Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chats motherfucking podcast. Mason,
Speaker 1: He's a legendary Queen's rappers. He's agreed, is your boy
Speaker 1: in O R? He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is
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Speaker 1: Trink Up, motherfuck mother? Would it good? Be Hopeully's want
Speaker 1: to say, this is your boy in O R? What
Speaker 1: up is d J e f N? And this drink
Speaker 1: Chats motherfucker? Amaze up that when I'll tell you, when
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. This guy, this, this person that's standing
Speaker 1: next to me has one of the most unique, one
Speaker 1: of the most brilliant, one of the most loyal stories
Speaker 1: in the hip hop from five O four Boys to
Speaker 1: you know the Hot Boys, to to to being a
Speaker 1: no limit soldier to ride in the out selling millions
Speaker 1: in records from them the guys being the first people
Speaker 1: to drop an album every week, every month, on every
Speaker 1: week I've never seen nothing like that, never seen nothing
Speaker 1: like that prior to that, and I've never seen nothing
Speaker 1: like that after that. These guys were one of one.
Speaker 1: They are a one of one. We had the Big
Speaker 1: Colonel on here. He didn't swear. He was the only
Speaker 1: artist that we had here that did not swear. Master
Speaker 1: me and the a was broke. He was trying get
Speaker 1: him the sweat bad, he was trying to get him
Speaker 1: the drink, and he did not swear at all. And
Speaker 1: now we got the motherfucker. So the motherfucker shocking up.
Speaker 1: So so let me let me ask you off top.
Speaker 1: Did you watch versus Last Light? I did? I did? Did? Okay,
Speaker 1: al right, First off, who did you think was gonna win? Um?
Speaker 1: I kind of was on the fence. I thought it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a tight one. I mean, I like
Speaker 1: the dip set um, but I also think the locks
Speaker 1: is underrated and stupid good too. So um, so you
Speaker 1: said you went into the game with no no things. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know, But then what happened when you watched it?
Speaker 1: Keep watch? I mean it s thought it was like
Speaker 1: it started off a little flimsy and it just kept
Speaker 1: getting like you know, and I was so rude for
Speaker 1: the dip set because I think that they dope. But
Speaker 1: I think that presence was so crazy from everybody, but man,
Speaker 1: when when kisses, he opened the thing up, He open up.
Speaker 1: He opened that thing up. Man. So there's there's two
Speaker 1: things that I learned real fast in life. One, I
Speaker 1: don't like have a heart in the gym at all.
Speaker 1: Every time I see heart in the gym, he's just
Speaker 1: like this tough guy, like he's nothing like how don
Speaker 1: heart never want to be in the gym, and a
Speaker 1: guy just I just don't want to Just don't train up.
Speaker 1: He know, none of them together. Don't like it, don't
Speaker 1: like it, don't like it. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: battle to kiss on stage. That's also learned that like
Speaker 1: he his stage presidence, it's like the more that he
Speaker 1: starts getting into it, like like did you see like
Speaker 1: when they played the New York City and he just
Speaker 1: had to New York record by said you ain't get
Speaker 1: no girl records and he said, I got yo. They
Speaker 1: DJ was they rehearsed they did? They? Yeah, well silk
Speaker 1: to a person, Oh that's a I would do it.
Speaker 1: Versus At first I was like nah, but I like
Speaker 1: what they're doing, so they also appreciate each other in
Speaker 1: the celebration. And then it's also um good camaraderie to
Speaker 1: against each other too. So I get down to I
Speaker 1: got the perfect Maty. I'm just messing. That's brought up.
Speaker 1: It's been up, got the perfect math. Okay, that's what
Speaker 1: you got, juvenile m Okay, we're starting to trouble right here.
Speaker 1: We signed it up. Are shot because you know, I
Speaker 1: watched it No Limit documentary obviously, and this was something.
Speaker 1: There's something because I watched it this time knowing that
Speaker 1: you was coming here. But I watched it before and
Speaker 1: this is something that blew over my mind. I didn't
Speaker 1: I didn't understand he said that. He said when cash
Speaker 1: money came to sign to Priority, I believe it was
Speaker 1: he said, they don't sign him there, don't sign him
Speaker 1: because and most people say why he say, don't siund him.
Speaker 1: That sounds like some hater ship. But then if you
Speaker 1: hear what master Peace said after that, he said, don't
Speaker 1: sign them you you might get them killed. Or I
Speaker 1: might have saved their life because they said that Talio
Speaker 1: and Magnolia, it was really added that much that if
Speaker 1: they were designed to them that's that's what it alluded to.
Speaker 1: I might be like, you know, putting a hunt on tenants,
Speaker 1: but described to us for that because you guys from
Speaker 1: the Callio, right, I didn't there from the Macmagnolia, right,
Speaker 1: So it really wasn't a cash money uh no limit
Speaker 1: be it was. It was described to us for people
Speaker 1: who have never been to New Orleans. Um it's funny
Speaker 1: because um, it is a serious thing. So if you
Speaker 1: if you're in the Calio back then in Magnolia, was
Speaker 1: like we was right by each other. Though it was
Speaker 1: almost like that's than a mile to away, maybe two
Speaker 1: miles away, three miles away, so but it was real
Speaker 1: and we didn't understand it because, um it was so
Speaker 1: the city was so small, right, so if like you
Speaker 1: might be from there, but you walk in two or
Speaker 1: three miles, you gotta go to school, you gotta do whatever.
Speaker 1: So somebody hit your man and then you hit them.
Speaker 1: But but you know what, the crazy started off as
Speaker 1: fights and then somebody just up to the one the rest, right,
Speaker 1: and then it's like boom, somebody got killed and then
Speaker 1: that person you know, and it it just got it
Speaker 1: got stupid big. Because yeah, it's like one year I
Speaker 1: think it was murder capital of the world and that
Speaker 1: was any any city. So it was just crazy. And
Speaker 1: then so they took a real serious so we really
Speaker 1: I had people, actually my my had family in the
Speaker 1: Magnolia that I couldn't even go see. You couldn't see.
Speaker 1: I couldn't go see and I and that was like
Speaker 1: as when you're young, you're thinking, like mine, I can't go.
Speaker 1: But it was that serious because if you know, if
Speaker 1: you lost somebody, they lost somebody, it's serious for them.
Speaker 1: And it kept going on for like and it took
Speaker 1: I think it took that into us being the Callio side,
Speaker 1: but really we was New Orleans, but it took us
Speaker 1: being from the Calio and them being from the I
Speaker 1: mean us been to Callia Magnoia. They said, okay, you
Speaker 1: know limited this and then cash money is that. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't like it wasn't that enough cash money was
Speaker 1: doing anything. It was cool and everything was working. So
Speaker 1: it was it was it was it was one hunting.
Speaker 1: So also when I'm watching the documentary, it said it
Speaker 1: says that, I mean, they didn't say this out right
Speaker 1: it but it was like, yo, if if he would
Speaker 1: have stuck with the music, It would have been a
Speaker 1: lot harder for cash Money because you know, he was
Speaker 1: doing so much things. He was doing the basketball thing,
Speaker 1: he was doing all that. Do you think that's that's
Speaker 1: that's true or um, I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: more like, Um, I think it happens, are supposed to happen.
Speaker 1: I think I think Cashman everybody and cash Money is dope.
Speaker 1: So I think they would eventually probably came up. But
Speaker 1: at that time we just had it on lock. But
Speaker 1: that you know, I was gonna be somebody come behind you.
Speaker 1: So I think it would have probably happened. But I
Speaker 1: think it happened a little faster, probably because we were
Speaker 1: into movies, films, you know, stuff like that, so it
Speaker 1: probably gave him a little a little more door open.
Speaker 1: But it's handly enough to probably eventually make it for sure.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, it's the illative
Speaker 1: watching the documentary, Like I said, I we iterated to
Speaker 1: watch it again. Well, they said that even the Fiends
Speaker 1: was real fees everything was crack hands really don't yeah,
Speaker 1: everything was real a thing you the money, everything was
Speaker 1: your documentary. You know, it was crazy. Um, And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this with with great ignorance. We didn't identify
Speaker 1: who where it was because all we knew at the
Speaker 1: time was East coast, West coast, So were just like
Speaker 1: all right that we don't know what that's at, like
Speaker 1: we just because we because And that was like the
Speaker 1: first time definitivety like I know for the East Coast,
Speaker 1: I know you you represent in Miami, Miami. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you guys spelt it out there, like we
Speaker 1: knew that New Orleans was a crazy fucking place, just
Speaker 1: too bout about it, like the crackhead um, like we
Speaker 1: had not heard of this ship. We had not like
Speaker 1: we didn't even know music. Asked to poor art a
Speaker 1: tech sis then do you understand what I'm saying? So,
Speaker 1: so what wasn't when you guys came out. Was it
Speaker 1: like trying to please the East coast trying to please
Speaker 1: the West coast? It was just like, you know what,
Speaker 1: let us just stick to our guns. Period. You know
Speaker 1: what happened nor real talk. It was we was in
Speaker 1: New Orleans, but we wasn't making New Orleans music. So
Speaker 1: if you look back, it was more about bounced music.
Speaker 1: It was p pop or whatever that was that was
Speaker 1: New Orleans right, but we was in the streets and
Speaker 1: in the trenches with it. So we wanted to make um,
Speaker 1: you know, like the Tupac music, you know, like that
Speaker 1: type of He was like, right, but they wasn't really
Speaker 1: hearing it, and we had to kind of broaden our
Speaker 1: think that's where the various stuff came in. That where
Speaker 1: yeah Richmond as well. Right, Yeah, So that so US
Speaker 1: US in New Orleans was more. Um, it was a
Speaker 1: different kind of music that we was. We was a
Speaker 1: part of it, but we was trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how can we brand out? So we watched the East coast,
Speaker 1: we watched the West coast. Think we took a trip
Speaker 1: to the West coast and that kind of had a
Speaker 1: little more influence on us. Look, so now Jack Thriller,
Speaker 1: we're speaking to Jack Thriller and describe you. Then Jack
Speaker 1: Twitter said, because Silk is like the Richie Richard what
Speaker 1: what what does he mean by that? The artist Richard
Speaker 1: or the cartoon. I think he's going for the cartol.
Speaker 1: What does he mean by that? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean j Champagne fill up a couple. But now Jack,
Speaker 1: I've been on Jack for a long time and so, um,
Speaker 1: what he does know is that you know, I work
Speaker 1: hard and and I'm behind the scenes on a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff too, So to do some movies, right, A
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, like a lot of you know, the
Speaker 1: tour stuff and all that. I put that on. We
Speaker 1: have no limits, took Sottle soot got that you gotta
Speaker 1: sit it up. Don't yet so you got no limit
Speaker 1: to all you said, put the tour out the tours.
Speaker 1: I've been doing pretty good. Yeah, it's been crazy, but
Speaker 1: the pandemic stopped a lot of it. But now it's
Speaker 1: back started back up, and um, I want to say
Speaker 1: September October we everywhere were like the Hawks play every
Speaker 1: and um Pelicans. So we're doing like you know, we're
Speaker 1: doing pretty good with it. Um so just behind it.
Speaker 1: So he knows me as really doing business and getting
Speaker 1: it done. So I think that he means like but
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't see a lot of me,
Speaker 1: so they're like, oh, what's silk up to him? But
Speaker 1: I really get I get busy, man, because because I
Speaker 1: see a lot of rappers. See I guess what he's
Speaker 1: saying this. You know a lot of rappers we get
Speaker 1: a three, four or five years run. But the person
Speaker 1: that gets it's a twenty year run. You either really rich,
Speaker 1: but really really bro I'm good, I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: that I'm saying. But you know, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what it is. I was able to. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't really look at stuff that we did in
Speaker 1: the past. I try to keep it consistent what I
Speaker 1: could do to day. So I think that what I
Speaker 1: do bring to the table I will always be somebody
Speaker 1: who could redefine itself. I mean music wise, I mean
Speaker 1: music can change, but business and doing we did it's
Speaker 1: the same thing. And I don't even talk about like
Speaker 1: what we did, how much money you made. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about consistently be able to do it. Like you could
Speaker 1: find a new hustle every day and make it work,
Speaker 1: but you could use a plot the same principles and
Speaker 1: working hard and being innovative. It's gonna always be the
Speaker 1: recipe for sex success. And it seemed like y'all were
Speaker 1: just using music to get to these other businesses at
Speaker 1: one point. Yeah, I mean most people are the smart
Speaker 1: ones doing that. Um, you take a Beyonce, you take
Speaker 1: um a Drake or whatever. They got so many deals
Speaker 1: off the table, off the court, I say, in basketball
Speaker 1: um that I'm saying. So she nothing to do with
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying. But she
Speaker 1: could use her brand and and look at Jake with
Speaker 1: the aspad whatever you know, Rick, whatever, you can say,
Speaker 1: everything to do with music, because that's the platform that
Speaker 1: helps her. Yeah yeah, network, yeah, take and take that.
Speaker 1: I think that's the success right there, Like because she's
Speaker 1: such a dope all them such a dope musical artists. Um,
Speaker 1: that's a fan base right there. So you'd like saying,
Speaker 1: so even or he got his base, they're watching and
Speaker 1: did he spend his base? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the restipe for a success. So
Speaker 1: I don't think that. And me, I still make money
Speaker 1: off of like my old music, but I'm also still
Speaker 1: making money off of doing shows. That's gonna be no
Speaker 1: matter what. I still can playing my fault and keeping
Speaker 1: So that's that's because so I gotta ask this question.
Speaker 1: I want you to be one who was the first
Speaker 1: hot boys because it was confusing us being on the
Speaker 1: East Coast. You got hot boys, y'all hot boys, and
Speaker 1: now waiting there's a hot boys too. I feel like
Speaker 1: there was more hot boys than just keep it. So
Speaker 1: you know what it was, Um, I mean I give
Speaker 1: it to them. I think I give it to him, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean but but it was a had a
Speaker 1: hot boy movie. Ye. But it was a cultural thing.
Speaker 1: Um I think yeah, and you know everybody, I'm a
Speaker 1: hot boy, this hotboy, rich, hotboy, round on hot boy
Speaker 1: nor you Okay, what does that mean? Hot boy? That
Speaker 1: means like the man in the city. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like if you say he's a hot boy
Speaker 1: in New York, and that means that he's either snitching
Speaker 1: all um, he's hot like the police is looking for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why it was. It was a totally different sling
Speaker 1: when they was like, it's a hot boy like and
Speaker 1: then there was two of y'all. It was two different sets.
Speaker 1: I would say, Uh, it's more of the pop. They're
Speaker 1: looking for us. We're on fire, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We got the city on you know, we're doing out,
Speaker 1: we're hustling, we all here making stuff happen. That's what
Speaker 1: it was. So that's for the whole city, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That was the city. So, um, it
Speaker 1: was just it was just that's what's that ever describancy
Speaker 1: of cash money because y'all called each other hot boys,
Speaker 1: um or not? Never was, but we haven't spoke about it.
Speaker 1: But we respect them as the hot boys, So I don't. Um.
Speaker 1: The movie was more about the city of Nuance being that,
Speaker 1: like what's determent? And he scopes they used like let's
Speaker 1: say four for honybody just anything he lit? I don't know, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I say we make the movie called he Lit?
Speaker 1: Who is it? Who runs it? Like who owns it?
Speaker 1: So it was more of that, But it's all it
Speaker 1: was all up. It's all respect though as far as
Speaker 1: them as a group, so it was all what was
Speaker 1: both of the crews. Obviously it was it was no
Speaker 1: limit first right that nationally? Yeah, and then cash Mare
Speaker 1: did that amplify the beat between the two hoods the
Speaker 1: music being so big nationally. I don't even know. I
Speaker 1: think like it was the same regardless. Um, it was
Speaker 1: just bad overall, you know what I'm saying. It was tough. Um,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of people. Um, but I would
Speaker 1: saying if if it was, I didn't I didn't hear about.
Speaker 1: It was just more street stuff, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So but holy Motor crockle motially getting any
Speaker 1: you ready and then a come on, god damn it,
Speaker 1: holy my got notes, man, I got notes. That's good.
Speaker 1: Let's ok this. This was something that was the beat
Speaker 1: by the Pound. Okay, what was choc and Kylicole? I
Speaker 1: believe it, no chaos. I think it was klc odn
Speaker 1: um moby uh. I think Craig being some other people
Speaker 1: like it was. It was a bunchet. Now. So so
Speaker 1: when you look at all the first albums, all of
Speaker 1: you guys, it's all produced by the same producers. Then
Speaker 1: you guys weak this heavy heavy heavy plateau uh and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden when you look at the documentary,
Speaker 1: it was actually like I think p on the phone,
Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, you don't want to work with us,
Speaker 1: but that's it. And it was simply like that is
Speaker 1: that walk with You're going to the studio every day
Speaker 1: with the same producers, and then you you're going to
Speaker 1: that same studio and then it produces is gone. But
Speaker 1: I know you developed a relationship at least a sound
Speaker 1: definitely developed the sound sound. Yeah, yeah, you know it
Speaker 1: was and you know you adjust to it. Um but
Speaker 1: you know when you have that's like dre and snoop
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know what I'm saying, You have it, um,
Speaker 1: and you know to go to walk, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to where I'm gonna go hit you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like one of those things where
Speaker 1: you have to get over that and then how you
Speaker 1: how you redeveloped the sound when you have a hot
Speaker 1: sound And that was the most. That was the toughest thing.
Speaker 1: And then you know the people so you kind of
Speaker 1: cool with everybody. Um, but yeah, I think that's the most.
Speaker 1: But was that a business lesson? Because um, because at
Speaker 1: times I'm sure you you can't agree with everything, Pete,
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying? And um, was that
Speaker 1: Was there ever a time where he was like damn,
Speaker 1: I wish he would have did this or did that?
Speaker 1: Like was that one of them or No? For me
Speaker 1: at the time, it wasn't that because I didn't know
Speaker 1: about it. I'm just kind of artists, respecting in everybody's
Speaker 1: face and kind of like doing my thing. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing what I'm doing. So end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know, he is in control and so I just
Speaker 1: I just kind of whatever he kind of went with,
Speaker 1: That's what it was at that point. So what whatnot
Speaker 1: that I personally knew at the time, So I couldn't
Speaker 1: say if he did it right or wrong. He might
Speaker 1: have had a justification for or not. Just I don't
Speaker 1: know what he had for it. But yeah, that was
Speaker 1: something I guess at the time it happened, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay, something that we we've never had
Speaker 1: a chance to speak about on on this show. It's
Speaker 1: Soldier Slim. Soldier Slim is so much of a legend
Speaker 1: I've re met, but you know, me hearing about him,
Speaker 1: and I remember him him like for lack of up
Speaker 1: at a term, like from when we first heard it,
Speaker 1: like like I heard of y'all, like that was one
Speaker 1: of the first him and c Murder really just like
Speaker 1: those dudes are really street, like that really really really street.
Speaker 1: And so just sim obviously he lost his life to
Speaker 1: the state streets. So un speak about Soldier Slim because
Speaker 1: we never like spoke about him. Yeah, not Soldier was dope, man.
Speaker 1: He was like before his time he was I mean
Speaker 1: I was cool with him. I ain't had a chance
Speaker 1: to really like no, you know, really deep into him.
Speaker 1: But the streets loved them, um, his hood loved them,
Speaker 1: and they he had this aura about them where it
Speaker 1: was just he could just do it and you feel
Speaker 1: him because you know he'd been there in the chances
Speaker 1: with it. So it was dope man. So he was
Speaker 1: against first rapper. Second, he definitely was a bit of
Speaker 1: a gamester, but you know, not really you know, to
Speaker 1: the point where it's just like doing like that. It
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know, mess with me. You know,
Speaker 1: its own. It's it's up there, so that's it. But
Speaker 1: you gotta respect that though. So sure, now Murder, I
Speaker 1: met See Murder, I met Comfort. I'll tell you a
Speaker 1: second time I met See. I think this is right
Speaker 1: after y'all sign snoop. This is after the incident happened
Speaker 1: and whatever was that. And we had the Sauce Awards
Speaker 1: and I've seen NASA day before and I was telling me,
Speaker 1: you'll come on my bus and I go on the
Speaker 1: bus and there with a TikTok sounds like the sound
Speaker 1: about right, that's the last taking walking on nas bus.
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting and they had a real relationship. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting how they talked to each other. And I was like,
Speaker 1: but that's something like you don't see no fitches with Nazis.
Speaker 1: You don't see like that. Did you know about that
Speaker 1: they have? I didn't know about it, but I know,
Speaker 1: see what pop up? Man? He bet with everybody like, um,
Speaker 1: I think many all got a super love relationship for him.
Speaker 1: Um it's like random like like you mess with everything,
Speaker 1: like every like glue to. Everybody got a you know,
Speaker 1: they got a dreamine love for him. So I could
Speaker 1: imagine that and then naz Is one hunting two so
Speaker 1: I could. I could see them too, tr you know,
Speaker 1: tru right. Um, it was a little describancy. Um, you
Speaker 1: know obviously everyone knows that that was that would see
Speaker 1: murders prove Yeah, uh to change Yeah comes out to
Speaker 1: your basically to all you did they ever worked out out?
Speaker 1: Or Um? They actually did. Man, they talked on the phone, Um,
Speaker 1: squared it away, got you know, you know, kept it.
Speaker 1: It's all cool. I think it was more of like
Speaker 1: a misunderstand I think it was more like a respect
Speaker 1: thing where it's like I think that the meanings are different,
Speaker 1: but it is the same, you know. And I think
Speaker 1: that he took that to offense. What but then once
Speaker 1: they talked, I think they was cool. I think to
Speaker 1: change saluted them um and say it wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: the big deal and so um they both worked it
Speaker 1: out and I think they're really cool. Now for sure,
Speaker 1: make some most that. Yeah, that's the uist Papa Jesus
Speaker 1: going that, I'm ready to do some shots. You're ready
Speaker 1: to do some shots? All right? Cool? No, I got
Speaker 1: the crazy shot? Alright, what is that? Listen? I'm not
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, I'm not. I don't even if I
Speaker 1: got on my fingers. I went to I went to
Speaker 1: what is moon shot? Holy? Okay, it's just crazy. So
Speaker 1: before we get into this, before we get into that, right,
Speaker 1: I said, the five of Four Boys, right, okay? Oh
Speaker 1: you dated Monica to write no Controversial. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: not that that's seen girl like, oh that's right, that's
Speaker 1: yeah at all. She was talking to a lot of
Speaker 1: At one point, I knew I came here. I knew.
Speaker 1: I can't think I came for nor you was a
Speaker 1: sex symbol at one point. At one point every check
Speaker 1: in the game, he was running around with a point
Speaker 1: or something like that. A little bit take a shot
Speaker 1: some good ship, Um, you want some rocket um, you
Speaker 1: want something. Oh yeah, you're some heavier ship. Are you
Speaker 1: your showing? I might be like completely? So you take
Speaker 1: a shot here, take you want to take it? Cool?
Speaker 1: Give me one day, give me one give me another cup.
Speaker 1: M up. Now that's that ship felt like it was crushed.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's good. I'm good. Come on, come on,
Speaker 1: we're gonna motherfucker. I don't We don't know if you
Speaker 1: know what our shows about, our shows about giving people
Speaker 1: they flowers, but they're alive. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Your motherfucker less. You beat me at every category, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that. But we're still good. Were good.
Speaker 1: We heard you beat me at every category that you know.
Speaker 1: It's the best year of my life. Damn for you.
Speaker 1: Let me show you me fun no, no me plug
Speaker 1: corrupt Cort. But Dad's was with him and every award
Speaker 1: we came up, you came up and it was like
Speaker 1: still shot. Yeah. He was like, damn, I'm nigga, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't win. That's because then you would never go
Speaker 1: to awards. Don't more. I was brought up like every
Speaker 1: other episode I argue with been, you know, like this
Speaker 1: is like I had nothing to do. With anything, like
Speaker 1: we're arguing about ice cream or some stuff ship and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll never forgive you for the SI Awards.
Speaker 1: He's like, what are you about? But we would joke
Speaker 1: about before that. You're talking about you knocking down a
Speaker 1: lot of such a thing back in the days because
Speaker 1: what you gotta You're married now, I'm definitely, but we
Speaker 1: had to pass. So you know, he was thinking about
Speaker 1: a lot of things, right, would you put it like that? Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: but setting it up for him to want to answer, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good. That's a good up. Definitely before my serious
Speaker 1: relationship now for sure. But now I'm no, I'm just
Speaker 1: I would have a lot of I have friends and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, because like I'm not gonna he's good.
Speaker 1: He's good. He's I'm not gonna lie. They had you
Speaker 1: in like jay Z category type of style, like it
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm that serious, Like yeah, no, I'm
Speaker 1: that serious like you. He's like, I'm telling you, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. Like at one point when we were all
Speaker 1: on that cover, like there were people telling us not Silk,
Speaker 1: You're not on Silk's level, and we were like really,
Speaker 1: They're like, yo, he going to be compared to jay Z.
Speaker 1: I swear to god, there was like this, the amount
Speaker 1: of chicks he was knocking down. I'm just saying, it's
Speaker 1: the room on the street, you know, you know what, man,
Speaker 1: so no limit. Man, I ain't gonna lie. It must
Speaker 1: have been a lot of coupies around. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is back in the days, a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of groups. What what's your favorite groupie story? Oh? Then,
Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't really into it like that because
Speaker 1: I was like more, um, just trying to stay out
Speaker 1: of it. Black. You would come to the hotel and
Speaker 1: stuff and it would be just like a bunch of
Speaker 1: women and then be they be at your door and
Speaker 1: then maybe it's like so I didn't I was I
Speaker 1: don't really like that too much myself personal, but that
Speaker 1: was it was. It was just so what you do
Speaker 1: and say it ain't my fault. I would definitely say
Speaker 1: I get out of here. But I wasn't really like
Speaker 1: but it was there. It was just you know, and
Speaker 1: at that moment you don't really know what it is.
Speaker 1: You just you want the motion. But you are successful.
Speaker 1: So at that time, the same thing right now it
Speaker 1: will be the same thing as now. It's just like
Speaker 1: they're gonna come. So what was it? So, yeah, you
Speaker 1: ain't give a fun? Not did I didn't. I was
Speaker 1: just trying to get to the bag and have fun
Speaker 1: and live life. That's about it. Just focused focused on.
Speaker 1: How about Mystical? You ever seen Mysical? I know I didn't.
Speaker 1: That's not like a t but Msical it was like
Speaker 1: we was young. I mean ms school was just like
Speaker 1: every other body. He was just like randomly you know,
Speaker 1: he just have fun, you know, just living his life.
Speaker 1: I was. I was not a private to that because
Speaker 1: I'm doing my own thing. But now shout out to
Speaker 1: Mysical with right, what's up? Man had the All Star team,
Speaker 1: All Star team? Yeah, all Star team. Back to this
Speaker 1: record when you maybe that was real ship. That was
Speaker 1: real ship. Um, so you know we've been good, We've
Speaker 1: been good. Listen, leten, let me tell you something. I'm
Speaker 1: the definition of hate the game and never the always
Speaker 1: like I always blame the sorce I did. But what
Speaker 1: Ben'll tell you that he was like they were paying
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty. I was like, he did not
Speaker 1: say I gave them the war. He never said he said,
Speaker 1: he said, of course, my loyalty was kind of with
Speaker 1: them like they was buying two hundred and fifty tho
Speaker 1: ads at the time. And but he's never said I
Speaker 1: gave them an award. I can't ever take that from you.
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm an honest person. So let me get
Speaker 1: a plan. Let me get a plank divorce. You got one, brother,
Speaker 1: Let's go baby, Let's go. So and that album was
Speaker 1: it charged to the game? Was neither charge the game?
Speaker 1: I made man one of those? No, it was charged. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think tried the game mat Ja Z on it,
Speaker 1: but that's not the one. May man man Because I
Speaker 1: just heard a record with you. You said, don't compare
Speaker 1: jay Z the Kodak. Oh that was another record. But
Speaker 1: I did do a song with jay Z. We're Gonna
Speaker 1: get you. That got that question? Okay, hold on, So
Speaker 1: you said don't compare jay Z. What was the act?
Speaker 1: So I'm um, I'm more. No hold on when I say, um,
Speaker 1: don't compare jay Z to Kodak. But I think I
Speaker 1: think I'm more. But I'm more because I'm more a coach.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna cooreack than jay Z or jay Z
Speaker 1: didn't Kodak. I think I flipped it so bad, both men.
Speaker 1: So um, you can't compare to two, but I was
Speaker 1: saying that, Um, but I'm more Kodak. I gotta get
Speaker 1: that line. It's a good one. I gotta figure that.
Speaker 1: You gotta figure that part out. You don't got the
Speaker 1: record that has That was a bit just slipped on us.
Speaker 1: We didn't, we didn't, We wasn't prepared. It was just
Speaker 1: I'm on jay Z and Kodak. So it's on, it's on,
Speaker 1: It's on all makes sense later album. Personally, it's a
Speaker 1: pretty good line on me. So so that's recent because recent? So, um,
Speaker 1: you are you? You like Koda? Because that as an artist?
Speaker 1: I met him, I met him. He's out of his mind,
Speaker 1: like met I've met Kodak. In the restaurant, he brought
Speaker 1: his own chicken. Let's make some noise for heads. Anybody
Speaker 1: own chicken? That the show We get a Prime one
Speaker 1: twelve and he said, here's some of that hasty chicken. Boy.
Speaker 1: I said this nick it overmind me of a rich sunny.
Speaker 1: He bought his own chicken. Listen. Listen, by the way,
Speaker 1: Prime one twelve is a pretty great restaurant. The crib.
Speaker 1: I don't know, he just said, this is that hastry
Speaker 1: chicken boy. I said, oh, I just cooked the way
Speaker 1: he wanted it. No, he had in the white ship.
Speaker 1: This is the look the all getting food kings come in.
Speaker 1: He had his own ship. I looked. I said, this
Speaker 1: is this is this is probed boys. Man, he said,
Speaker 1: boys stay different. Man, he's definitely different. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: different dude. Man. Would you like to work with new
Speaker 1: artists like that? I do, Um, But I see it's
Speaker 1: so many talented artists. I'm like, man, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of good ones too, so it's kind of good to
Speaker 1: keep seeing it redeveloped. Most people are like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: want to s be stuck in the time where that's
Speaker 1: the area that they like. But I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: artist talents. You can tell you I don't have his
Speaker 1: country rock whatever. I feel it's talent, that's it. And
Speaker 1: people like Kodak, you know, sometimes a little bit um
Speaker 1: they do something they wig um, but still the talent
Speaker 1: is there though. No, no, no, that's that's that's I
Speaker 1: fun with him. Crazy is the mother so um? All right, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: my block, the yell block, that's yep, that's the one
Speaker 1: that's that's the rector with Jay z Okay, how did
Speaker 1: this happen? So you know what um Jay I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's funny that j is like, um successful back
Speaker 1: you know, back then he had the work ethics of
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm saying what I'm saying because
Speaker 1: it's the people who have that kind of determination and drive.
Speaker 1: It takes him a while. But like like even like
Speaker 1: going jadakass you say, like Jadak has been dope, right,
Speaker 1: but I think yesterday proves to everybody else that who
Speaker 1: didn't know how dope he was. Right. So he's great actually,
Speaker 1: but he's been great though, right. So so what j
Speaker 1: is like even from the first time at Priority whatever
Speaker 1: he was doing whatever he's trying to look for a
Speaker 1: deal or whatever, I don't even that quick he was.
Speaker 1: He was the quick. But what happened was, um, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a funny story. It's like I wanted Jake.
Speaker 1: Nobody really knew what JA at the time, but I
Speaker 1: kind of wanted before and then it kind of worked out.
Speaker 1: We got together and um, and so I'm like, y'all
Speaker 1: need this song, and and by that time, by time
Speaker 1: I actually got to it, JA was kind of popping
Speaker 1: a little more and rest in piece of DMX too.
Speaker 1: I think, um, it's supposed to be me, me, DMX
Speaker 1: and j on the record, and you know, the DMX
Speaker 1: was like, I got you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: not to say I got you, right, And I think
Speaker 1: what happened I had had watching us right there. Look
Speaker 1: he's watching my guy. You know what I'm But so
Speaker 1: what happened was, um, my album had remember the um
Speaker 1: what's the it was a it was a tour that
Speaker 1: jay z n DMX was on. Um, um no, it
Speaker 1: was right, that's the one. So what happened was my
Speaker 1: album ppposed to be turned in on a Thursday at
Speaker 1: tenant eleven am, and um, I think, um, the conta
Speaker 1: tour was over Wednesday night. Okay, so Wednesday night and
Speaker 1: I needed, I say, I need to say. By Thursday
Speaker 1: we were masking it right so here no, no, he's
Speaker 1: he's he's in. He's at the concert. He's a concert.
Speaker 1: And he was like, UM, I got you. But you
Speaker 1: know it's funny because he um uh left the show.
Speaker 1: I think immediately went back and and knocked it out
Speaker 1: like a couple like three or four in the morning
Speaker 1: and sent it. You know what I'm saying. And for
Speaker 1: you to make the time and the time. I'm saying like,
Speaker 1: and he could have just been you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm tied. I just dropped the show and slip the
Speaker 1: d MX two. He even really want to do it,
Speaker 1: but you know, he just probably was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get in the morning. I didn't have time to do it,
Speaker 1: so I just had to go with boom with Jay
Speaker 1: gay Man. He came through Man and I hit j
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, because Jake killed it. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: how am I told you? Jay life and even nothing.
Speaker 1: I was about to get my hunted. He was like,
Speaker 1: He's like, no, we're good on the house. So um
Speaker 1: and it's good because he asked me to do something.
Speaker 1: I did something for him. So it was it was dope.
Speaker 1: It was dope situation. Jay solid man, Jay's all the
Speaker 1: solid Just be clear. He just said I was gonna
Speaker 1: give my honey. Let's just be clear. I was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was one thing that was known. That's like the
Speaker 1: difference and I don't I don't want to bring up
Speaker 1: the other company, but one one company is kind of
Speaker 1: known for not paying people. And then I mean, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you don't hit the rumor it's just me, no problem,
Speaker 1: I'll take it all right. But and then master p
Speaker 1: and no Limit was known for the exact opposite, for
Speaker 1: paying the artists for everyone like even if you look
Speaker 1: at that said everyone gotta watch, everyone got a car,
Speaker 1: everyone got a house in their name, not just a
Speaker 1: house of watching in a car and someone else's name,
Speaker 1: that they can always take it away, which we heard
Speaker 1: that happened in death Row, which we heard that happened
Speaker 1: in these other companies. What what what what made you
Speaker 1: think that he wanted to do right by his artist?
Speaker 1: What made how do you develop that? I think that
Speaker 1: at the time, maybe not knowing, but just having the
Speaker 1: resources to do it, um, seemed like the right thing
Speaker 1: to do. And then I think, um, if you're making money,
Speaker 1: you should be able to pay you know, you pay
Speaker 1: the money, you know what I'm saying, because that's how
Speaker 1: you make more money. You keep keep it going. You
Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, not give somebody then they're
Speaker 1: not gonna work for you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I think that was that was for sure. That that's different, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's real, real, real, real different. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: even a sloop then you know, um, It bugged me
Speaker 1: out to hear Sloop say after I think it's after
Speaker 1: the Chronic and at the Doggie Style and at the
Speaker 1: summit that he was he was broken. He asked for
Speaker 1: thirty five hunter and then Massive Vega thirty five thousand,
Speaker 1: Like if that don't prove loyalty to you, like you
Speaker 1: immediately be become loyal to a person, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that was that was ill? Like
Speaker 1: you never heard that, you never watched the documentary Okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that's why. That's why I didn't watch it when p came. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, that's crazy. But yeah that so did you
Speaker 1: realize Like I spoke to Fat Joe yesterday right in fact,
Speaker 1: Joe said to me, he was like, yo, man, you
Speaker 1: should have came out here. I said, man, I had
Speaker 1: some good shot. I can't I can't leave, And he's like,
Speaker 1: so He's like, yo, but this is one of the
Speaker 1: moments where you in his to read and you know
Speaker 1: that this is history that you're careering. I asked you that, like,
Speaker 1: did you know when y'all was like on the top
Speaker 1: of the world and doing these albums week after week
Speaker 1: after week after week, even though you might have not
Speaker 1: been on the employee side, but that was your brother
Speaker 1: who was doing it. So you you got you gotta
Speaker 1: get credited for that. Anyway, did y'all know y'all was
Speaker 1: in the middle of history and what it was doing
Speaker 1: for the South to on top of the um At
Speaker 1: the time, we didn't really know. We was just hungary,
Speaker 1: had a plan executed it. And when I think when
Speaker 1: you do that and nobody else is doing that, because
Speaker 1: we were out work everybody, we'll be like going to
Speaker 1: sleep on the floor. We were the same closed ten
Speaker 1: days in a row, and we was like, keep paying
Speaker 1: us chicken, We're gonna come to the concert into it,
Speaker 1: you know I'm saying like we was like, oh you
Speaker 1: got filed out, was gonna So it was more like
Speaker 1: the work ethic. And I think that every time that
Speaker 1: we went somewhere like we would be like in a
Speaker 1: in the hood, right, like we're coming your hood and
Speaker 1: be like what y'all doing here? And people you know
Speaker 1: in the hood, they're like, yo, you ain't come back here.
Speaker 1: You can get it right. But we had we met
Speaker 1: people that was like, Yo, we're gonna let you slide
Speaker 1: this time. Because y'a all crazy, but we're gonna boty
Speaker 1: the CD. You know this, this is the people in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Who's who's who's talked that talking walk, that
Speaker 1: walk so um So that same thing with us. We
Speaker 1: was like in that moment, we didn't really know. We
Speaker 1: was just doing it. So when we come to New
Speaker 1: York and we passed out to see these you remember it.
Speaker 1: We go to we d C, we go to Florida,
Speaker 1: and so Bobby hitting that grassroot campaign. Every time we
Speaker 1: look up, we have a new base that's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get these guys. And we put the money
Speaker 1: back into the projects. So it was constantly putting it back,
Speaker 1: putting it back, and and then but you will also
Speaker 1: see people like, oh I like y'all. Now I really
Speaker 1: like y'all. And then that it was growing and it
Speaker 1: was like no declining because when you're gonna pick pick
Speaker 1: your first checkup, so you're in the hood, then you're
Speaker 1: gonn pick your first check up for this amount of money,
Speaker 1: and you did it on your own. You just say, oh,
Speaker 1: I made this happen with this, So you take the
Speaker 1: bulk of it again and put it back, and it
Speaker 1: kept on you know, you know, money, money, make stuff.
Speaker 1: I was telling Noora that I remember, I said, but
Speaker 1: I think it was nine. How can I be down?
Speaker 1: I remember you guys coming out here, and it was
Speaker 1: like it felt like it was a thousand of people
Speaker 1: wearing no limits, you know, like it was like it
Speaker 1: was just an impression that nothing impression on me for sure?
Speaker 1: You know, yeah that too? Yeah? So all right, then't
Speaker 1: this happens or one time where it seems like everyone's
Speaker 1: sleeping the lake? Right? I believe mystical left first. Um,
Speaker 1: then this is your brother, so I imagine you don't
Speaker 1: have no option to leave because you got to look
Speaker 1: at him and Thanksgiving. I imagine, I imagine I can't.
Speaker 1: I know, I wouldn't let my brother leave like you
Speaker 1: ain't going nowhere, like let me make mistakes with everyone else,
Speaker 1: but you staying. You know what I'm saying, because I
Speaker 1: think it happened like two or three times, because it's
Speaker 1: like a new load limit. But the first time it happened,
Speaker 1: you had to be eighteen something like that. You see
Speaker 1: all of your friends that you used to leave it.
Speaker 1: What is going through your minor? You're saying, this is
Speaker 1: business and you understanding that or you're saying, man like life,
Speaker 1: life is hitting you hard, because that's a good question. Um.
Speaker 1: At the time, I was just in it. Um. I
Speaker 1: don't think I really appreciated like what was going on
Speaker 1: around me. I was so locked in on what I
Speaker 1: was doing. I know that, I'm sure you know, some
Speaker 1: of the artists had a grievances. I'm sure you know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody felt a certain way or whatever. So
Speaker 1: I was out of that loop of that. I just
Speaker 1: kind of went with the punchers and then me, you
Speaker 1: know at that time, kind of like the loyalty is
Speaker 1: with the family, um. And I didn't hear what they
Speaker 1: were saying. So I'm kind of like, yeah, whatever, I
Speaker 1: ain't trying to hear none of that stuff you're talking about.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure everybody had probably a reason that they
Speaker 1: thought they probably was, you know, but I wasn't priviged
Speaker 1: to it, so I was just looking at it like, oh,
Speaker 1: us against y'all, you know, or whatever. But you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't really like that. It was just I don't
Speaker 1: know what the business part of it. They probably was
Speaker 1: just felt a certain way and with the don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I stayed out of it, like like
Speaker 1: like one of the one of them the listen, dudes,
Speaker 1: I know it's it's Jungle, right because Jungle is not
Speaker 1: his brother. And when you see Jungle, when Jungle just
Speaker 1: walks on the street, just people that just get that
Speaker 1: Jungle just to get at his like like because that's
Speaker 1: something you ever had to go through, like people trying
Speaker 1: to get at you, to get at p or people
Speaker 1: trying to tell you their their their stories. Like I'm
Speaker 1: just giving. I'm just just saying like King and Able
Speaker 1: or something like come coming to you and saying, silk Man,
Speaker 1: you tell Peter let me go. He went do something
Speaker 1: like that before. Um, I'm sure I did. I remember
Speaker 1: many conversations where I'm talking to people and they have
Speaker 1: agreevance as good or bad. Some of them have a
Speaker 1: good sort of like I want to do this, and
Speaker 1: some of them have I guess stories where they're like
Speaker 1: I want to move and do this way. So um, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that happens a couple of times, um, a lot
Speaker 1: of times. And I want I want to say something
Speaker 1: you shout you out too, because I heard that that
Speaker 1: you stay for your boy, So I appreciate it. And
Speaker 1: I was like you can do anywhere in the world
Speaker 1: and Jett and everything I said, I'm not doing this.
Speaker 1: It's still it's two and point because let me just
Speaker 1: say it, tell you something, like you know through all
Speaker 1: this ship, you know it was all in a good game,
Speaker 1: and you know me, you know you know because I
Speaker 1: just think, not just you personally, I just think I'm
Speaker 1: a better artist, right, like, not just you personally, but
Speaker 1: overall to anybody. So when you think like that, I
Speaker 1: didn't gonna have to go look at the numbers and
Speaker 1: you look and you say, damn, this motherfucker did those
Speaker 1: two million? I want to slow million that year, like
Speaker 1: you gotta just give it up for real, Like I
Speaker 1: did go platinum, but it was a slow platinum. I
Speaker 1: pun was a fast platinum. Um. DMX was the fastest
Speaker 1: platform I did. Have never seen nobody going fastest him
Speaker 1: and then didn't and then did it again that Yeah,
Speaker 1: but didn't you drop another album that yeah? Yeah? Man?
Speaker 1: Now I think that when I was sold the person,
Speaker 1: Yeah so you did with DMX did wow? A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know that because I remember, I think,
Speaker 1: if I'm not wrong, Charted to the Game dropped in February. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: and see what when you google that has and then
Speaker 1: see what albums dropped. Because I believe you did the
Speaker 1: same for sure. So why are you so humble? Man? Um,
Speaker 1: I just feel make you take a shot and get
Speaker 1: some ship. I'm don't get you popping some ship? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Fear And who was the same the album
Speaker 1: that he dropped that same year might have been maybe, man,
Speaker 1: that's the same year. It was very close, I know
Speaker 1: that much, or might be the beginning to Night Now
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Let's say, yeah, you want seem a
Speaker 1: hip hop man? Come on, man, I'm glad I think
Speaker 1: that without Google too. I did that without Google Google.
Speaker 1: So do you do you know the impact that you
Speaker 1: made on the game? Do you know, like because I
Speaker 1: could see you a humble guy one million percent? Tell
Speaker 1: her I appreciate that. But like you know, buster buster bums.
Speaker 1: You always tell me they're like you like your humbleness,
Speaker 1: but that ship so from lack of I'm going to
Speaker 1: say to you, I like your humbles that. Do you
Speaker 1: know who you are in this game? Do you know
Speaker 1: what you really really did? Like on your own? Without you? Brother?
Speaker 1: I know? Good? No, you know it's funny bro? And
Speaker 1: we I had this conversation like a couple of nights ago,
Speaker 1: and you a ercent correct on it, and I'm black
Speaker 1: you brought up because I am humble, I am quiet,
Speaker 1: and we're just saying that we're actually doing some stuff
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna bring people to my everyday life, right
Speaker 1: because my reay life is crazy. But I really do
Speaker 1: know now what I did. And I shout out to
Speaker 1: all the artists, all the CEOs, all the people like, UM,
Speaker 1: shout out to um my guy, um quality control. He
Speaker 1: he really told me that. He's like Silk, you know
Speaker 1: you you're one of my favorite rappers, right, So so
Speaker 1: I mean, but some of the rappers, UM, I'm saying
Speaker 1: as well, what happened James Bond, you looked like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. Somebody said Jackie Coca, jack Coca. My god.
Speaker 1: What you're saying is and that's correct, And I think
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a flaw by you know,
Speaker 1: that's not really good. It's good to be that way,
Speaker 1: but but I ain't got it's good, humanly good. But honestly,
Speaker 1: I really do know what I did because all people
Speaker 1: tell me all the time, and I'm humble, but I'm
Speaker 1: like you that I'm about to get out of there
Speaker 1: because um, you know you you put the work in,
Speaker 1: and what a lot of people will say is, oh,
Speaker 1: you scused before your time too, you know. And then
Speaker 1: the artists. I love the artists too because even a
Speaker 1: newer generation, they they they kind of see what what
Speaker 1: we saw. So what I never was rapping off beat
Speaker 1: people just listening wrong, you know what I'm saying Like
Speaker 1: that was a big, big, big One of them things
Speaker 1: I always do is Twitter is like the most negative
Speaker 1: place to go in the world. So whatever I interview
Speaker 1: a artists, I always say, I'll go to Twitter and Twitter,
Speaker 1: but like y'all got sil the shocker, I got something
Speaker 1: sus and they always say the meanest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: So I'll take some of them now used for an interview.
Speaker 1: And one of the things I said is when I
Speaker 1: said I got cil the shaker immediately said, well, obvious
Speaker 1: he always ripping off beat and just as they were
Speaker 1: hearing it wrong, No for sure, No, no, listen to
Speaker 1: just think about it. If you back back and listen
Speaker 1: to it. Now. Everybody, when we wrapped like I used
Speaker 1: to wrap what I'm saying, they like and if people
Speaker 1: say you you you blue face fall lyrically, but blue
Speaker 1: faces don't don't don't know. Blue faces don't to me.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is when I said that, it
Speaker 1: was like, if it wasn't for silk, there would be
Speaker 1: no no blue face. But I feel like they're saying
Speaker 1: because the off beat thing, what do you think? That's
Speaker 1: exactly what they're saying. And but you're saying, not off beat,
Speaker 1: just a different pocket. Yeah, I'm you know, on the
Speaker 1: way that the floor was, it was just a different pocket.
Speaker 1: It was. It was so on point though, like right, um,
Speaker 1: and I did it that way on purpose. But I
Speaker 1: also did it that way because who wants the same thing, right,
Speaker 1: So but if you listen to it now, it makes
Speaker 1: sense and nobody wants to the same thing now, They're like,
Speaker 1: so we should go You gotta go back and do
Speaker 1: what you used to do before, because because not only
Speaker 1: the off beatness but also my screen I yell, my up,
Speaker 1: my down, all of it was designed and and if
Speaker 1: you listen to it now you would understand. Because you
Speaker 1: gotta be a person that says, listen, you don't like
Speaker 1: Keith Sweat, You're not gonna like them. If you don't like.
Speaker 1: Of course me too. But but if you don't like,
Speaker 1: um took a shot for seat that Jack to take
Speaker 1: a shot, anybody, did you put your gun and your
Speaker 1: shot glass? No that we're him, Okay, that way it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. Yeah, go on, good guy, you want a
Speaker 1: shot to want Man, that's your shot. Jack. You gotta
Speaker 1: make up. Look, you gotta make I gotta I don't
Speaker 1: make up. I'm gonna I won't remake. You got to
Speaker 1: fil shit. Come on, now, I ever got some of
Speaker 1: that luke in first class as ye, please let the
Speaker 1: bottom do gonna listening. Today we're gonna use you. Today,
Speaker 1: we're gonna shot the shot. I ain't try none of
Speaker 1: that ship and so I don't suggest you try to
Speaker 1: finish your shot. Finish your shot. This is so, this
Speaker 1: is a whole hole. It's all about you, Salo, Salo,
Speaker 1: all about you. Yeah, appreciate my guy kids appreciate it. So, Jack,
Speaker 1: we don't speak to you since a pizza push and
Speaker 1: fired you. Yeah, we we had, we had we had
Speaker 1: difficulties getting the new contract together. Okay, yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: so you know I'm moved. I'm trying to get my
Speaker 1: own pizza pussy ship going on. Yeah, I'm talking. It's
Speaker 1: only said pizza pussy. No no, no, no, man, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know the piece of pussy no more. You see,
Speaker 1: I didn't change the flow of my own my Instagram stories.
Speaker 1: You know it's no more ladies in there, no more.
Speaker 1: You used to be one of my favorite subscribers. You
Speaker 1: used to always be inside my my stories looking at
Speaker 1: the ladies. You said your wife was don't deal me.
Speaker 1: Were gonna go to you that scribe? We're gonna do,
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. He scrabing my only fans. Come on,
Speaker 1: he's not the only one on the jack subscribed. I
Speaker 1: want the Jack. Yeah, yeah, I'm switching my ship up.
Speaker 1: I was married now yeah yeah, yeah, I'm w man
Speaker 1: lately from s w V. Hey, y'all first had a birthday,
Speaker 1: y'all say happy birthday, Happy birthday. She's a fan of
Speaker 1: the show. She hasn't had a forty for the eighth
Speaker 1: say she got to be older than me, God damn it,
Speaker 1: I'm forty three. Yeah she good at five years? Got that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's don't truk about man, don't don't, don't don't try
Speaker 1: to God damn all, what a r don't try to
Speaker 1: put on ain't nothing wrong with so let me ask
Speaker 1: you Jackie and asked every night, man, I I try
Speaker 1: to eat, ask as much as I can, Okay, in
Speaker 1: the evenings, in the morning, in the afternoons, I don't
Speaker 1: let do you eat as night? Do you eat your week?
Speaker 1: About you? Silly? Your wife, your lover. If you don't
Speaker 1: eat that, you gotta love everyone you eat well. I
Speaker 1: mean you roum the router to the two. You just
Speaker 1: wanted to push it and I wanted you just want
Speaker 1: to take it from that's what you want to down.
Speaker 1: They're had a song called Downtown you DC. You're very
Speaker 1: disrespectful right now here and crazy? What's up on? Selk
Speaker 1: the Shopper and Jack Thrillers here too as well. I said,
Speaker 1: you're very disrespectful here interviewing Silk the Shocker and Jack
Speaker 1: Thrillers here as well. All right, where it's funny, y'all.
Speaker 1: What what you're doing? What you was calling me for?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure it out, Okay, So pull up
Speaker 1: on me, yea man, fucking me and just come through.
Speaker 1: You got the job, nigger ship, Come on the job.
Speaker 1: Just come through like we're here. We're here, We're here,
Speaker 1: We're here, We're yeah, I'm better. Yeah, I'm playing on Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm concerned. Really, brother, that's the moon Sean. I
Speaker 1: mean that's what I said. I thought when Sean come white?
Speaker 1: This is on John second? Can it's a prune or something?
Speaker 1: Not an act that ain't a motherucking egg in this ship? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So what's up with the jacket? Oh man? So little
Speaker 1: check this out, man, this is to rate designs. You
Speaker 1: remember last time I came here and I blew your minds.
Speaker 1: That's not the same jacket trying the same jacket now?
Speaker 1: Was white last time? This time we had to go black.
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson bad. There was a new season a while
Speaker 1: and now while I was back to giving him for that,
Speaker 1: say season, Nick Kennon's back, Nick back bad. So we
Speaker 1: well this was a very special season a while. Now
Speaker 1: y'all know what happened to Nick and he got taken
Speaker 1: off the air for a minute. He got the thing
Speaker 1: right with the white folks and stuff and whatnot, and
Speaker 1: Vodkom put him back on. He had hit me up
Speaker 1: out of the blue, asked me that I want to
Speaker 1: be a part of the new season. Man. We told
Speaker 1: that Bitch Down this past June. It airs this week
Speaker 1: and I'm back on for the Sound Team season in
Speaker 1: New York into OCTOONA. Yeah, you know she is going
Speaker 1: my way. I got a new job with Nick Cannon.
Speaker 1: I run his podcast division, Incredible Podcasts and whatnot. I
Speaker 1: got four different podcasts on there, one with myself, Tyrn
Speaker 1: Turner and what Now y'all know him from Cane Get
Speaker 1: Us to Society, and Edie wins Low is called Escape Go.
Speaker 1: We got another podcast with me music Soul Child and
Speaker 1: uh Eddie wins Low Witch, James mcquarie and um, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry car painting, Car Paints Get it's a movie review again.
Speaker 1: I got my girl uh lately hit the powder Room
Speaker 1: with her Baby has Shade and h NICKI Nicole. It's
Speaker 1: called the powder Room. It's the ladies of a certain
Speaker 1: age talking about that cougar ship. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, menopause, you know, and then what it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, being at that point in your life and
Speaker 1: enjoying yourself. Yeah yeah, and one more, one more podcast.
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's my girl girl kids, my girl
Speaker 1: kids step friends because her kids my age. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so they can't call me dady. So
Speaker 1: they're my step friends and whatnot. And that's where Kyle
Speaker 1: Shine and market Lyons step freeings. Okay, they're my self friendings.
Speaker 1: Let's check your listen. I'm still looking for a watch
Speaker 1: right now. I'm still looking at you. No, I've just
Speaker 1: been shopping. It's just you know, you for the fake
Speaker 1: ship men rob me for the fake ship. Nickel said,
Speaker 1: I took that. They don't understand it was just three fifty.
Speaker 1: I only spend three fifth on the ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I got like tim om at
Speaker 1: the house. So keep you gonna keep prav you know
Speaker 1: that's what it is. I'm keeping my for the grant
Speaker 1: in my pocket. Nick's name. Yeah, I guess hanging with
Speaker 1: this guy. And I'm still new manager to man. You see,
Speaker 1: I got like, like, oh my god, man, so any
Speaker 1: book is for sil the shop? Did Silk put you
Speaker 1: in the movie? You? And um? Yes, more money Motion
Speaker 1: the Little do Ye Trace, Little Michael Blackson was Tracy
Speaker 1: was in it? Um, but Michael Blacks was in it.
Speaker 1: G thing was in it? Um? What are not on
Speaker 1: a j but what jay Len mind ja jail dog yeah,
Speaker 1: he don't put you on. Yeah, keep thousand and six,
Speaker 1: he puts you on thousand and six A man, let's
Speaker 1: wait and you wait the Middle Family with me for minute,
Speaker 1: man master. People put me in Hood Starts a comedy
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and six with my Michael Blackson
Speaker 1: and Kat Williams and what not. They've been showing love,
Speaker 1: being showing love, dream come true. Hey to give it
Speaker 1: up for Nora and give it up for the FN
Speaker 1: for having me full time. One of the biggest misconceptions
Speaker 1: about the dynamic of our relationship. People didn't Nora don't
Speaker 1: like me. But if he did, why would he bring
Speaker 1: me to the Show's love right here trying to let
Speaker 1: on the show, trying to call let me get on
Speaker 1: the show. You see how much you're like correct me
Speaker 1: from wrong. I didn't know me. Stop stop letting nothing secrets.
Speaker 1: You gotta relax. That's my send And nearly I got
Speaker 1: the hook up. When when because after I'm about about
Speaker 1: obviously brought about it this this hood class right, I'll
Speaker 1: read some were yeah, um about scarface with scar face
Speaker 1: did horrible? When it did, it did crazy on DVDs
Speaker 1: directed video The Pacino Scarface because a couple of about
Speaker 1: it about it was the quick essential of director to
Speaker 1: consume this is the first time we got a chance
Speaker 1: to see that a person didn't have to go to Paramount,
Speaker 1: didn't have to go to Universe, South, Sony all these
Speaker 1: big things. They could actually come and and do it.
Speaker 1: What is that something you were too young to to
Speaker 1: fathom to understand what was going on? Or m Um
Speaker 1: not not really, because I was there for the transition
Speaker 1: of going into um putting ourself on screen. So even
Speaker 1: some of the videos you go back to look at
Speaker 1: the videos, we was we was going crazy with the videos.
Speaker 1: We were spending like half a million of million dollars
Speaker 1: on the videos. It was it was crazy. I want
Speaker 1: to say, just be straight with me. We we spent
Speaker 1: like a bag on that. I think that's the one
Speaker 1: with Beyonce in them minute Destina Oling. So that was crazy.
Speaker 1: And then um, what you say and say what what video? What?
Speaker 1: Just just be straight with you know, just just be
Speaker 1: straight with me. Who was just be straight with me?
Speaker 1: That was on the in the video, and then it
Speaker 1: was in the video they it was on the song
Speaker 1: Yeah We're gonna make some noise, No I know, actually
Speaker 1: that that was the one of the first songs that
Speaker 1: I mean, she had her own little buzz, but that
Speaker 1: was a little little bean bro. You asked my neighbor
Speaker 1: in Texas. So it's like we all go, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do no Beyonce know we ain't. I'm not. That's not
Speaker 1: what I was thinking about when I came, just making
Speaker 1: sure making track that I got in the hook up
Speaker 1: and whatnot. The only thing it was competing with was
Speaker 1: the Arkelly tape at the time whatnot, because it wasn't
Speaker 1: everybody had both vhs is at the same time, same time. Wait,
Speaker 1: I got the hook up all about about it, but
Speaker 1: I got the hoodout about it. Text was out of
Speaker 1: the same thing, quality too, same same director. I was one.
Speaker 1: For me, I was fourteen, so it was regular point
Speaker 1: for me. Alright, cool, we're gonna do something quick time
Speaker 1: with slimes. Right down, quick time with slime. This is you.
Speaker 1: You youither ask one or the other or if you don't,
Speaker 1: you you you take a shot if you realize you're
Speaker 1: not really drinking like that, So he just takes two
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, you know, good god, i'must not double.
Speaker 1: You look just like, all right, what shot you before?
Speaker 1: He preferred to my own. I'm losing all. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to moon shine and you want to try that the
Speaker 1: pick Come here, leave, we need you. Brother with the pickle.
Speaker 1: He wants some moon shine. He let the moon shine
Speaker 1: the pickle. It's not a pickle, all right, you say both,
Speaker 1: Jack takes a shot, Aprico. If you say one or
Speaker 1: the other, then you know it's just moving on. It's neither.
Speaker 1: It's a shot too, if you all right, so you're ready,
Speaker 1: Oh it's big. I'm not about to say, yo, what
Speaker 1: are you doing to this moon shot? My bad? Nasa
Speaker 1: jay Z? Who snap, don't give him the whole thing? Bro?
Speaker 1: Yeah what the man? Treat me right? Bro can trip
Speaker 1: it on every brid bottle girl ship. We're saying you
Speaker 1: can take the ship from here, but not mean. Don't
Speaker 1: put your nose in it. Don't know the ship. Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, damn jay Z jay Z all right, cool,
Speaker 1: this is easy as well, Master pr bird Man, of course,
Speaker 1: Soldier Slim or Big always slaming the show. Okay, the
Speaker 1: Mexa tupop. You gotta take a shot, don't remember, go both.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. It's not your liver. Oh maybe
Speaker 1: it is you take a half shot. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: have a lit you sure you wanta take a little
Speaker 1: shot too? Good? Okay, my boy, Okay, cool kind of
Speaker 1: one that counts one. Take one though, right, take one
Speaker 1: and then you save fables. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like two shots. Yeah it's good. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm in it's a easy drink. I was gonna go
Speaker 1: drink in the nipe and okay, what is this? This is?
Speaker 1: This is easy? Too many? Uh, these guys, I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta stalk through reading these things before I do that.
Speaker 1: See me at X against the Bull of course, family
Speaker 1: pop Daddy and dreu dr dre okay nineties or two
Speaker 1: thousand hip hop? Oh it's pob go nineties. Okay. The
Speaker 1: locks of me goes like me goes to um, who both,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna both. Okay, Jack, Chuck, y'alla take
Speaker 1: the shot too. We were gonna okay, if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: you don't mind. Okay, that's a job. Okay. India Major,
Speaker 1: I feel like y'all have been Indie the whole time. Yeah, Indie,
Speaker 1: but Major has something even do it the right way.
Speaker 1: Majors could be good too. But indie go indie Cardi
Speaker 1: b or Nicki Minaj. Let's go both, load up, Jack,
Speaker 1: he tried. He's not even taking simpsc mo, He's not
Speaker 1: even just let's come I feel it up? What's wrong
Speaker 1: with how's the motion thing? It's really delicious. It's about
Speaker 1: the party in my mouth? I want somebody. We didn't
Speaker 1: hear that? Did you just say? It's a party of
Speaker 1: your mouth? And if it wasn't invited? We got a
Speaker 1: girl friend. I don't know to think about it. If
Speaker 1: you see me like like like a Instagram picture, you
Speaker 1: need to see me. I'm not sure. Hey man, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. I'm not come on, it is
Speaker 1: what do you take the shot? I don't see him? Sorry, okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: little kid up Boxy Brown, Um, let's go both. Let's
Speaker 1: go Jack, he said, he went both both? Oh ship
Speaker 1: forgot that. I don't know. M hm, take it down.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of shot. Yeah, don't do it with YOUMPAI,
Speaker 1: you're gonna do this jampaign. Pain is a drinker and
Speaker 1: shot as a shot. Everybody ready, you gotta get pictures.
Speaker 1: You do the like burg a little bit for you though.
Speaker 1: Jacket trying to bear and try to bear, trying to
Speaker 1: let you want to regular okay, um, I want you
Speaker 1: to be truthful on this now, let's go. Let's go
Speaker 1: five thousand dollar jacket right here. Okay, okay, rough riders
Speaker 1: or cash money. I want you to be truth from now,
Speaker 1: no political no political self damn are we going just
Speaker 1: cash money or we got the everybody under cash money? Yes,
Speaker 1: it's just the labels, the labels, whatever you want, however
Speaker 1: you want to see it. I'm gonna go both. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go forth. Let's go forth for them, all right,
Speaker 1: Manny fresh or chaoc you got to take our shot, fashot, goddamn,
Speaker 1: I come out the fast, give up, give him this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what I want to take the same ship
Speaker 1: you gotta take. You. You gotta try all the products.
Speaker 1: You're the product tasted. But but at least I'm just
Speaker 1: giving them the battle while the man. Let me use
Speaker 1: the niggas. You don't need me now ever, so you
Speaker 1: don't get you didn't do this with trink train the
Speaker 1: kids niggas. Man don't lie on them. Got real watches
Speaker 1: and you don't talk back to them niggas either. You
Speaker 1: can wains killed me. Have some bullship. You're grouping, brother,
Speaker 1: you're fucking grouping. Man. You take your shot? Taking shot?
Speaker 1: Do we take it? I don't know if that's hilarious?
Speaker 1: Okay it's manny fresh or KLC Manny dope, um klse klc.
Speaker 1: That was dope. Damn that. Yeah, I have a poof
Speaker 1: ree d ships. Little Romeo. It's too easy, man, shout out.
Speaker 1: Definitely miss the leaders, true fast ship right here? Man, Okay,
Speaker 1: respect all loyalty, uh both for show? That's about the shot.
Speaker 1: How do you answer that for him? Because I wanted
Speaker 1: to take the shots and it's true though it's true,
Speaker 1: it's true, It's definitely true. It's definitely true. You need
Speaker 1: both of them. I think if there's loyalty, there's respect,
Speaker 1: that's good. That's good, that's okay. If you can get
Speaker 1: get both of them, you take your shot. You took
Speaker 1: your shout already, bout boy, Hey, what do you wanted
Speaker 1: some of this? What's this? Can you see? You say
Speaker 1: you can see? Now? You want some of this? Mr
Speaker 1: Liza's left time. Now, I'm not sure you can see you.
Speaker 1: Let me take some of that. Just some real ship
Speaker 1: glass and everything. Man, what the fund man for drink
Speaker 1: this shot time right now past. But we don't get
Speaker 1: to that though. I'll give you some a spade past
Speaker 1: me if you don't mind. That's what I wanted. You're
Speaker 1: never giving me an you had on the order be
Speaker 1: last time. You better just order to take this. You
Speaker 1: your brain again. You can't take shots on? Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, but l a Miami. I'm starting like Miami
Speaker 1: a lot. Oh yeah, now you are. I could get
Speaker 1: this both, okay, alright, cool, both went both? Little No, No,
Speaker 1: you can't take you want to take a shot with Mr.
Speaker 1: Don't you dispect him and take a shot of you.
Speaker 1: Don't disprect me like that. Yeah, come on, you are
Speaker 1: a pinch hit up your pinch string. You know how
Speaker 1: they put in a picture baseball you represent there you go, salottle,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's stottle. Mother. You're all right again to me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right, Um, I'm I'm gonna change this up. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go soaked the shock a juvenile, Oh ship,
Speaker 1: it was. It was really mystical, man. Okay, but let
Speaker 1: me ask you something. When I did say that earlier,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to prove that you do have a
Speaker 1: little bit of cockiness in you. Oh, he's who's gonna
Speaker 1: win with Super Shaka and juven Now in his verses
Speaker 1: like who would win? I need to hear you see it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win for show. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: shout out the fuss is that? No, Julia, I gotta
Speaker 1: get the loss of that. You gonna push that nick
Speaker 1: off stage? You gonna come? I would like to. I
Speaker 1: would like to something like that. Would we would go
Speaker 1: at each other, but then we would be route for respect.
Speaker 1: I want end of the day. Ye would think, are
Speaker 1: we going to fight out of you? Okay? I'm a
Speaker 1: black dog show? Okay, So I'm gonna keep going to
Speaker 1: be going to have your heads up msical or missy?
Speaker 1: Ms what missy? Yeah, that's an interesting thing and I'm
Speaker 1: respects like that. No, I think he's an animation like they.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go mystical okay, who okay, I'm gonna both
Speaker 1: on those. That's I like. I like people little. If
Speaker 1: you're going on myssical sticks, let's go. You just see
Speaker 1: it does lets. I would miss shout to miss though,
Speaker 1: Kanye for real, I gotta go both for those both
Speaker 1: both shot. You gotta take a shot jack, my motor skills.
Speaker 1: You gotta take a shot jack losing control of my ship.
Speaker 1: Who it's to drink Champs for real? Here you go, jock.
Speaker 1: The more you drink, the more I can't see you
Speaker 1: see me? Are you? The more you drink like that
Speaker 1: like you should getting he told me, he said, last
Speaker 1: time I did drink Chaps, I was blind. I said, really,
Speaker 1: I've been last few years. I got my sight back
Speaker 1: on the twenty second of June Man, y'all get it
Speaker 1: to y'all, give it up, give it up. You don't
Speaker 1: know was blind? I wanted I was, And he had
Speaker 1: like I have to Mr. The Butler dude with him
Speaker 1: last time and now he got Mr. But no, that's
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's kind of okay. And say you
Speaker 1: got a job now, ain't got right there? Already got
Speaker 1: a job your Hey, you know what I'm saying? All right? Cool?
Speaker 1: And that's what fun yo wording my New York niggas boy,
Speaker 1: he was using New York for ten years. You're better
Speaker 1: not you see it right here? You see it right?
Speaker 1: Dirty South baby, Yeah, I'm playing clow to man Dirty
Speaker 1: South movie. You know what I'm saying. Miniseries heard that flick.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. What talk about salt? Could Take
Speaker 1: a shot? Take a shot, take a shot, Swiss, Swiss,
Speaker 1: beach of Timberland. Oh man, Kai kay Swiss. M hmm,
Speaker 1: I gotta go both on it. Sorry, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: gotta take it. Take a shot. Let's go shot. Sorry, Jack,
Speaker 1: have a little yeah, pull yourself off, pull up me
Speaker 1: and nowhere. I got a song called pull up too.
Speaker 1: As we do it. We got a song your ass
Speaker 1: up right now? Where no getting back to studio. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get something. But I'm because I'm gonna get there
Speaker 1: because yeah, okay, cool, you know we're gonna set this guy.
Speaker 1: Let's say. Yeah, we're gonna come on, come on, sal
Speaker 1: a little, come on. Yeah. I got a project dropping
Speaker 1: into so reckless eyeballs coming out soon of beans like
Speaker 1: cool lind baby, Who'll get right back to am? I
Speaker 1: mat fan? That's disrespecting. Yeah, motherfucking Mexican. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Somebody asking you ain't like that you're on their flags.
Speaker 1: I'm mat fandles all right, cool, let me get back
Speaker 1: to Chris Sam Slane. Okay, I'm not gonna ask this
Speaker 1: podcast or radio. Oh um, now more podcast podcast. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like that answer. Okay, open asa spade Bella mm
Speaker 1: hmm shout to Bellaire, probably as spade yea. All right,
Speaker 1: I think we should make some noise to that. That's
Speaker 1: just cool. I'm not we both both, we love them both,
Speaker 1: we love them both, we love we love you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say both on a loan. We bell you know,
Speaker 1: we love it a spade, you know. Okay, So trick
Speaker 1: Daddy e Rick Cross, Rick Ross for show. Okay, scarface
Speaker 1: ice cube, it's tough one. Oh my god, choose some ship.
Speaker 1: Choose some ship. Let's go. Um damn shout that guy.
Speaker 1: Gotta go both. But you don't gotta drink nishek on this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pack you one pass a lot, one pass up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it with you. Thought pull up the
Speaker 1: pass the asshole. Oh, I said you wanted to pass
Speaker 1: it to you. Pull up, pull yourself a shot and
Speaker 1: then pass me the bottom. Oh come on, come on, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not maybe, sisters laugh right. Maybe I can fight him.
Speaker 1: I'm not. No, you can't see. Let me know, he
Speaker 1: got me out. You didn't see how you can fight.
Speaker 1: I'm doing what I want to do. I'm doing it
Speaker 1: because I want to do. Come on, Paul, I'm not
Speaker 1: because niggas think that you'll be puking me out from
Speaker 1: my lady man, your ladies in, your ladies in, you'd
Speaker 1: be watching this ship. She'll be loving. She's not a show, glad.
Speaker 1: I come on, Paul, Let's know I deserve it, don't
Speaker 1: I deserve it all everything I did for hip hop,
Speaker 1: everything I did for hip hop, and come on now,
Speaker 1: I deserved you like I'm a pizza nigga. Okay, little
Speaker 1: way in to drink you already, gotta take the shot first, Jack,
Speaker 1: I saw that there's nowhere around this one. Okay, take that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, or this boy looks just take that one first. Good,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I gotta go both on those. Let's a
Speaker 1: girl shot, alright, cool, let's bow up and then pass
Speaker 1: the bottom, pull up and then passed up. Gangs. I
Speaker 1: want to shout out organic foodcakes at organic food cakes,
Speaker 1: getting food can food. Jack Tuder was busting down one
Speaker 1: of these burgers. He said there was a party in
Speaker 1: his mouth. Againer girls, none of myth, A whole bunch
Speaker 1: of my girl. It was a whole bunch of leaves
Speaker 1: there and parties in your girls, girls in the brack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the girls good good. I don't know. I'm slight
Speaker 1: as on Drake, but I've been waiting it so dope.
Speaker 1: But let's go Drake. Okay, So I'm gonna the shop.
Speaker 1: He said, he pets still Drake. Yeah, he think he
Speaker 1: took no second. So why haven't you really worked with
Speaker 1: like a lot of cash money artists Because I wouldn't
Speaker 1: you because my man said, because I wouldn't let him. Man,
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta keep it. We gotta stay on
Speaker 1: brand Brome, don't we gotta. We gotta keep this no
Speaker 1: limit versus starts money ship going to this sucking day.
Speaker 1: I gotta answer for Tiger. We we we we gotta
Speaker 1: answer for all that ship. It's no limit all day
Speaker 1: until we die. Was kind of cash money a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. I don't remember. I don't know he was
Speaker 1: when my rops next coming out. That's not don't I
Speaker 1: don't know about that. But now I would say, um,
Speaker 1: you know what it's got. We wanted to have app
Speaker 1: were close, we close. We was close to it a
Speaker 1: couple of times. I mean, like you know, I usual
Speaker 1: people know each other. I think it's just mutual respect. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, people think that we have a problem with him.
Speaker 1: Who would you work with? Gosh, um is the whole
Speaker 1: roster whatever whatever? Like Jack and I mean Wayne is.
Speaker 1: I just think Wayne is super dope. That'd be good. Um,
Speaker 1: Julie is good. I mean most of them good. Um.
Speaker 1: I would definitely say a Nicki Minaj or Drake or
Speaker 1: something for sure. I mean and I met DrAk Befour
Speaker 1: and it was we could have probably, but I kind
Speaker 1: of gave him just a mutual respect type of thing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't about music when I met him. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of like just Rake, Yeah, just kind of shot.
Speaker 1: Let let me just ask you just um, just like
Speaker 1: spitball them because I'm trying to gass this face between
Speaker 1: you and Julie. Right, So when Julie plays back at
Speaker 1: the ass up, what do you you? I wonta say
Speaker 1: you I got, wont that what you got? You know what?
Speaker 1: It's it's an underground one, but most people know, you know,
Speaker 1: let me hit it, let me hit it, let me
Speaker 1: hit it, Let me hit that every time when but
Speaker 1: he's playing okay girl, consentual with it. Let us hit it,
Speaker 1: let me hit it probably though. That's right though. Okay,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta hear. Okay, okay, okay, we know
Speaker 1: about let me hit it, Let me hit it, let
Speaker 1: me hit it. Ala it already. Come on, I got
Speaker 1: it already. Little you better stop playing with me. You're
Speaker 1: doing with a quick time. We don't so. I want
Speaker 1: to go back to y'all tour with Park right, Any
Speaker 1: any crazy stories, any stories of dealing with I think
Speaker 1: was that the first tour? You know he's on the
Speaker 1: other smaller tour. I think P and C was the
Speaker 1: main ones on that tour. Um. I think I may
Speaker 1: have because I've seen Pocket met him tell him a
Speaker 1: time to a story about the pop where he was
Speaker 1: like a nigg you want to take your ship to
Speaker 1: another level if you get your dicks up in the club.
Speaker 1: Come on, Jack, I ever remember that story? You know coming?
Speaker 1: You told me? I remember. That's good. I don't know
Speaker 1: that story at all. The show story? Do you remember?
Speaker 1: So he's old? You don't remember telling No, I have
Speaker 1: just one Pock story, but it was it was a
Speaker 1: funny story, but it was like I think it was.
Speaker 1: I think it was an E forty video or something
Speaker 1: like that, And I think um because at that time,
Speaker 1: I was like local Underground was really big in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area. Like I was like, I think my first
Speaker 1: song I did it just blew up out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: He was an underground wrap of a folk Underground Wrappers
Speaker 1: was underground round that part too, and that underdund he
Speaker 1: was underground, so we so what he did was I mean,
Speaker 1: I was young. I was heck a young then, but
Speaker 1: but the buzz had kind of got out of like
Speaker 1: this new rap or whatever, blah blah blah, and the
Speaker 1: forty was the first person like really on top of it,
Speaker 1: like it was a shock, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But Eforty and Tupac and everybody was good friends. So
Speaker 1: I they stole his ship like that, giving MS rose
Speaker 1: to see if MS rose. So so he was at
Speaker 1: the video and uh and Pop was actually there and
Speaker 1: I was looking like I was younger too. I was
Speaker 1: looking like I keep looking at me. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: this is crazy, like but I'm not really knowing, like
Speaker 1: what level of park is this like this? When he
Speaker 1: he was, I think so, but I wasn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that type of thing. But I was like I
Speaker 1: was still young in the streets and stuff like you
Speaker 1: don't know who he was. Like, it wasn't like I
Speaker 1: knew of him, but I didn't know the impact he
Speaker 1: had at that time looking at you he was doing,
Speaker 1: he was just he was looking at me. But I
Speaker 1: was more looking like at that time, I was well,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but I was more looking at
Speaker 1: like at that time, if anybody looking at me could
Speaker 1: get it, you know what I'm saying. Like I was
Speaker 1: fresh out whatever, fresh out of chair, fresh out whatever
Speaker 1: I was. I was fresh out whatever I was with
Speaker 1: whatever that time, White teeth and so what happened us?
Speaker 1: But they had I think they was just thought there
Speaker 1: was listening to us together. It was like until Pap
Speaker 1: was listening to it. And you know, like when my
Speaker 1: first time I had first met Drake, I was like
Speaker 1: it was it was first all her own. But I
Speaker 1: was good at knowing music. I'm like, Yo, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be good one day, right, I mean, he's probably
Speaker 1: just blowing up. But I didn't even know it. But
Speaker 1: I listened to music. I'm like whatever. The first um,
Speaker 1: the first album came out was that the mixtape man,
Speaker 1: you know, it was some about Drake was a mix
Speaker 1: tape um. So when I heard I was I was
Speaker 1: jamming his back and forth all everybody in the car
Speaker 1: just jamming his jamming. So when I met him, I
Speaker 1: was like, he made it there yet. But when I
Speaker 1: met him, he was to me, it was like he's
Speaker 1: gonna blow like same thing. I'm not saying, I know
Speaker 1: the talent, but a little baby. I was just like
Speaker 1: first record, second record. I was like, this dude gonna
Speaker 1: be good to keep the essence, you know, just keep
Speaker 1: his ethics up. And so I guess what pop was
Speaker 1: the same thing. It was like he was just jamming
Speaker 1: and listening, saying, okay, dude, got talented. And then I
Speaker 1: walked on the set of the video. But he's looking
Speaker 1: at me like you want to beat me. But you'd
Speaker 1: be like, that's so told my all my records, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, but is mutual, But you'd be like still
Speaker 1: you know. But at the same time, that's what he
Speaker 1: was just looking at me, kept looking down, looking up,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, But then I'll find out later
Speaker 1: that he was just like I just listened to that too.
Speaker 1: That's probably not but it was horrible. But I was
Speaker 1: listening to your music and that's why he was looking
Speaker 1: at it. It was just it was just didn't I
Speaker 1: was just kind of not thinking about it at that time,
Speaker 1: like nobody should be looking at me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's why I feel but a respect part
Speaker 1: of it. It was really dope. Um, but it was
Speaker 1: more of a like a I didn't know how to
Speaker 1: look at that, but it was really him just you
Speaker 1: know kind of s I was young. I was definitely,
Speaker 1: but it was dope. It was like and then we
Speaker 1: met and it was super dope and I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. You actually got to meet too part like
Speaker 1: he was handshake all we did. I did meet him
Speaker 1: later though, at a lot later. Yeah. Sure, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I never got to beat too far. But I know what,
Speaker 1: It's funny though I met a man, I met some people, um,
Speaker 1: and it was it was kind of crazy where um,
Speaker 1: just looking back at it because even like Beyonce, like
Speaker 1: just watching that growth, we was like literally neighbors. They
Speaker 1: actually the song. They came by the house and recorded it. Um,
Speaker 1: you came to your help, not like that stopping. No, No,
Speaker 1: I an't mean like that. We recorded the song the
Speaker 1: first I'm just straighting at the house, the disrespect me
Speaker 1: at the house, no to just be striking me songka.
Speaker 1: Now we're all like everybody know each other. So it
Speaker 1: was good, hey man. But skipping over the Tupoc thing though,
Speaker 1: what you what you were just saying you wan't to
Speaker 1: skip over Tupac. No, no, no, no, I'm not not
Speaker 1: skipping over there. I was just skipping back to it.
Speaker 1: You're saying, yeah, coming back to the Tupoc to Tupop
Speaker 1: thing and whatnot. Um like, did you know that this
Speaker 1: guy was gonna be as big as I feel like?
Speaker 1: That's what you were saying. Like he felt like, I
Speaker 1: think yeah, So in the bed it's a little different. Um.
Speaker 1: They they kind of cater to their own. And then
Speaker 1: I felt like, um, and this is that's Tupac from
Speaker 1: the bed because he was originally yeah, going out when
Speaker 1: I was in Richmond. Richmond is in the bay, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: Richmond in the Bay here for sure. But it's just
Speaker 1: like once again when you see it, because even when
Speaker 1: you go back and look at did you underground? He
Speaker 1: stood out though, you know, he stood out like, oh man,
Speaker 1: this guy and the same thing to me with my
Speaker 1: first record, I stood out so much when you go
Speaker 1: back listen to it. I think it was I gotta
Speaker 1: see what the song was. But I was just raw
Speaker 1: and I and everybody knew it. And so we do
Speaker 1: fast forward and you tell yourself like, oh, it's consistent
Speaker 1: of probably being more before my time. And I never
Speaker 1: really wrote songs though, so I just kind of freestyle everything.
Speaker 1: I rarely wrote. If I wrote to him, I just
Speaker 1: wrote like one word, one world, like cat had sacked
Speaker 1: whatever like that and everything else I put in myself.
Speaker 1: Would that mean I got my two pop in my
Speaker 1: real two pop? Question? Now the way Tupop went over
Speaker 1: to the West coast and got the recognition that he deserved, right,
Speaker 1: and you use inside you know, Yo also nowhere from
Speaker 1: the n O E A fan. You know you were
Speaker 1: originally from him, right, I'm originally born in the lab
Speaker 1: but raising man, so you you go to this this
Speaker 1: foreign land, this foreign land, and you get more respect
Speaker 1: than you did saying we're talking about because Pot made
Speaker 1: his chops in the Bay Area right on the west
Speaker 1: He's really like coastal in reality. Question. But people that
Speaker 1: people from New York like you get they constantly say
Speaker 1: to Yo, he turned his back on New York and
Speaker 1: whatnot f tupocket that it's biggie all the way. But
Speaker 1: if you ain't, if you if you ain't getting it
Speaker 1: at home and you go abroad, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 1: And Northy you mean you had to come plendy conversations
Speaker 1: where you get booked. You inside of your early career
Speaker 1: in different spots. You even talking about the Puerto Rican
Speaker 1: era of all out of the Spanish area. Spanish the
Speaker 1: whole Spanish areas don't even know used to go to
Speaker 1: New Orleans so much because people just think that it's
Speaker 1: just creole and French and all that. Some of the
Speaker 1: motherfucker's Latinos and as they get booked so much. That's
Speaker 1: that's how I discovered, Like, that's how I discovered all
Speaker 1: of that music. Was what's going there? And first of
Speaker 1: they got great the greatest cuisine in the world, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And but what there's a ghetto everywhere
Speaker 1: in the world. And that ship is like when you
Speaker 1: enter that that ship is just just just the eli
Speaker 1: ship in the world. But is there anything wrong we're
Speaker 1: going to? Where it? Is it? When you you're you're
Speaker 1: celebrated like you do on drink Chat, you go when
Speaker 1: you celebrated. I think, Jack, I think you're confusing it
Speaker 1: because he gave his music career started on the West Coast.
Speaker 1: He started the only thing apply he was a young
Speaker 1: kid dancing for Digital Underground in the Bay. Time he
Speaker 1: went back to the coast, he was already like almost
Speaker 1: a grown man. I'm told about when he went back back,
Speaker 1: like you know what after after really was the East
Speaker 1: Coast that raised them, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: you know New York and bought them. But that ain't
Speaker 1: wrong on when you celebrated and don't go when you tolerateed.
Speaker 1: I just think he's from all those areas. Man, I
Speaker 1: think he just he did so much in so many places.
Speaker 1: I don't think he felt like he was from one
Speaker 1: place together. You know That's why I can't you can
Speaker 1: cold him at the end for it, because when he
Speaker 1: was just repping the West Coast in California, love and
Speaker 1: all that, they out of jail. Okay, help me help me.
Speaker 1: Million got him out. I mean, nobody's can get understand psychologically.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna help you understand. This is a record where
Speaker 1: Tupac has this ship. There ain't nothing like the old school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what more can I say? I wouldn't be here today
Speaker 1: if the old school didn't pay the way on that record.
Speaker 1: The ship that Tupac said, you cannot make this record
Speaker 1: if you ain't from New York. You cannot make this record.
Speaker 1: If you're not from the East Coast, the Skelly, the
Speaker 1: Double Dutch, the ice Cream Man, the Whoop Tank Clan,
Speaker 1: the all the ship that he named, you could not
Speaker 1: make this record. I don't give a funk. You've been
Speaker 1: living living in New York for ten years. You can't
Speaker 1: make this record. I don't give a funk how long
Speaker 1: you lived there. That means Pop was born and raised,
Speaker 1: his roots was there. But what this would make. This
Speaker 1: would make him an ill motherfucker. You also can't make
Speaker 1: California love same like you have to be from California
Speaker 1: when you're talking about it wouldn't be l A without
Speaker 1: Mexic kids and all this crazy ship. You gotta really
Speaker 1: be from California to make both of those records. So
Speaker 1: I would agree to disagree, to agree to disagree on
Speaker 1: this level and say he was a chameleon. He was.
Speaker 1: Artists can marry me artists the artist is contradictory. That's
Speaker 1: just one part of it. A chameleon is somewhere he
Speaker 1: could just blend into. You understand, I'm saying he already
Speaker 1: had roots in these places. Man, I could go were
Speaker 1: born in l A, raised in Miami. I feel both places,
Speaker 1: you know, and I would go away with Nori and
Speaker 1: as well saying I think that it was good for
Speaker 1: every body that he was a chameleon. And I think
Speaker 1: and I think it was good, like you said, being
Speaker 1: able to be both right, because we just got to
Speaker 1: accept and appreciate what it is and say we're glad
Speaker 1: he was born in East Coast where he's on this
Speaker 1: coach for a while, because you gott think about us too.
Speaker 1: We got love for both of them. Both of us
Speaker 1: made us and and it's and both of them could
Speaker 1: appreciate us. And I think with pop Um he should
Speaker 1: be celebrated, appreciated like even if guess what even from
Speaker 1: the South, if you have a visit to South, he
Speaker 1: left the imprint on the South. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I guess he shot the police the South to be
Speaker 1: the South was friend that he did at all in
Speaker 1: twenty six years. In six years. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: if you don't attach biggie to toothpower because Spiky still
Speaker 1: have the same lot. You're going somewhere that you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna do really quick. I want to say, I think
Speaker 1: we underestimate the idea that we were all older now.
Speaker 1: But everything that Park went through, he was a young man.
Speaker 1: Like we're trying to put like an older mentality on
Speaker 1: this young kid that was doing all this stuff, like
Speaker 1: come on, young kids don't do that day. Young kids
Speaker 1: don't do this these days. And like a lot of
Speaker 1: mature ship, they don't feel an immature person because of
Speaker 1: his age. They don't do it twenty years ago. I
Speaker 1: want that level, I would say, And I'm glad we
Speaker 1: have a conversation because you just nailed it. Um you
Speaker 1: And I tell people because a lot of young people
Speaker 1: listen to me sometime a lot of old people listen
Speaker 1: to me. Sometimes you dont want to, but they listen
Speaker 1: to you. But what I'm saying is what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is nor is that I was like a multi mellion.
Speaker 1: They're like very young, right, so so you know so
Speaker 1: so you. But what I'm saying is it kind of
Speaker 1: how you matured that so you got these young dudes.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for him. Um, they're good people, right,
Speaker 1: they're good dude, But what I mean they've got people
Speaker 1: fifteen and getting juven out like like life, like they
Speaker 1: do something right, boom they out of here, and we
Speaker 1: know fifteen or was he was using food? We don't
Speaker 1: know nothing right, and so I feel bad and like
Speaker 1: he's saying a valid point to be pock was to
Speaker 1: be like very immature and take on very mature things
Speaker 1: that was happening around him like that, even that was
Speaker 1: unseen and hip hop at that point, how can you
Speaker 1: get us up? No? But no, but this is this
Speaker 1: is this is value. But this is value because I
Speaker 1: want to say this because the next they have a
Speaker 1: lot of pops out there and they rebels with the
Speaker 1: without the cause, right, So it can't be straights, it
Speaker 1: can't be this. It gotta be a valuable Pop was
Speaker 1: literally fighting for the values of He kind of figured
Speaker 1: something's gonna happen to him. He's fighting for the values
Speaker 1: of the next loriaga, you know what saying the next
Speaker 1: hilver next like, because you think nobody's given us them bills,
Speaker 1: nobody's helping us out of the streets. If you somebody
Speaker 1: from the streets, a right where if you got lucky,
Speaker 1: you you didn't get gunned down, you didn't get life
Speaker 1: in prison, like you know, like whatever. So what you're
Speaker 1: saying is more of how can we appreciate somebody having
Speaker 1: that much on the show them that's a one was around,
Speaker 1: he was already wealthy, trying to figure out jail. He
Speaker 1: got the great kids. All these cases like I don't know,
Speaker 1: true or false, but that's a lot for somebody who
Speaker 1: is that big of an influence to all of us.
Speaker 1: And I know because I was young and people was
Speaker 1: depending on me, but I didn't know any better. I'm
Speaker 1: just doing throwing money where I'm buying cars the same color,
Speaker 1: I'm just buying house like I'm just doing stuff but
Speaker 1: normally yeah, yeah, I bought to Ferrari is the same
Speaker 1: color making model right for just no reason, just like
Speaker 1: because I because ita but but I can't do it.
Speaker 1: But no, I'm saying you could do it if you know,
Speaker 1: if you like. Okay, here's the thing about me, this
Speaker 1: thing about me, how I was doing. So you say
Speaker 1: I'm humble. I think I got a good heart. I
Speaker 1: think I want to help people, all right, But but
Speaker 1: what I what I would do nor the catch and
Speaker 1: you I'm glad you brought this up once again. The
Speaker 1: amount of pressure on somebody who's at my age to
Speaker 1: try to figure it out. So when I wake up
Speaker 1: in the morning, I got five people at my door
Speaker 1: and I'm we're going to the mall they went to.
Speaker 1: We went to the mall ten days in a row
Speaker 1: north and guess where everybody got changed? Rolex Is bracelets
Speaker 1: right said they knew to come to my house. And
Speaker 1: when I go to the mall, I'm just getting everybody this,
Speaker 1: or you want to car X facts. I got Max,
Speaker 1: my friend X help whatever. It's like, I would leave
Speaker 1: cars at the um the airport for like seven months
Speaker 1: or whatever. But but what but what it's not about that.
Speaker 1: What it's about is my ability to to realize I
Speaker 1: have everything or I'm thinking I know everything and don't
Speaker 1: know nothing. But watch this. Your friendships are not your
Speaker 1: friendships because it's based on money. The girls could be
Speaker 1: your girls, but based on money. They of course, I'm
Speaker 1: a likable guy and my friends really want to hang
Speaker 1: out with me, But but they also do want to
Speaker 1: hang out and get an extra bag, right, And and
Speaker 1: what about pac being somebody who is the only person
Speaker 1: in his his circle, that's getting a bag, but having
Speaker 1: the the responsibility or of changing people lives and they're
Speaker 1: not technically um in the same um mind state is
Speaker 1: him because he's literally taking up taking a beating for
Speaker 1: all of us at that time, I remember clear as
Speaker 1: day and I'm like, damn, you're just taking these and
Speaker 1: but I learned from it though, and I know that
Speaker 1: that feeling because I'm telling you it was a NonStop thing.
Speaker 1: I don't care people know me, No, I don't care
Speaker 1: about materialistic, no money. I really care about doing it.
Speaker 1: But at the time I don't think people care. I
Speaker 1: think that it was they like me. But also I'm
Speaker 1: getting up to wake up to say we'll still get
Speaker 1: them hit them all. I'm getting something too. So how
Speaker 1: do you balance it two and Pop saying themselves, I'm Pop,
Speaker 1: I'm fighting for y'all, but y'all fighting, are y'all fighting?
Speaker 1: And for me as well? And I think the crazy
Speaker 1: part is it now in retrospect, we look at clips,
Speaker 1: you know, they put out clips up that show a
Speaker 1: hypocrisy and him to show like like he was. And
Speaker 1: that's what when he said artists so sorry, that's why
Speaker 1: he said artists I said, artists is contradicting all contract Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think even more so, like the things, the
Speaker 1: great things he was doing was so great that to
Speaker 1: show these clips now him being his age, it's not fair,
Speaker 1: you know, because we're all looking at it in this
Speaker 1: different scope where he's not here today to see what
Speaker 1: he would have evolved in you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and whatever you said right there, Like I've seen reputable people,
Speaker 1: people that are relevant say that you know, Pap was
Speaker 1: a fake gangster and that that this old dumb ship
Speaker 1: and there's things that pops were doing that regular gangsters
Speaker 1: would never fucking shot the police. But he shot the police.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a police in respect he but he
Speaker 1: stood up and he saw somebody, He saw somebody. How
Speaker 1: many of us would do that? Hey once again, and
Speaker 1: even even on the West coast east in the side
Speaker 1: some gangster ship. He didn't have to chick the boy
Speaker 1: when my taxif you don't have to do that, it's
Speaker 1: plenty their negs to kick the boy he did. That
Speaker 1: ship's texts to be acting like they in the fight
Speaker 1: that ain't in the fight. That when they got caught
Speaker 1: on camera running around the ship. This you know, faking
Speaker 1: the fault. He didn't do that. He was a big
Speaker 1: megastar at the time. How can you fake being Tupac
Speaker 1: in twenty six years and this motherfucker's ain't did none
Speaker 1: of that real ship and he was born into it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't about it wasn't about publicity. It wasn't about
Speaker 1: uh some media bliss and none of that ship. It
Speaker 1: was organic, it wasn't. He was so passionate. How the
Speaker 1: fund can you say Tupac is faith? How everything he
Speaker 1: did was from his heart and he was alone, like
Speaker 1: even in my old lady she tell me the story
Speaker 1: where she was in the building, then in inside quiet studio,
Speaker 1: then he got shot. It's w B was there. They
Speaker 1: were there, you know. And when he comes down and
Speaker 1: and you see his boys that was invited him there,
Speaker 1: invited him there and whatnot. But then you don't say
Speaker 1: nothing about you know, who's what it got something to
Speaker 1: do with what And then he goes on to somewhere
Speaker 1: else and whatnot. And then come on, New York know everything.
Speaker 1: And if you're really my friend, if you tell me,
Speaker 1: tell me New York leaguer, just tell me it's not true.
Speaker 1: Why Yig had nothing to do. I ain't say you
Speaker 1: got nothing to do, but tell me that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Tell you know what I'm saying. Tell me it's nothing
Speaker 1: to tell out this happens. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I mean, I respect that opinion, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't debate any of that. I would just celebrated,
Speaker 1: well because I don't know it. I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't determine the stories like I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear what people say about it. I stay,
Speaker 1: I stay neutral in it. But I just respect the
Speaker 1: art form of a biggie or a pop. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: really want to divulge into anything like that. But I
Speaker 1: want to tell you that I don't think I've really
Speaker 1: met biggie, but I met big I never met Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so it's me and you're the honesty. No, I'm not,
Speaker 1: I'm just I know. I'm that's even better than I
Speaker 1: New York sucking your ship up right now, not at all.
Speaker 1: I ain't nobody game, none of that ship. I ain't
Speaker 1: no gang. I'm the mother. But if you come to
Speaker 1: Atlanta and something happens to you, and I'm your boy
Speaker 1: and whatnot? You you trusted I know somebody to know,
Speaker 1: somebody to know something. What happened right now? I know
Speaker 1: you're not a street niggers. I'm not trusting you at
Speaker 1: only good right now. That feels good. But yeah, why
Speaker 1: the hapt whatever today? I need to put my charge
Speaker 1: away and my gum and all that other ship. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying shows that i'm saying out of line. I
Speaker 1: don't just need to bring up the quid. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: you doing? But I get it. I get it. I
Speaker 1: see you looking what you're looking at. You got a
Speaker 1: lie we personally be doing and the sport is fun yo,
Speaker 1: it's not funny. We'll just turned up the gudiences out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't want you good. We're very secure over here.
Speaker 1: Who are you talking to this? I'm talking to the camel.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Journey. Funny, I'm talking to Journey. He's
Speaker 1: looking at the camera. We're looking at Sunny D's like, now, yeah,
Speaker 1: hit me, hit me, I got much we back out.
Speaker 1: You ain't got long we're going. I'm COMMI I don't
Speaker 1: want to shuff out with this bullshit. So rock baby,
Speaker 1: But you gotta worry about the fifty six seeing you're
Speaker 1: drinking that Rick Ross ship. Right, No, no, no, right
Speaker 1: this ship out, keep your winding like thirst to come on, man,
Speaker 1: I'm thirsty, thirsty. You know you want to go to
Speaker 1: Rick Ross's house too. You know, I don't know who
Speaker 1: I was there when it was holding for your house.
Speaker 1: I've never fault. I don't don't go anyway to it.
Speaker 1: It's a holy okay, A little bit more sweas it
Speaker 1: has been a big ross. When you know you want
Speaker 1: to the Ross house. I want to go out. It
Speaker 1: was having a good time, but her on that. So
Speaker 1: I don't keep working around like roster. It's a lot.
Speaker 1: There's lot different from holds him but everybody to me,
Speaker 1: to anybody, everybody mean. But it was kind like I
Speaker 1: had to man, I did. We're all blue, I have it,
Speaker 1: damn shot the shout out what you're talking about. But
Speaker 1: so let's get down to a serious note. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I did me uh c burder. He actually did invite
Speaker 1: me to the apartment, and I thought he was playing
Speaker 1: around like he was like yeah, I thought he's playing
Speaker 1: around until he actually cocked up and then they showed
Speaker 1: me the pot. This I was like, oh, ship, I
Speaker 1: was really gonna go there, like and you know, ah, no,
Speaker 1: going to the hood is nothing right in thehing. We
Speaker 1: can go to any practice we want to. But when
Speaker 1: you go to the with another famous dude that really
Speaker 1: is set up in the hood. Yeah, that's like was
Speaker 1: that a problem for for you and p because, um, like,
Speaker 1: I mean this one thing to be an attached to
Speaker 1: the hood and living in the hood is something totally
Speaker 1: good man. I think he has a man like he
Speaker 1: clearly has a MTV cre for sure, for sure had
Speaker 1: a whole nother crew. Was that like something you talked about?
Speaker 1: What the thing about it is? They in his in
Speaker 1: our hood whatever, they love him, love him love like
Speaker 1: nothing would happen so uncomfortable. He felt very comfortable, I think.
Speaker 1: But all the time he stayed there. Um, I don't
Speaker 1: know about the water bab, but I listen, I scored
Speaker 1: to the New Orleans and to hang out with him.
Speaker 1: He's always something let's go, let's go to my partner
Speaker 1: in the hood. I thought he was playing. I did
Speaker 1: not know what he was said. But but no, but
Speaker 1: so so what it is is that the whole hood
Speaker 1: loved him. He felt the love it was good to
Speaker 1: be a part of the love. You know, you feel
Speaker 1: that way some time, you know, you go where you like,
Speaker 1: like Norris says, celebrated, not tolerated, and so, um, that's
Speaker 1: why he felt the most comfortable. That the only problem
Speaker 1: is with the hood is that it's the hood, and
Speaker 1: eventually it turns on you. It turns on you. It
Speaker 1: could be one turn. That's always takes one turn. And
Speaker 1: I think that majority of people, but you still got
Speaker 1: up and coming dudes, you say, you know you're so
Speaker 1: I was. I was more worried about that, not worried
Speaker 1: about that he lived at just the turn of the circle.
Speaker 1: To me, like fifty people like you than forty nine,
Speaker 1: Like he's only one not like you. That's it, that's it,
Speaker 1: you know. So I felt like that was when I
Speaker 1: thought about him living there. I thought about the how
Speaker 1: the hood works where they never actually never got sorry.
Speaker 1: But he actually never got in trouble in there. He
Speaker 1: got in trouble when he left the hood. Pretty much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he was comfortable there. Um, and I think
Speaker 1: that they they would do anything for him, Um, but
Speaker 1: I think it's just I didn't take a charge for him,
Speaker 1: Like even in the documentary. Even in the documentary, they
Speaker 1: got girls ever saying what he's from us, he's what
Speaker 1: us like, and you're just looking and you're just seeing
Speaker 1: the people, and you could tell like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a hood dude, like I brought the offend with yeah
Speaker 1: to the hood, Like so what I'm trying to tell you,
Speaker 1: I'm a real personal from the hood. And then when
Speaker 1: I saw that, and I was like, damn, he might
Speaker 1: be even realer than me, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And that's good. That's good for me to say that
Speaker 1: because I'm like when I seen how the people were told,
Speaker 1: because it's one thing for show things for certain O
Speaker 1: G had told me this one time. I kept coming
Speaker 1: to the hood in the projects and parking on the avenue,
Speaker 1: and when I would park on the avenue, I don't
Speaker 1: know one would touch my car. But the O G
Speaker 1: said to me, Yo, man, park on the outskirts from
Speaker 1: now on. So I said, no, park on the outskirts.
Speaker 1: Don't park in front the hood, because what happens is
Speaker 1: everyone comes outside of the projects and they want to
Speaker 1: show off. For me, I'm the one that made it.
Speaker 1: That's not a sucker. That's still coming back out. But
Speaker 1: so as they're coming out as soon as I leave,
Speaker 1: they're getting in the shootouts because I'm bringing them all out.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing them all out. I'm not I'm not even
Speaker 1: knowing that because but just of people together, because everyone,
Speaker 1: because everyone from every side. I got love for me,
Speaker 1: even if he was shooting at me before I was
Speaker 1: shooting at them. Like now that they know, I'm gonna gip,
Speaker 1: everyone's coming out whatever. And I didn't know what I
Speaker 1: was doing. So every time I left, there would be
Speaker 1: some ship that happened. So I started to realize I
Speaker 1: had to humble myself. So I would come and bring
Speaker 1: my If I broke two cars on a pocket, you
Speaker 1: know by the mall, have a little motherfucker come see
Speaker 1: me with his bike, give him moiftys or something like that.
Speaker 1: And I'm driving, I'm walking through the hood with the
Speaker 1: bike on, and it leveled me out. But on C ship,
Speaker 1: C was like never left, like like like the closest
Speaker 1: thing I see to C murder is Jungle. I said.
Speaker 1: I mentioned him earlier. Jungle um from NA from QB Jungle. Damn.
Speaker 1: They had an apartment in QB two car type. No,
Speaker 1: he wasn't selling drugs. He no, I didn't say that
Speaker 1: no card means drugs to loving the hood to like
Speaker 1: he love it. He has no jungle, he said, he
Speaker 1: has loving the hood, but not like I see C
Speaker 1: murder like you know, oh, and you know what it
Speaker 1: was too. I thought that as much as it was
Speaker 1: kind of a bad idea for him to be in
Speaker 1: the hood, it was also a middle grounds because no
Speaker 1: one can never say P silk. They too holly like
Speaker 1: it anchored, they stilled it. What the main brother those
Speaker 1: are the three you know what. That's why when y'all
Speaker 1: bent shed out of their five or four boys, which
Speaker 1: I want to get back into for a little while later,
Speaker 1: but that was the three main brothers. I felt like
Speaker 1: P after everyone left him and he was like, I'm
Speaker 1: sticking with my brothers. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: same mother and fathers right, so um so so what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that. I thought that was the middle ground always.
Speaker 1: I thought that was the way that the hood would
Speaker 1: never flip on y'all, because it's like C was there,
Speaker 1: like C C had us like they couldn't get that silk,
Speaker 1: They couldn't get that P. But you could literally see
Speaker 1: C murder go and pick up as mail. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's funny. That's real ship. Like, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: This is how you know he's a real dude. Every
Speaker 1: time I see murder, all of us, you know, what's up?
Speaker 1: What's yea? It was never no no gas ship, never
Speaker 1: none of this ship that the people describe. Always a
Speaker 1: real respect. Last time you focused murder, I just talked
Speaker 1: to him maybe, um, like four or five days ago,
Speaker 1: three or four days ago. Yeah, yeah, he, um, he was.
Speaker 1: He's working on his case stuff, so he's kind of
Speaker 1: like been locked in. But yeah, you know, he has
Speaker 1: a number called a lot of time, so um, you know,
Speaker 1: the JP thing is always working. So yeah, but we're
Speaker 1: more for support, like I just like the problem might say,
Speaker 1: was more of um that he's innocent though, So I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he I'm not saying like, okay, yeah he
Speaker 1: you know, because he's not old. No, no, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about I'm talking about my old footage against him, meaning, um,
Speaker 1: there was other footage of some incident that happened a
Speaker 1: different clubs, and they're using that. It's just because because
Speaker 1: even the security guard said that he was under pressure
Speaker 1: when he said that murdered. Did it so? Yeah? So good?
Speaker 1: Well No, The crazy part is I know the facts. Listen,
Speaker 1: I know the facts. I got all the paperwork, um like.
Speaker 1: And the crazy part is that he's really innocent of
Speaker 1: the crime. Like I'm saying like, no, you got so
Speaker 1: he's really so imagine that. So as a brother, it's
Speaker 1: more like, um um, it's one of the worst things
Speaker 1: when because we're gonna wrap our brothers no matter what.
Speaker 1: Like if your brother did something, You're like, oh, he
Speaker 1: did it, but I'm going to him every month, I'm
Speaker 1: going to put money on his books. But it's probably
Speaker 1: the worst feeling when an innocent so because me I'll
Speaker 1: be like, yo, bro, you did the stuff. You gotta
Speaker 1: do the crime, do the time. But it's hard when
Speaker 1: um so, I never really us about anything, and so
Speaker 1: I'm always trying to have a good time, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: I feel good about pretty much anything. But then that
Speaker 1: part of it is one of the It always drop
Speaker 1: you down a couple of notches. You could be parting
Speaker 1: in Jamaica having fun and just like we're seeing jail
Speaker 1: you know because I and let me say, you're not
Speaker 1: going So the crazy part that's why I hope you
Speaker 1: come home soon. Um. The crazy part is, uh, if
Speaker 1: you visit your brother and you leave to go home,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And he's better than the jungle.
Speaker 1: So he's you know, he's at goal or whatever he's
Speaker 1: at leaving and somebody innocent like that is as it's
Speaker 1: really a mine thing. So I think that's almost like
Speaker 1: because I lost my mother brother too, but he got
Speaker 1: killed and you know, and that that was like a boom.
Speaker 1: I think I might share one tier. And I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not in here, you know what I'm saying, But
Speaker 1: I got it. But that's when it's like a lingering thing.
Speaker 1: So I just want to see him, you know, out
Speaker 1: of you know, out of what is it in Louisiana?
Speaker 1: I think, uh they say something that you can't reverse
Speaker 1: the law once um you're convicted even like something like that,
Speaker 1: Um what not even that? I think it's like so
Speaker 1: when you think of Louisiana, um, you think of like
Speaker 1: so if you go to Angle the prison, they still
Speaker 1: on horses with shotguns. So it's it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: the South right still they say it again, you go
Speaker 1: to sal and they're still on horses with really they
Speaker 1: their hat on there. They like, yeah, in that prison
Speaker 1: when he was at that that's the one. So it's
Speaker 1: like and they're still work in the field, like they're
Speaker 1: working the field, they building stuff. So with that prison
Speaker 1: more is um. It's um. It's really a workplace. So
Speaker 1: they're trying to keep the prison's pack um because they
Speaker 1: get the best work. Got me, I've seen some stuff.
Speaker 1: They probably made this table, you know whatever, and um.
Speaker 1: So that's a system for them. And it's a way.
Speaker 1: Because I was younger, I used to realize, like I
Speaker 1: had a guy, you know, he like little John whatever
Speaker 1: not the rap John looks on, but so so he
Speaker 1: he was like a good guy and you know he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: he shot and killed a shot of the cop or whatever, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this guy would never do that. Thirty
Speaker 1: years he out of here and you know, public spend.
Speaker 1: He gone, but straight and gola. Right. So now he's
Speaker 1: a worker. They don't want the workers that's like four years,
Speaker 1: three years. Got to train them too hard. So it's
Speaker 1: a system for them. I get it, um. But but
Speaker 1: it was they was doing it way back then, and
Speaker 1: it was like but we was younger, so it was like,
Speaker 1: oh not not saying you Let's say somebody took him
Speaker 1: off the treety out of here, mom, you know crime whatever,
Speaker 1: thirty years go by, boom is through it again, do
Speaker 1: it again. And so to me, that's the system at
Speaker 1: they ends. I feel bad for any parent or anybody
Speaker 1: who because a lot of them that's not doing it.
Speaker 1: Course something guilty on super but a lot of them not.
Speaker 1: And so um that was that's the only thing about it.
Speaker 1: It's like if he was guilty, I'll be like, you
Speaker 1: gotta do the time. You know, we out of here.
Speaker 1: But it's not like you guys don't have the resources
Speaker 1: for which is crazy. You know, they they system it's
Speaker 1: too big. They won't break it because then that that's
Speaker 1: gonna break those systems. But I think he is gonna
Speaker 1: come home, and I think he is going to break
Speaker 1: the system because it's it's loosen enough and now a
Speaker 1: little bit um the people who who's at the top,
Speaker 1: who's like those real strong which you're like, you know
Speaker 1: there the ones like now you're getting some people in
Speaker 1: there that who's like but back then it's just like boy,
Speaker 1: you you know that's got some old school Jim Crow
Speaker 1: motherfucker's in there, and let's talk about how does he
Speaker 1: bought the projects? Though? Right? Yeah, it's it's so it's
Speaker 1: not a money thing at all. Um, I want people
Speaker 1: to be like, oh he could do this, Um, your
Speaker 1: wi the we own them, real people on them really hard,
Speaker 1: Like you're not helping your brother, like when you gave
Speaker 1: up on your brother and whatnot. Can you clear up
Speaker 1: from your mouth? I mean he kind of did. He
Speaker 1: said that it's a system that it's it's not come from.
Speaker 1: I mean, I listen, everybody, we could all say we
Speaker 1: could do we could be money on the quarterback, and
Speaker 1: we all have to do more. I could do more, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you really are gonna have to fight.
Speaker 1: Um Like even Kim, like she's trying to do it.
Speaker 1: She's trying to do it like they this is behind
Speaker 1: she's close because she's trying to that. Yeah yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: I heard that. But I just that's great to hear.
Speaker 1: I'm listening. I have to get out. I'm just want
Speaker 1: to get out. But I mean, um, you know, it's
Speaker 1: she's taking a different angle than we probably could take.
Speaker 1: She has like some stuff in her back pocket. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be hard on p in that situation because
Speaker 1: he's done a lot. Of course, all of us just
Speaker 1: can try to do more. But also you gotta think too,
Speaker 1: it's got to be done a correct way because you
Speaker 1: think about this, No, not even that part. We could
Speaker 1: come hard. But he's still in jail though, so you
Speaker 1: know that the systems work together. The police worked with
Speaker 1: the So I only I don't think he's worried about that.
Speaker 1: I just think that, um, we're just trying to find
Speaker 1: a happy medium. Um, we're going. We went hard on him,
Speaker 1: a hard heart heart, and we was right there. It
Speaker 1: was close, and then last minute they just they stuck
Speaker 1: to their guns. Where we can't let y'all winners because
Speaker 1: the system. We can't break the system because it's been
Speaker 1: this way. How long he's been in there right now years, yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. So it's nuts, it's it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And then when you watch the documentary and you see
Speaker 1: Pee's emotions in the side of it and how he's
Speaker 1: I've been here the whole time. I've been here the
Speaker 1: whole time, y'all don't know what it's like to be
Speaker 1: inside of this position and being the head because, like
Speaker 1: you said, if He's the icon in the situation, so
Speaker 1: it seemed like he could just just waving one and
Speaker 1: it ship should be eradicated because of his status. Like
Speaker 1: tip lifted, lift take the pressure off of pe Nick
Speaker 1: right now. I just say, you know, I said, it's
Speaker 1: like say, I mean you can't. I mean, like like listen,
Speaker 1: I would say myself personally, I could say, just money
Speaker 1: on the quarterback? Could I do stuff differently? Can I
Speaker 1: do more? You can? But at the same time, that's
Speaker 1: not that's not his fight, like that, He's done a
Speaker 1: lot to really help him out. The system is just
Speaker 1: really it's a system that don't want to be broken
Speaker 1: right now because if they break, they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: break for all these other cases. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. They know, okay, it could probably break,
Speaker 1: it's gonna break, but they hold in tight because if
Speaker 1: this breaks, is going to crack the whole system. And
Speaker 1: but it's going to break. It always does. Um it's
Speaker 1: I think in case like hands is gonna do it.
Speaker 1: We just gotta rally a little bit more and be
Speaker 1: ready to because they softening up. They they the system
Speaker 1: has turned around because I think right now he's in jail.
Speaker 1: You know the ten two rule. So the ten two
Speaker 1: rule is it's got to be unanimous. Everywhere in the
Speaker 1: world it's unanimous except except for all meaning, um, the
Speaker 1: jury has to all twelve of them have to vote.
Speaker 1: But in New Orleans, it could be a ten Louisiana.
Speaker 1: It could be so it could be tender, and it
Speaker 1: could be two people that says no, and you and
Speaker 1: you're still You're still You're still going in there. So
Speaker 1: that's crazy, that's pretty murder. It starts right here, right now,
Speaker 1: New yamp let's go Brigstown. Yeah, yeah, it's corruption going on. Hey,
Speaker 1: and we won't stand for it no more. We won't
Speaker 1: free my nigger camera, look at the yeah, free see murder.
Speaker 1: I beat you. You want to take a bathroom break?
Speaker 1: Now is the time? Okay, Yeah, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Keep going. I'm on the court the tank right now,
Speaker 1: clear nory glasses one, come on, come on, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna beating them all the time, right now, so
Speaker 1: tell us what you're doing now? You producing movies? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm about having the movie stuff now. Okay, so what
Speaker 1: made you do to that? I did it before it
Speaker 1: like I didn't one with him. I'm doing um man,
Speaker 1: I had a part like it was like very to
Speaker 1: the post. But then mother, it was pretty good that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was pretty good, like hey, don't go in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah he got a little Yeah, he was like, great,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be the motherfucker movie and making that. He
Speaker 1: knows how to field you up and make you feel
Speaker 1: you know what I am in. So this this exclusively
Speaker 1: right now. I'm working on writing the uh like a
Speaker 1: no limit project. But I'm also writing so by time
Speaker 1: writing hot Boys too. So we're going right now. We're
Speaker 1: right now. So who I'm gonna be in it? I
Speaker 1: got some it's gonna be dope. It's it's gonna be
Speaker 1: kind of redirected with the new stuff that's happened. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be in it. You're gonn definitely be in it
Speaker 1: for show, but I'm not gonna I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: get Now I'm annoying, but I'm just gonna say you're
Speaker 1: doing I said, I'm listening. No, I'm gonna get you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get some. Will you know some fucking I
Speaker 1: don't know about the give me some. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. Come let me somebody. We're still
Speaker 1: working on my body. I look good on cameras, you
Speaker 1: fucking kid. I can't get you a part in the movie.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't guarantee you the roll. I can't
Speaker 1: guarantee you can't get me an your movie. You minute
Speaker 1: don't have to make sense right, you don't want to
Speaker 1: body just randomly ston like, don't want to be You
Speaker 1: don't gonna be a stuple. I'll be a supporting fucking bro.
Speaker 1: But we might have a supporting Celemsson is question? All right? Cameron?
Speaker 1: Pay them for? You know? Was he the start in
Speaker 1: the movie? No? Not really, but it became a start
Speaker 1: in the movie. Yo, pay them for? Nor was he
Speaker 1: the start in the movie? Remember the roll? Canna know
Speaker 1: what kind of can roll as big as Norties was
Speaker 1: in this ship's roll? They didn't pay them for. I
Speaker 1: want some ship like No, I got twelve seconds. I
Speaker 1: needed to seconds, so sucking something. I can almost guarantee
Speaker 1: you to our seconds. I just can't guarantee up, give
Speaker 1: me give me some money, like Nor negotiated to our
Speaker 1: second place shows a second second. So, so, what's what's
Speaker 1: your favorite era of No Limit? I usually ask people
Speaker 1: what's the favorite era of music? I just want to
Speaker 1: say your favorite area of no limits? Like yours person,
Speaker 1: I would say Snoop coming to No Limits. Yeah it
Speaker 1: was because we watched them, but I'm sure you probably
Speaker 1: know Snoop. So Snoop is like the ultimate loyal like
Speaker 1: cool really somebody who like it. It's always the same
Speaker 1: like if he Rocket Rockership, he doesn't, He's like whatever.
Speaker 1: But me and him he had to buyd because he
Speaker 1: was staying at my house. He would come over. He
Speaker 1: would like, we would chop it up. We would go
Speaker 1: to places and he was just consistently. We did a
Speaker 1: lot of music other but we just was more like, um,
Speaker 1: I've really really have seen people that um embraced it,
Speaker 1: UM bought into it and then would listen like he
Speaker 1: would like tell you stuff, but he would also listen
Speaker 1: and still remain humble. But also even to this day,
Speaker 1: it's like what's something new for you? Is like you
Speaker 1: know it's that and I was up and it's like
Speaker 1: that still thing and he never really changed up. I
Speaker 1: thought that was and he was a superstar too, and
Speaker 1: it was good that it was good because we was good,
Speaker 1: but to help him get back to where he wanted
Speaker 1: to be at because when we came to us, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say he was still Snoop, but he was just
Speaker 1: questioning Snoop, you know, and and that and as an artist,
Speaker 1: you know we you you questioned how good? Like I
Speaker 1: never really questioned, like my talent. But if somebody saying,
Speaker 1: oh you all beat, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: I'm record people love going crazy not to come in.
Speaker 1: But so he he got it back. To watch him
Speaker 1: get it back. He was walking at first. He was
Speaker 1: like trying to figure it out and he was smiling,
Speaker 1: running around bad Ruge like drop topic. Yeah, he was chilling. Man.
Speaker 1: He got his house there, he was coming out with
Speaker 1: his slippers like I'm watching it. He don't know it,
Speaker 1: but I'm watching it, and I'm like wow. Because when
Speaker 1: he first got there, you could see the wasn't that
Speaker 1: confidence he was He was like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm Snoop though, you know, like he knew it, but
Speaker 1: he was. But when Tommy got in that studio and
Speaker 1: making like I think he made after my you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He was like he got it back.
Speaker 1: He was walking around then. I think that's when he
Speaker 1: was ready to say I got to go back home,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, to the West Coast and
Speaker 1: and step into that my faith. And it was it
Speaker 1: was dope to to watch him kind of filled with
Speaker 1: his chest out like yeah, I'm going back and take
Speaker 1: over you know, the West Coast. That was. It was
Speaker 1: dope death road trying to jump on. I was, I was,
Speaker 1: I was there. Yeah, it was yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: Um so Snoop being a person he was, we had
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people watching him and he was
Speaker 1: watching everybody right, And then Snoop was like he'd probably say,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to the bathroom by myself. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not really fearful like that, so he's more like
Speaker 1: so he went off with like one maybe one person
Speaker 1: or somebody like that, and I didn't see that what happened.
Speaker 1: Um I did see him walk off, but his typical Snoop,
Speaker 1: He's like I'm just I'm just gonna do what I
Speaker 1: want to do. Go and chop it up to my
Speaker 1: friends whatever. As soon as you did it. The one
Speaker 1: thing I heard, like about a couple of seconds later
Speaker 1: was all of us just running, like just running towards
Speaker 1: where we think that Snoop is at. And that was
Speaker 1: like it. And then it just kind of like this
Speaker 1: um big old melee. You know, we everybody everybody ready,
Speaker 1: you know what that blah blah blah um and that
Speaker 1: was hit. It was just didn't kind of settle down
Speaker 1: at that point, like we had p on here. He
Speaker 1: told us about his famous phone call, a masterpiece call
Speaker 1: a sill call on him, and she saying yo, man
Speaker 1: l a us and and Masterpiece saying, so when you're moving.
Speaker 1: I heard that story. I heard that. Um, we all
Speaker 1: heard the Room of Death row. When you hear this,
Speaker 1: that your brother saying, man, I ain't going nowhere. What
Speaker 1: is your thoughts running through your mind? Are you thinking
Speaker 1: industry ship or are you thinking like maybe this is
Speaker 1: the time let's relax. I mean, like, I'm not really
Speaker 1: familiar with the sugar part, but so I won't even comment. Well,
Speaker 1: I knew of them. I knew your own story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew hanging another ice over, I heard it. But
Speaker 1: i'd be so my listening, I'll be so zone whatever.
Speaker 1: But I'm with, you know, I'm with all that. But
Speaker 1: at the same time I heard the stuff. Um, but
Speaker 1: but I also could believe the conversation happened. I wasn't
Speaker 1: there with the conversation happened. Now I wasn't. I was
Speaker 1: in the mix everything. I was actually calling Richie rich
Speaker 1: I know they Actually the funny thing about it is
Speaker 1: and this is this is all due to you know, blessed.
Speaker 1: On that part, I was probably the wildest one coming up.
Speaker 1: And I was with, I was with, I was in
Speaker 1: all this stuff. I was with We had like even
Speaker 1: if you wanted the video, I was in the barrier
Speaker 1: with the fight. I was like I made the lie up.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, do stuff to my footing and
Speaker 1: stup my foot the whole club we're fighting the club whatever.
Speaker 1: So you know, I was with all that dumb stuff. Um.
Speaker 1: So no, and I was. I was at every meeting
Speaker 1: us CA stuff. I know of it. Um. If I
Speaker 1: wasn't there, it's like I'm a phone call away. So
Speaker 1: I was so the crazy part I was with whatever
Speaker 1: we was with. Um, the room was like pe Court
Speaker 1: on pimp in the room. Yeah I wasn't. I wasn't
Speaker 1: were over that part. But you know that's just room
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Pimp and nothing's people. Okay, I
Speaker 1: see that, but you know some of that stuff I
Speaker 1: just called me when it's all the way up, or
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta with it's the issue, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So with the what did I say, Oh, with the
Speaker 1: with that part of it, I know that probably happened
Speaker 1: because I could see, but that's typically past the people.
Speaker 1: Probably happened. I heard of. It probably happened for sure.
Speaker 1: I see that a lot of niggers. How about how
Speaker 1: about how about the pastor Troy Ship? Because I listened
Speaker 1: to this record for them there two years and I
Speaker 1: had no idea that that was a disc record. Yeah
Speaker 1: you know playing I said, what's up, Big Big okay
Speaker 1: from Gets Drink Champion? Yeah, yeah, yeah, coming here. But
Speaker 1: I had, like I had watched this man come performed
Speaker 1: at two or three, four or four, six seven times.
Speaker 1: I had not known because because I think the intro
Speaker 1: of the record is actually the disk right or the
Speaker 1: video or whatever, I had not there. Uh yeah it's Peter, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's rapping. Oh yeah, yeah, that's on the phones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pass the Troyal and tell them since they think they
Speaker 1: sold you. We read it for war. I've never really
Speaker 1: heard that. Damn, he's so rich man. Yo, yeah, I
Speaker 1: never heard that to never. No, that's crazy, but I
Speaker 1: know I know that I heard the story. Um, Like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm just try I'll be man listening me.
Speaker 1: I'm like my, Um, I had to control my you
Speaker 1: know I have. I had a little temper back then,
Speaker 1: but so I tried not to um because because they
Speaker 1: don't have to tell me to calm down type of things,
Speaker 1: So I just try to. It's when it's up, It's
Speaker 1: like it's up. So shot me before I would have
Speaker 1: definitely in the statue. Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't for me that dude. Oh my god, this is
Speaker 1: what's big mount Okay, yeah, no, I can't believe you.
Speaker 1: You know, you know I heard the story, but I
Speaker 1: never music white rich che Yeah yeah, tech game. You
Speaker 1: know your communionship communis. I talked to me before to
Speaker 1: dope people. Done people, you know what you doing? What
Speaker 1: what I've done is um And that's probably like why
Speaker 1: I want to show people, because um, I'm gonna seen this.
Speaker 1: So I have. I had this book. I had rolled too,
Speaker 1: but it's a music book. So I'm sitting to all
Speaker 1: y'all for sure. UM, I said, I didn't bring down
Speaker 1: hut damn about but but no, I'm in a tech world.
Speaker 1: But I also found it's a balance to um telling
Speaker 1: people you in the tech world and really be in
Speaker 1: the tech world. Right. So it's some stuff that I'm
Speaker 1: part of that UM you probably used, but I probably
Speaker 1: I'll never tell you that. UM, I think because sometimes
Speaker 1: some stuff is good. Like Twitter. Now that's I don't
Speaker 1: I don't want that, but I won't stop the water
Speaker 1: around brook that's this. I want something that's cool, that's
Speaker 1: dope like that. Um. And then how do you get
Speaker 1: into these things? I'm hearing people get it? Is it
Speaker 1: through hedge funds? Is it through white people? I got
Speaker 1: friends that are UM I got was wanting. The people
Speaker 1: don't understand how much. Okay, please, I got some bro. No,
Speaker 1: let me tell you. I gotta call my boy. I
Speaker 1: gotta come boy at some point. Okay, but missing boy
Speaker 1: something Okay, cool, I got something you my bro. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be like shock you when he tells you. But no,
Speaker 1: I actually and this is gonna make so much sense
Speaker 1: for you. But the book, okay, we got to okay,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, and he got to take yet that's it.
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a um. It's just when the
Speaker 1: music doesn't so everything you didn't know about publishing, writing whatever,
Speaker 1: And it's what year did you put this up? Like
Speaker 1: two years a year and have ago so it's recently
Speaker 1: so it's just today. It's really good. Pay you a
Speaker 1: whole real hay a full so but no, I'm glad that. Please.
Speaker 1: I want to be in some text shown. You want
Speaker 1: to go to Silicone Valley, You're gonna love it. Bro,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he was married. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: something and just get more pusson in the tempo that
Speaker 1: right now? Are you in the crypto space too? Not
Speaker 1: in a game? I'm not, um, but but I want
Speaker 1: I want to get into some stuff that I don't
Speaker 1: know about. I try not to um do it of stuff.
Speaker 1: I just got my first one done. I'm shout out
Speaker 1: to my boy Trav. Uh yeah you frenchie, frenchie Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got something going on that he's involved in of us. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: so you sold your first one on your boy yet
Speaker 1: we did it. We did it right now and we're
Speaker 1: about to Yeah, we're about to put it out together
Speaker 1: now one second. Um. But so that's some stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: that's some stuff that because some of the stuff you're doing,
Speaker 1: like you do, you could own for you to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing. Like I know, NAS do a
Speaker 1: lot of it, right, some stuff NAS do that you
Speaker 1: never know NAS do. It blows up right whatever. But
Speaker 1: I found out sometimes you keep some stuff separate because
Speaker 1: let's say if I got a clothing line, I have
Speaker 1: a clothing line that's that every artist you know comes
Speaker 1: into l A and buy that my shop right right slam.
Speaker 1: You don't never give me a ship because I don't
Speaker 1: want you to know I's owned it. But I own it.
Speaker 1: And I could pull up a Hunted Rappers that has
Speaker 1: the award. If I tell them that I own it'll
Speaker 1: change it. They'd be like, I didn't want to sho
Speaker 1: what I'm saying with you. I don't know why. But
Speaker 1: if you like, that's just that's actually what it is.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be something personal with you. It's just identified
Speaker 1: with a little personal a person I don't know how
Speaker 1: to spell. It was just it was just got it,
Speaker 1: put it together. I don't. If you don't get it,
Speaker 1: I don't why why it just sell good on my
Speaker 1: host a gun hoster because I got joining here. Now
Speaker 1: one brand that they identified myself with. I've seen you
Speaker 1: got something, Put us on, Put us on. It's called
Speaker 1: chasing billions. So that's what I do. But that one is,
Speaker 1: you know people, I put it his mind, but it
Speaker 1: does well anyway. But the other one, every person from
Speaker 1: who tanks a little baby and to train his board
Speaker 1: and yeah. But but because it's it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a kind of thing where it's pieces, so they
Speaker 1: love it. They spend five hundred dollars one dollars on. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for real, you got got you and your phone. You
Speaker 1: gotta relax side you're arguing with him. The niggle was
Speaker 1: not dead for me. I thought like I thought, trying
Speaker 1: to show he had my back and I ain't needing
Speaker 1: no guns. This is this nigg is like the transporter.
Speaker 1: He got the guns. He got the guns. Let's see. Man,
Speaker 1: Now we don't do it, No no one to do it.
Speaker 1: Because we went to jail, both us went. Last time
Speaker 1: you guys went together, Hey man, Mr Lee I was
Speaker 1: the bottle boy here. He even had he got he
Speaker 1: got it out for your dollar. Should not calling me
Speaker 1: phone call you? He called me. No, that's it's it's
Speaker 1: documented and there no jokes, no jokes with the guy.
Speaker 1: So what he says, we need documented though recording. He
Speaker 1: talked about it before, so it don't mean it's documented,
Speaker 1: I guess, but it's one what happened here all So
Speaker 1: you remember when uh Tupac's body guard Frank Alexander lights kid. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was the last interview, yes, one of because he
Speaker 1: got murdered, right, he had got murdered two weeks after
Speaker 1: you on this on this is fifty yes and yo
Speaker 1: a finish A cool called me all these uh fucking um.
Speaker 1: It was a little boy that used to hang out
Speaker 1: with Tupac all the time. They bring along like I'm
Speaker 1: some god named Manuel Lewis ship with Michael Jackson, you
Speaker 1: know twin he was, he was young. But anyway he
Speaker 1: called me and he was like, this was when it
Speaker 1: was in talks. Oh uh, what's the movie? Trade out
Speaker 1: of company? What's coming? Before the other alteration? He goes
Speaker 1: to jail about the ship. He finds out how he's
Speaker 1: being depicted inside of the movie. Who Sure, So he
Speaker 1: hit me up and he wont He was like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Um, just jack throw up? I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up? Who it is? He said it sure? I
Speaker 1: said sugar? Who? He said, need only sugar? Get the
Speaker 1: funk out of what's up? He said, what, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to see you? I'm like, what trying to see me?
Speaker 1: He said? I can't see him? Yeah? I wait where
Speaker 1: you wait? Wait where you at? And he said, I'm
Speaker 1: in l A. Oh, I'm in New York. Ship, I'm
Speaker 1: not balled up in the corner. And when he was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I need to talk to fifty, I said about what?
Speaker 1: And he was like, hey, I want to talk to
Speaker 1: me about the death role movie. Don't want to do
Speaker 1: a death role movie and whatnot? And you know, I
Speaker 1: know he gets ship. You want to do a counter movie? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He wanted to do a counter movie. Yeah. And so
Speaker 1: I said, here, hey, I don't make it heavy for you,
Speaker 1: but I need something from you too. I need you
Speaker 1: can give me a Yeah. I mean I wanted some bullshit.
Speaker 1: I asked him for no money, nothing, because I didn't
Speaker 1: understand the business and what this called me. I asked
Speaker 1: him for a shout out for my show cycle show
Speaker 1: six thing about you kind of drop from him. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it until I got him on the phone
Speaker 1: with fifty. So I went to the office the next
Speaker 1: day because see fifty, and I said, Hey, fifty, guess
Speaker 1: who called me. They did not believe you. Didn't believe
Speaker 1: you know, he believed believe ever think that? He said,
Speaker 1: I said, shouldn't I want to have you? Said? They
Speaker 1: fuck no. They walked off from me, and I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: I don't think fifty likes, shouldn't I? And so he'll
Speaker 1: be telling fifty secrets now that you work with Rick Cross,
Speaker 1: I don't. I was searchty, I was searching, don't we
Speaker 1: give it now? I don't know? No, don't that who
Speaker 1: we fun with? And you don't sunk with fun with?
Speaker 1: So he definitely not working with you right now. I
Speaker 1: think you might have put a gun on that. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so the story careers on one down. I'm confused. I
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. Back he called me back.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was like, hey, man, what's up?
Speaker 1: Like he ain't been And what happened was, yeah, black candy,
Speaker 1: let me get that crop. He's like, man, let's tell
Speaker 1: the nigger I need to holiday and you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, real soon, and like it's a stap, it's one.
Speaker 1: I need to do it right now. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do you drop whatever the funk you want to do.
Speaker 1: And I went back and I tried again, and I
Speaker 1: went to Renee this time, and Renee was like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: no go uh because there's a whole another story to
Speaker 1: go with this ship with your kids back in the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the story. Okay, cool somewhere someone all right, cool.
Speaker 1: So we've got a couple of minutes left. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he let's get to the story. So, so kidnap some
Speaker 1: ship like that? Okay, that's what happened? What up? He
Speaker 1: kidding that book? Yes, you know part of them kidding them? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is who come kame. He just didn't kid kidning happens.
Speaker 1: He said, it's way better than Moose kidding, not like
Speaker 1: with killer killer killers killer cams. So did the nigga.
Speaker 1: He tell him that I'm gonna do the ship and yes,
Speaker 1: and a blessing come out of the skies and ship
Speaker 1: because I don't know what to sell. Shooting neck then
Speaker 1: he go to jail and like, oh, ship, that's not
Speaker 1: a busting for me, for me, god me, because now
Speaker 1: I'm not that explanation for it. And then shoot, hi,
Speaker 1: blessing came about. Yeah, so I released me, he released me,
Speaker 1: about him, about me, and tell the point and so
Speaker 1: Dan Straighter coming and it's a great movie. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a great movie. And I say that to go
Speaker 1: right into the dirty South, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the story of good in mob playing Celo. Man Celo
Speaker 1: used to rob niggas all the time and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And when he got famous, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: nigga should come up to him like, hey, you robbed
Speaker 1: me before, and now it's gonna be one of the
Speaker 1: greatest movies. Then you'll never see that was on some
Speaker 1: gangster ship music. All that comparison to a fucking straight
Speaker 1: out of comptent. That's why I was going with that.
Speaker 1: And I got a new show. It's called the pull Up.
Speaker 1: The pull Up because tax Stone had a show called
Speaker 1: to pull Up? Who tax Stone at a tax Stone
Speaker 1: that's not true had a show called to pull Up?
Speaker 1: So did Joe Buttons had a show called to pull
Speaker 1: Up Just want to be clear, they don't got it now?
Speaker 1: And Mr Lee. Mr Lee had a show called The
Speaker 1: Else that has a show called oh No, when't when?
Speaker 1: When listen you can differentiate yourself about say put up
Speaker 1: on me? Put up on me? All right, we'll put
Speaker 1: that on man on that, We'll put that out. I
Speaker 1: got a new show called pull up on Me on
Speaker 1: your young Maid, young bag, and I was not the
Speaker 1: nigger that got young that made pregnant easier. We was like,
Speaker 1: who was planning spend about it? One night with me,
Speaker 1: A couple other studs and ships out of control stunts
Speaker 1: and ship came on me and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? She was like, hey, if you want to
Speaker 1: hit this, you gotta kiss kiss my strap on. I like,
Speaker 1: and you did it nothing. I was like, you ain't
Speaker 1: falling on with it? Did you? You know? What's your
Speaker 1: fun on? Niggas with it? Out do it? A new
Speaker 1: show was called to pull Up on Man, where my girl, Me,
Speaker 1: Me and chant the publicist the biggest public hold on
Speaker 1: time Out Atlanta Time Out. So you put your girl
Speaker 1: on the show. Putting your girl on the show, she
Speaker 1: don't pull up? And whatnot to about everybody needs on
Speaker 1: the show. Like listen, well, then you have like a
Speaker 1: bad mistake. We're just working with your bad mistake, working
Speaker 1: with your No, I don't, I don't know. I chanted
Speaker 1: with the girl stills. I championed my girl shows, but
Speaker 1: I'm not on the show. Yeah, I'm producing her show
Speaker 1: so she can do what she wants to do on
Speaker 1: her show. And I'm on, I don't. On the back end,
Speaker 1: I'm supporting. Come supporting, alright, come supporting. But I got
Speaker 1: to put pull up show. It's what Seante and me
Speaker 1: and they both publicists. We can get anybody in the
Speaker 1: world on that motherfucker's That's why I did it this way.
Speaker 1: We gotta stay so you can come from the interview,
Speaker 1: go right and perform on that ship. Nor ef. I
Speaker 1: need y'all on the show. You know, I'm saying, help
Speaker 1: me get us in the Atlanta and whatnot. And it's
Speaker 1: gonna change the game, you know all access Granted, you
Speaker 1: remember that show when we shoot music videos and they
Speaker 1: show to making nothing and all that we're doing it.
Speaker 1: We're bringing a sixting in a better back. It comes
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Speaker 1: sightful so every week that's going on this sight for Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's as show Shore show is Atlanta the show room.
Speaker 1: Look keep up with Yeah, it's going down. Hey. I
Speaker 1: also came to Diamonds every Sunday, every Sunday hosting a
Speaker 1: Knis Canally. He can cut your own out, put in
Speaker 1: your mouth? Who used to put it in your in Atlanta?
Speaker 1: In Atlanta now Kick of Diamonds, King of Diamonds. It's
Speaker 1: a branch. I gotta live band with my own group,
Speaker 1: Reckless out Ball in four hours and Anabas is going
Speaker 1: out of the major way. It's moving and grooving and
Speaker 1: dancing into this music in this room. Come on now, yo,
Speaker 1: y'all give it up. Y'all get up and came up
Speaker 1: and came up clashing. Get what you mean you're gonna
Speaker 1: clapping me? So this is your publicist, many listen listen
Speaker 1: for my dog and I managed super Shop. If you
Speaker 1: need any bookings, any features off beat? We got that
Speaker 1: ship over here, come over here, Come on, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: come on, we're spooming everybody. So what's next for silk Um?
Speaker 1: So we got a new project coming out called Vito.
Speaker 1: That's this album. So you know how I used to
Speaker 1: be like everybody's coming Vito. So we're doing that right now.
Speaker 1: We almost everybody just calling me that, but not with
Speaker 1: the actual Vito stands for something now y'all, y'all stay
Speaker 1: tuned that. And then we're going to movie. So we
Speaker 1: just did a sitcom. So I sold one sitcom and
Speaker 1: I was actually casting a sitcom that did like eight episodes.
Speaker 1: So that was cool. That was dope that you acted,
Speaker 1: was acting almost coming up. This is fun, coming out,
Speaker 1: coming out. I can do it for you too. So
Speaker 1: that's it. And I say, we you know, the tech
Speaker 1: world stuff is dope. Um, but movies, I'm about to
Speaker 1: get into the hunter percent that's gonna be dope. Producing
Speaker 1: or producing director. The last two i'm writing. But actually
Speaker 1: I wrote the first one right we were the first time. Yep.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm really good at the right one. Remember
Speaker 1: what people come to me and then this day and say, hey,
Speaker 1: come on in, you come on hand. Yeah I am
Speaker 1: that that. No, I'm I'm I'm so good at the
Speaker 1: I'm not being humbling the mode like take it from
Speaker 1: no Nory told me this, Um, we're no longer being humble.
Speaker 1: But no, I'm really super good at the writing the
Speaker 1: script like I'm not good at typing it when I'm
Speaker 1: I'm so good at the actual screen sexualizing it. But
Speaker 1: that's what I mean, even with the music stuff. That's
Speaker 1: kind of how I was. You know, I rarely wrote,
Speaker 1: but um just had everything in my head. I can't.
Speaker 1: You can't say that, um so, because when you say
Speaker 1: you really wrote, people want to take it like people
Speaker 1: wrote for you. So you gotta you wrote you free style.
Speaker 1: I first gotta say that because these fans would take
Speaker 1: that little part and be like, oh, Ship told you master,
Speaker 1: he wrote his old ship. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: can wrote everything. You know what I'm saying. So and
Speaker 1: when you're saying movie stuff, because you guys were doing
Speaker 1: movies already, so yeah, you're diving into like the legit
Speaker 1: Hollywood side of it. Man, I got one. Um this
Speaker 1: this one's big, Like this is gonna be big because
Speaker 1: you know I would talk to talk to you all
Speaker 1: off the airbody, but it's it's um so yeah, So
Speaker 1: we we got some of them that we're just doing ourselves.
Speaker 1: But then I got lucky and did this one. I'm
Speaker 1: not paying for it at all, but um somebody they
Speaker 1: bought it from you, like a big, big company bought
Speaker 1: it from and it's it's a seven it's an eighty
Speaker 1: almost ninety million dollar movie. But yeah, but it's But
Speaker 1: but I could write them like that. I'm actually better
Speaker 1: at those, so I'm trying to. I could do the
Speaker 1: ones we all the time. That's that's easy for me.
Speaker 1: But I'm really good at the big concept um we
Speaker 1: talk about We talked about the Abody, but we're talking
Speaker 1: about Fast and Furious eleven right now. Pretty good, it's
Speaker 1: pretty good. Don't don't give it away here, it's really good.
Speaker 1: I like this. Yeah, yeah, it's really good. You'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you did that because you appreciate you guys appreciate the
Speaker 1: like coming from where we came from to do stuff
Speaker 1: like this and this, those things are easier for me
Speaker 1: to do, honestly, like to make like like I have
Speaker 1: one movie I'm sure at some point to get picked
Speaker 1: up it's like million dollars. But if you check it
Speaker 1: out kind of part three and you know, and you
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, why dobody pick it up? But
Speaker 1: I ain't. Haven't nootherbody read it yet, but two people
Speaker 1: and one person it's actually may do it? Ums talking
Speaker 1: about it when you say person and you're talking about
Speaker 1: like diving into the whole Hollywood ecosystem, because I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because you guys were making movies. So the outside of
Speaker 1: you guys are already successful doing indie movie like a bottom.
Speaker 1: So what's the now, um, like, are you tapped in
Speaker 1: now to this? But other people that's Hollywood equosy ism,
Speaker 1: that's millions and billions of dollars and people give up
Speaker 1: the movies. So so let me get you an example. Um,
Speaker 1: The actual crazy part is I didn't realize them to
Speaker 1: get you a little game. The bigger movies lore it's
Speaker 1: easy to get done than the smaller movies, like think
Speaker 1: about this because they see bigger profits. Okay, so if
Speaker 1: you so, if you're rich, you don't care about money.
Speaker 1: But if I try to go get two from some
Speaker 1: of my friends, they don't I mean not friends, but
Speaker 1: some people that I know that don't have it. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be like it doesn't matter. It's gonna be like
Speaker 1: taking water from this thing. They don't have it to give.
Speaker 1: They might want to do it, but they might say, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll keep you five. But but you have to think
Speaker 1: about somebody sitting on a honeymillion dollars. It's again, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a game that they're gonna make good money
Speaker 1: off if they don't make it, but if they make it,
Speaker 1: if they don't tax right off. If they do, it's
Speaker 1: a good it's a good investor. And here you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to worry about taking the money from the guy
Speaker 1: who only got to any thousand, hundred thousand, so he's
Speaker 1: gonna be on you, like okay whatever, as opposed of
Speaker 1: somebody they just sitting around. They got it. So it's
Speaker 1: so what I learned to do is balanced too. I
Speaker 1: love doing the movies that we've done, you know, I
Speaker 1: love those, um, But then I also kind of broadened
Speaker 1: the rising on it was like, oh, um, take those
Speaker 1: concepts like, um, I have a concept. If it's good,
Speaker 1: you know, actors are gonna want to do it. And
Speaker 1: I found out that's my that's kind of my niche,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Where I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: like that, Like when you're seeing some of the movies,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, Like they don't they're crazy. How do you
Speaker 1: get into that world of those people that invest in
Speaker 1: like that. I'm around some of them um, everybody knows
Speaker 1: that I make dollars and cents, right, so and I
Speaker 1: and I and so what I do really good? Honestly
Speaker 1: I do um, I do marketing good. So if you
Speaker 1: go no limit. We was always it's marketing instructure to everything.
Speaker 1: That's why I was telling you earlier where you always
Speaker 1: be okay because the person who could sell stuff, it's
Speaker 1: gonna win all the time. Like you can have this
Speaker 1: good beer, but is anybody gonna sell it. You can
Speaker 1: have a Kevin Hart movie, but nobody hears about it,
Speaker 1: it won't do good. So if you could put your post.
Speaker 1: That's why the movie that we did, it's got funny.
Speaker 1: So the movie we did, right, I sold it to Lionsgate, right,
Speaker 1: So I paid for it and I sold it to Lionsgate. Right.
Speaker 1: The Lionsgate was like, now they bought the movie because
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not telling you what they say in
Speaker 1: the same room I remember yesterday, Like we had to
Speaker 1: stay in the same fucking room. But what the funny
Speaker 1: part is, I take care I'll take care of y'all,
Speaker 1: take care of me. I'll take care of y'all. Is
Speaker 1: it d take care of it? Ain't it? Ain't dude?
Speaker 1: This can think about it. I took a chance on
Speaker 1: all y'all and nobody care about y'all in Hollywood. Tell
Speaker 1: the truth and Michael black they said, what is this
Speaker 1: guy in the movie? So they was like, they should
Speaker 1: be in a movie. We're not gonna buy this, right,
Speaker 1: But here's what crazy it is. I know that Michael
Speaker 1: Blackson is like was the starting to make I knew
Speaker 1: Blotle Duvall was super good. He's still he's still working
Speaker 1: on it. My boy's good. He's good. He's good people
Speaker 1: and he's let me manage him. But so so so
Speaker 1: what they but but even with these but even with
Speaker 1: the lives Gate stuff, they so they sit down on me.
Speaker 1: We had a meeting. You sold it out right, No,
Speaker 1: I still own it. But they sit down on me. Whatever.
Speaker 1: They didn't really want to buy the movie. Oh no,
Speaker 1: what's the deal. I got to get it back in
Speaker 1: five years or whatever. So what they did was they
Speaker 1: they I sit down with them. Now he shout to
Speaker 1: lions Gate for sure, but they don't really know. They
Speaker 1: have a lot of urban movies and they just thought
Speaker 1: at the fency like he got ten millions and they
Speaker 1: don't like shoutott to Lions game, but they didn't even
Speaker 1: know World Star was type the thing. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, but they're selling to you know, to
Speaker 1: our community, but not to say they dope in the
Speaker 1: in the business part. But how do you they're trying
Speaker 1: to say, like silk they sent me down. They're like silk, um,
Speaker 1: why these movies didn't do good? And I was supposed
Speaker 1: to be thirty minutes um nor shot for real, it
Speaker 1: turned out to seven hour meeting and they picked to
Speaker 1: think about no limits. Salted don you Tim and you
Speaker 1: took the Shadow was for two hundred dollars rooms, you know,
Speaker 1: ten million dollars food? How much the game for I'm
Speaker 1: not telling you how much it was. It was the
Speaker 1: same room exactly. That's a lie. I don't do that.
Speaker 1: I won't get you bron to that I had you
Speaker 1: wouldn't do well. Yeah not Normally when we've been by ourselves,
Speaker 1: we don't be in the same room. But when we
Speaker 1: were in we were let if they want to stay
Speaker 1: in the room, they say, because they wanted. They There
Speaker 1: was never nobody staying in the same room, Like, don't
Speaker 1: go to that, no more money, more family video. We
Speaker 1: didn't get no more money. I can't take it. I
Speaker 1: can't deal with no. But but but honestly, don't believe that, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm taking I took these guys the funniest head. But
Speaker 1: good job. You say. I might try to buy, not
Speaker 1: want you're just making my hand over. I might want to.
Speaker 1: He's not connecting to be on your side. But they
Speaker 1: so they so they took that. So they just bought
Speaker 1: the money my family part because they kind of wanted
Speaker 1: me in a circle whatever. And so now that it's
Speaker 1: just like one of those things where I just was
Speaker 1: kind of introduced to it, but I also wanted the
Speaker 1: system and the system it's designed for us, but we
Speaker 1: go away from it. Um, we got to balance it
Speaker 1: all so you could do those movies and then you
Speaker 1: could really like we could make some big movies for
Speaker 1: the culture. But why why we can't um make Fast
Speaker 1: and Furious. We can own that, like we could literally,
Speaker 1: but we can't do it if we're trying to low
Speaker 1: ball the production part and they don't look and I
Speaker 1: don't know about that part, but they but they known
Speaker 1: to do that because I know some Hollywood actors that
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Yo, you know, you guys could do
Speaker 1: these projects. So they're starting in the movies, but the
Speaker 1: system is giving them what they want to. But I'm like, like,
Speaker 1: I know, what's your girl name is? Who played Cookie? Whatever?
Speaker 1: She She was like like, no, I'm sorry, I'm not bad.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my mom blank um, that's all this traffic.
Speaker 1: But I can't. You know, I flew from always do.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't understood that, you know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I would ship. You know you're gonna let them get
Speaker 1: away with that. Let me get away with that. I
Speaker 1: ain't even you did Beyonce and Jay you gotta do
Speaker 1: to roch like that. That's what. Okay, my bad, But
Speaker 1: I understand what he said when he said Cookie. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying I did because she doesn't hell of
Speaker 1: a job. It's Cookie. Let's just be clear. Twilight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, And that's I'm the comic. You know I
Speaker 1: was blanked for so I'm the jester. I got I
Speaker 1: got it. I got it. I know I was blank
Speaker 1: and I was. What I was telling saying was she's
Speaker 1: doing all these big roles and she's underpaid. I was saying,
Speaker 1: how much you're gonna pay her now? I'm gonna pay
Speaker 1: whatever she wants. She's gonna pay everybody walk I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean what we can't read it. I'm saying, what
Speaker 1: the reason reasonable manager forget about trying to I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't glogy and so in the same time, cut
Speaker 1: me a break on thorology. Okay, cool, that's what you
Speaker 1: were in business. Don't do it, don't. It's kind of
Speaker 1: gonna stick. But then it might not stick, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Corey might not stick. But but now
Speaker 1: that's it. So it's just us kind of having a
Speaker 1: chance because we were powerful enough to do it. Um
Speaker 1: we just got like the top got of the fair
Speaker 1: by a bunch of people that believe in it, right
Speaker 1: so um so, But they know that we're not. So
Speaker 1: we're the only people that's gonna underbudget ourselves in the films, right,
Speaker 1: we're not Tyler Perry on the studio and he's doing
Speaker 1: He's what I'm saying, you've been doing this place stuff.
Speaker 1: I heard about it. I got a small little Tyler
Speaker 1: Peri studio in Atlanta. It's like tim minutes away from
Speaker 1: the airport. You've been there before. They said that she
Speaker 1: was there. Uh, you have a spot. It's not so,
Speaker 1: Tyler Peris. You can't shoot video all that. Y'all have
Speaker 1: done things in there already. It's my man show bis
Speaker 1: the showroom at l You know what I'm saying. Following
Speaker 1: there right now? You know what I'm talking about. All
Speaker 1: of the promo for every wrapper that comes through. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I guess there. Yeah, you ain't your baby,
Speaker 1: You ain't baby, and down with y'all. Down with it too, okay? Right?
Speaker 1: Were Jack shot platter? No doubt. I don't get the
Speaker 1: sharp No, No, was that fried? No? No, it's it's
Speaker 1: all shark, bro, It's all real, and it's it's like
Speaker 1: five different crap legs, five different shrimps. You get you
Speaker 1: get a tuna? Are we doing this on the show?
Speaker 1: Right by the fucking airport? Right? You get there. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you like to seafood, but this one
Speaker 1: not got me and my old lady together because she
Speaker 1: liked the shark platitude and you like to eat ass.
Speaker 1: You got a sold out of a so anything else
Speaker 1: if you can say for making about it from I
Speaker 1: think I got to got the book. I mean you
Speaker 1: got the book. Tell him what the book paid? Music?
Speaker 1: You got another book you're gonna do right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got one stupid though. We like that right now, tell
Speaker 1: us not whenever you tell your boss, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Whenever I say no, we say yeah. And then Jack
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Speaker 1: gonna show you how to get rich with this and
Speaker 1: bobble and when I got some great package. Yeah, whatever, yeah, whatever, Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you want to take over, give me all your
Speaker 1: fucking money, and I guarantee I'm gonna make that ship
Speaker 1: here you're making. Let's sell. Say one last thing. Listen,
Speaker 1: I want to say, sloop, y'all man to show is
Speaker 1: a dope show. Good y'all having me, and definitely appreciate
Speaker 1: y'all sticking back. I got it for y'all. I do
Speaker 1: these plays. They not whatever. So I tell him my
Speaker 1: meat though, and the side just tell him about me.
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't. Don't you tell yourself the jack Philip said,
Speaker 1: you was here yesterday I swear yesterday he was like, yo, yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw him. I was like, really he said, He
Speaker 1: was like, you guys together the good He said, you
Speaker 1: guys said this hotel here in this hotel. So I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, we good. So I'm saying that
Speaker 1: and then Jack like, oh, I boy, I had thought
Speaker 1: he was. I thought made whatever you need to happen happen.
Speaker 1: I appreciate in order for you to be here right now.
Speaker 1: That's why I deserved. Well, come on, that's negotiate Jackets.
Speaker 1: Shout you for three months. But you gotta say yes
Speaker 1: to everything everything, say yes to every fucking for the
Speaker 1: next three months. I got skits with us with all
Speaker 1: kind of n I appreciate you, but yeah, but I
Speaker 1: would say this. I would say this Bard because you know,
Speaker 1: I really do these and I really um do it.
Speaker 1: Anytime you want to speak you till you want to
Speaker 1: promote anything. This is your house. You know I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that to say um because I respect the show,
Speaker 1: respect you for show book y'all for sure, um what
Speaker 1: y'all do for everybody else to um. He knows that
Speaker 1: I have a tendency to be like I ain't coming right,
Speaker 1: so so and I and it was a thought, but
Speaker 1: that's like, once I realized what it was about, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm making that some way chick form. But
Speaker 1: I'm also like I said, once again, salute you for
Speaker 1: saying what you're saying about staying back. And he told
Speaker 1: me that, and I was like, oh, that's super good.
Speaker 1: And because you're you're really you're really a big staple
Speaker 1: in this game. You know what I'm saying. And it's like,
Speaker 1: even when I was like playing with BENI su recently,
Speaker 1: like a lot of times some of us don't really
Speaker 1: just because we all humble and we are just like,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever, whatever we did in life. But sometimes
Speaker 1: it's just like my good friends Ron says me, always
Speaker 1: be like I like that you humble, but fun that like,
Speaker 1: and he's like, because he's like, yo, why like if
Speaker 1: you are that dude, you know what I'm saying when
Speaker 1: you're walking in the room, you might as well just
Speaker 1: capture that. You might as will just be it. And
Speaker 1: just in case you don't know, that's what our show
Speaker 1: is about. Everyone's saying giving flowers. We started that slogan.
Speaker 1: We didn't make up the slogan, but we saw that
Speaker 1: slogan because so many people after you got ten years
Speaker 1: of more, they want to say that you washed up
Speaker 1: or whatever. That's not what it should be. If rock
Speaker 1: and roll there's no word for washed up, and jazz
Speaker 1: is no word for roshed up. And all this our society,
Speaker 1: our community are our government, for lack of a better term, us,
Speaker 1: we gotta give each other roads. We gotta keep digging
Speaker 1: each other up. I gotta keep telling you how dope
Speaker 1: it was. And even I don't all I might have
Speaker 1: took a personal maybe you probably didn't deserve it. Like
Speaker 1: that's real talk, you know what I'm saying. Like when
Speaker 1: I was looking back at the album sells and I say, okay, damn,
Speaker 1: I can see where that that's coming from. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm young back there, I'm eighteen years old. I wonder
Speaker 1: when everything, but that's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: And like I said, like um, for us, for us,
Speaker 1: it's always to praise each other, like because who else
Speaker 1: is gonna do it? If if I'm gonna say to you, yo,
Speaker 1: silk man, I don't know what type of year you had.
Speaker 1: That's how I knew what type of when the albums
Speaker 1: was without googling, because I knew when the ship was dropping.
Speaker 1: I was like, WHOA, and like and I'm playing in
Speaker 1: the game. So why wouldn't I say that to your face?
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I tell you how great you are? Why
Speaker 1: wouldn't I say, you know what I'm saying, how much
Speaker 1: you meant to the culture, to the society, to the community,
Speaker 1: and not only just you, but your overall, your overall label,
Speaker 1: the ship that y'all did in this entirety, it's just
Speaker 1: means so much. So we gotta hear your roses. We
Speaker 1: gotta show you love you all the let's take. But
Speaker 1: do I get my roses forgetting the nick? No? No, no,
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