WEBVTT - Ben Simmons & Philadelphia Will Never Work

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, come on, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>In this episode of The heat Check, we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the wild roller coaster that is the Ben Simmons and

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<v Speaker 2>six or saga, we get into the top seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>players of all time list and the people snubbed.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about Kyle Lowry.

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<v Speaker 2>And the impact that he's already having in the Miami Heat,

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<v Speaker 2>and some other news from around the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it. I mean, we got to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Ben Simmons, right, well, well, well.

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<v Speaker 2>We started out the first season of The heat Check,

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<v Speaker 2>which is called This Leak.

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<v Speaker 1>We are now the.

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast formerly known as This Leak, kind of like Prince,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was.

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<v Speaker 1>With a discussion of Ben Simmons.

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<v Speaker 2>We started it with Ben, we ended it with Ben,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we started this new endeavor with Ben. The

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<v Speaker 2>more things change, I guess, the more things stay. The

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<v Speaker 2>goddamn thame Like time's well a flat circle, they say, YadA, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't ask Kyrie what time is because he'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, planets when they're flat, I don't think they

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<v Speaker 2>Time is the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's a real bold take.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing some thinking forget Dennis Rodman forget Meadow

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<v Speaker 2>World Peace AKAA, run our test, Forget Joe Barry Carroll,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Barey, Caros, Ben Simmons.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you know that well? You know that well?

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Simmons is the most polarizing NBA player in NBA history.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a bold assertion.

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<v Speaker 2>And to me, this is only going to get more

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<v Speaker 2>solidified as time goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only going to get worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, Like, I don't think that there's a player that

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<v Speaker 2>has caused more intense debate, a player that has caused

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<v Speaker 2>more defense for and more rank or towards more chaos

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<v Speaker 2>over a long period than Ben. He's had loyal defenders

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<v Speaker 2>willing to go just like to the ends of the

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<v Speaker 2>earth for Ben Simmons, no matter how bad he played,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter how dogshit he was, it was like Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Simmons is a Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 1>If he had a jump shot, It's like, well that's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty big if, isn't it? Isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>He also had extremely loud, annoying characters being.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh my god, what a bum, Ben Simmons. No jumper,

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<v Speaker 3>Ben off the backboard, two moves, No bag, Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a bum Simmons.

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<v Speaker 2>Like really, annoying characters just literally click baiting their way

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<v Speaker 2>to ascension off of the demise of Ben, which to

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<v Speaker 2>me is really what's wrong with media. If you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, Like, it's what we aim to stay

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<v Speaker 2>away from here at the heat check, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>All the while though, he just keeps on grinding on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Dpoy top of the list every year he's an All Star.

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<v Speaker 2>He refuses to shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter when.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with the game on the line and the season

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<v Speaker 2>on the line, Ben Simmons will pass. He's that generous

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<v Speaker 2>of a player, but polarizing all the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So where did this all come from? Like for those

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<v Speaker 1>who haven't been.

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<v Speaker 2>Following this league and now the heat Check and me,

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<v Speaker 2>you may not know the full story. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to just break it down very quickly for you. Saga

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<v Speaker 2>started or saga started from where he was drafted. Before that,

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<v Speaker 2>there were scouting reports from twenty sixteen about this Ben's

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<v Speaker 2>lack of competitiessnes in crucial moments.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't say me more.

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<v Speaker 2>The full breakdown says this Simmons quote, lack of competitiveness

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<v Speaker 2>in crucial games has raised questions about his character.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who know him best, tell me more. Say he

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<v Speaker 1>needs things.

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<v Speaker 2>To revolve around him on and off the court, on

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<v Speaker 2>and off the court.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like not a great lover, truthfully.

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<v Speaker 2>And that he's been closed minded to coaching or instruction. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't know what you're doing, and then I'm like, hey, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you try this?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're like, fuck you. Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a problem that is a red flick, But

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<v Speaker 2>seems to me no one could see these red flags.

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<v Speaker 2>Kendall Jenner included fast forward to October nineteenth when she's

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<v Speaker 2>with Devin Booker. Now fast forward to October nineteen, twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>when Tim Bonteps published Ben Simmons Isn't here for your

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<v Speaker 2>three point shooting Revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the headline, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly what it sounds like, a massively detailed description about

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<v Speaker 2>Ben and his defiance around shooting I jump shots of

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<v Speaker 2>any kind, but like more specifically three pointers, and why

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<v Speaker 2>Ben did not give a shit about why anyone, including

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<v Speaker 2>the Sixers organization, thought otherwise. Then April twenty twenty, Jackie

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<v Speaker 2>McMullen brilliantly broke down Ben Simmons.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll call it a mental hang ups.

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<v Speaker 2>That he struggled through dating back to his childhood, where

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<v Speaker 2>she described that coach Brown once told Ben that he

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<v Speaker 2>had to shoot one three a game where he could

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<v Speaker 2>be faced being benched. And then guess what, Ben shot

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<v Speaker 2>less threes that year than the previous year. So he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't open to that level of coaching. Obviously, Bet Brett

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<v Speaker 2>Brown was fired after that. The team did, though, try

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<v Speaker 2>to We'll call it, despite what people would say, despite

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<v Speaker 2>what Ben would say, truthfully, concoct a roster around a

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<v Speaker 2>point guard that doesn't shoot, which is very challenging to do.

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<v Speaker 2>To mitigate all of those spacing issues with Ben and

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<v Speaker 2>Embiide on the court, right, they signed out Horford when

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<v Speaker 2>Ben bitched and moaned and whined about Jimmy Butler maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest leaders and competitive spirits in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>They got rid of Jimmy and they kept Tobias a

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<v Speaker 2>bitch ass.

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<v Speaker 1>He got the.

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<v Speaker 2>Extension and Buckets went to Miami Jojo Joel. Embiid wanted Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben wanted Tobias. Tobias stay. Jimmy went tells you all

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<v Speaker 2>you need to know. Ben wanted an offense to the

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<v Speaker 2>team to throw thro flow through him and not Joel Embiid.

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<v Speaker 1>Friction abound.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, of course, when Daryl Moury got to town, Darryl

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<v Speaker 2>Moury wasn't having any of that bullshit. He tried to

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<v Speaker 2>trade Ben right away, Like try to trade him, too sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>I do not want this bitch running my team. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I want my guy, James Harden tried to trade him

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<v Speaker 2>for James. Then all of a sudden, now Ben knows

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<v Speaker 2>he's not wanted. He's not special. He's not the unique

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<v Speaker 2>unicorn that everybody wants him to be. He's not the

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<v Speaker 2>unique unicorn really that he wants to be known as.

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<v Speaker 2>Right that hit home and hit some We'll call it

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Simmons mental triggers. Things weren't the same ever since then.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, of course in last year's playoffs, when Ben

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<v Speaker 2>tried to pretend, we'll call it he was very concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about having COVID before Game seven, very concerned when he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't need to be concerned, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he was trying to skip Game seven because he

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<v Speaker 2>had gone three consecutive games without attempting a jump shot in.

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<v Speaker 1>The fourth quarter or any shot of any kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, at every turn, Ben was trying to disengage from basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he took just one shot in that quarter of

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<v Speaker 2>the last four games, like I said, And of course

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<v Speaker 2>that one pass to matist Thibel that got him buried

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<v Speaker 2>by Doc Rivers got him buried by Unbid where they

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<v Speaker 2>were they were standing for Ben, and then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden that dissipated and they were like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if he's the championship caliber poyguard.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know for him.

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<v Speaker 2>So then the drama goes into overdrive. He skipped the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>He made it clear that point I'm not playing another

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<v Speaker 2>fucking game for the Sixers ever. Again, Philly fans went insane, Fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben, hate him? What a bum?

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Predictions came true and the crucialist.

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<v Speaker 2>Of moments, as they would say many dominated trade rumors,

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<v Speaker 2>was he gonna go to Minnesota, King's Golden State. There

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<v Speaker 2>were probably ten teams that were in the running for Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>Daryl Moury was like, no, I don't care what these

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<v Speaker 2>offers are. I'm fleecing someone for Ben Simmons. His value

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<v Speaker 2>has never been higher. So Moury was like Cory suggested

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<v Speaker 2>to the Raptors that they should trade Kyle Lowry, Fred

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<v Speaker 2>Van fleet og Ananobi and the fourth overall pick, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was fair. That was a fair trade, and miss

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<v Speaker 2>Iusiery GM of the Raptors is like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>kind of have a lot of guys like Ben Simmons,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys who can't shoot or six'. Ten

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if we need another. ONE a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys can play defense. Too Then maury offered Up

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<v Speaker 2>simmons in a package to The nuggets Involving Jamal murray

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<v Speaker 2>and a bunch of first, rounders leading A denver executive to, say,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey i'm not really sure if that's insulting more To

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<v Speaker 2>jamal or to, us to be, honest, like do you

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<v Speaker 2>think we're fucking? Stupid we all saw what, Happened we

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<v Speaker 2>were all. There so NOW nba executives are Mocking Daryl moury,

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<v Speaker 2>openly all, Right so then it gets.

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<v Speaker 1>Worse team tries to package things.

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<v Speaker 2>Up Joel embiid goes and it's, like, hey we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>fly out to see.

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<v Speaker 1>You let's figure it.

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<v Speaker 2>Out And ben's, like do not even do not even

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<v Speaker 2>try to come, Here LIKE i do not want to

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<v Speaker 2>see your. Face i'm not, playing LIKE i, Said i'm

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<v Speaker 2>not playing another game in A sixers uniform LIKE i

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to tell, you Like i'm. Done so

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<v Speaker 2>then he was holding out until they started finding him crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Money one point four million.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars to date he's been, fined including three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty thousand dollars a game so unannounced out of, nowhere

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<v Speaker 2>no no word in the ether Where ben. Was ben

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<v Speaker 2>just shows up to the, arena just shows, up just

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<v Speaker 2>PICKS covid, test slides in and then played on his

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<v Speaker 2>phone the entire. Time Doc rivers ran a practice and they're, like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>ben can you go off your phone maybe run a

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<v Speaker 2>drill like this is.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about, practice, Practice we talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Practice so then he gets kicked out of practice and

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<v Speaker 2>just like, That Ben simmons has again fully completely hijacked

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<v Speaker 2>all of THE nba universe and The sixer. Season nobody

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<v Speaker 2>gets asked any questions without being asked About. Ben he's

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<v Speaker 2>suspended for the first game of the, season and now

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<v Speaker 2>he's told The, Sixers, Hey i'd love to play basketball for,

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<v Speaker 2>you But i've got this like back. Injury, yeah my

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<v Speaker 2>back really hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>My, neck my, back my neck and my.

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<v Speaker 2>Back multiple sources have told The Philly voice That Ben

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<v Speaker 2>simmons has never had back tightness.

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<v Speaker 1>Before this is a new.

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<v Speaker 2>Currence it's never been mentioned as a problem nor treated

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<v Speaker 2>by team staffers, ever including in the last week and a,

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<v Speaker 2>half and, now which is where we. Are there are

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<v Speaker 2>whispers with probably more truth than the back, injury because

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<v Speaker 2>nobody wants to, say, Hey i'm fucked up in the,

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<v Speaker 2>head LIKE i am struggling with things right now, EMOTIONALLY

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<v Speaker 2>i don't THINK i can play this basketball, thing especially

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<v Speaker 2>in the fan base that is hostile towards. Me too

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<v Speaker 2>many sticks, now not enough carrots For Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons it's a. Shame Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>So sham's reported That Joel mbi directly Asked, ben, hey

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<v Speaker 2>why do you want to, trade And simmons, responded he's

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<v Speaker 2>not feeling mentally himself and needs time to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Right that's probably closer to the. Truth they fucked him.

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<v Speaker 2>Up But Daryl morey gives zero fucks about What ben

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<v Speaker 2>wants or What ben needs or how his brain. Is

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<v Speaker 2>he is not Trading ben until he gets what he,

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<v Speaker 2>wants which is a hard and size. Trade And Bet Daryl,

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<v Speaker 2>moorey in my, opinion he's, like, listen little FUCK i

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<v Speaker 2>will destroy your career and holds you hostage UNTIL i

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<v Speaker 2>don't get a superstar for first. Rounders you weak, minded no,

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<v Speaker 2>skill having, overpaid entitled little, shit play some fucking games

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<v Speaker 2>SO i can get your ass out Of. Philadelphia and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the. Subtext What Daryl morey actually said was people

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<v Speaker 2>should buckle. In it's gonna be a long. Time we

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<v Speaker 2>can Trade Ben simmons for a difference. Maker we will do.

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<v Speaker 2>It you Think i'm, Kidding i'm. Not this could take four.

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<v Speaker 1>Years excuse?

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<v Speaker 2>Me what huh did they say say four? Years this

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<v Speaker 2>is not a day to day. Issue we are in

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<v Speaker 2>the prime Of joelle's. Career, well that would make Trading

0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.760
<v Speaker 2>ben pretty. Urgent every Day we're going to Expect ben

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<v Speaker 2>to be back here or we trade them for a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Maker difference maker is, relative that is in the eye

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<v Speaker 2>of the beholder on who is going to make a.

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<v Speaker 2>Difference then they, Asked, daryl would you rather eliminate what

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<v Speaker 2>people perceive to be a distraction or would you rather

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<v Speaker 2>have better playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Odds darryl then, SAID i.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that was Actually darryl just kind of like hypothesizing

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<v Speaker 2>to the, universe and he SAID i would take the playoff.

0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Odds whatever we need to do that helps The sixers

0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.959
<v Speaker 2>win the, title we will do. It he is ready

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<v Speaker 2>to make shit so, awkward and it is our so.

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<v Speaker 2>Awkward all of this to, say If ben is actually

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<v Speaker 2>mentally done With, philly which LIKE i get, that like

0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you're not doing your, job but, like, honestly they're not

0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.880
<v Speaker 2>doing their, job so you guys are both at fault,

0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.240
<v Speaker 2>truthfully and the fan base is never gonna like him

0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:26.280
<v Speaker 2>no matter what he, does let, alone like if he

0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.840
<v Speaker 2>shoots up and, plays he's gonna get booed all night.

0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Long they probably Hate ben more than they hate any

0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:36.240
<v Speaker 2>other player that's ever been In. Philly if this is

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<v Speaker 2>truly a mental health, issue WHICH i think it, is

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<v Speaker 2>Because i've heard he's terrified.

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<v Speaker 1>Of even being near the, team terrified.

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<v Speaker 2>Like in catatonic, state what point does the league step

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<v Speaker 2>in and Force Daryl morey to take one of these

0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.320
<v Speaker 2>ten trades, right like you have ten, offers they're all pretty,

0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.280
<v Speaker 2>good like they're getting his somebody. Back sacramento has a

0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of. Guards we could steal a switch throo, here

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a first or. Two because if they don't And

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<v Speaker 2>darryl does Allow Ben simmons to just rot or collect

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<v Speaker 2>dust in some random storage, unit which is what he's

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<v Speaker 2>treating him like as like a dining room table you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have room for in your fucking, apartment Like ben

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<v Speaker 2>might actually have cause for a, lawsuit like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>destroy my mental, health keep me, hostage not pay me

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<v Speaker 2>my fucking, money and let me.

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<v Speaker 1>OUT i don't want to be. Here this is a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of mental health.

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<v Speaker 2>Status and THE nba then at that point would probably

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<v Speaker 2>Allow ben to still get paid or they would force a.

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<v Speaker 2>Buyout he might have cause to sue the league as

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<v Speaker 2>a member of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Union and.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like what happened To Dell dumps when he Held

0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Anthony davis, hostage my prediction is That ben gets What

0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.720
<v Speaker 2>ben wants And Darryl moury loses.

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<v Speaker 1>His fucking job for thinking that he's smarter than.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody else and maybe never is AN nba executive.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever, again.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what we call this. League our next, segment

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<v Speaker 2>THE nba seventy five year anniversary is, here and like,

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<v Speaker 2>clockwork people are. Mad there are lists that come out

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<v Speaker 2>when there's a, milestone and at the list, point lists

0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.760
<v Speaker 2>are usually, wrong like because you look at the list

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<v Speaker 2>of those who are voting on the, players they don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know Who Tiny archibald is really, like they just

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<v Speaker 2>put him on the list because they know he's. Important

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<v Speaker 2>you know What i'm, Saying like everybody's grandpa's fucking pissed

0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.720
<v Speaker 2>at this, list and then all the youngsters are pissed as.

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<v Speaker 1>Well Bill simmons squeeted this.

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<v Speaker 2>Out why didn't THE nba just grandfather in the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>at fifty? List and then we have the panel vote

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<v Speaker 2>on twenty five new players for the seventy Five why

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<v Speaker 2>stagger the rollout of the list for three straight days

0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.119
<v Speaker 2>when fifty guys were never?

0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:05.439
<v Speaker 1>Trading this is all so.

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<v Speaker 2>Bizarre and then you've GOT nba players just sitting around

0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:14.000
<v Speaker 2>at the sewing circle shit talking about who got left

0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:15.880
<v Speaker 2>off and who was on that shouldn't have been, on

0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:21.000
<v Speaker 2>mostly because there were only eleven active players who made the.

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<v Speaker 2>List Joannice, Carmelo Steph, Curry, Ad Kevin. Durant don't you

0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Think ad benefited from That Lebron James Mickey mouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Ring if he doesn't have a, ring does he make that? List?

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<v Speaker 2>No Kevin, Durant James, Harden lebron of, Course Kawhi, dame, which, hey,

0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Like dame is a great, Player But, DAME i don't.

0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Know Chris paul And Russell, Westbrook Russell, Westbrook Russell. Westbrook

0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.520
<v Speaker 2>let me tell, You twitter melted down as they always.

0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Do Remember Genie buss named her.

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<v Speaker 2>Top Five lakers of all time and then she left

0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Off shack that was. Crazy or then last year, later

0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.200
<v Speaker 2>doctor j made a first and second Team ALL nba

0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.320
<v Speaker 2>of all time and Left Lebron james off.

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<v Speaker 1>Controversy so what's FUNNY i think about this list is.

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<v Speaker 2>Really the number of current and former players who came

0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.800
<v Speaker 2>out of the blocks, fast and they just Like twitter, fingers,

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<v Speaker 2>like this list is.

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<v Speaker 1>Bullshit let's look at a few of.

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<v Speaker 2>Them so former coach and Executive George, carl who is

0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:42.920
<v Speaker 2>tremendous follow On, twitter came out firing for the Great Alex.

0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.119
<v Speaker 1>English, huh he, said.

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<v Speaker 2>Man of class and, dignity best player In Denver nugget's,

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<v Speaker 2>history leading score of the, eighties not a seventy five

0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:57.879
<v Speaker 2>top seventy five. Player alex is in my, book of

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<v Speaker 2>course he. Is George carl, like all, right you like

0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:03.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't Think Nikola jokics is gonna be the best

0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.760
<v Speaker 2>player In nugget's, history like get out of. Here Richard,

0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.040
<v Speaker 2>jefferson as a lot of people, did came out For Dwight.

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<v Speaker 1>Howard he, Said i'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Not discuss who should be left off the, list BUT

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<v Speaker 2>i do want to discuss That Dwight howard has been

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<v Speaker 2>disrespected and he should be.

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<v Speaker 1>ON i Love Richard.

0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Jefferson Spencer dinwid he, agreed Noting Dwight howard was. Snubbed

0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Pat beverley went in For Tony, parker, tweeting, No Tony

0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:32.480
<v Speaker 2>parker a, winner y'all Trippin' and of Course draymond was

0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.840
<v Speaker 2>upset at the list because he wasn't on the. List,

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<v Speaker 2>Really he, said, Yeah i'll keep building on my resume

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<v Speaker 2>and expressed optimism he'll be top one hundred and twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>YEARS i, mean who cares at that?

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<v Speaker 2>POINT i, MEAN i think that the list really matters

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<v Speaker 2>when you're, playing like when you're young enough to enjoy these,

0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:55.080
<v Speaker 2>accolades like if.

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<v Speaker 1>You're fifty, five this list doesn't really mean much. Honestly

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<v Speaker 1>but you know who was by far the. Angriest Clay.

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<v Speaker 2>Thompson, yeah he gets very upset about these, things so

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.639
<v Speaker 2>upset that he even knows that it's an irrational level of,

0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 2>anger like he. Knows he tweeted out the night and

0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:17.399
<v Speaker 2>the final twenty five were. Released Maybe i'm just naive

0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.120
<v Speaker 2>in my ability to play, basketball but in my Head

0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:24.080
<v Speaker 2>i'm top seventy of all. Time steph said that adds

0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:28.600
<v Speaker 2>fuel To clay's. Fire and Then, clay still not being

0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.160
<v Speaker 2>able to get this whole thing out of his, mind

0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:31.600
<v Speaker 2>probably was dreaming about it all.

0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Night he literally got.

0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.919
<v Speaker 2>Up out of, bed rolled out of, bed got On,

0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:39.720
<v Speaker 2>instagram created a, post little text on, screen just to

0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:41.480
<v Speaker 2>get his feelings out through the, world and he, said

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.800
<v Speaker 2>woke up this morning still thinking about this stupid ass.

0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:50.800
<v Speaker 1>List maybe not everybody loves winning as much as.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and you're, like, yeah that's, True like not everybody

0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 2>is maniacally like dedicated to making every single fucking list

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 2>from every relevant team of. Journalists, yes you're on the, List, Clay, like,

0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:08.440
<v Speaker 2>truthfully you're on the real. List he's got too, Much,

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:09.879
<v Speaker 2>clay he's got too much time on his.

0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Hands he's coming, back he's, Rehabbing he's gonna continue talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this to. Me here are some of the players

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<v Speaker 1>left off the.

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<v Speaker 2>List there are three guys who have made over Six

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<v Speaker 2>ALL nba teams and did not make the. List Paul,

0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:26.320
<v Speaker 2>George tracy, McGrady Dwight. Howard those are egregious. MISSES i,

0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.280
<v Speaker 2>mean like somebody pointed this out On twitter and they,

0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.720
<v Speaker 2>said do you think anyone would really miss any of

0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.840
<v Speaker 2>those milkmen from the nineteen fifties if you replace, them like,

0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Say Dolph shase With Dwight.

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<v Speaker 1>Howard do you think anyone would say a fucking? Peep, No,

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 1>NO i.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't even know If i'm pronouncing This Dolph shay's name, correctly,

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 2>truthfully couldn't be couldn't be.

0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Positive like sounds like. Dolphin does it sound Like? DOLPH

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<v Speaker 1>i don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know and of course there were other misses, Too, Jokic Vince,

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 2>carter of, Course Dennis, rodman of, Course Gary payton gets so,

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Disrespected Paul pierce And Tony. Parker who do you think

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<v Speaker 2>was snubbed off The ALL nba top seventy?

0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Five and?

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<v Speaker 2>Why all, Right, brock let's get into some news around the.

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<v Speaker 1>League let's start In.

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<v Speaker 2>MIAMI i have a, question has anyone scoring five points

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:30.200
<v Speaker 2>been more impactful to their new team in one game

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<v Speaker 2>faster Than Kyle?

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<v Speaker 1>LOWRY i mean he's already like they.

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<v Speaker 2>Just bleue Out, milwaukee blue them out by forty two.

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:42.480
<v Speaker 1>POINTS i Have milwaukee on the money.

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<v Speaker 2>LINE i tell you, what that was a bet dead

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 2>faster than you could see say dead like it was so.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad the stat lion was. Bizarre lowry was one for,

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Eight he.

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<v Speaker 2>Had five points six rebounds in twenty four, minutes and

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<v Speaker 2>yet The heat won by forty. Two LIKE i said

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.199
<v Speaker 2>against defending champs that everybody thinks is going to be

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.879
<v Speaker 2>able to be the favorite to go back to the,

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 2>finals and they just Dogwalked. Brooklyn so, like are The

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<v Speaker 2>heat the king of The? East if you're, overreacting the

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.479
<v Speaker 2>answer is. Yes DO i need to remind you that

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 2>The bucks swept The heat in the first round last.

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:25.919
<v Speaker 2>Year this was the Largest heat victory in the last

0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:31.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty five. Seasons, wow biggest loss ever for The bucks

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 2>by Under Mike, budenholzer second biggest in his coaching. Career

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 2>and you may, Say, trista what about that huge loss

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 2>to The Brooklyn nets at home where they led by

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:45.120
<v Speaker 2>fifty at one.

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Point, no they ended up.

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Losing only only by thirty nine in that, game so

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 2>this was even more. Gross lowry was plus twenty two

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 2>in the first quarter when The heat went up by

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty three.

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:01.160
<v Speaker 1>And never look.

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<v Speaker 2>Back so the question is why is a guy who

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.479
<v Speaker 2>only had five points being so celebrated after the blowout went?

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Well because even Though miami has an amazing, Culture Kyle

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.639
<v Speaker 2>lowry is already changing the culture of The heat in

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 2>a good. Way and it all started by him basically

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 2>strong arming The raptors into going where the Fuck kyle

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go how he wanted to. Go in an

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 2>interview With The New York, Times lowry noted his departure

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:34.160
<v Speaker 2>From toronto was quote unquote. Mutual we all mutually. Agreed

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 2>he said that it was. Time hard to put into,

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 2>words it was just time for. ME i knew With

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>miami it was the right, situation right, timing right, place.

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Right people write. Everything and if you think.

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.160
<v Speaker 2>When he says it was mutual and it was all kombay,

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Ah kyle said, this it. Wasn't sometimes franchises have to

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.639
<v Speaker 2>do what's best for them, them which means Trade kyle

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 2>for more assets. Somewhere kyle didn't want to, go, right

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 2>BUT I kyle was in a position WHERE i had

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 2>say AND i had a little bit OF i wouldn't say,

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:19.400
<v Speaker 2>power BUT i had a little bit Of, listen it's

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 2>not gonna be a good look if we don't collaborate

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 2>on this. Together what a, thug what a? Gangster that

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 2>is what we call a. Threat that is what we

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Call Kyle lowry being, like.

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<v Speaker 1>We can do this the easy, way or we can

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>do this the hard.

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:39.959
<v Speaker 2>Way Maybe i'll just tell this new team that you

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 2>trade me, To i'm never signing with you and they

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 2>won't do the. Deal or maybe you can wait in

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>the off season trade me To, miami which is WHERE

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 2>i want to. Go this is What dame did In

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.439
<v Speaker 2>portland and he, said, Hey i'm gonna get.

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>WHAT i, want Or i'm gonna go out And i'm

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna make a, stick put pound my little feet on the.

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 2>FLOOR a good look at the guy who got you

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>At chip In toronto With, kawhi which is the reason

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 2>that it ended up getting you one gets squeezed out a.

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Legend, Literally drake and him are best. Friends it wouldn't be.

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 2>A good look If trudeau is, like, hey This Kyle

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:22.199
<v Speaker 2>lowry thing is fucked up right bad. Bad back To

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 2>game one of The heat, Season Kyle lowry basically Filated

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>lowry at the, postgame SAYING i love playing With. Kyle

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 2>back To game one of The heat, Season Tyler, hero,

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>who by the way we talked, about has been not

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 2>the same Since Jack.

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Carlow he's Been tyler, zero we'll call. Him he had

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 1>an amazing Game game one and.

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Philated lowry as at the post, game basically saying he

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 2>was responsible for his. Success he, SAYS i love playing With.

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Kyle my first two years in the, LEAGUE i didn't

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>have a point.

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Guard that is so.

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Disrespectful that's no knock on my former, Teammates yes it,

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 2>is but being next to him is amazing for. Me

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>even one of the most cantankerous hard rocks in the,

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 2>League Jimmy, butler is, LIKE.

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.199
<v Speaker 1>I get to focus on putting the ball in the

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>basket With. KYLE i like. THAT i don't know Why

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 1>i'm saying like.

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 2>This With, KYLE i think playing the way that he

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>plays it gives everybody the ability to just. Hoop But

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>butler was not done for Lating, kyle his.

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Boy this is what he. Said that's my.

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 4>Guy it's definitely a blessing to share the floor with.

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 4>Him everybody knows how much LOVE i have for, him

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 4>but more than anything of them up to my daughter

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 4>birthday is tomorrow AND i want a really expensive gift

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 4>one hundred thousand Plus kyle one hundred. Thousand she needs. That, yeah,

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 4>DAMN i ass one hundred. Thousand, Thanks, Yes, kyle one hundred.

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 4>Thousand i'm not going.

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Around that is an expensive ass.

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>GIFT i, mean let's face, It jimmy does not like

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 2>sharing the floor with almost. Anyone he Told Karl Anthony,

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 2>towns you are soft as baby, shit and that was

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>after he left the team with.

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Them he literally was was that a?

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Dog he literally was coming After kat for like. Months

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 2>so for him to Give Kyle lowry that level of, praise.

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>It's.

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Impactful he fucking Loves Kyle. Lowry it's Now Kyle lowry's.

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Team and this is a guy who scored five. Points

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>this is why how he changes the culture. Overnight and

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 2>this is why a team like The pelicans and The,

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 2>sixers this is why teams like The pelicans another, Flub

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>this is why teams like The pelicans and The sixers

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 2>were willing to mortgage their future For.

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Kyle pretty.

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Simple SO i talked last show About Jason kidd and

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 2>how he was perfectly primed to mentor Not, luca But

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Christas porzingis And TikTok came all over.

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Me they were, Like, trista remember you were Burning.

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Jason kidd about his Insane Christmas eve practice when he

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>literally broke players, down causing to leave the league all.

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Together and he was basically an insane. Person you came

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 2>after him for. That where is your change of tune coming?

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>From to?

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 2>THAT i, say people, change AND i say this mostly

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 2>BECAUSE i know That Jason kidd did.

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Change that is exactly what he. Did and here is.

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Why according to a new, Article Joe varden said, This

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Jason kidd has changed his coaching style and there is

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 2>a very specific reason.

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Why let's rewind When.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Jason When Jason kidd was hired to coach The Dallas

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 2>mavericks after we'll call it an insane amount of. Dysfunction

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 2>it coincided with that New jannis. Biography the launch of

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the book was hijacked by some unflattering stories About Jason

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 2>kitt like that insane.

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Practice LIKE i think there were some references to water.

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Parks some of that was, true some of that was not,

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>true fat, shaming it was, Insane it was. Insane and

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 2>that was at this point When jannis was, just you,

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>know a humble kid From, greece trying to make it

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 2>in the, leak trying to figure out how to get

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>to The Bradley center running when he had no, money

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 2>just catching a.

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Ride from some Random bucks.

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Fan So i'm not going to get into how he

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>ran these brutal, practices how he made the team practice

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>On Christmas, eve made him change. Flights BUT i did

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 2>talk about what all that meant for The MAVs and

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 2>How kid would have to change his coaching style if

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to. Succeed So kid said, THIS i am

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 2>a different coach.

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>From WHEN i was In brooklyn And.

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee IF i, WASN'T i would have never gotten this.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Opportunity that's a pretty blunted. Mission i'd say it is

0:30:59.520 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>an explt.

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Nation why he changes that, matters he, Said i'm just

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 2>understanding this is not life or.

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Death everything. Counts i'm understanding.

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>That, better But i'm a lot more. Relaxed the butterflies

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 2>are not as. Big it's about having fun and communicating

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>with the guys about what they really want to.

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Achieve it's almost like there's more than basketball out.

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 2>There it's almost like winning a ring is not nearly

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 2>as important AS i don't know a player's mental.

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Health don't run guys into the.

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Ground Jason, kidd where did he come by this new

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>found sense Of Zenbrock.

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Frank. VOGEL i, mean that is a. Shocker that is

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>WHAT i did not.

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Expect, truthfully turns out the main reason That Jason kidd

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>took The lakers. Job, remember there was a lot of

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 2>people who thought That Jason kidd was trying to Push

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Frank vogel.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Out he was just there And Frank vogel.

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Was like a, figurehead and Then Jason kidd was gonna

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 2>snake his way into the front office or into the

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 2>head coaching. Spot but, no it was to do something

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 2>he had never done learn on the job as an.

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Assistant it's almost like that's an important. Thing Steve, nash

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>despite that's a ricochet, Shot i'm. Sorry despite people claiming

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>he'd Torpedo vogel in his two, years he never once did,

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 2>that and he was rewarded BY i don't, know a

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 2>championship in the, bubble and Then vogel And kid became.

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Tight and now that he's In, dallas apparently him And

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 2>luca are like.

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Besties he said, This me And luca are dating right.

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Now as a joke, obviously but as all, relationships you

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>got to get a lot of ws for it to work.

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Right things are all fun and.

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Games when there is no games that you've played, yet

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 2>it's all, hope it's all. Aspirations you start losing like

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 2>you did against The hawks on opening night by twenty,

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 2>six and that means you might have to do some.

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Tweaking that means we're gonna have to see keep our

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>eye on things when things aren't going, right because.

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>The maps have high.

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Hopes AND i tell you, What luca wants to win

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>as much as. ANYBODY i think it is life and

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 2>death To. Luca did you See Steph? Curry he put

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 2>on a show last, night followed up one of his

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>worst shooting performances five for twenty one in an opening

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 2>night victory over The lakers with one of his. Best

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>scored twenty five points in the first quarter along the

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 2>way to a forty five point. Night he made his

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>first nine, shots ended up eight for thirteen from three.

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>SSH i mean we should have expected that kind of.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Night like That's, Steph like any Bad steph performance always

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>comes with a Good steph. Performance Even, dre who sees

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 2>a ton Of, steph said in the, Postgame steph didn't

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 2>miss a shot today in shoot, around so we knew

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>it was. Coming but he could have missed every shot

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 2>in the shoot around AND i still would have known

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 2>it was, coming he. Said so With golden stayed out

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 2>to a two and oh, start the world is Like.

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 2>Trista you are an idiot Calling Golden state frauds and

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 2>saying they would not make the, playoffs saying that they

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 2>had struggle and issues with their depth and their young

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 2>guys couldn't do.

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Anything do you see what they're getting from their young?

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Guys and to, THAT i, say you are not watching the.

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 2>GAME i will not recant my. STATEMENT i am even

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 2>more firmly committed to this. Stance here's. Why the game

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 2>against The clippers showed exactly why this year is so

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 2>tenuous for The. Warriors despite a historic game For steph

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>where the entire team went twenty six for thirty from the,

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 2>field ten for seventeen from, three with just under five

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 2>minutes left in the, half they were. Down.

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Warriors you, down, down, down down, Down how is that?

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Possible not only can this team not Defend they cannot

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 2>find a consistent number.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>TWO i hate to say, it it's. True Jordan, poole who.

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Was supposed to be their, savior was four for, fourteen

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 2>one for six from three including back to back. Airballs

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 2>beelichia had, Eight, Otto porter Non factor had, Four Jan

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Toscano anderson only had. Three wiggins had AN ok night at,

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 2>seventeen like they have no one else But steph be

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 2>very very, clear they ended up down. One CANNOT i

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>cannot express how fucked up this. Is you are going

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 2>to have to See steph BE mvp staff every night

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 2>for them to be.

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Competitive they had almost no answers from The clippers small ball.

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Lineup most people, don't and it showed that glaring weakness

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>in this. Team they can't defend their benches old and

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 2>young like too many old, guys too many two young,

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 2>guys full of league minimum, guys and none of them

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 2>can really be counted. On Andrew wiggins. Included and that's

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 2>not even talking About Andrew wiggins in the, playoffs and

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 2>he is gone, awful which means this is now the,

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 2>dude do do do Do Steph curry Circus, right it's

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 2>him and only. Him he's gonna have to Be superman

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 2>And batman And Iron Man Spider man pretty much every single.

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Night and if this team wants to get to fifty,

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 2>wins he's gonna have to have one of his best

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 2>nights of his career every single.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Night and we Know Steve kerr doesn't like to Play

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>steph a lot of.

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Minutes he likes to limit him to thirty five to thirty,

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 2>seven and that Means steph's gonna have.

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>To do it faster all the.

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Time all of this to, SAY i think these two

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.800
<v Speaker 2>games actually prove To Bob myers in the front office

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 2>they need to make a. Move Steph curry is going

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:27.839
<v Speaker 2>to do everything he has and his power to, win

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 2>and they need to make that move now Before steph

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 2>gets run into the, ground or Before steph gets, disgruntled

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 2>or before other players Like draymond who just injured his,

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 2>wrist Or Andre gudala who just injured himself as.

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Well and then who.

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 2>Knows, right they're one role player injury away from.

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Disaster so who should they trade? For Maybe Ben. Simmons,

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>yes incredible.

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 2>That we start this show and end this show with

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 2>mister balloon, Hand but here we.

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Are Trade.

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 2>DRAYMOND i know that's his tough. Stretch maybe put them

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.800
<v Speaker 2>on the. Bench they can't play. Together it's Like Russell

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 2>westbrook And. LEBRON i don't know what they're gonna do With.

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 2>DRAYMOND i don't think they can share the floor. Together

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:14.880
<v Speaker 2>BUT i tell you, What ben would help this. TEAM

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 2>i could see trading For Ben simmons kind of like

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 2>how trading For Paul george was for The. Clippers Like

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 2>clippers overpaid because the situation called for. It AND i

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 2>think The warriors are in a similar. Situation they need

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>to get, someone and they need to get.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Them, now that's all the time that we have for

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:34.439
<v Speaker 1>the Heat check.

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.399
<v Speaker 2>Podcast we will be On monday night to recap all

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