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Twenty nine year old 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Maria Jamenez Rodriguez was last seen on tex Arcana Street 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: in Northeast Houston Thursday morning, and today Cruiz from Texas 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Equisearch started their efforts to find her until she dropped 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: her three year old off of the babysitter's house across 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: the street and then disappeared. Her family says that's out 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: of character, the same with her not showing up for 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: work on Thursday. Only clue so far is Maria's vehicle 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: that was found early Friday morning. Texas Equistarch volunteers began 18 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: their frantic search on flips and on wheels We've gathered 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: here to search for my sister, wishing. I'm hoping that 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: she is found alive and will and just to come home. 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: A beautiful young twenty nine year old mom seemingly drops 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: off the face of the earth. Where is Maria? I mean, 23 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: see Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being 24 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: with us. The search is going on right now for 25 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: the twenty nine year old mom, and he's joining me 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: her sister, Gloria leading the search. A man who has 27 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: dedicated his life to finding the missing. Tim Miller with 28 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: equa sarch forensics expert Karen Smith, forensics psychiatrist Dr Daniel Bober, 29 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: renowned criminal defense attorney in multiple jurisdictions, Jason Oceans and 30 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com reporter Lee Egan as always with me, 31 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: Alan Duke and Jackie Howard here in the studio. A 32 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: search has launched, including in the last hours, over seventy 33 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Equisearch all volunteers scouring northeast Houston, where Maria's truck was 34 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: found in the early morning hours, but no trace of Maria. 35 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Straight out, First to Tim Miller, the leader of Equasearch, Tim, 36 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: how did you get called in on the case of 37 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: missing Maria Imenez? Well, actually, Houston Police Department called me 38 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: early Saturday morning and Simpliciel has always done a case 39 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: shore that would like you to kind of take a 40 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: look at When I went up and I actually called Gloria, 41 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: went up and met where they're got all the details 42 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: of the of the disappearance r sister's disappearance, and it 43 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: was pretty obvious early on that something has happened. Hold on, 44 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: I want to follow on that with you, Tim Miller, 45 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Tim Miller, leader of Equassearch, saying it was very obvious 46 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: something was wrong, and I agree. Maria last seen early 47 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: in the morning at eight a m. When, like so 48 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: many of us, she leaves home for the law firm 49 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: where she works as a pair illegal. On her way 50 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: to the law form law from she drops off for 51 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: a three year old little girl at the next door 52 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: neighbor's house, then came home to get her gem bag 53 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: and a purse. You know, she sounds very orderly and 54 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: methodical to me. Joining me also in addition to Equaseurch 55 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: leader Tim Miller, is Maria's sister, Gloria. Gloria, thank you 56 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: for being with us. It's my understanding your sister has 57 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: never disappeared before. She has never disappeared before. Where this 58 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: is the first time this has happened. You know, I'm 59 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: thinking through Gloria. I'm thinking through her being such an 60 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: organized person when you're juggling a demanding job like working 61 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: at a law firm, and you're taking care of your 62 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: three year old little girl at the same time, dropping 63 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: her off on time, circling back to the house to 64 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: get a gem bag and all of her things to 65 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: take to work. Let me ask you this, Gloria, do 66 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: we know that she ever made it out of the house. Yeah, 67 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: she did. Why do you know that? Because the vehicle 68 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: was not here. She left, She got on her vehicle, 69 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: she closed her gates from her house, and she left. 70 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: How do you know it was her riding the car, 71 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: driving the vehicle. I am not a hundred percent sure 72 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: that that was her. But is there anybody in the 73 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: home Gloria saw her leave that morning with her gem 74 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: bag and okay, great, who saw her? My brother? Okay, 75 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: your brother is there? Okay, I understand. So Maria definitely 76 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: was spotted. I mean, I'm just trying to create a timeline, 77 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: is where I'm going with this with me Maria's sister, 78 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: Gloria tim Miller, Karen Smith, Daniel Boberg, Jason Oceans, and 79 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Lee Egan Gloria back to you again. I'm trying to 80 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: just establish that timeline so we know their eyes on 81 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: Maria when she comes back to the home to get 82 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: her gem bag and her pocketbook, she leaves for work. 83 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: That's around eight a m. Is that correct? That is correct? 84 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: Did she speak to anybody from the car en route 85 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: to work? I don't know the only thing I do 86 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: know is at eight thirty is my brother text her 87 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: to tell her regarding a pack of um there were 88 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: It's just a random of text that they would speak 89 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: to each other. I think he needed to pick up 90 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: a package from the postal or he needed to drop 91 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: off I'm not sure which one, but um he did 92 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: text her, and um she texts back seeing I think 93 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: the postal off was wasn't open at that time yet. Okay, 94 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: so that I don't I'm not concerned right now about 95 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: the intricacies of that text. And I'll tell you why. 96 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: The reason I'm not concerned about it. To Jason Ocean's 97 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney, you know the deal. I know who's 98 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: texting back and forth. I know she's getting a text 99 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: from her brother, and she's riding back because she understands 100 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Jason Ocean the context of what he's saying. If somebody 101 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: had her phone Jason at that time, but they wouldn't 102 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: be able to respond coherently, they would either not respond 103 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: or just put okay or something like that. So I 104 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: know she's alive at that time, right, because she's texting 105 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: coherently in the conversation back to them coherently, and she's saying, 106 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: ups isn't open yet? Alright, fine? So I also believe 107 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: she gets to work Gloria with me, Maria's sister Gloria. 108 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 1: Are their eyes on her at work? Is she's seen 109 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: at work that day? Oh? There you go, because listen 110 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: to this, listen to this. I know this. I know. 111 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: She leaves the house to drive to the office. Then 112 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: she texts a coworker saying she would be late. That 113 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: didn't raise any flags at first, okay. Then later the 114 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: same coworker receives a text saying that Maria was headed 115 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: back to the neighbor to pick up her daughter because 116 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: the daughter wasn't feeling well. Did that really come from Maria? Gloria? 117 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: Is the three was the three year old girl really sick. No, 118 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: not that day. There there it is right there to 119 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Karen Smith, forensics expert. Karen, right there, that is the 120 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: beginning of timeline in my mind. And it also tells me, 121 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: Karen Smith, whoever did this may very well know her 122 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: because they knew a coworker to contact to say I'm 123 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: gonna be late, and then a co worker to contact 124 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: to say I gotta go pick up my daughter. Somebody 125 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: that knows she has a daughter, or body just looking 126 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: at her cell phone, Karen Smith, like my screen servers, 127 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: the twins, my my two ten year old twins, somebody 128 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: would probably know those are my children if they looked 129 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: at the pictures that say, all the pictures that I take, 130 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: all the time of us together. So what can you 131 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: tell me? You're the forensics expert about what we know 132 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: so far? For those of you just joined us, a 133 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: twenty nine year old woman is missing now with me, 134 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: her sister Gloria and the leader of the search, Tim 135 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: Miller with Equasearch. Karen Smith, forensics expert, way in, Well, 136 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: as you know, we are well beyond the critical forty 137 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: eight hour window. Um, this is going to be dependent 138 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: on some victimology that the police are going to have 139 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: to do. And that cell phone is it's such a 140 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: critical piece of evidence. And you're right, Uh, if if 141 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: this does turn out to be some type of foul play, 142 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be someone she knows and knows her well, 143 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: knows her habits. This does not feel like a crime 144 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: of opportunity. This this reads like a planned thing. And 145 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, maybe she was possibly followed her stalks. Police 146 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: are going to have to dig into her personal history 147 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: to find out, Um, who Maria was associating with our 148 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: possibly dating or meeting her co workers, her acquaintances. Um, 149 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: was she using a dating site? UM? Had she revealed 150 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: details about herself online? Possibly? Um? These are things that 151 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: are going to be critical. And on the thing about 152 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: the cell phone, I want to talk about these mobile 153 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: positioning systems, triangulation and other ways they can find out 154 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: where that cell phone was at a point in time, 155 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: at least down to a small area. And that is 156 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: going to be critical in this case. And does it 157 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: follow her pattern to work. We're creatures of habit. We 158 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: we follow pathways and stop at the same place as 159 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: all the time. Was the location of where her truck 160 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: was found on her routine path to work. Um, if 161 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't, now there may maybe Okay, so there may 162 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: be some forensic importance to that truck, maybe some fingerprints 163 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: or for in DNA, some trace evidence such as hairs 164 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: or fibers. If a person got in it um or 165 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: touched the doors, or touched any of the components inside, 166 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: those are going to be critical forensic pieces of evidence. 167 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: I got a couple of questions following up on Kieren Smith, 168 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: forensics expert joining me. Let's go to Maria's sister, Gloria. 169 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Gloria again, thank you for being with us, guys, those 170 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: of you listening. The time is now to help find 171 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: this missing mom just twenty nine years old. Gloria, I 172 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: want to circle back to your brother. Did anyone beside 173 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: your brother see her or talk to her after she 174 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,359 Speaker 1: left the house? No? And the text to him regarding 175 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: the package. What was her text back to him when 176 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: he asked about her picking up the package? It was 177 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: just saying that, um, they didn't open early. Well is 178 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: that true? Is the you because they're open at eight am? Yes, 179 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: but not that early. M I think that would be 180 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: a response of her. Okay, but you've confirmed the ups 181 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: was not open at that time, that is correct. Has 182 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: the home been searched Gloria for any foul play within 183 00:11:53,960 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: the home? Yeah? Okay? Was anything else found in her rock? 184 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: Anything like her pocketbook, her cell phone, her jim bag, 185 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: anything like that jim bag is in the truck. The 186 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: things that are missing are her purse, her cell phone, 187 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: and the actual key to tell Miller, the founder of Equasarch, 188 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: who has managed to get nearly a hundred people they're 189 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: volunteers looking for Maria tim Do you know whether or 190 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: not the police have tried to paying the phone to 191 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: find out it's whereabouts? Well, I was actually with detectives 192 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: yesterday and unfortunately, just a few days ago of cream 193 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: courts have stated even far more difficult to go ahead 194 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: and thing the phones that are these privacy law is 195 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: now what they have done. As I was on the 196 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: phone the investigators of ten o'clock last night, they did 197 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: get the paperwork in and I feel very optimistic that 198 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: this morning we are want to have the reports from 199 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: her Honest Star and uh and now we actually have 200 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: to get an actual warrant to to get phone records. 201 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: But we think the Honest Star is going to be 202 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: a good starting point and think you know it's going 203 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: to be uh pretty valuable. The honest star that was 204 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: on her vehicle, with her vehicle was only found, um 205 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: I think six blocks from her her house. And we 206 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: have been many people who was actually out there yesterday, 207 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: uh in case some place partment. Now it's put eight 208 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: investigators on this case. So that's how serious they think 209 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: it is. You know, I want to follow what you're 210 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: saying regarding the cell phone. Guys with me is Maria's sister. 211 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: Twenty nine year old young mom, gorgeous, brilliant, working as 212 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: a paralegal at a law firm, headed out to work 213 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: early in the morning. Round eight a m has never 214 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: been seen again. Her truck has been found, abandoned, cell phone, 215 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: pocketbook gone. 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We 240 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: are live in Texas looking for a beautiful young mom, 241 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: the mother of a three year old little girl, who 242 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: heads out to work and the gym early in the 243 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: morning to her job at a law firm, end goes missing. 244 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: All that's been found so far is her truck and 245 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: her gem bag. Due to a recent Supreme Court ruling 246 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: that just came down in the last forty eight hours. 247 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: It makes it extremely difficult for police to paying a 248 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: phone of a missing person right now. However, according to 249 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: Tim Miller, who leads EQUI Search, we may get a 250 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: little knowledge out of the on Star. To Jason Ocean's 251 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: veteran criminal defense attorney, Jason, this is a big deal 252 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't know that you can 253 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: get your track or information by subpoena. And you know, 254 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: subpoena sounds so difficult and legally sophisticated. It's not. I 255 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: had carried with me in my car a stack of 256 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: fifty subpoenas at all times, and I would I would 257 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: put right in the name, I would write in the 258 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: date and the time that I needed them in court, 259 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: and I would sign it and right the short location 260 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: and that's what you filled in. So it's not that hard. 261 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: This would require subpoena ducas. Take um I a a 262 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: subpoena four documents for your on Star. Um you're any 263 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: tracking devise cell phone. But if you can't get the 264 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: cell phone, you can your car is full of tracking devices. 265 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: So another thing is there's nobody to argue it like that. 266 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: We we don't know who has taken her, so nobody 267 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: is fighting this. But still the cell phone company and 268 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: the for instance on Star, they've got to go through 269 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: channels and that takes time. Jason oceans it too, and 270 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: at an extra layer of request, right, an extra layer 271 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: that that that in this case, clearly there's nothing adverse 272 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: about getting it. We all want to get it, but 273 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: now they're for our protections based on a five four 274 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: Supreme Court decision. I'm with you, Nancy. I want to 275 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: go to Dr Daniel Bober joining me well known forensics 276 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: psychiatrist Dr Daniel Bober not only a mental medical degree, 277 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: but a psychiatric specialty and now a subspecialty of forensic psychiatry. 278 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: Dr Bober. Right now, all we have is her truck, 279 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: her gem bag in there. We're waiting to see if 280 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: fingerprints can be lifted. What can you tell us, Please 281 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: go into the mental and emotional aspect of this. What 282 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: evidence can we going to try to find Maria? This 283 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: is really the pain that keeps giving, the pain of 284 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: the unknown. It's excruciating for the family. But in terms 285 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: of the victim, as you said before, I think any 286 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: departure from the normal routine is a red flag, and 287 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: all we can do is hope and pray that she's 288 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: still alive and that maybe she can get a message 289 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: out to get some assistance. What can we learn from 290 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: the text? Can we divulge any can we discern anything 291 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: from the texts not? At this point doesn't really seem 292 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: like we have enough information. Uh that I was interested 293 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: in that text about the ups store. Um, to me, 294 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: that's also a red flag. But at this point it 295 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: seems like we need more information. Well, to me, you 296 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: can tell by a text, of course, I'm just the 297 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: j D, you're the m D. But to Maria's sister Gloria, 298 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: by reading the text responses, did it sound like her talking? 299 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean? Was it full of misspellings she wouldn't normally do? 300 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: Was there slang in the text she would normally use? 301 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: Has she ever on left work and just texted somebody 302 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: or text? And when she was late? Is this the 303 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: coworker she would normally have picked out to write and say, Hey, 304 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be late. Is there anything unusual you can 305 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: identify in the text as not having been from her? 306 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: I can um the text to my brother gives that 307 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: is her, but the rest of the texts are not 308 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: heard to do that. The fact that she does not 309 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: say death, she doesn't say what. She doesn't say death 310 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: as the baby's name. The baby's name is Destiny. Her 311 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: name is not deaf, and that those texts are saying 312 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: des d e s. That's not the way she and 313 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: she related to the baby. She always I've already looked 314 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: all over my Texas and they're always saying Destiny. And 315 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: that is significant. That's very significant. I know it's small, 316 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: it's like it sounds like a small thing. To Karen Smith, 317 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: forensics expert, that is a big thing. Everybody knows. I 318 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: do not call John David j D. So if I 319 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: wrote somebody and referred to j D, that would be 320 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: I've never done that. He's ten years old. In ten years. 321 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: If I'm abbreviating, I might text j David just to 322 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: make it shorter. So Karen Smith, that would be like 323 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: me suddenly calling you k S. I've never done that 324 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: my life. You would know it, right. That's not Nancy 325 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: or somebody, which I don't like that either. Jumping thing 326 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: is that go ahead, Gloria. And another thing is that 327 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: she does not write slaying words. She does not she's 328 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: even though it's let's say, well she's speaking to her 329 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: co worker, her supervisor, so she would not um right, 330 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: slak words and they're they're different words there. I cannot 331 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: remember right now, But on the text there's words that 332 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: she wouldn't write. Who does call the baby dies? Who 333 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: would know her that calls the baby does? We don't 334 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: call her death, We call her destiny. I have my 335 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: personal word for her, um, but it's usually destiny destiny. 336 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that you said you have your 337 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: personal words for her. UM. That's really striking me. You know, 338 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: Tim Miller joining me the leader of the equisearch army 339 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: that he has somehow created to find this missing mom. 340 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: You know, tim Um. For instance, if I refer to 341 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: John David, I might call him big Boy. That's his 342 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: nickname ever since he was born, or a name my 343 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: dad gave him. Nobody else would know it, but somebody 344 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: in our immediate family took t I c. That's a 345 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: nickname for John David. For Lucy, nickname little girl. And 346 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean there's several nicknames that only somebody within our 347 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: family would know. Tim Miller, tell me how this is striking. 348 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: You did Maria have, for instance, an angry boyfriend or 349 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: an X or what do we know? Tim? How are 350 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: you directing the search? Well, we got our suspicions on 351 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: somebody's law enforcement does too that There was another extremely 352 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: disturbing text that came in at six seventeen that afternoon. 353 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: Or she texted a co worker and actually said I 354 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: am followed by a vehicle with two Hispanics and when 355 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: I find a safe place, I will call you. We 356 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: know that text did not come from her. We feel 357 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: as though the person that they possibly did something to 358 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: Maria was texting as though she was still okay out there, 359 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: Tim Miller, I was writing so fast to get every 360 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: word you said. Could you mind telling me that again? 361 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: Six sevent pm mystery text texts as I got mystery 362 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: checks and stated that I am being followed by a 363 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: red pickup truck with two Hispanics in it. I will 364 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: contact you when I find a safe place. So use 365 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: the word to hispanics. Yes, no, she she used first 366 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: to white white or yeah white art Hispanic? Would she 367 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: ever say the word no too? I mean she is Hispanic? 368 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: So why was she that okay right there? That tells 369 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: me that he took her. I mean, wow, My problem is, 370 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: if you're being followed by someone and you're trying to 371 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: drive away, why are you going to write a big 372 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: old paragraph and explain his ban nick Latino white, black yellow. 373 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: If you're being followed, you don't have time to write 374 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: all that unless you're using um, your Siri where you 375 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: just dictate into the phone. But even then, but why, 376 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: that's what I'm wanted about to say to him exactly, 377 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: That's what I was just about dictating into Sirie. You 378 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: should be calling nine one one, go ahead, Gloria. Another 379 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: thing is another thing? Is it's nine? I'm sorry it's six? 380 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: Um um? Why is she not calling a family member? 381 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: She is calling she is texting the co worker at 382 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: this time. She is not in business hours, she is 383 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: out of work. That says to me, maybe they didn't 384 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: know who. They didn't know the family. Okay, that is 385 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: telling me that they can look at her phone, but 386 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: they don't know who. I wonder how she had you 387 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: guys listed in the phone. Let me ask you this. 388 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: Did she have a lock on her phone? Like I mean, 389 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: because yes, was it easy to figure out like one 390 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: one one one or something like that. Yes, because the 391 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: baby knew it, So could somebody figure it out? Or 392 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: did they make her give them the lot number? The 393 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: baby would know how to get in the phone. But 394 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that it's not easy for someone that doesn't 395 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: know the pattern. So how would I'm trying to figure 396 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: out how would they have gotten into her phone? To 397 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: have to be somebody that's that's familiar with her and 398 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: she is a she's a person that's not trustful, not 399 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: she doesn't trust anybody. She is me. Theyby where is 400 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: the baby girl's dad in this scenario? He well, he's 401 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: not with her, but he's always calling and he's always 402 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: coming to the home to see the baby. Um, they 403 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: had a communication for the baby. Um, not a relationship, 404 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: but it was all for the baby. After anger or acrimony, 405 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: any problems with the X. No, does he have an alibi? 406 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: He's he was at work. That's what he says. I 407 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: would for him if he bit me on the next 408 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: But that's the first place you look, because that is 409 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: some one that would know might know her code, might 410 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: know her her travel routine. UM, let me ask you this, 411 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: Tim Miller et Research leader, where in relation to the 412 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: home in the office while her truck found was it 413 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: on the way or was it out somewhere, for she 414 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been well, it was in a direction that 415 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: she wouldn't have been in. Again, it was only a 416 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: few blocks from her house. And we actually talked to 417 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: people there at the house. And I talked to a 418 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: guy there Sunday morning and he said the first time 419 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: he seen the truck there was about seven o'clock in 420 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: the evening and he didn't see anybody around the truck. 421 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: And then he went back out there about to see 422 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: if the truck was still there. We was gonna take 423 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: a picture of the truck, but it was too dark. 424 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: And then from what I understand, all Star actually located 425 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: that vesic for at three o'clock in the morning. Okay, 426 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: let me understand that it was only maybe six six 427 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: eight blocks away from the house, so it was it 428 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: was definitely somebody that new Maria, And Maria will let 429 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: me ask you this, tim are you telling me her 430 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: truck didn't appear the six or eight blocks in the 431 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: home until later in the evening about eleven o'clock. And 432 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: so what is strange about that, Nancy, is when the 433 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: text came in at six seventeen six. Then it's like 434 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: that was kind of a setup that Hey, I'm being 435 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: followed by somebody, and now a truck is scene around 436 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: seven o'clock, so you know somebody was her phone to 437 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: kind of Okay, this is significant. This is very significant 438 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: to Miller because this says it's not random like a 439 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: man and trust me, this is a man that did this. Okay, 440 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: So a man sees her, he attacks or robs her, 441 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: maybe molester or kills her bam and leaves her. No, 442 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: this is someone that staged it. If I'm correct that 443 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: the vehicle was not there before say, six pm. Are 444 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: we sure that it wasn't there or that nobody noticed it? 445 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: Nobody noticed So you're saying it could have been there. 446 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: It could have been there, but now away yesterday and 447 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: we thought there were the detectives of mail man was 448 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: actually going around. Uh, he did not see the vehicle there. 449 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: We talked to several of the neighbors. They had a vehicle. Uh, 450 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: they not seen the vehicle there. We actually looked at 451 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: surveillance cameras for hours the day before yesterday. I see 452 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: if we could see a vehicle coming that vehicle coming 453 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: by their uh, and we didn't see it, like of 454 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: course it could have came from the other directions. So okay, 455 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: let me think, yeah, happened to her before that text 456 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: came in at my thirty and on the state she 457 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: was to be late and certain she texted in she 458 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: had to go back home because the baby was sick. 459 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:14,959 Speaker 1: To Karen Smith, forensics expert, this is a big, big 460 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: evidentiary clue. If this were random, her body would have 461 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: been left where she was killed or abducted. That that's 462 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: where the car would be. Okay, this is not where 463 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: she was abducted because this is not her usual route 464 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: to work. It's sent. If the car was not there 465 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: before six pm, that means someone made off with her 466 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: and took the trouble to come back, leave the vehicle, 467 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: stage the scene and send fake text. Karen Smith, that's 468 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 1: a lot different from a random assailant. Care and explain absolutely. 469 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: That was my first question. Was the truck found on 470 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: her normal route to work. If it was not, that 471 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: means that either she was forced to drive it or 472 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: somebody else drove it and placed it there on purpose. 473 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: And I've seen this before. That truck is a forensic 474 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: gold mine, and I really, really hope that police are 475 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: going through it with a fine tooth comb. You know, 476 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: you need one fingerprint, one sample of DNA, one hair. 477 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: One of these pieces of evidence can link to whoever 478 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: was driving that car, and then we can find out 479 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: possibly what happened to Mariajimenez Rodriguez at this point, where 480 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: the truck was parked, the direction it was spacing, any 481 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: cell phone data that that they'll be able to glean 482 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: once they get the subpoena pushed through UM. And actually 483 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: her purse is also gonna be key, because you know 484 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: as well as I do, that person didn't keep the purse. 485 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: They tossed it. They tossed it, they tossed the keys. 486 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: So if they can triangulate or get the mobile positioning 487 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: of that cell phone, they're gonna have to go dumpster diving. 488 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to go trash driving to see if 489 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: they can find the person any of those areas as well. 490 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: Right now, the search is on for a beautiful twenty 491 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: nine year old young mom of a three year old 492 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: little girl named Destiny. Where is Maria joining me right now? 493 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: Her sister, Gloria tim Miller, the leader of Equasearch, who 494 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: managed to put out a call for help and brings 495 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: in nearly one hundred searchers by foot a TV coordinating 496 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: efforts from a command center set up at a truck 497 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: part entire area Right now, no sign of the missing mom, 498 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: but we know foul play is involved. Joining me, Tim Miller, 499 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: equa search. Tim. I want to go back to what 500 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: we've learned so far. We know that the last real 501 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: text from Maria was around eight a m. Eight ish 502 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: a m Her car was either left six to eight 503 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: blocks off her normal route to work right then, or 504 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: and this seems more likely, the car was to the 505 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: truck was taken and then returned to the area around 506 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: six pm that evening, followed by more fake text. Tim. 507 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: Where and how are you searching for Maria? Well, we searched, 508 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we searched so much in the areas 509 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: where the vehic correspond and probably at three or four 510 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: mile radius of that just kind of clear that in 511 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: case something happened in that area, and that's what we 512 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: always do. Start work person last seen vehicles last seven 513 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: about from there. Personally, I don't believe she's going to 514 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: be in that area because of the time frame. Now 515 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm hoping this any minute, literally any minute that I'll 516 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: be hearing from detectives and they have the information of 517 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: the on star. And if we have that information, of 518 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: course now we hopefully will of something to go on. 519 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: I anticipate that is going to take good ways away 520 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: is my anticipation at this time. I want to talk 521 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: about this text and it proves to me Gloria that 522 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: her her truck was staged to be near her home 523 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: because this text that she sends out, which I believe 524 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: was around uh pm, says that quote Hispanic males two 525 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: are following her in a vehicle number one. She is Hispanic, 526 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: So why would she say in those terms? Why would 527 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: she use that phraseology? But also she's just six blocks 528 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: away from her home. I don't think she would have 529 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 1: even termed it somebody's following me when you've just left 530 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: your house. How do you know somebody's following you haven't 531 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: given him a chance to follow you yet. And that 532 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: tells me that's all a big lie glory. Yet that 533 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: didn't happen that way. When I when I read the text, 534 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: I immediately said, this is not her. That's not the 535 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: way she she would um phrase that, And being her, 536 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: she wouldn't have text. She would have called somebody. She 537 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: would have called me, her brother, or she would have 538 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: called her father, but she would have not text. And 539 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: especially the co worker at that time, she would not 540 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: have done that, and that that was doing to text. 541 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: What did you say about six nineteen at that time, 542 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: at that time frame, she should be at the gym. 543 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: She she wouldn't. She would leave the gym like at 544 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: six thirty ish she would call me and like before 545 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: she would have called, she would call me and tell me, oh, 546 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: I'm heady. Tone. Well, this isn't right because she the 547 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: baby wasn't sick that day, she didn't go get the baby, 548 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: and she never reported for work. So all of this 549 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: is a lie which puts my timeline back. Dr Daniel 550 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: Bober joining me forensic psychiatrist. Someone not only has made 551 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: off with her, they have taken great pains to try 552 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: to throw us off the track. Dr Bober, I agree, Nancy, Um, 553 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: everything points to this being something that's completely targeted. This 554 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: was not random and not only was a targeted, but 555 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: as you said, Um, everything is being done to throw 556 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: us off the tracks. I totally agree with you, and 557 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, think about it. Jason Ocean's criminal defense attorney. 558 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: You and I have covered and analyzed so many criminal cases. 559 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: Typically in a random attack, the victim is attacked, they're robbed, 560 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: they're assaulted, their carjacked, and bam, it's over and you 561 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: want to get as far away from that vehicle as possible. 562 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: You don't take the time to circle back almost twelve 563 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: hours later to plant the truck and lay down a 564 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: lot of fake text. You skedaddle, You're gone. So this 565 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: tells me a lot about who the purp is Jason Oceans. Yeah, 566 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: it shows us that it's someone in an inner circle, 567 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: close enough to have a lot of information, and someone 568 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: who's worried that the net could be cast on them 569 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: in some way. So they're using their quote unquote intelligence 570 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: and planning this and as a result of that that 571 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: gives us even more and more cluse. But the circle 572 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: is close and tight, not far, Jason Wilson, I agree 573 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: with you and disagree with you at the same time. 574 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: It's somebody that knows enough. They know about the baby, 575 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: they know to say they're going to be late to work. 576 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: They figure out who detects but Gloria, amen, as this 577 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: is Maria's sister. They don't know enough to know that 578 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: she would be at the gym. They don't know enough 579 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: that they don't call. They called the baby Daz, not Destiny. 580 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: A lot of of of clues is that they may 581 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: know her, but they don't know her well enough to 582 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: know those significant factors. Gloria, that is correct. So what 583 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: they don't know that she would have a family, or 584 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: or that at that time she would text the family, Gloria, 585 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: tell me what's going on in your mind right now? 586 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: I think it's somebody that knows her, somebody that planned this. 587 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: It's somebody that she knows. Tim Miller, equa search. Tell 588 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: me about the search as it's standing right now. What 589 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: ground have you covered? What has been done? What is 590 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: happening now? A lot of ground and we've got a 591 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: lot more and and again hopefully, uh, the sound star 592 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 1: is going to lead us in a direction. We need 593 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: to be personally anti. I think I have some time 594 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: with him, talk to the person that's responsible. And I'm 595 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: going to leave that one where it's at. What I 596 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: know you brought in a t V. What about tracker dogs? Well, 597 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: we don't have a starting point. We know that she 598 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: was not abducted. Where that vehicle was found we know 599 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: that for a fact. So there's no place to start 600 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 1: almost highly agree weather down here, and we just burned 601 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: dogs out and I shall we've been burning our people 602 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: out there. There's not a starting point whatsoever. And again, 603 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: hopefully this oddstar it is going to lead us in 604 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: a area we need to be. My favorite about that though, 605 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: is not as that car, as that truck was planning 606 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: and if she was taking another vehicle and they we're 607 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 1: hoping that's not the facts right now that it looked 608 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: like it's a fact. But you know, this morning with 609 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: the on Star report, UM, I think that's gonna be 610 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: the most valuable thing that we have now if they 611 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: can whether they're evident with the investigation of evidence comes 612 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: up that yes, there was definitely found play well, I 613 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,479 Speaker 1: can tell you right now that uh yeah. I think 614 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: the investigation leads that way to the point that they 615 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: can get the phone records, and then they can get 616 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: the phone records also as a person of interest, Um, 617 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: I think we've got an opportunity that we can find her. 618 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: And unfortunately I don't think we're going to bring her 619 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: home the way we want to. The family. Well, I'm 620 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,959 Speaker 1: still holding out hope on that I really am. I'm 621 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: thinking back on the twins when they were just three 622 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: years older. Boy that they made their mom. I want 623 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: to go go to Maria's sister, Gloria Iman as Gloria, 624 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: tell me what your theory is. You're working theory right now. 625 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 1: I just I'm just hoping that she comes home. UM. 626 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that. Um. Probably whoever started this, whoever, all right, 627 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: I just have a lot of I really don't know. 628 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: I can't even think. I'm just praying to God that 629 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: she is will and she comes back home. Joining me. 630 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Lee Egan, Lee, what 631 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: can you tell me by the search as it stands 632 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: right now? As it stands right now, Nancy, they are 633 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: continuing to search, according to the c i O at 634 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: the Houston Police Department. Now they didn't tell me much, 635 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: but they did say him Miller and his team are 636 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: on the search and it is ongoing. She still is 637 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: the misconsidered a missing person with mainly Egan. Crime online 638 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: dot Com reporter Jason Oceans you know waves to his 639 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: shoulder to shoulder. Although we argue most of the time 640 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 1: for so long now on the on various criminal cases, 641 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 1: but Jason, which way can we turn now? What what's 642 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: your working theory? I'm still I'm still that it's someone 643 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: who knows her well enough. Maybe not uh, with such 644 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: specificity relative to calling Destiny Deaz and so forth, but 645 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: but enough to try and fudge through. That's that says, 646 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: someone perhaps at work, someone recently known to her, that 647 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: knows enough information so it doesn't feel random. Uh, it does, 648 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: as Tim say, feel very planned and and bringing the 649 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: car back again, as you say, uh, all a part 650 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: of something that ties it in a lot closer uh 651 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: then further away. So I think once we get those records, 652 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: and we're waiting for them very soon, I will have 653 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: a much better snapshot of where we are. That's been 654 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: a slowdown. Thanks US Supreme Court for your ruling. Guys. 655 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: This Houston woman, this young mom, has not been seen 656 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: since she dropped her baby, three year old Destiny Destiny, 657 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: off of the babysitters and headed to work. Maria was 658 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: last saying wearing a dressy shirt, possibly green in color, 659 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: pastel colored slacks. She had on brown ballet slipper type 660 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 1: shoes a pink apple watch. She was carrying a tan purse. 661 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: Tim Miller with echo search on the scene and has 662 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: been searching for the young mom Maria. What we know 663 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,919 Speaker 1: now she has not been seen since she dropped off 664 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: Destiny with the babysitter, her truck turning up near Wallaceville 665 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: and Wayside. She is a very risk posible, never missed 666 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: his work, and a disappearance of this nature is not 667 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: like her. The search is active in going on now. 668 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 1: The search command center is located in the parking lot 669 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,399 Speaker 1: of Texas Truck Parts and Tires A two North Wayside 670 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:25,479 Speaker 1: that's at Wallstville Road in Houston. Guys, where is this 671 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: young mom? All we have now are a series of 672 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: seemingly fake texts. Tell me, Gloria, how is Destiny without Mommy? 673 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 1: The current news She's thinks she's on vacation. She we've 674 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: center with her godparents. Um, she still doesn't know that 675 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: mom is missing. She thinks Mommy is at the hospital, 676 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: um getting a shot, getting a shot, and UM, we 677 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: haven't told her anything. But the day before yesterday, I 678 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: spoke with her and she just asked me, Dida, can 679 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: you please come pick me up? I want to see you. 680 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: Do you really miss me? I mean I feel that 681 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: she knows something's going on. But nobody is showing her 682 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: any feelings or anything. We're trying to keep her calm. 683 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: She is a sick baby, so we're just trying to 684 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: what she has. UM. It's a rare condition. Uh. It 685 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: attacks her muscles. It's a muscle disorder and she gets seizures. 686 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: She has UM. You're in problems. They have to be Cather, 687 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: Cather guys in her um and she has to take 688 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: a lot of medication and only she goes to therapy 689 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: physical and UM. It's for her muscles. It's all for 690 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: for the muscles. You can do right now is is 691 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: follow these leads and pray for this little girl destiny 692 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 1: with so many physical and medical elements that needs her 693 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: mom so desperately. We are on the search for Maria 694 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: Imenez Rodriguez. Please help us bring her home. Tipline is 695 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: seven three eight eight four three one three one also 696 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: eight three two three nine four eighteen forty Where is Maria? 697 00:47:51,239 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: Nancy Gray's crime story signing off goodbye friend. Did you 698 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: know a recent law can leave your personal data exposed 699 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: online for anybody to find? 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