 812 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 3: the day, you're not gonna always have that person talking. 813 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 3: But that meditation, I actually really strongly believe in meditation 814 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 3: or just doing some breathing exercises. Uh, what is it 815 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 3: where you well you're stucking with your mouth and you 816 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 3: bought with your nose, your nose and your mouth or whatever. 817 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 3: But you got three times for a certain amount of time, 818 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: you'll feel almost a natural, natural height. Yeah, yeah, and 819 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 3: just a calming thing. 820 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: And a lot of the times people don't take deep 821 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 1: enough breasts. I mean you go way down in there 822 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: and and if you have trouble going to sleep, and 823 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: which I do and Michael does, I'm telling you meditation. 824 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: Last night we went to bed immediately. 825 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: It was it was actually kind of weird. 826 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: And it's the breathing if you get. 827 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 3: I learned it therapy. Therapy is where I learned a 828 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 3: lot of that stuff. Yeah, I still stand by that. 829 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 3: That's something that should be way more open about. 830 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's a that's a good one itself. 831 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: Therapy and therapy was such a stigma. I mean even 832 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: ten years ago, people would admit they're going, you know, 833 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: to therapy but now it's the cool thing. It's like 834 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: we all talk to some people. 835 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 3: I love it that it's a cool thing. And I 836 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 3: hope it isn't from that abused in a certain extent 837 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 3: because there's there's an honesty with therapy and it's not 838 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 3: necessarily something where you do therapy you have to go 839 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 3: out the next and saying oh I learned this, I 840 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 3: learned that. It's just the process. 841 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know, I think digest whatever's happened, and 842 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: just to remind yourself we forget. Yeah, so just getting 843 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 1: that like oh yeah, oh yeah, I need to breathe. Oh, 844 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: just just being reminded. 845 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: You know, there's something somebody told me a long time ago, 846 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 3: or it was and this is for depression, which I'm 847 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 3: very open about. I'm always fighting that thing. But you know, 848 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 3: there's a couple of things you can ask yourself every day. 849 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 3: A did you wake up? Okay, you're better than half 850 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 3: the people in the world probably or whoever you know unfortunately, 851 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 3: you know, do you have a house over your head? 852 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 3: Do you have a roof over your head? Ye? There's 853 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 3: a lot of things you can It's easy for someone 854 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 3: to pinpoint negatives, but it's a lot more therapeutic to 855 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 3: realize the positives. 856 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 857 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 858 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: I always like telling people like, think about this, Think 859 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: about how how much of a miracle had to happen 860 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: for you to be here right now? Oh yeah, I'm 861 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: talking about hundreds of years ago. Things had to have 862 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 1: happened perfectly for you to be here right now. If 863 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: you're a great great grandmother took a left instead of 864 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: a right, you wouldn't be here. And then all of 865 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: a sudden you're fighting all the other little sperm going 866 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: into the egg over there, and so you one of 867 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: that's one of billions. 868 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 3: So it's like just like that, that to me is 869 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 3: like the biggest I'm baffled by that. I go down 870 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 3: a rabbit hole, right because I'm like, okay, so you're 871 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 3: going to go even deeper on that. It's what put 872 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 3: the world here? What put the universe? What put that 873 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 3: star there? Okay, we discovered this, but what put that there? Like, 874 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 3: I think that the one question always trusts me out 875 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 3: is you can ask it this throughout whatever you question, 876 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 3: but you say, what where did that originate? It goes 877 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 3: down a rabbit hole. And I'm hoping that we get 878 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 3: to a point where, you know, maybe maybe a UFO visits. 879 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, but apparentlyarently they are. 880 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 3: I know they watched it, dude. I watched the Senate hearing. 881 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: I watched. 882 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm but why. 883 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: Are people talking about that. It's so weird that we 884 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 1: kind of have confirmation from the government. But yeah, we're like, 885 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: oh okay. 886 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,439 Speaker 3: It's it's so weird because it's the way they went 887 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 3: about it, right, Okay, yeah, so okay, it is happening, 888 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 3: but we're going to change it from UFO to change 889 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 3: the acronym. 890 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so it's different, and now people don't care 891 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 2: and it's weird. 892 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 3: Dude, it's such a yeah, such, but I'm fascinated by it. 893 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: But they actually they confirm their terrestrial bodies. 894 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 2: Another saying, like in Peru, this small town in Peru 895 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: claiming being like terrorized by these seven tall aliens. Yes 896 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 2: they have recently. Yes, this little town are like, there's 897 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 2: apparently that's the newest thing. I'search because what. 898 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 3: Did you did you ever see the documentary in South 899 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 3: Africa of the children's school. No, okay, watch watch that. 900 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 3: There's a documentary about it. It's just an entire faculty 901 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 3: describing what happened and on top of that, they have 902 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 3: the pictures that the kids drew from that time, reinterviewed 903 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 3: as adults and the stuff they draw. But everything is corroborated. Yeah, 904 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 3: it's a weird. 905 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: Word, cob corroborate or collaborated. 906 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, yeah, I feel like that's where 907 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 3: but no, watch that. It's super interesting because I mean 908 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 3: this was adults who are now in their you know, 909 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 3: elder years, and the kids that are now in their 910 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 3: adult years. Everything is the It's trippy. 911 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: Is so trippy. I love that kind of stuff. I 912 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: love the conspiracy theory. You know. Oh man, I don't 913 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: you know. I'm not one of those conspiracy theorists that 914 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: go out and like really believe, you know, but like 915 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: it's fun to. 916 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 3: Research them and pretending I'm curious of the unknown. 917 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 1: What's your favorite tattoo? I see that you have sleeves 918 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: going on here. Do you have a favorite? 919 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 3: Uh? 920 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: How do you shootings? Dude? Is it like everyone before? 921 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: You're like, I like that. 922 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 3: Young and drunk and dumb, and you know, like I think, Uh, 923 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 3: we're in Australia and you know, uh, super super intoxicated. 924 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 925 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 3: But it was fun and we all decided me and 926 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 3: like two guys from the label. I think somebody else 927 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,280 Speaker 3: all went and got the h I love the kangaro 928 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I'm just like, where the hell does 929 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 3: that fit? Like none of these really fit. I mean, 930 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 3: I have my hand one removed. 931 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: I'll show you. This is the one I got in Australia. 932 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh god, what is it? 933 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: The Southern Cross? 934 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: What? 935 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Stars of the Southern Cross. 936 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 3: Oh cool. That had to hurt though you're on your 937 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,280 Speaker 3: Actually everyone was saying yeah, it's gonna but didn't. 938 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: Hurt it all. But again, I was in Australia and 939 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: properly drunk. 940 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 3: Drunk, so I couldn't even get mine finished. I had 941 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 3: a god awful one. My buddy who does DJ now 942 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 3: his name's Ultron. He used to do do tattoos occasionally 943 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 3: and he did one of my fun and I was 944 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 3: definitely drunk, and I was just like, I can't, I can't. 945 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 3: I'd had all of my had on my ridge, couldn't 946 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 3: do it. 947 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: It was just so yeah, the worst one for me. 948 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: And I wasn't even there to get a tattoo. My 949 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: friend was, and I was, you know, watching him, and 950 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: they're like, do you want something like, actually, I've always 951 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: wanted like a tear drop here on my fingers, that 952 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: little bit it was. It's like someone took I would never. 953 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 3: I would never, I would I would immediately go Lance, 954 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 3: that's a tear drop. Yeah, yeah, it's the other you go. 955 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: I just got to do it like that. But man, 956 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: that hurt. Oh my gosh, that hurts so much. So 957 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: outside of your career, what what are the hobbies you 958 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 1: like to do? Like what keeps you I don't know, 959 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: get your mind off of the deep stuff. 960 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 3: Oh man, uh, I'm always thinking the deep stuff, MANU. 961 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 3: I'm I'm, I'm like, I love I you know, I'm 962 00:47:53,520 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 3: I love the exploration of something out in the Yeah, 963 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I I'll end up, you know, spending my 964 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 3: time just watching U crazy documentaries. I am a documentary 965 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 3: buff good. I that's that's like I love them. A 966 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 3: lot of them that are super stupid, but man, it's 967 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 3: just interesting. 968 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: And I love doc I mean, I'm a doc filmmaker 969 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,760 Speaker 1: and it's one of my it's my passion. It's my love. 970 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: Because you make no money off of them, but I 971 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: keep doing them because I just I love it. And 972 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen boy Band KHN when I did 973 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: for YouTube. Watch that one because as a musician, that one, 974 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, because it's about Lou Pearlman, the guy 975 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: who you know put us through everything. 976 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's that's a good documentary. 977 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: It's eye opening for sure for any artist out there. 978 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 3: I am, I am. I'm watching that tonight. 979 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 1: All right. Uh, Now, you've been pretty open about your 980 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: mental health on your social media. Give us some tips 981 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: for people who are in a dark place. And besides 982 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 1: like therapy and everything, is there any tools that you 983 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: use to kind of snap you out of dark thought 984 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:00,720 Speaker 1: that you're having. 985 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 3: Oh man, Uh, you gotta be uh first, you gotta 986 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 3: If you just try to push it down, it gets worse. 987 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 3: So I would say, you gotta first off, understand that 988 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 3: you're thinking of it for a reason. You need to 989 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 3: explore what that reason is. And there's really anything. I mean, 990 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 3: that's the other thing I love, like I've for some 991 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 3: reason but on this like like I said, documentarys, random documentors, 992 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 3: but I've watched a lot of like hospice documentaries, right. 993 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 3: And the reason why I say that is this is 994 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 3: a you are seeing in the eyes of somebody else 995 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,439 Speaker 3: the universe and of their life. You're hearing what they 996 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 3: have to say, and they're you know, always going to 997 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 3: be more knowledgeable in my opinion, then you know somebody 998 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 3: that's far away from it. And I think seeing that 999 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 3: kind of stuff and seeing the relationships that people have 1000 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 3: h makes you more grateful when it's over or when 1001 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 3: you're in that situation. So that's why I do it. 1002 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 3: But I, like I said, I kind of I always 1003 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 3: think it's important to be honest about it, Yeah, because 1004 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 3: it's it's it's not something that just goes away. 1005 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: You know. 1006 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,879 Speaker 3: If you want to watch a happy movie, you know, yeah, 1007 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 3: you'll think about the half movie, but right afterwards're gonna 1008 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 3: go right back to that yeah way of thinking. 1009 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: All right, we have some fan questions for you. Did 1010 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,240 Speaker 1: you ever learn the classic TikTok dance? 1011 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 3: I did? I did it really bad? Really bad? Yeah. 1012 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 3: I was baffled. I was baffled by that. 1013 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: I think we have to try this. I need to 1014 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: find the classic TikTok I think we do. 1015 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 2: You have another question that was askeley GB, and then 1016 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 2: we have another question from GB from Emily Gross nineteen 1017 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 2: ninety Do you prefer acting or singing? And is there 1018 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 2: any chance you would want to do a music. 1019 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: Oh would you go to Broadway? Oh? 1020 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,399 Speaker 3: Man, dude, I start? I definitely did I start? Well? 1021 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 3: Was it? I always love theater. I definitely did a 1022 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 3: lot of, like, you know, musicals and stuff growing up. Yeah, man, 1023 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:03,919 Speaker 3: I I don't know which. I think it goes back 1024 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 3: to I love music because depending on how you go 1025 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 3: about it, you have a little bit more creativity. Acting 1026 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 3: you're reading something somebody's drugging. But I think there's something 1027 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 3: beautiful with that. Musical is a funny story about musicals. Man. 1028 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:25,240 Speaker 6: So when I was sixteen seventeen, I was flown out 1029 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 6: to do screen test for high school musical whatever the 1030 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 6: last one was, and. 1031 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 3: Did it with Kenny Ortega. We did that whole thing 1032 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 3: and it was it was really cool. Didn't get it, 1033 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 3: but it was still an awesome experience. But yeah, I 1034 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:43,959 Speaker 3: think I'll do whatever. 1035 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: Let me give you three Broadway shows and you have 1036 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: to pick the one that you would join up. You 1037 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: got three offers covered right now, right now. One is 1038 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: to do the lead in Chicago, one is to do 1039 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: the lead in Hamilton, and one is to doe to 1040 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: the lead in Hairspray. Which Broadway show would you do? 1041 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 3: I do Chicago. I love Chicago in high school. 1042 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it. 1043 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 3: Billy Billy, Billy Finn, Yeah yeah, Billy Glynn. 1044 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, that would be man so good. And the 1045 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: way they made that film too, that is just. 1046 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 2: That was like the best adaptation of a musical. 1047 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 3: Film still does really well. I mean, do they still 1048 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:23,720 Speaker 3: do it on Broadway? 1049 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1050 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never ending. 1051 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was wondering. 1052 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,839 Speaker 1: That's got to be a amazing phantom just in it. 1053 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: It was the longest running and it just stopped. 1054 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 2: I mean every year there's like a new Real Housewives 1055 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 2: in Chicago. 1056 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: I have, Yes, Well, it was so amazing to get 1057 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: to know you. Uh, congratulations all your success. You are 1058 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: definitely one of the best storytellers that we've had on 1059 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 1: the show. 1060 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,479 Speaker 3: So audible and I'm here from nine to five. 1061 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 2: Great. 1062 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: How can all your fans keep in touch with you? 1063 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 3: Man? You know, I'm hardly on the social media these days, 1064 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 3: but man, I'm on Instagram occasionally follow But yeah, man, 1065 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 3: it's awesome talking to you all. I appreciate you too 1066 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 3: reaching out man, and I wish you both nothing but love. 1067 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: Likewise, likewise, Tony, it has been great getting to know 1068 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: you and definitely have to have you back on to 1069 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:19,959 Speaker 1: have a little follow up. 1070 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I'll switch out to Batman for something else. 1071 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: Done and done, and I'm gonna work on that solo 1072 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: thing for you. 1073 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 2: Because I love it. 1074 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: We do magic. I love it all right, good to see. 1075 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 3: Thank you guys, appreciate it. 1076 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: Man, Am I gonna say. 1077 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 2: We're gonna say it again? 1078 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: Are we really gonna say? 1079 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 2: It was so nice? 1080 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,919 Speaker 1: Like great storyteller, I'm telling you on my little notes 1081 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: right here. Best story tell we've had, yes, and we've 1082 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: had some good story has some good Yeah. But he's 1083 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: about it personality. I know. I love when people are 1084 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: very open about their struggles with the pussion and all that, 1085 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: because all of us deal with this, even sometimes when 1086 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,879 Speaker 1: you don't think you're like, oh wait a minute, oh yeah, 1087 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: uh so I'm so happy that, you know, he he 1088 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: does talk about it publicly because I know people listening 1089 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: right now are like, oh yeah, I. 1090 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 2: Really And it's a good reminder, you know, like what 1091 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 2: he said, like we just focus on like what you 1092 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 2: do have, And for me, that's the best thing. When 1093 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm feeling so down or depressed about something like my 1094 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 2: world's ending, I just think about well, okay, wop, I 1095 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 2: woke up in a lovely home. I have my children, family, food, 1096 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 2: like the basic things of life I'm not worrying about. 1097 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: So we all have a lot to be lucky. 1098 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 2: So the grand scheme of things, Yeah, you just put 1099 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 2: things in perspective and it really helps. Those are my 1100 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 2: two stands. 1101 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 1: Oh, I love your two cents, and maybe there are 1102 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: times and your nickels and Yours'll stop it? Guys, all right, 1103 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 1: is there anything else you would like to tell our 1104 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 1: little peanuts before we leave them? 1105 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,720 Speaker 2: Does that we love you and appreciate all you listening. 1106 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 1: Yes, And don't forget to breathe like FokI says. 1107 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 2: Like breathe, well, yeah, don't forget to breathe in general, 1108 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,439 Speaker 2: because you'll die. But but when you do breathe, make 1109 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 2: them count. 1110 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: Yes, and and breathe deep. I'm telling us much better. 1111 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't breathe deep enough. I get 1112 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: down there. 1113 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 2: You've got to breathe deep and hold that breath for 1114 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 2: a few seconds and let it out transform your mind. 1115 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,399 Speaker 1: All right, guys, Well, now that I'm falling asleep, let's 1116 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 1: get out of here, because that is all the show 1117 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: I have for you. Thank you so much for listening. 1118 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: Be good to each other out there, don't drink and drive, 1119 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 1: take care of all those animals, yes, and remember say hey, 1120 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. 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