1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Bill 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: O'Reilly was great at the top of the last hour. 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: We are joined now by Andy McCarthy, who is an 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: expert and helping us to break down the legal shenanigans 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: and pratfalls that are currently uh I would say sort 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: of transfixing the nation, particularly as it pertains to Donald Trump. 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: And Andy McCarthy, of course, former federal prosecutor in the 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Southern District of New York, regular Fox News contributor. So, Andy, 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: I want to start with I think you're with both 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: Buckin and myself based on past appearances, that you believe 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: there will be federal charges brought against Trump, So that 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: I think you agree there. You can shan, you can 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: tell us if you disagree. But my question for you 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: is what would the tie frame look like for a 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: federal criminal trial for Donald Trump? Based on your experience, 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: How quickly do you think the DC Circuit could get 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: this the charges brought, could get the trial underway? What 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: sort of time frame in your mind? Are we looking 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: at here, Clay. 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: You know, I think the one thing that the government, 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: meaning the Justice Department, always has complete control over is 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: when to indict. After that, the court really kind of 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: it depends on the eccentricities of the judge and a 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: lot of moving parts that exist here that don't exist 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: in the normal case. For example, you know, Trump is 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: facing a civil fraud trial in New York in October. 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: I believe that starts October third. That's the Letitia James, 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: State Attorney General big fraud case that they were hoping 32 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: was going to be a criminal case, but she brought 33 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: it as a civil case, and now this New York trial. 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: I know Trump is trying to get this move to 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: federal court. I don't think he's going to succeed in that. 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: The judge there has that that trial goes on March 37 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: twenty fifth of twenty twenty four, which by the way, 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: is two weeks after Super Tuesday. In between, we know 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: that the state prosecutor Fulton County, Georgia has told the 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: court to clear its decks for the first two weeks 41 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: of August, so presumably she's going to bring her indictments 42 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: at that point. So I've always thought that this is 43 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: very political. This is a uniquely political Justice department, and 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: I think they like the havoc that having Trump under 45 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: these you know, investigations and charges. I think they liked 46 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: the havoc that that's playing in the Republican race. 47 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 48 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: Sorry, My question, I guess is do you think it's 49 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: likely that they could get this trial completely finished before 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: November of twenty twenty four or do you expect that 51 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: Trump through motioning and trying to Let's presume he gets 52 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: charged in June or July. 53 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: Let's just presume that happens. 54 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: Is this something that could get pushed beyond the election, 55 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: or are you thinking to yourself, no, They're going to 56 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: have a federal trial of Donald Trump before November of 57 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: twenty four. 58 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really depends on the judge. I mean, I 59 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: think there are judges who, depending on how they also 60 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: charge this. I mean, I think he's going to charge 61 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: it mainly as an obstruction case, which is pretty straightforward. 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: If I'm wrong about that and it's classified documents in 63 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: the forefront of it, then I can see a lot 64 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: more motion practice with respect to that, because there's all 65 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: kinds of things that come up about you know, whether 66 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: he had the right to keep it, whether it actually 67 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: was classified, whether it matters whether it was puss. But 68 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you can see the the number of challenges 69 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: there might be. Whereas if the case is as simple 70 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: as he got a subpoena that told him to turn 71 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: overall documents more classified, and he not only thwarted the subpoena, 72 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: he provided the grand jury with a statement that turned 73 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: out to be false. That's you know, it depends on 74 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 3: depending on how you charge that. You could charge that 75 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: pretty straightforward. And the other thing I think we need 76 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: to bear in mind here is we're dealing with a 77 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: special counsel. So even if he doesn't indict things, I've 78 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: always thought that he'll write a narrative report of some kind, 79 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: like for example, I don't think he's going to charge 80 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: anything with respect to January sixth, but I do believe 81 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: he's going to write a narrative report that lays out 82 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: in painful detail all the icky things that will be 83 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: laid at Trump's feet with respect to that, and I 84 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: expect that to be released probably like in September, before 85 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: the election, if Trump is still a candidate at that point. 86 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 4: Andy, it's buck how much of a of a real risk. 87 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: Do you think there is here on the obstruction Let's 88 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: say they just do obstruction on the federal level. Is 89 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 4: that a pretty easy thing for them to prove? And 90 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: you know, how do you see that playing out? Basically, 91 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 4: if he's found guilty, is it they're going they can 92 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 4: pay a fine? 93 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think happens? 94 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: I think people will say, Buckett, let's cut to the chase. 95 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: If he gets convicted, I think people will say, no, 96 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: one's above the law. And you know, they'll argue that 97 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: he ought to do some time, depending on what the 98 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: sentencing guideline say, what. 99 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: Do you think, like what could what could you do? 100 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 4: Like for obstruction? What could you be looking at? Is 101 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: it months? 102 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's his first offender. It would be a 103 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: five year count. The judge probably would take into account that, 104 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 3: you know, at that point that sensitive government secrets were involved. 105 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: The Justice Department and the Democrats would push very heavily 106 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: for some prison time and he probably gets some. 107 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: So is this crazy? 108 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: Because I just want to you know, for any who's listening, 109 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: who's just you know, it's just like, oh my gosh, 110 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: is this even crazy to talk about? Or do you 111 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: think this is a is this a real thing that 112 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: you believe can happen? 113 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: Buck? If you asked me a year ago, is it 114 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: too crazy to talk about a guy who's running for president, 115 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: who's looking at two trials already scheduled, with a couple 116 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: of war down the pike, I would have said, you're nuts, 117 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: that that's too crazy to contemplate. Now I've changed. I 118 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: think nothing's too crazy to contemplate. 119 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: Okay, and so we're not either, So talking about it 120 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: makes sense. That's what I want to make sure. 121 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: Well, it's a criminal investigation. And look, this guy is 122 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: doing everything that a prosecutor would do to bring criminal charges, 123 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: including immunizing the lawyers who provided the statement to the 124 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: grand jury, which the Justice Department doesn't just Willy Nelly 125 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: immunize people. You give someone immunity because there's somebody more 126 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: more important up the chain that you want to go after. 127 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: That's the only reason they do it. 128 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: Why is this case? I got a caller question. I 129 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: sometimes I'll scan through the callers. Why is this case 130 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: in DC circuit? Given that the raid happened at mar 131 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: A Lago, that the obstruction may well have occurred at 132 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: mar A Lago, Why would this not be a Florida 133 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: court that would be hearing this as opposed to d C. 134 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: It was an interesting question. I'm not an expert in 135 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: the procedure. I'm curious your analysis of that. 136 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: Because the grand jury is in d C. So the 137 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: charge would be that he's obstructing the investigation and obstructing 138 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: the grand jury, in particular the grand jury's in the 139 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: District of. 140 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: Columbia, because that's an advantage that is I think significant. 141 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: Our audience understands that the Department of Justice wants this 142 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: DC circuit, right, I mean from your perspective if you're 143 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: a defense attorney for a Republican president, I mean, what 144 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: are we talking about in terms of the jury pool 145 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: that they would get. 146 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're absolutely right. They much prefer DC to Florida. 147 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: And you've mentioned the d C circuit. They much prefer 148 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: the d C circuit than say, the Eleventh Circuit, which 149 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: is a more you know, it's a the eleventh circuits 150 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: a better mix for Trump than the d C circuit. 151 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: And Andy on. 152 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: The Atlanta prosecution is that, you know, we had our 153 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: mutual friend Bill O'Reilly on before he thinks that's super weak, 154 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: like no problem for Trump, even if it's brought. What's 155 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: what's your assessment. 156 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: I don't. From what I know about the case, I'm 157 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: very suspicious of it, and I think, in particular, like, 158 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: here's a good reason why I think that this Fanny 159 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: Willis was the district attorney, is likely overplaying her hand. 160 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: Apparently central to this case is the idea of the 161 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: fake electors, the notion that you know, they put together 162 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: this group of electors who were who were going to 163 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: stand as Trump electors if they were able to pull 164 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: off this idea of reversing the result of the election. 165 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: But as I understand it, with these electors, they considered 166 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: themselves not fake. They considered themselves contingent. And what they 167 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: meant by that is if and only if Trump was 168 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: able to prevail in court to get the election undone, 169 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: or if the state legislature for whatever reason invalidated the 170 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: popular vote and substituted its own legislative vote for Trump, 171 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: then they would stand ready to assume a legitimate position 172 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: as Trump electors, and they would have to be certified 173 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: by the state. To me, that's not fake, that's a contingency. 174 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: So you know, to the extent they're building the case 175 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: on that, I think they're building it on sand Andy. 176 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about pardons. 177 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: Last week we had Ron DeSantis on and I asked 178 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 2: the Santas, Hey, let's pursue you got elected president. Would 179 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: you pardon Donald Trump in the event there are Department 180 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: of Justice federal charges brought against you? How important do 181 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: you think? Purely from a president perspective, both Trump and 182 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: other Republican candidates addressing these potential charges might make sense. 183 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: And also Trump could, if he were elected president in November, 184 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: pardon himself, right. I don't believe we've ever seen a 185 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: situation like that. Just from a legal perspective, the president 186 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: would have the ability. Let's say a Trump got re 187 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: elected to pardon himself as soon as he took the 188 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: oath of office in January, right, So I mean we 189 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: could and this is crazy, but I mean we could 190 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: have a situation where Trump is facing time in prison 191 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: and he gets sworn in in January, Andy, and he 192 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: completely pardons himself from all federal charges. Right, Like that 193 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: could be. And then I'm laying out a hypothetical here 194 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: for you. Do you see any way that Biden follows 195 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: the Gerald Ford president as it pertained to Nixon, and 196 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: even though it's an opposing party, might decide to pardon 197 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: himself because it's politically advantageous. Just kind of analyze the 198 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: pardon situation in general for. 199 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: Us, Well, there's no limitations on the pardon power in 200 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: terms of who can be pardoned. So there's nothing in 201 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: the constitution that says the president can't pardon himself. I 202 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: know that people push back and say, there's a you know, 203 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: there's an ancient Anglo American legal doctrine that you know, 204 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: you can't be the judge in your own cause. But 205 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: I think the pushback on that is that there's nothing 206 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: in the Constitution that says that with respect to the 207 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: pardon power. So the only limitations on the pardon power 208 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: is it has to be a crime that's already been committed. 209 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: That is, you can't give somebody a prospective get out 210 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: of jail free card, and it only applies to federal offenses. So, 211 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: for example, Steve Bannon is now facing trial well in 212 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: New York State, in fact, from Alvin Bragg in Manhattan 213 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: in September, based on the charge that that Trump pardoned 214 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: him for. Because there's a New York State analog and 215 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: the pardon doesn't doesn't affect the state prosecution. So with 216 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: that in mind, I think, you know, could Trump if 217 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 3: he got in pardon himself. I guess he could could Biden, 218 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 3: you know in theory. Yes, I wouldn't expect those things 219 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: to happen if I were and if I were distant. 220 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: Is there any other candidate? The way I would try 221 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: to navigate this question, which is a which is a 222 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: difficult one, would be to simply say one of the 223 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: guidelines the Justice Department follows is that somebody who you 224 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: pardon has to seek the pardon. In other words, the 225 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: idea is that the person asks for a pardon because 226 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: the person's important. So if I were dissent, is there 227 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: anyone else? I'd say, I'd have to table that until 228 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: we see what President Trump's position is. Is he asking 229 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: for apart? 230 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: Good point? 231 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: And you know this is why it's why we put 232 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: out the Andy bat signal here that makes sense of 233 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: a whole range of these things before. But before we 234 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: let you go, Andy, Uh, just a very broadle It's 235 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: not usually the end. Usually you get a question from 236 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 4: Clay about baseball here, but I'm gonna throw at you 237 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 4: on is the is the rule of law in trouble 238 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 4: in a way that you haven't seen since you were 239 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: twenty three years in the Southern District as a federal prosecutor. 240 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: Do you do you feel worried about what's going on 241 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: here with the weaponization of law over politics. 242 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: Yes, I think that the people don't. I think grasp 243 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: how important it is to the to the public legitimacy 244 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: of the law, that the public accepts that that the 245 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: law is even handed. And if the public comes to 246 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: believe that we actually do have two tiers of justice, 247 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: and the quality of justice a person gets to his 248 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: or her political affiliation, then you're asking for lawlessness because 249 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: you don't have a legitimate legal system. You just have 250 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: a you know, a political hack system. And if we 251 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: lose the rule of law, we can't have a flourishing society. 252 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: So I think we make a real mistake if we 253 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: take for granted that like the rule of laws are 254 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: then will always be here because a lot of it 255 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: depends on public perception, fairness and due process, and I 256 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: think we're very cavalier about that. 257 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 4: Andy McCarthy, everybody, Andy, We're gonna be talking to you more. 258 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: Thanks for making the time for us today. 259 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: All right, guys, have a great day. 260 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: I also want to express my thanks to those of 261 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 4: you who joined me for an exclusive interview recently with 262 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: an extraordinary stock market analyst by the name of well 263 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: Mason Sexton. 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That's 280 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: disruption twenty twenty three dot com. 281 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: Inspiring you to seek out the truth the Clay Travis said, 282 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton show Rinson back and. 283 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 4: Forth recently with whether Twitter is really the free speech 284 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: platform free speech within the confines of the law that 285 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: many had been hoping for. Elon Musk, waiting on that today, 286 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: said that yes, it is the case, despite some consternation 287 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: of whether the Matt Walsh Deey Wire movie What Is 288 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: a Woman? 289 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: Will be shown? But I thought this was kind of. 290 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: A worthwhile point to make, Clay, because we see this 291 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 4: over and over again, is that the left has no 292 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: sense of humor, like nothing is allowed to be funny anymore. 293 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: That continues on. They hate parody. 294 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: They hate, for example, of the Babylon b because it 295 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 4: makes jokes from a conservative perspective. Here's Elon talking about 296 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: how people on the left no sense of humor Play 297 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: twenty three. 298 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 5: The essence of a lot of comedy is a revealed truth, 299 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 5: like a hidden truth that people understand intuitively or explicitly, 300 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 5: and there's that sort of moment of revealed, you know, 301 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: kernel of truth of often unacknowledged truth. And in that 302 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: unacknowledged truth is the humor. If you're premised don't a lie, 303 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: you can no longer be funny because there's no revealed truth. 304 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people on the left have 305 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 5: no sense of humor. Enough funny And if if there, 306 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 5: if there's so many no fly zones, you know that 307 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 5: you have to you have to avoid all the time, 308 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 5: then something left to make. 309 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: Fun about. 310 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, And and misery is a close companion for authoritarianism 311 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 4: and viciousness. 312 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: So there you go. Authoritarians typically do not have great 313 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: senses of humor. 314 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: The North North Korea not not the home of a 315 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 4: lot of great stand uff. 316 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: These days, which is why this is part of my 317 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: new book book. 318 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: I spend a decent amount of time arguing Republicans should 319 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: be the party of jokes. Now, sometimes that means that 320 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: you and your party might be the butt of jokes. 321 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: But it's amazing to me the degree to which the 322 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: left now wants to censure comedy. 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I 350 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 2: don't know that anybody breaks down legal issues anywhere in 351 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: media better than he does, and we try to have 352 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: him on the show to answer as many of these 353 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: questions as we can, because so much of what's going 354 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: on is unprecedented as it pertains to what the Department 355 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: of Justice is trying to do Donald Trump. But it's 356 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: important to note this, there are a lot of great 357 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: Republican candidates out there running for president, Tim Scott, Vivik Ramaswami, 358 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: we know next week Mike Pence and Chris Christy are 359 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: going to run. It's a pretty deep bench and I'm 360 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: not trying to leave anybody out right. There's a lot 361 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: of people that are running now for the Republican nomination, 362 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: and it's important to note this. While Trump has been 363 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: the target basically since he came down the escalator, in 364 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 2: Trump Tower back in twenty fifteen. They're going to try 365 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: and tar and feather whoever the Republican is that starts 366 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: to surge in the polls, or if it's someone other 367 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: than Trump ends up being the nominee. 368 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: A lot. 369 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: Like I said, very deep bench, lots of good talent 370 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 2: out there, especially if you compare it to who's running 371 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: on the Democrat side. Reason why I bring that up. 372 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: You are starting to hear and we told you this 373 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: would happen as DeSantis is the top rival of Trump 374 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: right now. They are already getting their talking points ready. 375 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: Trump was Hitler. That's what they said, That's how they acted. 376 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: Now they are arguing, you know, actually, DeSantis, he might 377 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: even be a more dangerous version of Trump. 378 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: This is where the talking point he might be more 379 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: Hitler than Hitler. How is that possible? It's tough. I 380 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: don't even know. 381 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: When you say that someone is basically the devil, it's 382 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: hard to argue that somebody else is actually worse than 383 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: the devil. But this cut, We've had it held over 384 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: for a couple of days, been meaning to play it 385 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: because I think it's representative of what they will try 386 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: to do in terms of tarring and feathering. Whoever did 387 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: the Republican nominee is. Remember they turned Mitt Romney into 388 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: maybe the most blandly, inoffensive politician in any of our lives. 389 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: As you said, Ned Flanders is the perfect example for 390 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: those a lot of money. 391 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: He's rich, Ned Flanders, rich Ned Flanders. 392 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 4: But remember he was giving people cancer while abusing dogs 393 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: and bullying kids in high school, while he was keeping 394 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 4: women tiny versions of them inside of binders. 395 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: These were the attacks. Handing out cancer. 396 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, abusing dogs, shaving heads of kids in high school. 397 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: He didn't like or whatever, like just lunacy. 398 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 4: I mean it was lunacy and that was we know 399 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: Mitt Romney was from the Democrat perspect Yeah, that's about 400 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: as good a Republican as you're going to get in 401 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: terms of not, you know, not being the fighter who's 402 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 4: going to go to the mat for conservative values on 403 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 4: a whole range of issues. 404 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: So here is this audio. I just want to play 405 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: it for you because we're telling you what their game 406 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: plan is going to be before they even really fully 407 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 2: deploy it. 408 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: Here they are on MSNBC. 409 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: This is less Sunday that saying Ron de Santis, he's 410 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 2: actually way more dangerous than Donald Trump. 411 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 6: I say this with conviction. I think Rond de Santis 412 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 6: is far more dangerous than Donald Trump for a very 413 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 6: specific reason. Donald Trump is willing to ignore the rules, 414 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 6: ignore the Constitution, and frankly lead to the incitement of 415 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 6: January sixth. But Donald Trump is a transactional figure. He'll 416 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 6: do whatever it takes to win. Ron De Santis, I believe, actually, 417 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 6: in his ethos, is a cultural warrior who wants to 418 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 6: take us back one hundred years and believes he can 419 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 6: use the Constitution to that in and ultimately has a 420 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 6: very dark vision of what America will be. So the 421 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 6: idea of pardoning January sixth convicts, if you will, at 422 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 6: this point, is because he believes we are engaged in 423 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 6: a real war that he has to win now. 424 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: So they're referring to that answer he gave on our 425 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: show there. I didn't even know that part of it, 426 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: but Buck, I mean, we've said this is coming here 427 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: you go. DeSantis is worse than Hitler too. 428 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: And I want to be clear. 429 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: If let's say vivek Ramaswami were to get a lot 430 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 4: of a lot of play all of a sudden in 431 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 4: the polls, right, Let's say Nikki Haley. You know, Senator Scott, 432 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone's still thinking about whether young 433 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: Kin might throw in or not. 434 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter any of them. 435 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you will start to see just to prepare the 436 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 4: Democrat base whoever opposes Joe Biden. And I gotta say 437 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 4: I was surprised Bill saying still to this day that 438 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 4: Biden is not I give him credit for sticking by 439 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 4: his guns, Bill O. Riiley, but saying that Joe Biden 440 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 4: may may not be the nominee, not again as a 441 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 4: health issue. That doesn't that could happen. Anybody that like 442 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 4: the Democrat convention, they can try to pull something that's 443 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: I would give somebody and I always do this wrong. 444 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: Is it one to ten Vegas odds on that one? 445 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: Is that right? Meaning? I think it's almost not no way. 446 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: That you would give them ten to one odds one 447 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 2: to one, it would mean you think it's going to happen. 448 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: Yes, I think so ten to one that that there's 449 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 4: no way Joe Biden. 450 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: Isn't going to be the nominee. I'm getting into some double. 451 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 4: Negatives here, but anyway, the other side of this is 452 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 4: on the Republican with the Republican slate. 453 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: I think we should all be very clear. 454 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 4: They're going to do the politics of personal destruction against 455 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 4: whoever it is that they view as a challenge. They 456 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 4: do it at the Senate level too, and at any 457 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: competitive race. This is what you can expect from them, 458 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: and they're certainly going to do it in the Republican 459 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 4: presidential contest or in the primary contest. And I do 460 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 4: think as well. You know, I don't know, I've seen. 461 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 4: I've gotten a couple of notes, and please send us 462 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 4: to your thoughts if you don't call in at Clayandbuck 463 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 4: dot com, uh and become a VIP and tell us 464 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: what you think about all this. You know, I don't 465 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 4: understand some of them. Some people see him upset that 466 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 4: we even talk about or that you even asked the 467 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 4: question about the pardoning of Trump. And I'm sitting here 468 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: and I'm saying, so, let's just say they were gonna 469 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 4: there's gonna be like an impeachment part three. I know 470 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 4: they can't appeach me. He's not the president right now? 471 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: Do we not? 472 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 1: Do we not talk about it? Because that's what they 473 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: want us to do. 474 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that it's better to get ahead 475 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 4: of what we think is coming here. And I haven't 476 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: heard anyone say they don't think Trump is going to 477 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 4: be indided, So we might as well mentally prepare for 478 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: what this is going to be like and try to 479 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 4: come up with strategies so that I mean, the man 480 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: not only has the right to speak, as our friends say, 481 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: he is the right to speak, he is he has 482 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: the right to be an American who campaigns for president 483 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 4: without the crazy shenanigans, without the without the rigging of 484 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 4: the system, the legal system against him, which I think 485 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 4: is what we all see coming. So we're expressing outrage 486 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 4: at what is going on here, and I think it 487 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: is a cardinal issue. Now, Andy McCarthy, again, I would 488 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 4: encourage all of you to go listen to the conversation 489 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: we had with him at the top of this hour. 490 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 4: He pointed out something that is important. You have to 491 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 4: request a pardon. 492 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: So one way that some of these politicians running for 493 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 2: the presidency on the Republican side could dodge this question 494 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: is say, well, that presumes that President Trump were to 495 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: ask for a pardon, and he has to make that 496 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: choice in the event that he's not the nominee, because 497 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: the other option here obviously is Trump could be the nominee, 498 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: he could win the twenty twenty four election, and he 499 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: could pardon himself on all federal related charges that could happen. 500 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: But the reason why I think it's so significant, Buck, 501 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: is to me, it goes directly to the heart of 502 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: what you believe the American justice system should do. Because 503 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: if you legitimately believe that a chief political opponent of 504 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: the party in power should be put in prison for 505 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 2: let's be honest, trumped up charges that would never be 506 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: brought but for political related reasons, then you are actually 507 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: setting an incredibly dangerous president that undermines and potentially destroys 508 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: the rule of law in America, because once you put 509 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: one political candidate in jail and try to keep him 510 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: from being elected president, we are now setting the president 511 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: that this is okay in American politics, something that's never 512 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: happened in two hundred and fifty years. And we've had duels, Buck, 513 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: We've had guy, We've had top political leaders try to 514 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: kill each other in feuds, and we've never had the 515 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 2: chief political rival ever put in prison. 516 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 4: Well, this is why I think the context of the 517 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 4: media already democrat alon media saying that DeSantis or anyone else. 518 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 4: That's why we brought up Romney. It doesn't matter who 519 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 4: it is. They've trained the Democrat base to believe that 520 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 4: Republicans who want power, who are conservatives, I mean, right, 521 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 4: it's not they don't have a big problem with, you know, 522 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 4: people who are willing to toe the line of the Democrats, 523 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 4: but they've trained the Democrat base to think that those 524 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 4: individuals are monsters who should be not just beaten at 525 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 4: the ballot box, but should be subject to criminal prosecution 526 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: for their wrong think. 527 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: Essentially. 528 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: I mean, this is getting really deep into totalitarian psychology. 529 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 4: And whoever the person is, it's going to be the 530 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 4: same thing, right, And once they established this president, this 531 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 4: is always what we've been saying about, whether it was 532 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 4: the completely frivolous impeachments of Trump that occurred and now 533 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 4: the absurd charges in New York City. They are setting 534 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 4: precedents that will be used and abused going going forward. 535 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: So that's why I think it's so it's so important 536 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 4: the American people really understand the full weight of what's 537 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 4: going on here. That's why I asked, ANDYA said, is 538 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 4: the rule of law in trouble? And what does that 539 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 4: mean for our society. Yeah, the debt is really bad, 540 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 4: or it can destroy our economy over the long term. 541 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: But in the shorter term, if we have a play, 542 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: if we have a country where we now have a 543 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: two tier justice system based on your political party, and 544 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 4: everyone really feels that, knows that and that's how it operates, 545 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 4: what kind of country do we really have? And that's 546 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 4: what we're all looking at right now. That's the reality 547 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 4: that we face. That's how critical this is. It's about Trump, 548 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: but it's also about more than Trump, way bigger than Trump. 549 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: Trump is the vessel right now under which the attack 550 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 4: is occurring, but it's not going to stop with him. 551 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 4: That's the precedent, the danger of it being set. You'd 552 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 4: be amazed how much of your information is online. Sure, 553 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: a lot of it is behind companies that you do 554 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 4: business with, and they try to protect it as best 555 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 4: they can. It's that kind of information though, that's cyber 556 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 4: hackers seek, working anonymously behind their keyboards and computer screens. 557 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: The cleverest of them succeed, and when they do, they 558 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: often sell your information to the highest bidders, who use 559 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 4: it to make illegal purchases, bank account withdrawals, and more, 560 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 4: I'll give you a brand new example revealed in the 561 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: past week. A good sized insurance company called Managed Care 562 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 4: of North America suffered a data breach that exposed the 563 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 4: personal information of nearly nine million people. Hackers had access 564 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: to the MCNA systems ten days or so earlier this winter. 565 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 4: They got confidential patient information including full names, addresses, birth dates, 566 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 4: driver's license numbers, phone numbers, social security numbers, and also 567 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 4: protected healthcare information. Just think what a cyber thief could 568 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 4: do with that. In the way of identity theft, it's 569 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 4: important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting 570 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 4: our lives. Protecting your identity can be easy with LifeLock 571 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: by Norton. 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Oh and Tutor Dixon of course, 608 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 4: the Tutor Dixon Show appears in there. Tutors doing a 609 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 4: great show. And I just would put in a plug here. 610 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 4: You guys all know how much we love the Talenta 611 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 4: Towers Foundation. I mean, does just such amazing work. Frank 612 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 4: Siller is an incredible guy, the organization he's built, and 613 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 4: they're just really doing the stuff that we talk about. 614 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 4: They're helping families of the fallen in our wars, the 615 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 4: first responders, severely injured veterans. Can't think of a more 616 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 4: worthy cause. And as you know, my wife Carrie is 617 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 4: running on Monday in the Tunnel to the Towers climb 618 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 4: and she's hoping to get to her goal. And she's 619 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 4: part of the Fox News team because she works at Fox. 620 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 4: So if you can go to Clayanbuck dot com and 621 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 4: give one hundred percent of the money goes right to 622 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 4: Tunel the Towers Foundation. 623 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: It's going for the Fox. 624 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: News team that she's part of representing for Tunnel to Towers. 625 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 4: So if you have a chance to donate, go to 626 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: Clayanbuck dot com. Because I'll look like a good husband 627 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: if she meets the team goal, and it couldn't be 628 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 4: for a worthier cause every dollar goes towards tunnel to towers. 629 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: Frank is amazing and congrats to carry for doing that event. 630 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: So if people want to go. 631 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: It's stories. 632 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 4: By the way, that's a I would she would have 633 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 4: to carry me, which would be embarrassing for me. 634 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: That's a lot of stairs, no doubt. Not only would 635 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: she potentially have to carry you. 636 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: I was thinking, man, it feels like you might get 637 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: dizzy running, you know, just in basic circles, you know, 638 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: up the up, the to the top like that. 639 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: So how many how long? 640 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 4: How far do you could run right now, flat out 641 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 4: before you're like I'm done? 642 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: Like, how far do you think you can go? Yeah, 643 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: one hundred yards? I don't know. 644 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 4: I think I might get to one hundred and fifty 645 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 4: hundred yards and then I'm pretty much I'd be like 646 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 4: I got to read a book. 647 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 2: I'd like to think that I could like feel to, 648 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: you know, punt or a kick off at the goal 649 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: line and just run full sprint all the way to 650 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: the other side. But first of all, you don't sprint 651 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: very often. I would definitely pull a hamstring or two 652 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: as well, which would be bad. You don't want that, 653 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: you know, kids, I think you I don't remember the 654 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: last time I would have run full speed one hundred yards. 655 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: I think the odds and likelihood of an injury would 656 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: actually be very very substantial if I if I undertook that. 657 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: So I bet you know. We used to do this 658 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 2: buck speaking of charity. Everybody thinks they're fast if you 659 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: played sports, and everybody thinks they would have a fast 660 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: forty time, which is what the measure and for the 661 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: NFL Combine, for instance, because you see like big fat 662 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 2: guys relatively speaking on the field and it seems like 663 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: they're moving slow, and so you think to yourself, oh, 664 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: I would be faster than that, you know person on 665 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: the field. Almost no one can break a five h forty. 666 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 2: We used to do this for charity. People could donate 667 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 2: fifty bucks, come out, try to run. It's true. Speed 668 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: is so rare. People have no concept for how fast 669 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: real stud athletes actually are. Even if you were fast 670 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: on your high school team, you're not very fast. 671 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 4: Well, this is it's true of ultra elite marathoners as well. 672 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 4: I've been at the finish of the or the last 673 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 4: leg of the New York City Marathon many a number of. 674 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: Times over the years. 675 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, watching, not running. Watching and when you break down, 676 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 4: they're running twenty six miles and they're doing it. What 677 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 4: is it sub five minutes breakdown or something like that. 678 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 4: I think it's like in the high fours. Maybe it's 679 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 4: you know, fine, I can run one mile at sub 680 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 4: six right now, I don't think so. 681 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's tough. 682 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: Most most people can't even run one mile as fast 683 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 2: as the marathon's twenty six. Yeah, that's I mean, if 684 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 2: you've ever tried to run like a six minute mile, 685 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: it's not easy to do. Those dudes do twenty six 686 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 2: of them in a row of like sub five. So there, 687 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: you can not as athletic as you thought. There's your 688 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 2: lesson from the Clay and Buck Show today, So yeah, 689 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 2: please do go. 690 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 4: If you can donate to the link it's on Clayanbuck 691 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 4: dot com and send us your thoughts here on some 692 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 4: things you want us to hit tomorrow. Love to get 693 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 4: some topic ideas and those you if we didn't hit 694 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 4: it today, vip emails or you can, you know, message 695 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 4: us on Facebook or Twitter, and we're looking forward to 696 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 4: talking to me on Friday, and it's gonna be an 697 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 4: interesting day. 698 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: That much I am certain of the game. Thanks for 699 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: rolling with us.