WEBVTT - Hour 1 - NFL Holiday Recap 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:09.080 What come run into you Dan Patrick's show Fox Sports Radio, 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:13.360 My boy Djoshman's out of course, you old pro bowler. 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:15.120 You can hear an up on game on weekends on 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.320 Fox Sports Radio with me Doug Gottlieb. You can check 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:19.000 me out on the Doug Gotlib Show daily three to 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:23.200 five Eastern, twelve to two Pacific. Anyway, we got you 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.279 for the next couple hours. As we're reacting to a 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:29.360 obiata Merry Christma, let's getting ready for a happy, happy 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:35.720 New Year. Whosha Christmas? This year we not only got hoops, 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.640 we got football as well, and then the Christmas Eve slate. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.280 There's a there's a metric time to get to. But 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.279 when we look back, if if we were look back 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.240 and say, hey, what was the biggest thing that happened 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:50.080 this weekend other than Santa completing his task? What would 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:55.120 it be? Man? It would be the way Green Bay, 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.520 at least for me, has gotten back into the playoff 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.760 picture of that terrible start. And then on the flip side, 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.040 like what is going on with the Dolphins and Tula, 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:13.000 Like you start off the season so well and now 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.760 you look like you can't even play the quarterback position 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.639 like some of those interceptions like what are you doing? 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:26.720 And so for me, it's Green Bay's revitalization and what's 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.240 going on with the Dolphins. Well, I mean, like, look, 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.399 if we look back and we remember, okay, there was 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:35.479 that was weird when they play in Miami in September, 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.120 things are weird, right, Like the Bills melted in the 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.319 heat and still probably could have gotten the last second 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:45.800 field goal. The Patriots, they've been a mess offensive anyway, 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.640 but that game was as much about the defenses was 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.520 the offense. But you know those wins in the middle 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.680 of the season when look at those teams Steelers who 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.960 are starting to figure it out, Lions who starting to 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.480 figure it out, Bears, Browns, Texans like they be bad teams, 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.720 they play good teams. And he doesn't look like he's 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.800 It looks like Brian Flores was right. That's that's what 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:14.520 it looks like. I would say when I look at it, 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:18.640 it's probably somewhere like he looks so good to start 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:22.480 the season, he looked really good, and I felt like 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.760 going into the season with a new head coach, with 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.240 Tyreek Hill coming on board, that he would be better. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:35.080 And he has been better. But it's almost as if 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:40.120 once they played to San Francisco forty nine Ers and 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.960 it was first played the game and score, it's like, 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:47.520 oh okay, here they go. After that game, he's completely 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.080 fallen off, like you're gonna have adversity, You're you're gonna 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.799 have that, And it seems as if once he hit 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.840 that bump in the road, he couldn't really overcome it 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.840 because they lose it to nine Ers. Then they lose 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:04.560 to the Chargers, and then things start to snowball competitive 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:08.720 game to the Bills, and it's just it's just snowballing. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.000 But but but I felt like, you know, just watching 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.639 that game, I felt like the turning point in the 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.600 game was when it was twenty to ten just before 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:22.120 halftime and Mostart fumbled. I felt like that was a 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.360 turning point in the game because they had a chance 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.880 to go up seventeen or at worst thirteen points. They 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.280 didn't score a point the rest of the way. Now, 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.320 and then you know, the interceptions in the second half, 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:36.840 just you can't win need to turn the ball over 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.320 that much, especially against Aaron Rodgers, who they looked better. 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:44.640 They look great, but they looked better, and um, that's 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.400 a team that was so in need of it that 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.480 that's a quality win. Now, they had the Vikings and 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.720 the Lions back to back weeks to climb into the playoffs, 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.640 where you would think they'd be dangerous with the exception 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.640 of the like the nine Ers would be the matchup 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.080 that would that would be the crazy one. Okay, what 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.280 about Tampa's win last night? That was a bizarre one. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.040 You got you got the Rams and Baker Mayfield lightning 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.560 at the world or the Broncos completely quitting like that 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.600 thing is that thing is done. M You have a 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:20.080 lot of others. You have the Cowboys who high lead, 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.120 fell behind, end up being the Eagles, albeit the Eagles 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:28.400 without Jail and Hurts. We watched Eagles Cowboys. What's what's 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.400 your as from the football eye? What's you take away? 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:35.000 The Eagles turned the ball over four times. Eagles are 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:39.640 playing with a backup quarterback, and I felt the Eagles 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:43.880 should have won that game. Third and thirty Like third 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.560 and thirty one of the best corners in the game, 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.320 and Darius Slay felt like he was getting help over 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:53.680 the top um from thirty three. I don't know who 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.799 thirty three was. I just know his last name was Scott. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.039 Maybe it was Josiah Scott, but I'm not certain, and 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:04.560 they complete a third and thirty to t Y Hilton four. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:10.239 Like everything went the Cowboys way in that game, playing 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:15.120 against the backup quarterback and they escape with a victory. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.360 But on the flip side, first game of the season, 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.840 the Eagles played Cooper Russian, a backup quarterback, and they 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:26.680 escaped with the victory. And so the Cowboys look good. 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.800 But the Eagles, man, they just have a really, really 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.720 good team. If Jalen Hurts is playing the way they 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.599 played certain coverages, they wouldn't do that with Hurts because 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:42.080 he would take off and run. And so this is 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.159 going to be, at least for me interesting wants the 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.960 playoffs starts. I believe everybody's like, oh, we want to 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.200 play the Bucks, But do you really with Brady Underson 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.839 or the way the Bucks have looked, they will be 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.920 one and done in the playoffs. It just looks that 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:01.000 way to me. But it was for me this weekend. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.120 I literally, just as soon as the game started, I 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.640 didn't move but to eat no. I was glued to 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.520 the television all weekend. It's it's amazing because we have 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.320 that again this weekend right where we have the thirty 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.640 first and the first we have the National Semifinals on Saturday, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.680 and then Sunday we'll have some Bowl games, but a 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.400 ton of NFL. Like, is there a way in which 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.880 we could do this every year where Christmas is on 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.520 a on a weekend like that? Was that it was 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.000 the best? Can we just kind of Jimmy rigg the 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.240 calendar for now on? We don't need leap years or 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.440 to move the days whatever. Just always Christmas on the Sunday. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.800 That way, our Saturday, Uh you know that? That way, 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.320 our Saturday is filled with with Christmas Eve games like 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:42.920 those are those are great? Then we get the Chargers 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.479 Colts tonight, we got Lakers news with Anthony Davis out 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.919 indefinitely with a stress reaction. We got some baseball stuff. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.360 Is it Carlos Korea trade? It Carlos Korea deal? Uh? 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.920 May may go up into my second Carlo's Korea contract. Uh? 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.560 Maybe void because of something with than the physical Like, man, 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.640 there's a lot of a lot of stuff. And then 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:09.080 you have Crowning of the chiefs Um, can Deshaun Watson 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.480 play anymore? Right? I haven't even gotten with you about 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.160 what what like what you do if you're the Jets. 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.000 What do you do if you're What do you do 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:23.320 the Jets? If you're If you're the Jets, it sucks. 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.200 As said, it seems as if it doesn't seem as 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.440 if Zach Wilson has lost his confidence in it. And 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:31.880 I feel bad for him, to be honest with you, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:37.400 because when you go to New York and the crowd 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:42.880 is reacting off of what has happened, meaning they didn't 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.440 want him in the game. Because once he got benched 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:49.800 and Mike White was named the starter, Mike White played 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:54.280 pretty well and so and that weather like guy, y'all, 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.960 y'all see the weather they're playing in right, Like it's 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.480 it's not easy to plan that weather. Every throw that 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.400 was off, it was just like boom, and you hear 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.600 that as a player and then you start the press 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.080 and he just couldn't get it done. I didn't feel 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:16.800 like he played terrible. He missed some throws, but it 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.840 was the pressure of he knew what was on the line. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.880 He knew if he didn't play well, Um, what could 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.280 it possibly be? But the Jets have to move on. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:32.720 It's just no way that he would have to be perfect. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.640 He could win four or five games in a row. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.079 He played one bad game, they're gonna boo him. They're 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.280 just they're just gonna boom in the Jets. The Jets 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.679 fans act like they've been good all these years, like boom, 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:49.160 like supporting. But it's over, it's over. And and what's 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:54.000 what's what's what's interesting? Who is that? I think you know, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.120 the guys that wore the Mike White T shirts, like 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.320 that's not being a good teammate. Who does that? I mean, 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.400 it probably knows you what Zach is like behind closed doors, 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.600 but still you can't do it. Guy obviously was struggling 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.679 with confidence. Down the confidences shot. And then you know, 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.200 I love that people consider themselves fans. If you're really 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.960 a fan of a team and he wears your uniform, 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:19.679 you made it impossible, You made you made an opportunity 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.600 that he would normally have, which is a very slim 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.800 chance of turning it around impossible because you just you 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.880 can't overcome when your own home fans have completely turned 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:34.200 on you. There's just no way the sport, any sport, 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:40.400 but fans they support us like it. I've always when 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:41.920 I was planning, even to this day, if you want 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.240 to take a picture. I'm gonna take a picture. If 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.720 you want to autograph, I'll take an autograph. It's no 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:49.040 time like, that's not like, oh I have something to do. 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.640 It's gonna take twenty thirty seconds, whatever it may be. 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:56.319 But a lot of fans really think that they loved 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:00.000 a game or they want to win more than the players. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.720 It's you don't like. But Zach Wilson he went when 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.160 he said, um, no, I didn't let the team down. No, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.079 I that was the beginning of the end. You no question. 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:17.920 You have to accept accountability. And he did that after 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.960 the fact, but it was too late. No, there's there's listen, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.880 there's no question. That's he had probably was petering on 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.679 losing the locker room and completely lost after that, and 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.960 it was it was laughably bad. That was after New 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.800 England loss and yes again bad weather, but he missed 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.280 so so badly and looked so completely lost. I get it, 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.839 and I understand, like you're a fan, you're allowed to 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.440 be upset. You're like you're like you liked it. I 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.160 went all in on Zach Wilson. The guy stinks. I 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.920 get it. We're all in that. But when the team 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.680 would say they went all in like, it's not when 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.240 I was getting drafted, quarterbacks were getting sixty seventy million. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.240 You drafted a guy in the first round, in the 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.760 top five, it didn't pan out. Okay, let's see if 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.840 Mike Whites the guy, and if he isn't, let's see 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.400 who we can draft again. Well, I look, I think 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.800 I think though, if you're a Jets fan, okay, remember 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.640 you're like, well, I thought it was I thought Sanchez 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.840 was the dude, and then he wasn't, or Geno and 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.320 then he wasn't, and then Donald I was all in 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.520 Undarnald and then he wasn't. Then it's so so in 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.480 many ways, you know, Wilson gets the you know what 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:27.760 because all these other dudes have been false prophets. And 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:32.120 then you know you weren't really like and really seen 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:37.600 him play as by us covid year, he's just you know, 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.560 he's kind of he looks like he's more of a 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.720 movie star than a football player or whatever. I mean, 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.360 you can and again, if you're a hater, you can 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.439 find anything you don't like to whether a guy can 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.200 play or a guy who can't play, none of that matters. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.560 I think it's a culmination of things I really do. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.840 But yes, they gotta they gotta move on. Fox Sports 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.560 Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.400 Catch All of our show is at Fox Sports Radio 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.439 dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search f SR 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.640 to listen live. Come more to you a Dan Patrick's 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.199 show Fox Sports Radio with t Jospin's Adam Doug Gottlieb. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.959 Wishing Eli and yours. The marriage of Christmas is happy Honeken, 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:20.520 Happy New Year coming up this weekend. Can't get to 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.679 this weekend without telling you, as we're coming from live 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.599 from the tirect dot com studios. Last weekend was incredible, 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.280 still going obviously, it's like one of those parties still going. Yeah, 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:35.400 Chargers Colts tonight conclude three days is just awesome. Awesome 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:40.440 NFL football. Who's um, there are more pertinent games in 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:44.800 regards to the playoffs, right, like you mentioned the Packers. Obviously, 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:50.679 Cincinnati beaten New England is worthy of discussion. Carolina hanging 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:54.480 around in that discussion with Tampa Bay as they beat Detroit. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.480 As you want to talk about a good old fashioned 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.000 ask hope and whoa Carolina had two hundred yard rush 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:05.520 at the half. At the half, um Pittsburgh, essentially ending 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.560 the Raiders season. But also, you know, Mike Tomman still 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.679 holding out hope for another season above five hundred, you know, 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.760 as you're not gonna finish that five hundred anymore. But 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.440 what happened yesterday at so far, and I'll grant granted, 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.880 it's a game nobody has any right to have to 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.040 pay attention to, right it's the Rams are playing for nothing. 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:30.840 The Broncos are actually if they every time they lose, 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:35.240 it helps the Seahawks, not the Broncos. Um. But this 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:40.200 is a debacle. Russell Wilson throws three picks. Brett Rippon, 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.200 for his part, comes in throws a pick as well. 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.880 Baker Mayfield plays just about perfect football. Cam Akers rush 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:50.200 for buck eighteen and the Rams win fifty one to fourteen, 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.400 fifty one to fourteen. Did they did they quit on? 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.560 Did the rest of the Broncos quit on Russell Wilson? 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.640 Did they quit on the head coach? What happened to 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:05.439 the bronco Because the Broncos are terrible, man, and we've 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.920 been seeing this all year, but because Russell Wilson is 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:13.520 a quarterback, it was as if a magic potion was 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.200 gonna They're gonna turn it around. Oh, he's gonna play better. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:22.880 And he fifteen for twenty seven, two hundred and fourteen 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:28.640 yards and it was okay, he's been playing like that 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.360 all year. And then to see Baker go twenty four 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.760 for twenty eight and it was I mean, when you're 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.720 if you're a Bronco fan, you did not have envisioned 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.680 this to start the season. Russell Wilson has been good 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:49.480 from his rookie year until now, and it's almost as 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:56.080 if immediately he can't play. And when I look at it, 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:02.640 Russell Wilson has proven himself for a decade, ten years. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:09.040 Hackett has never proven himself. I'm gonna go with the 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.920 guy that has proven himself to say it can't be 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.880 his fault. I need to see more of this. When 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.080 when you look at Hackett and you go to Green Bay, 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.080 because that's where he comes he comes from as an 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.520 offensive coordinator, he didn't call the plays. Lafleur was the 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:29.000 play caller. Hackett just had the title of OC when 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.880 he did call plays. When he was with the Jacksonville Jaguars, 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:39.760 Look at their offense, they were awful. Now look he's 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.480 getting Nathaniel Hackett's gone there's just no here's just no way. Right. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.360 You can't take over that team with that promise to 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.840 that quarterback in that contract and go four and eleven 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.000 regardless of injuries, whatever else you want to say, that 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:55.560 doesn't matter. He's gone. The question is like, what's the 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.400 likelihood that Russell Wilson can get it back. That's the 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.120 big question because he was not good coming off of 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:08.440 the thumb last year, and you know he's been He's 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.720 been more than a little defiant in the past over 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.240 what his whatever his limitations are, and now he appears 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.640 to have some dramatic limitations. He doesn't He's run more 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.520 and thrown more recently, but still doesn't move the same 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.120 in the pocket. His arm is in the same throwing 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.000 the ball deep down the field, and I mean he 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.080 looks like a shell of himself. He looks like, how 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.840 often do we even see him throw that deep ball 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.480 like he threw in Seattle for many years? How often 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.800 do we don't even see it as much? Right? But 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.720 but if we can only we can only guess the 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.960 reason we don't see this because when he's thrown it, 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.640 it hasn't either gotten there as him been on target. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.320 She's not the same guy. There's no other way to 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.640 I mean just not. I don't know if you can 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:55.920 pick you play a entire season the way he has played. 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.680 I can't disagree with you. But if if I'm gonna 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.600 play Devil's Advocate, the only thing I can come up 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:07.159 with is coaching matters in the National Football League. And 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:13.520 I played on three different teams my last three years 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:19.119 in the league, and you're able to see why it matters. 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.960 Certain coaches are just better than others. They understand more 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.119 of you're more prepared. They'll tell you expect this on 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.680 third down, and it happens on third down when this 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:32.720 guy does this, this is what they're going to do. 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.280 And that's what happens in other coaches. They just don't 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:39.280 do that, and you miss that. You're like, ah, when 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.520 I was playing with this team, we're more prepared. And 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.119 is that going on now? Is that the case? I 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:51.520 don't know, But even if it is, and say Hackett 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:57.120 is not the type of coach that he had in Seattle, 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.000 you shouldn't fall off this bat. It shouldn't be a 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.600 really good player should be able to find a way 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.840 and say, Okay, I won't be able to play the 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.720 way I've played, but I can't be this bad. I 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:16.400 feel like Russell, He's always gonna say the right thing. 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:18.399 All I know how to do is keep working. You know, 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.000 I'm gonna find a way. I'm gonna figure it out again. 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:22.960 Go back to the fans. They don't want to hear that. 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:26.560 They want to see one thing results. Here's Russell Wilson 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.959 after the game. We're at a low moment right now. 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.080 I don't fear low moments because I know that every 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:32.560 time I've been in a low moment, I've always come 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.320 to the other side of it. And that's in life. 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.280 Losing my dad, that's in life, going through obstacles and stuff. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.280 That's in life and your career, whatever it may be. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.719 And all I know is to keep fighting, keep battling. 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:43.400 And that's what I'm gonna give. I'm gonna give everything 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.600 I have every day. I mean, it sounds really good. 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.280 It just really falls on deaf ears because everything out 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.480 of him sounds like a Tony Robbins speech, you know, 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:58.720 just just does. And I mean it's interesting like he 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.760 got away with it so long and he was so 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.960 he was he was fairly polarizing within I think league circles. 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.679 But you know, with fans, people like you know, generally 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.760 liked him, and now it's just like, oh god, so 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:17.000 I wouldn't rather my quarterback approach it that way then say, oh, 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.040 I'm not at fault for anything if we go back, 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.080 no question Wilson and the Jets. No, I would prefer 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:28.000 Russell Wilson's response. And you know what, though he truly 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:33.000 believes what he said. He's not just saying it. He 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:37.080 truly believes that. But guess what he's going nowhere? Well, 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.960 but no, of course not. It's it's the same with 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.160 all these guys. It's like Aaron Rodgers, like he ain't 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:43.840 going anywhere, like look at that, look at all that money. 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:45.919 He's not walking away from fifty nine millions. So anyway, 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.920 But the point though is, and this is the big one, 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:53.280 is you and I think we agree, like you're you're 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.480 going to financially, you're gonna have to run it back 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.960 with Russell Wilson, and the likelihood of success is greater 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.919 if you get back to a more conservative style, more 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:03.760 like what he did and set. The problem with it 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.239 is like I don't know if Russell doesn't know who 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:10.399 he is, right, he I think he thinks he's the 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.879 old Russell and he's not clearly not. And even the 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.320 old Russell obviously Seattle thought they saw some limitations. That's 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.240 why they put him in that situation, and he was 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.400 at his best that way. But I just I don't 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:25.000 think he knows who he is. I think he thinks 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:28.240 he's I think he thinks the problems hacking, and he 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.840 may be mostly right or partially right. But there's no 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:32.760 way you can watch that and go that's the same guy. 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:36.480 And that's the interesting part is that TJ is as 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:40.600 as you try, and whether it's Zach Wilson, whether it's 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:42.719 you know, you pick any of these quarterbacks that are 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:44.600 getting a shot or not getting a shot or whatever, 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.639 they get shell shocked and they throw these picks, like, 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.720 how much of it is a twa Zach Wilson and 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.479 Russell Wilson right, how much of it is talent? How 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.160 much of it is they lose their confidence? How much 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.879 of it is age right for Russell Wilson, Like, all 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:04.240 of those things are really interesting because you wouldn't draft 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.400 Zach Wilson number two of roall unless he had talent. 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.120 You wouldn't people wouldn't tank for twa unless they thought 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.880 he had talent. Now, I watched you a play against 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.439 the Rams, and I was like, or actually against the Chargers, 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:17.680 and I just thought his ball just died at the hole. 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.760 Like there's they just does not have the wing for 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.760 throwing the ball outside the numbers. But there's I know 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.159 there's more took playing quarterback than that. And then you know, 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:28.880 you look at Russell Wilson. He doesn't look to say 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:32.359 how much of it is fixable with these guys, especially 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:34.720 with Russell Wilson, because as you said, like the Broncos, 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.920 it's one thing to take a guy Zach Wilson you 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.160 can move on from because of how for Shron draft 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:43.080 pick contracts are to a tongue of Boloa you can 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.560 move on from because of how for shun draft pick. 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.000 You can't move on from Russell Wilson. The Broncos are 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:50.879 way more screwed than the Dolphins and the Jets ever 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:54.600 would be the bronc I mean, and you don't even 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:58.000 have draft picks because you've given them Seattle was part 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.800 of a trade. It really when you look at the 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:06.280 last couple of years in Seattle, give me a contract 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.119 extension or last few years and it's give me a 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:11.480 contract extension, or I'm leaving as a free agent. This 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:13.560 is what he tells, or this is what is reported. 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:17.040 He tells Seattle's front office, Pete Carroll, John Snyder, they 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:21.000 give him a contract extension. They when I say they, 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:25.119 it's Russell Wilson and his agents and his people. They 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:28.840 were making it seems as if Pete Carroll was the 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:32.520 reason Russell wasn't what he wanted to be and he 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:37.680 could have been, and they get rid of him. And 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:43.320 it's as if Pete has been this really fantastic coach 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:47.680 this entire time, Like look what Pete got out of Russell. 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:53.040 Look what Pete is doing now with Gino. He really 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:59.520 hid Russell Wilson's flaws. And when everybody wanted rusta cook, 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:05.080 Pete knew he couldn't cook. Because now he's in this 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:10.040 situation and he can't get it done. And so for Russell, 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:14.440 I empathize when any player that was at the level 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:18.440 that he was at and then you crash and it 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:24.359 wasn't gradual, it was immediately. And I believe what he's saying, Oh, 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.000 all I know how to do his work. I mean 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:31.240