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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, We're going to have a great Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: Some of you will see or hear this on Monday

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Speaker 2: Morning podcast, Calling Coward podcast. I just got back from

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Speaker 2: nine ten amazing days on the coast of Rhode Island

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Speaker 2: walking on the beach.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I want to give you a health tip.

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Speaker 2: I read a study about a month ago where it

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Speaker 2: said if you take your shoes off and walk on

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Speaker 2: grass or walk on the beach for thirty minutes today,

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Speaker 2: it has health benefits. So for the last six months minimum,

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Speaker 2: I've had a messed up left foot, left toe, too

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Speaker 2: many dress shoes, not enough ventilation from my feet. So

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Speaker 2: I get to Rhode Island and I take my shoes

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Speaker 2: off every morning and I go for a ninety minute

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Speaker 2: to two hour walk on the beach. Five days in

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Speaker 2: a row salt water Atlantic Ocean. My foot is completely healed,

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Speaker 2: no soreness, no red, no scars, no issues.

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Speaker 3: So this is right.

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Speaker 2: Take your shoes off, walk on the beach, walk in

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Speaker 2: the yard, let those feet breathe. It did it for me.

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Speaker 2: I told my wife, it's like a revelation. I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to live that long anyway. I live too long

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Speaker 2: but at least I want my feet and give me

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Speaker 2: an extra year or two on the back end of

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Speaker 2: my life.

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Speaker 3: So I think I've found that. So let's talk some

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Speaker 3: college football. The story of the weekend.

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Speaker 2: To me, it's too bad the PAC twelve's going away,

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Speaker 2: because I think it's the best it's ever been. It's

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Speaker 2: the only college football conference Power five conference that hasn't

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Speaker 2: lost a game yet, and they're completely stacked at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I thought Dion Sanders, I said this

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Speaker 2: multiple times. I thought he would give the program juice

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Speaker 2: and publicity, and Colorado football needs it, so therefore I

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Speaker 2: thought it was a good hire. But I didn't think

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Speaker 2: they'd be very good this year because I didn't think

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Speaker 2: you could bring in seventy five percent of your program

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Speaker 2: to the transfer portal and be anything other than a

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Speaker 2: bit inefficient and chaotic and mistake prone. Early, I was

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Speaker 2: shocked at how not well coached Deon Sanders obviously can coach.

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Speaker 2: We saw that at Jackson State, but for a first

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Speaker 2: game with a seventy to seventy five percent transfer portal team,

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Speaker 2: this isn't the NFL. There's no preseason games, there's no

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Speaker 2: intersquad practices. These are twenty year old kids, not twenty

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Speaker 2: eight year old NFL players. They were mistake free, penalty free, seamless, smooth,

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Speaker 2: tip of the captain Dean and an entire coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've watched Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley bring in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five transfer portal guys and it's bumpy and

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Speaker 2: rocky early. Now TCU is not very good. They put

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Speaker 2: a ton of people in the NFL lost their starting quarterback,

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Speaker 2: Max Duggan for a multiple years there, so they're not

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Speaker 2: very good. But they did not look buttoned up and

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Speaker 2: Colorado did. And my other takeaway on this game is

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Speaker 2: that this year in the Pac twelve, for people that

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Speaker 2: have had, maybe since that the Andrew Luck year. There

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Speaker 2: good quarterbacks, but Cam Rising, Caleb Williams, Michael Pennix, Bo Nicks,

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Speaker 2: I text two NFL executives during that Colorado win and

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Speaker 2: I asked the question, am I nuts or do we

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Speaker 2: have another first round quarterback in the NFL? And both

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Speaker 2: executives said the same thing. His release and his accuracy

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Speaker 2: in touch were a plus plus. Dion Sanders' son is

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Speaker 2: a first round NFL quarterback. I'm almost sure of it.

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Speaker 2: Six two, six, two and a half. You know, with

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Speaker 2: the publicity and we talk a lot about Colorado football.

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Speaker 2: My takeaway was home home, Wait a minute, Dion's sun

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Speaker 2: is a first round talent. Am I nuts. I was

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Speaker 2: blown away. And again TCU had a ton of NFL

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Speaker 2: players and they weren't gonna be as good this year.

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Speaker 2: I still thought they would win. I mean they were

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Speaker 2: if you are an NFL fan and you're a maybe

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Speaker 2: Don't love his game, but he'll go in the first round.

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Speaker 2: I think Jayden Daniels at LSU has some first round traits.

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Speaker 2: Riley Leonard at Duke is raw, mostly a pocket guy

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Speaker 3: He's a big time talent. And now.

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Speaker 2: Shadu or Sanders maybe now they played Nebraska, so you know,

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Speaker 2: the hype bubble may get popped. Matt rule, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: go upset hunting. But I, first of all, typically captain Colorado,

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Speaker 2: I did not think he would come into a football

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Speaker 2: Had they lost, it wouldn't have mattered. I was seven

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Speaker 2: eight minutes into that game and they were running no huddle.

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Speaker 2: They were going a million miles an hour. It was

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Speaker 2: really slick. So that's just tremendous coaching. And I didn't

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Speaker 2: they'd have skilled players and Dion Sun would know the offense,

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Speaker 2: but to build O and D lines in that amount

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Speaker 3: Excellent work.

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Speaker 2: My other takeaway in college football is Ohio State's offensive

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Speaker 2: line and Texas offensive lines were awful, and it's not

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Speaker 2: a matter of talent. I think we have to be

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Speaker 2: totally honest here. What's happening to college football, and we've

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Speaker 2: seen it for a decade in college basketball, is that

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Speaker 2: we all know due to the transfer portal and the

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Speaker 2: watch Kansas or Duke or Carolina or the top programs

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Speaker 2: and judge them in October and November. It's all new players. Well,

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Speaker 2: in college football, we're a little bit more demanding right

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Speaker 2: out of the gate in September. But the hardest unit

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Speaker 2: for any football team to attain cohesion and chemistry is

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Speaker 2: the offensive line. That's high school, college or pro.

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Speaker 3: We all know that. You know that, I know that

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Speaker 3: everybody knows that. Well.

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Speaker 2: With a transfer portal and youth and players coming from

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Speaker 2: Texas may have been looking ahead to Alabama, but I

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Speaker 2: Ohio State's offensive line was a bit of a mess.

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Speaker 2: USC's was awful in Week one, better but still some

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Speaker 2: Offensive lines, even in professional football, they're not great in September,

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Speaker 3: Just give me six weeks.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bring on John Middelcoff, former NFL scout

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Speaker 2: in just a minute. I say this probably every year,

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Speaker 2: back to once the NFL wrote that gigantic check, that

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Speaker 2: It was a quick pivot to the NFL to make

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Speaker 2: has been highly beneficial to the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: So it's a very quarterback centric lead. We've talked about

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Speaker 2: this ad nauseum. But what I do think with the

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Speaker 2: not the only personal watching that. I think front office

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Speaker 2: the most active trade deadline. In fact, I was told

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Speaker 2: It's going to be the most active trade deadline in

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Speaker 2: throws an absolutely beautiful football. He is so poised, ball

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Speaker 2: snaps off his arm. He's a first round quarterback. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So I think we're gonna have a very strong top,

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Speaker 2: throw a name out, Mike Evans Tampa why receiver If

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in John middlecough three and out part of

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Speaker 2: the volume former NFL scout.

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Speaker 1: The conference that is dying, the Conference of Champions, we

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Speaker 1: can call it the Conference of NFL Quarterbacks, Colin, The

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve is thriving.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's I just spent the previous ten minutes a

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Speaker 2: large part talking about Dion Sanders' son. He will be

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Speaker 2: draft eligible. But your takeaway because he plays with Travis

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Speaker 2: Hunter and his dad's the coach, I thought he was

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Speaker 2: I mean, his his accuracy, deep crossing underneath flat footwork,

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Speaker 2: poise release. I mean, it was jumped off the television set.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if he goes pro?

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Speaker 1: Does he shocking? Deon Sanders kid as good as football?

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Speaker 1: Who would have thought of arguably the greatest athlete of

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Speaker 1: my life? It was that was do you know what

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Speaker 1: really jumped out to me? Colin? Just watching that game,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just on the edge of your seat for

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Speaker 1: TCU Colorado, it felt like as big as an NFL

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Speaker 2: Chicago's a major media market, it's loud. Eberflus has to win.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Philly obviously last year came really close

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Speaker 1: feel like he's that close. So the Cowboys got everyone there.

433
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Speaker 1: Their defense is deep, their offenses needs to be solid.

434
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Speaker 1: They got now Trey Lance to act like Jalen Hurts

435
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Speaker 1: in practice. And the Eagles, you know, that Super Bowl

436
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: hangover is real. We've seen it for decades. That team

437
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: that gets so close doesn't win. It kind of comes

438
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Speaker 1: back to earth, even though they got everyone coming back.

439
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Speaker 1: But like you said, the coordinator change, I don't care

440
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: how good you think the next guy up is. There's

441
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Speaker 1: usually a drop off or a learning curve.

442
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I remember a few years ago, Tom to LESCo,

443
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 2: the GM of the Chargers told me, he said, we

444
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: have this young OC name Shane Stike, and he's like, oh,

445
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: he's gonna be great. This guy is will not be

446
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Speaker 2: able to keep him. He's gonna leave. Okay, So I

447
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: want to talk about the Cowboys and the Giants because

448
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: I said this before I went on vacation, that it's

449
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: become very popular to kind of bail on the Giants

450
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: and to say, listen, it's Brian Dabole. There's a ceiling.

451
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: It's clear with Daniel Jones and the schedules harder, The

452
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: schedules not as hard as people make it out to be.

453
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Speaker 2: It's around fifteenth, eighteenth hardest, nineteenth hardest in the league.

454
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Speaker 2: It's harder than average, if I recall. But it's not

455
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: over rot it's not overbearing. The one thing I like

456
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Speaker 2: about the Giants is I do think it matters where

457
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: you're great. And they're great at left tackle. They're great

458
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: at tight end now with Waller and Saquon Barkley. They

459
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Speaker 2: have a potential great rush in in Kaevon Thibadeaux. They're

460
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: great on the defensive front. They're great offensive coaching with

461
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Speaker 2: Brian Dable, and they have an athletic quarterback in his

462
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: prime who finished with a higher passer rating than Aaron Rodgers.

463
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Speaker 2: Most of their players, their best players are not only

464
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Speaker 2: in key spots, they're all in their prime. The Rams

465
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: have players in key spots all out of their prime.

466
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Speaker 2: The Giants are young. I mean, the Cowboys have some

467
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Speaker 2: players I like, not all in key spots, but tight end, back,

468
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Speaker 2: left tackle, rush end offensive coach. I'm gonna go the

469
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Speaker 2: other way on this. I don't see a free fall

470
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Speaker 2: for the Giants. I don't think their schedules quite as

471
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Speaker 2: daunting as people are making it out to be.

472
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Speaker 3: What say you, you know it's funny.

473
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Speaker 1: I was in the car today and, you know, like

474
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Speaker 1: a weirdo, I'm thinking about who can the Giants win

475
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Speaker 1: that division? Is it possible? It would be a pretty

476
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Speaker 1: big jump, right, because the Eagles and Cowboys just have

477
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: more talent. But we just talked about coaching changes. Obviously,

478
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Speaker 1: the Eagles had a lot. Cowboys had a pretty big

479
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: one too. I mean, is Mike calling the plays him

480
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: and shot you get rid of Kellen Moore? The Giants

481
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: had zero turnover right, Kafka day ball running the offense

482
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: and weak Martin Dale's one of those classic like Fangio

483
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: level guys. He's just not going to become a head coach.

484
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Speaker 1: He's going to be there for a while, a lot

485
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Speaker 1: like Andy now with UH with Spagnola, he's going to

486
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Speaker 1: be their coordinator for a while. And even if Kafka leaves,

487
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: like day, ball can run into any moment, So the

488
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Speaker 1: consistency there. A lot of people have used this and

489
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Speaker 1: I've said this forever, and this was the comp that

490
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Speaker 1: I heard when he was coming out, because I thought

491
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Speaker 1: the pick to take Daniel Jones number six. Overall, it's

492
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Speaker 1: like he's a lot like Alex Smith. High intelligent guy,

493
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Speaker 1: little bit better arm physically, like everyone likes him, very

494
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Speaker 1: buttoned up, and for the first several years of his

495
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Speaker 1: career I was kind of out because it was hard

496
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Speaker 1: to watch him. But then looking back, it's like, look

497
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Speaker 1: who was coaching him? And then you get a guy

498
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Speaker 1: a lot like Harbach came in by that second year

499
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Speaker 1: with Alex. He ended up getting hurt in the middle

500
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Speaker 1: of the year, and that's when Kaepernick came in, but

501
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: he was shooting like a rocket ship. You're like, this

502
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: guy's a real player now, and what do they do?

503
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: They get Darren Waller, which when he's on the field.

504
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Speaker 1: You've watched him in the preseason. He's a dominant player.

505
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Speaker 1: The question can you just stay on the felt? But

506
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: if you get him, you get obviously Saquan it feels

507
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: like he's all in. He got his contract done right

508
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: away after he kind of was acting like he was

509
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: gonna hold out. That didn't last long. You draft Hiatt

510
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: from Tennessee. He can fly. This is coaching league and

511
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: their coaching staff is really really good. So are they

512
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Speaker 1: as talented as the other top two teams in their division? No,

513
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: not player for player, but like you said, key spots

514
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Speaker 1: and if Daniel Jones, they don't need him to go

515
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: from like a six to a ten, But can't he

516
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Speaker 1: go from like a six to a seven and a half?

517
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Speaker 1: Then are they looking at instead of being a nine

518
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Speaker 1: win team? Are they an eleven win team and much

519
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: more formidable. I know they beat the Vikings, but they

520
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: had no chance to probably beat the Cowboys, the Niners

521
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Speaker 1: or the Eagles. And now are they in if they

522
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Speaker 1: get to the final four in the NFC and it's

523
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Speaker 1: those four teams, could they beat one of those teams?

524
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Speaker 1: And I think it's fair to say that, yeah, they

525
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Speaker 1: might be in a position when it's all said and done,

526
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Speaker 1: to be able to at least compete with them for

527
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Speaker 1: maybe one game. They're probably not a super Bowl contender,

528
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Speaker 1: but that they might be much more legitimate as a

529
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Speaker 1: squad top to bottom when it comes to January football

530
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three than they were last year.

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Speaker 2: So, John, one of the things we do, you know,

532
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Speaker 2: the history is a great guide for what's going to happen.

533
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Speaker 2: We know, and I don't have it in front of you,

534
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: but like the last twelve teams that have been on

535
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: hard knocks, like there's one playoff win but because of

536
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, you know it's you know, he arrives in

537
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: town and the belief is he's this magic elisure and

538
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: he'll solve everything. But this is a team that's not

539
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: good at tackle. That's opening with the Bills in an

540
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: AF seed that's got pass rushers everywhere. You have an

541
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Speaker 2: older quarterback who can be prickly when things don't go

542
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: his way, and no longer is a mobile quarterback, right

543
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: like Aaron. Now he gets rid of that ball quickly,

544
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to get hit, and he's a pocket quarterback.

545
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: They have one really emerging star receiver, but Corey Davis retires,

546
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: They're pretty average at tight end. They went and got

547
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Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook, which I think helps. But I look at

548
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: this team and I think to myself, young quarterbacks, Herbert Burrow, Mahomes,

549
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: I don't worry too much about regressing O lines, old quarterbacks, Brady,

550
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers. Aaron's never had a bad old

551
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: line in Green Bay. Do you know Jordan Love in

552
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: his first two preseason games was not pressured a single time?

553
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, Stafford last year, bad old line, Brady

554
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 2: last year O line injuries in Tampa interior. I think

555
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: Buffalo wins the opener. The best part of that line

556
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: it was one and a half, now two and a half.

557
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: I think I think it could be a little bit

558
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: of it now Von Miller's not playing. But I think

559
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: this Jets team it could get really surly, really prickly,

560
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: very fast. Like I'm talking third quarter, late third quarter

561
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Speaker 2: against the Bills. Your thoughts on what we'll see.

562
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's gonna be one of the highest

563
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Speaker 1: rated games in recent memory. There's gonna be a lot

564
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Speaker 1: of eyeballs. Nine to eleven New York Rogers Bills. You're

565
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: right the von Miller news that I think was last

566
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: week right, that he was kind of trending that now

567
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: he's out four weeks, but obviously just that game specifically,

568
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: they named Makai Beckton, which is just a major question mark,

569
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: Like he is the guy even good It's one thing

570
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: to like, hey, we got this guy. He can be

571
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: a functional starter. You don't even know if he can

572
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: function out there, right can Is he gonna get your

573
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: guy killed? Or is he just gonna be a solid player.

574
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Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about him. To me, that's

575
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: a major major question mark. I would imagine Sean McDermott

576
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: is just gonna be bringing all sorts of stuff over there. Now.

577
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: Granted that's his right side. Aaron can see. He might

578
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: just have to hit the ground. Randall Cobbs starting at

579
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Speaker 1: slot receiver, I mean kind of. I'm I don't know.

580
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Speaker 1: Sometimes I buy into hard knocks. I always say I'm

581
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: not gonna watch it, and then I do. And he's

582
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: clearly in a really good headspace. But how you start matters.

583
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: Sola has to like Deon Sanders, He's just natural in

584
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: front of the team. He's really good at that, but

585
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: ultimately you gotta win, you gotta produce, so all of

586
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: a sudden you lose that game. They play Dallas, we too, right,

587
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: So I mean it's it could snowball really quick. I'm

588
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: a believer just because I think this guy, we've seen

589
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: him for the last couple of years. You're right, they

590
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: had a really good offensive live but the easiest way

591
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: to avoid question marks run the ball. Run the ball.

592
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: And that's what they did Aaron's first year when he

593
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: was kind of playing shitty in Green Bay when the

594
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: floor got there, run the ball and then we're gonna

595
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: you don't have to carry us on your shoulders, which

596
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: he ended up doing the next couple of years, which

597
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: doesn't really work in the playoffs at Lambeau. But just

598
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: try to lead the league in rushing. That makes everything

599
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: much easier. Now. One thing they got going for him again,

600
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: this is a little hard knocks gotty. Their defense looks

601
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. I mean, they got pass rushers everywhere. Quinn

602
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: Williams has a chance to be like a bigger version

603
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: of Warren Sap. They have what could be the best,

604
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: if not a top two corner. So you lock him

605
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Speaker 1: down one side of the field. If you can be

606
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: a top two or three defense and lead the league

607
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: in rushing. That usually as a formula, especially with say

608
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Speaker 1: what you want about him, he is very, very intelligent

609
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, so he can help out the pressure

610
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: of Nate Hackett and just some of those guys. And

611
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: like you said, I mean, Garrett Wilson might just we

612
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: might look up and he's one hundred and fifteen catch

613
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: guy for like a while. I mean, he's got a

614
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 1: chance to be really really special division stuff. I mean,

615
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: it's who are you gonna pick the finish last in

616
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: that division?

617
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Speaker 2: Right?

618
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Speaker 1: It's hard. You could make a case for every team,

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Speaker 1: obviously even separate the Bills who have owned that division,

620
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Speaker 1: but all other three teams winning ten but also winning seven.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna throw this out to you. Usually if

622
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: a wife talks of a pro athlete, she's giving you

623
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: the honest truth, right, it's unvarnished. Yeah, And I'm gonna

624
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: have two things converge here. You and I were both

625
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: blown away by the quality of the college quarterback played

626
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: the last two weeks, like it's better than we thought.

627
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: And Matt Stafford's wife comes out and says publicly, yeah,

628
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: like Matt doesn't connect with any of the players. They're

629
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: all too young. And I had somebody tell me, you know,

630
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: during the off season, and it was validated by Matt Stafford.

631
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: He came out and even though the Rams sort of

632
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: pushed back on this, Matt Stafford confirmed what I'd been told,

633
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: which is they tried to rework his deal to make

634
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 2: it more team friendly, and he said, no thanks. I

635
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: think the Rams are going to draft a quarterback with

636
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Speaker 2: their first pick. And here's my question. Cooper Cup now

637
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: probably doesn't play in Game one. The trade deadline, I've

638
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: been told, is going to be very active because of

639
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: the quality of the quarterbacks coming out of college. If

640
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup doesn't play in Week one, they get housed

641
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: or beat by the Seahawks. You start looking at that schedule,

642
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: It's no day at the beach. I could see the

643
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: Rams moving off Aaron Donald, moving off Stafford.

644
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Speaker 3: Now.

645
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: They do have some really good elements at key positions,

646
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: but Cooper Cup maybe not playing in Week one, to

647
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: me is a huge John Red flag up in Seattle.

648
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: Seahawks five and a half point favorites. Give me your

649
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: thoughts on Stafford's wife. You know the stories that they

650
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: try to rework his deal. He got the you know

651
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: what kicked out of him in Detroit, right he last

652
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: year he did.

653
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: He's a weathered, thirty five thirty six year old.

654
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely take away in the Rams Cooper Cup and what

655
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: I just talked.

656
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: About, well, I'm complete. I've been out on the Rams.

657
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be horrendous that. I just don't

658
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: think their roster's any good. They were too top heavy.

659
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: Anytime you got to go see a specialist a week

660
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: before week one and it's not you know, that's what

661
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: pitchers do with their elbow. This is a hamstring that's

662
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: not good. And you know, I don't care. Aaron Donald

663
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: could have twenty five sacks. If no one around him

664
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: can make a tackle, you're in trouble. I don't even

665
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: think the Stafford thing is that weird. I mean there

666
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: is a gigantic gap. I think if you're thirty five

667
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 1: or over and if you're maybe twenty three or younger,

668
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: just technology. A kid has been on the internet from

669
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: the moment he's alive. I remember getting my first cell

670
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: phone in like two thousand and one and it did

671
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: not look like this, So I mean, I do understand

672
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: struggling and listen, we're all guilty of this, and I

673
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: try to find it having your phone in front of you.

674
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: But that generation is on a completely different level. That's

675
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: just how they communicate with everything. I mean, they could

676
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: be sitting across the whole way and be texted with

677
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: the guy. That's how they talk. So I kind of

678
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: thought that was relatable from Stafford, though it's not ideal

679
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: what you want to hear from your star quarterback, who's

680
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: your team captain, that you're paying forty five plus million

681
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: dollars to. I think it's over. I mean, I think

682
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: this the whole run was over. I think they paid

683
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: these guys rightfully, so after they won the Super Bowl,

684
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: they clearly regret it. No team pays guys enormous amounts

685
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: of money and regrets it faster and more quickly than

686
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams if they do this over and

687
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. Usually when you pay

688
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: a guy, first case scenario, maybe there's a bad injury

689
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: or like that sucks, but they when the guy's even playing,

690
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: you're like, God, we regret that one. They've done it

691
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: with like seven different players. It happened with the first

692
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: iteration of their squad Jared Goff, remember McVeigh was out

693
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: on Todd Gurley's knee gave out. Now this group, if

694
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: they could have all these redo they probably would and

695
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: just tank. But Colin, I think they're in major, major trouble.

696
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking at I don't know. I mean,

697
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: I don't think the Caleb sweepstakes is out of the

698
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: realm possibility, at least Drake May. I mean, I think

699
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: they got top five draft written all over him. And

700
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: like you said, Aaron Donald, would some team I don't know,

701
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: like the Steelers just throw out some great teams, Like

702
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: would you just trade your first round pick for him?

703
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: And then if you're the Rams just kind of reset

704
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: it all. I don't think that's out of the realm possibility.

705
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

706
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: And I also think it's interesting because once you get

707
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: the quarterback, now you've got all this cap availability. So

708
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: if you have two firsts, you can get your quarterback

709
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: and your left tackle, and that means they wouldn't have

710
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: to pay Noe Boom in one year, so that frees

711
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: up more stuff. So I think the Rams are gonna

712
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: start out, they're gonna get beat by Seattle, and I

713
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: think it could unravel quickly.

714
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: But the Stafford.

715
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: Comments, I thought, yeah, he's an old weather quarterback. I

716
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: think it's gonna get ugly fast.

717
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: They don't have a two.

718
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: Van Jefferson's a three paid like a two. So they

719
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: really don't have Tyler Higbee's a good tight end. Cam

720
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: Akers solid running back, but no Cooper Cup He's their

721
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: volume receiver. They're gonna be bad on both sides potentially.

722
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is with Stafford, no one's ever talked

723
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: about him like a Rogers or a Russell Wilson where

724
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: there could be a disconnect. People love them. I know

725
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: people that have played with him that swear by the guy.

726
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: He's like a guys guy. Yeah, so this shows you

727
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: that team has a gigantic Grand Canyon level gap of

728
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: this group of all these young guys and then some

729
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: of the older guys who are insanely rich. Now, I

730
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: mean Aaron Donald wentz Al said and Done is gonna

731
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: make two hundred plus million dollars. Stafford's made a ton.

732
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: But I think this is the great year to you.

733
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: Look up, you see Michael Pennox, you see Bo Nicks.

734
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: Even if you don't get Drake may or Caleb I

735
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: think you can end up with the starting quarterback like

736
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: pick six.

737
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: By the way, let's let's wrap it up with this,

738
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: let's go back to college football and talk Caleb Williams

739
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: in USC. So there were some with Caleb Williams. You're

740
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: seeing a lot of scouts. There were multiple scouts at

741
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: the coliseum and scouting directors and scouts watching Caleb. They

742
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: have a receiver Dorian Singer, monheiman offensive lineman, a safety,

743
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: Kaylin Bullock. They've got They've got some NFL guys. Mason

744
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: Cobb did not play a linebacker, but there's their USC's

745
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: got some, you know, half a dozen NFL players.

746
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: One of the things.

747
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: A scout sent me, he said, you know, Lincoln Riley

748
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: has a type. They don't have a lot of size

749
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 2: at wide receiver. They're all twitchy, they're all fast, they're

750
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: all quick. But as I watched Caleb Williams, my takeaway was.

751
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 3: That there's a.

752
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: Weird and I don't know Lincoln Riley cares, but they

753
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: could have taken him out in the second quarter. But

754
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: there is that sense that he is now anil. You're

755
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: marketing him and they don't have a great backup. Miller

756
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: Moss's fine, and I was I was sitting there watching

757
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: this and I'm thinking to myself, their schedule gets really

758
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: hard November, December or November.

759
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you do with Caleb?

760
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: I mean, quarterbacks now are thrown for four or five

761
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: Pennix is throwing four and five touchdown passes bo Nicks.

762
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: How much do you play Caleb Williams? I have argued

763
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: that if they got to the Pac twelve championship game,

764
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: there's no reason to play. If you have to play

765
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: Oregon again or Washington just don't, there's no reason to

766
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: play him.

767
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: Where are you one? How much do you play Caleb

768
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: this year?

769
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: I heard you say there's no conference next year, so

770
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm their offense is remarkable, and he's I mean the

771
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: he's hist number one pick in a while since Trevor Lawrence.

772
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: But I don't really see it yet. And it's early,

773
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: and you know they're playing Nevada, they're playing who they

774
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: San Jose State. The defense. Listen, it's hard to also

775
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: judge Oregon. They won eighty seven million to zero, and

776
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: Washington look fantastic. I do think those teams are a

777
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: little more physical on defense, so not that. Listen, you

778
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: nit pick any top player, but those games Notre Dame

779
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: and obviously Utah, which looks really really physical, But those

780
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: are just fantastic games to feel really really good about.

781
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: When you take the player number one overall, if he

782
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: lights them up and if he just goes on to

783
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: be the first back to back Heisman Trophy winner since

784
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: Archie Griffin, I mean, it doesn't happen very often. He

785
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: clearly I wouldn't say he's in the driver's seat because

786
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: of what happened at Colorado, but he's squarely in the mix.

787
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: To me, he's just judged on I don't know. I mean,

788
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: he's kind of there's no way it feels like he

789
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: can be overtaken. So those games are just I mean,

790
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: Washington had as a big time NFL pass rusher. They

791
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: always have legitimate NFL secondary guys. Dan Lanning is an

792
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: SEC guy. They clearly have horses on defense, and Utah

793
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: always pumps out guys. So I think those games. I

794
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: think USC's gonna lose one of those games, and I

795
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: think potentially too, Like I don't necessarily Colin, it's kind

796
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: of in Lincoln's ethos defensively, like I like my offensive coach,

797
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: like Andy Reid, Kyle Shana and Sean McVay. They value defense.

798
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: I just think Lincoln I just don't see it on

799
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: the body type. So for them to I guess you

800
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: can get there with one loss. But I think this

801
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: conference is really really good. All these teams, especially Oregon

802
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: and Washington, they have NFL quarterbacks. Notre Dame looks excellent.

803
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean they haven't played anybody, but they do. We

804
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: know they have talent. I think it's less about Caleb

805
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: just because his story's already kind of written. Right. He's

806
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: gonna play, He's gonna put up stats. It's what happens

807
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: when their defense has to make plays, like can they

808
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: bail him? Can they help him out? Right? He can?

809
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: He does. He always have to bail them out. And

810
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: that's what it feels like right now when I watch

811
00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: them play.

812
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting. I sat there in the second

813
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: quarter and I kept saying, Okay, just get him out

814
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: of the game, get him out of the game.

815
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

816
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 2: And then I'm thinking, no, No, the Heisman, he's front

817
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: and center. Ultimately, I can't I guess Lincoln Ronnie can't

818
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: think about that. I saw Lee Corso pick USC to

819
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: win the National Championship, and my takeaway is, I do

820
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: think you can win it offensively. I didn't think you

821
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: could win it offensively ten years ago. I do think

822
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: you can win it offensively. But Lincoln Riley's interesting, and

823
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: I think you bring up a really good point is

824
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: that most almost all great offensive coaches value defense. I'm

825
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: not saying Lincoln Riley doesn't, but I do wonder with

826
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: the style of play that USC plays, can you develop

827
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: toughness and a great defense in practice? That's where you

828
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: develop a great defense.

829
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: That was always the knock on chip right, the physicality

830
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: when they got up against the Sea SEC teams when

831
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: he was in Oregon, because you practice ones on once. Right,

832
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: when you go offense defense and you're Kyle Shanahan, what

833
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: do they do? They run the ball down your throat?

834
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: So what are they have? Physical defense? Right? Andy just

835
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: has he just inclined to love physical freaks on defense

836
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: and defensive linement. So it's like same with Sean McVay.

837
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: It's kind of like how they've been taught. It's not

838
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: even that their offense it's more spread, but they like

839
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: the big d linement.

840
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: By the way, Harball loves to run it Michigan's physical

841
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: Stanford got physical, The Niners with him got physical Ryan Day.

842
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: The recruiting by Brian Hartline has been so good for

843
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State at wide receiver. Urban Meyer was on my

844
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: show a month ago and said, you have to get

845
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: the ball to those receivers. What's happened to Ohio State?

846
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: They have not run the ball effectively and consistently.

847
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: They look soft?

848
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 3: Why because at practice you have to get the ball

849
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 3: to Harrison. So it does matter.

850
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: Is Ohio States become a flashier, more perimeter program. It

851
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: has affected physicality and they're punishing running style. And I

852
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: think that Caleb is so spectacular. I'm talking to a

853
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: scout at the USC game. He's like, they have nine

854
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: receivers and tight ends. They can all catch and run.

855
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: You have to showcase that.

856
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: So it's not that they don't run the ball.

857
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: But I do think when you're as gifted as Caleb is,

858
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Speaker 2: or you have as great a receivers as Ohio State does,

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Speaker 2: and you want to exhibit that and that's the strength

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Speaker 2: to your team, it can hurt physicality at practice.

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Speaker 1: I actually think too, from a quarterback standpoint, because Caleb

862
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: has less to really like he can't really earn anything.

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Speaker 1: He's already kind of been anointed, and he keeps backing

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Speaker 1: it up. Is the other quarterbacks that get to play him,

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Speaker 1: just because all the eyeballs will be when Washington plays them,

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Speaker 1: when Oregon plays him, when Hartman at Notre Dame plays them.

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Speaker 1: It's a great opportunity for them to increase their stock

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Speaker 1: because from a scouting perspective, when you watch Manning and

869
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Speaker 1: then Brady comes on the field, and then Manning and Brady,

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Speaker 1: you can see the high level play even though they're

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Speaker 1: not ever on the field at the same time against

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Speaker 1: the each other. I think one of those guys, if

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Speaker 1: not multiple of those guys that play USC are going

874
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Speaker 1: to jolt themselves up because so many people are going

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Speaker 1: to be watching those games from an NFL standpoint.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I took the last ten days off

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Speaker 2: on the East Coast and Rhode Island, and it's fascinating

878
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Speaker 2: because Rhode Island loves its lobster and is really proud

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Speaker 2: of its lobster. So you see lobster art, lobster pants,

880
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: lobster on every menu. There's just lobster logos everywhere. I

881
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: grew up in the Pacific Northwest. You don't see crab

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Speaker 2: art and crab pants. And I was telling my wife,

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Speaker 2: I just I ate lobster every day because I've never

884
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Speaker 2: eaten it, you know, my entire life. But I am

885
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Speaker 2: here to tell you that because fewer NFL team the

886
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: NFL preseason is shorter and fewer starters are playing. It

887
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Speaker 2: was great because some schools have started around the country.

888
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Speaker 2: I'd never taken the last week of August before Labor

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Speaker 2: Day off. Holy shit, that is that's I'm doing that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I'm gonna make it work.

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Speaker 1: It's a life ack.

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Speaker 2: I literally said that is the ten days in America

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Speaker 2: because a lot of people, fourth of July is the

894
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Speaker 2: peak of their summer. And then by the last week

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Speaker 2: of August, you've used all your vacation time at work, John,

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Speaker 2: you want to go check out some lobster and the

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Speaker 2: last week of August I got a place.

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Speaker 3: Now you are welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'll see you there in twenty twenty four, Rhode Island,

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Speaker 1: last week August.

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Speaker 3: All right, buddy, good STUFFE you gone.

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Speaker 1: The volume