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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal. Ill that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for Dake, Ada State?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Whoo whoom?

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Speaker 1: And Dan and.

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Speaker 2: Tye welcome back to the Solid Verbal Boys, girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always from an

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Speaker 2: undisclosed location.

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Speaker 1: His name is Dan Rubinstein. Sir, how are you? I

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Speaker 1: can disclose that I'm outside of Chicago. I am in

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Speaker 1: the suburbs. I'm all right. A lot has happened since

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Speaker 1: we last recorded. Okay, right, pause.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are a show about honesty.

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Speaker 1: We are.

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Speaker 2: When we recorded last time, you were in la at

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Speaker 2: your old house where you grew up. Now you're making

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Speaker 2: your way back across the country eastward bound. Here you

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Speaker 2: are in Chicago, as I understand it, in the childhood

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Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yes, shout out to Blake. I am

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Speaker 1: in the childhood bedroom. I'm next to a CRT. Is

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Speaker 1: that what it is? The CRTTV the cathode raid tube. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: It is like a definite fourteen year old boys bedroom

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Speaker 1: right now. Life is good. It's very cold. I just

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Speaker 1: tad about a food poisoning. I missed the West coastar

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Speaker 1: food poisoning. Oh yeah, food poisoning. I mean we should

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Speaker 1: also my Hi. It is a college football show, ye hill.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of bowl games to recap and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's no joke. So hold on now, yeah again,

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Speaker 2: show about honesty. You had the battle food poisoning, and then,

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Speaker 2: as I understand it, you also fell down the stairs.

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Speaker 2: So what I think I'm hearing here is that Dan Rubinstein?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, little.

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Speaker 2: Bruce Feldman body blow theory going on for you doing

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Speaker 2: this podcast?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? After well, it's life. Life is dealing me a

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Speaker 1: I'm a trooper. My streak continues. Well, it's good to

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Speaker 2: I hope everyone out there had a merry Christmas, happy honic,

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Speaker 2: a happy quantum whenever holiday suits you best thank you

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Speaker 2: for joining us again for the rest of us. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've got We've got one show here in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 2: six we're going to get into all of that momentarily.

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Speaker 1: Just checking in. Life is all right with you?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: I want to I don't want to be. Life is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't had a chance to train again for

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Speaker 2: But as everyone knows, there is a college football media day,

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Speaker 2: much like the Super Bowl Media Day, where the teams gather,

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Speaker 2: college football playoff Facebook Sports set. Yes, so a little

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Speaker 2: more pressing subjects, Daniel, Yes, I know you're on the

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Speaker 1: And previews and the like? Yeah, we got a deep

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Speaker 1: dive this bad boy mowers Gasparilla bawl. That's right, So

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Speaker 2: It's not breaking news in the conventional sense here on

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the DXL Frisco Bowl. This one was

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Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, and my favorite receiver running back duo of

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Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to the bad Boy Mower's

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Speaker 2: Gasparilla Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Gasparilla. Temple wins twenty.

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Speaker 2: Eight to three over FIU, and I got to say,

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Speaker 2: I did not please inform educate. Jeff Collins, first time

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Speaker 1: The better news is that Temple was awesome against FIU's

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Speaker 2: Let's the Ohio Bobcats win this one, forty one to

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: Youa be a good story. A couple of years ago

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Speaker 2: Okay, famous Idaho Potato Bowl Wyoming thirty seven, Central Michigan fourteen.

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Speaker 2: And in the meantime, though, nice win for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Wyoming and once again Wyoming rightfully came into the season

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Speaker 1: And you know, Craig bowl slowly but surely. I mean

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Speaker 2: Great job his head, the shape of the Oregona, just

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Speaker 2: South Florida wins thirty eight to thirty four. Quinton Flowers,

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Speaker 2: They gave him a vote of confidence. Yes, he'll be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they lost to a good team. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: The Armed Forces Bowl, Dan, Army forty two, San Diego

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Speaker 1: Why not be in the Armed Forces Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Dan? Yeah, maybe one of the better games will see

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Speaker 2: all Bowl season. I don't even know where to start

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Speaker 2: You know what Army wants to do. They want to

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Speaker 2: Daniel forty six minutes of possession for the Black Knights.

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Speaker 2: They ran sixty one more plays than San Diego State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really nice season for Army and Amad Bradshaw, A

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Speaker 2: The dollar general Bull app State thirty four mm hmm,

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Speaker 1: Yes, Zip got thirty Daniel, Yeah, what is this? So

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Speaker 1: But they're more like TCU and Ole miss to you

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Speaker 2: Dan Logan Woodside was Florida quarterback bad in this game.

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Speaker 1: Yes he was. That's very mean, but not false.

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Speaker 2: You said you started to look a little bit deeper

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Speaker 1: Straight up are fourteen and three. Okay, that's not bad. No,

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Speaker 1: I think UAB had a better S and P plus defense,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at my other picks here for the rest

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Speaker 1: I have the points per drive ranking, ready to go, okay,

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Speaker 2: A couple other ones very quickly. Three more before we

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Speaker 2: I believe on Christmas Eve. Fresno wins over Houston by

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Speaker 2: story for Fresno led by Jeff Tedford. Keep in mind,

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Speaker 2: On the Houston side, at Oliver, the all world everything

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Speaker 1: That's kind of fun fact touchdown. Yes, yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: That's right, Okay, the Zaxby's Heart of Dallas bull. Utah

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Speaker 2: I've been informed here in the year piece that the

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Speaker 1: I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about what West Virginia's drive

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Speaker 1: I would like nothing more West Virginia against Utah. Punt punt, punt,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can perfectly time his vocal lead in.

434
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Speaker 1: I do that sometimes, Ty, when I'm listening to music

435
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: like on Spotify something. Yeah, just like try it on

436
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: your own. I will one hundred I do that in

437
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: the car. My wife hates it, my brothers hate it,

438
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: my parents hate it because that's the serious XM voice.

439
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: It's it's one and the same where it's just like

440
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: Aerosmith A ninety two point four k bb. I. Yeah,

441
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: we had a drive somewhere.

442
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: It was during one of our national championship trips where

443
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, Dan and I did that for about

444
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: forty five minutes strong.

445
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: It's my favorite. Might have been a yeah. Anyway, where

446
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: were we here?

447
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: Uh? Utah, West Virginia thirty to fourteen. West Virginia looked

448
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: a bit of a tire fire in this game. I

449
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: don't think it was entirely unexpected. Thankfully, Will Griar didn't

450
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: play still healing up. Good for him, get healed up

451
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 2: for next season. I don't have much else to add

452
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: beyond that.

453
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: On their first so on their punt drives, Ty, so

454
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: there were I'm counting here, nine punts. How many of

455
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: those drives? Do you think? We're three and out? Eight

456
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: of ninety eight of nine. Yeah for three and out

457
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,239
Speaker 1: it was it was rough. No Will Greer and by

458
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: the way, shout out Kyle Whittingham. Now I think eleven

459
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: and one in Bowl games. Yeah, the most successful Bowl

460
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: coach of all time. I guess of coaches who've coached

461
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: more than six or seven.

462
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: All right, the Quick Lane Bowl Duke wins thirty six

463
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 2: to fourteen over NIU.

464
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: Where was this NIU defense that I was talking about?

465
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: I don't I didn't see any defense in this game.

466
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: No, no, not not much.

467
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: Sutton Smith was largely contented. Actually, it was the Duke

468
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 2: defense that came to play here. NIU was one of

469
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: twelve on third downs, ozho of six on fourth downs.

470
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: I guess the bright spot is that they went for

471
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: it six times on four down fourth downs. Yeah, which

472
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: is always exciting, but it'd be better if you got

473
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: one or two of them.

474
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: I watched a good chunk of this game, and Northern

475
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: Illinois was in the I'm losing this game of Madden

476
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: or NCAA, so whatever, I'm just I'm hitting why when

477
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: I should be hit next? On the play call screen,

478
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: just bombed every play bomb bomb bomb bomb fake punts

479
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: from your own end zone. I don't know if you

480
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: saw that moment, but that was it was just magnificent

481
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: tie it was. It wasn't even ballsy. It was just like,

482
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: screw it, screw everything, I'm going out. I'm taking everybody

483
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: out with me. The bunch through a terrible pass Uh,

484
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois did not acquit itself.

485
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: Well.

486
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was fine. He didn't throw downfield all that much,

487
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: but he completed a bunch of passes. Ran well, I

488
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: am so complexed by Daniel Jones this year. Yeah, took

489
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: a step back, definitely took a step back, and he

490
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: is step back. He is basically if if Sam Darnold

491
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: had like a little cousin who grew up idolizing him.

492
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just gonna do exactly what he does,

493
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: but without exactly the same level of talent, where He's

494
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: just gonna I'm gonna throw three dope passes and then

495
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: throw something that you have no idea what I was

496
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: thinking about, Like, I'm thinking about that steam Willie Homer

497
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: Simpson thing while throwing a pass. That was the Daniel

498
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: Jones experience in twenty sixteen.

499
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: And finally the Cactus Bowl, Kansas State wins thirty five

500
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: to seventeen over UCLA. Now, interesting factoid in this one. Yeah,

501
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: Josh Rosen apparently advised by his doctors not to play

502
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: in this game. You know, he suffered that concussion later

503
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: in the year. I'm a skeptic. Maybe that was true.

504
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: Maybe it was like convincing your doctor you have glaucoma.

505
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 2: Like I'm not sure, wow, Ty, what the exact scenario

506
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: was here. Either way, I do not blame him for

507
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: not playing in the Cactus Bowl, whether he was hurt

508
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: or not. I would expect that he will declare shortly

509
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: for the NFL Draft. Clearly this wasn't the way that

510
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: UCLA wanted to close out at season, but there are

511
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts there with the new coach

512
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: Ship Kelly Charles Ship Kelly coming on board here.

513
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I would say that it is much more likely

514
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: that Josh Rosen did in fact have an injury, and

515
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: it was not unfair to be overly precautious with a

516
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: head injury. With a brain injury, sure ahead of a

517
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: game like this, with you know, a future of playing

518
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL, I think it was sort of a

519
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: good mix of good reasons not to play in this game,

520
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: especially given the coaching change, I don't really think that

521
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: had much to do with it. I will say this though,

522
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen I thought spoke super well about not criticizing

523
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: players not playing in bowl games before this game. I

524
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: thought he made a lot of I love good points

525
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: that it's easy to sort of from Afar and ty

526
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: Lord knows we say a lot of things. From Afar,

527
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: I did not excuse what we say at all. But

528
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, when you don't know the personal situations of

529
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: players deciding to skip games, whether it's a health reason,

530
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: whether it's a financial reason that they want to stay

531
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: with the team, they want to play in Bowl games,

532
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: but you know they have a financial situation where going

533
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: to the NFL and not jeopardize in their draft stock

534
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: makes just a little bit more sense instead of playing

535
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: in the line look the bad boy Mower's Gasparilla Bay

536
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: something like that.

537
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: Completely fine with him not playing. I believe that's why

538
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 2: only one member of the broadcasting duo had the audacity

539
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: and really the foresight to say that if Josh Rosen

540
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: came down with something before this game, it wouldn't surprise me.

541
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: I don't blame him at all for not playing. I'm

542
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: just a bit of a skeptic here, because hey, I

543
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: called it and it seemed like it was a little

544
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: too convenient. I hope it works out well for him.

545
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: The one thing that scares me a little bit with

546
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: Rosen now is he moves on to the NFL. He's

547
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: a really sharp cookie, really smart guy. He strikes me

548
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: and I'm going to make a golf reference here, which

549
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: please try not to squirm, but.

550
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: Reminds from Manhattan Beach. That's fine.

551
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: Reminds me a little bit of like when Tiger Woods

552
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: decided he wanted to try and tinker with his swing,

553
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: or what's the guy Bryson d. Chambeau who's trying to

554
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: reinvent the golf swing. There's going to be a moment

555
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: in Josh Rosen's career where he thinks he's figured out

556
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: some entirely new way to go about something, and that

557
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: may or may not work on the NFL level.

558
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine. I thought the worst, you know.

559
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: I tweeted something about his career in general, that it

560
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: would have been nice to see him in a more

561
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: stable place, because I think he had three different offensive

562
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: coordinators and a defense that swung from really good in

563
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen to just completely embarrassing in twenty seventeen, and

564
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 1: that continued against Kansas State where they allowed nearly three

565
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards rushing in the Cactus Bowl. That

566
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: it would have been cool to see Josh Rosen in

567
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: a more stable place, And ultimately, I think the worst

568
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: decision Josh Rosen made at UCLA was deciding to go

569
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: to UCLA probably and to sort of you know, there

570
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: are stories about how he sort of turned off Stanford's

571
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: coaching staff and they didn't really want to offer him

572
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: or accept his commitment, and that, you know, I think

573
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: I think his career would have looked. It would not

574
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: have ended with a lower draft pick or a higher

575
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: draft pick, because he's probably gonna go in the top three,

576
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: but we would have been able to see Josh Rosen

577
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: in a more state place, behind a more stable line

578
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: with Christian McCaffrey and Bryce Love. You know, it's a

579
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: sort of what could have been if if everything had

580
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: worked out with that situation.

581
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: And yep, one final point on the Cactus Bowl. Still

582
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: awaiting word on the future for Bill Snyder. We don't

583
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: know what his deal is going to be moving forward

584
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: as head football coach k State obviously very successful. Nice

585
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: way to go out winning team against UCLA in a

586
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: fun bowl game.

587
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: But we will wait and see what the future holds

588
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: there really weird and ultimately fun. I guess season for

589
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: Kansas State. I mean they held onto the ball a

590
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: ton against the Bruins and Alex Delton, Alex Barnes ran wild.

591
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: I was watching this game with the in laws of

592
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: my father in law watching, you know, shout out to

593
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: Joel obviously watching. I think it was an Alex Barnes

594
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: run in the second half where he just sort of

595
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: went untouched for thirty eight yards and my father in

596
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: law went, wait, where's the safety, so somebody should touch

597
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: him in the second level. No, no, that's not how

598
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: you see it. Defense works, and we'll see what happens

599
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: next year. I can only assume they've hired a very

600
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: good linebackers coach to get Nope, no, nope, nope, all right,

601
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: moving on, damn we got balls. The preview yes.

602
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: The week. Whoo, okay, this is going to be Bowl

603
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: preview officially number four here on the solid verbal.

604
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: We've timed this out.

605
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: We've scheduled this out in a way that we haven't

606
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: done in the past. We've done this now for ten

607
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: full college football seasons, and I can say definitively that

608
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: in none of those previous years have we ever previewed

609
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: bowl games in such a regimented and scheduled fashion.

610
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: We actually thought this through. We're full on grown ups. Ty, yeah,

611
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: we have matured to the point where we're able to

612
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: do this.

613
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: So let's let's get into dangerous territory now with your bullpicks. Okay,

614
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: we are officially in this arena now where hopefully you've

615
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: locked in, You've gotten the early games out of the way,

616
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: You've put most of your confidence points on those earlier games.

617
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: Because the games that we're about to talk about are

618
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: the ones that I am least confident in. And it's

619
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: not because I don't know the teams as well. Actually

620
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: I know these teams better, but it feels to me

621
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: like most of these matchups, with a couple exceptions, are closer.

622
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: They could go one way or the other.

623
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: We've got a lot of partly talented teams that we're

624
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: going to talk about here, not the least of which

625
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: is the two big playoff games, which we'll discuss last

626
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: here on the program. Let's start with the Goodyear Cotton

627
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: Bowl Classic. They play this one in Arlington at AT

628
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: and T Stadium. It's on December the twenty ninth at

629
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: eight thirty pm on ESPN, and it's a big one.

630
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: It's one of the games I'm most excited to see.

631
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: We've got the Ohio State Buckeyes. We've got the USC Trojans.

632
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: Ohio State's a seven and half point favorite. Here, Dan,

633
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: what's our gift situation?

634
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: All right? Ty? So the Cotton Bowl Classic, the Goodyear

635
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl Classic, Classics, the class the Classic. Now you

636
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: think Texas, you think everything's bigger in Texas. You know,

637
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: bigger bowl sweet bigger gifts. You know we draw attention food. Yes,

638
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: of course we want to show that we're the biggest

639
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: and best. The Cotton Bowl is not disclosing, really their

640
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: gift situation, as per Sports Business Journal, not disclosed. Wow,

641
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: Which why I hope there's a lot of bluetooth. I

642
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: hope there's a lot of sweat wicking fabrics. I don't know.

643
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: Cotton doesn't wick away the sweat, It absorbs it. It

644
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: makes you cold when you sweat.

645
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: And maybe they're embarrassed by that tie. Maybe they're embarrassed.

646
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's something good. I'm sure US Ohio State,

647
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: you know, the scrappy little underdogs finally get a break

648
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: and get something good gift wise. But nope, there's no

649
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: disclosure of bowl gifts.

650
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: So Shaye Patterson, Okay, Yeah, moving on to the actual game.

651
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: I look, I worry.

652
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: I always worry about picking against a team that feels

653
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: like it has something to prove in a bowl game.

654
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: To your earlier point about motivation, what drives a bowl team?

655
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: And I know USC he might fall a little bit

656
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: into that category. But Ohio State this year. Dog, If

657
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: they don't define it, I don't know who does.

658
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: Really well, yeah they I understand they disappointed they're not

659
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: in the playoff.

660
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: Sure they won the Big Ten, they were passed over

661
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: for the College Football Playoff. They got a senior quarterback

662
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: in JT. Barrett who has been perpetually disrespected as a

663
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: starter for his team. Clearly he's going to be motivated.

664
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: This is like his last hurrah. He's not going to

665
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: be playing quarterback in the NFL. Hate to break the

666
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: news to folks out there, But most importantly, I think

667
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: they've got an offense that's going to push on all

668
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: the pressure points of this SC defense. S played a

669
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: team all year with an offense that can beat you

670
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: seventeen different ways like Ohio State can't. They also haven't

671
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: played a defense this good, which will be an interesting

672
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: challenge for Sam Darnold. But I think the combination of

673
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: motivation with scheme, which what I think is a big

674
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 2: time coaching mismatch in Urban Meyer versus Clay Hilton, there's

675
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: a lot that goes in Ohio State's favor here. The

676
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: fans will travel, well, there's a lot of Ohio State

677
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: people down there to begin with, so I'm going to

678
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: go Ohio State here. Again, not a ton of confidence

679
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: points in any of these games, only four for me,

680
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: but I like Ohio State here and I'm pretty confident

681
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: about it.

682
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a shame this year just in looking

683
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: back at USC specifically that they didn't have an opportunity

684
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: to play against Washington because their wins were you know,

685
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: Stanford twice, which is very good. It was not a

686
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: great Stanford team, but that's good. They beat Utah, But

687
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: outside of that, there wasn't much in the way of

688
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: like a top fifty, top sixty win for this USC team. Defensively,

689
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: I think a little bit to be desired. I didn't

690
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: love their secondary at times they weren't great against the run.

691
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: But offensively, you know, you have Sam Darnold, who, in

692
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: terms of outside of Baker Mayfield, the ceiling of playmaking was,

693
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, extremely high up. There's no question that you know,

694
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: when he had to roll out of the pocket and

695
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: look downfield, he was able to make plays that a

696
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks are just flat out unable when he's

697
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: not throwing picks. There's a ton of talent in the

698
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: backfield with Stephen Carr and the Texas Tesla Ronald Jones,

699
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: But against a team like Ohio State, I don't see

700
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: a lot I love. I think Ohio State's defensive line

701
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: can overwhelm USC's offensive line. I don't love the fact

702
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: that Ohio State, when they're just smart and give it

703
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: to JK. Dobbins, which is the smartest possible thing Ohio

704
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: State can do, dominated everybody and looked like a playoff team,

705
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: where USC at times, even in wins, you know, a

706
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: close win against Utah with their backup quarterback at home.

707
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: I like USC a bunch, but I think the the

708
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: talent differential on Ohio State's defense against USC's offense. And

709
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: I know USC has receivers that have improved. The younger

710
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: guys Tyler Vaughan, Stephen Mitchell, those guys improved over the

711
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: course of the season. I don't know how they get

712
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: loose against Ohio State's defense consistently. So Ohio State with

713
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: the better points per drive defense tie and that's it's

714
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: by a considerable margin. I'm taking them to win the

715
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl. And here's the big controversy. Yeah, I'll say

716
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: controversial thing. Ty I think Ohio State breaks their scoreless

717
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: streak in the postseason. What I think they do? I

718
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: think they break that streak. I don't think they go

719
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: two years in a row of not scoring a single

720
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: point in the postseason. Wow, I'm out on that, LIMB

721
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 1: check me off. How many confidence points are you putting

722
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: on this? Not a lot? Uh low? Teens? Twelve, thirteen, Wow,

723
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: somewhere on there. Okay. I like Sam Darnold. I like

724
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: what he was able to, you know, raise his game

725
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: up to last year against Penn State, but that was

726
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: in the Rose Bowl. I don't think this USC team

727
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: is as good as it was last year on offense.

728
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: So I'm going to Ohio State.

729
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 2: Here we agree, go to the tax Slayer Bowl.

730
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: Yes, who's up for slaying some taxes? Oh that's a

731
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: loaded question, ty.

732
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: Ever bank Field in Jacksonville, Florida. They play this one

733
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: on December the thirtieth at high noon. It's on ESPN.

734
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: We've got Loulville a six and a half point favorite

735
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: over in Mississippi State. Several alerts that I need to

736
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: mention to all y'all.

737
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: But before we do, what are our gifts here? What's

738
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: our gift situation?

739
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: Dan?

740
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: The tax Layer Bowl has generally has generously excused me.

741
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: Decided to gift people with Oh, the Cold War still

742
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: rages on. Well, there's a gift suite, no idea. What's

743
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: in the gift suite? Fossil Watch, so a shot across

744
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: the bow obviously early on in our Bowl preview against Timely,

745
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: so the Fossil Watch in this one.

746
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: There are some other watch companies getting in on the

747
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: fun here.

748
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: There's a blow.

749
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: I did notice that, Yeah, the Cold War, the watch

750
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 2: Cold War. So we've got a whoop whoop new coaching alert. Yes,

751
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: and that Dan Mullen left Mississippi State for Florida. Joemo

752
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: Joe Morehead, coming over from Penn State, will not be

753
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: coaching the bowl game, not pulling the sunny Dikes. We've

754
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: also got whoop whoop injured star quarterback alert in Nick Fitzgerald.

755
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 2: You might remember he had that ugly dislocated ankle injury

756
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: in the Egg Bowl for Mississippi State, so he ain't

757
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: playing this one either. I don't think there's much need

758
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: to overthink this one, Dan. I do like Mississippi State's defense.

759
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: They played pretty well on that side of the football

760
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: all year. But I think, like any other game, Lamar

761
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 2: Jackson gonna have like four hundred total yards. I think

762
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna jump all over Mississippi State, and it's going

763
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: to be tough for Mississippi State to really score with

764
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: the Cardinals in this one. So I think louis the

765
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: wins comfortably going away. They cover six and a half,

766
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: they win by fourteen. I like Louisville to the tune

767
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: of like twenty nine confidence points here.

768
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Yeah. The injured quarterback Nick Fitzgerald

769
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: certainly was a huge piece or the biggest piece for

770
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: for Mississippi State. And the fact that we have an

771
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: interim staff, the fact that I don't think we love

772
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: this Mississippi State defense, even you know, up front, there's

773
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: there's a good amount of talent with with Sweat Green

774
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Simmons, and they were good. They took a

775
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: lot of chances with Todd Grantham, who's also you know,

776
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: his head and I don't know if he's coaching this game,

777
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: but he's moving on to Florida. Gave up a lot

778
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: of big plays and Louisville is a big play team.

779
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: And even though this is what worries me ty because

780
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: the defensive pick factor, Louisll's defense is significantly worse than

781
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: Mississippi State's and Mississippi State's defense, albeit coaching staff and

782
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: quarterback are gone, their their defenses is relatively intact. And

783
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: Louisville's best win best win was perdue. They lose to

784
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: a pretty decent and okay Boston College team, Yes plucky,

785
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: I don't know you like that word. Yeah, it's a

786
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: good word. Louisll's offense was great even with the bad

787
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: field position that the defense put them in. It was

788
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: an all Lamar Jackson team.

789
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: We've got we've got competing theories here at play because

790
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: there's no coach, new coach theory against your newly christened

791
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: analytics points per drive a loud thing.

792
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: Right, It's it's basically the abstract versus the tangible.

793
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 2: Why don't you go with Mississippi State here outright, and

794
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: I'll go with Lowellville and we'll we'll put this to

795
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: the test once and.

796
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: For all right. I'm going to Mississippi State because I

797
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: like the defense. All Right, we disagree.

798
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 2: The AutoZone Liberty Bowl, dan They played at Liberty Bowl

799
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: Stadium in Memphis, Tennessee.

800
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to an AutoZone? Yeah, I've gotten

801
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: in the zone. Tie.

802
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: I was at an AutoZone a couple months back when

803
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: my rear tail light went out and I decided on

804
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: the Sunday morning that I me, of course, being the

805
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: gearhead that I am, I was going to check it

806
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: over there to the nearest AutoZone, get in the zone

807
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: and get my new my new tail light. They promptly

808
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: gave me the wrong model, dan Ah. Not only did

809
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: it not fit in the light socket, but after I

810
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: forced it in there, broke it and tried to start

811
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: up the car and pump on the pump on the brakes,

812
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: it didn't light up.

813
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: Is this an extended Memphis defense metaphor? Is that what

814
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: it could be? We're in for Okay, I'm because I'm

815
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: here for it times I am here for it. Okay,

816
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: what are we doing?

817
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: Twelve December thirtieth, excuse me at twelve thirty, twelve thirty

818
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: at twelve thirty, if you will, on ABC, We've got

819
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: the Memphis Tigers, a three and a half point favorite,

820
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: basically a home game against the Iowa State Cyclones, the

821
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: darling of yours truly, the Iowa State Cyclones. I'm seeing

822
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: here a bass, pro shops shopping trip, a Belova Caravel, watch,

823
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 2: Nike athletic shoes, sports sandals and backpack, and a football.

824
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: That's not a bad selection right there.

825
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: That feels pretty good. If you're into like an outdoors

826
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: way of life. You get the best pro shops, shopping

827
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: spree whatever. You get the watch, you get some Nikes,

828
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: that's great, some sandals I wish I forgot my sandals.

829
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: I like wearing sandals around the house, sports sandals, backpack,

830
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: you got football. It's pretty good. You get to be

831
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: on network television. Yeah, that's great.

832
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: Every number I could find for this game was screaming

833
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: for me to take Memphis. Why mainly because of the offense. Okay,

834
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: Iowa State's been my team all year, and you know

835
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 2: they've had time to prepare for Memphis in the passing game.

836
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: They've been really good on defense all year. I think

837
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: Matt Campbell's going to steer into his running game here

838
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: with David Montgomery. I think they're gonna want to play

839
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: a little bit of army ball here and do their

840
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: best to eat up the clock, keep it out of

841
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: Memphis's hands, and just try to run the air out

842
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: of the football. I like Iowa State. I'm going to

843
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: stick with it. I'm going to go crazy to the

844
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: tune of twenty six confidence points. I'm going to take

845
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 2: them out right. I'd imagine this also plays nicely into

846
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: your d analytics theory.

847
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: It does play nicely in the analytics. And Memphis had

848
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: a spectacular leader spectacular year, excuse me, all things considered,

849
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: second year with Mike Norvel. They beat UCLA, which UCLA

850
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: didn't have the greatest season, but this is of course

851
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: early September Ucla, and anytime you beat a big name

852
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: Power five program at Memphis, that's a big deal. They

853
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: beat Houston. They lose to a clear top ten team

854
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: twice in UCF. Their offense was nothing short of terrific,

855
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: a ton of explosive plays through the air. Riley Ferguson

856
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller is probably one of the best three quarterback

857
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: to receiver duos in the country just in terms of

858
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: production and excitement. They were good on the ground, generating

859
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: bigger plays. They weren't particularly efficient running the ball. I

860
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: didn't love the Memphis defense with how much they were

861
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: able to just allow through the air. But Iowa State,

862
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: and you talk about team that has faced top level quarterbacks,

863
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: beaten top level quarterbacks, beating Oklahoma, TCU, Texas Tech, you know,

864
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: a couple of not great but okay losses to West

865
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: Virginia and Kansas State. Iowa State was They were a

866
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: team that depended I wouldn't say depended on but they

867
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: were particularly talented at turning the ball over, turning other

868
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: teams over. Specifically once they got to Kyle Kemp they

869
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: were better on offense from Jacob Park. Their run defense

870
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: was terrific, but you have to if you're gonna beat Memphis,

871
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: you have to at least get some stops to the air.

872
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: You know, get stops on third and six, whatever, and

873
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: I think Iowa State is good enough to do that.

874
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: The past defense wasn't the best thing they did, but

875
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: if they can force a couple turnovers, I think they're

876
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: in a good position to win this game. I like

877
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell and this staff with time, I like the continuity.

878
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: I know Memphis, I think they lose their offensive coordinator

879
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: to Texas A and M. I don't know if he's

880
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: here for this game, but certainly it could be a

881
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: factor in their preparation. So even though the game is

882
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: in Memphis at the Liberty Bowl, I'm gonna go Iowa

883
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: State here. I'm gonna go with that experience, with the

884
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: D analytics, with S and P plus, I'm going with

885
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: the defense here. That I worry a little bit about

886
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Memphis in the same way I worry about UCF. That

887
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: are they a team that can win in different ways

888
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: if forced to? And I think I always say, can

889
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: slop up this game, give me the Clones. They're gonna

890
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: be unkempt unkemped boom. All right, let's move on to

891
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl. Dan, Yeah, they play this one

892
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: at the University of Phoenix, Stadium. This game really does

893
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: it for me, Ty, I am very excited for this.

894
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: You are here for the Glendale PlayStation Fiesta Bowl, Dan.

895
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: I think this one of December thirtieth, four pm on ESPN,

896
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: Penn State, my dear Alma mater, a two point favorite

897
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: over the Washington Huskies. You might guess what the gift

898
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: suite entails here in the PlayStation Wink link nudge nudge,

899
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: Fiesta Bowl, Dan.

900
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: Yes, you get a PlayStation four, right, that's what we're on.

901
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: Four.

902
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: You get a PS four pro bundle. I don't know

903
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: what that involves. If you get like a like a

904
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: badge or a sash.

905
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: Maybe you get maybe you get a second controller.

906
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get a second controller. They don't have cables

907
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: anymore of these controllers, do they?

908
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: No? No, I mean you have to plug it in.

909
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: I think to charge the charge. It got one of

910
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 2: the high falutin chargers.

911
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I can tell you this much, Ti. I'm

912
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: not getting a PS four until the NCAA series returns.

913
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: I thought you had a PS four, Now I have

914
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: PS three. Wow.

915
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: So this has been a silent protest side Well, that's

916
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: basically the only game I play.

917
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: At one point I tried to get into FIFA, but

918
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: I realized that I would have to spend a ton

919
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: of time to get competent at FIFA, and so I'm

920
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: just I'm rolling with the NC DOUBLEA series whenever I'm back.

921
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm an avid FIFA player. I know I'm any good

922
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: at it at all, But you've put in time to

923
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: just get to be below average, right, I'm below average

924
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: is being very kind, but yeah, yeah, correct, that is correct.

925
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you get a PS four pro bundle. I

926
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: don't know if that with a bunch of games or what.

927
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: You have a Fossil Watch. Okay, so double Fossil early

928
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: and an Ogo backpack. I think that's a very good

929
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: And you get to go to Arizona. You have to

930
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: go to Washington. If you're Washington, you can sort of

931
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: make up for the last time you went to Arizona.

932
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: If you're penn State, you don't have to be in

933
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: central Pennsylvania in what early January. That's great.

934
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: This is also the scene of the crime where Bill

935
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: Hancock and I shared a giant bowl of Tostillo's chips.

936
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: That's true. Tostito's no longer I guess involved with the festival.

937
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: Here's the great News too, and because we have a

938
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: special what kinship towards penn State fans alumni whatever, because

939
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: you went there. Yeah, I can't assume I haven't really

940
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: gone searching for great food in Central Pa and State College.

941
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: But if you're going to this game, if you're from Seattle,

942
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: if you're from Washington, if you're from Central Pa, from

943
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: anywhere in Pennsylvania, the Northeast, great food, the greater Phoenix area,

944
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: Austin Pizzeria Bianco, what was that? What was that Mexican

945
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 1: place we went to? Remember we went to one place

946
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: called tacos chioas we went to one place. Oh no,

947
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: we didn't go there. We went and got torta. Somewhere

948
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: you don't need to go to tacos Chi was Chi

949
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: was or Las Santi Sema for tacos and Phoenix very

950
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: good pizza, Cleta PiZZ I, c l e. T t

951
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: A good pizza as well too, Arizona and namely Phoenix

952
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: secretly really good pizza place.

953
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: Well, this is going to be a fun football game,

954
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: and if you do have the distinct pleasure of going

955
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: to see it, please do send us pictures and let

956
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: us know what the weather's like.

957
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: Out there. It's going to be better than it is here.

958
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: Enjoy your time, Enjoy Dan this is I think this

959
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: is a poor man's version of Clemson versus Alabama.

960
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: I'd say so, yeah, because what makes a.

961
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: Game like this interesting is the contrasting styles that we're

962
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 2: going to see at play. Penn State in the analogy,

963
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: would obviously be more like Clemson. They've got a lot

964
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: of the run pass option stuff, more wide open Washington

965
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: a lot more like Alabama, a lot more like Alabama

966
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: from a couple of years ago before they had Jalen

967
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 2: Hurts and Blake Simms. More of that pro style, vanilla offense, play,

968
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: bruising defense, that style of play. It'll be interesting to

969
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: see these two teams go at each other. I do

970
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 2: want to circle back, though, to something you've been saying

971
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: all year about the Washington Huskies. We've sort of been

972
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: waiting for them to find another.

973
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: Gear, Yeah, especially an offense. Yeah.

974
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: Right, Like last year, you could feel a little bit

975
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: more confident that Washington was gonna go out there and

976
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna rip the arms and legs off somebody and

977
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: just beat the crap out of them. This year, it

978
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: felt like that component was missing.

979
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Yeah, they had decent wins, but

980
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, they beat Fresno, which you know more and

981
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: more looks like a good win. Was it was pretty

982
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: good in terms of win. They beat Oregon. They killed

983
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: Oregon without Justin Herbert, but they would have beaten them

984
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert anyway. They beat Utah. They lose to

985
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: ASU and Stanford, and the performances in those two games,

986
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: especially against ASU on offense, it was a pretty disappointing

987
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: way to lose. I'd say fair to say, yeah, both

988
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: these teams, there actually is a good amount in common.

989
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: So in big games, both of these teams missed I

990
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: would say a big downfield threat receiver right and Chris

991
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: Godwin and John Ross. Absolutely yeah, both both teams without

992
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator. Joe Moore had gone, Jonathan Smith gone

993
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: taking head coaching jobs at Power five schools. Sure, and

994
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: led by I think maybe unexpectedly defensive performances. Jason Combinda

995
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: was great, Marcus Allen had a great year in the

996
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: secondary for Penn State. And when Washington was healthy, you know,

997
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: they have one of the best interior alignment in the

998
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: country and Vita Vea the secondary went healthy albeit young,

999
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: great couple of safeties. You know, Byron Murphy's healthy in

1000
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: this game, he should stick on somebody really well for Washington.

1001
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to like about these teams that

1002
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: are both dealing with I wouldn't say full on issues,

1003
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: but wrinkles concerns that are that are very similar. I

1004
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: would agree with that. I and really good run in

1005
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley and Miles Gaskin. Absolutely.

1006
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk here about how Washington's defense

1007
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: is going to give Penn State fits, and I can

1008
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: see that. I think that's true to an extent, especially

1009
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: since you mentioned Penn State turning over their offensive coordinator

1010
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: Ricky Ronnie stepping in now for Joe Moorehead. He's going

1011
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: to be taking over play call duties, so there's always

1012
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: a little bit of an awkward transition when something like

1013
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: that goes down. I really do think, though, that Penn

1014
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: State's defense is going to be going to be the

1015
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: X factor here. If they can bottle up Miles Gaskin,

1016
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: if they can force Washington to be more dependent on

1017
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: the pass, I think that really favors them. I'm a

1018
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: Penn State alone. I gotta go with my heart here,

1019
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: I gotta Penn State. I don't know if I well,

1020
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 2: it's it two points. I gotta go Penn State outright

1021
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: to the two of nine confidence points. But I think

1022
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: this is going to be an awesome game to watch.

1023
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: I think the best thing in this game is still

1024
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: probably Washington's defense. On I think they're pretty healthy at

1025
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: this point. You know, getting the secondary back to where

1026
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: it should be should help against a Penn State team

1027
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: that really when they were playing their best, they were

1028
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: throwing downfield, and Sequon Barkley helped, I think more as

1029
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: an all purpose guy rather than a consistent ground thread

1030
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: against the better defenses Penn State face. But still, this

1031
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: Penn State team was what the end of the Ohio

1032
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: State game away from being in playoff consideration. So this

1033
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: was it was an excellent Penn State team about ninety

1034
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: four percent of the time, basically the Michigan State team

1035
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: the Michigan State game nonwithstanding, I think though that the

1036
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: combination of Washington's defensive line, I really like Pete Kwakowski,

1037
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator for the Huskies. The fact that it's

1038
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: on the West Coast I think helps a little bit

1039
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: for Washington. The familiarity they're not traveled. I mean, you know,

1040
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: Penn State will be their days and days ahead of time.

1041
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be able to bottle up

1042
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. I think they'll be able to get to

1043
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: trace McSorley enough they won't contain him fully. But I'm

1044
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: going to roll with what I think is the strongest

1045
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: and most continuous part of this game, which is the

1046
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: Washington defense and their ability to get pressure with four guys.

1047
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to go Washington close here, and honestly, the

1048
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: whatever the D analytics s and P plus, it's nearly identical.

1049
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: Washington seventh, Penn State sixth, and Washington had a stronger

1050
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: I think, schedule outside of the conference whatever. So I'm

1051
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: going to go with the Huskies here. Wow, so we disagree,

1052
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: we disagree. Penn State had one big win. They beat Michigan.

1053
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: They did beat Michigan.

1054
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: That was the that was their win, all right, Umm,

1055
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: I gotta go Penn State outright, So what is the

1056
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: real gain? Let's go to the Capitol One Orange Bowl, Dan,

1057
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: What's in your wallet? In hard Rock Stadium, Miami, Florida.

1058
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: Also on December of the thirtieth, they played it at

1059
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: eight pm on ESPN. We've got the Wisconsin Badgers. Badgers

1060
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 2: coming down from the northern part of the Great USA,

1061
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 2: a six and a half point favorite against the home town,

1062
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: home dog, home team, Yeah, home team, Miami Hurricanes. Dan,

1063
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: I noticed that there is a different kind of watch

1064
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: I watch that I've never seen before.

1065
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Now we've mentioned this brand before, I think we have.

1066
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: Maybe they were at the Orange Bowl last year. I

1067
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: don't know. There's a gift suite. There's the Torneau watch

1068
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: t o you are? Is that the former first baseman

1069
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: for the Minnesota Twins. Yeah, justin Torneau. Did you not

1070
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: know Life brand hat? But that's Life with a Why

1071
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: I look these up? They make a denim hat that

1072
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: says dad and has a rose on it. How does

1073
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: the Torneau watch look? Does that look at least? It's

1074
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: it's fine. Yeah, they're in Chicago, so there's that. There

1075
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: we go. I can go get one today if I

1076
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: if I wanted to, and an ice shaker, water bottle

1077
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: and shaker cup. Stay hydrated in Miami, Folks, How do

1078
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: you feel about this game? Dan? I think I like

1079
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: Wisconsin here. I think there's more to like about Wisconsin

1080
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 1: at this point. You know, Miami without I'm on Richards.

1081
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: We saw what that looked like against Clemson and a

1082
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: good defense, I mean great defense like Wisconsin also has

1083
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: I struggle with feeling super confident about it because it's

1084
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: it's a literal home game Iami. I changed my pick.

1085
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: I changed my pick.

1086
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: I once was where you are, Yeah, please educate me,

1087
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: And it dawned to me that this game was tearing

1088
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 2: me apart.

1089
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, emotionally apt.

1090
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: My gut is one hundred percent to go with Wisconsin

1091
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: because they're so good on defense. That is going to

1092
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: be a real issue from Miami one way or another.

1093
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 2: But then you think about it and Okay, like you said,

1094
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: a literal home game from Miami on their home field,

1095
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: big game city, big game town, big game team, they're

1096
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: going to be rocking a lot of home folks going

1097
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: to be at that game. Uh. Their defense is also

1098
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 2: pretty good m hm. And you might remember this little

1099
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 2: apparatus they call the turnover chain, right, I do remember

1100
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: people been talking about it.

1101
00:56:58,719 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: It's in the Smithsonian.

1102
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: Now. If there is anybody in college football who was

1103
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 2: born to add links to that chain, it might be

1104
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: Alex Honybrook.

1105
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: Oh does anybody who would know it would be somebody

1106
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: who was forced to watch a lot of Brandon Wimbush.

1107
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1108
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: The turnover chain could play a factor in the shootball game.

1109
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: I don't like this pick at all, but I am

1110
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: going to change it from Wisconsin eight confidence points to

1111
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: Miami eight confidence points just because it's an on game

1112
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: and I struggled with it so much. I think there

1113
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: will be an added layer of motivation here, being that

1114
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: it's at home.

1115
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to go Miami. Do you think there's motivation

1116
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: because they're at home or do you think there might

1117
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: be malaise? I think at home they're going to be rocking.

1118
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: It's a night game. No, they're going to be rocking. See,

1119
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: I think it might. They were in the ACC Championship

1120
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: and if they win that, they there's a good shot

1121
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: there in the playoff. They're not going it. They're not

1122
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: going to the Rose Bowl. They're not going to the

1123
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: Sugar Bowl. They're not going Yes, you know there's not

1124
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: They're just playing a home game.

1125
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: I know I'm changing my pick to Miami. I think

1126
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: there's gonna be an added layer of motivation.

1127
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Miami has the better resume in beating

1128
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech and Notre Dame, and you know, the win

1129
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: that Wisconsin has over FAU looks better and better it does.

1130
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: They beat Michigan surprisingly enough, they beat you know, our

1131
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: pretty decent Northwestern team. They lose to Ohio State close

1132
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten Championship game when they would lean

1133
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: on Jonathan Taylor's tailback. Of course, you know, he rushes

1134
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: for almost two thousand yards. I don't think that Wisconsin

1135
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: is going to try and throw the ball more than

1136
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: they feel they need to. I don't think they're going

1137
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: to be throwing into the teeth all that much into

1138
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: this Miami defense. You know, the defense is basically as

1139
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: good as anybody not in the playoff, if not better

1140
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: than certain teams in the playoffs, certainly better than Oklahoma's defense.

1141
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: They lose their you know, Wisconsin was their excuse me,

1142
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: they're outside linebackers. Coach, he's taking over the Oregon State

1143
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: defense and Wisconsin's outside linebacker. You it's very specific tie.

1144
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: But with Joe Show and Vince Beagle and TJ. Watt,

1145
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: maybe that's a factor. I don't know. I like I

1146
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: like Wisconsin. I think I think looking at where Miami

1147
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: struggled late in the year seeing them throw into good

1148
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: defenses without am On Richard, that scares me a little bit.

1149
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: I really should. Yeah so, And as much as I

1150
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: do like this Miami defense r J McIntosh, Joe Jackson,

1151
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: Shaquill Quorterman all year long, they were really fast, they

1152
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: were angry, they played really well as many daz defense

1153
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: was fun. I'm willing Wisconsin here just because I they're

1154
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: my my more secure pick. I'm not willing to go

1155
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: out on a limb for this Miami team right now.

1156
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: All right, suit yourself. We disagree.

1157
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: We disagree.

1158
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: The outback ball Raymond James Stadium in Tampa, Florida, on

1159
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: New Year's Day at High New twenty eighteen on ESPN two,

1160
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: Michigan Wolverine's an eight point favorite over the South Carolina

1161
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: game Cocks. The gift to all for ballers, the gift

1162
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: of college football fans is our good friend, Ryan Nanny.

1163
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: He will be the Fryan Bloomin' Onion, the frying Onion,

1164
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: Fryan Nanny, Fryan Nanny, whatever you want to call it.

1165
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: He will be serving as the blooming onion mascot in

1166
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: the third quarter. I believe of this football contest.

1167
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was gonna say that's that's the gift

1168
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: that keeps on giving. But the Outback Bowl will be

1169
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: giving away a Justin's ring. We all know Justin's a

1170
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: fossil watch. Here comes Fossil Yeah, one hundred and twenty

1171
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: five dollars best Buy gift card, Outback Steakhouse gift card

1172
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: and a hat and the gift of seeing Ryan Nanny

1173
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: in a unit tard with a novelty vegetable around it,

1174
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: a novelty appetizer. And of course, are our good friend

1175
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: Adam Amine on the call. Wow, I didn't know he

1176
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: was working this game. Adam Amine is doing this game.

1177
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: He will be taking the Ryan Nanny situation very seriously.

1178
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: I want to say, I don't know if Ryan's the

1179
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: whole game or the third quarter? Is Is it the

1180
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: third quarter? I hope the third quarter. I hope it's

1181
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: acknowledged in a some sort of Renaldi situation. I hope

1182
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: it's acknowledged in a you know, maybe there's just like

1183
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: a box the bottom of the screen, like how they

1184
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: would they keep it on a coach, Or maybe there's

1185
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: an arrow like when Reggie Bush played for USC got

1186
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: to keep tabs on where Reggie Bush is lining up.

1187
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: Here's where the onion is the game changing performance right now? Absolutely, yes, yes,

1188
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: yes so good gift situation, better life situation, and a

1189
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: rematch of the Vince Smith head being popped off by

1190
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: Jadavian Clowney.

1191
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 2: Also, all of those things you just mentioned might be

1192
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: better than this actual football game.

1193
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's also fair. That's why we spent time. I

1194
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: was looking at this game from every which way.

1195
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and outside of LSU Notre Dame, which I'll talk

1196
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: about here in a little bit, I think this is

1197
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: the game I'm the least excited to pay attention to

1198
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: on New Year's.

1199
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: South Carolina is you know, it's They're not bad, they're

1200
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: not great, They're just they They're there.

1201
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: They're there. I haven't been enamored with South Carolina and

1202
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: their offense all year, like nobody has. Right, this is

1203
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: obviously a nice cherry on top of their season to

1204
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: go into a big bowl game like this. Sure, I

1205
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: just don't think they can move the ball against Michigan.

1206
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: Michigan's got such a good defense, and look, I know

1207
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: Michigan fans weren't entirely excited about what went on in

1208
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, but if you truly go back and look

1209
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: at it if you consider all the pieces they lost

1210
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: from a year ago and now look at an eight

1211
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: and four season where you know, Loston, Michigan State, all right,

1212
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 2: that might have been one where they shouldn't have lost,

1213
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: but Loston, Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin. It's not like

1214
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: they were losing to Kentucky like South Carolina was teams

1215
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: that they probably shouldn't lose to.

1216
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: This mission season was so weird to me. It was

1217
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: such because the defense was really good. They'd be like

1218
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: they'd hold a team like one yard rush rush for

1219
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: no gain, negative two yard rush, one yard rush, eighty

1220
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: one yard rush. That was the defense. It was like,

1221
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna stop you a bunch and then we're just

1222
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: gonna like stare at somebody in the crowd and let

1223
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: you give get a huge play. If you're ordering the

1224
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: Michigan DVD or whatever that year end highlight package for

1225
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: the Wolverines, you're getting a lot of the second half

1226
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: against Perdue. That was the bright spot. That is, you know, everybody,

1227
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: John o'corn he's he's the guy, he's the answer here.

1228
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: This offense is ready. And then no, it was you

1229
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: know Indiana and Purdue. We're the highlights of this Michigan season.

1230
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: They lose to the good teams in their division. The

1231
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: offense ultimately was below average. Kron Higgen will be healthy

1232
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: for this game. This game feels like it will serve

1233
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: as a way to get Michigan fans very excited about

1234
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: twenty eight team, which that's going to work out. It's

1235
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: a tough schedule, but that's what it feels like to me.

1236
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: And you know, there's I guess maybe a three way

1237
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: quarterback matchup with Shaye Patterson, Brandon Peters, Dylan McCaffrey. We'll

1238
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: see who comes out of that. But short term, this

1239
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: game out back ball. The things that matter most one

1240
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: onion costume, two Adam mean obviously three whatever happens in

1241
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: this game. And South Carolina, you're right, they were fine

1242
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: this year. They took they improved. The offense was okay,

1243
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: nothing great. AJ Turner wasn't bad. Jake Bentley was okay

1244
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: in spots. The defense. The defense improved against the run,

1245
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: They prevented bigger plays through the air.

1246
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: There's a lot to be happy about, to be satisfied

1247
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: with if you're a South Carolina fan. But sure, if

1248
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: you do a blind taste test and look at the

1249
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: numbers that they put up on offense, and then you

1250
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: see that they won eight and four. I would expect

1251
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: that that would be a bit confusing because this was

1252
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: not an offense that really took anybody by storm.

1253
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the defense here. I'm gonna go

1254
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: with Michigan comfortably in the twenties.

1255
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if they cover eight points. That seems

1256
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: like a lot to me, but I feel twenty eight

1257
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: points confident that Michigan's going to win this game.

1258
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Chick fil A Peach Bowl.

1259
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: They play this one in the mirror Sadies Benz Stadium

1260
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, the new one.

1261
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1262
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: On New Year's Day, twelve thirty pm Eastern on ESPN.

1263
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: We've got the Auburn Tigers a nine and a half

1264
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: point favorite against the UCF the undefeated Dan Yeah, UCF Knights.

1265
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: A good gift situation here as well. Yeah, the Peach

1266
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: Bowl does not mess around three hundred dollars Vanilla visa

1267
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: gift card. Ye, Vanilla Vanilla visa? Okay, Vanilla? Do you

1268
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: like scratch it and it smells like vanilla? Or it's

1269
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: you can only use it at cold Stone Creamery. That's great. Great,

1270
01:05:54,960 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: that's where they get you Ultimate Ears, wonder Boom Bluetooth speaker. Sure,

1271
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's fine. Sure, you're in Atlanta, it's probably

1272
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: gonna be warm ish. I don't know you're inside Fossil

1273
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: watch in a football so Fossil coming strong here as well.

1274
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: I have a question for you.

1275
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: It's a very important and a very serious question. I'm

1276
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: ready about this football game. If I gave you one

1277
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: dollar for every time somebody asked you a hypothetical about

1278
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: UCF's playoff chances, how many bitcoins would you have by now?

1279
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: At this point, I don't think there's a lot of

1280
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: UCF playoff discussion, but a little while ago, Ty was

1281
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: it's a considerable amount.

1282
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 2: Sure, I would have so many bitcoins? Yeah, if we

1283
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Speaker 2: were keeping track, Because UCF has been an interesting story.

1284
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: They went undefeated.

1285
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: A lot of these statistical measures that we use to

1286
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: gauge one team against another come back with strong returns

1287
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: for UCF. So it's no denying that they're a very

1288
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: popular topic, especially given the fact that we've got a

1289
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: four team playoff, leaving the whole situation up for debate.

1290
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: This will be a good test for UCF. It'll be

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01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 2: a good test for Scott Frost. He will be coaching

1292
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 2: as well. The rest of his coaching staff. They're gonna

1293
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: leave after this game. They're all going to go up

1294
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: to Lincoln. But it'll be a really good test to

1295
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: see where UCF is at. A game like this, as

1296
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: you know, has proven to be a bit of a

1297
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 2: dangerous spot in the past for a team like an

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01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: Auburn because it means so much more for a team

1299
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: like UCF than it does Auburn. Auburn was one game away.

1300
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: For good use of that phrase, ty, it just means more,

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01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: it does. Auburn was one game away from being in

1302
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: the playoff UCF. This is their national championship. They can

1303
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,479
Speaker 2: beat an SEC team on Scott Frost's way out the door.

1304
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: A lot of intangibles at play. It also did catch

1305
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: me by surprise how statistically close this one looked. If

1306
01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: you go in there and pop the hood, the S

1307
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: and P plus likes UCF to win by a point.

1308
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, S and P plus is not a human factor thing,

1309
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, you're you're right. I mean, does this game

1310
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: feel sort of like pity sex versus breakup sex? I mean,

1311
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: football is football. Yeah, but okay, so yes, I think

1312
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: the biggest The bigger thing is Scott Frost and staff

1313
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: moving on to Nebraska. You have the Nebraska head coach

1314
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 1: now coaching UCF. This would be an enormous cherry. This

1315
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,919
Speaker 1: would be a dozen cherries on top of a delicious

1316
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: Sunday for Scott Frost and UCF and whatever. But it

1317
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: sort of felt like they peaked going twelve and zero.

1318
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: I think like this is it's not Chris Peterson, you know,

1319
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: staying Chris Peterson. You're back and poising now if you.

1320
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: If here's my advice, if you want to root for UCF,

1321
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 2: take UCF plus nine and a half straight up to

1322
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: me is a bridge too. Defensively, Auburn is way better

1323
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 2: than anybody UCF played all year, and that's going to

1324
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: play a factor here. If nothing more, it's just gonna

1325
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 2: wear down the UCF front. It sounds like kerry On

1326
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 2: Johnson will be healthy, he will play in this football game,

1327
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: and I think just by virtue of that, they will

1328
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 2: also be able to wear down the front seven of UCF.

1329
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: Auburn will.

1330
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 2: So given what we know of Auburn, they got a

1331
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 2: little bit nicked up down the stretch. If nothing more,

1332
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: they were tired because of the brutal stretch they had

1333
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: to play. They've had a couple weeks now. Scott Frost

1334
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 2: I saw he was quoted as saying, well, the UCF

1335
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,879
Speaker 2: was ahead of Auburn in their preparation. Auburn wasn't practicing

1336
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: as often as UCF was for this game. And I

1337
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 2: guess that plays into the fact that maybe it means

1338
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: more for the Nights than it does for the Tigers.

1339
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 2: But Auburn had a tough stretch. They deserve some time

1340
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: off to kind of get their bearings and get ready

1341
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: for this one. I think over the course of sixty

1342
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: minutes they will wear DOWNF and come away the victor here.

1343
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Auburn's defense was really, really, really

1344
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: really good. They were very good against the run, They

1345
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: were absurdly great against the pass. The offense was mostly good.

1346
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: After that Clemson game, you know, struggled in the SEC Championship. Certainly,

1347
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: I think what they score seven points against Georgia, but

1348
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: this Auburn team plays defense basically as well as anybody

1349
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: does anything, and that includes UCF on offense, and that

1350
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 1: offense was a complete joy Mackenzie Milton throwing to what,

1351
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: trey Quan Smith, Tredrick Snelson. You know, this was an

1352
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: exciting offense. My question is this UCF defense was average?

1353
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: They were, you know, which is a huge improvement from

1354
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: where they were, certainly, but they're okay. Versus the run,

1355
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: they weren't bad. Versus the pass. They gave up a

1356
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: lot of big plays. We saw the two games against

1357
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: Memphis and USF. I just I worry that, Yeah, the

1358
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: waves of talent for UCF just they won't be there

1359
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: against Auburn. The motivation for Auburn is a legitimate question,

1360
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: but they're still playing in a group of five game

1361
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: in the National Championship site, stadium, whatever, I think there

1362
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: will be excitement for Auburn. This was a good season

1363
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: for the Tigers. They beat what two playoff teams, They

1364
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: beat George at home, they beat Bama. So it's still

1365
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: a wildly successful year. And certainly disappointed with the SEC

1366
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: championship game. But yeah, I think the talent factor. I

1367
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: think the idea that it is the Nebraska head coach

1368
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: just sort of coaching his final game out for UCF.

1369
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: I think it's Auburn. I think Auburn ultimately wears them

1370
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: down by a couple touchdowns, and.

1371
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: Then before we get to the two Big Tamali's here

1372
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: a longer show, apologize, thank you for sticking with us.

1373
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: Here on the solid line. The Citrus Bowl presented by Overtons.

1374
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is? Do we know what Overtons is? I

1375
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: have no clue. What do you It's the Citrus Bowl

1376
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: presented by Overtons. Overtons. It sounds like a local diner. Yeah,

1377
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: I would get a Patty mellet overs. Sure. So Overton's

1378
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:08,839
Speaker 1: launching life on the Water. Since what it's boating, marine

1379
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: water sports, anchor and docking trailering, so it sounds like

1380
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: it's lake stuff. I don't know.

1381
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: They played at Camping World Stadium. I guess a fitting host.

1382
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, ties in.

1383
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 2: They also played this one on New Year's Day one

1384
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 2: PM on ABC. It's LSU a three point favorite over

1385
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. In this game, they give

1386
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: away a four hundred dollars best by Player shopping trip,

1387
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 2: which is done. I like that, and a timely watch

1388
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: company watch great gift. So Notre Dame was a bit

1389
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: in the news. Kevin Stefferson is their wide receiver suspended

1390
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: for this game, he got popped for speeding and then

1391
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: I guess not having a license and then having weed

1392
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: in his car.

1393
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: Not his first brush with the law.

1394
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: He's kind of been a handful ever since he got

1395
01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 2: there for Brian Kelly in a football since he led

1396
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 2: the receiving core with five touchdowns and he might have

1397
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: been their best big play guy. Yeah, so's It's not

1398
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 2: something you want to under sell because, as you know,

1399
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: my gripe about Notre Dame's offense all year has been

1400
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: the passing game. They haven't really been able to get

1401
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: much going down the field in the passing game. Now,

1402
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: to lose that component, I think is something that will

1403
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 2: obviously affect them negatively going into a big game like

1404
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: this against LSU. LSU has a pretty good defense in

1405
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: their own right. I don't want any part of Notre

1406
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 2: Dame in this game, why none whatsoever?

1407
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: The Stefferson passing game factor, not just that.

1408
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 2: I just feel like you've got such a good defense

1409
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: at LSU. You've got a really good defensive coordinator in

1410
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 2: David Randa. I think he's gonna watch the tape. He's

1411
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: gonna look, he's going to see what other programs did.

1412
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 2: He's going to see what Miami did.

1413
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was I think you're mostly right. This

1414
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: wasn't a dominant LSU defense at any one thing. This

1415
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: wasn't where this defense was these last couple of years.

1416
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: And they were good. They were you know, they were complete.

1417
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: They were good. And this LSU team was led mostly

1418
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: by the fact that, oh man, the phone keeps ringing,

1419
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: most by the fact that they were more talented than

1420
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: most of the teams they played, the improvement of Danniettling

1421
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: on offense, Darius Guice when he was healthy was very good,

1422
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: and the fact that the SEC wasn't terrific. You know,

1423
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: a lot of changes happening on both sides of the conference.

1424
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,959
Speaker 1: So Notre Dame wise, i'd be worried that the obvious

1425
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: strategy as well make Brandon Wimbush beat you.

1426
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: I don't think that David Randon needs to do anything

1427
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: more complicated. Yeah, I really don't. And that worries me

1428
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: for Notre Dame here.

1429
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's all reasonable, and I

1430
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: think one of the stories about Notre Dame that's a

1431
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: little bit below the surface. Unfortunately, because of the emergence

1432
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: of Josh Adams as a huge play running back and

1433
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: Brandon Wimbusch had a really nice at least first half

1434
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: or two thirds of the season. Is the fact that

1435
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's defense got good, especially against the pass this year.

1436
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: From where they were in twenty sixteen, they improved so

1437
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: much and they'll have a lot to sort of worry

1438
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: about with dj Chark as a big play guy and

1439
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: Danny Atling throwing the ball downfield pretty well. But that

1440
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: was that was a cool thing to see improve for

1441
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I just as Brandon Wimbush as the ultimate

1442
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty guy. That works me, So I'm going

1443
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: to LSU.

1444
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: I think probably more of a defensive slug fest than

1445
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 2: any kind of pyrotechnic display on offense.

1446
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,560
Speaker 1: But I do think that it will be wimbushed. That

1447
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: again sinks Notre Dame. I don't think he's going to.

1448
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: Move the ball through the air that he needs to

1449
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: that David rand is going to force him to try

1450
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: and do.

1451
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: Are you confident that they'll he'll improve next year or two?

1452
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 2: No, I'm not confident at all, because he hasn't improved

1453
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 2: this year. Okay, you know, from start to finish, you

1454
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 2: can make a really good case that he didn't get

1455
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: any better. So no, I'm not confident at all.

1456
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, I'm curious see what else you looks

1457
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: like offensively moving forward? But yeah, okay, let's go with

1458
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: the agree.

1459
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: And finally, Dan, in the wise words of that HQ

1460
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: trivia host, have you played that at all?

1461
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: Oh? I love HQ Scott was Nowski was new Ski? Yeah?

1462
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: I want a Christmas Eve thirty five bucks? Is that true?

1463
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: It is twelve questions.

1464
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 2: It all boils down to this, Dan, Let's start with

1465
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 2: the first of two college football playoff games, the Rose

1466
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: Bowl Game, presented by Northwestern Mutual. They play it at

1467
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California. It is on New

1468
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 2: Year's Day at five pm the Classic Rose bull starting

1469
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 2: time on ESPN Georgia. The Bulldogs the SEC champions at

1470
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: ten and two, a one and a half point favorite

1471
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: over Oklahoma at twelve and one. They enter this game

1472
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 2: with one loss to our friends over at Iowa State,

1473
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 2: and they are the Big twelve champion. In this game,

1474
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,959
Speaker 2: there's a gift suite of Fossil Watch, an Agio backpack,

1475
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 2: a new Era nine to fifty snap back adjustable hat,

1476
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:06,879
Speaker 2: and that's all I see.

1477
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: Also also a gift. You get to go play in

1478
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl, the best single setting for a game

1479
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: and best game you know, going to the Rose Bull

1480
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: for UCLA Arizona State not wonderful, but this Jeep New

1481
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: Year's it's the best.

1482
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 2: A quick look at the numbers here, the S and

1483
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 2: P Plus has Georgia as the eighteenth most efficient offense

1484
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 2: in college football the eighth most efficient defense. Oklahoma, They've

1485
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 2: got the top offense, the most efficient offense in the country,

1486
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 2: and most explosive and most explosive, but the ninety fifth

1487
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 2: most efficient defense. Right, whether you understand these numbers are not,

1488
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: that's the mismatch.

1489
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: On paper.

1490
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 2: It jumps OUTI it sticks out like gasre thumb. So

1491
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: let's start there. How fair is it to say that

1492
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 2: the weakest entity on the field is Oklahoma's defense?

1493
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: Accurate? I think that's accurate?

1494
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 2: Right?

1495
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, they have the best offense and the worst

1496
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: defense in the playoff.

1497
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 2: So now that we know that, now that we're assuming

1498
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: that much as fact, given that Oklahoma's offense is so

1499
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: damn efficient, how much, if at all, does that defense

1500
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 2: really scare you?

1501
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: The defense did improve, To be fair to Oklahoma, they

1502
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: gave up what seventeen to a good TCU offense. They

1503
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: gave up twenty earlier on in the season to the

1504
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: same TCU offense. They obviously shut down Kansas. They were

1505
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,799
Speaker 1: other than that Oklahoma State game. They were largely Okay,

1506
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: they've got og what is it? Okonquo, I'm going to

1507
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: screw that up for the rest of time. And he's

1508
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: a great a great guy for them on defense. But

1509
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: I think in big spots this Oklahoma defense can be enough.

1510
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, if they're not going to be good,

1511
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: they can be enough to not be a detriment and

1512
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: take away from what seems to always be an exhilarating

1513
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: offensive performance from Baker Mayfield and his year over year

1514
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: new skill set around him. Okay, so it doesn't terrify

1515
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: me in the way that I think ordinarily it would

1516
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 1: because you have that quarterback cover.

1517
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 2: I think there is definitely a possibility that Georgia comes

1518
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 2: into this game and does exactly what it's done in

1519
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: a bunch of other games this season. They'll grind it

1520
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 2: out with Nick Chubb and Sony Michelle. They'll play off

1521
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 2: that they'll get Jake from some good looks downfield in

1522
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: a vacuum. That's a really good matchup for Georgia, and

1523
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: on some level we're going to see that play out

1524
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: here in Georgia's favor in this football game. They will

1525
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 2: do that to some degree of success. I have no

1526
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 2: doubt about that. What worries me is that Oklahoma runs hot.

1527
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 2: They run hot. They're the best first quarter team in

1528
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: college football, at least on offense.

1529
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1530
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 2: Would it surprise you if they went out there opening

1531
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 2: dry and went eighty yards on three plays and scored

1532
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 2: a touchdown.

1533
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: Three plays, maybe seven six, five plays maybe not? Yeah,

1534
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 1: that would I mean? They have the clear best quarterback

1535
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: in college football. Who I mean, We've talked about this before.

1536
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: He seems like he's in purgatory a little bit all

1537
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: season long. He doesn't seem like a college quarterback. He

1538
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: seems like a grad student. He's, you know, ready for

1539
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. Was ready for the NFL early on in

1540
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: the season. And I generally don't care how good your

1541
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: secondary is. He's going to able. He's going to be

1542
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: able to buy enough time to make a play in

1543
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 1: the same way you know, Deshaun Watson was able to

1544
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: do last year. Marcus Mariota was you know, there. He

1545
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: has that very specific talent that you can cover his receivers.

1546
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: You can cover you know, Mark Andrews, you can cover

1547
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: whoever for three four seconds. But he is going to

1548
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: squirt and squirm and move around enough to make a

1549
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: play more often than not.

1550
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: I just worry that George is gonna have to play

1551
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 2: from behind early. And okay, if that's the case, what

1552
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 2: happens to their game plan of trying to grind it out?

1553
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 2: And you know, Jake from has been really good. He's

1554
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 2: been efficient and accurate and all the superlatives apply to

1555
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 2: what he's done in his first year. He's been outstanding.

1556
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 2: But Georgia, I think, has a very specific game plan

1557
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 2: that we know a lot about. And what really impresses

1558
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 2: me about Oklahoma is that in spite of losing both

1559
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: running backs and DeeDee Westbrook and Bob freaking Stoops from

1560
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: a year ago, Lincoln Riley came in. He was starting

1561
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 2: with Baker Mayfield in a good line. And if you're

1562
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 2: a fan, all you can ask is that your team

1563
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 2: gets better. They have gotten better on offense. They have

1564
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 2: so many different ways that they can beat you. I

1565
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 2: don't think Georgia has that kind of variety on their offense.

1566
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 2: They have a very specific formula that they can follow

1567
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 2: and veer from to some degree and still be very successful.

1568
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 2: But I feel much better about Oklahoma really against any defense,

1569
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: given that they've got Baker Mayfield.

1570
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: I am.

1571
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 2: I am. If I weren't sticking to my formula here

1572
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: and putting the minimal amount of confidence points in these

1573
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 2: later games, I would put a lot more than three

1574
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 2: on Oklahoma because I've just been so impressed by how

1575
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: they've gotten better throughout the course.

1576
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: Of the season. So I'm gonna go Oklahoma here outright,

1577
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: every part of my gut is sent telling me Oklahoma

1578
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback. He's been in the playoff, you know, beat

1579
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: Auburn and what the Sugar Bowl last year. You know,

1580
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: he's been in these big spots, going into the biggest spot.

1581
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: I really like Oklahoma here because of Baker Mayfield. Yeah,

1582
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 1: but I'm going Georgia. WHOA Why I'm going Georgia because

1583
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 1: too many times danalytics scene. No, I mean, the defense

1584
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: thing does play a role. Yes, too many times I've

1585
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:50,480
Speaker 1: seen the better defense get the best of an excellent quarterback.

1586
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: Too many times over the course of four quarters. You know,

1587
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: the talent edge clearly goes to Georgia. The fact that

1588
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: their front is as dominant as it is against I mean,

1589
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: that's the mat right It's and Lorenzo Carter against the

1590
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: just unbelievably dominant Oklahoma offensive line. It's how much can

1591
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 1: Georgia force Baker Mayfield to be uncomfortable? And even when uncomfortable,

1592
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's better than anybody, But that, to me is

1593
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: the big difference, and the fact that Georgia was able

1594
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: to cover their perceived weaknesses, be it deep with the

1595
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: secondary or be it offensive line early on to become

1596
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: a strength and even when offensively if Jake From's not

1597
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: getting it going, and I think this is God, it's

1598
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 1: an enormous spot for a true freshman quarterback to be

1599
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: in against another quarterback who has all of the seasoning

1600
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: in the world in Baker Mayfield. I just the more

1601
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: dependable thing to me in these spots is defensive talent

1602
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: at this point with what we've seen recently, with as

1603
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: good as spread offenses have been, with a first year

1604
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 1: head coach with a questionable at times defense, I mean,

1605
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph carved up this Oklahoma State defense. I mean

1606
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: maybe the best receiving corps in college football, but he

1607
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: carved them up. I'm just I'm going to go This

1608
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: is the same reason I took Wisconsin. Ag It's Miami, Okay.

1609
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: There's more I feel like I can depend on in

1610
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 1: this game when things go wrong than just Baker Mayfield.

1611
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 1: So I'm going Georgia and I hate myself for doing it.

1612
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm kind of going with Oklahoma for all

1613
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 2: the same reasons.

1614
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1615
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: I think either way, this is potential to be the

1616
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 2: best game of the year, maybe the best game all

1617
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: next year too. I think Oklahoma goes up early. I

1618
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: think Georgia Whittle's their way back. I think we get

1619
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: to the fourth quarter and Oklahoma's trying to hang on

1620
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 2: for dear life, sore more shootout et a very close game.

1621
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 2: I like Oklahoma thirty eight thirty seven in an instant

1622
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl Classic.

1623
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 1: And to be clear, I watched every second of Oklahoma

1624
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I know what I'm doing, and I'm doing

1625
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: something bad. But in a spot like this, with the

1626
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: amount of time to prepare, I think, you know, Kirby's

1627
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: art Mel Tucker, that defense kind of Sam Sewin on offense.

1628
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 1: I think Georgia wins this game twenty eight to twenty seven.

1629
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 2: Wow.

1630
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, I think it's gonna unbelieve. I

1631
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 1: cannot wait for this.

1632
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm very excited for this game, which means that the

1633
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: final showdown in the playoffs this season, at least in

1634
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: the semi finals, is the All State Sugar Bowl. They

1635
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 2: play it on New Year's Day at eight forty five

1636
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: pm Eastern Time on ESPN live from New Orleans in

1637
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: the Mercedes Benz Superdome. It's a rematch from last year's

1638
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 2: actual national championship game.

1639
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: Alabama at eleven and one.

1640
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: They did not win their conference, but they did make

1641
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 2: it in thanks to the College Football Playoff Selection Committee.

1642
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 2: They're a two point two and a half point favorite,

1643
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: depending where you look. Over the Clemson Tigers at twelve

1644
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: and one.

1645
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: They won the A C C. What's our final gift situation, Dan,

1646
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 1: sugar ball always on time is pretty good. The Sugar

1647
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: Bowl is giving away. There's a gift sweet situation. A

1648
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: fossil watch, a new era cap, Rockham socks, which were

1649
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: in agreement. They look pretty great. They need to send

1650
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: us rock Em socks, but they need some rock Ems

1651
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: and a panoramic game photo. Which I like that I

1652
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: have a panoramic view of I think it's Oregon USC

1653
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: from two thousand and eight, maybe up in my apartment,

1654
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: so I like those. So always better if you are

1655
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: the team with the winning score to get a panoramic

1656
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: game photo memory. But that's pretty good. I'm sure the

1657
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: gift sweet's nice.

1658
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: Let's take another look at the numbers here as we

1659
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: did with the last game. Alabama nineteenth in terms of

1660
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 2: offensive efficiency, third in terms of defensive efficiency in the nation.

1661
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: Clemson at thirty five overall in terms of offensive efficiency

1662
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 2: and number two when it comes to defense. There are

1663
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: no glaring deficiencies either way. That's why they're in the playoff.

1664
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 2: The only thing that I'd call out is is that

1665
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 2: Clemson hasn't been great this season at generating those bigger

1666
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 2: chunk plays. They're pretty low on the totem pole when

1667
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 2: it comes to the explosion plays that tend to turn

1668
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 2: a game one way or another.

1669
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: So that's something to keep an eye on Clemson. Last year,

1670
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: you're defending national champion one hundred and fourth most explosive

1671
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: team in the country, right seventh most efficient, So if

1672
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 1: your top ten efficient, explosion matters less. Although the team

1673
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 1: I think that wins the explosion battle typically goes on

1674
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 1: to win the game something like eighty eighty five percent

1675
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: of the time. But yeah, so that's where they were

1676
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: last year. And we've talked about this before and this

1677
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: is Clemson Alabama three. That the thing that teams that

1678
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 1: generally are able to find success against Alabama's defense have

1679
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: in common is a fearless combination of offensive play caller

1680
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: and quarterback, which certainly they have the play callers, the

1681
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,799
Speaker 1: co offensive coordinators have done a great job for Clemson.

1682
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: Was that Jeff Scott and Tony Elliott they do not

1683
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 1: have a season And I would sayinatively, fearless quarterback and

1684
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: Kelly Bryant. I don't agree with it very good. I

1685
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: would agree with that. We've talked about talent wise, you

1686
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 1: need to be comparable. Clemson more than fits that, Bill

1687
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: and I would especially along the lines. And the other

1688
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: thing that Clemson had last year that they don't have

1689
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: this year necessarily is big physical combination of you know, receivers,

1690
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: pass catchers, tight end receivers. You know, no Mike Williams,

1691
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: no Jordan Leggett. There is a difference in what Clemson's

1692
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: receiving corps looks like I know t Higgins has been

1693
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: their big play guy, and he's a bigger receiver, like

1694
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: six four to two hundred, but it's a it's a

1695
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: smaller receiving corps this year, led by Deon Caine, Hunter

1696
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 1: Renfro and really talented guys. But in terms of the

1697
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: sort of physicality of having those bigger pass catchers, that

1698
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 1: is a difference for Clemson this year. So that worries

1699
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: me a little bit that it's not Deshaun Watson throwing

1700
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: to smaller receivers, it's Kelly Bryant.

1701
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 2: And you said the keyword there, Deshaun Watson, I think

1702
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,560
Speaker 2: is kind of what I look at that what he

1703
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 2: did last year and how he was able to single

1704
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: handedly take out Alabama. If you replace Deshaun Watson with

1705
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: Kelly Bryant with anybody else, I don't think Clemson wins

1706
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 2: last year. But he was such a transcendent player on

1707
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,839
Speaker 2: the college level, much in the way that Baker Mayfield

1708
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: is this year, by the way that he was able

1709
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 2: to will his team to victory. Now, it's no knock

1710
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 2: on Kelly Bryant. I don't think he's at that level yet.

1711
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 2: And so when I went through and I tried to

1712
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 2: evaluate this game, Okay, Clemson has a lot of the

1713
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 2: boxes checked, a lot of the things that you need

1714
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 2: if you're going to go toe to toe with Alabama,

1715
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 2: they have it. But as a rule, when you consider

1716
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 2: that Nick Saban has had so much time to prepare,

1717
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: that to me seems like something that would favor Alabama

1718
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 2: in this game.

1719
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,719
Speaker 1: Is Jeremy Prewett fully focused on Alabama.

1720
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 2: The thing about Pruet is he's coached at such a

1721
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 2: high level before you know, He's been at Georgia, he's

1722
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 2: been at Florida State, say, He's been around the block

1723
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 2: to know how these things are supposed to work. So

1724
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: I don't think that factors in as much, especially given

1725
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 2: the fact that Alabama is just so damn talented on defense. Now, linebacking.

1726
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 2: The linebacking corps has been a bit of an issue

1727
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 2: with the injury bug, but I think they'll be okay

1728
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 2: there by the time this game rolls around. So no,

1729
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,560
Speaker 2: I don't think that factors in as much as some

1730
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 2: might lead you to believe.

1731
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing that we should It also is

1732
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 1: worth noting, even though it's been the case for a

1733
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: long time. Alabama gave Clemson everything they could handle last

1734
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: year with the best Clemson quarterback or player of all time,

1735
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. That was with Ruben Foster, was with Jonathan Allen,

1736
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: that was with Brian Anderson, that was with Dalvin Tomlinson,

1737
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: Tim Williams. This is not the same level of danger,

1738
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: especially with the injuries in the sort of back half

1739
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: of Alabama's defense. So the margin freyer might be a

1740
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 1: little bit wider for Kelly Bryant. This is an excellent

1741
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 1: Alabama defense. It is not an absurdly talented upfront in

1742
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,600
Speaker 1: this same way it was last year with you know,

1743
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: the versatility. You know, Eddie Jackson was so good for

1744
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: them last year playing all over the field. So it

1745
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: is a better year this year to play Alabama's defense

1746
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: at this point than it was last year.

1747
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 2: You know. And it's such an interesting point too, because

1748
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 2: when I was trying to go through and look at

1749
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 2: what Alabama has done this season, what they've done in

1750
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 2: the past in this playoff sabans two to one in

1751
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 2: the first round of the playoff matchups. Okay, they've been

1752
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 2: in it each of the last three years. You could

1753
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 2: make a case that Bama this year is not on

1754
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 2: the level of any of the three previous versions of

1755
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 2: Alabama in this first round of the College Football Playoff.

1756
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:45,679
Speaker 2: Like all those teams, I think could have been better.

1757
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 1: No, that's totally right, and the reason why this year

1758
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't feel too worried about Alabama defense. I don't

1759
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 1: think clemb is going to score thirty five points. Alabama's offense,

1760
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: to me is I think probably the big because that's

1761
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 1: where the biggest talent matchup is Alabama on offense, you know,

1762
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 1: with the seven thousand talented running backs and Jalen Hurts

1763
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: playing and yet another huge game. He's seasoned, He's struggled

1764
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: in a couple of these, but he's played them, and

1765
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, they have a huge time receiver in Calvin Ridley,

1766
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 1: and the Clemson defensive front is going to be swarming.

1767
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: I think this is going to be the best in

1768
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: terms of pure talent on pure talent, the best matchup

1769
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 1: in this game. I'm a little bit worried about Jalen Hurts,

1770
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: okay against this Clemson defense. I'm a little worried about

1771
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: him getting spooked on third and eight, And I go

1772
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: back and forth. I think I'm going Clemson, Okay, and

1773
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: it's the same. I think it's the sort of getting

1774
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 1: older and leaning more towards what I can depend on.

1775
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: I think it's more that Clemson can get five six

1776
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: year olds on the ground. Kelly Bryant can. I mean,

1777
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 1: Kelly Bryan and Jalen Hurts are both great at running

1778
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: the ball. Jalen Hurts is a little bit better. But

1779
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: there's something that is more dependable about Clemson at this

1780
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: point because of their experience on defense, their experience in

1781
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 1: this spot. Kelly Bryant as a runner, He's their best

1782
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: running back as a quarterback. I think I like this.

1783
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: I think I like Clemson just a tad more in

1784
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:19,599
Speaker 1: this spot.

1785
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 2: It's a very difficult game to try and project.

1786
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1787
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 2: I actually come down on the opposite side of the

1788
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 2: coin here and I jotted down some of the same

1789
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 2: words that you use.

1790
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:31,719
Speaker 1: Trust.

1791
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 2: I say a time and time again. It's about trust, babe, Yes,

1792
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 2: it is. Who do you trust more to make a

1793
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 2: big play with the game on the line. I think

1794
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 2: it's going to be a defensive slugfest, yeah, one way

1795
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 2: or the other. I think I trust Jalen hurtsmore, and

1796
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:51,759
Speaker 2: I know he struggled in the past, but all things considered,

1797
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 2: he's had a pretty good year. He only threw one

1798
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 2: interception all year. He's very good at running the football,

1799
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 2: and he's had a knack for making big plays in

1800
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 2: the he just hasn't always been consistent. But I do

1801
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 2: think that seasoning does creep into the equation here, and

1802
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 2: given the fact that they're so good on defense that

1803
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be a tight game. I think Jalen

1804
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 2: Hurts will have a big play in him down the

1805
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 2: stretch that ultimately springs Alabama here to victory.

1806
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 1: Twenty eight, twenty four, all right, I have I don't know,

1807
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: twenty three to twenty twenty seven to twenty four something

1808
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 1: in like that close Clemson win, And yeah, I think

1809
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 1: if you're gonna take you have to take chances against

1810
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: this Clemson defense. Deep. I think that's where teams have succeeded.

1811
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 1: And Clemson honestly is the more tested team, which is

1812
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 1: very rare to say. And it's because of you know,

1813
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Florida State struggling. It's because of you know, the way

1814
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, A and M and LSU weren't really the

1815
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: same as they've been in recent years against Alabama, all

1816
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: miss being down and Clemson beating Auburn, beating Virginia Tech,

1817
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 1: dominating Miami. We just I think we know more about

1818
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 1: them in big spots. You know, one of these teams

1819
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 1: is beating Auburn. One of them hasn't, so I mean,

1820
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: granted it was early September. Yeah sure, but I'm going

1821
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: with Clemson here, being a lit little bit more self

1822
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,839
Speaker 1: aware in these big spots while healthier.

1823
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 2: I've got two confidence points on this one. I've got

1824
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 2: confidence point one confidence point on the National Championship game

1825
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 2: because obviously we don't know that matchup yet, so that

1826
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 2: gets one.

1827
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: But you know, if I could put zero on this one,

1828
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:16,640
Speaker 1: I would. I'd love to give people.

1829
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 2: Out there a hot take about the matchup that I

1830
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 2: see or why I feel more strongly about Auburn than

1831
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 2: Clemson er vice versa. But this is just so damn close,

1832
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 2: Dan and I could totally see it going one way

1833
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 2: or the other. I struggled mightily with Alabama here, but

1834
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 2: that's I'm going to go with the Crimson Tide. I've

1835
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 2: been a fan all year. Let's just roll with it.

1836
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 2: Twenty eight twenty four fair We disagree, slightly disagreed on

1837
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 2: both of the playoff games.

1838
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Actually that's true. All right, Well, there you have it, yeap,

1839
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 1: that does it for all of the bowl games.

1840
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 2: Clearly, we will be back after the New Year to

1841
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 2: talk about all of these games, talk about the playoff

1842
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 2: and then ultimately give you our national championship preview, which

1843
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 2: will drop later on in the week next week, presumably.

1844
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: When you and I get to Atlanta and have a

1845
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 1: chance to finish that guy up.

1846
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 2: But wow, great year, great twenty seventeen in the college

1847
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 2: football world. We appreciate everyone sticking with us throughout the

1848
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 2: calendar year, throughout the season, Dan, this has been exciting.

1849
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 1: Our tenth full year. It feels like nine. It feels

1850
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 1: like nine. I'm excited for Atlanta, Tai to see you,

1851
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 1: to see the verballers down there, to get excited to

1852
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: do the media day stuff for our friends at Facebook Sports.

1853
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,600
Speaker 1: It's going to be a hell of a next I

1854
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: don't know what is it, ten days or so. I

1855
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: this is the best. This is just it's a lot

1856
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 1: of college football, it's a lot of food. It's I

1857
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: love it all in New Year's Day is going to

1858
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:50,799
Speaker 1: be great. I'm excited.

1859
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 2: Well, thank you again to everyone out there who gives

1860
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 2: us so much support. We're going to open up the

1861
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 2: reverblind on New Year's Day if you want to give

1862
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 2: a phone call in. At some point we'll get our

1863
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 2: boy Taylor to cut those together and do one final

1864
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 2: reverbs for the twenty seventeen season four eight verbal one

1865
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 2: four oh eight eight three seven two two five one.

1866
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 2: If you want to get in on the action and

1867
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 2: leave us one more message, you can text us, reach

1868
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 2: out on Twitter, on Facebook, via email at soliverbal at

1869
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 2: gmail dot com. And don't forget if you're planning on

1870
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 2: being in Atlanta, either if you live there, if you're

1871
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 2: passing through town, or maybe if you're coming down for

1872
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 2: the National Championship. We've got another lot of tickets that

1873
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 2: we're going to put up for sale January the second,

1874
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 2: at one pm Eastern. We'll link that up on Twitter,

1875
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 2: on Facebook, on Instagram, post it on the website. We'll

1876
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 2: send out an email to the newsletter of intent. We

1877
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 2: still got tickets we want to sell that out. That

1878
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 2: being said, please do let us know if you're going

1879
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 2: to be in town, if you're interested. Daniel, that's all

1880
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 2: I got.

1881
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: That's all I got. I don't think we're going to

1882
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 1: do a secret verbal song is the show song. The

1883
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: show is already long enough, but I agree he Hopefully

1884
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 1: we got you out of uncomfortable situations having to listen

1885
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 1: to this show, or got you on your journey more

1886
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 1: comfortably back home to a new place whatever, to vacation.

1887
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 2: So I'm glad we're here, Ty, I'm glad. I'm glad

1888
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 2: that's a longer show than usual. To close out twenty seventeen.

1889
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 2: We will catch you all on the flip side in

1890
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 2: the meantime. For that guy over there, my good friend

1891
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ty Hildenbrand, we'll catch you all

1892
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 2: next week and next year.

1893
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:34,759
Speaker 1: Happy New Year and stay solid peace.