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Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of Huddle Up JP Shadwick with

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. John Osier out on vacation this week. We've

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Speaker 1: got a busy show here on this March twentieth, This Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: it's Pro Day season. We'll get to that coming up.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Jaguars were very busy the last week

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Speaker 1: or so in free agency.

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Speaker 2: And a lot to get to Bucky. So here we are.

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Speaker 1: This is the midst of it. Free agency is open,

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Speaker 1: the new league year is here, Pro DA season now,

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Speaker 1: and we are closing in a little over a month

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Speaker 1: away from the draft.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Okay? JP?

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Speaker 4: So I'm kind of new to this, Like I've only

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Speaker 4: been associated with the National.

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Speaker 3: Football League for about twenty years, that's it.

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Speaker 4: And this is the first time that I've ever heard

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Speaker 4: of someone being on vacation in the middle of my

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Speaker 4: free agency in the draft leading up, Like.

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Speaker 3: The league year just popped and here we got Oser's

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Speaker 3: on vacation.

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Speaker 4: Like, hey man, you know that generation, this new generation

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Speaker 4: is a little different, Like.

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Speaker 3: They just take vacation days and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: I just got to figure out what that's about. How

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Speaker 4: do you take vacation the league?

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Speaker 3: You're just started?

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Speaker 1: I will say this though, there's still riding on Jaguars

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Speaker 1: dot com, so he's still contributing to the website, which

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Speaker 1: is you know, it's not disappeared.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's just not on here.

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Speaker 3: I was just saying vacation, Like, who does vacation the league?

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Speaker 3: You're just started. How you gonna have vacation? We just started.

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Speaker 1: We're just getting underway, right, there's a whole year ago.

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Speaker 1: That's why they call it the new league year. So

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Speaker 1: we'll get to Pro Day stuff coming up.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to touch a little bit on some of

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Speaker 1: these free agents the Jaguars have brought in here, of course,

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Speaker 1: and I mean the latest and probably one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest names, Eric Armstead, defensive tackle ten to your Player,

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Speaker 1: the seventeenth overall pick back in twenty fifteen by the Niners,

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Speaker 1: and and of course that team was led by GM

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Speaker 1: Trent Balky and reunited with Bulkey here in Jacksonville. He

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Speaker 1: came back to play the playoffs last year after injury,

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Speaker 1: and in the Super Bowl he had a sack and

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Speaker 1: six tackles, but played through a knee injury pretty much

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Speaker 1: the second half of the season, and Armstead was asked

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Speaker 1: about his health during his press conference.

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Speaker 3: I'm very confident.

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Speaker 5: You know, the past couple of years, you know, I've

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Speaker 5: had some random nagging things going on.

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Speaker 3: You know, football is a is a sport with one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent injury rate.

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Speaker 5: You know, people want to talk about my past two years,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I missed four or five games last year,

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Speaker 5: but I finished the playoffs, I played in the super Bowl,

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Speaker 5: and you know, before you know, kind of these past

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Speaker 5: two years, I hadn't mixed it.

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Speaker 3: I had missed a game in five years. So injuries

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Speaker 3: are a part of sports. You know. I have my

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Speaker 3: plan together.

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Speaker 5: In place to make sure that I'm putting my body

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Speaker 5: and myself in the best position to be out there

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Speaker 5: for my team. And I'm going to do that, and

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Speaker 5: you know, I think it's going to go very well.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I planned to have a long career.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think I got a good five or

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Speaker 5: six more years in me, so I don't plan on

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Speaker 5: stopping anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Bucky Eric Armstead is six foot seven two and ninety pounds,

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Speaker 1: So what will he bring to the table on the defense.

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Speaker 4: I think people need to kind of think about what

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Speaker 4: Kalais Campbell was for the Jaguars. And how he impacted

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Speaker 4: the game and kind of view Eric Armstead in that light.

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Speaker 4: Different players in terms of position, but similar in terms

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Speaker 4: of physicality, length, how they disrupt at the.

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Speaker 3: Point of attack.

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Speaker 4: He is something that the Jaguars desperately needed inside. When

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Speaker 4: we talked about the defense and the defensive struggles last

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Speaker 4: year just didn't get enough output from the interior positions.

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Speaker 4: The defensive tackles didn't create enough splash plays. Look, I

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Speaker 4: did the numbers, and you think about three guys that

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Speaker 3: They compare, They combined for only.

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Speaker 4: Three and a half sacks, seven tackles were lost. That's

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Speaker 4: not an enough disruption on the interior. And so with

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Speaker 4: They'll be kind of a bigger tandem to deal with

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Speaker 4: the pressure off Josh Allen and Trayvon Walker to create

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Speaker 3: So I'm really excited about the move.

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Speaker 4: I think it's definitely a huge upgrade and we think

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Speaker 4: about the championship teams, they are built lily rock solid

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Speaker 4: in the trenches. I think the Jaguars now have a

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Speaker 4: defense that has the potential to be very, very solid

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Speaker 1: I think he's got, you know, three, four or five

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I can't worry about four or five years.

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Speaker 4: and then anything beyond that is gravy. But in the

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Speaker 4: immediate future, he gives them an upgrade over what they had.

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Speaker 4: It also takes some of the pressure off of the

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Speaker 3: Number seventeen to see if they can get a high

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Speaker 4: And I think that's really important. What you want to

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Speaker 4: do is you want to be able to go into

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Speaker 4: best player that is available at pick seventeen. Eric Armstead

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Speaker 4: means that you don't have to necessarily rush it and

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Speaker 3: You now can just hey, I'm gonna take the.

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Speaker 4: Best player, whether it's a D lineman, a dB, a wide.

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Speaker 3: Receiver, wherever that is, and then kind of move forward like.

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Speaker 1: That, Bucky, let's stay in the trenches, but go to

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Speaker 1: the other side now. And the Jaguars added center Mitch Morris,

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Speaker 1: tenth year player from the Buffalo Bills. He was open

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Speaker 1: and visited with Jaggs reporter Kyle Stevens on his first

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Speaker 6: So it's been in a wild ninety six hours. We're

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Speaker 6: talking to my wife. She's been a trouper this whole thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you get released and then you kind of you're able

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Speaker 6: to start ahead of the free agency process, which in

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Speaker 6: And also you need a quarterback in this league to win,

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Speaker 6: and Trevor gives that guy. And so when I had

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Speaker 6: the opportunity to come here and visit, you know, fell

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Speaker 6: some really nice conversations with Trent as well as Phil,

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Speaker 6: and it just worked out and we couldn't be happier.

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Speaker 6: And my wife and I related to bring our kids

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Speaker 1: Jacksonier that's been Morse of course the Jaguars center now

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Speaker 1: and so that all of a sudden, the Jags offensive

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think what you see is the

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Speaker 4: theme is it's about winning right now.

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Speaker 3: Pressures on the team to get over the top. You

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Speaker 4: To be able to really do some damage in the postseason.

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Speaker 4: And the only way you can do that is you

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Speaker 3: It wasn't good enough last year. Too many situations.

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Speaker 4: Where you couldn't convert on third and short, fourth and short.

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Speaker 3: And that is the offensive line, no matter how you

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Speaker 4: On Trevor when it comes to protection calls, but look

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Speaker 4: when you look at the team from left to right,

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Speaker 3: Solid offensive line that can be able to get it done.

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Speaker 4: And if anything, you point to Brandon Sheriff, who has

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Speaker 4: to him as maybe the weak link.

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Speaker 3: On that offensive line.

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Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of teams that would

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Speaker 1: And in the swing spots, theoretically you have guys that

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Speaker 1: Fortner's future is just kind of a swing backup, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, man, I look.

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Speaker 4: I think his future like now, what happened is he

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Speaker 4: likes so many guys who spend most of their life.

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Speaker 3: Kind of backing up and drawing the car about a

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Speaker 3: lengthy career. He has to look and see what happens

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Speaker 3: on Draft Knight.

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Speaker 4: Does another player come in that can be a swing player,

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Speaker 4: I think the one thing that we knew going into

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Speaker 4: next year he was going to have to play better

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Speaker 4: in whatever road that.

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Speaker 3: He was thrust in.

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Speaker 4: He was going to have to improve upon what he's

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Speaker 4: displayed the first two years of his career.

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Speaker 3: He knows it. Everyone knows it. He has to get

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Speaker 3: to work and be a better player.

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Speaker 4: And if he works his tail off and plays at

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Speaker 4: a higher level, then he'll be around and he'll carve

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Speaker 4: out in a nice role for himself where there's a

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Speaker 4: supplant Mitch Morrison is the sword.

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Speaker 1: Shadwick with Bucky Brooks. It's the Huddle Up Podcast. Let's

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Speaker 1: Move down a wide receiver. Gabe Davis, fifth year player,

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick, of the Bills out of Central Florida

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Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty and of course reunited with his

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Speaker 1: old position coach.

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Speaker 2: From Buffalo, Chad Hall.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven career touchdowns three different seasons, now with seven

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Speaker 1: playoff games increase the spotlight for him, especially that Divisional

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Speaker 1: round game after the twenty twenty one season at Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: That was the game that changed the overtime rules. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he had eight catches, two hundred and one yards and

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns in that game, and he earlier discussed the

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Speaker 2: What does he need to show? What does he need

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Speaker 1: thing up off season process in the NFL, now, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the pre draft thing where you

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Speaker 1: hype and hype and hype, and then the draft happens

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Speaker 1: and everything is expected from these guys, all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden they may not live.

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Speaker 3: Up to it. Yeah. No, look, look I'll take some

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Speaker 3: of the blame. We do. We do a great job

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Speaker 3: of selling the TV show that is the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Draft, So we talk about these guys at nauseam. We

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Speaker 4: look at a college game and we hear people are

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Speaker 4: fixing first round grades to people. We don't even know

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Speaker 4: who's gonna be in the draft yet, but we've talked

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Speaker 4: about these guys and we celebrate them. And you know,

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Speaker 4: there's something that the league is going to have to

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Speaker 4: look at. Either we have an evaluation problem or we

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Speaker 4: have a developmental problem. Why can't we evaluate the quarterback position?

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Speaker 4: And when we do select a quarterback, why.

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Speaker 3: Can't we develop them where they play close to the

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Speaker 3: expectation that.

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Speaker 4: We put on them when they're coming out. There's something

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Speaker 4: to that. And I'll say this, and I think there's

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Speaker 4: a tip of a cap to Doug Peterson. A lot

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Speaker 4: of coaches have to have more flexibility and adaptability when

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Speaker 4: it comes to dealing with the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: That high school in the college are producing.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to be like yester year's quarterback where

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Speaker 4: they can control the game from.

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Speaker 3: A lot of scrimmage, and they have all of these things.

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Speaker 4: It's a little more subjective because everyone is in the

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Speaker 4: spread offense. So as a coach, what do you have

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Speaker 4: in your bag to maximize the talents that the quarterback

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Speaker 4: brings to the table while minimizing his flaws.

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Speaker 3: I think it's more of a coach issue than a

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Speaker 3: player issue. Everyone in the league has.

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Speaker 4: To kind of re evaluate how they're developing and managing

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks and see if they can come up with a

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Speaker 4: plan that allows them to be at their best.

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Speaker 1: All right, so Pro Day season Southern California, I think

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Speaker 1: Ohio State is Wednesday as well. Though the wide receivers

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Speaker 1: not work, not running the forty, they might do some things.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what else is coming up this week in

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Speaker 1: Pro day Land.

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Speaker 3: Who no, I mean, that's the major thing.

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Speaker 4: But like we can talk about all these skill guys

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Speaker 4: and Marvin Harrison Junior and all the wide receivers that

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Speaker 4: everyone is excited about. But you know, even though the

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Speaker 4: Jaguars don't need a quarterback, the league is talking about

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks and what's going on, and so talk about Kayla

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Speaker 4: Williams this week. Jayden Daniels, Drake May next week at

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Speaker 4: some point we see JJ McCarthy go and do we

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Speaker 4: have four guys that are worthy of going in the

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Speaker 4: top five? Do we have another quarterback that stinks into

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Speaker 4: the first round like Michael Pennant's or Bo Nicks those

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Speaker 4: other conversations.

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Speaker 3: The pro day workout won't make a break whether.

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Speaker 4: Those guys become first round on this, but they certainly

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Speaker 4: would give us enough conversation.

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Speaker 3: They give us the buzz where we talked about those

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Speaker 3: guys being worthy of consideration in the first round.

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Speaker 2: All right, Bucky Brooks, j P.

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Speaker 1: Shadwick, it's a huddle up final couple moments with here,

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Speaker 1: and you touched on this earlier. You know, with some

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Speaker 1: of these free agent signings, you said that the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are more poised now to be able to pick a

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Speaker 1: best available type of player at seventeen overall, So how

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Speaker 1: about this scenario for you? Are you are you still

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Speaker 1: leaning towards a cornerback no matter what there or hey,

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Speaker 1: let's say Georgia tight end brock Powers is available at

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Speaker 1: seventeen and he's the best guy on your board? Are

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Speaker 1: you taking another tight end? Is that truly the best available.

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Speaker 3: Look at you. I mean, look at what you're doing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking about the home of what used

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Speaker 4: to be known as the world's largest cocktail party.

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Speaker 3: You talk about bringing someone who has been revered in

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Speaker 3: that area to be able to bring him put him

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Speaker 3: in that thing, and you know, I mean, we're not

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Speaker 3: even talking about tickets. Were just talking about a dynamic player.

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Speaker 4: Look, brock Barers would be a great addition given what

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Speaker 4: Doug Peterson has done. But can we take a tight

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Speaker 4: end in the first round after taking one last year

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Speaker 4: in the second round that we didn't really get on

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Speaker 4: the field.

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Speaker 2: Right and right.

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Speaker 1: But if you're truly best available and he's the best

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Speaker 1: guy on your board.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you gotta have that conversation.

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Speaker 4: But typically what happens in these things when you get

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Speaker 4: to your board and best player available, it tends to

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Speaker 4: align with the best player available just so happens to

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Speaker 4: fit the biggest need.

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Speaker 3: I would think that. I think cornerback.

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Speaker 4: I think multiple cornerbacks are going to be in played

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Speaker 4: this year early in the draft, given the new system

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Speaker 4: that's coming in Ryan Nelson coming at they.

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Speaker 3: Want to play more man to man. I think Ron

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Speaker 3: Darby let the cat out in the bag. Hey, I'm

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Speaker 3: a Manda Man corner.

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Speaker 4: I want to go somewhere where I can play Manda Man.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, I guess we're about to be a lot

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Speaker 4: of Manda Man. Well, if that's the case, you need

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Speaker 4: to make sure that you have a lot of guys

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Speaker 4: because not only does Manda Man require a different skill.

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Speaker 3: Set, it requires depth because that is a lot of

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Speaker 3: running across the field. You got to make sure that

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Speaker 3: you're really good in that area.

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Speaker 4: I would look for the Jaguars to heavily scout the

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Speaker 4: position in the.

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Speaker 3: First round and also come back later.

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Speaker 4: And see if you get another player that you can

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Speaker 4: add to the mix, because you got to have someone

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Speaker 4: not only behind Ronald Dark, but you need to have

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Speaker 4: someone as insurance for Tyson Campbell.

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Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that you.

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Speaker 4: Have enough players that can go nose to nose and

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Speaker 4: play the style that they want to play.

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Speaker 1: You still have to draft that second guy relatively high, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean you can't. The Jacks have had all eight round,

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Speaker 1: six seventh round corners that are deep guys.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have a guy that can play.

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Speaker 3: And this is a great draft to go and get corners.

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Speaker 3: This a great draft to go and find those guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I want to go high.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to mess around. I'm not looking like

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Speaker 4: bargain basement shopping. I want to make sure that you

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Speaker 4: get someone that can play, and in the first three

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Speaker 4: rounds you can find guys.

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Speaker 3: That can play.

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Speaker 4: Also, you got to figure out what are you doing

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Speaker 4: with Antonio Johnson in terms of what role is he

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Speaker 4: going to play. He can be that star position, which

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Speaker 4: is really called that nickel defender, but there're gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Times where that nickel defender needs to be a true coverman.

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Speaker 3: Do you go and.

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Speaker 4: Find another cover corner that can play in nickel like

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Speaker 4: the little kid.

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Speaker 3: From Michigan Sanstril.

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Speaker 4: Do you go and get a Max Milton from ro

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Speaker 4: those things like, There's some intriguing.

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Speaker 3: Names that could kind of be floated around. But it's

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Speaker 3: a great draft for cornerback, so I'm excited to see

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Speaker 3: how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: All right, corners for Bucky, it seems to be somewhat

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Speaker 1: of a consensus wide receivers creeping back in there too,

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Speaker 1: but we'll see what happens. We've got about a month

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Speaker 1: to discuss. Bucky enjoy the Pro day week and Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams performance on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: We'll look forward to your analysis.

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Speaker 3: So man, it should be fun. Man, looking forward to.

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Speaker 2: Always going to see you.

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Speaker 1: That's Bucky Brooks, JP Shadwick or thanks to Joe Fortunado

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Speaker 1: and Brent Reaver. Coming up Tag Wars Happy Hour Radio

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Speaker 1: tomorrow four o'clock. Kai Stevens in again this week with

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Speaker 1: Jeff Logoman. The league meetings are next week twenty four

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Speaker 1: through twenty seventh, the offseason program April fifteenth, and then

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Speaker 1: the draft of course in late April.

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Speaker 2: That will do it for this week's edition of Huddle

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Speaker 2: Up