Speaker 1: Has the fish gone bad? Let's play ball. Welcome and
Speaker 1: everybody to Fantasy Bros. This is leading Off, brought to
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Speaker 1: Joey Pa Joe Piezopia with me. Today is the Welsh,
Speaker 1: and of course it's you and we're talking baseball a
Speaker 1: lot to get to the big Mike Trout news that
Speaker 1: dropped yesterday. Is it a big deal? Is it the
Speaker 1: biggest deal? Is it not a deal at all? The
Speaker 1: Mets sweep the Yankees. Max Schurzer gets a huge outing
Speaker 1: on his birthday, but he doesn't get a w We've
Speaker 1: also got a lot of injury news and another trade
Speaker 1: to talk about too. The trade wins are starting to blow, Welsh.
Speaker 1: So are you ready for the wind?
Speaker 2: I am ready for them. I'm ready to speculate and prognosticate.
Speaker 2: I'm ready for all of the craziness to go on.
Speaker 2: I do love the daily Soto change, though, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell you I'm gonna miss that in mid next week.
Speaker 2: Where yesterday it was the Yankees, today it's the Padres.
Speaker 2: The day before that it was the Cardinal, Like I
Speaker 2: kind of am going to miss who he could go
Speaker 2: to the game of musical chairs. But it will all
Speaker 2: be taken care of by Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I've seen some of the dumbest scenarios out there. It's
Speaker 1: like it's it's almost as though people covering baseball were
Speaker 1: pretending to cover baseball, have no idea how the structure
Speaker 1: of baseball works. I know, I don't understand. It drives
Speaker 1: me crazy. It's hilarious, but that's fine. I mean, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've just seen some scenarios that people have
Speaker 1: been thrown out there who work four places, even places
Speaker 1: like MLB dot com where I just got I just
Speaker 1: die just you know, really, really that's the scenario. You
Speaker 1: would think that is what's gonna get SODO done. You
Speaker 1: think you think the generational talent is gonna get moved
Speaker 1: for that, that's the deal. Yeah, sure, whatever. But anyway, Welsh,
Speaker 1: let's start with the headlines from yesterday, and we have
Speaker 1: to start with Mike Trout because that's the biggest man.
Speaker 1: He is diagnosed with a Okay, I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: say this right, controvertible dysfunction. Did I say it right?
Speaker 1: We've always been a dysfunctional podcast. Now we're constravertible.
Speaker 2: We went to completely two different songs there by the way,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to point out.
Speaker 1: But it was like we were singing it in a
Speaker 1: round almost. It was really nice, like controvertible function convert.
Speaker 1: So look, I mean, he's a one doctor says, here
Speaker 1: you go, Doctor Robert Watkins says, who is a very
Speaker 1: well known spinal surgeon in the country. This is what
Speaker 1: he does. Uh, this is a very rare thing. He
Speaker 1: has to manage it, not just through the season, but
Speaker 1: also the rest of his career. Probably. Mike Trout says, dysfunctions,
Speaker 1: fish function, no big deal. I'm all good. Uh, it
Speaker 1: feels great. I'll be fine. Every day is improving. Look,
Speaker 1: it's it's always a I'm gonna harken back to the
Speaker 1: David Wright spinal stenosis diagnosis that happened towards the end
Speaker 1: of his career. I'm sure you would call that he
Speaker 1: was never the same player after that, never the same
Speaker 1: player after that. I think this is time here where
Speaker 1: Mike Trout's had an amazing run, but I think we
Speaker 1: have to come to that moment where we realize he
Speaker 1: might not be that guy anymore.
Speaker 2: I think it's a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, how
Speaker 2: you said that? He is not. I have a hard
Speaker 2: time believing he's going to be able to function as
Speaker 2: the same player. The problem is is, I do think
Speaker 2: over the last couple of years we've kind of gotten
Speaker 2: a preview of what that Mike Trout would look like
Speaker 2: because he's had constant issues and stuff like that. So
Speaker 2: that might be where we're heading. I mean, he's been
Speaker 2: missing games.
Speaker 1: Well, it could be part of what's going on here,
Speaker 1: is this condition is just yeah, it's causing him to
Speaker 1: compensate or his body to move in different ways, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. It's like you can have
Speaker 1: a back issue and then it ends up becoming another
Speaker 1: issue somewhere else, or or you know, vice versa. It's
Speaker 1: it's the body's a funny thing. It's doctor Glen knows
Speaker 1: you hit over.
Speaker 2: Thirty and we all have had some type of back
Speaker 2: issue which is pushed into something else. So I was
Speaker 2: talking about the yesterday and it well, like I think
Speaker 2: the dynasty value is hurt here, regardless of even if
Speaker 2: it was quickly reactionary, we actually had talked about it
Speaker 2: the minute the news came down. We didn't get was
Speaker 2: how Mike Trout was like, hey, listen, It's really not
Speaker 2: as big as everybody's making it out to be. Everyone's
Speaker 2: saying my career is over. It's not. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna keep going. But I think from a dynasty perspective reaction,
Speaker 2: you got to bring him down, bring him down from
Speaker 2: maybe he was sitting into the teens down to the
Speaker 2: thirties at this point, and maybe further if you really
Speaker 2: are worried about this. From a redraft perspective, he says,
Speaker 2: we'll be back this year. I have a hard time
Speaker 2: believing why the Angels would do it at this point
Speaker 2: and why they wouldn't just pack it in with him,
Speaker 2: let him take the rest of the year to recover
Speaker 2: from this, to come into next year. This team refuses
Speaker 2: to blow this team up, so they're going to be
Speaker 2: at this same spot next year. And the third piece
Speaker 2: Joe that I speculate on, So I wonder long term,
Speaker 2: I don't see how you can keep trotting Mike Trout
Speaker 2: out into the outfield every day. Here's the problem they
Speaker 2: have quite the dh in sho Aotani. I wonder if
Speaker 2: they speculate, maybe not this year, but if they start
Speaker 2: to speculate with Otani playing more positional stuff into the
Speaker 2: near future and he gets that qualification because he's gonna
Speaker 2: have to give that up a little bit for Trout.
Speaker 2: You're either gonna take it bats away from one of
Speaker 2: the two, which I think Trout a little bit is
Speaker 2: probably gonna have to sit more often than we expect.
Speaker 2: So I think future projections, I can't go over one
Speaker 2: twenty on Trout anymore, and I won't for the rest
Speaker 2: of his career. That's gonna be my projection. But maybe
Speaker 2: we start seeing Otawni move into other spots. Maybe he
Speaker 2: plays some left field, maybe he plays some first base.
Speaker 2: Next year, you're gonna lose, you know, some of the
Speaker 2: guys that they've got in there. Just speculating on that.
Speaker 2: Maybe Otani is going to get some other value in
Speaker 2: the near future. But they're really trying to play it
Speaker 2: down for us right now. And we'll see. We'll see
Speaker 2: how real Trout's words are. If he does come back
Speaker 2: this year, if he gets back on the outfield, then
Speaker 2: he doesn't miss games.
Speaker 1: I think the Trout contract's going to be, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, one that the Angles end up regretting.
Speaker 2: I do, really, I do.
Speaker 1: It sucks to think that, Like I just you know,
Speaker 1: because I'm just bringing up a spot track right now
Speaker 1: because I wanted to see just how many years he's
Speaker 1: got left here.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he has signed into twenty thirty one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's actly, it's twenty thirty, right, and basically he's
Speaker 1: making thirty five million dollars a year from now till
Speaker 1: twenty thirty. And I don't think you're gonna get that
Speaker 1: value out of that player. I just don't.
Speaker 2: I will never There's nothing you guys can tell me.
Speaker 2: I'll never understand. Because I see a couple people in
Speaker 2: here talking about the contract. Red Baron had said, I
Speaker 2: don't understand the ten and fifteen. I've been saying it forever.
Speaker 2: I don't get this every contract. I think it's a
Speaker 2: disadvantage to baseball in general to be like, all right,
Speaker 2: here's our contract offer. It's fifteen years. Here you go, Soto,
Speaker 2: here's your entire cars.
Speaker 1: Well, they're trying to lock in the superstars before the
Speaker 1: market goes into a crazy stratosphere, because every five to
Speaker 1: ten years it does. But the problem is the commitment
Speaker 1: to the players. I mean, it's it's a sport. Guys
Speaker 1: get hurt, things happen, and it ends up most of
Speaker 1: the time becoming a bad thing. Like the deals that
Speaker 1: have long term deals with opt outs. I think the
Speaker 1: opt outs are very good for both parties.
Speaker 2: I think it should be five years. You should have nothing.
Speaker 2: You should have nothing more than five years straight you
Speaker 2: have no options. But if you have an eight year
Speaker 2: contract all three years, well.
Speaker 1: The only time a ten year contract. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're going to do a ten year contract, you do
Speaker 1: with a Wander Franco. You do it with a Fernando Tattis,
Speaker 1: you do with a guy in his early twenties.
Speaker 2: We also do it with Trout. You do it with Trout,
Speaker 2: a player like Trout. That's the type of player you do.
Speaker 2: But the problem is nobody can escape how stupid and
Speaker 2: bad fifteen year contracts are. The only time it's an
Speaker 2: advantage to teams is when these guys are like Azzi
Speaker 2: Albi's and Acuna like twenty one twenty two. The players,
Speaker 2: it's not an advantage because by the back half of
Speaker 2: their contract they're being paid way lower than they probably
Speaker 2: would five to six years max. That should be these contracts.
Speaker 1: It's good for.
Speaker 2: Everybody because baseball doesn't have a system to protect some
Speaker 2: teams and the lower teams are the ones that just
Speaker 2: decimate their rosters of these huge contracts. Then they're hampered
Speaker 2: by the financial restrictions of thirty five to forty million
Speaker 2: dollars baseball.
Speaker 1: The economics of baseball are broken, and they have been
Speaker 1: broken for many years. They refusal to have a salary cap.
Speaker 1: It means that you're I mean, look, who are the
Speaker 1: teams that are trading off. It's the Royals, it's the Tigers.
Speaker 1: It's the same old teams that are trading off. And yes,
Speaker 1: the Tigers have runs here and there, and yes the
Speaker 1: Royals made it to a World Series and one they
Speaker 1: had a window of time, but nothing sustainable. So unless
Speaker 1: you have a real hard salary cap, which you're never
Speaker 1: going to have a Major League Baseball this is what
Speaker 1: you're gonna have. You're never going to have a competitive
Speaker 1: balance that lasts ever. It's just not going to happen.
Speaker 1: So either you have to have owners who are willing
Speaker 1: to spend and go into these markets and do that,
Speaker 1: or this is what you have, which is pretty much
Speaker 1: fifteen teams are feeding the other fifteen teams. And I
Speaker 1: know that sounds like a crappy thing, but it's true.
Speaker 1: It's pretty much where.
Speaker 2: The dogs Dodgers don't care about what they do. They
Speaker 2: lost a picks, they lost a pick so they can
Speaker 2: go over the cap. They don't care about.
Speaker 1: They don't care.
Speaker 2: And the chats again. I'll tell you this, like I
Speaker 2: don't care about either side. Like I see, I think
Speaker 2: it was Wanky's talking about, well, what the player gets injured,
Speaker 2: then they can cash. I don't want the player. I
Speaker 2: don't want an injured player to take advantage of it.
Speaker 2: I don't want Steven Strasburg to be on this contract
Speaker 2: for as long as he is when he's well.
Speaker 1: This is what happens when all the money in baseball
Speaker 1: is guaranteed. And this is why in ANFL it's not
Speaker 1: you know, and this is why baseball players, you know,
Speaker 1: in in a lot of senses. You know, baseball in
Speaker 1: terms of path is a better one. All right, let's
Speaker 1: talk about some other things here going on. Jacob Degram
Speaker 1: did allow for earned runs to give up a bunch
Speaker 1: of homers yesterday, but certainly on his way back, it
Speaker 1: seems like things are going in that right direction. So
Speaker 1: fingers crossed, I mean, spring training guys usually have that
Speaker 1: one start where they're not quite there with their location.
Speaker 1: I imagine this is kind of that start for him.
Speaker 1: So I'm not freaking out like some other people are.
Speaker 1: As long as he doesn't feel ill or wrong after
Speaker 1: the start, it's fine. Matt Olsen slugs his twenty home
Speaker 1: run for the Bravest. I think Marte had that walk
Speaker 1: off RBI after Max suerz Or went seven innings first time.
Speaker 1: Sures has gone seven innings, by the way, since his
Speaker 1: injury when he's come back, So this is a night,
Speaker 1: this little demarcation for him. Bobby dallback homer twice, drove
Speaker 1: in five runs, but it was a loss. We told
Speaker 1: you get into that Cleveland Boston game last night, so
Speaker 1: hopefully you did. Hopefully you had Louis Castil yesterday too.
Speaker 1: That was our favorite DFS pitcher that worked out. Also
Speaker 1: of the Yankees acquired Andrew Benintendi from the Royals for
Speaker 1: beck Way, Chandler Champagne and TJ. Sikima. Now Benintendi was
Speaker 1: rumored to be moving for quite some time. He has moved.
Speaker 1: He's also said that he is going to now get
Speaker 1: vaccinated because he's a Yankee and they want him to.
Speaker 1: So there you have it. Isn't that sort of an
Speaker 1: interesting piece of news. I thought that was kind of odd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of weird, just like if you
Speaker 2: want to play.
Speaker 1: For US, well, I mean, I mean, I guess a
Speaker 1: lot of jobs do that, but I just thought it
Speaker 1: was kind of like, so it's more than to win
Speaker 1: games for the Yankees, but not the win games for
Speaker 1: the Royals. Got it? Got it, Andrew, I see how
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know. All of this is weird. That was weird.
Speaker 2: The trade was weird. I thought it was pretty low return.
Speaker 2: Three pitchers. Beck Way is interesting. Probably the best long
Speaker 2: term starter TJ. Tkhma just been kind of banged up
Speaker 2: for a couple of years. Was a high pick, might
Speaker 2: be a back end starter, probably more of a reliever.
Speaker 2: I just thought they would get a bigger piece for
Speaker 2: a guy hitting three twenty, but they didn't, and they
Speaker 2: just got kind of this weird haul. And there's also
Speaker 2: off of speculation. It's not one hundred percent, but you
Speaker 2: can theorize that this eliminates the Yankees and takes the
Speaker 2: Yankees out of the contention of trying to go and
Speaker 2: get one soda. They got their outfield. I think they
Speaker 2: were priced out.
Speaker 1: I told you before the Soda and the Yankees wasn't happened.
Speaker 1: They need a pitcher in the worst way. They be
Speaker 1: Bo been helping out in the worst way. That's where
Speaker 1: the Yankees are going. Maybe they'll get another bat and maybe,
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be Soda. I just that that's farce.
Speaker 2: Camillo was the big one that they were talking about.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the guy. And it's funnycause the Royals
Speaker 1: are coming to play the Yankees this week, which is funny.
Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, you guys are coming over. Oh what
Speaker 1: do you want to You want to bring a bottle
Speaker 1: of wine? Not just bird springing out.
Speaker 2: Just bring Benny. Just bring Benny a little bit that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the funny thing with the Castille thing too. Just one
Speaker 2: random slide note as well. But the Yankees look like
Speaker 2: they're gonna spend on pitching and they're gonna spin. Yesterday
Speaker 2: on the show, I speculated to be Pablo Lopez. The
Speaker 2: report came out that it is Luis Castillo or bust.
Speaker 2: So watch that funny note about Louis Castillo. We talked
Speaker 2: about the prop yesterday. I think I had that we
Speaker 2: both had that. I don't remember but it was. It
Speaker 2: was five and a half. It then moved to six
Speaker 2: and a half, went to big plus money, and it's
Speaker 2: still cash. Castillo was just an absolute money maker yesterday. Regardless.
Speaker 1: If you go and look, the Yankees get cassed, they
Speaker 1: need Castillo number one, number two. I think he'll I
Speaker 1: think he will do well there. I think that's energetic guy,
Speaker 1: and I think he's going to do well there. Pouhos
Speaker 1: ruined myke Kevin Gossman share though, yesterday because Poulos launched
Speaker 1: the home run. I thought for sure, hey, let's troll
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Right. Nope, it turned out to be a
Speaker 1: classic baseball moment where you know they line up with
Speaker 1: nobody else in it all of a sudden, beat the
Speaker 1: good pitcher, and it happens Gable a Day hit his
Speaker 1: first major league homer. So congratulations for JJ and Castillo
Speaker 1: picks up his winning which is probably his last start
Speaker 1: for the Reds. Some good news, bad news and the
Speaker 1: injury mix. Good news, Josh Young shoulder injury is gonna
Speaker 1: be cleared for his rehab assignment. So this this is
Speaker 1: a guy that can help you. If he's floating out
Speaker 1: there on the waiver wire, grab him. He's gonna play.
Speaker 2: Well, guess what. Let me give you one further. He
Speaker 2: is scheduled to d H tonight in the Arizona Complex League,
Speaker 2: and I will be over there because this guy's going.
Speaker 2: I will be right there as long as it doesn't rain.
Speaker 2: It's actually kind of rainy out here, but Josh, it's
Speaker 2: been raining all lead. But I will be there getting
Speaker 2: some video and stuff if he does and it doesn't rain.
Speaker 1: So good news on him. Good news on last. Mcclors
Speaker 1: are through fifty two pitches in the rehab assignment. Why
Speaker 1: he's throwing that many, I'm not sure, because he's just
Speaker 1: gonna end up in the bullpen anyway, or traded for
Speaker 1: all I know. I mean, that'd be fascinating. What colors
Speaker 1: I think is a fascinating piece for some other team
Speaker 1: to take on. That is one piece that I think
Speaker 1: could bring something else. I've been thinking.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean to interrupt you. I'm just gonna always
Speaker 2: do with him well, and I'm I like it to
Speaker 2: something else, you know, the Soda trades. The rumor again
Speaker 2: today is hey, Sodo to the Padres. They had the
Speaker 2: best offer, and you and I have kind of agreed,
Speaker 2: like if that and I Potters were my number one
Speaker 2: for a while. Here it's got to be Gore, and
Speaker 2: then it's also got to be Abrams. But the Gore
Speaker 2: injury makes it weird. How often are especially pitchers who
Speaker 2: are on any type of injured list or injured in
Speaker 2: some capacity, how often are they actually traded? And that's
Speaker 2: why I'm liking it back to McCulloch, because he's perpetually traded.
Speaker 2: I just don't recall like a guy that was on
Speaker 2: an I L or something being in a move around
Speaker 2: the trade deadline. So I don't know, I mean, obviously,
Speaker 2: but nobody.
Speaker 1: Takes a guy who's gonna have Tommy John surgery or
Speaker 1: just coming off. That doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: But would you even be comfortable taking the McCullers even
Speaker 2: though he's kind of rehabbing, I mean, he's I.
Speaker 1: Would feel more comfortable taking McCullers on the way back
Speaker 1: because he's also shown you at the big league level
Speaker 1: he's had some pretty good success, Like there's there's something
Speaker 1: to work with there, he's got a pedigree. But no,
Speaker 1: I mean that's not happening. Also, Well's headed to the
Speaker 1: IL for Baltimore. He had an issue last night so
Speaker 1: we'll see how long he's going to be out for
Speaker 1: us a back injury and the Marlins Max Meyer is
Speaker 1: gonna beat Tommy John surgery, which we could have seen
Speaker 1: this coming. I mean, just so obvious. It was just
Speaker 1: it hurt how obvious this was, and very disappointing because
Speaker 1: we had high expectations and now they have gone up
Speaker 1: in Smoke Welsh.
Speaker 2: I'm super super bummed about. I just saw this like
Speaker 2: ten minutes before we started the show, and that one's
Speaker 2: a bummer because he was a big redraft guy for me.
Speaker 2: He was one of my top pitchers in all the
Speaker 2: prospect Land thought the strikeouts we are going to be there.
Speaker 2: I thought the opportunity was going.
Speaker 1: To be there.
Speaker 2: And now he is not back until twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: and that decimates his value in Dynasty on the prospect list.
Speaker 2: He can return, he can be fun and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: but it is a far far plummet on Tommy John,
Speaker 2: especially nearing the back end of the year. It sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move on to can We talked about this.
Speaker 1: Six swinging strikes by Aaron Judge ties his career game
Speaker 1: high last night. All six were max schers or sliders.
Speaker 1: Which I thought was fascinating. He got him to expand
Speaker 1: the zone and Aaron Joje had Iron Judge had problems
Speaker 1: with that. Now I'm wondering, not like the book is out,
Speaker 1: because that's kind of silly, Judge.
Speaker 2: Oh are you gonna are you gonna say sell on Judge?
Speaker 2: Is he done?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: is you know Max Schurezer basically gave you the blueprint
Speaker 1: in the playoffs of what to do with Aaron Judge
Speaker 1: last night. I mean, he just pounded that if you
Speaker 1: if you have a good slider, you could pound the
Speaker 1: slider on the outside corner like that. He is gonna
Speaker 1: expand the zone. He's gonna go fishing for it. And
Speaker 1: I think it's funny because Max Sure's are such a
Speaker 1: relentless personality that he was just like, no, screw you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep doing this because it's gonna work. And
Speaker 1: I think people sometimes as pitchers, I think they they
Speaker 1: lose that site. And I think it's the commitment to
Speaker 1: staying with the game plan against a hitter like Aaron Judge.
Speaker 1: And look, if you're gonna be MVP moments like last night,
Speaker 1: can't happen like those are problems because those are the
Speaker 1: things that stick in everybody's memory. Well, you had this
Speaker 1: big spot in the big game, and what'd you do?
Speaker 1: You struck out a bunch of times. That's not good. So,
Speaker 1: like Aaron Judge had a great season. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he hasn't, but I thought this was a very interesting
Speaker 1: She's at bats. Last night when I got home from
Speaker 1: football practice with my daughter, I was watching the Judge
Speaker 1: at Bats specifically, and I was just like, Wow, Sheers
Speaker 1: is just telling you this is how you do it. Kids.
Speaker 1: You just be relentless and you're just a bulldog in there,
Speaker 1: and you just keep pounding the same thing over and
Speaker 1: over again because until he proves to you he can
Speaker 1: do it, he can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd also throw out like the one of the things,
Speaker 2: it's not one hundred percent of One of the things
Speaker 2: that also makes a slider so great is the offerings
Speaker 2: that the guy is thinking about and wanting to you know,
Speaker 2: potentially Sureser's just got such a dominant basketball and just
Speaker 2: dominant stuff in general that you're wanting to cheat in
Speaker 2: every way that you possibly can. And you know, fastballs
Speaker 2: are comfortable with and they feel pressed on other pitches,
Speaker 2: and that's what also makes it so good. But I agree,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Judge is the type of guy
Speaker 2: an entire division should consider developing pictures around being able
Speaker 2: to get a guy just like that out you go,
Speaker 2: heavy heavy slider type of pictures.
Speaker 1: The Rays get fancy like he's like, okay, well we
Speaker 1: get Aaron Judge on fastball on sliders. Okay, but let's
Speaker 1: let's let's fat ball in there. No, don't, don't, like,
Speaker 1: just just make him do it until he Joji can
Speaker 1: also fun facts here. We got two of them today.
Speaker 1: The Astros were swept yesterday for the first time all season.
Speaker 1: Wow by who. The Athletics the lowly last place joke
Speaker 1: terrible awful again. Another team is just a complete another joke.
Speaker 1: The oplan A's I mean, you know, these teams have
Speaker 1: no chance by the time this season even begins. It's
Speaker 1: it's crappy, you know. I mean, I know the NFL
Speaker 1: has that too. I know there's like a handful of teams,
Speaker 1: but the NFL, it's like a handful of teams. There's
Speaker 1: plenty of teams out there. They're in that middle where
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, like the Bengals last year. You know,
Speaker 1: if the things break right, this team could.
Speaker 2: Go on a run and then you know what the
Speaker 2: problem is too. This is another baseball issue when we
Speaker 2: talked about contracts and stuff. It is so much harder
Speaker 2: in baseball to turn that around, even though you have
Speaker 2: these big, robust minor league systems. If you do it right.
Speaker 2: These teams that are bad are perpetually bad. Like look
Speaker 2: at the Bengals. It just took it took Burrow and
Speaker 2: Chase to change the entire organization around one or two players.
Speaker 2: These teams in baseball, it is such a drag when
Speaker 2: you're a bad team. I mean, the Diamondbacks and Orioles
Speaker 2: have practically been drafting in the top five or six
Speaker 2: of the MLB draft for the last three or four
Speaker 2: years and they're just still doing all the same game.
Speaker 1: So difficult because like you know, you've seen these guys
Speaker 1: come through, whether it be Dylan Bundy, whether it be
Speaker 1: you know, they've had all those pitchers for all those
Speaker 1: years that they didn't develop, and then that set them back,
Speaker 1: and then some of the position players did not become
Speaker 1: the players that they thought they were going to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ryan montcas Is a not nice player. We'll
Speaker 1: see what Adlee Rutchman becomes. But yeah, we shall see.
Speaker 1: Another fun fact here. I love this one. This is
Speaker 1: about money players, right, guys who show up on accounts.
Speaker 1: This is from Sarah Langs, who again one of the
Speaker 1: best follows on Twitter. Starling Marte now has eleven walk
Speaker 1: off hits since the start of twenty fourteen. That's two
Speaker 1: more than anyone else in Major League Baseball. So the
Speaker 1: game on the line, that's the dude.
Speaker 2: You want clutch, got that clutch gene. I like it clutch.
Speaker 1: And look, Maher brings up a good point here, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to say nice things about him, but yes,
Speaker 1: they did have Manny Machado, and what happened? They not
Speaker 1: keep Manny Machada? Have they kept Manny Machado when he
Speaker 1: was their player for the next ten years or whatever?
Speaker 1: It is like the retention of these players is impossible
Speaker 1: for these teams because of the way it's structured, or
Speaker 1: because you know, it's funny to me because I feel
Speaker 1: like these teams make money. They all have their own networks.
Speaker 1: It feels like nowadays, right, they all have their own
Speaker 1: you know, giant TV deals. So what is it. Why
Speaker 1: are these small market teams still small market in that
Speaker 1: sense because they all have TV deals, they all have
Speaker 1: revenue sharing, So what is it? They just have that
Speaker 1: small market mentality like, well, we can't spend because what if?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous, buddy. It is like, think of these as just
Speaker 2: thirty different of the biggest businesses out there, and you know,
Speaker 2: the Yankees and the Dodgers are the amazons and Google's
Speaker 2: endless spending, endless money coming in. The lowest ones are
Speaker 2: you know, anywhere from like the small chains to the
Speaker 2: mom and pops and any money they can get in.
Speaker 2: They're just doing whatever they can to boost the revenue.
Speaker 2: It's like, what it's a thing that happens with the
Speaker 2: phoenix suns out here people get pissed off. Is ownership
Speaker 2: treats it truly like a business and is looking at
Speaker 2: the bottom line, like when they're sitting and having meetings
Speaker 2: about the bottom line and the profit in studying how
Speaker 2: to make the team good.
Speaker 1: But part of being successful product is putting a good product.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Royal we don't have a good game.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe you should sign some players.
Speaker 2: I agree that the Royals will never get the contracts
Speaker 2: that the Yankees get with like their own one network,
Speaker 2: and the advertising dollars and the jersey sales and the tickets.
Speaker 2: It's just it's never going to be there. So these
Speaker 2: smaller teams just hold on as tight as they can
Speaker 2: to every little dollar that comes in and penny pinch
Speaker 2: and it's just it's absurd, the salary caps and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. There's so many ways to make baseball better,
Speaker 2: but you know they don't care. They don't care the
Speaker 2: league players.
Speaker 1: And this day in Major League Baseball history, in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty nine, Vince Coleman was caught stealing by Nelson Santlvania.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I remember Nelson Santelvania of the Montreal Expos,
Speaker 1: and he breaks a streak of fifty straight consecutive stolen
Speaker 1: bases for Vince Coleman. Imagine if these streat stolen bases
Speaker 1: for Vince Coleman, It's pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: That's an awesome They're.
Speaker 1: Also another fun deep dive here on our boy Julio Rodriguez.
Speaker 1: Like this step eighteen home runs, twenty one stolen bases,
Speaker 1: twenty one years of age. Let's ask this question. Is
Speaker 1: Julio Rodriguez right now the most valuable asset in baseball.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's an interesting question because.
Speaker 1: Of his age, because of his skill set. Is he
Speaker 1: the most valuable potential asset in baseball right now?
Speaker 2: I think that's a I don't know how to answer that,
Speaker 2: because if you just ask about players, you know, I
Speaker 2: think the young guys you want to build your team
Speaker 2: around are Tatifs and Akunya, especially from a fantasy perspective
Speaker 2: building your team around. Also, you want the best pitchers.
Speaker 2: You could argue Shane McClanahan, but from an age and
Speaker 2: production and even war at this point, also marketing. Maybe
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe maybe he is. That's a wild
Speaker 2: thing I hadn't even really processed. But maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you had a dynasty league starting, would
Speaker 1: Julio be your one one?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't five right now overall, but he's top
Speaker 2: five overall. But no, I don't have him quite there.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the more I think about it,
Speaker 2: like Otani is the most valuable now from.
Speaker 1: If you get right, if you're if you're using Otani
Speaker 1: as both the hitter and the picture, then.
Speaker 2: Yes he is. In real life he is. He's international appeal,
Speaker 2: a bigger market.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing about an Otani trade, Like you
Speaker 1: want to talk about backing up a truck. You're getting
Speaker 1: two players like Otani you're getting. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we really need another good starting pitcher, front end starting pitcher,
Speaker 1: and the middle of the order bat. And then they're
Speaker 1: Shohe Otani, who can do both of those things. Completely
Speaker 1: to me, if I'm the Angels, this is something I
Speaker 1: consider doing because things are not going in the right direction.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this team is a page one rewrite.
Speaker 1: Nothing has gone right for them. This trout contract's gotta
Speaker 1: kill them for the next decade. They're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to win. I'm telling you, if I'm the Angels,
Speaker 1: it is top to bottom. The president, the GM, the
Speaker 1: all the scouting department gone. I'm getting rid of everybody,
Speaker 1: and I'm starting fresh, and I'm bringing in the biggest
Speaker 1: haul I could possibly get because show Heyotani, like you said,
Speaker 1: is probably the most valuable asset in real baseball, just say.
Speaker 2: And fantasy if you can play him in both spots.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a question and any type of
Speaker 2: dynasty that is I don't mean it's so specific, but
Speaker 2: if it's a daily and it's a two way. It's
Speaker 2: hands down show hey Atani, and it's not even it's
Speaker 2: not even close.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, yesterday was Max Schurz's birthday. He had forty one
Speaker 1: strikeouts now on his birthday, not in that one game.
Speaker 1: That's over his career, the most all time for any
Speaker 1: picture on his birthday. Fun fact and the trivia question,
Speaker 1: which Hall of Famer did he pass? So? Who was
Speaker 1: the best birthday boy pitcher before Max Scherz or I'll
Speaker 1: be it somebody who's been around a long time. It
Speaker 1: is a Hall of Famer. So if you know the answer,
Speaker 1: I feel like a strikeout picture, well you know it,
Speaker 1: drop it in the chat over here fantasy for his
Speaker 1: MLB if you're watching the show live and I know
Speaker 1: you are. Here's some stat hero from yesterday. Adam Wainwright
Speaker 1: eight k's, one earned seven you darvish eleven strikecast boys,
Speaker 1: he'd been good to earned run seven k's. He's been
Speaker 1: great in the last couple of games since the break.
Speaker 1: Jansen Junk, which is definitely my new favorite baseball name.
Speaker 1: Five innings, no earned, eight k's. That's right, that's the junk.
Speaker 1: Ready in your face, Welsh take that what would you
Speaker 1: give me for your for your Janson junk?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what would you get? Well, my junk's not for sale.
Speaker 2: I like to keep my junk in house.
Speaker 1: It is not Nolan Ryan and is not Justin Verlander.
Speaker 2: Just so, oh, Ryan was my guest. That was my guest.
Speaker 1: Then Marco Gonzalez two earned runs, five k's over seven
Speaker 1: hitters last night. Rowdy Till has two home runs. He's
Speaker 1: up to twenty so all the rowdy friends came out
Speaker 1: last night. Kyle Garlick two for three with one home run.
Speaker 1: So the funniest tweet about this somebody needs to do
Speaker 1: a better job of the trivia questions, the trivia or
Speaker 1: the fun facts on the scoreboard about Kyle Garlick is
Speaker 1: his name is very close to garlic, which is and
Speaker 1: not like, really needs to do a little bit better
Speaker 1: on these little things like.
Speaker 2: Wow, it will be actually more fun if if Rian
Speaker 2: Garlic did not like garlic in anything, that would be
Speaker 2: fun fun.
Speaker 1: He's allergic to garlic or he doesn't care for Italian food.
Speaker 1: There you go. Nolan Jones three for four with a ribby.
Speaker 1: We had Jose Miranda three for four with a homer.
Speaker 1: Year he's at a home run. Nolan Gorman two for
Speaker 1: four with a home run and a stone base lost
Speaker 1: speculation he is the lynchpin of the Wan Soto trade.
Speaker 1: I mean, Nolan Gorman shouldn't be the lynchpin of the
Speaker 1: Wan Soto trade. Uh, that's a failure from the Nationals. Sorry,
Speaker 1: like Nolan Gorman's fine.
Speaker 2: I actually speculated on our live stream yesterday, Bagman and
Speaker 2: I I speculated a Castillo trade to the Cardinals with
Speaker 2: Nolan Gorman involved. That was one that I was playing
Speaker 2: around with and divisionally. But Gorman being part of.
Speaker 1: A big SP trade, Yeah, that that that seems very
Speaker 1: possible that there he's gonna be part of an s
Speaker 1: P trade. But I don't know, and like it just
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's up there and he's playing
Speaker 1: right now. It's so he's tough to get rid of
Speaker 1: those guys because you've got to replace him in the
Speaker 1: lineup you want.
Speaker 2: To now, you know what, You'd be surprised though with
Speaker 2: that team. I mean, they do have Paul Deung kind
Speaker 2: of still sitting around and hitting, but they got Mundo
Speaker 2: Sosa who they really like, and if they put Sosa
Speaker 2: in at second, it would change nothing as far as
Speaker 2: them having to move their lineup around if they got
Speaker 2: rid of Gorman, and that leaves the possibility off de
Speaker 2: youong ever figures things back out, they could bring him in,
Speaker 2: or they could go get a cheap mental Infielder're just
Speaker 2: pointing out, so I actually really think that's what I
Speaker 2: really think. Nolan Gorman could go and will go. If
Speaker 2: the Cardinals are aggresive about getting a starting pitcher, which
Speaker 2: they should be, they have nobody. It is Michaelis and
Speaker 2: Wainwright and nothing.
Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you this. If the Mets don't
Speaker 1: get Sodo, which I still think is unlikely, I do
Speaker 1: think Contreras and Happ will be there with the Mets.
Speaker 1: Like I think they will have a big deal with
Speaker 1: the Cubs. They'll bring in a reliever or two. They'll
Speaker 1: bring another arm for sure, and Contreras will fit in
Speaker 1: very well with that team. Let me tell you he's
Speaker 1: he's a very intense like guy, and you know he
Speaker 1: vocal back on the top step now, he's loving life.
Speaker 1: He's you know, given high five some exchers are now
Speaker 1: like you need personalities that fit, you know, on certain
Speaker 1: teams too, And that's why I think the steal will
Speaker 1: fit with the Yankees. I think they could use some intensity.
Speaker 1: I think he's a that nice intensity about him. Stat
Speaker 1: zero's last night, Chris Archer, he was bad. Six earned runs,
Speaker 1: six walks. Well, Patrick Corbyn perhaps his swan song for
Speaker 1: the Nationals. He did not disappoint Welsh two thirds of
Speaker 1: an inning, six earned runs, no strikeouts, Ladies. Jel Of Harber,
Speaker 1: let's give it up.
Speaker 2: I think he gave up the double and the very
Speaker 2: first at bat to Mookie Bets. We had the Mookie
Speaker 2: Bets total base prop yesterday on Corbyn. I think it
Speaker 2: it was either the first or second at bat. Corbyn
Speaker 2: is magnificent, he really is. He is a piece of
Speaker 2: art in baseball. Fourteen losses on the year, fourteen. I
Speaker 2: don't think a pitcher has fourteen wins. Well, he loved
Speaker 2: the league and losses last year, I believe, yeah. I
Speaker 2: don't think one pitcher's fourteen wins. He gets fourteen losses
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: Vertlander has twelve. I think ye. It's it's stunning. It's
Speaker 1: absolutely stunning, all right. Also, bed last night, Kevin goswin
Speaker 1: five earned, Quantrill five earned. Here you go the hitters
Speaker 1: who suck Kyle Lewis over three to three k's Vados
Speaker 1: saying Byron Bucks and oh four three k's is down
Speaker 1: to a buck. Sixty nine July, Riley Green, oh four
Speaker 1: to three ks, Aaron Judge over five with three himself,
Speaker 1: kirol Off, oh four to three, Arise over five with two,
Speaker 1: Cedric Mullins over five with two, and Tommy Edmond over
Speaker 1: five with three. Mike Mayor is getting very close. He
Speaker 1: is actually in third place right now. Fun enough, here
Speaker 1: in the home run contest, Ethan is on vacation this week,
Speaker 1: so we have no home run boards, so it says
Speaker 1: Mike Mayor is in third place, but without an official board.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really want to see that. I mean,
Speaker 1: my hope is he goes to first place on Friday
Speaker 1: and then he loses it, and then Ethan comes back
Speaker 1: and he makes the new boards and he's not there anymore.
Speaker 2: You'd have to have quite a couple of days, because
Speaker 2: first place still is two homers away from second and
Speaker 2: three above Mayor right now.
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Speaker 1: over on FanDuel for the kprop. I like the over
Speaker 1: on that. He's been very good lately. Zach Wheeler six
Speaker 1: and a half. I'll take the over against Pittsburgh on that.
Speaker 1: On today's menace. Total bases one and a half on
Speaker 1: DK at plus one twenty five Welsh. What do you
Speaker 1: have today?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's actually a kind of a rough day.
Speaker 2: I think in general, I like to go back to
Speaker 2: the mookie bets to one and a half total bases over.
Speaker 2: I do like your McKenzie one. I've got tie on
Speaker 2: strikeouts four and a half over and bug me, I
Speaker 2: are going to be doing a stream over on our
Speaker 2: Twitch dot tv slash in this league doing some bets.
Speaker 2: I've got some unique crazier ones that are beyond total
Speaker 2: base and strikeouts today. That's where I would go and
Speaker 2: if you guys want to check that out. But I
Speaker 2: like your McKenzie one. Maybe the safest of the day,
Speaker 2: Mookie and ty on.
Speaker 1: Strikeouts in terms of DFS two DK, you got Zach
Speaker 1: Wheeler at ten point two over on DraftKings, Chris McKenzie
Speaker 1: at nine. Nine's a good investment. Otani's always cheap there.
Speaker 1: I don't know why eight point nine. So I would
Speaker 1: go with mackenzie and Otani. They've been very good lately,
Speaker 1: and just save save a little bit of money if
Speaker 1: you can. If you want, you can go appa with
Speaker 1: Tyler Anderson in Colorado, which is never great, but I
Speaker 1: think the Dodgers are gonna beat up on Youurina today
Speaker 1: on FanDuel Zach Wheeler at ten to seven. That's the
Speaker 1: way I would go. Tyler Anderson eight point eight as
Speaker 1: fascinating as a tournament arm tonight because he's so much
Speaker 1: cheaper than the other guy. So that's why I would look.
Speaker 1: I'd look to stack the Yankees and the Dodgers, and
Speaker 1: I would look for a home run from Freddy Freeman
Speaker 1: and Colorado Againjose, you're in at tonight. Where are you
Speaker 1: going for your home run? Called?
Speaker 2: I love yours and I was gonna just go with you,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to Mookie. I
Speaker 2: felt like I was close yesterday, and whenever you feel
Speaker 2: like you're super close, the next day, bombs are gonna go.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with MOOKI today. But I do
Speaker 2: love yours, and I almost took Freddy Freeman.
Speaker 1: And it also looks like Darren Ruff is Mike Mayer's
Speaker 1: selection here, So I guess it's Darren Roff's birthday or
Speaker 1: is it Mike Maher's birthday? I don't know whose birthday
Speaker 1: it is. The answer to the trivia question was Randy Johnson.
Speaker 1: By the way, Randy Johnson was the guy.
Speaker 2: I think somebody the first person who dropped a comment
Speaker 2: did say, Randy, Uh, look at that is all over?
Speaker 1: Look at that. Good job, buddy, well done. We'll be
Speaker 1: back again tomorrow with more amazing baseball talk. Who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get some more trades. That'd be nice. Now
Speaker 1: that some of these guys have pitched like Castillo, I
Speaker 1: imagine it's time to get on the horn. Yankees, look busy.
Speaker 1: We'll see who else is getting busy, and we'll get
Speaker 1: busy tomorrow same time, right here, new and on Fantasy Bros. MLB.
Speaker 1: That'll do it for us. But the story of the
Speaker 1: game goes on for the Welsh. I'm Joey P. We'll
Speaker 1: see you next Dome kids,