1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, not buying what Matt shaws Shelly. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: My name is Dan pant As. I come to you 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: from a virtual room filled hero Mark Sessler, Rag Rosenthal 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: and Patrick Claibon. Oh, let's legally tamper bois. I know 6 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: the first first day of you know, free agency deals happening. 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: You know we've got a big retirement. We gotta guess 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: Dan is moving and yet you know we the first 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: thing you hear on the show is Matt Shop. Well 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: that that, of course, by the way, was our wonderful 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: friend Chris Russell. Wesley wrote the definitive hit piece on 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: match Shop on NFL dot com some years back, and 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: UH was always quite agitated by him, and I agree 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: he was an agitating quarterback and that's why money hit 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: hit him with the ultimate strait just randomly out of 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: a where Matt Shaw up somewhere mounting his own business 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: and just catches this giant, massive bullet like like Mario 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: Kart size bullet. Comic. Um, yes, this is essentially the 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: opening of a new league gear. Uh. It officially hits 20 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, but as I alluded, to. This is the 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: legally legal tampering period portion of free agency, which means, uh, 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: you can connect with players and enter into agreements. And 23 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: we're getting a lot of them, uh, flying fast and furious. 24 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: It's just after one pm here on the West Coast, 25 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: and we got a lot of news to get to 26 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of signings and I'm sure boys that 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: more will come while we do this episode. And this 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: is all set against the backdrop of the retirement of 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, Drew Brees. 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: So we have Jeff Duncan, one of the most respected 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: uh columnists uh in the game, covering the Saints. He's 32 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: with the Athletic and he's gonna join us and talk 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: about after Breeze and talk about a little bit about 34 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Drew Brees legacy. So that's coming up later. But yes, 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: let's get going. Let's dig in and Uh, Ricky, why 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: don't you jump in for this too, because I know 37 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: this is uh. Look, see if you didn't know that 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: I was moving now you know a literal box literally 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: today and today is your official moving day. I've been 40 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: up before. I am where this This is like a 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: garage that's been converted into like a guesthouse because there's 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: like a kitchen behind you. It's very very attractive. It was. Yeah, 43 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: I have a lot. I have a lot of plans 44 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: for this this space. You guys, when you come and visit, 45 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: you'll see, I think where you're where I'm sitting right now, 46 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to turn into a full bar. That's that's 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: gonna get wild. It's gonna and there's gonna be a 48 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: guest bedroom behind it. So I'm very excited about the move. 49 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: I was in Culver City for seven years exactly March fifteen, 50 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, uh to today. Um and uh. It 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: is interesting though, just the way things work out, it 52 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: falls on the beginning of a new league year. So 53 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: this is, by the way, the IDEs of March, which 54 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: historically are it's an interesting time to make a major 55 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: life move. Um. Well, I have a question for you guys, 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: like Mark is always like you know, saying that he 57 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: could never you know, any of you guys could ever 58 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: afford a home, and you bought so does that like 59 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: throw you off the common man rankings? Because Sessler is 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: always saying will never be able to buy a house, 61 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: and now you and claybon our homeowners, Like, is this 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: pushing you up level? It's a fair question. I don't 63 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: think owning a home makes you not a common man. 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: I feel very fortunate. Just Patrick, I'm sure you do 65 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: as well, and maybe you could jump in at any 66 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: time here. But I'm very happy. My wife and I 67 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: have worked very hard, uh to achieve this. And also 68 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: I will say the pandemic has been horrible, but it 69 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: did save us a lot of money and whether it's 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: travel and childcare expenses, and that really is what got 71 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: us over the hump. So uh, yeah, we're we're very fortunate. 72 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: Clay Bun. Yeah, from from my point of view, we 73 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: don't like that we send the bank an exorbitive amount 74 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: of money to to let us continue to live here 75 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: in this like Pie and this guy idea that thirty 76 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: years if I still exist, but eventually I will own 77 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: the house. So it's uh, I think we can still 78 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: be common men as we are beholden right to a landlord. 79 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: That's true, I mean the bank owns the house. Let's 80 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: be completely honest about how all this works. And I 81 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: also note that some of the reasoning that the Sesster 82 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: family does not own a house could track back to 83 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: some financial decisions that were questionable. So and speaking of 84 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: the Sessler's, UM, I have two little monsters, Jack and Harrison. 85 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: Gonna drop them over at Sessler compound after today's show, 86 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: so my wife and I can do some work in 87 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: and around the house and uh close the back door 88 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: at the old place. So thank you Mark for that. No, 89 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: we can't, we can't. We've got a massive agen prepared 90 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: for their entertainment. All right, let's get to it. The 91 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: reason I have Ricky, I asked Ricky to jump in 92 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: besides asking a strangely personal question. UM. On the show, 93 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots the big stars so far, and by the way, 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm barely plugged in right now, as you can imagine. 95 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: I was scrambling doing my homework and before we started on, 96 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: and I see the Patriots are going nuts. So what 97 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: do they do? Let's start at tight end. This has 98 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: been a major problem for the Patriots. UM, feel free 99 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: Ricky to throw in a little throne of ease, Jam 100 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: if you'd like here as well. Uh. The Patriots have 101 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: not had any production of tight End since Gronk left. 102 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: They signed They signed John U. Smith, formerly of the Titans, 103 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: to a four year, fifty million dollar contract. It includes 104 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: thirty one point five million guaranteed. This is a twenty 105 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: five year old tight end who was a little bit 106 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: under the radar in Tennessee, but everybody seems to love 107 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: him and now he's getting paid like a star at 108 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: tight end. We got the two Patriots fans here. What 109 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: do you guys think about this movie? Well, this was 110 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: the guy on our show we did on NFL Network Friday. 111 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: We had a segment guy I would happily overpay for 112 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: in My first option actually was Trent Williams, but Mark 113 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: got to him before me. So I went to John H. 114 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 1: Smith and maybe Belichick's watching NFL Network getting some tips, 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: because the guy who's is the guy who's never gone 116 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: over five yards in four NFL seasons, but just physically 117 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: is a marvel to behold, fun to watch. Kin Block 118 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: is very much like a poor man's younger Gronk, I think, 119 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: with a little extra speed and after the catchability. Um. 120 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: But he's also kind of the guy and I would 121 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: throw Matthew Judean. I know we'll get to the other signings. Um. 122 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: The kind of guy that Patriots normally don't sign early 123 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: in free agency, which which is a really good starter 124 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: who's gonna get paid a little bit of a premium, 125 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: not a pro bowler. It's like when when we watched 126 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: the Ravens Titans game, you know, heading in the playoffs, 127 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: we weren't like previewing it's saying like how are the 128 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: Rays gonna stop Johnny Smith? And how are the Titans 129 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: gonna slow down? Judah. Know they're they're like really good players, 130 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: and more importantly for the Patriots, they're at positions where 131 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots are literally the worst team in the NFL. 132 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: They are the worst at capass catching and I would 133 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: say they are the very worst at having a pass rush. 134 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: So they paid a premium because they have all this 135 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: cap space and they got like solid starters. That's my take. 136 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm super excited, And I think he did have more 137 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: of a breakout year last year, like you said, for 138 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: the last four, Like looking at last season alone, he 139 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: really did sort of step up. So I'm excited for that. 140 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: We just need to get someone that can actually throw 141 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: the ball to him. So this is what I'm waiting for. 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like Cam's not gonna do it. I 143 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: think he will. I Mean, I love the Belichick basically 144 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: called John new Smith the best in the league tight 145 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: end in the league in yards after the catch and 146 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: the way he maneuvers once he gets the ball in 147 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: his hands. And so you know, sometimes Belichick wax is 148 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: poetic and then destroys that player on Sunday. Um, but 149 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: he really does value him, and they absolutely needed the 150 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: position upgrade, and tight ends takes some time to develop 151 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of mouthse defeed in Tennessee. 152 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: So I think he for a team that's still gonna 153 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: be pretty run heavy. Um, he's a really good fit. 154 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: People wonder about the production, right, but like A J. 155 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Brown didn't have like wild production. There's only so much, 156 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: uh you know, in terms of cashing the football that 157 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: that people could do. But I mean you mentioned it Mark, 158 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: When when John Smith gets the ball in his hands 159 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: and he's healthy, it's like wow, like who is this guy? 160 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: And I see why Bill Belichick wanted that. And you know, 161 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: to Erica's point about Cam, like this is something that 162 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: theres as I flip away here, this is something that 163 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: they I think they're able to do because they know 164 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: what their plan is. Right early in free agency, it's like, 165 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: all right, well, so we have Cam. He's in place, 166 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: this is what we're doing, and they are able to 167 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: get out there and make an aggressive offer like an 168 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: hour thirty minutes after the window opens to Johnny Smiths 169 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: folks and the Rosenhouse camp, and they're like, oh, okay, 170 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: well yeah, this is good. Let's I think perhaps a 171 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: lot of the times, especially this week, we're gonna look 172 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: at the total contract, which is even more pie in 173 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: the sky. I think this offseason that it normally is 174 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: in terms of like five years, eight hundred billion dollars. 175 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: I think the structure is gonna matter this year more 176 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: than anything else. But I think it's it's a nice 177 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: aggressive offer to a player that is really really fun 178 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: to watch. And I'm excited for Patriots fans because I 179 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: think they're gonna feel differently about their quarterback when he 180 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: has somebody to throw the football to. No, No, I 181 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: don't know. You can't convince me that he's not going 182 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: to be like a tasteome, you know, Hill type. I 183 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: do not. I think that we should we should back 184 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: up and say that since we've last tape, Cam Newton 185 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: signed a contract for one year's three and a half 186 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: million guaranteed five base your five or six base and 187 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: it can go up to fourteen with incentives like the 188 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Are Pro Bowl please write super Bowl O 189 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: Bowl like all that stuff, making the playoffs. They that is, 190 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: if you look at last year's salaries, it's between a J. 191 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: McCarron and case Keenum. So I do think that's instructive, 192 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: like they wanted to lock in Cam as either a 193 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: potential starter or a backup or a guy that's gonna 194 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: be competing. Certainly guy that's gonna be competing, I think 195 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: um early because they liked him at that price better 196 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: than the Dalton's or Winston's or Fitzpatrick's. That was their choice. 197 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: I do think he can be well, but I don't 198 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: think this gets him out of the in the in 199 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: the world where Garoppolo becomes available because the forty niner 200 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: signed Watson or trade for Watson, which is I think 201 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: the only you know way Garoppolo is available. I think 202 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: the Patriots could very much still be in a veteran 203 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: quarterback market. I mean, they're they're paying Cam, like I said, 204 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: back up money, but I think they have hopes and 205 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: I do too, that he can be an average starting 206 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: quarterback and that for that price, like that's a good 207 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: bargain compared to like what Wentz is making or other guys. Well, 208 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna draft someone too. I'm mean they 209 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: have been doing, according to reports, a ton of work 210 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: on the rookies, not just the typical stuff that every 211 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: team does. And I just think there's a part B 212 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: to this that Cam Newton is a bridge. And you know, 213 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: I do enjoy watching Erica slow dance with that child 214 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: that made fun of Cam Newton, the two of them verbally, 215 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: um against everything that Cam Newton stands for and does. 216 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: But um, I don't think you're gonna have to watch 217 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: sixteen starts of him next year. Now. I just don't 218 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: need him posting on Instagram, Like you know why I 219 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: work out to gospel music because like I love the ground. 220 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: It's like, come on, man, throw throw a ball. Throw 221 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: the ball. Anti Instagram takes just seething from just don't 222 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: get on the ground. And just like you don't even 223 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: need to listen to w E. I just tune into 224 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: our podcast. It's like it's like, what's like Zolac is 225 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: here is right here with us? Um just not throw 226 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: just a little cold water that John new Smith signing. 227 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: You know this is one of those classic first day 228 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: of free agency signings where we're now talking about Johnny 229 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: Smith like he's Travis Kelsey, he meets George Kittle. All right, 230 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see if he's as good as everyone says. 231 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: But there is I think important and important thing. This 232 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: is more a broad feeling and and and you see 233 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: it every year, is that a lot of these signings 234 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: aren't gonna work out. A lot of these big splashy 235 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: signings and you and you look at it on paper 236 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: and you say, oh, this guy's perfect for this offense. 237 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: He's this, he's that. Well, it's like if he was 238 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: that good, why is he not with his team anymore? Um? 239 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: Johnny Smith hit three agency, the Titans let him go. Um. 240 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it doesn't mean he doesn't have value, 241 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: but there's just a lot of flower. He talked to 242 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: us now about john Smith like he's the great. Said 243 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: it last week, We said it last week, and I 244 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: we talked about it two weeks ago. I ranked him 245 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: as my number one tight end before knowing where he 246 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: would land ahead a Hunter Henry. I do think he 247 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: like expands a playbook. And and that's the unique a 248 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: unique trade for the last year, right, But I just 249 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: mean like he can block. He is such a red 250 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: zone threat, and he fits well with a good run attack, 251 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: and I do think he could be better in his 252 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: second contract. But of course, Dan, they're playing a premium 253 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: I do think, you know, unlike the Titans, for instance, 254 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: So the Patriots looked at this year and intentionally decided 255 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: this was the year they were gonna have a ton 256 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: of cap space when other teams don't. And now they're 257 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: gonna spend it. Oh, I'm not excited. I mean, I 258 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: don't think like I got like a hundred more news items. 259 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: You're still talking about the Patriots. There's so much excitement 260 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: in the air right now. But there are the story 261 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: today because it's not just those two guys. Matthew Judon 262 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: this is these are two year, two year deals. He 263 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: gets thirty two million over two years. Johnny Smith gets 264 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: very similar. They're all basically just two year deals. Um. 265 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: Judean is a is a really good try hard can 266 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: do a little bit of everything. Pass Rusher very like 267 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: much closer to Rob Ninkovich um than Chandler Jones for instance. 268 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: When I think of like how he'll fit in New England, 269 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: and a really good player. But again you're like paying 270 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: a premium. And it's because they don't have players like 271 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: they have some of the worst position groups in the 272 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: entire NFL in the front seven and their pass catchers, 273 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: and they know it. And that's why they gave Jalen 274 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: Mills a two year contract from the Eagles. They gave 275 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: Divon Gotcha, who I liked a lot coming into free anency, 276 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: a two year you know, guaranteed money. But these are 277 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: all just like solid okay players. They're not They're not 278 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: like going to change your team, but they need those 279 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: guys because they were among the league's worst. That a 280 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: few of these positions are you are you doing something new, 281 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: Greg here? Now you're not even well, you're just saying 282 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: the guaranteed years. You're no longer even talking about what 283 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: the actual um initial figures are. You're taking it to 284 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: the next level. You're working on basically they're basically yeah, 285 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: the the Gotcha and Mills and and some of those 286 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: deals are four year deals, but it's they're essentially two 287 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: year guarantees. Yet we should have been doing that the 288 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: whole time that forever. Now, I do think started one 289 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: of the biggers coming out of this entire um Patriots 290 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: frenzy is Mitch Golden trem S. I asked if Jalen 291 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Mills will keep his green hair. He's had green hair 292 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: for years on the Eagles. Do you suddenly make a 293 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: fashion decision down the order the Atriots maybe changed their 294 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: uniforms to incorporate some green to color your hair in 295 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: New England? Are you kidding me? And a lot of 296 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: that fun, Well, that's fair. Is it one of those 297 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: like Yankees facial hair things that got banged against our 298 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: heads for fifteen years? And it was just like a 299 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: storyline that for some reason that consisted. Didn't oo had 300 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: some crazy hair with the Patriots. Didn't k he was 301 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: there for like three months. But yeah, Smith, Matthew Judean, 302 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: Jalen Mills, Okay, I'm not scared. It's it's good. They're 303 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: they're trying again. It looks like but if you're gonna 304 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: act like, oh, the Patriots are winning free agency? Okay, 305 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: but but who is acting like that? I don't I 306 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: don't think anyone. You're right on the first day of 307 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: free agency that you write those teams get like outside 308 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: the genten. But I don't feel like anyone is looking 309 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: at them adding like a handful of like solid starters 310 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: and thinking their team is totally changed. No, but it's 311 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: the same. They're being dressed up the same way that 312 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: every year one team gets dressed up this way, and 313 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: it's like they've won the week. It's like three of 314 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: these players won't be on the roster two years from now. 315 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: I mean they are getting back eight defensive starters that 316 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: opted out last year. I think getting getting High Tower 317 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: back is is uh as big of a move for 318 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: them as any of these. And then you get Chunk 319 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: back and they traded Cannon. No, Greg's not excited. You're 320 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: all in, You're ready, baby. I'm sort of the opposite. 321 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: Like I I think of like three years ago when 322 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: you had a running gag during their last Super Bowl 323 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: season that I'm not even really a Patriots fan, which 324 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: which like hit home unfortunately that I don't feel anything anymore. 325 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: But I do think it's logical what they did. Let's 326 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: move on. Enough of that. A lot of Patriots soaker 327 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: was good. They're doing well. Not They're not the only 328 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: team doing business though. Shack Barrett of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 329 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: the defending champions, they are staying in business together four 330 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: years seventy two million uh base value seventeen million, can 331 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: get up to eight million eighteen million with incentives thirty 332 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: six million guaranteed. According to Adam Chapter, this is a 333 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: nice move here, uh Mr Claybourne for the Bucks. And 334 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't happen if Mr Tom Brady, the former 335 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: Patriot doesn't restructure his deal to free up some more money. 336 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: Brady's very manageable salary for being a super duper star 337 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: quarterback is helping the Bucks in their title defense here. Yeah, 338 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna get sixty million dollars over the first couple 339 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: of years, so we can probably cool it right on 340 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: egalitarian um, just uh, you know, just a redistributing. He 341 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: took like twenty million more guaranteed. I don't get he's 342 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: not doing anything out of the goodness of his heart. 343 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: He's just got all this cash and got guaranteed money 344 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: into twenty two. I know you you kicked him out 345 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: the door. And this is the same argument we made 346 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: in New England. He never took like less. He took 347 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: a little less money. I will give that, But this 348 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: particular contract, I think, what you know, he's getting a 349 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: ton more guaranteed money. Mr Brady doing doing all he 350 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: can to to lift all boats. I think, um honestly, 351 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: like I'm looking at seventeen million and seeing what Shaq 352 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: Barrett did in the Super Bowl and through the playoff run, 353 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: and I think he gave them a hometown discount. Like 354 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: I came here and people you know, saw me out 355 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: of the shadow of von Miller, I lead the league 356 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: in sacks, I win the Super Bowl the next year. Um, 357 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: I think he could make an argument for for much 358 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: more money. Uh So in terms of the way that 359 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: the Bucks structured this, it's good for them. Um, you know, 360 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: I do think you know, the Karl Lawson's of the world, 361 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: all the other edge guys out there wouldn't have mind 362 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: shack Barrett to to take a little more money. But 363 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: this is this is the nature thing people like to win. 364 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: People like, he's the ninth highest paid edge UM as 365 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: of an hour or so ago. So you're right. I 366 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: think you're right because you wouldn't have been surprised if 367 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: he became the highest paid UM it's and and that 368 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: didn't happen. And they I thought they got Lavonte David 369 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: back and at a relatively affordable deal. Um, you franchise 370 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: Chris Godwin. I mean, this Bucks team didn't even win 371 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: the division last year, and I don't think we've even 372 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: seen how good they can be. And I think there 373 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: is a unified push to bring everyone back. And I 374 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: see Dan to your point, if if someone other than 375 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is the quarterback, a nothing that happened last 376 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: year would have happened, and be half these guys would 377 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: have signed elsewhere for more money. Uh. In other news, 378 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones is staying put. Um. We talked about this 379 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: last week. He wasn't franchised. The two sides though, kept 380 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: working at it and they come to terms in a 381 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: four year, forty eight million dollar contract. Uh. So Aaron Jones, 382 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: coming off back to back big time years, stays locked 383 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: and loaded. Uh. In the Green Bay backfield, Mark, this 384 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: one makes a lot of sense to me. I thought 385 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: it would have been a real head scratcher to let 386 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: him go when you're basically locked and loaded for another 387 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: big run at the title. Uh. And I don't care. 388 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: How what do you think of Dylan the second year player? 389 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: You have a star in the backfield. Good job keeping him? Yeah, 390 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean I guess he there is there is another 391 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: way to look at it, like maybe they could have 392 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: franchise tagged him for eight million and seeing what happened. 393 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: But I don't dislike the deal. I think that there 394 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: I know is as people are hostile towards the idea 395 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: of pain running backs. But I think there's a cluster 396 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: of guys that deserve money, and I would put Aaron 397 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: Jones in that category just because you're right with a 398 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: j Dalon. I think they do. He played well down 399 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: the stretch and they do like him. But you know 400 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: what you have in Aaron Jones? Do you go and 401 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: disrupt the backfield at this stage of Aaron Rodgers career, 402 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: in the kind of season he just came off of, 403 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I think he plays a much bigger role 404 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: this year too, in the passing game because Jamal Williams 405 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: or yeah, he's basically he's going into free agency. He 406 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: won't be part of that attack. So they kept I 407 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: think one of their best players, and along with Davante 408 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: Adams and Rodgers, you've got a triplets as good as 409 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: anything around in the NFC. They hooked him up and 410 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: they could have tagged him, and he ultimately got more 411 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: guaranteed money. On what's basically a one year deal. If 412 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: like his guaranteed money is really in that first year 413 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: and he's getting significantly more than the tag, it's that 414 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: it's actually a rare example of a team hooking up 415 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: layer up when they actually could have put him in 416 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: a in a worst spot by just giving him that 417 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: franchise tech. And they're betting that he's going to be 418 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: part of their team for a while and that they're 419 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: actually gonna get to year two and three, and and 420 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: that makes sense because Aaron Jones is awesome, and I 421 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: think the A J. Dillon pick can still make sense 422 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: because he's gonna have the same role. I think whether 423 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones is there or not, I think he's gonna 424 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: be out there for thirty. The Snaps play a lot 425 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: in the red zone, like he he looked pretty good, 426 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: and they're not gonna want to give Aaron Jones three 427 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: hundred touches there. They are doing the thing the Bucks are, 428 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: which is like let's keep let's keep everyone together. You 429 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: can do the Patriots route which they used to do, 430 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: which is let's shake it up every year is new. 431 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: We don't even want to bring back everyone when when 432 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: we're the championship team, or you can bring back the 433 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: key people. And the Packers are bringing back Peston Smith, 434 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: They're bringing back Aaron Jones, just like the Bucks are 435 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: bringing back their key guys, which, if nothing else, is 436 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: like good for fans, Like football is fun. It's fun 437 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: to root for the same players and the same good 438 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: players that like you were rooting for last year. The 439 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: Bills are another team doing that too. You get you 440 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: just get diminishing returns, right, Like, if you're trying to 441 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: constantly replace good players, it becomes something that's that's hard 442 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: to do, right. I think Seahawks fans would have been fine, uh, 443 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: sacrificing a few things to keep the legion together for 444 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: for another season. I think a lot of these teams 445 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: that did had that group of years, that three or 446 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: four years where the championship window was. I think teams 447 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: fans at least probably wouldn't mind, uh having guys stick 448 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: around a little bit longer. And yeah, you're you're doing 449 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: it potentially at the cost of the future, but the 450 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: future might not work out like this this whole thing. Well, yeah, 451 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: like the Steelers for example, like, oh yeah, we just 452 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: draft great wide receivers all the time. So we can 453 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: just get rid of them. But like eventually, it's not 454 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: always gonna work out like that. It may feel like 455 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: it does, but it's just hard to get guys who 456 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: can succeed at a high level over and over again. 457 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: It's better just keep the ones that you have. Aaron Uh. 458 00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones agent Drew Rosenhouse told ESPN we anticipated bigger 459 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: offers in free agency, but Aaron wanted to stay with 460 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: the Packers. It's all kum bay between the running back 461 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: and his team. And for some reason, Eddie Lacey just 462 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: flashed in my mind and Mark when I think about 463 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: the early days, um of whether it was around the 464 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: league or when Greg came aboard or a t N 465 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: I can't remember whichever. It was the off season of 466 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: writing about Eddie Lacey and his conditioning efforts and Beachy 467 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: in there somewhere. Yeah, he joined he did. He joined 468 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: up as a beach body member, and um, I don't 469 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: think that it didn't result in a career year by 470 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: any stretch, but he did shake some of the narrative 471 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: around his his fitness. Yeah. Well, let's remember a guy, 472 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey, guys um of the running back position in 473 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: the last few years. Is a really nice guy and everybody, yeah, 474 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: tweeted Twitter dot com. So see how claibn just give 475 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: us a little slice of humanity there, and I liked it. 476 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: Eddie Lacy, good dude. Moving on, Joe Tuney. Uh, he 477 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: has a new team. It is the Kansas City Chiefs, 478 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: the defending conference champions. I was bummed about this one. 479 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: I was hoping the Jets were gonna get Tuney, who's 480 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: a rock solid guard. Um, they wanted him last year. 481 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: I imagine they were going gunning for him this year. 482 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: But the Chiefs are aggressive and they gave him a 483 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: five year, eighty million dollar contract close to fifty million 484 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: and practical guarantees. Now I don't know what practical guarantees on, 485 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: so I don't know what that one is, um, But anyway, 486 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: this is a much needed uh splashing move here, uh 487 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. Gregg who gutted their offensive line, just 488 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: cut both their tackles. And now you can plug in 489 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: a guy that's and you know very well as a 490 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: Patriots fan. Uh, maybe not the greatest guard of all time, 491 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: maybe not Quinton Nelson, but a guy you just plug 492 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: him in. You don't have to worry about him. No 493 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: really good um starting guard who never misses a snap 494 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: can play center to if if you want, and like 495 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: those guys get paid. I I was starting to have 496 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: a theory that all these guys, including Shack Barrett and 497 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: Jude On, that they were all like just a little 498 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: bit of a discount more. And I don't think Shack 499 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: Barrett's taking a hometown discount necessarily. I just think that's 500 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: probably the market that was there for him in the Bucks. 501 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: When any tie breaks that, I think maybe all the 502 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: players are are not quite gonna hit the same levels 503 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: that they would in a different year where there's more 504 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: cap space available, which is which just makes sense. And 505 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: even that change is not a big difference. It's probably 506 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: just a couple of million dollars a year, um, you know, 507 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: ten percent difference. But then I look at this Tuny deal, 508 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: This doesn't seem like there's any discount to it. There 509 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: was a strong market for him thirty two guaranteed over 510 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: the first two years and be it basically is you know, 511 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: forty eight over three, Like that's top guard money. That's 512 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: what you expected him to get. There's no discount there. 513 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: That's what he got. That means that your jets most 514 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: likely and probably other multiple teams were We're in on 515 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 1: Tuny and you had to go big to go get him. 516 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: I enjoyed Greg. Like with these these two dueling theories 517 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: that a the money will be less because of the climate, 518 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: but be the cap doesn't actually matter. So it's two 519 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: worlds of thought not always fitting together. The cap matter. 520 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: The cap this year is there is less money to spend. 521 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: That is absolutely true. When I say the cap doesn't matter, 522 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: it's with this Tastom Hill. It's like the Tastom Hill contract, 523 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: and that even in the Brady contract, Like if you 524 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: want to push money into the future, like give Taysom Hill, 525 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: pretend hundred forty million dollar contract or Preston Smith, like, 526 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: you can do it as much as you want, right, 527 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: Like you basically can do it as much as you 528 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: possibly want if you've got an owner like Benson's just 529 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, given out those Benjamin's Ben's son Matt Mulatto 530 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: staying put in Buffalo. The linebacker resigns four years, forty 531 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: four million, that includes four million guaranteed. Uh see, like 532 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: Milana was gonna hit the open market, but instead Buffalo 533 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: ponies up for a three down linebacker who can make 534 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: plays all over the field when he's on the field. 535 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: But the Bills running the back with Matt Milano one 536 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: of the better off ball linebackers. I think that Lavante 537 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: David deal helped the Bills out because Lavante David got 538 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: top of the market money when I don't think you 539 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: would have expected him to at thirty one. And so 540 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: it's like Milano, you just slide him right in there, 541 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: right around the same money for a younger, you know, 542 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: probably more dynamic player at this point. David's obviously had 543 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: a better career, but Milana was pretty awesome. They were 544 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: very different with him on the field, and they franchise 545 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: the values continuity, right, and we see it in just 546 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: how many Carolina Panthers find their way to upstate New York. 547 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: And so they're they're able, Yeah, they they were. The 548 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 1: idea was the price. Perhaps the price would would get 549 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: a little bit too high. Uh, but in terms of 550 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: what you're actually losing and what you gain in having 551 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Matt Milano Baca, I believe that they, you know, we're 552 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: able to find that medium where it's like, oh, yeah, 553 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: you don't have to change much. You get to do 554 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: what you know that you can be successful at. And 555 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: it it makes sense for both sides, which is you 556 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: know what we're looking for and deals, UM and other news. 557 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: Kyle use Check the fullback is staying in San Francisco. 558 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: Rap sheet reported a five year deal with seven million. 559 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: It is a done deal, all signed up, uh use check. 560 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: By the way, this interesting. First of all, he's known 561 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: by everyone apparently, and I was, I guess a little 562 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: behind the curve on this use check stuff. But he's Juice. 563 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Everybody calls him Juice, and I find it interesting that 564 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: juice is good again. It's the O J thing. Obviously 565 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: Juice disappeared and it wasn't a nickname that anybody would 566 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: fixed themselves to. UM. And and what a nickname it 567 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: was for O J. By the way, because not only 568 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: was he was or Thol James Simpson, oh J Juice, 569 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: he juiced every offensive. It's one of the great nicknames 570 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: to see it get pulverized the way it did. But 571 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: now it's back, UM somewhat ironically with with a fullback. UM. 572 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: This is more on a side, but it did get 573 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: me thinking Juice is back, especially through the scandals, right, 574 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Juice took a negative connotation. That's true. It 575 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: had a double hit, it had the Baseball steroid scandal, 576 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: it had oh Ja, you thought it was dead, but 577 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: it's back with a fullback. I also did not know 578 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: this was his nickname until Greg suggested that the Niners 579 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: resigned Juice in our in our communications channel, and I'm 580 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: just like, wait, who do they sign? Who is this? 581 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: And like then I like an hour pass till I 582 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: figured this out, But um, I didn't be there. I 583 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: totally am just copying like every forty Niners beat writer 584 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: who also just it's his Twitter name, like his Twitter 585 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: name is. But this is why it was, like, really, 586 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't stop thinking about it this more. I woke 587 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: up again. The movers didn't come till seven, but I 588 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: woke up at four and I just couldn't go back 589 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: to bed. So I was just like reading and I 590 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: stumbled on this youth check story and I went to 591 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: his Instagram and uh so incredibly thankful to be a 592 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: part of this organization for five more years. Thank you, 593 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: faithful for the continuous support. Looking forward to showing that 594 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: the juice is always worth the squeeze, so he's leaning 595 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: into it. Juice's baby P's Uh. I I learned something 596 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: that um my slamming of like their signing of Kyle 597 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: youth Check like four years ago, was was so um 598 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: I guess, overly aggressive that it actually became a uh. 599 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: It became known to the general manager there, John Lynch, 600 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: who who kind of had it out for me because 601 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: of that, and I really put him on this top 602 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: one on one this time. I put him on the 603 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: top one on one. He was aware aware of how 604 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: much I slay him the Kyle uth Check signing years ago, 605 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: so I put him on the one on which I 606 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: became aware of through through um, you know, one of 607 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: our insiders. So I put him on the one on 608 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: one list this year, just saying this is an apology 609 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: for four years ago when I, you know, degraded your 610 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: signing of youth Check, which which um turned out to 611 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: be a bargain. Really he he ended up being a 612 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: great signing and I was told it was passed along 613 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: to him through back channels, you know, and he really 614 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: appreciated that that apology. This is real, This one is real, 615 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: This one's real, John. I mean, how thin can one 616 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: skin be? You read a Greg Rosendolfie slamming your signing 617 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: and you're you got your underpantsl on a bunch. I 618 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: think they just defended it. It was right by the way, 619 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: and youth Check wouldn't have gotten this much money. Again, 620 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: if other teams weren't going for him, Like all these 621 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: little Kyle Shanahan wannabes out there, they wanted them some 622 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: Kyle uth Check to They wanted the juice. They do 623 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: read this stuff, because I can remember a time when Um, 624 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah came up to me said, Okay, I just 625 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: want to let you know that like David called well 626 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: the Jaguars gm um read something that you said slamming 627 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: Jacksonville and basically came up to DJ was like, who 628 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: the f is this Mark Sessler clown? And it's like 629 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: that's how you build connections. All right, let's push pause 630 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: here because we have a very special guest to introduce. Yes, 631 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: he is a calumnist for the Athletic, one of the 632 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: most respected guys in the game, uh and all. And 633 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: they're good for this man because he just happens to 634 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: have a book that he put out recently called Peyton 635 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: and Breeze, The Men Who Built the Greatest offense in NFL. 636 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: His three look at Jeff Duggan now on the timeliness 637 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: in a big spot for moving units of his book. 638 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: Welcome for the first time, Good sir, to be around 639 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Thanks guys. Yeah, my timing was good 640 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: on that one. I was really worried Drew was gonna 641 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: retire last year before the book even came out. That 642 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: would not have been nearly as good the timing, So 643 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: we were fortunate there. I might have even paid a 644 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: little under the table to hang off for I was 645 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: gonna say, did you convince him to come back for 646 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: this final season? That would be very kind. I did begging, 647 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: but I don't think my handshake was gonna alright, So 648 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: Jeff and thank you again for joining us. And we 649 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: want to just kind of get an update lay of 650 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: the land. What's going on in New Orleans is it's 651 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: the end of an era. But I want to start 652 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: the conversation, uh this way. And it comes from your 653 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: Twitter account. Your favorite quote on Drew Brees comes from 654 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: a long time performance coach Tom House. Drew is a 655 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: superstar without superpowers. Drew will have a spectacular play or two, 656 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: but he's not a spectacular quarterback. He's just the best 657 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: fire who's ever thrown a football. Drew Brees, who retired 658 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: officially on Sunday. Uh, that does sum it up, right, 659 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: because the guy that barely reached six ft tall never 660 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: looked like an all time great quarterback, but he's sure 661 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: as hell played like one for a long time. Yeah, 662 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: it's a great quote. Tom House is a penchant for 663 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: those kind of quotes, but it really does some of Breeze. 664 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: I think Breeze was kind of the Greg Maddox the quarterbacks, right. 665 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the guy that paints the black, doesn't 666 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: overpower you with the big arm. He's not Nolan Ryan 667 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: like say Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes. And I think 668 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: in this day and age, guys where you know, everything's 669 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: social media, of viral gifts of exploits by Patrick Mahomes 670 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: thrown across his body fifty yards downfield, that's not Breeze. 671 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: He He takes a more sophisticated approach and a nuanced 672 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: approach to appreciate his greatness. And I've been fortunate because 673 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: I've been here for his whole career, fifteen years of 674 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: covering him and seeing it over and over. You really 675 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: have to. I mean, you really learn to appreciate his brilliance. 676 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: It's not the physical assets, it's it's the commitment to drive, 677 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: the attention to details, all those of tangibles, and then 678 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: his ability during games the process so quickly and then 679 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: to make those accurate throws like no one we've ever 680 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: seen in the AIME. I mean, he's gonna be the 681 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: all time most accurate pastor, and that's gonna be I think, 682 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: his greatest legacy. I think you know, you think Saints, 683 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: you think Peyton and Breeze. I also think Jeff Duncan, 684 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: because you know, you've been there the whole time. I 685 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: followed the team. You were, You were there before uh 686 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you were there for the San Antonio you know, 687 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: post Katrina season, and so you sort of saw the 688 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: impact freezing Peyton had. The thing I'm curious about, Jeff, 689 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: from seeing it up close so much. Are you surprised 690 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: that ended up lasting as long as it did without 691 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: blowing up? Because there were some moments, you know, post 692 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: bounty Gates. Certainly in the seven and nine series of seasons, 693 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: there was off field stuff with Peyton. You wondered if 694 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: he was gonna leave, Like, what do you think kept 695 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: in the end? What what ended up? You know, keep 696 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: kept them together all that time to the point where 697 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: they just had, you know, a four year run that 698 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: was actually better than any four year run in the 699 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: regular season that than they ever had with Breese. Well, 700 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of reasons, Greg, you know, 701 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: and you make a good point. We haven't seen that 702 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: type of collaboration last as long as this this duo 703 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: did right fifteen years. Look at Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers. 704 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: It kind of went south on them in Green Bay. 705 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Mike McCarthy. I 706 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: covered him down here with the Saints. Uh, he's a 707 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: great coach. It just things went south and went stayale 708 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: on them. The same thing happened with Andy Reid in Philadelphia, 709 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: right he had to move on, goes to Kansas City 710 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: and and has this you know, resurrected career, and it 711 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: never happened in the Orleans. I think because both these 712 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: guys understood that they weren't going to be the same 713 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: without each other. I think that both of them are 714 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: very smart, and both of them have great instincts, and 715 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: I think they understood that each one complimented each other. 716 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: And I think you also have to give Mickey Lewis 717 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: a lot of credit the general manager, because, as you mentioned, 718 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: some things did occur on and off the field that 719 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: could have led to this breakup of this marriage between 720 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: quarterback and head coach. And we really haven't seen anything 721 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: like it in NFL history. What I mean by that 722 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: is we've never seen a quarterback, an elite quarterback like 723 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: Breeze paired up with an offensive mind like Sean Payton. 724 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: If you think about all the great quarterbacks in history, 725 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: they've never had someone coaching them that also played quarterback 726 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 1: like Sean Payton did, and who has that keen understanding 727 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: of how important that role is, especially in the day's game. 728 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: So I think that also made it a significant collaboration, 729 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,919 Speaker 1: and and both those guys realizing they could not find 730 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: it anywhere else like they had it here. In your 731 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: feature two, which is was a great read, Um, you 732 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: had a quote from James Carville that basically, you know, 733 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: said that he thought Drew Brees was one of the 734 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: most important New Orleans citizens in modern history. I mean, 735 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: there's that whole side of it. You could argue had 736 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: more of an impact on a city, but quarterback on 737 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: a city than Tom Brady in New England, um, or 738 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: really anyone. I mean what happened in the in the 739 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: timing of Katrina, all that he is wove into the 740 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: fabric of New Orleans forever. Yeah, I mean it's it's amazing. 741 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: And you you have to be here, and I know 742 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: Greg lived here for a while. I mean you have 743 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: to understand the one is such a idiosyncratic city in America. 744 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: It's unlike any place in in in this nation. The 745 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: European influence here, it makes it very provincial. It's almost 746 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: like a superman of the NFL, you know, like a 747 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: Texas small town football passion, which I didn't know when 748 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: I moved here. I had no idea the Saints were 749 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 1: this passionately followed by the fan base. I mean people 750 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: here named their kids after Drew Brees. They named their 751 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: pets after Drew Brees. Uh. You go to a game 752 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: all races, creeds, religions, ages wearing number nine jerseys. He's 753 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: easily the most popular person, not just athlete or entertainer 754 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: person since I've lived here in two decades. I mean, 755 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: there's no one even close to him, And I think 756 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: to your point about Carvel's comment, which I thought was 757 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: very a student. Uh. You know, this city for centuries 758 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: had a reputation of really corrupt political office leadership, a 759 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: lot of backroom deals here. People don't trust anybody, and 760 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: so all of a sudden you had this really competent, 761 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 1: earnest leader walk into their midst who picked New Orleans 762 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: right after Hurricane Country. And he had options. He could 763 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: have go on the South Beach and quarterback Nick Sabans Dolphins. Instead, 764 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: he picked New Orleans at a time when no one 765 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: was coming here, everybody was leaving town, and I think 766 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: people immediately gravitated to him. And then they saw the 767 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: success on the field, immediate surprising success, and you know, 768 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: all those things added up to making him as popular 769 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: as he was. Do you get the feeling, uh, Jeff, 770 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: that there was any waffling on this, because it was 771 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: becoming a bit of a running joke on this podcast 772 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: and I was checking in, Hey, he hasn't retired yet, 773 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: and there was that report out there that he was 774 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, setting records, uh, pushing a sled or whatever, 775 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: and it was just like, was this do you do 776 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: you get the vibe? This was a difficult decision or 777 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: was this a done deal as soon as the playoffs 778 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: wrapped up this year? Yeah, it was done. It's been 779 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: done for weeks. We we though, I will say this, 780 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: everyone in the media was dying wondering. Well, maybe he 781 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: did have second thoughts, because I was told by a 782 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: lot of people internally right after the season that there 783 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: would be an announcement, probably after the Super Bowl, and 784 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: so internally the Saints were in lockstep with Breeze. But 785 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: I think as calculating as he is, as considerate as 786 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: he is, his attention to detail we talked about, I 787 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: think he wanted to do it on a special day, 788 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: and picking the fifteen y anniversary made a lot of 789 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: sense to me. It was very much on brand for 790 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. Jeff, you had mentioned the the union, right 791 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: and how they were better together than apart. Well, here 792 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: here we are there, they're going to be a part. 793 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: And Sean had definitely ingratiated himself to the fan base 794 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: even more through the way that. I think we saw 795 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: the way things played out with Drew and how loyal 796 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: he was. So now we're in this Sean only era 797 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: of the Saints. How different is that going to be well. 798 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: I can tell you this. I think Sean fee He'll 799 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: probably never admit this publicly, but he's invigorated by the 800 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: challenge ahead as a head coach. I think he's looking 801 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: forward to try and rebuild this offense in a different 802 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: way around a different quarterback with different skill sets than 803 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. And he had a chance to do it 804 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 1: on a little bit of a limited basis the last 805 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: couple of seasons when Teddy Bridgewater filled in and Taysom 806 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: Hill this past season. But I think trying to rebuild 807 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: championship level team around a different quarterback I think is 808 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: stimulating to him intellectually and psychologically. I think he's looking 809 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: forward to it, and I think the roster here is 810 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: good enough and a lot of other places defensively, uh, 811 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, along the offensive line obviously, I'm a Camaro, 812 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: Mike Thomas or all pro level talents that this isn't 813 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: gonna be quite like what we saw in New England 814 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: last year when Tom Brady left. I think the roster 815 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: in New England's better on both sides of the ball 816 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: than than what Belichick had last season. Well, Belichick thought 817 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: he was getting reinvigorated and everything until they went seven 818 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: and nine. He was all excited about it to tell 819 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: me it's gonna be Jamis though not Taste Hell, because 820 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: I've been kind of dying on Jamis Winston corner here 821 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: for a while, and you know this is to me, 822 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: this is gonna be his chance. I just heard Kurt 823 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: Warner on our network say he thought Jamis Winston when 824 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: he was in Tampa, and I'm using his words. Kurt 825 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: Warner was in the top seven in the NFL. Pick 826 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,439 Speaker 1: that number out of the air in how he could 827 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: read defense and see the field. And I was like, 828 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: if Kurt, if Kurt, if that's good enough for Kurt Warner, 829 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: it's good enough for me. Do you think it's good 830 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: enough for shun Page. Let me just jump in, Jeff 831 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: before you answer here, and I apologize Greg didn't do 832 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: his homework. He doesn't know the taste Bill just signed 833 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: a four year, one forty million dollar deal, so there's 834 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: no question who the franchise quarterback is in Nola. Yeah. 835 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of funny money in that deal. 836 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: By the way, guys, I don't know if you'll ever 837 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: see that hut, but look, I think they're gonna be 838 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: a competition in the fall between those two. And I'm 839 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: assuming Jamis Winston is gonna resign here in the in 840 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: the days ahead because they made him a priority, and 841 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: I know that they've had a lot of communications, so 842 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: I expect that to happen. But I think it will 843 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: be a lot like a deal that Drew Brees signed 844 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: here in two thousand and six, if you remember. I 845 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: mean the narratives kind of been written now, but it 846 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: was not a done sure thing when they signed Brees. 847 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean they had an outclause after one year that 848 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: it it wasn't working out, if he wasn't healthy, they 849 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: could walk away. Drew Brees could walk away. Uh. So 850 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: you know it's been rewritten a little bit that there 851 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: was this love at first sight thing, but uh, they 852 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: definitely left themselves an option. I think the Saints will 853 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 1: do the same thing with Jamis Winston if it doesn't 854 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: work out. But I tell you, internally, coaches here, players, teammates, 855 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: they all love Jamis Wintson. I've not heard one negative 856 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: word about him. But again, I think I heard the 857 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: same things about Cam Newton and the marriage up in 858 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: New England, and it was gonna be the Patriot way 859 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: it was all gonna work out, and it didn't quite 860 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 1: work out. So I'm kind of been showing me mode 861 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: down here. I have a quick one for you. Drew 862 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: Brees now becomes an announcer um, which is a very 863 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: chic thing for quarterbacks to do. And you've got Tony 864 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 1: Romo setting the bar so high. Do you knowing Drew Brees, 865 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: do you think, um wow, this guy is gonna be 866 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: an awesome UM color analyst for Notre Dame. Well, I 867 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be amazing and describing the game, uh, 868 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, making it easy to understand for the casual viewer. 869 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: But I don't think he's ever going to criticize anybody. 870 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: Breeze never. He never says anything bad about anybody. So 871 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: that's that's the feeling a little lower. I just know 872 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: how he's wired. He's too nice a guy. But he 873 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: will be brilliant at like recollection and recall. You know 874 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,959 Speaker 1: how that like the PGA golfers can remember the club 875 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: they used and what shot in nineteen seventy four. That's Breeze. 876 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's amazing at recalling plays and stuff, and 877 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: I think that will really come in handy as an 878 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: analyst describing plays that maybe he ran that are similar 879 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: to what he's watching on TV. I can't wait to 880 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 1: see how it plays out. Well, we know you're not 881 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: gonna bury him because he still might you know, be 882 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,959 Speaker 1: doing you know, Breeze Book number three or or whatever 883 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: in the next Craze book. They have a good grace. Yeah, 884 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bury Drew. He's a hard guy to 885 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: bury it. This is the other thing I'll say about 886 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: him is a guy that covered him. I mean fifteen years. 887 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: You all know this. I mean covering the league. Uh, 888 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: he's he does a Wednesday press briefing like every quarterback 889 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: and Big Starn League. He never missed one of those 890 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: in fifteen years. I mean he always showed up for 891 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: those things in stage as long as he could. For 892 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: a superstar. He was as accessible and honest and never 893 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: really got short with anybody. Just amazing to deal with 894 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: on a professional level. And I'm gonna miss that for sure. 895 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: And one last question here, Jeff, and you can follow 896 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: Jeff on Twitter at Jeff duncan underscore um for all 897 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: the latest on the Saints and the great writing he does. 898 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 1: There is there anyway there's something up Peyton's sleeve here 899 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 1: at quarterback, and I know they're eternally trying to get 900 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: under the cap, and they find a way. I'm not 901 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: saying Russell Wilson necessarily because that that just seems ridiculous. 902 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: But Winston is a free agent, so there is some 903 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: flexibility to do something different. Will Tastom Hill obviously is 904 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: on the books. Is there anything else potentially another option 905 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: line line in the weeds here is a post breeze. Well, 906 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: Payton's always got something up his sleeve, so you can 907 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: never discount him. And it would not shock me if 908 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: he fell in love with a quarterback in this draft 909 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: and they got aggress him and went after one. That 910 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: would make sense to me more than a trade for 911 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson or some big name quarterback. I just don't 912 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: think the cap figure is there for the Saints to 913 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 1: do that, And I think this is a one year 914 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: kind of trial where they're gonna have to go cheak, 915 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: much like the Patriots did last year, just because of 916 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: the cap implications. With a rookie quarterback would would probably 917 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: still be able to work. And if he finds a 918 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: guy he likes, and I don't know, i'ven talk to 919 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: him about it, but they say he liked a tray 920 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: lance somebody like that. He really really wanted they would 921 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: go get him because that's what they do in the 922 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 1: draft and that would not shock me at all. MM 923 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 1: will be interesting to see what happens next, a new 924 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: era for the Saints. And Jeff, thank you so much, 925 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,919 Speaker 1: and go get Jeff's book if you want to read 926 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: about the definitive uh telling of the Tale of Drew 927 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,439 Speaker 1: Brees and Sean Payton. Thank you very much. Jeff Duncan, Thanks, thanks, 928 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: thanks for having me man. It was a great time. 929 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate it absolutely. Here he goes great, Jeff Duncan. 930 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: That's good. That's a good You know, you have a 931 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: guest on for the first time on the show, sometimes 932 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: they're good, you know, all right, you know, and you 933 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: you you regroup after the show and you say, oh, 934 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: is that somebody we'd love to have back or is 935 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: that hit it and quit it one and done. No, 936 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: Jeff would love to have Jeff back. You can tell. 937 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: He's just one of those guys that knows exactly what's 938 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: going on down there and we could learn from him 939 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: as well. So if we have a guest on next 940 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: time and you don't say anything about him, then then 941 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: the let's put it together for that it's possibly ahead 942 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: of and quit it. Well, connect the dots and you know, Patrick, 943 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: you've been on the show multiple times, so you don't 944 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: need to worry about this. It's clear that we're paying. No, 945 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: it does extend two people sitting sitting in on the 946 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: show for sure as well. Um, you know, it did 947 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: get me thinking, and we did. Uh. The NFL Network 948 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: show returned last Friday around the NFL and it will 949 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: be back on this week as well, So UH, set 950 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: your DVRs accordingly. We did this week in NFL history, 951 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,879 Speaker 1: and we did just pass the anniversary um of Drew 952 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 1: Brees signing that initial six year I think it was 953 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: six years, sixty million, But as Jeff uh points out, 954 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: there was an out trigger if Bruise's surgically repaired shoulder 955 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna if it wasn't gonna play, Um, obviously it did. 956 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,280 Speaker 1: I think that that is I think definitively the greatest 957 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: free agent signing in the history of the sport, right, 958 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean you could I guess they Reggie White was 959 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: quote unquote more important because the timing of it and uh, 960 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: you know, the fight to get to free agency. So 961 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: there's a different way to look at it. But for 962 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: what they got in fifteen seasons, a Saints franchise that 963 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: was essentially going nowhere, almost their entire history, and what 964 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: he gave to that organization and also the city, that's 965 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: got to be the best for agent signing ever. Right, 966 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't even think it's close, because, yeah, why I 967 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: think I made one of these lists a few years ago, 968 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 1: and I think White was probably the probably number two. 969 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he was awesome, but he wasn't there for 970 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: fifteen years. It wasn't like you were signing him in 971 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 1: the start of his prime. The Saints were so mediocre 972 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 1: for so long. They weren't bad like in the Aaron 973 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 1: Brooks Jim Haslett really like the like the nineties through 974 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: early two thousand, they were just like mediocre, and he 975 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: took the you know, he took them into being one 976 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: of the They won more games than anyone except the 977 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 1: Patriots since he signed I think, right, because it's fifteen 978 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: years spans it literally spans generations, right, you have generations 979 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: of Saints fans. Uh that No, this entire era as 980 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: it relates to Drew Brees, and so the city and 981 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: the perspective there I can. I'll try to like push 982 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 1: back on Tom House, right because Tom House is a coach, 983 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: so it behooves him to have this narrative that like, yeah, 984 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: if you work hard, you can complete sevent Your past 985 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: is no, you can't. Like Drew Brees had significant talent, right, 986 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: it is a talent like Breeze maddics, like throwing a 987 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: ball where you wanted to go takes a significant amount 988 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: of talent. And uh, you know the Saints and the 989 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: relationship at the time, right, if you go back then, 990 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: they might not have known. But like any relationship, it 991 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: had a great start, it had its ups and dounds, 992 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: and they were able to see it all the way through. 993 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: And I think, like looking back at it, people wonder 994 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: about these past few years. I think they were important, 995 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: even though they didn't win that ultimate prize. Uh, it 996 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of went to to submit what this team means 997 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: two people there, and and what Sean and Drew honestly 998 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: mean to each other. And I'm glad that we got 999 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: to see the way things played out here these past 1000 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: few years. Yeah, he endured through the quarterback position changing 1001 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: so much. I mean it was a huge thing that 1002 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 1: he was six ft tall, and Russell Wilson and others 1003 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: have come and changed that whole thing too, But I 1004 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: mean he got there and they immediately went to the 1005 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: playoffs and they were a very sort of up and 1006 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: down team. You can go back to the Bobby A. 1007 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 1: Bear squad of the late eighties too. I mean, it 1008 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: wasn't the nineteen sixties and seventies with Archie Manning, but 1009 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean he came in at a time when New 1010 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: Orleans went through one of the biggest things any city 1011 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: in our country has gone through in Katrina, and I 1012 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: just the marriage of all these factors together making a 1013 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 1: really special tale. And it's also amazing when you've got 1014 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: Dolphins fans thinking what if. What if we had evaluated 1015 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: this correctly and found a way to get him in 1016 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: our building two franchise would be completely different when we 1017 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: think about them, completely differently. I know, I know he 1018 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: should move on, but it is fascinating. I think Paul 1019 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: Taglebo really helps save the Saints, probably more than anyone. 1020 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: But I do think the success that Breeze and Peyton 1021 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: hadn't oh six was huge, you know, because our listeners 1022 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: probably don't know, like there was literally a report on 1023 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: ESPN that the Saints are moving that that and that 1024 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 1: was the owner. That was the owner deciding to do that. 1025 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: It was the same ownership now moving to San Antonio. 1026 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,800 Speaker 1: You and the league and in different things helped to 1027 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: step in and stop that from happening. But then to 1028 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: come back and to be that good. They went to 1029 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship in oh six, which I know Saints 1030 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: fans just looked back at that season as such a 1031 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,919 Speaker 1: magical ride because you did not see it coming, even 1032 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: with Drew Brees. Uh. And then to get to the 1033 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: point where I think about these last four years. Uh, 1034 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 1: there was like an anonymous Saints player, I forget who, 1035 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: I think it was anonymous who said, you know, they 1036 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 1: all thought two thousand and eighteen was their year, and 1037 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: it is. It is a shame to look back and 1038 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 1: not have that Saints Patriots super Bowl that could have 1039 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: been if not for the bad call. And you can 1040 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: even think about the year before when Drew Brees played 1041 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: unbelievable and that Vikings game that they wind up losing 1042 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: at the buzzer, the Minneapolis miracle Drew Brees has come 1043 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: back in that game was like one of the best 1044 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: games he's ever had. Uh. And so it's like a 1045 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: little more luck and and Breeze could have gotten back 1046 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 1: and maybe would have gotten another Super Bowl, but wasn't 1047 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: meant to be. And you're right, everyone would have loved 1048 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: to see Brady Brees and the Super Bowl. It does 1049 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,320 Speaker 1: remind me, and it reminds I think a lot of 1050 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: people again that Breeze he was pretty much shot, uh 1051 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: this by the end of this past season at forty 1052 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: two years old. And hey, listen, that's normal. So yet 1053 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 1: another all time great gets taken down eventually by father time. 1054 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: He hung in there a little longer than other quarterbacks 1055 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: in the past. But it just again points out how 1056 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: insane it is with Tom Brady is doing. And um, 1057 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: something that West brought up often, um the quote that 1058 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: was um affixed to Peyton Manning and his importance in Indianapolis. 1059 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: That Peyton Manning changed the skyline indian Indianapolis. That's how 1060 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: important to figure he was in that city. Drew Brees 1061 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: safe football in New Orleans, I mean him being at 1062 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 1: the front of that team, um, making them competitive again 1063 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: and then eventually a champion within three years. And then 1064 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: it's good and Peter King read read his latest column 1065 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 1: Football Morning in America, how tirelessly Breeze worked behind the 1066 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: scenes UM during New Orleans recovery post Katrina. I mean 1067 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: he he walked the walk and not just talk to talk. So, uh, 1068 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, whatever comes, I don't, I don't duncan. Really 1069 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: he gave us a good idea that he's probably gonna 1070 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: not be that interesting in the booth. And he's so 1071 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: right because that we've we've talked about it for years 1072 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 1: of this podcast. Is jew Brees a little bit of 1073 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: a phony. All these other things are great, obviously, but 1074 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: as he a guy that he's always gonna be saying 1075 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: nice things about everyone, and he never really learned what 1076 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: he thinks about anything that might be what he is 1077 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 1: as an analyst or because he's so competitive, like he's 1078 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: going to have to realize that part of the job 1079 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: that you can't be a Pollyanna about every single athlete 1080 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: you speak about. Um. Troy Aikman went through that. He 1081 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: became much more critical in more down the down the 1082 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: road on his announcing career and became better. Whatever you do, 1083 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: like if you're however however you go about it, just 1084 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: as long as it's genuine if he's gassing people up 1085 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 1: and that's who he is, and he's up there excited 1086 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 1: about gassing people up, like oh this guy could throw 1087 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: the ball all through the moon. Then like okay, that's fun, 1088 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: but don't just like just don't fake it, Drew. Just 1089 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 1: give us, Drew, give us some if you you can 1090 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 1: make up where if you're great on X as a nose, 1091 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 1: you can make up for if you're you actually teach 1092 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: us something, because not enough, not enough of the the 1093 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 1: ex players do that. I always think you mentioned like 1094 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: this last thing that breathe like in New Orleans, like 1095 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 1: a how big he is part of the city. I 1096 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: always think of like how his house is, you know, 1097 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, right on St. Charles, you know, kind of 1098 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: the classic you know, New Orleans Uptown Street and right 1099 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: on the trolley tracks. And so it's like every you know, 1100 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: everyone knows where Drew Brees lives. And I always thought 1101 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: that was cool, like every Marty Gras or anytime the 1102 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: Saints won a big game, like everyone's doubts in his 1103 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,760 Speaker 1: house and in beads and celebration and all that stuff. 1104 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 1: It's like he he literally was like right there in 1105 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: the city amongst the people. All right, let's close out 1106 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,360 Speaker 1: the show with a little bit of eight o'clock to 1107 00:55:54,480 --> 00:56:02,760 Speaker 1: light hit it. Ricky. Lions resigned defensive end Romeo Aquara 1108 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 1: to a three year, thirty nine million dollar contract. He 1109 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,240 Speaker 1: had a big contract year, ten sacks and sixty one pressures. 1110 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: He's staying in Detroit. Hey, they're trying a little bit 1111 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 1: claim on. Yeah, I'm glad they're keeping somebody. It can't 1112 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,280 Speaker 1: all be fresh and new. I gotta gotta keep good players. 1113 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: So Lions. Kevin Zeitler cut by the Giants and a 1114 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: cat move resigns quickly with our signs quickly with the 1115 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens three year, twenty two million dollar contract. Mark. 1116 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: This guy just loves daf C North. He does. He's 1117 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: really consistent player. He's missed like one game since. And 1118 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: I think the next thing is to see what happens 1119 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 1: to Orlando Brown Jr. Who wants out. The Houston Texans 1120 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 1: are making moves in the trade market, but not the 1121 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 1: one that everybody wants them to do, at least not yet. 1122 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: They trade linebacker Bernardrick McKinney to the Miami Dolphins for 1123 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson. Greggy what do you think about that Texans 1124 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 1: doing some weird moves. I'll just throw in the markets 1125 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,439 Speaker 1: cannon trade that they got from the Patriot, which makes 1126 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: sense too. But then all these like little first day 1127 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: signings of special teamers that like, it's always like the 1128 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 1: worst team that does that, you know what I mean. Also, 1129 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: after that great podcast interview uh Trotter and Steve Weish 1130 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: did with David Culley, I feel even worse about the situation. 1131 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: He seems like such a good dude, a wonderful guy. 1132 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: Preston Smith restructured his deal to stay with the Packers, 1133 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: and Nate's Solder will remain with the Giants after reworking 1134 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: his contract. Anybody, anybody, it's gonna make people feel better 1135 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: about Nates Solder. Right, He's not making us much money, 1136 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: so maybe Giants fanci give the guy a break. Finally, 1137 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: some cuts traits Turner. He is cut loose. Also, Casey 1138 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: hayword uh now enters create market. Well related to that, 1139 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: we've got a little bit of breaking news here. I mean, 1140 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: I I think it's worth it for breaking right, Let's 1141 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: let's do it Rick all right, The Chargers have made 1142 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: Corey Linsley the highest paid center in the NFL, and 1143 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: so they use some of that money where they saved 1144 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: by cutting Turner and Hayward and they give it to 1145 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 1: Corey Lindsley. They also resigned their cornerback Michael Davis, who's solid. 1146 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: But that's been their problem. They've They've thrown a lot 1147 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: of money and picks at it over the years their 1148 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,479 Speaker 1: offensive line. You will remember the free agency fits piece 1149 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 1: that I wrote that as I mentioned, UM cast sort 1150 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 1: of an earthquake on NFL dot com. I had Lindsley 1151 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: to the Chargers. So it's not just hoopla. It was. 1152 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: It was drenched in real substance. Do you have the 1153 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: the results to back it up. I also have some 1154 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: breaking news by the way. Oh yeah, former friend of 1155 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 1: the show, an x Rams safety John Johnson has signed 1156 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns. He's now a better friend of 1157 00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: the show, John Johnson. Unfortunately, UM was the guests where 1158 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: we were told we were going to have a different guest, 1159 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 1: Robert Woods, and then John Johnson came up and sat 1160 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: with us, and Dan was in a tough spot as 1161 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: the host because he knew it wasn't Robert Woods, but 1162 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 1: no one told us tell us who it was. Four 1163 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 1: years ago. I wasn't incredibly familiar with what John Johnson 1164 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: looked like, and I was like, who is this? Who's 1165 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: I remember scrambling asking who's walking towards us right now? 1166 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: When did you find out it was John Johnson? As 1167 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 1: he was sitting down. I think I heard it and 1168 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 1: I whispered it to Dan basically, and Dan like pivoted 1169 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 1: very professionally, but it was there was some crossed wires 1170 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 1: in terms of us receiving the proper communication. And one 1171 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 1: more bit of breaking news. Ricky hit it. Wow, the 1172 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: juice is loose. No, he's not. He's staying in San Francisco. Kyle, 1173 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: you Jack signs a five year extension. He had this 1174 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: to say, looking forward to showing that the juice is 1175 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,479 Speaker 1: always worth the squeeze. That's just in case anybody missed 1176 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 1: it earlier in the show. You don't do that enough. 1177 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: We need to start doing that later, like like the 1178 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: radio show that was good. They brought back Jason Varette too, 1179 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: by the way, who was awesome last year. No, we 1180 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 1: don't necessarily need another breaking news. I just just pointing 1181 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: it out. If you're just tuning in, you didn't know 1182 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 1: that a Verrette nice player brought him back. All right, good, 1183 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: that was good. Good show. First show from Elsa Gundo here. 1184 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the South Bay. Damn, thank you. I'm very 1185 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 1: happy to be here. Um, all three of you guys 1186 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 1: now I'm the only probably like four minutes away from 1187 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: each other. And Mark I'm gonna see you in a 1188 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: little bit. And the children, they've been bottled up all 1189 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: day and they they're looking for a release. And now 1190 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to send them to you like cannon fodder. 1191 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 1: They're just gonna be firing into your home like a 1192 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: pinball and a pinball machine. Well, I rattled Simone's cage 1193 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: is a little bit and made it very clear to 1194 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: her that she was going to be a large part 1195 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 1: of this operation, that it was going to require some 1196 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: effort on her part. What do you think? What do 1197 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: you think the vibe is gonna be? Because it's been 1198 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of course pandemic related Jack about six 1199 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: and a half, now, Harrison four, and then you have 1200 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: Luke and Culton. What's the vibe gonna be? You think 1201 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna think it's gonna be It's gonna be adventurous, 1202 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be unpredictable, but I know that you say 1203 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 1: that you're dropping them off after they've been bottled up. 1204 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 1: It's sort of a trick on me. But I'm just 1205 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 1: gonna feed them like, uh, you know, big giant cups 1206 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 1: of like warm melting chocolate, so that when they are 1207 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 1: unleashed back on your new house, it's gonna be something. 1208 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 1: You feel like an alien that doesn't even know what 1209 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 1: humans eat and drink. So if you try to describe 1210 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: something it doesn't sound right, well, you're probably right. They're 1211 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 1: gonna if If that's true, though, they'll come back to 1212 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 1: day and just like puking and pooping all over you 1213 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: have chocolate. Al Right, Patrick, you've done it again, and 1214 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 1: that's why you're you're a regular part of the program. 1215 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: Uh not a not a one night stand with Patrick Layburn. 1216 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 1: That's not his style and that's not our style. Relationship always, 1217 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 1: that's what I try to do. We are in a mature, 1218 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 1: committed relationship. Thanks guys. Alright, I like you too. Hey, 1219 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 1: good news for people who like this podcast. We're gonna 1220 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 1: do a show um every day this week um for 1221 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: uh pods Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then Friday the 1222 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 1: network show is back. So We'll be back with you 1223 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: again tomorrow, UH, staying up to date on the new 1224 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: league year, the legal tampering period. UH. That's it uh 1225 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 1: for today. And this is Dan Hansons signing off for 1226 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:04,439 Speaker 1: a quiet storm the old Boss, Patrick Laybo and Ricky 1227 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 1: Hollywood behind the virtual glass until Tuesday. Eat the Call.