1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Day Baker podcast. Good morning, It's Wednesday, 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: the twenty sixth of November. I'm Caroline Hepget in London. 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Coming up today, Chancellor Rachel Reeves prepares to deliver her 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 2: long trailed budget in what could be a day of 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: reckoning for the government. Exclusive Bloomberg reporting reveals the US 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: Presidential ENVOYE Steve Whitkoff advised Russia on how to pitch 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 2: the Ukraine peace plan to President Trump. Plus casting a 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: wide net after gold and diamonds, Moscow turns its attention 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: to Africa's trove of fish. Let's start with a roundup 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: of our top stories. Rachel Reeves will set out her 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: budget later today as she tries to win over her party, 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: the public and the markets. Britain's Chancellor is widely expected 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: to set out a range of tax hikes to fill 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: a thirty billion power on fiscal whole, a year after 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: raising levies and promising that she wouldn't come back for more. 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: Pimco senior advisor Rupert Harrison told Bloomberg Radio this long 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: list of taxes comes with risks. 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: They were easy predictable cost free tax rises sort of 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: sitting around. They would have been picked up by previous chancellors. 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: And also the predictability of the revenues is less, so 22 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: I think we've already seen that, for example, some of 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: the measures around non domiciles and the ending of the 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: non don regime in the UK. I think there are 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: still big question marks about whether that has raised the 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: revenues that were predicted. 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: Rupert Harrison speaking there, who helped to draft George Osborne's 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: twenty twelve Omni Shamble's budget and see some similarities to 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: this year. Elusive economic growth has helped make Rachel Reeves 30 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: the most unpopular chancellor since polling began, with guilds also 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: hitting multi decade highs. Reeves is hoping markets will reward 32 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: her budget with a decline in government borrowing costs, but 33 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: investors have been hedging to protect against currency volatility. 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: Now. 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: Reform UK's leader Nigel Farahs has rejected claims that he 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: made of racist comments as a teenager, after an investigation 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: rocked his attempts to paint Reform UK as a moderate party. 38 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: Several of the popular politician's classmates have accused him of racism, 39 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: bullying and anti Semitic abuse when he attended Dullage College 40 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: forty nine years ago. Journalists asked Farage about the claims 41 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: that a Reform rally in Wales. 42 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 5: Can I remember everything that happler school now? I can't. 43 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: Have I ever been part of an extremist organization or 44 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: engage in direct, unpleasant personal abuse, genuine abuse on that basis. 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 5: No, Nigel Farage. 46 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: Their Reform UK are the most popular political party in 47 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: Britain as Pole stands, with Faraj being talked about as 48 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: a potential next Prime Minister of the UK. Bluemaker has 49 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: learned that US Presidential ENVOYE. Steve Whitkoff held a phone 50 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: call last month with a senior Kremlin official to suggest 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: they worked together on a piece plan for Ukraine similar 52 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: to Gaza, and that Vladimir Putin should raise it with 53 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. In an October fourteenth phone call that lasted 54 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: a little over five minutes, Witkoff advised Yuri Ushikov, Putin's 55 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: top foreign policy aid, on how the Russian leader should 56 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: broach the issue with President Trump. His guidance included suggestions 57 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: on setting up a Trump Putin call before Vladimir Zelinski's 58 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: White House visit later that week, and using the Garza 59 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: agreement as a way in, and, according to transcripts obtained 60 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: by Bloomberg News, Witkoff advised Russia on how to bring 61 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: up the topic with President Trump. Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. However, asked 63 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: about Witkoff's approach while on Air Force One, President Trump 64 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: said he hadn't reviewed the call, but that he heard 65 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: it was a standard negotiation. 66 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 5: He's going to sell this to Ukraine. It's going to 67 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 5: show Ukraine to Russia. 68 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: This. 69 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 5: That's what a deal maker does. You've got to say, Look, 70 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 5: they want this. 71 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: You've got to convince him with this. 72 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 5: And I would imagine he's saying the same thing to Ukraine, 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 5: because each party has to give it to. 74 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: President Trump added that his Special envoice Steve Whitkoff, will 75 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: meet with the Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, likely 76 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: next week. In a separate social media post on Tuesday, 77 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: President Trump wrote that there are only a few remaining 78 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: points of disagreement, with tremendous progress, in his words, made 79 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: over agreeing a deal to end Russia's war with Ukraine. Now, 80 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: White House National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett has emerged 81 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: as the front runner to be the next Federal Reserve chair. 82 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: Bloomberg understands that the economists would be a close ally 83 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: to President Trump and implement his approach to interest rate 84 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: cutting were he to lead the central Bank. Speaking on 85 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: Fox New US, Hassett said he would accept the position. 86 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: If you were to ask me to be fed cher, 87 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: then of course I would have to say yes, because. 88 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 4: I want to serve my country and I want to 89 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: serve my president. 90 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 5: But you know, we'll see how it goes. There are 91 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 5: a lot of. 92 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: Great candidates, Kevin hasse speaking their US Treasury Secretary Scott 93 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: Best centers on the selection process interviewing candidates to replace Powell. 94 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: In a statement, White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said, quote, 95 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: nobody knows who the President will choose. The FED pick 96 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: will also need to be confirmed by the Senate. Treasuries 97 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: rallied pushing the ten year yield below four percent for 98 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: the first time in a month on news that Hassett 99 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: is a favorite for the post. And lastly, Apple is 100 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: said to take back its crown as the world's largest 101 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: smartphone maker. That's after the latest iPhone release inspired a 102 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: spate of upgrades. Please make semer add A Bio has 103 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: more Now. 104 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 6: For the first time in more than a decade, Apple 105 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 6: is pointsed to once again become the world's number one 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 6: phone seller. That's according to technology analysis firm Counterpoint Research, 107 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 6: who say the company is benefiting from calling US China 108 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 6: trade relations and a depreciating dollar. Their figures show Apple 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 6: surpassing long time rival Samsung sales growth by more than 110 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 6: five percent this year. The tech giants said last month 111 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 6: that sales are growing faster than anticipated, with the holiday 112 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 6: quarter poised to approach a record one hundred and forty 113 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 6: billion dollars in revenue. In London, Tea A Dubaio, Bloomberg Radio. 114 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: Those are our top stories for you in the market. 115 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: Some momentum back in global equity markets. We are by 116 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 2: three tens of one percent of your country World Index. 117 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: Asia stocks also rising for a third day. There are 118 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: more bets now on a December Fed rate cut, USN 119 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: European stock futures of art. We also had European stocks 120 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: gaining yesterday. Deutsche Bank now putting a price target S 121 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: and P five hundred to each eight thousand by the 122 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty six. Treasury yields this morning trading 123 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: at for spot zero one, so actually just above the 124 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: four percent mark, up one and a half basis points. 125 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: Right now, we have a weaker dollar and the pound 126 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: is strengthening. Ahead of the budget, We're going to bring 127 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: you more news on the UK Chancellor's second ever budget 128 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: in a moment, and also why Russia has said it 129 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: cites on fishing off the coast of Africa. But before 130 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: we get to those stories, there's always something that catches 131 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: my eye, and today is recipe writers who say that 132 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: AI generated recipe slop is ruining cooking advice online. All 133 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 2: of this ahead of Thanksgiving, ahead of the festive period 134 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: where no doubt you'll all be searching for your best recipes. 135 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: Apparently AI can generate summaries that distort the basics, according 136 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: to these recipe writers of their creations. For example, the 137 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: Easypas foodie writer, she says that her tried and tested 138 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: recipes are being garbled. Bloomberg's at daved Albert and Carmen 139 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: are Royo writing really quite heartbreakingly about recipe writers who 140 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: say that they're vetted recipes are either being hidden by 141 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: the flood of AI, or the AI generated replicas of 142 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: their recipes are appearing online, or even that their images 143 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: are being altered into AI fodder. All of this the 144 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: first ever holiday season where consumers are starting to trust 145 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: it seems the AI answers that they look at when 146 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: it comes to recipes. Anyway, that was a story of 147 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: note for me. Right, let's get into the more serious topics, 148 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: shall we. 149 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 5: Today? 150 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: Chancellor hel Reeves is due to deliver what she has 151 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: said will be a fair budget. It's likely to be 152 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: a contentious package of tax increases and spending restraint to 153 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: close a fiscal hole of as much as thirty billion 154 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: pounds after a period of intense speculation. Will it reassure 155 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: markets that the government won't be back in the same 156 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: straits next year. Joining me in now as Bloomberg UK 157 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: Politics reporter James Walcock for more. 158 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 5: Good morning, James. 159 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: What is Reeve's expected to announce at lunchtime today? 160 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 7: I've been inspired by your recipe chat Caroline, so I'll 161 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 7: tell you. If you do twelve months of policy U 162 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 7: turns and an economic downgrade and bake it, you get 163 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 7: a raft of tax rises. We reported yesterday in two 164 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 7: big bloomberg scoops. On one hand, there's going to be 165 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 7: a tourist tax that local mayors will levy. On the 166 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 7: other hand, a bank tax is off the table. And 167 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 7: this adds to this big picture of the biggest levers 168 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 7: which we thought a few weeks ago were in contention. 169 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 7: The likes of income tax, vaight nationlod shows have been 170 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 7: ruled out. This was a big bloomboak scoop in two 171 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 7: weeks ago that actually the economic forecasts have improved and 172 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 7: we'll find that out so when the cherrou stands up 173 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 7: later today. But the thinking now is that we're going 174 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 7: to get a range of other taxes. I mean the 175 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 7: runners and riders are a mansion tax, attax and high 176 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 7: value homes, a limit on how much you can put 177 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 7: in your pension tax free syntaxes, the likes of gambling, alcohol, 178 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 7: taxes on evs, electric vehicles as more people move to 179 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 7: using greener transport, and a but to the amount of 180 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 7: cash you can put in your cash ier versus the stocks. 181 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 5: And shares ISA. 182 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 7: These are all some of the runners and riders, and 183 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 7: they are by no means all. We are expecting quite 184 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 7: a lot of quite punitive measures. Here is worth saying 185 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 7: the past few weeks have been dogged by tax speculation, Caroline. 186 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 7: But we will also hear two things that I think 187 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 7: it's worth paying attention to in the budget later today. 188 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 7: The economic forecasts of how the government and the OBR, 189 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 7: the independent watchdog, think the economy is doing. And a 190 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 7: political narrative. The budget is the moment the Chancellor, as 191 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 7: the most senior economic figure in the government, pulls together 192 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 7: a narrative of how the government is doing and what 193 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 7: it sees its economic future acts. And the past twelve 194 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 7: months have been undeniably bruising for Rachel Reeves. She has 195 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 7: made big bets that last year was the last time 196 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 7: she would be putting up taxes. She is now coming 197 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 7: back and bected to be doing the same, and I 198 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 7: will genuinely be quite curious to see how she ties 199 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 7: that together in a narrative of what this labor government 200 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 7: is achieving. 201 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: The budget comes alongside the OBR forecast, as you say, 202 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: how important is that going to. 203 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,359 Speaker 7: Be even more than usual? And they have become potemic 204 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 7: because now each chancellor has given themselves such limited headroom, 205 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 7: Reeves being most of all that the obr's decree on 206 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 7: how the economy is looking has now managed to catch 207 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 7: out many previous chancellors because we are expecting so many 208 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 7: small I says small. I'm talking two to four billion 209 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 7: pounds worth of taxes to go up. How the OBR 210 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 7: scores all of those will be crucial to how the 211 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 7: markets react, and so we will all be paying quite 212 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 7: close attention to what the OBR say both when the 213 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 7: chancel sits down, they publish their technical documents balls at 214 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 7: their press conference later today as well. 215 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: And the reaction to the budget is something we'll be 216 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: watching closely. Lots of risks, any rewards. 217 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 7: I think survival is a good reward at this point 218 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 7: for the Chancellor. She is in a trap of her 219 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 7: own making. As the Bloom mixtorial this morning puts out, 220 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 7: she's trying to keep on side the public which has 221 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 7: seen a massive polling drop, the markets with guilts that 222 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 7: are multi decade high, and labor MPs where in the 223 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 7: past three weeks we have seen nearly open speculation about 224 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 7: replacing the Prime Minister Keir Starmer. So those are the 225 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 7: three crucial constituencies to keep this labor government on the road, 226 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 7: and there are warning lights in all of them, so 227 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 7: she faces a pretty impossible job going into this. However, 228 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 7: she is still one of the most powerful partians in 229 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 7: the land, with a unheard of majority in Parliament and 230 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 7: an ability to make political weather. In this moment, I 231 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 7: think this is the test of whether she can actually 232 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 7: achieve that and keep the ship on the road mode 233 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 7: and bring back economic growth to Britain, a country that 234 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 7: has clearly wanted change in this election last year. The 235 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 7: chance of rictuer Ease now has to show that she 236 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 7: can deliver. 237 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've already heard from quite a number of constituencies 238 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: who are concerned, particularly business. It is rare to see 239 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: the number of business voices that we have seen concerned 240 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: about what is going to be in the budget. You know, 241 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: the CBI, the Confederation of British Industry, the British Chambers 242 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: of Commerce, the hospitality sector, the motor manufacturing sector. They're 243 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: all deeply concerned about what is going to be in 244 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: the budget today. 245 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 7: There are two problems said that there is no easy 246 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 7: way to put up taxes, but if you're going to 247 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 7: do it a large measure that affects everyone is a 248 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 7: much more enforceable and much more easily measured way that 249 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 7: clearly was the thinking. A few weeks out when the 250 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 7: Chancellor got up in public on breakfast and gave a 251 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 7: speech saying there were tough choices to come. There was 252 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 7: then a massive sort of scandal, effectively a few weeks 253 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 7: back when it leaked that that was now off the 254 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 7: cards and we're seeing a series of smaller measures. The 255 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 7: business reaction throughout this process has been if you're coming 256 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 7: for a series of smaller measures, you're going to upset 257 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 7: small segments of the business community, and we are all 258 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 7: going to say that this will hit us uniquely and 259 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 7: will set back growth and will affect our hiring. And 260 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 7: they have also said that last year you promised us 261 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 7: at the CBI's annual conference. I say you, I mean 262 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 7: chance for Rachel reeves that she would not put up 263 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 7: taxes on business again. And so they regard this as 264 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 7: broken promises, and some of them also regard it as 265 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 7: bad economics. Whether they are right, the question for the 266 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 7: chanswer is politically, could she have survived breaking what would 267 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 7: have been a manifesto election pledge? And this is why 268 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 7: I come back to this idea that there are no 269 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 7: easy choices in this budget, but will the difficult medicine 270 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 7: lead to a better economic future for the country and 271 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 7: this government. That is the question that it's going to 272 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 7: take us more than one day to answer. 273 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, James, thank you so much for being with me. 274 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: That is Bloomberg's UK Politics reporter James Wilcock, thank you. 275 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 5: Stay with us. 276 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: More from Bloomberg daybakeup coming up after this now sanctions hit, 277 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: Russia has stepped up its courting of African governments with 278 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: offers of military cooperation, weapons, grain, fertilizers, and that has 279 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: extended to phishing and data on fish stocks. Joining us 280 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: now as senior reporter and Yesca Dsuza in charge of 281 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Business of Food weekly newsletter and Yesca good to 282 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: speak to you on this in depth bit of Bloomberg 283 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: reporting about the quote Great African Expedition. This is a 284 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: Russian project that's taken a few years to map out 285 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: Africa's fish resources. 286 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 5: What exactly they been doing? 287 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 4: Good morning, Thanks very much for having me so. Great 288 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: African Expedition is a project sanctioned by President Vladimir Puttin 289 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: to help his African allies map out their fish resources. 290 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: Fish is a very very important element of many of 291 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: those countries' economies. It's pretty much a strategic act for them. 292 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 4: The data is but at the same time they do 293 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 4: not have resources to monitor those stocks on a regular basis, 294 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: and they need them in order to manage their resources. 295 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 5: So Russia offered to help. 296 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: It's an example of so called scientific diplomacy, something we 297 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: saw during the Cold War and Russia is reviving it 298 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: in a way. 299 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: So then why is Russia interested in fisheries in African 300 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: and then kind of cooperation in this area of part 301 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: of a diplomatic purs So in West Africa's also seen 302 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 2: a great deal of overfishing, of illegal fishing off the 303 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: coast of those countries. 304 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. On the one hand, as they said, 305 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 4: it's a soft power tool. But at the same time, 306 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: Russia hasn't hidden the fact and it has been pretty 307 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 4: open about it that they hope to extend cooperation in 308 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 4: this area. They hope to actually obtain agreements concessions from 309 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: those countries in order to fish in those waters. So 310 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 4: you know, on the one hand they are assisting, but 311 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: at the same time they would like to take advantage 312 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: of some of those resources. Yeah, it's also something that 313 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 4: you know, Russia has been you know, it's one of 314 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 4: the biggest seafood exporters. It is a source of expert revenue, 315 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: source of heart currency. So if they and search for 316 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 4: new areas to fish, that can definitely help them at 317 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: the time when sanctions are still in place. 318 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: And there's been a huge global search, hasn't there in 319 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 2: terms of demand for fish products and you know for 320 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: consumers around the world the consequences though for these African nations, 321 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: what have you and the team been reporting on there? 322 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 4: Yes, indeed it's a very very sensitive location, especially the 323 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: West African region. 324 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 5: Resources there. 325 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: You know, it's still a very very diverse area in 326 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 4: terms of fish species, but at the same time it's 327 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: not a very well policed place. There are no resources 328 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 4: to actually go in the sea and catch illegal. 329 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 5: Unregulated fishing. 330 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 4: So that area has been the epicenter of illegal, unreported, 331 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: unregulated fishing, costing these countries billions of dollars in lost 332 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: revenue and at the same time, you know, the presence 333 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 4: of international trollers because essentially it has been a magnet 334 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 4: for so many countries to fish in those waters that 335 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 4: had consequences and resulted in depleted waters, and that you know, 336 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: with a result that the prices have gone up, it 337 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 4: has affected local food security, and it has affected local employment. 338 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 339 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 340 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, Spotify, 341 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 342 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 343 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 344 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station, is also available on your 345 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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