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Speaker 1: A late fifteen to ten touched up Suck. What's up? Guys,

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Speaker 1: Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, as always,

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Speaker 1: joined by Matt Bunny Smith. A lot to talk about still,

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Speaker 1: even though it's the end of day, the beginning of

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Speaker 1: OTA practices in the books, and hey, it's good to

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Speaker 1: see Daniel Popperback just got married and I read his

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Speaker 1: twelve observations and I was like, man, we've missed Popped

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Speaker 1: during these last few weeks. But he kept us updated

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of OTAs, which seemed like it was

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Speaker 1: perfect attendance Bunny for the most part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and congratulations to Pop and his beautiful pride.

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Speaker 2: And we do have a heck of a team of

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Speaker 2: beat writers, so good to see everybody out. And you know,

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Speaker 2: as we're recording this right now, we've got basically an OTA,

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Speaker 2: And you know, tip of the cap to Josh and

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Speaker 2: the whole pr team for making all these guys available.

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Speaker 2: This is not normal that you get to hear from

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Speaker 2: the Strength and Conditioning coach, the defensive backs coach, the

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Speaker 2: linebacker coach, the d line coach, the run game coordinator,

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Speaker 2: and tight ends coach. It's been a lot of fun

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Speaker 2: and incredibly I think educational and interesting to hear from

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Speaker 2: each of these guys and their path and how they

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Speaker 2: got on the staff and what it's like to coach

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Speaker 2: for Jim Harbaugh and what their vision is because it's

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Speaker 2: not just coordinators, it's position coaches and everybody's important. It's

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Speaker 2: been great. So again, just you know, shout out to

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Speaker 2: Josh and his team for and Coach Harbaugh for that matter.

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Speaker 2: A lot of coaches don't like their assistance talking for

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Speaker 2: making these guys available and sharing their coaching philosophies and

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Speaker 2: ideas with us. How thought the Navarro Bowman, I would

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Speaker 2: highly recommend everybody go listen to that. That was just fantastic.

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Speaker 2: They're linebackers coach who obviously played at an all pro

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Speaker 1: where I was going next. Money, It's so cool to

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Speaker 1: and then on the other side a guy like Navarro Bowman.

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Speaker 1: I think it just shows what coach Harball is all about. Right,

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Speaker 1: He's got his guys, but he also realizes that, hey,

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Speaker 1: there's ex players that could be really good coaches in

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Speaker 2: But that picking up it's a great point you made there, Chris,

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Speaker 1: You could tell Navarro two was excited about the room

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Speaker 1: All the subtle differences you mentioned, like the seven on

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Speaker 2: Sure we didn't see any eleven on eleven, which is fun. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: been a very music heavy ota none of that. This

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and relationships I think is the biggest word, right

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Speaker 2: and it was good to read that he was moving

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Speaker 2: all over. And that's another theme is you don't and

430
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 2: this is pretty common. It's not like this is exclusive

431
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 2: to the Chargers, but you never know. And to hear

432
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 2: that now we're trying everyone everywhere. Conky's getting snaps outside,

433
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 2: is getting snaps inside. Same with Quinton, same with all

434
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: of these receivers, Same with the defensive backs. That coach

435
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: clean Scale said, no, they all have to take reps

436
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: at Nickel. Now, maybe they're only a third down nickel.

437
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: Maybe they're not a first and second down nickel, or

438
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: they were an outside and now we realize no, they're

439
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: better inside. And he said, it's a position of attrition.

440
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 2: It always has been. So you have got to have

441
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 2: guys ready to play every single position, not just forcing

442
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 2: them there in the way that it lined up in

443
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: that first ota that was open to the media when

444
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: they were running eleven on eleven it was Fulton and

445
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 2: Samuel on the outside and Jossier on the inside playing nickel.

446
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: But that they you know, they rotated that first team defense,

447
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: saw some Tarheeds still in the slot, saw some cam

448
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: Hart on the outside. So it appears as though there's

449
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: still quite a bit to be sorted out with particularly

450
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: the defensive backfield. Same with safe. When Durwin was moved,

451
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: a linebacker was rushing the passer and they put an

452
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: extra safety on the field. It was a rotation with JT.

453
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: Woods and AJ Finley. So it feels like of all

454
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 2: the position groups that's gonna be, that's where the heat is.

455
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 2: The heat's in the defensive backfield. To figure out how

456
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: they want to put this puzzle together.

457
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that third safety of how they deploy these cornerbacks,

458
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: and then the offensive line with Trey Pipkins potentially moving

459
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: inside Jamari Sawyer some good competition there. We've heard coach

460
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: Harball talk about McFadden. I just wanted to get this right.

461
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: Joe All's twenty one years old Tooley's twenty one years old,

462
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: and Junior Colson is twenty one years old. So, like

463
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: we talk about the most important positions on the field,

464
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: Like Joe Alt is going to be just a rock

465
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: on the right side. You know, who knows what happens

466
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: in the future, but you're gonna have him for the

467
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: next decade. Tully edge rusher for the next decade, the quarterback,

468
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: your defense, Junior Colson for the next decade. Man, I

469
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: mean they had these young players. Ty Ty, our photographer,

470
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: sent me these ages and I was like, man, it's

471
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: it's pretty fascinating to see how quickly they're gonna be

472
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: able to build up. But just to go back to

473
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: the offensive line, money, what what do you think we

474
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: see going into training camp like those first five it

475
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: seems like a real possibility. The Trey pip because it

476
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: could play guard.

477
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: It's up to Tray, you know, it's up to trap.

478
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: I feel like we talked about this here and and

479
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: just what he's got to do. The difference between tackle

480
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 2: and guard. Tackle, you gotta you know, you're gonna get

481
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: punched in the mouth every snap, every single snap, you're

482
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: getting punched and you're getting beat up. And that's a

483
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 2: little different than tackle. Tackles a little more finesse and

484
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 2: a little more pass pro and guiding and redirecting. Guard.

485
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 2: It's a it's a street fight. And so it's you know,

486
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: people talk about build and arm length and and and

487
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: sand in the ass and all that, and yes, that

488
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: is all important, but ultimately, and talking to some people

489
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: that are that are very good at at this an

490
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: offensive line, that's the number one thing you know to

491
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: to take the And I may have even said this

492
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: last week, but I just think it's I think it applies.

493
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: It's the Marshawn Lynch quote. I'm all about that action, boss, Like,

494
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: if you're about that action, Trey is built to do it.

495
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: He's big, he's strong, he's long. You don't have to

496
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: be six three and and and wide ass to play guard. No,

497
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: I mean you you can do it. Now. You got

498
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: to have an anchor and you got to be able

499
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: to hold and you gotta be able to push forward.

500
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 2: But Tray can do it. We know that. It's just

501
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: a matter of if he's comfortable moving from tackle to

502
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 2: guard and getting your throat punched every single snap. It's different,

503
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: but it's happened. It happens all the time. Guys kick

504
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: in happen with the Chargers. We talked about it with Claire,

505
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 2: with Jeremy Clary was the right tackle. They draft DJ Flucker,

506
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: they kick him inside. He dominates, completely dominates going from

507
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: right tackle to right guard, and they end up making

508
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: a run because he was part of that offensive line group,

509
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 2: you know, Chris Dillman, same thing, flip them over from

510
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: from one side of the ball to the other and yeah,

511
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 2: this works. So you just never know. He's never been

512
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: asked to do it, so we don't know, but it

513
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: you know what we saw, it's a rotation. Saw your

514
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: guard tackle Pipkins tackle guard. So that's that appears to

515
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: be what it is. It's going to be one of

516
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: those two guys unless something shakes out post June one

517
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: cuts and there's somebody out there that they really like

518
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: that they want to put out there instead. But as

519
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: it stands right now, and again that is something that

520
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 2: is not going to be sorted out until pads are

521
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: on and it is full go, because it is it's

522
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: all about the physicality and whether or not you're comfortable

523
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: with it.

524
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Speaker 1: So there's two names on the offensive line I want

525
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: to run by you because I think at some point

526
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: during their time as being Chargers they popped a little

527
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: bit and for whatever reason, and they haven't played. And

528
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: more so, the first one is Brendan Himas. Do you

529
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: remember that preseason he had with I think with Slater's

530
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: rookie year two and he was moving guys in the

531
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: preseason and for whatever reason, he he didn't play much

532
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: the last few years. And I just I wonder if

533
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: this offensive line coaching staff can elevate the play of

534
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: guys like that himas Jordan McFadden is a guy who

535
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: didn't play much until the end of last year. We

536
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: heard coach Harball talk about him. But maybe these are

537
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: a couple of wildcards that can really elevate their play.

538
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: And obviously Zion. We've seen how big Zion has gotten

539
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: this offseason, and you know him in the weight room

540
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: with Ben Herbert has been amazing. But you know how

541
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: how he kind of can transform that and and I

542
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: guess translate that rather to the football field in his

543
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: third year is going to be another big question mark

544
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: for this team.

545
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: So Himus, if I remember right, Himus was drafted, he

546
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: was tackle and then they made him a guard and

547
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: now he's kind of been pushed to center. So there's

548
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: two There's two ways to look at it, and one

549
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: is probably would have shown it by now, especially considering

550
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: the attrition that the Chargers have experienced on the offensive line,

551
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: and makes you a little hesitant to to project okay

552
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: they can do this when they just for whatever reason,

553
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: have not yet have not earned those reps yet. We

554
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: do have a little bit of film on McFadden and

555
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: it's not fair, but just got totally dominated by Chris Jones,

556
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: which yeah, he's be'st defensive interior lineman in the league. Sore,

557
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: but but again, coaching, you've got different coaches and offense.

558
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: He was a rookie last year. Sorry interrupt, but he

559
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: was a rookie last year.

560
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what I mean, he's a rookie And that's

561
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: that's the difference between between McFadden and high Miss, right

562
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: is his High Miss is going into his fourth year

563
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: whereas Jordan barely got any reps last year is a rookie.

564
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: I think the concern about McFadden is just his size.

565
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: He is not big. He is, you know, in terms

566
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: of a here's one hundred and fifty five pound guy

567
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: saying he's not big in relation to other offensive and

568
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: defensive lineman. He's he's on a little on the small side.

569
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: And I think that's why you heard a little bit

570
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: of center and maybe center only for McFadden. But offensive

571
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: line is a technique position. It's not just strength and athleticism.

572
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: Technique is as it's more important to that position than

573
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: any other position on a football team. And technique is taught.

574
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: Technique is it's not. It's not a something that you

575
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: just have or you don't. Now, you have the athleticism

576
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: to implement the technique and you have the body flexibility

577
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: to implement the technique.

578
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: That you're being taught.

579
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: But if you're not being taught properly and technique is

580
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: not something that is priority number one, then yeah, what

581
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: you're speaking to is is certainly in the cards, and

582
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: you have a new set of coaches that can unlock that.

583
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: And maybe you do have the strength and athleticism and

584
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: intelligence to be able to do what's asked of you.

585
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: You were just asked to do things that perhaps let

586
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: the whole group down or weren't taught properly. So that's

587
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. And they didn't draft the center.

588
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: They you know, they drafted, they didn't draft the guard.

589
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: They they signed some in free agency. But yeah, so

590
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: there that would lead you to believe that they liked

591
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: what they saw and they believe that they can correct

592
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: some of this stuff and make do with what they

593
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: have on the roster, and instead decided to attack some

594
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: different positions in the draft.

595
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, competitors, welcome, right, it's saw your pipkins zion and

596
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: you know a host of guys. You know, we talked

597
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: about Barnhart from Michigan, a guard that that yeah, he

598
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: played with the team, played with the second team. Uh, defensively,

599
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: we talked about I think Poperam just the fact that

600
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: Irwin was moving around a little bit. Who wears that

601
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: green dot is going to be intriguing. It sounds like

602
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: a Koulbie Coulson, he knows the system. It would be

603
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: different to have a rookie call in the place. This

604
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: upcoming season.

605
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: But Bowman put the kabash on that a little bit.

606
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: He was asked specifically, I'm sure you remember that in

607
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: the presser, and he just said, yes, he knows the

608
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: defense better than anyone and it's early, but that's a

609
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: lot to put on a rookie. He so I'm not

610
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: saying he completely shut the door on that, but he

611
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: did not for as enthusiastic as he was when asked

612
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: about Junior. When he was asked about Junior wearing the

613
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: green dot, that enthusiasm disappeared pretty quickly, he felt, And

614
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: that's something to remember. These guys are taking on a lot. Man,

615
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: They're trying to figure out so much and dealing with

616
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: the level of physicality that they did not have to

617
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: deal with snap and snap out week in week out,

618
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: depending on the opponent in college. So to now make

619
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: them the captain and responsible for all the calls and

620
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: kidding the right guys in the right spots, that may

621
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: be a little much. The other thing that he said

622
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: about the linebackers that I thought was just, you know,

623
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: very upfront, was yeah, Dan was here last year, that's

624
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: his don't give up the position, you know, for a

625
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: guy that could not get on the field last year

626
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: with that last coaching staff, much to our chagrin considering

627
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: the level of play at the linebacker spot and how

628
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: disappointing it was at times, he could not get his

629
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: reps in that. Bowman would say, Oh, no, he's he's

630
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: a guy that was here. That position is his now

631
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: it's up to him not to give it up. So

632
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: that's that's encouraging for a guy that we liked watching

633
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: practice and liked watching play in the preseason and felt like, yeah, dude,

634
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: this is this is the linebacker. This is an athletic

635
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: linebacker in the NFL in twenty twenty three, and he's

636
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: built with the extra twenty pounds that the other guys

637
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: don't have that play the way he plays, you know,

638
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: to be able to thump and tackle and create violence

639
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: at that position that you need to. And yet he

640
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: never saw the field. So to hear that from Bowman

641
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: was also very encouraging. So I don't know if it's

642
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: Henley and Pairman. His answer on Pairman was interesting because

643
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: it almost sounded like more about the intangibles and the

644
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: knowledge and the presence and setting a tone and this

645
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: is how we practice, and this is how we prepare,

646
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: and this is what you need to do to be

647
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: effective as opposed to the game day stuff. That seemed

648
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: to be the way he described and he mentioned I

649
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: specific when I knew Denzel was out there, I specifically

650
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: said we got to go get this guy, so that

651
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: if I had to guess, I think it'll be Colson

652
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: and Henley that would be my guess.

653
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you think, so this is the thing about May.

654
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've had an off season quite

655
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: like this where there's so much to be determined. Like

656
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: even last year they kind of ran it back with

657
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 1: the same crew and there wasn't a lot of debate

658
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: as to position battles and who's gonna be doing what

659
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: this year. Man, there is so much. There's a laundry

660
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: list of things that we can talk about going into

661
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: training camp, and like you know, fans are intrigued, like

662
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: who's gonna call the place? Is it gonna be Durwin again?

663
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: And is it going to be too much for Drwin?

664
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: Are they gonna like take less off of uh, take

665
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: a little bit more off of his plate so he

666
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: can just play a little faster, or you know, is

667
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: Junior going to pick up everything in training camp to

668
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: a to a point where they're like, hey man, we

669
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: got to give it to him, or is it gonna

670
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: be a guy like Denzel or Henley. There's just I

671
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: think a lot to be determined. And Navarro, you're right,

672
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: like like he's played in this league. He knows what

673
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: it's like to be a rookie and you don't want

674
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: you don't want your head to be spinning and then

675
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: having more responsibilities put on your plate.

676
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: No, if I had to guess after hearing him say that,

677
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: I guess it's Derwin. He's clink Scale just you know,

678
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: just beamed. I'm talking about him, how he's the alpha,

679
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: he's in the front row, he's the one asking a

680
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: million questions. They are go to move him around, But

681
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: it also sounded like they weren't going to get crazy

682
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: because he talked about how good he is as a tackler,

683
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: as a as a pass rusher, and he said and

684
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: and he can cover, But he didn't quite say, you

685
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: know so, I wonder if yeah, they can move them

686
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: all around, but they can also do it in a

687
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: way that it's not going to affect how much he's

688
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: got to sort through all the time. Hey, you're a nickel.

689
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: Now you're an out. Now you're a boundary corner. Oh,

690
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: now you're a high safety. It sounds like, yeah, well

691
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: we can move him around, but we can move him

692
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: around in the context of his playing. Safety is more

693
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: of how I felt that that question was answered. So

694
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: if if I had to gas, if you're asking me

695
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: to bet some money on the futures, yeah, I bet

696
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: Derwin's probably gonna wear that green dot J T.

697
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: Woods. What a year it is going to be for

698
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: him to prove it himself that third safety. You look

699
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: at all the different position groups that are to be

700
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: determined right now, I think third safety right now is

701
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: maybe the most intriguing is to who's who's gonna grab

702
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: that and take that? And you mentioned the puzzle pieces

703
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: in the secondary. Right now, it seems like just a

704
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: bunch of pieces just scattered, and how that comes together

705
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: is probably maybe the top two or three questions we

706
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: have going into camp. You know, you hear Sante Simon

707
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: Junior had a good day a couple of days ago,

708
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: and obviously he's gonna be one of the starters. But

709
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: how they weave these rookies in and some of these

710
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: veterans who were here with the previous administration. Uh, that's

711
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: that's one of the top questions that I have going

712
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: into that that first training camp practice and Elsa Gundo.

713
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, as they described, it's OTAs, we're not

714
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: you know, we're we're trying to prepare these guys and

715
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 2: get them as ready as we can before they leave

716
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: for those six seven weeks and and come back in July.

717
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: So it's all just beginning. It's none of it's been

718
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: real football. It's been sort of theoretical football. This is

719
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: what we like to do. This is what you do.

720
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: You know, can you comprehend what would you do in

721
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: this situation? Here's the pre snap. Look, here's the snap.

722
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: So it's a lot of that, and I especially in

723
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 2: the case of like you mentioned, JT looks the part

724
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 2: certainly looked. The part at Baylor was picking off six passes,

725
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: you know, picking off six balls, and and then just

726
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: gets out there and all of a sudden it speeds

727
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: up and it got tough for him. So and again,

728
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: June first is a big day because post June first cuts,

729
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: the way it affects the cap will affect who is

730
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: out there and whether or out they're ready to because

731
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: they've been adding right since we But the pre's a

732
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: big signing. DJ Shark's a big signing, Like those are

733
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: guys that are going to make the roster that are

734
00:37:55,080 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: going to be starters rotation like heavy rotation players, And

735
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: there could very well be quite a few more available.

736
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: Maybe there is a guard, maybe there is another center,

737
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: maybe there's a safety. Maybe Justin Simmons number drops to

738
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: a point where he just wants to get on a

739
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 2: team where he's going to go out and show it.

740
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: And now now we're having the question about a loi

741
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: and how does this shake out now at this safety position.

742
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: So there's so much more that can change, just because

743
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: we've now hit the second wave of free agency and

744
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: we're about to hit the third wave. And the third

745
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: wave is a pretty big deal because that's the post

746
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: June one established vets who tend to have bigger contracts

747
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, their teams are ready to move

748
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: on from them.

749
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin Simmons av and Howard are the two big

750
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: secondary names that have yet to sign, and I'm sure

751
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: that they've been in touch with teams. It's just a

752
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: matter of maybe that post June first getting on and yeah,

753
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, there's also something to you said about veterans

754
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: not really wanted to partake in training camp. So maybe maybe, yeah,

755
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: maybe some of these guys. You know, hey, before we

756
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: get out of here, you want to talk a little

757
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: bit about Roger Cadell's press conference. Oh yeahhal of eighteen

758
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: games and just the new wave of what we're going

759
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: to see with these schedules.

760
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought it was interesting just because we see

761
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: so many Charger fans on the road. They travel really well.

762
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: I don't they get nearly enough credit the Powder Blues

763
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: for ending up in these cities. When we're on the

764
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: road and we're walking around the field and we see

765
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: them all, and it's always fun to interact with them.

766
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: If you ever see us and you recognize us, which

767
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: is ridiculous, but if you do, be sure to holler out.

768
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: We always love chatting with you because they're typically down,

769
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: you know, barking at the coaches and everybody that they know,

770
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: and it's wonderful. But so eighteen games, two buys, it

771
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: sounds like that's coming and coming sooner than later. And

772
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: it was something that I had heard probably three maybe

773
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: four years ago, was the first time I had heard,

774
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: and I don't mean just like you know, this would

775
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: be I heard this is going to happen. It's going

776
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: to be eighteen and t because, believe it or not,

777
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: it ends up making more sense. And it was before

778
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: the seventeenth game was added. It was like seventeen and three,

779
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: seventeen and three three person, that's what I'm talking about.

780
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: Eighteen regular two point. They're always going to keep it

781
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 2: at twenty, but they would say eighteen and two makes

782
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: more sense because we can give a second buy. We'll

783
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: elongate the season by a week. The second buy is

784
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: going to be huge. We know talking to players how

785
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: much they look forward to that bye week, and so

786
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: to get a second buy in there to add one

787
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: more game is really more valuable than because they're going

788
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: to get another game check. So they're going to make

789
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: a ton more money. But it's it's better than seventeen

790
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: with one buy like that, the idea of eighteen and

791
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: two buys is better than seventeen and one by So

792
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: that to me feels like, yeah, just figure the money

793
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: out and get that sorted. And then what I had

794
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: also heard way back when before the seventeenth game was added,

795
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: was that when the seventeenth game was added when they

796
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 2: were pushing back on a it was going to be seventeen.

797
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: It's a business. It's business that makes billions of dollars.

798
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: The way that they would extract the most money was

799
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: to make this you would get eight home, eight away,

800
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: your seventeenth games in international game, and then you're cashing

801
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: in on all that international market money. The broadcast partner,

802
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 2: the gate, the fact that when we played the Titans

803
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: at Wembley there were ninety thousand people there, like, you're

804
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: all getting a cuttle And remember, soccer is the most

805
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: popular sport in the world. So all of these markets

806
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 2: have these massive, state of the art soccer stadiums that

807
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: can fit eighty and ninety thousand people in them. So

808
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: the market is just too lucrative for And there's a

809
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: reason why there's three London games, a Brazil game, a

810
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: Germany game, Like we're going to start on that once

811
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: Stadiosteca is finished, We're going to start seeing two a

812
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: year in Mexico City, because that things when we were

813
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: down there with the Chiefs, there were eighty thousand people

814
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: at that thing, Like, that's that's what we're going to see.

815
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: That's my prediction is that in you know, eighteen with

816
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 2: two buys and the Super Bowl on President's Day weekend,

817
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: officially making Super Bowl Sunday a holiday because it's a

818
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: federal holiday the next day. Now that you're playing it

819
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: a week later, it all just lines up, and it's

820
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: just a matter now of how do you split a

821
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: ten billion dollar pie and how much just each side want,

822
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: and that's where things always get complicated. But I would

823
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: be very surprised with the Rams announcing that they're now

824
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: partnering with South Korea, Japan, Australia. You've got all of

825
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: these markets lined up and ready to go. Look, the

826
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 2: trip between here or San Francisco or Seattle or Arizona

827
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 2: to Japan is no different than us flying to Germany.

828
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: So why would they not you know, tap that market.

829
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: There's eighty thousand seat stadiums inke In and around Tokyo,

830
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: soccer stadiums, outdoor stadiums where you can play Chargers, forty

831
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: nine Ers, Seahawks, Cardinals, and it's no different than the

832
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: teams from the East Coast head on over to Germany.

833
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: So to me, that lines up Australia. No, that's a hawk, man,

834
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: That's that's a freaking hawk.

835
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: It's play two games at Australia.

836
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: Just yeah, that that's pretty gnarly.

837
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: You remember twenty eighteen, this little inside baseball for our fans.

838
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: But I'll never forget this. Uh, we were down to

839
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: one play against the Titans to potentially go to overtime.

840
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: Had we gone to overtime, we wouldn't have made our flight.

841
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: We would have got had flown to Miami and sat

842
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: on the tarmac for like four hours and then flown

843
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: back to LA because the for whatever reason, the lane

844
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't be open from London to LA whatever the particular

845
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: lane that you're allowed to fly in, So we would

846
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: have had to flow to Miami, sat and then you know,

847
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 2: sat from I don't know two am until four thirty

848
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: or five am and then flowing the rest of the way.

849
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: But was it was it Jeff Fisher who was?

850
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: No?

851
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: It was what am I saying? Not Jeff Fisher. Was

852
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: Mike Grabel? God blessed Mike Grabel. It was yeah, yeah

853
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: for going for going for two and uh and the

854
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: Chargers got the win and it was a fun flight.

855
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: I think you were looking.

856
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Speaker 2: The rest wouldn't go up and I had to sleep

857
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: with a freaking arm rest in my back for six hours.

858
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: We were looking at a photo. I think it was

859
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: Tire Bikes showed us a photo of you ha DJ

860
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Speaker 1: at the final call, and you could just tell how

861
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: conflicted you're trying to call the game, but you're also

862
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: realizing that, Hey, just goes the other way. Exactly, got

863
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: problems tonight.

864
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: I got problems exactly, exactly, very true.

865
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Speaker 1: Always thinking about logistics. You got to you got to

866
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: all right, Well, you know what, hopefully international is in

867
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: the future of the Chargers. Not this year. We were

868
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: hoping for that Germany game, but the Giants got it.

869
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: I think it would have really wanted it a little

870
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: more intriguing to have Jim Harball in the in the

871
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: Powder Blues out in the in Germany taking on the Panthers.

872
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Speaker 1: But what do we know.

873
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Speaker 2: I was hopeful, but alas here we are stuck in

874
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: this just horrible market of Los Angeles for all of

875
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: these games.

876
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Speaker 1: Yeah, instead of Germany, we will go to Carolina week two,

877
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Speaker 1: followed by a week three trip to Pittsburgh, so back

878
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: to back to the coast trip. So it'll be fun,

879
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: all right, Hey, I was texted with Popper. We'll try

880
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: to get him on maybe next week of the week

881
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: after get his thoughts on everything. I know he was

882
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: gone for a chunk of the draft and post draft stuff,

883
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: so guess get his thoughts and observations, and yeah, what

884
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: do we got?

885
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 2: We got? So next week will be an open week

886
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: because the next round of OTAs is May twenty nine,

887
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: thirty and thirty one, So next week's wide open. Nobody's

888
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: doing anything. Today's the last day of this this round

889
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: of OTAs twenty twenty one and then twenty three. They

890
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Speaker 2: had yesterday off the day. We're recording this on May

891
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: twenty third, so yeah, perfect.

892
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Speaker 1: Cool, we'll do that. I appreciate you if hey listen,

893
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: if you're listening in May late May, you're a you're

894
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: a die hard and and we appreciate your rights freaks,

895
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Speaker 1: and we love you. We love the freaks, all right.

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Speaker 1: For buddy, I'm Chris. This is Bitch Chargers. Please m

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