1 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Well, good evening everyone, Welcome to Stinchfield. I guess it's 2 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: official now. Elon Musk is leaving. He announced that he 3 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: will be leaving DOGE. His time as a special government 4 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: employee is over. So the question now becomes what will 5 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: happen to DOZE. Certainly it continues, but then the question 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: become will it get the respect that it did with 7 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Elon Musk at the HELM. 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: I think the. 9 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Answer to that question is someplace in the middle. Here's 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Caroline levi Att, the president spokesperson, talking about Elon's departure. 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: The entire cabinet understands the need to cut government waste 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: for aud in abuse, and each Cabinet secretariat their respective 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: agencies is committed to that. That's why they were working 14 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: hand in hand with Elon Musk. And they'll continue to 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: work with the respective DOGE employees who have onboarded as 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: political appointees at all of these agencies. So surely the 17 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: mission of DOGE will continue. And many DOGE employees are 18 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: now political appointees and employees of our government, and the 19 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: best of my knowledge, all of them intend to stay. 20 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: And that's very good news. 21 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,279 Speaker 1: These kids, i'll call them kids, they're wiz Kids for sure. 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: And they went in and they did what many of 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: the government employees couldn't. 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: Or wouldn't do for decades, and that is root out 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: the waste, fraud and abuse. So you could make an 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: argument that maybe with Elon gone, those will be able 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: to get more work done without Elon as a distraction. 28 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: As we all know, Elon is probably enemy number two 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: to the left next to President Trump, as you see 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: there on the screen. So with him gone, maybe those 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: can quietly do their work. Right, this is Dana Ash 32 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: talking about dose. You know where the left stand on 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: all this. 34 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: Was it really about just cutting waste fraud and abuse? 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: No, I mean it just wasn't. 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 5: It was about. 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: Making some specific cuts, ideological. 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 6: Cuts, cultural places where they had cultural difference. 39 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: Wasn't about waste run abuse. She's just political. Well, I've 40 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: got the prush's wrong. I just got off of the 41 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: Doze official website. I urge you all to peruse it. 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: They literally put up the contracts that they cancel. They 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: put up the receipts of the waste fraud and abuse 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: that they cancel. How about a two point nine billion 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: dollar contract for the Refugee Resettlement Division of the Department 46 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: of the Interior to one vendor to take care of 47 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: unaccompanied minors two point nine billion dollars over the border 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: shut down. 49 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: We don't need that anymore. 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: That's not about being political, that's about getting rid of 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: what we don't need done. Or eight billion dollar contract 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: canceled to Deloitte, a consulting firm. 53 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: Oh wait, you think that's a lot. 54 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: How about one point four billion to accenture also for 55 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: consulting with the hundreds of thousands of government employees. We 56 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: can't figure out how to take care of our own business. 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: You got to hire outside consultants at a rate like that, 58 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: I don't think so. The total savings is one hundred 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: and seventy five billion dollars, and yet the media continues 60 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: to lie about the reality of Doze. 61 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: Check this out. 62 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: I have no problem believing that a lot of the 63 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: Doze bros were smarter than the people they were dealing with. 64 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: But the people they were dealing with knew how their 65 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 4: institutions worked, they knew how the process worked, and these 66 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: guys didn't. And I think it's set back the argument 67 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: about waste, fraud and abuse in government, which is legit. 68 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: So because they didn't find what they were so confident 69 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: they were going to find because they didn't know how. 70 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: To look for it. That's a flat out lie. 71 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: What we found was outrageous, maddening millions of dollars studying 72 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: transgender mice. You've got forty two million dollars to the 73 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Agency for Global Media to broadcast in Eastern Europe. Excuse me, 74 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty two million dollars. Didn't find what 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: they were looking for. I think they were shocked at 76 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: what they found. At least guys like Stuart Varney see 77 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: the reality of it all. 78 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 7: So what is Musk's legacy? 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: In my opinion? 80 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 7: He gave Donald Trump a shot of energy and intensity 81 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 7: that even the president found hard to match. He jumpstarted 82 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 7: Trump's second term from day one. His doze youngsters stormed 83 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 7: through the federal brocracy. He found that only a tiny 84 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 7: minoritive federal workers actually showed up at the office. 85 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: He was amazing. 86 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 7: He identified startling waste and inefficiency. He outed outrageous spending. 87 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 7: He asked where did all the billions go and did 88 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 7: not get a satisfactory answer. In short, he shook up 89 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 7: government like nobody ever had before. 90 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: I agree, now those folks it is up to Congress. 91 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: It is up to Congress because President Trump can't do 92 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: it all through executive orders, and executive orders aren't permanent. Now, 93 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: as we showed you yesterday, the halls of Congress are empty. 94 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: Congress is on vacation. I wish they were working on 95 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 1: doge bills. 96 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: There's not. 97 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: But there is one man who never sleeps, one man 98 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: who never stops working. Our buddy out in Tennessee, Republican Congress, 99 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: and Tim Burchett, he's with us this afternoon. 100 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: Tim, welcome to. 101 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 8: The program at home. 102 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 9: As you can believe that Washington is just a big 103 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 9: sewer and nothing gets done up there. 104 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 8: So I'm actually I started early this morning and I just. 105 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 9: Finished, and I'm working on my dog pen. 106 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 8: He keeps escaping. 107 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 6: Right. 108 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Well, look, there are important things to do. You want 109 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: to make sure your dog doesn't run away. What most 110 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: people don't know is my Golden Retriever actually sits next 111 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: to me during this program, so he's trapped in the 112 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: studio with me. Listen, though important subjects. Those people complained 113 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: that dose cuts weren't in the big beautiful bill. We 114 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: get all kinds of excuses of why that couldn't happen legally. 115 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: Not legally. Okay, fine, we're past that. What about those bills? 116 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 1: Why haven't we seen any Congressman? Will we see any? 117 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 8: Because we don't have any guts. 118 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 9: We finally brought it to the national media and everybody's attention. 119 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 9: You and I have talked about this on ad nauseum. 120 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 9: I was able to ask President Trump a question at 121 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 9: our conference meeting we had a couple of weeks fromgo, 122 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 9: when he was. 123 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 8: Lobbying is to push the big Beautiful bill. 124 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 9: I was allowed to ask the first question and I said, 125 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 9: I said, when do you think can you get Congress 126 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 9: off their asked and start codifying some of your pets 127 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 9: that you put out in your executive order? And man, 128 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 9: it was classic Donald Trump. He went through that like 129 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 9: a dose assaults. He let us have it, and then 130 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 9: of course I knew it'd be leaked to the press 131 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 9: and it was as it always is, and it kind 132 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 9: of lit the fire, I think, and people are talking 133 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 9: about it a lot more now. It is a disgrace 134 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 9: that we have it. And I know what leadership's going 135 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 9: to say. They're going to say, virtue, we don't have 136 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 9: the votes for some of these things. Well, you know what, 137 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 9: put it up for a vote, and if they can't 138 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 9: have the guts to vote for it. 139 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 8: Then they need to be out of office. 140 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 9: If NPR, if we are giving them one red cent 141 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 9: and the people in North Carolina are still struggling after 142 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 9: Hurricane Helene, you know, just go down the list of 143 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 9: the craziness. 144 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 8: Ten million dollars for circumcisions. 145 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 9: I guess it's voluntary, but do you honestly believe that 146 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,119 Speaker 9: that money is getting there? Elon Musk made a pretty 147 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 9: good case, and I hope the Justice Department follows up 148 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 9: on it. 149 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 8: I'm going to I'm not a lawyer. I'm going to 150 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 8: talk to this figure out how to get them on it. 151 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 9: But he thought that there was a paper trail going 152 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 9: right back to Washington. Now you know good and well 153 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 9: that dark money campaigns are funded through things like this. 154 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 9: I have a bill that deals with defunding the Taliban 155 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 9: million a week the State Department through their through a memo, 156 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 9: I five page memo I have since we've given them 157 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 9: close to five billion. This is the Taliban people we 158 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 9: fought in Americans gued fighting for. They throw homosexuals off buildings. 159 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 9: They they rape women and children and then they stone 160 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 9: the women. You know, this is this is the people 161 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 9: we're sending. We're sending forty million dollars a week too. 162 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 9: And the reason we're doing it because the NGOs. Do 163 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 9: you to have any idea how many NGOs are operating 164 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 9: out of Afghanistan right now? 165 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: I have no idea, But I can only imagine just. 166 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 9: A little less than one thousand, one thousand non government 167 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 9: organizations that are going that they're getting our money right now. 168 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 9: It's going to the UN and their state Department and 169 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 9: other departments. You know, it's look, this is this is 170 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 9: the tip of the iceberg. They out to pend a 171 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 9: metal on Elon musk Is on his chest. These these 172 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 9: lunatics on the left that are defending this crazy expenditures. 173 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 9: The reason they are because the money's not going there, 174 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 9: it's going to Washington, it's paying it's paying congress members. Listen, 175 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 9: I don't care about Republican or Democrat. I hope to 176 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 9: see them in cuffs. I hope they take them, drag 177 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 9: them out of the dead gum capital, and I will 178 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 9: applaud them. I will go get a selfie with them 179 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 9: as they're crying their tears, because I'm sick of this 180 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 9: stuff we're stealing from the American public. We are you 181 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 9: are every personal listeners ought to call their Thomas Thing said, 182 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 9: I want those cuts on. I want you to vote. 183 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 9: Start voting on them every dead gum week. Stop with 184 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 9: the nonsense. I don't care who it embarrasses. We got 185 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 9: to stop this stuff. We will lose our country. 186 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: Well, well, you would think that when when members of 187 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: Congress here's things like you just laid out those NGOs 188 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan and then you talk about money going directly 189 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: to the Taliban. I promise you Republicans and Democrats of 190 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: the like or were making money off of this in Washington, 191 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: this old school, good old boy club. 192 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: And I'm with you. 193 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: If you're a dirty politician, I don't care if Democrat 194 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: or Republican throw you in jail, because it's not what 195 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: the American taxpayer asked for. I think there's a there's 196 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: a problem with Congress. And I was thinking about this 197 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: and it just came to me out loud on my 198 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: podcast this afternoon. I realize what what members of Congress 199 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: have an absolute fear of. And it's very simple, Congressman, 200 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: it's voting. They hate to vote. They don't want to 201 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: vote on anything. They don't want to be held accountable. 202 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: You've got to vote. They want to run the other direction. 203 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: Am I right? 204 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 8: You're one hundred percent right. That's why you see all 205 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 8: these reporting bills. 206 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 9: You bring a tough bill to a committee and guess 207 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 9: what the lobbyist have some one of the fifty or 208 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 9: so odd staffers on the committee have got has got 209 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 9: their ear and they and they can the bill and 210 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 9: they send it back to you know, we can't pass this. 211 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 9: The chairman will say, oh, my staff won't let us 212 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 9: pass this. Who gives a rip about what the staff thinks? 213 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 9: The lobby they're in bed with the with the dead 214 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 9: gum lobbyist. Listen, this thing is crooked. We need to 215 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 9: shake it out Washington. Everybody wants to pick and choose 216 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 9: what they want to take out. 217 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 8: Washington. DC is a trash. 218 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 9: Can turn it upside down and put a dad gum 219 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 9: garden's on it. 220 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 8: Let's clean it out America. 221 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: Waita, I want to play one more clip, and America 222 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: does need to wake up. 223 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: I'm with you, Congressman. 224 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: This is Caroline Leavitt talking about the Big Beautiful Bill 225 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: and the Congressional Budget Office. After this clip, I've got 226 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: a couple thoughts about the CBO, and I want to 227 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: get you to weigh in on this roll cut nine guys. 228 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: The blatantly wrong claim that the One Big Beautiful Bill 229 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: increases the deficit is based on the Congressional Budget Office 230 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: and other scorekeepers who use shoddy assumptions and have historically 231 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: been terrible at forecasting across Democrat and Republican administrations alike. 232 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: Between the common sense spending reforms contained in the One 233 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: Big Beautiful Bill and the robust economic growth that will 234 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: be generated as a result of it, there will be 235 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: no increase to the deficit. 236 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 5: The same analysis from the CEA. 237 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: Shows just how this historic package will unleash prosperity and 238 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 3: ignite a blue collar boom across America. 239 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: All right, Congressman, I've been saying this for a long time. 240 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: The CBO Congressional Budget Office does not take into account 241 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: dynamic scoring that lowering taxes spurs the economy. 242 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: You get more revenue. 243 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: Coming in, and then we're saving four billion dollars a day. 244 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: According to Elon Musk. If you look at his numbers, 245 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: I believe they're correct. Why isn't that used to calculate 246 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: into budget deficits that's not used. 247 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: And finally, if you cut three billion. 248 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: Dollars of waste from an agency, why the next time 249 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: around do you not just say, well, you don't get 250 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: that three billion the next year and that instantly comes 251 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: out of your budget. Everybody tells me it's more complicated 252 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: than that grant, is it, Congressman. 253 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 8: No, it is not. 254 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 9: The CBO is a Democratic extension of the Democrat Party. 255 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 9: We're in the majority. Dfund the dadgum cdo the Congressional 256 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 9: Budget Office. Nobody cares back home. 257 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 8: I guarantee you. 258 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 9: I've walked the streets of any any major metropolitan city 259 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 9: and say what's the CEO. 260 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 8: And they'll say they have something to do with the 261 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 8: Charlie Daniels band. I don't know. 262 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 9: Look, nobody knows what the CBO is. It's it's another 263 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 9: and it's a it's a it's a dinosaur. It's probably 264 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 9: brought in during the New. 265 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 8: Deal or something. They use old dynamics. We need to 266 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 8: get rid of it. It's ridiculous. 267 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 9: Again, another bureaucracy we do not have the guts to 268 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 9: get rid of because that bunch in Washington is so compromised. 269 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 9: They got friends over there and they deal with them. 270 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 9: Oh we can't do that. Oh I can't scree from who? 271 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 8: From who? 272 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 9: Run a poll and see what America thinks about the CBO. 273 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 9: Nobody knows what it is, nobody listens to what it is. 274 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 9: Let's get rid of it. You're exactly right. 275 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: Well, amen to that consent, Burchet. 276 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: You get back out to making sure your dog is 277 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: safe and doesn't run away from you. I know there's 278 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: some parts of Tennessee you can sit on your front 279 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: porch and watch your dog run away for three days. 280 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if you have the hills or not, 281 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: but well I appreciate you. 282 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 9: I got sixty acres. Old Ross goes back with me. 283 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 9: He goes out, name Dudini. He comes back. He's he's 284 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 9: been hit by two cars and maul by bear and 285 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 9: Agiam Roscoe. He just comes back for more. 286 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: Allright, Well, we'll say some prayers for you and for 287 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: old Houdini. 288 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: There as well. Congressman, it's great to have you on 289 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: the program. 290 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 8: Thank you, Thank you. Brother keeps freading the truth. 291 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we never stop, and it's grateful. We're grateful that 292 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: you come on and help us do that. Nobody really 293 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: does it like Congress and Burch I tell you, I 294 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: love it when we have that guy on the program 295 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: because he tells it straight. You notice the theme on 296 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: this program though, the members of Congress that we have 297 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: on here, they're all pretty straight shooters, and it's usually 298 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: about the same crew of about eight or nine of them. 299 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: Nobody else wants to come on because they're all afraid 300 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: of my questions. Uh not Birching and Boberd and and 301 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: Ogles and and Bigs and the rest of them. 302 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: They're good. They're good people, all right, folks. 303 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: Moving on though, Senate Republicans now say they're going to 304 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: open an investigation into who's responsible for the Biden decline 305 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: cover up and ultimately who was running the White House. 306 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: John Cornyn not a guy I'm a fan of. 307 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: In fact, I'm rooting for Ken Paxton, who's running against 308 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: him in a primary right here in my home state 309 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: of Texas, to win. 310 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: But he went on with Will Kine this. 311 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: Afternoon talking about this new investigation. 312 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: Watch. 313 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 10: Well, we need to get past the failures of the media, 314 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 10: which were legend as you've pointed out, or the political 315 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 10: issue of where you for Biden or against Biden. This 316 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 10: is about a constitutional crisis where we basically have an incompetent, 317 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 10: mentally incompetent president who's not in charge. So the question 318 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 10: is who is in charge? Whose finger is on the 319 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 10: nuclear button or that has a nuclear codes, who can 320 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 10: declare war? How do we defend the nation when we 321 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 10: have basically an absent president and those are constitutional issues 322 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 10: we need to address and correct. 323 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, an absent president whose staffers were using an auto 324 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: pen that I am now convinced they were selling off 325 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: the benefits of that auto pen, like pardons and. 326 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: Things like that. How much were they selling for? 327 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: Who was behind it, who had control auto pen, who 328 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: was signing legislation into law, who was nominating judges? For 329 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: crying out loud? All of it needs to be found out. 330 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Back to the corruption in Washington. We now have Cash 331 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: Bettel and Dan Bongino inside the FBI. 332 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: Many people are criticizing them. 333 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: I believe they have their reasons why we're not getting Oh, 334 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: I would say the complete story or the story we want. 335 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,119 Speaker 1: But this was somewhat of a bombshell that Dan Bongino 336 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: released on Fox and Friends this morning, talking about room 337 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: full of evidence they knew nothing about inside the FBI headquarters. 338 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: Watch this. 339 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 11: Luckily, there are a lot of people up there who 340 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 11: grabbed us by the arm. The mid we came in 341 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 11: and said thank you for being here. You know, we 342 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 11: need to talk. There are people there who are really 343 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 11: horrified at what happened. And there was a room and 344 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 11: we found stuff, a lot of a hidden room. I 345 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 11: wouldn't call it hidden, but hidden from us at least 346 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 11: and not mentioned to us. And then we found stuff 347 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 11: in there and a lot of it's from the Komi era. 348 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 11: And we are working our damn this right now to 349 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 11: declassify all. 350 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: Right, A lot of what they talk about is working 351 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: to release the files to us, and we get all 352 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: caught up in this well. I want the files. I 353 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: want the Epstein files. I want to know who was 354 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: having sex with miners. Why was only Epstein and Maxwell charged? 355 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: The others should be charged as well. So whether Epstein 356 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: killed himself or not, I don't know. Does it really 357 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: matter at this point. I want to know who was involved. 358 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: Maybe there's reasons we can't know. As opposed to this 359 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: hidden room evidence hidden the Russian collusion oaks. I want 360 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: people held accountable. Do I want to see the evidence, yes, 361 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: But what I really want is accountability for those who 362 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: perpetrated treason on America and listening to Dan and Cash, 363 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: two men that I have the utmost respectful. I would 364 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: call both of them friends. And if they say something, 365 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: they mean it. And if they're keeping something from us, 366 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: they believe there's a good reason to keep the truth 367 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: from us. They're not just following orders. They quit if 368 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: they didn't believe it. Okay, I know that from these 369 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: two men. But we want answers through all of this, 370 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: and it's strange we're not getting all the answers. I 371 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: want to bring in now retired FBI Special Agent Steve 372 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: Gray to the program. 373 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 6: Steve, welcome back, great, thanks for having me, ton, I 374 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 6: appreciate it all. 375 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: Right, Steve, a room hidden from Dan and Cash with 376 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: lots of evidence. You wouldn't say what the evidence is, 377 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: but it can't be good for Biden, I would imagine. 378 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: And this gets to the heart of the problem with 379 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: the FBI and how hard it's going to be to 380 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: rebuild its reputation. 381 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 8: Steve, Yeah, absolutely, this is this is completely outrageous. 382 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 6: I mean against three type of evidence rule that we 383 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 6: have within the federal government. You know, we have evidence 384 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 6: technicians who take care of this evidence. Who log the evidence, 385 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 6: They take care of the evidence when the evidence leaves 386 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 6: and when it comes back. That way, we have a 387 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 6: chain of evidence and we know exactly where that evidence 388 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 6: has always been. To have a room where they're hiding 389 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 6: evidence is it's just completely criminal and really people should 390 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 6: go to jail for this. They need to take a 391 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 6: hard look at this. You want to talk about deep state, 392 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 6: this is the ultimate deep state. This is the thing 393 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 6: that the American public has been crying about, the fact 394 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 6: that the FBI, the premier law enforcement agency in the world, 395 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 6: is hiding evidence in a room somewhere within the FBI. 396 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 6: And this is exactly the problem that we have today 397 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 6: with the FBI. 398 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look it was running. 399 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: You got James call me who is tweeting out those 400 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: things basically calling for violence against the president no surprise. 401 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: I want to bring up Epstein now because all of 402 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: us are hungry for information about Epstein, about how we died. 403 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: But even more portantly than that is what was going 404 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: on in this case. Who was involved, was the CIA 405 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: behind it? Was it a honeypot at operation? All of 406 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: these things are important. This is Dan Bongino on Epstein 407 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: Cut fourteen. 408 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 11: I am not asking anyone to believe me. I'm telling 409 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 11: you what's there and what isn't right. There is nothing 410 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 11: in the file at this point on the Epstein case, 411 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 11: and there's going to be a disclosure on this coming shortly. 412 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 11: We are working through some There is video that is 413 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 11: something the public does a video of him killing himself. No, no, 414 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 11: not fit, not the actual act. 415 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: Right again, I think Steve, everybody's getting caught up on 416 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: whether or not he killed himself, who killed Epstein, Whether 417 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: there now it was a camera that does show outside 418 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: of the cell, not inside the cell. 419 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: I think the bigger. 420 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: Question, Steve, is was there video that was being used 421 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: to blackmail? I don't know world leaders, half the members 422 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: of Congress. Are there members of our own government that 423 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: this is so big that maybe even a Democrat administration 424 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: and a Republican administration would say, this is so great, 425 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: so damaging, it could be so horrific to the world. 426 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: We have to cover this up as well, because I 427 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: can't figure out why we're not getting all the information 428 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: about the case itself. 429 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 6: Steve, Yeah, and there's been a lot of excuses from 430 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 6: day one. I think the biggest problem that we've had 431 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 6: with this entire Epstein case is the fact that from 432 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 6: the Attorney General Pambondi down, they should have treated this 433 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 6: like a true FBI case under wraps until they were 434 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 6: ready to release it. Releasing bits and pieces and talking 435 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 6: about it on the news and talking about different types 436 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 6: of evidence that we have and why they can't release it. 437 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 6: It does the public no good. It doesn't do anybody 438 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 6: any good. They need to keep this information until they're 439 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 6: ready to release it. The thing is that the public 440 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 6: and our Congress need to hold them accountable. And I'm 441 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 6: sure that they released this evidence, but talking about it 442 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 6: now is not helping the case at all. Yeah, I 443 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 6: believe really that this is my personal opinion. I do 444 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 6: believe that there's a lot of evidence in there and 445 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 6: that's going to hurt a lot of high ranking people, 446 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 6: and that's one of the reasons why it hasn't been released. 447 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I now, I'm only speaking for myself, not Dan 448 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: Bongino in Cash, buttel who I. 449 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: Know to be principled men. They would walk out. 450 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: And quit if they were told to say something they 451 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: didn't believe or wasn't true. I fear that the Epstein 452 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: file is so damaging, could be so damaging the national security. 453 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: Maybe we were working against our allies and this was 454 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: a honeypot operation by the CIA. It would damage us 455 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: there that maybe even Patel and Bongino have come to 456 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: a conclusion this would be damaging for national security to 457 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: release it. And that's why we're not getting the whole story. 458 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: I'll give you the last word. 459 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm not sure about that. 460 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: I truly believe. 461 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 6: I've never met the men, but I truly believe in them, 462 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 6: and I believe that they're trying to do the right thing. 463 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 6: But there are things within the United States government that 464 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 6: should not be ever released. And those are the types 465 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 6: of things that are put upon those individuals that take 466 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 6: it upon themselves the volunteer to go to work for 467 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 6: the United States government and to handle that type of 468 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 6: work without ever releasing it to public. That needs to 469 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 6: stay within the confines of the United States government. And 470 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 6: it's just things that the general public doesn't need to know. 471 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 6: And maybe this could be one of them. But they 472 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 6: really need to start, since they've been talking about it, 473 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 6: they need to start releasing some type of information. 474 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: I would even be okay if they said that. 475 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: Listen, we've seen things in here that's going to really 476 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: damage national security relationships with our allies and things like. 477 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: I think we would have some grasp of that, But 478 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: just kind of fuxing around the side and the edges 479 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: is not doing anybody any good. Steve Gray, it's always 480 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: great your insight on all of this. I appreciate you 481 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: spending some time with us. 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So I woke up this morning to learn 503 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: that President Trump had a little hiccup in the road 504 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: when it came to his tariffs. A US Court of 505 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: International Trade ruled that President Trump was out of line, 506 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: that he didn't have the executive power to issue widespread 507 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: tariffs as he did, claiming that this was a national 508 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: emergency due to our trade deficits. Well, almost instantly, the 509 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: Trump administration appealed, and almost instantly an appeals court stepped 510 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: in and said, okay, your tariffs can go through. All right, 511 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: we'll put a stay on the lower court's ruling while 512 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: the appeals worked through the courts. So the question then 513 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: becomes ken President Trump used the idea that trade deficits 514 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: are a national emergency to institute these widespread tariffs. Caroline 515 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: Levitt talked about this. 516 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: The President of the United States has core foreign affairs 517 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 3: powers and authority given to him by Congress to protect 518 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: the United States economy and national Security. Congress had created 519 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: the National Emergency Act to provide the congressional framework to 520 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: strike down improper iepa use and any questions over whether 521 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: President Trump improperly imposed these IEPA tariffs were already adjudicated 522 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: in Congress following Liberation Day. 523 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Emergency Powers Act that gives 524 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: President Trump the ability to do this. Now, I always 525 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: said I'm always going to be honest with you, and 526 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. Well, we've had trade deficits 527 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: for like forty seven years. I could literally come to 528 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: you if President Trump came to me and said, Grant, 529 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: make an argument against a president using it, make an 530 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: argument for a president using it. I could come up 531 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: with both arguments, and both would be pretty darn good, decent. 532 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: Arguments on this. 533 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: So it's always in the decider, which is why I 534 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: wish Congress would get involved and just say that President 535 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: Trump is right. I think we'd get around this pretty easily. 536 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: I want to bring in now, senior fellow at Unleash 537 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: Prosperity EJ. 538 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 2: And Tony is back with us. EJ. Welcome to the program. 539 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 12: Well, Grant, thank you for having me again. 540 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: All right, EJ, what do you think is this clear 541 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: cut and dry. 542 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 12: I think so, Grant. 543 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 13: And if we look at how Trump implemented tariffs during 544 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 13: his first administration, he actually used entirely different mechanisms to 545 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 13: do so, and then the courts have never once said 546 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 13: that those measures one constitutional. In fact, even after the 547 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 13: ruling last night and then another one this morning, there 548 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 13: was a second court that actually struck down the tariffs 549 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 13: before the other court that you mentioned said no, no, 550 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 13: we're gonna stay that order and the tariffs can go 551 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 13: back on pending an appeal. In any of those instances, 552 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 13: for example, we never talked about the specifics of steel 553 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 13: and aluminum tariffs as just one example, because that was 554 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 13: a targeted measure using a different mechanism, and sure enough, 555 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 13: that's perfectly constitutional. And so I think it's unfortunate that 556 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 13: the administration tried to use IEPA here instead of at 557 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 13: least three other metric, three other measures that they have 558 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 13: to implement tariffs, which again were used in the first 559 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 13: Trump administration. Now, to your point, Grant, on Congress getting 560 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 13: involved a great way to get around this whole problem 561 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 13: of the judiciary continuously saying the president doesn't have the 562 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 13: authority to do X, Y or Z. Would be for 563 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 13: Congress to simply do it. The Constitution is very clear 564 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 13: that Congress can add whatever kinds of tariffs they want. 565 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 13: And so if Congress were to, say, implement something like 566 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 13: a border adjustment tax to replace the ten percent across 567 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 13: the board tariff, that would be a very clean and 568 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 13: easy way to implement the President's agenda. And by the way, 569 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 13: as an added bonus, you could then, since it's now legislation, 570 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 13: it's being put in statute, you could then count that 571 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 13: additional tariff revenue as a pay for in the current 572 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 13: reconciliation package. 573 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: All right, eja, that sounds to me. 574 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean I teed up a little bit of the idea, 575 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: but I didn't have the details you have. It sounds brilliant. 576 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: So is there any movement in Congress to do this? 577 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: It seems like everybody wins. I just had Congress and 578 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: perching on I said, they have a disease. They're fearful 579 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 1: of voting on anything, members of Congress. But is there 580 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: any movement to do what you just laid out there? 581 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 13: Not at the moment, Grant. But of course we're always 582 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 13: working hard to put this bug in. 583 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 12: Members here, so to speak, and to make sure. 584 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 13: That we're getting the message out because unfortunately, I think 585 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 13: a lot of members of the legislature don't even understand 586 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 13: that they have the ability to do some of these things. 587 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 13: They don't understand these different mechanisms, for example, and the 588 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 13: ways in which they can implement either tariffs or something 589 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 13: like a tariff that can work even better and can protect, 590 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 13: for example, American exporters from foreign foreign companies dumping product 591 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 13: here in the US, or foreign nations manipulating currency, etc. 592 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me play a clip from a guy I know, 593 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, Peter Navarro. He's been basically one of the 594 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: architects of President Trump's tariff plan in the White House 595 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: for the guys buying the glass cut. 596 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 14: Three twelve states of this Union sued, and every single 597 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 14: one of them is a blue state, from the left 598 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 14: coast of Oregon and Washington to New York and Connecticut 599 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 14: on the Elitas coast, and they based The other parties 600 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 14: to the suit were a bunch of importers who buy 601 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 14: a bunch of cheap, subsidized crap from China that really 602 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 14: is illegally traded in the sense that it doesn't abide 603 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 14: by the rules of the wto all right. 604 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: Now, it doesn't surprise me about the importers buying cheap crap, 605 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: but the Blue States. 606 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: Here's what's so funny, EJ. 607 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: As long as I could remember, I thought Democrats love tariffs. 608 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: Is it just Trump tariffs. 609 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 12: They don't like exactly? 610 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 13: Only Trump could get the left to abandon so many 611 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 13: of their so called principles. Right they used to constantly 612 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 13: oppose free trade and Republicans used to be for it. 613 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 13: And what Trump did as he came on the scene 614 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 13: and essentially said, look, what we've been calling free trade 615 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 13: really isn't free trade at all. And I'm willing to 616 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 13: use whatever kinds of tools I need to take them 617 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 13: out of my toolkit and actually use them in order 618 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 13: to get us to a place of more free trade, 619 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 13: not less as opposed to protectionism. Now, I will say, though, 620 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 13: I think unfortunately Peter Navarro kind of sowed the seeds 621 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 13: of his own destruction here because instead of using the 622 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 13: tried and true methods that were implemented by Ambassador Lightheiser, 623 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 13: for example, in the first Trump administration, Peter Navarro really 624 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 13: pushed using IEPA, and I think it's kind of blowing 625 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 13: up in their face today now that doesn't mean that 626 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 13: the president's. 627 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 12: Goals are wrong. 628 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 13: I think the goals the president is trying to achieve 629 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 13: are terrific. I think the administration just needs to tweak 630 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 13: how they're going about achieving those goals. 631 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 12: That's all. 632 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, good advice as always from EJ and Tony. 633 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on. It's complicated subject, but it's 634 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: one that is certainly important to everybody. Interestingly enough, EJ. 635 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: The markets were whole home. They were whole home when 636 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: we put a stop to the to the tariffs, and 637 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: then hours later they were a whole home when they 638 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: reinstated the tariffs. 639 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: So maybe they're getting used to all of this. EJ. 640 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 12: Thank you, my friend, Thank you, Grant. 641 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, folks, remember the name Wilbert Castaneda, the 642 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: active duty Navy seal who is being held hostage in 643 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: the Venezuela. Well, he is still being denied his pay 644 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: and benefits from the United States Navy. They were about 645 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: to foreclose on this American hero's home. 646 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: I've got an update on this. I've been in touch 647 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: with the Pentagon. 648 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: And we have Wilbert's brother on next Stick with me. 649 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone. 650 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: I have told you I will never stop fighting to 651 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: try to get the Americans who are being held hostage 652 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: in Venezuela home. Since we started covering this story, we've 653 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: got one of those hostages home, Joseph Saint Clair. His 654 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: family is a static as you can imagine. Still, there 655 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: are others being held, including an active duty Navy seal 656 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: that we've told you about, Wilbert Castaneda. He's an active 657 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: duty seal scooped up by Venezuela in August of twenty 658 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: twenty four. Well, the United States Navy sent his family 659 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: a letter in September of twenty twenty four and it reads, 660 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: and I quote here, at this time, all pay and allowances, 661 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: including allotments, have been suspended, pending the members return to 662 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: Navy jurisdiction. Now they suspended his pay. We didn't get 663 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: the next letter until March. That letter came from the 664 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: State Department, now under the Trump administration, and that letter 665 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: made it clear that Wilbert Castaneda is a hostage in Venezuela. 666 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 2: Here is the letter. 667 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: It reads, mister Castaneda was arrested on or about August 668 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty twenty four, and at that time has 669 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: been detained since that time in Venezuela, now detained wrongly. 670 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: The letter goes on to. 671 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: Say, still the Pentagon the Navy is not paying Wilbert's 672 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: salary and back pay. This is a man who was 673 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: ready to give his life for this country. He's got 674 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: a wife and kids, and I'm told her about to 675 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: foreclose on his home. Well about thirty minutes before this show, 676 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: I was in contact with Sean Parnell, who is the 677 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: chief communications officer for the Pentagon. 678 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: I've known him for a long time. 679 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: He was sitting next to the Defense Secretary Hag Seth 680 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: as we were texting about this case. He promised me 681 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: the Defense Secretary would personally look into this and see 682 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: what they could do to start getting the return of pay. 683 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 2: This is good news for the family. I want to 684 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: bring in now. 685 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: The brother of that captured Navy seal, Christian Castaneda, is 686 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: with us. 687 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: Christian, welcome to. 688 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 15: The program, Grant, thank you so much for having me 689 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 15: on again. 690 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: Christian, absolutely so, Sean Parnell, Defense Segrety Pete haig Seth. 691 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: They're both in Singapore, so I'm not sure how quickly 692 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: they're going to get to it, but they vowed to 693 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: me they're going to look into it. That's good news. 694 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: Tell me just how dire the situation is for Wilbert's 695 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: family and what they're going through while he's being held hostage. 696 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 15: Now, that's excellent news, Grant, and I appreciate you leveraging 697 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 15: your network to get the word over to mister Heset's 698 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 15: secretary Defense Hexset. The situation is bad. You know, the 699 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 15: family has done everything we can. Wilbert was to take 700 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 15: in August of twenty four, as you stated, so we're 701 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 15: going on nine months of detention and as you can imagine, 702 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 15: the strain on the family is very, very difficult for 703 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 15: them to cope with. And so we since the designation 704 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 15: change in March, as you mentioned in your intro, we've 705 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 15: been working with trying to get to the right point 706 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 15: of contact person to correct the administrative oversight. I've learned 707 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 15: through this process that the removal pays is regular procedure 708 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 15: is so that's something normal. It's not something that any 709 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 15: one person is responsible for in the Navy. However, with 710 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 15: the designation change, that does change the landscape, and one 711 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 15: would think that that could be corrected quickly, but that 712 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 15: has not been the case as of yet. 713 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: It seems like nothing happens quickly inside of government. This government, 714 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: I think with President Trump, things are starting to change. 715 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: I will say Sebastian Gorka, a great friend of this program, 716 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 1: was instrumental in getting me in contact with Sean Parnell 717 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: and the Defense Secretary, and he. 718 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: Too is working on this as well. 719 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: With that said, we had the return of Joseph Saint Clair. 720 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: Everybody celebrated his return. Did you get any word from 721 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: Joseph Joseph's family that your brother is okay? 722 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 2: Was he with your brother? 723 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: Could you update at anything at all of what maybe 724 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: Joseph had to say about your brother's condition. 725 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 15: Yes, we were very happy to hear of Joe's return, 726 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 15: and I was able to briefly speak with him just 727 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 15: last week and he did mention gave us some new 728 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 15: updates on my brother. Again, as of his return, we 729 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 15: do know that that you know again he's healthy. But 730 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 15: obviously the Venezuelan detention facility is not a five star hotel. 731 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 732 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: And I think, how do I say this without betraying 733 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: anybody's trust. It was a rough go for Joseph Saint Clair. 734 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: I worry it's probably a rough go for your brother. Now, 735 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: he's a Navy c Saint Clair was an Air Force veteran. 736 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: If anybody can handle that, these guys can. But you 737 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: hate to think about what they may be going through. 738 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 15: Christian, No, absolutely, we hear that these detention facilities are 739 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 15: exceptionally small cells where they have them in We're talking 740 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 15: two paces by five paces, and you know, I can't 741 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 15: only imagine what nine months in that small space feels like. 742 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: What are the dangers now for his family? You had 743 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: mentioned that the banks are now looking possibly to foreclose. 744 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: On the home. 745 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, how what is the urgency here to get 746 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: this pay reinstated. 747 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 15: We're trying everything possible grant, there's there's some hardship relief 748 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 15: that we're exploring. There's conservatorship in case this turns out 749 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 15: to be a much longer process than what we hope. 750 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 15: So we're trying everything we can to prolong that from happening. 751 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 15: But it's not looking very good today. 752 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you offline to get me information 753 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: to the bank, because I'll use my contacts to go 754 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: straight to the higher. 755 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 2: Ups of the bank. 756 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: We literally get the CEO of a bank just to 757 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: put a pause on all of this while he's being 758 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: held hostage, so make sure you get me that information. 759 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: And then again, we are certainly praying for your brother 760 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: for their family as they go through this process. I 761 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: guess the last question is Rick Grenell has been instrumental 762 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: in getting some of these hostage back. He brought Joseph 763 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: Saint Clair back. Have you heard anything from him about 764 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: the prospects of where your brother's case stands. 765 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 15: Having spoken to him directly, However, I will say that 766 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 15: this administration has been outstanding in working behind the scenes 767 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 15: and trying to keep the families informed and we're staying 768 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 15: hopeful for a positive resolution this summer. 769 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: All right, Well again, God bless you Christian and your brother. 770 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: We are pulling for you, and I promise you at 771 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: least on this and we're not going to stop working 772 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: for you. And know that all the Stinchfield's army out 773 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: there are pulling for you and your brother is well. 774 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: So please keep us posting any changes and status we 775 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 1: want to know about. 776 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: A Christian We'll do. 777 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 12: Thank you, Grant. 778 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's Christian fascinating. 779 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: Again, folks, I say it a lot. I ask you 780 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: to pray for people on this program. Wilbert could use 781 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: your prayers. Imagine being an event as well in prison 782 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: as a known Navy seal. 783 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: Now he needs our prayers. 784 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: All right, Americans could see a multi trillion dollar tax 785 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: hike if the Big Beautiful Bill doesn't pass. 786 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 2: What this could mean for you? 787 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 8: Next? 788 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone. 789 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: The Senate better push through this big beautiful bill. 790 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: Senator Kennedy agrees with me. 791 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 16: The purpose of the Reconciliation Bill, which is a form 792 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 16: of a budget bill, is to renew the tax cuts. 793 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 16: In my opinion, if we don't and we raise taxes 794 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 16: to the tune of four point three trellion dollars on 795 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 16: the American people, our economy is going to go on 796 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 16: a journey to the center of the earth. 797 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 2: Well, we cannot want that happening. 798 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: And then, of course, if it doesn't happen, you're gonna 799 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: owe the irs more money and increase the chances of 800 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: them coming after you. I want to bring in now 801 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: from Tax Network USA. Cameron Kinsey is back with us. Cameron, 802 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. 803 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 5: Good to see you, Grant. Thanks so much for having me. 804 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: All Right, Cameron, I'm sure every host has made a 805 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: joke about this, but I was really hoping your viral 806 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: moment would have been with me, not on Fox. And 807 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: for the record, I would have helped you, not gone 808 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 1: to the next guest, by the way, but we're glad 809 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: you're okay. 810 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Grant. I know I can count 811 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 5: on you, all. 812 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: Right, Absolutely, all right, So Cameron, look, we've got the 813 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: the IRS people are all the focus is now on Washington. 814 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: But the reality is the IRS has not stopped doing their. 815 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 2: Thing, have They. 816 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 5: Haven't. 817 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 17: And if Republicans don't renew Trump's tax cuts, the American 818 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 17: people are looking at a massive tax hike period. 819 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 5: And you know, this isn't about policy. 820 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 17: It's about protecting the working families from inflation, from government 821 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 17: overreach that Democrats created. You know, Trump gave us the 822 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 17: biggest middle class tax cut in a generation, and so 823 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 17: the mandate is clear. Republicans were sent to codify this 824 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 17: agenda and not stall it. 825 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: All right, So when you're looking now at the IRS 826 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: come calling, I don't think it's probably a good idea 827 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: to think, oh, well Trump's in office, They're going to 828 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: just wipe away my debt. 829 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: That's not happening, right. 830 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 17: No, And the IRS has unlimited resources. Their job is 831 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 17: to collect, not to be fair, and so most Americans 832 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 17: don't know their rights in this situation. They don't know 833 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 17: how to push back against the IRS. But a professional 834 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 17: team like Tax Network USA does. We have a team 835 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 17: of CPAs, license attorneys, people who really just know the 836 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 17: tax code inside and out, and so we directly negotiate 837 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 17: with the IRS on your behalf. We understand how to 838 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 17: protect people from the aggressive enforcement that we've also seen 839 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 17: in the past. 840 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 2: All Right, I know people that have gotten letters. 841 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: Hey, I've gotten letters from the IRS to say I 842 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: owe money that I had miscalculated. 843 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, giant scam. 844 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: And so it was easier for me just to pay 845 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: the bill than it was to fight it. It wasn't 846 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: for me lack of paying. It was because the IRS 847 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: is doing their thing. But I know friends of mine, 848 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: their business owners, they bury their hand, They take the 849 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: piece of paper from the IRS and they stick it 850 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: on the bottom of their pile on their desk and 851 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: hope it goes away. 852 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 2: That's the worst thing you could do, isn't it. 853 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't want to ignore the problem. 854 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 17: Ignoring tax debt, ignoring those letters in the mail, ignoring 855 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 17: the filing deadline really only makes things worse, and the 856 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 17: IRS is counting on those mistakes from you. 857 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 5: It can lead to increased penalties. 858 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 17: The process can take longer if you wait or ignore 859 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 17: the problem. So if you're getting those letters, if you're 860 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 17: getting threats, you really need professionals in your corner who 861 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 17: can step in fast, who negotiate directly on your behalf. 862 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 5: And that's really where we step in. 863 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 17: We've helped clients reduce their liability, We've set them up 864 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 17: on favorable manageable payment plans, We've stopped collections before they've escalated. 865 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 5: So the good news is is that you have options. 866 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 17: But the bad news is the longer you wait, the 867 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 17: more those penalties and fees can stack up. 868 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: You know, everybody handles stress differently, but I would imagine 869 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: a lot of your clients get totally stressed out by this. 870 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: I would think once you get tax Network USA on board, 871 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: a lot of that stress starts to dissipate when you 872 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: got pros handling it for you. 873 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 2: Oh. 874 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 17: Absolutely, and we try to make this as less stressful 875 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 17: and as seamless as possible. We really just ask you 876 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 17: for you know, communication with us, documentation, making sure that 877 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 17: we have your W two's, that we have your tax returns, 878 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 17: any IRS notices that you've received in the past, proof 879 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 17: of income and spences. But we act as a liaison 880 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 17: between you and the IRS, so you're not having to 881 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 17: deal with them yourself. You have your experts in the 882 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 17: in your corner. We know the tax code inside and out. 883 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 17: But the more information that we have upfront, the faster 884 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 17: we can build a strong case for you before the 885 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 17: IRS takes further action. So our team handles the strategy 886 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 17: and communication moving forward, so you don't have to. 887 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: Well, I know so many of our Real America's voice 888 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 1: viewers have used tax Network USA and all to rave reviews. 889 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: So Cameron, I'll tell people how to find you and 890 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: the team, And again I appreciate you coming on and 891 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: be in tolerant of my wise cracks. All right from 892 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: Tax Network USA. All right, here we go TNUSA dot 893 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,720 Speaker 1: com forward slash rav that's the website TN USA dot 894 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: com Forward slash Rav or you can call them at 895 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 1: one eight hundred nine oh five eight thousand. 896 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 2: That's one eight hundred nine oh five eight thousand. All right. 897 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: So Democrats have rolled out a new spokeswoman to reach 898 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: out to young men. 899 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 2: Will it work? Wait a second, which. 900 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: One's the woman and which one's the man. There, I 901 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: have a feeling this isn't going to work. We'll show 902 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: it to you next. So I want you to think 903 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: about this. Books Democrats trying to reach conservative men, specifically 904 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: young men, roll out a guy I. 905 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: Believe that's gay and married as their vice presidential candidate, 906 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 2: Tim Walls. It's not gonna work. 907 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: They have their gay secretary of Transportation grow a beard, 908 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: Pete Bootages, thinking that's gonna work, and then they march 909 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: out this woman. 910 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time on college campuses. 911 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 12: And I spent a lot of times young men. 912 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,399 Speaker 5: I love young men. 913 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 18: I love frot guys, and in that I've realized, like 914 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 18: even the ones that I do as conservative are almost 915 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 18: always pro choice, They're almost always pro gay marriage. 916 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 5: You'd be surprised at the number of them who support 917 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 5: a Black Lives Matter. 918 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised at all of those things. So look, 919 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say anything mean. I'm just gonna say 920 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: it's probably not the best choice of that's gonna be 921 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 1: their new savior to recruit young men into the Democrat party. 922 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 2: Stick with Stephen A. Smith. But I don't even want. 923 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: To tell them that because I don't want to give 924 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 1: them any upper hands. Okay, that's going to do it 925 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: for us, folks. Thanks for watching. I'm Grant Stenchfield Stinchfield's 926 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: Army Rolls thanks to all of you. The website is 927 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: Grant Stenchfield dot com. Check out the podcast every weekday 928 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: twelve fifteen Eastern Time,