WEBVTT - Going Bowling: Part 4

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Solid Verbal. Ill that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be happy for Dake, Ada State?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that? Whoo whoom?

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<v Speaker 1>And Dan and.

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<v Speaker 2>Tye welcome back to the Solid Verbal Boys, girls. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always from an

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<v Speaker 2>undisclosed location.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Dan Rubinstein. Sir, how are you? I

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<v Speaker 1>can disclose that I'm outside of Chicago. I am in

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<v Speaker 1>the suburbs. I'm all right. A lot has happened since

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<v Speaker 1>we last recorded. Okay, right, pause.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we are a show about honesty.

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<v Speaker 1>We are.

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<v Speaker 2>When we recorded last time, you were in la at

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<v Speaker 2>your old house where you grew up. Now you're making

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<v Speaker 2>your way back across the country eastward bound. Here you

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<v Speaker 2>are in Chicago, as I understand it, in the childhood

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom of your brother in law.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that correct? Yes, shout out to Blake. I am

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<v Speaker 1>in the childhood bedroom. I'm next to a CRT. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what it is? The CRTTV the cathode raid tube. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the tube monitor. Sure, and it's it's not a monor.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the full on like RCATV. There's a VHS player

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<v Speaker 1>built into it. It was convenient. Yes, no, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is like a definite fourteen year old boys bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Life is good. It's very cold. I just

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<v Speaker 1>tad about a food poisoning. I missed the West coastar

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<v Speaker 1>miss southern California. It was very nice. But I actually

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<v Speaker 1>really like it's cool to be inside in a warm

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<v Speaker 1>place when it's so cold outside. There is something that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cozy about that that I can appreciate. But

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the news last night and seeing that radar,

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<v Speaker 1>that Doppler tie, even living in New York, that was

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<v Speaker 1>whoof that? Was that new? Back up here for a second. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>food poisoning. Oh yeah, food poisoning. I mean we should

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<v Speaker 1>also my Hi. It is a college football show, ye hill.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of bowl games to recap and

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<v Speaker 1>to preview, including the biggest of them all, or I

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<v Speaker 1>guess up to the biggest of them all, and there

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<v Speaker 1>will be plenty of college football momentarily. But I may

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<v Speaker 1>have had food poisoning, and it may have come from

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<v Speaker 1>a mission style burrito in the mission in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>and man, food poisoning is I haven't had it in

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<v Speaker 1>a long, long time. No joke, tie, hot take right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's no joke. So hold on now, yeah again,

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<v Speaker 2>show about honesty. You had the battle food poisoning, and then,

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<v Speaker 2>as I understand it, you also fell down the stairs.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I was. I mean, as you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>after bad food poisoning, you might need to do some laundry. Tie,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was bringing laundry down at the in

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<v Speaker 1>law's place and wearing socks on a slick carpet and

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<v Speaker 1>wearing slick socks, and took a spell. I have not

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<v Speaker 1>fallen downstairs intly, I mean unintentionally, I guess, ever, thankfully

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<v Speaker 1>and hurt for a little bit. I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the athlete I once was.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I think I'm hearing here is that Dan Rubinstein?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Feldman body blow theory going on for you doing

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? After well, it's life. Life is dealing me a

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<v Speaker 1>physical hand here. But you know what, Ty, I'm here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a trooper. My streak continues. Well, it's good to

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<v Speaker 1>talk with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope everyone out there had a merry Christmas, happy honic,

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<v Speaker 2>a happy quantum whenever holiday suits you best thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us again for the rest of us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got We've got one show here in twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>that we must record because Dad mentioned a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>Big Bowl games to not only recap, but certainly preview

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<v Speaker 2>as we get into the playoff and the New year

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<v Speaker 2>six we're going to get into all of that momentarily.

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<v Speaker 1>Just checking in. Life is all right with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I don't want to be. Life is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better with me than it is with you, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Just making sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't had a chance to train again for

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<v Speaker 2>our big Ping pong matchup coming up on January sixth

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<v Speaker 2>at the live show.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't train either in La just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little over Thanksgiving, but not when I was just there.

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<v Speaker 2>But otherwise, yeah, I'm doing fine. On that note, Live

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<v Speaker 2>show tickets are going to go back on sale January

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<v Speaker 2>the second, at one pm. We'll post it on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll post it on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's pretty limited too. So if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in Atlanta after you know that your team is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be there, i'd grab them quickly, grab them quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>People have email that they're going to be coming down

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<v Speaker 2>either as part of the National Championship, like envoy or

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<v Speaker 2>just otherwise going to be in and around the area.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's some folks still figuring it out. As you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>I would make sure that you grab those quick January

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<v Speaker 2>second at one pm. We'll post it everywhere. We'll send

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<v Speaker 2>out another email all that business.

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<v Speaker 1>Just be on the lookout.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing that we tease we were cooking up

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<v Speaker 2>in the lab and now it's sort of official. But

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<v Speaker 2>more details on this will be forthcoming, we promise you.

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<v Speaker 2>But as everyone knows, there is a college football media day,

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<v Speaker 2>much like the Super Bowl Media Day, where the teams gather,

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<v Speaker 2>there are podiums, you go around, you ask questions. This year,

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<v Speaker 2>we will be at media Day as we have gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how many years in a row now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we will be broadcasting live throughout media Day from the

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<v Speaker 2>college football playoff Facebook Sports set. Yes, so a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a live broadcast that you can tune into

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<v Speaker 2>be part of ask questions through courtesy of our friends

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<v Speaker 2>over at Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll have fun with some players, maybe a coach

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<v Speaker 1>or two. We'll be over there, so it'll be lighthearted,

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<v Speaker 1>informative and you get to see tie in what I

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<v Speaker 1>can only assume to be pristine high definition.

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<v Speaker 2>So tend what more do you want? Yeah, baby, stay

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<v Speaker 2>tuned for more information on that front. Now on the

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<v Speaker 2>more pressing subjects, Daniel, Yes, I know you're on the

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<v Speaker 2>mend here from various malatees. Are you ready to go

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<v Speaker 2>into some bowl recaps.

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<v Speaker 1>And previews and the like? Yeah, we got a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive this bad boy mowers Gasparilla bawl. That's right, So

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<v Speaker 1>we have not sure why I played that sound.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not breaking news in the conventional sense here on

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<v Speaker 2>the solid verbal, But we've got a handful of bowl

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<v Speaker 2>games that we want to recap. Actually, I guess it's

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<v Speaker 2>more than just a small handful, maybe a dozen or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with the DXL Frisco Bowl. This one was

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<v Speaker 2>between Louisiana Tech and SMU. We cautioned folks in advanced

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<v Speaker 2>that just kind of a weird situation with Chad Morris leaving,

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<v Speaker 2>Sunny Dyke's coming in, maybe not the best scenario in

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<v Speaker 2>which to select SMU, even though for a while they

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<v Speaker 2>were favored. Here or low and behold Louisiana Tech fifty one,

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<v Speaker 2>SMU ten. In case you were wondering what the effect

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<v Speaker 2>might be of a weird coaching circumstance. SMU promptly committed

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<v Speaker 2>six turnovers, two of which went for pick sixes, in

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<v Speaker 2>route to losing by forty one points in the bowl game.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, Yeah, and my favorite receiver running back duo of

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<v Speaker 1>names in bowl season. I think I would have to

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<v Speaker 1>review it some more. But law tech or I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think law tech hates being called la tech

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<v Speaker 1>like tech people hate law tech? Okay, So Louisiana Tack,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're dual of running back receiver names Boston Scott

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<v Speaker 1>and Teddyville, which sounds like they're just in a frat at.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe let's see what frett could they be in Boston

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<v Speaker 1>Scott and Teddyville? Maybe at North Carolina? I don't know, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They both had terrific games for Louisiana Tack. And as

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, SMU, that was a struggle. Even Courtland Sutton,

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<v Speaker 1>even with his couple of nice catches, could not really

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<v Speaker 1>get anything going and to nobody's surprise, and I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you giving me the out two. Once it was announced

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<v Speaker 1>that Sunny Dykes would be the interim head coach, before

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to be the head coach. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>still win this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everybody who follows college football with really any amount

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<v Speaker 2>of seriousness had to look at that situation and say,

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<v Speaker 2>uh uh, maybe not the best idea to bring Sunny

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<v Speaker 2>Dykes in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I was. I was never going to alter plans

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<v Speaker 1>to watch this game. But I started watching this game

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<v Speaker 1>right before going out to dinner with my parents in

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<v Speaker 1>LA and saw how it started, Like, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're good here. Yeah, I think, I think, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I know how this one ends.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's move on to the bad Boy Mower's

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<v Speaker 2>Gasparilla Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Gasparilla. Temple wins twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight to three over FIU, and I got to say,

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<v Speaker 2>the most interesting aspect of this game for me was

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<v Speaker 2>not the fact that Temple actually caught me by surprise

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<v Speaker 2>in winning this game by twenty five points.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was going to be pretty damn close.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you hear what Jeff Collins said during the postgame celebration,

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<v Speaker 2>I did not please inform educate. Jeff Collins, first time

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<v Speaker 2>head football coach coach for Temple, took over after Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Ruhle left for Baylor. During the postgame celebration, he said, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>the ceiling for temple is the roof.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Michael Jordan had a similar quote about North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago, and in that case, people

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<v Speaker 2>tried to really dissect what it meant and what they

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<v Speaker 2>came to. The conclusion that they came to was that

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<v Speaker 2>because North Carolina football does not play in a dome

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<v Speaker 2>of any sort, the open air stadium meant that essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in this case, they played the game at Tropicana Field, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>That's a dome, and so I'm still searching a bit

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<v Speaker 2>for what Jeff Collins might have been referring to.

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<v Speaker 1>And isn't it sort of a dilapidated I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if the ceiling has ever leaked or tiles have fallen

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<v Speaker 1>like they did at the Kingdome, but not a great

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<v Speaker 1>roof to associate your team with. Just like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cheap drywall in that stadium. Yeah, impression. I I've

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<v Speaker 1>never been.

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<v Speaker 2>But anytime you build a baseball field in which players

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<v Speaker 2>can hit the lights with a pop fly, generally there's

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<v Speaker 2>like a logistical issue there that needed to be further examined.

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<v Speaker 1>The better news is that Temple was awesome against FIU's

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<v Speaker 1>passing offense, and they stopped the run really well. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really nice defensive performance to go out on for

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<v Speaker 1>the Owls going into next year. Moving on, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Bahamas Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's the Ohio Bobcats win this one, forty one to

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<v Speaker 2>six over the UAB Blazers.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>Youa be a good story. A couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 2>the program was dead dead is adorn. They came back,

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<v Speaker 2>they were in a bowl. We both liked Ohio here

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<v Speaker 2>though a fair amount because they'd been really good this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Nathan Rourke, huge game, Drian Brown very nice game

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<v Speaker 1>to go out on on the ground, had had a

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<v Speaker 1>huge day there. Poppy White a name I'm just learning

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<v Speaker 1>for probably the second time for Ohio. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>nice day catching balls for the Bobcats. But a quietly

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<v Speaker 1>very good year for Ohio. And even with the great

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<v Speaker 1>story that is UAB, and I think Bill Clark should

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<v Speaker 1>gotten a little more attention at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>season with what he was able to do with the Blazers.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice one for Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, famous Idaho Potato Bowl Wyoming thirty seven, Central Michigan fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I had the question before this game, is Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 2>gonna play? Josh Allen, the all world everything quarterback for Wyoming.

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<v Speaker 1>He did play.

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<v Speaker 2>He was back from the injury. He looked pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he looked healthy. Wyoming won the game by

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty healthy margin. And then he declared for the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL Draft, So he is taking his talents to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the meantime, though, nice win for the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>here I was on the Central Michigan train. Didn't work

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<v Speaker 2>out quite as well for our boys. Sugar Sheene Morris

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<v Speaker 2>with four interceptions I think yep, but yeah, twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>point w for the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Wyoming and once again Wyoming rightfully came into the season

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<v Speaker 1>with the story being Josh Allen, and even with his

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<v Speaker 1>mostly down year for both reasons that he could and

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't control, Wyoming's defense was a pretty great story. They

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<v Speaker 1>forced a ton of turnovers. Carl Granderson, not just the

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<v Speaker 1>Pisman finalists, but also just a very very good player.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a converted receiver at defensive end led this

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<v Speaker 1>this Cowboy defense, which was pretty stout all year long

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<v Speaker 1>after the non conference part of their schedule. So Wyoming

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<v Speaker 1>another another really dominant defensive performance in their bowl game.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Craig bowl slowly but surely. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't realize how down and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of unexciting this Wyoming program was when he got there.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Christensen didn't leave it in a spot and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>winning eight games, turning this defense into something pretty special.

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<v Speaker 2>Great job his head, the shape of the Oregona, just

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<v Speaker 2>like sir, all right. The Birmingham Bull was a fun game.

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<v Speaker 2>South Florida wins thirty eight to thirty four. Quinton Flowers,

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<v Speaker 2>my boy, Yes, sir, he threw a touchdown pass with

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen seconds left that lifted the Bulls over Texas Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>Flowers had three to eleven passing and four touchdowns, also

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<v Speaker 2>a Bucks six on the ground and another touchdown. It'll

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting to see how USF fares next year. Because

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<v Speaker 2>Flowers is gone. They lose some other skill position guys,

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<v Speaker 2>something like eight starters on defense. It'll be interesting to

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<v Speaker 2>see what Charlie Strong does down there. But sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a blase way to go out if you're Texas Tech

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<v Speaker 2>and Cliff Kingsbury, remember a bit on the hot seat.

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<v Speaker 2>They gave him a vote of confidence. Yes, he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back for another season. You'll lose a game like this

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<v Speaker 2>though it was closely contested, kind of a dud way

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<v Speaker 2>to go out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they lost to a good team. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't lose to an average MAC team or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. They lose to a now ten and two

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<v Speaker 1>USF team who had a nice season. Didn't beat anybody

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<v Speaker 1>of consequence really, I guess maybe until Texas Tech. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>really good first season for Charlie Strong. And even with

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech losing this game, they finished the year beating Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a note that will remain through the offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armed Forces Bowl, Dan, Army forty two, San Diego

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<v Speaker 2>State thirty five, come back, you're gonna have a shootout?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not be in the Armed Forces Bowl?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan? Yeah, maybe one of the better games will see

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<v Speaker 2>all Bowl season. I don't even know where to start

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<v Speaker 2>with this one. The game itself, I would say, was

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<v Speaker 2>aggressively on brand for both.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams combined thirteen pass attempts.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what Army wants to do. They want to

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<v Speaker 2>run you to death with their option. They want to

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<v Speaker 2>hold the ball for as long as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Accomplished on that front.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel forty six minutes of possession for the Black Knights.

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<v Speaker 2>They ran sixty one more plays than San Diego State.

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<v Speaker 2>More than anything. I think that's what wanted for him,

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<v Speaker 2>because they couldn't stop for Shot Penny when he got

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<v Speaker 2>the damn ball right, they were just able to really

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<v Speaker 2>hold it, really play their game for the vast majority

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<v Speaker 2>of this one. They score with eighteen seconds left, they

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<v Speaker 2>go for two, they end up getting it. That gave

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<v Speaker 2>them a thirty six to thirty five lead. They score

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<v Speaker 2>a touchdown on the last place. San Diego State tried

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<v Speaker 2>one of those multipilateral plays that ended up being returned

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<v Speaker 2>for a touchdown. So a good close game, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of points, and really just a lot of fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, really nice season for Army and Amad Bradshaw, A

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<v Speaker 1>nice game against San Diego State, a good San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>State defense, And you're right, this was just these two

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<v Speaker 1>teams playing to their exact identities. San Diego State's entire

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<v Speaker 1>offense all year was big, rashod Penny plays and questionable

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<v Speaker 1>passing from Chapman and Army much the same controlling the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would say, all things considered, even with allowing

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<v Speaker 1>as much as they did to her Shad Penny. A

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<v Speaker 1>pretty decent defensive performance from Army when it mattered against

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<v Speaker 1>in big moments, I would say fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>The dollar general Bull app State thirty four mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>Toledo nil.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Zip got thirty Daniel, Yeah, what is this? So

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<v Speaker 1>this is the game that instructed me to look for

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<v Speaker 1>something in terms of a pattern in Bowl games because

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<v Speaker 1>we came into this game thinking, well, Logan wouldside is

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<v Speaker 1>the clear best thing about this game in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>pure talent and excitement and explosion. He has a completely

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<v Speaker 1>worthless game. Throws three picks, can't get anything going downfield.

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<v Speaker 1>And app State, even as you know how I love

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<v Speaker 1>my app State, they're the team I can't break up with.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're more like TCU and Ole miss to you

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<v Speaker 1>are like college sweethearts, longtime girlfriend that is always still

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<v Speaker 1>checking their Facebook pages, still friends, yes, yeah, App State.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it's just like a crush that just nagging.

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<v Speaker 1>It won't go away. And they struggled at points this season.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't the same Sun Belt team they've been in

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<v Speaker 1>years past, But for them to shut out this Toledo offense,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, not a good Bowl season for the

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Outside of the all just not no, and app

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<v Speaker 1>State comes down just defensively shuts down everything the Rockets

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<v Speaker 1>try to do. Taylor Lamb has a nice game, They're

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<v Speaker 1>good on the ground with Jalen More. Just that the

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<v Speaker 1>app State team we thought we'd see more of this

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<v Speaker 1>year and they finished with nine wins, another good year.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Logan Woodside was Florida quarterback bad in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes he was. That's very mean, but not false.

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<v Speaker 2>His QBR, according to ESPN, was nine point six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which if you're not fully in the loop on what

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<v Speaker 2>QBR means, you're not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not a good number. Correct. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge second quarter, yeah for app State And yeah, Logan

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<v Speaker 1>Woodside huge disappointment in this game, not the way he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go out for Fort Toledo. But here's the

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<v Speaker 1>other cool thing that I discovered thanks to this game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so hold on now pause.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you started to look a little bit deeper

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<v Speaker 2>into things after after seeing the result of this one.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that mean? So basically I looked at the result

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<v Speaker 1>of this game that it was so lopsided, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>is there's something going on here with bowl games? With

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<v Speaker 1>bowl season in terms of patterns in terms of picking games,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything that can speak to the results we've seen?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm talking first game on up? So what whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the first what was the first game Troy, North Texas

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, post celebration ball whatever. And basically, if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at yes, ty the danalytics okay, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the probably much better almost assuredly much better S and

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<v Speaker 1>P plus metric that Bill Connolly and Football Outsiders Football

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<v Speaker 1>Study Hall does. Basically, if we are in agreement that

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<v Speaker 1>bowl games, especially early on, when it's not necessarily lopsided,

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<v Speaker 1>but the teams come from two very different conferences or geographies,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever situations. You know, this team doesn't have a coach, team,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, their quarterbacks deciding to sit out of the running.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's all these sort of variables involved in

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<v Speaker 1>especially these early games. Then what if there's a thread

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<v Speaker 1>that would help you pick, If there's a metric and

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out if bowl games are about effort, do

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<v Speaker 1>we agree sort of caring, getting up for it, motivation, effort, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And you could say the same thing about defense that

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking, teams that play good defense beyond talent, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the most important thing, I would argue it's the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of caring play to play effort, you know, motivation, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns out the team with the better S

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<v Speaker 1>and P plus defense or points per drive defense. So

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<v Speaker 1>part of the d analytics, which by the way, that

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<v Speaker 1>is not a metric that I invented, is now through

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<v Speaker 1>all of the games that have happened through I guess Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty sixth, we're recording this on the twenty seventh.

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<v Speaker 1>Straight up are fourteen and three. Okay, that's not bad. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not bad. In terms of looking at straight up

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<v Speaker 1>and the game, I think San Diego State had a

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<v Speaker 1>better defense than Army and that was close the UAB ohiogame.

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<v Speaker 1>I think UAB had a better S and P plus defense,

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<v Speaker 1>But all in all, the team that has the more

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<v Speaker 1>consistent defense and the better performing defense, I think Northern

0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Illinois has a much better defense. Are a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>better defense than Duke, and that didn't work out for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteen and three not bad, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at my other picks here for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the show, and I played. I think I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be okay by that metric.

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<v Speaker 1>I have the points per drive ranking, ready to go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. Yeah, for the rest of our games, we're picking.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple other ones very quickly. Three more before we

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<v Speaker 2>get to those picks. The Hawaii Bowl, they played this one,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe on Christmas Eve. Fresno wins over Houston by

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty three to twenty seven score. An incredible turnaround

0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:51.400
<v Speaker 2>story for Fresno led by Jeff Tedford. Keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 2>Fresno went one and eleven a year ago. Now they

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<v Speaker 2>go ten and four. They only lose five starters next season.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so curious to see which direction that program heads.

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<v Speaker 2>On the Houston side, at Oliver, the all world everything

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<v Speaker 2>defensive tackle did have a touchdown run for Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of fun fact touchdown. Yes, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you hit everything. A really cool bounce back season for

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<v Speaker 1>Fresno State to get back to a pretty respectable and

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<v Speaker 1>decent level. They finished. You know, the numbers really liked

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.119
<v Speaker 1>them this year. Marcus mcmaray and the Oregon State transfer

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<v Speaker 1>had a nice year. Their secondary was really really good,

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<v Speaker 1>that the team was led by their defense, and Houston

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have really bad losses this year. They were not

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<v Speaker 1>that far away from being a nine to ten win team.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the story here was Fresno, their defense, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and the job that Jeff Tedford and his staff have

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<v Speaker 1>done right away, and the San Joaquin Valley.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Okay, the Zaxby's Heart of Dallas bull. Utah

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<v Speaker 2>wins by a thirty to fourteen score over West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been informed here in the year piece that the

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<v Speaker 2>boys in the truck have some music cueued up, Daniel.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk a little bit about what West Virginia's drive

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<v Speaker 2>chart looked like, shall we.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like nothing more West Virginia against Utah. Punt punt, punt,

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<v Speaker 1>field goal, punt, punt, punt, punt, field goal, punt, fumble, punt, interception, Hey, touchdown, innerception. Rough,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the holiday reference. Here's the snow time since we

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<v Speaker 1>last did it. I have not practiced. That was on

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<v Speaker 1>right on, que I can feel it, Ty, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>at my level of hating, you can just feel the crescendo.

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<v Speaker 1>Common we've talked, which was what she said, right, We've

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<v Speaker 1>talked off air about how one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we both admire in the radio business is the FM

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<v Speaker 1>radio DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can perfectly time his vocal lead in.

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<v Speaker 1>I do that sometimes, Ty, when I'm listening to music

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<v Speaker 1>like on Spotify something. Yeah, just like try it on

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<v Speaker 1>your own. I will one hundred I do that in

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<v Speaker 1>the car. My wife hates it, my brothers hate it,

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.040
<v Speaker 1>my parents hate it because that's the serious XM voice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's one and the same where it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>Aerosmith A ninety two point four k bb. I. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a drive somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It was during one of our national championship trips where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not kidding, Dan and I did that for about

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<v Speaker 2>forty five minutes strong.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite. Might have been a yeah. Anyway, where

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<v Speaker 1>were we here?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Utah, West Virginia thirty to fourteen. West Virginia looked

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a tire fire in this game. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it was entirely unexpected. Thankfully, Will Griar didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play still healing up. Good for him, get healed up

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<v Speaker 2>for next season. I don't have much else to add

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that.

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<v Speaker 1>On their first so on their punt drives, Ty, so

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<v Speaker 1>there were I'm counting here, nine punts. How many of

0:23:56.280 --> 0:24:00.400
<v Speaker 1>those drives? Do you think? We're three and out? Eight

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<v Speaker 1>of ninety eight of nine. Yeah for three and out

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:07.239
<v Speaker 1>it was it was rough. No Will Greer and by

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.639
<v Speaker 1>the way, shout out Kyle Whittingham. Now I think eleven

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and one in Bowl games. Yeah, the most successful Bowl

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 1>coach of all time. I guess of coaches who've coached

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>more than six or seven.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, the Quick Lane Bowl Duke wins thirty six

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 2>to fourteen over NIU.

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Where was this NIU defense that I was talking about?

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't I didn't see any defense in this game.

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:31.160
<v Speaker 1>No, no, not not much.

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Sutton Smith was largely contented. Actually, it was the Duke

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 2>defense that came to play here. NIU was one of

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 2>twelve on third downs, ozho of six on fourth downs.

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess the bright spot is that they went for

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 2>it six times on four down fourth downs. Yeah, which

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 2>is always exciting, but it'd be better if you got

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 2>one or two of them.

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 1>I watched a good chunk of this game, and Northern

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Illinois was in the I'm losing this game of Madden

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 1>or NCAA, so whatever, I'm just I'm hitting why when

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.359
<v Speaker 1>I should be hit next? On the play call screen,

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 1>just bombed every play bomb bomb bomb bomb fake punts

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>from your own end zone. I don't know if you

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>saw that moment, but that was it was just magnificent

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 1>tie it was. It wasn't even ballsy. It was just like,

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>screw it, screw everything, I'm going out. I'm taking everybody

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 1>out with me. The bunch through a terrible pass Uh,

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 1>Northern Illinois did not acquit itself.

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones was fine. He didn't throw downfield all that much,

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 1>but he completed a bunch of passes. Ran well, I

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>am so complexed by Daniel Jones this year. Yeah, took

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>a step back, definitely took a step back, and he

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:43.679
<v Speaker 1>is step back. He is basically if if Sam Darnold

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>had like a little cousin who grew up idolizing him.

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm just gonna do exactly what he does,

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>but without exactly the same level of talent, where He's

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 1>just gonna I'm gonna throw three dope passes and then

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.879
<v Speaker 1>throw something that you have no idea what I was

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>thinking about, Like, I'm thinking about that steam Willie Homer

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:03.919
<v Speaker 1>Simpson thing while throwing a pass. That was the Daniel

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Jones experience in twenty sixteen.

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 2>And finally the Cactus Bowl, Kansas State wins thirty five

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 2>to seventeen over UCLA. Now, interesting factoid in this one. Yeah,

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Josh Rosen apparently advised by his doctors not to play

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 2>in this game. You know, he suffered that concussion later

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 2>in the year. I'm a skeptic. Maybe that was true.

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was like convincing your doctor you have glaucoma.

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not sure, wow, Ty, what the exact scenario

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 2>was here. Either way, I do not blame him for

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 2>not playing in the Cactus Bowl, whether he was hurt

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 2>or not. I would expect that he will declare shortly

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 2>for the NFL Draft. Clearly this wasn't the way that

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>UCLA wanted to close out at season, but there are

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of moving parts there with the new coach

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.919
<v Speaker 2>Ship Kelly Charles Ship Kelly coming on board here.

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would say that it is much more likely

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>that Josh Rosen did in fact have an injury, and

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>it was not unfair to be overly precautious with a

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>head injury. With a brain injury, sure ahead of a

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>game like this, with you know, a future of playing

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, I think it was sort of a

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>good mix of good reasons not to play in this game,

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>especially given the coaching change, I don't really think that

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>had much to do with it. I will say this though,

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Josh Rosen I thought spoke super well about not criticizing

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>players not playing in bowl games before this game. I

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>thought he made a lot of I love good points

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>that it's easy to sort of from Afar and ty

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Lord knows we say a lot of things. From Afar,

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I did not excuse what we say at all. But

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you don't know the personal situations of

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 1>players deciding to skip games, whether it's a health reason,

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:52.400
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a financial reason that they want to stay

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>with the team, they want to play in Bowl games,

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>but you know they have a financial situation where going

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>to the NFL and not jeopardize in their draft stock

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>makes just a little bit more sense instead of playing

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.120
<v Speaker 1>in the line look the bad boy Mower's Gasparilla Bay

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>something like that.

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Completely fine with him not playing. I believe that's why

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.959
<v Speaker 2>only one member of the broadcasting duo had the audacity

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 2>and really the foresight to say that if Josh Rosen

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>came down with something before this game, it wouldn't surprise me.

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't blame him at all for not playing. I'm

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 2>just a bit of a skeptic here, because hey, I

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>called it and it seemed like it was a little

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 2>too convenient. I hope it works out well for him.

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 2>The one thing that scares me a little bit with

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Rosen now is he moves on to the NFL. He's

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>a really sharp cookie, really smart guy. He strikes me

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to make a golf reference here, which

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>please try not to squirm, but.

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Reminds from Manhattan Beach. That's fine.

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Reminds me a little bit of like when Tiger Woods

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 2>decided he wanted to try and tinker with his swing,

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>or what's the guy Bryson d. Chambeau who's trying to

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 2>reinvent the golf swing. There's going to be a moment

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>in Josh Rosen's career where he thinks he's figured out

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>some entirely new way to go about something, and that

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 2>may or may not work on the NFL level.

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I think he'll be fine. I thought the worst, you know.

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I tweeted something about his career in general, that it

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>would have been nice to see him in a more

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>stable place, because I think he had three different offensive

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>coordinators and a defense that swung from really good in

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen to just completely embarrassing in twenty seventeen, and

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.959
<v Speaker 1>that continued against Kansas State where they allowed nearly three

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty yards rushing in the Cactus Bowl. That

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>it would have been cool to see Josh Rosen in

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a more stable place, And ultimately, I think the worst

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>decision Josh Rosen made at UCLA was deciding to go

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to UCLA probably and to sort of you know, there

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>are stories about how he sort of turned off Stanford's

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff and they didn't really want to offer him

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>or accept his commitment, and that, you know, I think

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I think his career would have looked. It would not

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>have ended with a lower draft pick or a higher

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>draft pick, because he's probably gonna go in the top three,

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>but we would have been able to see Josh Rosen

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>in a more state place, behind a more stable line

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>with Christian McCaffrey and Bryce Love. You know, it's a

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>sort of what could have been if if everything had

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>worked out with that situation.

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 2>And yep, one final point on the Cactus Bowl. Still

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>awaiting word on the future for Bill Snyder. We don't

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>know what his deal is going to be moving forward

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 2>as head football coach k State obviously very successful. Nice

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>way to go out winning team against UCLA in a

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 2>fun bowl game.

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>But we will wait and see what the future holds

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>there really weird and ultimately fun. I guess season for

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Kansas State. I mean they held onto the ball a

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>ton against the Bruins and Alex Delton, Alex Barnes ran wild.

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I was watching this game with the in laws of

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>my father in law watching, you know, shout out to

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Joel obviously watching. I think it was an Alex Barnes

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>run in the second half where he just sort of

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>went untouched for thirty eight yards and my father in

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>law went, wait, where's the safety, so somebody should touch

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>him in the second level. No, no, that's not how

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>you see it. Defense works, and we'll see what happens

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>next year. I can only assume they've hired a very

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>good linebackers coach to get Nope, no, nope, nope, all right,

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>moving on, damn we got balls. The preview yes.

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>The week. Whoo, okay, this is going to be Bowl

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 2>preview officially number four here on the solid verbal.

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>We've timed this out.

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>We've scheduled this out in a way that we haven't

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 2>done in the past. We've done this now for ten

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 2>full college football seasons, and I can say definitively that

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>in none of those previous years have we ever previewed

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>bowl games in such a regimented and scheduled fashion.

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>We actually thought this through. We're full on grown ups. Ty, yeah,

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>we have matured to the point where we're able to

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>do this.

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>So let's let's get into dangerous territory now with your bullpicks. Okay,

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>we are officially in this arena now where hopefully you've

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 2>locked in, You've gotten the early games out of the way,

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 2>You've put most of your confidence points on those earlier games.

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Because the games that we're about to talk about are

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 2>the ones that I am least confident in. And it's

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 2>not because I don't know the teams as well. Actually

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I know these teams better, but it feels to me

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 2>like most of these matchups, with a couple exceptions, are closer.

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>They could go one way or the other.

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>We've got a lot of partly talented teams that we're

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 2>going to talk about here, not the least of which

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>is the two big playoff games, which we'll discuss last

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>here on the program. Let's start with the Goodyear Cotton

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Bowl Classic. They play this one in Arlington at AT

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 2>and T Stadium. It's on December the twenty ninth at

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 2>eight thirty pm on ESPN, and it's a big one.

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the games I'm most excited to see.

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 2>We've got the Ohio State Buckeyes. We've got the USC Trojans.

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State's a seven and half point favorite. Here, Dan,

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 2>what's our gift situation?

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>All right? Ty? So the Cotton Bowl Classic, the Goodyear

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Cotton Bowl Classic, Classics, the class the Classic. Now you

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>think Texas, you think everything's bigger in Texas. You know,

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>bigger bowl sweet bigger gifts. You know we draw attention food. Yes,

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>of course we want to show that we're the biggest

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and best. The Cotton Bowl is not disclosing, really their

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>gift situation, as per Sports Business Journal, not disclosed. Wow,

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Which why I hope there's a lot of bluetooth. I

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>hope there's a lot of sweat wicking fabrics. I don't know.

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Cotton doesn't wick away the sweat, It absorbs it. It

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 2>makes you cold when you sweat.

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>And maybe they're embarrassed by that tie. Maybe they're embarrassed.

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's something good. I'm sure US Ohio State,

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, the scrappy little underdogs finally get a break

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>and get something good gift wise. But nope, there's no

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>disclosure of bowl gifts.

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 2>So Shaye Patterson, Okay, Yeah, moving on to the actual game.

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I look, I worry.

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I always worry about picking against a team that feels

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 2>like it has something to prove in a bowl game.

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 2>To your earlier point about motivation, what drives a bowl team?

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 2>And I know USC he might fall a little bit

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>into that category. But Ohio State this year. Dog, If

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 2>they don't define it, I don't know who does.

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Really well, yeah they I understand they disappointed they're not

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>in the playoff.

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Sure they won the Big Ten, they were passed over

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>for the College Football Playoff. They got a senior quarterback

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:42.800
<v Speaker 2>in JT. Barrett who has been perpetually disrespected as a

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>starter for his team. Clearly he's going to be motivated.

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 2>This is like his last hurrah. He's not going to

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 2>be playing quarterback in the NFL. Hate to break the

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 2>news to folks out there, But most importantly, I think

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 2>they've got an offense that's going to push on all

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 2>the pressure points of this SC defense. S played a

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 2>team all year with an offense that can beat you

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 2>seventeen different ways like Ohio State can't. They also haven't

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>played a defense this good, which will be an interesting

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 2>challenge for Sam Darnold. But I think the combination of

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 2>motivation with scheme, which what I think is a big

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:20.919
<v Speaker 2>time coaching mismatch in Urban Meyer versus Clay Hilton, there's

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot that goes in Ohio State's favor here. The

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>fans will travel, well, there's a lot of Ohio State

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 2>people down there to begin with, so I'm going to

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 2>go Ohio State here. Again, not a ton of confidence

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 2>points in any of these games, only four for me,

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 2>but I like Ohio State here and I'm pretty confident

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 2>about it.

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a shame this year just in looking

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>back at USC specifically that they didn't have an opportunity

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to play against Washington because their wins were you know,

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Stanford twice, which is very good. It was not a

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>great Stanford team, but that's good. They beat Utah, But

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>outside of that, there wasn't much in the way of

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 1>like a top fifty, top sixty win for this USC team. Defensively,

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I think a little bit to be desired. I didn't

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>love their secondary at times they weren't great against the run.

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>But offensively, you know, you have Sam Darnold, who, in

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>terms of outside of Baker Mayfield, the ceiling of playmaking was,

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, extremely high up. There's no question that you know,

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>when he had to roll out of the pocket and

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>look downfield, he was able to make plays that a

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of quarterbacks are just flat out unable when he's

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>not throwing picks. There's a ton of talent in the

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>backfield with Stephen Carr and the Texas Tesla Ronald Jones,

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>But against a team like Ohio State, I don't see

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot I love. I think Ohio State's defensive line

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 1>can overwhelm USC's offensive line. I don't love the fact

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that Ohio State, when they're just smart and give it

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.240
<v Speaker 1>to JK. Dobbins, which is the smartest possible thing Ohio

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:51.399
<v Speaker 1>State can do, dominated everybody and looked like a playoff team,

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>where USC at times, even in wins, you know, a

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>close win against Utah with their backup quarterback at home.

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I like USC a bunch, but I think the the

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>talent differential on Ohio State's defense against USC's offense. And

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I know USC has receivers that have improved. The younger

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>guys Tyler Vaughan, Stephen Mitchell, those guys improved over the

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 1>course of the season. I don't know how they get

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 1>loose against Ohio State's defense consistently. So Ohio State with

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the better points per drive defense tie and that's it's

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>by a considerable margin. I'm taking them to win the

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Cotton Bowl. And here's the big controversy. Yeah, I'll say

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>controversial thing. Ty I think Ohio State breaks their scoreless

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>streak in the postseason. What I think they do? I

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>think they break that streak. I don't think they go

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>two years in a row of not scoring a single

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 1>point in the postseason. Wow, I'm out on that, LIMB

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:42.959
<v Speaker 1>check me off. How many confidence points are you putting

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 1>on this? Not a lot? Uh low? Teens? Twelve, thirteen, Wow,

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>somewhere on there. Okay. I like Sam Darnold. I like

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>what he was able to, you know, raise his game

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>up to last year against Penn State, but that was

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>in the Rose Bowl. I don't think this USC team

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>is as good as it was last year on offense.

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to Ohio State.

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Here we agree, go to the tax Slayer Bowl.

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, who's up for slaying some taxes? Oh that's a

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>loaded question, ty.

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Ever bank Field in Jacksonville, Florida. They play this one

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>on December the thirtieth at high noon. It's on ESPN.

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 2>We've got Loulville a six and a half point favorite

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 2>over in Mississippi State. Several alerts that I need to

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 2>mention to all y'all.

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>But before we do, what are our gifts here? What's

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 1>our gift situation?

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Dan?

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>The tax Layer Bowl has generally has generously excused me.

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Decided to gift people with Oh, the Cold War still

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>rages on. Well, there's a gift suite, no idea. What's

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>in the gift suite? Fossil Watch, so a shot across

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the bow obviously early on in our Bowl preview against Timely,

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>so the Fossil Watch in this one.

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 2>There are some other watch companies getting in on the

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 2>fun here.

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:56.879
<v Speaker 1>There's a blow.

0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I did notice that, Yeah, the Cold War, the watch

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Cold War. So we've got a whoop whoop new coaching alert. Yes,

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 2>and that Dan Mullen left Mississippi State for Florida. Joemo

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Joe Morehead, coming over from Penn State, will not be

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>coaching the bowl game, not pulling the sunny Dikes. We've

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 2>also got whoop whoop injured star quarterback alert in Nick Fitzgerald.

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:25.280
<v Speaker 2>You might remember he had that ugly dislocated ankle injury

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 2>in the Egg Bowl for Mississippi State, so he ain't

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 2>playing this one either. I don't think there's much need

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 2>to overthink this one, Dan. I do like Mississippi State's defense.

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 2>They played pretty well on that side of the football

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.879
<v Speaker 2>all year. But I think, like any other game, Lamar

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:44.919
<v Speaker 2>Jackson gonna have like four hundred total yards. I think

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna jump all over Mississippi State, and it's going

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 2>to be tough for Mississippi State to really score with

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals in this one. So I think louis the

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>wins comfortably going away. They cover six and a half,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 2>they win by fourteen. I like Louisville to the tune

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 2>of like twenty nine confidence points here.

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's right. Yeah. The injured quarterback Nick Fitzgerald

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>certainly was a huge piece or the biggest piece for

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>for Mississippi State. And the fact that we have an

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>interim staff, the fact that I don't think we love

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 1>this Mississippi State defense, even you know, up front, there's

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.399
<v Speaker 1>there's a good amount of talent with with Sweat Green

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and Jeffrey Simmons, and they were good. They took a

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of chances with Todd Grantham, who's also you know,

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>his head and I don't know if he's coaching this game,

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 1>but he's moving on to Florida. Gave up a lot

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>of big plays and Louisville is a big play team.

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 1>And even though this is what worries me ty because

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the defensive pick factor, Louisll's defense is significantly worse than

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi State's and Mississippi State's defense, albeit coaching staff and

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 1>quarterback are gone, their their defenses is relatively intact. And

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Louisville's best win best win was perdue. They lose to

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a pretty decent and okay Boston College team, Yes plucky,

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know you like that word. Yeah, it's a

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.879
<v Speaker 1>good word. Louisll's offense was great even with the bad

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>field position that the defense put them in. It was

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>an all Lamar Jackson team.

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 2>We've got we've got competing theories here at play because

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 2>there's no coach, new coach theory against your newly christened

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>analytics points per drive a loud thing.

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, It's it's basically the abstract versus the tangible.

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you go with Mississippi State here outright, and

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll go with Lowellville and we'll we'll put this to

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 2>the test once and.

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>For all right. I'm going to Mississippi State because I

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>like the defense. All Right, we disagree.

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:37.439
<v Speaker 2>The AutoZone Liberty Bowl, dan They played at Liberty Bowl

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Stadium in Memphis, Tennessee.

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been to an AutoZone? Yeah, I've gotten

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:41.839
<v Speaker 1>in the zone. Tie.

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I was at an AutoZone a couple months back when

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 2>my rear tail light went out and I decided on

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the Sunday morning that I me, of course, being the

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 2>gearhead that I am, I was going to check it

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 2>over there to the nearest AutoZone, get in the zone

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 2>and get my new my new tail light. They promptly

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 2>gave me the wrong model, dan Ah. Not only did

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 2>it not fit in the light socket, but after I

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 2>forced it in there, broke it and tried to start

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 2>up the car and pump on the pump on the brakes,

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 2>it didn't light up.

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Is this an extended Memphis defense metaphor? Is that what

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>it could be? We're in for Okay, I'm because I'm

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 1>here for it times I am here for it. Okay,

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>what are we doing?

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Twelve December thirtieth, excuse me at twelve thirty, twelve thirty

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>at twelve thirty, if you will, on ABC, We've got

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the Memphis Tigers, a three and a half point favorite,

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 2>basically a home game against the Iowa State Cyclones, the

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>darling of yours truly, the Iowa State Cyclones. I'm seeing

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 2>here a bass, pro shops shopping trip, a Belova Caravel, watch,

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Nike athletic shoes, sports sandals and backpack, and a football.

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 2>That's not a bad selection right there.

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>That feels pretty good. If you're into like an outdoors

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>way of life. You get the best pro shops, shopping

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>spree whatever. You get the watch, you get some Nikes,

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 1>that's great, some sandals I wish I forgot my sandals.

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I like wearing sandals around the house, sports sandals, backpack,

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you got football. It's pretty good. You get to be

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.399
<v Speaker 1>on network television. Yeah, that's great.

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Every number I could find for this game was screaming

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 2>for me to take Memphis. Why mainly because of the offense. Okay,

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Iowa State's been my team all year, and you know

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.919
<v Speaker 2>they've had time to prepare for Memphis in the passing game.

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 2>They've been really good on defense all year. I think

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Matt Campbell's going to steer into his running game here

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.839
<v Speaker 2>with David Montgomery. I think they're gonna want to play

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of army ball here and do their

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 2>best to eat up the clock, keep it out of

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Memphis's hands, and just try to run the air out

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 2>of the football. I like Iowa State. I'm going to

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 2>stick with it. I'm going to go crazy to the

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 2>tune of twenty six confidence points. I'm going to take

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.399
<v Speaker 2>them out right. I'd imagine this also plays nicely into

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 2>your d analytics theory.

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 1>It does play nicely in the analytics. And Memphis had

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a spectacular leader spectacular year, excuse me, all things considered,

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>second year with Mike Norvel. They beat UCLA, which UCLA

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't have the greatest season, but this is of course

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 1>early September Ucla, and anytime you beat a big name

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Power five program at Memphis, that's a big deal. They

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>beat Houston. They lose to a clear top ten team

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>twice in UCF. Their offense was nothing short of terrific,

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:40.280
<v Speaker 1>a ton of explosive plays through the air. Riley Ferguson

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Miller is probably one of the best three quarterback

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>to receiver duos in the country just in terms of

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 1>production and excitement. They were good on the ground, generating

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>bigger plays. They weren't particularly efficient running the ball. I

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't love the Memphis defense with how much they were

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>able to just allow through the air. But Iowa State,

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and you talk about team that has faced top level quarterbacks,

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 1>beaten top level quarterbacks, beating Oklahoma, TCU, Texas Tech, you know,

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.439
<v Speaker 1>a couple of not great but okay losses to West

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Virginia and Kansas State. Iowa State was They were a

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.239
<v Speaker 1>team that depended I wouldn't say depended on but they

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.359
<v Speaker 1>were particularly talented at turning the ball over, turning other

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 1>teams over. Specifically once they got to Kyle Kemp they

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>were better on offense from Jacob Park. Their run defense

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>was terrific, but you have to if you're gonna beat Memphis,

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you have to at least get some stops to the air.

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, get stops on third and six, whatever, and

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I think Iowa State is good enough to do that.

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.800
<v Speaker 1>The past defense wasn't the best thing they did, but

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 1>if they can force a couple turnovers, I think they're

0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 1>in a good position to win this game. I like

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Matt Campbell and this staff with time, I like the continuity.

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I know Memphis, I think they lose their offensive coordinator

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to Texas A and M. I don't know if he's

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.320
<v Speaker 1>here for this game, but certainly it could be a

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>factor in their preparation. So even though the game is

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>in Memphis at the Liberty Bowl, I'm gonna go Iowa

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 1>State here. I'm gonna go with that experience, with the

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>D analytics, with S and P plus, I'm going with

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the defense here. That I worry a little bit about

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Memphis in the same way I worry about UCF. That

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 1>are they a team that can win in different ways

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>if forced to? And I think I always say, can

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>slop up this game, give me the Clones. They're gonna

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 1>be unkempt unkemped boom. All right, let's move on to

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl. Dan, Yeah, they play this one

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>at the University of Phoenix, Stadium. This game really does

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 1>it for me, Ty, I am very excited for this.

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 2>You are here for the Glendale PlayStation Fiesta Bowl, Dan.

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I think this one of December thirtieth, four pm on ESPN,

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Penn State, my dear Alma mater, a two point favorite

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 2>over the Washington Huskies. You might guess what the gift

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 2>suite entails here in the PlayStation Wink link nudge nudge,

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Fiesta Bowl, Dan.

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you get a PlayStation four, right, that's what we're on.

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Four.

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 1>You get a PS four pro bundle. I don't know

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>what that involves. If you get like a like a

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 1>badge or a sash.

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you get maybe you get a second controller.

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you get a second controller. They don't have cables

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>anymore of these controllers, do they?

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 2>No? No, I mean you have to plug it in.

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I think to charge the charge. It got one of

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:18.760
<v Speaker 2>the high falutin chargers.

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I can tell you this much, Ti. I'm

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:25.280
<v Speaker 1>not getting a PS four until the NCAA series returns.

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought you had a PS four, Now I have

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:28.880
<v Speaker 1>PS three. Wow.

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 2>So this has been a silent protest side Well, that's

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 2>basically the only game I play.

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.320
<v Speaker 1>At one point I tried to get into FIFA, but

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.879
<v Speaker 1>I realized that I would have to spend a ton

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of time to get competent at FIFA, and so I'm

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>just I'm rolling with the NC DOUBLEA series whenever I'm back.

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm an avid FIFA player. I know I'm any good

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 2>at it at all, But you've put in time to

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 2>just get to be below average, right, I'm below average

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 2>is being very kind, but yeah, yeah, correct, that is correct.

0:47:57.600 --> 0:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So you get a PS four pro bundle. I

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that with a bunch of games or what.

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>You have a Fossil Watch. Okay, so double Fossil early

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and an Ogo backpack. I think that's a very good

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>And you get to go to Arizona. You have to

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 1>go to Washington. If you're Washington, you can sort of

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 1>make up for the last time you went to Arizona.

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 1>If you're penn State, you don't have to be in

0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 1>central Pennsylvania in what early January. That's great.

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 2>This is also the scene of the crime where Bill

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Hancock and I shared a giant bowl of Tostillo's chips.

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 1>That's true. Tostito's no longer I guess involved with the festival.

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Here's the great News too, and because we have a

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 1>special what kinship towards penn State fans alumni whatever, because

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:41.359
<v Speaker 1>you went there. Yeah, I can't assume I haven't really

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 1>gone searching for great food in Central Pa and State College.

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>But if you're going to this game, if you're from Seattle,

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>if you're from Washington, if you're from Central Pa, from

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>anywhere in Pennsylvania, the Northeast, great food, the greater Phoenix area,

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Austin Pizzeria Bianco, what was that? What was that Mexican

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.959
<v Speaker 1>place we went to? Remember we went to one place

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:04.800
<v Speaker 1>called tacos chioas we went to one place. Oh no,

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>we didn't go there. We went and got torta. Somewhere

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.279
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to go to tacos Chi was Chi

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 1>was or Las Santi Sema for tacos and Phoenix very

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>good pizza, Cleta PiZZ I, c l e. T t

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:21.440
<v Speaker 1>A good pizza as well too, Arizona and namely Phoenix

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:23.759
<v Speaker 1>secretly really good pizza place.

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is going to be a fun football game,

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 2>and if you do have the distinct pleasure of going

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.640
<v Speaker 2>to see it, please do send us pictures and let

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 2>us know what the weather's like.

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Out there. It's going to be better than it is here.

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Enjoy your time, Enjoy Dan this is I think this

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 2>is a poor man's version of Clemson versus Alabama.

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I'd say so, yeah, because what makes a.

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Game like this interesting is the contrasting styles that we're

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:51.280
<v Speaker 2>going to see at play. Penn State in the analogy,

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 2>would obviously be more like Clemson. They've got a lot

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 2>of the run pass option stuff, more wide open Washington

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot more like Alabama, a lot more like Alabama

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 2>from a couple of years ago before they had Jalen

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Hurts and Blake Simms. More of that pro style, vanilla offense, play,

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 2>bruising defense, that style of play. It'll be interesting to

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 2>see these two teams go at each other. I do

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:17.320
<v Speaker 2>want to circle back, though, to something you've been saying

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 2>all year about the Washington Huskies. We've sort of been

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 2>waiting for them to find another.

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Gear, Yeah, especially an offense. Yeah.

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like last year, you could feel a little bit

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 2>more confident that Washington was gonna go out there and

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:32.880
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna rip the arms and legs off somebody and

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>just beat the crap out of them. This year, it

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 2>felt like that component was missing.

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair. Yeah, they had decent wins, but

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, they beat Fresno, which you know more and

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 1>more looks like a good win. Was it was pretty

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:48.439
<v Speaker 1>good in terms of win. They beat Oregon. They killed

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Oregon without Justin Herbert, but they would have beaten them

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 1>with Justin Herbert anyway. They beat Utah. They lose to

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 1>ASU and Stanford, and the performances in those two games,

0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 1>especially against ASU on offense, it was a pretty disappointing

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 1>way to lose. I'd say fair to say, yeah, both

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 1>these teams, there actually is a good amount in common.

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 1>So in big games, both of these teams missed I

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>would say a big downfield threat receiver right and Chris

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Godwin and John Ross. Absolutely yeah, both both teams without

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:20.359
<v Speaker 1>their offensive coordinator. Joe Moore had gone, Jonathan Smith gone

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:23.800
<v Speaker 1>taking head coaching jobs at Power five schools. Sure, and

0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 1>led by I think maybe unexpectedly defensive performances. Jason Combinda

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:30.840
<v Speaker 1>was great, Marcus Allen had a great year in the

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:33.880
<v Speaker 1>secondary for Penn State. And when Washington was healthy, you know,

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>they have one of the best interior alignment in the

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:39.200
<v Speaker 1>country and Vita Vea the secondary went healthy albeit young,

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:42.759
<v Speaker 1>great couple of safeties. You know, Byron Murphy's healthy in

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:46.720
<v Speaker 1>this game, he should stick on somebody really well for Washington.

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.480
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot to like about these teams that

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:53.240
<v Speaker 1>are both dealing with I wouldn't say full on issues,

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:57.640
<v Speaker 1>but wrinkles concerns that are that are very similar. I

0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>would agree with that. I and really good run in

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Saquon Barkley and Miles Gaskin. Absolutely.

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of talk here about how Washington's defense

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 2>is going to give Penn State fits, and I can

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 2>see that. I think that's true to an extent, especially

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:16.759
<v Speaker 2>since you mentioned Penn State turning over their offensive coordinator

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Ricky Ronnie stepping in now for Joe Moorehead. He's going

0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 2>to be taking over play call duties, so there's always

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of an awkward transition when something like

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 2>that goes down. I really do think, though, that Penn

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 2>State's defense is going to be going to be the

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 2>X factor here. If they can bottle up Miles Gaskin,

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:38.759
<v Speaker 2>if they can force Washington to be more dependent on

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 2>the pass, I think that really favors them. I'm a

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Penn State alone. I gotta go with my heart here,

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I gotta Penn State. I don't know if I well,

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:51.240
<v Speaker 2>it's it two points. I gotta go Penn State outright

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 2>to the two of nine confidence points. But I think

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be an awesome game to watch.

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I think the best thing in this game is still

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 1>probably Washington's defense. On I think they're pretty healthy at

0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>this point. You know, getting the secondary back to where

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 1>it should be should help against a Penn State team

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>that really when they were playing their best, they were

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 1>throwing downfield, and Sequon Barkley helped, I think more as

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 1>an all purpose guy rather than a consistent ground thread

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 1>against the better defenses Penn State face. But still, this

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Penn State team was what the end of the Ohio

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>State game away from being in playoff consideration. So this

0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 1>was it was an excellent Penn State team about ninety

0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>four percent of the time, basically the Michigan State team

0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:34.759
<v Speaker 1>the Michigan State game nonwithstanding, I think though that the

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:38.799
<v Speaker 1>combination of Washington's defensive line, I really like Pete Kwakowski,

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the defensive coordinator for the Huskies. The fact that it's

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:44.839
<v Speaker 1>on the West Coast I think helps a little bit

0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 1>for Washington. The familiarity they're not traveled. I mean, you know,

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Penn State will be their days and days ahead of time.

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to be able to bottle up

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Saquon Barkley. I think they'll be able to get to

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>trace McSorley enough they won't contain him fully. But I'm

0:53:57.280 --> 0:53:59.160
<v Speaker 1>going to roll with what I think is the strongest

0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and most continuous part of this game, which is the

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Washington defense and their ability to get pressure with four guys.

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go Washington close here, and honestly, the

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:11.440
<v Speaker 1>whatever the D analytics s and P plus, it's nearly identical.

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Washington seventh, Penn State sixth, and Washington had a stronger

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I think, schedule outside of the conference whatever. So I'm

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:22.560
<v Speaker 1>going to go with the Huskies here. Wow, so we disagree,

0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>we disagree. Penn State had one big win. They beat Michigan.

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 1>They did beat Michigan.

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 2>That was the that was their win, all right, Umm,

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I gotta go Penn State outright, So what is the

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 2>real gain? Let's go to the Capitol One Orange Bowl, Dan,

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 2>What's in your wallet? In hard Rock Stadium, Miami, Florida.

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Also on December of the thirtieth, they played it at

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 2>eight pm on ESPN. We've got the Wisconsin Badgers. Badgers

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:52.280
<v Speaker 2>coming down from the northern part of the Great USA,

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:57.280
<v Speaker 2>a six and a half point favorite against the home town,

0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:02.319
<v Speaker 2>home dog, home team, Yeah, home team, Miami Hurricanes. Dan,

0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I noticed that there is a different kind of watch

0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I watch that I've never seen before.

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Now we've mentioned this brand before, I think we have.

0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they were at the Orange Bowl last year. I

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:16.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know. There's a gift suite. There's the Torneau watch

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 1>t o you are? Is that the former first baseman

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:23.040
<v Speaker 1>for the Minnesota Twins. Yeah, justin Torneau. Did you not

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:27.279
<v Speaker 1>know Life brand hat? But that's Life with a Why

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I look these up? They make a denim hat that

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:35.560
<v Speaker 1>says dad and has a rose on it. How does

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:37.759
<v Speaker 1>the Torneau watch look? Does that look at least? It's

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. Yeah, they're in Chicago, so there's that. There

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.320
<v Speaker 1>we go. I can go get one today if I

0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:46.760
<v Speaker 1>if I wanted to, and an ice shaker, water bottle

0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and shaker cup. Stay hydrated in Miami, Folks, How do

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you feel about this game? Dan? I think I like

0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin here. I think there's more to like about Wisconsin

0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:00.720
<v Speaker 1>at this point. You know, Miami without I'm on Richards.

0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:02.920
<v Speaker 1>We saw what that looked like against Clemson and a

0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 1>good defense, I mean great defense like Wisconsin also has

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I struggle with feeling super confident about it because it's

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a literal home game Iami. I changed my pick.

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I changed my pick.

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I once was where you are, Yeah, please educate me,

0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 2>And it dawned to me that this game was tearing

0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:24.720
<v Speaker 2>me apart.

0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, emotionally apt.

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 2>My gut is one hundred percent to go with Wisconsin

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:32.680
<v Speaker 2>because they're so good on defense. That is going to

0:56:32.680 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 2>be a real issue from Miami one way or another.

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:38.359
<v Speaker 2>But then you think about it and Okay, like you said,

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:41.200
<v Speaker 2>a literal home game from Miami on their home field,

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 2>big game city, big game town, big game team, they're

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:47.480
<v Speaker 2>going to be rocking a lot of home folks going

0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 2>to be at that game. Uh. Their defense is also

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:53.799
<v Speaker 2>pretty good m hm. And you might remember this little

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:57.240
<v Speaker 2>apparatus they call the turnover chain, right, I do remember

0:56:57.360 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 2>people been talking about it.

0:56:58.719 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 1>It's in the Smithsonian.

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Now. If there is anybody in college football who was

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:05.360
<v Speaker 2>born to add links to that chain, it might be

0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Alex Honybrook.

0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh does anybody who would know it would be somebody

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 1>who was forced to watch a lot of Brandon Wimbush.

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 2>The turnover chain could play a factor in the shootball game.

0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't like this pick at all, but I am

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 2>going to change it from Wisconsin eight confidence points to

0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Miami eight confidence points just because it's an on game

0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 2>and I struggled with it so much. I think there

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:38.800
<v Speaker 2>will be an added layer of motivation here, being that

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 2>it's at home.

0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go Miami. Do you think there's motivation

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>because they're at home or do you think there might

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:46.520
<v Speaker 1>be malaise? I think at home they're going to be rocking.

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 1>It's a night game. No, they're going to be rocking. See,

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it might. They were in the ACC Championship

0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:55.240
<v Speaker 1>and if they win that, they there's a good shot

0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 1>there in the playoff. They're not going it. They're not

0:57:57.640 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 1>going to the Rose Bowl. They're not going to the

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Sugar Bowl. They're not going Yes, you know there's not

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 1>They're just playing a home game.

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I know I'm changing my pick to Miami. I think

0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:08.520
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be an added layer of motivation.

0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, Miami has the better resume in beating

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Virginia Tech and Notre Dame, and you know, the win

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that Wisconsin has over FAU looks better and better it does.

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:20.800
<v Speaker 1>They beat Michigan surprisingly enough, they beat you know, our

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty decent Northwestern team. They lose to Ohio State close

0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:27.640
<v Speaker 1>in the Big Ten Championship game when they would lean

0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 1>on Jonathan Taylor's tailback. Of course, you know, he rushes

0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>for almost two thousand yards. I don't think that Wisconsin

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:37.520
<v Speaker 1>is going to try and throw the ball more than

0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 1>they feel they need to. I don't think they're going

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to be throwing into the teeth all that much into

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:46.400
<v Speaker 1>this Miami defense. You know, the defense is basically as

0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>good as anybody not in the playoff, if not better

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:52.280
<v Speaker 1>than certain teams in the playoffs, certainly better than Oklahoma's defense.

0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:56.000
<v Speaker 1>They lose their you know, Wisconsin was their excuse me,

0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 1>they're outside linebackers. Coach, he's taking over the Oregon State

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:04.200
<v Speaker 1>defense and Wisconsin's outside linebacker. You it's very specific tie.

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<v Speaker 1>But with Joe Show and Vince Beagle and TJ. Watt,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's a factor. I don't know. I like I

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:17.040
<v Speaker 1>like Wisconsin. I think I think looking at where Miami

0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:22.800
<v Speaker 1>struggled late in the year seeing them throw into good

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:28.680
<v Speaker 1>defenses without am On Richard, that scares me a little bit.

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I really should. Yeah so, And as much as I

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 1>do like this Miami defense r J McIntosh, Joe Jackson,

0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Shaquill Quorterman all year long, they were really fast, they

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:40.360
<v Speaker 1>were angry, they played really well as many daz defense

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 1>was fun. I'm willing Wisconsin here just because I they're

0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 1>my my more secure pick. I'm not willing to go

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 1>out on a limb for this Miami team right now.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, suit yourself. We disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>We disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>The outback ball Raymond James Stadium in Tampa, Florida, on

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<v Speaker 2>New Year's Day at High New twenty eighteen on ESPN two,

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan Wolverine's an eight point favorite over the South Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>game Cocks. The gift to all for ballers, the gift

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<v Speaker 2>of college football fans is our good friend, Ryan Nanny.

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<v Speaker 2>He will be the Fryan Bloomin' Onion, the frying Onion,

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<v Speaker 2>Fryan Nanny, Fryan Nanny, whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 2>He will be serving as the blooming onion mascot in

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<v Speaker 2>the third quarter. I believe of this football contest.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I was gonna say that's that's the gift

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<v Speaker 1>that keeps on giving. But the Outback Bowl will be

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<v Speaker 1>giving away a Justin's ring. We all know Justin's a

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<v Speaker 1>fossil watch. Here comes Fossil Yeah, one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars best Buy gift card, Outback Steakhouse gift card

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<v Speaker 1>and a hat and the gift of seeing Ryan Nanny

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<v Speaker 1>in a unit tard with a novelty vegetable around it,

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<v Speaker 1>a novelty appetizer. And of course, are our good friend

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Amine on the call. Wow, I didn't know he

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<v Speaker 1>was working this game. Adam Amine is doing this game.

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<v Speaker 1>He will be taking the Ryan Nanny situation very seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, I don't know if Ryan's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole game or the third quarter? Is Is it the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter? I hope the third quarter. I hope it's

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledged in a some sort of Renaldi situation. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>it's acknowledged in a you know, maybe there's just like

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<v Speaker 1>a box the bottom of the screen, like how they

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<v Speaker 1>would they keep it on a coach, Or maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>an arrow like when Reggie Bush played for USC got

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<v Speaker 1>to keep tabs on where Reggie Bush is lining up.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's where the onion is the game changing performance right now? Absolutely, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>yes so good gift situation, better life situation, and a

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<v Speaker 1>rematch of the Vince Smith head being popped off by

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<v Speaker 1>Jadavian Clowney.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, all of those things you just mentioned might be

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<v Speaker 2>better than this actual football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's also fair. That's why we spent time. I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at this game from every which way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and outside of LSU Notre Dame, which I'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about here in a little bit, I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>the game I'm the least excited to pay attention to

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<v Speaker 2>on New Year's.

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina is you know, it's They're not bad, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not great, They're just they They're there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're there. I haven't been enamored with South Carolina and

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<v Speaker 2>their offense all year, like nobody has. Right, this is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a nice cherry on top of their season to

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<v Speaker 2>go into a big bowl game like this. Sure, I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't think they can move the ball against Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan's got such a good defense, and look, I know

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan fans weren't entirely excited about what went on in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen, but if you truly go back and look

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<v Speaker 2>at it if you consider all the pieces they lost

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<v Speaker 2>from a year ago and now look at an eight

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<v Speaker 2>and four season where you know, Loston, Michigan State, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>that might have been one where they shouldn't have lost,

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<v Speaker 2>but Loston, Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>they were losing to Kentucky like South Carolina was teams

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<v Speaker 2>that they probably shouldn't lose to.

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<v Speaker 1>This mission season was so weird to me. It was

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<v Speaker 1>such because the defense was really good. They'd be like

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<v Speaker 1>they'd hold a team like one yard rush rush for

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<v Speaker 1>no gain, negative two yard rush, one yard rush, eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one yard rush. That was the defense. It was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna stop you a bunch and then we're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like stare at somebody in the crowd and let

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<v Speaker 1>you give get a huge play. If you're ordering the

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan DVD or whatever that year end highlight package for

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<v Speaker 1>the Wolverines, you're getting a lot of the second half

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<v Speaker 1>against Perdue. That was the bright spot. That is, you know, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>John o'corn he's he's the guy, he's the answer here.

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<v Speaker 1>This offense is ready. And then no, it was you

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<v Speaker 1>know Indiana and Purdue. We're the highlights of this Michigan season.

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<v Speaker 1>They lose to the good teams in their division. The

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<v Speaker 1>offense ultimately was below average. Kron Higgen will be healthy

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<v Speaker 1>for this game. This game feels like it will serve

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<v Speaker 1>as a way to get Michigan fans very excited about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight team, which that's going to work out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough schedule, but that's what it feels like to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, there's I guess maybe a three way

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback matchup with Shaye Patterson, Brandon Peters, Dylan McCaffrey. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see who comes out of that. But short term, this

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<v Speaker 1>game out back ball. The things that matter most one

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<v Speaker 1>onion costume, two Adam mean obviously three whatever happens in

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<v Speaker 1>this game. And South Carolina, you're right, they were fine

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<v Speaker 1>this year. They took they improved. The offense was okay,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing great. AJ Turner wasn't bad. Jake Bentley was okay

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<v Speaker 1>in spots. The defense. The defense improved against the run,

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<v Speaker 1>They prevented bigger plays through the air.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot to be happy about, to be satisfied

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<v Speaker 2>with if you're a South Carolina fan. But sure, if

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<v Speaker 2>you do a blind taste test and look at the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers that they put up on offense, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>see that they won eight and four. I would expect

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<v Speaker 2>that that would be a bit confusing because this was

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<v Speaker 2>not an offense that really took anybody by storm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with the defense here. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with Michigan comfortably in the twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they cover eight points. That seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot to me, but I feel twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>points confident that Michigan's going to win this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Chick fil A Peach Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>They play this one in the mirror Sadies Benz Stadium

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<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta, the new one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>On New Year's Day, twelve thirty pm Eastern on ESPN.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got the Auburn Tigers a nine and a half

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<v Speaker 2>point favorite against the UCF the undefeated Dan Yeah, UCF Knights.

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<v Speaker 1>A good gift situation here as well. Yeah, the Peach

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl does not mess around three hundred dollars Vanilla visa

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<v Speaker 1>gift card. Ye, Vanilla Vanilla visa? Okay, Vanilla? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>like scratch it and it smells like vanilla? Or it's

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<v Speaker 1>you can only use it at cold Stone Creamery. That's great. Great,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where they get you Ultimate Ears, wonder Boom Bluetooth speaker. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's fine. Sure, you're in Atlanta, it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be warm ish. I don't know you're inside Fossil

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<v Speaker 1>watch in a football so Fossil coming strong here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very important and a very serious question. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ready about this football game. If I gave you one

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<v Speaker 2>dollar for every time somebody asked you a hypothetical about

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<v Speaker 2>UCF's playoff chances, how many bitcoins would you have by now?

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, I don't think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>UCF playoff discussion, but a little while ago, Ty was

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<v Speaker 1>it's a considerable amount.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I would have so many bitcoins? Yeah, if we

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<v Speaker 2>were keeping track, Because UCF has been an interesting story.

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<v Speaker 1>They went undefeated.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of these statistical measures that we use to

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<v Speaker 2>gauge one team against another come back with strong returns

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<v Speaker 2>for UCF. So it's no denying that they're a very

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<v Speaker 2>popular topic, especially given the fact that we've got a

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<v Speaker 2>four team playoff, leaving the whole situation up for debate.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be a good test for UCF. It'll be

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<v Speaker 2>a good test for Scott Frost. He will be coaching

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<v Speaker 2>as well. The rest of his coaching staff. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>leave after this game. They're all going to go up

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<v Speaker 2>to Lincoln. But it'll be a really good test to

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<v Speaker 2>see where UCF is at. A game like this, as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, has proven to be a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous spot in the past for a team like an

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<v Speaker 2>Auburn because it means so much more for a team

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<v Speaker 2>like UCF than it does Auburn. Auburn was one game away.

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<v Speaker 2>For good use of that phrase, ty, it just means more,

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<v Speaker 2>it does. Auburn was one game away from being in

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<v Speaker 2>the playoff UCF. This is their national championship. They can

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<v Speaker 2>beat an SEC team on Scott Frost's way out the door.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of intangibles at play. It also did catch

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<v Speaker 2>me by surprise how statistically close this one looked. If

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<v Speaker 2>you go in there and pop the hood, the S

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<v Speaker 2>and P plus likes UCF to win by a point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, S and P plus is not a human factor thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you're you're right. I mean, does this game

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<v Speaker 1>feel sort of like pity sex versus breakup sex? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>football is football. Yeah, but okay, so yes, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest The bigger thing is Scott Frost and staff

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<v Speaker 1>moving on to Nebraska. You have the Nebraska head coach

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<v Speaker 1>now coaching UCF. This would be an enormous cherry. This

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<v Speaker 1>would be a dozen cherries on top of a delicious

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday for Scott Frost and UCF and whatever. But it

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<v Speaker 1>sort of felt like they peaked going twelve and zero.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like this is it's not Chris Peterson, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>staying Chris Peterson. You're back and poising now if you.

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<v Speaker 2>If here's my advice, if you want to root for UCF,

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<v Speaker 2>take UCF plus nine and a half straight up to

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<v Speaker 2>me is a bridge too. Defensively, Auburn is way better

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<v Speaker 2>than anybody UCF played all year, and that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>play a factor here. If nothing more, it's just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>wear down the UCF front. It sounds like kerry On

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson will be healthy, he will play in this football game,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think just by virtue of that, they will

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<v Speaker 2>also be able to wear down the front seven of UCF.

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn will.

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<v Speaker 2>So given what we know of Auburn, they got a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit nicked up down the stretch. If nothing more,

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<v Speaker 2>they were tired because of the brutal stretch they had

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<v Speaker 2>to play. They've had a couple weeks now. Scott Frost

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<v Speaker 2>I saw he was quoted as saying, well, the UCF

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<v Speaker 2>was ahead of Auburn in their preparation. Auburn wasn't practicing

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<v Speaker 2>as often as UCF was for this game. And I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that plays into the fact that maybe it means

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<v Speaker 2>more for the Nights than it does for the Tigers.

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<v Speaker 2>But Auburn had a tough stretch. They deserve some time

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<v Speaker 2>off to kind of get their bearings and get ready

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<v Speaker 2>for this one. I think over the course of sixty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes they will wear DOWNF and come away the victor here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's right. Auburn's defense was really, really, really

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<v Speaker 1>really good. They were very good against the run, They

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<v Speaker 1>were absurdly great against the pass. The offense was mostly good.

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<v Speaker 1>After that Clemson game, you know, struggled in the SEC Championship. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think what they score seven points against Georgia, but

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<v Speaker 1>this Auburn team plays defense basically as well as anybody

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<v Speaker 1>does anything, and that includes UCF on offense, and that

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<v Speaker 1>offense was a complete joy Mackenzie Milton throwing to what,

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<v Speaker 1>trey Quan Smith, Tredrick Snelson. You know, this was an

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<v Speaker 1>exciting offense. My question is this UCF defense was average?

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<v Speaker 1>They were, you know, which is a huge improvement from

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<v Speaker 1>where they were, certainly, but they're okay. Versus the run,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't bad. Versus the pass. They gave up a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of big plays. We saw the two games against

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis and USF. I just I worry that, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>waves of talent for UCF just they won't be there

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<v Speaker 1>against Auburn. The motivation for Auburn is a legitimate question,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're still playing in a group of five game

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Championship site, stadium, whatever, I think there

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<v Speaker 1>will be excitement for Auburn. This was a good season

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<v Speaker 1>for the Tigers. They beat what two playoff teams, They

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<v Speaker 1>beat George at home, they beat Bama. So it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a wildly successful year. And certainly disappointed with the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>championship game. But yeah, I think the talent factor. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the idea that it is the Nebraska head coach

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of coaching his final game out for UCF.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Auburn. I think Auburn ultimately wears them

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<v Speaker 1>down by a couple touchdowns, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then before we get to the two Big Tamali's here

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<v Speaker 2>a longer show, apologize, thank you for sticking with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Here on the solid line. The Citrus Bowl presented by Overtons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what is? Do we know what Overtons is? I

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<v Speaker 1>have no clue. What do you It's the Citrus Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Overtons. Overtons. It sounds like a local diner. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would get a Patty mellet overs. Sure. So Overton's

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<v Speaker 1>launching life on the Water. Since what it's boating, marine

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<v Speaker 1>water sports, anchor and docking trailering, so it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>it's lake stuff. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>They played at Camping World Stadium. I guess a fitting host.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ties in.

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<v Speaker 2>They also played this one on New Year's Day one

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<v Speaker 2>PM on ABC. It's LSU a three point favorite over

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<v Speaker 2>the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. In this game, they give

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<v Speaker 2>away a four hundred dollars best by Player shopping trip,

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<v Speaker 2>which is done. I like that, and a timely watch

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<v Speaker 2>company watch great gift. So Notre Dame was a bit

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<v Speaker 2>in the news. Kevin Stefferson is their wide receiver suspended

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<v Speaker 2>for this game, he got popped for speeding and then

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<v Speaker 2>I guess not having a license and then having weed

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<v Speaker 2>in his car.

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<v Speaker 1>Not his first brush with the law.

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<v Speaker 2>He's kind of been a handful ever since he got

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<v Speaker 2>there for Brian Kelly in a football since he led

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<v Speaker 2>the receiving core with five touchdowns and he might have

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<v Speaker 2>been their best big play guy. Yeah, so's It's not

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<v Speaker 2>something you want to under sell because, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my gripe about Notre Dame's offense all year has been

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<v Speaker 2>the passing game. They haven't really been able to get

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<v Speaker 2>much going down the field in the passing game. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>to lose that component, I think is something that will

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<v Speaker 2>obviously affect them negatively going into a big game like

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<v Speaker 2>this against LSU. LSU has a pretty good defense in

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<v Speaker 2>their own right. I don't want any part of Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame in this game, why none whatsoever?

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<v Speaker 1>The Stefferson passing game factor, not just that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like you've got such a good defense

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<v Speaker 2>at LSU. You've got a really good defensive coordinator in

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<v Speaker 2>David Randa. I think he's gonna watch the tape. He's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna look, he's going to see what other programs did.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to see what Miami did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this was I think you're mostly right. This

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a dominant LSU defense at any one thing. This

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't where this defense was these last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were good. They were you know, they were complete.

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<v Speaker 1>They were good. And this LSU team was led mostly

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<v Speaker 1>by the fact that, oh man, the phone keeps ringing,

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<v Speaker 1>most by the fact that they were more talented than

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<v Speaker 1>most of the teams they played, the improvement of Danniettling

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<v Speaker 1>on offense, Darius Guice when he was healthy was very good,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that the SEC wasn't terrific. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of changes happening on both sides of the conference.

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<v Speaker 1>So Notre Dame wise, i'd be worried that the obvious

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<v Speaker 1>strategy as well make Brandon Wimbush beat you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that David Randon needs to do anything

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<v Speaker 2>more complicated. Yeah, I really don't. And that worries me

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<v Speaker 2>for Notre Dame here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think that's all reasonable, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think one of the stories about Notre Dame that's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit below the surface. Unfortunately, because of the emergence

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<v Speaker 1>of Josh Adams as a huge play running back and

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Wimbusch had a really nice at least first half

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<v Speaker 1>or two thirds of the season. Is the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame's defense got good, especially against the pass this year.

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<v Speaker 1>From where they were in twenty sixteen, they improved so

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<v Speaker 1>much and they'll have a lot to sort of worry

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<v Speaker 1>about with dj Chark as a big play guy and

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Atling throwing the ball downfield pretty well. But that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was a cool thing to see improve for

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame. I just as Brandon Wimbush as the ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>fifty to fifty guy. That works me, So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>I think probably more of a defensive slug fest than

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of pyrotechnic display on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think that it will be wimbushed. That

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<v Speaker 1>again sinks Notre Dame. I don't think he's going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Move the ball through the air that he needs to

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<v Speaker 2>that David rand is going to force him to try

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<v Speaker 2>and do.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you confident that they'll he'll improve next year or two?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not confident at all, because he hasn't improved

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<v Speaker 2>this year. Okay, you know, from start to finish, you

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<v Speaker 2>can make a really good case that he didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>any better. So no, I'm not confident at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough, I'm curious see what else you looks

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<v Speaker 1>like offensively moving forward? But yeah, okay, let's go with

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<v Speaker 1>the agree.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, Dan, in the wise words of that HQ

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<v Speaker 2>trivia host, have you played that at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I love HQ Scott was Nowski was new Ski? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I want a Christmas Eve thirty five bucks? Is that true?

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<v Speaker 1>It is twelve questions.

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<v Speaker 2>It all boils down to this, Dan, Let's start with

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<v Speaker 2>the first of two college football playoff games, the Rose

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl Game, presented by Northwestern Mutual. They play it at

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<v Speaker 2>the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California. It is on New

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<v Speaker 2>Year's Day at five pm the Classic Rose bull starting

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<v Speaker 2>time on ESPN Georgia. The Bulldogs the SEC champions at

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<v Speaker 2>ten and two, a one and a half point favorite

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<v Speaker 2>over Oklahoma at twelve and one. They enter this game

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<v Speaker 2>with one loss to our friends over at Iowa State,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are the Big twelve champion. In this game,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a gift suite of Fossil Watch, an Agio backpack,

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<v Speaker 2>a new Era nine to fifty snap back adjustable hat,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's all I see.

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<v Speaker 1>Also also a gift. You get to go play in

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<v Speaker 1>the Rose Bowl, the best single setting for a game

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<v Speaker 1>and best game you know, going to the Rose Bull

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<v Speaker 1>for UCLA Arizona State not wonderful, but this Jeep New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's it's the best.

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<v Speaker 2>A quick look at the numbers here, the S and

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<v Speaker 2>P Plus has Georgia as the eighteenth most efficient offense

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<v Speaker 2>in college football the eighth most efficient defense. Oklahoma, They've

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<v Speaker 2>got the top offense, the most efficient offense in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>and most explosive and most explosive, but the ninety fifth

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<v Speaker 2>most efficient defense. Right, whether you understand these numbers are not,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the mismatch.

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<v Speaker 1>On paper.

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<v Speaker 2>It jumps OUTI it sticks out like gasre thumb. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's start there. How fair is it to say that

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<v Speaker 2>the weakest entity on the field is Oklahoma's defense?

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<v Speaker 1>Accurate? I think that's accurate?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, they have the best offense and the worst

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<v Speaker 1>defense in the playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that we know that, now that we're assuming

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<v Speaker 2>that much as fact, given that Oklahoma's offense is so

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<v Speaker 2>damn efficient, how much, if at all, does that defense

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<v Speaker 2>really scare you?

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<v Speaker 1>The defense did improve, To be fair to Oklahoma, they

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<v Speaker 1>gave up what seventeen to a good TCU offense. They

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<v Speaker 1>gave up twenty earlier on in the season to the

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<v Speaker 1>same TCU offense. They obviously shut down Kansas. They were

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<v Speaker 1>other than that Oklahoma State game. They were largely Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got og what is it? Okonquo, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>screw that up for the rest of time. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>a great a great guy for them on defense. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think in big spots this Oklahoma defense can be enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, if they're not going to be good,

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<v Speaker 1>they can be enough to not be a detriment and

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<v Speaker 1>take away from what seems to always be an exhilarating

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<v Speaker 1>offensive performance from Baker Mayfield and his year over year

1:19:05.280 --> 1:19:10.439
<v Speaker 1>new skill set around him. Okay, so it doesn't terrify

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<v Speaker 1>me in the way that I think ordinarily it would

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<v Speaker 1>because you have that quarterback cover.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is definitely a possibility that Georgia comes

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<v Speaker 2>into this game and does exactly what it's done in

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of other games this season. They'll grind it

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<v Speaker 2>out with Nick Chubb and Sony Michelle. They'll play off

1:19:29.560 --> 1:19:32.720
<v Speaker 2>that they'll get Jake from some good looks downfield in

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<v Speaker 2>a vacuum. That's a really good matchup for Georgia, and

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<v Speaker 2>on some level we're going to see that play out

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<v Speaker 2>here in Georgia's favor in this football game. They will

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<v Speaker 2>do that to some degree of success. I have no

1:19:43.560 --> 1:19:48.120
<v Speaker 2>doubt about that. What worries me is that Oklahoma runs hot.

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<v Speaker 2>They run hot. They're the best first quarter team in

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<v Speaker 2>college football, at least on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Would it surprise you if they went out there opening

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<v Speaker 2>dry and went eighty yards on three plays and scored

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<v Speaker 2>a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Three plays, maybe seven six, five plays maybe not? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would I mean? They have the clear best quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>in college football. Who I mean, We've talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems like he's in purgatory a little bit all

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<v Speaker 1>season long. He doesn't seem like a college quarterback. He

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a grad student. He's, you know, ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Was ready for the NFL early on in

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<v Speaker 1>the season. And I generally don't care how good your

1:20:26.479 --> 1:20:29.320
<v Speaker 1>secondary is. He's going to able. He's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to buy enough time to make a play in

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<v Speaker 1>the same way you know, Deshaun Watson was able to

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<v Speaker 1>do last year. Marcus Mariota was you know, there. He

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<v Speaker 1>has that very specific talent that you can cover his receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>You can cover you know, Mark Andrews, you can cover

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<v Speaker 1>whoever for three four seconds. But he is going to

1:20:47.280 --> 1:20:51.439
<v Speaker 1>squirt and squirm and move around enough to make a

1:20:51.560 --> 1:20:53.040
<v Speaker 1>play more often than not.

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<v Speaker 2>I just worry that George is gonna have to play

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<v Speaker 2>from behind early. And okay, if that's the case, what

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<v Speaker 2>happens to their game plan of trying to grind it out?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Jake from has been really good. He's

1:21:06.120 --> 1:21:09.840
<v Speaker 2>been efficient and accurate and all the superlatives apply to

1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:12.000
<v Speaker 2>what he's done in his first year. He's been outstanding.

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<v Speaker 2>But Georgia, I think, has a very specific game plan

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<v Speaker 2>that we know a lot about. And what really impresses

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<v Speaker 2>me about Oklahoma is that in spite of losing both

1:21:23.360 --> 1:21:26.840
<v Speaker 2>running backs and DeeDee Westbrook and Bob freaking Stoops from

1:21:26.840 --> 1:21:30.040
<v Speaker 2>a year ago, Lincoln Riley came in. He was starting

1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:33.120
<v Speaker 2>with Baker Mayfield in a good line. And if you're

1:21:33.160 --> 1:21:34.840
<v Speaker 2>a fan, all you can ask is that your team

1:21:34.880 --> 1:21:37.519
<v Speaker 2>gets better. They have gotten better on offense. They have

1:21:37.600 --> 1:21:40.280
<v Speaker 2>so many different ways that they can beat you. I

1:21:40.360 --> 1:21:44.400
<v Speaker 2>don't think Georgia has that kind of variety on their offense.

1:21:44.439 --> 1:21:47.160
<v Speaker 2>They have a very specific formula that they can follow

1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:50.160
<v Speaker 2>and veer from to some degree and still be very successful.

1:21:50.760 --> 1:21:54.719
<v Speaker 2>But I feel much better about Oklahoma really against any defense,

1:21:54.800 --> 1:21:56.559
<v Speaker 2>given that they've got Baker Mayfield.

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I am. If I weren't sticking to my formula here

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<v Speaker 2>and putting the minimal amount of confidence points in these

1:22:05.120 --> 1:22:07.800
<v Speaker 2>later games, I would put a lot more than three

1:22:08.000 --> 1:22:11.320
<v Speaker 2>on Oklahoma because I've just been so impressed by how

1:22:11.320 --> 1:22:13.360
<v Speaker 2>they've gotten better throughout the course.

1:22:13.200 --> 1:22:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Of the season. So I'm gonna go Oklahoma here outright,

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<v Speaker 1>every part of my gut is sent telling me Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback. He's been in the playoff, you know, beat

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn and what the Sugar Bowl last year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been in these big spots, going into the biggest spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like Oklahoma here because of Baker Mayfield. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going Georgia. WHOA Why I'm going Georgia because

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<v Speaker 1>too many times danalytics scene. No, I mean, the defense

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<v Speaker 1>thing does play a role. Yes, too many times I've

1:22:46.120 --> 1:22:50.480
<v Speaker 1>seen the better defense get the best of an excellent quarterback.

1:22:50.800 --> 1:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Too many times over the course of four quarters. You know,

1:22:53.720 --> 1:22:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the talent edge clearly goes to Georgia. The fact that

1:22:56.400 --> 1:22:59.439
<v Speaker 1>their front is as dominant as it is against I mean,

1:22:59.479 --> 1:23:03.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the mat right It's and Lorenzo Carter against the

1:23:04.600 --> 1:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>just unbelievably dominant Oklahoma offensive line. It's how much can

1:23:10.000 --> 1:23:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Georgia force Baker Mayfield to be uncomfortable? And even when uncomfortable,

1:23:16.720 --> 1:23:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield's better than anybody, But that, to me is

1:23:19.200 --> 1:23:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the big difference, and the fact that Georgia was able

1:23:22.400 --> 1:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>to cover their perceived weaknesses, be it deep with the

1:23:25.800 --> 1:23:28.599
<v Speaker 1>secondary or be it offensive line early on to become

1:23:28.880 --> 1:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>a strength and even when offensively if Jake From's not

1:23:32.360 --> 1:23:34.360
<v Speaker 1>getting it going, and I think this is God, it's

1:23:34.400 --> 1:23:36.680
<v Speaker 1>an enormous spot for a true freshman quarterback to be

1:23:36.800 --> 1:23:40.559
<v Speaker 1>in against another quarterback who has all of the seasoning

1:23:40.640 --> 1:23:44.160
<v Speaker 1>in the world in Baker Mayfield. I just the more

1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:48.479
<v Speaker 1>dependable thing to me in these spots is defensive talent

1:23:49.280 --> 1:23:52.040
<v Speaker 1>at this point with what we've seen recently, with as

1:23:52.080 --> 1:23:55.040
<v Speaker 1>good as spread offenses have been, with a first year

1:23:55.120 --> 1:23:58.640
<v Speaker 1>head coach with a questionable at times defense, I mean,

1:23:58.880 --> 1:24:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Mason Rudolph carved up this Oklahoma State defense. I mean

1:24:02.680 --> 1:24:05.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe the best receiving corps in college football, but he

1:24:05.160 --> 1:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>carved them up. I'm just I'm going to go This

1:24:08.920 --> 1:24:11.479
<v Speaker 1>is the same reason I took Wisconsin. Ag It's Miami, Okay.

1:24:11.920 --> 1:24:14.160
<v Speaker 1>There's more I feel like I can depend on in

1:24:14.280 --> 1:24:17.719
<v Speaker 1>this game when things go wrong than just Baker Mayfield.

1:24:18.000 --> 1:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going Georgia and I hate myself for doing it.

1:24:20.880 --> 1:24:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm kind of going with Oklahoma for all

1:24:24.120 --> 1:24:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the same reasons.

1:24:25.080 --> 1:24:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:24:25.640 --> 1:24:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I think either way, this is potential to be the

1:24:28.439 --> 1:24:30.519
<v Speaker 2>best game of the year, maybe the best game all

1:24:30.640 --> 1:24:33.519
<v Speaker 2>next year too. I think Oklahoma goes up early. I

1:24:33.560 --> 1:24:36.320
<v Speaker 2>think Georgia Whittle's their way back. I think we get

1:24:36.320 --> 1:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>to the fourth quarter and Oklahoma's trying to hang on

1:24:38.360 --> 1:24:42.519
<v Speaker 2>for dear life, sore more shootout et a very close game.

1:24:42.560 --> 1:24:46.240
<v Speaker 2>I like Oklahoma thirty eight thirty seven in an instant

1:24:46.320 --> 1:24:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Rose Bowl Classic.

1:24:47.680 --> 1:24:49.799
<v Speaker 1>And to be clear, I watched every second of Oklahoma

1:24:49.840 --> 1:24:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. I know what I'm doing, and I'm doing

1:24:52.520 --> 1:24:56.519
<v Speaker 1>something bad. But in a spot like this, with the

1:24:56.720 --> 1:24:59.880
<v Speaker 1>amount of time to prepare, I think, you know, Kirby's

1:25:00.080 --> 1:25:03.400
<v Speaker 1>art Mel Tucker, that defense kind of Sam Sewin on offense.

1:25:04.520 --> 1:25:09.639
<v Speaker 1>I think Georgia wins this game twenty eight to twenty seven.

1:25:10.479 --> 1:25:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1:25:11.240 --> 1:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, well, I think it's gonna unbelieve. I

1:25:13.960 --> 1:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>cannot wait for this.

1:25:14.960 --> 1:25:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited for this game, which means that the

1:25:18.680 --> 1:25:22.920
<v Speaker 2>final showdown in the playoffs this season, at least in

1:25:22.960 --> 1:25:25.559
<v Speaker 2>the semi finals, is the All State Sugar Bowl. They

1:25:25.640 --> 1:25:28.400
<v Speaker 2>play it on New Year's Day at eight forty five

1:25:28.479 --> 1:25:32.519
<v Speaker 2>pm Eastern Time on ESPN live from New Orleans in

1:25:32.600 --> 1:25:35.960
<v Speaker 2>the Mercedes Benz Superdome. It's a rematch from last year's

1:25:36.280 --> 1:25:38.080
<v Speaker 2>actual national championship game.

1:25:39.000 --> 1:25:40.559
<v Speaker 1>Alabama at eleven and one.

1:25:40.680 --> 1:25:42.920
<v Speaker 2>They did not win their conference, but they did make

1:25:42.960 --> 1:25:46.280
<v Speaker 2>it in thanks to the College Football Playoff Selection Committee.

1:25:47.120 --> 1:25:49.439
<v Speaker 2>They're a two point two and a half point favorite,

1:25:49.439 --> 1:25:52.840
<v Speaker 2>depending where you look. Over the Clemson Tigers at twelve

1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:53.200
<v Speaker 2>and one.

1:25:53.320 --> 1:25:58.040
<v Speaker 1>They won the A C C. What's our final gift situation, Dan,

1:25:58.800 --> 1:26:02.559
<v Speaker 1>sugar ball always on time is pretty good. The Sugar

1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Bowl is giving away. There's a gift sweet situation. A

1:26:05.680 --> 1:26:08.519
<v Speaker 1>fossil watch, a new era cap, Rockham socks, which were

1:26:08.560 --> 1:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>in agreement. They look pretty great. They need to send

1:26:10.439 --> 1:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>us rock Em socks, but they need some rock Ems

1:26:13.160 --> 1:26:16.439
<v Speaker 1>and a panoramic game photo. Which I like that I

1:26:16.520 --> 1:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>have a panoramic view of I think it's Oregon USC

1:26:19.280 --> 1:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>from two thousand and eight, maybe up in my apartment,

1:26:22.120 --> 1:26:25.880
<v Speaker 1>so I like those. So always better if you are

1:26:26.120 --> 1:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the team with the winning score to get a panoramic

1:26:29.840 --> 1:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>game photo memory. But that's pretty good. I'm sure the

1:26:31.960 --> 1:26:32.680
<v Speaker 1>gift sweet's nice.

1:26:33.000 --> 1:26:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Let's take another look at the numbers here as we

1:26:35.400 --> 1:26:39.400
<v Speaker 2>did with the last game. Alabama nineteenth in terms of

1:26:39.600 --> 1:26:44.519
<v Speaker 2>offensive efficiency, third in terms of defensive efficiency in the nation.

1:26:45.520 --> 1:26:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Clemson at thirty five overall in terms of offensive efficiency

1:26:50.479 --> 1:26:54.240
<v Speaker 2>and number two when it comes to defense. There are

1:26:54.280 --> 1:26:57.200
<v Speaker 2>no glaring deficiencies either way. That's why they're in the playoff.

1:26:57.560 --> 1:27:00.160
<v Speaker 2>The only thing that I'd call out is is that

1:27:00.240 --> 1:27:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Clemson hasn't been great this season at generating those bigger

1:27:04.360 --> 1:27:07.639
<v Speaker 2>chunk plays. They're pretty low on the totem pole when

1:27:07.680 --> 1:27:10.040
<v Speaker 2>it comes to the explosion plays that tend to turn

1:27:10.120 --> 1:27:11.160
<v Speaker 2>a game one way or another.

1:27:11.360 --> 1:27:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So that's something to keep an eye on Clemson. Last year,

1:27:14.439 --> 1:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you're defending national champion one hundred and fourth most explosive

1:27:18.200 --> 1:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>team in the country, right seventh most efficient, So if

1:27:22.439 --> 1:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>your top ten efficient, explosion matters less. Although the team

1:27:25.920 --> 1:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that wins the explosion battle typically goes on

1:27:28.760 --> 1:27:30.679
<v Speaker 1>to win the game something like eighty eighty five percent

1:27:30.760 --> 1:27:32.519
<v Speaker 1>of the time. But yeah, so that's where they were

1:27:32.640 --> 1:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>last year. And we've talked about this before and this

1:27:36.320 --> 1:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>is Clemson Alabama three. That the thing that teams that

1:27:39.400 --> 1:27:42.519
<v Speaker 1>generally are able to find success against Alabama's defense have

1:27:42.640 --> 1:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>in common is a fearless combination of offensive play caller

1:27:47.280 --> 1:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and quarterback, which certainly they have the play callers, the

1:27:51.439 --> 1:27:53.799
<v Speaker 1>co offensive coordinators have done a great job for Clemson.

1:27:54.800 --> 1:27:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Was that Jeff Scott and Tony Elliott they do not

1:27:57.640 --> 1:28:01.519
<v Speaker 1>have a season And I would sayinatively, fearless quarterback and

1:28:01.600 --> 1:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Bryant. I don't agree with it very good. I

1:28:03.400 --> 1:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>would agree with that. We've talked about talent wise, you

1:28:07.120 --> 1:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>need to be comparable. Clemson more than fits that, Bill

1:28:11.400 --> 1:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and I would especially along the lines. And the other

1:28:14.200 --> 1:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>thing that Clemson had last year that they don't have

1:28:16.360 --> 1:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>this year necessarily is big physical combination of you know, receivers,

1:28:21.360 --> 1:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>pass catchers, tight end receivers. You know, no Mike Williams,

1:28:24.320 --> 1:28:27.519
<v Speaker 1>no Jordan Leggett. There is a difference in what Clemson's

1:28:27.560 --> 1:28:29.559
<v Speaker 1>receiving corps looks like I know t Higgins has been

1:28:29.600 --> 1:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>their big play guy, and he's a bigger receiver, like

1:28:32.120 --> 1:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>six four to two hundred, but it's a it's a

1:28:33.920 --> 1:28:37.519
<v Speaker 1>smaller receiving corps this year, led by Deon Caine, Hunter

1:28:37.640 --> 1:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Renfro and really talented guys. But in terms of the

1:28:41.720 --> 1:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of physicality of having those bigger pass catchers, that

1:28:44.520 --> 1:28:48.639
<v Speaker 1>is a difference for Clemson this year. So that worries

1:28:48.720 --> 1:28:51.519
<v Speaker 1>me a little bit that it's not Deshaun Watson throwing

1:28:51.560 --> 1:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>to smaller receivers, it's Kelly Bryant.

1:28:53.479 --> 1:28:57.400
<v Speaker 2>And you said the keyword there, Deshaun Watson, I think

1:28:57.760 --> 1:29:00.560
<v Speaker 2>is kind of what I look at that what he

1:29:00.680 --> 1:29:03.559
<v Speaker 2>did last year and how he was able to single

1:29:03.640 --> 1:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>handedly take out Alabama. If you replace Deshaun Watson with

1:29:09.720 --> 1:29:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Kelly Bryant with anybody else, I don't think Clemson wins

1:29:12.160 --> 1:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>last year. But he was such a transcendent player on

1:29:14.960 --> 1:29:17.839
<v Speaker 2>the college level, much in the way that Baker Mayfield

1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:20.040
<v Speaker 2>is this year, by the way that he was able

1:29:20.080 --> 1:29:23.519
<v Speaker 2>to will his team to victory. Now, it's no knock

1:29:23.560 --> 1:29:26.639
<v Speaker 2>on Kelly Bryant. I don't think he's at that level yet.

1:29:27.400 --> 1:29:29.120
<v Speaker 2>And so when I went through and I tried to

1:29:29.280 --> 1:29:31.800
<v Speaker 2>evaluate this game, Okay, Clemson has a lot of the

1:29:31.880 --> 1:29:34.439
<v Speaker 2>boxes checked, a lot of the things that you need

1:29:34.520 --> 1:29:36.439
<v Speaker 2>if you're going to go toe to toe with Alabama,

1:29:36.520 --> 1:29:40.080
<v Speaker 2>they have it. But as a rule, when you consider

1:29:40.160 --> 1:29:42.599
<v Speaker 2>that Nick Saban has had so much time to prepare,

1:29:43.880 --> 1:29:46.599
<v Speaker 2>that to me seems like something that would favor Alabama

1:29:46.640 --> 1:29:47.120
<v Speaker 2>in this game.

1:29:48.360 --> 1:29:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Is Jeremy Prewett fully focused on Alabama.

1:29:52.240 --> 1:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>The thing about Pruet is he's coached at such a

1:29:54.000 --> 1:29:56.880
<v Speaker 2>high level before you know, He's been at Georgia, he's

1:29:56.920 --> 1:29:59.760
<v Speaker 2>been at Florida State, say, He's been around the block

1:29:59.840 --> 1:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>to know how these things are supposed to work. So

1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that factors in as much, especially given

1:30:05.400 --> 1:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the fact that Alabama is just so damn talented on defense. Now, linebacking.

1:30:09.320 --> 1:30:11.280
<v Speaker 2>The linebacking corps has been a bit of an issue

1:30:11.280 --> 1:30:13.080
<v Speaker 2>with the injury bug, but I think they'll be okay

1:30:13.160 --> 1:30:15.720
<v Speaker 2>there by the time this game rolls around. So no,

1:30:15.840 --> 1:30:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that factors in as much as some

1:30:18.720 --> 1:30:19.559
<v Speaker 2>might lead you to believe.

1:30:20.120 --> 1:30:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Here's the other thing that we should It also is

1:30:22.479 --> 1:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>worth noting, even though it's been the case for a

1:30:24.439 --> 1:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>long time. Alabama gave Clemson everything they could handle last

1:30:28.960 --> 1:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>year with the best Clemson quarterback or player of all time,

1:30:32.439 --> 1:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson. That was with Ruben Foster, was with Jonathan Allen,

1:30:37.439 --> 1:30:40.559
<v Speaker 1>that was with Brian Anderson, that was with Dalvin Tomlinson,

1:30:40.640 --> 1:30:44.599
<v Speaker 1>Tim Williams. This is not the same level of danger,

1:30:44.880 --> 1:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>especially with the injuries in the sort of back half

1:30:47.960 --> 1:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>of Alabama's defense. So the margin freyer might be a

1:30:51.960 --> 1:30:55.599
<v Speaker 1>little bit wider for Kelly Bryant. This is an excellent

1:30:55.680 --> 1:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Alabama defense. It is not an absurdly talented upfront in

1:30:59.760 --> 1:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>this same way it was last year with you know,

1:31:01.680 --> 1:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the versatility. You know, Eddie Jackson was so good for

1:31:04.080 --> 1:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>them last year playing all over the field. So it

1:31:07.040 --> 1:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>is a better year this year to play Alabama's defense

1:31:10.960 --> 1:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>at this point than it was last year.

1:31:13.720 --> 1:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>You know. And it's such an interesting point too, because

1:31:15.840 --> 1:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>when I was trying to go through and look at

1:31:18.439 --> 1:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>what Alabama has done this season, what they've done in

1:31:20.800 --> 1:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the past in this playoff sabans two to one in

1:31:24.040 --> 1:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>the first round of the playoff matchups. Okay, they've been

1:31:26.280 --> 1:31:30.599
<v Speaker 2>in it each of the last three years. You could

1:31:30.680 --> 1:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>make a case that Bama this year is not on

1:31:36.800 --> 1:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>the level of any of the three previous versions of

1:31:41.120 --> 1:31:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Alabama in this first round of the College Football Playoff.

1:31:43.720 --> 1:31:45.679
<v Speaker 2>Like all those teams, I think could have been better.

1:31:45.920 --> 1:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>No, that's totally right, and the reason why this year

1:31:50.640 --> 1:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel too worried about Alabama defense. I don't

1:31:53.880 --> 1:31:57.679
<v Speaker 1>think clemb is going to score thirty five points. Alabama's offense,

1:31:57.720 --> 1:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to me is I think probably the big because that's

1:32:01.120 --> 1:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>where the biggest talent matchup is Alabama on offense, you know,

1:32:04.880 --> 1:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>with the seven thousand talented running backs and Jalen Hurts

1:32:09.120 --> 1:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>playing and yet another huge game. He's seasoned, He's struggled

1:32:12.240 --> 1:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>in a couple of these, but he's played them, and

1:32:14.520 --> 1:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, they have a huge time receiver in Calvin Ridley,

1:32:17.560 --> 1:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and the Clemson defensive front is going to be swarming.

1:32:21.479 --> 1:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I think this is going to be the best in

1:32:23.880 --> 1:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>terms of pure talent on pure talent, the best matchup

1:32:26.200 --> 1:32:30.599
<v Speaker 1>in this game. I'm a little bit worried about Jalen Hurts,

1:32:31.000 --> 1:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>okay against this Clemson defense. I'm a little worried about

1:32:33.840 --> 1:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>him getting spooked on third and eight, And I go

1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>back and forth. I think I'm going Clemson, Okay, and

1:32:42.320 --> 1:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>it's the same. I think it's the sort of getting

1:32:44.080 --> 1:32:48.439
<v Speaker 1>older and leaning more towards what I can depend on.

1:32:49.080 --> 1:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's more that Clemson can get five six

1:32:53.479 --> 1:32:56.519
<v Speaker 1>year olds on the ground. Kelly Bryant can. I mean,

1:32:56.760 --> 1:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Bryan and Jalen Hurts are both great at running

1:32:58.800 --> 1:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the ball. Jalen Hurts is a little bit better. But

1:33:01.640 --> 1:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>there's something that is more dependable about Clemson at this

1:33:05.439 --> 1:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>point because of their experience on defense, their experience in

1:33:09.000 --> 1:33:11.439
<v Speaker 1>this spot. Kelly Bryant as a runner, He's their best

1:33:11.560 --> 1:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>running back as a quarterback. I think I like this.

1:33:15.680 --> 1:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I like Clemson just a tad more in

1:33:19.080 --> 1:33:19.599
<v Speaker 1>this spot.

1:33:20.600 --> 1:33:23.080
<v Speaker 2>It's a very difficult game to try and project.

1:33:23.640 --> 1:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:33:24.240 --> 1:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I actually come down on the opposite side of the

1:33:26.680 --> 1:33:29.920
<v Speaker 2>coin here and I jotted down some of the same

1:33:30.200 --> 1:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>words that you use.

1:33:31.400 --> 1:33:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Trust.

1:33:32.479 --> 1:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I say a time and time again. It's about trust, babe, Yes,

1:33:35.240 --> 1:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>it is. Who do you trust more to make a

1:33:37.400 --> 1:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>big play with the game on the line. I think

1:33:41.000 --> 1:33:43.960
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a defensive slugfest, yeah, one way

1:33:44.080 --> 1:33:48.080
<v Speaker 2>or the other. I think I trust Jalen hurtsmore, and

1:33:48.240 --> 1:33:51.759
<v Speaker 2>I know he struggled in the past, but all things considered,

1:33:51.760 --> 1:33:53.400
<v Speaker 2>he's had a pretty good year. He only threw one

1:33:53.479 --> 1:33:56.599
<v Speaker 2>interception all year. He's very good at running the football,

1:33:57.280 --> 1:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>and he's had a knack for making big plays in

1:33:59.720 --> 1:34:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the he just hasn't always been consistent. But I do

1:34:03.040 --> 1:34:06.760
<v Speaker 2>think that seasoning does creep into the equation here, and

1:34:06.840 --> 1:34:08.800
<v Speaker 2>given the fact that they're so good on defense that

1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:12.479
<v Speaker 2>it's probably gonna be a tight game. I think Jalen

1:34:12.600 --> 1:34:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Hurts will have a big play in him down the

1:34:15.320 --> 1:34:17.639
<v Speaker 2>stretch that ultimately springs Alabama here to victory.

1:34:17.720 --> 1:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Twenty eight, twenty four, all right, I have I don't know,

1:34:21.400 --> 1:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty three to twenty twenty seven to twenty four something

1:34:24.000 --> 1:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>in like that close Clemson win, And yeah, I think

1:34:27.840 --> 1:34:29.679
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna take you have to take chances against

1:34:29.680 --> 1:34:32.280
<v Speaker 1>this Clemson defense. Deep. I think that's where teams have succeeded.

1:34:32.360 --> 1:34:35.479
<v Speaker 1>And Clemson honestly is the more tested team, which is

1:34:35.600 --> 1:34:37.519
<v Speaker 1>very rare to say. And it's because of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Florida State struggling. It's because of you know, the way

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<v Speaker 1>you know, A and M and LSU weren't really the

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<v Speaker 1>same as they've been in recent years against Alabama, all

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<v Speaker 1>miss being down and Clemson beating Auburn, beating Virginia Tech,

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<v Speaker 1>dominating Miami. We just I think we know more about

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<v Speaker 1>them in big spots. You know, one of these teams

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<v Speaker 1>is beating Auburn. One of them hasn't, so I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>granted it was early September. Yeah sure, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>with Clemson here, being a lit little bit more self

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<v Speaker 1>aware in these big spots while healthier.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got two confidence points on this one. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>confidence point one confidence point on the National Championship game

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously we don't know that matchup yet, so that

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<v Speaker 2>gets one.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if I could put zero on this one,

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<v Speaker 1>I would. I'd love to give people.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there a hot take about the matchup that I

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<v Speaker 2>see or why I feel more strongly about Auburn than

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson er vice versa. But this is just so damn close,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan and I could totally see it going one way

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<v Speaker 2>or the other. I struggled mightily with Alabama here, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's I'm going to go with the Crimson Tide. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been a fan all year. Let's just roll with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty eight twenty four fair We disagree, slightly disagreed on

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<v Speaker 2>both of the playoff games.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually that's true. All right, Well, there you have it, yeap,

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<v Speaker 1>that does it for all of the bowl games.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly, we will be back after the New Year to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about all of these games, talk about the playoff

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<v Speaker 2>and then ultimately give you our national championship preview, which

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<v Speaker 2>will drop later on in the week next week, presumably.

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<v Speaker 1>When you and I get to Atlanta and have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to finish that guy up.

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<v Speaker 2>But wow, great year, great twenty seventeen in the college

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<v Speaker 2>football world. We appreciate everyone sticking with us throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>calendar year, throughout the season, Dan, this has been exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Our tenth full year. It feels like nine. It feels

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<v Speaker 1>like nine. I'm excited for Atlanta, Tai to see you,

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<v Speaker 1>to see the verballers down there, to get excited to

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<v Speaker 1>do the media day stuff for our friends at Facebook Sports.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a hell of a next I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what is it, ten days or so. I

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<v Speaker 1>this is the best. This is just it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of college football, it's a lot of food. It's I

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<v Speaker 1>love it all in New Year's Day is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be great. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you again to everyone out there who gives

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<v Speaker 2>us so much support. We're going to open up the

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<v Speaker 2>reverblind on New Year's Day if you want to give

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<v Speaker 2>a phone call in. At some point we'll get our

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<v Speaker 2>boy Taylor to cut those together and do one final

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<v Speaker 2>reverbs for the twenty seventeen season four eight verbal one

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<v Speaker 2>four oh eight eight three seven two two five one.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to get in on the action and

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<v Speaker 2>leave us one more message, you can text us, reach

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<v Speaker 2>out on Twitter, on Facebook, via email at soliverbal at

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<v Speaker 2>gmail dot com. And don't forget if you're planning on

1:37:21.200 --> 1:37:24.080
<v Speaker 2>being in Atlanta, either if you live there, if you're

1:37:24.120 --> 1:37:26.160
<v Speaker 2>passing through town, or maybe if you're coming down for

1:37:26.200 --> 1:37:30.920
<v Speaker 2>the National Championship. We've got another lot of tickets that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to put up for sale January the second,

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<v Speaker 2>at one pm Eastern. We'll link that up on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook, on Instagram, post it on the website. We'll

1:37:41.240 --> 1:37:44.360
<v Speaker 2>send out an email to the newsletter of intent. We

1:37:44.439 --> 1:37:46.800
<v Speaker 2>still got tickets we want to sell that out. That

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<v Speaker 2>being said, please do let us know if you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in town, if you're interested. Daniel, that's all

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<v Speaker 2>I got.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I got. I don't think we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do a secret verbal song is the show song. The

1:37:57.560 --> 1:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>show is already long enough, but I agree he Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we got you out of uncomfortable situations having to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this show, or got you on your journey more

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<v Speaker 1>comfortably back home to a new place whatever, to vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad we're here, Ty, I'm glad. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>that's a longer show than usual. To close out twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>We will catch you all on the flip side in

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<v Speaker 2>the meantime. For that guy over there, my good friend

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ty Hildenbrand, we'll catch you all

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<v Speaker 2>next week and next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year and stay solid peace.