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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dalks. Look at this now. Tip to Tim.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat Lucky number thirteen. It's the thirteenth

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Speaker 2: of July twenty twenty two, and it is time for

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. Hello everyone, I am merely one half of

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Speaker 2: your hosting duo. I join you for the capital of

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Speaker 2: Status Needles right here in Washington, DC, joined by boy.

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Speaker 2: Look at that sullen faced zero to my left. Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: He's back. He was missing on Monday, but he's back

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Speaker 2: for Wednesday show. He's my buddy, he's your buddy. He's

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Speaker 2: the world's buddy. He's also the King of Connecticut. It's

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell. What's up, dude?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke, I'm back. I'm also back with a bang.

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Speaker 3: And while I certainly certainly like to extend a high

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Speaker 3: a bron They can fill in, Luke. They can do

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Speaker 3: their best to make MK with no BC feel like

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Speaker 3: feel like a house. But he surely didn't feel like

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Speaker 3: a home on Monday. Luke you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Home sweet home, and I'm talking about Holly, of course.

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Speaker 3: But I'm back, baby, and trust me, yeah, I'm back

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Speaker 3: all right now.

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Speaker 2: I have to say, even though I'm the one who

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Speaker 2: contracted or contacted I should say, or whatever the fucking words.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know anymore all of the communicable diseases

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Speaker 3: I feel bad. I'm on day ten of this post

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Speaker 3: but but I do feel like shit, and I certainly

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Speaker 2: Well, glad to have you, happy that you're here. We

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Speaker 2: because BC is here, we do the BC Special, so

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Speaker 2: this shit. I look forward to that. I'm sure he's

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Speaker 2: got a ton of stuff for us. But I got

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Speaker 2: great shit.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing I got, Looke, I got so much shit, right,

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Speaker 2: Let's see, we have to get to the big fights

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Speaker 2: this weekend you have seen on ABC three is back

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Speaker 2: this weekend. We'll talk about that. We'll react to Nate

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Speaker 2: Eerie Prahatschka saying he wants Glover and now Yon next.

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Speaker 2: A lot of stuff to get to. So if you're

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Speaker 2: listening to your favorite podcast platform, which we appreciate just

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Speaker 2: the same. Leave us a nice review. Now, BC, I

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Speaker 2: heard your conversation with r J Dunkle Donut just before

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Speaker 3: Way, did you catch that shot he took at me?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that motherfucker he like. I think he's

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Speaker 2: But yeah, because what he said was I can either

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Speaker 2: but not both. With that in mind, BC, we do

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Speaker 2: have merch that pleases you. Why don't you tell the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta. I'm rock hard with emotion over this, Luke.

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Speaker 3: I do have a phoner. Indeed, you know what we

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Speaker 3: really applies to our brand in general. Luke, you know

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Speaker 3: what MK is all about, real talk like men do

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Speaker 3: exactly now, we got that on a shirt. Finally, go

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Speaker 3: to Morning Coombat Dot store right now, the call here's

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Speaker 3: where RJ did well. By the way, Okay, the design, yes,

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Speaker 3: the rainbow, Luke, when it comes to collars, right, you

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Speaker 3: we launched one of our best pieces of content ever,

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Speaker 3: Room Service Diaries two point zero Michael Kisa. You can

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Speaker 3: com slash Morning Combat. You know I wore the very

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Speaker 3: That that or Ariel's double breasted suit at the Showtime

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Speaker 3: What do you think about Kisa call in your vape

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Speaker 3: And to close. You can get all this merchant more

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Speaker 3: Why don't you come on down? Want you step to this,

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Speaker 3: He's like, BC, keep that same energy when he talked

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Speaker 2: And he certainly did. Yes. Also Morning Combat at gmail

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Speaker 2: dot com for fan subs for Dead Wrong or just

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Speaker 2: feeling better than I have in a while. BC. I

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Speaker 3: put it in whatever you want, Luke. Look, I put

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Speaker 3: It tastes clean, Luke. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: I just I feel terrible for Josh Hammitt because I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, markets, you're gonna lose that marketing battle at the

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Speaker 3: Dude, no, some gave, some gave all on that one.

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Speaker 3: against Emmett's chances online, even though I tend like you

430
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 3: end of the day, even if I'm leaning for emotional

431
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,399
Speaker 3: reasons at times, God, Emmett's earned it. You know, he

432
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 3: gave all to get here, like I mentioned, So I'm

433
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 3: going to back him getting the next shot if asked,

434
00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,719
Speaker 3: you know, for whatever that's worth. But fans don't believe,

435
00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,880
Speaker 3: or not all of them believe that he'd beat Cater.

436
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 3: In fact, some people still think. You know, the Burgos

437
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,640
Speaker 3: fight was close enough to argue, do you think that

438
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 3: factors in a lot to like not everybody coming on

439
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 3: board and embracing Josh Emma in his case and his

440
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 3: cause up to this point.

441
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 2: The Cater fight, certainly the result is debatable. I wouldn't

442
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 2: challenge that the Burgos fight is not challengeable. That's an

443
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,199
Speaker 2: Emmet win pretty cleanly, in my book, I don't know

444
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 2: why anyone would go to the mat for that. I don't.

445
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't think that makes a lot of sense.

446
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,719
Speaker 3: Well, close fight, close competitive fight, you know what I mean?

447
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I mean, don't get me wrong, But wasn't

448
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 2: like Burgos got completely smashed or something like that. But

449
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,919
Speaker 2: it's not the Cater fight. You can definitely, look, I

450
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 2: thought Cater won that one. To be to be candid,

451
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: but I understand why Emmett won it as well, and

452
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 2: so you know, you disagree with the judges, and that's

453
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 2: just kind of how it goes. Close fight could have

454
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 2: gone either way something like that. But like, you know,

455
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,880
Speaker 2: this whole argument about like who would do better against Volkanovski, Dude,

456
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 2: if you think, listen, who the hell knows? None of

457
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 2: us can predict the future. And certainly Emmett is a

458
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 2: heavy heavy puncher, and yeah, here is a dynamic striker.

459
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna predict or bet that either of

460
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 2: those guys would beat Volkanovsky, I'm like, what is it

461
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 2: gonna take for some of y'all to realize there probably

462
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 2: isn't a featherweight on Earth who's gonna give Volkanovsky a

463
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: hard time, right, I mean, Brian or take it got

464
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 2: kind of close with some of those submission attempt or whatever,

465
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 2: but you know, Volkanovsky went right back into them to

466
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 2: prove a point. Now, on his best day, there isn't

467
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 2: a featherweight on Earth who's going to hold a candle

468
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 2: to him. It's not really about that at all. It's

469
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: about you know, which guy is more deserving. And here's

470
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 2: the other part too, BC and media too. It's not

471
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 2: just fans media. Two. There's a lot of times a

472
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 2: guy could be well liked and very popular and that

473
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,959
Speaker 2: will tend to booey people's perceptions of how well they

474
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 2: could do against x or y challenge. Right. Emmett doesn't

475
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: get the benefit of having a ton of fans booie

476
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: his status as somebody capable of doing something great, and

477
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: it's very I say this all the time, like go

478
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 2: back to Patty Pimblet. Patty Pimblet is not a bad

479
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 2: fighter by any stretch of the imagination, but he is,

480
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: despite having a lot of experience at least I still think,

481
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 2: somewhat green, and is developing on a different timeline than

482
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: a lot of other guys. People are letting the popularity

483
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: of what he is drive to an extent where they

484
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: think the matchmaking should be, which does not match up

485
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: with where he actually is. It's a clear case of

486
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 2: the fan fervor booying somebody to a place that he

487
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,679
Speaker 2: wouldn't necessarily go. I think you're getting a different, similar

488
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 2: version of that with Theia Rodriguez.

489
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Speaker 3: Yes, strong aggressive use of booie there, but I do

490
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 3: think your points match up quick, Devil's advocates sort of

491
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 3: fire back at you. I don't want to continue to

492
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 3: pave the path with bad luck here for Josh Emmett.

493
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 3: But is there a path for Brian or Tega to

494
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 3: like spectacularly submit y ear where you're just like, oh shit,

495
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 3: or take a level backup? Do you run back the

496
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 3: rematch of Ortega and Volkanowski because the first fight, even

497
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 3: though in the end more one sided, then sometimes the emotions,

498
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 3: let us let us remember, had spectacular dramatic moments in it.

499
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 3: Does here's an Emmett lose out twice here, Luke, I.

500
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: Mean, okay, so my thought is if Ortega win, I mean,

501
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: either of these guys should really not like, should not

502
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: be fighting for a title. I don't in my view,

503
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: But okay, well, you're asking what was likely to happen

504
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: independent of whatever the hell I think. I think if

505
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 2: Ortega goes in there and ekes out a win, for sure,

506
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna make the Emmet fight, right, they'll do

507
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: Ortega versus Emmett. But if Ortega goes in there and

508
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 2: then just blows the doors off of your ear, which

509
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 2: I don't see likely, but certainly he is capable of

510
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 2: greatness as well. Let's be very clear about that. If

511
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: he goes in there and just blows the doors of him, like,

512
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: bangs him around on the feet, and then submits him

513
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: with some incredible thing without hardly taking a punch, I

514
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 2: think he does. I think he probably does get a

515
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 2: title of shot. The fans love Brian Ortega too. He

516
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: is also very talented. He's thirty one, he should be

517
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: coming into his physical prime at this point. You know,

518
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: he's got a lot of reasons why he could be

519
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: favored over Emmett. Now again, you might argue be seen,

520
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: and I'd be curious to get your perspective on this.

521
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: I tend to think that if Ortega wins, a title

522
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: shot is possible. But my real thought is if Ortego wins,

523
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: it's a showdown with Emmett. In either case, what do

524
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: you make.

525
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 3: I I was gonna bring that up because I didn't

526
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: know if you had said that in error or you

527
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 3: meant that that's interesting. I don't agree with it. So

528
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: you think if Ortega should be yeah, year, but not

529
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 3: kick your TV screen over to do it, they'll make well,

530
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: so here's the deal. Though, then that's sort of forcing Volkanovsky.

531
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: Are you saying because of Volkanovsky's injury, that's essentially what

532
00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: you're saying then.

533
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean, I guess what I'm saying is

534
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 2: if or Tega doesn't take a big beating right where

535
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: it's he's you know, relatively unscathed, we know Volkanovski's gonna

536
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: be out for probably three months or more. Yeah, Okay,

537
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, kind of line.

538
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, fact factoring in the Champs injury that does swing

539
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: it back where that's that is a smart call, and

540
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 3: you know what it would answer, like, I want to

541
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: want Josh s Hamman to have to go through another

542
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: fricking test where he potentially has to pour it out

543
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: and Luke or Tega makes you pour it out because

544
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 3: he's he meets you right in the middle of that

545
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: at deep end of the pool for better or worse,

546
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: and a lot of times I'm arguing, which I think

547
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 3: is part of how you how you're gonna handicap. This

548
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 3: Saturday's main event is is or Tega to in love

549
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: with the drama where he can't be in a fight

550
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 3: anymore against an elite guy without it getting ugly in

551
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: him having to sort of find a path to rally back,

552
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: like can he be as as in control of the

553
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: fight as Ortega was against the Korean zombie? Is that

554
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: more of a product of the difference in speed and footwork?

555
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: Kind of like some people say, don't get too high

556
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: on Volkanowski's knockout of Chance Ung Jung because look at

557
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 3: the difference, And I always said, no, look at the intention,

558
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: and you saw that by the way in the third

559
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: Max fight. Now you saw, Yes, this is the new

560
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: Alexander Volkanowski. Do we need to see a new Brian Ortega?

561
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: Luke?

562
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: Do we need to see a guy that goes back

563
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: to trying to control the terms of the fight more?

564
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: Well, I still somewhat disagree with that analysis, but that

565
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: putting that to the side.

566
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 3: No, why don't you dig into that. Why don't you

567
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: tell me what's wrong with that?

568
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: Luke? I do think you saw a different game plan

569
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: from Volkanowski, and I do think he is getting faster

570
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: and quicker with some intention. It's not like there's nothing

571
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: to it. But to me, the big difference of what

572
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: explains the Chance Ung Jung fight is just the discrepancy

573
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: and inability, like that was a much easier fight for

574
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: Volkanowski to win than it is to win against anyone else,

575
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: including Max.

576
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: So let me interrupt you right there then and say, Okay,

577
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 3: if that's true, then does that mean and this is harsh,

578
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: but does that mean that Brian Ortega look that great

579
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: against Korean Zombie because it's a step down and he

580
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: can't fight or win fights like that on the elite level,

581
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 3: so his only chance in the end is to do

582
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: something dramatic. Is that a harsh but fair take.

583
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: In the I see, I don't know how fair it is.

584
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 2: I think it's halfway fair. It is fair to me

585
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: to say that Korean Zombie the result that Ortega got

586
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: is partly a function of the fact that, yes, he

587
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: is a step down from Max and Volkanovsky by a

588
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: pretty significant degree, so that part, yes, I would agree. However,

589
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 2: and this is the part to me that's really kind

590
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: of interesting when everyone's kind of focusing on and we

591
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: started the show with it with the air of getting

592
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: promised a potential title shot, but the reality is this,

593
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: listen to this or Tega fought Let's see, let's let's

594
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: go back all the way to the beginning of the

595
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: UFC run. He fought in the UFC twice in twenty fourteen,

596
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: but only are twice in twenty fourteen total, but once

597
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen in the UFC, once in twenty fifteen,

598
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: twice in twenty sixteen, twice in twenty seventeen, twice in

599
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, didn't fight it all in twenty nineteen, fought

600
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: one time in twenty didn't fight at all, excuse me,

601
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: then fought again one time in twenty twenty one, and

602
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: this will be his first fight in twenty twenty two.

603
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: This guy has not had much experience, which is why

604
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: I think, Yes, he was in tough fights in Holloway

605
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: and Volkanovski, but showed I think flashes of brilliance there,

606
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: came back and beat the breaks off of Chansung Jung.

607
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: I guess the point I'm trying to make is in

608
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: the last four years he's only had excuse me, in

609
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: the last yeah, four years, he's only had four fights.

610
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: This will be his fifth fight in four years. That's

611
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: hardly any activity. Age thirty one. He has talked about

612
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: changing his methods and doing things more professionally and blah

613
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: blah blah, and you could say, well, he got his

614
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: ass kicked by Volkanowski despite some of the you know,

615
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: the brief moments of peril, which is true. But again,

616
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: Volkanowski's very very good, I mean, one of the best

617
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 2: fighters on it's not the best fighter on Earth. And

618
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: number two, I'm expecting like a bit of a level

619
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: up moment here for Brian Ortega, thirty one years old,

620
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: coming into his prime. He has fought the very best

621
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: that featherweight has to offer, gave him both a little

622
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: bit of trouble here and there. For sure, I think

623
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 2: you could argue against the air who is a very

624
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: very difficult dynamic striker, but certainly open to other kinds

625
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: of offense from his opponents. Given that sort of wide

626
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 2: open style that he has. Dude, there's a real possibility

627
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: that you mentioned or taking needs to level up more

628
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: than just need to. It might be inevitable, and it

629
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: might be in this contest where you see something like

630
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: that his maturation was kind of all at once and

631
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: then slowed down. I think in this version that we

632
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: might get on Saturday would be a real nice update

633
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: to everything he's been building kind of quietly.

634
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 3: I like the intention of what you're saying that you know,

635
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: not not could he benefit from it. He's going to

636
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: have to to get this win here, and it's probably

637
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: right Luke. And yeah, I mean, let's not forget there

638
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: was a two year injury gap in there off the

639
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: first Max fight. But I still think his the way

640
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: he fought against both Max and Volkanowski, it was a

641
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: little bit reckless and he and he had to take

642
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: on huge, you know damage to kind of activate that

643
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: that craziness, that fighting spirit in him to make some

644
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: you know, close moments there. But it's like, so I

645
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: still do ask myself, Luke, is a defense does he

646
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 3: you know, does he have to make major defensive changes

647
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: on this level to to truly compete on even terms

648
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: or is it just he likes to fight too much?

649
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: Which one is it?

650
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? I definitely feel like there needs to be okay. Obviously,

651
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: his jiu jitsu is lights out right lights out, so

652
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't need a lot of help there, but blending

653
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: it better would be one.

654
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

655
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: In terms of like the wrestling, his wrestling has been good,

656
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: but I think there's definitely a lot of improvement that

657
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: could be made. And the other one is I think

658
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: and you saw this in the Korean zombie fight, because

659
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: he drilled Korean Zombie and kind of forced it on him,

660
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: slowing the fight down a little bit. He likes to

661
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: mix it up. He's got a he's got a real

662
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: like brawling instinct in him, which at.

663
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: Times I love it. It's it's it's working against him now.

664
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: But you have to admit, Luke, it's fun as shit

665
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: to watch. So this guy's savage man.

666
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: Bryan Ortega is is appointment viewing. I mean for everybody,

667
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: Brian o't take's appointment viewing this fight on Saturday fucking rocks.

668
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: I mean this there's nothing wrong with it. But I

669
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: think for Brian o'tega to maximize everything he's built, I

670
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: think the wrestling needs to be tightened up in terms

671
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: of the blending, and I really think slowing the fight

672
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: down in terms of the striking, taking his time with it,

673
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: really getting behind a jab. He does have a long reach.

674
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: He can do a lot with that and then let

675
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: the creativity flow. Remember what was the shot that turned

676
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: the fight with the Korean Zombie. It was the spinning

677
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: back elbow. That was the one that got him. So

678
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: you got to stick with what you are good at,

679
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: with where your heart lies. But it was all the

680
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: other pieces about the in and out movement and foot

681
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: placement and where he was going. That's what built everything.

682
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: That's why that performance was as strong as it was,

683
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: including the fact that Korean Zombie is not on the

684
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: level of Holloway or Volkanovski. But yeah, er might not

685
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: be either. So this is a very very very winnable fight,

686
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: if you know, obviously quite difficult.

687
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: Luke, it's a you almost did a dance with who

688
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: brung you a type of comparison there, and I agree

689
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: with it. So in that regard, if Ortega takes an

690
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: other loss here, given the domestication that's happened to him

691
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: him you know, they bought a house, Luke, well, we

692
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: look back almost like Manny Packiew where we're like damn

693
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: gambling Womaniz and Manny Pacio used to go after it

694
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: in fights. Will that be part of the post fight

695
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: analysis for you and a potential loss.

696
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: Here, I don't think so. I think if he does

697
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: have a loss to me, it would be I know

698
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: he took the two years off after the maxifight, which,

699
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: by the way, I wasn't two years was a bit long,

700
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: I think, but he needed to take that was a

701
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: brutal beating like he needed to take a lot of time,

702
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: so half of that was not such a big deal.

703
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: I think it would be a I just feel like, listen,

704
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: some guys get married and it, you know, and they

705
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: slow down and it kind of wrecks their career or

706
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't maximize things. But for others, it can actually

707
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: provide a lot of focus, It can provide a lot

708
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: of direction, It can provide a lot of frankly, utility.

709
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: I tend to think he might benefit, you know, he's

710
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: not married or anything, but you know, in having a

711
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: more centered home life and a much more dedicated training protocol.

712
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: He was on Jimmy Smith's show yesterday on Sirius XM,

713
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: talking about how he would bear he hit mits for

714
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: striking and you know, working out in his garage and

715
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: just getting wins. And he thought, well, I can just

716
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: do this and win. And then he got a wait.

717
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: He said, chaos, Luke, He's had waves of chaos in

718
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: his life and he's overcome a lot to get here.

719
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: But maybe you're right, maybe maybe a happy at home.

720
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting, you know, I didn't think libido would

721
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: be part of this breakdown that we would do here,

722
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: but he has a Scott Bao world record level one

723
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: and if he wants to keep that and check now

724
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: for happiness, that's a good trade off, Luke. We've all

725
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: been there, Luke. If you had to take one quality

726
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: from him, you can have it for the rest of

727
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: your life. Are you taking his hair, his libido or

728
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: his jesuite skills?

729
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: You know? Uh, I've accepted that I've turned into a

730
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: dodge omni. So I'm gonna let him have his hair.

731
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: I take his jiuju sis. That's pretty good skill.

732
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now what would you do with that? Because I

733
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: always said, imagine if you can wake up tomorrow, Luke

734
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: and you could dunk, like, what would you do? Would

735
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: you pull up to a park in an inner city

736
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: and try to like try to have your moment? What

737
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: would you do with with with those skills tomorrow? Would

738
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: you would would you inquire to the ADCC, Luke?

739
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: Would I inquire to the Abu Dhabi Kombat Club? Why

740
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: would I do that?

741
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: Well? I thought that was where they do those big

742
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: world famous jijuts tournaments, Luke, that that people pull out

743
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: like a sword, you know what I mean? Time Abu

744
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: Dhabi champion.

745
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, it's the most prestigious nogi

746
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: title you can get. I don't know, you know, and so.

747
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: Are you going? That's where you're going? No, Gi Bro, I.

748
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: Probably would not go back to training because I think

749
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: for most people it's actually quite bad for them long term.

750
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: But that's just me, all right, Oh, BC.

751
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: Then Libido would have been the better choice. Sorry, Luke

752
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: get you.

753
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: I've kind of pumped it on that too, all right. BC.

754
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: In your co main event, you've got Michelle Waterson back

755
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: in action against Amanda Lamosh. I'm looking at the rankings

756
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: right now. This matchup makes a little bit of sense

757
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: because you've got Waterson sitting at ten, Lamos sitting at eleven,

758
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: so right next to each other the rankings, Lamos probably

759
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: would hop into the top ten. Michelle Waterson's been an

760
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: interesting one because remember she was design by w ME

761
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: years ago, and I think that there was always this

762
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: expectation on when she she was always too small for

763
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: the UFC. She's much more of a natural atom weight

764
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: obviously fighting at strawweight now, so she's been fighting bigger

765
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: people for just to get into the UFC. But I

766
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: think there was an expectation that could turn her into

767
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,479
Speaker 2: a bigger star, and it never quite panned out by virus.

768
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: The fact, again, I want to be very clear about this,

769
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: she is not a natural strawweight. She's a much smaller person.

770
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: Although now that's not quite so true, that hasn't been

771
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: true for some time, but certainly started her career out

772
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: that way. Let's put it that way.

773
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: And some of those and just real quick, some of

774
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: the times when she has lost against the elites like

775
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: Johanna even you're like, oh wow, the strength difference between

776
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 3: the two, you know what I mean, or the size difference.

777
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: I want to be clear. Years ago she said like,

778
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: actually yeah, and I'm making it with the cut. Now

779
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: one to fifteen is probably a better fit. Blah blah

780
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But I'll just say this. I think

781
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: historically her best work has been at one oh five. Okay,

782
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: neither here nor there. Is this the last stand for

783
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: Michelle Waterson as a sort of top ten main card

784
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 2: relevant fighter.

785
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: I thought the last loss. I mean, look, she's lost

786
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: three or four, but as we mentioned, all against elite competition.

787
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: The only win was a split decision against Angela Hill,

788
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 3: so she needs to win badly, Luke. But I thought

789
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: the chances were over to see her back in another one.

790
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: Here you say, okay, so what am I gonna get

791
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 3: from her at age thirty six? Well, Luke, if the

792
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 3: training pictures are any indication, like even you have to

793
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: say admit, like she got an alarmingly next level shape

794
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: for this fight. So if this is her saying, all right,

795
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: you know, lost three or four, always good competition, I'm close.

796
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: I can't get over that hump. I'm not gonna go

797
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: away unless I find out, you know, make sure I'm

798
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: using everything left in me. I respect that spirit, Luke.

799
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: And I know people think I get very heavily romanticized

800
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: into that. People like BC is a casual who can't

801
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: pick fights, and when he tries to, he loves punchers,

802
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: and he loves old people making comebacks. Right, And look, I.

803
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: Mean, God, Jesus Christ, you do that is so true?

804
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, first of all, you can't pick

805
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: what you love, Luke, Okay, it just it picks you.

806
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: But second of a fuck off? All right, all right,

807
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Luke. But yeah, in this case,

808
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: it's an old person making a comeback. And look, tell

809
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: me if I'm crazy. You can't win a fight with abs.

810
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: But like she's in sick shape right now. You know,

811
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: maybe maybe we have to be careful in predicting her

812
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 3: doom here. Maybe there's something left here.

813
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, I think predicting her I'm not predicting her doom.

814
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: I'm not suggesting a loss is inevitable. What I am

815
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: asking is, let's say a loss happens, now where are we.

816
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: That would mean her last win would be over Angela Hill,

817
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: which was a controversial one. I thought H'll won that

818
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: one as well. I think that's right. She was a

819
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 2: split decision. Now, Amanda Laimosh coming into this contest, sitting

820
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: at eleven, she is coming with a loss to Jessica

821
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: Androge which was the standing arm triangle. But prior to that,

822
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: she beat Angela Hill, Montsieerrat, Ruiz, Olivia Hanato, Suza Mizuki

823
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: in a way, Miranda Granger, and it goes on and

824
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: on and on from there. Not the same level of

825
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: opponents that Michelle Waterson has faced, because Michelle Waterson, in

826
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: addition to beating Angela Hill, had faced Carla Esparzo you

827
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: want to and Chick and Marina Hadriguez. Now those are

828
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: tough ass fights. But here's the KEYBC. It's one thing

829
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: to be like, well, I was against the very very

830
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: top of the division and I couldn't win. Okay, fair enough,

831
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: but now you're not. Now you're fighting someone who is

832
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: outside the top ten. What happens then? If you win,

833
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: it tells us, hey, there's definitely still some life and

834
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: some gas left in the tank. But if you lose,

835
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 2: it's like, well, now you're losing to a different kind

836
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 2: of opponent. Now you're losing to a good, certainly irrespectable,

837
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: but lower level quality of opponent. That would signal something

838
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: new in my.

839
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: Mind, absolutely it would this and that brings, you know,

840
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: a certain level of interesting theater to this fight, you know,

841
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: obviously with Lemosh's run coming off the loss, but had

842
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: a nice run before that though she got submitted by

843
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: Jessica and Drodge. But she was looking to be potentially something.

844
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you can get a she can make

845
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: a leap here with a name like Michelle Waterson on

846
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: there for sure. But when somebody goes all into the level,

847
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 3: I'm sort of you know, saying that I it looks

848
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 3: like Waterson's doing. You find out one or two things. Look, no, like,

849
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 3: you'll leave no doubt if you go out there and

850
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: get a great performance to say, Okay, if I if

851
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: I really get one hundred percent out of myself, man,

852
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: I still got it. And you'd love to see anybody

853
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 3: find that in themselves in any craft or art. But

854
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: the other one is if you still don't got it, Luke,

855
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: then a loss tells you it is time to go,

856
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: because then there's no more excuses, you know what I mean,

857
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: no stone unturned, you put it all in. So that

858
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: adds a lot to the stakes here. Yet, when you

859
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: look at where they're at in their careers and you

860
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: apply that to a betting standpoint right now, our friends

861
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: at Caesar Sportsbook minus three p forty Lamos plus two

862
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: seventy Waterson, that does seem kind of perfect, Luke. I'm

863
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: in on that line. That's about right.

864
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right, dude. It's a winnable fight

865
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: in either direction. And I think you know, we had

866
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: seen obviously Jessica and Drodge is like Hercules, she's so

867
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: goddamn strong a man a Lamos had showed some decent

868
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: physicality herself. So Michelle Waterson's gonna have to really, you know,

869
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: This is a bit, a bit of a put up

870
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: or shut up kind of fight situation for her. For Lamos,

871
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: the expectations are not that high. I mean, she's very good,

872
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: But what I mean is, again we go back to

873
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: the conversation about your year versus josh iimm and who

874
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: the fans like. The fans have long kind of favored

875
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: Michelle Waterson and you know, the promotion itself obviously too.

876
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: Wm freaking signed her to represent her. Uh but you

877
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: would need a win like this to preserve any of

878
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: that stock, any of that good will without it, it's

879
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: not going to be all that valuable long term, right,

880
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: So there is even a long term at this point.

881
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: Anyway, I wm if wm ME reached out to you

882
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: and I and said we want to collectively represent you

883
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: guys as well, and then we were like, okay, that's cool,

884
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: but we were kind of got this only pipe stock

885
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: idea here. Do you think that becomes a deal breaker

886
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: for them?

887
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: So inner world where wm ME wants to sign us

888
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: and BC comes into the meeting, like Ben Affleck in

889
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: Goodwill hunting is like keep your ear ted a grindstone?

890
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: Uh would that impact this? Yeah, I'm gonna bet it would,

891
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet it.

892
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: What Okay, all right, we don't need them, then them,

893
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: we don't need them.

894
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: BC. There's a bunch of good fights on this car.

895
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: We don't have time to get to all of them

896
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: here right now, the Leech is gonna take on Muslim Sealakov.

897
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: Matt Schnell is back against themiderg which should be a

898
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: fun one. Your boy, Shane Burgos, Charles Jordas.

899
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 3: Dude, that's gonna be the fight of the night, man,

900
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 3: I mean, except for except for the main event, which

901
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: could end up being the fight of the year or

902
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: our lifetime for all we know. I mean, let's give

903
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: those two the respect to know that they can craft

904
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: up something crazy special coming on. But Luke Burgos Air Jordan,

905
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: they both obviously can use a big win here to

906
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: stay in the larger conversation. I love the action potential.

907
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: I look at the line here, Luke, and it's as

908
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: close as I thought it would be plus one forty

909
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 3: five Jordan minus one seventy Shane Burgos, Who's stock right

910
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: now is is more pointing upwards entering this fight in your.

911
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: Opinion, Jorda Jordia, Yeah, he has really come all. I

912
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: mean Burgos. This is a tough one because I like

913
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: Shane Burgos a lot. I think all fans do, but

914
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: your dad has really, I think turned a corner of

915
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: late more recently. However, however, Burgos can steal all of

916
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: that thunder with a big knockout or you know, dominant

917
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: or you know, good looking win one way or the

918
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: other on Saturday. And of course, let's be very clear

919
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: about this, he will have something of a hometown advantage

920
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: as well, being in New York.

921
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: Tiger shoul and I asked you a quick can I

922
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: ask you a quick question about Burgos? He had those

923
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: two losses in a row at the highest freaking level,

924
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: and they were wars. Then he comes back against Billy

925
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: Q and gets a hard ass fought win. Did he

926
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 3: take too much punishment in that for your liking? Did

927
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 3: he still look like he's ready to like have an

928
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: outside shot and entering the title picture? Where do you

929
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: sort of look at what? I mean? He's only thirty one,

930
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 3: but but dude, he's put it out there.

931
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, didn't he have that crazy fight with Kyle

932
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: Bokniak too? If memory serves, I could be wrong about that,

933
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: but he's had He just he has a real in

934
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: the pocket. I'm gonna hit you, You're gonna hit me,

935
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: and then the last guys standing is just gonna be

936
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: the last guy standing. And that makes it sound like

937
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: he's got no skills. He's a weird combo. He can

938
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: actually box his ass off, but he's just willing to

939
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: accommodate damage to have the kind of fight that he

940
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: wants to fight at times. So it's not like he's

941
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 2: not a skilled guy. He's actually that's the very surprising part.

942
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 2: He's actually very skilled. But we've all seen it. Dude.

943
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: He will absolutely bite down on the mouthpiece and just

944
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 2: let it go. And Charles Jordan I don't think can

945
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: win that kind of fight with him. I don't think

946
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: there's not many guys who can. But I think if

947
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: Charleis Shordan uses a more well rounded sort of scientific approach,

948
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: he could get the win there. LASTLYBC two more fights

949
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: in his car that are interesting. Bill Lgo taking on

950
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: Herbert Burns. I really like Ricky Simone taking on Jack Shore.

951
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: Jack Shore. This guy out of Wales is a fucking hammer,

952
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: but riche is also a hammer.

953
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know you're right, but shuret, dude, he's

954
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 3: coming on and now that I've been apparently adopted into

955
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 3: the Welsh society, Luke, or at least one YouTube comment or,

956
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: said that, so that's pretty much gossible to me. But

957
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: uh yeah, my Welsh brethren here, Luke, I was gonna

958
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: ask you how good you think he is. He's on

959
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: one of those runs. We haven't seen him solved yet.

960
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: He's beaten that, you know, one at a time, that

961
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: competition level where you go, okay, okay, if you're doing that,

962
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: let's get to the next level. This is now that

963
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: next level. How good is Jack Shore.

964
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: He's very, very good. He's very good. His striking is scientific,

965
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: He's I think a black belt in jiu jitsu. He's

966
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: he's got it all. The one thing that has been

967
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: lacking him is he is so I won't say careful,

968
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: but he is so thoughtful that I don't think he

969
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: sometimes has that killer I'm gonna finish this guy off

970
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: kind of instinct. He has a he's always thinking through problems.

971
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: You can tell that the wheels are turning, and so

972
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: that makes him not less dangerous in the sense of

973
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: getting a win, but less dangerous in the sense of,

974
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: you know, he's not gonna throw crazy, hyper or low

975
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: percentage shit for the fuck of it, right, He's not

976
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 2: gonna do the Shane Burgos kind of thing. Uh, And

977
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: so that has reduced his capacity for finishes. But but

978
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: in terms of his overall skills and how how skilled

979
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: he is, he is, he is a force to be

980
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: reckoned with, make no mistake about it. But Ricky Simone,

981
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: Ricky Simone had him and Morob demolished. Weally have the

982
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: two best, maybe the two best engines in all of

983
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: the UFC. Like, you're not going up against some fucking

984
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: scrub and Ricky Simone, not by a long shot. So

985
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: that is a hell of a fight. And we got

986
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: to move along. But last, but not least, well, well.

987
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: I know Ricky Simone had some debate over whether he

988
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: should get rid of the fucking what does he wear

989
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: a loot party in the bet? Yeah, I mean it

990
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: kind of is who he is. Would you advise him

991
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: to get serious or are.

992
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: Never thought mullets, even ironically were funny or cool? Now

993
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: maybe that's because I don't have you know, I'm not

994
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: gonna say that, but I've I've always found them to

995
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: be uh stupid personally. Now you might be looking at

996
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: my hair right now and be like, look, what is

997
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: it that is about your hair that is so great?

998
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: And the answer is nothing. Of course, I look like

999
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: I've been hitting the head with a two by four

1000
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: this morning several times. But you're just asking me my opinion.

1001
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like I don't like mullets.

1002
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: I don't do it for you know, you were about

1003
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 3: to make a dub t comment until you're like, oh shit,

1004
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: I am a you know, on screen vaping piece of shit.

1005
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I saw that happen.

1006
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: The real quickly last but at least Lorden Murphy and

1007
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: Misha Tate. We talked about this in our UFC two

1008
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: seventy six prev game preview, which should have been edited

1009
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: out but wasn't. But either way, they moved it to

1010
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: this contest because Murphy had COVID. She's long over it.

1011
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: All that's in the past. I gotta tell you, this

1012
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: is a you know, Mesha Tate's like, I'll get a

1013
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: title shot if she wins, which I believe.

1014
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know what she's gonna win, though

1015
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: she gonna win, I don't know. I don't know, because

1016
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: they do, dude, they're this is even I don't eve

1017
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 3: know what the odds are, but in my mind this

1018
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: is not only an evenly matched fight. I have fears

1019
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: that this this you know Twilight Misha Tate, who has

1020
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: proven that she still got it, she still got something.

1021
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: She came back from that kind of layoff. She's an

1022
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: incredible shape, she proved a lot, but she's gonna have

1023
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: to prove here that you can make this cut and

1024
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: fight a fighter of this elite status. And Luke, although

1025
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: she's been solid in the comeback, I haven't seen any

1026
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 3: roads to be spectacular, to be that next level. And

1027
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: you know, certainly to win the title, she's gonna have

1028
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: to be next level, but to win the fight that

1029
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: gets you into the title fight, she may have to be.

1030
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: And the reason I say that is because you and

1031
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: I both respect Lauren murphy game plan against Chefchenko. Aside,

1032
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: she's the solid at shit across the board. I mean,

1033
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: she's good everywhere. It's hard to look great against her.

1034
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: This could be a fight, you know, trying to trap

1035
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: matchup for Tate where because it's hard to look great

1036
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: against her. And if Tate is you know, solid and

1037
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: consistent but not spectacular, you can lose the majority decision

1038
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: that way, so you know our split decision whatever. Yeah, Luke,

1039
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: I think there's a certainly a lot of stakes in

1040
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: this fight, but a lot of questions as well. It

1041
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: is good match making, you know, it's very very good

1042
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 3: match making.

1043
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: And then actually to open the car, justicapetit ticket on

1044
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: Emily Ducatti. Emily Ducatti is highly underrated. She had that

1045
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: brilliant knockout in Invicta against it was Daniel Steele. I

1046
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: forget her name, but Jessica Petni used to be a

1047
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: huge force. Also one of five. If you've never seen

1048
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: Penny versus Waters from Invicta, you should check that out.

1049
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: That'll open that car. That whole card is a banger.

1050
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: That whole card is a banger. All right?

1051
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: Are you are you surprised quickly that Mishitate is a

1052
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: minus two twenty five favorite? Does that surprise you at all?

1053
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: Or are you good with that?

1054
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: A little high if you ask me? A little high? Okay,

1055
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 2: a little high? All right? Topic number two. We won't

1056
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: have a ton to say about this, but basically the

1057
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: idea is this. Yuri Prahachka was on am Or. He

1058
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: also put out a video about it. Basically saying the

1059
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: next challenger for me is Glover. I have to keep

1060
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: respect for Glover. So one other option is to offer

1061
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: Glover the rematch and the second thing is to fight Yan.

1062
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: I have to make a decision in that. But still, yeah,

1063
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: I have struck with my UFC, my manager. But then

1064
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: he put out a video basically saying he's going to

1065
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: fight Glover next. Jan tweeted quote, Jan is the biggest

1066
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: Jan is for me the biggest challenge your words, respect

1067
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: you champ. But the Samurai code was not upheld. Very

1068
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: basic question, b see who should YEARI fight next?

1069
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: Well, his reasoning in that video he put out was

1070
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: because he feels he fought bad against Glover, and I

1071
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: think you know, we were surprised, Luke that it turned

1072
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: out to be the crazy batshit action fight where it

1073
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 3: seemed like anybody was one big strike away from winning,

1074
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: you know, from about four straight rounds. I mean, it

1075
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: was awesome. It was throw out the game plan and

1076
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: find out who's more of a man. So from that

1077
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: standpoint of how you know, he's not known as an

1078
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: overly skilled fightler, but there's obviously a lot of clever

1079
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 3: craft to what he does to set himself up to

1080
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 3: do those insanely explosive strike attempts. He's probably right, Luke,

1081
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: he probably can't fight a whole hell of a lot

1082
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: better without giving Glover so many chances. And by the way,

1083
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: Glover also fought his frickin' ass off in that fight

1084
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: age you know, mileage notwithstanding, Dude, he fought like a

1085
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: man in that fight. Obviously, when the implosion happened, it

1086
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: was quick, but he had poured it all out and

1087
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: then some I would love Protska's chances in a rematch.

1088
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: If he feels like he needs to do this to

1089
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 3: prove that, you know, he's certainly legit and that and

1090
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: that he didn't just outlast an old guy, then I

1091
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 3: support that because I support Glover getting another chance, you know,

1092
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: I mean, do I fear that it could be a

1093
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 3: you know, a damaging one of course at this level

1094
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: with with the way they fight, Yeah, of course, But dude,

1095
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: get Glover one more big payday. That performance last fight

1096
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: might deserve it, Luke, it just might, you know what

1097
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1098
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: I don't really have a strong preference either way, and

1099
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: I don't know why any I mean, like, there's a

1100
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: good case in either direction, and I don't see that

1101
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: the argument for one side or the other is all

1102
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: that strong. Yan did rebound, right, so he would be next,

1103
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: but it's not like he had. He went on like

1104
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: a four fight win streak to get back here, and

1105
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: I would would change the equation a little bit. And

1106
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: then Glover, you know, that was his first title defense,

1107
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: so he couldn't make the argument that way except that

1108
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: it was very competitive and it was the most insane

1109
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: fights you're ever going to see. So that would be

1110
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: like the argument in either direction, it's like, whatever makes

1111
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 2: sense for you, that's fine. Whatever makes sense for UFC,

1112
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: that fine, But it's not like, what is the argument

1113
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: that clearly puts one over the other? Right, you're right,

1114
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: Nothing that I can see, that's my issue.

1115
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 3: No, No, you're right.

1116
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: You're right.

1117
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 3: That's a good strong point there, and that would mean

1118
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 3: though that right, would you make Whovich against the winner

1119
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 3: of NKALAIAV and Anthony Smith, Then that's not bad at Allso.

1120
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 2: Do if they do the Glover rematch? Yes, yeah, then yes,

1121
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: then yes I would yes, because that fight is a

1122
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: big fight, huge fight. So something to think about what

1123
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: I mentioned. We're talking about two O five here, Kamara

1124
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: Usman has set his sights on light heavyweight. Apparently after

1125
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: speaking or talking about Leon Edwards. Use Ousman to TMZ quote,

1126
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna go in there, We're gonna completely focus on

1127
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: Leon Edwards, but after Edwards, we have our sight set

1128
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: on two o five. Whether it's Yon or whether it's

1129
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: year or whoever it is. That's what we want. I

1130
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: want to prove to the world that there is a

1131
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: reason why they say pound for pound, that means pound

1132
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: for pound at any given time, any given moment, at

1133
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: any given weight, I can go in there and I

1134
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: only hold my own I can be victorious. I want

1135
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: to be able to prove that well. I got to

1136
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 2: tell you I love the Gusto on Ousman. I don't

1137
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: know how wise it is. Uh, although you know Luke

1138
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 2: bobbles bro Bro's the size of Hippity Hogh. It's just

1139
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: a shame he can't go to one eighty five because

1140
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 2: of his right. But that would be a much more

1141
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I don't want this movie. See it's

1142
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: not what I'm saying, but I would prefer at one

1143
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: eighty five. I do think that's a little bit more

1144
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: interesting for me.

1145
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 3: Once in a while. I love when bizarre rumors become

1146
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: potentially true. And I know this is not the first

1147
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: time he's talked about this, but every other time he

1148
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 3: talked about it, Luke, I didn't really believe him. But

1149
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: now when you look at his circumstance, like if he

1150
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: gets you know, by Edwards in the rematch, man, he's

1151
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,959
Speaker 3: already been there and done that in this division. Obviously, dude,

1152
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: we're all going fight, fight, fucking Shramaya, but like he

1153
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 3: might be in a spot where he look and go, Okay,

1154
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: I've done it. There's a new generation coming on. I'm

1155
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: not gonna take a chance of sacrificing myself to you guys.

1156
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: If I'm gonna sacrifice myself, if I'm gonna go all in,

1157
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: I might as well fucking you know you're coming on, dude,

1158
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 3: he's coming on with this shit. Obviously to your point,

1159
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: it seems like a dramatically because of you know, friend

1160
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 3: uh and in the respects he asked for Israel out

1161
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: of Sonia. As much as damn we would love that matchup, dude,

1162
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: we would freaking love that matchup. But the idea of

1163
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 3: doing something seemingly this crazy where you're like right away.

1164
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 3: You're like, man, is that a really really, really really

1165
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: bad idea. But yet if he bulks up, if he

1166
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: still feels like he retains the quickness, his striking is

1167
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 3: getting better, Luke, if he feels like he can dominate

1168
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 3: wrestling on that level, it's interesting. It's interesting, Luke. I

1169
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 3: don't know, you know, you still don't love the idea

1170
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 3: of those of those the strikers, the hammers at that

1171
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: way class, and they are fucking hammers, you know, landing

1172
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: on his one hundred and seventy pound chin. But you know,

1173
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 3: things like this are only crazy until somebody does them

1174
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: in some ways too, Luke. You know, I mean this

1175
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: was a sport that started open weight, right, you know,

1176
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: and started you having to win four fights in a night.

1177
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: You know, I mean different circumstances, yes, but no time limits.

1178
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 3: I mean, you know that's where we come from in

1179
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 3: this game, Luke. So when someone wants to go caveman

1180
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: on that ship in an attempt to like if it's

1181
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: if this is him Luke looking at what he's accomplished

1182
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 3: and the money he's made and going, okay, outside of

1183
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: selling my soul to Canelo, and I tried, but they

1184
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: don't seem to want it, and I don't think that.

1185
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone should want that. By the way,

1186
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: you know, this is my way to double everything, my name,

1187
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: my money, my hit, my legacy, all that you You

1188
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: could not criticize that that is that is that is

1189
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: some barbaric shit that that we all. You know, if

1190
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: we were playing a video, if this was UFC four,

1191
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 3: that's how we would make our fighter act and behave.

1192
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: Luke right, Yes, yes it is.

1193
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 3: I hope you felt what I I was putting out there, Luke.

1194
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: No, I was feeling about so I was thinking about,

1195
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: like I hated the whole Canelo push and I would

1196
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: you know, I just it just drove me nuts. And

1197
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: then there was that one media guy, whoever the fuck

1198
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: they dude, the UFC just handing that credentials to anyone

1199
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: these days apparently, but they uh, they're one guy being

1200
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: like would you be the betting favorite at the presser

1201
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: with Leon and even Kamara was like what Like he laughed,

1202
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: He couldn't believe someone wasn't even asking him that. I

1203
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: am glad to be moving on to this again. I

1204
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: do think he'd be much cooler if he was trying

1205
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: it at onoint eighty five, because not that I don't

1206
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: not that I don't appreciate the gusto to go to

1207
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: two of five. That is fucking crazy. It's amazing that

1208
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: he would try that. It's just, you know, how doable

1209
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: is that in all reality? That's thirty five pounds above

1210
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 2: where he normally competes. That is a shit ton of weight.

1211
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: So I just don't have super high hopes for it.

1212
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, what, what else can this

1213
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: guy do if the conduct to your point, if the

1214
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: Canelo door has been closed and he's trying to do

1215
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: something big in the fight game, I don't know what else.

1216
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what his other options would be, to

1217
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: be honest short of.

1218
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 3: Getting hurt, short of getting hurt and that, and that's

1219
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: potential when you take big chances like this. Of course,

1220
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: is this a no lose idea for him? Luke? Can

1221
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 3: he like you know what I mean? If he goes

1222
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 3: up there and he gives all and it's just not enough,

1223
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: We're not We're gonna be like, damn, that guy had balls.

1224
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't hurt his legacy. I wonder if

1225
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 3: he feels losing to like the unknown alien JEMAIAV. You

1226
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Would that would Would that change

1227
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: his legacy if he lost on the way out of

1228
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 3: welterweight as opposed to exiting welterweight unbeaten on his own terms?

1229
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: Yes, And I also think let's say he goes up

1230
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: to two o five and fights, you know, I don't

1231
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: know somebody who is you know, really big for that

1232
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: weighty a natural two o five her, and then he

1233
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: can't quite get the takedown, and you know he's doing

1234
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: he makes a strong account of himself, but just you know,

1235
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of a step behind. You'd be like, damn, dude,

1236
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: that guy came up too big ass. And not just

1237
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: two weight classes two of the biggest jumps in eight classes, right,

1238
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: So fifteen pounds in the first one, then a twenty

1239
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: pound jump in the other one. This is not going

1240
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: like Triple C was going one twenty five, one thirty

1241
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 2: five and then I wants one forty five. That would

1242
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: still no Proportionally, that's still a lot, obviously given that

1243
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: you know the natural weight classes one thirty five or

1244
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: one twenty five depending on perspective. But it's the only

1245
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: ten pound jumps. This is our fifteen and twenty pound jump.

1246
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 2: Respect that's a huge, huge jump. And so if you

1247
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: didn't do all that, well you'd be like, well, you

1248
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: know he tried. We already know what he can do

1249
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: a welterweight or something, And you're right. I often say this,

1250
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: like the hardest thing to do in MMA is to

1251
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: stand at the top of a weight class and then

1252
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: invite contender after contender. They all find tape on you.

1253
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: They all find ways to, you know, to get whatever

1254
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: kind of weakness. You get older, the contenders get younger.

1255
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: It's like Doug Stanhope talking about the bar. It doesn't

1256
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: matter how old you get, the bar stays twenty three.

1257
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 2: That's how old the bar. That's that's that's the reality

1258
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: right here. It doesn't matter how old you get as

1259
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: the champion. The contenders, they just stay younger and younger

1260
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 2: and younger and young relatively speaking.

1261
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: So I actually think it's that's why we like high

1262
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: school girls, Luke, because you know, we get older, but

1263
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: they stay the same age.

1264
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 2: Careful, careful, all right.

1265
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 3: Come on, it's you know, it's it's a famous man.

1266
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 3: One said that.

1267
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, very topic number three, we'll do some

1268
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: quick hitters BC. They put in the notes here that

1269
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia is gonna fight Javier Fortune or Fortune, which

1270
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: is actually not his name. It's Javier Fortuna BC. I

1271
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, I'm actually halfway interested in this. I

1272
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: know that Fortuna is not considered like the biggest threat

1273
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: to Ryan Garcia. He's a top ten guy, that's about it.

1274
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: But dude, it wasn't like against to Go, Garcia looked

1275
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: all that awesome. This is the second fight with Goosen

1276
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: getting a new style under his belt. Fortuna decent south

1277
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: Paul will throw, you know, extending combinations along the rope line.

1278
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: I'd like this fight. Okay, what's wrong with this fight?

1279
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? Unlike the fight with to Go, meaning we could

1280
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,919
Speaker 3: talk ourselves into a variable of storylines that could entertain us, right,

1281
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: like him coming back and blow to Go away, which

1282
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: didn't happen, right. I mean, it was one sided, but

1283
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: it was kind of long and slow at times in

1284
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 3: terms of coming back with a bang from all the

1285
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: questions he had to answer here. This has one of

1286
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 3: those things where people kind of groaned when they heard

1287
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 3: it because you're like, all right, they already tried to

1288
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 3: make this fight, but they couldn't and it's like Javier

1289
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: Fortuna has shown these flashes at times in his career

1290
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: of potentially being very good or great, you know, and

1291
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 3: he's one world title before, but it's not like he

1292
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 3: has a lot of losses. But we've kind of seen

1293
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: him be inconsistent. He is a South Paul counterpuncher. I mean,

1294
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 3: he he can do some bad things to Garcia. If

1295
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 3: Garcia holes that sometimes he's flash are you know, permanent

1296
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: and still there and not going away? And you know,

1297
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: to Garcia's credit, Luke, it wasn't over the exciting, but

1298
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: he didn't show a ton of gaping negativity in the

1299
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: fight against to Go. But at the same time, RAI

1300
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 3: guy didn't look like he's ironed them all out either.

1301
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 3: He's still kind of an unknown. So in that regard,

1302
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: it maybe a fight that you've grown at first because

1303
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 3: it's not Tank Davis or you know, Devin Haney, but

1304
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 3: it still could be theater. We're still gonna learn a lot,

1305
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: and Ryan Garcia still has a lot of questions to

1306
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 3: answer inside the ring to before I think the idea

1307
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: of him against Tank Davis, which is really going to

1308
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: be really hard to make. Separate promotion, separate networks, and

1309
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 3: you know, early indications are that not everybody is all

1310
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: interested in getting along and doing something like that right now,

1311
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to, you know, silence the skeptics first.

1312
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 3: And it could happen in one night potentially, but it's

1313
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: probably going to be more of a of a you know,

1314
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 3: chapter by chapter circumstance. So this could be in a

1315
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 3: compelling chapter. Luke in his in his comeback here and

1316
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: his which is still part of his initial rise.

1317
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 2: I just feel like it could be a decent action fight.

1318
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: Garcia fought to Go, I'm not gonna say recklessly, but

1319
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: he clearly didn't have a lot of respect for what

1320
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: to Go could offer. I mean, to Go was hand picked,

1321
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: you know, so Fortuna Fortuna is you know, as I mentioned,

1322
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: top ten guy should be beatable, but should be an

1323
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: action fight. And dude, you know, Ryan Garcia had the

1324
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: what the hand injury, he had the depression, he collapsed

1325
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: it training with Ady Reinoso and everything. He switched up

1326
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. He's kind of rebuilding a little

1327
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: bit too, like a new identity. This to me seems

1328
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: like an appropriate next step. So between that and the

1329
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: fight being probably an action fight. I don't, I don't

1330
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 2: I don't love it or something like that, but I

1331
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: definitely don't hate it at all.

1332
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 3: Dude. One thing to note Fortuna can be I don't

1333
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 3: know what the right way to say it is, because

1334
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: when you look at this record, you're like, oh crap.

1335
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: You know, like he's I mean, he's solid man, but

1336
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 3: he can be like kind of flaky sometimes in his performances.

1337
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: But there's a he has that gene to go after it.

1338
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 3: I mean you know what I mean, He's if he

1339
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 3: sees an opening, he's going to go after it. So

1340
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think it's gonna be fun

1341
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: and dramatic, even if rag I might have to surf

1342
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 3: the waves for a while and tiptoe before land in

1343
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 3: the boom. Luke, I do feel like, you know, I

1344
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 3: don't want to say bad things about an other men's tattoos.

1345
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 3: That's why, you know, mister Heebas deserves the respect.

1346
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: Luke.

1347
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: I really don't love what Ray Guy's done with his tats.

1348
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 3: And I know there was that headline on TMZ where

1349
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 3: he said, like he's got a complex over how much

1350
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 3: fans hate his tattoos. But they might be right. Luke.

1351
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 3: I kind of expect more for how cool he is

1352
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 3: for what he actually has.

1353
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: Are they fixable? Can we can we make some adjustment? God,

1354
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: he got a bunch of new ones and I haven't

1355
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 2: seen them. I will say this. You know who's actually

1356
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: gotten really good new tattoos, like really good Jake Paul.

1357
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: I hate to admit it, but his tattoos are fucking

1358
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: like the new ones. The new ones are.

1359
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 3: I haven't seen them. I can't come.

1360
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very good. I saw that. I mean we are.

1361
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: We talked about the one where he had like the

1362
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: goal sorry, like the the wreath around his neck, like

1363
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 2: he had a fucking Christmas wreath on his head or

1364
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: some shit for Ryan Garcia. I don't love those, but

1365
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: I know he got some other ones and I've not

1366
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: seen them. It just blows my mind. It's like, these

1367
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: guys have all the money in the world. You can

1368
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 2: go to the very best artists that money can buy,

1369
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: and then they go to some donk who you know.

1370
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's like lazy dragon tattoo in the middle

1371
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: of fucking Culver City, California, Like, why the fuck are

1372
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: you going there?

1373
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 3: Well, the whole point in me bringing up this seemingly

1374
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 3: ridiculous side note was that you know, I want to

1375
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 3: advertise you to the world. I would love nothing more

1376
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 3: than to find out that team of Garcia reached out

1377
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: to you privately, and we're like, Luke, we heard what

1378
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 3: BC said, and he's right. We we what to take

1379
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 3: you on staff as sort of our our you know,

1380
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 3: tattoo q and a you know advisor in that way

1381
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 3: and the re in theory, that's great, you'd get a

1382
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 3: big time job. We wouldn't have to go public with it.

1383
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 3: But you know, you can help save a guy here

1384
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 3: from turn the wrong corner. But I know in the

1385
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 3: end you wouldn't stop though with just repairing the chest tats.

1386
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: You'd go full astat on him. You would get in

1387
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 3: his ear and cover that man's ass. And Luke, if

1388
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 3: I found out that happened, I'm betting against him every

1389
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 3: single fight in that he's not going to get to

1390
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: the tank fight. Okay, Luke, So don't do that.

1391
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: Don't do that, mister Astats himself, Andy Ruiz, did you

1392
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: see what kind of good shape my man is in

1393
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: those astats? Yeah?

1394
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: I saw his glues. Yeah, I couldn't quite see his anus,

1395
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 3: but yeah, thanks for that piece of content, Andy, thank

1396
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 3: you all right?

1397
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: All right. Speaking of Jake Paul, whose new tattoos are excellent,

1398
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: he had a press conference yesterday in New York City

1399
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: for his upcoming bout with Hassim Rockmand Junior b C.

1400
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 2: I had a quick conversation with Paul, nothing too serious

1401
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: about twelve minutes in length. No, it was good.

1402
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 3: It was dude, I would sell that shit. It was

1403
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 3: good you you asked the right questions. I thought he

1404
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 3: thought kiss.

1405
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: I did not think he did not hate me or anything.

1406
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: He was very friendly before and then after the interview

1407
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: was live. Don't get me wrong, it was it was

1408
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: it was professional, it was normal, but I got the

1409
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: feeling he wasn't gonna give me a ton, so I

1410
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: didn't want to, like ask for a lot. But either way,

1411
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 2: what is your impression of what happened at yesterday's press conference?

1412
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, like this Rockmond Junior kid,

1413
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: he's all right by me, dude.

1414
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 3: I thought he performed well in that for again, for

1415
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 3: whatever that's worth. But in this case, because of the

1416
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: unknowns as to really where each fighter is in their

1417
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: career and how good they actually are, I feel like

1418
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 3: we can really look at that press conference, which was

1419
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 3: Theater by the way, shout out to Ariel hosting it,

1420
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 3: and I wonder if we're on the same page here.

1421
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 3: I came out of there way more excited about this

1422
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 3: fight than I feel like a fight with Tommy Fury

1423
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 3: ever would have actually gotten me where. I don't really

1424
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen, but if you really made me

1425
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,959
Speaker 3: pick dude, I here's what I think about Hasim Rockmont Junior.

1426
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 3: I think everything is Dad bluntly said about him right

1427
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: to America is actually right. When you watch his implosion

1428
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: in his long career defeat against Tommy Morrison's son. You know,

1429
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 3: it wasn't that spectacular of a performance leading up, but

1430
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 3: it was, you know, where he was having success. I

1431
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: think Luke, like we've seen for a lot of fighter,

1432
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 3: second generation fighters, you know, maybe he hasn't given to

1433
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 3: this sport he's talking about. I haven't been at this weight.

1434
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: You know.

1435
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: One of the big worries is okay, but this heavyweight's

1436
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 3: got to cut down to two hundred in. This heavyweight

1437
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 3: fought at two twenty four last fight, and I had

1438
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: that worry too, you know, fought us high as two

1439
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: sixty nine and there's this rehydration rule, you know, with

1440
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: the New York State Commission here to make sure everyon safe.

1441
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 3: But Luke, it really looks like here's a kid who

1442
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: you know, it's hard to follow. And when your name

1443
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 3: is literally junior of a former heavyweight champion, I don't

1444
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 3: think he's ever really bitten down to try to find

1445
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 3: out how good he can be. And for his dad

1446
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: to say that publicly means you know, there really was

1447
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 3: or is an issue if he ends up having not

1448
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 3: only no issue making the weight because maybe this is

1449
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 3: the first time he's really going after it because he

1450
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 3: has to you now, we may get the best version

1451
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 3: of him possible. And you know, them going back and

1452
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 3: forth about that sparring session. It does depend on who

1453
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: you believe based on the trash talk. And yeah, just

1454
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 3: like Paulie versus Connor McGregor, I'd love to see the video.

1455
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 3: Somebody out there's got the video, put it out. Let

1456
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 3: us judge for ourselves here. But I wonder if this

1457
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: is like not unlike Buster Douglas against Mike Tyson, different

1458
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 3: scenario altogether, but Douglas because of that forty two to

1459
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 3: one book, you know, somewhere odds. In one sports book,

1460
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: it was deemed as if this bust, you know, James,

1461
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 3: Buster Douglas was never anything, and he walked in off

1462
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 3: the streets like Rocky Balboa and took on the champ

1463
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 3: and oh my god, he beat him. No, James, like

1464
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: Buster Douglas's dad was an aggressive, solid pro boxer, and

1465
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: Buster Douglas was always this underachieving guy who had seemingly everything,

1466
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 3: the frame, the pedigree, all that, just didn't have the

1467
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 3: work ethic or the want until he had to one night,

1468
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: you know, his mom died the you know, weeks before

1469
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 3: the Tyson opportunity. He finally had something to fight for

1470
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: and he put it together and showed what actually is

1471
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 3: under the tank that this could be a trap for

1472
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 3: Jake Paul. If this is what ends up happening, if

1473
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 3: you activate this guy a six foot three South Paul,

1474
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: That's what makes this fight way more compelling than what

1475
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 3: the Fury family could have brought to it from a

1476
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 3: marketing side, because Jake Paul may have to really make

1477
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 3: the leap August sixth that that we are gonna need

1478
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,919
Speaker 3: him to do before we're gonna believe that he can fight.

1479
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 3: You know reel boxers and not just crossover entertainers. He

1480
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 3: may have to end up proving everything in this fight,

1481
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: and not only will that be exciting and fun to watch,

1482
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's coming out of this, Luke,

1483
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 3: and I don't think we've really felt that yet on

1484
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 3: this Jake Paul journey.

1485
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean if you just took away the identities

1486
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 2: of everyone and just gave them letters ABC or X

1487
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: y Z, and you looked at X fighter and it

1488
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: was Jake Paul and all he's accomplished, and what his

1489
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 2: opponents had looked like inboxing, what their records were, and

1490
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 2: then you looked at Rockmand, and so he would be

1491
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: WY fighter. And you didn't know the identities, who would

1492
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 2: you pick in this contest? You would pick Rockmund ten

1493
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: times out of ten. You would never pick Jake Paul.

1494
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: You picked the guy with one hundred amateur bouts with

1495
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: a guy who's fought at heavyweight, the guy who's twelve

1496
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: and one. You know, his records hardly perfect, but it's

1497
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: it's miles better than Jake Paul. Now, in the end,

1498
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 2: there are a ton of factors here. How ready is

1499
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: Rochmand junior? And you know what kind of shape is

1500
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,919
Speaker 2: he in? He's he gonna be able to make the weight,

1501
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. There's a lot of things that

1502
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: are working against him here. But the reality is, dude,

1503
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 2: this is by a country mile much more interesting than

1504
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: the Tommy Fury fight as a real boxing question to

1505
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: be answered here. And I gotta tell you, I don't

1506
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: I listen if Jake Paul. I honestly, I will be

1507
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: surprised if Jake Paul wins this fight. I'm dead serious.

1508
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 2: I will be right now. If there are total disasters

1509
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: with the weight, well, then I don't know is anybody's

1510
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 2: ball game at that point?

1511
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Jake, Well, here's the deal. Jake's

1512
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: pretty damn good for a celebrity fighter, right, We've always

1513
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 3: given him that credit. I mean he takes it so seriously, yes,

1514
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 3: but he's you know, the ambition is to it inevitably

1515
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 3: fight an absolute real fighter, even if it's some Cashian

1516
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 3: opportunity against Canelo, which we would all say, please don't

1517
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 3: do that, but you get my point, Like it is

1518
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: building toward the idea where he knows he's going to

1519
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 3: have to prove it. Dude, there's so much critical opportunity

1520
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 3: in here for Jake Paul to prove that. So I

1521
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 3: think it is right for you and I to both

1522
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 3: go damn if you know, if again, if the weight

1523
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 3: thing is not a problem, Like what if the weight

1524
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: thing is not only not a problem but actually gets

1525
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 3: Rockman into the best shape of his career, Like that's

1526
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 3: also in play as well. You know who knows just becauseout.

1527
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: This he's never fought anyone who's an athlete, Like I know,

1528
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: he made his pro debut against another I think YouTube

1529
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 2: or whoever. He made his pro debut against that guy,

1530
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 2: and I'm sure he was in shape or whatever. But

1531
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: he's never fought an athlete who was in at least

1532
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 2: from an age range his physical prime. Like never, He's

1533
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 2: never done that. This is the first one. And by

1534
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 2: the way, he's got significantly more boxing experience. Again, if

1535
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: you didn't know the names, if they would just they

1536
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 2: showed you X fighter has this and why fighter has this,

1537
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: you would never pick Jake Paul to win. So for me,

1538
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I find this one way more interesting, yeah,

1539
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: way more interesting than the time me theory fight was

1540
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: Like for me, like whatever, this one is not whatever

1541
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: at all.

1542
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 3: And if you're wondering from like an inside boxing secutive,

1543
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 3: like before Rockman's name was thrown around for this Paul fight,

1544
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 3: like what did people think of him? Not all that much,

1545
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 3: to be fair, So you know, he also has sort

1546
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 3: of that burden on him, Luke of like, I do

1547
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 3: have to kind of live up to the family name.

1548
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 3: Maybe this is the opportunity that I needed to sort

1549
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 3: of kick my ass into it. That's, dude, that could

1550
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 3: be very real. In this could be very very real.

1551
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. He could also beat Jake Paul

1552
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: and you wouldn't even necessarily believe he's going to go

1553
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: back to his boxing career and then beat very good guys.

1554
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: It's not even about that. Again, if you look at

1555
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: who Rockman has faced now, he probably has faced guys

1556
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 2: of a similar level of Jake Paul. What was the

1557
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: guy's name? Who? The other Legends kid who he lost

1558
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 2: to recently, the McKenzie Morrison I think, or Kensey Morrison's it, dude,

1559
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 2: Kenzie Morrison is significantly better than Jake Paul as a boxer.

1560
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: And of course you know Rockman Junior lost, but I'm

1561
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 2: saying who on his record on Rockman's record is as

1562
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: good as Jake Paul Rockman Junior already beat him, Like

1563
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like this is a very

1564
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: very I think this is a way, assuming that the

1565
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 2: weight is not a disaster, which by the way, it

1566
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 2: could be. Assuming that the weight is not a disaster,

1567
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: this is an uphill climb for Jake Paul. That's sortd

1568
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: my view.

1569
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 3: It obviously depends on, you know, not just you know,

1570
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 3: the scenario in which we activate Rockman and say, okay,

1571
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 3: now go be as great as you can be, and

1572
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 3: maybe in the past he wasn't trying that hard. There

1573
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 3: is also this potential, like, so the allure here is

1574
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 3: that he's not fighting a guy like Tyron Woodley, who

1575
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 3: was you know, fought professionally at one hundred and seventy

1576
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 3: pounds and then fights Jake in the one nineties. You know,

1577
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 3: he's finding a guy that is bigger, taller than him,

1578
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 3: naturally stronger than him. But in that Luke, what if

1579
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 3: Rockman just isn't all that great of a fighter at

1580
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 3: the end of the day, could Jake potentially have a

1581
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 3: handspeed advantage? And here's where you're heavily leaning on the

1582
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 3: parts that Jake actually seems to do well, at least

1583
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 3: on the level before under this sort of imagining eye

1584
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: test of like, well those skills translate on this level. Now,

1585
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 3: if we get an underwhelming Rockman, you know, Jake may

1586
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 3: have to go through some stuff, but he can also

1587
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 3: this is this is potentially a fight he can win

1588
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 3: an out box and you know that could say a

1589
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 3: lot critically about Jake as well.

1590
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 2: Even hear one thing, one thing in Jake's two things

1591
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 2: in Jake's favor. One he doesn't have nearly the damage

1592
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: in the miles number one. Not that Rockman has a ton,

1593
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 2: but you know Jake has hardly any and Jake has

1594
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: fire underneath him like he has like Rockman. Junr. His

1595
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: dad is trying to jolt his career back to life

1596
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: or something, you know, saying the things that he was saying.

1597
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,520
Speaker 2: Jake doesn't have that problem. Jake wakes up intensely motivated

1598
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 2: for this, and you know this is a huge challenge

1599
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: he's accepting. Here's the thing. I just go back to BC.

1600
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: We were there for the second Woodley fight. Now I'll

1601
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 2: give Paul his flowers. That knockout of Woodley is spectacular.

1602
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 2: I mean it is what it is. That was incredible

1603
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 2: and it wasn't just a big punch. He set it

1604
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: up by faking low and then came over the top.

1605
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: Woodley transferre defense and he hit him clean and he

1606
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 2: put his lights out like that was a tremendous shot.

1607
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: But just prior to that, dude, that fight was not good.

1608
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: It was not good in both directions. Jake Paul did

1609
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: not look good up until that tremendous, tremendous knockout, and

1610
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:53,839
Speaker 2: that was a flat footed, very post prime Tyron Woodley.

1611
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 2: If Rockman Junior is at all indecent shape and is

1612
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 2: at all taking it seriously, just tough fight, bro, This

1613
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 2: is a tough fight.

1614
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 3: No, But but you know there is I guess enough

1615
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 3: questions about Rockman to like the perfect scenario I said,

1616
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 3: I say it again. The perfect scenario for Jake is

1617
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 3: that he goes in there, it's a really hard fight.

1618
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 3: He gets dropped, but he gets up and then he

1619
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 3: you know, finishes. The guy gets up and shows that

1620
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 3: what you're saying, he wants it more and he gets

1621
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 3: the knockouts like a Rocky movie. I mean, that's the

1622
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 3: perfect that's also potentially in play with this level of matchmaking.

1623
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm into it. I'm pretty fired up, Luke.

1624
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. At the end of the day,

1625
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 3: they pulled me back in and there's gonna be some

1626
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 3: questions need to answer, because I think we can both

1627
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 3: agree Jake was out of options. He kind of had

1628
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 3: to do this. So now you have to ask yourself,

1629
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 3: is they sparred? They had to realize they sparred, though

1630
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 3: very early in Jake's run, right before that first fight

1631
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 3: against the YouTuber and I think the one right after that,

1632
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: So this was very early Jake Paul who was I mean,

1633
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 3: look the guy he fought an Easton Gibb, Luke. Physically,

1634
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 3: that's a you know, that's a mismatch there. You can't

1635
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 3: even almost count that. So at that point, did Jake

1636
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 3: do things have certain rules in the sparring that Rockman

1637
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 3: keeps bringing up that was meant to protect him. Yeah,

1638
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 3: I mean at that point he didn't even know what

1639
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 3: he had or what you know, what Annison Gibb was

1640
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 3: going to be him, would you know, bring to him?

1641
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 3: So maybe there is a potential for Jake to have

1642
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 3: made such a leap from what Rockman remembers where that

1643
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 3: sparring not only means nothing to this fight, but it

1644
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 3: could give Rockman false confidence. Do you think that there's

1645
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 3: a potential in that at all, given how long ago

1646
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 3: it was.

1647
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 2: Yes, here's the thing. I know, Jake Paul's gonna take

1648
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 2: this seriously. Like whatever you want to say about his

1649
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: ability and this whole YouTube boxing thing, fine, But I

1650
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 2: do think he's going to take it seriously. I do

1651
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: think he's training hard, and I do think he's going

1652
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: to be in shape. We don't know about that. But

1653
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 2: with Rockman Junior, were like, we don't have any clue

1654
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 2: what we're going to get with him in terms of

1655
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 2: what is your desire to win? What is your level

1656
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: of motivation, what is your level of training, what is

1657
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: your level of fire that burns underneath you. I guess

1658
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is if he is at all prepared.

1659
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: If he's at all prepared, it's a tough night for Jake.

1660
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 2: On the other hand, if he's just gonna phone it

1661
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 2: in like he has been doing, yeah, then Jake probably

1662
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: can get the better of him because you know, because

1663
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: I think you know, skill has been fights, but Jake

1664
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: is significantly better than he was, and he again I

1665
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 2: don't have any questions about Jake's desire, zero none. But

1666
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 2: he is green. He is crazy, crazy, crazy green and

1667
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 2: Rock One Junior hasn't set the world on fire, but

1668
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 2: in terms of boxing, he's done a shitload more that

1669
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: should matter on some level if he has trained properly.

1670
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: But I guess we'll see. I guess we'll see BC.

1671
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: Speaking of veryjole Wana, he spoke to Nate Diaz, who

1672
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: had a long interview where he didn't say anything a

1673
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,759
Speaker 2: whole lot new, but that he's looking for a release

1674
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 2: from the UFC and that they're holding him hostage. What

1675
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 2: did you make of Diaz's comments.

1676
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's sort of hammered home the sort

1677
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 3: of ideas we had of you know, why is UFC

1678
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 3: really freezing him out? I still don't know if we

1679
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 3: really know whether it's a bit because they know he's

1680
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 3: going to go fight Jake Paul and kind of be

1681
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 3: a competitor to what UFC's trying to do in that

1682
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 3: same pay per combat sports market, or if it's because

1683
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 3: they're waiting for Connor. You know, it seems like Connor's

1684
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 3: come back here, Like there's times that we're all about

1685
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 3: talking about it right, can make Phil's headlines easy to

1686
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 3: match making fun, but like, is he close? I don't

1687
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 3: feel like we even really know exactly where he's at

1688
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 3: and when. It can be both of those, but is

1689
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 3: it one or which one?

1690
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: Is it?

1691
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 3: After hearing after hearing Nate break down in detail, painstaking

1692
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 3: slow detail, Luke, but in detail about where he's at

1693
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 3: and who they actually offered him, and the times he

1694
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 3: feels like they've kind of taken a step back in

1695
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 3: the negotiation and just let time kind of burn him.

1696
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. To me, it's just, you know, his

1697
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: whole situation is just underscores how imbalanced. I would say

1698
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: that the world of MMA is relative to boxing. Boxing

1699
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 2: of course has its tremendous problems, to be clear, but

1700
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 2: a fighter like this should not be having these kinds

1701
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 2: of interviews at this stage of his career. It should

1702
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: not be this painful for him to get a fight.

1703
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: And you know, I listen, I'm sure Nadiez is on

1704
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: his own account. The UFC would probably tell us, oh,

1705
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 2: you have no idea how hard he is to deal with,

1706
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: and there might be some truth to that as well.

1707
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 2: Who the hell knows, I don't, but what I guess

1708
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: what I would say is we should not be in

1709
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: a situation like this. This should be resolvable, This should

1710
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 2: be moving along. The UFC is doing well enough where

1711
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 2: they you know, Nadiaz is certainly a huge name, but

1712
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 2: they don't need him for continued success, and handicapping him

1713
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 2: this way so that he can't get a Jake Paul

1714
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 2: fight on time or whatever they're trying to do, it

1715
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 2: just seems gratuitous and unnecessary. And I mean, but he

1716
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 2: called thinking this out.

1717
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 3: He called their bluff on according to him, he called

1718
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 3: their bluff on the chamayav offer, and then he, according

1719
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 3: to him, Chimaya suddenly didn't want it.

1720
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, but who's I mean? He says things like

1721
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 2: I beat Kebab, you know what I mean?

1722
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 3: Like, well, that's the thing. So I was gonna ask you, no,

1723
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 3: I feel like whenever Nate says something specific about, you know,

1724
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 3: a potential where UFC could have wronged him, because we

1725
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 3: all love Nate and we're all like, how the hell

1726
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 3: could you take three years off after your pay per

1727
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 3: view brand, you know, reached its apex with the two

1728
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 3: Conor fights, and you know, and now you're going through

1729
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 3: this where you're just wasting away, not your fault, seemingly

1730
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 3: in the moment, but then like ten seconds later, Luke

1731
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 3: would be like, yeah, ariel uh you know where was Masvidal?

1732
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 3: He was about to retire before I came across him,

1733
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 3: and then I made him a superstar. It's like, yeah,

1734
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 3: kind of not not true in that timeline. Really, it

1735
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 3: was after the you know, yeah, no, So he does

1736
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 3: that a lot, Luke, where you're like, Okay, maybe I

1737
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: have to apply the same you know, grain of salt

1738
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 3: when he's talking about negotiations too. Maybe maybe, Luke.

1739
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 2: Still, it's at this point, like guys on Twitter begging

1740
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 2: for a fight, Let's see if we can get them one.

1741
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 2: I really hope we can. All right, Oh, he just

1742
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: scared it.

1743
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 3: I mean, what the what the f Luke?

1744
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Okay, it can't be that hard.

1745
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 2: It just can't be. I'm sure that Diaz is hard

1746
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: to deal with. I'm sure that he is, but it

1747
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 2: can't be the case that they can't get him a fight.

1748
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 2: I just don't believe that at all. So in the end,

1749
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: that's what a kind of comes down to for me.

1750
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: Be see. Very quickly, GSP says there would be three

1751
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 2: fighters he would face in any kind of return, which,

1752
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 2: by the way, I want to clarify, but unfortunately for

1753
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 2: me and the fans and everybody, it's not gonna happen

1754
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 2: because I'm done and I don't miss it at all.

1755
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: So I don't have a whole lot to say about this.

1756
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 2: But the fighters he says he would name in a

1757
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 2: return would be kabib Usman and Chimayah. What do you

1758
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: make of that? Anything interesting to you?

1759
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 3: Not really, I mean it does sort of support his

1760
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: ideology and how he looks at it, Luke. I mean,

1761
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 3: that's the reason why he's been so selective on what

1762
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 3: actually coming back. You know. I know there's some wrangling

1763
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 3: with the UFC, of course, and it took it took

1764
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 3: Nick Kahn right to be like the the you know,

1765
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 3: third man in the room to get.

1766
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 2: UFC too FLI into the audience. Who Nick Cohn is.

1767
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 3: Now the president of WWE. But you know, became a

1768
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 3: super agent on the level that like we almost hadn't

1769
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 3: seen in this game, you know, from representing broadcasters to

1770
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 3: companies like WWE or you know, anyone bringing him on

1771
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: to negotiate their deals, which so he was a part

1772
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 3: of so many monster things that happened across pro wrestling,

1773
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 3: all of combat sports. Then you know, he was a

1774
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 3: key factor in launching the Top Break on ESPN cable deal,

1775
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 3: which became a you know, a huge move, and so

1776
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 3: all that he was the reason it seems that we

1777
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 3: ever got GSP to sit down with UFC Brass and

1778
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,799
Speaker 3: get through whatever issues just to get him back against BISPINGK.

1779
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 3: So the whole point here is Luke, the best thing

1780
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 3: I'll always ever say about George is he he loves

1781
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 3: the idea of fighting for a legacy so well, so

1782
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 3: much that you know what I mean, not about the

1783
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 3: celebrity and money as much as he's about what have

1784
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 3: I accomplished and how you know, how can I pick

1785
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 3: on that that that that that Bonzie tree and make

1786
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 3: it look perfect. Is he never would come back unless

1787
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 3: it was for something that can elevate his career. So

1788
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 3: in that regard, yes, these three opponents do sort of

1789
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 3: fit that model to some degree. All though the tremiofl

1790
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 3: one it is interesting to hear him even say that,

1791
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 3: But him against a b B right now, as unlikely

1792
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 3: as it is, it's one of those rare sort of

1793
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 3: like break Glass super fights that. Really the intention of

1794
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 3: fights like that is to bring in the ridiculous casual

1795
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 3: audience and make an event.

1796
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 2: Right.

1797
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes the fan in us like under respects what an

1798
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 3: event could do for the sport pay per view, but

1799
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 3: buys and all, you know, attention, but we're not all

1800
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 3: like yeah, but who fucking wants to see that? This

1801
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 3: is the rare fight in that where it's like I'd

1802
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 3: get giddy like a schoolgirl for GSP versus A be

1803
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 3: given all the legacy involved in all that unbeaten record

1804
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 3: against you know, GSP going for the third title. I mean,

1805
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 3: I know that hebe's not even the champion anymore, so

1806
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 3: that those those stakes in terms wouldn't even you know,

1807
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 3: be applied. But are you as fucking a as I

1808
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 3: am on us our sport? Unfortunately having missed the potential

1809
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 3: for that that could have been something so special.

1810
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. GSP retired what five years ago? Why

1811
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 2: the fuck are we still doing this?

1812
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 3: Get romantic for once the old piece of I mean,

1813
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 3: just get you know what I mean, Like, take.

1814
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 2: His career, dude. I was there for virtually every single

1815
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: one of his fights, not in person, but like you know,

1816
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: certainly observing it in real time. I got. I got

1817
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 2: the GSP experience like I got it. I got to

1818
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 2: see it from nearly beginning to end. I don't I got.

1819
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm fulfilled, you know what I mean. But the part

1820
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 2: of missed it and have this nostalgia for it, which

1821
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 2: is fine. He had a tremendous career, but you know

1822
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: he's he doesn't want to fucking come back. Why are

1823
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 2: we doing this?

1824
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 3: But Luke Keto, the part of you, that unreachable.

1825
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 2: Part deserve from my Colombian in law, but which you

1826
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:30,520
Speaker 2: are not, part.

1827
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 3: Of you that only comes out once in a you know,

1828
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 3: blue moon. No, I'm not talking about to Margharita, Luke.

1829
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 3: I'm talking about paw Yay pwawe weigh that guy, that

1830
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 3: guy that just the moment, the moment made.

1831
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: You rock hard for the most real fight fan. At

1832
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 2: the end of the day, you can say whatever you

1833
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: want by by me, I'm a real fight fan. But

1834
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: at the same time, dude, like, you know, can we

1835
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 2: stop crashing into the cemetery here?

1836
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 3: The guy he's okay, he's moved on.

1837
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 2: He's moved on.

1838
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,799
Speaker 3: Let's move on, Luke, all right, let's move.

1839
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: We see this one will get you a phoner if

1840
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: you haven't already got one. My level of interest is

1841
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: close to zero, but up yours is probably high. PVZ

1842
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 2: gets a BKFC opponent facing Charissa Carissa Sigala, who's fought

1843
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: four times for the promotion. She's thirty eight. Was it

1844
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 2: a Fight of the Year contender against Taylor Starling at nothing?

1845
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 3: That fight was? That fight was insane, like almost too much.

1846
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 3: That fight was almost it was like there's just you

1847
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like this this sport can go

1848
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 3: too far. Luke, that fight was insane.

1849
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 2: But she's one one in one in BKFC. Your reaction,

1850
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:38,480
Speaker 2: it seems.

1851
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 3: Like a potential get well, although it also could be

1852
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 3: a trap fight like the other ones have been. So

1853
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 3: in that case, Luke, as much as I'm not here

1854
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 3: to like endorse the nutritional value of the gas station

1855
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 3: hot dog, I mean, look at my liver. It's the

1856
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 3: color of this shirt, right, But Luke, yeah, I'll watch

1857
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 3: and it's probably the right move here all things considered. Okay,

1858
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he can box in the BKFC on this level,

1859
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 3: but I don't know if she has the those other

1860
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 3: parts that you need to be good at this sport, Luke,

1861
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because it's different. It's different.

1862
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I'm a question for you because I've not

1863
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: really kept up with her career except I mean, I

1864
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 2: guess she fought Rachel Ostavisi and loss, and there were

1865
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: some other ones there as well. If you can't beat

1866
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: this opponent, and again, she's one, one and one, She's

1867
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 2: not like oh and three or something. But if you

1868
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: can't beat this opponent, what what would BKFC do with her?

1869
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 3: Maybe this is her playing out what what what? You know?

1870
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 3: The fights? The thing she owes in the contract. Maybe

1871
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 3: because we know, Luke, that she's having success. I don't

1872
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 3: know is she a full time a w Russell even

1873
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 3: I don't know that. I'm not watching any wrestling anymore.

1874
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: Luke. Wow, Wow, you got got that? Got that Ebola?

1875
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, this is a this Yeah, okay, we don't

1876
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 3: need to have you seen this shit. We're having faces

1877
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 3: of death right right now in front of you, Luke. Whatever,

1878
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 3: nobody kill us, go over the next all right.

1879
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 2: I want to remind everyone we are a nominee for

1880
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: the Best Sports Podcast and Best Male Hosted Podcast category

1881
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 2: in the People's Choice Podcast Awards. Of course, We appreciate

1882
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 2: all you guys and everything you do for us, and

1883
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: we hope you enjoy the show enough to advance this

1884
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: nomination to the final round. To nominate Morning Combat, go

1885
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: to Podcast Awards how we already nominated, but okay to

1886
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: vote for Morning Combat.

1887
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 3: I guess there's levels. They nominate a large group, then

1888
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 3: they throw it to the fans, and then I think

1889
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 3: the fans end up picking the finalists, Luke, and then

1890
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 3: I don't know who picks the finalists at that.

1891
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 2: All right, But to get Morning Combat to the next level,

1892
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 2: go to Podcast Awards dot com, slash app, slash sign up,

1893
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 2: and then toggle down to the sports category. The whole

1894
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 2: process takes less than just sixty seconds. We've included a

1895
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Speaker 2: link at the top of the episode description here in

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Speaker 2: the YouTube box there as well.

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Speaker 3: I want to say one more thing related.

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Speaker 2: You can scan QR code on the screen, because.

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Speaker 3: Look, voter don't vote like you know, I'm not like

1900
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Speaker 3: puff Daddy telling you voter die here like whatever, We

1901
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 3: appreciate it. It gets us things like you like these

1902
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 3: live shows. We'd love to do one in New York,

1903
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 3: you know, we love to win more awards to sort

1904
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 3: of push that vehicle forward, Luke. I'm actually not against

1905
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 3: to Margarita Luketo, but not having the right sound where

1906
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 3: everybody's involved. The crowd can hear us, we can hear

1907
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 3: each other. I couldn't wrangle that beast. But if you

1908
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 3: guarantee me working sound system, I'll pour water on you

1909
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 3: after midnight or whatever it is to turn your your

1910
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 3: gizmo ass into a spike haired, raging gremlin. Luke, I'll

1911
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 3: dance with the devil here if it's necessary. Okay, okay,

1912
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 3: at a live show. You don't have to retire just

1913
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Speaker 3: for me, Luke, okay.

1914
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Speaker 2: And anything for you BC. All right, it's time.

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Speaker 3: Well that's a harsh no cell there, Luke. Are you

1916
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Speaker 3: all right? Let's get out of here. Here we do.

1917
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Speaker 3: We do this on Monday, but today's Wednesday, but we're

1918
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Speaker 3: back at it. We scoured the globe over a long

1919
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 3: weekend for the high, good, the bad, the ugly, beyond

1920
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 3: combat sports, all that bullshit. Here it is. It's called

1921
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 3: have you seen this shit? Oh god? Oh god? All right, Luke, uh,

1922
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 3: here we go. I still haven't even watched the UFC card,

1923
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 3: so you know this may be more people falling and

1924
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 3: dying than people falling and dying in the cage. But

1925
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 3: I do have one highlight from UFC fight night in

1926
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 3: Las Vegas. Luke, did you see Chase Sherman getting into

1927
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 3: that heavyweight war with Jared Vanderah Luke showing showing that

1928
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 3: killer instinct? Would you say, right, Luke?

1929
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean he took he took some heavy

1930
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 2: shots on the way to doing this, so let's be

1931
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 2: clear about that. But he got the job done. Good

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Speaker 2: for him.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's an exciting guy. Well, speaking of that

1934
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 3: killer instinct, did you see the photo he posted later

1935
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 3: that night on the Old I G with OJ Simpson

1936
01:27:54,560 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 3: and Luke. The caption said killers is this cool? Cringe?

1937
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 3: Or like get this the fuck off? My timeline?

1938
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wasn't my favorite, to be honest with you.

1939
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 2: You know, here's the thing. I mean, I don't know

1940
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: how old Jase Sherman is, but I was I think

1941
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,839
Speaker 2: in ninth or tenth grade. I was in high school

1942
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 2: when the OJ verdict came down, and I remember like

1943
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 2: the words spreading around that he was not guilty and

1944
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 2: it was like this, dude.

1945
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 3: We watched it in class live on the TV in

1946
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 3: accounting class.

1947
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a big deal, and like if you

1948
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: go back and just sort of like the trauma that

1949
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 2: was done to the Goldman family as a consequence of

1950
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 2: you know, I know he was exonerated, but you know,

1951
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Speaker 2: we all kind.

1952
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 3: Of have a but dude, we celebrated. Did this happen

1953
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 3: for you? Guys? The entire room broke out in celebration

1954
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 3: because you're seventeen and you're feel like you have some

1955
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 3: quasi anarchy spirit inside. You're like, yeah, he got off, Yeah,

1956
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 3: like he's fucking It was much more like he's the

1957
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 3: leader of the nWo now or something like. But looking back,

1958
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god, it's horrible.

1959
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 2: It's a horrible thing that happened to that family, and

1960
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 2: you know, shit like this where oj just gets to

1961
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 2: walk around free, you know, is kind of a indictment

1962
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 2: on our society and the justice system. So I didn't

1963
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: love it. Didn't love it.

1964
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh Jane's the worst. But you know, there's probably

1965
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 3: other people in this category that I would have easily

1966
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 3: taken that picture with, and I probably will.

1967
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:20,560
Speaker 2: Luke probably so probably so also a gross Yes.

1968
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 3: Luke, we had mentioned the whole phoner joke, and maybe

1969
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 3: I swung in mists trying to get Josh Emmett, you know,

1970
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 3: to say, look the idea of fighting max right dicks.

1971
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 3: But Luke, we keep hearing fighters talking about this, even

1972
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 3: Jake Paul who was on the m MA Hour with Ariel.

1973
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 3: Let's have a listen. I get a fucking hard on

1974
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 3: in the ring every time I get to spark. Look,

1975
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 3: this is just becoming a thing, bro, I mean, fucking

1976
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 3: fight and it's all the same, right, you know.

1977
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there you go. We're talking about OJ in

1978
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 2: one breath and then war machine in the next. Uh.

1979
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I've done a a decent

1980
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 2: amount of combat sports training, never had a never had

1981
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 2: a boner. That wasn't the thing.

1982
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 3: Uh we had. Uh We had wrestling in sixth grade

1983
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 3: gym Luke at City Hill Middle School, and I did

1984
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 3: this is my only experience in this me. I forgot

1985
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 3: the other kid's name, Dave Ferrera. That's it. We rolled

1986
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 3: around and the mister coach Harrison blew the whistle and

1987
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 3: was like, stop trying to have sex with each other,

1988
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 3: get up, and next guy's in. And I never did

1989
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 3: another another second of that. I think, I like, you know,

1990
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 3: forgot my clothes. The next classic, dude. I'm done with

1991
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 3: this amateur wrestling bulld shit now, Luke, I know amateur

1992
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 3: wrestling is manly and there's a lot of great that

1993
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 3: comes with it. Not the mansion owner, not that guy.

1994
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:43,679
Speaker 3: I remember the Fox Catcher. That guy was the worst.

1995
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 3: But you know, I had a bad I had a

1996
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 3: bad experience. Yeah, so if I have to be you know,

1997
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 3: Brian DuPont, I'm sorry, Luke, I'm sorry. Okay, let's keep

1998
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 3: it going, Luke. How about we mixed our two of

1999
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 3: our favorite worlds, the UFC and basketball. Did you see

2000
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 3: footage that broke out of this UFC cash game that

2001
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 3: the SCHMO got invited to? But watch Bala Muhammad, remember

2002
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 3: the name? Watch his post defense on DC. Get that

2003
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 3: ship out of here, DC.

2004
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 2: Well, you'd never know that DC is a world class athlete.

2005
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 3: You know, there's further highlights out there of Jamal Hill,

2006
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 3: who apparently has like legit game, Luke, just raining down

2007
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 3: threes in that.

2008
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's he's like a trim two oh fiver, right,

2009
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 2: Like that makes sense. He's probably you know, like six

2010
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 2: foot plus and has some ups. By old DC, I

2011
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 2: mean that dude was like one of the best athletes

2012
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 2: I've ever covered. You did not know that watching him

2013
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 2: play hoops at the Y, you know, no.

2014
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 3: I bet you he has good old guy like why yeah, YMC,

2015
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 3: A game like of just backing you down and getting

2016
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 3: rebounds and throwing elbows and stuff. I bet you he's decent.

2017
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 3: But Blam mutumboed him right there. I look a little

2018
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 3: bit of boxing from the weekend. I don't know if

2019
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 3: you and Chuck ended up. I didn't go this deep

2020
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 3: in that episode, but Brandon Figuero at one twenty six,

2021
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 3: with that, with that, without that weight cupping as severe?

2022
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 3: Good God, Louke, is he the truth? The way he

2023
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 3: spun around Carlos Castro in a close fight and just

2024
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 3: destroyed him. I mean, you can argue about the stoppage,

2025
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 3: but dude, he you know what, I'm gonna be honest

2026
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 3: about something. I was always there, like a little bit

2027
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 3: skeptical of him because he gives away his height and

2028
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:20,600
Speaker 3: fights in such a style that's seemingly, you know, the

2029
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 3: opposite of what he should do with that body frame,

2030
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 3: where you're sometimes like, okay, is he sacrificing how good

2031
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 3: he can be to just get in these wars? Then

2032
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 3: you watch him go to the body, and you know,

2033
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 3: he knocked out Nary with that beautiful shot, and he

2034
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 3: certainly gave Fulton all he can handle, but he looked

2035
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 3: like he was stepping into power shots in a way

2036
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 3: that I'd never seen from him before. You never think

2037
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 3: of him as a big puncher except for the ability

2038
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 3: to stop guys to the body, which is no joke.

2039
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 3: But he may end up being a finisher at this

2040
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 3: way class Luke. If he can keep those type of

2041
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 3: punches going, I mean those looping shots in the in

2042
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,759
Speaker 3: the pocket, he's dangerous, dude.

2043
01:32:56,760 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 2: I had a whole conversation about this fight with Chuck

2044
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 2: in the sense that I was watching this. He was

2045
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 2: a six round stoppage, and this was something that kind

2046
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 2: of occurred to me watching this, and BC, you will

2047
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 2: be much better equipped to answer this question because I

2048
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 2: do try to watch as much boxing as I can,

2049
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 2: but I don't know how much I'm missing or how

2050
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 2: true this is. In this fight, he used an absolute

2051
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 2: ton of stance switching, which got me to thinking about

2052
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 2: who uses stance switching and who doesn't. Have to be clear,

2053
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 2: stance switching has happened a long time in boxing. In fact,

2054
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 2: my favorite boxer of all time, Marvin Hagler is kind

2055
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 2: of famous for it. However, today when I look around,

2056
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 2: you do see stance switching across different weight classes and

2057
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,560
Speaker 2: different age groups. But this is my little working hypothesis.

2058
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 2: How good is it? The vast majority of stance switching

2059
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 2: is concentrated among boxers in their twenties. Sure or false?

2060
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say that that's.

2061
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 2: A high What is your best explanation for why that

2062
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 2: is true?

2063
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you need a high gas tank and output

2064
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 3: to be able to, you know, pull off the kind

2065
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 3: of footwork that it takes to do that on a

2066
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 3: high level and to be able to make those types

2067
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 3: of adjustments. Now, Figueroa does it more in the pocket

2068
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 3: when he gets the guys back to the rope. So

2069
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 3: he's sort of taking his style, which, like I said,

2070
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 3: maybe I admitted maybe sometimes we looked at as sort

2071
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 3: of one dimensional in some ways. If you don't think

2072
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 3: of him as a knockout puncher, then he's just kind

2073
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 3: of pressuring you and trying to overwhelm you. Well, now

2074
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 3: he's adding in the stance switching. You know, all these

2075
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 3: in the craft now, so he's putting craft within his fight,

2076
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 3: which is he makes you fight on his terms. Even

2077
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 3: Stephen Fulton had to fight on his terms in front

2078
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 3: of him, and now he's able to kind of bring

2079
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 3: nuance to that and not have to cut himself down.

2080
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 3: He could be something different than I thought he was

2081
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 3: now moving forward. But to your point on the stands,

2082
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 3: it's probably more of just the I don't know. I mean,

2083
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 3: you have to be really good to be able to

2084
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 3: pull it off. There are guys that aren't that great

2085
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 3: that you know switch dances every once in a while,

2086
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 3: but seriously, you know, you gotta be Terrence Crawford. You've

2087
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 3: got to be really good to make that a regular

2088
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 3: part of your offense.

2089
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 2: Bootsennis run.

2090
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 3: So you know, I wonder if it's going to be

2091
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 3: a thing, Luke, like the evolutions in MMA, where it

2092
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 3: just becomes you know, when we watch the NBA in

2093
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 3: the nineties centers, you know, senators weren't shooting threes, Luke,

2094
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 3: Now you have to shoot threes just to be on

2095
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 3: the floor. Right. It may be a thing that you're

2096
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 3: seeing it more in younger fighters because it's they're just

2097
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 3: kind of training it now rather than trying to add

2098
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,440
Speaker 3: it into their game later. They're they're growing up freestyling,

2099
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 3: and you certainly don't see that in boxing as much

2100
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,640
Speaker 3: as you see it in mma, so to see it

2101
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 3: now at an elite level and Figueroa and also, I mean, look,

2102
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 3: Carlos Keshtro's nobody's joke. And you know he turned a

2103
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 3: close fight into being over just like that, dude, he's

2104
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 3: adding craft and power together. Watch out, watch out for

2105
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 3: the heartbreaker, Luke.

2106
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm watching. He still love that performance from him. He

2107
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 2: looked awesome.

2108
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 3: You know, he would have stolen this shit out of

2109
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 3: your girl at whatever frat you guys were at, Kai Papa.

2110
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 3: Low testosterone in confidence, Luke, that's yeah.

2111
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 2: What were you doing partying in college, mister fucking King

2112
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 2: of the prom?

2113
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I may I may have dropped

2114
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 3: out by that point, I may have been working in

2115
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 3: the in the kitchen, that nursing home.

2116
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 2: Stupid my partying was, and to be clear, it was

2117
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:15,879
Speaker 2: very stupid. How guilty as charged yours was as stupid,

2118
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 2: if not more stupid. Let's just point that out.

2119
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, he he who smokes out

2120
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 3: of glass pipes, Luke, should not throw stones or or babes. Yes,

2121
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 3: there you go, all right, let's keep it going here. Look,

2122
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 3: this top rank undercard over the weekend had a heavyweight

2123
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 3: banger you see this. It was one sided though, but.

2124
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 2: Boy, not a lot of linear punching going on here.

2125
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I should have gotten the guy's name, Luke. This

2126
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 3: is an early fight in his career, but boy, he

2127
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 3: put it on random white guy from the Midwest there, Luke. Damn.

2128
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, though, I swear to God. Man

2129
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,600
Speaker 2: like this rule. You know, you have to dial it

2130
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 2: back and be more scientific about it, But I swear

2131
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 2: to God. People are like, oh, you know, what's the

2132
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 2: I get these questions over emails all the time, and

2133
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 2: you know, I've been to a million and amateur fights. Right,

2134
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 2: what's the number one piece of advice I give someone

2135
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 2: who's like making a pro debut, or you're fighting someone

2136
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 2: who's like, you know, one oh or zero one, like

2137
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 2: right in that first sort of second fight territory, Dude,

2138
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:14,640
Speaker 2: it's it's blitz the other guy. Someone who's making their

2139
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 2: pro debut is nervous as shit and is not really

2140
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 2: firing on all cylinders. Fucking overwhelm them, that's the answer.

2141
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 2: And I work on your craft scientifically a little bit later.

2142
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, fight like the Tasmanian devil, Luke like a spaz.

2143
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 3: Not to be outdone, Luke. Da Zone also had a

2144
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 3: nice one sided heavyweight banger on the Chisora Pulev rematch undercard,

2145
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, I guess you can imagine who wins this, Luke.

2146
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 3: That guy got the sh Yeah all right, yeah he got.

2147
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 2: He was on the h this this this portly fellow

2148
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 2: was on the correct me if I'm wrong, he was

2149
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,879
Speaker 2: on the Tyson Fury uh Dillion White undercard.

2150
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 3: Right, it's possible, though. They do have a lot of

2151
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 3: guys that look like that over there, Luke. But thanks

2152
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 3: for coming on out, Luke. Here's the heavyweight I have

2153
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 3: a lot of respect for because it's a badass. Deontay Wilder.

2154
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 3: And while I believe this story of him getting a

2155
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 3: statue in Tuscal Loose, Alabama is one of like the

2156
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 3: better underreported feel good stories. I love it. But if

2157
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 3: this video is real, Luke, apparently Deontae really loves it.

2158
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 3: Have you seen this? I think it's him, but.

2159
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 2: His statue in uh yeah, as you mentioned Tuscal Lusa, right.

2160
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's like making out with the guy, Luke,

2161
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess if I if I saw myself

2162
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 3: in bronze like that, maybe I'd do the same, Luke.

2163
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:30,839
Speaker 3: But it's a it's aggressive, it's aggressive behavior.

2164
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot. That's a lot to do there.

2165
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what that really symbolizes. But you know what,

2166
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 2: my man's in love. Don't try to get in the way.

2167
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 2: Love is love BC.

2168
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you see Derek Chesaura call out Wilder after

2169
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 3: winning a split decision.

2170
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 2: Over pulv No, I didn't pay atention to that.

2171
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 3: Would you be into that as a comeback fight wild Hell? Yeah,

2172
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 3: do it in England, that'd be an event. Looke, you

2173
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 3: know tight end Travis Kelcey.

2174
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he plays for the Chiefs.

2175
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, he all happy Gilmour over the weekend at

2176
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 3: a celebrity pro am golf tournament. In between shots, Luke

2177
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:07,560
Speaker 3: doing the the old kechstand.

2178
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 2: Just want to point out this guy is at a

2179
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 2: celebrity golf tournament, like just fucking off and is infinitely

2180
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 2: cooler in this moment than you or I have ever been.

2181
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I got I gotta give him. I gotta

2182
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 3: give him that shout out to Is he still with

2183
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 3: the Chiefs? Luke I'm not as tight end as I

2184
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 3: should be.

2185
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still he's it's a beer bong by the

2186
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 2: way out of kickstand. Yeah he is. Uh yeah, he's

2187
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 2: like one of the best, if not the best tight

2188
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 2: end in the league.

2189
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, all right, Luca's regional regional MMA time, which

2190
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 3: you know, anything can happen. How about some spinny shit

2191
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 3: done right. This is Sean Schubert at Lion Fight seventy four.

2192
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 2: Son Bro. That is such a brutal way to lose

2193
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 2: hold that. Oh god, bloddy, goddamn.

2194
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a war apparently, Luke. Let's go over

2195
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 3: to LFA where twenty to one betting favorite on ho

2196
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 3: he made you some money here, Luke with an insane

2197
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 3: finished just fourteen seconds in.

2198
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was great. I think this guy trains with

2199
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 2: MMA lab or. I'm not entirely certain, but dude, this

2200
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 2: is great. Watch him, very so watching me. The guy

2201
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 2: who finishes it is gonna jab and then step back

2202
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 2: at an angle and that's what he needs for all

2203
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 2: the space. Dude. These guys are getting so good, so

2204
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 2: good with footwork, footwork, set all that up. That was

2205
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 2: just brilliant, brilliant, brilliant stuff.

2206
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 3: I mean that was like his like it was like

2207
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 3: hell reached out and grabbed the body and put it

2208
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 3: right in the coffin the way he felt, Luke, it

2209
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 3: was that was wow. Okay, let's go over also in

2210
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 3: the LFA Luke Alan Bogoso with a with a sick

2211
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 3: flying finish.

2212
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 2: Let's say, I haven't seen this one.

2213
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 3: Oh.

2214
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 2: I thought he was coming with the right knee and

2215
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,679
Speaker 2: gave him the left instead, the old okie dokee.

2216
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,679
Speaker 3: Will we be seeing these guys down the road, Luke,

2217
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 3: the unlo guy.

2218
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 2: I think for sure you're gonna see this guy. I

2219
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 2: don't know a whole lot about, but you damn that

2220
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 2: was nice. That was really nice. That was very very good.

2221
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 3: A little bonus here from Cambace Global, Luke A. Uh

2222
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 3: you know vicom CBS brand there, Uh Ricardo Ramirez with

2223
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 3: this upkick finish.

2224
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 2: That's not the best angle. Hoold are they gonna give

2225
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 2: us another angle? I saw this one too, bro. You

2226
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 2: know what's amazing to me is how many things, like

2227
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 2: you know, if you had a I don't know, you

2228
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 2: don't have a brother, but I had an older brother.

2229
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,759
Speaker 2: It's like, how many things it worked on your older

2230
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 2: brother actually work in MMA when you guys were like

2231
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:40,719
Speaker 2: fucking off wrestling in the couch or whatever.

2232
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, upkick city dude, Kick dude.

2233
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 2: I used to think kicks were like a joke that

2234
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 2: just you know, siblings did to wrestle over the television remote. Nah,

2235
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 2: it turns out you can beat the fuck out of

2236
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 2: someone with him.

2237
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'll retreat to gard I'll pull guard in

2238
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 3: a school fight, and I'll kick the shit out of you, Luke,

2239
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 3: all right in front of the debate team while they're watching,

2240
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 3: like there our captain. Yeah, all right, Luke, it's time

2241
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 3: for some reefer madness. Whi's Khalifa inventing a new bong here, Luke.

2242
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 3: I got sent this about five thousand times in my

2243
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 3: DM saying show to Luke, Show to Luke.

2244
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you know what's that song by the Dixie

2245
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 2: Chicks Cowboy take Me?

2246
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,719
Speaker 3: Oh well, oh my god, look at this gun, Luke.

2247
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, just put that in my face and then tell

2248
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 2: my wife and kids I loved him. That really is

2249
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 2: all I want you to do, Luke.

2250
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 3: Could this firearm end gun violence?

2251
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 2: I certainly hope. I mean yes, just you know you

2252
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 2: seven ar fifteen, just go buy this thing. And I

2253
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 2: think healthier world.

2254
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 3: Thank you. But Luke, is it better than the five

2255
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 3: gallon jug bong challenge that this video offers? You? Could

2256
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 3: you survive, Luke, this apparatus? No, not those, Luke, this one.

2257
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 3: Shout out to Cypress Hill for constantly giving us this entertainment.

2258
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 3: Be real.

2259
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 2: Indeed, Oh my lord.

2260
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 3: Luke, you would pass out instantly after that hit install.

2261
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope. Just get just read me, you know,

2262
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 2: just get a priest there to give me my last ride.

2263
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 3: Well, you know they'd be like, here your heartbroken. Well

2264
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 3: he did go out doing what he loved.

2265
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 2: So this, yeh. I can't think of a more noble

2266
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 2: death than that. To be quiet, Oh, you died in war.

2267
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 2: But that's that's better right there.

2268
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 3: That's amazing, all right, Luke. Best street fight of the

2269
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 3: week takes us to this outdoor New York City restaurant

2270
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 3: on someone's birthday.

2271
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 2: Luke, bro they scrap in New York City. I've seen

2272
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 2: so many street fights out there.

2273
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 3: Here comes the birthday deserve, Here comes the police. Oh

2274
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 3: oh my god. This is like a w W False

2275
01:43:54,080 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 3: count Anywhere match. This is great. I gotta other one

2276
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 3: for you from the outdou outdoor bars. Look at this

2277
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 3: white fella going all Superman punched in a street fight.

2278
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 2: Did he hit it? Wait?

2279
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 3: I don't think he hit it. I think he hit face.

2280
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 2: Perfect that they're outside of bar Loco, that is Look

2281
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 2: at this. He's some fucking gooner who cheers for Arsenal

2282
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 2: and just missed like a motherfucker like Arsenal does like

2283
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 2: in the top six every season of the league. That

2284
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 2: is fucking great, bar Luke.

2285
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 3: Uh. Finally, on the street fights, this isn't This is

2286
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 3: more one sided of a street fight. But are we are?

2287
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:37,639
Speaker 3: We fucking are fighting in this one, Luke?

2288
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 2: Yo, My man gets real handsy here. Oh wow, See

2289
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:50,759
Speaker 2: this is what happens. B See, this is what happens.

2290
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 2: You get into a fight and then you get a

2291
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:53,679
Speaker 2: phoner and then the game just changes.

2292
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 3: You know, Jake Paul was right about this, you know that. Wow? Okay, yeah,

2293
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 3: all right, I got one more public street fight here.

2294
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 3: Here's inside of a club, Luke. You know that's a

2295
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 3: bad place to be.

2296
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 2: Yes, let's not fighting clubs.

2297
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 3: Everybody drink to the face. Oh my god, another one.

2298
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 2: You hold my chair, motherfucker.

2299
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, my god, And I think it left a scar

2300
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 3: shape like an L on his face. So like that

2301
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 3: is awful, Luke.

2302
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 2: People fighting in clubs and ship It's like, dude, what like, yeah,

2303
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,600
Speaker 2: does any let me show of hands? Who goes to

2304
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 2: a club to have a good time? Maybe instead of this, Well, if.

2305
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go, I'll bring the holester with the sweatpants

2306
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 3: plexico burists, you know what I mean? Like, come on, bro,

2307
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

2308
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 2: Also made this point a million times. It's not like

2309
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 2: I never had my fund as a dumbass twenty year

2310
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,799
Speaker 2: old doing shit like this too. But like here's the reality.

2311
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 2: In general, in general, it's not hard to not get

2312
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 2: in a fight at a club. It's not hard. Yeah,

2313
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 2: you kind of have to want one.

2314
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 3: Uh you know what Stephen A say, Luke quit the

2315
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 3: get the weed? What does he say? What's his lame catchphrase?

2316
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 2: Oh please believe it or whatever? The fuck? Dumb shit?

2317
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 3: No, no, the one about weed. He's trying to get

2318
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 3: everybody off the weed. I don't know whatever, All right, Luke,

2319
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what this means. But you know AFL

2320
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 3: Australian Rules Football, we have so many MK Austin fans

2321
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,959
Speaker 3: from the down Under Luke. They want us to celebrate

2322
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 3: Buddy Franklin getting a historical one thousandth goal in the AFL.

2323
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 3: Do you care or know anything about this, because look

2324
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 3: at the fan reaction, Luke, they care down there.

2325
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 2: I had a buddy of mine who was American who

2326
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 2: made one of these teams. Now he was not you know,

2327
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 2: I think he was like a total scrub. And you

2328
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 2: know he only played I think two or three seasons

2329
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 2: in the league. It's a tough ass sport. I don't

2330
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,560
Speaker 2: know shit about it, but I kind of want to

2331
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 2: learn because it looks like a great, great game. Like, dude,

2332
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:54,719
Speaker 2: the Aussie's Dude, I got to go to Australia. Everything

2333
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 2: the Aussees do. I kind of like, I love Australians. Man,

2334
01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 2: I gotta get I gotta get my ass down there.

2335
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,599
Speaker 3: You know that Long Island Luke who's producing this show

2336
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 3: right now, his dad is from down Under. He claims

2337
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 3: his dad is a big AFL fan the Geelong Cats,

2338
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,680
Speaker 3: so shout out. Not to be confused, of course, with

2339
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 3: Australia Luke who works at Malca. This is Long Island Luke,

2340
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:17,960
Speaker 3: whose dad And then there's uh yeah, there's uh people.

2341
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 2: People just talking in the show very comfortably.

2342
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 3: Valdosta. Luke is also here as well. Okay, Luke, shout

2343
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 3: out to Buddy Franklin. Whatever that means, Luke. You know,

2344
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 3: kids say the darnedest things. They also do some really

2345
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 3: dumb ship But check out my man here at the

2346
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:41,719
Speaker 3: Easter concert. I kind of support this, Luke. Who's bad.

2347
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 3: Boom boom boom boom boom. Oh that's great.

2348
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 2: That's that kid's going to coach high school sports one day.

2349
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah he will, Yeah he will. That's great. Uh, Luke.

2350
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 3: Look at how happy this kid was for his own

2351
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 3: birthday and the cake.

2352
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 2: You know what got it that? My man is living

2353
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 2: life to the forks. He's got a backyard party, he's

2354
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 2: got some kool aid, and he was like, you don't

2355
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 2: wanna do with this cake? I'm gonna put that ship

2356
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 2: in my face.

2357
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it's kind of like having sex with

2358
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 3: the apple pie in the center of the uh of

2359
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 3: the island there in your kitchen, Luke. But he went

2360
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 3: for it. He's coming on his mom not happy. Wow, Luke. Uh,

2361
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 3: let's go to the bike trail. I don't know if

2362
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 3: kids this old should be allowed on their own bike

2363
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 3: Luke without like training wheels or like a rope or something.

2364
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 3: It's maybe offensive to some girl dads.

2365
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 2: Luke, oh, into the drink.

2366
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah she Unfortunately she never came back, Luke, but uh

2367
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:45,799
Speaker 3: she did make this show. So wow, good good parenting

2368
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 3: skills right there. And finally, Luke, you know you try.

2369
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 2: To raise put some brakes. One. My kid has this bike.

2370
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 2: They call it the balance bike. You ever seen these? Yes,

2371
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 2: so the balance bike for folks who may not know.

2372
01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:59,799
Speaker 2: It looks like a normal bike and instead of training wheels,

2373
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 2: the just doesn't have pedals. You use your feet to go.

2374
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 2: But a lot of these balance bikes, some of them do,

2375
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 2: but not all of them have brakes.

2376
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 3: It's like most of them don't. Most don't.

2377
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, yo, maybe you take away the pedals,

2378
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:15,719
Speaker 2: that's cool, but maybe put at least like one break

2379
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 2: on this motherfucker. Like they don't put.

2380
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 3: Anybody airbag something. Yeah, yeah, it's something right, Wow, Luca,

2381
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 3: here's the reality until maybe even the age of like

2382
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 3: thirty five. If I'm at a public sporting event and

2383
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 3: the camera comes upon me and I don't have like

2384
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 3: my mom or wife next to me, I'm gonna make

2385
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 3: a Ludd a lude facial experience. I'm just like, it's

2386
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 3: just ingrained in me, Luke to be that guy, you

2387
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 3: know what I mean, I might do something ridiculous, So

2388
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 3: I can't be mad at this kid's parents here at

2389
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 3: the hockey playoffs, Luke. I mean, I mean, maybe that's

2390
01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:00,160
Speaker 3: a little too far, Luke, but uh yeah there.

2391
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 2: I doubt he even really understands what he's doing. But

2392
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 2: you know, shout out to set without Sin in these moments,

2393
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 2: cast the first Stone. And I gotta tell you, I'm

2394
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 2: so glad I grew up in an era where they

2395
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,719
Speaker 2: didn't record all of the dumb shit I ever did.

2396
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 3: Well, look, we actually have video of how that last

2397
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 3: kid was raised. So let's go to that now.

2398
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 2: All right, Oh, that's a that Ladies a winner.

2399
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I hear it promotes good Uh No,

2400
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 3: that's not healthy, Luke, that's not yeah, now hear this?

2401
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right, Okay, let's round it out here, Luke.

2402
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 3: Check out this retro shirt that somebody found that Hooters

2403
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 3: put out after nine to eleven? Is this a good taste?

2404
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,679
Speaker 3: At the bottom, it says, let freedom wing.

2405
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what, Let's let's make sure we sell

2406
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 2: chicken wings of abused animals, and let's let's use the

2407
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 2: massacre of nearly four thousand Americans too.

2408
01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 3: No, like, I don't know when if it's real. I

2409
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 3: don't know when it came out, and I also don't

2410
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 3: know if it's real. But that's so insensitive, ignorant bullshit, Luke.

2411
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,679
Speaker 2: Wow right, I'm surprised the two towers just weren't two

2412
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 2: different wings that they put up there for the eleven

2413
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 2: you know.

2414
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, do you remember the ninety two Olympics in

2415
01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 3: Barcelona where our colleague Rabel Marquez was supposed to come

2416
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,480
Speaker 3: home with a medal.

2417
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 2: I was twelve when that happened, So I remember a

2418
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 2: little bit.

2419
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 3: Remember Dan and Dave Luke?

2420
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 2: That went, well, oh I remember these two jackasses?

2421
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Luke, everybody wants to be Dan and Dave

2422
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 3: until it's time to do Dan and Dave shit.

2423
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like how this dude's an athlete and we

2424
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 2: both could have beat this jump.

2425
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. If you don't remember Dana Dave, they

2426
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 3: eat that, Matt Oh were they They were two decathletes

2427
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,719
Speaker 3: that were that were supposed to be gold medal favorites

2428
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 3: and one of them ended up not even qualifying for

2429
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 3: the games. After the million dollars you know, multimillion dollar

2430
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 3: commercial campaign was already out and in full force.

2431
01:51:58,600 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 2: Luke.

2432
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:02,879
Speaker 3: That was that? That that's stunk. Okay, that did.

2433
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 2: Although he Sheita, who ended up fighting in Pride, got

2434
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:07,879
Speaker 2: a gold medal at the ninety two Barcelona Olympics.

2435
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:11,640
Speaker 3: Oh wow, shout out to that too, Luke. All right, yeah, uh,

2436
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:13,600
Speaker 3: it's time to play Would you eat? Luke? This is

2437
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 3: my favorite? Have you seen this shit game? Let's start

2438
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 3: with this, Luke. I don't know why we're not going

2439
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 3: to Amano's restaurant in Las Vegas because they end up

2440
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 3: on this portion of the show regularly. This is called

2441
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 3: the gondola. Would you take this down? Luke?

2442
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 2: So let me see if I understand this. Is that

2443
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 2: just bread or is that like a col zone?

2444
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 3: I don't, I wouldn't underwant to.

2445
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 2: Let me if I can get it. You got rosemary

2446
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 2: on the side with spaghetti on top, and then vodka

2447
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 2: sauce and then meatballs.

2448
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 3: It looks like yeah, and the spaghetti it looks spectacularly good.

2449
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 3: I mean you look, I would probably ship my pants

2450
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 3: while eating it, but it looks really good.

2451
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 2: Well, listen, as long as someone kept the car running

2452
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 2: after my gallbladder explodes, and you can take me to

2453
01:52:57,479 --> 01:53:00,080
Speaker 2: the hospital. Yeah, I'd eat it.

2454
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,799
Speaker 3: Indeed. Indeed, look how about this one for your daughter's

2455
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 3: next breakfast meal. I'm on the fence whether I would

2456
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 3: accept this, Luke, would you eat this?

2457
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus Hitty fucking Christ.

2458
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's a wow. That's a very aggressive response

2459
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 3: for some fucking pancakes syrup, Luke. Damn wow, all right,

2460
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 3: I mean we've lost our sponsors after that one.

2461
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 2: Great. Sorry, that was just the first thing that came

2462
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 2: to mind. I was like, wow, that is they're just

2463
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 2: finding all new kinds of ways to get sugar in

2464
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:35,520
Speaker 2: kid's bloodstreams.

2465
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:37,719
Speaker 3: I bet you it's I bet you. It's amazing.

2466
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,599
Speaker 2: Of course, of course I try it.

2467
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 3: Damn right. Look how about this one. I'm a hell no,

2468
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 3: but I know you like weird things. They call this

2469
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 3: egg pizza with banana and fish.

2470
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 2: Okay, just just just whoever made this, throw that motherfucker

2471
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 2: in the hague. I mean, just throw him in the

2472
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:58,719
Speaker 2: same ravine and pop his head off like they did

2473
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 2: Sodom Hussein. This This is a fucking crime. The fuck

2474
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:03,440
Speaker 2: the person who made this seriously.

2475
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 3: Wow wow wow stunt out to Stoned Charcoteri on Instagram

2476
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 3: for this gem. Wow. All right, uh, Luke, you know

2477
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 3: this video it's coming. Here's Dana White out to dinner

2478
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:17,600
Speaker 3: with one of the Nelk Boys who are friends with

2479
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 3: his son and for the birthday of this Nelk boy,

2480
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 3: Luke directly from Uncle Dana. How about two hundred and

2481
01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars in a bag, Luke, with no potential

2482
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 3: irs a company along with it that's up to your

2483
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 3: books on that shot.

2484
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 2: It does have paperwork in it.

2485
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 3: I mean sure, okay, maybe maybe this time they're going

2486
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 3: to put that one on the book so they can

2487
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 3: write it off. But Luke, you got to understand that.

2488
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 3: Not only did John S Nash and I look at

2489
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,200
Speaker 3: this and go, oh my god, did you see fighter

2490
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 3: Lewis Smolka quote tweeted like basically, hey boys, when are

2491
01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 3: we forming this union? Wow?

2492
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 2: Luke, I'll tell you what, if you want to make

2493
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 2: money in the UFC, start a podcast that befriends I

2494
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 2: guess the noteboys friends with Dana's son. Is that what

2495
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 2: I understand?

2496
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 3: That's how I've heard it. Yeah, Dana White, the third Yeah,

2497
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 3: that's how I've heard it, Luke.

2498
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just get a podcast that he likes,

2499
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 2: and uh, you'll get a shitload of money. That must

2500
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 2: be nice.

2501
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, you know, do you think we could hang

2502
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 3: with Dana White the Third on a weekend? Yeah?

2503
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 2: He has already lived a life that we couldn't comprehend.

2504
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 3: I think he's probably has had the best wife ever.

2505
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 3: I would probably like to see his DMS. Luke, I'm

2506
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 3: not you know what I mean, I don't. I'm not

2507
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 3: proud that I publicly said that. But it's true. It's

2508
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 3: it's definitely true, Luke, all right, saying.

2509
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 2: Much in the sense that you and I both grew

2510
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 2: up as complete fucking losers. But yeah, you know, fair

2511
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 2: to say that the son of a billy or you know,

2512
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 2: however rich Dana is exceedingly wealthy, has probably had a

2513
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 2: charmed life, a charmed long.

2514
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 3: Look. The only one who could ever please you was,

2515
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 3: in fact the son of a preacher.

2516
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:56,080
Speaker 2: Man, Luke.

2517
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 3: Yes, Uh, let's go to this. We're almost done here.

2518
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 3: My MVP of the week is this cat, Luke.

2519
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 2: Oh, my man, getting busy.

2520
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 3: Oh you know exactly where to go? He knew what

2521
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 3: he wanted. That looks a lot like Reggie Jackson right there.

2522
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 3: Reggie would do that shit.

2523
01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 2: And I can't believe you don't have the video of

2524
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 2: the cat choking out the other cat. Did you see that?

2525
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've seen that, but I tend

2526
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Speaker 3: I don't like too much animal abuse in here, Luke.

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01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 3: I prefer more like senior citizens.

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01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 2: The cat, the cat was not the one who was

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01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 2: getting choked, was not like in serious peril or anything

2530
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, I gotta tell you, boy, cats

2531
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 2: are savage little motherfuckers, aren't they. They are They are

2532
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 2: a little They are sneaky little bastards.

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01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 3: Luke. Future wifler of the Week goes to this woman.

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01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 3: I don't know her name, I don't know her age, sex,

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01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 3: or location, Luke for the most part, but I know

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01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 3: what I see in this video.

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01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 2: Boy, that is not suggestive at all.

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01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 2: What do they call that? Pint? The BUUKOCKI pine?

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01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, there they go. Wow, I can't. I never

2541
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 3: thought it would be you that would bring us under

2542
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 3: where we go? Uh Finally, Luke, you know what I'm

2543
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 3: really about at the end of the day, not bbl's

2544
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 3: elder abuse let's go to the Pinama field. Luke, this

2545
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 3: is one of the best clips in the history of

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01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 3: this show.

2547
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,440
Speaker 2: Grandma bucking wood shampoo.

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01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 3: Boy. Oh my god, Luke. Wow, he broke the Stickluke, Dude.

2549
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 2: And that's what that term, by the way, is what

2550
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 2: that term the wood shampoo is one of my favorite ones.

2551
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 2: There was a time when we got activated after nine

2552
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 2: eleven and they're like, oh, we might have to go

2553
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 2: do crowd control and blah blah blah blah blah. And

2554
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 2: I was like, what does that mean. He goes, that

2555
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 2: might mean some motherfuckers will gonna have to get the

2556
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 2: wood shampoo. And I was like, the wood shampoo, what

2557
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 2: does that mean. He's like, that's when you wrap a

2558
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:50,000
Speaker 2: night stick around someone else's head. And I was like,

2559
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 2: oh my god, Oh right, the wood shampoo. So when

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01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 2: that's what my all time favorite say, boy she got

2561
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 2: the wood shampoo times ten year. That one is.

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01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 3: Your buddy, a Ugaloo boy or a lost boy. Luke.

2563
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 2: Okay, this is true. This is years ago. This is

2564
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 2: during when Obama was president. He would post artwork of

2565
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:14,040
Speaker 2: the Crusades on Facebook. Yeah. Yeah, that kind of guy.

2566
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, was he that guy in the strip club story

2567
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 3: who you just left the guy.

2568
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 2: That's a different guy, a different guy.

2569
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, Luke, do you think anyone will will ever

2570
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 3: top when Michael Kissa gave us on room Service diaries

2571
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 3: this past week. You can watch it now YouTube dot Com,

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Speaker 3: Slash Morning Content.

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01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 2: It's gonna the answer is records were made to be

2574
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 2: broken BC, but that one's gonna stand for a little

2575
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 2: while because that is that is that's sort of what

2576
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 2: the concept of what we had planned was brought to life.

2577
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 2: Like guess it did the very best job of bringing that,

2578
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 2: which is gonna say that all the other conversations aren't good.

2579
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 2: They're great, but uh in terms of what like the

2580
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 2: direct aim was of this particular thing, you know. And

2581
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 2: it's tough because sometimes we get these fighters who are

2582
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 2: in camp or they can't you know, they got to

2583
01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 2: be careful with their diet or whatever. But we got

2584
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 2: kiss just the right time, so it paid off.

2585
01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 3: Well. I like that they're different, you know what. I

2586
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 3: want them all to be exactly like this. Well, yeah,

2587
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,120
Speaker 3: give them a choice, yes, but we do get different

2588
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 3: field the josh imn't want to different tones, Luke. I

2589
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:11,840
Speaker 3: can't wait for people to watch the Riiyah faber one

2590
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 3: that's gonna come out that's got a completely different tone.

2591
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 2: All right, it certainly does. Listen, we got to get

2592
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 2: a move on cause, uh the I'm gonna turn back

2593
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 2: into a pumpkin here because I gotta take care of

2594
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 2: your kid.

2595
01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for giving me the floor for two hours. Look,

2596
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:27,040
Speaker 3: I hope we gave the people something you know, worth,

2597
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 3: you know, worth worth taking your time for.

2598
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,920
Speaker 2: Is whether we certainly did. It's want to remind folks. Uh,

2599
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:35,280
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Speaker 2: and we'll be back with a Friday show very soon.

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