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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the last co host standing. You're looking at him.

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Speaker 1: February second, two thousand and twenty two. Tuesdays with Maury

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Speaker 1: That's what we've become here, solo, don't leave, don't exit

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Speaker 5: Oh definitely, man, you know, And and that's why I

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Speaker 5: not be in the ring for two and a half years.

428
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Speaker 5: Let me have elbow surgery, let me have bone fusion surgery.

429
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Speaker 5: These aren't on the to do list, you know. These

430
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Speaker 5: are things that manifested in my life, in my career.

431
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Speaker 5: These are some of the struggles that I faced. But

432
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Speaker 5: you know, hurdles are put there to jump over and overcome, man,

433
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Speaker 5: So these obstacles I've overcome them. I feel great at

434
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Speaker 5: the age of thirty three. I might have missed like

435
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Speaker 5: two great years in my prime, but luckily we're still

436
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Speaker 5: in our prime.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're new to the Keith Uman experience, he's

438
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: always a hell of an interview. Love speaking about himself

439
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: in third person, not afraid to play the flute if

440
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: you've see in those videos, and uh with a formerly

441
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: the long ponytail. He's an eclectic, confident and interesting guy.

442
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: And you know he's again he's heard the knockings of

443
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: of can he still be that same guy? So I

444
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: a long way of me saying I love this matchup,

445
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,479
Speaker 1: but I do understand some of the customer you know,

446
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: hardcore fans come back saying, is this really a pay

447
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: per view fight? Really? Really? And at the elevated price

448
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: of seventy four ninety five? Look, I think we got

449
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Speaker 1: You know, I work for a company that does a

450
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Speaker 1: great job in pay per views, but I think overall,

451
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: in boxing, we have too many boxing pay per views,

452
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: and some of them are overpriced, and maybe this falls

453
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: into both of those categories of you know, is it

454
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Speaker 1: really one and is it too expensive? Probably negative responses

455
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: would be adequate for both. But is it a great matchup?

456
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 1: Hell yeah? And is it important for the future? Without question?

457
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: Thurman believes a win here puts him right back in

458
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Speaker 1: line to fight a champion, and if you're you know,

459
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Speaker 1: in defense of him picking Burial, he says, look, I

460
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: was presented a list of names, and there were a

461
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Speaker 1: bunch of them that you know, were known, but they

462
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: had four or five losses, and he's like, what does

463
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Speaker 1: that give me? He claims he picked Burios because he

464
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: has just one loss and he looked very good in

465
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Speaker 1: that one loss, and is you know, his brand is

466
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Speaker 1: moving up and he's young, and you know, in that regard,

467
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Speaker 1: I respect that because if you do look at the

468
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Speaker 1: lay of the land. Eryl Spence, who has two of

469
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: the four welter White belts, he's fighting your Dennis Ugas

470
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: this spring, who has the WBA belt in a unification,

471
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: a big fight that matters. He can't, you know, Thurman

472
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: can't find either of those guys. And Terrence Crawford was

473
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: the WBO belt is a free agent and is suing

474
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: top rank for racism. And you know, I thought Terrence Crawford,

475
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 1: you know, the day after that contract ended would announce

476
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Speaker 1: he's signing with the PBC. But you know, we don't

477
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: know well to see what happens, and he's not fighting

478
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Speaker 1: at the moment. And then of course Pakya's retired. Trump

479
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: Porter just retired, so Danny Garcia wants to move up

480
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: to junior middleway. So this is the fight that Keith

481
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: was offered and the best one of the mix, and

482
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: he took it. But he with a win here, he

483
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: could make some very big fights. I mean him against

484
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: Spence's business. That's that's a great fight. And Keith, it's

485
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: like what he said to me about, you know, not

486
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Speaker 1: taking damage over the last five years for the most part,

487
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Speaker 1: and how much that could help him feel rejuvenated. All that.

488
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's true, that's true. You also have to

489
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Speaker 1: have the timing back, and when he came back against

490
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Speaker 1: Jose Acido Lopez, the timing was off and something about

491
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: him was off. He looked, you know, he had dropped

492
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: Lopez early, but then got got got cornered and wrote

493
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: and put against the ropes and hurt and rushed on.

494
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: You know, if you're Burios, that's that's the angle you

495
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: want to try to play, without question, and that's Barios's

496
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: skill set. But you know, if Thurman is still one

497
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: of the most well rounded, skilled fighters in this game

498
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: when he's at his best, the version of him that

499
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: lost to Manny Pacio. Yes, Pakia was forty, but like Paccio,

500
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: damn near you know, reeled off a Fighter of the

501
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Speaker 1: Year campaign that year by beating Adrian Burner and then

502
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Speaker 1: beating Thurman. I mean, this is still a dangerous Manny

503
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: Pacia and Thurman is such a perfect mix of boxing

504
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: and punching. His nickname one time is about you know,

505
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: the power of his punches that it takes one to

506
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: floor people. And that was a better indication of who

507
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: he was when he was climbing the ladder and he

508
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: was more of a knockout guy. He became more of

509
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: a boxer on the title level. And some people think

510
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: for you know, out of out of not wanting to trade,

511
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: but I think it was more to in a lot

512
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: of ways around out his game and in these super close,

513
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: amazing title fights that sometimes you know, or more often

514
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: than not, can be the difference the guy who can

515
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: stand in there and trade big and take it, But

516
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: who is the better boxer doing the better work throughout?

517
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: That's what Thurman did against Sean Porter, what he did

518
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: against Dandy Garcia. So I do have questions though about

519
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: who Thurman has been since the second half of that

520
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: Danny Garcia fight. And you add in layoffs, you add

521
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: in injuries, it's a hell of a storyline just to

522
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: see what he still looks like, because he's got a

523
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: great resume, his big wins still hold up, but he's

524
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: the forgotten man in this division. In the Spence and

525
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: Bud Crawford story that followed right after Thurman's departure, and

526
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: now you got Boots Ennis on the rise. You know,

527
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: Team darn Ennis claims they reached out to Thurman's camp

528
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: to try to fight, and Thurman responded with, I don't

529
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Speaker 1: know who that guy is, which is a you know,

530
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: of course, a nice veteran trick to try to pull,

531
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 1: but has some true meaning underneath of why he wouldn't

532
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: want that fight right now. But it's always going to

533
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: be a fun and great walterweight division. It's going to

534
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: be a better one. And I said Walter Waight there

535
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: because that's how Keith Thurman pronounces it. When Thurman's in

536
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: the mix, and when he's potentially you know, as a

537
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: chance to be a beat. Imagine him as a B

538
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: side against all these guys. I need to see Keith

539
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: Thurman against Crawford, against Spence, against who guys, against all

540
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: these guys. So it all goes down on Saturday. We'll

541
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: break the matchup down a little bit closer on Friday

542
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: in terms of who wins all that. But uh, I

543
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: got one more piece of sound from Thurman on sort

544
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: of why he picked Barrios and you know the fight

545
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 1: he expects to see in the ring this weekend.

546
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Speaker 5: I mean, he's an ex world champion and you know,

547
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 5: anything that I was about to do off a two

548
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 5: and a half year layoff, I thought it.

549
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: Was gonna be, you know, critique one way or another.

550
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 5: I think I was gonna suffer criticism no matter what

551
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 5: move I was gonna make. And there weren't big names

552
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 5: being offered. You know, the other fighters were respectable fighters,

553
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 5: but they got like four losses on their record.

554
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: So what does that do for Tea Thurman? You know?

555
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 5: So what I liked about Mario Barrios is that he

556
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 5: had the best record. You know, it was kind of

557
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 5: simple and in comparison to the other options that I

558
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 5: was getting, I just don't think that it. I always

559
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 5: want to make the best fight I can make at

560
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 5: a certain time in my career. Back in twenty nineteen,

561
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 5: I fought Jose See de Lopez. That was after a

562
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 5: twenty two month layoff, right a twenty two month layoff,

563
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 5: and then right after that I brought one of the

564
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 5: most exciting fights against Manny Pakiaw And that's what I

565
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 5: want to do this year. I want to take this

566
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Speaker 5: fight and then I want to fight one of these

567
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 5: great champions.

568
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: Uh. Thurman went on in great detail about what went

569
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: wrong against pak yall the lesson he learned on how

570
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: he can, you know, not make that same mistake again,

571
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: and how he can use that lesson against Barrios is interesting.

572
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: So check that out Morning YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat. Also,

573
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: we look back in hindsight, we say, hey, hey, hey Thurman,

574
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: the flood to Floyd duck You looking back, I mean, hey,

575
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: duck you straight up. We'll get into that more. So

576
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: check that out. MMA fans are welcome as well, Thank

577
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: you very much. Let's go to topic number three and

578
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: that's a batch of quick hitters here, which is our

579
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: lazy man special. I love quick hitters. Great category. Right,

580
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: Paul Day has announced he's gonna have one more fight.

581
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Speaker 6: You know.

582
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: I saw a tweet from Ariel Hawane that's that's that's apropos.

583
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: It hit home. It's like to see these guys who

584
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: were on top and made their name back when us

585
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: in the media we're starting to make our name and

586
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: kind of came up with these guys. Yeah, it's tough

587
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: to see that when they start retiring, you know, one

588
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: after another. And to see Paul Daily, who's been in

589
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: so many great wars, thirty eight years old, you just

590
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: one of those guys. It feels like he's been fighting

591
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: forever and you just sort of like assume he's gonna

592
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: fight forever. And I mean, for all we know, he

593
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: may continue in a bare knuckle capacity, but he says

594
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: this is his last fight. And here's his quote in

595
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: the interview with Ariel Hajwani in the May Hour HOMASI

596
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: was going to be my last fight, but BELT wanted

597
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: to put it in America, and I don't think the

598
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 1: UK at the time were allowing shows people to travel

599
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: over for productions to produce a show over there. So yeah,

600
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: that was going to be my last fight. Then they

601
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: offered Jason Jackson with title implications, so I took that fight.

602
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: It didn't go my way, So I owe my fans,

603
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: my family to have this last fight over here in

604
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: the UK. Belt would be very smart to try to

605
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Speaker 1: get as big of an action name as they can

606
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: to put. I mean, wouldn't it be great great if

607
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: good old Nick Diaz, you know who's who's uh, wouldn't

608
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: it be great if UFC is just like, Okay, we

609
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: already said publicly we don't think Nick should keep fighting

610
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: and whatever, you're gone, you know, and then and then

611
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, Nick gets paid one more time to fight.

612
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: You know, people said PC is not hypocritical. You said

613
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: you didn't want to see him anymore. You didn't like

614
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: him in there against Lalla No, because that's still being

615
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: presented as elite level fighting and Nick, excuse me, did

616
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: not come into that fight. Ready. You know, we're finding

617
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: out afterwards like he was felt like he was forced

618
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: to fight. He wasn't like that. That's scary. I don't

619
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: want to see that. But could I what I could

620
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: I see a Paul Daily send off in an alternate

621
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: world in which Nick was able to be a free

622
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: agent and put in one more great camp. It took

623
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: it seriously and wanted something like this. It's hard when

624
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: you got that flavor, for this kind of old guy flavor,

625
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: it's hard to lose them. I'm trying trying to trying

626
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: to correct that. I'm trying to control that vice in

627
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: my life, like I had to control fast food or

628
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: in gas station urges, you know, with the uh with

629
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: the liver situation. But I want to see Paul Daily

630
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: be able to go off on his own terms with

631
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: a bang uh. Semtex has given us a lot. He's

632
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: been a fun guy to watch across the board. I mean,

633
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: that's Paul Daily versus Nick Das one of the greatest

634
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: action fights of all time, probably the best fight in

635
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: Strike Force history. And you know, uh, I think Paul

636
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: Daily got a raw deal in his in hindsight and

637
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: his UFC exit and never getting another chance. But he

638
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: he built a very nice coda, you know, or not coda,

639
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: but really really second half second chapter of his career

640
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Speaker 1: in Belaitories mates. He was involved in some fun vives

641
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: of all some awful fights. Remember that MVP dance, remember

642
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: that one? Wow? All right? Also in movement in the

643
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: MMA space, Jeremy Stevens officially signs with PFL. I believe

644
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: is the news here and to try to get you

645
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more fired up here the featherweight banger.

646
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: He's called out a big fish, Anthony Pettis. So I

647
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: believe this is a interview Stevens did on the MMA

648
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: Hour where there a Hawani and he said, I've seen

649
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: Pettis in the UFC. We were hanging shaking hands. But honestly, bro,

650
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: he looked fat and out of shape. His cheeks looked

651
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: like cheeseburgers. That boy looks like he's getting paid too much.

652
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: So I would love to run that back with Anthony.

653
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Last time I turned him into a wrestler, he just

654
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: wanted to wrestle me the whole time. We were in

655
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: a different place in space at the time. I think

656
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: now we could bring a lot more violence and action

657
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: packed and I'm going to be in better shape than

658
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: that boy, trust me. He's eating too good end quote. Wow,

659
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: that's aggressive. I like it. Obviously. Anthony Pettis did not

660
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: have the best debut year by any means in PF

661
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: fell you know, you had to think of him as

662
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: potentially a favorite to win that tournament coming in and

663
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: he got yeah, yeah, yeah, great, you know, yeah, what

664
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: does he have left? He's back for this year. You

665
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: can do a lot worse than making these guys against

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00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: each other again. Yeah, let's do that. Jeremy Stevens went

667
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: on to talk about his contract with Ariel and uh,

668
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: and he said, at the end of the day, you know,

669
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Uh talked with the UFC, decided on PFL after you know,

670
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: getting released essentially, and uh, now he's going to do

671
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: his best to quote knock everybody the fuck out and

672
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: get a million dollars. And you know, for a gun

673
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: slinger like him, that should be the attitude he's going

674
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: to bring to the PFL. And and uh, will he

675
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: move up and enter the Walter Wait Tournament. I mean,

676
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's jumping over jumping over a lot

677
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 1: of room there, but it'll be fun to see him.

678
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Jeremy Stevens is he got a lot of

679
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: mileage on him. Let's never overlook that. And this is

680
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: a legitimate, scary losing streak, which which really leaves questions.

681
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: But he is the kind of guy who if he

682
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: does take a full step down in match making like Triller,

683
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: Triad BKFC Lane, he probably could have some success there.

684
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: So uh, he's he's making a bold move and in

685
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: some ways by saying, okay, you f C run is over,

686
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: but I still want to swing big in the PFL.

687
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: And they just signed with ESPN for a new deal

688
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: and uh, we'll see what happens. Very interesting report on

689
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: a Alexander Gustafson heavyweight return that it's gonna come against

690
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: Ben Rothwell reported by front Kick and the targeted date

691
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: is May twenty First, I got weird mixed feelings about

692
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: this alex Gustafson heavyweight sojourn that he's on this little

693
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: uh you know, we retired after that. I mean, he

694
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: looked really bad in the John Jones rematch and I

695
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: a decent high hopes given the questions surrounding John at

696
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: that time, that that could have been another sort of

697
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: fun action fight, and it was, you know, weird tactical

698
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: fight for a couple of rounds as John controlled from

699
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: distance and then he just completely demolished him. And since then,

700
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean he got hammered and Anthony Smith submitted him

701
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: and then he retired and the comeback fight against Ricio

702
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: ver Doom was was quick. It was a first round

703
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: submission loss. So that was July twenty twenty. It's been

704
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: a long time. I don't have high hopes. He's still

705
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: so young though that it's hard. He's thirty five. I mean,

706
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: it's not so young, but he's young enough where Okay,

707
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: this is probably a little bit left there. But at

708
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: heavyweight you could you could make a mistake and get

709
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: uh it hurt really bad. So this is interesting. This

710
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: isn't actually an interesting matchup in some ways too. Rothwells

711
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: he's at the end of it too, but he's he's

712
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: a difficult out still in a lot of different ways.

713
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: And he's hair. He's a Harry bastard, you know. Shout

714
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 1: out to Ben Rothwell. All right, ah, and how about

715
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: this fight for the same night, May twenty first, UFC

716
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: targeting this one. It would be a pandam weight out

717
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: and it would have legitimate potential title considerations. As Holly

718
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: Holm at forty, despite all those talking teases about maybe

719
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: her wanting to get back into the boxing mix, considering

720
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: right in her weight class is going to be the

721
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: biggest women's boxing match of all time on paper with

722
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano on April thirtieth. Home's gonna

723
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: stay at UFC Banda Wade and fight Kaitlyn v Era.

724
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: Now that it's a big fight for this division, and

725
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: it's an interesting potential style one with the striking on

726
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: the feet, and it's one I believe Holly Holme can win.

727
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing we don't know we got

728
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: we gotta we need Paynia Newnis two to happen. It's

729
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: not gonna happen soon in the you know forrow we

730
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: know they're gonna do the Ultimate Fighter season. But like

731
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: it's like we need to know whether was this just

732
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: one really bad night at the office, or whether Newness

733
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: comes back and wins the rematch or not. Is this

734
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: a new era for Juliana Pena where she's now elite?

735
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: Has she figured out how to find the best of

736
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: her Some questions have to be answered. But if Paynia

737
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: holds onto that title, out of the question that Home

738
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: wins that seriously at forty And it's like starting at

739
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: such a unique and incredible career. And I don't mean

740
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: to be some like super fan here because I'm not,

741
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: but I've obviously come to really respect how Holly Holm

742
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: has despite age, has really stayed at the same level.

743
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: So it's weird she stayed at the same level of contention.

744
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: She's always right there ranked one or two and two

745
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: way classes it seems. But you know, she's rebounded so

746
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: well from defeats and keeps rounding out her game and

747
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: not taking a major slip. She doesn't have the type

748
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: of defeats where you're like, even though she's got a

749
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: lot of defeats, right, you forget that a record's fourteen

750
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: and five overall, and she's already has such a unique

751
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: resume in that, like she's living so much on that

752
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: Rousey win still. But then whenever she surfaces back up

753
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: to fight somebody who could be on their way to

754
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: title contention, she shows you that she's the one who's

755
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: still in title contention. And I mean she dominated me

756
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: and Anderson and then she beats Pennington in the rematch

757
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: and Irene Aldanas, so she's she's on a great run

758
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: right now, and it's there's possibility here that she fights

759
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: for gold against seriously and with a man with the

760
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: questions about Amanda you never know. I mean, I don't

761
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: think would they straight up doing Amanda Holly rematch. I mean,

762
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: there's a left star power in it. And if Holly

763
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: wins this one, that would be three in a row.

764
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: And if Nunis wins back the title at thirty five,

765
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: then despite how dominant that that first round loss was

766
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: for Holly and it was nunas in twenty nineteen first

767
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: round head kick Koh put it on her. And but

768
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: it's a different Newnis now. So a lot of title

769
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: contention here, aspiration and positioning with this because Kaitlyn Vere

770
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: in the mix as well. Of course, Also Paulo Coast

771
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: does a late addition on the menu from BC. I

772
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: mentioned he wants Marvin Vittoria. He wants him real bad,

773
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: Coasta even saying I'm not even interested in fighting in

774
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: general anymore if it's not Vittori. So here's the quote

775
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: that Costa told ag Fight. Is that the website here

776
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: ag Fight mispronouncing that uh Coast is saying, I just

777
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: said to let Dana White know, I'll fight Vittori now

778
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: if it's the only fight that interests me. No one

779
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: else interests me unless it's for the title. But I'm

780
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: no fool. I'm not stupid to consider a title fight now.

781
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: I want to fight him. He's the only visit viable

782
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: guy that interests me. I don't respect him. I want

783
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: to end his life. He's an a hole, a fool.

784
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: He had this win over me and thinks he's the man.

785
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: But he's an a hole, a child. We see he's

786
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: a goof. He can't even wear shorts the right way.

787
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: There's a photo of him with his shorts backwards, and

788
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: he still thinks he's the man. But I'll fight him again.

789
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm angry. I want to hurt him. These are these

790
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: are wild quotes or not? Not? Not not surprising For one,

791
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: Paulo Costa, who is is a wild dude and his

792
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: I think his career is at a very interesting point.

793
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: So Paulo Costa loses that fight against Victory last time out,

794
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: but it was so close and it was all action,

795
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: and Coasta had these huge swings of momentum in his favor.

796
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: But I think he's screwed up, meaning I think Coast

797
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: is never gonna be the guy we thought he could

798
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: be entering the out of Soignia fight. It's almost as if,

799
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: like how that fell apart and the wine excuse afterwards

800
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: and all that. It's like all that either changed him

801
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: for the worst for good and how I perceive this,

802
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: or he never was you know, who we thought he

803
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: could be. And he won a lot of these fights

804
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: on just being a freak athlete and a finisher and

805
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: an aggressive guy. But the skills still there, but man,

806
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: the decisions to just bang in the cage. I think

807
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: this is who he is now. And could I be

808
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: entertained by Victoria Remetch Absolutely, And you know they're both

809
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: still highly ranked in the top ten, so it's not

810
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, out of the realm for either of them

811
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: here to get a big win and then get a

812
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: big fight after this that could lead to a title shot.

813
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: But interesting, interesting to say the least fank you charming

814
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: in all right, So that wraps up our topics. Oh,

815
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: one more, one more for you quick. Floyd Mayweather weird

816
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: announcement starting the Money Team Racing Team t m RT.

817
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: He's calling it and uh he's going to join with

818
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: sponsor pit Viper and Floyd's team is gonna make their

819
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: NASCAR debut at the Daytona five hundred UH in February

820
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: with Kaz Grayla driving the number fifty car Tony Yuriy Junior.

821
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: The the uh in the headset there, that's news I

822
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: didn't see coming, all right. But Floyd U making like

823
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: a profound move into that space that you know, to

824
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: make a run at something here at the highest level.

825
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: It's something to watch, you know. I don't I don't

826
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: watch the left turning cars these days. But I don't know.

827
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what the uh with the motivation and

828
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: influence there. Maybe Floyd's a huge fan, but I didn't

829
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: realize that. But uh, interesting to watch moving forward, all right.

830
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: So uh. We had a fill in fun segment last

831
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Speaker 1: week when Chuck Mindenhall was in the in the chair

832
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: and we needed something to do with Luke out. We

833
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: called the Truth or Trivia. But this week the producers say, no, Bce,

834
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: we got more time to fill. Luke's still living it up,

835
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: you know down there in the other America. Why don't

836
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: we spin it back on you? Why don't we put

837
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: you in the hot seat to answer the trivia questions

838
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: with the potential with the wrong answer having to get

839
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Speaker 1: personal and share something maybe you didn't plan on sharing

840
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: coming in, maybe something that's not beneficial to the futures

841
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: of your career and well being to share publicly. But

842
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: this show so batshit crazy to begin with, why not

843
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: continue gambling a roll in that dice? We call this

844
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: truth or trivia? All right. I have to shout out

845
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: William the Donk for helping the team out apparently on

846
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: the trivia side of this. Mikey Morms, the producer on this.

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00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: Let me bring in the fine director producer. No, he's

848
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: not the next Jay Aaron, he's the first Gaff Gaff

849
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: Are you there? Gaffney Pierre and the on the ones

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00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: and twos there well, full on drug rug siding right there.

851
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, we do have the code today, so

852
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 6: you might as well just throw that up.

853
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: Now, right, Oh did I not hit up the corner?

854
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: No, you didn't hit at the top.

855
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: All right, let's hit now. Let's remind all the folks

856
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,440
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857
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859
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: Gaff's wearing it right there. I've been wearing this stuff

860
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: all It's my life wearing this stuff shut out. By

861
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: the way, to all the great donks out there that

862
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: have supported us by buying merch. I've been told for

863
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: the fourth time, fourth time, Gaff, fourth time, drug rugs

864
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: are sold out, and they had to go back to Wow.

865
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: That's on Brandon then to go back to the well

866
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: and try to produce some more because it's what the

867
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: people want. So Geff, in honor of the weird items

868
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: that continue to be created, birthed and sold. And I'm

869
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: including the Hawaiian shirt with BC's face on it, the

870
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: underwear with Luke right up there on your old uh

871
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: right in there, you know, in your old brundle. I

872
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: didn't think this shit would work, drug rugs included, but

873
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: it has so. Our our great team, our merch Maven

874
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: r J. Dunkle Maker said, Hey, put it out to

875
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: the people. We were in the comments in the live

876
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: chap below. We want to hear what big picture dream

877
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: item you know, is it MK factory, town of them a

878
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: rash guards? What is it that you need to see

879
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: on our website? Geff, How weird is this going to get?

880
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: Could get weird?

881
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 6: But I don't know, man. A lot of the merch

882
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 6: has been really good. Like even my mom wears the Christmas.

883
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: One with you and Brown on it, Share Luke on it. Yeah,

884
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: she loves that one. She wears that pretty often.

885
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: So I'm all right, shout out to Mama pee rocking

886
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: that I love that. Okay, that's great. So Morningcombat Dot

887
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Store and drop in. As I mentioned the comments and

888
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: in live chat of this YouTube video, your suggestions, folks,

889
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: are something that you want to see. Okay, we'll see

890
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: if we can make that happen. There, gaff, It's truth

891
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: or trivia time. Five trivia questions. Each one I get

892
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: wrong that escalating difficulty. It will also escalate in how

893
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: personal you're gonna ask of me. So I'll give you

894
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: the floor, my friend.

895
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 6: All right, PC, So we have five questions. I'm gonna

896
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 6: hit you with the first one. I'll read it to

897
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 6: you and I'll say your thirty seconds starts.

898
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: Now.

899
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 6: After that start thirty seconds, you can start. If you

900
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 6: don't give your final answer by the end of that

901
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 6: thirty seconds, we have another question for you.

902
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: So you're ready.

903
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm right right. Here's have no idea? What's coming?

904
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, BC.

905
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 6: Who is the first lightweight to get a finish in

906
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 6: the UFC lightweight title fight. You were hint it was

907
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 6: a submission. Your time starts now.

908
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: First lightweight title fight? Finish? Who was the guy who

909
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: got the finish?

910
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: You got twenty seconds?

911
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: All right?

912
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: Was it?

913
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: Pat Militante?

914
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: I am sorry? BC? That is wrong? You still have

915
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: ten seconds?

916
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 6: Uh bjpenn Wow, with one second left to go?

917
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: You got it.

918
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: That count even though I got it wrong. Round No,

919
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: that counts.

920
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 6: That counts. I'll you just have to get it within

921
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 6: the thirty seconds. So that that was a great guest.

922
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: Good job. You see you made it past the person.

923
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: Stay out of my personal life gap. I'm the I'm

924
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: the ringleader in this circuit.

925
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: All right, you're This is the second quest ues.

926
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 6: Three fighters are tied with five wins in a calendar year.

927
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 6: Kevin Holland did it in twenty twenty. Who are the

928
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 6: other two fighters with five wins inside a calendar year?

929
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 6: Your time starts now?

930
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: Does do all five have to come in the UFC?

931
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: Yes? Thirty seconds?

932
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean because Cynthia Calvio had four a few year

933
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: at twenty seventeen. But I think the fifth one was

934
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: or maybe it was the fourth one came out of

935
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: the UFC. Okay, so let's take her out of the mix.

936
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: Ten seconds.

937
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: Kyle Boy Seroni and and Jim Miller. Yeah, you're gonna remind.

938
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: Me when I hear this, prapy.

939
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 6: The answer is Neil Magni and Roger Werta.

940
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know the whare to. I did know

941
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: the magazine. I should have guessed him just by his

942
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: willingness to constantly stay that busy. But uh, okay, that's

943
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: a good question. I'll take that ol all.

944
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 6: Right, all right, so BC, this is the personal question

945
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 6: that we're going to ask.

946
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 2: Are you ready?

947
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: Yes?

948
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 6: What causes outside of m K are you most passionate about?

949
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: Oh?

950
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't. I don't normally get asked a serious

951
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: side like this. I'm very passionate. Well, I don't support

952
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: any animal causes, but I'm very passionate for my love

953
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: of animals, and I probably should look into, uh some

954
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: of that. I have. You know, as you've seen at

955
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: times on this show. Three cats, two dogs, and you

956
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: know they're my app I mean, they're my absolute life.

957
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: But causes in life. Look, today's special day, gaff. Today

958
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: my son's Isaac and Christopher turned fourteen.

959
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: Oh happy birthday, Yeah, thank.

960
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: You, and and and it's it's it's always a big

961
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: birthday when you've gone through so much to get there.

962
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: And either way, what my son I just had major

963
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: surgery on his right arm yesterday and is recovering and

964
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: hanging tough, uh to try to amend the challenges of

965
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: terrible palsy on him. And and and and and uh

966
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: it's been a while ride. My kids were born in

967
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: four and a half months premature, and they were both

968
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: in different hospitals and different states for almost a year

969
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: and had six surgeries each the first year. Just you know,

970
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: I could go on and on, but there were multiple

971
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: I've been in that that room, right, I've been in

972
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: that room a lot where they give you the really

973
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: bad news and uh and UHU through that journey, you know,

974
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: really love causes and supporting you know, Saint Jude's Children's Hospital. Uh,

975
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: we had such uh you know that charity. We had

976
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: such love and support at Boston's Children's Hospital when we

977
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: spent a long time there. And uh, you know any

978
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: cause like that career uh to celebrate or help parents,

979
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, because it's like you know, Luke had that

980
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: great quote in the in the doc where he's like,

981
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, doesn't happen this way from right, And you know,

982
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: my kids had such crazy journey to get here in

983
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: multiple medical miracles and surviving surgeries that they shouldn't have

984
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: in stink body parts on the inside, growing back when

985
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: it's when it's physically impossible. That like, I don't know

986
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: how to explain beyond you know, it doesn't happen this

987
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: way for most because I was there on the front

988
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: lines during my time and it didn't happen that way

989
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. It happened horribly, so uh,

990
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of bad endings unfortunately in

991
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: that game. And uh, I definitely am a big time

992
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: supporter and uh you know pediatric Uh you know, my

993
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: son had that great wish granted through the Kids Wish

994
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: Network and supporting you know, companies like that that do

995
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: great to help families, because that's that's among the most

996
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: stressful walks you can go down when you have no

997
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: power and something's that small, you know what I mean,

998
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: you have no power of protection. That's a that's a

999
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: you'll end up in therapy with me at the.

1000
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: End of the day for that, right, that's understandable. BC.

1001
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 6: But to hear that you went through all that and

1002
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 6: you're still here and you're fighting, that's awesome.

1003
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: Man, You're blessed. You're truly blessed. I am.

1004
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: My black kids are fourteen. They're amazing. So today's as

1005
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: every Broundhog's day for them are to to Oh wait,

1006
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: it's amazing. It's a blessing every birthday, you realize quickly, Gaff,

1007
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: And every birth is a miracle after you go through

1008
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: stuff like that.

1009
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1010
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 6: All right, let's keep this truth or trivia train rolling.

1011
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 6: We got the third trivia question. Are you ready?

1012
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: Let's do it all right?

1013
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: Third question?

1014
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 6: Can you name the only UFC event to have one

1015
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 6: hundred percent finish rate?

1016
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like this. I feel like this is

1017
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: relatively recent, like between twenty fifteen and twenty twenty, relatively recent?

1018
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: Am I off on that at least?

1019
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 2: Gaff?

1020
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're yeah, you're wrong. You're definitely wrong, ely.

1021
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: Okay, So it's it's a lot earlier, all right. I

1022
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: can't ask you if it was a fight night or

1023
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: a pay per view, right, it was a fight night,

1024
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: so a correct answer would be the city or the

1025
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: number right for the main event, I know the fight

1026
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: card that you're talking about, I do not remember the

1027
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: elements around it. I'll take the loss. What was the answer,

1028
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: It's a great question.

1029
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 6: The answer is UFC Fight Night fifty five rock Hold

1030
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 6: versus Bisbeeing in Australia.

1031
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: Yes, there was. Yes, I remember that card distinctly and

1032
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: that fight, which is what made the Bisping upset in

1033
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: the rematch even grander, an even wilder amazing moment because

1034
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: of how much Ruckle kicked the shit out of him

1035
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: and that first fight, and that card which was all

1036
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: finishes all the time. What were some of the other

1037
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: fights offhand on that card? Yeah, we got a Ross

1038
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: Pearson sighting.

1039
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 6: Though Ally Quinto was on the card, Robert Whitaker, Sam

1040
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 6: Alvi was on the card.

1041
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: All right, all right, so here is your personal question.

1042
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 6: Oh boy, if you could go back and change one

1043
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 6: decision in your life, what.

1044
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: Would that be? Okay? So it's really hard to pinpoint

1045
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: any I mean unless unless a major bad decision, uh,

1046
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, like had a a like hamstrung the rest

1047
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: of your life. Right, you know, if you got arrested

1048
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: at twenty one for something stupid and it you know,

1049
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: embarrassed you and got in the way, Okay, I want

1050
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: you want to take that back. But a lot of

1051
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: the other l's in life, like you learn so much

1052
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: from them. It's ridiculous, you know what I mean. So

1053
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you look back on so many things, Geff,

1054
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: you know, really bad breakup, but a time you got

1055
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: fired for being an a hole, you know, or like,

1056
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: there's so many key moments and usually self destructive ls,

1057
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, unforced errors that you have to endure because

1058
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: you're just an asshole and you know you know better,

1059
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: but you don't know better. That the ripple effect, you know.

1060
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: That's why it's always weird watching you know, Back to

1061
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: the Future, any of those type of movies that play

1062
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: with the space time continuum and have you questioning. I'm

1063
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: watching a show right now called Ordinary Joe.

1064
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

1065
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: It's like an NBC type show, and it's it's it's okay,

1066
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: it's pretty good, but it's that same kind of thing

1067
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: where like it shows one he made one decision early

1068
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: in his life, and then it shows three different paths

1069
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: of how his life could have been because of that.

1070
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'd like to believe I don't have, of course,

1071
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: any like major negative that it's like, Okay, yeah, I

1072
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: wish I didn't do that, but dropping out of college

1073
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: making that decision was a decision, Gaff that really opened

1074
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: up a long road to get to where I am today,

1075
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: a long and you know, I always like to consider

1076
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: my success akin to like a journeyman. NBA played like

1077
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: a John Starks who come you know, he went to

1078
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: a major college but it wasn't a big recruit and

1079
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, backdoor pro basketball and he's doing day contracts

1080
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: and he's you know, playing in other countries you never

1081
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: heard of. And then eventually, dude, he's on the NBA

1082
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: All Star team, you know, and it's like holy shit,

1083
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: like he kind of he always did have what it takes,

1084
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: but he took the long road to get there. And Geff,

1085
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: you could argue that I'm defined who I am today.

1086
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: My success is my style. Why people love or hate

1087
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: me is defined by my factory town soaked story of like,

1088
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: you know, going down the I don't want to say

1089
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: the path less travel the path more often traveled of

1090
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: just f it. Right, I'm an underachieved. I'm an underachieved

1091
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: for about ten years. Right, let's just you know, like

1092
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: and you know that's fueled by certain depression and heartbreaks,

1093
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: and you look back on your life a lot differently

1094
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: when you get older. But if I hadn't dropped out

1095
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: of college when I did, and at the time, look,

1096
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: I was commuting, so you know, I wasn't living the

1097
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: dream experience. I was paying my own way through school,

1098
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: which my parents put me in that about to teach responsibility.

1099
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: And I'm working multiple jobs, a couple of them are

1100
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: in the sports writing business, which is already what I

1101
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: want to do. And I essentially dropped out of college

1102
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: to then not long after go full time in the

1103
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: writing business. So there was a lot of me justifying

1104
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: that decision at the time to do that. But the

1105
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: reality is I hit, you know, a rock bottom point

1106
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: in my motivation and gave up. And because of that decision,

1107
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: it took a long, long, long road to get here.

1108
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: I could have achieved in theory a lot earlier and

1109
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: done this or done that, But you know, I don't

1110
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: know if I could have gaffed because it took it

1111
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: took a lot of pain and regret and and to

1112
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: come back and make this run that I'm on now.

1113
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to overly glorify it. But it's like,

1114
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, I know the value of what I have

1115
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: now compared to compared to you know, other times. You know,

1116
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: like I I know the blood that was spilled for this.

1117
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: So I don't think I want to change anything. Yeah, okay,

1118
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: maybe you can say, BC, your choice not to wear

1119
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: socks and DOCS six will end up being your most regrettable.

1120
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, do I regret the risen situation? You're damn right.

1121
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: I regret that luckily it didn't you know, fall into

1122
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: somewhere it didn't need to be, and suddenly the show's over.

1123
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 6: You know.

1124
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: But I do think one thing, though, Geff, tell me

1125
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong on this. You do look back at

1126
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: like some of your high school relationships and just what

1127
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: a shitty person and boyfriend you were. Like, you know,

1128
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: you're just sort of like, man, what an a hole?

1129
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: You know, Like those are sometimes like the biggest moments

1130
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: of like, man, I could have been such a nicer person.

1131
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 4: You know.

1132
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that wholeheartedly. BC. I definitely feel

1133
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 2: you on that point.

1134
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 6: But for me, it was more of a college thing

1135
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 6: when I had to get all those demons out, I

1136
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 6: was relatively I didn't fuck a lot in high school basically,

1137
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 6: so yeah.

1138
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: It just got real, okay, Jeff, Yeah.

1139
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had one girlfriend in high school, so it was.

1140
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, what college did you? Did you rock?

1141
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: Temple University?

1142
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: In Temple University, Yeah, home of John Cheney wants to

1143
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: kill John Caliperry that that same temple. Yes, yeah, where

1144
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: the hoops, I mean I know where the hoops seems

1145
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: any good? When you were there?

1146
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had Deontay Christmas when we were there, he

1147
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 6: was doing pretty good. We actually lost to a s U.

1148
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 6: Uh and my friend at the time was going to

1149
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 6: a SU, so.

1150
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: We had like a real battle going on.

1151
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, big big on the basketball team.

1152
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: I really liked the uh the Aaron McKee Eddie Jones team.

1153
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: That was a good ass Temple team in the nineties.

1154
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1155
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: That also when they had Mark Macon a few years

1156
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: before that. That that was prime John Cheney. That was

1157
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: a good ass team. But uh, all right, that's I

1158
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: learned something every day here, Geff, I didn't know you what.

1159
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: To tell you.

1160
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 6: Let's keep it rolling, all right. Here is the next question.

1161
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 6: Which former UFC champions brother made him his debut and

1162
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 6: only UFC fight at the oddly named UFC thirty seven

1163
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 6: and a half.

1164
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: Your time starts now.

1165
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you were setting me up for Rashad Evans'

1166
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: brother Lance, who fought on that tough season. Right, So

1167
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: the brother made his debut at thirty seven and a

1168
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: half and that's his only UFC fight, all right. It

1169
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: always surprises me this question because sometimes I'll forget that

1170
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: I knew that one guy had a brother, and then

1171
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: you're like, oh shit, that's that guy's brother. And this

1172
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: is certainly that situation. Is it Matt Hughes's brother?

1173
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I thought you were gonna get it right too. No,

1174
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, BC, that is not the answer.

1175
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: Does he even have a brother that fought? Did I

1176
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: just make that up in my own head.

1177
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 6: There, I'm not.

1178
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he has a brother.

1179
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 6: But the answer is Matt Sarah his brother Nick Sarah.

1180
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: Oh you said Matt, I thought you had it.

1181
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: Damn, I just forgot Matt Sarah had a brother that

1182
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: ever fought too. It's a great again, a very good question.

1183
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: It's one of those under the radar there. I No,

1184
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that shit. Yeah, very very good job.

1185
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: I guess we go back to the personal well.

1186
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, all right, here we go, and.

1187
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 6: The question is what event in your life has shaped

1188
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 6: you the most as a person and how did it do?

1189
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: So I would say, without question, okay, outside, the event

1190
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: that shaped me the most was was sort of like

1191
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: find a like age twenty five, Like had this wild

1192
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: like sort of spiritual reawakening, sort of like okay, stop

1193
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: going down this really dark path in life, and oh crap,

1194
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: like Jesus Christ, wow, Like I've I've experienced love for

1195
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: the first time, and that had a profound, profound change

1196
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: on me, not ending up like a lot of bad

1197
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: stories in my hometown, but when my kids went through that,

1198
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: the craziness of a year in the hospital and then

1199
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: a second year in and out of the hospital, you

1200
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: just never know, you know, day to day if things

1201
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: are going to turn for the worst. And that changed

1202
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: me in a million ways, right, And I think there's

1203
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: some you know, negative things that that changed me that

1204
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm still dealing with today, even though my kids are

1205
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: thriving and doing great. But for my career, like that's

1206
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: the turning point, Like I you know, I had been

1207
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: working at ESPN before they were born, but you know,

1208
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't really going anywhere. I was I was kind

1209
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: of happy to be there. I was, you know, frustrated,

1210
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: but I was like I didn't understand. I thought I

1211
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: figured out how to work as hard as you can.

1212
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that there's like levels to not just hustle,

1213
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: but like hunger. Right, there's level like even fake hustle,

1214
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: but like there's levels to like passion hunger. And I

1215
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: never would have been able to get through the years

1216
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: that came after that, when even though I'm working at

1217
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: ESPN and I'm on TV sometimes and I'm doing all

1218
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: these things and recognized as a national voice, I can't

1219
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm making so little as an editor there that I

1220
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: cannot afford to pay the heat and the water, and

1221
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: I have like borrow money from my church, like you know,

1222
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: I've been eligible for the food paint. Like I went

1223
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: through some stuff there that if I didn't see my

1224
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: kids like fight for their life with such passion as infants,

1225
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: like just fight to survive. That'll you know, when you

1226
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: come out of that, you know, relatively unscathed, and you

1227
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: survive it, you can't help but be changed from that,

1228
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: like suddenly you know anything's possible, like and suddenly like

1229
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: like you know, we have no idea what we're capable

1230
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: of mentally, physically, whatever, Like we have no frickin idea,

1231
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just that enough that that that

1232
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: change in thinking, that change in foundational thinking opened up

1233
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: the door for me to to to to go for

1234
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: it and make more myself. But again, that fuel was

1235
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: needed to get through those moments that a lot of

1236
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: people in this industry get to where it's just sort

1237
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: of like, I don't think there's money in this in

1238
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: the end, Like I don't think all this kid, like

1239
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: I love this so much, but like I can't get over,

1240
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, and and uh and you know, if it's

1241
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: meant to be and you don't stop, you will get over.

1242
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: But uh, damn, dude, I couldn't have been I couldn't

1243
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: have been here, you know. I mean, if none of

1244
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: that happened, I probably would have been happy, you know,

1245
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: being an editor for as long as they would have me.

1246
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: And then maybe one day I get laid off and

1247
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: then I go back and work at a newspapers. I'm like,

1248
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, like the guy was probably on that road.

1249
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: That's fine. Maybe I would have quit it all and

1250
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: sold insurance, and again that's fine, But dude, I I

1251
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: came out of that going these guys are gonna go

1252
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: through this just to just to be my son, just

1253
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: to live another day. What would happen if I stopped

1254
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: stopping myself from going for you know, what would happen

1255
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: if I got out of the way of myself?

1256
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: Gath?

1257
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing it now in documentaries one through six?

1258
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: What the hell happened? All right? Thank you, Thank you

1259
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: very much.

1260
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 6: Now you fought tooth and nail to get here, BC,

1261
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 6: and we're all proud of you.

1262
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: Thank you, And believe me, I know I'm shaping my

1263
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: own great narrative here. And there's a lot of people watching,

1264
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: going I don't believe. I bet he's an asshole. Oh yeah,

1265
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: I've kind of now, dude.

1266
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 6: Just yeah, everybody's an asshole every once in a while.

1267
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 6: All right, Final question, BC, Final question.

1268
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1269
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 6: Name the four UFC fighters that are in the thirty

1270
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 6: twenty club having thirty or more UFC fights with twenty

1271
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 6: or more of those being wins.

1272
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: That's a great question. So you need thirty or more fights,

1273
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 1: twenty or more wins. Okay, Jim Milton, time starts now, Yes,

1274
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: that's one. Donald Cowboys Seroni.

1275
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: That's two.

1276
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: Thirty UFC fights are twenty or more wins.

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Speaker 4: RDA fifteen not on the list, Matt Hughes not on

1278
01:04:55,080 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 4: the list, Michael Bisping And I'm sorry.

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01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 6: See that is the end of your time.

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01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: Damn. I felt I thought I was just gonna rifle

1281
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: them off one after another. Is it a ver doom?

1282
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: Who am I missing here?

1283
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 6: You're missing both Andrea Arlovski and Dammi and.

1284
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Speaker 1: Maya are not only are they in the category of

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Speaker 1: the names I was trying to pull there, like the

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Speaker 1: face of that category. I should have I should have

1287
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Speaker 1: got no seriously, like those guys. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's

1288
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 1: a great question. Well I'm I'm humbled by how good

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01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: this trivia is. In fact, you know, I think Mikey

1290
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: was mad at me when I text him like, is

1291
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: this trivia gonna be worth it? Is gonna be any good? Right?

1292
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: Is it gonna challenge me? And then he was just

1293
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: sort of like, you know, I'll I'll end you if

1294
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: you really want me to trivia. Yeah, shout out to

1295
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: the team for those were both gettable. Yet it hurts

1296
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: that I didn't get them, so that that's well done, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, kudos does. Thank you. And here is your personal question. BC.

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Speaker 6: Name one thing about Luke that you hate that he's

1299
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 6: most right about.

1300
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: Well, I thought it was one thing that you really

1301
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: hate Luke that you don't say a lot, because I

1302
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: have a great Listen, all right, one thing that I

1303
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: hate most about Luke but he's also right about.

1304
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1305
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard because, like, in general, what do

1306
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: I hate most? Like, I hate Luke's arrogance and unshakable

1307
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: confidence on certain topics that I'm like, I know, you

1308
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: don't know that shit. But the thing is, he ends

1309
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: up being right a lot in the end, Okay, Like, yeah,

1310
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: I mean he does. He does. He ends up being

1311
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: like the things that he's cautiously fearful of. Like one

1312
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: thing I really don't like about him is, you know,

1313
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: like when you're at an air when you're at the

1314
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: airport and it's about to be boarding time, but those

1315
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: that travel know just because it's like about to be

1316
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: boarding time doesn't mean they're calling you anytime soon, right,

1317
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: Like there's a gap in there, and there's a system,

1318
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: and you know, especially if it's but calling by group

1319
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: number and you know your group number, you know exactly

1320
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: how long it's take and Luke's just like, oh no, dude,

1321
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: we gotta go get get everything. We gotta go, we

1322
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: gotta it's about that time. It's about that time, like

1323
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: and it's just this like military fearful mindset. He's like,

1324
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: gott to be there at the schedule time, you know what,

1325
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: Luke about that, bro, But not that like the other

1326
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: stuff that he's like life, fearful about, incautious in the

1327
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: right ways. Yeah, I hate how he liked dad. He

1328
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: dads me a little, actually dads me a lot. And

1329
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: uh it's odd that he actually looks like my dad

1330
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: now and that they kind of reminded me of each other.

1331
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: But uh, maybe there's some weird Freudian nonsense in that.

1332
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: But uh, for sure, you know he's his fears tend

1333
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: to be proven true in a lot of ways. So uh,

1334
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: I respect who Luke Thomas is a man. He's a

1335
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: ridiculous man. Like he's a walking contrast, you know it,

1336
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: walking contraceptive. Yeah, probably some weird way. I mean, he's

1337
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: a weird though, let's be honest, right, And and he

1338
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: thinks he's way above us in real life, CAF. You

1339
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Way above this.

1340
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 2: You want to know a fun fact. Yes, he doesn't

1341
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 2: follow me or each.

1342
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say, he's never called me

1343
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: by my first name and doesn't know what it is,

1344
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: because that's normally you know that funny moment in Doc

1345
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: five when I'm like, you know, Luke doesn't even know

1346
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: these guys Tim's name, and then Luke's like, no, like

1347
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: Luke doesn't know these people's names. I'm not kidding, Like

1348
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: this is like, this is this is this is a

1349
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,480
Speaker 1: real thing. He has no care for those around.

1350
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 6: Him, but I respect it. You know, he holds he

1351
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 6: holds tight to his values and he's not gonna literal me.

1352
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: That's the thing. And things that that I hate about

1353
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: him or that pisses me off the most, again, he's

1354
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: so cemented down that like this is what I believe.

1355
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to change that. It's almost like in

1356
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: a Dana White way, have to go, okay, respect, I

1357
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: kind of respect the stubbornness in the commitment there. All right,

1358
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: all right, there you go, yeah, well done, but no,

1359
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 1: Luke's gonna hey Luke's Luke would not only played a

1360
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: huge part you could say gaff and Doc six, meaning

1361
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 1: he played his part finally, he seems really happy about

1362
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: the about to come back here for him. So what

1363
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: do you expect to see out of him? What are

1364
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 1: you hoping to see?

1365
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 6: I'm I'm looking to see him just get deeper into

1366
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 6: these segments that we're doing. Like High Court was so

1367
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 6: much fun. Just shooting that was hilarious.

1368
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: Just the ideas that could come out of him from

1369
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: it and.

1370
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 6: And you together, Like, I know there's some unreleased stuff

1371
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 6: that I won't mention right now, but we still have

1372
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 6: on hold and uh some some content like that.

1373
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: I some content like that.

1374
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm always trying to get more Jay Aaron in our docks,

1375
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: but I don't think people want that, don't you know

1376
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, I mean,

1377
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: Jake does such a great job scoring these docs that

1378
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: we don't need Jay Aaron playing you know, guitar on

1379
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: them at all?

1380
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 6: Probably yeah, not at all, maybe like one vocal at

1381
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 6: the end, but like, don't give him an instrument.

1382
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Luke, I mean, he it's not like he

1383
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: doesn't take l's I mean, he comically takes us.

1384
01:09:58,840 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 2: But he he.

1385
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: The things he's really convinced about, well, I mean, I'm

1386
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: not going to talk about his own soul. You know,

1387
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: he's in his health. I mean, he's pretty wrong on

1388
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: a lot of those topics. But you know whatever, we

1389
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: love Luke. Let's gaff. Thank you you did great. That

1390
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: was truth or trivia BC style. So that's either you know,

1391
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: the future or the end. Yeah, the future or the end. Gaft.

1392
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: The people will have to decide. All right, one more

1393
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: segment for you. A thing that we threw out there

1394
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 1: to fill time on Wednesdays when BC is alone, is

1395
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: BC's top ten list. And I'm proud about this one thing.

1396
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: And I know, I know this is an MMA dominant audience.

1397
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: I know that for the most part, you guys are like, oh,

1398
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: how do we fast forward through the MMA part? Well,

1399
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: Jake Paul now too, Okay, I get it. You pro

1400
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: progate did they say pro wrestling? I get it. You're

1401
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: here for serious Luke Thomas hot takes. Okay, But I'm

1402
01:10:55,320 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: proud in it coincided perfectly with twenty twenty want being

1403
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: a big year for the sport of boxing. I'm proud

1404
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: at how many people were like, you know, I hate

1405
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: that sport, but you really made me kind of care

1406
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: about this fight coming up, and I tuned in and dude,

1407
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: it was awesome, Like where do I get more of

1408
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: this drug?

1409
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 2: You know?

1410
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 1: And like that and that's great. And in what usually

1411
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: puts those mini fires out when you have friends, when

1412
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: you're a boxing guy and you're addicted, and you're your

1413
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: friends that you're just trying to get Oh, come on,

1414
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: just try this is like even when they taste it

1415
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: and they like it, then next week there's like some

1416
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: horrible decision or the best one fight the best or

1417
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, boxing is boxing, and then they're like, oh,

1418
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: I didn't sign up for this bullshit. I signed up

1419
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: for that really good fight, you know. And they're like,

1420
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 1: I could see the best fight the best or face

1421
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 1: the best in every sport right now. You know what's

1422
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: wrong with boxing? There's a lot wrong with boxing. It's

1423
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: also a lot that's great about boxing. So I'm prideful

1424
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: that some of you on the MMA only side have

1425
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: have opened your eyes a bit and a lot of

1426
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: people have said the same thing over DMS of And

1427
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: this is a very self master ber to segment here.

1428
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: Don't don't overlook that as this whole show, this episode

1429
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: has been has BC are what do I do next?

1430
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: I just loved that title fight you made me watch,

1431
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: and now I kind of want to watch more of

1432
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: like the fights I missed? What are some fights? What

1433
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: are you know? Give me the fights right now that

1434
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: are either considered the best or would be a lot

1435
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: of fun to help me continue figuring out if this

1436
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: is a lane I want to go down, all right?

1437
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: So my top ten today is easy looking back, you know,

1438
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: since two thousand, the last twenty issu years, looking back

1439
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: on the last twenty ish years in the modern years,

1440
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: what is a fight list? What are the top ten

1441
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: boxing fights? BC recommends to non knowing or half knowing

1442
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: or not even you know whatever at all. MMA fans

1443
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: just sort of take a bite out of boxing and

1444
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: see if it is for them. Is this my top

1445
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: ten fights the last twenty one and a half years, well,

1446
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: not twenty two, not necessarily it mirrors that list a lot,

1447
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: but it's just what has been the biggest fights, mixed

1448
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: with which ones have just captured or you know, the

1449
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: the fighter fight of the year type consideration mixed with

1450
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, getting that flavor right, I remember that feeling

1451
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: I had in the weird orange pull over at Adasanya

1452
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 1: Gastolom And you know, UFC two thirty six in Atlanta

1453
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: that you know, I'm hooked on a feeling. I want

1454
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: you to feel the way that this drug made me feel.

1455
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: You can only have you only could have happened in

1456
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: the arena in Atlanta that night. Maybe I should just

1457
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: maybe I should start a comic con of people that

1458
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: were in the arena that night and we can really

1459
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: just you know, make out with each other. But I want,

1460
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: I want you to I want you to feel it too.

1461
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: In boxing. See sorry, my voice is doing the doing

1462
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: the low you know, to try to make a dramatic pickup.

1463
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: And if that's picking up in your ear hole while

1464
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,919
Speaker 1: you're running errands, you're not too happy. But quick honorable

1465
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: mention because you're gonna look at this list and say,

1466
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: how do you not talk about this?

1467
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

1468
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, here it is Beast's top ten quick honorable mention

1469
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 1: The twenty thirteen Marcos Madonna Adrian Broner brawl that that

1470
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: aired on Showtime in one of boxing's best years in

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,839
Speaker 1: recent memory. Don't overlook this one. This was boxing Twitter's

1472
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: biggest win of all time because ab Adrian Bruner was

1473
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: calling himself the next Floyd and was so flamboyant that

1474
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: people just they wanted to see him get served, and

1475
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: Marcos Maidonna turned out to be the perfect foil in

1476
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: San Antonio and dropped him twice early. But then Brunner

1477
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: didn't go away and figured out after trying to quit

1478
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: midway through by following that he might be able to

1479
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: dig in and fight. And that was a great forgotten fight.

1480
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: And obviously the Israel of Asquez Raphael Marquez trilogy, the

1481
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: third one coming in two thousand and eight, it could

1482
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: be in the top five of anybody's best list of

1483
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: the last twenty years. Luke and I went deep on

1484
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: these three fights. It's a four fight series, but it's

1485
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 1: the trilogy first that really matters for the morning Combat

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Speaker 1: Pandemic Showtime classics. I think you can still find on

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Speaker 1: YouTube right now. So always a great trilogy, brutal shit.

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Speaker 1: But in some ways it's like they were almost too

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Speaker 1: perfect for each other, Like there's so little contrast between them,

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Speaker 1: like style or anything else that it's like it's it's

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01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: a really great taste, but it's a lot of that

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Speaker 1: taste and it's classic though, And if you're talking about

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01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: sort of off the beaten path fights, two thousand and

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Speaker 1: six had this French War between Mayhar Mantchaport and Sam

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01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: saks Chichiwal. Yeah, that's a mouthful. It became the fighter,

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Speaker 1: the fight of the year globally, and in part because

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Speaker 1: formerly ESPN Dan Rayfield really pushed it on a high

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Speaker 1: level to get people to take notice. It's just a savage,

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Speaker 1: savage twelve round war just to south posit in France

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Speaker 1: and they're just, I mean, it's just it's insane. It's

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Speaker 1: really insane. So check that out. Also in the top

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Speaker 1: ten BC fights, I was their list. Forgot about this one.

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01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: It's got to be mentioned. The first Chocolatito Srisa Cat

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01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: sore Rung, the side fight, Madison Square Garden Comaine to

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01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: Triple G versus Danny Jacobs. Bloody Chocolatito was the poffer

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01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: pound King coming in in that perfect window. Floyd had

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01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: gone away, glitch Go had lost, andre Ward had just retired.

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01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: There was an opening there. Chuck Latito filled it on

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01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 1: the back end of his career and then this was

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Speaker 1: a razy war. So check that shut out.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I love Shane Moseley versus Oscar de la Hoya one

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Speaker 1: from two thousand, one of my favorite fights of all time,

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Speaker 1: high speed chess at its finest. All right, here we

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Speaker 1: go ten fights for an MMA fan to crossover. You

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01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: must see boxing wise to get a little taste of

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Speaker 1: what we do here on this side. Number ten. It

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Speaker 1: happened in two thousand and eight in the welterweight division.

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Speaker 1: Miguel Coto Antonio Margarito Part one. They were on a

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01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: collision course to fight each other for a while and

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01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: this was really banging the drum to be like, you know,

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01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: Coodo's a star, but this is like hardcore fight fans

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01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: dream at the same time. Margarito from Mexico, and he's

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01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: just like the he's the bad guy in the movie.

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: He's just a motherfucker, you know what I mean, And

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01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: he loves being that guy. But he'll take all the

1527
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: punishment you got. You have no idea how he can

1528
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: make weight in this weight class and just doesn't stop coming.

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01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: And Coto's the unbeaten star and he's and he's a

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01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: great boxer, but you know, going to the body, going

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01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: to the liver with the left hook. This is like

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01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: when Codo used to go after it and Puerto Rico, Mexico.

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01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it had everything right and then the fight

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01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: was unbelievable, and Codo dominated the first half. But you're

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Speaker 1: watching the it's like you're watching the Titanic slowly sink.

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01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, crap, Margarito's like he's still coming, Like

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01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: he's still coming. Is he gonna break the will eventually?

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01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: And eventually he does. And it's a great, all time

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01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: great fight. But of course it's stained to a large

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01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 1: degree by the fact that Antonio Margharito, you know, not

1541
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: too long after against Shane Mosley in that knockout loss,

1542
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: was caught in the locker room beforehands with the plaster

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: of Paris, with the loaded wraps, with you know, with

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01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: the cement in his hands. And then you look back

1545
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: at Margharito's run to that point, you know, the Carman

1546
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: Centron fight and the punishment he took against Paul Williams,

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01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 1: which was amazing war and you're like, man, you have

1548
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 1: loaded gloves in those two. And then you're like, oh,

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01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 1: the Codo beating he I mean, Codo's face afterwards is

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01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a car wreck. I mean, it's

1551
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, that rivalry between them. Because of this, it

1552
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: fueled so perfectly into that rematch, and it was Codo

1553
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: win a massive square garden in twenty eleven. I was

1554
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,839
Speaker 1: in the area. That was incredible. It was just a scene.

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01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 1: But you know, Margarito was a little washy by then.

1556
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: But this fight, if you can understand with the probability

1557
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: of the loaded gloves for Margarito, which which it does

1558
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 1: change the way you watch it, it really does. But it's

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01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: a great fight with a lot of that energy in

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Speaker 1: the building in Las Vegas, of like nation versus Nation,

1561
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: Man versus Nan. You know, I mean, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: good shit. It's good shit, all right. Number nine is

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01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: a is a classic middleweight championship out that feels like

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01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: it could have come out of the nineteen forties. It

1565
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: happened in two thousand and seven, and it's the ghost

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Speaker 1: Kelly Pavlick in part one of his two fight series

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Speaker 1: against Jermaine Taylor. Taylor was a middleway champion of the world.

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01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: You know, he had fought Bernard Hopkins twice and and

1569
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: it was really damn good, and he was well rounded,

1570
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: and he hadn't yet it hadn't yet fallen apart for him.

1571
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: And when it fell apart, it was it was crazy.

1572
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: But he was still the guy. And Kelly Pavlock is

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01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: this white dude with with with no hairline from Youngstown, PA.

1574
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: And and he's you know, he's mma factory town tough

1575
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: like he's he's factory there's no question. I mean, he's hard,

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01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: scrabble as shit and he can punch. But as you're

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Speaker 1: watching him, each time he's taking another step up, you're like, Okay,

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01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: it's cool, but like he's going to get flat and

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01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: at the highest level, like you know, like you have

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01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: sometimes with the white guy, you have that sort of

1581
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 1: built in like, I ain't that good, right, And uh,

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Speaker 1: this was the fight that you're probably gonna find out

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01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: that he ain't that good because he came in with

1584
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: so much fanfare and he got to this point and

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01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: you know, the fight before for Kelly Pavock, he was

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01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: in in a war and I mean he took away

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01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: Edison Miranda and he near it was Collor. Paviock was

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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: nearly the Fight of the Year during Fighter of the

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Speaker 1: Year during the stretch. But he he's in fights, man,

1590
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: he gets hit. I mean, he's fighting. He's a fighter.

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Speaker 1: And Taylor gave it to Pavlick early and dropped him,

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01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh the fight's over. I've seen this

1593
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: and Steve Smoker had one of the all time great

1594
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 1: knights as a referee, a fight friendly referee, a fighter action,

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01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: fight friendly. He was like, go ahead, you know, he

1596
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: lets to keep going. He's in there in the right situations.

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01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: And Pavlick turns that corner. I believe this was in

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01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: Atlantic City and the crowd was going ape shit, and

1599
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: when Pavlick rallies to finish him late, it's just one

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01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: of those like swings in momentum so perfectly painted that

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01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like an old time movie. It's

1602
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: like an old classic fight and the roar from the

1603
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: audience and the oh god, he is for real, you

1604
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, holy shit, this kid. It's

1605
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 1: one of those moments you know, catches you off guard.

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01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: Number eight, you know, one of the all time great

1607
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: heavyweight slug fests of all time heavyweight boxing title on

1608
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: the line, and it was this weird fight in two

1609
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: thousand and three that wasn't supposed to happen. It was

1610
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: Lennox Lewis, the last fight of his pro career, and

1611
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 1: he was gonna I got I got dead wrong for this.

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01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: When I referenced this a couple weeks ago. Was not

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01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson, who was the guy he was supposed to

1614
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: be fighting somebody else who You're like, Okay, Lynx Lewis

1615
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: is gonna blow that guy away. And then that guy

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01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: falls out and Vitelli Clitchko comes in at the last minute.

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01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: And this is before Vitali Klitschko had permanently cemented his

1618
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame all time great resume, and he had

1619
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: been a champion before and had but that loss he

1620
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: had to Chris Bird when people thought he quit because

1621
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: of an injury to his shoulder, and people were like, oh,

1622
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: you know, when it going gets tough against a non puncher,

1623
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: but a great fighter in Chris Burd, but a non puncher,

1624
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna quit. By the way, they would find out

1625
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 1: in the medical exam like years later when it went

1626
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: public that like he was that close to his like

1627
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,919
Speaker 1: shoulder permanently falling off and having to probably be amputated

1628
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: like he was, like it was one of the most

1629
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: disastrous physical injuries inside the ring, and so but Tali

1630
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: Klitschko had like something to prove, only he's like crazy

1631
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: mayor of Kiev like he is today saying, I'll go

1632
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,799
Speaker 1: to the front lines of the row against the Russians

1633
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: if I have to, Like he went after Lennox Lewis,

1634
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: and it was like Lennox Lewis, who was like the

1635
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 1: detail into Lenizws lewis career, there was always that little

1636
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: fear Lenslus's chin, by the way, got knocked out twice,

1637
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: but came back to knock out in the rematch both

1638
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: of those guys, and those are the only two he

1639
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: ever lost. So Leon S. Lewis is one of those

1640
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: rare all time great fires that says I beat everybody

1641
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: I stepped into the ring with. But because he had

1642
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: been stopped twice, there was always a little bit of

1643
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: fear that like, okay, maybe that chin isn't isn't great

1644
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: and you can get to it. We've seen it twice.

1645
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 1: And there was also that fear that, like the tail

1646
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: end of his career is he tried in his heart

1647
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: he had filmed that Ocean's eleven movie or whatever and

1648
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: and didn't wasn't fully trained coming into the U Hasim

1649
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: Rockman first fight and he got stopped in South Africa

1650
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: and it was, you know, this wild upset and he

1651
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 1: got him back and he got him back. By the way,

1652
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen Lennox Lewis's knockout of seem Rock

1653
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: Mount in the rematch, he got him back in like

1654
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 1: the most vicious fuck you way ever. I mean that's

1655
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 1: just not like laid him out. But there was like

1656
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: that fear of like, well, what if he doesn't show

1657
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: up tonight, and like fully, what if he's not motivated? Dude,

1658
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: Klitchko wanted to prove that he was like the most

1659
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: grimiest assassin of all time, and he put on a

1660
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: pace on Lennox Lewis in the first half of this fight.

1661
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: I think I only went six rounds. In the end,

1662
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: he put a pace on Lennox Lewis. That was like,

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01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out right now if I could be

1664
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: the heavyweight champion and you're all gonna find out that

1665
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: my balls are made of brass and I would never

1666
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: quit in a fight, and I'm gonna show you who

1667
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: I am right now, and you can tell Lenox like

1668
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, it was like, oh, nobody told me this

1669
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: wasn't an exhibition. I mean, he had that like, oh shit,

1670
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: I gotta fight my way out of this now. To

1671
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: Lenox's credit, bought his way out of it the best

1672
01:23:58,280 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: he could. Now, like, there's times you can watch that

1673
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 1: fight and almost support Larry merchants sort of like Jabs

1674
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: he was throwing out Lenox in the post fight interview

1675
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: of like, hey, you're kind of lucky the fight got stopped,

1676
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: right and then but then there's also times you can

1677
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: go back and go, nah, dude, Lenox adjusted and put

1678
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: it on this guy. Either way, Lenox put it on

1679
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: this guy so much that Vitali's face was falling off,

1680
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: is falling off. I mean, it was just disgusting and

1681
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: they they stop it and he goes nuts and he's

1682
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: all pissed off. But the pace of that war for

1683
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: two not only elite heavyweights, you know, Hall of Fame

1684
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: like almost like almost top ten, have you, I mean,

1685
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: fatality is probably not top ten, but like he's right there, right,

1686
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean, these are to just go at it at this.

1687
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a sick fight. And you

1688
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: wanted to remagine Lenox Lewis waited a year and then retired,

1689
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: did not you know, I don't never ended up getting

1690
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 1: the rematch or you know, Lenox never fought Vlad Klitschko,

1691
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 1: his brother except for in that Ocean's eleven thing that

1692
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: they filmed. Yeah, it's we called it the last great

1693
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: heavyweight fight for a long time until really we find

1694
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: only got a j Anthony Joshua against Clitchgo in twenty seventeen,

1695
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: and and then since then we've had Wilder Fury three.

1696
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: But uh classic, uh number seven is It's just it's

1697
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: just a joy to watch this slug fest two thousand

1698
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: junior middleweight unification Felix Trinidad, unbeaten from Puerto Rico against

1699
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: unbeaten Fernando Vargas representing Mexico, and just a young, brash

1700
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: badass in Vargas who just is like, you know, I'm

1701
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm I'm coming on, Like I mean, he's fucking coming on, bro.

1702
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: He's coming on every second of his career for the

1703
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: most part, but especially before that first loss, and the

1704
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: fight was so huge. I mean, it was a monster

1705
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 1: pay per view for non heavyweights in it right off

1706
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 1: the start just delivered and they both get knocked down

1707
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: in you know Vargas, as he also did in his

1708
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: knockout loss to Oscar de la Hoya a few years later.

1709
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: You know, when he would lose at the highest level

1710
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: he'd lose spectacularly. You know, he'd have his moments, but

1711
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: he would he took a beating to end this fight.

1712
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 1: And it's a war and it's crazy. It's got one

1713
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: of the best intros ever when Vargas is just like

1714
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: an Aztec warrior and there's this fake mountain of like

1715
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: boxes and he just you know, like a temple and

1716
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: he just kicks it over. I mean, it's just it's

1717
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: just it's wacky and it's awesome and the and it's

1718
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: Trinidad survive in the storm and showing exactly who the

1719
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: hell he is. And you can always look back on

1720
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: Fernando Vargas, who ended up having a you know, a

1721
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: very great career, but you're like, man, was it too

1722
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: much too soon? Could he have been could he have

1723
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: sustained it better and been better, you know, taking this

1724
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: foot off the gas just a little? Either way, he

1725
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: made amazing great fights. Number six on this list of

1726
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, MMA fans guide to witch boxing fights they

1727
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: should watch. You talk about a great trilogy in the

1728
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: middle two thousands. It's Manny Paccio versus Eric Morales. But

1729
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: it's the first chapter of that I got serious, serious

1730
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 1: back into boxing in two thousand and four. I had

1731
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 1: still been watching the big fights, but I had taken

1732
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: a few years off of hardcore level for sure, and

1733
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean the NBA is on fire. You know. Of course,

1734
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: in the late nineties before that, we all had to

1735
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,560
Speaker 1: run in pro wrestling, you know, everybody did it. And

1736
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: but I came back because I started sparring in late

1737
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, and you know, you get get

1738
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: knocked around, and you know, learning the craft of it

1739
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: for the first time, and my hunger for rewatching old

1740
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: fights just became out of this world. I mean, that's

1741
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 1: the pre YouTube last chance for If you can convert

1742
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 1: all these to vhs and sell them online, you can

1743
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: make good money. And there are people charging a lot

1744
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: of money for these fights, and I'm just buying people's

1745
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: whole career collections. And then I'm like, okay, I'm getting

1746
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 1: so hardcore into this, what's the next big fight? Because

1747
01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: I got to get myself fired up. And I remember

1748
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: talking to this tape collector guy in Mexico and California.

1749
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'll bet Mexican guy, and he was a

1750
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: huge Eric Morales fan, and he's like, dude, Eric Morales

1751
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: is fighting Manny Pacio at one hundred and thirty pounds.

1752
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: Pacuio's moving up and wait. It's like, this is the fight,

1753
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: this is the one, This is the one that we're

1754
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: all been waiting for, all of hardcore fans, like, this

1755
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: is the fight. And you know, Pacquio had blown away

1756
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: Marco Antonio Berrera in San Antonio and been like, you know,

1757
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: tell me how my ass tastes. Basically to the boxing world,

1758
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: We're like, oh my god. You know, now he's moving

1759
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: up and wait. And you know, Morales had been through

1760
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 1: the trilogy with Marco Antonio Barrera and he had lost

1761
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: the last two fights in that trilogy and he wasn't washed.

1762
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 1: But you're still like, is he gonna be set up

1763
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: to be blown away by this hurricane forced win that

1764
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: is Manny Pacquio in the small weight classes, And this

1765
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: is just prime Pacquio finally figuring out what to do

1766
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: with his right hand. Remember, you know, for a while

1767
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 1: it was he's got this right hook, it's his secret.

1768
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 1: It's called Manila ice, and it took him a while

1769
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: to become a two handed fighter. But this is when

1770
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: he's putting it together. And this is twelve of my

1771
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: favorite rounds in boxing history. Eric Morales gets a close

1772
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: decision win in the end because he cut Paqiao and

1773
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Pacio in his early half of his career. Didn't like

1774
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 1: that he did. He was a different fighter when he

1775
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 1: was cut and hurt. And this is like the perfect

1776
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: setup for Eric Morales, who who I think is the

1777
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: all is the He's my favorite bad ass in boxing history.

1778
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's my can't beone. That's why anyone who

1779
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: used to listen to my boxing podcast on CBS Sports

1780
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 1: knows how I would can't be owned my heroes in

1781
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 1: Las Vegas when I'm drunking off the clock at big

1782
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 1: time fights with my you know, media friends, and it's

1783
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 1: just like, oh, I love that guy. Let's go up

1784
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: to him, Let's accost him. Let's tell him that, you know,

1785
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: he had no business getting up from from that. You know,

1786
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: I'd be like, you had no business fighting my Donna

1787
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: with your eye closed, you know, the wave os you got.

1788
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 1: It's just it's humbling, you know. And I've done that

1789
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: to a few of my heroes, you know, cast of

1790
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: my Orge all, cast of my Org did that to

1791
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 1: him too. I've can't be owned a few of them.

1792
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: There's a reason why, because Eric Moreles is a bad ass,

1793
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 1: and when you hit him him, he's the best I've

1794
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: ever seen at the elite level of boxing or mma,

1795
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: where he gets so hurt and offended and you can

1796
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: see the emotion in his face that you landed such

1797
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: a big shot that he's like, oh no, and he

1798
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 1: comes just like drops everything and comes back and just

1799
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,759
Speaker 1: instantly lands big shots in return. And there's a sequence

1800
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 1: in this first round pac Yo against Marls that's just

1801
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: beautiful to watch of exactly that happening. A great fight,

1802
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: but this fight what makes this all time great and

1803
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 1: what makes the hey Morales is a badass thing real

1804
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: Why you would want to drunkenly accost him in public

1805
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 1: to celebrate the size of this man's waivos is In

1806
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 1: the twelfth round, Morales turns south paw for no other

1807
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: reason then, because he's a badass and went to war

1808
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: with Pacquiao standing both in the center of the ring

1809
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: and not moving and just throwing bombs, and Morales got

1810
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: lit up, like he got lit up, and you're like,

1811
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's getting knocked out, and he survived

1812
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 1: and fired back too, and and gets the close decision

1813
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: when and you're just like, oh my god, this guy

1814
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 1: is such a badass. And then in the after in

1815
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 1: the interview afterwards with Larry Merchant through the translator, he's like,

1816
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 1: you know, did you like that? Yeah? Yeah, Like yeah, Larry,

1817
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, because this is what I do, you know

1818
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 1: what I mean? He would go on to the trilogy

1819
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: is great to rewatch. The second fight was a it

1820
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 1: was on the way to being a classic win. And

1821
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: then the third fight is most known for the fact

1822
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: that Morales got steamrolled and he kind of had a

1823
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: No Moss moment. He got dropped for the third time

1824
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:35,640
Speaker 1: and he sat up against the ropes and he was

1825
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: just like referee was like, you're getting up. He's just like, nah,

1826
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. He was like, it's like,

1827
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm too smart to take this beating. Moving forward, this

1828
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: guy's got my number. But the first fight, Morales taking

1829
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 1: a stand. We should get some beers together and watch

1830
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: that together. I mean, that'd be great. Number five on

1831
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: this list. Could you could you not go wrong? In

1832
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 1: the Eric Morales Marco Antonio Barrera all Mexican all man

1833
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: rivalry in the lower waight classes. The first one in

1834
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 1: two thousand is my favorite, and just so people know,

1835
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: the rematch was great. Trilogies often do have like a

1836
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,600
Speaker 1: stinker of one of the three where it's just not

1837
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: a great fighter, not action. The second one is this,

1838
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 1: it was very boxing sent, you know, Brera made the

1839
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: adjustments and it was very boxing heavy. The third one

1840
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four is just, hey, we might

1841
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: as well meet a third time and just brawl, and

1842
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 1: it was great. But the purity of this first one,

1843
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys like had brawled at press conferences

1844
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: before the fight, Like these guys he hated each other,

1845
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: and it's like the badass like villain at the end

1846
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 1: of the movie. Morales just putting his you know, testosterone

1847
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 1: up there, and Barrera's like they call him the baby

1848
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: face Assassin, but he's he's the guy who, like hell,

1849
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 1: he can brawl with you, but he kind of wants

1850
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 1: to be a boxer, and he should be a boxer.

1851
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 1: It's smarter for him. And the reason why this matchup

1852
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: between these two was so great is Morales would lure

1853
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 1: him into a war, and sometimes Brer would lure Morales

1854
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: into a war and try to counter him, and and

1855
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,799
Speaker 1: they just they would have it's it's akin to listening

1856
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: to either jazz or like you know, jam band rock

1857
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 1: and roll, which of course is you know, influenced in

1858
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 1: a lot of ways by the free form improvisation of

1859
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 1: of jazz. But in those great jams, you know, whether

1860
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 1: you listen to Fish and the Dead or you're listening

1861
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 1: to you know, Miles Davis and by the way, Oh

1862
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: God on the Corner by Miles Davis. I don't talk

1863
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: a lot about Miles Davis because I'm trying to do

1864
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: it right. I'm trying to take my time. I'm trying

1865
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: to really really, you know, I want to speak out

1866
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: of turn, and you know, I'm really you know, if

1867
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:35,799
Speaker 1: you're coming on, I'm coming on, Miles Damn. That that

1868
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 1: that blend of funk and rock fusion is insane. But

1869
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 1: there's moments in those jams obviously where you know, Fish

1870
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: does a great job of peekin you know all One

1871
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 1: brothers as well, were they just they're out of control,

1872
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: they're just it's beautiful. It's another world level. Morales and

1873
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 1: Berera would have those same sequences of just fure, just fury,

1874
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,640
Speaker 1: and it's just a sight to behold, and it's beautiful

1875
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 1: and the spite they have for each other in the ring,

1876
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 1: it's it was like that special sauce on top. So

1877
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: the first ones from two thousand, You'll love it, You'll

1878
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: love boxing, you'll love Mexico, You'll love everything about it. Uh.

1879
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: Number four is the greatest example of a Rocky movie

1880
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 1: fight actually playing out at the highest level, at somewhat

1881
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: highest level. And I cannot believe if you haven't seen

1882
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 1: Timothy Bradley Junior versus Russan pravadnikoff from twenty thirteen, I

1883
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 1: mean really drop everything and just go find that, find

1884
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: the footage, because it was supposed to be Tim Bradley

1885
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: the Great Champion and you know trilogy with Manny Pakiao,

1886
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: and it was supposed to be him like blowing away

1887
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 1: this contender. But like attraction in rus Lampolovagen, he's a brawler,

1888
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 1: he comes head on, but Bradley he's gonna blow him away.

1889
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 1: And Bradley had so much motivation to like say f

1890
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: you to boxing because he goes in there and fights

1891
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 1: many pakia in the first fight and he fights through

1892
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: two serious injuries like you know, ankle and his leg

1893
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 1: and he wins this very controversial decision, and you know

1894
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 1: he didn't score it that way, the judges did, right,

1895
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 1: but he fought his ass off, So of course he's like,

1896
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: well man, you know, no, I I you know, I'm

1897
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 1: not gonna apologize for getting to win here, and the

1898
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 1: the boxing public just like villainized it. And he took

1899
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 1: that shit to heart, and he was of a mindset that,

1900
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 1: like he told his dad as trainer, who's a trip.

1901
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: If you ever watched the uh you know, the pre

1902
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 1: fight documentary stuff, it's just a I'm his dad just

1903
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 1: questions his son's manhood constantly, was like what's that? What's that? Smell? Pussy?

1904
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: And you know, just you know, just ridiculous things. You know,

1905
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 1: he told his dad before I'm gonna kill this kid,

1906
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 1: meaning Ruslam Provadakov. You know, I'm gonna shut everybody up.

1907
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: Those are the best ever setups for like great fights

1908
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 1: for somebody in the NBA scoring you know fifty and

1909
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: like an f U game, but in boxing is pretty

1910
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 1: damn violent when it's fueled by that kind of spite.

1911
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 1: And Bradley just went in there was like, you know,

1912
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna blow this guy away, and that's what

1913
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 1: Ruslam Provadennikov welcomes. That's the spider web. But there's no

1914
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 1: like tricks. He's not like he's just sitting here saying, dude,

1915
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it, like I'm gonna go life or

1916
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 1: death with you. And these two went life for death

1917
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:32,919
Speaker 1: with each other. And Bradley got knocked the hell around

1918
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: and kept getting back up, and you know, there's some

1919
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 1: rounds that he's actually boxing from distance, which is what

1920
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 1: he's supposed to do, and then the next round just

1921
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 1: gets monstrously concussed again and he's fighting when he should

1922
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:49,680
Speaker 1: be holding. And it's just a example of how do

1923
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: you want to say the human spirit, like Julana pain

1924
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 1: you upsetting a man in newness is like the human

1925
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 1: spirit coming through. I mean, this is just like the

1926
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 1: human will. This is just too stubborn people just saying,

1927
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 1: like in Provanocaus's face is a mess, but he's still

1928
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 1: coming on And there's questionable scoring on the ruling of

1929
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: a knockdown and Bradley ends up winning a very close decision.

1930
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: A lot of people saw it the other way and Bradley,

1931
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 1: to his credit, with springboard from this fight, Go Fight

1932
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: One Men. Will Mark is on pay per view right

1933
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: after Marc has knocked Packing out out cold and like

1934
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: out box him in a thriller. Just a great tactical,

1935
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 1: technical fight. But he some people think he got a

1936
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 1: gift here, and I think I scored a draw and

1937
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: I didn't hate the judges giving it to Bradley, although

1938
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, the scores were a little little funky in

1939
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 1: some ways. But uh, the punishment Bradley took, I mean

1940
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,759
Speaker 1: he got like he was fed up after this fight physically,

1941
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, like deep concussions and realcity, you know, like

1942
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 1: long imember he was. He did an interview with Max

1943
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 1: Kellerman on like La ESPN Radio after that fight, and

1944
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: he was like telling Max. She's like, you know, I

1945
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: told my dad, this is your fault. You created this

1946
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 1: killer with no off switch, your fault. And He's like,

1947
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, I was in like dark dark places, you know,

1948
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 1: physically and mentally after that that fight, and uh, just

1949
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,600
Speaker 1: a psyclope. This guy's just a psychopath. That's why I

1950
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 1: love Timothy Bradley Junior so much. By the way, he's

1951
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 1: great commentator and he's a great got an interview always

1952
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 1: has been, always been an all interview team because he

1953
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 1: just tells the truth with passion. But uh, you're talking

1954
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 1: about the human will and the humans. I mean, this

1955
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: guy like he had to go to it. It wasn't

1956
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: just hell right, it was like, Okay, I'm in hell.

1957
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 1: I see the back room, you know, let's see the

1958
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: pipes of this place. Uh, unbelievable. I'm humbled even telling

1959
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 1: you about this fight. If there's anyone still watching right now,

1960
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm humbled to tell you how great that fight is.

1961
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:44,600
Speaker 1: Number three on this list is uh, you know, it

1962
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 1: might be the greatest. Like sometimes you know, usually in boxing,

1963
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 1: like some fights are meant to be great fights, but

1964
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 1: it's like action fighter versus action fighter. But we love

1965
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 1: the best is when a great fight between pound for

1966
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: pound grades and all time greats in this case, turns

1967
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 1: into that great all time action fight in like, turning

1968
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: into that is a great ending, right, We love it

1969
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 1: when they turn into action fights. Sometimes it's got to

1970
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 1: be technical and tactical for a while. No, this was

1971
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 1: Manny Paciol versus one then while Mark is part four

1972
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 1: and this turned out to be one of the greatest

1973
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 1: fights in boxing. His one of my favorite fights, one

1974
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 1: of the most emotional fights. They're they're both still they're

1975
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 1: old and this is the fourth time they're fighting, and

1976
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 1: let's not forget there was customer fatigue, like a lot

1977
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: of it, if people saying, I don't need to see

1978
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: this matchup again. I saw the first three and most

1979
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 1: people thought Marquez got a raw deal on most of

1980
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 1: the scorecards. Mark has never thought he lost any of

1981
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 1: the four. By the way, he's probably never thought he

1982
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 1: lost a fight in his life. He's, you know, notoriously

1983
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: stubborn in that regard. But these guys were at the

1984
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 1: end of their careers. But Marquez was going through his

1985
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 1: is he on Rud's or is he just drinking jet

1986
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: fuel period where he bulked up to welterweight and it's

1987
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 1: just suddenly this Force and he's old too. But yet

1988
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,080
Speaker 1: there's still like two and three in the POW for

1989
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 1: pound top ten, and they're both future Hall of famers,

1990
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: and this is their fourth meeting. But we all kind

1991
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 1: of came in there going, okay, it'll be fun. Right.

1992
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: The third one was like a thriller when Manny made

1993
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 1: that comeback to Force. You know, the close scorecards, and

1994
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, the first two were just incredible for so

1995
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 1: many great dramatic reasons. I thought the fourth one was

1996
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 1: gonna kind of stink, but just be fun because it's

1997
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 1: them and they're old. I didn't expect like a blood

1998
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: and guts almost Barrera Morales, fuck you type pace to

1999
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 1: this fight of just like I hate you, I'm coming

2000
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 1: after you. And this is like street fight rules, right,

2001
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: This is like Rocky five when Rocky took Tommy More

2002
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Tommy Gunn to the to the to the to the alley.

2003
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: You know you, oh you push your on polikumudo as

2004
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 1: my dad would say endlessly after that, after we saw

2005
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:52,480
Speaker 1: Rocky five, that that shitter in the theater. This was incredible.

2006
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 1: Paco gets straight up dropped early and you're like, oh

2007
01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 1: and he got the It was a looping right and

2008
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 1: Pacio went down hard and you're like, oh shit, I

2009
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen Patio knock down before. Actually,

2010
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 1: and you know what, Patio's he He's such a force.

2011
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't really think I've ever seen like crazy hurt

2012
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: like I saw him bleeding against Morales. I saw him

2013
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,639
Speaker 1: in you know, certain shootouts against Marquez, but like never

2014
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 1: hurt like that. And they and you had Marcuz just

2015
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 1: fighting like like you stole everything. I worked for in

2016
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,600
Speaker 1: my life, and I am here at the end of

2017
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 1: this action movie to gain my revenge because you know, Mark,

2018
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 1: it was the all time greatest revenge when Marquez legitimately

2019
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: feels like he was screwed on the scorecards against the

2020
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: more marketable fighter at every fight, every single fight, including

2021
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: the first one when he got knocked down three times

2022
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: in the first round and yet still forced to draw

2023
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 1: because he came back and he's like just the demeanor

2024
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 1: of I'm going to kill you. But then Pacchio puts

2025
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 1: it on him in this rally and it's like old

2026
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 1: Pacchio again. It's like the the Pacchiao who used to

2027
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 1: womanize and gamble and like that. There's no fear, like trunks,

2028
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 1: dyed hair with the blonde bristles, that many pacy. You

2029
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: know that guy. He was back that night and that's

2030
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,600
Speaker 1: what led to him getting knocked the hell out in

2031
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 1: the most vicious manner ever. But how sweet is this

2032
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 1: for Marcus who's basically like, I'm going to take out

2033
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 1: all my anger of how my career went on you

2034
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: right now, and he is almost stopped the round before

2035
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 1: the knockout happens. His nose is a broken, bloody mess,

2036
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 1: and he's getting battered and he's walking through him, but

2037
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 1: he's getting there's a price he's paying for it, you know.

2038
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 1: And then he uncorks the deadliest counter shot of all

2039
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: time with that right hand that flatlines many Pacio to

2040
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: a level that it is not hyperbole. And I'm doing

2041
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 1: I think I was doing a live blog on ESPN

2042
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 1: dot com at the time, doing like constant play by

2043
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: play typing it. And so I'm watching this and I'm

2044
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: in this fight right and I'm going I'm texting everybody

2045
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 1: in between, how sick is this fight? There's no war?

2046
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:02,679
Speaker 1: And then it's over, and it's over in the most

2047
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 1: thuddingly violent, emphatic way ever. That for the fifty five

2048
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:11,799
Speaker 1: seconds that Mannipacio was down, out cold and not moving

2049
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 1: before they revived him, During that fifty five seconds, they're

2050
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: showing his wife screaming, crying, climbing up the apron. They're

2051
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 1: showing Bob Aaron trying to comforting her but looking in

2052
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 1: his face like like his son was just murdered or something.

2053
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 1: You know, they massacred my boy. I mean, like he

2054
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 1: had that face and you thought Manupaca was dead. No

2055
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: one talks about that enough, like you know, you know, no,

2056
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 1: you you were like, no, he's he's dead, Like that's

2057
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 1: the most I mean for that to happen in the

2058
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 1: in the fourth and you know, that's the greatest rivalry

2059
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: of the modern era, without question, and it was already

2060
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: going to be one of the best. But to have that,

2061
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: that's your send off. And in morale and sorry Marquez,

2062
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, blood everywhere, jump up on the corner turnbuckles

2063
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:03,600
Speaker 1: and the Mexican fan going sick in Las Vegas. You know,

2064
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: I remember doing that live blog and Karen mulvaney, who's

2065
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 1: host of the Showtime Boxing podcast right now with Eric Reskin,

2066
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 1: and I love Karen. I've been up and down the

2067
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 1: road with him forever, been his editor a lot of times,

2068
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 1: all that stuff. He was ringside. And when Pakia is

2069
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 1: down for fifty five seconds, when you're doing a live

2070
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 1: blog a guy was for ESPN, you gotta constantly pump

2071
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 1: that thing with what you're seeing and everything. I mean,

2072
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 1: you're you're you're telling the story for those that didn't

2073
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 1: buy it, right. I didn't type anything for like ninety seconds,

2074
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 1: two minutes because my jaw was like down to here.

2075
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 1: But as soon as I wrapped up what I was doing,

2076
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 1: and you know, put up the story that just whatever

2077
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 1: I had to do as an editor. I texted Mulvene

2078
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 1: and I think he texted me and he was like,

2079
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe I just witnessed that.

2080
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: And I tech and and I was just like, I

2081
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 1: think I was like, tell me what it felt like,

2082
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 1: tell me what it smelled like, Like tell me what

2083
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 1: it tasted like, like you just experienced like you were

2084
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 1: in the movie, you know. And he goes, hey, do

2085
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: you mind if I call you right now? And like

2086
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm in the first floor of the house I'm renting.

2087
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 1: My kids are small and up still sleeping, my wife sleeping,

2088
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, yeah, yeah, dude, call me right now.

2089
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 1: And we proceeded like giddy schoolgirls to be like, oh

2090
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 1: my god, I can't believe I just watched them, Oh

2091
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 1: my god. And I'm sure I just screamed into the

2092
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 1: microphone and woke a lot of you up. But like

2093
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 1: that's as amazing as this sport can get when it's

2094
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 1: got the storyline, you know, the fourth fight of the

2095
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 1: rivalry and they hate the shit out of each other,

2096
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: and the guy that kind of screwed throughout is able

2097
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 1: to land the final blow and just be like yeah,

2098
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 1: and you know, and there's questions if he's on the stuff,

2099
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 1: and uh, I can't believe Pachyao rebounded from that and

2100
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 1: was you know, still the fighter that he was the

2101
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: rest of his career. It might still be. I do

2102
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 1: think he's coming back by the way I do. But

2103
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,639
Speaker 1: you know, not eighty percent of fighters who would take

2104
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,799
Speaker 1: that kind of out loss at that age that backyard

2105
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 1: did they mean they're they're not fighting again, Like that's

2106
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 1: the end of your career, that's the end of that's

2107
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 1: the extinguishing of all that invincibility that allows you to

2108
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 1: believe you can do this at this level, you know,

2109
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 1: And and I mean it was it was out And

2110
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 1: credit to Bakia on the post fight interviews after they

2111
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:26,120
Speaker 1: rewoke him and he's calming down his family, but like, damn,

2112
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: damn that there's there's nothing you can't like you. I

2113
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:32,640
Speaker 1: don't feel that watching the Super Bowl, you know what

2114
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 1: I mean. And I've been I've been a I've been

2115
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 1: a monstrous sports fan my whole life in every sport

2116
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 1: and you know, and I've worked the front page of

2117
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 1: ESPN dot com and you know when you're you gotta

2118
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: know everything and every I mean, I've lived this, and

2119
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, I've been a part of some great moments

2120
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 1: watching as a fan like you have, you know, like

2121
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:51,680
Speaker 1: Landon Donovan scoring that goal in the World Cup and

2122
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 1: like you know that kind of like I've seen some

2123
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 1: fun stuff, you know, MBA moments that are just Shakespearean.

2124
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 1: Nothing ever made me feel like Pacquio Marcus four and

2125
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 1: like the forget one hour afterwards, like the next day,

2126
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 1: like that's just like that's real life. I mean that

2127
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 1: is wow. I mean, hope I hope you feel like

2128
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 1: that after watching the MK documentaries. I doubt it. I

2129
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 1: hope that's my you know, that's my working plan and

2130
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 1: my goal, all right. Number one and two are you

2131
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 1: pick your your flavor, whichever one you like better. One's

2132
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 1: definitely better than two in terms of better fight. But

2133
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 1: these are the two defining not defining rivalries. Although Mickey

2134
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: Ward versus Artro Gotti was a great rivalry and it

2135
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: is one of the best rivalries, but these two were,

2136
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 1: like I mean, these are fights that brought people back

2137
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 1: as boxing fans. Again, these two, these are fights that

2138
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 1: in some ways, like how does it like I say

2139
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 1: this sometimes. I say this once one like, I don't

2140
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 1: know any real boxing fans in my day to day

2141
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 1: life for the most part. A couple of dads around

2142
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 1: town that know a little bit and we have some

2143
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 1: nice talks and all that, and that's fun and I

2144
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 1: treasure that. But like, you know, I'm talking to my

2145
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 1: brain in this game. The other journalists, you know, the

2146
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: RAF Bartholomew's or the you know, great fans that have

2147
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 1: come to meet and even getting like DM or text

2148
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 1: relationships with because you're just super fight fans, right and

2149
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 1: these are like these are the type of fights that

2150
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 1: build the resolve in you as an addicted super fan

2151
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:24,639
Speaker 1: to put up with all the ridiculousness that this sport

2152
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: makes you financially, in terms of your patients, in terms

2153
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 1: of you know everything. It's fights like these two, one

2154
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 1: and two that I mean, you know they're there. It's

2155
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 1: the what is Hagler hearns to a generation of people,

2156
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 1: you know everything rightfully, so you know, it almost defines

2157
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 1: the reason why you watch and the feeling that it

2158
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 1: gives you. And number two, it's my favorite fight of

2159
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 1: all time. It's the first Mickey Ward Arturo Gotti fight.

2160
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 1: Two thousand and two. Their trilogy is insane. Shout out

2161
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 1: to HBO. Their their documentary about that trilogy is also

2162
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 1: very well done. But they're like they're paired together as

2163
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 1: sort of two journeyman action fighters on the way out.

2164
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: Who Hey, wouldn't it be great if these two ever fought?

2165
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 1: So hey, let's just do it now and they'll both

2166
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 1: get a good payday out of it. And yeah, and

2167
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 1: obviously God he had a brighter ceiling at that time

2168
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 1: and was still you know, and largely in title contention,

2169
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: GotY would have ar Turtle Gotty was. I mean, he

2170
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 1: lived like a living your life quarter mile at a time,

2171
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:28,719
Speaker 1: like fast and furious, like that was his life, dude.

2172
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 1: I mean I actually just recently talked to somebody who

2173
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:33,600
Speaker 1: who had partied with him, and uh, he was an

2174
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: MK fan and I was talking to who who was

2175
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 1: in that close to that circle at one time, and

2176
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 1: he's like, dude, nobody went harder than dry, Like it's

2177
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 1: not even like nobody went that hard, you know what

2178
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean? And I mean, look, he lived fast, he

2179
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: died hard, and it's how he died is just you know,

2180
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:50,719
Speaker 1: it's unsolved, to say the least. And still just ridiculously said,

2181
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 1: but he had a brighter ceiling to still be a

2182
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:55,640
Speaker 1: title contender, but he would have so many highs and

2183
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 1: lows and dips and partying too much and injuries like

2184
01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 1: he would he would crash and burn and a lot

2185
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 1: in his career where you'd stop taking him seriously as

2186
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 1: a like legitimate fighter, like title contending one, and just attraction,

2187
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 1: a guy who had authored some of the most absurd

2188
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 1: come from behind all action, blood and guts wins in

2189
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:18,519
Speaker 1: this history, to the point where like Artural Gotti became

2190
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: one of those weird rare franchises where he had his

2191
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: own fans and they followed him wherever and when he

2192
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, they rightfully gave him a home there at

2193
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 1: Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, and there was like a

2194
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 1: rock concert when he fought, you know, coming out to

2195
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 1: thunderstruck by you know ac DC's just like the you know,

2196
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:40,600
Speaker 1: it's just it's the chef's kiss. It's perfect, and you know,

2197
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 1: he he lived up to that reputation time and again.

2198
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:46,559
Speaker 1: But he's fighting old as Mickey Ward here, who you know,

2199
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 1: like tried his best to become a real title contender

2200
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 1: but never quite got there. Like you know, had some

2201
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 1: bit the Shanery win. I love it. They built the

2202
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg movie, The Fighter was really built around the

2203
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 1: run Mickey had against the odds Stephen getting that Shanary fight,

2204
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 1: which was for like a IBU title, like one of

2205
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 1: those not real titles, but like whatever. But Mickey had

2206
01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:08,600
Speaker 1: been the all action B side guy, you know, and

2207
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 1: and he'd had great comfort behind wins. But and he's

2208
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 1: had great action fights. God, the Emmanuel Augustus fight, Emmanuel

2209
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 1: Burt and Augustus, God, that's a great fight. But when

2210
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 1: you put these two together and said use you know,

2211
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 1: use your powers, you know, like you've met your equal,

2212
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 1: That's what they both said, I want to meet my equal.

2213
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 1: Ahead of this fight, they met their equal. There's a

2214
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: reason why these guys became brothers after this trilogy, to

2215
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 1: the point where Ward was started training Gotti for those

2216
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 1: last couple of fights of his career. It's it's almost

2217
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: spiritual this fight. It's weird to say that, but like

2218
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 1: in it. The reason why I put Corrals Castille ahead

2219
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 1: of it is because and you have to put it

2220
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 1: historically too, this fight wasn't for a title. It was

2221
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,640
Speaker 1: just for like, you know, action fighter pay day. But

2222
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: it took a while to kind of get serious. You know,

2223
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 1: it's a couple of rounds feeling you out. But when

2224
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 1: it turned, I mean it's it's got The round nine

2225
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 1: is a round nine, my favorite round in boxing history,

2226
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 1: and it's got one of the most insane rounds of

2227
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,719
Speaker 1: all time, really the most insane, like couple round package

2228
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 1: of like seven, eight, nine, ten in a row. It's

2229
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, I consider for an hour and tell you

2230
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:18,559
Speaker 1: how why that fight is so great. But I think

2231
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 1: ultimately the reason why it's it clings to certain boxing fans'

2232
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 1: hearts more than Corrals Castillo is the human emotion that

2233
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 1: was shown by both in it and overcoming so much,

2234
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,360
Speaker 1: and the same thing happened to Ccrals Caristio, no question,

2235
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 1: but like Gotti making that like Grimace when he got

2236
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 1: dropped by that body shot and he has no freaking

2237
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 1: business getting up from that body shot. Mickey Ward knocked

2238
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,640
Speaker 1: out so many. Mickey Ward had that outpitch. He had

2239
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 1: the you know forkball that the cutter, say it, Mariano

2240
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 1: the cutter. He had the damn cutter that you couldn't hit,

2241
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 1: and you know you couldn't stop. He'll find a way

2242
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 1: to get that left hook to your liver and he'll

2243
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 1: stop you. And he hit Artgotti with one of those,

2244
01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 1: and God, he's like try and like hell to be like,

2245
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm the biggest badast you ever met. Man, I fight

2246
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 1: through this shit. And he's like and it's not letting him.

2247
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 1: And he finally gets to his feet, and you know

2248
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 1: the beating he takes after that, Like, thank God, Frank

2249
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 1: Cappuccino was so stubborn and old as a legendary referee

2250
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 1: at that point that he's just like, you know, because

2251
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,280
Speaker 1: Jim Lampley, the famous you know announcers, was yelling into

2252
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 1: the mic, you know, you gotta stop this fight, Frank.

2253
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 1: You know, to stop this fight. You can stop at

2254
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 1: any time. And you know, seeing him overcome that and

2255
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,439
Speaker 1: then flip it back on Mickey Ward. And that's the

2256
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 1: same thing of what made the first Riddick Bow Evander

2257
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 1: Holyfield fight so great and that incredible round ten is

2258
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 1: because they had that same thing where somebody's on the

2259
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 1: verge of this dominant stoppage and then it turns in

2260
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 1: a Brockolesner Shane Carwin type way and it turns fast

2261
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 1: and quick and the back and forth of the final

2262
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: two and a half rounds here is just savage, and

2263
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 1: you know their whole trilogy was. The second one is

2264
01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 1: the stinker of the three. I have a soft spot four.

2265
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: The third round is among the best rounds of the

2266
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 1: rivalry between these two, but it was one sided. Gott

2267
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 1: he boxed like he always should against this guy. Uh.

2268
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,759
Speaker 1: The third one's wild man, you know, Gotti, uh, building

2269
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: a big league but then hurt in his hand and

2270
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 1: he can't throw his right hand suddenly, and then he

2271
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 1: gets dropped and and that's a wild ass fight. Gotti

2272
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 1: wins it, and he was the fresher fighter. But they

2273
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 1: put their they put themselves through like life altering hell

2274
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 1: with these thirty rounds. And the first one is just

2275
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: an emotional journey that you know, you're not gonna fight

2276
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 1: forget sports're gonna find in life. Really, it's just it's

2277
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 1: it's an incredible ride to get there.

2278
01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

2279
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 1: The final one, number one. You know, it's not out

2280
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 1: of line to call this the greatest fight in boxing history.

2281
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 1: And like the old like the real old timers really

2282
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: tried to like not do that after it happened and

2283
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: be like, okay, it's among that it's all time great,

2284
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 1: but like, hold on, let's I mean, is it really

2285
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 1: the best of all time? It might be the best

2286
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 1: of all it's the best of this era, like with

2287
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 1: a bullet, and it's two thousand and five, it's at

2288
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 1: the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, and it's a lightweight

2289
01:54:55,680 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 1: title unification Diego Corrals against Jorge Luis Castillo. There's not

2290
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 1: enough amazing things, and it was just really you know,

2291
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 1: what was it two years ago? Was the anniversary of

2292
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 1: this fight? What was it a fifteen year anniversary? I'm

2293
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 1: guessing two thousand and five to twenty twenty, And you know,

2294
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 1: we did a bunch of morning combat was around. We

2295
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 1: did a few fun interviews online. I think I interviewed

2296
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 1: the referee, Tony Weeks. I interviewed Joe Goosen, who was

2297
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 1: famously with the with the awesome dress shirt like he's

2298
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 1: going out to rock the clubs in the corner of

2299
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Diego Corrals, you know, and he delivered one of the

2300
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 1: all time greatest lines by a trainer ever of better

2301
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 1: fucking get inside on him now like a disappointed dad,

2302
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 1: which fueled, you know, one of the maybe the greatest

2303
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 1: comeback in a boxing match of all time when when

2304
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 1: Diego Corralis turned the table. But I got a chance

2305
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 1: to talk to those guys about it, and I wrote

2306
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 1: a oral history that if you've got time, search CBS

2307
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 1: Sports from a couple of years ago, the Oral History

2308
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 1: of Corrals Castillo One talked to a lot of people

2309
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 1: who were there, and man, that's a why couldn't I

2310
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 1: have seen the future and got a flight to go

2311
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 1: to that fight. So there was only like four thousand

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01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 1: people in the crowd for that fight, and it was

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01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 1: on showtime, but it was expected by everybody to be

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Speaker 1: like I talked about, like when Ward and god He

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01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: got together, You're like, okay, it's an important fight title unification.

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Speaker 1: But like the way these guys are wired and the

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01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 1: way that they're giving interviews like they're gonna they're willing

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Speaker 1: to die in there, like they're good, they are ready

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01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 1: for the war of their lifetime. And it absolutely turned

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Speaker 1: into that and more. And unlike Gotty Ward, which had

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Speaker 1: a couple you know, slow rounds to set things up,

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01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: this off the start is just electric and it's just

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01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 1: both standing in the center of the ring, and it's

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Speaker 1: not what makes it great? Is it not sloppy? It's

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Speaker 1: not just some sloppy brawl. People try to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mickey Ward arterar got it was just a sloppy brawl.

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01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot of sloppy there's a lot of great

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01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 1: sloppiness in there. It was also you know, they could

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01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 1: box too, But this one, Corral's castillo, is really at

2330
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 1: a higher level. They are both executing their offensive plan

2331
01:56:56,760 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 1: almost to perfection against one another. They're making defensive and adjustments,

2332
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 1: so it's not slopping out of control, but they're having

2333
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,800
Speaker 1: great success with with what they're trying to do when

2334
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 1: they sort of take turns taking the lead and the

2335
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:12,880
Speaker 1: brutality of the body shots and the damage that they're

2336
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 1: accepting that are willingly accepting to take to not give

2337
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 1: up that real estate, you know, like like I love football,

2338
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 1: I played the I played one year of organized foot

2339
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 1: but I'm glad I did it, you know, because I

2340
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 1: was I was not tough enough to be like, you know,

2341
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 1: a high school football player looking back, but playing one,

2342
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, getting knocked around, playing one one year, you know,

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01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: you have a certain respect for it, certainly that you

2344
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had. And but we all watch football in

2345
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 1: different ways. Betting perspective, fantasy or just love our favorite

2346
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:45,440
Speaker 1: team so much. And but like you talk to the hardcores,

2347
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:47,200
Speaker 1: the coaches, the high school coach. I used to interview

2348
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:51,320
Speaker 1: a million high school coaches, and they just love the

2349
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 1: battle that happens at that line of scrimmage. And there's

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01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 1: one coach I used to always interview. He's an elite

2351
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 1: high school coach, had a great program, but he's the

2352
01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:00,400
Speaker 1: worst interview because every single time he would say, you know,

2353
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 1: what's asking what's the key to the game coming up?

2354
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 1: Is you know, whoever blocks and tackles better at the line,

2355
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be our five against theirs, and blah blah blah.

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01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 1: And you know, and the ones that get it, the

2357
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 1: ones that lived it, know that football to them feels

2358
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 1: like a you know, an alternate reality of war. And

2359
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, the line and setting up and in theory

2360
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 1: in a running based attack. Yes, of course, these guys

2361
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 1: Corals and Castillo, we're trying. We're concocting that same battle

2362
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 1: in such a tiny little foam booth, and we're just

2363
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 1: not willing to get off that line and take a

2364
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 1: back step. And the fact that it never sort of

2365
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 1: like turned into a wild brawl and stayed a very

2366
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 1: high level action fight kind of filled in any gap

2367
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 1: it would have had an argument of not being this great.

2368
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 1: It was perfect, had the perfect ending, They had the

2369
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 1: perfect characters that had Castillo just not just being a badass,

2370
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 1: and there was waves of momentum and at the end

2371
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 1: of the first round, Albernstein to showtime is just like

2372
01:58:57,480 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: this is like an all time great fight, like already,

2373
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 1: like this is just ridiculous. There's so many great calls

2374
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 1: that he and Steve Albert had during that fight, and uh,

2375
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: just Carrels has comeback is just you rewatch it. Like

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01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm a Mets fan. I'm not a hardcore baseball fan anymore,

2377
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 1: but you know I was in the nineties, two thousands

2378
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 1: and the eighties of course, But you know, there's a

2379
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 1: there's a thing that if I see a video of

2380
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:26,080
Speaker 1: like you know, the Buckner play and right night rounding

2381
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,040
Speaker 1: third and the Mets win it, you almost get emotional.

2382
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's like that's my team. That's my team.

2383
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:35,879
Speaker 1: I remember that, and it's like that watching Diego Correlis

2384
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:37,560
Speaker 1: has come back here. Even if you have no connection

2385
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 1: to day to day o'crels at all, like it's just

2386
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:44,800
Speaker 1: it's it's what's possible when you don't give up, right,

2387
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 1: and it's I mean he's spent out the mouthpiece to

2388
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 1: lose the point. But by time, how ingenious in that

2389
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 1: moment something he had just learned the fight before, or

2390
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of fights before against uh, against

2391
01:59:57,000 --> 02:00:00,160
Speaker 1: Popo Freitas a Seleno Freitas, when he when he went

2392
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 1: in there and won that title to really kind of

2393
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:04,880
Speaker 1: set up the need for this fight. And it's Joe

2394
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,080
Speaker 1: Goose and yelling at him wearing that shirt, and it's

2395
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 1: the moment of like, oh my god, he came back

2396
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,240
Speaker 1: from being down thirty five to nothing at the start

2397
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter, like he actually did this.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 1: Those are the ten fights that moved me that I

2400
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 1: think will move you to enjoy. All Right, I guess

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Speaker 1: we've hit the two hour mark. I've really just been

2402
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 1: talking to this I was been making love to this

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Speaker 1: camera right all right. By the way, maybe the greatest

2404
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Speaker 1: line of all time. I forgot what fight it was,

2405
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:43,000
Speaker 1: maybe ahead of the Miguel Coto fight, but Paul Malanaji

2406
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Speaker 1: is saying a former Showtime broadcaster saying, pressure. I think

2407
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 1: love the pressure. It's aggressive. It's aggressive Pali, but I

2408
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Speaker 1: do like that spirit, you know, like like I go

2409
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Speaker 1: after it. You know, give me a two hour shop.

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Speaker 1: about your future. One option is to pound the stand.

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Speaker 1: BC hardcorees out there, the few of you that have

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Speaker 1: enjoyed this run, thank you. Thank you for being you know,

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Speaker 1: my passenger here. I've enjoyed it as well. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, MK ain't MK Chuck. Chuck does a really

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Speaker 1: great job, right, but MK and MK unless it's b

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Speaker 1: C n LT. So let's get the peanut butter back

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Speaker 2: We ow.