Speaker 1: What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
Speaker 1: the great Daniel oh Yufuzie, who used to join me
Speaker 1: to talk about this Dolphins team. He's now on the
Speaker 1: Browns beat. He's gonna help us break down this Dolphins
Speaker 1: in Brown's matchup from the Cleveland Perspective.
Speaker 2: We'll hear from Kyle Krabs.
Speaker 1: We'll pick the week eighteen games from the Baptist Health
Speaker 1: Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the
Speaker 1: Draft Time Podcast. Maybe Daffy, it is Brown's week, and
Speaker 1: that means we get to welcome in longtime friend of
Speaker 1: the show, Miami Harold Alum, who was granted the opportunity
Speaker 1: to return closer to his home turf. In the DMV,
Speaker 1: he covers the Browns for ESPN. Daniel oh Yufusie. Daniel,
Speaker 1: welcome back in man, tell me everything. How is life
Speaker 1: in the land beIN?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's a these skies eighty degrees.
Speaker 4: I'm this kidding now, We've got some snow flurries out here.
Speaker 4: But it's been fun.
Speaker 3: You know, it's been about eight months since I left
Speaker 3: South Florida. Come to Cleveland for this great opportunity, and
Speaker 3: I've really been enjoying it, you know, as well as
Speaker 3: we'll kind of get into it, Sceal. It's been kind
Speaker 3: of disappointing in terms of the onfield product relative to expectations.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's like I said's my six year
Speaker 4: coming in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Every year is you know, it takes a life on
Speaker 3: his own, and I've really been enjoying it.
Speaker 1: They're going to have indoor or is the plan to
Speaker 1: have an indoor stadium or is that just in talks
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the haslms are are are really pushing
Speaker 3: forward with this. Obviously there's been you know, there's the
Speaker 3: kind of legal process, political products with the city and whatnot,
Speaker 3: but they are you know, they've they've unleashed renderings for
Speaker 3: that that Dome stadium in brook Park, which is suburb
Speaker 3: you know, suburban area about fifteen minutes from downtown. You know,
Speaker 3: They've put out renderings of kind of the area around
Speaker 3: that they want to really spruce up. So the hope
Speaker 3: is for them that you know, in the next couple
Speaker 3: of years they can really you know, put this together
Speaker 3: and you.
Speaker 1: Know, unveil it well the Cavs are one of the
Speaker 1: best teams in the NBA. You are in the hometown
Speaker 1: of a team that played in the ALCS this year.
Speaker 1: But the Browns, well, maybe you'll have an indoor stadium
Speaker 1: here coming up that you don't have to go outside
Speaker 1: and cover cold football games in December. So everything looking
Speaker 1: up for Cleveland from Daniel Oyafuzi's perspective. But let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and start here with a two fold question, because
Speaker 1: we do this every single time I have a guest
Speaker 1: on talk about the quarterback position first, but the Browns,
Speaker 1: you know, they make the biggest change the team can
Speaker 1: make in season by making the quarterback switch. And before
Speaker 1: we get into the impact of that, I want to
Speaker 1: start off with your scouting report on Dorian Thompson and
Speaker 1: Robinson because I think most people probably remember him most
Speaker 1: from college and he's kind of bounced around here a
Speaker 1: little bit in the league. What's kind of the scouting
Speaker 1: report for dtr heading into this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's a little bit of an you know,
Speaker 3: unknown and kind of unproven player right now. Fifth round
Speaker 3: pick of the Browns last year, you know, made three
Speaker 3: starts and he was kind of thrown into some kind
Speaker 3: of unfortunate, unexpected situations, Like I think his first start
Speaker 3: came against the Ravens. In about three hours before the game,
Speaker 3: he was notified that Deshaun Watson wasn't gonna be able
Speaker 3: to go, he was gonna have to start, So he
Speaker 3: kind of was thrown to the Wolves in a sense
Speaker 3: with no first team reps, and the performance was kind
Speaker 3: of one that you would expect from a backup quarterback
Speaker 3: that didn't get any first team reps. You know, he
Speaker 3: did lead them to a you know, impressive win, a
Speaker 3: low scoring game, kind of mucked up game against the Steelers,
Speaker 3: but most of his starts, of his kind of playing
Speaker 3: action has kind of been just kind of like thrown
Speaker 3: into you know, backup duty year as we saw you
Speaker 3: know recently, you know.
Speaker 4: Come in for Jameis Winston after he was benched.
Speaker 3: And I think that the one thing from year one
Speaker 3: to year two that a lot of players and coach
Speaker 3: Kevin Stefansky has talked about it's kind of his overall
Speaker 3: grasp and uh, you know knowledge of the offense, you know,
Speaker 3: just having a feel.
Speaker 4: For where to go with the ball and where everyone
Speaker 4: should be and whatnot.
Speaker 3: Obviously he has he has a strong arm, pushed the
Speaker 3: ball downfield. He's a little frenetic. You know, he has
Speaker 3: some mobility to him, but he is a little frenetic.
Speaker 3: And I think that one thing that they're trying to
Speaker 3: get him to do is to just be a little
Speaker 3: more calm and in everything from you know, the strop
Speaker 3: back to his reading of the field to when he
Speaker 3: does decide to use his legs.
Speaker 4: So you know, again he's he's very raw, but he's
Speaker 4: an athletic guy.
Speaker 3: He's going to run around, make some plays, a kind
Speaker 3: of basic exciting over you know, this last couple of
Speaker 3: weeks of the season as we're kind of transitioning into
Speaker 3: the offseason.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and he'll need those legs against the Anthon
Speaker 1: Weaver defense that does a good job of cooking up
Speaker 1: pressures with Chob Robinson, with Zack Steeler and of course
Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks is a blitzer and all the same pressures
Speaker 1: they can offer. I'm realizing now that I just misspoke
Speaker 1: and I conflated his career with somebody else.
Speaker 2: That was, uh where did dtr go to u c
Speaker 2: l A? Also?
Speaker 4: And he did go to UCLA.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I was thinking Brett Hamley that was he
Speaker 1: did not bounce. He's been with the Browns the entire time.
Speaker 1: So my bat on that correction there, and just separately Daniel,
Speaker 1: because again, like this, just outside of like the football
Speaker 1: and what we love it for, just the quarterback position
Speaker 1: alone kind of fascinates me and people's journeys into that
Speaker 1: position in the quarterback rooms, and you know, the teams
Speaker 1: that get their starter for the whole year is great.
Speaker 1: Most teams don't have that luxury. And for the Browns,
Speaker 1: it's been a while since they've had a quarterback play
Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen games. And I'm just curious about the
Speaker 1: quarterback room in general this year because I have to
Speaker 1: imagine that it's taxing on a team and forget you know,
Speaker 1: off field stuff and everything that goes into that, but
Speaker 1: just in terms of high price starter who didn't play
Speaker 1: very well, he gets hurt, and I think people probably
Speaker 1: were ready for the backup at that point. He gets
Speaker 1: his chance, but then he plays exactly like you'd expect
Speaker 1: a guy who once had a thirty touchdown, thirty pick,
Speaker 1: five thousand yard season to play. And now they go
Speaker 1: to the youngster who has you know, maybe's not that
Speaker 1: young either, he's like mid twenties, who has you know,
Speaker 1: a very minimal starting experience. Just take us through the
Speaker 1: impact of the quarterback room on the entire operation in
Speaker 1: Cleveland this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's been it's been a roller coaster
Speaker 4: from you know, Deshaun Watson, you know, having you know,
Speaker 4: kind of maybe the single worst half season we've seen
Speaker 4: in recent memory.
Speaker 3: You know, I think there was a lot obviously, a
Speaker 3: lot of frustration, you know, internally externally because they entered
Speaker 3: the season with a lot of expectations, highest spectations. Obviously,
Speaker 3: you know, Watson was coming off of a sort shoulder surgery.
Speaker 3: But the last time we saw him on the field
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three was maybe his brightest moment as
Speaker 3: a Cleveland Brown. You know, I'm completing all of his
Speaker 3: passes in the second half of a comeback road win
Speaker 3: against the Ravens, and then a couple days later day
Speaker 3: and outstetics out for the year.
Speaker 4: So, you know, they bring in Ken Dorsey from the.
Speaker 3: Bills offensive coordinator, they kind of spruce up the offense
Speaker 3: and kind of retool the offense to do this spread out,
Speaker 3: shotgun RPO based system that he had success with in Houston.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of expectation and hope that he
Speaker 3: can kind of get back to that pro bow level
Speaker 3: that we saw when he was with the Texans, and
Speaker 3: that just never came.
Speaker 4: That just never came. In fruition, he looked very uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: You know, there was a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 3: Around him in terms of you know, injuries on the
Speaker 3: offensive line, struggles blocking, you know, struggles implementing a new
Speaker 3: scheme that was vastly different from what they've done normally
Speaker 3: under Chemi Stefanski for the first four years of his
Speaker 3: tenure there, and then it all culminated in that injury.
Speaker 4: So obviously you go to Jamis.
Speaker 3: Winston and you know he's he's you know, the embodiment
Speaker 3: of a variants. You know, he first starts, he throws
Speaker 3: three touchdowns, you know, a couple of games he's throwing
Speaker 3: three interceptions.
Speaker 4: That's just kind of who he is. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean I think that you know, he had.
Speaker 3: A strong start kind of lifting that offense, kind of
Speaker 3: breathing some life into that offense. But then you know,
Speaker 3: you did see him kind of you know, it's kind
Speaker 3: of the law of averages. You know, he some of
Speaker 3: those drop picks and missed opportunities came back to bite him.
Speaker 3: And now we're with Dorian Thompson Robinson Robinson, and you know,
Speaker 3: he he has spoken about wanting to show that he
Speaker 3: can be the QB one.
Speaker 4: For this franchise.
Speaker 3: And obviously it's a you know, it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: tough tat ass, you know, for a fifth round pick
Speaker 3: if you have to love the confidence and the you know,
Speaker 3: the aspirations. So yeah, I mean, I believe that Drian
Speaker 3: Thompson Robinson is the fortieth starting quarterback to start for
Speaker 3: the Browns since they were turning to Cleveland in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety nine. And I you know, it's tough for any team,
Speaker 3: any organizations to have no continuity when you're starting that
Speaker 3: many players of the course of a year, over the
Speaker 3: course of several years.
Speaker 4: And we just have to have stability with that position.
Speaker 3: And it looks like they're going to be on the
Speaker 3: lookout to, you know, stabilize that position again this offseason.
Speaker 2: Did you say forty Yeah, I believe so.
Speaker 3: Last time I checked it was I believe it was
Speaker 3: thirty eight after Kashawn got hurt, So James would have
Speaker 3: been thirty nine. And I guess this makes forty if
Speaker 3: my math is right, it's definitely define don't.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that is just jarring to me because I've
Speaker 1: seen the jerseys, you know, the people that have the
Speaker 1: jersey where they put the what is it, Tim Cowich
Speaker 1: is the first name, and then they have the ensuing
Speaker 1: twenty five plus and now it sounds like forty names
Speaker 1: off the side of that jersey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that's you know, some teams have that to
Speaker 2: deal with.
Speaker 1: Some teams have the Packers luck and they get three
Speaker 1: consecutive like all pro level quarterbacks. It's just isn't fair
Speaker 1: sometimes the way this league works out. And Daniel, you
Speaker 1: talk about the quarterbacks, they're all throwing two and this
Speaker 1: goes back to like your point about expectations, like, man,
Speaker 1: this roster, it's it's pretty dang good. And you look
Speaker 1: at the skill players, like obviously, you know Nick Chubb's
Speaker 1: been down for the majority of the year and he'll
Speaker 1: he'll miss the rest of the year again here with
Speaker 1: the foot injury, and you know, prayers up for him
Speaker 1: that he can get back and sort of sort of
Speaker 1: for a next year because he's one of the best
Speaker 1: players and one of the best dudes in the league.
Speaker 1: But I look at an offense that has Jerry Judy
Speaker 1: and David Najoku, is you know, Judy's having a kind
Speaker 1: of renaissance here in the NFL and n Joku's one
Speaker 1: of the best tight ends in the NFL. So what
Speaker 1: kind of challenges do those guys present? Maybe is there
Speaker 1: a couple of guys in that skill group of Dolphins
Speaker 1: fans should know about that maybe they don't know about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think you definitely have to start
Speaker 4: with Jerry Judy, just because he's having a breakout year.
Speaker 3: You know, we talked so much about like Alabama, Jerry Judy,
Speaker 3: like the one that we saw years back and put
Speaker 3: put up those big numbers and we finally have gotten it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because he left the situation where you know,
Speaker 3: there was a lot of turnover into quarterback, head coach,
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. He wanted, you know, to get opportunities when
Speaker 3: you know the first half of the season it looked
Speaker 3: like he looked like it did a lot in Denver
Speaker 3: with you know, just inconsistency at the quarterback position. But
Speaker 3: I will say one thing about Jameis Winston being inserted
Speaker 3: into the lineup is that you know, he really brought
Speaker 3: the best out of Jerry Judy as a guy who
Speaker 3: can you know, run, run, you know, strong rouse. We've
Speaker 3: always known that at all levels of the field and
Speaker 3: when given the opportunities, make plays, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: over the the last I guess since week eight when
Speaker 3: Jameis Winston took over, like Jerry Judy is you know,
Speaker 3: top three, top five, uh in in receiving yards and
Speaker 3: we've really seen those big plays. So he's definitely you know,
Speaker 3: the top you know, offensive playmaker, uh for the Browns.
Speaker 3: I will say with Nick Chubb bing out, another guy
Speaker 3: who I expect to get a lot of touches is
Speaker 3: the running back Jerome Ford.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, out of.
Speaker 4: Cincinnati and you know started his career at Alabama.
Speaker 3: He's a he's a speed guy, you know, at twenty
Speaker 3: miles per hour, twenty one per hour on his sixty
Speaker 3: two yard run a couple of weeks back against the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: He's a guy they like to they like in the
Speaker 3: passing game as well, with dump offs and stuff like
Speaker 3: that out of the backfield. So yeah, of course, obviously
Speaker 3: you've got David and Jok, who he's been dealing with
Speaker 3: some injuries here and there.
Speaker 4: Over of course that you're dealing with a hamstring injury.
Speaker 3: Right now, You've got Elijah Moore, of another South Florida
Speaker 3: guy who you know can really work over.
Speaker 4: The middle of the field.
Speaker 3: But definitely it's gonna kind of start and end with
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy, especially if you've got a young quarterback who's
Speaker 3: gonna be looking for him early and often.
Speaker 1: In DTR That's a team that next year, if they
Speaker 1: do get that quarterback position figured out, and with Kevin
Speaker 1: Stefanski a big believer in him as well, I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a team that can bounce back and
Speaker 1: have one of those turnarounds here pretty quickly if they
Speaker 1: get that position figured out. And speaking of how quickly
Speaker 1: things can change, man, like, it seemed like I go
Speaker 1: back to you know, Baker's last year when he played
Speaker 1: through all those injuries and kind of, I guess wore
Speaker 1: out his welcome in Cleveland, I thought, unfittingly. So you know,
Speaker 1: he's kind of gone to prove that that that was
Speaker 1: probably the wrong move with the Buccaneers now, but you
Speaker 1: go back to those Browns teams and it was like, man,
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, Jedrick Wills, Jack Conklin. You know, this this
Speaker 1: interior offensive line that's one of the best in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and that was kind of the Packers or the Packers
Speaker 1: the Browns.
Speaker 2: Why am I on the Packers today?
Speaker 1: That was one of the Like, the Brown's identity was
Speaker 1: that offensive line and kind of burying teams with the
Speaker 1: running game. But it hasn't been that way the last
Speaker 1: couple of years because of a lot of injuries but
Speaker 1: also maybe some fall off and performance. Can you just
Speaker 1: take us through the offensive line what it looks like
Speaker 1: from an injury standpoint performance standpoint, Like, just what are
Speaker 1: we dealing with upfront here for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they've used about a half dozen or
Speaker 3: more starting lineups this year just off of injury. So
Speaker 3: you got to go back to twenty twenty three when
Speaker 3: Jack Conklin, you know, suffered a really bad knee injury.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a lot of talk about how
Speaker 3: bad Nick Chubb's injury was there. You know, it was
Speaker 3: kind of a multi ligament deal and you know, multiple
Speaker 3: areas of concern with Jack Conklin and Week one and
Speaker 3: then you have Dwan Jones, you know, a mid round
Speaker 3: pick from last year's stepping very well, but.
Speaker 4: Then he goes down as well. Late in the year.
Speaker 3: You got Jajik Wills on the left side at left tackle,
Speaker 3: have an MCL injury that was really was expected to
Speaker 3: keep him out for too long, and all of a
Speaker 3: sudden he's out out for the year.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And and even you know, Joel Botonio missing some time
Speaker 3: I believe last year as well. So we have all
Speaker 3: these guys coming back from injury, you know, Wills and
Speaker 3: Conklin didn't start the didn't start the season, and one
Speaker 3: they were still kind of rehaving those injuries. Jed Wills
Speaker 3: just never really got back I think when we started
Speaker 3: three or four games, and eventually they just kind of
Speaker 3: shut him down. Jaed Conkin has kind of settled that
Speaker 3: spot on the right side again. But unfortunately Dwan Jones
Speaker 3: you know, uh, suffered a fractured fibula, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: in his legs, so he's out for the year again.
Speaker 3: Hawaiatt Teller's missed some time, Ethan Poitics, the centers missed
Speaker 3: some time. So the first half of the year, you know,
Speaker 3: again Deshaun Watson was not playing well, but there there
Speaker 3: was a lot around him that wasn't you know, falling
Speaker 3: in line as well, And I'd say that the offensive
Speaker 3: line played a big role in terms of injuries.
Speaker 4: And then the change in incorporating a new scheme.
Speaker 3: Again, this was a you know, kind of Shanahan style
Speaker 3: West Coast offense with a lot of with a lot
Speaker 3: of you know, wide zone, outside zone with Nick Chubb,
Speaker 3: find the cutback lanes and then they did a lot
Speaker 3: of you know, pulling guards and stuff like that. And
Speaker 3: then when they went to the more spread out approach,
Speaker 3: they kind of shifted to more inside zone. So in
Speaker 3: addition to kind of new in additions to putting a
Speaker 3: focus on different types of rue plays, you know, you're
Speaker 3: you're bringing in, you have a new.
Speaker 4: Offensive line coach.
Speaker 3: You know, Bill Callahan, you know is who is you know,
Speaker 3: one of the most respected offensive line coaches in the
Speaker 3: in the NFL.
Speaker 4: You know, he goes to join his son in Tennessee
Speaker 4: to be the coach there.
Speaker 3: So you have a new offensive line coach with new principals,
Speaker 3: and it was a lot of turnover, and you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes it is tough to incorporate a new scheme, especially
Speaker 3: when it's completely different what you've done before.
Speaker 4: I think they have definitely settled down, you know, the
Speaker 4: second half of the year.
Speaker 3: They streamlined some stuff in terms of their protections, and
Speaker 3: I think that, you know, some of the older guys
Speaker 3: on that offensive line, particularly Taylor and Potonio, start to play,
Speaker 3: you know, like we're accustomed to see them.
Speaker 4: But yeah, there there has been a bit of drop off,
Speaker 4: especially in the one game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that you know, this system in particular,
Speaker 1: like you talk about the system change, this is a
Speaker 1: system as steeped in continuity.
Speaker 2: My listeners know.
Speaker 1: I've talked about that all year long, with how important
Speaker 1: it is to have kind of you know, if they're
Speaker 1: gonna bump or slide their second level of the defense,
Speaker 1: the offensive line has to adjust in real time to
Speaker 1: be able to you know, communicate those assignment changes in
Speaker 1: the blocking game. And so I can only imagine how
Speaker 1: tough it is to go through all those injuries, go
Speaker 1: through a scheme change, go through quarterback changes. It is
Speaker 1: tough if you don't have continuity in this league, especially
Speaker 1: in this system. So really good Stufflet's go ahead and
Speaker 1: take a quick break rate there. Come back on the
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Speaker 1: We have covered the Browns offense here ahead of Dolphins
Speaker 1: and Browns on Sunday from Cleveland. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: get a few questions here about this defense, because well, one,
Speaker 1: they have a player who has made no secret about
Speaker 1: his desires to win the individual award this year in
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. Is Miles Garrett On to
Speaker 1: capture a DePoy and just tell us about his impact
Speaker 1: on that Browns defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, obviously he's the Randing Defensive Player of the
Speaker 3: Year and he's put up a very very strong case
Speaker 3: to win that award again. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a little tough this year around. You know, I think
Speaker 3: last year he was definitely bolstered. That case was definitely
Speaker 3: bolstered by, you know, the elite defense that he was
Speaker 3: playing on. You know, they finished one number one in
Speaker 3: several metrics. There has been some regression and I think
Speaker 3: he expected you know, you know, defense can be a
Speaker 3: little volatile from year to year, and I think that
Speaker 3: posting offenses have kind of had a better grasp of
Speaker 3: that Jim Schwartz led defense.
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be tough. You know, he's top three,
Speaker 4: top five in sacks.
Speaker 3: Right now, you know, approaching you know, right around one
Speaker 3: hundred sacks first career, but just the level the play
Speaker 3: of the defense and the team success, I think it's
Speaker 3: gonna make it hard for him to for him to repeat.
Speaker 3: But you know, he's you know, seeing him up close,
Speaker 3: He's definitely on the short list of best players that
Speaker 3: I've seen.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I've covered up close. You know,
Speaker 4: I think about when I was my.
Speaker 3: First watch Tyree the first plays and I saw when
Speaker 3: I just saw him like a blur over the middle
Speaker 3: of the field in the way that he kind of
Speaker 3: you know, you know, cut the difference on the angles
Speaker 3: and you know, separated from the defense, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: this guy is different. You know, watching Miles Garrett at
Speaker 3: training camp just completely wreck the offenses plan every single
Speaker 3: place at the point where I'm like, why is he
Speaker 3: even practicing?
Speaker 4: Like this is completely counterproductive? You know.
Speaker 3: So he's definitely on the short list greatest players I've
Speaker 3: covered up with, you know, Tyree, Lamar Jackson, and others.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that because when you were talking
Speaker 1: about him in his greatness and you know the fact
Speaker 1: that he's in the running for back to back d
Speaker 1: poys here, it reminds me of the draft discourse when
Speaker 1: he came out, when it was like he was so
Speaker 1: dang good and everybody knew about it that it kind
Speaker 1: of you get that draft fatigue where you start getting
Speaker 1: those takes, like in the march in early April, where
Speaker 1: it's like, well, actually, Miles Garrett didn't have enough sacks
Speaker 1: against SDC, and it's just like, all right, calm down,
Speaker 1: He's he's the best, and you can, like to your point,
Speaker 1: like you can just see it with with how he looks,
Speaker 1: so he's he's kind of the focal point there. I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you one more question here and you
Speaker 1: can sprinkle in some names. Do you think are big
Speaker 1: impact players in that defense? But I'm really most concerned
Speaker 1: about how Jim Schwartz might attack Tua and the Dolphins offense,
Speaker 1: because we know Jim loves to be aggressive. He can
Speaker 1: throw those fire zones at you. We saw Demiko. Ryan's
Speaker 1: really kind of you know, confused to the best anybody
Speaker 1: has all year a couple of weeks ago. What do
Speaker 1: you think Jim Schwartz is cooking up for Tua and
Speaker 1: who's gonna help him get that game plan to victory
Speaker 1: against these Dolphins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really interested in this matchup because, you know,
Speaker 3: during my time covering the Dolphins, you know, the previous
Speaker 3: three seasons, especially like when Mike McDaniel, you know, came in,
Speaker 3: we saw a lot of teams be very deliberate in
Speaker 3: the way that they wanted to defend. You know, this
Speaker 3: this kind of track tax speat offense, and I was,
Speaker 3: you know, played too high cover two shelves. You know
Speaker 3: in some cases, you know press Man or kind of
Speaker 3: press Tyreek and Jill Nwado at the line of screamage,
Speaker 3: but don't let anything over top, and I make sure
Speaker 3: you have an extra guy over top and kind of
Speaker 3: drop into deep, deep zones. And you know, that's not
Speaker 3: really the m of Jim Swartz. He's a guy that
Speaker 3: likes to play a lot of cover one single high coverage.
Speaker 3: He has a lot of faith in in this cornerback
Speaker 3: room and Cleveland. They invested a lot in terms of
Speaker 3: draft picks and money and whatnot with you know, Denzel
Speaker 3: Ward who I think is having an all pro Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl level season.
Speaker 4: Martin Emerson, who struggled this year.
Speaker 3: But it's a really you know, big long cornerback and
Speaker 3: we're going to lose Somes out for the year right
Speaker 3: now with the Hampshire injury. But you know, in the slot,
Speaker 3: you know, they rely on those guys a lot, and
Speaker 3: you know, typically teams haven't fared well when you're just
Speaker 3: gonna you know, kind of line up play man and
Speaker 3: play single high. I think that one thing, especially this
Speaker 3: year is that they've really tried to add rinkles and
Speaker 3: kind of disguise a lot more pre snap and rotate,
Speaker 3: so like maybe show too high and then rotate to
Speaker 3: single high, uh, with you know some abody dropping down
Speaker 3: and kind of like a robber position as well.
Speaker 4: So I would expect to see that as well.
Speaker 3: I think that you know, Jim schwartz is I asked
Speaker 3: him about, you know, playing too high and stuff like
Speaker 3: that earlier in the year and he's he's like, hey, like,
Speaker 3: you got to play to the strengths of your of
Speaker 3: your defense, and this is a defense that likes to
Speaker 3: be aggressive and attack. So I wouldn't I'd expect more
Speaker 3: of the same, but maybe, you know, like you said,
Speaker 3: with Demico, like all Demika Ryans and other teams that
Speaker 3: have had success, you know, show a lot pre snap
Speaker 3: and the rotating into what you really want to get
Speaker 3: into in hopes of kind of you know, confusing to
Speaker 3: and some some of those mistakes. And I think that obviously,
Speaker 3: with the kind of the precarious tackle position and just
Speaker 3: overall offensive line position, I think that they're they're gonna
Speaker 3: they're gonna, you know, have faith in that matchup. You know, obviously, uh,
Speaker 3: they're gonna move Miles Garrett around a lot, but you know,
Speaker 3: if you know, tackles are injured, you know they're gonna
Speaker 3: let him stay on kind of pick a side that
Speaker 3: he wants to kind of kind of work on it
Speaker 3: and work that matchup as well. But you know, the
Speaker 3: the Browns have a have a you know, pretty experienced
Speaker 3: defensive line. They have some playing some young guys just
Speaker 3: because of the nature of the season and trading and
Speaker 3: partner with some veterans. But that's a defensive mind that's
Speaker 3: pretty played pretty well this year.
Speaker 4: So it's going to be a big matchup on Sunday.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it could be a lot of quick
Speaker 1: game versus pressure looks and throwing into you know, basically
Speaker 1: trying to re route some of those those quick game
Speaker 1: routes with their zone coverage and even some man as well.
Speaker 2: So that's interesting.
Speaker 1: And the reason I mentioned that the Texans game was
Speaker 1: because Man Daniel, the way they ran that inverted to
Speaker 1: look with Derek Stingley who can somehow cover the deep
Speaker 1: third and then also the curl flat all on the
Speaker 1: same route, which gives you twelve defensive players in the field,
Speaker 1: makes it pretty.
Speaker 4: Buns love doing that. Dudes loved doing that.
Speaker 3: They've done that inverted to a lot, So I definitely
Speaker 3: would expect to see that and some in some moments,
Speaker 3: and you know, the Browns had been burnt on it, you.
Speaker 5: Know they were.
Speaker 3: There was an eighty nine yard touchdown I believe that
Speaker 3: Monday night game against Denver which came from the inverted
Speaker 3: to look.
Speaker 4: So there are some opportunities, you know.
Speaker 3: When it when it works, it works great if we
Speaker 3: confuse the quarterback, but if you have a quarterback that
Speaker 3: can really you know, diagnose it, you know, posting that
Speaker 3: pretty quickly, there are some opportunities as well. So there's
Speaker 3: going to be a really fun chess match in terms
Speaker 3: of you know, premium posting skies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really good stuff. That's what we'd like talking
Speaker 2: about here on the show.
Speaker 1: And I feel like even just maybe five years ago,
Speaker 1: like inverted two is almost a bad word, like you
Speaker 1: run in vert two, what do you know what you're doing?
Speaker 1: But now it's like, I mean, some of these best
Speaker 1: dcs are cooking it up and it's working. To your point,
Speaker 1: it has its downsides as well, and I would assume
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are a team with their speed on the perimeter,
Speaker 1: it could actually exploit that pretty well. And we'll see
Speaker 1: about Waddle and you know, Tyreek going into this game.
Speaker 1: But I digress. Let's go ahead and finish here on
Speaker 1: the very last question I have for you, Dane, if
Speaker 1: you want to just wrap it up for us just quickly,
Speaker 1: The Browns win this game in Cleveland against the Dolphins
Speaker 1: if and then you're you're the floor is yours.
Speaker 3: The Browns win this game if their defense takes over. Now,
Speaker 3: this is a defense that again has progressed from last year.
Speaker 3: But they've been putting some bad spots, you know, the
Speaker 3: first half.
Speaker 5: Of the year.
Speaker 3: You know they've you know, they've played so many, so
Speaker 3: many more minutes compared to like the average defense, because
Speaker 3: you know, there's been so many three and hours turnovers
Speaker 3: and what so like.
Speaker 4: They usually start very well and.
Speaker 3: Then they kind of wear out as the as the
Speaker 3: game goes on because you know, they're putting so many
Speaker 3: bad spots and that forced to play so many extra minutes.
Speaker 3: But I will say one thing that has not carried
Speaker 3: over from the previous year is takeaways and turnovers, and
Speaker 3: I think that they need that to support in offense.
Speaker 3: It's probably gonna be led by a young quarterback. It
Speaker 3: might not be as explosive as it was with Jameis
Speaker 3: Winston under center. So again, they're going to be at home.
Speaker 3: It's going to be you know, four pm kickoff. You know,
Speaker 3: maybe quarter temperature than usual. We all know about the
Speaker 3: you know, the the issues in the cold. However, you
Speaker 3: want to really want to believe in the narrative or
Speaker 3: not for the Dolphins, you know this is you know,
Speaker 3: they they have to take control of this game and
Speaker 3: really make too in this offense uncomfortable and put their
Speaker 3: offense set their offense of for success.
Speaker 1: He's a Cleveland Browns reporter for ESPN. His name is
Speaker 1: his at on social at Daniel OYAFUSI. Daniel, you're I
Speaker 1: tell you all the time. You're the perfect drive time guest.
Speaker 1: You give us the perfect balance of insight to the
Speaker 1: team boots on the ground, but also the ex's and
Speaker 1: those we love talking about here on the show.
Speaker 2: It's great to hear from you again.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're doing really well up there. And uh,
Speaker 2: we'll see you in well.
Speaker 1: We're the sausage gets made recording this podcast ahead of
Speaker 1: time because the holiday, the holiday breaks, so we'll see
Speaker 1: you boy a week, my friend.
Speaker 4: Most definitely, I'll be already talking with you and.
Speaker 1: Away, he goes. I love talking football with Daniel. We've
Speaker 1: had a bunch of good guests in the show this
Speaker 1: year in terms of beat riders that know their stuff.
Speaker 1: It's kind of our aim on the show. I guess
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Let's go ahead and wrap up the
Speaker 1: segment real quick with the Week seventeen picks. We are
Speaker 1: fresh off a ten and six week. Did not follow
Speaker 1: up the fifteen to one week and Week fifteen that well,
Speaker 1: but ten and six puts us at seventy two point
Speaker 1: five percent right now. Luckily we cashed wins on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I have the Seahawks over the Bears on Thursday. We'll
Speaker 1: see how that plays out. Go ahead and cue the music,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna start on Saturday morning or I guess
Speaker 1: one o'clock games. I'm still like five years in saying
Speaker 1: the ten am games like Saturday morning, like I'm still
Speaker 1: not there yet.
Speaker 2: I'll take the Patriots over the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I think that traveling to the East Coast for a
Speaker 1: cold weather game for a Dome team that doesn't separate
Speaker 1: that well against a team that plays little man coverage,
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots get a win here and to
Speaker 1: spoil their draft pick and spoil the Chargers celebration for
Speaker 1: the playoffs for one more week at least. And already
Speaker 1: with that game result, you know that your game against
Speaker 1: the Browns will matter because you'll be alive in Week eighteen.
Speaker 1: But it gets even better because the Bengals, I think,
Speaker 1: are going to wipe the floor quite frankly with the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, and then you're gonna have all kinds of
Speaker 1: opening pass to finding your way into the playoffs. The
Speaker 1: Rams over the Cardinals to close out the triple header
Speaker 1: on Saturday, I'll take the Bucks over the Panthers. I'll
Speaker 1: take the Bills over the Jets, even without anything to
Speaker 1: play for. I think the Bills still play their guys
Speaker 1: in this game and kind of rest them for Week
Speaker 1: eighteen against the Patriots next week.
Speaker 2: I'll take the Colts over the Giants.
Speaker 1: I really hope it's the Giants, but I cannot pick
Speaker 1: that team to win a football game. Packers over the Vikings,
Speaker 1: which goes back to the opening of yesterday show where
Speaker 1: I said that I think the Packers and Lions results
Speaker 1: will make it a Week eighteens. Game between the Lions
Speaker 1: and Vikings does not matter, and so therefore, I think
Speaker 1: all these AFC games will be the ones that get
Speaker 1: flex into primetime spots. I'm taking the Saints over the Raiders,
Speaker 1: the Titans over the Jags, the Dolphins over the Browns.
Speaker 1: You knew that We'll take the Eagles over the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: the Commanders over the Falcons on Sunday Night Football, and
Speaker 1: the Lions over the Niners on Monday Night Football. Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and take our last break right there, come
Speaker 1: back and finish up with Kyle Krabs. Draft Time podcast
Speaker 1: your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation.
Speaker 2: For the first time this year with our.
Speaker 1: Weekly guest, Kyle Krabs, We're going to go ahead and
Speaker 1: look ahead a little bit as the college football playoff
Speaker 1: takes a weekend off, but we'll see the boys back
Speaker 1: on the field four games, beginning on New Year's Eve
Speaker 1: with Penn State, Boise State, and then New Year's Day
Speaker 1: a tripleheader Texas, Arizona State, Ohio State, Oregon, and Notre
Speaker 1: Dame Georgia. Kyle, first off, how was the holiday season?
Speaker 1: And how great is this time of year? Man football
Speaker 1: every day?
Speaker 5: And as as drivetime listeners are listening to this, we
Speaker 5: had games on on Wednesday, we had game on Thursday,
Speaker 5: we have standlow games on Friday, we have games on Saturday.
Speaker 2: It's the best Sunday.
Speaker 5: It's an awesome stretch of football. So Holidays, we're good.
Speaker 5: Hope you guys had a great holiday as well, and
Speaker 5: just enjoying this last final gasp of all the football
Speaker 5: that you could possibly consume.
Speaker 1: That's why we turned to him for the expertise on
Speaker 1: all these things. And I believe you have a piece
Speaker 1: coming up here shortly on the thirty third team.
Speaker 2: What are you working on?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's looking at offensive line prospects for the twenty
Speaker 5: twenty five NFL Draft and whether they're what their big
Speaker 5: question is as far as that agile question of is
Speaker 5: he a garter?
Speaker 4: Is he a tackle?
Speaker 5: So looking at I got fifteen offensive lineman lined up
Speaker 5: from this year's class and looking at each one of
Speaker 5: them individually with what their question is, and then how
Speaker 5: this offseason cycle can help them decipher whether or not
Speaker 5: they're going to be a garter or tackle the next level.
Speaker 1: Well, I know Dolphins fans love talking about the discourse
Speaker 1: on the offensive lines. I go check it out Kyle
Speaker 1: Krabs's latest taking a look at the offensive line prospects.
Speaker 2: Is there a guy or two in there that you
Speaker 2: like for Miami scheme?
Speaker 5: Kyle, there's a bunch of guys that in particularly you
Speaker 5: like for the scheme when you understand the entire objective
Speaker 5: of the Shanahan Tree of offensive coaching, regardless of what
Speaker 5: flavor of it it is in Miami or Green Bay
Speaker 5: or San Francisco or LA with the Rams or Houston.
Speaker 5: You want to reduce the time on tat or time
Speaker 5: under tension for your offensive lineman as much as possible,
Speaker 5: and you achieve that by selling run action even when
Speaker 5: you're passing the football, and there's a lot of guys
Speaker 5: who I think the art of true drop back past
Speaker 5: sets and setting for seven step drops from under center
Speaker 5: to have deep shot plays that like, those kinds of
Speaker 5: players at the college level are a little bit of
Speaker 5: dying breed with what the rules are in college right now.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of guys who are really good
Speaker 5: at being athletic and firing off the ball and using
Speaker 5: their athleticism and can create that picture that you then
Speaker 5: if you have grip strength and length and foot speed
Speaker 5: to be able to mirror once you're attached to guys,
Speaker 5: it can really parlay into a likable profile for an
Speaker 5: offensive lineman for an offense like the one Miami runs.
Speaker 1: That's why I love asking you because, as coach McDaniel said,
Speaker 1: we play offensive line different than pretty much anybody else
Speaker 1: in terms of this system. And you see that play
Speaker 1: out with how it looks on tape. So good stuff
Speaker 1: all around. Let's go ahead and rip through these games
Speaker 1: real real quick. And my goodness, man, you're Alma mater.
Speaker 1: I mean, the sixth seed might be the best seed
Speaker 1: you can have because they go from a game against SMU,
Speaker 1: who had a great year, But I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think they were ever going to compete with these top
Speaker 1: dogs at this level. And now they get Boise State
Speaker 1: and you know, Ashton gen he's my favorite player in
Speaker 1: the entire country. He could be anybody by himself. But
Speaker 1: it's going to be a tall order for the Broncos
Speaker 1: come New Year's Eve. Here, what's your scouting angle on
Speaker 1: this game, Penn State Boise State?
Speaker 5: I just think penns State's got too much athleticism for
Speaker 5: Boise State to you know, kind of like what you
Speaker 5: saw with SMU where that matchup was. Generally, the college
Speaker 5: game is a little bit less quarterback driven than the
Speaker 5: pro game is at times. But if you have a
Speaker 5: quarterback that has players around him, I think you saw
Speaker 5: this in the Notre Dame Indiana game. I thought you
Speaker 5: saw this in the Penn State SMU game in the
Speaker 5: first round of playoff. If the defensive speed is just
Speaker 5: at a certain level and you don't have enough answers.
Speaker 5: And I know Ashton Genty had a productive day when
Speaker 5: they played the Oregon Ducks. Maybe he can put the
Speaker 5: Superman cape on and remind everybody why he had such
Speaker 5: a strong case for the Heisman, But it's going to
Speaker 5: require that kind of showing because if Penn State is
Speaker 5: able to get up on top, and with a guy
Speaker 5: like Adel Carter, I think he's going to be really
Speaker 5: difficult for boys to account for. And because you can
Speaker 5: move him around as a weapon, I think there's more
Speaker 5: opportunity for you to put him in the path of
Speaker 5: Ashton Genty. I think that's gonna be too much to handle.
Speaker 5: So I think Penn State wins, and probably wins by
Speaker 5: a couple of scores.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to that one, man, I mean it's been
Speaker 1: that way so far early on these playoffs, and the
Speaker 1: next game doesn't really feature I mean the points spreads
Speaker 1: even larger in this one for Texas Arizona State. So
Speaker 1: what are you looking at from a scouting angle? And
Speaker 1: let's see this is the Chick fil a peach bawl.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I am really excited for Cam Scattabo, the running
Speaker 5: back from Arizona State, who is two hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: five pounds of the modern day incarnation of what Mike
Speaker 5: all Scott was as a runner. Right, He's not that big,
Speaker 5: He's got some Larry Zanga jeans in him. For the
Speaker 5: analogy that Dolphins fans can appreciate his dude runs angry,
Speaker 5: he runs physical. It is hilarious watching him pinball off
Speaker 5: of contact and going against Texas. Texas definitely has some
Speaker 5: dudes on the defensive side of the ball who are
Speaker 5: going to make life difficult for them, but he's a
Speaker 5: player who plays through contact. Arizona State, I love what
Speaker 5: coach Dillingham is doing there with that program, that they
Speaker 5: really have a great energy about them. But I just
Speaker 5: think Texas is a little bit too much blue blood
Speaker 5: as far as the talent, the NFL talent versus going
Speaker 5: against a program that's still in their youth and infancy
Speaker 5: of really being on this stage. So I think Texas
Speaker 5: is going to win this game. I would look as
Speaker 5: the trenches as being the reason why. But Cam Scatibo
Speaker 5: is the running back from Arizona State, might be my
Speaker 5: favorite storyline of the game.
Speaker 4: To see how he plays against Texas.
Speaker 2: It's comical sometimes.
Speaker 1: His tape because you'd like you mentioned the pinballing phrases
Speaker 1: is perfectly described the way he runs the football and yeah, man,
Speaker 1: looking at the schedule again, like i've we should re
Speaker 1: rank and recede at the stage of the tournament because
Speaker 1: Ohio State Oregon, which is going to be the roles
Speaker 1: Ball five o'clock kickoff, which is the best game aesthetic
Speaker 1: in the world of football, like from the Pasadena standpoint,
Speaker 1: the way the sun sets around the third or fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: you get you know, it's always it's always been a
Speaker 1: Pac twelve Big ten team, like it is here again,
Speaker 1: or I guess they're both Big ten teams. But I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the shortest spread of the weekend and it's
Speaker 1: you know, Oregon's the best team in the country.
Speaker 2: I feel like they kind of got job there. What
Speaker 2: say you on that? And then also give us the
Speaker 2: game preview if you can't go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the aesthetics of this game are going
Speaker 5: to be right out there at the top. I don't
Speaker 5: know what uniforms like Miami and Cleveland are wearing this Sunday,
Speaker 5: but the aesthetics of that game I think are not good. Orange.
Speaker 5: I actually thought Miami Sir Francisco, Yeah, beautiful, had a
Speaker 5: great that had a great aesthetic to it as far
Speaker 5: as the uniforms, and obviously the hard Rock Stadium is
Speaker 5: such a beautiful venue in general, but Ohio State Oregon
Speaker 5: as far as the game goes once you get outside
Speaker 5: of the pageantry of a rematch of a one point
Speaker 5: game last time, that came right down to Ohio State
Speaker 5: being on the fringe of an opportunity to kick a
Speaker 5: field goal to win the game and they ran out
Speaker 5: of time. This is a really hard won the poll
Speaker 5: for me. I imagine Oregon won the first matchup in
Speaker 5: Ohio State's lost forty percent of the starting offensive line
Speaker 5: since that game. The Ducks have talent on defense. Will
Speaker 5: Howard's playing pretty darn good at quarterback for Ohio State though,
Speaker 5: and they obviously have the ability with Jeremiah Smith and
Speaker 5: Ameca Buca. Smith's not draft eligible, but Abuka has been
Speaker 5: around for a long time, and I think people take
Speaker 5: for granted how good is he's a player, just because
Speaker 5: he's been on the scene nationally for three four years now.
Speaker 5: I'll pick Oregon to win the game, But if you
Speaker 5: told me that Ohio State came in with the needed
Speaker 5: edge because of the way the last game ended last time,
Speaker 5: it would not surprise me. But they will miss Josh Simmons,
Speaker 5: the tackle who went down in the first half of
Speaker 5: that game, and you could tell it kind of really
Speaker 5: threw him for a loop offensively, and they just don't
Speaker 5: have the solution opportunities I think on their roster right now.
Speaker 5: So I think that'll be another problem for them against
Speaker 5: Oregon the second time around.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to that one as well as this next
Speaker 1: game too, but I think I think Tes Johnson could
Speaker 1: be due for yet another big, big, explosive game here,
Speaker 1: like he showed you the Big Ten Championship Game, shades
Speaker 1: of Jackson Smith and Jig Buffy years back, with C. J.
Speaker 1: Stroud throwing him the ball all over the lot. Notre
Speaker 1: Dame at Georgia All State Sugar Bowl. It's an eight
Speaker 1: forty five kickoff. We're gonna be up to one o'clock
Speaker 1: watching that one on New Year's Day? Kyle, what you're
Speaker 1: leaning there?
Speaker 5: I hope it gives us reason to stay up and
Speaker 5: watch it that late, because that means we got ourselves
Speaker 5: a good football game. This is two great defenses going
Speaker 5: against each other. It being so close to Georgia in
Speaker 5: New Orleans, I'd expect there's gonna be a pretty heavy
Speaker 5: red lean in the fans in the stands for this game.
Speaker 5: Georgian not having Carson Beck is an interesting subplot to
Speaker 5: this game, But I do think that they're going to
Speaker 5: have the running game at their disposal, and I think
Speaker 5: enough physicality on the offensive line to win a low
Speaker 5: scoring contest. I would not trust Riley Leonard, the quarterback
Speaker 5: for Notre Dame, to go out and play winning football
Speaker 5: for sixty minutes against George's defense, which is just loaded
Speaker 5: with NFL talent. So I think George's defense versus Notre
Speaker 5: Dames offense with Riley Leonard is the matchup that excuse
Speaker 5: me towards Georgia regardless.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to that one as well. Like I said,
Speaker 1: Orange Bowl is going to be here the week after that.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to hopefully Penn State Georgia for that
Speaker 1: one and go check out a big time college football
Speaker 1: game here in my own backyard.
Speaker 3: Kyle.
Speaker 1: The thing I want to end with here with you is,
Speaker 1: you know the episode of Rick and Morty when Jerry
Speaker 1: states that Pluto is in fact a planet and then
Speaker 1: winds up getting picked up and taken to Pluto to help,
Speaker 1: you know, propagate his thoughts so they can continue to
Speaker 1: mine the planet for plutonium. And it's evil, right, It's
Speaker 1: a corporation type of politics they're talking about there. My
Speaker 1: question to you I want you to be my Jerry
Speaker 1: Smith here and tell me that you think the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: if they take care of business, might have a chance
Speaker 1: to sneak in Here in the back end, I know
Speaker 1: you're talking about a potentially fruitful day tomorrow on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Dolphins could get the help they
Speaker 1: need across the NFL?
Speaker 5: Travis, you know what, I'm going to tell you that
Speaker 5: I hope the Dolphin can go one to zero on
Speaker 5: Sunday against the Browns and see what happens. We have
Speaker 5: this running joke between the two of us about you'll
Speaker 5: want to know versus a big picture. But I Cincinnati's
Speaker 5: red hot man and Joe Burrow's playing quarterback as well
Speaker 5: as anybody in the league right now. And when you're
Speaker 5: Denver and you have a rookie quarterback, and I know
Speaker 5: Cincinnati's defense has their issues. If there's pressure to go
Speaker 5: blow for blow and score, yeah, I would take I
Speaker 5: would take Joe Burrow and that instance. And Cincinnati's at
Speaker 5: home and Cincinnati's playing and they have the same issue
Speaker 5: Miami has, but they need more help because they need
Speaker 5: Miami to lose a game. But they are still mathematically
Speaker 5: alive for the playoffs, so you know they're going to
Speaker 5: give their best effort and they flip the switch defensively
Speaker 5: to create more turnovers. So I think that is a
Speaker 5: matchup where I would pick the Bengals to win that game.
Speaker 5: And then you know, I know that the Charters got
Speaker 5: a little extra rest coming off the Thursday game last
Speaker 5: week against the Broncos, but I would not be surprised
Speaker 5: to see the Patriots give them a little bit the
Speaker 5: Chargers a little bit of fits on Saturday either, because
Speaker 5: this is a West Coast team that's coming east to
Speaker 5: play in the cold. The Chargers, I know they put
Speaker 5: up big time rushing numbers on the Broncos last week,
Speaker 5: but the month before that, they'd really struggled to run
Speaker 5: the ball and they don't really have separators against the
Speaker 5: defense like New Englands, where it's not what it was
Speaker 5: as its peak, but it's it's still a pretty impactful unit.
Speaker 5: So if you told me that the AFC West teams
Speaker 5: playing on Saturday went oh for two, I would not
Speaker 5: be all surprised if that were to happen. And then
Speaker 5: if that's the case, then you're you're going in to
Speaker 5: your game. If you're Miami against the Browns totally alive
Speaker 5: and take care business, and then we'll reshuffle the deck
Speaker 5: again for next week.
Speaker 2: Planet.
Speaker 1: That's exactly how I picked it on the Picks, right
Speaker 1: before Kyle came on the show here. So I do
Speaker 1: believe Miami will have life going into week eighteen. Those though,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not for their own doing, but the
Speaker 1: schedule they play makes me a little bit worried about
Speaker 1: what might happen down the stretch there, because I also
Speaker 1: think there's a good chance the Broncos, even with you
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz starting, could could you know, give way to
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in week eighteen?
Speaker 2: You can't rest everybody.
Speaker 1: Everyone talks about like they're gonna rest starters, like you
Speaker 1: can only rest so many guys because you only have
Speaker 1: such a deep roster. So we'll see how it plays
Speaker 1: out again, Kyle, thank you for your time. As always,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get those credentials on social He
Speaker 1: is at Kyle Krabs, the host of Lockdown Dolphins podcast,
Speaker 1: locked on NFL Scouting, author of Touchdown Miami, Substack, and
Speaker 1: of course NFL Draft Leave for the thirty third team.
Speaker 1: Check out his recent post on the offensive line there. Kyle,
Speaker 1: you're the best. Thank you man.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you on next week. All right, brother,
Speaker 2: sounds good and away he goes.
Speaker 1: Always fun talking to Kyle. We'll have that a couple
Speaker 1: more times in the regular or I should say the
Speaker 1: football season in general for college, and then we'll have
Speaker 1: Kyle on for some more draft content in the off season.
Speaker 1: But until Sunday, we'll talk to you guys. Then I'm
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