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Speaker 1: obiata Merry Christma, let's getting ready for a happy, happy
Speaker 1: New Year. Whosha Christmas? This year we not only got hoops,
Speaker 1: we got football as well, and then the Christmas Eve slate.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a metric time to get to. But
Speaker 1: when we look back, if if we were look back
Speaker 1: and say, hey, what was the biggest thing that happened
Speaker 1: this weekend other than Santa completing his task? What would
Speaker 1: it be? Man? It would be the way Green Bay,
Speaker 1: at least for me, has gotten back into the playoff
Speaker 1: picture of that terrible start. And then on the flip side,
Speaker 1: like what is going on with the Dolphins and Tula,
Speaker 1: Like you start off the season so well and now
Speaker 1: you look like you can't even play the quarterback position
Speaker 1: like some of those interceptions like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And so for me, it's Green Bay's revitalization and what's
Speaker 1: going on with the Dolphins. Well, I mean, like, look,
Speaker 1: if we look back and we remember, okay, there was
Speaker 1: that was weird when they play in Miami in September,
Speaker 1: things are weird, right, Like the Bills melted in the
Speaker 1: heat and still probably could have gotten the last second
Speaker 1: field goal. The Patriots, they've been a mess offensive anyway,
Speaker 1: but that game was as much about the defenses was
Speaker 1: the offense. But you know those wins in the middle
Speaker 1: of the season when look at those teams Steelers who
Speaker 1: are starting to figure it out, Lions who starting to
Speaker 1: figure it out, Bears, Browns, Texans like they be bad teams,
Speaker 1: they play good teams. And he doesn't look like he's
Speaker 1: It looks like Brian Flores was right. That's that's what
Speaker 1: it looks like. I would say when I look at it,
Speaker 1: it's probably somewhere like he looks so good to start
Speaker 1: the season, he looked really good, and I felt like
Speaker 1: going into the season with a new head coach, with
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill coming on board, that he would be better.
Speaker 1: And he has been better. But it's almost as if
Speaker 1: once they played to San Francisco forty nine Ers and
Speaker 1: it was first played the game and score, it's like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, here they go. After that game, he's completely
Speaker 1: fallen off, like you're gonna have adversity, You're you're gonna
Speaker 1: have that, And it seems as if once he hit
Speaker 1: that bump in the road, he couldn't really overcome it
Speaker 1: because they lose it to nine Ers. Then they lose
Speaker 1: to the Chargers, and then things start to snowball competitive
Speaker 1: game to the Bills, and it's just it's just snowballing.
Speaker 1: But but but I felt like, you know, just watching
Speaker 1: that game, I felt like the turning point in the
Speaker 1: game was when it was twenty to ten just before
Speaker 1: halftime and Mostart fumbled. I felt like that was a
Speaker 1: turning point in the game because they had a chance
Speaker 1: to go up seventeen or at worst thirteen points. They
Speaker 1: didn't score a point the rest of the way. Now,
Speaker 1: and then you know, the interceptions in the second half,
Speaker 1: just you can't win need to turn the ball over
Speaker 1: that much, especially against Aaron Rodgers, who they looked better.
Speaker 1: They look great, but they looked better, and um, that's
Speaker 1: a team that was so in need of it that
Speaker 1: that's a quality win. Now, they had the Vikings and
Speaker 1: the Lions back to back weeks to climb into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: where you would think they'd be dangerous with the exception
Speaker 1: of the like the nine Ers would be the matchup
Speaker 1: that would that would be the crazy one. Okay, what
Speaker 1: about Tampa's win last night? That was a bizarre one.
Speaker 1: You got you got the Rams and Baker Mayfield lightning
Speaker 1: at the world or the Broncos completely quitting like that
Speaker 1: thing is that thing is done. M You have a
Speaker 1: lot of others. You have the Cowboys who high lead,
Speaker 1: fell behind, end up being the Eagles, albeit the Eagles
Speaker 1: without Jail and Hurts. We watched Eagles Cowboys. What's what's
Speaker 1: your as from the football eye? What's you take away?
Speaker 1: The Eagles turned the ball over four times. Eagles are
Speaker 1: playing with a backup quarterback, and I felt the Eagles
Speaker 1: should have won that game. Third and thirty Like third
Speaker 1: and thirty one of the best corners in the game,
Speaker 1: and Darius Slay felt like he was getting help over
Speaker 1: the top um from thirty three. I don't know who
Speaker 1: thirty three was. I just know his last name was Scott.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was Josiah Scott, but I'm not certain, and
Speaker 1: they complete a third and thirty to t Y Hilton four.
Speaker 1: Like everything went the Cowboys way in that game, playing
Speaker 1: against the backup quarterback and they escape with a victory.
Speaker 1: But on the flip side, first game of the season,
Speaker 1: the Eagles played Cooper Russian, a backup quarterback, and they
Speaker 1: escaped with the victory. And so the Cowboys look good.
Speaker 1: But the Eagles, man, they just have a really, really
Speaker 1: good team. If Jalen Hurts is playing the way they
Speaker 1: played certain coverages, they wouldn't do that with Hurts because
Speaker 1: he would take off and run. And so this is
Speaker 1: going to be, at least for me interesting wants the
Speaker 1: playoffs starts. I believe everybody's like, oh, we want to
Speaker 1: play the Bucks, But do you really with Brady Underson
Speaker 1: or the way the Bucks have looked, they will be
Speaker 1: one and done in the playoffs. It just looks that
Speaker 1: way to me. But it was for me this weekend.
Speaker 1: I literally, just as soon as the game started, I
Speaker 1: didn't move but to eat no. I was glued to
Speaker 1: the television all weekend. It's it's amazing because we have
Speaker 1: that again this weekend right where we have the thirty
Speaker 1: first and the first we have the National Semifinals on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and then Sunday we'll have some Bowl games, but a
Speaker 1: ton of NFL. Like, is there a way in which
Speaker 1: we could do this every year where Christmas is on
Speaker 1: a on a weekend like that? Was that it was
Speaker 1: the best? Can we just kind of Jimmy rigg the
Speaker 1: calendar for now on? We don't need leap years or
Speaker 1: to move the days whatever. Just always Christmas on the Sunday.
Speaker 1: That way, our Saturday, Uh you know that? That way,
Speaker 1: our Saturday is filled with with Christmas Eve games like
Speaker 1: those are those are great? Then we get the Chargers
Speaker 1: Colts tonight, we got Lakers news with Anthony Davis out
Speaker 1: indefinitely with a stress reaction. We got some baseball stuff.
Speaker 1: Is it Carlos Korea trade? It Carlos Korea deal? Uh?
Speaker 1: May may go up into my second Carlo's Korea contract. Uh?
Speaker 1: Maybe void because of something with than the physical Like, man,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of stuff. And then
Speaker 1: you have Crowning of the chiefs Um, can Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: play anymore? Right? I haven't even gotten with you about
Speaker 1: what what like what you do if you're the Jets.
Speaker 1: What do you do if you're What do you do
Speaker 1: the Jets? If you're If you're the Jets, it sucks.
Speaker 1: As said, it seems as if it doesn't seem as
Speaker 1: if Zach Wilson has lost his confidence in it. And
Speaker 1: I feel bad for him, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: because when you go to New York and the crowd
Speaker 1: is reacting off of what has happened, meaning they didn't
Speaker 1: want him in the game. Because once he got benched
Speaker 1: and Mike White was named the starter, Mike White played
Speaker 1: pretty well and so and that weather like guy, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all see the weather they're playing in right, Like it's
Speaker 1: it's not easy to plan that weather. Every throw that
Speaker 1: was off, it was just like boom, and you hear
Speaker 1: that as a player and then you start the press
Speaker 1: and he just couldn't get it done. I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like he played terrible. He missed some throws, but it
Speaker 1: was the pressure of he knew what was on the line.
Speaker 1: He knew if he didn't play well, Um, what could
Speaker 1: it possibly be? But the Jets have to move on.
Speaker 1: It's just no way that he would have to be perfect.
Speaker 1: He could win four or five games in a row.
Speaker 1: He played one bad game, they're gonna boo him. They're
Speaker 1: just they're just gonna boom in the Jets. The Jets
Speaker 1: fans act like they've been good all these years, like boom,
Speaker 1: like supporting. But it's over, it's over. And and what's
Speaker 1: what's what's what's interesting? Who is that? I think you know,
Speaker 1: the guys that wore the Mike White T shirts, like
Speaker 1: that's not being a good teammate. Who does that? I mean,
Speaker 1: it probably knows you what Zach is like behind closed doors,
Speaker 1: but still you can't do it. Guy obviously was struggling
Speaker 1: with confidence. Down the confidences shot. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I love that people consider themselves fans. If you're really
Speaker 1: a fan of a team and he wears your uniform,
Speaker 1: you made it impossible, You made you made an opportunity
Speaker 1: that he would normally have, which is a very slim
Speaker 1: chance of turning it around impossible because you just you
Speaker 1: can't overcome when your own home fans have completely turned
Speaker 1: on you. There's just no way the sport, any sport,
Speaker 1: but fans they support us like it. I've always when
Speaker 1: I was planning, even to this day, if you want
Speaker 1: to take a picture. I'm gonna take a picture. If
Speaker 1: you want to autograph, I'll take an autograph. It's no
Speaker 1: time like, that's not like, oh I have something to do.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take twenty thirty seconds, whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: But a lot of fans really think that they loved
Speaker 1: a game or they want to win more than the players.
Speaker 1: It's you don't like. But Zach Wilson he went when
Speaker 1: he said, um, no, I didn't let the team down. No,
Speaker 1: I that was the beginning of the end. You no question.
Speaker 1: You have to accept accountability. And he did that after
Speaker 1: the fact, but it was too late. No, there's there's listen,
Speaker 1: there's no question. That's he had probably was petering on
Speaker 1: losing the locker room and completely lost after that, and
Speaker 1: it was it was laughably bad. That was after New
Speaker 1: England loss and yes again bad weather, but he missed
Speaker 1: so so badly and looked so completely lost. I get it,
Speaker 1: and I understand, like you're a fan, you're allowed to
Speaker 1: be upset. You're like you're like you liked it. I
Speaker 1: went all in on Zach Wilson. The guy stinks. I
Speaker 1: get it. We're all in that. But when the team
Speaker 1: would say they went all in like, it's not when
Speaker 1: I was getting drafted, quarterbacks were getting sixty seventy million.
Speaker 1: You drafted a guy in the first round, in the
Speaker 1: top five, it didn't pan out. Okay, let's see if
Speaker 1: Mike Whites the guy, and if he isn't, let's see
Speaker 1: who we can draft again. Well, I look, I think
Speaker 1: I think though, if you're a Jets fan, okay, remember
Speaker 1: you're like, well, I thought it was I thought Sanchez
Speaker 1: was the dude, and then he wasn't, or Geno and
Speaker 1: then he wasn't, and then Donald I was all in
Speaker 1: Undarnald and then he wasn't. Then it's so so in
Speaker 1: many ways, you know, Wilson gets the you know what
Speaker 1: because all these other dudes have been false prophets. And
Speaker 1: then you know you weren't really like and really seen
Speaker 1: him play as by us covid year, he's just you know,
Speaker 1: he's kind of he looks like he's more of a
Speaker 1: movie star than a football player or whatever. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can and again, if you're a hater, you can
Speaker 1: find anything you don't like to whether a guy can
Speaker 1: play or a guy who can't play, none of that matters.
Speaker 1: I think it's a culmination of things I really do.
Speaker 1: But yes, they gotta they gotta move on. Fox Sports
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Speaker 1: Wishing Eli and yours. The marriage of Christmas is happy Honeken,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year coming up this weekend. Can't get to
Speaker 1: this weekend without telling you, as we're coming from live
Speaker 1: from the tirect dot com studios. Last weekend was incredible,
Speaker 1: still going obviously, it's like one of those parties still going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chargers Colts tonight conclude three days is just awesome. Awesome
Speaker 1: NFL football. Who's um, there are more pertinent games in
Speaker 1: regards to the playoffs, right, like you mentioned the Packers. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati beaten New England is worthy of discussion. Carolina hanging
Speaker 1: around in that discussion with Tampa Bay as they beat Detroit.
Speaker 1: As you want to talk about a good old fashioned
Speaker 1: ask hope and whoa Carolina had two hundred yard rush
Speaker 1: at the half. At the half, um Pittsburgh, essentially ending
Speaker 1: the Raiders season. But also, you know, Mike Tomman still
Speaker 1: holding out hope for another season above five hundred, you know,
Speaker 1: as you're not gonna finish that five hundred anymore. But
Speaker 1: what happened yesterday at so far, and I'll grant granted,
Speaker 1: it's a game nobody has any right to have to
Speaker 1: pay attention to, right it's the Rams are playing for nothing.
Speaker 1: The Broncos are actually if they every time they lose,
Speaker 1: it helps the Seahawks, not the Broncos. Um. But this
Speaker 1: is a debacle. Russell Wilson throws three picks. Brett Rippon,
Speaker 1: for his part, comes in throws a pick as well.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield plays just about perfect football. Cam Akers rush
Speaker 1: for buck eighteen and the Rams win fifty one to fourteen,
Speaker 1: fifty one to fourteen. Did they did they quit on?
Speaker 1: Did the rest of the Broncos quit on Russell Wilson?
Speaker 1: Did they quit on the head coach? What happened to
Speaker 1: the bronco Because the Broncos are terrible, man, and we've
Speaker 1: been seeing this all year, but because Russell Wilson is
Speaker 1: a quarterback, it was as if a magic potion was
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna turn it around. Oh, he's gonna play better.
Speaker 1: And he fifteen for twenty seven, two hundred and fourteen
Speaker 1: yards and it was okay, he's been playing like that
Speaker 1: all year. And then to see Baker go twenty four
Speaker 1: for twenty eight and it was I mean, when you're
Speaker 1: if you're a Bronco fan, you did not have envisioned
Speaker 1: this to start the season. Russell Wilson has been good
Speaker 1: from his rookie year until now, and it's almost as
Speaker 1: if immediately he can't play. And when I look at it,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has proven himself for a decade, ten years.
Speaker 1: Hackett has never proven himself. I'm gonna go with the
Speaker 1: guy that has proven himself to say it can't be
Speaker 1: his fault. I need to see more of this. When
Speaker 1: when you look at Hackett and you go to Green Bay,
Speaker 1: because that's where he comes he comes from as an
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, he didn't call the plays. Lafleur was the
Speaker 1: play caller. Hackett just had the title of OC when
Speaker 1: he did call plays. When he was with the Jacksonville Jaguars,
Speaker 1: Look at their offense, they were awful. Now look he's
Speaker 1: getting Nathaniel Hackett's gone there's just no here's just no way. Right.
Speaker 1: You can't take over that team with that promise to
Speaker 1: that quarterback in that contract and go four and eleven
Speaker 1: regardless of injuries, whatever else you want to say, that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He's gone. The question is like, what's the
Speaker 1: likelihood that Russell Wilson can get it back. That's the
Speaker 1: big question because he was not good coming off of
Speaker 1: the thumb last year, and you know he's been He's
Speaker 1: been more than a little defiant in the past over
Speaker 1: what his whatever his limitations are, and now he appears
Speaker 1: to have some dramatic limitations. He doesn't He's run more
Speaker 1: and thrown more recently, but still doesn't move the same
Speaker 1: in the pocket. His arm is in the same throwing
Speaker 1: the ball deep down the field, and I mean he
Speaker 1: looks like a shell of himself. He looks like, how
Speaker 1: often do we even see him throw that deep ball
Speaker 1: like he threw in Seattle for many years? How often
Speaker 1: do we don't even see it as much? Right? But
Speaker 1: but if we can only we can only guess the
Speaker 1: reason we don't see this because when he's thrown it,
Speaker 1: it hasn't either gotten there as him been on target.
Speaker 1: She's not the same guy. There's no other way to
Speaker 1: I mean just not. I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: pick you play a entire season the way he has played.
Speaker 1: I can't disagree with you. But if if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play Devil's Advocate, the only thing I can come up
Speaker 1: with is coaching matters in the National Football League. And
Speaker 1: I played on three different teams my last three years
Speaker 1: in the league, and you're able to see why it matters.
Speaker 1: Certain coaches are just better than others. They understand more
Speaker 1: of you're more prepared. They'll tell you expect this on
Speaker 1: third down, and it happens on third down when this
Speaker 1: guy does this, this is what they're going to do.
Speaker 1: And that's what happens in other coaches. They just don't
Speaker 1: do that, and you miss that. You're like, ah, when
Speaker 1: I was playing with this team, we're more prepared. And
Speaker 1: is that going on now? Is that the case? I
Speaker 1: don't know, But even if it is, and say Hackett
Speaker 1: is not the type of coach that he had in Seattle,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't fall off this bat. It shouldn't be a
Speaker 1: really good player should be able to find a way
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, I won't be able to play the
Speaker 1: way I've played, but I can't be this bad. I
Speaker 1: feel like Russell, He's always gonna say the right thing.
Speaker 1: All I know how to do is keep working. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find a way. I'm gonna figure it out again.
Speaker 1: Go back to the fans. They don't want to hear that.
Speaker 1: They want to see one thing results. Here's Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: after the game. We're at a low moment right now.
Speaker 1: I don't fear low moments because I know that every
Speaker 1: time I've been in a low moment, I've always come
Speaker 1: to the other side of it. And that's in life.
Speaker 1: Losing my dad, that's in life, going through obstacles and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's in life and your career, whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: And all I know is to keep fighting, keep battling.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm gonna give. I'm gonna give everything
Speaker 1: I have every day. I mean, it sounds really good.
Speaker 1: It just really falls on deaf ears because everything out
Speaker 1: of him sounds like a Tony Robbins speech, you know,
Speaker 1: just just does. And I mean it's interesting like he
Speaker 1: got away with it so long and he was so
Speaker 1: he was he was fairly polarizing within I think league circles.
Speaker 1: But you know, with fans, people like you know, generally
Speaker 1: liked him, and now it's just like, oh god, so
Speaker 1: I wouldn't rather my quarterback approach it that way then say, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not at fault for anything if we go back,
Speaker 1: no question Wilson and the Jets. No, I would prefer
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's response. And you know what, though he truly
Speaker 1: believes what he said. He's not just saying it. He
Speaker 1: truly believes that. But guess what he's going nowhere? Well,
Speaker 1: but no, of course not. It's it's the same with
Speaker 1: all these guys. It's like Aaron Rodgers, like he ain't
Speaker 1: going anywhere, like look at that, look at all that money.
Speaker 1: He's not walking away from fifty nine millions. So anyway,
Speaker 1: But the point though is, and this is the big one,
Speaker 1: is you and I think we agree, like you're you're
Speaker 1: going to financially, you're gonna have to run it back
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson, and the likelihood of success is greater
Speaker 1: if you get back to a more conservative style, more
Speaker 1: like what he did and set. The problem with it
Speaker 1: is like I don't know if Russell doesn't know who
Speaker 1: he is, right, he I think he thinks he's the
Speaker 1: old Russell and he's not clearly not. And even the
Speaker 1: old Russell obviously Seattle thought they saw some limitations. That's
Speaker 1: why they put him in that situation, and he was
Speaker 1: at his best that way. But I just I don't
Speaker 1: think he knows who he is. I think he thinks
Speaker 1: he's I think he thinks the problems hacking, and he
Speaker 1: may be mostly right or partially right. But there's no
Speaker 1: way you can watch that and go that's the same guy.
Speaker 1: And that's the interesting part is that TJ is as
Speaker 1: as you try, and whether it's Zach Wilson, whether it's
Speaker 1: you know, you pick any of these quarterbacks that are
Speaker 1: getting a shot or not getting a shot or whatever,
Speaker 1: they get shell shocked and they throw these picks, like,
Speaker 1: how much of it is a twa Zach Wilson and
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson right, how much of it is talent? How
Speaker 1: much of it is they lose their confidence? How much
Speaker 1: of it is age right for Russell Wilson, Like, all
Speaker 1: of those things are really interesting because you wouldn't draft
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson number two of roall unless he had talent.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't people wouldn't tank for twa unless they thought
Speaker 1: he had talent. Now, I watched you a play against
Speaker 1: the Rams, and I was like, or actually against the Chargers,
Speaker 1: and I just thought his ball just died at the hole.
Speaker 1: Like there's they just does not have the wing for
Speaker 1: throwing the ball outside the numbers. But there's I know
Speaker 1: there's more took playing quarterback than that. And then you know,
Speaker 1: you look at Russell Wilson. He doesn't look to say
Speaker 1: how much of it is fixable with these guys, especially
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson, because as you said, like the Broncos,
Speaker 1: it's one thing to take a guy Zach Wilson you
Speaker 1: can move on from because of how for Shron draft
Speaker 1: pick contracts are to a tongue of Boloa you can
Speaker 1: move on from because of how for shun draft pick.
Speaker 1: You can't move on from Russell Wilson. The Broncos are
Speaker 1: way more screwed than the Dolphins and the Jets ever
Speaker 1: would be the bronc I mean, and you don't even
Speaker 1: have draft picks because you've given them Seattle was part
Speaker 1: of a trade. It really when you look at the
Speaker 1: last couple of years in Seattle, give me a contract
Speaker 1: extension or last few years and it's give me a
Speaker 1: contract extension, or I'm leaving as a free agent. This
Speaker 1: is what he tells, or this is what is reported.
Speaker 1: He tells Seattle's front office, Pete Carroll, John Snyder, they
Speaker 1: give him a contract extension. They when I say they,
Speaker 1: it's Russell Wilson and his agents and his people. They
Speaker 1: were making it seems as if Pete Carroll was the
Speaker 1: reason Russell wasn't what he wanted to be and he
Speaker 1: could have been, and they get rid of him. And
Speaker 1: it's as if Pete has been this really fantastic coach
Speaker 1: this entire time, Like look what Pete got out of Russell.
Speaker 1: Look what Pete is doing now with Gino. He really
Speaker 1: hid Russell Wilson's flaws. And when everybody wanted rusta cook,
Speaker 1: Pete knew he couldn't cook. Because now he's in this
Speaker 1: situation and he can't get it done. And so for Russell,
Speaker 1: I empathize when any player that was at the level
Speaker 1: that he was at and then you crash and it
Speaker 1: wasn't gradual, it was immediately. And I believe what he's saying, Oh,
Speaker 1: all I know how to do his work. I mean
Speaker 1: he wasn't drafted high. He was at NC State and
Speaker 1: you have to go to Wisconsin because they didn't believe
Speaker 1: in you. And so he's always had to overcome adversity.
Speaker 1: That's not what happened. But this time is different. But
Speaker 1: that's not that's not happening. Just like so he said
Speaker 1: this record straight, like when he's at NC State, wasn't
Speaker 1: they didn't believe in him. Is that they didn't wan
Speaker 1: him to go play pro baseball in summer. They wanted
Speaker 1: to hang around for his senior year. Get but but
Speaker 1: if if you're if you're a extremely physically talented quarterback,
Speaker 1: guess what They're gonna let you go play baseball in
Speaker 1: the summer. They're gonna let you do what you want
Speaker 1: to do. They're gonna let you do what you want
Speaker 1: to do. Right, and they had Glenning behind him. Who
Speaker 1: is behind him? Right? If you were if you're Caleb Williams,
Speaker 1: do you said I'm gonna play baseball, guess what the
Speaker 1: coach gonna say, I see you one of seasons over
Speaker 1: with no Kyler went and played play baseball. I'm I'm,
Speaker 1: but I'm But let's not act like O'Brien didn't want
Speaker 1: to keep him. I think he grew frustrated with the
Speaker 1: fact that spring and summer he didn't have his quarterback,
Speaker 1: and he asked him for one one spring and summer
Speaker 1: to hang around, and Russell was like, no, so but
Speaker 1: let's it's not it's not like they were like, dude,
Speaker 1: we don't want you anymore. And then he went to
Speaker 1: like he went to Wisconsin, you know, bet on himself whatever,
Speaker 1: went to a traditional running program and he had an
Speaker 1: unbelievable year, went to the Rose Bowl. Um. But look,
Speaker 1: I get the mentality of Russell Wilson. I get all that,
Speaker 1: but it''s like one of those when broadcasters say this
Speaker 1: all the time, right, Like when I'm if I sound
Speaker 1: like I'm old, somebody tell me, right, if I'm missing plays,
Speaker 1: somebody tell me. That's what real friend is like going
Speaker 1: to tell you when it's time to hang him up.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's time to hang him up.
Speaker 1: But you know, I got a good friend who covers
Speaker 1: the broncos. I was like, is he early years? Like
Speaker 1: is he heavy? Like no, he's like yoked up in chams,
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't move the same now he just doesn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's one of those deals where yes, Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: is taking a victory lap this year, and his thing
Speaker 1: was probably always I was trying to protect Russell from himself.
Speaker 1: I just I'm fascinated to see how what's the process, like,
Speaker 1: who can you hire? Who can get Russell back to
Speaker 1: being Russell? Because Russell ran off the offense coordinators in
Speaker 1: Seattle because he didn't like him, because he thought they
Speaker 1: were too conservative, It's gonna have to be like, you're
Speaker 1: not going to get a proven guy like Shampagne. Champayne
Speaker 1: is not going into that mess. So you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to get a god ass up and coming guy that
Speaker 1: wants an opportunity. Are we sure though, because because here's
Speaker 1: the thing, Okay, I generally agree with you, my guests
Speaker 1: would be that that would not be top on Champaigne's list.
Speaker 1: The Chargers win tonight, they're going to the playoffs. I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty hard to fire that guy if they
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs. Doug, I'm telling you what the
Speaker 1: talent that the Chargers have if they they're going to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. We know that the Chargers are gonna be
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Before the season on paper, I said,
Speaker 1: who had a better roster than Los Angeles Chargers. On paper,
Speaker 1: nobody had a better roster, so that is the only one.
Speaker 1: Niners are in that same discussion going into the season.
Speaker 1: I'm not so certain not going into the season only
Speaker 1: differences quarterback, dude. I mean, I mean, like, let's just
Speaker 1: be on the only the only differ much. Okay, you
Speaker 1: got Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, Right, you got Fred Warner,
Speaker 1: You try Kali Ma. Yes, I mean best secondary going
Speaker 1: into the season. The secondary the charge you said before
Speaker 1: you figured out JC Jackson couldn't play and then he
Speaker 1: got hurt, right, But going into the season with JC
Speaker 1: Jackson signed, he sang the Durham James that secondary. The
Speaker 1: Chargers offensive line was supposed to be a strength, the
Speaker 1: running game, their receivers, it was they lost for Shawn Slater,
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, if they haven't had Joey
Speaker 1: BOSEI I just feel that if the Chargers, if they're
Speaker 1: able to get Sean Payton, you gotta do it. We
Speaker 1: don't do well in the playoffs. We got to win
Speaker 1: a couple of games. If I'm in the Chargers ownership group,
Speaker 1: and if Sean Payne wants to come Sempayne is your
Speaker 1: job because he's proven. I know what he can do.
Speaker 1: You give him Herbert. The Chargers are gonna be good
Speaker 1: for the next decade consistently, the only thing they have.
Speaker 1: And I understand that Sean Payton called the plays not
Speaker 1: but not Lombardi. But he brought over like Lombardi's already there.
Speaker 1: He was the you know, he was with him in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. That would be played play calling, calling the
Speaker 1: right play at the right time. That's why Andy Reid
Speaker 1: is Andy Reid. That's why Sean Payton is Sean Payton.
Speaker 1: That's why Sean McVay, Kyle shanahanding them dudes at what
Speaker 1: makes them so good They call the right play at
Speaker 1: the right time. And guys like Hackett that's what makes
Speaker 1: them not so good because they don't call the right
Speaker 1: play at the right time. Well, Hacket steal there. They
Speaker 1: just he looked completely overwhelmed by the job. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't get plays forget about the right play, get
Speaker 1: a play in on time to start the year, and
Speaker 1: you end up losing everybody's faith to begin with. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the point more for Seattle is outside of Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: probably enough for sale for Denver. Outside of Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: who can fix it. It's a name that we haven't
Speaker 1: talked about. It's gonna have to be one of these
Speaker 1: younger officer coordinator type guys that just really understands the
Speaker 1: game of football, like not people Nadaniel Hackett. Yes, but
Speaker 1: you can't bring in a guy and it happens at times.
Speaker 1: It does happen at times. But I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: you can't bring in a guy that's never really called plays,
Speaker 1: but he's a coordinator because Mike McDaniel he didn't call plays.
Speaker 1: Shanahan didn't look at him, and so in essence, it
Speaker 1: is a roll of the dice. When you hire a
Speaker 1: god to be the head coach that's an offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: but he's not calling the plays, you are rolling the dice.
Speaker 1: Because what Mike McDaniel has done in Miami, he's turned
Speaker 1: it around from an offensive perspective. That's why hiring a
Speaker 1: coach there's no exact science of Okay, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: this guy and he's gonna you. You just don't know,
Speaker 1: but we do know. If they would have gone back
Speaker 1: and look at when Hackett did call plays, it didn't
Speaker 1: look good Jacksonville Jaguars were really good defensively when Hackett
Speaker 1: was offensive coordinator. I know we recalled that now yep.
Speaker 1: And they couldn't put up points. They couldn't score. He
Speaker 1: was the play caller. That should have been your warning,
Speaker 1: diver Broncos. That should have been your warning that they
Speaker 1: had this strong team defensively, but offensively they were a
Speaker 1: liability with the quarterback that was drafted extremely high. So
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought, oh, this quarterback cast talent.
Speaker 1: They just couldn't get it done. Here's Nathaniel Hackett after
Speaker 1: the game talking about the embarrassing loss. Everybody's frustrated, but
Speaker 1: that was a bad game, embarrassing game. That's the first
Speaker 1: one that we had like that, and so I know
Speaker 1: everybody's frustrated. We addressed it. We've talked about all those things,
Speaker 1: talked with Randy, talked with all those guys, and we
Speaker 1: can't show our frustration. We gotta take our frustrations out
Speaker 1: on the field the right way. Yeah. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: all this stuff is just words word salad, and just
Speaker 1: you end up being lost. I mean, you can't. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's like the Dan Campbell thing last year. Even
Speaker 1: though they weren't winning, they were still competing and fighting
Speaker 1: for him that that did not appear to be the
Speaker 1: case not appear to be the case that at this
Speaker 1: time of the year, I'm gonna just let all the
Speaker 1: fans know Christmases come, you're out of the playoff picture.
Speaker 1: Everybody's packing up to go home. They're gonna go to
Speaker 1: practice today. They starting to pack up. They especially the
Speaker 1: guys that don't live in a city where they play.
Speaker 1: Oh man, they sending stuff home right now. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't wait for a season. And they were two
Speaker 1: more in games. They packed up, They're ready to go.
Speaker 1: They're ready to go. It's so weird because I think
Speaker 1: I think the fan mentality is, well, it's the NFL guys,
Speaker 1: you can get cut whatever, you know, you want to
Speaker 1: put something good on tape. But the reality is that
Speaker 1: you know, you get beaten out enough at work and
Speaker 1: you're out of the playoffs, and it's very hard mentally
Speaker 1: to continue to stay locked in, very hard. It's I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's impossible, but that's just what happens. I mean,
Speaker 1: I lost early in my career with since and you
Speaker 1: just saw it like this is what goes on. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that's what goes on at the end of season. Hore
Speaker 1: Like guys just I wouldn't say they check out, but
Speaker 1: they're ready for the season to be over. What they're
Speaker 1: ready to go home. You're gonna play the game because
Speaker 1: it's extremely fun, but you're not. Guys wouldn't put the
Speaker 1: work in and practice late in the season that they
Speaker 1: were putting in early in the season. And I saw
Speaker 1: that as a young player, and it was just like
Speaker 1: a wild moment because usually this is your job, you
Speaker 1: would assume like and everybody didn't do that because there
Speaker 1: were some players that their professionals in the were committed
Speaker 1: to the cause of trying to turn things around and
Speaker 1: do things the right way. But certain guys man meetings
Speaker 1: start at eight o'clock. They was pulling into the parking
Speaker 1: lot at seven fifty five, like not walking into the
Speaker 1: meeting room at seven fifty five. Pulling into the parking
Speaker 1: lot at seven fifty five, walking into the meeting at
Speaker 1: seven fifty nine. It's just a different dynamic. When you're
Speaker 1: out of the picture this late in the season, they
Speaker 1: feel like, what am I playing for? What am I
Speaker 1: putting all this effort in? For not. This is your
Speaker 1: job and the game is fun, and so things can
Speaker 1: really start the snowball. And that's why the teams that
Speaker 1: are doing bad that play well late in the season.
Speaker 1: That's a tribute to the leadership on that team and
Speaker 1: the coaching staff that they're keeping those guys motivated out.
Speaker 1: Like you look at the Panthers that every reason to
Speaker 1: give up. Now they're still in the playoff picture, but
Speaker 1: every reason to give up. They got good leadership at
Speaker 1: the top because they're not letting that happen. They're not
Speaker 1: going to allow that to happen. You look at McVeigh,
Speaker 1: every reason to give up. The team full of backups.
Speaker 1: As you said, they're not letting that happen. Good leadership
Speaker 1: at the top, and certain teams they don't have that.
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Speaker 1: things to get to, including fans digging out the bills
Speaker 1: from their cars man the bills that they have great fans. Man,
Speaker 1: them fans love those players and vice versa. Manis I'd
Speaker 1: like to see that type of stuff. Man, that's a
Speaker 1: good relationship that the fans have with the players. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean they've they've taken the energy of jumping off
Speaker 1: of high buildings onto burning tables and turn them into
Speaker 1: pure fan them digging somebody else's car out from the snow,
Speaker 1: like I just I don't know. On Christmas Day, by
Speaker 1: the way, or Christmas Eve or Christmas Day or whatever,
Speaker 1: you're gonna dig somebody's car like, man, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to dig your own car out, buddy,
Speaker 1: you know what that is? That's hopefully whoever's car you're
Speaker 1: digging out. Yeah, we'll be on a team moving forward,
Speaker 1: because if you if I'm that player and you help
Speaker 1: me dig you never bought another ticket to go to
Speaker 1: a game. I'm always giving you tickets to come. I mean,
Speaker 1: not every Blue every home game, you got tickets from me. Hey, quick, quick,
Speaker 1: shout out to doctor Charlie Lacata. Okay, here's why. When
Speaker 1: I first moved to Connecticut in two thousand and two,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, two thousand twos so twenty years ago
Speaker 1: to work for the other place. I had two neighbors
Speaker 1: and when doctor Charlie Kai's actual doctor, family practitioner, and
Speaker 1: he would he like it's snow. And I used to
Speaker 1: work late night there. I used to do a show
Speaker 1: called Game Night. He done at one am, wake up
Speaker 1: at one third, get home in one thirty five. And
Speaker 1: he would plow. And I had a long driveway, the
Speaker 1: long driveway, and he plowed the driveway, just push it
Speaker 1: with a plow. And I try and offer him like
Speaker 1: booze or whatever. It's like, nah, it's my I like doing.
Speaker 1: It's my pleasure. You know. I put headphones on list
Speaker 1: of music. Anyway, Doctor Charlotte the card, I didn't plow
Speaker 1: your driveway, so I appreciate you plowing mine. And no
Speaker 1: pause intended in that one. Um who shot? I know
Speaker 1: this surprises you. But Anthony Davis is hurt again. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: And he was hooping. She was playing extremely well. But
Speaker 1: you know, it was just a matter of time. Like
Speaker 1: it was like, Wow, he's gonna stay healthy this year. Nope,
Speaker 1: and then he's not. It was just a matter of
Speaker 1: tim He's just one of those dudes, man, where his
Speaker 1: body it's fresh. Um, it's not It's no longer a
Speaker 1: matter of if he's gonna get hurt, it's when it's
Speaker 1: win now and you he's not trying to get hurt.
Speaker 1: He wants to play his body. It just won't hold up.
Speaker 1: And for him, especially for the Lakers on nobody wants
Speaker 1: to play more than the player. Without ad they don't
Speaker 1: with a d We had somewhat of a chance without him.
Speaker 1: Lebron has to be great every game, and even if
Speaker 1: he is great, that's just keeping you in the game.
Speaker 1: That's you're not even winning the game. Like listen their
Speaker 1: first half, and they granted the when they've taken these beatings,
Speaker 1: even when they had anything like one of the one
Speaker 1: of the important parts to point out was Andy Dance
Speaker 1: is playing great, um. But their first half schedule was
Speaker 1: light up until the member and then it got difficult
Speaker 1: and they did. They beat Milwaukee on the road to
Speaker 1: start that road swing, but after that they started losing again.
Speaker 1: Even with Anthony Davis, they went through a losing four
Speaker 1: out of five. Now since he's gone, they lost four
Speaker 1: in a row and they got to go to Orlando, Miami, Atlanta, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: UH Sacramento, Denver like all in the next week and
Speaker 1: a half, like they're gonna just take L after L
Speaker 1: after L and we're in that oh huh, no win
Speaker 1: somebody you forget I probably, but you forget that. Like
Speaker 1: part of the thing is there's still the Lakers to
Speaker 1: everybody else. That's still Lebron James. You still get everybody
Speaker 1: else's best shot. You're still getting uh you know, you're
Speaker 1: you're still getting packed places on the road just to
Speaker 1: see the circus that is, who's missed more games? Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis A Kawhi in it. It's a good one. Huh.
Speaker 1: I would say Kahy has missed it so far, but
Speaker 1: obviously moving forward, I'm talking like you know, over the
Speaker 1: course of their career, like percentage of games played. It's
Speaker 1: a great point. A Kawai's obviously has cranked up more
Speaker 1: and more as as since the since the San Antonio
Speaker 1: thing um, and and obviously Kawai getting hurt was that
Speaker 1: two years ago. Hurt hurt the Clippers and their chances
Speaker 1: to get out of the second round. But it's it's
Speaker 1: a great point. Clippers now sitting in in fifth place.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you do if you're the Lakers?
Speaker 1: I think you just can you do you just got
Speaker 1: to ride it out? What can you like? Is anybody
Speaker 1: going to give up a king's ransof Anthony Davis when
Speaker 1: you know he comes to your team the likelihood he's
Speaker 1: going to miss at least a quarter of the season
Speaker 1: at least every single year, And so are you giving
Speaker 1: up that to get him? Is he talented extremely? But
Speaker 1: I don't know what team would give that up. Sucks
Speaker 1: for the Lakers because they were starting to play better
Speaker 1: and this happens, Yep, it happen. Tjss one, I'm Doug Golie.
Speaker 1: All right, more back to the NFL upcoming next, Um,
Speaker 1: where are we on the Cowboys? And who's the best
Speaker 1: team in the AFCs we get right for the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Was a great question. That's next to Nan Patrick Show.