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Speaker 1: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 1: Up Podcast, a big one. We finally get to talk

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Speaker 1: about a Carlos Mendoza, officially the manager of the New

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Speaker 1: York Mets, introduced today at a press conference with David Stearns.

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Speaker 1: James Shechiano live on the scene with some notes and

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Speaker 1: news and info about what was going on, Questions being asked,

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Speaker 1: and just the entire experience as well as we have

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Speaker 1: some roster moves that have gone on, talk about some

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Speaker 1: free agent stuff, and your boy Mark went, I went

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Speaker 1: to the Dominicans Winter League game out at Cityfield between

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Speaker 1: the t Grays Daily Se and the Guillas de Si Buenos.

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Speaker 1: I believe is how you pronounce it. I think I

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Speaker 1: did that one pretty well. Shout out to taking Spanish

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Speaker 1: in college. But you guys know the Joe. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: and subscribe. James, how is the press conference? Say how

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Speaker 1: you feeling? Press conference was great?

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Speaker 2: Lots of just amazing vibes for anybody who was watching

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Speaker 2: or listening or saw anything on social media as it

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Speaker 2: related to Carlos Mendoza today officially being introduced as the

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Speaker 2: next manager of the Mets.

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Speaker 1: Can wait. A lot of good feelings, a lot of

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Speaker 1: good buzz in the air, lots of just.

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Speaker 2: Lots of reporters everywhere, lots of cameras, lots of flashing lights,

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Speaker 2: lots lots of quaft hair, lots of suits and ties.

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Speaker 1: A lot of good stuff there, some not so good

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Speaker 1: stuff some of the reporters.

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Speaker 2: It's just like some of the questions, I'm like, there

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Speaker 2: needs to be some more positivity and this is like

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Speaker 2: a great day for the organization.

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of goods happening here.

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Speaker 2: There's a manager with great pedigree, great background, He's saying

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Speaker 2: all the right things, and it's just like some people

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Speaker 2: are just really trying to dig.

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Speaker 1: But I was thrilled. I was really excited.

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Speaker 2: I know you missed the press conference, but it was

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Speaker 2: really nice to be there, really nice to hear a

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Speaker 2: lot of people have to say, really nice to feel

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Speaker 2: the excitement from Carlos himself, his family, David Stearns, everyone

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Speaker 2: else in the organization.

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Speaker 1: Great day all around. Yeah, very cool to hear him

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Speaker 1: talk as well, because obviously he was the bench coach

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Speaker 1: the media very often, if ever, so there wasn't really

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of information on Carlos Mendoza made availab

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Speaker 1: to us outside of stories and essentially just like anecdotes

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Speaker 1: from people about what kind of person he was, what

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Speaker 1: kind of coach he had been, what kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: leader they saw him when he was there with the

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Speaker 1: Yankees and throughout his minor league coaching history, And to

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Speaker 1: be honest, everything that I was able to hear prior

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Speaker 2: And again just like everything it was, what he was

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Speaker 2: saying was great and we'll share I'll share my notes

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Speaker 2: about everything that was going on there, but just the

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Speaker 2: way he was saying, he was so excited, like you

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Speaker 2: could feel that this was a culmination of very much

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Speaker 2: a lifetime of work a thirteen year player in the

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Speaker 2: coming over fro Venezuela to make that decision him and

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Speaker 2: his wife. He talked about the fact that when he

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Speaker 2: left it behind us. She said, pursue this dream with me. Okay, right,

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Speaker 2: like either die right there. Wonderful family man. His kids

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, and it was dorrible, and he kept saying

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Speaker 2: And you've got the actual call from David Stearns to

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Speaker 1: That's really cool. Yeah, I mean, like some of the

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Speaker 1: super excited for someone who, let's be honest, at the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that might have been opposite. I think

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Speaker 1: I think he didn't play. I'm looking at it. At

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Speaker 2: But he also when he started coaching, he kind of

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Speaker 2: the infield coach. I think was the infield coach right

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Speaker 2: we're going to apply it, because that's two very big

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Speaker 2: know a lot of this information, how it can help

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Speaker 2: the team, but the issue is relating it to the players,

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Speaker 2: getting it from point A to point B. And the

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Speaker 2: fact that was Carls Mendoza's first role in a major

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Speaker 2: what he can bring as a collaborators to this organization

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Speaker 2: because that's exactly what he and David Searn said many, many,

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Speaker 2: many times during his press conversation. That was the big

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Speaker 2: theme here. Collaboration, collaboration. We want everyone to be working.

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Speaker 1: Together to get make this product the best it could

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Speaker 1: And super excited that the Mets are going to be

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Speaker 1: the last time the Metro law seeking a manager. Shout

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Speaker 1: It's it's you feel like you can understand how important

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Speaker 1: Just talk to him. Doesn't have to be like how

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Speaker 2: Like we know how much of a struggle is anybody out

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Speaker 2: birthday week. And he said he literally had a decision

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Speaker 2: to make thirty years ago whether or not he was

436
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Speaker 2: going to do baseball or being an engineer like his dad.

437
00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,400
Speaker 2: He said they're both both good options for him. And

438
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Speaker 2: he said that this was like again, like I said before,

439
00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,840
Speaker 2: this was felt like the culmination of all that they

440
00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,399
Speaker 2: never got to become a big league player. But now

441
00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,520
Speaker 2: he is the manager of the Mets, which is very cool.

442
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Speaker 2: And he said that the things that David Stearns really

443
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Speaker 2: pushed to him during the interview process was his four

444
00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:20,160
Speaker 2: important things, which were culture, people, preparation, and relationships, which

445
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Speaker 2: that sounds very corporate America, which made me like kind

446
00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:23,920
Speaker 2: of giggle a little bit, but I was like, all right, nice,

447
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,280
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. And he was addressing the

448
00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,320
Speaker 2: fact that, like he had never managed the big league

449
00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,000
Speaker 2: level before, but just talked about the benches he's been

450
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Speaker 2: on his entire career, between being Aaron Moon's bench coach

451
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Speaker 2: and Aary Bone got thrown out a lot of games,

452
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Speaker 2: so there were a lot of times across me those

453
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Speaker 2: was making decisions and then being a manager in the

454
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Speaker 2: minor leagues and the winter leagues. And also the fact

455
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Speaker 2: that this another thing I thought was really important in

456
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Speaker 2: the process. And now we're going back on four consecutive

457
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Speaker 2: managers the Mets have hired who have had this in

458
00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,600
Speaker 2: common experience and exposure to New York City. Yes, I

459
00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,600
Speaker 2: think it's a very important thing. He knows is like

460
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Speaker 2: start giggling. He was like, I know passionate you guys are,

461
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,879
Speaker 2: which is a correct translation. I know you guys are nuts,

462
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Speaker 2: and I know how the expectations of hire.

463
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Speaker 1: I know you guys want to win. That that's my all.

464
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Speaker 1: That's my goals. Fans, nuts, fans crazy always. We always

465
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Speaker 1: have satan takes. We've never said anything irrational. Culture came

466
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Speaker 1: up a lot, but he wasn't saying that. He was

467
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Speaker 1: trying to build a new culture. He was saying.

468
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Speaker 2: He was like, I don't know if you guys remember,

469
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Speaker 2: but two years ago you just team won one hundred games.

470
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Speaker 2: The most players are the same. So I want to

471
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Speaker 2: build on that culture. I want to keep cultivating that culture.

472
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Speaker 2: Like there already is a culture here, Like I want

473
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Speaker 2: to fit into that culture and then improve that culture.

474
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Speaker 2: But I'm not I'm not resetting anything here Like that

475
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Speaker 2: was I think, I mean important thing.

476
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Speaker 1: That's like what David Stertin says. To remember. He was like,

477
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Speaker 1: the guys are here, like I'm going to talk to him.

478
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to make him do anything that they're

479
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Speaker 1: not gonna be successful with. So I kind of like

480
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Speaker 1: that talk about being on the same page. These are

481
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Speaker 1: good things right now.

482
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And then another couple of cool things. The plan

483
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Speaker 2: compete this year and this is about winning championships.

484
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Speaker 1: Of course always three five years.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, three the five years was still in the window.

486
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Speaker 2: He said, we still gotta have fun. He said, we

487
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Speaker 2: gotta have fun. He talked about that, it's like it's

488
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Speaker 2: a long season. Baseball is a game, and like, there

489
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,680
Speaker 2: needs to be fun these guys. You gotta be happy

490
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Speaker 2: to come to work. He got to be happy to

491
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Speaker 2: the people you're working with. And that all comes from

492
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Speaker 2: I think, just like a changing of the vibe that

493
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Speaker 2: we're starting to feel here.

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody takes a deep breath, like we saw last

495
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Speaker 1: year at times, I'm sure you guys too, Like it

496
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 1: felt like the players were a little tight. It felt

497
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Speaker 1: like this was a team that was like, we're supposed

498
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Speaker 1: to be in the World Series. We're not playing like

499
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Speaker 1: a World Series team. We need to do it right now,

500
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Speaker 1: and if we don't, the season is going to fall apart.

501
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Speaker 1: And it felt like at times everybody was super super

502
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Speaker 1: tight and super super stressed. So if everybody just take

503
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Speaker 1: a deep breath, he's gonna relax. Everybody calmed down. We

504
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Speaker 1: have good players. This is this is a there's a

505
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Speaker 1: core of really really good players on this team, and

506
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Speaker 1: like you said, the culture was already there. This team

507
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Speaker 1: won one hundred games two seasons ago. Just get back

508
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Speaker 1: to playing that baseball that they can and they can

509
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Speaker 1: be very very good, very good.

510
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Speaker 2: And then he did talk about it like I like

511
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 2: the roster. He's like, I know it's work to do,

512
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,359
Speaker 2: and he looked at David, David looked at him. They

513
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 2: both kind of giggled a little bit, but then they

514
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Speaker 2: were like, I like it. I really genuinely like what

515
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,679
Speaker 2: we have here and there too. Yeah, right, And they

516
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Speaker 2: talked about the fact that since he came from like

517
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Speaker 2: two different baseball disciplines as a longtime minor league player

518
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Speaker 2: and as a long time coach. When he became a

519
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 2: player in nineteen ninety six, baseball was still you know, details,

520
00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 2: play the game the right way, fundamental first average. They

521
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 2: still have that still inside of me. But then he

522
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 2: became a coach in two thousand and nine as the

523
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 2: information analytics wave kind of came through the league, and

524
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Speaker 2: that really came through the league when he was still

525
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Speaker 2: a coach through the twenty tens in the last few years.

526
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Speaker 2: So he said, I have that too, Like I have

527
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Speaker 2: both these things in me, and you guys can get

528
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Speaker 2: guarantee that these both of these methodologies of coaching are

529
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Speaker 2: going to come through with the team of mine, Like

530
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Speaker 2: that's going to be a way that we're identified.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that was also really nice.

532
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Speaker 2: I thought that was another thing that I feel like

533
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Speaker 2: a lot of fans are concerned or nervous about Yeah,

534
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 2: any team goes too hard in one direction, you're a

535
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Speaker 2: little nervous about it. And again, this is like very

536
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Speaker 2: different people and two sides concerned about either of these things,

537
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 2: like bleeding too much into the other. But I think

538
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 2: the best part of the baseball said you need to

539
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Speaker 2: kind of use both of them a little bit in

540
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Speaker 2: the right ways. And again he seems like just he's

541
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Speaker 2: so ready to collaborate and talk to people and like

542
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Speaker 2: manage these relationships. Another fun thing. This guy wrestles me

543
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Speaker 2: a little bit. So he cannot wait to have deep

544
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Speaker 2: baseball conversation with Gary Keith and Ron. Specifically, he said

545
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Speaker 2: Gary Keith and Ron, And you knew he like kind

546
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Speaker 2: of wrote this one down because he looked down when

547
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Speaker 2: he was saying it and he cracked a little smile

548
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Speaker 2: and I got a little chuckle. But I was like, yeah, cool,

549
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 2: those are those are the guys here, and like that's

550
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 2: nice that you're giving them importance. I mean, we had

551
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Speaker 2: a chance to have a little baseball conversation with them

552
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 2: during the rain delay with the Marlins game when we're

553
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 2: sitting in the press cafeteria watching the Mariners Rangers game.

554
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Speaker 2: They're they're asking questions about the pictures, and we got

555
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Speaker 2: me and James talking to Gary Keith and Ron just

556
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Speaker 2: rattling off information about jose Leclerk and Jonathan Hernandez.

557
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Speaker 1: We're like, huh, miss is so cool, Like it's cool

558
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Speaker 1: that he also feels that as well.

559
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Speaker 2: He's like Cara has really come along to Hither. I

560
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 2: was like, he really has big dumper. Yeah, big dumper.

561
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Speaker 2: I should drop big dumper. The garret he would have been,

562
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Speaker 2: he would probably never talk to us again. And the

563
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Speaker 2: last thing you talked about a lot was just there's

564
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Speaker 2: a good question from Jake Mint's assessments Barbecue Fox Sports

565
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: just about who were his like not I don't remember

566
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Speaker 2: the exact wordy thing he used. It was good, like

567
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 2: that's managerial icons or idols, but just people he like

568
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: kind of emulates to what he coaches after And he

569
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Speaker 2: went immediately to three people, well not three people differently.

570
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Speaker 1: Well, one was Rob Thompson, he said. Rob Thomps has

571
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Speaker 1: been a mentor to him. Rob Thompson, I know a

572
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Speaker 1: lot of people now know him as the int coach

573
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Speaker 1: turned head manager of the Phillies who got them the

574
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Speaker 1: World Series taken him two deep playoff runs now and

575
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Speaker 1: back to back years, but it's been twenty seven years

576
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Speaker 1: in the Yankee organization before that, and a lot of

577
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Speaker 1: those years were with Carlos Mendez just being a little

578
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Speaker 1: bit older than him.

579
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Speaker 2: So we said that is somebody who he's looked up to.

580
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Speaker 2: He was very congratulatory of, and he's excited to have

581
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Speaker 2: a little rival with him. And you also mentioned something

582
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Speaker 2: interesting that the Internet has gone haywire with. None of

583
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 2: these words were said, but Willy Randolph, Oh, very specifically

584
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Speaker 2: that Willy Randolph was someone that he's always looked up to.

585
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Speaker 2: He's always had a great relationship with baseball relationship because

586
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Speaker 2: those nineties two thousand Yankees teams, Willi Randolph was a coach,

587
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: and those teams, all of them through the way, and

588
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Speaker 2: Willie Randolph is a legend for lack of a better term.

589
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Speaker 2: And he said that he's someone he looks up to

590
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Speaker 2: a lot. And then this one is not someone he's

591
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Speaker 2: emulating his game after, but someone he's close with. Because

592
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Speaker 2: also surprising to me, not sure if a lot of

593
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Speaker 2: people know this, but Carls Mendeuz is only the second

594
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Speaker 2: Venezuelan born manager in the history of the league.

595
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Speaker 1: Yep, and the.

596
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Speaker 2: Only other one, the only one also to win a

597
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Speaker 2: ring azii en. Yes, and Mendoza said he has a

598
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Speaker 2: great relationship. He played with him back in the day

599
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Speaker 2: and he was one of the first people I called

600
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: him congratulating him talking about this, right, I thought, I

601
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: was like, that's really cool that, like there are only

602
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Speaker 2: two of you guys in this fraternity and you have

603
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Speaker 2: a relationship, Like that's amazing.

604
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Speaker 1: We know our buddy Ernie.

605
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Speaker 2: We talked about in the podcast a lot also in

606
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Speaker 2: Native Venezuelan is elated as this has happened, like this

607
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: kind of maybe might have reinvigorated his love for the

608
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: mess which is bad news for us. But it's crazy

609
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Speaker 2: at the country that's so rich in baseball history, like

610
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Speaker 2: Venezuela is only a second manager and the top of it.

611
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Speaker 2: On that he talked about Louis Aparicio, who is the

612
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 2: only Venezuelan and born player in the Baseball Hall of Fame,

613
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Speaker 2: the fact that he actually played for him in the

614
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Speaker 2: Venezuela Winter League years and years ago. He even said

615
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: that Crossmandos are growing up. As a child lived in

616
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Speaker 2: the same apartment complex as Luis a Parisio and used

617
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Speaker 2: to write Elevator with him when he was a toddler.

618
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Speaker 2: What I was looking around like are you serious? And

619
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Speaker 2: like I was at the next Keith Ryde was like,

620
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Speaker 2: oh my, how could that be real? Like is that

621
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Speaker 2: a serious and like yeah, he told a couple of

622
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: stories about I was like, oh yeah, he's really within

623
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Speaker 2: this web of these like like legendary Venezuelan ball players.

624
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Speaker 1: So I think it's a good spot to be. You know,

625
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Speaker 1: Elsa Venezuelan. Oh wow to Squalvrez, Yes, Francis Gualaverrez is

626
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: also Venezuela, and and Luis an Hilcunya, Yes, also Venezuelan.

627
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: And you're right, yes, but just so many good things

628
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: like so many, so many great things, and so much

629
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Speaker 2: positive energy.

630
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Speaker 1: He was so excited.

631
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: He was like I'm ready for this, like I want this,

632
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 2: like I know I can do it. I can't wait

633
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: for you guys have watched me do it.

634
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Speaker 1: No, it's nice to see some energy, a little bit

635
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: of vibes, a little bit of like ready to go.

636
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: I mean he's what forty three years old, so a

637
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a change of pace from what we've

638
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: been used to the last couple of years. But I'm

639
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: excited for Carlos Mendoza. I'm happy that he was the choice.

640
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm super excited to see what he can do. And

641
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: I just I plead to all the Mets fans out

642
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: there who are whatever side you're on, just everyone just

643
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: take a deep breath. Let's see what he does, Let's

644
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: see how he is. Give him a shot. Give him

645
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: a shot. That's that's all I can ask for from

646
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: the fans that are freaking out on the side where

647
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: they're like, oh my god, first time manager. It's like,

648
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: just just give him a shot. Why are you making

649
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Speaker 1: a decision before you see anything even happen. The season's

650
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Speaker 1: not even close. It's not even twenty twenty four yet.

651
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Speaker 2: Especially when everyone has so many good things to say,

652
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: everyone should go check out them. Will Salmon, friend of

653
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 2: the Show's article on The Athletic from a few days

654
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: ago about just stories from around the league about mendoz

655
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: about but more about tenure with the Yankees because he

656
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: was there for so long and things that he did.

657
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: There was a great story he told about after twenty

658
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: twenty one season, when he was already.

659
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: The bench coach.

660
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 2: Also just talked a lot about how prepared he was,

661
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: his bench coach just absolutely maniacal. Heard that apparently after

662
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, the Yankees were near the bottom of

663
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: the league, controlling the wrong game, both how big of

664
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: leeds players were getting and then players success rate and steals,

665
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: and he said that Mendoza went to the front office,

666
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: to different analytic departments he was directed to and was like,

667
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: how do we fix this, and took their plan of

668
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: action and then created his own training methodology to bring

669
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: to spring training that year, and then he got everyone

670
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: on the same page, and the Yankees in twenty twenty

671
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: two led the league in apon opponent stolen bases.

672
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Speaker 1: WHOA, yeah, right, isn't that crazy? And then it is crazy?

673
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Blake, I remember, I think it was the Yankees'

674
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: pitching coach, So I think he was very probably in

675
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: this process was basically just saying this direct quote from

676
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: this article. He was pushing a lot of us to

677
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: not just challenge just as quo, but to make sure

678
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: that our work has been thorough and that it's been

679
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: through the ringer, and that would feel good about presenting

680
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: it to the players. A lot a lot les I'm

681
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 2: gonna tell you guys about his press conference. A lot

682
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: of what Mendoza talked about was not being afraid to

683
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: have these difficult conversations with players, keep people accountable, and

684
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: keep on challenging them to be better, which is something

685
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: that I think a lot of Mets fans kind of

686
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: question with this team over like the last calendar year,

687
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: where it's like, what, like why is this not better?

688
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: Like why these guys not playing their potential?

689
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: Like people talk about that a lot, Like basically every

690
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: guy on our roster underperformed last year. Almost every single

691
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: guy under perform basically besides like maybe Lindor and Nimo

692
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: kind of basically.

693
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: And Code, And of course he's defferent shout.

694
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: Out code that second in the Rookie of the Year ballot,

695
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: three people left them off their ballot.

696
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: They're dead to us. One they left them off. Three

697
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: people left them off the ballot, dead dead to us. Wait,

698
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, okay, finish what you're saying. Then

699
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna yell about that. Right.

700
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 2: But again, just the fact that he's like, I'm gonna

701
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: be in a nitty gritty I'm gonna bring things to

702
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: the front office, bring it back to the players. I'm

703
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: gonna challenge people, I'm gonna make people be better, and

704
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna push every single person I can while building

705
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: these relationships.

706
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. I think he's a great, great, great,

707
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: great great fit super I mean, we joked about it.

708
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: We were saying, like during the off season, We're like,

709
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: we want Mets fans to be mad about whoever they hire,

710
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: and like there were some that were mad, and obviously

711
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the overwhelming reaction, but I think

712
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: by most are like, Okay, let's give this guy a shot.

713
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: But it is funny, like to see on Twitter people

714
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: be like, wow, this guy, why do we hire this guy?

715
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: Why do we get so and so? Why do we

716
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: get him? And it's like, oh, perfect, this is exactly

717
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: where I want you. I want you to be a

718
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: little upset because that means it's the right choice exactly,

719
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: and that is hilariosly, it is kind of what we wanted.

720
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: But it's perfect. Yeah, perfect. So all right, back to Code,

721
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: I sanging now because now I need to yell a

722
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: little bit. Do you have the other name? So it

723
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: was Keith Law and who else that left Code eye off?

724
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: It was Keith Law, someone from Atlanta, of course, and

725
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: someone else whose name I did not recognize. Is it

726
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: Dave O'Brien from Atlanta? Was it that guy might have

727
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: been Davil Brian. I mean, I'd almost hip the cap

728
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: there as like, because I totally leave a Brave off

729
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: if I had the opportunity to, just because like hate

730
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: the Braves so much with every bone in my body.

731
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: But Keith Law. Expect better at Keith Law. He's a

732
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: national baseball guy. I'll tell you this.

733
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: I bet that Keith Lauw did that because he's such

734
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: a prospect town like that's his whole life is like

735
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: making bad prospect rankings for the athletic. So I think

736
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: that he's like, this is not a rookie. You know

737
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is someone like I would like to

738
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: see on the other side if he also left Mastako

739
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: Yoshida office ballot, because I think then that will be

740
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: the click.

741
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: Like that's why I don't think it has agregious guy

742
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: I do.

743
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: I can see conceptually it's not really true, but I

744
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: can see conceptually why someone would be like, he's not

745
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: really a rookie.

746
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: Sure, okay, I get that he's pitching with.

747
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: A different ball in a different country, at a different mounds

748
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: and a different different days of rest. But yeah, nevertheless,

749
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: he's still doing something totally know but I do seek

750
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: exceptually there.

751
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: But whoever did on Atlanta dead to me? Yeah, well,

752
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: of course Atlanta, we hate that city anyway. Yeah, but

753
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: and that was that. Yeah, it was nice to code.

754
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: I get that recognition, very cool. And yeah that was

755
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: it for the Friendy Awards stuff for the Mets. Yeah,

756
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Francisco Indoor obviously won the Silver Slugger.

757
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: I believe that was right after we spoke the last

758
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: time on here. So shout out to Francisco Indoor, one

759
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: of the best shortstops in all of Major League Baseball,

760
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: best be shortstop in the National without a doubt. Happy birthday, Francisco.

761
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday, Francisco. And let's talk a little bit about

762
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: free agency before we wrap up the episode here, because

763
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: that's just kind of what we're gonna do every single episode.

764
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: There's been no real rumors, no real news, no real

765
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: anything besides Penn Murphy going to the Braves. But otherwise

766
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: I don't think there's really much else besides just some

767
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: guys that maybe we want to send our attention to

768
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: a little bit that we really like. So, James, I'm

769
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: gonna give you the floor for the first guy you

770
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: want to talk about. Well, the Penmer. Everything is funny.

771
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: I want to address it, like briefly, just because I

772
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: was excited about it, because I was like, oh, here's

773
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: a free reliever with a bunch of control. And then

774
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: it seemed like he got in the building and we

775
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: don't know what happened. Maybe the mester is like, we

776
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: just rather have this spot open, so we're gonna pass

777
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: him through waivers just to get him to the sixty

778
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: day il without putting them on the forty man roster

779
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: and then the Braves. So I think the waiver line

780
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: still goes based on regular season standings. So I think

781
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: they were the last team with the opportunity to grab him,

782
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: So I think that also might just be like, let's

783
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: just get him. They know we could put them through

784
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: waivers again because no one else described to claim them.

785
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: Maybe then we could just do this. Maybe it'll all

786
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: just be like, let's just like throw the Mets a

787
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: jab at the beginning of the off season.

788
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: But the Mets also I've got him in the building

789
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: and looked at his medicals and been like, maybe this

790
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: just isn't it, Like, maybe we know he's gonna miss

791
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: a whole twenty twenty four season. We don't want to

792
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: take this forty man roster spot when a guy's not

793
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: gonna pitch the entire year. We saw the last few

794
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: years how crunch that forty man roster can get. So

795
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: I think that is something that hilariously, I think all

796
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: the Mess fans are going are just going crazy about

797
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: right now. I love I love seeing the engagement some

798
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: of these sweets about guys like Penn Murphy no one

799
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: knew existed three weeks ago.

800
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: Who people are saying, people were mad at you for

801
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: being like and I'm pretty excited about theim like he's

802
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: not gonna pitch for a year, Like who cares? And

803
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: now that he's gone, they're like, I can't believe we

804
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: let him go. It's like common sterns that. But if

805
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: there was a lineup of fifteen of five people, you

806
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: couldn't pick ped Murphy out of lineup, No, literally no chance.

807
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: And before we do free ages up, just another just

808
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: following up on things that are actually done as of today,

809
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: the Mess they have to finalize the forty man roster,

810
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: which Swy Murphy was on waivers. The only player we

811
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: added was Alex Ramirez, so now he's on a forty

812
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: man roster, hopefully gets the upper miners this year and

813
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: just gets out of Brooklyn where the Wins just just

814
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: knocks down every single fly ball. And now we're only

815
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: out thirty three players on our forty men roster, which

816
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: feels low. So it definitely feels like the non tender deadline.

817
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: The rule five feels like we're gonna be active, more

818
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: active than years past there, which is nice.

819
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, gott Toll at least put seven guys

820
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: on that to fill up the like there's either gonna

821
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: be guys coming up or there's gonna be new guys

822
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: brought in. So let's talk about maybe some new guys

823
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: that could be brought in. I got one, but want

824
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you take it first, Like I.

825
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: Said, yeah, take it first. Who am I gonna talk about?

826
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: Who didn't I get to talk about last week? That

827
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: I want to talk about. You know there's some deep

828
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: pitcher you got, Yeah, there's there's two. Actually I'd like

829
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: to talk about kind of weirdly. Weirdly, I would love

830
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: to just briefly discuss Kyle Gibson.

831
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: I'll let you get on your Kyle Gibson soapbox and

832
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: see what you got. Kyle Gibson basically just learned a

833
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: new sweeper last year within the Origeles organization, and it

834
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: became a second most throwne pitch. I got forty seven

835
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: percent with rate, I got lots of soft contact. That

836
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: the second best run value for any sweep or in baseball.

837
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: It still didn't really lead to him being super successful,

838
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: but he led to him what eating just many, many,

839
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: many many innings for a team in the Baltimore Oriols

840
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: that need the innings to be eaten, because that rotation

841
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: for the entire year was just kind of believe he threw.

842
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: I want to see last year hymn his full career

843
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: right now.

844
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: Last year Kyle Gibson threw one hundred and ninety two

845
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: innings that was probably top fifteen in baseball.

846
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: The guest consertively ERA was still four point seven.

847
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: But you guys also remember we have to change the

848
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: way we look at the right now because last year

849
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: the league, why the RA was I think four point four,

850
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: So that kind of changes where a league averages, so

851
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: he is it was not a good the ra it

852
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: was worse than league average, but it was better than

853
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 2: what the four point seven would have been the year

854
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: before that or the year before that.

855
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: And I think the.

856
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: Cooles thing about Gibson is that there probably is still

857
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: some more fine tuning you can do with his repertoire.

858
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 2: And again I'm talking about Kyle Gibson. I'm like, this

859
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: is this is a fifth start there, Yes, this is

860
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: the guy. This is going to be like what Bartolo

861
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: Colonne used to be. Like He's going to show up

862
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: and just throw six innings and move the ball around

863
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: and like make Kider's annoyed once in a while and

864
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: be like, all right, he just gave up six rounds

865
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: of two winnings, So let's get the bask going through

866
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 2: how to win this one. But we just we need

867
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: innings right now. Guys, you saw how Crow tied the

868
00:32:59,240 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: guy last year.

869
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: He basically needs to add like what three hundred and

870
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 1: fifty eight conservatively to be able to really compete next

871
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: year like we really want to do.

872
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: And gives them through six pitches last year. So this

873
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: is why I think is cool. There's six to them

874
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: at least eight percent of the time, but he really

875
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: only used the sinker and the sweeper against righty's while

876
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: he was using all the rest of them, a col

877
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: a fastball, a curveball, change up against lefties. So the

878
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: fact that he's basically two different pitches against guys from

879
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: two different sides of the plate, I think is interesting.

880
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: It's just the fact that, again he's someone who can

881
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: give a floor of a ton of innings. He won't

882
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: cost a lot of money money, and there's like a

883
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: modicum of upside to become like, I don't know, like

884
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: a guy with an era that might start with a

885
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: three three to nine three nine, one hundred and seventy

886
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: five innings this and you sign him for one year,

887
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: seven and a half ten million dollars.

888
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: Where that's it. We're taking the ticker tape perreak, James.

889
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: Will you be buying a Kyle Gibson jersey if he's

890
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: a Met.

891
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: If Kyle Gibbs a Met and he and he gets

892
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 2: out of April in the rotation, I'll buy a Kyle

893
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: Gibson Jerseys.

894
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I heard it here first in the mets of

895
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: the podcast Make It Happen. David Stearns for me, some

896
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: guy that I've I've been convince myself more and more

897
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: and again, Sorry, we're not gonna talking about Schoey Otana.

898
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: You guys know about these guys, Like, we're not gonna

899
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: be like, hey, you know who the Mets, you'd sign

900
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: the best player in baseball? We did that last episode.

901
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: You know all about it. We're gonna get into the

902
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: nitty gritty. So why you listen to the Metsu podcast.

903
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: But I've been really convincing myself on Giovanni or Schella

904
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: the past like week and a half, and I think

905
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: it's just because good depth piece. He can play third base.

906
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: Last year he played every single infield position, third, first, shortstop, second,

907
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: He's had some good years in the past, obviously, you

908
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: know him with the Yankees. Now with the former Yankees

909
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: bench coach as well. I feel like maybe there could

910
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: be a little connection there. Just trying to connect the

911
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: dots here, little Pepe Sylvia action. But yeah, I just

912
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: I like that he plays all positions. I like that

913
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: he has a good enough glove at all those positions

914
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: as well, and at worst, it seems like he's basically

915
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: a league average hitter. At worse, So for a guy

916
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: coming off the bench who gives us defensive versatility. You

917
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: know how much we love to talk about filling out

918
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: the twenty six men that could be on this roster

919
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: and have some actual value. I think a guy like

920
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: Gio urshela thirty two years old, short little contract to

921
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: get him to back up some guys.

922
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, get him back up some guys. I'm gonna say

923
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: one that really just might send people up the wall, right.

924
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: I know where you're going. I know where you're going.

925
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 2: I talked to you about this last week, a couple

926
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: of days ago, and I think that's someone that adds

927
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: a lot of things.

928
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: This met's roster right now needs former money. He might

929
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: be a former met. It needs some versatility and needs

930
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: some athleticism, and he needs like a cheap backup player

931
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: with just a hint of upside. And you know who

932
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: weirdly fills that role right now? Who's out there in

933
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: the scrap heat. I think I think the people are

934
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: getting their tomatoes ready for you, James. I'm ed Rosario.

935
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: There it is, guys.

936
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: I'm talking one year, four or five million dollars, like

937
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: the same kind of contract that you give to basically

938
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: a twenty fifth, twenty six man on your roster. I'm

939
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: not saying I'm Rosari is gonna come back and be

940
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: the like, the like, the app the star trot we

941
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: always thought it was going to be when he was

942
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: mistakenly ranked a number one overall prospect in baseball. I'm

943
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: telling you this, someone who after he was sent to

944
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: the Dodgers last year, was positive defensive value at shortstop,

945
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: which is crazy to think about because he's really just

946
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: never ever looked even close to that. Last year, in

947
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: only half a season with the Guardians, he was minus

948
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: fifteen OHAA, which is deplorable, and he didn't play that.

949
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: But again, I'm not telling you, guys, I want, I'm

950
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: to desire you're taking even two hundred at bats in

951
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: this team.

952
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, as someone who is.

953
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: That drive line right now, Asaro has always had pretty

954
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: good plate skill, now good play skills, that's not the word.

955
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: Good back control, good back and kill.

956
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: Knows how to put his bat on the ball, doesn't

957
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: strike out, doesn't swing and miss, We'll expand the strike sown.

958
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: He'll never not do that. That was the one thing

959
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: that was always stopping him.

960
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: Guess what it totally stopped him, but as someone who

961
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 2: puts the ball in play, runs really really fast still

962
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: and could probably give you just a little bit of

963
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: defensive value all over the infield, and now has experienced

964
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: playing in the outfield, like as the last guy on

965
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: your bench, that's a useful guy. Like I think, like

966
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: we've had last year Tim Lacastro, someone who was on

967
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: the on our bench, where like we love having his

968
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: speed on our bench. Yes, I'm ai is as fast

969
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: Tim la Castro, and he's a better player than everything else.

970
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: So I think that is something that it's stupid, it's

971
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: it's bad, but I'm just like this. These are the

972
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: kinds of contracts that David Seerns kind of that kind

973
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: of made him.

974
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: Famous when he was with the Milwaukee Brewers.

975
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: Finding a last on your roster you think is going

976
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: to be worth zero point zero war and he winds

977
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: up being worth one point zero war, Like that can

978
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: change a lot. That could be a winner two that

979
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: gets you into the playoffs, supposed to being at home

980
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: at the end of the season. And I think that's

981
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: kind of thing that we're going to see And it

982
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: might feel really ugly and might feel really disgusting, but

983
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: those are the kind of moves that we're going to

984
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: see be made.

985
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: One pitture that I've been looking at a little bit

986
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: more Yariel Rodriguez. I don't know if you've done your

987
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: research on him, but Cuban who was pitching the MPB

988
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: the last few years. He defected from the World Baseball

989
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Classic from Team Cuba. He was pitching for them, pitched

990
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: pretty well, I think seven to the third innings, ten strikeouts,

991
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: six walks, two runs during the World Baseball Classic, and

992
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: then he just stayed in the Dominican Republic. Is put

993
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: on the restricted list. Defected from Cuba because he wanted

994
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: to eventually come to the major leagues twenty seven years

995
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: of age, or at least he will be next year

996
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: when he's playing, and the scout report is that he

997
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: could be a starter, he could be a reliever. The

998
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: last year in Japan, which was twenty twenty two in

999
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: which he pitched professionally, he was used in the relief role,

1000
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 1: but the numbers were still really good and he does

1001
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: have some good stuff. He has a live fastball one

1002
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: one and fifty four innings in twenty twenty two, uh

1003
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: two nine twenty twenty one, and that was mostly as

1004
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: a starter. So a guy that should be a relatively

1005
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: cheap option that could be a back into the rotation,

1006
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: maybe a high leverage relief arm, depending on how the

1007
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: Mets could view him and if MLB trade rumors projections

1008
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: in terms of what the money value could look like

1009
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: for a guy like Riel Rodriguez, four years thirty two

1010
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: million dollars comes out to about eight million dollars a year.

1011
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: That's kind of in that fringe range that me and

1012
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: you talk about of if you can find some value

1013
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: there that could really really lift your team up quite

1014
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: a bit, Yeah, quite a bit.

1015
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: I do like Uriel, and I think that he's someone

1016
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: who's interesting. He's the kind of guy right now that

1017
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people online know his name. He normally

1018
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: knows that much about him, so he gets thrown into

1019
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: every team's like offseason projection. Let's give this guy three years,

1020
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: like thirty five million dollars, let's put him in my

1021
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 2: notes at But I think that he is someone who

1022
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: can be very interesting. Another guy who I think can

1023
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: be very interesting, someone we've talked about in this show before.

1024
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: Someone who's another guy where it's like he'll probably look gross.

1025
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: It's a little bit surprising that the team that trade

1026
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: for him the deadline didn't retain him. But who just

1027
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 2: it's this is what we got a live arm. Guys,

1028
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: who's Shintaro Fujinami?

1029
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: Oh yes, your boy?

1030
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, former former a now former oriol depending off

1031
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: they bring a background Shatara Fujinami throws really hard with

1032
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: a disgusting split thether and the Mets. Last year we

1033
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: talked about a little bitwards the end of the year.

1034
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: Very disappointing.

1035
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: We're one of I believe three teams in all baseball

1036
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: it didn't have a pitcher throw a pitch in the

1037
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: triple digits. That will change the second Edwin d S

1038
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: steps on the mound to save hopefully the game an

1039
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: opening day. But we need more guys who can throw hard.

1040
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: And that is the kind of thing that you can't

1041
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: just you can't really fake that. You can't fake velocity.

1042
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of Day of the shows that

1043
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: if you throw a pitch down in the middle between

1044
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: ninety two, ninety three, ninety four, ninety five, ninety six,

1045
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: ninety seven all the way up to one hundred, two

1046
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: hundred three, where Fujinami can get to you're less likely

1047
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: hit it the harder it's being thrown. So I know

1048
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: velosity is and everything. And sometimes if Shintaro Fujinami would

1049
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: throw a game, pitching a game, and you'd be like,

1050
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: he has no idea where the ball's going. No one

1051
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: knows where the ball is going. I really want to

1052
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: get him out. Not saying he's a good location.

1053
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: He might never have good location, he might never have

1054
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: good command, but the fact that he has a great splither,

1055
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: he throws over one hundred miles now ur fastball and

1056
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: sinker with a slideer that he mixed in towards the

1057
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: end of the year with the Orioles. There's a guy

1058
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: that probably can give a lot a lot to a

1059
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: team that you might have to pay a little before

1060
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: because you always have to pay for velocity major League Baseball.

1061
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: But we didn't have one pitch in the triple digits

1062
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: last year.

1063
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: No, And that is something that if you want to

1064
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 2: be a competitive team, if you want to make the playoffs,

1065
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: you want to compete for championships, that simply cannot happen.

1066
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: Gotta have a little gas. I mean, Edwin Diaz coming

1067
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: back will definitely help us. Like you said, but it'll

1068
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: be nice to have another arm as well too. I

1069
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: want two guys that throw a hundred. I want five.

1070
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: I want five guys to throw. Everybody throws one hundred

1071
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: miles now, or what about that scenario. That's great. That

1072
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: was what the Phillies try to do this year. It

1073
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: almost got them all the way almost almost. But I

1074
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: think that's where we're gonna leave you guys with the

1075
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: free agent talk, because of course we're coming up on

1076
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: like forty ish minutes here of talking about the Mets

1077
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: with you guys, and we still have so much of

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Speaker 1: the offseason left. Is more rumors and news and free

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Speaker 1: agent pickups and trades come along. Of course we'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about it with you guys as always. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if anybody was able to make it out there.

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Speaker 1: I know you weren't, James. But this weekend when the

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Speaker 1: Mets at City Field did the Lee dom the t

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Speaker 1: Grays Daily Say versus the Aguilla's Day Sibuenos, like I said,

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Speaker 1: at City Field got there on Saturday. I gotta tell

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Speaker 1: you a absolute blast. And I think like over thirty

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Speaker 1: thousand people showed up for this Dominican Winter League game

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Speaker 1: at City Field in the second week of November, which

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Speaker 1: was super cool. The atmosphere was crazy, something that I

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Speaker 1: hope if Mets fans that were there notice and recognize,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to bring this energy to Major League Baseball games,

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Speaker 1: to Mets games, Like even if it was like once

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00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: a week or once a month on a Friday, just

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Speaker 1: some random Friday, they just had like that same atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: that same vibe be electric. It was so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Like me and my dad did not have a dog

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Speaker 1: in the race, couldn't care less who won the game,

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Speaker 1: couldn't care less of the outcome, and it was like

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Speaker 1: we're on the edge of our seats because the energy

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Speaker 1: was just people were standing. This is an exhibition game,

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Speaker 1: they were standing for the entire game. It was crazy.

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Speaker 2: I mean also, probably there are a lot of those

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Speaker 2: fans likely would love to go to the actual Winter

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Speaker 2: League down into Making Republica. Probably can't make it there,

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Speaker 2: so it's the only chance to get to see these

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Speaker 2: teams that they do root for it. I know a

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Speaker 2: lot of these players come back and play in these

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Speaker 2: same teams year after year, so there is some.

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Speaker 1: True rivalry within this. I saw that Odzle Robls got

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Speaker 1: in the City Field mound, which was pretty funny. Did

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Speaker 1: you see on Saturday? I was two outs away from

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Speaker 1: seeing a no hitter? Can you believe that? I was?

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Speaker 1: I was joking my dad. I was like, I can't

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Speaker 1: believe that there's a chance the first no hitter I'm

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Speaker 1: ever gonna see in my life at a game. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be like someone be like, hey, have you ever

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Speaker 1: see a no hitter? Yeah? I saw the t Grays

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Speaker 1: Dad Lyse and the Gilla Stacey Buenos throw a no

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Speaker 1: hitter in a Dominican Winter League exhibition game at City Field.

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Speaker 1: That's like mad libs just filling in blanks. Where were

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Speaker 1: you for the Tea Grays daily saying no hitter at

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Speaker 1: City Field? Alexander Canario's got to lay out for that ball.

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Speaker 1: He came up a little short. He trapped it. They

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Speaker 1: went to review. Christopher Morel jumped on his back running

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Speaker 1: around the outfield thinking that he actually caught it. Went

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Speaker 1: to review. It was obvious it wasn't the catch. He

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Speaker 1: was close, but Canario just didn't want it. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta want it a little bit more than that.

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Speaker 2: I'm at this point this weekend, I couldn't make it

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Speaker 2: there just had stuff to do. And I really hope

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Speaker 2: this something that happens in the future because it looked incredible.

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Speaker 2: The fact that they packed one thousand people in the

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Speaker 2: city field and the weekend of November is pretty sick,

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Speaker 2: pretty sick.

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Speaker 1: And for like, genuinely speaking, there were no stars playing.

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Speaker 1: There were no big names, Like the biggest name was

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Speaker 1: like Starlin cashro and that guy's been banned from MLB essentially,

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Speaker 1: so like, there's not a lot of big names there.

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Speaker 1: Wan Lagaris, I guess, was maybe a big one. If

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Speaker 1: you're a Mets fan, you want to see while on

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00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: Lagaris play center field again. But I think Christopher Morell

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Speaker 1: was probably the best player that was currently playing in

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00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: the majors that was a part of these rosters. So

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Speaker 1: it's cool to see those guys playing. Cool to see

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Speaker 1: like the passion again and as someone who's experienced the

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00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic, the atmosphere was pretty close, So I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It was cool.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of cool to hear. And yeah, now I

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00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: just make more disappointed. I couldn't get together, get get there.

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Speaker 2: He had other things to do.

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Speaker 1: It's all right, sor right next time, Next time, hopefully

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Speaker 1: there is a next time. Guys, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening and watching this episode of the Mets Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: you guys for listening, thank you for watching, and we'll

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Speaker 1: catch you next week for another episode. Bye.