1 00:00:06,026 --> 00:00:09,506 Speaker 1: NFL Explained is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:09,706 --> 00:00:18,266 Speaker 1: with I Heart Radio. All Right, I know everyone is 3 00:00:18,386 --> 00:00:21,866 Speaker 1: not hungry when you feast at Thanksgiving, Like all you 4 00:00:21,906 --> 00:00:24,746 Speaker 1: want to do is just sit back on the couch. 5 00:00:24,786 --> 00:00:27,026 Speaker 1: You got some football going and then of course you 6 00:00:27,106 --> 00:00:30,706 Speaker 1: got the NFL Explained podcasts. Yes, you explained podcasts, and 7 00:00:30,786 --> 00:00:34,066 Speaker 1: we call that that itis. Might you know you fall asleep? 8 00:00:34,986 --> 00:00:37,266 Speaker 1: Yeah you can. You can feel the food coma in 9 00:00:37,306 --> 00:00:39,746 Speaker 1: a big way. Yes, it is NFL Explained. Yes, he 10 00:00:39,826 --> 00:00:42,666 Speaker 1: is the Super Bowl champ. Michael Robinson, Mike cam with you. 11 00:00:42,706 --> 00:00:45,826 Speaker 1: This is the episode all about facts. You realize that, right, absolutely, 12 00:00:45,826 --> 00:00:48,706 Speaker 1: Like we that's the reality that we live in. Facts. 13 00:00:49,146 --> 00:00:52,506 Speaker 1: We are bringing the heat. And I've been talking about 14 00:00:52,546 --> 00:00:57,026 Speaker 1: this all season long. Yo, d m us send your 15 00:00:57,106 --> 00:01:02,066 Speaker 1: questions mail bag episode as promised, we are delivering this. 16 00:01:02,626 --> 00:01:05,186 Speaker 1: I've often said this, I get excited. In fact, there's 17 00:01:05,226 --> 00:01:07,146 Speaker 1: one question and coming up in a little bit where 18 00:01:07,746 --> 00:01:09,786 Speaker 1: I said, man, that's a good question because that affects 19 00:01:09,826 --> 00:01:13,146 Speaker 1: me on Sundays. So I was like, we're gonna be 20 00:01:13,186 --> 00:01:16,666 Speaker 1: talking about it, so you ready to all right, I'm 21 00:01:16,666 --> 00:01:19,026 Speaker 1: gonna start off with this one for this male bag episode, 22 00:01:19,066 --> 00:01:22,626 Speaker 1: What do you punters do during practice? When I was 23 00:01:22,666 --> 00:01:24,906 Speaker 1: a kid, I thought they just punted it all practice, 24 00:01:25,066 --> 00:01:27,146 Speaker 1: But now I realize, you're like, it's incapable of doing 25 00:01:27,186 --> 00:01:29,346 Speaker 1: that all day every day, So what do they do 26 00:01:29,706 --> 00:01:33,586 Speaker 1: all day? That's a really good question. Um, Honestly, I 27 00:01:33,706 --> 00:01:38,386 Speaker 1: never really thought about what punters do, but they punt. Obviously. 28 00:01:38,586 --> 00:01:42,226 Speaker 1: In most NFL practices, Wednesdays are the first days that 29 00:01:42,266 --> 00:01:45,426 Speaker 1: were on the field. That's your base personnel day, and 30 00:01:45,426 --> 00:01:48,106 Speaker 1: and the teams that I was on Wednesdays was punt day, right, 31 00:01:48,146 --> 00:01:50,546 Speaker 1: so special teams will go out there first, The punter 32 00:01:50,546 --> 00:01:52,666 Speaker 1: will be out there first, then the punt team will 33 00:01:52,706 --> 00:01:54,226 Speaker 1: go out, then the rest of the team will go out. 34 00:01:54,226 --> 00:01:56,346 Speaker 1: Then we start practice, and in the middle of practice 35 00:01:56,386 --> 00:01:59,626 Speaker 1: we have another punt period. So Wednesdays would be the 36 00:01:59,666 --> 00:02:02,586 Speaker 1: punt time where he would go punt. Fridays would also 37 00:02:02,626 --> 00:02:04,786 Speaker 1: be a big time punt time, So Wednesdays would be 38 00:02:04,866 --> 00:02:08,866 Speaker 1: kind of punting kick off, Thursdays would be punt return 39 00:02:08,986 --> 00:02:11,746 Speaker 1: and kick off returning, and Fridays we would do kind 40 00:02:11,746 --> 00:02:13,786 Speaker 1: of all of them. So he would punt on those 41 00:02:13,786 --> 00:02:15,946 Speaker 1: two days, but during the rest of the days of 42 00:02:15,986 --> 00:02:19,346 Speaker 1: the week, if I would always see like the quarterbacks, 43 00:02:19,346 --> 00:02:21,746 Speaker 1: because the quarterbacks always just need bodies, right because they're 44 00:02:21,746 --> 00:02:23,386 Speaker 1: throwing the football to a lot of people. And during 45 00:02:23,466 --> 00:02:26,426 Speaker 1: individual drills, oftentimes the quarterback coach will grab the punter 46 00:02:26,546 --> 00:02:28,866 Speaker 1: or the kicker or somebody get those guys to stand 47 00:02:28,906 --> 00:02:31,066 Speaker 1: out there and kind of be a placeholders, so the 48 00:02:31,146 --> 00:02:34,306 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have targets. And then during a show team. Show 49 00:02:34,346 --> 00:02:37,226 Speaker 1: team is when you have your practice squad guys and 50 00:02:37,386 --> 00:02:41,506 Speaker 1: extra players practicing as if they were your opponent that week. 51 00:02:41,826 --> 00:02:44,866 Speaker 1: Oftentimes you get a punter or or or a kicker 52 00:02:44,866 --> 00:02:46,866 Speaker 1: who when we need extra bodies to come over and 53 00:02:46,866 --> 00:02:48,906 Speaker 1: help run the scout team. All right, So I know, 54 00:02:49,066 --> 00:02:52,266 Speaker 1: totally different here, But as we're getting this question about punchers, 55 00:02:52,266 --> 00:02:53,626 Speaker 1: I was on my phone because I'm like, oh, I 56 00:02:53,626 --> 00:02:56,706 Speaker 1: gotta show you this video because it's a little different here, 57 00:02:56,986 --> 00:03:00,066 Speaker 1: and it's a pregame deal justin Tucker, who by the way, 58 00:03:00,226 --> 00:03:03,786 Speaker 1: was a guest on this podcast last season, and try 59 00:03:03,826 --> 00:03:06,786 Speaker 1: to talk to through the science of field goal in 60 00:03:07,186 --> 00:03:10,226 Speaker 1: a pre game kicked in eighty seven yard or are 61 00:03:10,266 --> 00:03:12,666 Speaker 1: you kidding me? So I know, once again a little different, 62 00:03:12,666 --> 00:03:14,666 Speaker 1: but I started thinking about what kickers are doing German 63 00:03:14,706 --> 00:03:17,026 Speaker 1: practice as well, like, and I'm wondering if like the 64 00:03:17,106 --> 00:03:19,506 Speaker 1: cadence is the same. By the way, when Justin Tucker 65 00:03:19,506 --> 00:03:22,066 Speaker 1: berries an eighty seven yard field goal, and it was 66 00:03:22,466 --> 00:03:24,986 Speaker 1: it was in New Orleans, it was before their Monday 67 00:03:25,066 --> 00:03:27,986 Speaker 1: night games in the Dome. But still nonetheless, man like, 68 00:03:28,026 --> 00:03:31,186 Speaker 1: that's still pretty crazy. Can you imagine what a kickers 69 00:03:31,386 --> 00:03:34,626 Speaker 1: practice routine. It's like, um, like keep going back back 70 00:03:34,626 --> 00:03:39,186 Speaker 1: back back back. Oh man, kickers practice within eddy. I'm 71 00:03:39,226 --> 00:03:41,146 Speaker 1: assuming they kick a bunch of they kick a bunch 72 00:03:41,146 --> 00:03:44,946 Speaker 1: of field goals. But again, but just like to the 73 00:03:44,986 --> 00:03:48,666 Speaker 1: punter's question, those guys can't kick every single day. It's 74 00:03:48,706 --> 00:03:51,066 Speaker 1: just like quarterbacks, Like they can't sit there and throw 75 00:03:51,146 --> 00:03:53,506 Speaker 1: with the intensity every single day. So you do have 76 00:03:53,586 --> 00:03:55,906 Speaker 1: to manage those guys. But at the end of the day, 77 00:03:56,226 --> 00:03:58,306 Speaker 1: I used to get on my kickers all the time. 78 00:03:58,626 --> 00:04:00,626 Speaker 1: When you only kick all day during the game, you 79 00:04:00,666 --> 00:04:02,746 Speaker 1: better make them all on Sunday. Okay, make them all 80 00:04:02,786 --> 00:04:04,706 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Just get it done. And by the way, 81 00:04:04,866 --> 00:04:08,106 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker goat. I don't know if there's another player. 82 00:04:08,146 --> 00:04:09,946 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day. Is there 83 00:04:09,986 --> 00:04:13,266 Speaker 1: another player that's better than he is at his position? 84 00:04:13,706 --> 00:04:18,626 Speaker 1: Like the answers. No, I mean maybe Josh think about that, 85 00:04:18,666 --> 00:04:20,906 Speaker 1: like if you started throwing quarterbacks out there, like at 86 00:04:20,986 --> 00:04:22,866 Speaker 1: least it's debatable, right, Like if you said, Josh Allen 87 00:04:23,026 --> 00:04:25,626 Speaker 1: like I'll take Patrick, Like you know, you can have 88 00:04:25,666 --> 00:04:28,426 Speaker 1: those debates. Like on the kicker side, I say, Justin 89 00:04:28,466 --> 00:04:31,826 Speaker 1: Tucker and it kind of ends there. There is nobody there. 90 00:04:32,506 --> 00:04:35,066 Speaker 1: It's kind of wild. Um, got another question for you? 91 00:04:35,106 --> 00:04:37,226 Speaker 1: And which one to me? This is what I was 92 00:04:37,266 --> 00:04:39,946 Speaker 1: referring to where it was affecting me for a long 93 00:04:39,986 --> 00:04:43,986 Speaker 1: period of time. Australian fan here, yes, here we go. 94 00:04:44,586 --> 00:04:48,186 Speaker 1: I would love to understand the Sunday afternoon broadcast maps better. 95 00:04:48,466 --> 00:04:51,186 Speaker 1: How do they decide which parts of Oregon get the 96 00:04:51,266 --> 00:04:55,666 Speaker 1: Chargers and which parts get the forty niners. That is 97 00:04:55,786 --> 00:04:58,866 Speaker 1: a really good question. I'm assuming it would be on 98 00:04:58,986 --> 00:05:02,106 Speaker 1: the geographical location of the city and the team, But 99 00:05:02,186 --> 00:05:04,866 Speaker 1: that is a really good question. That's a technical question 100 00:05:04,946 --> 00:05:07,346 Speaker 1: right there. Really as thank god we have technical people 101 00:05:07,466 --> 00:05:09,666 Speaker 1: who can give us the answer to it, because I'm 102 00:05:09,706 --> 00:05:13,066 Speaker 1: at home sometimes now before I got to NFL network, 103 00:05:13,426 --> 00:05:15,306 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm not gonna a little cheap and 104 00:05:15,306 --> 00:05:16,786 Speaker 1: like I don't have I don't have it. Like that. 105 00:05:17,266 --> 00:05:18,706 Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, like, you know the 106 00:05:18,706 --> 00:05:21,346 Speaker 1: whole Like, you know, NFL Sunday ticket not my I'm 107 00:05:21,386 --> 00:05:22,946 Speaker 1: just gonna go out, like I'll go hang out with 108 00:05:22,946 --> 00:05:24,826 Speaker 1: my friends, you know, like that's where all go consume 109 00:05:24,906 --> 00:05:27,306 Speaker 1: the games. Then I start working here and I'm like, yo, 110 00:05:27,386 --> 00:05:29,506 Speaker 1: I need to be able to watch market. You have to. 111 00:05:29,986 --> 00:05:31,706 Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, I'm a pony up and 112 00:05:31,746 --> 00:05:34,146 Speaker 1: get this done. So Red Zone obviously has changed my 113 00:05:34,226 --> 00:05:36,746 Speaker 1: life and many fans and the whole thing. But with 114 00:05:36,866 --> 00:05:39,666 Speaker 1: sort of fascinating about this Australian fans, this is a 115 00:05:39,666 --> 00:05:42,226 Speaker 1: real predicament because in a state of Oregon, You're like, well, 116 00:05:42,226 --> 00:05:45,306 Speaker 1: why would they care about the Chargers, Well, justin Herbert 117 00:05:45,386 --> 00:05:48,626 Speaker 1: is from Eugene, Oregon, and Plane in Oregon, and the 118 00:05:48,666 --> 00:05:50,466 Speaker 1: last time I was up in Portland, all I saw 119 00:05:50,586 --> 00:05:53,146 Speaker 1: was Chargers jerseys, which is and they're also just in 120 00:05:53,226 --> 00:05:54,986 Speaker 1: Herbron And so I'm like, oh, like that's actually a 121 00:05:54,986 --> 00:05:57,706 Speaker 1: really good response. So and Rob to your point, like 122 00:05:58,106 --> 00:06:00,546 Speaker 1: the map is actually really significant. So here's the official 123 00:06:00,586 --> 00:06:03,546 Speaker 1: answer here. The NFL's national broadcast partners, so we've got 124 00:06:03,546 --> 00:06:07,466 Speaker 1: Fox CBS. They assigned different NFL games two different markets, 125 00:06:07,506 --> 00:06:10,426 Speaker 1: with some help obviously from the league. It is based 126 00:06:10,466 --> 00:06:13,506 Speaker 1: on regional and national interest in games and teams, so 127 00:06:13,826 --> 00:06:16,546 Speaker 1: local TV affiliates they don't get any say in the 128 00:06:16,586 --> 00:06:19,946 Speaker 1: final decisions, but they can make some requests if they want. 129 00:06:20,346 --> 00:06:23,026 Speaker 1: Each team has a primary market, right so that makes 130 00:06:23,026 --> 00:06:25,346 Speaker 1: sense to people. That's set by the NFL, and those 131 00:06:25,386 --> 00:06:28,626 Speaker 1: primary markets are required to show all road games and 132 00:06:28,746 --> 00:06:32,426 Speaker 1: all home games unless the home games are not sold out, 133 00:06:32,466 --> 00:06:36,306 Speaker 1: which case they can be called blackout games. Locally, the 134 00:06:36,426 --> 00:06:40,026 Speaker 1: use of the metropolitan areas basically which the team's actually are. 135 00:06:40,306 --> 00:06:43,866 Speaker 1: So each team also has a secondary market that must 136 00:06:43,906 --> 00:06:46,786 Speaker 1: air road games of a given team and would be 137 00:06:46,786 --> 00:06:49,666 Speaker 1: blacked out of home games that don't sell out, but 138 00:06:50,586 --> 00:06:53,506 Speaker 1: they don't have to air all home games. A little 139 00:06:53,586 --> 00:06:57,666 Speaker 1: kind of convoluted here, but essentially, broadcast maps are published 140 00:06:57,786 --> 00:07:01,826 Speaker 1: on five or six Sports, which began tracking broadcast maps 141 00:07:01,866 --> 00:07:05,426 Speaker 1: in two thousand five. Previously the maps were generally speaking, 142 00:07:05,866 --> 00:07:09,386 Speaker 1: a little unknown. The shortest way and most concise way 143 00:07:09,386 --> 00:07:11,346 Speaker 1: of saying this is, if your team is in a 144 00:07:11,386 --> 00:07:14,106 Speaker 1: given city, you know you're getting those games, and then 145 00:07:14,146 --> 00:07:17,506 Speaker 1: the secondary side of things, there's obviously some a little 146 00:07:17,546 --> 00:07:19,946 Speaker 1: bit of wiggle well, I know for me growing up, man, 147 00:07:19,986 --> 00:07:22,146 Speaker 1: I grew up in Richmond, Virginia, so we don't have 148 00:07:22,186 --> 00:07:24,226 Speaker 1: a team. We we didn't have an NFL team. Our 149 00:07:24,266 --> 00:07:27,266 Speaker 1: closest team to Washington Commanders, that were the Redskins when 150 00:07:27,266 --> 00:07:29,466 Speaker 1: I was growing up, So obviously we got a lot 151 00:07:29,466 --> 00:07:32,386 Speaker 1: of Washington Redskin games, but it was really the entire 152 00:07:32,466 --> 00:07:35,306 Speaker 1: NFC East. I was so surprised when I got older 153 00:07:35,306 --> 00:07:37,706 Speaker 1: and conscious enough to kind of understand what's going on. 154 00:07:38,146 --> 00:07:41,466 Speaker 1: How many Dallas Cowboys fans are in the state of Virginia. 155 00:07:41,586 --> 00:07:44,706 Speaker 1: They're everywhere, Mike, there every I mean literally, bro, Like 156 00:07:44,746 --> 00:07:48,266 Speaker 1: every bar you go to on Sunday there Cowboys fans everywhere. 157 00:07:48,266 --> 00:07:51,146 Speaker 1: And again it's it's it's a tribute to to Jerry 158 00:07:51,226 --> 00:07:53,986 Speaker 1: Jones is amazing at marketing and spreading the brand and 159 00:07:54,026 --> 00:07:59,026 Speaker 1: those things. But the NFC East teams, especially the Dallas Cowboys, 160 00:07:59,266 --> 00:08:01,186 Speaker 1: those are the teams most marketed to me, and those 161 00:08:01,226 --> 00:08:02,906 Speaker 1: are the teams that I saw most growing up. You know, 162 00:08:02,906 --> 00:08:05,586 Speaker 1: We've talked about like we've what's the label America's team 163 00:08:05,866 --> 00:08:07,586 Speaker 1: and a lot of that has to do with the 164 00:08:07,626 --> 00:08:11,066 Speaker 1: Cowboys being on television in the early days, right, Like 165 00:08:11,146 --> 00:08:14,066 Speaker 1: I'll make this as like a baseball analogy here t NT. 166 00:08:15,066 --> 00:08:17,826 Speaker 1: The Turner family obviously had the Atlanta Braves, so they 167 00:08:17,826 --> 00:08:20,586 Speaker 1: had a television network TNT you get on regular cable. 168 00:08:20,786 --> 00:08:23,506 Speaker 1: They started Aaron Braves games all the time. So all 169 00:08:23,546 --> 00:08:26,026 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Braves started becoming a really popular team. 170 00:08:26,066 --> 00:08:27,866 Speaker 1: Sort of the same thing that you said for how 171 00:08:27,866 --> 00:08:29,786 Speaker 1: it all worked out for the Dallas count It's kind 172 00:08:29,786 --> 00:08:32,146 Speaker 1: of cool there, all right. A lot of talk of 173 00:08:32,226 --> 00:08:38,306 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and his contract, which, by the way, come on, 174 00:08:38,946 --> 00:08:40,666 Speaker 1: a lot has been made. Here's the question. A lot 175 00:08:40,706 --> 00:08:43,706 Speaker 1: has been made about Lamar Jackson not having an agent. 176 00:08:44,226 --> 00:08:47,626 Speaker 1: Is this smart? What does an NFL agent actually do? 177 00:08:48,346 --> 00:08:51,106 Speaker 1: Sides note here m Rob and I actually have the 178 00:08:51,146 --> 00:08:55,506 Speaker 1: same broadcast agents, So be careful what you say. You're right, 179 00:08:56,946 --> 00:09:04,866 Speaker 1: and we're talking about NFL football player a baby, But 180 00:09:05,066 --> 00:09:09,746 Speaker 1: I mean, look to me, when I look at my 181 00:09:10,106 --> 00:09:11,746 Speaker 1: you know, my playing days, and I'm not gonna say 182 00:09:11,746 --> 00:09:13,946 Speaker 1: who my agent was. I look back and I can 183 00:09:13,946 --> 00:09:16,706 Speaker 1: say I'm not gonna sit here and say I necessarily 184 00:09:16,866 --> 00:09:20,866 Speaker 1: needed him all the way back then, because when I 185 00:09:20,906 --> 00:09:24,346 Speaker 1: looked at it, the way the draft works, you're slated 186 00:09:24,466 --> 00:09:26,986 Speaker 1: pretty much in a spot there's not much wiggle room. 187 00:09:26,986 --> 00:09:28,906 Speaker 1: I was a fourth round pick, right, I wasn't gonna 188 00:09:28,906 --> 00:09:31,146 Speaker 1: make more than the last pick of the third round. 189 00:09:31,146 --> 00:09:33,066 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna make more than a quarterback who was 190 00:09:33,106 --> 00:09:35,226 Speaker 1: picked close to me in the draft. And once I 191 00:09:35,266 --> 00:09:38,106 Speaker 1: started to understand that, I started to say, well, what 192 00:09:38,146 --> 00:09:40,986 Speaker 1: could an agent really do in this particular situation. What 193 00:09:41,066 --> 00:09:43,386 Speaker 1: the agent did do for me coming in to the 194 00:09:43,466 --> 00:09:46,746 Speaker 1: National Football League was helped get me ready, right, paying 195 00:09:46,786 --> 00:09:50,266 Speaker 1: for workouts, get me ready for the combine, understanding the 196 00:09:50,306 --> 00:09:53,466 Speaker 1: wonder Lick test, having psychologists come in and understand the 197 00:09:53,546 --> 00:09:55,586 Speaker 1: questions that you were gonna I was so prepared for 198 00:09:55,626 --> 00:09:57,626 Speaker 1: the combine mic Like, I know I passed it with 199 00:09:57,666 --> 00:09:59,906 Speaker 1: flying colors. I knew I passed it with flying colors. Right. 200 00:09:59,906 --> 00:10:04,106 Speaker 1: I was that much prepared for the combine. But again, 201 00:10:04,186 --> 00:10:06,946 Speaker 1: just looking back on the business part of it, your 202 00:10:06,986 --> 00:10:10,666 Speaker 1: play gets you paid. And when I look back at negotiations, 203 00:10:11,106 --> 00:10:14,226 Speaker 1: and you know, after your rookie deal, I think the 204 00:10:14,306 --> 00:10:17,626 Speaker 1: agent is important to save face, to keep people's personal 205 00:10:17,666 --> 00:10:20,146 Speaker 1: feelings out of it, because, let's just be honest, a 206 00:10:20,146 --> 00:10:22,426 Speaker 1: lot of the National Football League are people of color. 207 00:10:22,626 --> 00:10:24,866 Speaker 1: A lot of people of color don't really trust business 208 00:10:24,986 --> 00:10:27,906 Speaker 1: or understand business just based off of history and whatsoever. 209 00:10:28,026 --> 00:10:29,826 Speaker 1: So when a lot of players and a lot of 210 00:10:29,826 --> 00:10:31,506 Speaker 1: guys that I know and I talked to, when they 211 00:10:31,586 --> 00:10:33,586 Speaker 1: hear about contracts and whatever, they just said, you know what, 212 00:10:33,706 --> 00:10:35,466 Speaker 1: my agent got it just put it to the age 213 00:10:35,466 --> 00:10:38,066 Speaker 1: because they don't even want to think about it. But again, 214 00:10:38,106 --> 00:10:41,146 Speaker 1: once I started reading contracts and understanding what was going on, 215 00:10:41,586 --> 00:10:44,146 Speaker 1: you know, I understood that. I understand the language. I 216 00:10:44,146 --> 00:10:45,866 Speaker 1: know what a good deal and what a bad deal 217 00:10:45,986 --> 00:10:50,506 Speaker 1: isn't um. But again, having that buffer when you're negotiating 218 00:10:50,546 --> 00:10:51,786 Speaker 1: with a team and then got to go out to 219 00:10:51,826 --> 00:10:54,146 Speaker 1: practice with them, and the same people that are coaching 220 00:10:54,146 --> 00:10:56,386 Speaker 1: you are also in there trying to get you for 221 00:10:56,426 --> 00:10:59,426 Speaker 1: a lower dollar that could get you emotional. And so yeah, 222 00:10:59,426 --> 00:11:02,506 Speaker 1: I do think an agent is important for that aspect 223 00:11:02,666 --> 00:11:04,826 Speaker 1: of negotiating. Do you ever think it slows it down, 224 00:11:05,466 --> 00:11:08,986 Speaker 1: like it's not to call like Lamar and obviously that 225 00:11:09,106 --> 00:11:11,266 Speaker 1: was you know sort of what was it was in 226 00:11:11,346 --> 00:11:13,146 Speaker 1: reference to like there's a part of me it says 227 00:11:13,146 --> 00:11:15,226 Speaker 1: now like if maybe it had an agent, maybe this 228 00:11:15,266 --> 00:11:16,866 Speaker 1: thing gets done. I have no idea, I don't have 229 00:11:16,866 --> 00:11:18,626 Speaker 1: inside knowledge to it, but I'm just wondering how that 230 00:11:18,666 --> 00:11:21,186 Speaker 1: affects the timing of things. I don't know. We don't 231 00:11:21,186 --> 00:11:23,986 Speaker 1: have any idea if that's the case either, but I 232 00:11:24,026 --> 00:11:28,586 Speaker 1: will say this, Um, yes, there would have been if 233 00:11:28,666 --> 00:11:30,666 Speaker 1: Lamar had an agent, there would be somebody in his 234 00:11:30,746 --> 00:11:32,866 Speaker 1: ear saying, bro, we gotta get this done. You can't 235 00:11:32,866 --> 00:11:34,786 Speaker 1: go out there the way that you play. Just more 236 00:11:34,826 --> 00:11:37,386 Speaker 1: advice from a business standpoint. But at the end of 237 00:11:37,386 --> 00:11:40,306 Speaker 1: the day, off, if Lamar understands who has the power 238 00:11:40,346 --> 00:11:43,426 Speaker 1: and an agent and player relationship, the agent works for you. 239 00:11:43,786 --> 00:11:46,586 Speaker 1: If Lamar has a number in his head from a 240 00:11:46,626 --> 00:11:49,706 Speaker 1: guaranteed standpoint that he wants, whether he has an agent 241 00:11:49,786 --> 00:11:52,106 Speaker 1: or not, the deal won't get done until the Baltimore 242 00:11:52,186 --> 00:11:54,466 Speaker 1: Ravens meet that number. So I'm gonna go into some 243 00:11:54,546 --> 00:11:57,706 Speaker 1: detail here. And there's another question that I have for 244 00:11:57,746 --> 00:12:01,786 Speaker 1: you about specific agents in general. But here's some quick 245 00:12:01,826 --> 00:12:06,106 Speaker 1: facts for you. There's nine and thirteen certified agents aren'tly 246 00:12:06,146 --> 00:12:08,306 Speaker 1: listed in the n f l p AS database. That's 247 00:12:08,306 --> 00:12:10,826 Speaker 1: important because you can't. I thought it was more than that. Well, 248 00:12:10,866 --> 00:12:13,506 Speaker 1: I mean think about that, like not in thirteen. I 249 00:12:13,546 --> 00:12:16,186 Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like you got to be proved. 250 00:12:16,266 --> 00:12:17,746 Speaker 1: I think that's I thought it was more than that, 251 00:12:17,866 --> 00:12:20,066 Speaker 1: quite frankly and honestly, in the NFL p A, they 252 00:12:20,106 --> 00:12:22,146 Speaker 1: do a great job. I get letters when there's these 253 00:12:22,186 --> 00:12:25,106 Speaker 1: bad agents out there, they put out alerts like, don't 254 00:12:25,146 --> 00:12:27,266 Speaker 1: mess with this guy. This is his number, this is 255 00:12:27,266 --> 00:12:29,706 Speaker 1: his picture, this is where his office is, all of 256 00:12:29,826 --> 00:12:33,346 Speaker 1: those things, because again, with a National Football league, there's 257 00:12:33,386 --> 00:12:35,786 Speaker 1: so many guys that just want to get their hands 258 00:12:35,786 --> 00:12:37,866 Speaker 1: on players, and they're trying to protect the players in 259 00:12:37,906 --> 00:12:39,906 Speaker 1: the aging business, which is really good that you should 260 00:12:39,906 --> 00:12:43,066 Speaker 1: be certified to do any deal with the league because 261 00:12:43,386 --> 00:12:45,186 Speaker 1: and not to make this like a broadcast deal, but 262 00:12:45,346 --> 00:12:48,026 Speaker 1: generally speaking, you don't need to be certified obviously if 263 00:12:48,026 --> 00:12:50,866 Speaker 1: you're going to represent on air people, and there needs 264 00:12:50,906 --> 00:12:52,986 Speaker 1: to be some of those letters that on some of 265 00:12:53,026 --> 00:12:57,746 Speaker 1: those i's nothing to do with the NFL, but not. 266 00:12:57,826 --> 00:12:59,666 Speaker 1: Everyone's always on the up and up, and that's just 267 00:12:59,706 --> 00:13:01,586 Speaker 1: sort of important to know. So the NFL and the 268 00:13:01,706 --> 00:13:04,266 Speaker 1: nflp A specifically trying to do their best to police 269 00:13:04,306 --> 00:13:06,506 Speaker 1: a lot of that. So you gotta be licensed by 270 00:13:06,546 --> 00:13:10,146 Speaker 1: the Players Association. All agents must pass an agent exam 271 00:13:10,546 --> 00:13:12,386 Speaker 1: that ensures they know the ends and the outs of 272 00:13:12,386 --> 00:13:15,386 Speaker 1: the collective bargaining agreement and the salary caps so they 273 00:13:15,386 --> 00:13:19,826 Speaker 1: can properly negotiate contracts against the team's salary cap manager. 274 00:13:20,026 --> 00:13:21,866 Speaker 1: Sort Of interesting because there's like a science to it. 275 00:13:21,906 --> 00:13:25,186 Speaker 1: You always here about topologist. NFL teams have it, NBA 276 00:13:25,266 --> 00:13:27,906 Speaker 1: teams the whole thing out of front offices deal in 277 00:13:27,946 --> 00:13:30,906 Speaker 1: those terms. The maximum and here's what I'm talking about here. 278 00:13:30,986 --> 00:13:35,186 Speaker 1: The maximum commission for NFL agents from a player's on 279 00:13:35,346 --> 00:13:38,346 Speaker 1: field earnings is three percent. That's set by the p A. 280 00:13:38,746 --> 00:13:40,746 Speaker 1: The standard commission, though sitting out one and a half 281 00:13:40,786 --> 00:13:45,106 Speaker 1: to two percent. Get that number lower. Come on, get 282 00:13:45,106 --> 00:13:47,506 Speaker 1: it as low as you possibly can. I know again, 283 00:13:47,586 --> 00:13:50,586 Speaker 1: for my agent at the time, I gave them three percent, 284 00:13:50,826 --> 00:13:52,706 Speaker 1: but it was based off of where I got drafted. 285 00:13:52,706 --> 00:13:54,546 Speaker 1: The higher I got drafted, the lower the number was. 286 00:13:55,066 --> 00:13:58,146 Speaker 1: Because you make more money, the lower the number money. 287 00:13:58,146 --> 00:14:00,106 Speaker 1: It off sets each other. So again that's something you 288 00:14:00,146 --> 00:14:02,226 Speaker 1: gotta look at, all right. So the maximum commission for 289 00:14:02,226 --> 00:14:05,306 Speaker 1: those who signed franchise or transition tenders, that's set at 290 00:14:05,306 --> 00:14:07,226 Speaker 1: two percent, and it drops to one and a half 291 00:14:07,306 --> 00:14:09,706 Speaker 1: one percent in the second and third years that a 292 00:14:09,746 --> 00:14:12,586 Speaker 1: player is signed to a franchise transition tender. So it 293 00:14:12,666 --> 00:14:15,226 Speaker 1: kind of is what m Rob's talking about. You know, 294 00:14:15,306 --> 00:14:17,906 Speaker 1: once there, you're not negotiating, you sign a franchise tag 295 00:14:17,946 --> 00:14:20,106 Speaker 1: like yo, the number set is what it is. It 296 00:14:20,186 --> 00:14:24,586 Speaker 1: does make sense that that number gets slotted in from 297 00:14:24,626 --> 00:14:27,506 Speaker 1: an agent's perspective. There's a ton of agents though, making 298 00:14:27,946 --> 00:14:31,906 Speaker 1: money from a player's off field earnings. There's no commission 299 00:14:32,066 --> 00:14:35,146 Speaker 1: limit on that side, standard commission rate for agents to 300 00:14:35,266 --> 00:14:38,506 Speaker 1: charge for off field earnings. Now that number is actually 301 00:14:38,506 --> 00:14:42,546 Speaker 1: coming from our research team. So who am I to say, like, man, 302 00:14:42,786 --> 00:14:46,066 Speaker 1: I don't know about that twenty off of Like so 303 00:14:46,106 --> 00:14:49,146 Speaker 1: if you're if you get like a Nike or apparelled 304 00:14:50,546 --> 00:14:56,466 Speaker 1: out the door. Seriously, I like that one and a 305 00:14:56,506 --> 00:14:59,586 Speaker 1: half percent number we were talking about before exactly, kind 306 00:14:59,586 --> 00:15:03,146 Speaker 1: of like when you're negotiating interest on a loan the banks, 307 00:15:03,186 --> 00:15:06,466 Speaker 1: same type of deal. Look, I always wanted to separate 308 00:15:06,866 --> 00:15:10,546 Speaker 1: my marketing people from my agent people. I wanted them 309 00:15:10,666 --> 00:15:13,866 Speaker 1: to separate companies. I want them competing. I want them 310 00:15:13,946 --> 00:15:17,786 Speaker 1: completely separate and actuality, And if my agent had a 311 00:15:17,866 --> 00:15:20,146 Speaker 1: market and deal that came up, I would say, wouldn't 312 00:15:20,146 --> 00:15:22,226 Speaker 1: give it to my marketing people. That is not your job, 313 00:15:22,866 --> 00:15:25,706 Speaker 1: it's not I don't want to convolute any buckets that 314 00:15:25,746 --> 00:15:27,466 Speaker 1: you may be looking at to get money from. I 315 00:15:27,466 --> 00:15:29,746 Speaker 1: don't want any gray area. It's black and white. You 316 00:15:29,826 --> 00:15:31,986 Speaker 1: do this, you do that. And I just think some 317 00:15:32,026 --> 00:15:35,186 Speaker 1: guys get in trouble by going with some agents who 318 00:15:35,186 --> 00:15:37,306 Speaker 1: will say, oh yeah, one stop shop. I can do 319 00:15:37,346 --> 00:15:38,666 Speaker 1: it all. I can do it all. I can do 320 00:15:38,706 --> 00:15:42,026 Speaker 1: it all. Well, unless you're going on a weekly basis, 321 00:15:42,106 --> 00:15:44,986 Speaker 1: line by line about what your your bills and invoices 322 00:15:45,026 --> 00:15:47,426 Speaker 1: and money is coming in, you don't know exactly where 323 00:15:47,426 --> 00:15:50,146 Speaker 1: that money is going. So again, I always charge guys 324 00:15:50,146 --> 00:15:52,586 Speaker 1: and tell them, look, man, take control of your own affairs. Well, 325 00:15:52,666 --> 00:15:54,506 Speaker 1: I god, I wish I had the skill and talent 326 00:15:54,546 --> 00:15:55,786 Speaker 1: that you did a plan in the league to have 327 00:15:55,866 --> 00:15:58,146 Speaker 1: to have some of these conversations and thought process. But 328 00:15:58,146 --> 00:15:59,706 Speaker 1: I always sat like this, like when I get my 329 00:15:59,746 --> 00:16:01,906 Speaker 1: taxes done, I go to a tax accountant. What only 330 00:16:01,946 --> 00:16:04,546 Speaker 1: does taxes? Like, I don't want you telling me about 331 00:16:04,586 --> 00:16:06,666 Speaker 1: some other products or some other investment, Like I don't 332 00:16:06,666 --> 00:16:08,546 Speaker 1: play that game. If you got insurance, you did them 333 00:16:08,546 --> 00:16:13,866 Speaker 1: with life insurance. Uh, just just just make sure Uncle 334 00:16:13,946 --> 00:16:16,226 Speaker 1: Sam's not coming out exactly. It's the only thing I 335 00:16:16,306 --> 00:16:19,386 Speaker 1: care about. Uh. And Rob touched on some of the 336 00:16:19,466 --> 00:16:21,426 Speaker 1: duties of an agent. I just want to list a 337 00:16:21,426 --> 00:16:24,666 Speaker 1: few because maybe not everyone is necessarily thinking in those terms. 338 00:16:24,746 --> 00:16:26,906 Speaker 1: You touched on the predraft workout, to combine the pro 339 00:16:27,026 --> 00:16:30,146 Speaker 1: day training, all of those things really important. Also helping 340 00:16:30,186 --> 00:16:34,226 Speaker 1: to facilitate pre draft workouts, supporting god insuring like college 341 00:16:34,226 --> 00:16:36,146 Speaker 1: All Star games. So when you think about East West 342 00:16:36,146 --> 00:16:38,026 Speaker 1: Shrine Ball, that one comes to mind. I was there 343 00:16:38,106 --> 00:16:41,346 Speaker 1: last year nfl p A Bowl. Um going back to Vegas. 344 00:16:41,586 --> 00:16:43,466 Speaker 1: You got to get on that, trying to get on 345 00:16:43,506 --> 00:16:44,986 Speaker 1: and actually be a lot of fun, to be able 346 00:16:44,986 --> 00:16:47,706 Speaker 1: to put you know what and just why you're going 347 00:16:47,706 --> 00:16:51,146 Speaker 1: through this. The agent, usually if it's a good agent, 348 00:16:51,186 --> 00:16:54,106 Speaker 1: has a staff like setting you up for the combine, 349 00:16:54,226 --> 00:16:56,786 Speaker 1: setting you up for these you know, visits the teams 350 00:16:56,826 --> 00:16:59,146 Speaker 1: or whatever. You don't necessarily have the time to be 351 00:16:59,186 --> 00:17:01,426 Speaker 1: talking to teams and setting up travel. There's a lot 352 00:17:01,426 --> 00:17:04,226 Speaker 1: of logistics that go into this. The agent does a 353 00:17:04,226 --> 00:17:06,586 Speaker 1: great job with their staffs kind of helping you out 354 00:17:06,586 --> 00:17:09,266 Speaker 1: in support you in that regard. Yeah, we mentioned the endorsements, 355 00:17:09,706 --> 00:17:15,146 Speaker 1: brand management, assisting setting up charities and charity events, public relations, 356 00:17:15,706 --> 00:17:19,306 Speaker 1: social media needs, interviews with media. I can't even tell 357 00:17:19,306 --> 00:17:21,546 Speaker 1: you how many times, just some of the radio work 358 00:17:21,586 --> 00:17:24,226 Speaker 1: that I've done where you get a guest before the 359 00:17:24,306 --> 00:17:27,706 Speaker 1: draft and you're going through their agent, so you're right like, hey, 360 00:17:27,826 --> 00:17:31,026 Speaker 1: I need to you need to coordinate my workouts slash 361 00:17:31,146 --> 00:17:35,026 Speaker 1: my travel city to city from my interviews helped me 362 00:17:35,066 --> 00:17:37,786 Speaker 1: with the psychologists. You can get me prepped for that interview. 363 00:17:37,786 --> 00:17:39,546 Speaker 1: When I go and talk to the team, Hey, some 364 00:17:39,586 --> 00:17:41,626 Speaker 1: people that might know people in that front office. What 365 00:17:41,706 --> 00:17:43,346 Speaker 1: are some of the questions that might be come in 366 00:17:43,386 --> 00:17:45,346 Speaker 1: my way? And then oh, by the way, on my 367 00:17:45,426 --> 00:17:48,026 Speaker 1: way to the airport or to the workout, Hey, I 368 00:17:48,026 --> 00:17:50,586 Speaker 1: gotta go and do this radio hit. There's a lot 369 00:17:50,626 --> 00:17:52,786 Speaker 1: of that stuff and people might oh, that's like how 370 00:17:52,826 --> 00:17:54,546 Speaker 1: bad could that be? You know, you try juggling all 371 00:17:54,546 --> 00:17:56,666 Speaker 1: that stuff. It's a lot, man. I know. For me, 372 00:17:56,706 --> 00:17:58,746 Speaker 1: when I was coming out, my agent had me get 373 00:17:58,746 --> 00:18:01,866 Speaker 1: a private quarterback to come in and train me because 374 00:18:01,906 --> 00:18:03,906 Speaker 1: again it was always that with position, he is going 375 00:18:03,946 --> 00:18:05,786 Speaker 1: to play those types of things. He brought an a 376 00:18:05,826 --> 00:18:07,626 Speaker 1: private quarterback for me. I ended up working out with 377 00:18:07,666 --> 00:18:10,306 Speaker 1: a private running back, coach, receiver, coach, all those things. 378 00:18:10,346 --> 00:18:12,946 Speaker 1: So again when I got in front of an NFL team, 379 00:18:12,986 --> 00:18:14,906 Speaker 1: I knew exactly what I was prepared to do. All right, 380 00:18:14,946 --> 00:18:17,346 Speaker 1: So we've talked about the agents. We told you about kickers, 381 00:18:17,346 --> 00:18:19,866 Speaker 1: specifically the punters. I just bring up Justin Tucker because 382 00:18:20,186 --> 00:18:22,426 Speaker 1: that gives me an opportunity to promote something that we 383 00:18:22,466 --> 00:18:24,346 Speaker 1: did last season, because you can go back and check 384 00:18:24,386 --> 00:18:26,546 Speaker 1: that Outum when we come back here on the NFL 385 00:18:26,586 --> 00:18:29,706 Speaker 1: Explained podcast, we're going to make the NFL and football 386 00:18:29,906 --> 00:18:40,066 Speaker 1: a family affair. I'll explain that coming up next. All right, 387 00:18:40,066 --> 00:18:42,866 Speaker 1: it's the episode that we talked about every single other episode, 388 00:18:42,906 --> 00:18:45,906 Speaker 1: and it is the mail bag edition of NFL Explained. Mike, 389 00:18:46,066 --> 00:18:48,306 Speaker 1: M and m Rob with you fire off those questions, because, 390 00:18:48,346 --> 00:18:49,386 Speaker 1: by the way, this is not the only time we're 391 00:18:49,386 --> 00:18:51,266 Speaker 1: gonna do one of these mail bag additions. I know. 392 00:18:51,346 --> 00:18:52,946 Speaker 1: So I think it was Anne who sent me a 393 00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:55,506 Speaker 1: d M. It was asking about defense and all that stuff. Ya, 394 00:18:55,546 --> 00:18:57,746 Speaker 1: we just did a podcast about that. So if you 395 00:18:57,826 --> 00:19:00,826 Speaker 1: miss any of our podcast, just remember that, like not 396 00:19:00,946 --> 00:19:02,786 Speaker 1: like timely, so we're not talking about like, hey, what 397 00:19:02,826 --> 00:19:05,546 Speaker 1: happened on Sunday, Like we're giving you some real stuff. 398 00:19:05,906 --> 00:19:08,866 Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to some of these questions here. 399 00:19:09,426 --> 00:19:11,586 Speaker 1: Did you ever by the way, have any teammates that 400 00:19:11,666 --> 00:19:15,466 Speaker 1: were I don't know, cousins, brothers, not that I can 401 00:19:15,546 --> 00:19:17,866 Speaker 1: remember off the top of my head. Now, you know, 402 00:19:17,906 --> 00:19:20,426 Speaker 1: I played with beasts, got a lot of cousins, you know, 403 00:19:20,426 --> 00:19:22,346 Speaker 1: I don't know if they real cousins, a fake cousins, 404 00:19:22,346 --> 00:19:24,746 Speaker 1: but a lot of cousins. So yeah, I do remember 405 00:19:24,826 --> 00:19:26,986 Speaker 1: him saying that's my cousin a few times. But I look, 406 00:19:27,226 --> 00:19:29,106 Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna say nothing. So here's one of 407 00:19:29,146 --> 00:19:30,906 Speaker 1: the questions that we got from the listener. T J. 408 00:19:30,986 --> 00:19:33,386 Speaker 1: Watt and his brother j J. Both have a chance 409 00:19:33,426 --> 00:19:37,186 Speaker 1: to be Hall of Famers. What other family legacies like 410 00:19:37,226 --> 00:19:40,306 Speaker 1: that have played in the NFL? Anything like, off the 411 00:19:40,346 --> 00:19:43,186 Speaker 1: top of your head, I'm not gonna cheat, I'm not 412 00:19:43,186 --> 00:19:47,586 Speaker 1: gonna look. Um, the Gronkowski, Oh yeah, that's a good one. 413 00:19:47,706 --> 00:19:51,066 Speaker 1: The Watts obviously j J. T J. And then they 414 00:19:51,066 --> 00:19:52,986 Speaker 1: got the full back that's out there with t J. 415 00:19:54,026 --> 00:19:57,426 Speaker 1: Uh boom. The Sharps. Sterling used to work for us. 416 00:19:57,626 --> 00:20:00,306 Speaker 1: He was actually my mentor in the broadcasting games. Sterling 417 00:20:00,746 --> 00:20:05,146 Speaker 1: and Ushannon Sharp, who was also on television. Uh. The Matthews, 418 00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:08,586 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Matthews. You see, I'm going with all 419 00:20:08,586 --> 00:20:11,986 Speaker 1: the blocking other positions. I'm not going to say the Mannings. 420 00:20:11,986 --> 00:20:16,226 Speaker 1: Everybody knows the Manning Jam, I guess the Mannings. Who 421 00:20:16,226 --> 00:20:19,386 Speaker 1: else is that it? Well, you got a bunch, man, 422 00:20:19,466 --> 00:20:21,666 Speaker 1: I mean the Mannings are the obvious ones, just because 423 00:20:21,666 --> 00:20:25,546 Speaker 1: of the legacy, the notoriety, the commercials. You know, Man, 424 00:20:25,666 --> 00:20:28,426 Speaker 1: think about this, if Peyton and Eli are paying that 425 00:20:28,506 --> 00:20:31,506 Speaker 1: to their agent on are you serious? Let's get back 426 00:20:31,506 --> 00:20:33,426 Speaker 1: to this agent conversation. Not that I want to dip 427 00:20:33,426 --> 00:20:37,266 Speaker 1: into commission, right, but but again, when you gotta I mean, 428 00:20:37,306 --> 00:20:40,266 Speaker 1: they got a franchise name, they got a manning name, 429 00:20:40,426 --> 00:20:43,186 Speaker 1: So why even hire somebody like that? How are your 430 00:20:43,226 --> 00:20:45,546 Speaker 1: dad keep the dollar in your family and just go 431 00:20:45,586 --> 00:20:47,306 Speaker 1: and go with it that way? I think that's what 432 00:20:47,346 --> 00:20:49,666 Speaker 1: they how they do it. Yeah, no, I'm with you there. 433 00:20:49,746 --> 00:20:53,106 Speaker 1: The bosses certainly come to my right, like John bossa 434 00:20:53,426 --> 00:20:56,666 Speaker 1: first round pick seven, and then obviously Nick and Joey 435 00:20:56,746 --> 00:21:00,586 Speaker 1: just tearing the muscles, own muscles, man muscles, own muscles. 436 00:21:00,626 --> 00:21:04,746 Speaker 1: You mentioned the Matthews. I didn't know, like I knew, 437 00:21:05,146 --> 00:21:07,586 Speaker 1: but I didn't know how deep it actually. They got 438 00:21:07,666 --> 00:21:11,266 Speaker 1: layers and layers of them. Okay, they got a football 439 00:21:11,346 --> 00:21:14,746 Speaker 1: trapped over there, right, The whole blood line of football players. Man, 440 00:21:15,106 --> 00:21:17,906 Speaker 1: and they can block, they can tackle. I mean they're 441 00:21:17,946 --> 00:21:20,226 Speaker 1: big guys too, So I just think this one's kind 442 00:21:20,226 --> 00:21:23,346 Speaker 1: of cool with this layer here. Uh, Clay Matthews senior, 443 00:21:23,586 --> 00:21:27,186 Speaker 1: taken in the twenty five round of the nineteen forty 444 00:21:27,346 --> 00:21:30,066 Speaker 1: nine NFL Draft. If you don't think that we're going 445 00:21:30,106 --> 00:21:33,426 Speaker 1: to get a male bad question about the draft when 446 00:21:33,426 --> 00:21:37,866 Speaker 1: it was in its twenty five rounds? Wow? Five rounds? 447 00:21:38,946 --> 00:21:40,826 Speaker 1: Is that like actually a thing? I didn't even know 448 00:21:40,866 --> 00:21:42,306 Speaker 1: that was. I knew, I knew they had a lot 449 00:21:42,306 --> 00:21:46,706 Speaker 1: of rounds, but I five though, all right, So check 450 00:21:46,746 --> 00:21:49,826 Speaker 1: this out. So that's Clay Matthews senior, so he played 451 00:21:49,826 --> 00:21:54,466 Speaker 1: defensive right. Hall of Famer. Who's Clay's senior son. That's 452 00:21:54,586 --> 00:21:58,506 Speaker 1: Bruce Matthews, fourteen time ball bowler. What's the record for 453 00:21:58,546 --> 00:22:00,546 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl? I mean, I don't know, four teens gotta 454 00:22:00,546 --> 00:22:02,826 Speaker 1: be close, though. I think Peyton has the record or 455 00:22:02,866 --> 00:22:06,346 Speaker 1: something like that. It's funny actually something to me. All right, 456 00:22:06,426 --> 00:22:10,826 Speaker 1: So you got Bruce Bruce Matthews right, then Clay Senior's 457 00:22:11,226 --> 00:22:14,866 Speaker 1: other son, that's Clay Matthews junior, four time pro bowler. 458 00:22:15,106 --> 00:22:18,706 Speaker 1: You got Clay Matthews the third who was Clay Junior Son, 459 00:22:18,906 --> 00:22:21,226 Speaker 1: six time pro bowler. Which one was the one that 460 00:22:21,266 --> 00:22:26,426 Speaker 1: went to sc Junior third? The last one? Yeah, okay, 461 00:22:26,586 --> 00:22:29,026 Speaker 1: that's who played with me. That dude was an animal 462 00:22:29,066 --> 00:22:31,586 Speaker 1: to block Brown. I hated going up against him, especially 463 00:22:31,586 --> 00:22:33,506 Speaker 1: when he played for the Green Bay Packers. I hate 464 00:22:33,506 --> 00:22:36,426 Speaker 1: it going up against Clay Matthews because, like I was 465 00:22:36,466 --> 00:22:39,746 Speaker 1: a thumper, right, so I wanted a physical altercation with you. 466 00:22:40,266 --> 00:22:42,426 Speaker 1: He didn't want that. He wanted to make the tackle 467 00:22:42,506 --> 00:22:44,946 Speaker 1: in the backfield a guy behind me. So it was 468 00:22:44,986 --> 00:22:47,826 Speaker 1: just hard blocking that guy. Man. An, It's it's kind 469 00:22:47,826 --> 00:22:50,426 Speaker 1: of crazy here. So by the way, it's not the 470 00:22:50,506 --> 00:22:55,026 Speaker 1: only layer that's there, right. So Jake Matthews, who's Bruce's son, 471 00:22:55,226 --> 00:22:58,146 Speaker 1: he was a pro bowler, Ksey Matthews, who was a 472 00:22:58,186 --> 00:23:01,546 Speaker 1: linebacker fourth round draft pick also and then you got 473 00:23:01,666 --> 00:23:05,666 Speaker 1: Kevin Matthews, Bruce's son. He started three games in the league. 474 00:23:05,786 --> 00:23:09,186 Speaker 1: Like the point is, like I remember when Stephanie Graff 475 00:23:09,186 --> 00:23:10,986 Speaker 1: and Andrea I guess he got married here, Like yo, 476 00:23:11,066 --> 00:23:13,026 Speaker 1: that that kid is going to be like the greatest 477 00:23:13,066 --> 00:23:15,786 Speaker 1: tennis player in the history of the sport. Like think 478 00:23:15,826 --> 00:23:18,906 Speaker 1: about the lineage and the Matthews family. Goodness, man, I 479 00:23:18,906 --> 00:23:22,186 Speaker 1: mean again, it's a football tribe, it's a football bloodline. 480 00:23:22,186 --> 00:23:24,426 Speaker 1: I mean we got the Hotwey Longs too, we got 481 00:23:24,426 --> 00:23:27,506 Speaker 1: the Long family. I forgot about the Long Colin Chris. 482 00:23:27,506 --> 00:23:30,226 Speaker 1: I played against both of those guys. Man. Chris was 483 00:23:30,266 --> 00:23:33,186 Speaker 1: a great div of the event in the National Football League. Man, 484 00:23:33,226 --> 00:23:35,346 Speaker 1: and he has a great podcast too. I gotta check 485 00:23:35,386 --> 00:23:38,026 Speaker 1: that out. Not that we should be promoting. No, we're 486 00:23:38,026 --> 00:23:41,066 Speaker 1: not promoting it. Make sure they promote. NFL explained that 487 00:23:41,106 --> 00:23:43,426 Speaker 1: we'll do some gift back. I gotta see them a text. Uh. 488 00:23:43,586 --> 00:23:47,186 Speaker 1: Ed McCaffrey, Christian McCaffrey forgot about right, I mean think 489 00:23:47,226 --> 00:23:49,986 Speaker 1: about you know Ed? And what was the story when 490 00:23:50,066 --> 00:23:55,626 Speaker 1: Christian got traded to the Niners that Kyle Shanahan babysat 491 00:23:55,746 --> 00:24:00,586 Speaker 1: and then Kyle's favorite player growing up was Ed McCaffrey. Yes, yes, 492 00:24:00,746 --> 00:24:03,906 Speaker 1: look at all the connections. Look at the university MS. Yeah, 493 00:24:03,946 --> 00:24:07,506 Speaker 1: Bob and Brian greasy little father son duo as well. 494 00:24:07,666 --> 00:24:09,586 Speaker 1: Only just because I mentioned this on a highlight the 495 00:24:09,586 --> 00:24:13,666 Speaker 1: other day, Travis Kelsey was at Jason Kelsey's Eagles game. 496 00:24:13,866 --> 00:24:16,466 Speaker 1: So the tight ends from Kansas City just drawing that 497 00:24:16,506 --> 00:24:20,706 Speaker 1: out there. Who else the mccordy's look for us, So 498 00:24:20,866 --> 00:24:25,066 Speaker 1: I was gonna say was good. So Devin mccordy and 499 00:24:25,106 --> 00:24:27,586 Speaker 1: then Jason mccordy and Slatter's too. I want to mention 500 00:24:27,746 --> 00:24:30,666 Speaker 1: Jackie Slater Hall of Fame tackle, seven time Pro bowler, 501 00:24:30,826 --> 00:24:34,106 Speaker 1: and Matthew Slater, who again one of the all time 502 00:24:34,266 --> 00:24:38,146 Speaker 1: great special team players in our league history. He's still 503 00:24:38,226 --> 00:24:41,666 Speaker 1: doing it, ten time Pro bowler strictly for special teams. 504 00:24:41,666 --> 00:24:44,226 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. You mentioned the Sharps. I'll throw out 505 00:24:44,266 --> 00:24:46,986 Speaker 1: the barber's tick and Ron day v A. How about 506 00:24:47,426 --> 00:24:51,826 Speaker 1: the pouncing name. Talk about some big boys. Yeah, man, 507 00:24:52,186 --> 00:24:54,706 Speaker 1: they were actually on a podcast here recently and they 508 00:24:54,826 --> 00:25:00,506 Speaker 1: lost some weight to all big guys man. Uh and 509 00:25:00,546 --> 00:25:02,946 Speaker 1: only because we work with him every Tuesday on Total Access. 510 00:25:03,106 --> 00:25:07,226 Speaker 1: It's our guys, David Carr the car. Yeah, how about 511 00:25:07,266 --> 00:25:09,746 Speaker 1: you pause their first second? I'm like, I didn't know 512 00:25:09,746 --> 00:25:13,026 Speaker 1: where you were going somewhere, oh David and Derek. Yeah. 513 00:25:13,266 --> 00:25:15,666 Speaker 1: And the amount of times have you caught yourself calling 514 00:25:15,746 --> 00:25:18,306 Speaker 1: David Derek? I'll do it probably once a week. Yeah, 515 00:25:18,546 --> 00:25:21,506 Speaker 1: I've done that before. I get He's like, Mike, there 516 00:25:21,546 --> 00:25:25,306 Speaker 1: you go, I just mess you can always go d C. 517 00:25:25,826 --> 00:25:28,506 Speaker 1: And and you're always You're always going to Clare. You'll 518 00:25:28,506 --> 00:25:30,866 Speaker 1: always be right on that one. But the point is 519 00:25:30,946 --> 00:25:32,986 Speaker 1: so many of these family combinations and the only other 520 00:25:33,066 --> 00:25:35,346 Speaker 1: thing that I'll throw out there the Harbaugh family from 521 00:25:35,346 --> 00:25:38,386 Speaker 1: the coaching tree, John and Jim, obviously, the Ryan Fry, 522 00:25:39,266 --> 00:25:42,426 Speaker 1: Buddy Robin Rex that's pretty cool man. And again Buddy 523 00:25:42,466 --> 00:25:44,906 Speaker 1: Ryan one of my all time favorite personalities in the 524 00:25:44,986 --> 00:25:47,506 Speaker 1: National Football they got. I never played for him, obviously, 525 00:25:47,666 --> 00:25:50,026 Speaker 1: but I wanted to. I always wanted to. Do you. 526 00:25:50,426 --> 00:25:56,026 Speaker 1: Um you ever watch Amazing Race sometimes? Yeah, was actually 527 00:25:56,106 --> 00:25:57,826 Speaker 1: on the show. I did not know that it was 528 00:25:57,826 --> 00:26:01,186 Speaker 1: actually kind of funny. Yeah, he should check that out. 529 00:26:01,426 --> 00:26:04,626 Speaker 1: That'll be like a little onto bad thing for you. 530 00:26:10,586 --> 00:26:13,146 Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to the NFL Explained podcasts. Mike, 531 00:26:13,226 --> 00:26:15,466 Speaker 1: Yeah and Rob with you all right? Another question for 532 00:26:15,506 --> 00:26:18,306 Speaker 1: your players play on different services. You've got natural grass, 533 00:26:18,346 --> 00:26:20,906 Speaker 1: you got turf. How do the guys actually decide what 534 00:26:20,906 --> 00:26:23,546 Speaker 1: cleats are going to use on the field? General rule 535 00:26:23,586 --> 00:26:26,146 Speaker 1: of thumb that I just learned. I actually haven't ever 536 00:26:26,186 --> 00:26:28,186 Speaker 1: really heard anybody to say. This is something I learned 537 00:26:28,186 --> 00:26:31,866 Speaker 1: just my own experience. The heavier you are, the less 538 00:26:31,866 --> 00:26:36,306 Speaker 1: spike you need, so if you're I've seen big guys 539 00:26:36,426 --> 00:26:40,546 Speaker 1: just put on like shoes with very little spikes at 540 00:26:40,546 --> 00:26:43,306 Speaker 1: the bottom, and they're so heavy that they don't slip, 541 00:26:43,466 --> 00:26:45,306 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they can actually walk on grass. 542 00:26:45,306 --> 00:26:47,466 Speaker 1: Be fine. The lighter you are, Yeah, you want the 543 00:26:47,506 --> 00:26:49,386 Speaker 1: modive cleats the guys that are doing a bunch of 544 00:26:49,386 --> 00:26:52,546 Speaker 1: cutting your wide receivers, your defensive backs and things like that. 545 00:26:52,626 --> 00:26:55,586 Speaker 1: And for me, it's playing in a place like Chicago 546 00:26:55,826 --> 00:26:59,506 Speaker 1: and Chicago Bear Stadium, their grass is always longer. So 547 00:26:59,746 --> 00:27:02,306 Speaker 1: I was playing a Michigan the grass is always longer. 548 00:27:02,346 --> 00:27:04,066 Speaker 1: I always thought that they didn't cut the grass on 549 00:27:04,066 --> 00:27:05,946 Speaker 1: purpose to make a slower but that's a whole other 550 00:27:06,266 --> 00:27:11,786 Speaker 1: podcast conversation, Yams. But in those longer grass situations or 551 00:27:11,906 --> 00:27:14,626 Speaker 1: muddy situations, you want to wear the detached cleats where 552 00:27:14,666 --> 00:27:17,146 Speaker 1: you pc people having to screw the cleats on because 553 00:27:17,146 --> 00:27:18,826 Speaker 1: you can make them longer, you can make them shorter. 554 00:27:18,866 --> 00:27:21,506 Speaker 1: So did you always wear the same ones and then 555 00:27:21,586 --> 00:27:24,666 Speaker 1: just feel it at or change depending on what the 556 00:27:24,706 --> 00:27:26,786 Speaker 1: conditions Like, if it was money and rainy, would you 557 00:27:26,786 --> 00:27:28,786 Speaker 1: just wear different cleats? Yeah, if it was muddy and rainy, 558 00:27:28,826 --> 00:27:30,786 Speaker 1: I already knew I was gonna go with the detached 559 00:27:31,146 --> 00:27:32,866 Speaker 1: if it was one of those games where it was 560 00:27:32,946 --> 00:27:37,506 Speaker 1: just damp natural grass. Though damp natural grass, yeah, I 561 00:27:37,586 --> 00:27:40,586 Speaker 1: would go out there in my usual molded ones to 562 00:27:40,826 --> 00:27:43,226 Speaker 1: feel it, and then if I felt like I was slipping, 563 00:27:43,266 --> 00:27:45,226 Speaker 1: I would go put on the detached. Now, if it 564 00:27:45,386 --> 00:27:49,546 Speaker 1: was rainy and it was filed turf, I never used 565 00:27:49,546 --> 00:27:52,546 Speaker 1: the detached because when it's field turf, I mean, it's 566 00:27:52,586 --> 00:27:54,906 Speaker 1: almost like being on a It's on a flat surface. 567 00:27:54,906 --> 00:27:57,346 Speaker 1: It's not giving as much as the natural ground would, 568 00:27:57,426 --> 00:28:00,306 Speaker 1: so wearing the longer spikes makes it more slippery. Did 569 00:28:00,306 --> 00:28:05,026 Speaker 1: you prefer playing on turf for grass? That's a hard 570 00:28:05,106 --> 00:28:09,826 Speaker 1: question because really you like the synthetic turf because it's 571 00:28:09,906 --> 00:28:13,386 Speaker 1: versatile and you know, you always got your footing, so 572 00:28:13,466 --> 00:28:18,266 Speaker 1: to speak. But natural grass gives and my limbs, my ligaments, 573 00:28:18,506 --> 00:28:21,586 Speaker 1: so like the natural grass, the field turf didn't give 574 00:28:21,626 --> 00:28:24,066 Speaker 1: as not as much as natural grass. So for me, 575 00:28:24,186 --> 00:28:26,866 Speaker 1: the stadium I always like to play in was there's 576 00:28:26,866 --> 00:28:31,986 Speaker 1: a Cardinals stadium. It's a natural grass, but indoors, it's 577 00:28:32,026 --> 00:28:34,106 Speaker 1: the best of both worlds. You see what I'm saying. 578 00:28:34,106 --> 00:28:37,386 Speaker 1: You've got no rain, no weather, but the ground gave 579 00:28:37,506 --> 00:28:39,266 Speaker 1: with you, you know what I'm saying. So it's pretty cool. 580 00:28:39,346 --> 00:28:41,066 Speaker 1: I think some people might say, Mike, like, why would 581 00:28:41,106 --> 00:28:45,386 Speaker 1: you think turf would give I don't think astro turf. No, 582 00:28:45,466 --> 00:28:48,386 Speaker 1: what I'm saying like a field turf, like the fake grass, 583 00:28:48,426 --> 00:28:51,226 Speaker 1: because it really is so I mean it's nice. Oh, 584 00:28:51,346 --> 00:28:53,346 Speaker 1: it's nice. And it has all these rubber pellets that 585 00:28:53,426 --> 00:28:55,346 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, shield you from falling and things 586 00:28:55,386 --> 00:28:57,026 Speaker 1: like that. And then think about the rubber pellets, Mike, 587 00:28:57,266 --> 00:29:00,066 Speaker 1: if you don't have a shield, you get grand into 588 00:29:00,066 --> 00:29:03,786 Speaker 1: the ground from a tackle or whatever. Dude, there's pellets everywhere. 589 00:29:04,226 --> 00:29:06,506 Speaker 1: People don't realize how hard that is man like to 590 00:29:06,666 --> 00:29:08,426 Speaker 1: see to get the stuff out of your head, to 591 00:29:08,506 --> 00:29:10,266 Speaker 1: get stuff out of your eyes. And what if you're sick, 592 00:29:10,346 --> 00:29:12,946 Speaker 1: what if you got a cold that day, Like, dude, 593 00:29:13,306 --> 00:29:15,546 Speaker 1: I can't call in and say I can't play today 594 00:29:15,586 --> 00:29:18,266 Speaker 1: because I got a stuff. He knowes. That's good point 595 00:29:18,786 --> 00:29:20,706 Speaker 1: the pellets, but which, by the way, we'll come up 596 00:29:20,746 --> 00:29:22,986 Speaker 1: in a second. Here. The pellets get all over you, 597 00:29:23,386 --> 00:29:25,386 Speaker 1: like if you walk on field turf, like it's it 598 00:29:25,506 --> 00:29:27,826 Speaker 1: like sticks to you, which is just this might be 599 00:29:27,906 --> 00:29:29,546 Speaker 1: a little much, but you know what, it's just me 600 00:29:29,586 --> 00:29:32,266 Speaker 1: and you here. It's just me and you here. Okay, Um, 601 00:29:32,706 --> 00:29:35,746 Speaker 1: take a shower after the game and it's pellets everywhere, 602 00:29:35,786 --> 00:29:39,386 Speaker 1: Pellets coming out everywhere in the shower, man everywhere. You're like, dude, 603 00:29:39,666 --> 00:29:41,826 Speaker 1: I have my pants on the whole time. Pell Lets 604 00:29:41,866 --> 00:29:44,906 Speaker 1: get right there. Pellets are everywhere, Mike. If you can imagine, 605 00:29:45,946 --> 00:29:47,786 Speaker 1: I don't want to. By the way, you're gonna get 606 00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:52,146 Speaker 1: some d M just about crevices and pellets. Okay, I'm 607 00:29:52,186 --> 00:29:54,546 Speaker 1: just saying, you said the word crevits. That might be 608 00:29:54,746 --> 00:29:56,946 Speaker 1: that might come your way. Hey, one other note, by 609 00:29:56,946 --> 00:29:59,706 Speaker 1: the way, on on, I heard this great story and 610 00:29:59,746 --> 00:30:01,946 Speaker 1: it's related to what you're saying. One of our colleagues 611 00:30:01,986 --> 00:30:04,586 Speaker 1: she married. She had said when he was coaching with 612 00:30:04,626 --> 00:30:07,986 Speaker 1: the Packers, Barry Sanders just at the time playing for 613 00:30:07,986 --> 00:30:09,386 Speaker 1: the Lions, and he's like, you know what we're gonna 614 00:30:09,386 --> 00:30:10,906 Speaker 1: do with him, you know what we're gonna do. We're 615 00:30:10,906 --> 00:30:13,266 Speaker 1: gonna slow him down. He said, we didn't cut the 616 00:30:13,306 --> 00:30:16,946 Speaker 1: grass at Lambo and we just soaked the field. And 617 00:30:17,026 --> 00:30:19,706 Speaker 1: he actually he laughed. He's like, we kept him in check, 618 00:30:19,786 --> 00:30:21,946 Speaker 1: like it was you know, I don't he didn't remember 619 00:30:21,946 --> 00:30:24,106 Speaker 1: the exact number, but it was like it's a real thing. 620 00:30:24,226 --> 00:30:26,186 Speaker 1: It was like fifty yards or something like that. It's 621 00:30:26,346 --> 00:30:30,866 Speaker 1: it's a real thing, man, competitive advantage. I did ask him, 622 00:30:30,706 --> 00:30:32,386 Speaker 1: I'm like, can you do that nowadays? He's like, I don't. 623 00:30:32,386 --> 00:30:34,146 Speaker 1: I don't really know. It's like back that we could 624 00:30:34,786 --> 00:30:38,346 Speaker 1: check him, So keep it to yourself. Moved. Hey. One 625 00:30:38,386 --> 00:30:40,586 Speaker 1: other note on just because I know people really you know, 626 00:30:40,706 --> 00:30:43,266 Speaker 1: got people who are like into shoes and like sneaker 627 00:30:43,266 --> 00:30:46,066 Speaker 1: culture and the whole thing. Just some research numbers on 628 00:30:46,746 --> 00:30:49,986 Speaker 1: the actual cleats themselves. As Emrod made reference, he got 629 00:30:49,986 --> 00:30:52,186 Speaker 1: the molded ones permanently fastened to the shoe. That's the 630 00:30:52,226 --> 00:30:55,626 Speaker 1: most common on artificial turf. The detached ones are the 631 00:30:55,626 --> 00:30:58,106 Speaker 1: ones that Emrob was talking about. They come off the soul. 632 00:30:58,466 --> 00:31:01,186 Speaker 1: They're usually longer spikes, and you're using those when the 633 00:31:01,226 --> 00:31:03,906 Speaker 1: weather is not great snow, when traction is a little 634 00:31:03,946 --> 00:31:08,306 Speaker 1: bit more difficult. What pros where actually found that six 635 00:31:09,066 --> 00:31:13,746 Speaker 1: of starting wide receivers and the season were Nike cleats. 636 00:31:13,786 --> 00:31:17,946 Speaker 1: The most popular where the Nike Vapor Edge three sixty speed, 637 00:31:18,306 --> 00:31:23,106 Speaker 1: super light, almost no ankle support, but I mean literally 638 00:31:23,146 --> 00:31:26,786 Speaker 1: it's super super light, Mike, you would holy shoes and 639 00:31:26,826 --> 00:31:29,466 Speaker 1: be like, oh my goodness, like do you even have 640 00:31:29,506 --> 00:31:32,146 Speaker 1: anything on your feet? Like do you even feel like 641 00:31:32,186 --> 00:31:35,106 Speaker 1: you have something on their super light? And again this 642 00:31:35,186 --> 00:31:38,346 Speaker 1: iteration of this three six speed because it used to 643 00:31:38,346 --> 00:31:40,306 Speaker 1: be Speed TV back when I was playing. It is 644 00:31:40,346 --> 00:31:42,586 Speaker 1: a little bit more durable. You can actually run as 645 00:31:42,626 --> 00:31:44,226 Speaker 1: hard as you can and make a cut in the 646 00:31:44,266 --> 00:31:46,346 Speaker 1: cleat won't burst. Sometimes back in the day to cleat 647 00:31:46,386 --> 00:31:49,266 Speaker 1: euston burst Adidas they're most popular. One. Do you know 648 00:31:49,306 --> 00:31:53,506 Speaker 1: this one? The Adidas at a zero zero? No, I 649 00:31:53,506 --> 00:31:55,626 Speaker 1: don't know about that one, um, but I'm sure my 650 00:31:55,666 --> 00:31:58,306 Speaker 1: thirteen year old does. There's no doubt actually taking a 651 00:31:58,386 --> 00:32:01,746 Speaker 1: selfie and going to the selfie and Rob. You know, 652 00:32:01,786 --> 00:32:04,706 Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting because the NFL began tracking cleats 653 00:32:04,706 --> 00:32:07,746 Speaker 1: players where in the nineteen to find some trends between 654 00:32:07,826 --> 00:32:10,946 Speaker 1: cleats and lower body injuries. That's pretty cool man, that 655 00:32:11,026 --> 00:32:14,146 Speaker 1: they're actually even looking at that, because again, the way 656 00:32:14,186 --> 00:32:16,466 Speaker 1: that your foot hits the ground is the first part 657 00:32:16,466 --> 00:32:19,186 Speaker 1: of health when you're talking about athletes. Em. Rob, you know, actually, 658 00:32:19,266 --> 00:32:21,866 Speaker 1: since you knew all about like the Nike vapor cleats 659 00:32:21,866 --> 00:32:23,746 Speaker 1: in the whole thing, I'm gonna throw something in your way. 660 00:32:23,786 --> 00:32:25,626 Speaker 1: It's one of the coolest things that I think the 661 00:32:25,666 --> 00:32:28,026 Speaker 1: league allows to happen because, as we know, the NFL 662 00:32:28,106 --> 00:32:30,266 Speaker 1: would be a little sticklers on uniform right, you know 663 00:32:30,266 --> 00:32:32,906 Speaker 1: where I'm going with very much sticker on uniforms. Yes, 664 00:32:33,226 --> 00:32:37,706 Speaker 1: my cause, my cleats I love. First of all, they 665 00:32:37,706 --> 00:32:40,466 Speaker 1: get to do cool designs and all that stuff. I mean, 666 00:32:40,506 --> 00:32:42,506 Speaker 1: it is and it's for a good cause. Like depending 667 00:32:42,506 --> 00:32:44,026 Speaker 1: on what the cause of the player is, did you 668 00:32:44,066 --> 00:32:45,866 Speaker 1: take part in any of that stuff? Um, no, ity 669 00:32:45,866 --> 00:32:47,626 Speaker 1: didn't start doing it until I was on this side 670 00:32:47,626 --> 00:32:49,386 Speaker 1: of it. But I did take part in it on 671 00:32:49,426 --> 00:32:51,346 Speaker 1: this side, on the media side of it, because I'm 672 00:32:51,386 --> 00:32:55,266 Speaker 1: an next player. The NFL Player Engagement Department, Yes, they 673 00:32:55,306 --> 00:32:56,986 Speaker 1: come and ask us if we want on my cause 674 00:32:57,026 --> 00:33:00,386 Speaker 1: my cleats. But I think it's awesome. It's allowing players 675 00:33:00,426 --> 00:33:03,346 Speaker 1: to take ownership of their causes, allowing players to say, look, 676 00:33:03,426 --> 00:33:06,026 Speaker 1: this is what means the most to me when you're 677 00:33:06,026 --> 00:33:07,946 Speaker 1: watching me out here running around, when you're watching me 678 00:33:07,946 --> 00:33:09,706 Speaker 1: out here and put my body on the line and 679 00:33:09,746 --> 00:33:11,626 Speaker 1: things like that, I'm doing it for this cause. And 680 00:33:11,626 --> 00:33:14,906 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty cool for me from a cleat standpoint. 681 00:33:14,986 --> 00:33:18,786 Speaker 1: I used to always steal Russell's and Marshawn's cleats because 682 00:33:18,786 --> 00:33:20,546 Speaker 1: they were the big money dudes man, and they got 683 00:33:20,586 --> 00:33:23,666 Speaker 1: all the sweet cleats from Nike. So I'm like Russell 684 00:33:24,226 --> 00:33:27,306 Speaker 1: after Tuesday's practice, I need those cleats because he wore 685 00:33:27,306 --> 00:33:30,066 Speaker 1: a new pair every day with the green tips after 686 00:33:30,066 --> 00:33:32,386 Speaker 1: Tuesday practice. Them need to come on over to Mike 687 00:33:32,466 --> 00:33:35,106 Speaker 1: Rob's locker and then I wear him Sunday and he's fine. 688 00:33:35,146 --> 00:33:37,866 Speaker 1: He got like thirty more pairs. He's fine. He's a quarterback. 689 00:33:37,866 --> 00:33:39,546 Speaker 1: He got half a bill and dollar. Dude, we all 690 00:33:39,626 --> 00:33:41,626 Speaker 1: knew he was gonna get paid. And then Beast Mood 691 00:33:41,666 --> 00:33:45,026 Speaker 1: Beast Moore would still my real shoes, like my real 692 00:33:45,066 --> 00:33:48,026 Speaker 1: shoes that I wore to work. You know what I'm saying, 693 00:33:49,186 --> 00:33:51,826 Speaker 1: drive home in sometimes, you know what I'm saying. Because 694 00:33:51,866 --> 00:33:53,906 Speaker 1: he would take my real shoes. I would take his 695 00:33:53,946 --> 00:33:55,746 Speaker 1: cleats because he would have he would put the goal 696 00:33:55,906 --> 00:33:57,946 Speaker 1: and he would pay the fees and the fines for 697 00:33:58,026 --> 00:34:00,186 Speaker 1: not having the team colors on because they would find 698 00:34:00,266 --> 00:34:02,506 Speaker 1: us if your cleat is not the team colors. He 699 00:34:02,546 --> 00:34:04,586 Speaker 1: didn't care. He just had a stand in check waiting 700 00:34:04,666 --> 00:34:06,666 Speaker 1: for him him. You can have it. I'm wearing the cleats. 701 00:34:06,706 --> 00:34:09,026 Speaker 1: I want best mode. They were pretty doped. Alright. One 702 00:34:09,106 --> 00:34:12,066 Speaker 1: last question, because I don't want someone to d m 703 00:34:12,106 --> 00:34:14,826 Speaker 1: me saying why didn't you ask Rob about this? You 704 00:34:14,866 --> 00:34:18,466 Speaker 1: didn't take Russell's cleats every single day, which means if 705 00:34:18,506 --> 00:34:21,746 Speaker 1: he was not wearing them twice, where did the extra 706 00:34:21,786 --> 00:34:24,906 Speaker 1: ones go? Yeah, so at the end of I don't know, 707 00:34:24,986 --> 00:34:27,546 Speaker 1: every three or four games I was actually in charge 708 00:34:27,546 --> 00:34:29,466 Speaker 1: of when I was playing, in the middle of the 709 00:34:29,506 --> 00:34:32,026 Speaker 1: locker room, this big box full of cleats and we 710 00:34:32,066 --> 00:34:34,826 Speaker 1: would just e k our equipment manager. He would take 711 00:34:34,866 --> 00:34:37,666 Speaker 1: those cleats to a local high school. Local very cool. 712 00:34:38,066 --> 00:34:42,626 Speaker 1: Donate I mean literally one where cleats, literally one where 713 00:34:42,706 --> 00:34:45,306 Speaker 1: gloves one where I mean do you give them? You 714 00:34:45,306 --> 00:34:47,506 Speaker 1: give them away? Who just fast forward for a second, 715 00:34:47,506 --> 00:34:50,866 Speaker 1: because you do so much youth football. If you find 716 00:34:50,906 --> 00:34:54,586 Speaker 1: out that you could be wearing Russell Wilson's cleats, do 717 00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:57,946 Speaker 1: you actually want to wear them? Well, like you want 718 00:34:57,946 --> 00:34:59,466 Speaker 1: to just like I want to like put those into 719 00:34:59,506 --> 00:35:02,146 Speaker 1: like a nice case. So it's crazy, right, Um. I 720 00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:05,386 Speaker 1: donate a lot of stuff to like, you know, good 721 00:35:05,386 --> 00:35:08,666 Speaker 1: will stuff in Richmond. And yeah, you got old Russell 722 00:35:08,666 --> 00:35:11,186 Speaker 1: Wilson jerseys that I bought my kids when they were 723 00:35:11,546 --> 00:35:15,306 Speaker 1: old Mike rob jerseys walking around Richmond. People have no 724 00:35:15,466 --> 00:35:17,986 Speaker 1: clue that those are real jerseys in a real locker room. 725 00:35:18,226 --> 00:35:20,186 Speaker 1: Warned by real guy. Yeah, it's because I don't have 726 00:35:20,266 --> 00:35:23,946 Speaker 1: enough space forms. I give it away, literally, like sign 727 00:35:23,986 --> 00:35:26,466 Speaker 1: bought footballs and everything. I have so much, I give 728 00:35:26,506 --> 00:35:29,146 Speaker 1: it away. I got a Beast Mode Hawaii jersey from 729 00:35:29,226 --> 00:35:31,946 Speaker 1: one of his Pro Bowls that I accidentally gave to 730 00:35:31,986 --> 00:35:35,346 Speaker 1: the cook Will. This kid is just walking around has 731 00:35:35,426 --> 00:35:40,106 Speaker 1: no that's a small game war here here if you're 732 00:35:40,146 --> 00:35:42,386 Speaker 1: in rich Man and there's a good Will near you 733 00:35:42,706 --> 00:35:48,506 Speaker 1: and you see some cool like Seattle gear. But we 734 00:35:48,626 --> 00:35:51,386 Speaker 1: just just realized, um, look, I know we got so 735 00:35:51,426 --> 00:35:54,746 Speaker 1: many questions. I was so thrilled to get not only 736 00:35:54,786 --> 00:35:57,826 Speaker 1: the words of encouragement like hey really love the like 737 00:35:57,826 --> 00:36:00,386 Speaker 1: it's really cool, Like are actually checking out this podcast, 738 00:36:00,626 --> 00:36:03,146 Speaker 1: continue to support us man, really really do appreciate it. 739 00:36:03,186 --> 00:36:05,106 Speaker 1: If we didn't get to your question, I promise you 740 00:36:05,426 --> 00:36:08,426 Speaker 1: I'm literally screenshotting and sending them all to our game. 741 00:36:08,706 --> 00:36:12,746 Speaker 1: So this went way longer than we were I text everyone, 742 00:36:12,866 --> 00:36:15,706 Speaker 1: I throw in like fire emojis and the whole thing. 743 00:36:16,426 --> 00:36:18,186 Speaker 1: But make sure you follow us on Twitter at real 744 00:36:18,266 --> 00:36:21,026 Speaker 1: Mike rob at Mike underscore yeamh and I promised this 745 00:36:21,066 --> 00:36:23,546 Speaker 1: is not the only mail bag episode we are going 746 00:36:23,626 --> 00:36:25,826 Speaker 1: to do. I promised before the season is over. We 747 00:36:25,826 --> 00:36:30,706 Speaker 1: got at least one five more just like doing these, 748 00:36:30,826 --> 00:36:33,706 Speaker 1: so keep them coming. Really do appreciate it. That's uh. 749 00:36:33,866 --> 00:36:35,626 Speaker 1: The mail bag episode explained