Speaker 1: Hi everybody, and welcome to Katie's Crib. As you guys know,
Speaker 1: I really like to do episodes about stuff that I
Speaker 1: need to know about, and so this episode is all
Speaker 1: about year one milestones. We are really circling my son
Speaker 1: Albi's first year birthday and I am, you know, trying
Speaker 1: not to freak out. UM. So what we're talking about
Speaker 1: is like the first mile, to the first steps, to
Speaker 1: the first words, and we're going to talk about some
Speaker 1: developmental and physical growth stuff that happens during this amazing
Speaker 1: and absolutely insane first year. UM. And we're also going
Speaker 1: to talk about some of the important things to look
Speaker 1: out for and also very importantly how to enjoy the
Speaker 1: special and awesome moments in the first year of your
Speaker 1: child's life. Today, I'm super stoked. We have amazing guests.
Speaker 1: We have the wonderful and amazing pediatrician who I've been
Speaker 1: working with very closely and texting NonStop in New York
Speaker 1: City while I'm here doing UM waitress. She is a
Speaker 1: pediatrician by name of Dr Danielle Taylor. Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Than she is amazing, UM. And then we also have
Speaker 1: Nicolette Robinson, who is running a little late because I
Speaker 1: guess subways are crazy in New York and we are
Speaker 1: super bar downtown, so she'll be entering in a little bit.
Speaker 1: And then a very good friend, Jamie Stetler, who literally
Speaker 1: was driven to high school by my husband, Adam drove
Speaker 1: me to high school. I'm up around the corner for
Speaker 1: me and here we are now, and Jamie and I
Speaker 1: have known each other for years. And Jamie, how old
Speaker 1: is your daughter? Sonny is fifteen months? Fifteen months almost
Speaker 1: sixteen months, And I can't even imagine getting to that
Speaker 1: place at like a year, Like I'm like, what, what's
Speaker 1: going to happen? Now? This is so insane? And UM,
Speaker 1: Dr Danielle Taylor, who will just call Danielle now right? Perfect? Okay, great, UM,
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about yourself. We came to
Speaker 1: meet um through an actor in Waitress the musical. I've
Speaker 1: seriously I'll be had a cold and cough for the
Speaker 1: fifty million time and I needed a pdhan to reach
Speaker 1: out to. So I've I'm practicing, uh, the faculty practice
Speaker 1: at Columbia Universities. I worked for Columbia UM and it's
Speaker 1: just you've been there. It's a little small shop and
Speaker 1: we see patients and we have fun and we see
Speaker 1: babies and UM, I've been practicing for fourteen years. UM,
Speaker 1: and your mom yourself, I am. I have two children.
Speaker 1: I have eleven year old, so you I forgot to
Speaker 1: a thirteen year old. Someone asks, like another month, Well,
Speaker 1: now you're in years, so I guess we still forget
Speaker 1: that kind of easier. Who even knows? Um, So let's
Speaker 1: start with you, um, Dr Taylor Danielle. So when you
Speaker 1: come in for your like the one year check up
Speaker 1: is like this big thing. Are there actual, real like
Speaker 1: milestones that you're looking for? I mean, I think it's
Speaker 1: important to um know that milestones, developmental midlestones have big ranges.
Speaker 1: So what some child would One child will do it
Speaker 1: nine months, another child will do it fifteen months, and
Speaker 1: we don't care when it happens. It makes everybody crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this makes me feel so much better.
Speaker 1: Say I told you this podcast was just very selfish.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't. It's a party trick. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything special to us if they do it in in
Speaker 1: nine months versus fifteen months, as long as they're progressing. Brilliant.
Speaker 1: Because I literally went to a baby class here in
Speaker 1: New York and there was a mom whipping out flash
Speaker 1: cards to her nine month old and the baby could
Speaker 1: like touch her nose and touch her head and do
Speaker 1: all these things, which like Albie has like a now
Speaker 1: her nowhere near like his no party tricks. Not really.
Speaker 1: So I was like, of course, you're just going to
Speaker 1: freak out, land. Um, Now, did you feel a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure, um, Jamie when your daughter turned one, like
Speaker 1: about these milestones, like to have you felt like she
Speaker 1: was crawling by a certain age or she was not
Speaker 1: speaking yet or things like that. Well, what's so interesting
Speaker 1: about Sonny is that she was walking at ten months,
Speaker 1: Like see walking? What? Well, But here's the thing is
Speaker 1: that she never crawled, so everyone else was crawling. She
Speaker 1: would always just kind of stand there like she wanted
Speaker 1: to be a big girl, and she just she stood there.
Speaker 1: And so when she's walking, everyone's like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: she's walking. I can't believe she's walking. But now all
Speaker 1: of her friends are starting to have all these words,
Speaker 1: and she says mama and dada and like that's it. Hey,
Speaker 1: there's two. But so it's like some people do some
Speaker 1: things faster than some do others. And so for us,
Speaker 1: it was more like she seems super ahead at certain things,
Speaker 1: but she's also like a lot bigger than all of
Speaker 1: her friends, and it was like, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: And and that's exactly how it goes. So so they
Speaker 1: sometimes will work on one skill, a verbal skill, and
Speaker 1: then the motor skills will kind of just stay where
Speaker 1: they are for a little bit and then they'll work
Speaker 1: on that skill. So it really is a big range. Um.
Speaker 1: Neither of my children called. They both started walking, which
Speaker 1: is nerve racking at nine months when they're not crawling.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Like literally, I'll be just started crawling.
Speaker 1: He's eleven months. He just started crawling like a week ago,
Speaker 1: and I've been having a fucking heart attack. Now he's
Speaker 1: army crawled for months. Uh no, not belly up. And
Speaker 1: I was having a heart attack googling at three o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning during my insomnia of like why isn't
Speaker 1: my baby crawling? Because really, I think what motherhood, and
Speaker 1: especially around this year, milestone is so much about. It's funny.
Speaker 1: It's like an acting career. It's like that compared despair
Speaker 1: thing which you really don't want to do, of like
Speaker 1: really measuring up your child all the time with when
Speaker 1: the other babies in class are doing things. Um, but
Speaker 1: he started crawling like a week ago, which is like
Speaker 1: super late. But I mean, what are you gonna do
Speaker 1: about it? Right? But it's like, but then he has
Speaker 1: a thousand teeth, Like a thousand teeth. Why does he
Speaker 1: have so many teeth? I don't know. Um, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: interrupt really quick and we'll get back to this to
Speaker 1: introduce the amazing Nicolet Robinson, who is my new friend
Speaker 1: and is currently playing Jenna in Waitress. Yes, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm late. You guys mama problems. I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: that's the that's it. And also, you were starring on
Speaker 1: Broadway yesterday, Like I sing like eleven songs of the
Speaker 1: musical and Nicolet sings thirty billion songs in the musical
Speaker 1: and care I think you're only offstage for one minute
Speaker 1: probably and your line before you leave the stages, I
Speaker 1: have to go pee, which I know Sarah Brella is
Speaker 1: put in there specifically because she was like, you can't
Speaker 1: go to and a half hours without going to that room. Um,
Speaker 1: so tell us about you have a daughter. I do.
Speaker 1: She has sixteen months same age and wait, so you
Speaker 1: just said so my daughter was all, I'm just hopping
Speaker 1: in but like my daughter was so late and crawling
Speaker 1: as well and walking, she just started she started walking
Speaker 1: like last months, like a fifteen months she started walking.
Speaker 1: And no, it's not right in there only because you see,
Speaker 1: compared to everybody else there kids that are off exactly.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, all her friends were long before her,
Speaker 1: and we were just like she's taken her town. And
Speaker 1: did you feel the chill about that? Like are you
Speaker 1: good at like checking yourself of like this is just
Speaker 1: when she needs to do it, and that's fine, Like
Speaker 1: as long as the doctors aren't worried, I should not worry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think. I mean every you of course want your
Speaker 1: kid to be ahead of the ahead of the game always.
Speaker 1: You have this internal competition always. But yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I mean everybody was saying you're lucky, like you don't
Speaker 1: have to run all over chasing her and listen that
Speaker 1: so I mean, but but she also she's she's been
Speaker 1: ahead like in terms of like words and yeah, she's
Speaker 1: she's very more about like the verbal and the and
Speaker 1: its visual and seeing things in the movement. She's been
Speaker 1: she's been chill but she hasn't been like anxious about
Speaker 1: it as long as she's not feeling you know, upset
Speaker 1: or feeling exactly exactly. They do not care. You're always
Speaker 1: so happy you don't care. Um, can you guys? Really? Also? Uh,
Speaker 1: I want to get into some more specifics with Danielle
Speaker 1: the doctor, but also tell me about UM. I know
Speaker 1: we're talking a lot about like physical milestones with babies
Speaker 1: and compared despaired. And I think you bring up a
Speaker 1: really important point, Jamie that I think in this world
Speaker 1: of social media, it's gotten like so much worse. Like
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many friends that post the
Speaker 1: video of their baby's first steps or the baby's first crawl,
Speaker 1: or the baby's first word, or the first time the
Speaker 1: baby feeds themselves, and I go right into where does
Speaker 1: my baby measure up in that? And it sucks. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: like you can't. Can you not your face all day
Speaker 1: every day? And I'm doing it too, like I'm one
Speaker 1: guilty like of of you know, like you know, posting
Speaker 1: family photos to family and things like that, of like
Speaker 1: the milestones that he's reaching. Um. And also size is
Speaker 1: a big like every time I get you know, Albie
Speaker 1: is really small. He's in the seventeen percentile. Sonny is
Speaker 1: in the center. I'm sure you feel concerned about that,
Speaker 1: and I feel concerned about him being small, and I'm
Speaker 1: completely clueless. I could not tell you in a million years.
Speaker 1: And that's actually the better way to be that she's
Speaker 1: like average. I have no idea, no matter what I say. People,
Speaker 1: So she's on the twentieth percentile, that's great, Well shouldn't
Speaker 1: she be on the eighth pisente, Well she was on
Speaker 1: the fifth percentile last time, So we're getting there. It's
Speaker 1: all you and your temperament. And I have to say
Speaker 1: this is so important with whatever pediatrican you're working with,
Speaker 1: but so lovingly that I'm working right now with doctor
Speaker 1: Danielle that I feel like you always make me chill
Speaker 1: about it, Like when you were like, well, i'll he's
Speaker 1: measuring in the seventeenth percentile, so you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think he said something like so whatever, he's not
Speaker 1: the biggest. He's not the biggest kid in the sandbox,
Speaker 1: but like has he always been at that? And yes,
Speaker 1: he's always consistently growing and never dropping scarily below that.
Speaker 1: But you always make me feel at ease thanks for
Speaker 1: saying I really appreciate that. Um. So uh. I want
Speaker 1: to talk really quickly also about the one year like
Speaker 1: birthday party situation that's going on now that we're in
Speaker 1: social media. Um, because I'm in the midst of planning it.
Speaker 1: I definitely said I wasn't having one stressful. Did you
Speaker 1: ladies have a big for one your birthday party? And
Speaker 1: you as well for your I can't remember me. I
Speaker 1: can't remember. There was no social media back then, and
Speaker 1: I can't remember. My dad's gonna kill me. No, she's not.
Speaker 1: She doesn't remember either. Um, Jamie, did you have a
Speaker 1: big birthday party? We did. I would have done it
Speaker 1: in my apartment, but I was like, the smallest number
Speaker 1: of people is like all of our immediate family, and
Speaker 1: I was like, there's not enough places for people to
Speaker 1: sit in our apartment for like the adults who me
Speaker 1: and so we did it in the lounge of our building.
Speaker 1: So I was like thinking that that meant it would
Speaker 1: still be chill, because it's like in our home quote unquote.
Speaker 1: But then it was like, did you invite this person?
Speaker 1: Did you invite that person? And the list just kept
Speaker 1: growing and growing and growing, and Brian's like, what about
Speaker 1: this person I work with as a kid their age
Speaker 1: and this person I work with, oh, and that person
Speaker 1: would love to come. The list kept growing, and at
Speaker 1: first it was like, we're just gonna put some balloons up,
Speaker 1: and then it was like, we need a theme, and
Speaker 1: then it turned into Sunny's First Fiesta, and then you
Speaker 1: were then you were cut to. You told me you
Speaker 1: were making like Sonny's Margarita's from Scratch Sonny that we
Speaker 1: got like the mini patron bottles, and I like, and
Speaker 1: we got these colorful straw that sound like a dope party.
Speaker 1: Though I was like, well, I was like, I want
Speaker 1: to have a drink at this part of course, and
Speaker 1: so and then it just it was one thing after
Speaker 1: the other. And then I was like, the only thing
Speaker 1: I care about is the Momofuku birthday cake because it
Speaker 1: is the best cake. It's on my to do list
Speaker 1: because of you, best cake in the city, and everyone
Speaker 1: loves it. So I got that. And then you hear,
Speaker 1: what about a smash cake? Is there a smash cake
Speaker 1: for her? And I'm like, a smash cake? She's never
Speaker 1: even had cake? Exactly? Can you explain what the hell
Speaker 1: of smash cake is? It's a small, like personal size
Speaker 1: cake just for her that she can do whatever she
Speaker 1: wants with and that's usually smash it okay, And I
Speaker 1: want to know what the statistics are the babies that
Speaker 1: actually do it well. We put the cake in front
Speaker 1: of her, expecting her to like lose her mind. She
Speaker 1: was like, what is happening? What is this thing? So
Speaker 1: I start literally like stopping the cake. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: went and got this cake because it's all about us.
Speaker 1: You're gonna eat the smash cake. It is here, I
Speaker 1: thought it. And then she was like and then you
Speaker 1: could tell she was kind of like, all right, this
Speaker 1: taste kind of good. And she had a couple of
Speaker 1: bites and everyone's taking pictures of her. She looks horrified, horrified,
Speaker 1: But it was like, you do all these things because
Speaker 1: there are things that everyone tells you that you have
Speaker 1: to do. Did you feel like it was worth it? It
Speaker 1: It was afterwards, like when you look back through the pictures,
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm so glad I have these fun pictures
Speaker 1: with this beautiful color balloons and the little sunny Rita's
Speaker 1: like it's cute and I'm glad that we did it.
Speaker 1: But A, I will tell you the whole week leading
Speaker 1: up to it. I barely slapped. I was so stressed
Speaker 1: out about it because it was one thing after another,
Speaker 1: like you got the balloons, oh, and now where are
Speaker 1: we going to get this? And where are we gonna
Speaker 1: get that? And then the other thing. I will tell you,
Speaker 1: and I don't like to really give advice, but if
Speaker 1: you're gonna leave you a birthday party, have a human
Speaker 1: or two or three who do not have children, who
Speaker 1: are there to help only help you, like facilitate a party,
Speaker 1: whether it's a babysitter, a nanny, a family. My best
Speaker 1: friend Jesse was there. God bless you Jess. She was
Speaker 1: like making the margarita, would make up strong. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like you got tanked? Because that's what my dream is.
Speaker 1: I was like drinking, but it's like there's just so
Speaker 1: you know, like when you're in party mode, it's like
Speaker 1: a whole other there's a lot of adrenaline. I also
Speaker 1: feel like the one your birthday party and I want
Speaker 1: to hear what you didn't neglect to. I also feel
Speaker 1: like the one your birthday party is it has it's
Speaker 1: just so much more for us than it is for
Speaker 1: the baby. Because right the one year old doesn't care,
Speaker 1: and it's more I think, just a celebration that you've
Speaker 1: made it to a year and like you did it,
Speaker 1: and like that's why I think we have these images
Speaker 1: in our head of like, well, I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: do anything, but now I'm like, but I want to
Speaker 1: pat myself on the back and have a themed party
Speaker 1: and like congratulate myself and definitely have like one or
Speaker 1: five mimosas. Like you realize all the pictures of all
Speaker 1: the first birthday parties that you've seen, how much went
Speaker 1: into those. You don't realize until you do it, and
Speaker 1: you're like, how do people have the time and the
Speaker 1: money and the energy for all? Did you have a
Speaker 1: big na? We did? I mean, of course it was stressful.
Speaker 1: I mean we were trying to make it as chill
Speaker 1: as possible. And my birthday is five days before hers,
Speaker 1: and it was my thirtieth birthday, and so we were
Speaker 1: like big, big for mama and yeah, so so poor baby.
Speaker 1: Her birthday totally got on the back burner. It was
Speaker 1: I mean, like days before we decided we had no theme.
Speaker 1: We had no but we decided we were going to
Speaker 1: do it at my parents house and we were still
Speaker 1: in l A. At the time. I literally had found
Speaker 1: out days before that I had booked Waitress Musical on
Speaker 1: Broadway and that we were coming. So it was like
Speaker 1: lots of craziness and excitement. And I also had to
Speaker 1: fly to New York on her actual birthday for the
Speaker 1: final callback for this, and I was like devastated. My
Speaker 1: husband kept it was so, I mean, I knew what
Speaker 1: my family and my husband were reminding me was like, hey,
Speaker 1: she's never going to remember, She's not going to know
Speaker 1: that it's even her birthday today and we're going to
Speaker 1: have a party for her on the weekend. But um,
Speaker 1: for me, it was a good reminder to be like,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for myself, which is also going to
Speaker 1: benefit her and her seeing that Mama's like out there,
Speaker 1: get going to like do something she loves and she's
Speaker 1: going to be working and all that. So, you know,
Speaker 1: tried to keep it in perspective, what a huge milestone
Speaker 1: for you on her one your birthday, to like you're
Speaker 1: doing something for yourself, like on your for your career.
Speaker 1: It felt like finally, like I mean, it had taken
Speaker 1: me an entire year to get to this place where
Speaker 1: I actually felt like I could do something for myself,
Speaker 1: which I mean, I'm sure you guys unders time leaving her. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I've I've actually been doing like little work
Speaker 1: jobs that had taken me out of town a lot.
Speaker 1: Probably like a week was the longest I had been away,
Speaker 1: and that's always so hard. But um, but yeah, but
Speaker 1: I finally felt at the one year mark like I
Speaker 1: had kind of gotten a hold of motherhood in a
Speaker 1: in a way. I mean, we're still always I don't
Speaker 1: know how you guys feel, like, do you my god?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Yeah, So did you end up having
Speaker 1: a big party last minute? It was just like a
Speaker 1: lot of family and friends and it was actually kind
Speaker 1: of chill and sweet. And we did what you said.
Speaker 1: We hired our housekeeper to come and like help with,
Speaker 1: you know, cleaning up after, like with the food and
Speaker 1: this and that, and and my parents were there and
Speaker 1: a good amount of people who don't have kids were
Speaker 1: there as well, so that was really helpful. It wasn't
Speaker 1: too hands yeah, exact exactly, so it wasn't too chaotic.
Speaker 1: We had, you know, in the house, we did we
Speaker 1: did ridiculously order like tables and chairs and balloons, and
Speaker 1: I felt like I just spent this much money on
Speaker 1: party goods for a one year birthday, But like you
Speaker 1: was pressured to do it, you just really do. But
Speaker 1: I mean I definitely do and I was not going
Speaker 1: to have one, but you don't have to. And part
Speaker 1: of it is also for for your friends and your family.
Speaker 1: It's it's partially because I was I don't know about you, guys,
Speaker 1: but I was completely under a rock for a majority
Speaker 1: of of the beginning of her life, and so it
Speaker 1: was more like, let me invite people over so they
Speaker 1: can see my daughter, and I'm going to try and
Speaker 1: force myself to be more social. And you know, it
Speaker 1: was coming out party. Yeah, coming out party. It is.
Speaker 1: You're You're definitely in a fog that first year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would say if you wear makeup at any point
Speaker 1: during the first year pediatrician visit, you get like extra points.
Speaker 1: I've never worn makeup to a pediatrician visit. My one
Speaker 1: year I wear makeup and like, take a photo. It
Speaker 1: is one year pig I am going to I mean,
Speaker 1: I will be mind alone. Dr Taylor, can you explain
Speaker 1: what a milestone regression is? Is that a thing? Oh? God,
Speaker 1: she would not be talking about it. No, no, we
Speaker 1: can talk well. So a milestone regression is um, just
Speaker 1: like it sounds. It's when you used to do something
Speaker 1: and you either don't do it anymore. You've plateaued, so
Speaker 1: you haven't a vance. And we talked about ranges and
Speaker 1: always progressing. So a regression is when you either do
Speaker 1: something and stop doing it. Interesting, So babies can do that,
Speaker 1: like they may have crawled for a week and then
Speaker 1: they don't anymore, or you can do I mean there,
Speaker 1: there's things that are definitely normal that can happen. When
Speaker 1: do that big life changes moving to New York. Um,
Speaker 1: that's when our sleep aggression hits sleep regression. Um, we're
Speaker 1: working on a new skill, like we talked about. So
Speaker 1: if you've been, if you've been you know, clapping your hands,
Speaker 1: and now you're working on waving goodbye, you may not
Speaker 1: clap your hands anymore. So definitely normal. I can make
Speaker 1: it happen having another baby. I'll do it sometimes, changing
Speaker 1: from the the baby room to the toddler room and
Speaker 1: take care something like that. Um. There and then their
Speaker 1: regressions that we worry about. So those regrestions that you
Speaker 1: talk about aren't really ones to freak out about, not
Speaker 1: at all because they're normal reactions to life environment exactly.
Speaker 1: And then what are the ones to worry about? There?
Speaker 1: Never want that with the adopt there's one that you
Speaker 1: bring to me. You bring all of them to me,
Speaker 1: and I say, you know what, you just had a baby,
Speaker 1: you just had another baby, so this baby kind of
Speaker 1: wants to go back a little bit. Or you know
Speaker 1: that this didn't get a lot of sleep, working on
Speaker 1: some language skills, working on some new motor skills. So um.
Speaker 1: And then if you say, you know this baby has
Speaker 1: been cruising for ten months, never I mean, hopefully it
Speaker 1: doesn't get that far, but I didn't progress past that.
Speaker 1: Then maybe we investigate a little more, but it's never
Speaker 1: anything to anything to worry about. Do you find that
Speaker 1: moms with their first baby m like me, text you
Speaker 1: all the time, like a thousand questions, and then their
Speaker 1: second baby comes around and it's like whatever, yes and no, okay,
Speaker 1: tell me? Um, does this ever ever end the neuroses
Speaker 1: and the anxiety? I really hear my mother saying, well,
Speaker 1: better to be safe than sorry. I'm like, oh my God,
Speaker 1: Like it is endless. I mean I know that is true.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they hopefully we've learned some stuff. Hopefully we've developed
Speaker 1: a relationship where, um, you can rely on what I
Speaker 1: say and count on what I say, and and you
Speaker 1: know me a little better with the second baby. Um,
Speaker 1: most of the questions questions from a mom with a
Speaker 1: second baby start, so the first baby did this, the
Speaker 1: second baby does this differently? Babies to each other. Yes,
Speaker 1: different twins differently. Um, they do it in a different way,
Speaker 1: they did it in in a different timetable. Is that okay?
Speaker 1: And like I said, there's a rain, so of course
Speaker 1: it's okay. It makes sense. Yeah, it totally makes sense. Um.
Speaker 1: Let's um, I want to hear about how you guys
Speaker 1: felt the first time, Like was it a big deal
Speaker 1: when your baby like first walked, because like I haven't
Speaker 1: had that yet. You will, oh yeah, I will, you
Speaker 1: will like was it a big deal? You were there
Speaker 1: or not there? Like you got it on tape or
Speaker 1: you didn't, because I'm one convinced I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be there. I wasn't there when she crawled, and my
Speaker 1: family was terrified to tell me, and I don't think
Speaker 1: I don't think they should tell you necessarily really because
Speaker 1: because the nanny stopped telling the stuff. Let me figure
Speaker 1: it out. Doesn't matter if they saw it first or
Speaker 1: you saw it first. Just let me let me. Like,
Speaker 1: my husband had a full blown meltdown because we've both
Speaker 1: were both in waitress right now. So the nanny's like,
Speaker 1: whoa like a lot of hours being logged, um, and
Speaker 1: she was in Central Park and she sent a photo
Speaker 1: with like white stuff all over his face and my
Speaker 1: husband wrote, what's that? And she said, oh, I gave
Speaker 1: him ice cream? And I thought my Now, I secretly
Speaker 1: inside really kind of liked it because I have given
Speaker 1: up a lot of firsts to my nanny. I went
Speaker 1: back to work when Albi was eight weeks old. Adam
Speaker 1: this was his first of like Adam's favorite dessert in
Speaker 1: the world is ice cream. It's his everything. And the
Speaker 1: fact that the nanny gave it to him without Adam,
Speaker 1: there was like mass pandemonium in my household. But I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, it's his first ice cream with her,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have your You're going to have your
Speaker 1: first ice cream with him, and it'll probably be like
Speaker 1: a better flavor or like whatever it is better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like you know, um, you're definitely going to capture it
Speaker 1: better because my nanny is you know, she's wonderful, but
Speaker 1: she's she's not amazing at the technological phone photography. Um
Speaker 1: So anyway, he faced his first like big miss out,
Speaker 1: Um you missed her crawling? Yeah, I did, but with walking.
Speaker 1: I literally caught it on video, which is crazy, which
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know how well my sister's
Speaker 1: My sister is really good with kids, and she she works,
Speaker 1: actually she's getting her final hours and um she has
Speaker 1: her masters in psychology and she works with kids under
Speaker 1: the age of three who are showing signs of autism
Speaker 1: possibly or behavioral issues or developmental developmental issues. So she's
Speaker 1: really good at like talking, teaching kids, like just helping
Speaker 1: assisting with their development. And so she was like holding Lucy,
Speaker 1: my daughter's Lucy, and she was holding her hand like
Speaker 1: basically like just I had a finger for her to
Speaker 1: hold and my daughter was barely holding onto her but
Speaker 1: it was just more of a security blanket. And so
Speaker 1: that was such an int I had never thought to
Speaker 1: do that. Um, I mean it was more just like here,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. But she was basically walking by herself
Speaker 1: but just holding onto her fingers. So I I grabbed
Speaker 1: the camera, my phone and I was just recording it,
Speaker 1: and eventually she just was continuing to walk alongside her
Speaker 1: and then she just like slipped her finger out of
Speaker 1: her hand, and then there was she was walking, and
Speaker 1: then she did it one other time and then she
Speaker 1: basically didn't do it again for like a week. Okay,
Speaker 1: there you go, that's normal. Car. What about Sonny. Sonny
Speaker 1: was like pushing things, like never really crawled, like I said,
Speaker 1: So it was like she was pushing around her little
Speaker 1: loud walker thing that things the most annoying songs, or
Speaker 1: she was pushing this wagon thing, and so we knew
Speaker 1: it was coming, and so I was always like phone out,
Speaker 1: ready for it. And then I got a couple of
Speaker 1: her first steps on camera. And then the next morning
Speaker 1: because I'm on the local morning news here in New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, as like a breaking news. That's
Speaker 1: so cute walking. And like the beauty of social media,
Speaker 1: I will say, because there's so much bad with like
Speaker 1: comparing and all of that stuff, I really have found
Speaker 1: that sharing a lot of those big moments, the comments
Speaker 1: at least, and who knows about all the people who
Speaker 1: aren't saying anything or whatever, but there's so much beauty
Speaker 1: in the support that you get and the cheering on
Speaker 1: and even the times when I've asked a question, like
Speaker 1: when she was teething and I was like, I am
Speaker 1: losing my mind. Tell me every teething remedy you have
Speaker 1: ever had, and it's like, in those moments, social media
Speaker 1: is a beautiful thing. You have found it to be
Speaker 1: very helpful. Yeah, yeah, um this also, have you guys
Speaker 1: had uh a milestone happened that has like brought you
Speaker 1: to tears because I I've been like, fie, he crawled,
Speaker 1: the army crawled, he did all this stuff, and like
Speaker 1: it's just been like great, like yeah, like he's doing
Speaker 1: it and totally fine. But when he got his first tooth,
Speaker 1: I sobbed, like I don't know why that is. And
Speaker 1: this is a really disgusting Hilary story, but I called
Speaker 1: my mom when he got his first tooth and I said,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm having this reaction. Like I also
Speaker 1: think it's probably just because he got his first tooth
Speaker 1: really early on, and I'm I was still a hormonal,
Speaker 1: insane person. And I think we're all going to look
Speaker 1: back at these first two years and realized we were
Speaker 1: all still insane. Too, like I still think, like I'm
Speaker 1: just like I can't believe you and I are doing
Speaker 1: a Broadway musical in this state, Like I just it's
Speaker 1: really insane. I'm so impressed with you because I told you,
Speaker 1: like one year mark for me was really when I
Speaker 1: was like ready to come out of my little rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: I hear me to look back on everything I've done,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be like I don't think I
Speaker 1: was okay. But anyway, here we are. It's for all
Speaker 1: of you guys to hear and judge, so you're welcome.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting the milestones that hit you and
Speaker 1: the ones that don't, or whether it's it comes on
Speaker 1: a certain day when you're particularly emotional, it's not the
Speaker 1: actual milestone that's with you. Like when we lowered Sunny's
Speaker 1: crib from like the high thing to like the full
Speaker 1: crib and we put her down and she sat in
Speaker 1: there and at the time she looked tiny, and it
Speaker 1: wrecked me. I was like, she looks like she's in
Speaker 1: a cage. I don't think she's happy. This isn't good.
Speaker 1: And of course she was like, so fine, it doesn't care.
Speaker 1: But it was like the things that move you and
Speaker 1: you're like back in your own bedroom, sobbing. My mom said,
Speaker 1: I called her and I was like, he just got
Speaker 1: his first twoth and I just believe it. And I
Speaker 1: stuck my finger in there, and Adam said he felt
Speaker 1: something that I put my finger in there and I
Speaker 1: felt it. He has tooth. And Mom was like, so
Speaker 1: my mother, she was like, oh, I remember when I
Speaker 1: like lost my mind when you were growing up. And
Speaker 1: I said, what what made you like? Sab? She's like,
Speaker 1: I had to exit and go to the bedroom and
Speaker 1: just cry when I saw that you had your first
Speaker 1: pup took it took a while, like can you believe that?
Speaker 1: Like she was like, that's what's marked in her brain
Speaker 1: is like her little daughter was like growing up. It
Speaker 1: must have been like changing out of a beating suit
Speaker 1: or like god knows what. But she like I saw
Speaker 1: some sort of like hair growing there. And she said
Speaker 1: she lost her mind. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like that's going to be a whole other thing we
Speaker 1: have to do. Oh God. So that's where you're at
Speaker 1: because you're in the teenage stage, which seems like a
Speaker 1: real nightmare. But I remember I don't remember crying with
Speaker 1: my daughter with Miles Sons. When I cut my son's
Speaker 1: hair for the first time because he looked like a
Speaker 1: big boy and the baby curls came off and he
Speaker 1: was over a year. He needed a haircut terribly. He
Speaker 1: looked really really need a haircut. And the first time
Speaker 1: we cut his hair, he's a pick boy. I do
Speaker 1: remember that. And I cried in the Cosey cuts her kids.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm not ready for the first haircut either.
Speaker 1: Um so uh oh. What we were talking about with
Speaker 1: people missing them like Serena Williams woo woo. She tweeted
Speaker 1: that she wasn't there for her daughter's first steps, you know,
Speaker 1: like she took her first steps and she was training
Speaker 1: and she cried and she missed it. Like I'm so
Speaker 1: scared at he's going to walk and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to see it. But all the responses to that tweet
Speaker 1: were beautiful. On there were so many people that were like,
Speaker 1: she's gonna walk again, or you were making her so proud,
Speaker 1: or wait till she sees what you were doing on
Speaker 1: the day when she took her first step, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, like do any of you know when you
Speaker 1: took your first step? Because like, I don't know. I honestly, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even. I was talking about this with my
Speaker 1: husband the other day. I was like, what when do
Speaker 1: you remember when your first memory was? Because my for
Speaker 1: sure it wasn't until I was like at least two,
Speaker 1: and then probably after that like way later. Yeah. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I have maybe one memory when I was like
Speaker 1: barely walking, but like that's it. Your parents probably remember.
Speaker 1: And I do tell people when they're worried about milestones
Speaker 1: and when people when they reached them, I said, ask
Speaker 1: your mother, ask your mother in law, when did you
Speaker 1: do that? Invariably it's going to be early or late,
Speaker 1: and it'll and and genetics being what they are, they
Speaker 1: do reflect and we have to kind of remember that
Speaker 1: we all are sitting here, and we all poop on
Speaker 1: a toilet, and we all sleep through the night, and
Speaker 1: we're going all the time. I'm like, Brian, have you
Speaker 1: ever seen an adult like aside from medical problems of
Speaker 1: some kind, Like no one's crawling to work, right, Everyone's
Speaker 1: going to get at some point we're gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: Have you guys found like any books or um apps
Speaker 1: or anything like that to be like super helpful um
Speaker 1: in this sort of arena, Like is there something in
Speaker 1: the first year of having your baby that you like
Speaker 1: couldn't live without? Like, I, Um, I really love this
Speaker 1: book called The Conscious Parent, um, which is just a
Speaker 1: wonderful reminder to me always. I think also in milestones
Speaker 1: with this compared despair thing that like, the book is
Speaker 1: very much about how the baby is here to teach
Speaker 1: me stuff and I'm not supposed to teach him stuff,
Speaker 1: and the baby is here to I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a little l a woo woo, but whatever, he's he's
Speaker 1: here to make me a better person and me take
Speaker 1: me to another plane of consciousness, so to speak. And
Speaker 1: so I try to remind myself that when I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here trying to measure up his milestones and when he's
Speaker 1: supposed to walk and when he's supposed to talk and
Speaker 1: all this stuff, is to just really let him be
Speaker 1: and that he's here to teach me when I'm what
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to talk and walk and how I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to talk and walk. Um, have you guys found anything
Speaker 1: to be super helpful in your year? Like is there
Speaker 1: an app that like when you're pregnant, there's all these
Speaker 1: apps about like this month, this is happening in this month,
Speaker 1: and that is happening. But and then you you don't
Speaker 1: get on your phone for the next year or so.
Speaker 1: Nobody really that's the recommendation is not to not google
Speaker 1: this ship. Um. I think that the breastfeeding apps are
Speaker 1: helpful because I'm gonna ask you in the first visit
Speaker 1: how many peas and poops there are, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to look at your paper or but there's an appted,
Speaker 1: but there's an app for that, and that's that's a
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, glow. I use like, yeah, when you're
Speaker 1: at the beginning, when you're really making sure that there
Speaker 1: are wet diapers and poopy diapers and because that's the
Speaker 1: way you can tell they're not dehydrated and they're eating
Speaker 1: and that things are going in and things are coming out,
Speaker 1: which I also actually still use when he's sick, like, um,
Speaker 1: if he has a cold or a cough or something like,
Speaker 1: I know it's not red alarm alert, holy shit problem area,
Speaker 1: Like if my nanny and I are like, well, he
Speaker 1: he's had you know, a lot of p diapers today
Speaker 1: and his poop is normal, and how many times because
Speaker 1: you know that it's just like a cold and coffin.
Speaker 1: We're not like dehydrated or something like that. Literally just
Speaker 1: check my phone and I deleted them all. I was
Speaker 1: just so I was like, like's off my phone, just
Speaker 1: like I don't remember the name of the apps for me,
Speaker 1: but maybe on the Block is a good one, the happiest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with the five it's great. Dr Carp. Yeah, they I
Speaker 1: used this and he has a toddler book as well.
Speaker 1: M hmm yep, oh he does use this new I
Speaker 1: I used this new like for the first four or
Speaker 1: five months of her life. And this news, so you
Speaker 1: guys know, is a crib designed by Dr Carp that's
Speaker 1: essentially like a baby nurse. The crib senses when the
Speaker 1: baby wakes up and just kind of gently shakes the baby,
Speaker 1: which mimics how the baby feels inside the womb, so
Speaker 1: that the shock after they come out to just like
Speaker 1: kind of having to sleep silently by themselves and not
Speaker 1: be comforted. Yeah, it's great. It was great, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I I also the happiest toddler on the That's what
Speaker 1: was right. Yeah, my mom, I'm the worst with that stuff,
Speaker 1: Like I literally have like you are, I feel like
Speaker 1: your child. Thank God, you're hanging I'm hanging out with honestly, Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm not chill. I mean I am way more chill now.
Speaker 1: I had so much anxiety in the beginning phases, and
Speaker 1: I also like completely had the worst, most horrible time
Speaker 1: with breastfeeding. I had to stop at five weeks with her,
Speaker 1: and so like I had just you know, eventually, I
Speaker 1: think it was partially just me being like, screw all this,
Speaker 1: I don't deal with it. I can't deal with the pressure.
Speaker 1: And I still had the anxiety, and you know, in
Speaker 1: l A called called my pediatrician all the time. I
Speaker 1: haven't bothered you too much yet, but yeah, I but
Speaker 1: I have a zillion books that I've never picked up.
Speaker 1: But my mom is good with that stuff, and she
Speaker 1: she was helpful with the happiest toddler, like the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: I think that helped me because sometimes you're dealing with
Speaker 1: this with your child and they're doing new things and
Speaker 1: you're like, I have no idea, like behavioral wise, because
Speaker 1: they don't know the difference at this age that they're
Speaker 1: doing something that they're not supposed to be doing, But
Speaker 1: how do you Sometimes sometimes they know. Yeah, but like
Speaker 1: even with like when she would get really frustrated and
Speaker 1: get upset. She she kind of went through this phase
Speaker 1: where any any little thing that went wrong, if she
Speaker 1: dropped something, or if she was pointing at something and
Speaker 1: you couldn't you know, you didn't understand what she was doing.
Speaker 1: She was just having a trouble, having trouble with communicating,
Speaker 1: and she just got really frustrated real fast. She would
Speaker 1: just start crying or yelling immediately. And so my mom
Speaker 1: read a tantrum. It wasn't a tantrum. It was just
Speaker 1: like a lot of noise and a lot of it,
Speaker 1: just like I don't know or singer and she's got
Speaker 1: I mean, she's herself. And she was like, well, Mama
Speaker 1: DoD sing all the time. She'll be in her crib
Speaker 1: and just like making sounds and singing stuff like by
Speaker 1: herself for for like a full hour before she takes
Speaker 1: her nap. She'll just yeah, but that's another thing. But
Speaker 1: but for when she couldn't communicate, my mom read somewhere
Speaker 1: that you like that was helpful for us. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it works for everybody, but you know, if
Speaker 1: she was upset, oh, you identify, I know you're feeling
Speaker 1: Lucy's feeling frustrated or you're feeling sad. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: we're feeling sad because I know you want this toy
Speaker 1: but right now you can't have it, but you feel sad.
Speaker 1: And just like acknowledging the feelings that she exactly what
Speaker 1: I tell people to do. It can interesting go down
Speaker 1: to their eye level, and so I understand you don't
Speaker 1: want to leave the park yet. You're having a really
Speaker 1: good time, but it's time to go, and it'll you'll
Speaker 1: still get the crying, but it'll probably be at a
Speaker 1: you know, seventies sixty pc, which is huge. Um, right,
Speaker 1: it's being heard versus like just really shoving down their
Speaker 1: throat what needs to happen right now, which is why
Speaker 1: she used to say when Sonny was crying, she would
Speaker 1: be like, Sonny got really angry, and Brian and I
Speaker 1: would always laugh and be like, she's assigning these full on,
Speaker 1: like adult emotions to her. And for a while we
Speaker 1: thought it was like the funniest thing in the world
Speaker 1: that she would talk about her like she was in
Speaker 1: a don't But after a while like she was slowly
Speaker 1: teaching us and now we've all caught on how important
Speaker 1: it is that like though she does have real emotions
Speaker 1: and that you should be talking to her that way,
Speaker 1: and that she responds to that so well. It's not
Speaker 1: just like, oh, she's crying, When is the baby going
Speaker 1: to stop crying? Yeah, because their babies, we think that
Speaker 1: they don't understand as much, but it is incredible how
Speaker 1: much they understand what we're saying. And if you can
Speaker 1: just like communicate with them, they actually they can't communicate
Speaker 1: back as well, but they really do understand all. Part
Speaker 1: of the language that's by reading is so important to them.
Speaker 1: And you can read your scripts. You can read oh
Speaker 1: I run lines without just doing with do with a singsong.
Speaker 1: Voys do it with a nice gentle like you're reading,
Speaker 1: you know, the best story whatever. But it can be
Speaker 1: anything and they love it. I was so worried because
Speaker 1: Adam and I were on vocal rest so much because
Speaker 1: we're Broadway singers now, and it was really hard, scary
Speaker 1: and um there were so many days where he would
Speaker 1: look at me like mom, why are you moving your
Speaker 1: face so much? And like not talking because I got
Speaker 1: really sick. It was crazy, Like oh my god, you
Speaker 1: guys Broadway, real deal, So let's talk about phases and
Speaker 1: when things are supposed to end or start or move on,
Speaker 1: because you did mention Danielle like that there are windows,
Speaker 1: which for some reason, that word feels much better to me. Um,
Speaker 1: you know than like I think about like the do date,
Speaker 1: Like I wish it was like a window. So you know, um,
Speaker 1: can you tell us like our doctors really looking at
Speaker 1: phases and when things start or end or windows, we
Speaker 1: do look at windows. So walking window, you know, it
Speaker 1: would be nine months to fifteen months, sixteen months, And
Speaker 1: like I said, if you're progressing and you're right there
Speaker 1: and you're holding onto a finger, but you just don't
Speaker 1: want to let go because that's you know, they come
Speaker 1: here a certain way, that's your temperament. So possibly they
Speaker 1: can walk, but they just they're feeling a little hesitant.
Speaker 1: Or you have the child that is really motivated to
Speaker 1: walk and they're and they're going full on. Um. So
Speaker 1: I think if if you're ever concerned, you know, we
Speaker 1: can always do evaluations and always tell your pet trip.
Speaker 1: You know, I know you said not to worry, but
Speaker 1: I am worried, So let's make me not worry. And
Speaker 1: that's always an appropriate thing to say in question to
Speaker 1: ask um. So there are there are windows and talking.
Speaker 1: You know, we want at a year maybe mama, dada
Speaker 1: or the dog's name or that that which they say
Speaker 1: for everything when they're pointing at stuff. We more want
Speaker 1: them to understand you. So if you say where's the
Speaker 1: cat or where's the dog, you know that's also language.
Speaker 1: Sign language is also language. UM. So there are different
Speaker 1: ways to communicate UM in their different ranges. UM. And
Speaker 1: so they're like not saying words again, guys using Katie's
Speaker 1: group benefit um. If he's like not saying words, but
Speaker 1: you're like, where's my baby and he points to himself
Speaker 1: or like where's my understanding? He can hear, he understands
Speaker 1: what you're saying. He knows he's the baby. Just don't
Speaker 1: feel like saying it. You also can't want it too bad.
Speaker 1: I always say. I'm always like, don't make them perform
Speaker 1: like she will do it when she wants to, like
Speaker 1: she knows, Like I always feel like she has all
Speaker 1: these words and she's looking at us, like gosh, my
Speaker 1: cousin's kids twins, they didn't speak until they were almost
Speaker 1: like three years old, and now they are just they
Speaker 1: are chatty and just I mean it just we were
Speaker 1: nervous about it. But I think they speaking to each
Speaker 1: other they like, I think in their own sort of
Speaker 1: like twins sort of communication way. They were kind of
Speaker 1: just communicating with each other in a lot of sounds,
Speaker 1: but not Yeah, they weren't speaking and we were all
Speaker 1: so nervous, and now they're they're like they're completely from
Speaker 1: the Yeah, they chat all the time, so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: lose my mind. Oh yeah, see this was so cure.
Speaker 1: That's out of the range. But that's far but it's
Speaker 1: still okay. Yeah, but like it's still okay. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what's you know. It's just very like this is such
Speaker 1: an everyday lesson and just I mean for me personally,
Speaker 1: just the anxiety of it, you know, like saving it
Speaker 1: up's gonna say seven words at eighteen months? Um, can
Speaker 1: we go around and say if there's any advice that
Speaker 1: you would have for I know, I know it's high pressure.
Speaker 1: It can be multiple things of just like whatever you
Speaker 1: would want to say, either about milestones or about anything
Speaker 1: that you wish you had known in the first year
Speaker 1: and change of your kid's life, or you as a doctor,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I guess for me, I would just remind
Speaker 1: parents that it gets easier. It does, it does. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's still, of course, I'm sure it's always hard. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you can attest to that. But for me, the
Speaker 1: first the first year was for sure. I mean, and
Speaker 1: talk to me in like two years and we'll see
Speaker 1: how I feel. But if it was really really challenging,
Speaker 1: but you feel like it's easier for you now than
Speaker 1: it was when she was within that year mark, that's
Speaker 1: great to hear. Now that she can like sort of
Speaker 1: communicate and she can walk, and she sleeps through the
Speaker 1: night and you know, and she's relying on the regular
Speaker 1: food and she's had she has teeth now, so I
Speaker 1: know that she mostly can like chew everything up and um,
Speaker 1: and she's had her fair share of colds, which scared
Speaker 1: the crap out of me. And now I don't get
Speaker 1: quite as freaked out. So I guess it's just like
Speaker 1: I just have a little less anxiety and I'm not
Speaker 1: so freaked out about you know, germs and this, and
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still definitely like have my share of
Speaker 1: no but I think my my Duela, who was on
Speaker 1: the UM was a guest on one of the episodes,
Speaker 1: Rebecca Benetti. She says, your mom muscle has got stronger,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, It's just a muscle
Speaker 1: that you didn't have before. And in the first year
Speaker 1: it's really tested and you do a lot of reps.
Speaker 1: You have a better handle on it all, and you
Speaker 1: just yeah, so it just gets just trust that it
Speaker 1: gets easier and you can do this. And we're all
Speaker 1: on our own path, but we all can support each
Speaker 1: other and and understand the challenges and the and the
Speaker 1: winds as well. Yeah, Jamie, that was beautiful. She is
Speaker 1: going to a beautiful and inside out everybody. Come check
Speaker 1: her out and waitress the musical on Broadway. She's playing
Speaker 1: Jenna as well as Katie Loves. I feel like to
Speaker 1: go back to the phases thing we always say, now
Speaker 1: everything is a phase, the good stuff and the bad stuff,
Speaker 1: like this too shall pass, like because undoubtedly there's like
Speaker 1: a new habit, like now she when she is done eating.
Speaker 1: We've taught her. I tried to teach her a bunch
Speaker 1: of sign language words. The only one that's really caught
Speaker 1: on is all that on the podcast can see like
Speaker 1: she does this. It's kind of like jazz hands. It's
Speaker 1: sort of a form of like she kind of starts
Speaker 1: clapping for herself, like all done. But right before that
Speaker 1: because when I realized she's getting close to it, I
Speaker 1: have to move fast because she starts throwing the food
Speaker 1: off the tray and it's like everything, We'll just she's done,
Speaker 1: get it off the tray. I'm done. So that's when
Speaker 1: I'm like all done and food too. Throws food like unbelievable.
Speaker 1: But we we look at each other and we kind
Speaker 1: of laugh and we're like, in two weeks from now,
Speaker 1: this won't be a thing. Everything that's a thing was
Speaker 1: only a thing so briefly, and then it's either we
Speaker 1: taught her not to do something, but in most cases
Speaker 1: they just sort of grow or phase out of it
Speaker 1: and then you're onto the next thing, you know, Like
Speaker 1: when she was teething. We're in sort of a weird
Speaker 1: break from teething. I feel like there's probably more coming
Speaker 1: too soon. Great, but for a while, it was like
Speaker 1: she wakes up every night at the same exact time
Speaker 1: and like screams or head off, and it was like,
Speaker 1: when is this phase is gonna be over? And so
Speaker 1: I think that in some ways, right now, while I'm
Speaker 1: with all adults, I can say like, that's helped to
Speaker 1: call me a little bit. Oh my god. I think
Speaker 1: that's huge to remember, like you're this ship show. You're
Speaker 1: only in until there's either like a break and a
Speaker 1: lapse and a joy and then there's like another news
Speaker 1: ship show. Yes, so it's sort of just like hang
Speaker 1: on like whatever is happening, like hang on like the
Speaker 1: next like good thing will come. That's great. It reminds
Speaker 1: me so much of my labor because I was like
Speaker 1: my mantra was when a contraction would come, would say,
Speaker 1: I would say, this is only temporary. This is only temporary,
Speaker 1: over and over again until it would pass, and then
Speaker 1: I was like, check, please, where is the epidural thing? Much? Um,
Speaker 1: that's hugely helpful, Jamie and a good or both of
Speaker 1: these are very good reminders to me and Danielle Um.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the non pediatrician thing and say, take
Speaker 1: care of yourself. A lot of snapping for that. We're
Speaker 1: makeup to your point. Now, take care, take care of
Speaker 1: your relationships. Oh god, snaps. Lord is pressuring me to
Speaker 1: go away with him and leave the baby. Go away
Speaker 1: with your husband and leave the baby. You gotta do it.
Speaker 1: It's huge you gotta do it because because it passes,
Speaker 1: as you said, and when it's gone, you're still yourself.
Speaker 1: So you you and you're you still have hopefully have
Speaker 1: your relationship, which hopefully is still there. Um. But I
Speaker 1: think it's really important because I do see the kind
Speaker 1: of the good, the bad, and the ugly in the
Speaker 1: office of stuff when when mom's put too much into
Speaker 1: their children. And obviously you can't put too much, but
Speaker 1: you can forget about yourself, and it really is important
Speaker 1: to take care of yourself. I just got it's so hard,
Speaker 1: so hard, it is. It's so are to like make
Speaker 1: the time for yourself to go to a workout class,
Speaker 1: never even heard of it, take a shower. If they're
Speaker 1: gonna be crying when you get back where they won't
Speaker 1: be crying, great, and you'll be guilt of like if
Speaker 1: you have a free moment or whatever, you're like, well,
Speaker 1: I should I should just be with my baby. Like
Speaker 1: it's so like I mean a date with Adam, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: like like especially like on this Broadway schedule, it's like
Speaker 1: we get one day off a week, so I make
Speaker 1: sure that the date consists of a dam and I
Speaker 1: putting the baby to bed. But like, I mean, it's like,
Speaker 1: but again, this is a phase, phase, and at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I'll be going to grow up
Speaker 1: and you'll be you and Adam will have this This
Speaker 1: could be a whole other episode because my am my, um.
Speaker 1: I think someone said my. I love my sister in law.
Speaker 1: We're very, very close and she's a incredible mother. But
Speaker 1: they have this joke about her husband. It's like he's
Speaker 1: always like, well, they're gonna leave and then you're gonna
Speaker 1: be It's just gonna be me and you, honey. And
Speaker 1: she's like, oh my god, Like what a reality. You're like,
Speaker 1: oh crap, there. I mean, if we do our jobs
Speaker 1: and we do a great job, these babies are going
Speaker 1: to leave and they're going to be independent. And these
Speaker 1: milestones of school or getting a job or moving out
Speaker 1: to the goal and these real big milestones, these life
Speaker 1: ones that they will remember, will be them growing up
Speaker 1: and growing out of us. And then and then he
Speaker 1: wouldn't go. My children went to sleep away camp this
Speaker 1: summer two weeks and three weeks and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're still here. I should probably do something. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this has been so wildly helpful. That was a wonderful
Speaker 1: tip of advice Danielle. Thank you, um, Danielle and Jamie
Speaker 1: and Nicolette. I cannot thank you for your wise words
Speaker 1: and making us laugh because really that's also very important. UM.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much you guys for tuning into Katie's
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