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Speaker 2: The world's a biget. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Everything right

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Speaker 2: now the Patriots are doing is under a microscope. This

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Speaker 2: big news that's coming out. And you know the Patriots

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Speaker 2: are interested in a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, I think you could talk to Robert for

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Speaker 3: me and say, listen, Paul's having a tough time.

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Speaker 4: Can you get him a bonus? I need some cash.

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Speaker 4: I need some cash flow.

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Speaker 2: Jewels.

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Speaker 4: You've been working here for twenty manues.

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Speaker 3: You gonna catch you.

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Speaker 2: Before the show, I was watching that Get It Up

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Speaker 2: show on ESPN with the Greenberg and I was a

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Speaker 2: Jerry Seinfel fan before he was Jerry Sielone.

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Speaker 4: You invented it, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Caleb Williams is not the consensus number one overall

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Speaker 3: picking on everyone's board.

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Speaker 2: But I think it is kind of a story because.

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Speaker 4: I'm not surprised by how he was. I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, I don't think so God, yes, Paul, I

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Speaker 3: should say or she, because I don't remember where we

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Speaker 3: had the report originally.

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Speaker 2: Sure, this wasn't one of your straw people. I love Macao's.

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Speaker 2: Oh so we got EVID induced You like the show?

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium. Induce what do you what is this?

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Speaker 6: We got a new monitor?

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Speaker 3: This I'm used to like.

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Speaker 4: We come back and everything's different.

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Speaker 2: Well, the old monitor just died, so we had to

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Speaker 2: replace it with another monitor.

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Speaker 6: It's got a it's got a booster on it.

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Speaker 2: And didn't die.

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Speaker 7: Or did you and Paul break it while we were gone?

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Speaker 4: Well could have been, but that was here when I

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Speaker 6: Who was sitting in my seat while I was gone?

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Speaker 8: Young man?

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Speaker 4: That would be me? So why is the show grinding

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Speaker 4: to a halt? Well it all started off from Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Friend goes, it's a lot of stuff going on in

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Speaker 3: Indian and I go, if you say so.

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Speaker 2: Oh, come on, that was Tuesday. I think I think

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Speaker 2: it was one of the better combines.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, got that picture you want to show?

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Speaker 8: Friend?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I agree. You know, it's like seventeen people at the

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Speaker 3: All the other tu Yeah, that was bad.

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Speaker 2: But so that's what we're going to talk about mostly

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Speaker 2: is Deuce and Evan and have returned from the Combine

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Speaker 2: and to get their reports from being there, you know,

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Speaker 2: because watch it on TV all you want and read

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, Well it started off a lot different. Just

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Speaker 10: This was the most tiring combine of my five combines,

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Speaker 10: This combine, it was totally different. H you know, just

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Speaker 7: It's definitely refreshing. I was just telling them this morning,

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Speaker 6: Was just nice to see they would have done the same.

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Speaker 7: Yes, certain staff members have them like say hello, be

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Speaker 3: It was just very refreshing, and.

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Speaker 2: I think it's also exciting because you know, for the

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Speaker 6: That's why it felt like kind of a build up

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Speaker 10: But yeah, the d line and linebacker day was rough.

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Speaker 10: just because one guy told you something when you're out

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Speaker 10: April twenty sixth. So I really feel like the only

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Speaker 10: and I think everybody else is just kind of a

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Speaker 2: Would be really disappointed if anyone in this room knew

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Speaker 4: You know, I'd be kind of disappointed if they knew

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Speaker 3: To do right now, right because that was just to

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Speaker 3: illustrate your point, Freddie, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I think some of the conversations we have with Jerrod,

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Speaker 10: the Top thirty visits, I think are going to be

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Speaker 10: they can really go in depth. These Combine interviews are

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Speaker 10: eighteen minutes, so it's it's not really it's just getting

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Speaker 10: Once we get into Top thirty visits, that's when you

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Speaker 10: really get down to brass tacks about this what this

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Speaker 10: I think there's going to be a lot of stock

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Speaker 6: Well, Evan put actually i'll tee up for this one.

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Speaker 6: I mean, just talk a little bit about the kind

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Speaker 2: By the way, I've started my film stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, Oh I can't wait for that.

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Speaker 10: I just I think the biggest thing was that was

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Speaker 10: the field. Drake May was all energy, just jumping up

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Speaker 7: So what do y'all think of JJ McCarthy being added

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Speaker 2: First, overall, it's interesting, you know, we kind of asked

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Speaker 2: But now that you know, it's a few days afterwards,

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Speaker 2: are you hearing the same thing that we heard that

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Speaker 2: McCarthy is rising up and could be in the top four?

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Speaker 6: Little bit, I mean, I just I kind of I

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Speaker 10: I think it's just easier to look at his tape

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Speaker 10: then it's easier to say that like.

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Speaker 10: I said, Yeah, I mean Max Alabama offense was a

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Speaker 4: But yeah, well.

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Speaker 2: He's higher floor.

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Speaker 10: Well the thing is is, though, is that he That's

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Speaker 10: the thing that I can't understand is that that those

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Speaker 10: pro style offense, and he won a lot of games,

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Speaker 10: and he was clutch and all these kind of things,

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Speaker 10: and but then you watch the film and he's raw.

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Speaker 10: Mechanically, He's extremely raw, and we saw it even throwing

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Speaker 10: he's a raw talent. But then you listen to people

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Speaker 10: we really like how he translates and his game translates

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Speaker 3: Still, it just it makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: So do you think it's warranted that he's now being

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Speaker 6: No, I mean I wouldn't. I wouldn't want the patios

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Speaker 2: So this is just smoke, you think.

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Speaker 6: But I it feels like he's sur pass Penix.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I don't know if it's smoked, but I

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Speaker 3: don't I don't really love the prospect. Now, I will

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Speaker 3: say he's a thousand times more talented than Mac Jones.

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Speaker 3: He's a much better athlete than Mac Jones. Yeah, he

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Speaker 4: He can make plays, as Evan likes to say, off platform.

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Speaker 3: You know, he keeps the best part of his game.

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Speaker 3: He can do things that Mac Jones doesn't have the

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Speaker 3: I think this is sort of a projection and somehow.

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Speaker 6: This is you know, you talk yourself into it.

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Speaker 3: can't do that because we never saw him do that.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, this guy won a lot of games

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Speaker 3: by handing the ball off and relying on defense, and

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Speaker 3: everybody says, but he could be much more than that.

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Speaker 3: I think people are starting to buy it. I just

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Speaker 3: a replay of the Good Morning Football and they have

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Speaker 3: him at number nine in a trade, Chicago making a

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Speaker 4: I didn't see who the team was, but.

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Speaker 3: This was a guy who was considered maybe a possible

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Speaker 3: late first round pick, probably a Day two pick two

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Speaker 10: Thing, whoever's running his pr It's been a minute since

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Speaker 10: I've seen a quarterback hyped up this much by.

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Speaker 6: Off of like performance.

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Speaker 3: Exactly like you guys were there. The rows were terrible,

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Speaker 3: and somehow everybody's like, he threw the ball, Well, well

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody else did. No one else did?

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Speaker 10: I thought Panics threw the ball really well. But he

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Speaker 10: He's got a great arm. How about the ones in

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Speaker 7: Yeah, McCarthy, I was gonna say, I feel like if

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I think that's that's what he should really needs. Well,

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Speaker 6: feel like you can develop them a little bit. But

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Speaker 2: So it sounds to me that Jayden Daniels is number

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Speaker 2: You would say May is too. Yeah, JJ McCarthy talking

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Speaker 10: Like, Yeah, I think I think JJ McCarthy is jumping Daniels.

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Speaker 10: If you listen to what people are saying. That's that's

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Speaker 10: what's happening right now. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I

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Speaker 10: and it's Williams. And I know you don't like to

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Speaker 2: But I said that last No Show, Andy arguing I

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Speaker 3: I'm going to.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to.

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Speaker 3: I want to give a fifteen second thing to to

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Speaker 3: the three people who weren't here. Yes, please, I think

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Speaker 3: there's a difference between the consensus number one pick and

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Speaker 3: the consensus number one on the board. Do you guys agree, Yes, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think so. Fred either didn't understand what I was

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Speaker 3: that's not I think that you were He has been

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Speaker 3: the consensus number one overall pick here for a long time, right, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: he's probably and Fred and I agree, And now he

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Speaker 4: And I said, that's not the same thing.

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Speaker 2: No, but that and what I said and either one.

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Speaker 4: I was curious to see if you got to start

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Speaker 2: That report didn't what they meant.

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Speaker 3: I went back and saw the report. They've said number

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Speaker 2: I know they said that, but what I'm but the

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Speaker 4: Nope, I went back and heard it all right. I

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Speaker 2: I know, Paul I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: The point was that not everybody thinks he's the best

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Speaker 3: don't think that that almost ever happens. I think short

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's not news, right?

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Speaker 3: I agree, And I think that they were trying to

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Speaker 3: I think it's all part of the nonsense weakness that

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Speaker 2: Because because I think that what they were trying to

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Speaker 3: That's that no one, because that would be new. No

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean along those lines. The interesting thing too,

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Speaker 6: you know, if we're going to make that decision to

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Speaker 6: you're kind of going to know where the Patriots stand

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Speaker 6: And it's not going to be a draft day trade.

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Speaker 2: I do want to continue on this evaluation of these quarterbacks,

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Speaker 6: That's gotten some pushback. Yeah, that's gotten some especially with

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Speaker 6: I haven't seen that.

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Speaker 2: Bucks and Baker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I think the report was Michael Mike Evans

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Speaker 10: I don't think that the Daniel Jeremiah thing was anything

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Speaker 4: And you know that's.

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Speaker 2: A complete speculation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's just connecting dods and I agree with

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Speaker 3: the funny thing, the more I'm reading about it a

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Speaker 4: The brain Trust didn't.

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Speaker 2: But Dard said that last night.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it didn't go all that well, maybe they

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Speaker 7: So one more thing on Jane Dams before we completely

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Speaker 7: go away from quarterbacks. Do you guys agree with the

444
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Speaker 7: reports of like there should be some concern about him

445
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Speaker 7: not playing in cold weather or do you think like, oh,

446
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Speaker 7: it's football.

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Speaker 3: Phil Perry, I think that's huge.

448
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was an extensive thing about him, you know,

449
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Speaker 2: even playing up here in Foxborough, that he's from California,

450
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Speaker 2: played at LSU.

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Speaker 6: You know that's I mean. And look, I think Evan

452
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Speaker 6: and I are kind of on the same page. We

453
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Speaker 6: talked about a plenty in India of like either one

454
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Speaker 6: it's fine, Drake May or or him, But I think

455
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Speaker 6: it's really Drake May is probably a little bit of

456
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Speaker 6: the preference right now. And you know, you're just kind

457
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Speaker 6: of wondering, is Washington intrigued by Jade daniels skill set

458
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Speaker 6: to match with Kyle Shanahan and will that elevate him?

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and I would need to be more convinced

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Speaker 3: on the physical skill set because I don't It doesn't

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Speaker 3: bother me that he's never played in bad weather. It

462
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Speaker 3: would bother me if he's I think Mac Jones is

463
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Speaker 3: bothered by playing in bad weather, right, because I don't

464
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Speaker 3: think he has the physical skill set to do it.

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Speaker 3: And I don't mean to make this all about beating

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Speaker 3: up on Mac. You know, Drake May has probably not

467
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Speaker 3: played a lot of games in bad weather read right,

468
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Speaker 3: But I think the frame you know, would tell you

469
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Speaker 3: he can he can play like that, and I think

470
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Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels probably does too. I think his skill set

471
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Speaker 3: probably is gonna be fine. I think skill set, but

472
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Speaker 3: but it's not up here for Mac Jones. Mac Jones

473
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Speaker 3: has our hard time ripping the ball through through wind.

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Speaker 10: Let's let's see what Let's see what Jaden daniels hand

475
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Speaker 10: size measures to that. Yeah, because just Drake May's hands

476
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Speaker 10: are are below average. It's like nine in one eighth. Yeah, Like,

477
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Speaker 10: I mean it's they're fine. Like, it's not like he's

478
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Speaker 10: got Kenny Pickett hands nine sorry, Kenny pick seven eight

479
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Speaker 10: Kenny Pickett hands if you're under nine, and we truck

480
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Speaker 10: And the fact that he didn't want to measure in

481
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Speaker 10: at the Jombai. It was, you know, more about a

482
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Speaker 10: weight thing, right, probably trying to add weight in between

483
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Speaker 10: now and the pro day at the end of March.

484
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Speaker 10: But yeah, I mean the weather thing doesn't bother me

485
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Speaker 10: as much as it might with other people because he

486
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Speaker 10: can run. So if you're worried that he's not going

487
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Speaker 10: to be able to, you know, rip the ball through

488
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Speaker 10: wind and stuff like that, well, you know, if you

489
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Speaker 10: run it thirty times, it's not as big.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I said, Like, I think it's something

491
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Speaker 3: to put on the radar because I don't think everybody

492
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Speaker 3: can do it. I promise myself I wouldn't get into

493
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Speaker 3: these combined things. But you bothered all you bothered at

494
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Speaker 3: all by the fact that Daniel's like you know, so

495
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Speaker 3: you didn't get that way in.

496
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Speaker 10: Yeah, because a little bit, because what he's gonna eat

497
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Speaker 10: Big Max between now and LSU's Pro Dad.

498
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Speaker 4: So so he's gonna just be like his his number.

499
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Speaker 3: And I think, boy was so mad.

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Speaker 4: Who's my boy, mar Alex? Yeah, it was so mad

501
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Speaker 4: on Sunday morning.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's it's not the biggest

503
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Speaker 10: concern in the world, but the number that you get

504
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Speaker 10: from LSU later this month is going to be inflated

505
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Speaker 10: like that. He's not going to play at the number

506
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Speaker 10: that he weighs in at at the LSU Pro Day.

507
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Speaker 10: He's going to be probably five to ten pounds heavier

508
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Speaker 10: because he's been eating pasta and Big Max for the

509
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Speaker 10: last something and a half.

510
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Speaker 4: And uh, you know J J. McCarthy just did the

511
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Speaker 4: same thing.

512
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Speaker 3: So you know J J.

513
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Speaker 10: McCarthy came in at two nineteen, which is way bigger

514
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Speaker 10: than what he was at Michigan. So it's it's there.

515
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Speaker 10: Everybody does it.

516
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Speaker 2: Right, and they and they were all gushing over them.

517
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Speaker 2: Oh than people thought.

518
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Speaker 3: Good weight, it's good week for him, That's what they

519
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Speaker 3: were like. This why I sort of get frustrated and

520
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 3: I take it to the extreme. I agree, But so

521
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: Evan's right, they artificially inflate the numbers all across the board.

522
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Speaker 3: How about that?

523
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Speaker 8: Was it?

524
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Speaker 4: Roma Doon say that did the three cone shuttle until

525
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Speaker 4: the way you want it?

526
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Speaker 8: Like?

527
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Speaker 4: So that's what?

528
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Like, so we're just gonna keep testing until we

529
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Speaker 3: get the time that we want.

530
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Speaker 2: The coverage of that ye like day.

531
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Speaker 10: C Dale's was like, we've never seen this, Okay, just

532
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Speaker 10: for the record, and I love this isn't for the record.

533
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Speaker 10: The number that they use is the one that he

534
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Speaker 10: did the first time. They're not they're not giving him

535
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Speaker 10: the last I.

536
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Speaker 3: Understand that, but but the reaction of him doing it

537
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Speaker 3: over what do you think people are going to remember,

538
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Speaker 3: like the actual number or the like no effort exactly exactly.

539
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Speaker 6: Some of that stuff, though, is crossover for me that

540
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Speaker 6: it's not the Caleb Williams cry. It's that it feels

541
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Speaker 6: like some of this stuff is performative at this time

542
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Speaker 6: and you're you know, you're trying to send a message,

543
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Speaker 6: you're not really being genuine and you're more about all

544
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Speaker 6: eyes on me. What do they think?

545
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Speaker 2: You know?

546
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Speaker 6: Those kind of I mean I even. I mean, I

547
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Speaker 6: thought the same thing kind of with Caleb Williams, would

548
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Speaker 6: like he stayed until the very end. He was given

549
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Speaker 6: everybody a high five afterwards. I'm like, that's performative.

550
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Speaker 4: I think it is performative. But I will say this

551
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Speaker 4: and I agree.

552
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Speaker 3: I think one of you two, I think it was

553
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Speaker 3: Evan that said, you're not really concerned as much about

554
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Speaker 3: what they do with the podium, and I would largely

555
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Speaker 3: agree with that. But I do think those three quarterbacks,

556
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Speaker 3: how they came across was important, because quarterbacks different. It

557
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Speaker 3: just is you're the CEO of the team and you

558
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Speaker 3: need to come across, well, you need to present, to

559
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Speaker 3: use the the you know the vernacular today, Oh he presented,

560
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Speaker 3: presented whatever. But I think I just all three of

561
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Speaker 3: those guys. I thought all three of those guys did.

562
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Speaker 3: I thought they were really impressive. I thought all three

563
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Speaker 3: came across very.

564
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Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think of Caleb

565
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Speaker 2: Williams saying I don't care who drafts me as long

566
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Speaker 2: as they go first.

567
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Speaker 8: I don't know.

568
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Speaker 10: I just I really feel like the Caleb Williams disc

569
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 10: ors has gotten out of control where the poor kid

570
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Speaker 10: cannot do anything correct, like whether oh he's now it's

571
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Speaker 10: performative not to pick on you dues, but like now

572
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 10: it's performative that he's really good and that, and now

573
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Speaker 10: you know at the podium like he said, you know

574
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Speaker 10: that he wasn't good and this and that, and it's

575
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Speaker 10: just like, no matter what he does, it's wrong. It

576
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Speaker 10: all because he went because he cried after one game.

577
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Speaker 3: Guy whose teammates hate him. That little back and forth

578
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Speaker 3: he had with Jerry Rice's son is a great braid.

579
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Speaker 3: That back and forth was funny, Like that didn't strike

580
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Speaker 3: me as a guy whose teammates didn't.

581
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Speaker 6: I'm not one hundred percent sure. Brendan Rice realized that

582
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 6: the Patriots had a new head coach. Somebody asked him

583
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Speaker 6: about the Patriots, and he went right and it's like,

584
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Speaker 6: oh man, Bill Belichick like just started going right into him.

585
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Speaker 6: I was like, a buddy, I think.

586
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Speaker 3: He missed some news.

587
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Speaker 10: So Caleb Williams went to high school with olo fashion.

588
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 10: Now it was fashion now by.

589
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Speaker 3: The way he then, we definitely cannot take him because

590
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Speaker 3: that it will take me so long to relearn fashion fashion.

591
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Speaker 2: What I want to call him. Anyways, that's funny.

592
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure James Franklins called him for sho.

593
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Speaker 3: Fashion now a dayless topics.

594
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Speaker 2: Like it's fashion now we care itea Joe Joe although

595
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Speaker 2: it was funny, mean it was it's all al Joe alternative.

596
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Speaker 6: He We've like sitting there and like he looks like

597
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Speaker 6: a big baby, and like usually that's an insult, don't

598
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Speaker 6: be such a big baby. Like, but he just looks

599
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Speaker 6: like a big baby, you know, Like like.

600
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Speaker 3: He just was fun to get to the point where

601
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Speaker 3: they look like kid the.

602
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Speaker 2: Tool control a delete.

603
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Speaker 10: I think that was six nine My biggest takeaway about

604
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Speaker 10: a lot of these guys, and like why I stand

605
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Speaker 10: up for Caleb. He's twenty years old, he's a kid

606
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Speaker 10: like he he it's gonna take some time for him

607
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Speaker 10: to mature. Like, yes, I thought in a lot of

608
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Speaker 10: ways he's a little bit immature.

609
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Speaker 3: It doesn't it doesn't mean that you agree with everything

610
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 3: he's done along the way. I just they're not deal

611
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Speaker 3: breakers for me the way that some people.

612
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Speaker 10: I just think some people forget that we're talking about

613
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Speaker 10: kids that are graduating or our juniors in college. And

614
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Speaker 10: you know, Jael was a perfect example. He's he's massive,

615
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 10: he's six eight three and twenty pounds, but then you

616
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Speaker 10: look at his face and he looks like he's sixteen,

617
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 10: you know, and then you remind yourself, like, all right, my.

618
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Speaker 6: Dad and I could see where my size was going,

619
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Speaker 6: so I was sort of tight end. I knew I

620
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Speaker 6: was going to tackle though.

621
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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

622
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Speaker 3: I mean, he was, He's a special I.

623
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Speaker 11: Did see though.

624
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Speaker 6: It was kind of an interesting number this and this

625
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Speaker 6: might be wrong, but I saw it. They said Cable

626
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Speaker 6: has made ten million dollars last year, a million, which

627
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Speaker 6: just you know, we talked about it.

628
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Speaker 4: It's a different lot of those things are grossly inaced.

629
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's possible, but I mean, but for.

630
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Speaker 3: Him, it's probably not because he didn't have national in LA.

631
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Speaker 7: Because I think coach primeson, I think he's at three

632
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Speaker 7: or four millions.

633
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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, he's driving around in like lamborghine.

634
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Speaker 11: Is just a different world.

635
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 6: Now, it's a different world. These are these kids coming

636
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Speaker 6: out have a whole different perspective on trying to become

637
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Speaker 6: a professional because they already kind of are professionals. They've

638
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Speaker 6: already kind of made it. They're not doing this to

639
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 6: like buy a house for their mom anymore, like their

640
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Speaker 6: mom was already like living in the Caribbean, you know,

641
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 6: like it's it's it's just a different motivation. It's a

642
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 6: whole different thing. And I just I wonder how, you know,

643
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 6: coaches are going to adjust to this to try to,

644
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 6: you know, motivate these players.

645
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 3: To leave the college games and go to the pros.

646
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 10: Yeah right, but I was, you know, we're chatting with people,

647
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 10: and a lot of people. I'm a big NBA fan,

648
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 10: as you all know. It feels like these guys are

649
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 10: becoming more and more like the NBA guys, where a

650
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 10: lot of it is going to be about their branding

651
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 10: and their image and their likeness and all that kind

652
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 10: of stuff, and talking to the guys at the podiums

653
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 10: and stuff. You know, some of these quarterbacks, receivers, it

654
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 10: is very Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown, Like when you listen

655
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 10: to their press conferences, it's it's very similar. And I

656
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 10: don't We're gonna have to get used to that, I know,

657
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 10: but it's not going to be the same thing.

658
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Speaker 2: I worry about it because football is a different game

659
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: than basketball. Man, you need everybody on the same page.

660
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: It's such more of a team sport. You know, one

661
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Speaker 2: or two guys can't carry you the way they can

662
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: in basketball. You gotta have the support of the teammates

663
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: and you know, you have to be on the same page.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's like, you know, for all these kids

665
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 6: that are making millions of dollars, and I'm sure these

666
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 6: other guys are too, but there are still those like

667
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 6: these guys are are tough football dudes who look old

668
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 6: school football still still have that joke about the Alabama

669
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 6: guys like they're all the same, Like they are all

670
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 6: the same. It could be Dante high Tower right through

671
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 6: any of the guys of the combine, right down to

672
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Speaker 6: Will Rekord, the kicker who's like, I mean, he looks

673
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 6: like he's like five eight white dude, and the same

674
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 6: thing like that, just like merciless stare right through you

675
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 6: of like.

676
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 8: Through your soul.

677
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 11: I know.

678
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Speaker 6: It's it's so funny.

679
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Speaker 3: Every single Alabama guy.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, they are all exactly the same. And as

681
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 6: I said to Evan, I'm like, did they get them

682
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 6: that way or do they make them they're sabots?

683
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

684
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, no longer though, no, no longer they I mean

685
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 6: they even some of the other players, I forget one

686
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 6: of them was I forget who was, but was even

687
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 6: talking about Saban and just what an impact he had

688
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 6: on the game, and you know saying, I think he's

689
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 6: just saying like, like, may name the National Championship Trophy

690
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 6: after Nick Saban. So there was there was a little

691
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 6: of that going around too.

692
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 2: So going back to the quarterbacks, I heard somebody say that,

693
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: you know, they would be happy with any one of

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Speaker 2: these three at number three at the third pick. Do

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Speaker 2: you guys agree like this? Any Okay? Really?

696
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: Yes?

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00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 8: Yeah?

698
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think it's the move.

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00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: It's the move. So there's no guy that if he's

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00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: at three saying, you know what, we got a trade there.

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00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 6: No, I think these guys are all talented, and they're

702
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 6: all worth missing on. They're all worth taking a big

703
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 6: swing and a big strikeout on, and and you know

704
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 6: that that's just how the cookie crumbles. But I could

705
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 6: get excited about any single one of them, and I

706
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 6: think the move right now to me get that quarterback

707
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 6: and then get a tackle. Somehow, find a way to

708
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 6: get one of these tackles before they're all gone, because

709
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 6: they are going to go quick.

710
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: And you think there's plenty of receivers that you can

711
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: get them in round three.

712
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Speaker 6: Well, there always are, And I mean, I think if

713
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Speaker 6: that is the route that everybody I mean, I just

714
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 6: I think, like knowledgeable Patriot fans that kind of see

715
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 6: the big you know, the forest for the trees, is

716
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 6: that the right way to say? Yeah, we all kind

717
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 6: of feel the same way of Look, let's not go

718
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 6: get a Baker Mayfield. Let's get you know, a guy

719
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Speaker 6: who can stand the.

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Speaker 2: Guys with that, like any one of these three, you'd

721
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: be happy with.

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723
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Speaker 6: Let's go places.

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Speaker 11: Well done, professional.

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Speaker 3: I really thought that you had something Toyota. Okay, I

731
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Speaker 3: thought we had.

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Speaker 6: Just texted me and she said, so, Evan.

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Speaker 4: You go to Frids.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd be happy with all three of these quarterbacks,

736
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Speaker 10: would I I would like more information about how they

737
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 10: were planning on using Jaden Daniels, but that's not going

738
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Speaker 10: to happen. So I'm gonna have to just trust them

739
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 10: on it, I guess. But yeah, in terms of talent

740
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Speaker 10: and and what they bring to the table, they're all

741
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Speaker 10: worthy of the pick. I just I have my preferences

742
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Speaker 10: based off of the coaching staff that they put together.

743
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Speaker 6: I just feel too faed. There's always receivers, and there's

744
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 6: receivers through three rounds this year that you know can

745
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 6: come in. I don't know how, you know, there's reports

746
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 6: that they're offering Kendrick Bourne, Like it just seems like

747
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 6: the right move to me, like to surround a rookie

748
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 6: quarterback and a rookie tackle with some veteran weapons, and

749
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Speaker 6: we'll throw some stuff at the wall in the third

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Speaker 6: and fourth round. We don't need to overextend. This is

751
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 6: a very special tackle class, it seems like, So try

752
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 6: to get in it, you know. And I'd be fine

753
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 6: trading up from the second round into that low first

754
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Speaker 6: I mean, Evan, I'll let Evan pronounce Kingsley's last name,

755
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 6: the guy he took in.

756
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Speaker 11: His mock draft.

757
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Speaker 6: But but you know, there's some real intriguing guys that

758
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Speaker 6: I just you know, you get the quarterback, you get

759
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Speaker 6: the tackle, and we'll start to put the weapons around

760
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Speaker 6: him as we can, but maybe start with some veteran weapons,

761
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Speaker 6: which it feels to some extent is what they tried

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Speaker 6: to do with Mac. And I didn't hate that of

763
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 6: you know, hey, I we're gonna have a rookie. We

764
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 6: can't really have a rookie quarterback and a rookie receiver

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Speaker 6: that we're really trying to rely on. So to me,

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Speaker 6: the movie is quarterback Tackle and figure what was Wolf.

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Speaker 2: That said, you know, we want to weaponize our offense?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do you read anything into that more than just doesn't

770
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: every team want to? Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I mean I think, you know, Girodd kind of piggybacked

772
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Speaker 10: off that and said that they need somebody that defenses

773
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Speaker 10: have to plan for that they have to double team

774
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Speaker 10: or whatever, and I I agree with that. I just

775
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Speaker 10: think with this draft board, the position that's going to

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Speaker 10: fall into your lap and on you know, the third

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Speaker 10: or fourth round, like Dudu is talking about his receiver,

778
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 10: that's the spot where there's going to be a surplus.

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00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 10: And there are gonna be guys that are probably second

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Speaker 10: round picks other years that are gonna end up being

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Speaker 10: third round picks this year just because of how many

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Speaker 10: receivers there are so.

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Speaker 6: I'm not to interrupt you, sorry, but we were just saying, like,

784
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Speaker 6: where were the last year's receivers rank with this group,

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Speaker 6: like the Jackson Smith and Jigbas of the world, Like

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Speaker 6: like they they would be down the list with the

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Speaker 6: number of guys that that are out there this year.

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Speaker 6: But and it just it seems like every year, I mean,

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Speaker 6: going back, you know when Paul and I wrote the comments,

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Speaker 6: every year there's there's solid guys if you're smart and

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Speaker 6: you hit on one, I mean, always a deep position.

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Speaker 4: But it seems like it's top heavy and deep. This year.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say this year, there there's a good

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Speaker 10: chance that seven or eight go in the first round.

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Speaker 6: We were saying, like the twenty picks are like, I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's probably ridiculous to say twenty, but like twenty picks

797
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Speaker 6: on receivers and tackles in the first round. I mean,

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Speaker 6: that's too much, but it's not too crazy.

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Speaker 2: So it sounds like there's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 2: good defensive value later because of all this rush on offense.

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Speaker 4: Well it's a quarter, it's not good. It's a good

802
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 4: class for the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Good defensive place.

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Speaker 4: There's there's some edge guys.

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Speaker 10: There's some edge guys in some corners that are good players.

806
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 10: But this is a quarterback, tackle, receiver draft.

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Speaker 2: And we mentioned corner. We should mention that the Patriots

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Speaker 2: released J C. Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I also report that maybe they'd opened him coming

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Speaker 6: back once he works his life out, But I don't

812
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Speaker 6: know about that. I saw somebody write that.

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Speaker 3: I did not read that, and I do not put

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Speaker 3: much stock in that. No, And I was surprised.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think I think jirob was asked about

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Speaker 6: it maybe the first day like that, like the day

817
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Speaker 6: before he was released, and you know, he's still working

818
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Speaker 6: through close to close to the vest. But I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 6: I the least surprising thing I've seen with his cap

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Speaker 6: hit and well, I I.

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Speaker 2: Really think, you know, we're talking about receiver and tackle

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Speaker 2: and quarterback. If you go back to last year, I

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Speaker 2: think they did a masterful or Bill Belichick and and

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Speaker 2: and Steve and dradd did a masterful job mixing and

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Speaker 2: matching and getting by with that second with the cornerback situation,

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Speaker 2: especially after Gonzales has gone, because I don't think there

827
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Speaker 2: was a lot of really good talent back there.

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Speaker 6: And it's a free agency.

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Speaker 2: That's the case right now, we're assuming Gonzo is going

830
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Speaker 2: to be back, but beyond that, I think they're pretty

831
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Speaker 2: thin at corner Gilmore.

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Speaker 6: I mean, i'd bring Gilmour back. I mean, Evan calls

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Speaker 6: it the the I mean, I think Jonathan Jones is

834
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Speaker 6: okay in there. I just think, you know, you want

835
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Speaker 6: to have some dub. It's not it's the it's the

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Speaker 6: Jason mccordy role, you know, that third.

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Speaker 10: Guy, the third guy that a true boundary corner that

838
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Speaker 10: can be the third guy in.

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Speaker 2: I know, I like Jonathan Jones, but I'd love to

840
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Speaker 2: upgrade there and have him at our third That's that's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be hard to do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna say, what do you think about

843
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 7: upgrading Miles like Miles Bryant or I mean, yeah, I

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Speaker 7: love Marcus Jones.

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Speaker 3: But I think just smaller.

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Speaker 10: I just think Miles Bryant, you know, Miles Bryan is

847
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 10: really is the nickel safety. You know, he plays on

848
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Speaker 10: the inside and kind of how Yeah, so Jonathan Jones

849
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Speaker 10: can play everywhere, like he's proven that, and I think,

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Speaker 10: you know, he makes a really good tandem with Christian

851
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Speaker 10: Gonzalez because Gonzalez got the size got the long speed

852
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Speaker 10: and Jonathan Jones can cover the tiree kills of the world.

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing about Jones is, like you said,

854
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: he's versatile, Yeah, and I want to keep him that way.

855
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: I want to keep him as my utility corner and

856
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Speaker 2: get another man on man guy.

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Speaker 10: They could use another boundary corner that can play seventy

858
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 10: snaps on the perimeter. Absolutely, but you know, Duce was

859
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 10: kind of going there. I think in free agency there

860
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 10: might be a couple of options in like the the

861
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 10: middle tier free agents that they could go because it's

862
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Speaker 10: just when you add corner into like a top one

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Speaker 10: hundred need for this team, and they only have three

864
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 10: top one hundred picks, have all these needs on offense,

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Speaker 10: it's hard to just find the picks to make all

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Speaker 10: these things happen.

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Speaker 6: So I think like giving Gilmour some time with with

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Speaker 6: with with Gonzalez is kind of appealing to me too.

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Speaker 3: I just think that that's going to be ridiculously hard

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Speaker 3: to Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Where is Gilmore these days? In terms of Dallas.

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Speaker 3: He's still a very good player.

873
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 10: But you think, so, oh yeah, he's still a starter.

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00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: He's a really good player. I mean a lot of

875
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: people in Dallas think he was the better cornerback, even

876
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: though the other guy had all the picks. The pick

877
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Speaker 3: sixes right, more consistent for sure, But I just feel

878
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Speaker 3: like you'd have to grossly overpay him to get him.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, i'm you know.

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Speaker 3: We we we taped a free agency thing and Evan

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Speaker 3: brought up Tyron Smith as a bridge tackle. We talked

882
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Speaker 3: about bridge quarterbacks and I think that sounds great in theory,

883
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Speaker 3: but what's in it for him? Like, why do I

884
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: want to sign a bridge deal? You're gonna have to

885
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: to play for a four and thirteen team? Yeah, And

886
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: I was sure, if you want to give me twenty

887
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: five million or something. And I think that that's kind of.

888
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: Similar to Gilmore. I think Gilmore will have options.

889
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: He's not going to get a five year, one hundred

890
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Speaker 3: and twenty million dollar con He's not going to get

891
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: Lugerius Snead money if Sneed didn't get franchised. But he's

892
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: going to get money, he's going to have options.

893
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Speaker 2: Remember how I was when the Patriots signed John Lynch. Yeah,

894
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 2: that's how I would be if they signed Tyron Smith.

895
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Speaker 2: Even though I think.

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Speaker 4: Tyron Smith can still play that even.

897
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 2: Though, well, you're always hurt.

898
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: He is always he is always hurt, but he but

899
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Speaker 3: he can play.

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Speaker 4: John Lynch was.

901
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Speaker 2: I know, but I was always a big John Lynch fan.

902
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: And when he became a Patriot, I was like, oh

903
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: my god, I can't believe this guy that I've always

904
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: liked is a Patriot. It would be the same thing

905
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: with Tyron Smith, Like just to think of him in

906
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: a Patriot uniform blows my mind.

907
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 10: Tyron first battle, to make it first first ballot, Hall

908
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 10: of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I know people will make fun of me, but

910
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: when I watched the Cowboys, like, there'll be plays where

911
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: I just watch him because he's so good at his crew, because.

912
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 4: You're just so sophisticated.

913
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: He's an offensive off his arms like this. I don't

914
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: even watch my son.

915
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 2: His armleng is unbelievable. He's got the huge pause and

916
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: when he just gets on you, it's over.

917
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 8: That was the joke.

918
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: It's just it's just over.

919
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean my preferences, I've said it many times.

920
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 6: Is what they did in twenty one. I know, you

921
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 6: know there were flaws WITHO free agency class, but it's

922
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Speaker 6: you know, get the guys coming off of first contract

923
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 6: and these are long term guys. And you know, I

924
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 6: think the thing with Bill though, that that you always

925
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 6: didn't know going into free agencies. He always had a

926
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Speaker 6: soft spot for really really good players at the end

927
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Speaker 6: of the line and giving them a chance, and those

928
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 6: kind of guys kind of qualify for that. Under Bill,

929
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Speaker 6: I think you might be a little bit more likely

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Speaker 6: to see him work something out with Tyron Smith or Gilmore.

931
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Speaker 4: But I also think that they Bill would have a

932
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Speaker 4: hard time doing that.

933
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Speaker 6: Now because there's the money that he'd have to give him.

934
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Speaker 4: There's not.

935
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Speaker 3: What's the only thing that you can offer is more

936
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 3: money than everybody else. And that's dangerous, right is no

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Speaker 3: you want to I mean you can't say, you know,

938
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Speaker 3: come here and you have a chance to win a

939
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: Super Bowl? Yeah right, you don't have Brady, you don't

940
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: have an offense. There's just not a lot of tackles

941
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: and you went four and thirteen. There's not a lot

942
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: of tackles in this free agent class that excite you.

943
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: I mean, Jonah Williams would be.

944
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Speaker 2: Brown is number two, right, he's up there.

945
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't think you know, I wouldn't

946
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Speaker 3: have him ahead of you.

947
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Speaker 4: The one of those two.

948
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Speaker 10: No, I think I think Joonah Williams is an average

949
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 10: right tackle, which would be better than what they've had

950
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 10: at that spot. So i'd be you know, i'd call certainly.

951
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Speaker 3: That's why I think Juice is right. The second pick

952
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: should be a tackle.

953
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Speaker 6: It's just it's just watching the parade go. That's who's

954
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 6: you know, is anybody left by the time they get

955
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 6: to their actual.

956
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 4: For the secondary. That's why Sneid was the guy.

957
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: You know, I sort of made the comment, you have

958
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: all this cap money, I'm not interested in spreading that

959
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: around to six or seven different guys. I want to

960
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: identify a couple, and Snead was one that I sort

961
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: of earmarked.

962
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, I.

963
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: You know, you could still make a trade. It sounds

964
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: like that Kansas City is trying to do right by him.

965
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 3: They want to resign him. They franchised him, but gave

966
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: them permission to speak to other teams. So maybe there's

967
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: a deal to be worked out there. But that's gonna

968
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 3: cost you a lot of money. Yeah, and and picks

969
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: if you have to trade for them.

970
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I just generally speaking, and I don't know

972
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 6: how it's going to play out. But I would say,

973
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 6: and maybe even a week from today right now on

974
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 6: the show, like I'm expecting that we're gonna have some

975
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 6: hype about the Patriots defense, just some moves that they're

976
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 6: gonna make. They're gonna add some real talent, some real

977
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 6: guys that you know, you feel like can make impacts

978
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 6: on the defense. Of course, everybody wants offense, but I

979
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 6: just think generally speaking, it makes the most sense to

980
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 6: grab those big name players. Like Paul said, you don't

981
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 6: go crazy with twelve different guys playing them all sixty percent. Yeah,

982
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 6: you know, grab a couple and pay them full and

983
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 6: you know, really insert them into the defense and elevate

984
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 6: that defense to another level. So you might have some

985
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 6: breathing room with.

986
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Speaker 2: The franchise tag deadlines today at four right, any chance

987
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: that they do. And when you or Duggar, I.

988
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 6: Don't think so. I mean, I I think they're gonna

989
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 6: let those guys. You see what's out there, and you know,

990
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 6: my hope is that we can come to set a

991
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 6: precedent here of resigning those guys too nice long term

992
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 6: deals and all of a sudden, I mean, how long

993
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 6: has it been. I mean, can you guys even say,

994
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 6: off the top of your head the last time they

995
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 6: resigned somebody long term and you're like, nice, we've got

996
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 6: a long term building block. Like for Mike on Winu

997
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 6: and Kyle Duger certainly both have you know, some warts,

998
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 6: but I think they're both, you know, at this point

999
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 6: worth it with this cap. You know, they're not hamstrung

1000
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 6: for money or anything like that. I just think, get

1001
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 6: off this train of drafting guys they play four years,

1002
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 6: then they leave, and you know, just show the locker

1003
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 6: room guys that stay here and play. We're gonna we're

1004
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 6: gonna reward those.

1005
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: It's just where where do you Where are you playing

1006
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 4: big Mic?

1007
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 3: Because yeah, right guard, I think you have to play.

1008
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 10: Him at guard and if you're gonna pay him fifteen

1009
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 10: million dollars when you have City so who's was pretty

1010
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 10: good last year as a rookie and I think is

1011
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 10: serviceable functional guard. I don't know about cole Strange. You know,

1012
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 10: maybe it's City so versus Cole Strange for left guard

1013
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 10: maybe and on one who kicks inside the right guard

1014
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 10: he's not a tackle in this so, but.

1015
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Speaker 6: I think that the ability to at least play there

1016
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 6: in a pinch is worth something invaluable and that's you know,

1017
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 6: part of what we love about Michael Wyu. That's who

1018
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 6: he is, and he's a maler and I mean, I

1019
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 6: just I think the only question really is, and I'll

1020
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 6: let you kind of jump on that, Evan, is you

1021
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 6: know what Alex van Pelt wants to do with the

1022
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 6: wide zone? How much do we like Michael and Whenu

1023
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 6: at right guard? And you know, is it possible that

1024
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 6: cold Strange might even be the better fit for that

1025
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 6: kind of offense.

1026
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 10: I mean, it's definitely better for him to play guard

1027
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 10: in it because you get those combination blocks on the

1028
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 10: inside and he's going to get on a double team

1029
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 10: and things like that. But if he's asked to block

1030
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 10: out on the perimeter at tackle, it's just not his game.

1031
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's.

1032
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: Almost like misusing him, you know.

1033
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 10: And so I just I that's what I worry about,

1034
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 10: is they're going to pay him this money to do

1035
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 10: all the things that you said, to send a message

1036
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,680
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1037
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,840
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1038
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 10: whatever Elliott Wolf called him. But then he's going to

1039
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 10: be kind of playing in a system that doesn't fit him.

1040
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, and only they know that.

1041
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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Chris and Alex again and guys, as usual,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start off with some trivia. So question one,

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Speaker 1: who scored against the Patriots? Against the Patriots and Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl thirty six and thirty eight? All right? Question two?

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Speaker 1: ties in the last question because on Twitter a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, there was a question is if you

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Speaker 1: could set your starting eleven with animals, what would it be?

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00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: And so like dads were taking their kids magnets and

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00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: putting them on fridges and being like, oh, our right

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00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: back is going to be a cheetah and our striker

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Speaker 1: is going to be a line And then people would

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00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: get really into it. And so I posed this question

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00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: to Chris over here, because I said, what would you

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00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: build out for your starting eleven for football? At Chris?

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00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: Did you do offense? Only to you offensive?

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00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: De think?

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00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 14: I think This project took me more than ten hours

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00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 14: to complete because I was I was thinking about this.

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00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 8: I had the notes in.

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00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: Front of me.

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Speaker 1: Are we doing offense? Offense? All right? Okay, perfect, let's

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00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: hear it all right?

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00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 8: So which I started right to left? What do you think?

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00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: How are your heart desires?

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00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 8: I'll start.

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00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 14: I'm gonna start with all right, I'll start right here

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00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 14: we go, so on the right. You know that outside

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00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 14: wide receiver. I have a cheetah.

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Speaker 8: All right, you need the speed, you need the burner?

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00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 8: Did you down? Feel sure?

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00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 14: Exactly exactly who I was thinking at the tight end

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00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 14: at the y.

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Speaker 8: You got a giraffe. All right, now hear me out

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00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 8: now let me just jump in.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to fight this.

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00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 8: No, that's okay.

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Speaker 14: I put the giraffe at the why and I'm doing

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00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 14: that because you have somebody kind of bulky right big tall,

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00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 14: not that quick, can go up and get it like

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00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 14: you can throw it up to him when you need it,

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00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 14: kind of a gronk esque stature.

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00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: All right, my brother's getting folded when he runs across

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Speaker 1: the line.

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00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 8: Maybe, but guess what if he goes up and brings

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00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 8: it down. That's all you need.

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00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: You need, you yards and he's not playing another snap right,

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00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: keep going, keep go ahead?

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00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 8: Second? All right? Uh well, actually I go to the

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00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 8: slot receiver.

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00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 14: I have a squirrel and now this is me show edelmanirrel.

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00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: Just a squirrel.

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00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 14: It can be whatever you want, you know, yeah, of course,

1144
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 14: and squirrels quick, shifty, you know, just able to move around,

1145
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 14: quick out you know whatever you need to throw it

1146
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 14: to throw it to him whatever.

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00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 8: On the outside. We got the kangaroo, the last receiver.

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00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 14: We have the kangaroo, and I have this one and

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00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 14: again thinking a tall, lanky has ups go and get

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00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 14: the ball, high point of ball, kind of like the giraffe,

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00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 14: but a little bit quicker, you know, something like that.

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00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 14: And then quarterback has to be the lion. Just the

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00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 14: king of king of the offense runs a show.

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00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: Don't the mindset?

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00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: It's the mindset.

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00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 14: I talked to Deuce about this earlier and he said

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00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 14: the same exact thing. I said, why does that matter? Anyways?

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Speaker 14: Running back is a tiger. You have the speed, you

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00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 14: have the quickness, you have the aggressiveness, you have the strength,

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00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 14: all of it's there. So the two cat backfield huge huge,

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Speaker 14: the lion at you and tiger is a running back.

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Speaker 14: My offensive line. Now this is where it gets interesting.

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00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 14: You try to go big, but you also want to

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00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 14: go a little bit quick. So I have a righty quarterback. Okay,

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Speaker 14: my line is right, he throws the ball at his

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00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 14: right hand. My left tackle is a bison, kind of quick, still,

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00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 14: kind of big, strong, protect your left side, your blind side.

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00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 14: Left guard elephant, that's the one, not typically the point guard.

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Speaker 1: You're putting the big boys up front.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, the elephant's left guard. Center is a hippo. I mean,

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00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 14: you can't go wrong with the hippo at center.

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Speaker 8: You just can't.

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Speaker 14: Right guard grizzly bear. That can be your polling guard

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Speaker 14: if you really want to be flip flop them whatever

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Speaker 14: you need. And on the right tackle you got the

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Speaker 14: rhino that stele person kind of keep you in the pocket,

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Speaker 14: protect you at all costs.

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Speaker 8: That's mile leven on the field.

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Speaker 1: On offense, you gotta get rid of the draft.

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Speaker 15: I would get rid of the draft my tight end.

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Speaker 15: So this is I would have the kangaroo be the

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00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 15: tight end because if you need the kangaroo to block,

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00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 15: he can be like at the line. He's thick enough

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00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 15: he can use his feet to kick people and kind

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00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 15: of push him back that way, if he needs to

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00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 15: go up for the ball, he can go up for

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00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 15: the ball. I would have just to add to that too,

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00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 15: a bull or some sort of animal like that, and

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Speaker 15: the backfield as.

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Speaker 11: A running back.

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00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, change the running back.

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Speaker 15: And uh, I think we're like underrating monkeys.

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00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 2: Yeah for the quarterback, like they can legit.

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Speaker 1: Do you put the gorilla in there too?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 8: No, no, see I don't.

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Speaker 1: Again a moose on the offense.

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00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, getting the antler some inaction.

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Speaker 8: That's I like the moose. The moos. I was thinking big.

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Speaker 14: I'm thinking big bears are quick, especially.

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Speaker 1: I think you got to move that.

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Speaker 10: The the hippo, how, I don't know your hippos, your center.

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Speaker 1: And a squirrel, Like you get a falcon in there?

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Speaker 3: What's the falcon to do more than a squirrel?

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Speaker 15: Okay, hear me out, you upgrade, you let the squirrel walk.

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Speaker 15: You sign a leaping lemur.

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Speaker 1: I think you need to, which I've seen, I've seen

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Speaker 1: you don't shut your mouth. We'll tell you about it later.

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Speaker 1: The the I think, having having seen, having seen this

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Speaker 1: animal close, it's the scariest thing I've ever seen. You

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Speaker 1: gotta throw the hyaena in there to watch swap the

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Speaker 1: squirrel at the hyena. All right, those things are scary,

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00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: those things. Those things can do some damage.

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Speaker 8: But then whenever they face any adversity, they just run away.

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00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: So you know it's fine, they're fast. I don't know,

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00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: all right, all right, Chris, you know, I honestly, the

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00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: only thing I truly disagree with is a draft. Things

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00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: getting folded. You don't know that though, I do know.

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00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 8: That, alright. I was scrolling on.

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00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 15: That.

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00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: Something doesn't have to be perfect.

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00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 8: It doesn't have to be perfect the draft.

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Speaker 1: Like a blue guy.

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00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is.

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00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 14: A great, great, great mental, amazing character, exactly. Mike is

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00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 14: a great example just to get something done.

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Speaker 1: Miami to Kiki.

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00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 14: Sure here, that's what Yeah, that's what I was thinking

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00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 14: about it. But the Giraft, go up, get it, bring

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00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 14: it down. He has wheels. You see him in the

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00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 14: open field.

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00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 8: He's he's cooking Giraft.

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Speaker 2: Try to walk.

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Speaker 8: Are we working with the baby draft? It's a regular draft,

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Speaker 8: Bryan's a regular draft. Someone's yeah, I don't know. I'm

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00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 8: just saying I've scrolling on. TikTok.

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00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 14: There's a lion chasing this giraffe and Jess, guess who

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00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 14: got away draft.

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00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: All right, how about zebra.

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00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 8: Vulnerable vulnerable bait for everything?

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00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I think we've reached our point. This one,

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00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: this one might make it onto the show, this might

1243
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: continue on to the show. So I don't know, guys,

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00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: thank you for joining send your answers in for trivia.

1245
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: As I've always said, we might need to get some

1246
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: new shirts. It's just we're running low, so we'll see.

1247
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 8: You're the keeper of the shirt.

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00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keeper shirts. I'm gonna want some hoodies. But hey,

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00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: that's that's a different topic. All right, guys, thanks for

1250
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: drawing us always, and let's get back to Patriots Unfiltered.

1251
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 5: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, replacements

1252
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 5: were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1253
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 5: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

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00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 5: now it's next for residential delivery only.

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00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

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00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 3: History Ago I used.

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00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: To build a team and I'm sorry, like I don't

1258
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: know you.

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00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 3: I got a little hot, okay.

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00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 6: Mike, Well it's like you're gonna the one example from

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00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 6: the draft is justin Warwick when we missed on a

1262
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 6: fifth round kicker, Like you kidding? Me, you're gonna ignore

1263
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 6: Michael and when you Kyle Duggart, like the guys that

1264
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 6: have actually played and look good, but you're concerned that

1265
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 6: they missed on a kicker when they brought in a

1266
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 6: guy who's thirty seven years old and has not missed

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00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 6: the kick since September.

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00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 3: Like, come on, like be realistic.

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00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 6: I get what you're trying to say about like the draft,

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00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 6: but like be reasonable about the picks that they did

1271
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 6: have training in the wrong direction. Well, guess what, he

1272
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 6: drafted some good players this year too. When those guys

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00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 6: are draft for a one.

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00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 3: Quick second, you guys can continue this.

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00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: Sure.

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00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 4: I'm just so disappointed in myself. It took a year

1277
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 4: and a half for that, and I wasn't involved like that.

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00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 4: I think I think I got I'm ashamed of myself.

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00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 2: I'm happy that I want to see.

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00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 3: I'm ashamed of myself that I finally got that out

1281
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: of him and I had nothing to do.

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00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 4: I think we got a new nickname. Hot Mike.

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00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: Hot Mike, Hot Mike.

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00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 11: I like it.

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00:53:52,680 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

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00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 6: Easy to Drink, Easy to Enjoy.

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00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 7: Blood Light, the official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots.

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00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: All Right, there's another read in the can doing great.

1289
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: We also had trivia during halftime, excellent halftime trivia, So

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00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: I'll throw those out there now. The first one was

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00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: who scored against the Patriots in Super Bowl thirty six

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00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: and thirty eight?

1293
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: Rickey Pol?

1294
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: I know Ricky Poll is correct? Kevin or Keith in

1295
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: New River Gorge, West Virginia. Second one was how many

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00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: career receiving yards does TB twelve have?

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00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, he had that one his first year. I

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00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 6: remember the one.

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00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 10: Against the Titans in the regular season.

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Speaker 6: Didn't catch for Eagles Super Bowl.

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00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 4: Thanks, thanks for that.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna say eighteen yards.

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00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: I was gonna say twenty seven.

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00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 10: Oh eight, seven sixty five, the one against the Eagles,

1305
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 10: he ran pretty like after the catch, he ran a

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00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 10: little while with it.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: So what English soccer team does Tom Brady co own?

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00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 8: I didn't even know.

1310
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 6: He sounds like a he's co owned.

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00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: It's soccer team Soccer Arsenal, Birmingham City.

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00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 6: Alex El got that.

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 6: You mentioned Ricky Proll on my on My Growing List

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00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 6: of Things details of the Dynasty doc left out? How

1316
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 6: did they leave out Ricky Proll before Super Bowl thirty six?

1317
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 6: Going tonight. A dynasty is born, right like it writes itself.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, that's my That's that's one of the

1319
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 6: thing on my extensive lists that I will reveal at

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Speaker 6: some point.

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Speaker 2: Well, we should say that we are doing the wrap

1322
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: up podcast this Friday. We'll have another one episode seven

1323
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: and eight, so I can't wait for that.

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00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 6: That'll drop Friday, if it's all right, I'd like to say,

1325
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 6: because I wasn't here when you guys talked about those ones,

1326
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 6: but I thought the Hernandez one was I guess chilling

1327
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 6: is the word. The way it started with just you know,

1328
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 6: the picture of him, you know, which almost I was

1329
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 6: waiting for it to be Matt Smith being the one

1330
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 6: like Aaron, can you give me a little bit, you know,

1331
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 6: like they're going through matter giving his directions. But that

1332
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 6: was just kind of a great way to open it.

1333
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 6: And I actually watched that episode twice coming back, and

1334
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 6: I knew that story too, but but that episode I

1335
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 6: thought was was just was liorally.

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Speaker 2: I think what made it for me were the interviews.

1337
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 7: I mean, Branch, oh, yeah, don't spills too much for

1338
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 7: the ones you were behind?

1339
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 16: Well, yeah, yeah, I agree with frand the three receivers, Lloyd,

1340
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 16: Branch and Welker were all really good, and I did

1341
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 16: think that that was one of the stronger episodes that

1342
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 16: they've they've put together, and there's.

1343
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 6: Some other crime documentaries that really go into details on

1344
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 6: some of the other cases and and some of that

1345
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 6: other stuff. But I thought it was kind of buried

1346
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 6: in there that that they said he was I don't

1347
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 6: know if he was absolved or they said he was

1348
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 6: never really they dropped any kind of investigation or charges

1349
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 6: on that Boston thing.

1350
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 11: Was that what it was?

1351
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it was a technicality when he was in

1352
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 3: prison that he was absolved of, but it was more

1353
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: paperwork than innocence.

1354
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 6: You could just see it in Welker's face too, Like

1355
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 6: you know those guys just I mean, I guess with

1356
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 6: your team mates, you know, you always kind of know

1357
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 6: some people who just aren't on the same wavelength of

1358
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 6: view you You're you're there with them and then you

1359
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 6: go your separate ways at the end of the day

1360
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 6: or the end of the week, and it's like, what's

1361
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 6: that guy going off to get into I I don't

1362
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 6: want to.

1363
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: Know, Right, do not hang out with Checho, Do not

1364
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: with Chico?

1365
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 7: Uh?

1366
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: PATS five hundred is the Ace ticket hutline web radio

1367
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,959
Speaker 2: at Patriots dot com. We've covered a lot, but let's

1368
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: get everyone involved because I'm sure people have things they

1369
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: need to talk about. We'll start with Ryan in New Hampshire.

1370
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: What's up Ryan? Ryan? Oh my god? He was online

1371
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: for for We got to figure out like lobby and

1372
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: who's not? Like Brad's in Ohio?

1373
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 3: What's that's definitely an even gay lobby, like third down.

1374
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: Back Eldred's in North Carolina's Bobby kind of Aldred? Really

1375
00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: he's not here?

1376
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 4: Small something filled the phone lines.

1377
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: Freddy Well and Philam?

1378
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 6: What are you doing with Williams there? I believe it.

1379
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: I'm here, Yeah, finally, how all right? One?

1380
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Speaker 17: First of all, I just want to say first, you know,

1381
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 17: you gotta get their leady I praise first.

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Speaker 8: Good, all right.

1383
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 17: I got a strong take, but Patriots don't feel that.

1384
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 17: I listened to Evan and Jus and even Alex bar two. Gentlemen,

1385
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 17: y'all always say the wide receiver classes deep. So hey,

1386
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 17: I gotta give you some pushback. Some of those receivers

1387
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 17: that's in the second round basically that might have could

1388
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 17: have bet in the second round I don't know they

1389
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 17: moved up to number one. Some of those guys ran

1390
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 17: a four to three to three, uh, four to two

1391
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 17: one and maybe a four to four one. And I

1392
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 17: can name a couple of names like Brian Thomas, so Forth,

1393
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 17: Mitchell from Texas Worthy also from Texas Lab, mccacky, and

1394
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Speaker 17: I think if I'm missing now somebody else.

1395
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 6: So again.

1396
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 17: For us at the third and fourth round, can you

1397
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 17: give me some names please, because we need.

1398
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 4: A whole mock draft on it.

1399
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 10: Actually you can check it out on Patriots dot com.

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00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, there you go.

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00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: I just you know, I'm not gonna try to I'm

1402
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: not going to try to fight for Mike and Evan.

1403
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 3: But but no, no, But like William, you just said

1404
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: like you're pushing back on the fact that they said

1405
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 3: that the wide receiver class is deep, and then you

1406
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: just rattled off about ten guys that are not Marvin Harrison,

1407
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 3: Roma Dunsa and Elik Neighbors, Like, so, isn't that kind

1408
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: of illustrating how deep the class is? Al So, Brian

1409
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: Thomas the first Yeah, okay, I'm not skipping on Marvin

1410
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 17: No, no, no, I'm elite neighbors for women do they I'm

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00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 17: leaving them all for a reason. But they were early.

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00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: No, I know, but they're trying to tell you that

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: they think the wide receiver class is deep. They just

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01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 3: got back from the combine. They're telling you their feeling

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01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: is this is a deep class. You're pushing back against it.

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01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: But you rattled off a lot of guys who were

1418
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 3: impressive at the combine, and I think we're ten or

1419
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 3: twelve deep.

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01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 4: That's that's deep. That's like to me, that's.

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Speaker 3: Illustrating how many good prospects there are in this wide

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Speaker 3: receiver class.

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Speaker 4: I think that Mike and Evan.

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01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 6: Well, all right now, let me let mean I'll throw

1425
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 6: Mari Troy Franklin, Jalen Polk, Malekai Corley, Ricky Purcell, Jermine Burton,

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Speaker 6: Jacob Cowing.

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Speaker 10: So it means I'm almost Donia Smith with all these guys,

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01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 10: and I think I'm going to have eighteen receivers in

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01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 10: the top one hundred eighteen.

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Speaker 4: But how many.

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01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 17: Said the third and fourth round, what's going to be

1432
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 17: there for the faces because they won't be those guys.

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01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 10: Yes, it will one hundred percent. Not all of these

1434
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 10: guys can go in the first fifty picks. William like

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01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 10: somebody like some guys have to fall to sixty eight, Like,

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01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 10: there's not going to be if you have eighteen receivers

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01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 10: that have top one hundred grades, it's not like all

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01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 10: eighteen of them are going to go in the first round.

1439
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 10: So at some point the board is going to have

1440
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 10: to fall, you know, skuys are going to fall down

1441
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 10: the board a little bit. Like for instance, I think

1442
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 10: that you know some of the guys that you mentioned.

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01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 10: I agree eighty Mitchell definitely put himself in the first

1444
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 10: round conversation, I think that's a lock at this point,

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01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 10: he's a first rounder. I'm not sure, Lad, I like

1446
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 10: both of them. I'm not sure me too. I'm not

1447
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 10: sure Lad McConkie is a first rounder. I'm not sure xavier'

1448
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 10: worthy still, i'm not sure is a first rounder because

1449
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 10: of his weight. You know, one hundred and sixty five

1450
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 10: pounds is not very big. I think that you know

1451
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 10: guys like Deuce you're mentioning, like Malchai Corley, Ricky Piersoll,

1452
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 10: Brennan Rice from usc you know Roman Wilson from Michigan.

1453
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 10: I think there's a chance you know guy like Xavier Lguette,

1454
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 10: who's pretty raw and it still really has a long

1455
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 10: way to go. Well, those guys are all guys that

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01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 10: I think are in play for you at sixty eight.

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01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 6: I would just say to William Lake, it's it's I

1458
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 6: think we all agree that quarterback, tackle, receiver. You know,

1459
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Speaker 6: you'd like to really hit those picks out of the

1460
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 6: park this year. And you know, I look at the

1461
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 6: tackle class and it seems kind of special the way

1462
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 6: it is, but it's not like the receiver class. You know,

1463
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 6: once you get past kind of that early second round,

1464
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 6: you're starting to really talk about guys who are a

1465
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 6: little bit more of a projection at tackle. So you know,

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01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 6: you just you can't nail all of them. So that was,

1467
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 6: you know, kind of part of the philosophy too. Otherwise,

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01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 6: like you know, not to say that every year is

1469
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 6: as deep as this receiver class scenes, but generally speaking,

1470
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 6: you know, you kind of always feel like there's always receivers.

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Speaker 6: That's the position everybody loves to play. So you know,

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Speaker 6: that's kind of why I was picking it up the

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Speaker 6: way the way that we were.

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Speaker 17: Okay, so let me do this one last thing. Okay,

1475
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 17: I know we need the quarterback. I know we need

1476
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 17: to check I am which all one hundred percent on that. Okay, yeah,

1477
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 17: but when you come to the wide receiver position, I

1478
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 17: am dany R five because it's not like the face

1479
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 17: to have a good track record draft in or the

1480
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 17: belf and receivers. Okay, yeah, I think we all agree, right, yeah,

1481
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 17: for sure.

1482
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 10: Well the Patriots used to have a good track.

1483
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 17: So yeah, so okay, so they're they're picking somebody in

1484
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 17: a free agency named Noman Brown from the Houston Texas.

1485
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 17: I guess he's the replacement for devont Kate Parker. So

1486
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 17: I'm like, who who's going to be the receiver that

1487
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 17: the defensive court is gonna have to plan for? And

1488
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 17: ain't knja born is We don't know yet.

1489
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 10: I would just say that we don't know, thanks William,

1490
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 10: And just in general, the odds that they're going to

1491
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 10: fill every single hole that this team has in one

1492
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 10: offseason is our slim.

1493
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 8: Now.

1494
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 4: This is like people like, right now, the Red Sox

1495
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 4: are under fire.

1496
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 3: So they've done nothing the whole offseason and people like

1497
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: they had a chance to get this, they could have

1498
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 3: redone the whole rotate. Well, they need to sign like

1499
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 3: one guy. The Patriots like this is a process you

1500
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 3: need to find a receiver before you worry about all

1501
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 3: of the receivers and then all of the tackles and

1502
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 3: the quarterback. If they get a quarterback out of the

1503
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 3: draft at three, and you know a receiver who can

1504
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 3: be part like. The receiver doesn't have to be commensurate

1505
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: with Marvin Harrison for it to be a success. Right,

1506
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 3: you can get a number one guy later because you

1507
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: picked you can only pick one guy at three.

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01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: And as far as developing, I mean, William's right, they

1509
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: haven't had a very good track record. But I would

1510
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: say that the people that are here now would say

1511
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: give us a chance.

1512
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 4: Saying people though that's the only problem.

1513
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 7: The coach is not coaching wide receiver.

1514
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I mean I'm talking about the people that

1515
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: are going to be working with the receivers, you know.

1516
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 10: The offensive system, the people developing the receivers, and even

1517
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 10: the people picking the receivers to an extent.

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01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how much Elliott.

1519
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 10: I'm not sure how much of us, say Elliot Wolf

1520
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 10: had in Taekwon Thor and I know how much of

1521
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 10: a say mac Row had and and or at least publicly, but.

1522
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 4: Who knows what I think.

1523
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 6: To his chagrin.

1524
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 10: I think with Elliott Wolf, though it intrigues me, is

1525
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 10: that the Packers have a very good history of drafting

1526
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 10: receivers and that seems to be the grading skill that

1527
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 10: they're emulating. So I feel good about that. And the

1528
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 10: Packers draft all their receivers on Day two. They don't

1529
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 10: draft any guys in the first round, So I think

1530
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 10: for those reasons, you do feel a little bit intrigued

1531
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 10: about Disney regime being better at.

1532
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: It Ford's and Savannah Georgia. He says, I want Drake

1533
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: May over Jadon Daniels because of the postseason woes of

1534
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: the run first quarterback. The two greatest run first quarterbacks,

1535
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: Michael Vick and Lamar Jackson, made it to zero championships.

1536
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 2: The only run first quarterback who even made it was

1537
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: Cam Newton. He got bashed to bits along the way

1538
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: and never was the same after that year. In the postseason,

1539
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: when defenders sell out their bodies and are out for blood,

1540
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: the running quarterback is at a huge disadvantage called human frailty.

1541
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: I know having Lamar Jackson would have been a massive

1542
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,479
Speaker 2: upgrade to what we've had over the past for years,

1543
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: but big picture, i'd much rather have a Justin Herbert

1544
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 2: or Josh Allen type.

1545
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 4: Isn't that extremely misleading?

1546
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: What's that? Jackson doesn't really run first anymore?

1547
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: No?

1548
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 4: But how many run first quarterbacks are there?

1549
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 8: Not a lot? Right?

1550
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 3: So doesn't that make it really misleading to say, like, well,

1551
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson never won it all? Yeah, and Cam Newton

1552
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 3: never won it all. Okay, you'ranna Jackson's never won it

1553
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 3: all yet Michael Vick never won it all. You're right,

1554
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 3: there's three who else?

1555
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 6: And it's ultimately just the final frontier for quarterbacks, Like

1556
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 6: you know, that's that's the ultimate piece if you have

1557
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 6: a quarterback who can throw and run.

1558
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 3: Nowadays, a lot of these guys may not be categoric,

1559
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't ever characterize Patrick Mahomes's run first, right, No,

1560
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 3: but he's that kind of a runner and he's won

1561
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 3: three Yeah, did you see something?

1562
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: Josh Allen isn't a run first.

1563
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 3: Guy, but people would argue, people would argue he's never

1564
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 3: won anything.

1565
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 6: The NFL did a great job, though. Patrick Mahomes was like,

1566
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 6: you know, please don't show my forty times and then

1567
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 6: they were just like every big fat slob who ran

1568
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 6: faster than him. They were like, you know, doing that

1569
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,479
Speaker 6: thing where they do the lineup, This is a pretty

1570
01:06:58,480 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 6: funny good job NFL.

1571
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 3: He could run faster if you just ran straight watching Brady.

1572
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 7: That was the first time I'd seen Brady's forty and

1573
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 7: I was in shops.

1574
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 4: Really, oh, I've seen that milk.

1575
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 3: I was in sho Brady. That's a generation that's a

1576
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 3: generation gap, right, Yeah, it's literally picture.

1577
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 10: The shirt off that one that I'm scary all that

1578
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 10: way too many times.

1579
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 7: It's it's just been like when Mahomes had his shirt off.

1580
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 7: I was like, that's not what you expected for him.

1581
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 7: But then you think about it, like if you look

1582
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 7: about back at Tom Brady, You're like, it's the same.

1583
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: Maybe they do this already, but I don't think they do.

1584
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: Why not at the combine instead of the forty? You

1585
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 2: can still do the forty, but in addition to the

1586
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 2: forty time the routes.

1587
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 10: They do, they do that they do now it's been

1588
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 10: a new last couple of years, so this was a

1589
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 10: big I get into the nuances here. So Keon Coleman

1590
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 10: from Florida State ran like a four to six bombed

1591
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 10: the forty yard dash, but then he went through the gauntlet,

1592
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 10: and he was the fastest receiver through the gauntlet. He

1593
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 10: hit like twenty one miles an hour going through the

1594
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 10: gauntlet drills. So this is a whole you know place

1595
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 10: versus after you were out on him. Well, I've been

1596
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 10: out on him since watching.

1597
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 3: I don't really love that kind of a player. Yeah,

1598
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: so I haven't really pushed back, and it's not a

1599
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 3: Rishi rice. I'm not willing to push back on that one.

1600
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 3: But I just was curious if you had seen so. Yeah.

1601
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 10: So it's funny because I tweeted that I was out

1602
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 10: on Keon Coleman. Assuming people that follow me and listen

1603
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 10: to our shows and stuff know that I've been out

1604
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 10: on Keon Coleman, and everybody is like, oh, You're only

1605
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 10: out on him because he's slow in the forty Here

1606
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 10: are the ten guys that were also slow, And I'm like, no,

1607
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 10: here we go. He's not a route runner. It's just

1608
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 10: not my type of skill set.

1609
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 2: I'd like to like to me, that's felt like measuring

1610
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 2: the speed of the route and the precision of the route,

1611
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 2: like is he rounding off the corners, is he making

1612
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 2: his break at the right time? Is he you know,

1613
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 2: getting to the spot. You know, that to me is

1614
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: more important, Like Jerry Rice wasn't a burner, but he's

1615
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 2: the greatest receiver of all time.

1616
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 4: I think the forty.

1617
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 10: The biggest thing that helps with the forty is just

1618
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 10: confirming what you think you're seeing with your eyes on film.

1619
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, so in addition to that, you know.

1620
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 10: You know, for example, like a guy you know, we're

1621
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 10: just mentioned Xavier Leget, Xavier Lagette looks fast on film,

1622
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 10: and then he ran a four to three nine, So

1623
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 10: now I can say he's fast, Like, we don't have

1624
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 10: to Xavier worthy fast, Like you don't have to you have,

1625
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 10: you know, confirmation of what you were seeing.

1626
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: What if he looked fast on film and he didn't

1627
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 2: run good for.

1628
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 4: It, then you have to go back to the film,

1629
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 4: go back to the.

1630
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 2: But like you will probably write the first time, like

1631
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: maybe he's a fast receiver because he's efficient because he

1632
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 2: runs a good route, you know.

1633
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 3: But then you have to start looking at the film

1634
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 3: closer and say, you know, are they scheming him open?

1635
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: Is it?

1636
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 4: Is he looking faster on film? Or you can match

1637
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 4: up against right, you know, is he playing against Sonny's

1638
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 4: car wash? All Stars yea, correct, you know.

1639
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 6: I mean they are the all Stars.

1640
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 3: These are the things you have to find. Did you

1641
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 3: see someone actually found a Sonny's car watch? Yeah, have

1642
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,440
Speaker 3: all Stars Twitter.

1643
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 2: Car wash and the guy in front of it's got

1644
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: his pants halfway.

1645
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 3: I try to tell people that that's based on a

1646
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 3: real car wash.

1647
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,440
Speaker 4: My guy, who's your guy?

1648
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 8: A lot?

1649
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you missed on him. Uh, I'm not out. But

1650
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 4: he is small.

1651
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 3: He is small.

1652
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: I don't care.

1653
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 4: He's small and his frame is small.

1654
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: But when you say small, what do you mean like

1655
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: five to nine?

1656
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 7: No?

1657
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 4: No, no, no, he's like one hundreds.

1658
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 7: Okay, but he's small. But in regards to all the

1659
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 7: things that you were mentioning about route running and all

1660
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 7: that stuff, he's really good at that.

1661
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 4: He's excellent.

1662
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 10: But he's had an injury history at Georgia five years

1663
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 10: and he really doesn't have any great production because of

1664
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 10: said injury history. And he's got a small frame.

1665
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 7: What did the medical say about his injury?

1666
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 10: I think he's fine now, I mean he tested and everything,

1667
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 10: But I just in terms of withstanding it, especially if

1668
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 10: he's going to play so much in the middle of

1669
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 10: the field is where I would expect him.

1670
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 3: He's going to be like a Day two with the latest.

1671
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 3: Some people think he could sneak into the end of

1672
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 3: the first round.

1673
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, especially a team like Kansas City there at the end.

1674
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: You remember who knew about him?

1675
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 6: Well, I was just gonna say, first of all, I

1676
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 6: probably knew about him ten years.

1677
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 3: He's in middle school in football.

1678
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 11: No, he does. That's what I's gonna say. When I

1679
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 11: first said, Fred, say that name.

1680
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 6: Fred is literally making this up to be like a

1681
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 6: white slot receiver name, Like it's like ladd of a

1682
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 6: conky like.

1683
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 4: I don't think he's just that, he's really not. No,

1684
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 4: that was I mean I'm saying with Fred brought it

1685
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 4: up type No he.

1686
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 2: Cant but no, but he would go along to you can.

1687
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 4: Go along out of the slot. Christian Kirk made a career.

1688
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: Out of it.

1689
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 10: I think Laddi McConkie can play on the boundary and

1690
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 10: and play outside. I think you can run vertical routes

1691
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 10: on the outside because he's his best trade is his

1692
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 10: start stop.

1693
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 3: I love he can stop on a dime.

1694
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 8: Just for the show.

1695
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 4: I'd love to argue with you and tell you how much.

1696
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 2: Because I think because I think he ran a four

1697
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 2: to six right or something like McCay. Oh no, he

1698
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: was a four to three nine.

1699
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, really athletic. That's why I can't make fun of

1700
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 4: you is that he can.

1701
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 10: He can burst off the line of scrimmage and then

1702
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 10: he gets the corner to have to respect the vertical

1703
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 10: route and then he just cuts it off on a dime.

1704
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 4: Right.

1705
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 10: He's really good at He's going to be more of

1706
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 10: like an intermediate guy, like a move the chance guy,

1707
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 10: but he's really good.

1708
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 2: And you know, like in the NFL especially, that quickness

1709
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,919
Speaker 2: is so much more important than it is in college

1710
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: because everyone's fast, and but you got to get that step,

1711
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,839
Speaker 2: You got to get NFL open, and that quickness allows

1712
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 2: you to do that provided you have a quarterback who

1713
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: is on time.

1714
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and he understands how to get open

1715
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 6: to It's not just the skill set of like stopping

1716
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 6: starting in the dime, it's he he understands how to

1717
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 6: set routes up. And I mean just watching some of them, mean,

1718
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 6: you guys are down there at the Senior Bowl, but

1719
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 6: even just watching him on TV, it's like, you know,

1720
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 6: it's it's it's pretty cool watching how he does it.

1721
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 7: Literally all the corners, all the corners that he faced

1722
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 7: at the senior they all voted him like, yeah, number one,

1723
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 7: like to go against.

1724
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: Because he's tough. He's hard to stay with.

1725
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 10: I just worry about durability, Yeah, and not not in

1726
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 10: the second So small guys, I know everybody says, no,

1727
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 10: it's good to be small and shifting.

1728
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 3: That's the you know, that's why Hunter Renfro is on

1729
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: the verge of being out of the leak.

1730
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I wouldn't my at thirty four. It's totally.

1731
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 10: But if I'm a team at the end of the

1732
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 10: first round, I think a first round pick is a

1733
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 10: little bit much on a guy like that.

1734
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 2: Danny and Chicago big fan of the show was just

1735
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: curious on the level of arm strength Jayden Daniels has

1736
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: in terms of putting the ball into tight windows rather

1737
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 2: than how far the ball goes. Is it more on

1738
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 2: the weaker side like Mac or is it just an

1739
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: adequate arm in comparison to everyone else in the league.

1740
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm surprised how much of talk about his arm

1741
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 10: talent there is, because no, he does not have a

1742
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 10: huge arm like he's you know, guys like a Drake

1743
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 10: may Or are gonna beat him in terms of like

1744
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 10: miles per hour on the gun and stuff like that.

1745
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 10: But when I watched him, I wasn't overly concerned, like

1746
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 10: this guy's not gonna be able to make the throws

1747
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 10: in the NFL. And he's mobile. So that adds an

1748
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 10: element too that Mac doesn't have. I think a lot

1749
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 10: of people have Mac PTSD that they're gonna have a

1750
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 10: soft thrower. But when you're a little bit of a

1751
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 10: softer thrower and then you run a four to three,

1752
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 10: it's like not as big of a deal because you

1753
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 10: can add so much of other stuff with your mobility.

1754
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 2: So my wife likes the Notre Dame quarterback get drafted

1755
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: really really Yeah.

1756
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:12,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's hands he I mean a kid from wake.

1757
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 3: Forest, Notre Dame. Yeah, from for first, he looks like

1758
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 3: grizzly as everybody.

1759
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 11: Everybody's got a type Paul.

1760
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 4: As soon as mine. As soon as he ran.

1761
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 3: Along the lines of Jimmy and Brady, the traditional good looks.

1762
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 7: As soon as he ran the forty, I was like,

1763
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 7: that's we clipped in all over the just his hair.

1764
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 10: We have a little bit of breaking. There is not patriots,

1765
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 10: but patriots adjacent. Uh Dalton Shoultz back to the Texans

1766
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 10: three year, thirty six million dollar deals. One tight end

1767
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 10: off the market, Antoine Wakefield Junior tagged Justin Madebuque with

1768
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 10: the Ravens tagged So you got some so not Pittman

1769
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 10: huh not yet but yeah.

1770
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 7: No we're out in Sam Hartman.

1771
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 3: Sorry, okay, seventh round.

1772
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 7: You you might you might have a future in being

1773
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 7: an abercomie model though.

1774
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:03,759
Speaker 6: I mean, I came in this morning.

1775
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 4: I got to give this another look.

1776
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 3: Well, because I trust Nikki.

1777
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: He's closer to Fabian's just coming from Penmara is pulling

1778
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 2: the pictures up there.

1779
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 6: He's got he's got a shave, and it's.

1780
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 3: It's not to say the long mane.

1781
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 4: With the with the please look at his photo from Forrest.

1782
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 4: Totally different guys.

1783
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, no, he's well, but I try.

1784
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 3: I trust I trust Nikky.

1785
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 4: She has great taste in most things except men, right.

1786
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean at the Senior Bowl there were girls

1787
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 7: coming up to him to take photos.

1788
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 11: Not because you know what that's like. I know what

1789
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 11: that's like.

1790
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 3: I do I shouldn't say. I shouldn't say I do.

1791
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 7: I did, And allegedly he puts nothing in his hair,

1792
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 7: like nothing that I.

1793
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 3: Just hate him that I believe have you ever to steal?

1794
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 3: What do you put in your hair?

1795
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: What do you use any product?

1796
01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 6: There's that we we were talking about making. We should

1797
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 6: make video like a TikTok of like the ten cliches

1798
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 6: of the combine, which is, you know, have you everb

1799
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 6: the Steelers? There's always that guy who just watched on,

1800
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 6: But there's also the guys that don't even like look

1801
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 6: at the person. They just hold their phone up and

1802
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 6: they're like, what is your favorite hype song before you

1803
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 6: go a game? And they just stare there and it's

1804
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 6: like it's so awkward and like even this year, and

1805
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 6: I usually, you know, defend my my blogger brothers, but

1806
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 6: they're letting everybody in. I mean, I think you guys

1807
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 6: probably saw.

1808
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 3: Now he's a real guest. It's gotten bad.

1809
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 11: But like the like the Caleb Williams is like, I know, right, but.

1810
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 6: Some of them are just so unprofessional. And I mean

1811
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 6: the guy who was like flexing on his Caleb Williams

1812
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 6: question where he's like, you know, right off, like Caleb,

1813
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 6: it's just you know, shouting it out like it's like

1814
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 6: the nineteen thirties and you know he's on Deadline.

1815
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 2: There was just some real juice, Caleb.

1816
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 6: There were just some really really you know, just unprofessional

1817
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 6: people that I mean. And then there were other people

1818
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 6: talking about it too, that like they got to have

1819
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 6: some kind of system here where it just feels like,

1820
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 6: you know that that there's gotta be a level of

1821
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 6: like professionalism that.

1822
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 7: You're anybody who had a blog was in there.

1823
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 10: I couldn't agree more. I hate to like Big Jay anybody,

1824
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 10: but well, there has to be a line of like, oh,

1825
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 10: you know where these people are coming.

1826
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 6: Right, But I mean he was definitely there, but I

1827
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 6: mean in artifase, like I wouldn't have gone in there

1828
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 6: and just tried to make a ruckus to get a

1829
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 6: name for myself. You know, I would be there to

1830
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 6: do work and ask real questions that I want to know.

1831
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 6: Not all right, everybody look at me. I'm going to

1832
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 6: ask this ridiculous question and try to try to put

1833
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 6: the spotlight on myself like that stuff just shouldn't fly.

1834
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go.

1835
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 6: Deuces Rant of the day, brought to you by but light,

1836
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 6: easy to drink, easy to like.

1837
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 3: The irony of Deuce being very anti Yeah, you know

1838
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 3: the other thing that happens at the STUF. In all seriousness,

1839
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 3: there's a ton of college people at the combin.

1840
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 6: Too right to feature their colleges right t get out.

1841
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 3: They're pumping up their kids, and I and I do

1842
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 3: wonder Fred if it might be time for that. Yeah,

1843
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 3: like no, like I understand what they're doing. But like

1844
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 3: you did right to steal your phrase. You did have

1845
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 3: your four through three years four years minimum of three

1846
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 3: with these kids more likely.

1847
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 7: It's funny that you bring that up because Roman Wilson,

1848
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 7: his first question at the podium was like, who's a

1849
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 7: guy at Michigan that we should be on the lookout

1850
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 7: for next year that's going to be here?

1851
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I think that guy got one.

1852
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 3: That guy got one of my But you had a

1853
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: chance to ask that question to all all.

1854
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 4: Of your players.

1855
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like you do not You shouldn't be wasting

1856
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 3: time with the con you know what I mean time?

1857
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 10: You know, I was talking to U, trying to talk

1858
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 10: to Christian Jones, the tackle from Texas who I thought

1859
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 10: was really good at the Senior Bowl. And these two

1860
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 10: guys were Texas reporters, you know, beat reporters, and they

1861
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 10: clearly knew Christian Jones because he was talking to them

1862
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 10: like he you know, he knew them, and they just

1863
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 10: kept on on asking question after question after question about Texas,

1864
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 10: about the program and about Sark and about this, and

1865
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 10: I'm like people were trying to learn about these guys.

1866
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 2: For the draft point.

1867
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, that's not my bigger gripe is what

1868
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 10: d was brought up, though it got bad.

1869
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't know you guys missed it. But uh, Paul

1870
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: All was on a college trip and he got stopped

1871
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 2: in Virginia for speeding.

1872
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 11: So, Viginia, did you get away?

1873
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 6: Did you show a little leg and then you got

1874
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 6: out of it?

1875
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 2: So that's the whole thing now, Like you know, I.

1876
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 11: Don't think there'll be a ticket today.

1877
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 2: Boys, you know, was it reckless driving or not?

1878
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 4: And is there a Lawrenceville?

1879
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: But Ed says Ed from Virginia, Paul says, tell Paul

1880
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: that twenty miles over the post of speed limit is

1881
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: considered reckless driving in Virginia. Eighty five and a seventy

1882
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 2: is not reckless, whereas the person who stated they received

1883
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: reckless for going eighty two was likely in a fifty

1884
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 2: five or sixty minths.

1885
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 7: No, that's incorrect. From the Virginia early in Virginia. No

1886
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 7: matter if the speed limit is seventy, if you hit eighty,

1887
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 7: which is just ten miles over, it's automatically reckless.

1888
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 4: Okay, eighty period is reckless.

1889
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 3: The deputy who pulled me over said that he's putting

1890
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 3: me down for eighty five so it will not be

1891
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 3: considered reckless. Wow, that's what he said, you were doing.

1892
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 6: You were almost ninety.

1893
01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 4: I wasn't.

1894
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 3: But I'm in Virginia, you and I'm not looking to

1895
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 3: go to jail with my family in the car.

1896
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 4: I was tendant to my cousin. You know what I

1897
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 4: wanted to do, Fred, You know me, You know me

1898
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 4: well enough, you know what I wanted.

1899
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,799
Speaker 2: Telling the story. Oh, Fred, I was tenant too, yes, sir, yesterday.

1900
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 2: But then it's like you're going eighty five. No I wasn't.

1901
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 4: No, No, not like that, not like that.

1902
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 8: It was.

1903
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 2: But the more he talked about it, like by Andy

1904
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 2: spreading outside.

1905
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 3: The car, and and that was my fear. I shot

1906
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 3: the clerk, right, that was that was.

1907
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 2: My I didn't say anything, Fred, No, I wasn't.

1908
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 4: No, he said. When he came over and he goes,

1909
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 4: you know why I stopped you?

1910
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 3: I said, I I think I was going maybe a

1911
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 3: little too fast, and he said, yeah, he had you

1912
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 3: at ninety two, and I literally have my and I went, no,

1913
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 3: I wasn't like that. And then he was like, oh, well,

1914
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 3: you know, and then he said, yeah, no, that's what

1915
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 3: I had you. And if I was like in Massachusetts,

1916
01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 3: I would have said, I want to see the reading,

1917
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 3: and now here we go, Paul's gonna go all yeah,

1918
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 3: but I'm on the side of the road in Virginia,

1919
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 3: I ain't doing that.

1920
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 4: I ain't getting put in jail.

1921
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 3: So I just said okay, and then I said there

1922
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 3: were a lot of guys flying by me in the

1923
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 3: left lane, and he claimed that I moved lanes when

1924
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 3: I passed him.

1925
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 6: What they got you a technicality.

1926
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: It feels like there was more conversation than ten and two, Yes, sir.

1927
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 3: A mile an hours, yes, Evan. If I was going

1928
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 3: eighty two, I'd be surprised, literally, I'd be surprised.

1929
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 4: If I asked for the reading before it didn't.

1930
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 3: I would have asked for the reading if I was

1931
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 3: in Massachusetts, and I would have rolled the dice. But

1932
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 3: I wasn't doing that with Deputy Dog, and I didn't

1933
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 3: I didn't want to end up, I paid the fine,

1934
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 3: it's over, it's done with. But they were not lying

1935
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 3: about the solicitations from attorneys to get out of it.

1936
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 3: I got eleven different letters in the mail from Virginia

1937
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 3: all the way up in attorneys. They must be they.

1938
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 4: Must go right right on the database.

1939
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 11: Boom boom.

1940
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, state.

1941
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 4: Of course I'm gonna. I don't know yet, but I'm

1942
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 4: going to.

1943
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 7: I'm really jealous. And now reckless is eighty five because

1944
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 7: I literally probably got multiple tickets for going eighty in

1945
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 7: a seventy and that was considered reckless just ten over.

1946
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 2: So your your insurance is like.

1947
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 7: Oh no, now it's great. Because I had to go

1948
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 7: to driving school to get him like.

1949
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 3: To disappear, you know, you know I was.

1950
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: That was when I was like sixteen seven.

1951
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 3: The best guy to do that that rode in was

1952
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 3: he said he was like me. I think he was

1953
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 3: from Connecticut and he said he was down and he

1954
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 3: got pulled over same kind of thing, eighty something in

1955
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 3: the seventy and he had his court hearing.

1956
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 4: My court hearing was like in April. At some point.

1957
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 3: Obviously I'm not going down. I want to say, Lawrenceville.

1958
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 3: I don't know why that's sticking out to me. I'm

1959
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 3: not going down there, you know, to appear in court,

1960
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 3: and he goes. I had a couple of friends that

1961
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 3: lived in Manassas, so we made a weekend. We made

1962
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 3: a weekend out of it. I drove back down there,

1963
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 3: and I thought it and I wasn't. I was like,

1964
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 3: I wish I could.

1965
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 6: Do that when I really think if I appeared in court,

1966
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 6: I'd have a very good chance to win. When I

1967
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 6: lived in California and I was at my assistant jobs,

1968
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 6: I did I did driving online driving school to get

1969
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 6: two bosses out of tickets, like, not one, but twice.

1970
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 6: I went all through drive all myself, going through all

1971
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 6: the online driving school to get the you know whatever.

1972
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,799
Speaker 2: Not the point all right, back to football, good stuff,

1973
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 2: Paul and the colony. Let's assume the quarterbacks go picks

1974
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: one and two and the Patriots have identified Pennix as

1975
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 2: the guy they really want. Should they trade down with

1976
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 2: a plan to get him or just take him at three?

1977
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: What could they get for that type of trade.

1978
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 6: Trade down down? Yeah, trade a ways down probably. I mean,

1979
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 6: you know, I don't think that doesn't really make sense

1980
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 6: to me.

1981
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.

1982
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 4: Would you trade down or would you take.

1983
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 6: The trade down if you really wanted my COPI the.

1984
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: Gap is between Jade and Daniels and penis.

1985
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 8: Sizeable.

1986
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, not like I would I would do this. I

1987
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 6: would like I would trade down. I would take like

1988
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,839
Speaker 6: Joe Alt, and then I would trade up to get Penix.

1989
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 4: I don't it's gonna be really.

1990
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 10: I know the reports came out that Pennix had a

1991
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 10: clean bill health and stuff like that. I don't doubt it,

1992
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 10: but I doubt that that changes much about how you

1993
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 10: look at his durability. Like, yeah, okay, so he doesn't

1994
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 10: have any pre existing conditions coming into the league, that's great,

1995
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 10: but he's still got four season ending injuries in college,

1996
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 10: so that's still teams are still going to hold out

1997
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 10: of that screams. Second round pick, to me is the

1998
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 10: point where probably first round tape, but a guy that

1999
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 10: has some concerns and flags that you knock him into

2000
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 10: the second round.

2001
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 4: It might be the best passer in the draft, like

2002
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 4: he might be, I believe.

2003
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 3: Instead of just saying past I'll say he's the best

2004
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 3: thrower of the football.

2005
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 4: He can spin it, that's for sure.

2006
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 2: And Maryland try not to laugh at me too. Loudly

2007
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: for this. The Broncos just dumped Wilson and need a quarterback.

2008
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: They are also about fifteen million over the cap. How

2009
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 2: possible would it be to center a trade around mac

2010
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 2: Jones for Courtland Sutton? We would obviously gain a wide

2011
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 2: receiver while Denver gets a pseudo experienced quarterback while knocking

2012
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 2: off about ten million off that cap number.

2013
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 6: That's fine. I don't know. I mean, I just Courtland

2014
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 6: Sutton's fine.

2015
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, what fine?

2016
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 8: I mean?

2017
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 4: Do you think you can get Courtland Sutton for mac Jones?

2018
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,839
Speaker 6: Playing along? I'm playing along the Patriot?

2019
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 4: He said not to laugh, so I didn't laugh.

2020
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 6: I'm sorry I didn't.

2021
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 3: But you, I mean, you think on there's a world

2022
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 3: that you could get. People are saying maybe a conditional

2023
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 3: sixth round pick you could get. I meant Cortland Sutton,

2024
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 3: you could get mac Jones. I wasn't.

2025
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 6: I wasn't answering that. I was just answering what I

2026
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 6: want Courtland Suton for Macon?

2027
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 7: Give them mac Jones and Juju.

2028
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 10: No, that would make that would make it worse.

2029
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 6: Attacking Jackson signed.

2030
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 3: Jackson's a good player.

2031
01:25:58,560 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 4: I have no one to throw in.

2032
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 3: The ball he's pretty good.

2033
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 4: I would let's take him. Yeah, I don't.

2034
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 10: I mean mac Jones and a pick to Denver for

2035
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 10: Courtland Sutton is possible.

2036
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 3: Whatever the pick is that you'd have to trade for

2037
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: Courtland Sutton and mac Jones would get that job that done.

2038
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 3: So if you if it would cast you a third

2039
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 3: round pick to get Courtland Sutton, is that what you're saying?

2040
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 4: Maybe four?

2041
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 10: I would say that maybe if they really, if assuming

2042
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 10: not laughing at the email, that Denver likes mac Jones,

2043
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 10: which is I get a bout assumption, But assuming that

2044
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 10: they like mac Jones, maybe Courtland Sutton was worth a

2045
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 10: third round pick is now a fourth round pick plus

2046
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 10: mac Jones.

2047
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 3: That's that's what I'm saying, because.

2048
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 10: It's really valuing it as like a fourth and a sixth,

2049
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 10: you know, for for Courtland Sutton, that deal I think

2050
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 10: would be in the realm of possibility. Attacking juju on

2051
01:26:56,080 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 10: it makes it worse for the Patriots, not better, So

2052
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 10: that I don't think is gonna happen, But in.

2053
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 3: All seriousness it does because of the contract, right, Like

2054
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 3: I know what we're not making it out to be

2055
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 3: as like caut you such a bad player, but it's

2056
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 3: low production with a big contract. In order to get

2057
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 3: rid of Juju, I think they're gonna they would have

2058
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 3: to tackle pick on to Juju to get you to

2059
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 3: take the scenarios.

2060
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 4: Yes, that we can get rid of that.

2061
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 10: Just trade them with an asset or eat the Yeah post,

2062
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 10: I'm glad that you said that, because that's the answer.

2063
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 3: Like if you learned nothing yesterday. Eighty five million dollars right,

2064
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 3: dead cap. Please do yourself a favor and stop being

2065
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 3: concerned about dead money in the salary cap. In general,

2066
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 3: it's about real money and what you have to pay guys.

2067
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 3: That's always going to matter as long as there are

2068
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 3: human beings writing the checks. But in terms of getting

2069
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 3: out from beat contracts by dead money, eighty five million dollars, how.

2070
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,440
Speaker 2: Will this new the broncos?

2071
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,560
Speaker 4: I mean it will affect the broncos.

2072
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 3: I mean not amount of money. It's absolutely going to

2073
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 3: affect him. But what I'm saying is it's not a

2074
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 3: deal breaker when the guy needs to go, yeah, you

2075
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 3: gotta play perfect. This is nothing like that. But we're

2076
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 3: talking about with Juju smash, so you're talking to nothing.

2077
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 2: Kareem says Lad McConkie. Sounds like Chris Hogan. If McConkie

2078
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,480
Speaker 2: also has the superpower of invisibility to defenses, then he would.

2079
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 10: Be a great I mean, I watched a little better

2080
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 10: player than Chris Hogan. Mike and I watched a little

2081
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 10: dynasty today. Was invisibility is?

2082
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? There was one catch out of the They showed

2083
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 3: probably four or five catches that he made.

2084
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 4: In one of them, he had a guy covering him.

2085
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 4: One of the Super Bowl.

2086
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2087
01:28:55,240 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 2: Another uh Russell Wilson related email. Uh, let's see they're

2088
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: going to be released by the So no need to

2089
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 2: trade any draft picks. Any word on what money he's

2090
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 2: asking for. Is he taking a discount to rebuild his reputation?

2091
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 2: Delusional likes no.

2092
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 10: So it behooves him to take the minimum because it

2093
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 10: has offset, so he's going to get paid more. Actually,

2094
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,679
Speaker 10: if he takes the minimum and takes the money from Denver,

2095
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 10: then if he goes out and tries to get like

2096
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 10: a quarterback, you know, starting quarterback salary, that offsets the

2097
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 10: Denver money, then he's gonna end up losing money. So

2098
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 10: it behooves him to take a league minimum.

2099
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 2: Interests No, Fridge, No.

2100
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,600
Speaker 10: I just don't too much. It's not even about his

2101
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 10: play on the field.

2102
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 11: Too much of a.

2103
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 6: Bridge bridge, no Sagamore second bridge. I just think that

2104
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 6: it's bridge falling apart.

2105
01:29:55,439 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 4: We're going to ask falling down you're committed to under

2106
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 4: the bridge?

2107
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 3: Is startling quarter back next year?

2108
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 10: Like Russell Wilson's not going anywhere without being on the

2109
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 10: quarterback here every see.

2110
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 3: I'd be okay with that. I know, probably Thursday we'll

2111
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 3: get into it because it's getting late.

2112
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 4: You know.

2113
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,799
Speaker 3: Evan and I disagree a little on the plan of attack,

2114
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 3: but I don't mind letting someone be the bridge guy

2115
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 3: for the year, right.

2116
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 4: I just don't want it to be Russell Wilson. Me

2117
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:23,759
Speaker 4: too agreed.

2118
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 8: I hate that idea.

2119
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 3: I think he's looking to be the star still center

2120
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 3: of attention, and I just don't think he's been very

2121
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 3: effective for now threes going back to Seattle into two

2122
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:34,719
Speaker 3: years in Denver.

2123
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, and even if you can talk yourself into maybe

2124
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 6: you can save him after three years of down play,

2125
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 6: like you still have to sign up for the Russell

2126
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,520
Speaker 6: He's gonna be working out on on the airplane. And

2127
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 6: if you're gonna.

2128
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 10: Draft, you're not gonna probably draft somebody at three if

2129
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 10: you sign up for Russell Wilson. So even if you

2130
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 10: draft Pennix at thirty four, is Russell Wilson gonna mentor

2131
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 10: Michael Pennix?

2132
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 4: Is he gonna take him under his wing and should? No,

2133
01:30:58,640 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 4: of course not.

2134
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 10: He's gonna be like f you like he's Russell Wilson.

2135
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 10: This is my job, you know that sort of thing.

2136
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 10: Jacoby Brissett is gonna approach the job totally different than

2137
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 10: somebody like Russell Wilson.

2138
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 7: Wondering what to do without game day weekends. Spruce up

2139
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 7: your home for festive spring brunches with Bob's latest party

2140
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Speaker 7: ready seasonal dining styles. Whether you're looking for storage, pack seating,

2141
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 7: expandable options, or cozy coffee tables, be sure to shop

2142
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 7: Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture store of the New

2143
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 7: England Patriots.

2144
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 2: All right, Ryan in Virginia, Right Sin? I think we

2145
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 2: could use a break from the twenty twenty four draft

2146
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 2: talk by talking about the twenty twenty three draft. How

2147
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,639
Speaker 2: would you grade A to F scale the Patrios twenty

2148
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 2: twenty three draft class based on these three points? Last season?

2149
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 2: Right after the draft, how would you have graded it? I?

2150
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 3: Who do they take we're talking about the whole class

2151
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 3: and solid I was Chat Island City City.

2152
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 4: So Jake Andrews D plus C.

2153
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 6: Booty would I would say, I would say Gonzalez is

2154
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 6: an A and the rest is so I give him

2155
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 6: a C.

2156
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 3: I would have said after the draft, Yeah, for hearing

2157
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 3: about Pop Douglas, it was a good pick.

2158
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 2: Before the twenty twenty three week one of the regular season,

2159
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 2: any changed in that grade.

2160
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 4: For you, Well, I mean a plus at that point.

2161
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 2: After you saw them in camp, and.

2162
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 3: I would have bumped into a C plus because of Douglas.

2163
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 3: I thought he flashed a little bit in camp. Yeah,

2164
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,839
Speaker 3: that's fair. And then by the end of the season.

2165
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why I said plus because like out and.

2166
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 2: Out shouldn't get hurt because of that.

2167
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 4: Healthy injury. What did you get out of your draft

2168
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 4: class in the year one?

2169
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 10: I think I thought we were talking about it more

2170
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 10: of like looking forward. Those guys are going to contribute

2171
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 10: to forward forward.

2172
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 6: I'm still Gonzales and and Pop players going No.

2173
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 2: But has your opinion of Gonzales gone down?

2174
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 6: No?

2175
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 2: No, no, So I don't think you should get hurt

2176
01:32:58,320 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 2: because he got But.

2177
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 3: I do agree with I think but I don't mean

2178
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:02,759
Speaker 3: it hasn't gone out either.

2179
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 2: Okay, but if you think he's going to be an

2180
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 2: a player, you still think he's going to be an

2181
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 2: a player, right.

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01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 6: But you might have some injury.

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01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking about him.

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01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 10: Oh, just don't just don't tackle people with your shoulders, Evan.

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01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 6: Evan slipped to me in Indian and he's like, I

2186
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 6: don't even you can tell us a tackling No, I

2187
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 6: don't need to cover.

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01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 3: Just just I'd like to see I mean, it'd be

2189
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 3: interesting to see how they use.

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01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 2: Him this year.

2191
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 3: Don't tackle anything. I'd like to see him a little

2192
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 3: bit more like the traditional star cornerback, but not the

2193
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 3: star position star player. Like the other team's got a

2194
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 3: really good wide receiver, you're gonna just I mean, that's

2195
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 3: what he did at the beginning of life. I want

2196
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 3: you're doing Manda Man on the other team's stud all

2197
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 3: the time? Enough of that? Yeah, really, I didn't. I

2198
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 3: saw a lot of zone jack. The best play he

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01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 3: made in the three games was was a zone Miami,

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01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 3: his zone player. That was a phenomenal play that he made.

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01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 2: Jacket and Aba, how was your appraisal of Roman Wilson

2202
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 2: change based on Wilson's combine.

2203
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 6: Performance none at all.

2204
01:33:58,600 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's what he is.

2205
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 2: You like him and and you like him now.

2206
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 3: Still a good player.

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01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 2: Okay. Audrey from New Hampshire has some combine coverage critique.

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01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 6: Cool, wait, this is Audrey Audrey. Audrey's always a little

2209
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 6: critical on me. I appreciate you, Audrey.

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01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 4: Thank you for the feedback. Mounds like I'm not here

2211
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:14,600
Speaker 4: for this.

2212
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 3: I don't care.

2213
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 2: You don't like being critiqued.

2214
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 10: By people that like, like, if you critiqued me, I'd

2215
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 10: be like, Okay, I'd listened to you.

2216
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 4: But Evan has no use. Mike is very passive aggressive when.

2217
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 3: It comes to critiques.

2218
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:32,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, but like I always, I think it's good practice.

2219
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 2: I enjoyed watching and listening to all your coverage of

2220
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 2: this week's Combine. Love the live video recaps and interviews

2221
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 2: from Dus and Evan.

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01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 8: Okay, thank you so good. Thank you.

2223
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 2: Let me share a few observations and possible improvements going forward.

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01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks.

2225
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 2: Why is Mike on hyper speed? Verbally? He definitely found

2226
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 2: his counterpart in Field Yates, who also speaks in jet mode.

2227
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 2: I think your brain is moving faster than possible for

2228
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:00,640
Speaker 2: your mouth. Great energy and intelligence, but calm down a

2229
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 2: smidge for the listeners. This is funny because we know

2230
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 2: Evan is probably bursting inside with information and it's cool

2231
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 2: to be here and I'm talking with Elliott wolf energy.

2232
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 2: Somehow he manages to remain calm verbally. Next, so so far,

2233
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 2: so good, Evan.

2234
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2235
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 2: Next, I know Paul was joking about the bed sheet backdrop,

2236
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 2: but honestly, it did have that effect. I realized it

2237
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,879
Speaker 2: was because it wasn't tight and had wrinkles and sagging

2238
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:33,520
Speaker 2: on both sides. No, there used to actually be bed

2239
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 2: you know it was. There was betting along those Did

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01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 2: you have the ones with all the NFL logos? I

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01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 2: did too. Yeah, it looked like a sheet pinned up

2242
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 2: behind the guys in the front table edge had a

2243
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 2: strange dripping effect that reminded me of Halloween and didn't match.

2244
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 2: I will say that the angle of the I don't

2245
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 2: know if it was the table of the angle of

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01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 2: the camera. It looked like you guys were behind a

2247
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 2: wall rather than behind a table.

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01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,640
Speaker 10: I appreciated it because it was showed less of It

2249
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 10: looked like you were like less of me that you

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01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 10: can see.

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01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 2: It was almost like a pilt The show. Yeah, like

2252
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 2: you had a wall in front of you instead of

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01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 2: the table.

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01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 8: I feel like we.

2255
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 7: Really don't do many sitting debrief videos period.

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01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 6: We're always now they just kind of give you the

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01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 6: table and the tablecloth.

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01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, Yeah, awesome job overall, and I'm always happy

2259
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 2: to listen to my favorite group. Thanks for all you do.

2260
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 6: I thanks you guys, go off to slow down.

2261
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 4: Where are the critiques of me?

2262
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 11: That's all it is.

2263
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 6: Were just here the co's.

2264
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 3: That's what I was.

2265
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 4: I don't even have any pointers.

2266
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 6: I don't know trying to get it.

2267
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 7: I feel like you talk the same speed that you do.

2268
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 4: I don't really notice.

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01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 2: I heard on ninety eight point five today, is mate.

2270
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 4: I heard it.

2271
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 3: That's why I went into staring through your soul because

2272
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 3: that's the line that you used this morning.

2273
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 4: Made me chuck.

2274
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 3: What's one? Oh Alabama guys, they all look like they're

2275
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 3: staring at yourself.

2276
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 2: It was funny because I guess he's away this week.

2277
01:36:59,160 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 4: I guess I didn't.

2278
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 2: I was aware Hardy to have his guests wait wait, references.

2279
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 10: To Perillo and that that hit that wasn't your mate envoye.

2280
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 10: You've been on there before, he.

2281
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 4: Thinks that was the first time.

2282
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 2: I think, that's what Hardy says.

2283
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 6: I think it was.

2284
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 4: I don't know, I think, And yeah, but you dodged

2285
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 4: a bullet not having Fred there.

2286
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, No, I was waiting for it. Who will who?

2287
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 11: I didn't know who I was talking too.

2288
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 6: I mean it was Joe Murray, right, was that?

2289
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 3: Joe Murray, John Waller, John Wallackle.

2290
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 7: No.

2291
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 10: I like Fred, but you know, he always has to

2292
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 10: have one thing that's like not about the topic, and

2293
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 10: you're just.

2294
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 11: That's not what I was bracing for.

2295
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:33,560
Speaker 6: And we're going through the circle of questions and I

2296
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 6: first my interest was piqued because I didn't realize Hardy

2297
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 6: went first, and so I was like, oh, maybe I started,

2298
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 6: but I was waiting for them.

2299
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 4: You didn't realize Fred wasn't there. No, I didn't.

2300
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 3: So did Hardy just reach out to you?

2301
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 4: So you want to come on?

2302
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 6: He's just like, hey, can you pop on?

2303
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 10: And yeah, like if I you know, you come on

2304
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 10: after the combine are at I've done it at the

2305
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 10: Combine at times too, and you know, Fred will just

2306
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 10: be like so I was last night, you know, and

2307
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 10: it's like, what do you want to?

2308
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 6: Like?

2309
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 4: What do you want me to say, I.

2310
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 6: Didn't even know I would have good answer.

2311
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they also we're talking about the Channel media survey.

2312
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have some bones to pick with.

2313
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, what happened to you?

2314
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I don't know what happened. I

2315
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 2: haven't seen it.

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01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 6: I I mean, I did see the one that we

2317
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 6: were usually in, and I don't think we were in it,

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01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 6: which was still write in. Yeah, I don't think Alex

2319
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 6: bar barth plasted like a twenty because they always talk

2320
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 6: about it on the thread because sports, because they're flexing.

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01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,640
Speaker 2: So usually we get written in. We didn't get written.

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01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 6: No, I don't think so. I did not see the one.

2323
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it. I saw I saw a couple

2324
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 4: of So what's your bone to pick?

2325
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 3: Maybe off there?

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01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 4: Oh lot?

2327
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,679
Speaker 10: Because I just don't want to sound like I'm throwing

2328
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,480
Speaker 10: throwing bows at anything.

2329
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:41,719
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, throwing bows No, I mean elbows.

2330
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I just don't want to It's gonna sound

2331
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 10: salty and it's just not worth it.

2332
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 3: I don't know if I love when marriages shakes.

2333
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 2: Just I have to older people.

2334
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:58,520
Speaker 3: My kookie uncles that just don't know that's throwing bows.

2335
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 2: Kyle and Pam five Patriots trivia questions for you guys.

2336
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 2: The winner will get a job sticker from Fred A

2337
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 2: good job sticker for your helmets. Scratch, who holds the

2338
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,839
Speaker 2: record for the longest field goal in team history?

2339
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 3: Yes, you know how fifty nine sixty sixty That was

2340
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 3: Mexico Elevation.

2341
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 2: While Tom Brady is the winningest quarterback the Patriots have

2342
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 2: ever had. Which former Patriots quarterback has holds the second

2343
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 2: place spot to the goat?

2344
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:37,959
Speaker 3: Butosrogan Crogan is correct, so we going by wins percentage.

2345
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 2: I guess wins seventy five and sixty. Ty Law has

2346
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 2: thirty six career interceptions with the Patriots, tying him for

2347
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,959
Speaker 2: the first among former Patriots. Who is he tied.

2348
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 4: With Mike Haynes Incorrect.

2349
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 3: With the Patriots like just with the Patriots, Rodney Harrison.

2350
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 2: No, Raymond Claiborne, who has recorded the most receiving yards

2351
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 2: while playing for the Patriots, Stanley Morgan correct, right by

2352
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 2: over ten thousand yards. And finally, which former Patriot in

2353
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 2: current National Wrestling Hall of Fame member defeated brock Lessner

2354
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 2: in the nineteen ninety nine NCAA dew Even Neil. That's right,

2355
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 2: even I could have gotten that. All right, let's turn

2356
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,759
Speaker 2: back to the Ace ticket hut line. See who's holding

2357
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 2: on for a long time. Tim's in Boston. What's up Tim?

2358
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 7: Hey?

2359
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 18: Everyone?

2360
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 19: Obviously it's a mock draft season, but I feel like

2361
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 19: I'm never too interested in them because they feel so

2362
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 19: unrealistic when you have just one person picking, because there's

2363
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 19: there's thirty one other gms who get paid to right. Right,

2364
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 19: So here's my idea. Take a media rep for all

2365
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 19: thirty two teams. I nominate Evan and do like a

2366
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 19: three round mock draft.

2367
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 4: We've done it many, Yeah, we've done it before, many.

2368
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 19: Specifically against thirty one guys. Though, I'll take it out there.

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01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, we've done it.

2370
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 10: Okay, Yeah, we've done And there's also it's largely pretty boring. Yeah,

2371
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 10: ESPN and the Athletic I've been a part of the

2372
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 10: one with the Athletic one since they they'll like a

2373
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 10: sign like a local beat writer to pick for the Patriots,

2374
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 10: pick for the Bengals, pick for the Steelers, so on

2375
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 10: and so forth, and you go through the whole first round.

2376
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 10: It's hard. It's hard to pick for other teams because

2377
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 10: you don't know their needs and know their their scouting

2378
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 10: departments and stuff like that, like we know our own.

2379
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 10: So I like those ones every once in a while.

2380
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 2: Uh, Anthony, howdye Fred? You did it? You found a

2381
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 2: replacement for Eric and Evan? Not since the quark Smeller

2382
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 2: has a host had so little use for the opinions

2383
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 2: of the fans and been so dismissive to callers and emailers.

2384
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 2: Q Evan uh, saying Okay, We're done with this. Not

2385
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 2: long ago, Evan was lamenting not being able to give

2386
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 2: his opinion on an opinion show, but then turns around

2387
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 2: and says, nobody can critique him or his football takes.

2388
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 4: I can't say that now, said Fred could.

2389
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 2: If only Deuce could get as irrationally mad as the

2390
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 2: low t Rex, it'd be just like old time.

2391
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:02,640
Speaker 8: No.

2392
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 10: I just said that I care about the critiques of

2393
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 10: people that mattered to me, like the people in this room. Sure,

2394
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 10: but the emailers know.

2395
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 2: That the fans should matter to you. I think they

2396
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 2: should matter.

2397
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 10: Okay, See, that's a critique that I'm gonna take consideration.

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01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 6: All right, It's a whole new eave cork smeller. Like

2399
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 6: who There's no one else in the world that has

2400
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 6: that is like their you know, bad nickname cork smelling.

2401
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means.

2402
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 6: Hold on, don't get us started.

2403
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a whole idea. Eldred is in North Carolina

2404
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 2: giving it another shot. What's up, Eldred? Eldred?

2405
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 11: You got me laughing, buddy.

2406
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 18: But I'm not going to pick on you today though.

2407
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 18: But after watching the combine and after a couple of days,

2408
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 18: they think Penny dog d right, but J J. McCartney pout,

2409
01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 18: They got him going to to Denver.

2410
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2411
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 3: I see one that's eight on NFL network now, and

2412
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 3: I've seen another one nine on NFL networks. I assume

2413
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 3: that's like Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks and those kinds

2414
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:09,719
Speaker 3: of people.

2415
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2416
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's suddenly vaulted into the It's very similar to

2417
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 3: mac Jones in that regard. Mac Jones was a Day

2418
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 3: two pick when the season ended, and then by the

2419
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 3: time the draft process got underway, everybody talked themselves into

2420
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 3: mac Jones.

2421
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 10: I feel like this feels more like Zach Wilson to

2422
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 10: me because just of the type of players that they are,

2423
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,679
Speaker 10: Like Matt, he has a lot Paul, you said this earlier.

2424
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 10: McCarthy's a lot more talented than mac Jones was from

2425
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 10: a mobility arm talent standpoint. But I think ten to

2426
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 10: twenty is fair for J. J. McCarthy. It's what's crazy

2427
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 10: is the people that are saying that he's, you know,

2428
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 10: gonna go before jayd and.

2429
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 3: Daniels and stuff like that. That is what I can't understand.

2430
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 18: Yeah, one more question, Evan. Listening to your podcast, you

2431
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 18: induce and y'all hit him, My boy, Jordan Travis. He

2432
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 18: starts nears, don't understand, and I didn't like witty deep lord,

2433
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 18: but he's a whole lot more accurate than Drake may

2434
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:06,879
Speaker 18: and may K throwing the rain. Look at the Climpton

2435
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 18: game from from two years ago. He came throwing the ring.

2436
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:10,640
Speaker 15: But that's all.

2437
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 18: I got a good one, all right.

2438
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 3: Tell just some researcher on your Jordan Travis thing to

2439
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:17,879
Speaker 3: Fred And he was a Day three pick before the injury.

2440
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, he's a late round pick. He's very small,

2441
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:22,599
Speaker 10: little flyer, would be fine.

2442
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 6: But I just I was just intrigued by him from

2443
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 6: the podium. I hadn't even really watched him in all

2444
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 6: before the combat. It's just one where you float by

2445
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 6: these guys, and all of a sudden, the guy just hey, hey,

2446
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 6: this guy seems interesting and just stop and listen to him.

2447
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,640
Speaker 6: And yeah, somebody, I'd take a flyer on it.

2448
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 4: I'd rather Bazuoka Joe.

2449
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 6: That's a great shot from the combine and him watching

2450
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,719
Speaker 6: that bomb and then just turn around me like boom.

2451
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 10: I mean, that's that's what he was like in Mobile too.

2452
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 10: After every good throw he's doing it back. I'm like,

2453
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 10: this guy is great, this guy.

2454
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:50,679
Speaker 2: But can he play?

2455
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 8: No?

2456
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 4: Not really, not really?

2457
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:55,440
Speaker 2: Uh, Brad's in Ohio. What's up, Brad?

2458
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 9: Hello?

2459
01:44:57,720 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 6: How you guys?

2460
01:44:59,720 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 2: Good?

2461
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 9: Okay, it's good talking to you. You always have good

2462
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 9: conversation and you're always so intelligent about our teams, said,

2463
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 9: always good and refreshing here. So that being said, we

2464
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 9: were talking, you know, last year's draft real quick. I

2465
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 9: just want to touch on the fact that I thought

2466
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 9: City Style was really stable piece there at right guard

2467
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 9: and strong along Docker. I noticed that the gold line

2468
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 9: and you know, the ballas I think is an aide

2469
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 9: boss if he can stay healthy. And Douglass was a

2470
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 9: decent pick. So that being said, and then when I

2471
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 9: look at the draft, one thing I got to tell you, guys,

2472
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 9: I'm a Michigan.

2473
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 2: Fan from Ohio.

2474
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 9: I know a lot of people don't like McCarthy and

2475
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,719
Speaker 9: you know, but one the things we have to understand

2476
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 9: about him is he played under center most of the

2477
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 9: time and he does have a very good arm and

2478
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 9: an intermediate range throw in like twenty five thirty. And

2479
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 9: he can't throw a great beat ball, will touch. He

2480
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 9: needs to be tough at but I mean as far

2481
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 9: as arm, talent, and and attitude, I don't see anyone that's.

2482
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 2: So you think he should go in the first round.

2483
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 2: Brid you think he could go in the first round.

2484
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 9: McCarthy, I think he's a late round pick.

2485
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

2486
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 9: In my In my I would like to see Marvin

2487
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 9: Harrison Junior and move up in the first round with

2488
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:41,680
Speaker 9: JJ McCarthy.

2489
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:44,719
Speaker 2: Okay, back up in that would be something.

2490
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 9: Or trade back if we can't get the two tackles,

2491
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 9: trade back and get a receiver and McCarthy.

2492
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, he does make I always like hearing

2493
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 2: I always like hearing people who watched the guys extensively,

2494
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 2: you know, besides you know Evan, but like people who

2495
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 2: were there, you know, watching these games as a fan,

2496
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 2: like we hear from the North Carolina people who don't

2497
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 2: like Drake May, most of them, you know, for some reason,

2498
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 2: and you know they're North Carolina fans vocal.

2499
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 8: You know.

2500
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 4: I heard from a lot of people who are in

2501
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 4: love with the guy when I was.

2502
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 3: There, like on the campus, Oh yeah, may right, couldn't

2503
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 3: go anywhere, you know.

2504
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 2: Like I've started watching I've watched four guys. I've watched Williams,

2505
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels, and I've watched Panics, and none of

2506
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 2: them are like can't miss. They've all got something, you know,

2507
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 2: Like Caleb Williams is obviously the most talented quarterback of

2508
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 2: the group, but all of them have something and he's like, well,

2509
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 2: you know, but this and Drake May is the one

2510
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,799
Speaker 2: that has the most Like I think of all those people,

2511
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:55,640
Speaker 2: I think Drake May is the guy that could use

2512
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 2: a year to just watch. If you had a good yeah.

2513
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 3: If you had a good Josh.

2514
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 2: But it's decision making, you know. And I think the

2515
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 2: biggest thing, well, there's a lot of big things, but

2516
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 2: one of the most important things is understanding the speed

2517
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 2: of the game and figuring out if this guy is

2518
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,839
Speaker 2: going to be able to process at that speed. Because

2519
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 2: that's what kills these guys. You see, we've seen them

2520
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:22,919
Speaker 2: all forever in training camp. You bring these rookie quarterbacks

2521
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 2: in and we had Brady obviously, so nobody looks that good.

2522
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 2: But it's drop back, hold the ball, can't make a decision,

2523
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 2: can't make decision, you know, take off And you know

2524
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 2: that's the big thing. You have to be able to

2525
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:38,759
Speaker 2: process in the NFL because the speed of the game

2526
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 2: is so much faster it comes at you. And when

2527
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 2: you look at Williams and all of these guys, they

2528
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 2: have so much time on their film. You know, it's

2529
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 2: just not even close. Now. I will say Drake May's

2530
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 2: line sucked the North Carolina was of all the lines

2531
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 2: that I watched, including Panix's, Drake Mays was the worst line.

2532
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 2: But even he had a lot of time compared to

2533
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 2: what he's going to get in the NFL. And that's

2534
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 2: what worries me about him the most is can he

2535
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 2: process quick enough to not make these dumb decisions.

2536
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, Washington had some studs for Lion.

2537
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, there's some post snap stuff that I agree with

2538
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 10: you with on on Drake May that will need to improve.

2539
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:21,559
Speaker 10: But I think that he has a really good feel

2540
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:25,759
Speaker 10: pre snap, and then also really good feel of navigating pressure,

2541
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 10: Like he understands I'm sliding the line over this direction.

2542
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 10: So that means that if they bring an extra guy,

2543
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 10: it's going to come from over here. So I'm just

2544
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 10: going to drift a little bit in the pocket to

2545
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 10: my right to buy myself that little extra beat.

2546
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I probably answer to this is yes, But

2547
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 2: did you get a chance to watch like his bad

2548
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 2: plays too?

2549
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

2550
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, See I don't I watch full games, so

2551
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 10: I don't. I don't watch highlights. I don't watch just good.

2552
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:52,680
Speaker 2: Just that's the real way to do.

2553
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 4: So I watched.

2554
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 10: I watched full games, and I watched about eight of

2555
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 10: his games from last year. And the biggest concern that

2556
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 10: I have with with him is mechanically, Like he's got

2557
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 10: to tighten up his release, he's got tighten up his footwork.

2558
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:07,719
Speaker 10: He's got to be more consistent. And there are times

2559
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 10: where it becomes a big factor. You know, there's one

2560
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 10: strip sack on his film where the ball is hanging

2561
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 10: out all the way back here and his arm is

2562
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 10: just begging for somebody to hit the ball or hit

2563
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 10: his arm. Like those things have to tighten up and

2564
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 10: why he would probably benefit from some time sitting. But

2565
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 10: I think that in terms of consistency as a thrower

2566
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 10: and those respects that you were saying, I would actually

2567
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:32,719
Speaker 10: say Jaden is probably the best out of all these guys.

2568
01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 10: You know, everything above the ways, but Jaden Daniels is

2569
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 10: very compact, very efficient. Ball comes out quickly, ball comes

2570
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:43,560
Speaker 10: out on time. He just struggles at times with processing

2571
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 10: speed of the progression, like Okay, my first read is

2572
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 10: not there. Now I have to come off that, get

2573
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 10: to the second. That's what you're talking about. Time in

2574
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 10: the pocket. Like he had all day to do those

2575
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 10: types of things at LSU.

2576
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 2: You know, speaking of loosey goosey with the ball, I

2577
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:58,879
Speaker 2: mean Caleb Williams is loosey goosey.

2578
01:50:58,920 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 8: Now.

2579
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 2: The thing is he's so athletic that guys couldn't catch

2580
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 2: him and he had huge space back there. But yeah,

2581
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:08,719
Speaker 2: like he'll start off with the ball way out there,

2582
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,559
Speaker 2: and like I said, he can get away with it.

2583
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 2: But guys in the NFL are going to be on

2584
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 2: him a lot quicker. You put that ball out there,

2585
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 2: someone's going to hit your arm.

2586
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, he took a lot of sacks in college, held

2587
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 10: the ball a lot and took in a lot of fumbles.

2588
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be be a hero, Seah. I look

2589
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 3: at the stuff like, I agree with you on these

2590
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,639
Speaker 3: loose with the ball thing on both him and May.

2591
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,719
Speaker 3: I try to just focus on what they're doing.

2592
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:35,440
Speaker 4: I don't.

2593
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 3: I'm not a football coach, so I don't try to

2594
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 3: like interpret mentally what's going on. Like I don't say like, oh,

2595
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 3: he's slow with this progress, Like I don't know, I

2596
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 3: don't know what the progression has to be. So I

2597
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 3: just try to like go off of what I see.

2598
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 3: I see it so much similarity with when Evan's talking

2599
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 3: about the mechanics. I don't know if he's ever going

2600
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 3: to develop. Josh Allen came into the league a mess,

2601
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 3: and he's not a mess anymore. Maybe Drake May will

2602
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 3: always be a mess. Like if he just stays the

2603
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 3: way he is, he'll be a talented but mediocre quarterback

2604
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:18,680
Speaker 3: if he sort of develops better footwork and learns to

2605
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 3: protect the football better. Now, none of them really throw

2606
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,680
Speaker 3: like this is why I you know, the guys that

2607
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:26,599
Speaker 3: throw the stats at you, their stats are eye popping.

2608
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 3: None of these guys, like I think Caleb Williams had

2609
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 3: a terrible year. I think he threw five picks like

2610
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 3: these guys' stats are through the roof. But he won't

2611
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 3: get away with holding the ball like you said, he

2612
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 3: won't And if he doesn't learn how to do something quicker,

2613
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 3: you know.

2614
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 10: That's that's why I feel like I gravitate towards May

2615
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 10: so much because to me, his mechanical flaws are coachable

2616
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 10: and fix.

2617
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 4: That's how I feel.

2618
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 10: So if you get him with the right coach who

2619
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 10: can drill his footwork into the ground to the point

2620
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 10: where it becomes repetitious and you know you're you're doing

2621
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:06,800
Speaker 10: it consistently. Then between the ears he does a lot

2622
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 10: of the little quarterbacking type of things that are NFL ready,

2623
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 10: especially attacking the middle of the field where he's really

2624
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 10: good at reading leverage and layering throws into the middle

2625
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 10: of the field, whereas some of these other guys don't

2626
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 10: even touch the middle of the field. They're bubble screen,

2627
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 10: go ball right like that. That's all they're doing. That's

2628
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 10: Jayden Daniels, that's all he was doing in college. So

2629
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 10: you know he gets up to the podium and they say, well,

2630
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 10: what's your favorite ball to throw. He laughs, and he's

2631
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 10: like a slow fade obviously because he threw about five

2632
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 10: hundred of them last year. Lamers right and Thomas. So

2633
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 10: when I you know, we see him at his pro day,

2634
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 10: you know, how does he throw a dig route? How

2635
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 10: does he how does he throw a deep out? How

2636
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:47,600
Speaker 10: does he throw a slant? Like those things are? He

2637
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 10: doesn't do that a ton On his film.

2638
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 2: Alex and Mount Holly says, just read Evans post Combine

2639
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 2: mock draft, and I hope Elliott Wolf and Rod Mayo

2640
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:58,160
Speaker 2: have that same amount of luck and finding gems late

2641
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 2: in the draft the way Evan didmpletely agree with his

2642
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,720
Speaker 2: mock draft and would feel better if Evan could be

2643
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:04,639
Speaker 2: in the war room late.

2644
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, don't get me.

2645
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:09,759
Speaker 2: That my only complaint since I'm a North Carolina native,

2646
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 2: Why did you pick Drake may Don't you know he sucks?

2647
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:14,760
Speaker 2: What I'm talking about this?

2648
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 4: I think that was a tongue of cheek.

2649
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 6: I mean, okay, I just think it goes back to

2650
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 6: what I said the top was any of these guys,

2651
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 6: they all have the ceilings that it's just it's worth

2652
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 6: the miss. It's not to over You can't overthink Drake

2653
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 6: May and say no, no, no, we gotta go with

2654
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 6: Joe allt You know, I just go for that quarter.

2655
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 4: I think part of the May thing in North Carolina.

2656
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 3: I'm not speaking for them, but like, he had a

2657
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 3: really good year two years ago and he was disappointing

2658
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 3: this year. If I was in North Carolina and I

2659
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 3: rooted for the tar Heels, I'd be down on Drake

2660
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 3: May too. That's I was expecting a lot.

2661
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 2: And that's what they said, look at his twenty two film.

2662
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 2: Don't look at his.

2663
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 3: Well in twenty two, Josh downs So should he hadn't

2664
01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 3: he had? He lost a lot of NFL players.

2665
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just think that that's the difference and why

2666
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 10: I always pick on the North Carolina people is ultimately, no,

2667
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 10: like I don't care if he had a good year

2668
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 10: or a bad year by the standard of the college,

2669
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 10: like or they won the national championship or not, because

2670
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 10: I'm looking at the player of how he's going to

2671
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 10: project to the next level. So whether or not they

2672
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 10: won enough games for you is like, really, it's irrelevant

2673
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 10: to me because it's you know it. I don't look

2674
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 10: at quarterback wins as like an all quarterbacks things, So

2675
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 10: I look at it as how is this guy going

2676
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 10: to play in the league? And that's more important to

2677
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 10: me than what did the UNC go? Their record was

2678
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 10: was not very good.

2679
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 2: Todd, North Carolina's on the line. What's up, Todd?

2680
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 20: Hey, guys, you're talking about Virginia. Been to Busch Gardens

2681
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 20: a couple of times, driven through parts of Virginia and

2682
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 20: me too. They're the fastest drivers I've ever seen the

2683
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 20: heck out of me.

2684
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:42,680
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah.

2685
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 20: I had one State trooper pull off from the left

2686
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 20: plane and decide to make a right turn and exit

2687
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 20: right in front of me. Cut me right off, just

2688
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 20: no siren nothing.

2689
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 9: Wow, Okay, you gotta you gotta.

2690
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 20: Well, Paul, I think you did that. Now, what I

2691
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 20: want to talk about is if we get to quarterback,

2692
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 20: what is the best thing, Like, I don't think get

2693
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 20: a receiver is the best idea for a two quarterback.

2694
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 20: I think it's build the line, get the running game going.

2695
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 19: Yeah, what do you guys.

2696
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 20: Think, how would you approach for bran new quarterback?

2697
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 6: The Yeah, I mean that's another position we could probably

2698
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 6: touch on real quick. Here at the end, it's just

2699
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 6: the running backs and you know, not a great top

2700
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 6: you know, top notch guys. But I think there's a

2701
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 6: lot of guys late day two, early day three that

2702
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 6: you know, can come in and play a role in

2703
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 6: the backfield. I think it's it's I don't know. I

2704
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 6: just I'm struggling to put words to it. I don't

2705
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 6: think it's like a deep class, but I just think

2706
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 6: there's some intriguing options that you could grab, and it's

2707
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:39,839
Speaker 6: it's not going to cost.

2708
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 10: It because they're all replaceable, so free agents.

2709
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 4: There's twenty and one guy.

2710
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 10: You know, Bucky Irving is probably going to be the

2711
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 10: same pro as Troy Brentson because they're all the same.

2712
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 10: So like that, that's how I feel.

2713
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 4: Give me a receiver with a young quarterback.

2714
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 2: We'll show. We'll end the show with Boston Cream on

2715
01:56:57,800 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 2: the line. What's up, Boston Cream?

2716
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 20: Oh yawn, just woke up from another legendary Todd call.

2717
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 19: Thanks thought.

2718
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 3: Oh wow wow.

2719
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 2: If you are listener listener crime, we love it. Wow All.

2720
01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 20: I'm sorry if I offended you on Twitter. I saw

2721
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 20: the Miller light, I saw the sopranos.

2722
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 4: I had to put them together.

2723
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 3: My question is what is the trade?

2724
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:23,879
Speaker 18: Quickly?

2725
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 20: What is the trade where.

2726
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 19: You have to move off the pick and move off

2727
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 19: from selecting a quarterback.

2728
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:33,360
Speaker 20: What's an unresistible trade three first round picks?

2729
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, something like that couple.

2730
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 4: I mean, and maybe even you know, like three real

2731
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 4: first round picks or switching spots is one of them?

2732
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 4: Three real first round picks. Yeah, it'd be hard to

2733
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 4: not do that.

2734
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would.

2735
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 10: I would think about it. On the other scenario, if

2736
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 10: it's three and eight for two future firsts twenty six,

2737
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 10: then I would. I would still I would definitely think

2738
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 10: about that too.

2739
01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 6: But yeah, if you're hard not to eat them with

2740
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 6: like a twenty twenty five first and a twenty twenty six,

2741
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:02,879
Speaker 6: like yeah, second even.

2742
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 10: It's just he also just it gives you that AMMO too,

2743
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 10: of like Brandon Ayuk if he comes available via trade

2744
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 10: or t Higgins is available, now you have AMMO from

2745
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 10: future years to go and give.

2746
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 6: That's a good point, is I think too often you

2747
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 6: just think about, well, then you have picks for the future,

2748
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 6: and it's like, no, those are actually capital that you

2749
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 6: can use like sooner than later.

2750
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 2: If you need to.

2751
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:23,280
Speaker 3: And that's the one thing, like they have the cap

2752
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 3: space and they have the high pick, but they.

2753
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 4: Don't have a lot of picks, right, you know high picks.

2754
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 3: They don't have the ammunition, so you only have you know, one, two, three,

2755
01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 3: So if you could somehow stockpile you know, a couple

2756
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 3: of first and a couple of seconds, that sort of

2757
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 3: quickens the pace.

2758
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks BK and thanks everyone. That'll be the show.

2759
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:48,320
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Speaker 3: Let's go places.

2764
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 2: All right, we will be back on Thursday with another edition.

2765
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 2: Anything going on Wednesday. We have a playbook tomorrow with

2766
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:10,280
Speaker 2: John Rook, and he's going to have Jeff Benedict on

2767
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 2: the show, the author of the Dynasty book and one

2768
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 2: of the producers of the documentary, so that'll be interesting.

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01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:25,840
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01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:27,160
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