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Speaker 1: Yes, good mornings, sweet world, and welcome to the Now

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Speaker 1: Dumes podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 2: It's Monday, June fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: Im j E.

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Speaker 2: Stkeith back in the Classic Factory with the homie tas Melice.

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Speaker 3: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Got the top shot? Hot Boy, A man

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Speaker 2: who does not fear the deer, Trey Kirby hio A,

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Speaker 2: the international man of Mystery taking it to the max,

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Speaker 2: Leelis Friend Lee, and last, certainly not least making the

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Speaker 2: magic happen here on a Monday. It's JD. Hello, there

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Speaker 2: he is, and here. We are so happy to have you, JD.

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Speaker 2: We didn't think we were gonna have you.

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Speaker 4: Ah me neither. I raced back here after seeing my

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Speaker 4: man a Rod. Actually I didn't see a Rod. I

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Speaker 4: saw doctor Butler, the dentist.

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Speaker 2: Everything.

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Speaker 4: Okay, no, oh, I just got pain. They don't know

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Speaker 4: what's going on, No cavities or anything like that. But

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Speaker 4: first time ever the tap tap ted, literally hammering on

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Speaker 4: my teeth? Does this hurt?

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Speaker 5: Tat?

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Speaker 3: Tat?

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Speaker 4: I'm like, kind of you?

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Speaker 2: Was it like the hammer maddi ohad? In the Happy

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Speaker 2: Hour on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: It was very much like here's hey, Trey. First time

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Speaker 4: ever I heard the staff referred to Alex Rodriguez as

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Speaker 4: a Rod.

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Speaker 5: Oh my this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that we can now definitely openly call him

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Speaker 6: that because we've been pretty silent about it, you know,

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Speaker 6: only doing it live on the internet. But now to

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Speaker 6: be able to say it to his face, to maybe

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Speaker 6: think about turning two together at some point, exciting stuff.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm happier here JD, because otherwise we

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Speaker 2: would have broke this thing for sure. But I'm not

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Speaker 2: happy to hear you're in a little bit of pain.

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Speaker 2: into the games Man. We got some storylines to talk

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Speaker 2: about here. Let's start with the MVP Yokic getting ejected.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, we'll get to that, and then the Suns

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Speaker 2: sweep the Nuggets one twenty five, one eighteen. That guy

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Speaker 2: that beat the snot out of that other guy and

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Speaker 2: yelled Suns in four was right Ley, Oh man, what

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Speaker 2: a clip out was making out?

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Speaker 5: Again?

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Speaker 2: Lost to talk about with this game in this series.

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Speaker 7: Well, that'd be like that guy saying that he was

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Speaker 7: he tried to make him play on the ball when

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Speaker 7: he was whacking those two guys out. I don't know

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Speaker 7: there's something there, but listen Yokich. Look, he commits these

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Speaker 7: frustration fouls. He's done it throughout his career. And when

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Speaker 7: you make contact with the guy's face like he did,

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Speaker 7: I think you have to go because the rule states

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Speaker 7: that if there is unnecessary and excessive contact above the

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Speaker 7: shoulders and also into the face, it's a flagrant too.

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Speaker 7: And there was all of that, and I think it

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Speaker 7: because I don't think you can claim you were making

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Speaker 7: when your intention is pretty clear. You know, play on

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Speaker 7: the ball is like full court pressure. Maybe you try

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Speaker 7: to poke it free and you maybe commit a cheap foul.

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Speaker 7: And even though okay, he does slap the ball free,

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Speaker 7: but that comes clearly after the contact with Pain's face

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Speaker 7: and you can see it's across the sort of nose

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Speaker 7: can understand why Jokic was frustrated. They were probably gonna

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Speaker 7: There was an argument saying, look, he's the MVP, it's

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Speaker 7: But I just don't think that really holds up because

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Speaker 7: he lashed out, he was angry, and you see that

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Speaker 7: the entire team after that as well. So look, I

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Speaker 7: think it was a silly play from Jokic. I think

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Speaker 7: it was a frustration play. But when you make contact

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Speaker 7: with a guy's head and face like that, as he did.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a pretty clear in the rule that

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Speaker 7: it's a flagrant too when he had to go in

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Speaker 2: I do not agree with this. I'm fine with a

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Speaker 2: flagrant one your spot only he's frustrated. He winds up. Yep,

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Speaker 2: he makes contact, even if it is like his forearm

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Speaker 5: To the nose.

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Speaker 6: This guy jake in for a flagrant too. Come on,

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Speaker 6: I watched ten minutes of basketball this weekend and it

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Speaker 5: Up for hitting a guy with his upper arm. I

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Speaker 5: don't go so flagrant to that easily.

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Speaker 6: He didn't even hit him with the part of the

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Speaker 6: was trying to follow him, he said afterwards. I was

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Speaker 6: trying for a hard foul he got it. That to

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Speaker 6: me should have been a flagrant one.

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Speaker 5: But what do I know. I'm not a rough lover

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Speaker 5: like Lee Ellis over there.

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Speaker 7: I honestly I'm the opposite. I watched this over and

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Speaker 7: there and then claim you were making a play on

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Speaker 7: the ball when you got that big wind up like that.

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Speaker 2: That's what did it for him.

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Speaker 7: You can't he wasn't going in to make a playing

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Speaker 7: the ball.

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Speaker 2: That's what he might be. The extra curricular stuff after

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Speaker 2: the actual play probably hurt him too well. Step into him.

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Speaker 2: What are you going to do about it? And all that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he got, he.

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Speaker 7: Got, he got the tech foil for that, but he

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Speaker 7: was ejected for the for the play on a campaign

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Speaker 7: there And like I say, I mean, he does this

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Speaker 7: or it's more of a you know, sort of like

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Speaker 7: But when you go in like that, and then and

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Speaker 7: then again, the Nuggets are all saying, oh, play on

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Speaker 7: the ball, playing the ball.

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Speaker 5: It was not a play on the ball.

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Speaker 7: He got the ball after the contact, but he was

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Speaker 7: down too. Now we did come back and he was fine,

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Speaker 7: but Pain wasn't just on the ground saying I'm just

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Speaker 7: get him ejected. He got whacked clearly in the face unnecessarily.

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Speaker 7: I think that was the right call.

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Speaker 2: Ta's what do you think.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't help the court of public opinion here when

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Speaker 3: you watch the replay over and over and over again,

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Speaker 3: and they just picked the slow mo replace to show us,

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Speaker 3: so it wasn't even live speed. It was just Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was just all of Jokic's bicep against Campaign's face,

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Speaker 3: over and over and over again. And yeah, he went

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Speaker 3: for the ball. But at the same time, it is

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Speaker 3: true that he's not trying to strip him. He is

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Speaker 3: one hundred feet away from his hoop. There isn't a

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Speaker 3: play to be made here. It's just I'm just trying

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Speaker 3: to messy up here a little bit because I'm really

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Speaker 3: pissed that we're down three to zero. But at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day when Campaign he went down, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think he did. I know it hurt him, but

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Speaker 3: I think he did sell it a bit and I

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Speaker 3: think that did help, just him lying on the ground

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Speaker 3: until hey, come on, you can get up now we

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Speaker 3: got the call. I do appreciate that Nikola Jokic, after

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Speaker 3: he gets tossed, does go up to Campaign and shake

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Speaker 3: his hand and make a nice little gamesmanship play out

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Speaker 3: of it, and walked off and said all right, you

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Speaker 3: know I messed up. It's over. I would have preferred

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Speaker 3: a flagrant one on the play, because you know, when

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Speaker 3: a guy goes in and drives and you don't make

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Speaker 3: a play on the ball and you just go smack

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Speaker 3: his head, it's a flagrant too. This at least he

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Speaker 3: was looking for the ball and he did hit the ball,

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Speaker 3: and then he made some nose contact as well. So

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Speaker 3: it's unfortunate that it's the biggest guy on the court

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Speaker 3: and also the smallest guy on the court that also

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Speaker 3: does you know, sell it for the Suns. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: would have gone flagrant one. But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: I can totally understand why Jokic was tossed in this

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Speaker 3: game again, especially because our cameras are so good. Our

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Speaker 3: cameras are so good, so you just see this slow,

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Speaker 3: more bang every time they showed a replay, they didn't

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Speaker 3: show live speed. I think that I think we all

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Speaker 3: would have looked at it differently if it was just

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Speaker 3: a whack, and I think Campaign would have been looked

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Speaker 3: at as selling it a little bit if it was

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Speaker 3: just a live speed whack as opposed to, you know,

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Speaker 3: forty eight minutes of slow.

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Speaker 2: You guys are saying flagrant one and the Sons were

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Speaker 2: basically saying the same thing too. The team that got

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Speaker 2: affected here, the player that got hit. They were like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was a weird ejection. Probably didn't deserve it. No

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Speaker 2: track recordly of like injuring maliciously.

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Speaker 7: Right, but definitely track record of committing these files.

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Speaker 2: No, but yeah, but he commits these fails, and he's

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Speaker 2: gotten away a lot of guys in the ly to

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Speaker 7: Him and Westbrook are the only ones who do it

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Speaker 7: regularly like this this far from their hoop. Other guys

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Speaker 7: commit them, you know, close to the hoop. But that

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Speaker 7: shouldn't make any difference from me because again he came

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Speaker 7: in with that big it's if he doesn't go in

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Speaker 7: like you do, think.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't matter. The envy here the league who has

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Speaker 2: no history of, like again, trying to injury guys compared

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Speaker 2: to like a Beverly if he did this or whatever. Like,

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Speaker 2: they're different. They just are. But but again that because

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Speaker 2: of the static and because of like of their history,

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Speaker 2: you can't.

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Speaker 7: Go and look at replay and then say, okay, but

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Speaker 7: hang on, he's the m v P and this is

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Speaker 7: an eliminate a Nation game. They should give him some leniens.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me they would have kicked Lebron James out

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Speaker 2: of the exact same thing that.

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Speaker 7: That's that's there's no point in bringing that up. That's

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Speaker 7: irrelevant to this discussion because we're talking about this here.

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Speaker 7: Who cares what they would have done with Lebron James

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Speaker 7: in this case, he came in and went far. He

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Speaker 7: crossed the line as to trying to stop the playoff.

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Speaker 2: Disagree with that. He did a dumb foul, a hard foul,

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Speaker 2: but did not break the guy's nose, did not head first, but.

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Speaker 7: He did him in the head first.

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Speaker 7: That's got nothing to do with what Jokic did. Jokic

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Speaker 7: That's completely irrelevant whether or not he's the MVP. So

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Speaker 7: It doesn't make any difference in this call.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the I mean, I like that we wasted

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Speaker 7: And that's that's where the frustration was born, from the

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Speaker 2: I guess my point is there are levels to a

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, a flagrant one. Yeah, you penalize them absolutely,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he made a mistake. He made a mistake.

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Speaker 2: I guess technically, no, look he gets them. He gets them.

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Speaker 7: Look, I didn't want him kicked out, but I think

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Speaker 2: That's where I that's my hang up. I don't think

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Speaker 6: That he didn't slap him in the face. People are like,

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Speaker 6: he slapped him in the face. No, his hand was

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Speaker 5: It all looks bad.

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Speaker 6: And like you're saying, no matter what part of the

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Speaker 6: And it's often gonna be a flagrant too, so by

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Speaker 5: But I thought he was.

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Speaker 2: The campaign if You'll get you immediately goes to campaign

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Speaker 3: I think that they get influences the referees decision that

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Speaker 2: That's possible. Let's talk about the actual Suns because they

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Speaker 2: will go back to you here. Chris Paul amazing, amazing

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he finishes twenty five points on sixty three seventy five,

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Speaker 7: Now they're going to get at least you know, six

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: I hope he can just stay healthy for the playoffs

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tough for Jokic to play on the defensive end

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Speaker 3: of Raptors vibes from the twenty nineteen playoffs because their

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Speaker 3: fans are traveling and coming to visit them on the road. Postgame,

437
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Speaker 3: Chris Paul did his postgame interview in front of Sun's

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Speaker 3: fans in Denver. If you remember twenty nineteen, the Raps

439
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Speaker 3: won the whole thing with fans in the arena in Oakland.

440
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Speaker 3: It was a beautiful thing, and hey, you had these

441
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Speaker 3: vibes here. Garrettell Wood took this great photo of Chris

442
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Speaker 3: Paul saying hello to all his faithful that stayed after

443
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Speaker 3: the game to say what's up to him? Kind of

444
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Speaker 3: like our friend Moe Vernie in the crowd, in Game

445
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Speaker 3: six in Golden State. So, yeah, did you get those vibes, League,

446
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Speaker 3: because you were there, you were there for you know,

447
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Speaker 3: you didn't go to Game six.

448
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Speaker 2: Trade there for Game six, I thought he was trade game.

449
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Speaker 7: I saw I think the game three out there three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever, Yeah, anyway, Yeah, I had those vibes obviously. Yeah.

451
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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see hopefully a healthy Clippers or

452
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Speaker 3: Jazz team, because it is fair to say, kind of

453
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Speaker 3: like the Raptors, you know, beating the Warriors in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: It is fair to say the Clippers did defeat the

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Speaker 3: Nuggets without Jamal Maraine in the first round. They defeated

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Speaker 3: the Lakers with a half a d half Lebron or

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Speaker 3: whatever that was. So I can't wait them to see

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Speaker 3: if we can't wait to watch them against a full strength,

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Speaker 3: hopefully Jazz or Clippers team.

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Speaker 2: Who would they rather face? Trey the Suns right now,

461
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Speaker 2: they got a couple days to rest, who they like

462
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Speaker 2: their chances against more. I'm sure they feel confident they

463
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Speaker 2: could beat anybody in the West right now, and anybody

464
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Speaker 2: in the league right for that matter, won seven straight

465
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Speaker 2: postseason games here, But would they prefer the Clips or

466
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Speaker 2: the Jazz, and you can take into account the injuries,

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Speaker 2: I would say right now to Conley.

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Speaker 6: And Mitchell, Yeah, I think maybe the Jazz just because

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Speaker 6: they're gonna play defense kind of the same way that

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Speaker 6: the Nuggets are. Like you mentioned skeets, Jokic was in

471
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Speaker 6: major drop mode and he was dropping way wait, wait,

472
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Speaker 6: way too far last and I guess he was tired.

473
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Speaker 6: But watching Chris Paul in that third quarter was like

474
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Speaker 6: looking at a family circus comic, and he was taking

475
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Speaker 6: like the longest routes possible just to end up at

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Speaker 6: the right elbow to make another jumper. And that's what

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Speaker 6: you kind of think maybe could happen against the Jazz

478
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Speaker 6: as well. Right if the go beart is going to

479
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Speaker 6: be playing his drop coverage, surely.

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Speaker 5: He'll be a little bit higher up on the floor

481
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Speaker 5: than Jokic was, like Jokic was earlier in this series.

482
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Speaker 6: But that jumper is still going to be there, and

483
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Speaker 6: that's an advantage for both Chris Paul and Devin Booker.

484
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Speaker 6: They can both live in the mid range, for sure,

485
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Speaker 6: But the Jazz have been pretty solid so far in

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Speaker 6: the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, that's a tough call.

488
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Speaker 6: Ayton played so well in this series that I think

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Speaker 6: they would also be fine rolling up against the Clippers too,

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Speaker 6: because Ayton has been able to really hold it down

491
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Speaker 6: in the paint and that's something that's going to cause

492
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Speaker 6: problems for LA if it ends up being Phoenix and

493
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Speaker 6: La in this next round here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lee, same question, who do you think the Sons

495
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Speaker 2: would rather face here in the conference finals?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sort of after Game three leaning back towards

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Speaker 7: the Jazz because of those injury concerns. Mitchell's got a

498
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Speaker 7: bit of an ankle injury and Mike Conley still hasn't

499
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Speaker 7: come back, and you just sort of saw the Clippers

500
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Speaker 7: like that was a very impressive victory the other night.

501
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Speaker 7: They attacked hard, they went into the paint, and they

502
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Speaker 7: were hitting their threes, which obviously makes a big difference.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I think with the Jazz just because from

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Speaker 7: what it's very hot, because if the Jazz are a

505
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Speaker 7: full strength though, there's such a good team at both

506
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Speaker 7: ends of the floor, and you know, you've got Mitchell

507
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Speaker 7: of course, and Mike Conley, who is a good defensive

508
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Speaker 7: matchup for the back court there in Phoenix of Booker

509
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Speaker 7: and Chris Paul, So it's kind of a little bit

510
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Speaker 7: more even in that sense, I think Chris Paul would

511
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Speaker 7: rather go up against Reggie Jackson. But then you know

512
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Speaker 7: Kawhi and Paul George there as well. It really is

513
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Speaker 7: a toss up. It doesn't matter for the Suns. I mean, well,

514
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Speaker 7: I guess they won't have home court if it is

515
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Speaker 7: against the Jazz, but if it's against the Clippers, they will,

516
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Speaker 7: which is going to be, you know, potentially a huge

517
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Speaker 7: deciding factor in this series. We've seen that, you know,

518
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Speaker 7: be a factor against the Clippers. They haven't been playing

519
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Speaker 7: well at home. Of course, they've won their last two there,

520
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Speaker 7: but other than that, they haven't been great. So it's

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Speaker 7: a toss up. Really, I think it just comes down

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Speaker 7: to health. I mean when you look at the two teams,

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Speaker 7: I mean, with Kawhi as the best player out of

524
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Speaker 7: those two teams, and Paul George when he's playing like

525
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Speaker 7: he did on Saturday night, he's clearly playoff p He's

526
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Speaker 7: much more dominant and impactful player, but he does go

527
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Speaker 7: missing at times as well. So I guess you would

528
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Speaker 7: take the Clippers because you do have home court advantage

529
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Speaker 7: and they're going to be on this incredible sort of

530
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Speaker 7: back to back schedule with I only getting a die

531
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Speaker 7: off in between, so fatigue could be more of effective

532
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Speaker 7: for them than it is for the Utah Jazz. So

533
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Speaker 7: I'd probably go back to the Clippers now.

534
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Speaker 2: I started with the Jazz. Now, like Chris paul in a,

535
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Speaker 2: I know you're hitting the jumper, but why why you

536
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Speaker 2: go everywhere on.

537
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Speaker 3: The floor the narratives skates skates, hold on skates. Asked me,

538
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: asked me, asked me, asked me.

539
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Speaker 2: Who do you think the Suns would rather face in

540
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Speaker 2: the conference finals.

541
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to agree with M four G D

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Speaker 3: and one M in the stream team. They probably prefer

543
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Speaker 3: whoever loses who's not playing very well. Interesting, I gotta

544
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Speaker 3: have to go with that. Yeah, home court advantage obviously

545
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Speaker 3: number one.

546
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Speaker 2: You think, so okay, Yeah, I don't know.

547
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 3: And yeah, the Clippers had a seven game series in

548
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Speaker 3: round one. Now likely you know, at least six or

549
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 3: seven game series here in round two. Playing every second day,

550
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Speaker 3: that's huge, That's that's huge benefit for the for the Suns.

551
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Speaker 3: The Jazz, you know, had some rest in round one.

552
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Speaker 3: And dovin Mitchell, he's playing through anything, man, He's he's

553
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: gonna fight through no.

554
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Speaker 2: Doubt the Clippers. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

555
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: That's why to see. Yeah, if he could somehow send

556
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: like Bomber packing, that'd be amazing. Or the playoff p Yeah, I'm.

557
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Speaker 6: Workshopping are really dumb take, Skeets. I was thinking about

558
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Speaker 6: it driving. For most of Chris Paul's career, he's been

559
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Speaker 6: doing these State Farm commercials where bad stuff happens. Right,

560
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 6: bad stuff always happens to this guy. Yeah, throughout his

561
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 6: NBA career up through this season, had some failings in

562
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 6: the clutch in the playoffs, we shall say, Yeah, the

563
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 6: new State Farm commercials, only good things happen for Chris

564
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Speaker 6: Paul when the insurance agent shows up. Could that change

565
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 6: things for Chris Paul in the clutch in the playoffs?

566
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Speaker 6: Only time will tell. That's why it's a dumb take

567
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Speaker 6: that I'm still work shopping. We'll see how it goes

568
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 6: from here on out, because things are only looking up.

569
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Speaker 5: When Jake shows up.

570
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Speaker 2: Now, oh okay, yeah, but but he's turning into like

571
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Speaker 2: a cardboard cutout, and he's turning into a bat.

572
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Speaker 6: He does occasionally turn into things. That's the news, spice,

573
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 6: and they brought that Cliff Paul. He showed up again.

574
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 6: He was gone for a long time, but it does

575
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Speaker 6: seem to be there's less of a sense of dread

576
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 6: for Chris Paul in these state farm commercials now, and

577
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Speaker 6: I wonder if that has an effect on his psyche

578
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 6: in the playoffs. We shlsey, Wow, Wow, that's a yeah,

579
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Speaker 6: keep work shopping that. But there's something there, Yeah, there's

580
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Speaker 6: something definitely there. All right, Well, before we move on TK,

581
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Speaker 6: something that happened in this series, of course we need

582
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Speaker 6: to address.

583
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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly right.

584
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Speaker 6: Lee cursed my vacation by saying, pretty much the very

585
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Speaker 6: last thing of Friday's podcast, Hey, what if somebody gets

586
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Speaker 6: a big beef while you're gone on vacation they're slowing

587
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Speaker 6: down in the playoffs. It'll never happen. But of course,

588
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Speaker 6: Nikola Jokic went for thirty two points, ten assists, and

589
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Speaker 6: a massive twenty rebounds on Friday Night. We've said, do

590
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Speaker 6: big games count if they happen on Fridays? Unfortunately, Yes

591
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Speaker 6: they do. Jd roll that beautiful beef footage.

592
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Speaker 2: Nikola jokicch had twenty rebounds.

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Speaker 8: That's a lot of roast beef.

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Speaker 9: Bump bump bum boum bong people purple bound pumping about

595
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Speaker 9: boomp bound pamp bound bom bom boom popo bamfong pimple

596
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Speaker 9: pop bound bumpo pumping the bumple bam bump. Hey, ma,

597
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Speaker 9: roast beef you want some I need Hey Mom, roast beef.

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Speaker 8: Bound bom bom bompomp bound bounding the bump bumpom barres

599
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Speaker 8: zoom pamp bound papoom bumpo boum bounce the bum boom

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Speaker 8: boom boom bound bump the bumble.

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Speaker 6: Bound, No dugs, we love roast beef, which is rebounds boum.

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Speaker 3: Bo wow perfect.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad he had it so badly. Yeah that that

604
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Speaker 7: might it even better. That's the best one yet.

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Speaker 5: They beef didn't take my computer with me, but made.

606
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Speaker 6: Some things happen on the phone, and of course an

607
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Speaker 6: assist from task he He messaged me. I think it

608
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Speaker 6: must have been Saturday.

609
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Speaker 5: Hey, let me know if you need help with that beef.

610
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 6: Send me the clip of Will Ferrell yelling at his

611
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Speaker 6: mom for a meat loaf. We got things to talk

612
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 6: about here, so yeah, Family Production got Laura to film

613
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 6: me just rebounding out there. Obviously got my mom cooking

614
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Speaker 6: up the roast beef fun times, you know, just boxing out,

615
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 6: just boxing out out there, trying to get the fundamentals back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like this when things get weird.

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Speaker 1: Baby.

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Speaker 2: That was like a lost scene from above the rim. Right,

619
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Speaker 2: where isn't it Leon's playing without a basketball?

620
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Speaker 5: Yeah exactly right. Yeah, at least he's like taking shots.

621
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Speaker 6: I suppose you tipped a couple of them in there,

622
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Speaker 6: but uh yeah, just a ghost boxing out.

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Speaker 5: That's the next level for the real sickos out there.

624
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: That court, that's a really fricking cool court. You're Yeah,

626
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 3: there were some pretty I don't.

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Speaker 6: Know, it's just in this random community. We're at a

628
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 6: lake house and you know, there's just a random basketball court.

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Speaker 6: I was like, well, if there's a court with a

630
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Speaker 6: gigantic puddle on it in the midst of the woods,

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Speaker 6: I better go or record some fake rebounds over there.

632
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 6: It's just it's my calling in life.

633
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: I love thinking of somebody showing up to no dunks

634
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Speaker 2: live on YouTube for the first time ever and just

635
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: came in right before that watching a man grab some

636
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: you know, fake rebound and I guess they're real rebounds,

637
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: but there's no ball, so I don't know what you

638
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 2: call them, anyway, great stuff. I'm also having some Wi

639
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: Fi connection problems here. I don't know if I'm breaking

640
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: in or out guys, but I'll keep powering through here

641
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: to our next game. Bucks even their series with the Nets.

642
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: After Kyrie's ankle injury. Who wants to get us started tasks?

643
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: What do you think?

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00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 5: I mean?

645
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: I guess the first question because I saw this going

646
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: around Twitter. Godly, if you take this angle, I'll be crazy.

647
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: Is it dirty? What Yannis did for Kyrie's ankle injury?

648
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: Was that dirty? Was that the equivalent of stepping under

649
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: a guy Zaza Pachulia, like twenty five feet from the basket?

650
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: What do you think?

651
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely not?

652
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 5: It was not.

653
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: When Kyrie landed on Janis's foot, Yannis actually looked back

654
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: and wondered, what the heck happened? If you're doing it

655
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: on purpose, I don't think you really care that much

656
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: to look down. Zaza Pachulia wasn't looking at Kawhi Leonard's

657
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: ankle when he got turned up. It's different than a

658
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: jump shooter on the outside, I think, Yannis, you know,

659
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: he just he bolted in there looking for a rebound.

660
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: It's something that does happen in the Key a heck

661
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: of a lot, And I'm judging character in this instance,

662
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: Jannis doesn't want to try and get over this championship

663
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: hump by trying to injure somebody. I'm I'm you know,

664
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: I could be a fool in judging Gannis's character, but

665
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely not what the heck he wants

666
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: to do, So I don't think he went in there

667
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: with that malicious intent. It was kind of a an

668
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: odd thing because Kyrie was jumping back instead of like

669
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: jumping forward or even jumping straight up, because he was

670
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: trying to avoid Drew Holiday's contest. And I think you

671
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: honest didn't even couldn't even see exactly what was going

672
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: on when he bolted in there. Anyways, Yes, he's an

673
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: incredible athlete, He's not zaz upa Julia. He could stop

674
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: anywhere he wants, but this is this is different. It's

675
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: it's totally different, and yeah, I can't I can't get

676
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: behind that. You know, some people, I like thought, whoa

677
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: Jannis knows how to stop on a dime. In any instance,

678
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: he could have stopped before Kyrie's legs, and he even

679
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: got to his outside leg. How the heck does that happen?

680
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: But no, I can't I can't get behind that. I

681
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: just I just don't think, you know, maybe maybe this

682
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: is also an instance of seeing six billion replays and thinking, wow,

683
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: everybody's getting injured at you know, I don't know, I

684
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: don't know where you really you go with that. It's

685
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: just a it's just one of those things that happened

686
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: in the lane. It happens at.

687
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: Nowsh said the X rays taken on Kyrie's ankle negative,

688
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: So Game five is uncertain at this point. Ley, But

689
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: I assume you wanted Gianni's tost and find, you know,

690
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars to spend night. I'm just kidding. Yeah,

691
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: what do you think of the play? And then then

692
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: we get into this game though.

693
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 7: It was just an unfortunate play. I mean, he goes

694
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 7: in to sort of box out to try to grab

695
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 7: the rebound, and you know, when we see guys on

696
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 7: the perimeter, they have the time to slide their foot under.

697
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 7: Jannas didn't go in there and think, okay, great, here's

698
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 7: a chance. It was a split second thing. And it

699
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 7: just happens sometimes when a guy comes down on another

700
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 7: guy's ankle.

701
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 5: That's all it was.

702
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 7: I mean, he was trying to be ready for the

703
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 7: rebound and Kyrie came down. I mean, can't We can't

704
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 7: look at every time someone lands on someone else's foot

705
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 7: that it was intentional. Sometimes it is, but in this

706
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 7: case it wasn't. And it's funny because if you look

707
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 7: at the play, I didn't even see Kyrie go down

708
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 7: at first. You sort of have to look back as

709
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 7: Mike Breen brings it to your attention as well as like, oh, yeah,

710
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 7: he's down, so and then when you see the repay

711
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 7: the play, it's an awful twist of.

712
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: His ankle, but it goes down low.

713
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he was down for a while and he

714
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 7: was saying apparently to the trainers, you know, don't touch it.

715
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: It was hurting.

716
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 7: But then you do see him sort of limping off there,

717
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 7: so that's hopefully a positive sign in the MRI also

718
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 7: saying you know that there's no major damage there. But yeah,

719
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 7: I mean, this happens sometimes in basketball. We've all rolled

720
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 7: out our ankles a million times because when you're in

721
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 7: the paint, especially, you jump up and there's a lot

722
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 7: of bodies there.

723
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: There's a lot of feet there.

724
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 7: If you come down on one, it's so easy to do,

725
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 7: so I really don't think there's anything there. Certainly, no,

726
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 7: he didn't have time, Yannis to sort of be like, great,

727
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 7: here's my chance to finally get Kyrie. It was just

728
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 7: just a play that happened, and an unfortunate one for

729
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 7: the Nets.

730
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: Do you care you wear ankle braces? You've had some

731
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: ankle injuries in yours best? What did you make of this?

732
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 5: I hate it.

733
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 6: I hate falling on an ankle like that. It makes

734
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 6: your ankle hurt. When you see somebody else sprain an

735
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 6: ankle like that. It looked like in an unfortunate circumstance

736
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 6: to me. You know, Yannis was just coming over to

737
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 6: challenge the shop, maybe sort of rebound in the lane.

738
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 6: He was just and his presence felt in the lane.

739
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 6: He got up a little too close into Kyrie, and

740
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 6: Kyrie landed on his foot. Unfortunately, there our feet there,

741
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 6: especially underneath the rim. I don't think that was a

742
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 6: dirty play, but I suppose if you're a Nets fan

743
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 6: you're saying, hey, why is he honest boxing out Kyrie

744
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 6: Irving when he's in the air already, which I think

745
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 6: maybe could be a fair argument. I don't think he

746
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 6: got into him enough for it to be dirty, but

747
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 6: I don't know. They said Kyrie was in a walking

748
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 6: boot afterwards, right, so that does not seem to be

749
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 6: indicative that he will be ready for game five. And

750
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 6: if that's the case, it feels like the Bucks have

751
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 6: a lot of momentum going into that Game five.

752
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into that. I mean, this is a

753
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: two to two series here now, tass I thought PJ.

754
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: Tucker was awesome here in game four. I know the

755
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: Nets think he got away with a lot of physicality

756
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: with Kevin Durant, right, sort of from the jump of

757
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: this game, he like got physical, That's what he does,

758
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: and you know they weren't going to call everything, and

759
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: that sort of maybe affected Durant a little bit in

760
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: this one. But he was also hitting the corner three.

761
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: Tucker was giving them something offensively, hit three or six

762
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: there from the corner. And prior to that game, I

763
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: mean the Nets were basically ignoring Tucker. They were like,

764
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: all right, you know, they'd have their his defender like

765
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: shade off help make that wall versus the honest get

766
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: more eyes on him, and he was gonna make him

767
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: pay in this one, and I think that's big, and

768
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: Middleton hit timely buckets. He had nineteen true Holiday I

769
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 2: thought had another brutal offensive game. He is struggling on

770
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: that end, but fourteen in the n Tucker thirteen, like

771
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: I said, and then Forbes hit ten. This was a

772
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: bit more of a balanced effort around Giannis with his

773
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: thirty plus. Are the Bucks in control? Like if there's

774
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: no Harden still and there's no account or no reports

775
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: that he's playing in game five? I mean, I guess Kyrie,

776
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: could you know it could bounce back in forty eight

777
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: hours and maybe he plays on a bomb ankle. I

778
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: sort of doubt that, Like, are the Bucks gonna win

779
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: this thing? Am I gonna somehow take one hundred dollars

780
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: from you and feel really dirty about it? Because this

781
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: is pretty rough here For the Nets.

782
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: I think the Nets win Game five, whether or not

783
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: they have Harden or kyrielup, and either either is definitely

784
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: not guaranteed. But the Nets offense was very predicted in

785
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: the second half with Kevin Durant as though number one,

786
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 3: two and three option the Bucks knew it was coming,

787
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: they were able to load up on him, but a

788
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: couple things I think are in the next favor. Kevin

789
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: Durant has had two bad games in a row, and

790
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: he's too good for that. I think this is the

791
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: best offensive player of my era. That's for sure, one

792
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: of the best players of all time. He shot nine

793
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: of twenty five in this game at one of eight

794
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 3: from three. I think they just sort of get it together.

795
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 3: I think the second half was a good little trial

796
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 3: to figure out how we're going to play without Kyrie

797
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: Irving and James Harden if they don't play in Game five.

798
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: Joe Harris also had his second bad game in a row.

799
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 3: I think that the home court definitely bodes a lot

800
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: better for their role players, especially if they figure out

801
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: how to play around Kevin Durant a little bit. Yeah,

802
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: of course the Bucks should feel good, but they only

803
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: just took care of business at home. Of course, we

804
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: didn't expect that after a fifty point loss in Game two,

805
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 3: but the Nets have home court advantage. I think that's

806
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: it's very key that that Durant sat out the last,

807
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: you know, four and a half minutes of this game

808
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: because they're ready for Game five, I think, and Kevin

809
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: Durant the bad part is for him. He has to

810
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: do so much in this series on the defensive end

811
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 3: because he's operating a lot like a five and he's

812
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: being there, you know, the rim deterrent, and he's got

813
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: to do so much offensively. I think, you know, this

814
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: team has been a really good team all year. They

815
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 3: go back to the drawing board, and whether or not

816
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: you everyone out there thinks that, oh, this is just

817
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 3: a superstar heavy team. Now they operate as a unit,

818
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: and they're going to go back and make sure they

819
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: all operate a lot better around Kevin Durant. And this

820
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: is a team that you know, only really gets it

821
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: go and win. Their backs are against the wall, and

822
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: now their backs are against the wall in a way

823
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: now that they're two too, we all know that, Yeah,

824
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: they play defensive possessions enough for one quarter to win games.

825
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: And they're up, you know, double digits in this game

826
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: in the second quarter. And I think now that they

827
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: go back home, they'll figure it out. And I just

828
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: thought it was a horrendous offensive game. I just can't

829
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: see Kevin Durant doing it again. Were talking about Kyrie

830
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: Irving down. There was the play where Pat Connaton was

831
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: down as well, and he was all bloodied up on

832
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: one end of the floor, so the Nets go to

833
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 3: the other end. They're on a five on four. They

834
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: got the power play and Blake Griffin was wide open,

835
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 3: but he kept giving it to Kevin Durant, and Kevin

836
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: Durant just passed it back. You're open, it's five on four.

837
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: Do something with it. I just think they clean those

838
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 3: types of things up. They're just not They're too good,

839
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: they're too talented. They've been too much of a team

840
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: to go out like this, So I think they figure

841
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: it out. And they were horrible defensively too, allowing so

842
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: many three pointers wide open on the other end, so

843
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: back backs against the wall. I think the Nets, man,

844
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 3: I'm not so.

845
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: Sure with both of those guys. If they don't play

846
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: in Game five, they're two stars in Kyrie. That's a

847
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: lot for Katie to do, though. I guess if anybody could,

848
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: he could easily put up a forty or fifty piece.

849
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have to be officiated a little

850
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: differently because I think Tucker wisely is he's physical with

851
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: them and that's the way to do it. And Katie,

852
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: you know, he does not he does not go seeking

853
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: really fouls Ley. That's you know, you can't say that

854
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: about him. He doesn't try and flail. You know, he's

855
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: got the classic the writ move, which you feel like

856
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: you don't even see as much from him as we

857
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: used to. But anyway, you know, he's not gonna He's

858
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: not really the whining type, if we're being honest. So

859
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: it might just come down to how they're officiating it

860
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: and maybe like the Nets coaching, you know, team there

861
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: trying to get in the official's ears right from the jump.

862
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 2: Pay Look what he's doing. He's holding, he's grabbed, and

863
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: you can't do that. But we'll see. I will say

864
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 2: good news for the Nets. You know, Jeff Green is back,

865
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: so that helps a little bit task maybe you know,

866
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 2: as another big defensively trying to take charges on Giannis

867
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But the bad news is Milwaukee shot.

868
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 2: They shot a lot of threes. I only shot sixteen

869
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: to forty seven. That's like what thirty four percent. They're

870
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: better than that. They can be. You know, they were

871
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: garbage in the first three games, twenty of eighty eight

872
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: from three in those first three games. I still think

873
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: they have a game in them. We hit a ton,

874
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: they hit their twenty plus, which you know again is

875
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: bad news. Maybe if you're the Nets, it could happen

876
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: on the road. Well, it just sort of it just

877
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: sucks a series suddenly. If both of those guys are out.

878
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how you could be happy with that outcome.

879
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: Even if I guess you're a Bucks fan, you're like,

880
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: well them, DEM's the breaks TK, It's like, sorry, buddy.

881
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: But as a sort of a neutral fan here, even

882
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: we got a little money riding on it, I don't

883
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: want to see this. Nobody wants to see.

884
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 6: This, of course not Injuries suck for everybody that experiences

885
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 6: them in all fan bases, and you want to play

886
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 6: against the best competition out there. But also if you're

887
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 6: the Bucks, you're like, Okay, now we actually have the

888
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 6: advantage in star power. That's pretty crazy to think. They

889
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 6: just won a game ugly in Milwaukee. Two teams scoring

890
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 6: less than ninety points won that one. They won a

891
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 6: game sort of pretty here in Game four, making sixteen

892
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 6: to three pointers after making just twenty in the first

893
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 6: three games. Like you said, Skeets, I think they can

894
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 6: still hit a twenty spot too heading forward here, and

895
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 6: they have had some success again the Buck against the

896
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 6: Nets defensively held him under one hundred both of these

897
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 6: past two games.

898
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 5: You don't expect that from the Nets, And I don't know,

899
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know.

900
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 6: I don't know exactly how Kevin Durant is going to

901
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 6: approach this because he's gonna have to dominate the game,

902
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 6: and he's gonna have to come out looking to score

903
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 6: a whole bunch of points, looking to almost put up

904
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 6: a forty spot. Meanwhile, the Bucks, a great defensive team,

905
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 6: are gonna be ready for that because they know exactly

906
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 6: what's coming. So they'll do their wall building. They'll let PJ.

907
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 6: Tucker do his thing. They'll have Giannis being able to

908
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 6: help a little bit more at the rim. They got

909
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 6: big old Brook Lopez out there, giving him a little

910
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 6: more than I thought he was gonna be able to

911
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 6: in this series, Jeff Green is gonna be instrumental for

912
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 6: the Nets because you assume he's gonna get some open shots.

913
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 6: And Joe Harris simply has to be better. He can't

914
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 6: be shooting like ten percent from three when you're one

915
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 6: of the best three point shooters in the game. Maybe

916
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 6: it just comes down to who makes the most threes

917
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 6: for the rest of this series. That seems to be

918
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 6: the case in a lot of NBA games these days. So, yeah,

919
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 6: the Bucks trending upwards. People were ready to have them

920
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 6: buried after them oh in two start. Some were still

921
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 6: ready to bury them after they won Game three. And

922
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 6: now we're already hearing oh man, how are they gonna

923
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 6: be able to deal with Embiid in the next round? Wow, guys,

924
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 6: flippity floppity flop flippers. We still got a long series here.

925
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 6: Everybody thought this one was gonna go long. Why would

926
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 6: it not go seven at this point?

927
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, let's put a pin in that series for now,

928
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 2: because we got tomorrow's show where we can like really

929
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: look ahead to that game five, which I believe task

930
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. Is tomorrow night. That's a

931
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: Tuesday night. There'll be just one game on Yeah, Tuesday Night.

932
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: There just that one. But we got some other series.

933
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: We got a break down here, but we also got

934
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: to take a break to hear from our sponsors. Leely

935
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: all right, let's get to the other series here. We

936
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: will go to the Jazz Clipper series. We had Kawhi

937
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: and Paul George helping the Clips beat Utah, cutting that

938
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: deficit to two to one. Game four tonight here on

939
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: a Monday task. This game happened on Saturday. We got

940
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: to go back a little bit, but it was your

941
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: big takeaway from Game three and then this series as

942
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: we go ahead.

943
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: Well, like in Round one, I think the Clippers took

944
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: a couple games to find out their rotation, to figure

945
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: out how they're going to play the superstar on the

946
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: other team and Luca in the first round. They've kind

947
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: of figured that out with Donovan Mitchell a little bit.

948
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: If I were to tell you the Clippers allowed nineteen

949
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: threes in Game three, you'd think they lost. I mean,

950
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: they lost the game where they gave up twenty threes

951
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: earlier in the series. But I think they figured it out.

952
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: They're not going to let anyone beat them at the rim.

953
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 3: They're just not going to do that. They have found

954
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: a way to be a little buzzsaw in the lane,

955
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: to have everybody sort of switching on the perimeter, and

956
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: as soon as people get into the lane, they stop them.

957
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: They're doing a really good job of that. They've gone small,

958
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: they figured out their rotation. Zubats is back to the

959
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: bench and just like against Luca. I think they've figured

960
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: out how they can do it. Now they are doing

961
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: a good job on Donovan Mitchell, because Donovan Mitchell, as

962
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: soon as he turns his back, soon he does his

963
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: little spin. Kawhi Leonard is there, baby, he's there too,

964
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: in for a double to try and get him. So

965
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: I think there's no way to really guard Donovan Mitchell.

966
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: But they're forcing him to shoot threes. They're blitzing him

967
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: when they can, and and now kind of like the

968
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: first round, everybody contributing at the offensive end too. It's

969
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 3: it's one of those one of those situations where you

970
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: got nine guys who can all shoot their bench. Now

971
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: it's it's zoobots in those limited moods. It's Beverly, it's

972
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: man and it's Canard and Marcus Morris found his flow,

973
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 3: Kawhi found his flow, Paul George found his flow. Everybody

974
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 3: is flowing. And now we've got a series. So play small,

975
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: figure out a way to blitz Donovan Mitchell when you can,

976
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: and the rotation is good, and Kawhi Leonard is back

977
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: to his full self, and so is Paul George. So

978
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: I think they're just they're just playing at a Clipper level.

979
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: It's not like he can really just point out one thing.

980
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: With this Clippers team, just like in the mav series,

981
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: we only really appreciated everybody until League got it done.

982
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: And I think they're just doing it by committee. They're

983
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: just a great team right now. It's something you don't

984
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: really think about when you think Clippers basketball, and it's

985
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: kind of boring to analyze.

986
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 9: It.

987
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: Just bored myself for a minute and a half. But

988
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 3: at the same time, that's how you win games. They're

989
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: doing it by committee. Everybody in the rotation knows their job.

990
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: What do you think, Lely from this Saturday night dominant

991
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: victory and then I know we had the Mitchell sort

992
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: of ankle injury scare there.

993
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 7: It was dominant and that's the most impressive part about it.

994
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 7: They put up one hundred and thirty two points on

995
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 7: the Utah Jazz, who are an outstanding defensive team, and

996
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 7: Paul George and Kahi they're two stars clearly with the

997
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 7: best players. But Reggie Jackson has been giving them really

998
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 7: good offense in the last couple of games here, you know,

999
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 7: hitting those three, stepping in and just giving them a

1000
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 7: little bit of a breathing, so it's not all on

1001
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 7: Kawhi and Paul to generate everything. Reggie comes down and

1002
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 7: he calls his own number and he Nathan takes that

1003
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 7: shot and he knocks it in.

1004
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: So that's good.

1005
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 7: And again I think as Tass saying that Tyler who's

1006
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 7: kind of decided these are the guys I'm rolling with,

1007
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 7: and that's basically it. And he has made some changes

1008
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 7: with Zubats. It's like you're going to get a handful

1009
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 7: of minutes, but if you're not contributing, you've got a

1010
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 7: pretty quick hook because they do need to go small.

1011
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 7: So this series is alive. I mean, the Jazz started

1012
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 7: off this game actually quite well. I think they're out

1013
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 7: eight zero and it sort of looked like, man, how

1014
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 7: the clip is going to respond. But after that point

1015
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 7: then the Jazz were in control of this and it

1016
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 7: was Donovan Mitchell again sort of carrying the offensive load.

1017
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 7: Joe Ingles hit some threes, and Clarkson came gave them

1018
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 7: some energy off the bench. But the Clippers had this

1019
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 7: game pretty much for the most of the three quarters

1020
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 7: in their command and then they just pulled away in

1021
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 7: the fourth quarter. So it's a huge game. Tonight here

1022
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 7: for the Clippers. If they can win this one, I

1023
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 7: think this series is absolutely still alive. And full credit

1024
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 7: to LA because you know, going back to that last series,

1025
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 7: I was like, if this team's behind, they just don't

1026
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 7: fight back. And now they've done it two series in

1027
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 7: a row and they get a chance tonight to tie

1028
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 7: it up. So I'm really interested to see how the

1029
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 7: Jazz respond tonight because it's obviously not a must win.

1030
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 7: They're still in control even if they lose, they still

1031
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 7: have home court advantage and all that. But they got

1032
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 7: drilled in Game three.

1033
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: They really did.

1034
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 7: I thought one of the most impressive games from the

1035
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 7: clip as we've seen this past season.

1036
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, task you if you had told somebody, oh,

1037
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: a Jazz hit nineteen threes that they still lose the game,

1038
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: you'd be shocked. True, for sure, Clippers did hit nineteen

1039
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: threes too, so that helped, and they shot a better

1040
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: percentage nineteen and thirty six fifty two percent from three. Now,

1041
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: maybe that shouldn't be surprising TK because they were the

1042
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: best three points shooting team in NBA history. They do

1043
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: have a lot of guys. Paul George is one of

1044
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: these classic like he just has games where you just

1045
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: not look all that important, like a superstar type player.

1046
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: He just disappears. You're like, okay, Like even if he

1047
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: finishes with like his twenty and eight and five, You're like, ah,

1048
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: what impact did he have on the game? But then

1049
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: you get these Paul George games where, especially when he

1050
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: has that three going, I think is such a game

1051
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: changer for him. He hits four, five, six in this

1052
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: one in game four or game three, excuse me, and

1053
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: it's just a huge momentum shift type of shot maker

1054
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: and just opens up even more guys to knock down

1055
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: threes like Canard and Patum hit a couple. So what's

1056
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: your take on this series now? Like, do you even

1057
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 2: I have a prediction for Game four here tonight? I

1058
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: know some of it depends a little bit on Mitchell's health,

1059
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: But what do you think?

1060
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 6: Tell me if this is true? They say hitting is

1061
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 6: contagious in basket in baseball? Is shooting contagious in basketball?

1062
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 5: Maybe?

1063
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 6: Because that's kind of what it feels like for the Clippers.

1064
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 6: This was the first or just the fifth time since

1065
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 6: they've been together that Kawhi Leonard and Paul George both

1066
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 6: went for thirty points in a basketball game, plus their

1067
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 6: role players hit another twelve threes if you subtract the

1068
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 6: seven from Paul George and Kawhi there So like what

1069
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 6: Tylu said after the game. He said, I don't go

1070
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 6: to the steakhouse to order ketchup. I go to order steak,

1071
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 6: which I mean bars. First off, But second off, you're

1072
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 6: exactly right. Your stars have to play like steak in

1073
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 6: the postseason. Your stars have to sizzle in the postseason,

1074
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 6: and they did because once their flow, and that opens

1075
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 6: things up for everybody else because Kawhi is the guy

1076
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 6: who's gonna get it done in the interior for the

1077
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 6: most part, I feel like for the Clippers. And then

1078
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 6: if George is able to add his support on the perimeter,

1079
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 6: that's huge. Then the three pointers start dropping. The Jazz

1080
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 6: have to figure out a way to take away one

1081
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 6: of those three things. You can give up thirty to

1082
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 6: Paul George, you can give up thirty to Kawhi Leonard,

1083
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 6: but you can't have twelve threes for these other guys.

1084
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 6: You can give up twelve threes to these other guys,

1085
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 6: but you better limit Paul George. You gotta take away something,

1086
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 6: and the Jazz have been great at taking away something

1087
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 6: for the past five seasons, so you would have to

1088
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 6: imagine that their defense is going to be a little

1089
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 6: bit better.

1090
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 5: In Game four.

1091
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 6: But the Clippers can really shoot the ball, and when

1092
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 6: the ball is really phizzing for them, that's when they

1093
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 6: get their best looks. That's why they've had so much success.

1094
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 6: Moving Nick Batoum to starting center a weird concept, but

1095
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 6: it's been working for.

1096
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 5: Him getting those shots up. I don't know.

1097
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 6: Not having Mitchell at full strength would be terrible for

1098
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 6: the Jazz. I don't think that's going to be the case.

1099
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 6: He said he would have come back if the game

1100
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 6: was a little bit closer. No, Conley is obviously affecting

1101
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 6: affecting Utah just not being able to have him as

1102
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 6: a defender as a ball mover on the other side,

1103
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe the Clips have figured something out.

1104
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 6: You can't blow a lead if you don't have a lead.

1105
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 6: Playing from behind with their backs against the wall has

1106
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 6: worked out for them so far in this postseason. You

1107
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 6: would have to think with the way Game three went

1108
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 6: that they are probably going to be the favorites in

1109
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 6: Game four. But the Jazz have another level to get

1110
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 6: to We've just seen them be one of the best

1111
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 6: teams in the postseason up until basically Game three, so

1112
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 6: I don't know, I expect that Game four shall be tight.

1113
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 5: Give me the clips, I suppose.

1114
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: I don't think this is a hot take by any

1115
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: mean or hot prediction, but I think whoever wins Tonight's

1116
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 2: Game four wins the series. I think that's where I'll

1117
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: go with this one. If the Clippers tied up too too,

1118
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: I like their chances to actually still win in six

1119
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: or seven. And if the Jazz go up three to one,

1120
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: I don't see the Clippers coming back from that deficite

1121
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: because the Jazz are a damn good team. But Tonight's

1122
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: game obviously pivotally if you want to call it that. Yeah.

1123
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if Magic has tweeted that, yeah.

1124
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1125
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 7: It isn't a weird way though, even though the Jazz

1126
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 7: can lose and still be favorite to Yeah, but it

1127
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 7: just felt like, you know, because they didn't like just

1128
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 7: smoke the Clippers in the first two games. The Clippers

1129
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 7: battled pretty well in the Jazz outlast them and won

1130
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 7: those games. But Game three in LA that was the

1131
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 7: most convincing victory. I think of the series because the

1132
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 7: Clippers just were dominant, and then are they going to

1133
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 7: stay with their small ball because that's there they feel

1134
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 7: their best way of beating the Jazz. And a couple

1135
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 7: of times, you know, you see Rudy does get dragged out.

1136
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 7: That's what they're trying to do. You know, he shouldn't

1137
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 7: come out when Patrick Beverley's on the three point line.

1138
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 7: That's when he has to stay at home there and

1139
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 7: let him shoot. But that's clearly what the Jazz is

1140
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 7: mo is in this series. And it's like, if they

1141
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 7: can win tonight, then yeah, this series is definitely alive

1142
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 7: as long as Mike Conley stays out. If he comes back,

1143
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 7: then I think the Jazz will be fine. But no

1144
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 7: sign of him, Yeah, the same bit like James Harden.

1145
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 7: No real idea of exactly when those guys will be back.

1146
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've done a good job, the Clippers have of

1147
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: making sure they they're watching Donovan Mitchell staying home at

1148
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 3: Boyan Bogdanovich and deciding Joe Engles, do you want to

1149
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: beat us? Go right ahead, Rayce O'Neil, you want to

1150
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: beat us, go right ahead. Rudy Gobert, you want to

1151
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: beat us go right ahead. Those are the guys that

1152
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: they're allowing to try and beat them. So when make

1153
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: Conley win and whispered to Donovan Mitchell at the end

1154
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: of Game three there on the bench, when Mitchell decided,

1155
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: I'm chilling for the rest of the game, the injury

1156
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: could be playing a part. Also, I don't think we're

1157
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 3: coming back. I mean, I think that those two dudes

1158
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: they're schaming, they're playing, and i'd like to see them

1159
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 3: both back for Game four because I think the Clippers

1160
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 3: have kind of figured out who they're going to allow

1161
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: to score, and Mike Conley reinserted into that lineup would

1162
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: be monstrous for them, setting up Gobert, making him more

1163
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: of a threat and scoring obviously. And Donovan Mitchell, this

1164
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: was a quote unquote bad game for him, as bad

1165
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: as it could get, dropping thirty points. He was only

1166
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: only eleven of twenty four, but it was worst game

1167
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: of the series because he is that great right now,

1168
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: and so I think he'll be even a little bit

1169
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 3: more assertive or a little smarter. He took some Damian

1170
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: Lillard type deep threes in this one that clanked, and

1171
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: he can't turn his back on the Clippers right now,

1172
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: so he's got to make an adjustment. And hopefully those

1173
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 3: two dudes were scaming for Game four. Hopefully we see

1174
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 3: them both back tonight.

1175
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: Final series. We need to touch on here. We'll do

1176
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: it sort of briefly because it happened on Friday night

1177
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: and Game four happens tonight. But Embiid and the seventy

1178
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: six Ers, they took care of the Hawks one twenty seven,

1179
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: one to eleven, so they are up to one in

1180
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: their series lead. Danny Green is going to be out

1181
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: here for what two to three weeks, I believe they're saying.

1182
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: So that's a top blow for the Sixers, or is

1183
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: it because their bench was awesome in Game three for

1184
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: Kann Cork Maz was fantastic. The entire bench combined for

1185
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: forty eight points on seventeen to twenty at shooting. Embiid

1186
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: still unstoppable. Ly, we were down there, a few of

1187
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: us were at the fortress there and it was like

1188
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 2: one of those games you know where it just like

1189
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 2: any time the Hawks would like make one or two

1190
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: baskets in a row, again, one or two stops, You're like,

1191
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: this is when it has to happen. This is when

1192
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 2: the momentum maybe shifts, and the Sixers always put an

1193
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: end to it every single time, a lot of it

1194
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: through Embiid, a lot of it through Simmons, especially in

1195
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: the second half. Well, I thought was fantastic, like playing

1196
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: with some you know, some pace and some power and

1197
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: just like operating through him, and they just had an

1198
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: answer every time. And it's like, not looking good here

1199
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: for the Hawks. Chances of winning this series, maybe even

1200
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: keeping a close I don't know. I just don't see

1201
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: how they stopped these guys. Imbiid and then Simmons when

1202
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 2: he plays like that, It's like, what's the answer here?

1203
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: Man?

1204
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, deflating loss there for the Hawks because it just

1205
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 7: felt it felt like they were just way too small.

1206
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 7: Ben Simmons, you know, the six to ten point guard

1207
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 7: who was posting up and then just feeding Embiid inside

1208
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 7: or just attacking Tray Young, whoever it was. He only

1209
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 7: took eleven shots in the game. Ben Zimmons finished with

1210
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 7: eighteen points and only seven assists. It actually felt like

1211
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 7: he had way more assists than that, but he just

1212
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 7: seemed to every time he had the ball on the

1213
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 7: offensive end, he did something. They scored, They got a

1214
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 7: good shot, they're three pointers of falling. When Firkin came

1215
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 7: off the bench, Death Curry hit a couple. Tobias Harris

1216
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 7: was secretly very very good also in this game. They

1217
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 7: just got contributions from everyone, and even a couple of

1218
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 7: times I saw Tobias Harris kind of on Trey Young,

1219
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 7: another bigger, longer, stronger guy, and that just made it

1220
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 7: at a little bit more difficult for Trey Young to

1221
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 7: get into his flow. You know, his numbers were fine,

1222
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 7: what he finished with twenty eight points and eight assists,

1223
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 7: but it did not feel like he had much of

1224
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 7: an impact on this game at all. But none of

1225
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 7: the Hawks really did. I didn't think. I didn't think

1226
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 7: anyone was sort of in that moment where it was

1227
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 7: like they can sort of do this. I don't think

1228
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 7: it got closer than eight to ten points either. And

1229
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 7: the Hawks, you know, Gallinari had a wide app and

1230
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 7: three that he clanked. They sort of had chances, but

1231
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 7: it was like even when they did, it felt like

1232
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 7: the six of them would rattle off three or four

1233
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 7: straight baskets in a row, and they had this game. So, yeah,

1234
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 7: this is a massive game for the Hawks tonight because

1235
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 7: they're staring at a douchey. We didn't think that was

1236
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 7: probably going to be the way it was going to be.

1237
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 7: After Game one, the Hawks were looking great. I really

1238
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 7: think they figured it out. But then I think Doc

1239
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 7: Rivers has also realized, like, okay, yeah, Danny Green. No

1240
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 7: one's happy that a guy's injured, but they've got the

1241
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 7: personnel that can replace him. You know, tybal Foult out

1242
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 7: of this game, but I'm not sure if he starts him.

1243
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 7: I guess he probably does in tonight's game. But clearly,

1244
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 7: if you can get in Trey Young's face and just

1245
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 7: make life difficult for him, it makes loft difficult for

1246
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 7: the entire Hawks offense. And I think what they finished

1247
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 7: with one hundred and ten or something like that. But

1248
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 7: this game was not close. The six has won this

1249
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 7: in a rump. Even though the margin was only sixteen

1250
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 7: at the end, it was never even really that close.

1251
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tesh, Like I said, some of us were down there.

1252
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: We were hanging out with some Hawks bros. And even

1253
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: they were like sort of saying, hey, at least we

1254
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: beat the Knicks. You know, they were still riding that

1255
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: wave of like, ah, you know, we had Trey Young

1256
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: quieting the MSG crowd. I mean, I don't want to

1257
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: say they've given up on their Hawks. I would never

1258
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: say that about the Hawks bros. But it does even

1259
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: I could feel from them it's like, I don't think

1260
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 2: we can slow especially in bead let alone some of

1261
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: these other guys, and Bean just goes to the line

1262
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: time and time again, and they're like, I mean they're

1263
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 2: fouls because he's a monster. It's like, what are you

1264
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: gonna do? He went to the line sixteen times in

1265
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: Game three. He's been to the line like twenty five

1266
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 2: percent of his offensive possessions in this playoffs. Like that's

1267
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: a crazy amount, but it makes sense when you're a

1268
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: guy and everybody's like, just go inside, man, go inside.

1269
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: They can't stop you. It doesn't look good for the Hawks.

1270
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: But he had a quiet twenty seven in this one.

1271
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: I mean that was that was quiet for him. Yeah,

1272
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: they definitely can't stop and they decided to double. I

1273
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 3: just want to, you know, have a watch a team

1274
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 3: that obviously had a new game plan. Hey, we're gonna

1275
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: double and be get it out of his hands. But

1276
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: then at the other end, I don't know if the

1277
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 3: lights are a little too bright for this young Hawks team,

1278
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 3: but they just didn't know who they were on the

1279
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: other end. Really, I didn't. I didn't think that those

1280
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 3: guys stepped up offensively enough. And Ben Simmons yet put

1281
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: his foot down in one quarter. Had you know that

1282
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: eleven point third quarter? And that was that. I mean,

1283
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: the Hawks had no life in them. I thought. The

1284
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: most entertaining part of the game for me was I

1285
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 3: was at the bar getting a drink and there was

1286
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: a man with a sort of a small suitcase, i'd

1287
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: call it, and it was a large handbag full of

1288
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 3: cash that he was paying for drinks with, and everybody

1289
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 3: around it US was really enjoying that. That's a Landt baby,

1290
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 3: So that was happening. You know, the crowd cheered a

1291
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: little bit, and the Sixers were a little pissed off

1292
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 3: that this happened, that they cheered when Embiid went down

1293
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: with an injury or is limping at you know, I

1294
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: was trying to shush the crowd. Flashbacks to the Raptors

1295
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 3: fans cheering when Kevin Durant went down in Game five

1296
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: of the twenty nineteen finals. Fans do that. It's unfortunate,

1297
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 3: but fans do do that, and that's really that's the

1298
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 3: only way the series is turning, it feels like because

1299
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: just the Hawks. Yeah, they just they showed absolutely no

1300
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: life and it is unfortunate what happened. I think, I

1301
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: think it really is. Even for the Hawks bros. The

1302
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 3: lights are a little too bright. I mean, I think

1303
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: that's just part of it. They just they just weren't

1304
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: in a flow. And and yeah, the Hawks bros. Took

1305
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: me back again to the Raptors two thousand and one.

1306
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 3: They're they're extremely excited that they won in Madison Square

1307
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 3: Garden in round one, just like the Raptors did in

1308
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 3: two thousand and one. In Game five. When Alvin Williams

1309
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: hit that shot, I was I was driving with the

1310
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 3: Hawks bros. On that one. Yeah, man, that's it. You're

1311
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 3: gonna win Round one, and that's about it. Been there,

1312
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 3: done that. But yeah, I thought, yeah, we saw Game

1313
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 3: one what happened. They just couldn't recoup or regroup, I

1314
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 3: guess from from the Sixers giving it to them in

1315
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 3: Game two. They just they just weren't able to and

1316
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: it's just it's unlikely right that they do that in

1317
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 3: Game four. Here the Sixers have every ounce of momentum right.

1318
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: Now, Embiid thirty nine and nine in Game one. Tray

1319
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: followed that up with forty and thirteen in Game two,

1320
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: and then yeah, a quiet twenty seven nine, eight assists.

1321
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, talk to me about those eight assists.

1322
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: And three blocks in Game three. And I think if

1323
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons is on Trey Young in Game one of

1324
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: this series, I'm not this might be a sweep if

1325
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm being completely honest. But we're here and the Hawks,

1326
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: you know, they could they could hit a million three

1327
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 2: tonight and who knows what trade does. It could be

1328
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: two two, it could be a best of three. I

1329
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: just think it's unlikely with the way em Bead's operating.

1330
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 6: Tray, Well, the Hawks don't have anybody to guard the

1331
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 6: sixers three best players, and that's gonna be a problem

1332
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 6: because Embiid can score every single time he gets the ball,

1333
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 6: or they double him and then they get a good

1334
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 6: shot from Tobias Harris. Like you said, Trey Young doesn't

1335
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 6: really stand a chance against Ben Simmons when he's engaged

1336
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 6: in aggressive trying to score inside. The Sixers are a

1337
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 6: really good basketball team, and they got taken off guard.

1338
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 6: I think in Round one they had a pretty easy

1339
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 6: first round series against the Wizards, whereas the Hawks came

1340
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 6: in playing hype off that next series, came out hit

1341
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 6: a ton of threes in Game one, got the win.

1342
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 6: That's the recipe for the Hawks getting another win in

1343
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 6: this series is hitting eighteen to twenty threes so that

1344
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 6: you can kind of out math the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

1345
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 6: But this series is over. It's just a matter of

1346
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 6: if it'll be five or six games, depending on how

1347
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 6: hot the Hawks are shooting.

1348
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: We've got tweeted the night still. We'll look ahead to

1349
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: tonight's games. But one more break to hear from our sponsors.

1350
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to tweeted the night.

1351
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: Tweed out the Knight Wow twitt.

1352
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, this tweet of the night right actually comes from

1353
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: a couple days ago, and I saw it and I

1354
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: loved it, and I thought this would be a great

1355
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: question for the guys here of no dunks, and for

1356
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: everybody in the stream team and everybody watching a little

1357
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: bit later and listening later. I guess you sort of

1358
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: got to see the photo. So come watch this on

1359
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 2: YouTube at Jeff Eisenban. Who's the first player you think of?

1360
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: And then he attached the NBA on NBC logo. Let's

1361
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: call it from the nineties. It's a great question, like

1362
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: who is the first player TK that comes to mind

1363
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 2: when you see this old NBA on NBC logo. And

1364
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: by the way, you're allowed to say John Tesh if

1365
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: you want.

1366
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 4: Oh.

1367
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 5: Basketball, come on skates.

1368
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 6: Of course when you see this image, you instantly hear

1369
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 6: the music with it, right, Yeah, that's the crazy thing

1370
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 6: to me. The tweet does say who's the first player

1371
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,479
Speaker 6: you think of? Because John Tesh high on my list,

1372
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 6: not a player Marv Albert high on my list, not

1373
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 6: a player a Madrashad very high on my list. Also

1374
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 6: not a basketball player. So first player I think of

1375
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 6: gotta be MJ. Michael Jordan. Of course, I believe NBC

1376
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 6: took over for the ninety one finals, which was the

1377
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 6: first time the Balls were in the finals, their first

1378
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 6: finals win. NBA on NBC did all of their finals appearances.

1379
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 6: But also MJ for Magic Johnson who appeared in the

1380
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 6: first finals in nineteen ninety one and then was on

1381
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 6: the call for the finals in nineteen ninety two, and

1382
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 6: I will never forget him. Anytime Michael Jordan would start

1383
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 6: having a great game in the finals. It's Michael's game.

1384
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 6: It's Michael's game. Well, it's Michael's game. Who would have

1385
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 6: guessed that thirty years later we would be reading his

1386
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 6: tweets pretty much the same.

1387
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 5: It's Michael's games, it's Steph's game. So MJ for me

1388
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 5: player one.

1389
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, MJ's a great answer. I'm sure a lot

1390
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: of people. I see people in the stream team saying him.

1391
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: There are a couple other names popping up, but Lee,

1392
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: where do you go it?

1393
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 7: It was like for me, I was like, man, everyone

1394
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 7: just pops into my head. The first player it really

1395
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 7: is Patrick Ewing For some reason. I think that's probably

1396
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 7: tied with the Marv being in New York as well

1397
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 7: and Ahmad Raschard of being the sideline reporter. I just

1398
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 7: that was the name that sort of popped out before

1399
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 7: even a Michael or Magic or even a Charles Barkley

1400
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 7: for me. So Patrick Ewing, big sweaty Patrick Ewing, Madison

1401
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 7: Square Garden there. I think that just is where my

1402
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 7: mind first went to. So that's it for me.

1403
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 2: Okay, tass any other players to add to this list

1404
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: for that NBA on NBC logo.

1405
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of think Magic and Michael at the

1406
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 3: exact same time. I just think, yeah, premium nineties basketball,

1407
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 3: and I kind of go like eighty eight, eighty nine basketball.

1408
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 3: I think Showtime Lakers. I think MJ That's what I

1409
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 3: think of. Then I think of Matt Geiger. Wow, why

1410
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, but he pops in there. He's scheming.

1411
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: Every team back then needed a very large white man

1412
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 3: playing the five, and so yeah, I don't know why

1413
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 3: he just pops in. Oh yeah, yeah he's on the

1414
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 3: team too. But yeah, those you know, Hannah Storm, you know,

1415
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 3: I think of the whole crew as well every Saturday morning,

1416
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: just hanging and then and then I automatatically thinks, yeah,

1417
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 3: you know, you can't, can't you can't, you can't. I

1418
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 3: played it the other day on the on the couch.

1419
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: Danielle doesn't usually smile at anything that comes through my phone.

1420
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 3: You know, that just happens to blurt out of my phone.

1421
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: But then she she's like, what's that? She giggled and

1422
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 3: we washed Wow. Good, good couple of minutes on the couch.

1423
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: A lot of people on the stream team saying, Reggie

1424
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: Miller for sure in the mix because of those iconic

1425
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: battles in MSG. You're rightly it's it's you know, of

1426
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: course Jordan Magic, I get that, but yeah, I think

1427
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: I immediately go to MSG the Madison Square Garden with

1428
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 2: the marv angle there and then the players. So either

1429
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 2: be it the Bulls versus the Knicks or the Pacers

1430
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 2: versus the Knicks, like those series, That's where I go.

1431
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 5: But everybody, those iconic Knicks losses in the garden.

1432
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: The ouch ouch beautiful sixty six agree. People are throwing

1433
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 2: out the stream team. Well, we got Karl Malone, you know,

1434
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: that makes some sense. They're playing in some some finals.

1435
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: There's Alfonso Ellis, okay, Scott Skyles, I see a penny,

1436
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: you know, Spike okay, not a player that left Shremp.

1437
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: People are saying that not a lot of Western Conference teams. Now,

1438
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: we said Magic and the Lakers, Barkley and the Suns,

1439
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: but Hakeem yeah, yeah, yeah, how could you not for sure?

1440
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 3: For sure dat left? Shremp tweeted yesterday when Jokic got tossed,

1441
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: did not like the call. Oh come on, come on,

1442
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 3: flagrant one.

1443
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 2: Let's get them on to argue with Leo's for a

1444
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 2: ten minutes.

1445
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 7: But you know, you're talking about Matt Geiger and then

1446
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 7: you were talking about the Raptors first victory against the

1447
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 7: New York Knicks, and then that second round in two

1448
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 7: thousand and one they played the Philadelphia seventy six. Is

1449
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 7: we got the throwback Allen Iverson in the Hawks pro

1450
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 7: section on Friday night there.

1451
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a there were some Sixers fans. There

1452
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 2: actually were not a lot, I would say, in the area,

1453
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: but you saw some of course in bed jerseys and

1454
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: some Iverson jerseys. We had one in particular standing in

1455
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: front of us, who was you know, look he was.

1456
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: He was quite vocal, but he didn't cross any lines

1457
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: I was, but I think he was more annoy kids jersey.

1458
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 7: I think it was a kids jersey.

1459
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: It was wasn't very big, I mean, yeah, but he was,

1460
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: you know, like, you'd.

1461
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 7: Rather have an I A sawzed adults jersey when you're

1462
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 7: in a kids jersey kitchen that smoke, I.

1463
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 2: Don't think so. I'd rather be able to wear your

1464
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 2: actual jersey.

1465
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 3: That was.

1466
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: That was a that was a bootleg, not bootleg, but

1467
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: a throwback. He got that at a vintage store. It

1468
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: was quite faded or maybe you had it forever. I

1469
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: don't know.

1470
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a crappy jersey. For sure. It was

1471
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: a replica. It was you know, that's what I meant something. Yeah,

1472
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 3: total bootleg. But whodos to him? You know, we're in

1473
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 3: the standing room section he was he was boxing out.

1474
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, he did hold his ground.

1475
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 3: That's I don't I don't think he left. What a

1476
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: conundrum I mean is the conundrum on Friday? Was how

1477
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: old is this? Yeah?

1478
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the weird part.

1479
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: He was drinking alcohol. It's is the nose part of

1480
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 3: the face. Is this kid old enough to drink out?

1481
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 3: Are you twenty one?

1482
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 2: He was right on the border, right on the I

1483
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: think he was just twenty one. Yeah, he was living. Hey,

1484
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: six ers were dominant there, you got the victory.

1485
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 3: Well that's true.

1486
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 5: Was this true that a kid's jersey makes you look Jack?

1487
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 5: Did this guy look jammed at the game?

1488
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 2: He looks like Jack? Yeah, that kid Jack kid's jersey.

1489
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: I don't understand this take from Elis. I got to say,

1490
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: are you going down tonight le for a game? I

1491
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 2: don't think so? And I think so wow, already giving

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Speaker 2: up on his heart.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've a game six when they come back, okay, okay, hopefully.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see we'll see pivotal games there tonight. Six

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Speaker 2: Ers at Hawk's game four seven point thirty. They're saying

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Speaker 2: start on TNT. We'll see Jazz Clippers at ten is

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Speaker 2: the second game tonight, so we'll have two games four

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Speaker 2: to talk about on tomorrow's show. Let's start wrapping this

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Speaker 2: up now. Shout out to everybody joining us here in

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Speaker 2: And oh yeah, get yourself an Athletic subscription. Go to

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Speaker 2: the Athletic dot com slash no dunks if you haven't

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Speaker 2: done that already, Clipper pros.

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Speaker 5: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 5: love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember sometimes even people who

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Speaker 3: are extremely meticulous about their teeth, like JD get teeth problems.

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Speaker 3: It's true. Genetics. Genetics that's crazy. You can brush, you

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Speaker 3: can fluss, and it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, feel better? Are you there? Still?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 2: Embrace the day.

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Speaker 7: People.

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Speaker 6: You could stay.

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Speaker 1: Every day.

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Speaker 5: And daddy happy every minute.

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Speaker 2: It's been so long that you're no wanna waiting for.

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Speaker 8: It's happened already.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be grevy