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Speaker 1: television personality. Singer, fashion designer, and businesswoman. Former cast member

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Speaker 1: Tammy Rivera is on today's episode of Naked It's the

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Speaker 1: make it work. Hey, everybody, welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: Naked with Me Kerry a Champion. UM, Guys, before we

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Speaker 1: It's been a week a week, a week a week.

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Speaker 1: Basketball Association UM. For those who are listening who may

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Speaker 1: just stay home, take you the house. And I did

427
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Speaker 1: that for a minute, but I'm like, listen, I gotta hustle,

428
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: Like I can't do this, Like I just can't sit

429
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: in the I was like, I gotta do what. You know,

430
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm creative individual. I gotta create. I gotta do something. So,

431
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: you know, the opportunity came back around for Loving hip hop,

432
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: and my mother in law was like, well, maybe you

433
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: should do it this time. She was like, you know

434
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: you can stay you know, you're styling and you can

435
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: use this as an opportunity. And gratefully, Walker was, you know,

436
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: okay with that at the time, and it actually just

437
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: kind of like it went from there. I just, you know,

438
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: knew that I wasn't going on TV to be a

439
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: reality TV star at that moment. To be honest, I

440
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: didn't even know whatever reality star was. Because this is

441
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: New you know, Loving hip Hop New York and Atlanta

442
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: had just started. You know, even though we've seen the

443
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: real world in Jersey Shore, but that wasn't our world

444
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 1: or our lifestyle, so reality during those times, it wasn't like, oh,

445
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: she's a reality star. It was just like, oh, she's

446
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: on TV, you know. And I wasn't inspiring to be

447
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: a reality star. I was just inspiring to go up

448
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: there to make a name for myself, to get outside

449
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: of my ex husbands shadow. So so you are in

450
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: this relationship with your ex husband, you were boyfriend and

451
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: girlfriend at the time Loveing hip Hop along. We watched

452
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: Loving hip Hop New York and it was a huge success.

453
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: And you're right in the beginning, you didn't really understand

454
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: it's me, dude. So it's almost it's almost good in

455
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: a way that you let somebody else do it and

456
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: then you figured it out when you're on that show.

457
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: How much of it? Because Mona has received love and

458
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: she's also had got a lot of criticism. When you're

459
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: on that show, how do you find yourself blending in

460
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: in real ways with these other cast members. When you

461
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: first get up there, you kind of form a natural

462
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: bond with certain. You know women that are on one set,

463
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: me Rashida heat it off very well. Um, A lot

464
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: of the girls me me who was on that at

465
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: the time, Carle me Carle always used to bump it.

466
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: But that's my girl lover to dad. But you know,

467
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: it's a natural bond. I think that when I want

468
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: to love a hip hop I was so honestly, I

469
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: was so vallable, I was so agree. I didn't know.

470
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: I was fairly new to Atlanta. I really didn't, you know,

471
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: still didn't have much friends or family in Atlanta. Um,

472
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: so I want to a TV show, really just try

473
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to just I honestly didn't

474
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: know what I was or I just knew that I

475
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: wanted to style. I wanted to I wanted to be

476
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: a styles I wanted to start my my, My, My, My,

477
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: my clothing line. And that was really my focal point.

478
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: Like I really now that I set here and think

479
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: about it, like yautinutiter, I had no real mapped out plan.

480
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't I didn't even know how serious it was

481
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: got to be, you know what I'm saying. I just

482
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: did it just to create a lay for myself. I

483
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: just like hey, I want I don't want to. I

484
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: want to make my own money. I want to do

485
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: my own thing. Like I got stuff that I need

486
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: to get done. I got family still in the hood.

487
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: I need to get my family next to me. So

488
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: that was my way of doing so I never did

489
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: it because of anything else. Were you And for me,

490
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: my biggest fear would always be I'm so damn private.

491
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: My biggest fear is everybody just being in my business

492
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: and a camera following me because I'm very curated. And

493
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: when I share any regrets when it's all sudden done

494
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: because it did give you a platform to get what

495
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: you ultimately want to do. Any any any like if

496
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: I had, if I have to go back and do

497
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: it again, I'd still do it, but I'd change ABCND.

498
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: I haven't any regrets because I was one hundred percent myself.

499
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: I was coping, I was transparent, I was honest. I

500
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: didn't going to any betrayed something that I wasn't. I

501
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: didn't go up there trying to start and be messy

502
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: because that's never who my character was. I mean that

503
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: known when I first got on the show, like listen,

504
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm not with the drama. Don't kill me. Any of

505
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: course there's something hip hop so sometimes yea, I'm gonna

506
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: come to your doorstop. But even through those aspects, I

507
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: still handle myself accordingly. I handed myself as I would.

508
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: I had to look back and be like, oh, why

509
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: would I do that? Why did I say that? Or

510
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: I was out like I handled myself like a woman

511
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: and I was able to come out, you know, um

512
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: off that show. And to this day people say like,

513
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, I love you and the show. You weren't

514
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: messy you you know you carriage yourself a certain way,

515
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, thank you, because um, that wasn't my goal.

516
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm my objective. I never want my daughter to be like,

517
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: oh look at a look at me on TV and

518
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: be disappointed or or embarrassed of her mother. HM. Because

519
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: that's important. Absolutely, we must pay all of our bills.

520
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: Press fast forward, fast forward, fast forward, because it could

521
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Speaker 1: be a lot of commercials, but fast forward, fast forward,

522
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Speaker 1: and fast forward, and then we'll be right back in

523
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Speaker 1: just a few minutes. Every champion and carry champions. To

524
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Speaker 1: be a champion, a champion and carry champion and carry

525
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Speaker 1: champion a champion and carry champion and carry champion. Rates

526
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Speaker 1: rates and sports and then the teamment can make him work.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very champion and carry champions to be a champion,

528
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Speaker 1: A champion, they carry champion, they champion, they carry champion.

529
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Naked. We pick it up with Tammy Rivera.

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Speaker 1: What do you um, how did you handle being having

531
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: your relationship on display? You know, in the beginning it

532
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: was kind of hard, but after a while I was

533
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: such my own bubble, like you know, I try to

534
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: create my own little I was telling someone earlier today

535
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: the interview that it didn't make my relationship harder, it

536
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 1: just made it we were young, when we were young,

537
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: and made it harder for him to do things because

538
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: now people knew why I am too. Yeah. Before before

539
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: he could get away with stuff, but now I was

540
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: getting DM like, girl, I just seen young man pizza

541
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: with some girl, you know, and it could be his assisted,

542
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: it could be in a girl. It was like, okay,

543
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it was harder for him to

544
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: do things. So in that aspect um, you know, it

545
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: definitely found a light. Um. But other than that, I

546
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: think that um, I went through what I probably would

547
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: have went through just one camera. Both women and the

548
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: industry go through without people knowing. I went through it

549
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: publicly and I was okay with that. H And by

550
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: the way, what what I what I gather and I

551
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: only keep it a buck Like you know, there's only

552
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: so much I can get in in terms of reality TV.

553
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: But from what I gather, if they true to who

554
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: you are, it really is fine. It is what it means.

555
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: It is what it is because people are gonna shrub

556
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: nas anyway, you know what I'm saying, Like me and

557
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 1: you are both women. You might go through the same

558
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: thing I go through. But because I'm spot like, I'm

559
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna get the scrutiny in the in the criticism, um,

560
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, whereas though no one knows your relationship or

561
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: your story, so no one's gonna be like, oh girl,

562
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: you're dumb. But then told me that you know what

563
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But if you're like you know, a woman

564
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: and you have a strong back, it's like, okay, I don't.

565
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: The way I look at it is where I come from.

566
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: Her baby, it's nothing you really can do to break me.

567
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: Like it's I didn't been through the worse of the horse,

568
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: and I know for a fact that some of some

569
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: of these people can't walk not even four steps in

570
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: my in my ship, you know what I'm saying, and

571
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: still be able to stand up like I am so

572
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: all right. Something you know broke me. Somethings hurt me.

573
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: I had my nights when I cried where I got

574
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: up and I looked at it. You know, I've seen

575
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: things and and it, you know, hurt me and then

576
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: molded me. But it's okay. In relationships period, it's hard

577
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: to grow together. Like, I don't care if a camera's

578
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: watching you. I don't care for cameras not watching you,

579
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: especially that you and your ex husband got together when

580
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: you were really young. Um, how old were you when

581
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: you guys got together? I was twenty four. I was

582
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: twenty four. I'm about to be thirty seven in July.

583
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: I was twenty four when I met Waker. He was

584
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: twenty three twenty four as well. I think it was

585
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty four. He was twenty four. Um. Yeah,

586
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: And and after a whole time, TV didn't ruin all

587
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: the ship because we were together for was married for

588
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: seven years and together for I think going on eleven,

589
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: and that was the majority of that was on TV.

590
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: So it wasn't TV that ruined or destroyed anything. You know,

591
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: it was more so us just growing in going through

592
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: things together and then you know, ultimately growing apart. Yeah.

593
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: So now you find yourself on this show, you are

594
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: are you immediately like I am? You said you waited

595
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: to the last season to talk about what you wanted

596
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: to do. I think you said the last season as

597
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: a singer, Ye, this is what I to do. You

598
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: waited until the last season to do that because you

599
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: didn't want them to judge you for anything else when

600
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: you revealed that. How was that received in terms of

601
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: what you wanted to do with your dreams? Because you

602
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: was manifested by and you're like, ok, let's see it.

603
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: This is what it is. Yeah, I okay. So my

604
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: family and people who knew me from home in Baltimore,

605
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: they were already every time I would go home to

606
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: Virginia or Baltimore or people didn't they're like, why aren't

607
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: you on that show? Saying my girl, like what do

608
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: you don't think? They were like they don't even know

609
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: you could, saying nobody know you can, saying like no

610
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: one knows you could, saying like why aren't you sing it?

611
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: So um for my people who knew me, it was like, yes, finally,

612
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: And for the people who didn't know, they was like,

613
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, why did you hold that in so long?

614
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: Like who? Like what? A lot of people were like,

615
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many people on the show come

616
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: up here being rappers to sing I have no talent,

617
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: and the whole time, you have a real talent, and

618
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: you would you didn't want to show it, you know,

619
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Speaker 1: And it was like I think, you know, that's when

620
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: the part of the scrutiny of the world got to

621
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: me where I was. I was afraid to show that

622
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: side of me because I'm so vulnerable when it comes

623
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: to music. I was afraid at that point because I

624
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: had you know, I've been on this show for a

625
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: few years, and I've gone through things publicly and the

626
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: social media and the media world and you know, all

627
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: these things. So it's like, I don't know if I

628
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: want to give them this sigm fight tear me apart.

629
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: And actually it was received very well. Kids. It still

630
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: does extremely well. To this name. My whole ep does well.

631
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: Ricos Love exactly produced that EP and it's like one

632
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: of like people to this day and people ask still

633
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: asking for music and what about that what about that

634
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: when they do ask you for me, do you say

635
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: I have tons of music? And I was right now, Chammy,

636
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: when we dropping exactly and I have so much music

637
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: that I just haven't really started and sitting on and um,

638
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: it's just really me just it's me being in my

639
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: head and just being so hard on myself, like I

640
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: just need to go ahead and just let it go,

641
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: release it, get off my chest and like ego people

642
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: that you can have it like, but I'm so music

643
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: is the only thing I'm super vulnerable about, like and

644
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: sensitive about, you know, they say like artists or like

645
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: remember about I'm an artists, or I'm sensitive about my shop. Absolutely,

646
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: And think about the little girl in Baltimore who was

647
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: fighting in high school. Could you and although you knew

648
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: that something was different for you, did you see this

649
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: where you are right now today, providing for your family,

650
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: making a like new skincare line. You're doing all the

651
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: things that you were taking this this chance, this opportunity,

652
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: and you're making it yours. Did you see that? You know?

653
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: To be honestly, I did. I did, girl, I saw that.

654
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: I saw. I just I can't explain it, Like I

655
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: really cannot put it into words, and I want to

656
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: know if I think I'm being you know, like I'm

657
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: telling a lie, or like I really did know that

658
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know how it was going to happen. I

659
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: didn't know when I knew that there was something that

660
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: I was destined for, something greater than than myself, and

661
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, and I knew that I was going to

662
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: be able to provide for my family. You know, I

663
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: knew that everything that I went through in my life

664
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: was for a reason. And to the day, people like,

665
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, you get asked anyone around me, my family,

666
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: my friends, they're like even when people say like, oh no,

667
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: because I'm so proud of you in congratulations, I'm like,

668
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: thank you and I go home. I like, what, I

669
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: haven't even done anything yet, Like I still sit there

670
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: mean nothing yet, Yes, yeah, I swear I'm still like

671
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: I've done nothing. Yeah. I'm such a hard critic on myself,

672
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm my own worst critic. I will pick myself

673
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: apart piece by piast like and that's what I'm working on.

674
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta be kind to yourself because you

675
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: have accomplished a lot. Like I've talked to you for

676
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: maybe twenty minutes, and I'm all like you, you have

677
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: done a lot in spite of because you've already known.

678
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: I wonder and this is interesting, UM, tell me about

679
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: because you have seen you on different variations of shows.

680
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: You had Tales, Are you still it's Tales? Thill out?

681
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: I know? So yeah, okay, And then you guys had

682
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: the Relationship show together, and then there was another show.

683
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: What other show? What was the third show that you

684
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: were on? So there's another one. I started with Loving

685
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: Hip Hop, then we did um Merge book Camp, then

686
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: we did Grown Up with our Pop and Sink with

687
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: our Own. We did our wedding special, and then we

688
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: did our own TV show, which is What the flocca Um,

689
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: Tammy Walk on Tammy, What the flocca Um. I did Tales,

690
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: which was a show on BT that was executive produced

691
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: by Earth Gaudi. And I just did this anthro series

692
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: on UM BT plus UM and Prime. It's called I

693
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: Got a Story to Tell. UM. It's individuals like small movies.

694
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: Each episode is like a small movie or a small story. UM.

695
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: I just did that, UM. And I'm, you know, hoping

696
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: to do more TV and movies and like film and

697
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: things of that score. I would love to do more

698
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: stage places. I've done stage two stage plays I think Carlbredy, Um,

699
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: thank you, I would love to do more of those.

700
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: Right now, really trying to focus on right in my autobiography,

701
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: the beginning part of it. So I want to start,

702
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, from my childhood up until this point in

703
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: my life. And I'm uh, and my daughter or she'd

704
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: be eighteen in July with we're in the we're in

705
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: the beginning stages of doing your Mom and Your Daughter

706
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: podcast together. I love it. And yet you see home

707
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: and like, what have I done? I'm like alive, Like

708
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: you're like, no, hold on, let me start. We're all

709
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: like this your show number eight. I'm like, Terry, you've

710
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: been busy right so so so and still have sing

711
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: and you still have yet to even really unplug that

712
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: for yourself in terms of hosts. Is left for you

713
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: to do? Um? You have been very candid about love

714
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: and loss. Yes, do you plan to tell that story

715
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: in a way and which helps other women as they

716
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: look for love? Um, it's a part of my autobiography.

717
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: It's UM, It's definitely. I can't Waka has been an

718
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: extremely huge part of my life, you know. UM, and

719
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: that's a story. You know. That's definitely I can't. I can't.

720
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: A part of who I am today is because him

721
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: allow me to um use his platform or he's sharing

722
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: his platform with me or his star or his star

723
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: stardom with me. Um So I can never take that

724
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: away from him. Um He's a great father to my daughter.

725
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: UM So that is definitely He's definitely a major part

726
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: of my story. UM that's not going to be the

727
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 1: focal point of my book, you know what I'm saying,

728
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: but it's maybe a chapter or two. Are you again?

729
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: Like I would like you know what I would like

730
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: I would like to talk about. Um, I would like

731
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: you to give somebody some advice, myself and all my

732
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: female listeners if you are starting out, because I have

733
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: been there before in terms of being in a relationship

734
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: and it never you know, manifesting to what I ultimately

735
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: wanted it to be. As you get out of the

736
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: world and you want to date again, what's your advice

737
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: as you as you are experiencing it. I think a

738
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, as a woman, we don't

739
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: do the self work on We don't do a work

740
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: on ourselves to to to be able to understand. Yeah,

741
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: because you know, even though I told people a time

742
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: I would do a lot, Walking has done a lot.

743
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: I have done a lot um. But at the same time,

744
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: I still have to take accountability for who I am

745
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: as a woman and accept the things that I have accepted,

746
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: accept the things that I you know, I could have

747
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: done better or I could have changed um, and do

748
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: the self work because we have a lot, especially us

749
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: as a woman of color, We have a lot of

750
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: child which trauma, a lot of generational curses that we

751
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: don't know about, and we carry those things with us,

752
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, and most times you know us want we

753
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: should absolutely make a list of the things that you

754
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: want and the type of man that you want, but

755
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: also make sure that you're ready for that list that

756
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,959
Speaker 1: you make, like that you're able to be a woman

757
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: of those things. You know what I'm saying, because I

758
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: can say that, you know, through my relationships, I was

759
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: a lot. You don't know. I was married previously. I

760
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: mean I was married prior to Walker, to my daughter's

761
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: sperm donors what I call them, but it is, but yeah,

762
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: I was. I was married previously from the age of

763
00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: eighteen up until I was what yeah, age eighteen up

764
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: until I was like twenty two or so, so that

765
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: I was with him since I was fourteen, and you know,

766
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: we got married eighteen, and you know, and that was

767
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: a whole nother um situation in my life that I

768
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: had to understand and grow from. You know, that was

769
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: an abusive relationship that I was in that I didn't

770
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 1: even realize was abusive until I was able to step

771
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: out as a woman and be like, okay, yeah, that

772
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: was mind control, that was you know, you know, verbal views,

773
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: that was metical abews. That was physical abuse, Like you

774
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: don't know those you know, we because we grow up

775
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: and we see the things that are normalized, you know,

776
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: and our you know, how is they saying in our household?

777
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: What goes on this household stays in this household. Grow

778
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: up into a grown woman and you accept things and

779
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: you don't speak one because it's in your household. And

780
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: I always realized that that like the stew worst term.

781
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: I hate that term. It's like the worst term ever

782
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: for a woman. You know, Um, a lot of things

783
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: happened in our households because we're afraid to speak up.

784
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: And you know the fact that I could just give

785
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: is just don't give up and don't sound like just

786
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: like people are like when you get married, I would

787
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: get married again and again and again and again and

788
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: again until I find my right husband. Like I don't

789
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: care like I'm I don't, I'm not. It doesn't matter

790
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: how many times we gotta do right. You're you're you're

791
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: a romantic you know our her and you're like I

792
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: believe in life you need Yeah, I have a lot

793
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: of love to give, and I have a lot thirsty.

794
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: Every champion and carry champions to be a champion, a

795
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: champion and carry champion and carry champiyond a champion and

796
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: carry champion and carry champion. Raiders and sports and entertainment

797
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: can make it work. Every champion and carry champions. To

798
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: be a champion, a champion, they carry champion. They girls

799
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: chap y'all a champion, they carry champion, they carry champion.

800
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: Sports and entertainment nake work. By the way, you speaking

801
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: so honestly, like, I will get it again and again

802
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: until I find live. If that's the case, getting wound,

803
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: I'll do it again. Back to me is the first step.

804
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: You just blew me away with um. We make this list,

805
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: but are we ready for this episode. You know it

806
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: is because I had to do Like a lot of

807
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: people were so angry with me with um They're like, oh,

808
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: they wanted me to be mad and my ex husband

809
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: for a lot of the stuff that we went through

810
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: publicly and things say he had done. And I'm like,

811
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, at the same time, Yeah, I had my

812
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: moments where I were mad. What do you mean they

813
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: wanted you to be mad by what? Like? Um, you

814
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: know we were you ever, I know man walk Aways

815
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: young when we first got together, so you know he

816
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: might have been in a blog cheating you know, back

817
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: in the day. And they're like, oh, you don't. No

818
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: one knows what you go through your household, but those things,

819
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: you're the negative things always stick out. No one sees

820
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: the positive things or the things that you know that

821
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: that we would do the other other way, that this

822
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: person has changed and has evolved in my daughter's life

823
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: and things of that sort um, not making no one

824
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: but also not knowing that, you know, I chose to

825
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: stay in situations regardless of what it was. I had

826
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: to take responsibility for that if I didn't, so I

827
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: didn't see the self worth for myself to say, hey, listen,

828
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: this is what it is. Then how can I demands

829
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: of respect from someone else if I'm not demanding me

830
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: for myself, you know what I'm saying, um, and also

831
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: just being able to say okay, because I'm believe a

832
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: woman first of all, we don't like to apologize. We

833
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: ain't never wrong, like, um, you know I said what

834
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: I said talking Bob, and I had to realize, okay,

835
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: that's not right, you know, like it's okay to admit

836
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: and to yourself even if you want it out loud,

837
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: like I was wrong, Like I was there wrong for

838
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: that since like you know, he was wrong for that,

839
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: like checking yourself and being able to you know, no

840
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: one's perfect. You might find a man on that list

841
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: that might not have I was just talking to a

842
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: friend of mine and she was just like, oh, that's

843
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: so hard to day because if he can dress and

844
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: I don't like where he dress, you know, like that's easy,

845
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: like that's a wardrobe, Like what's his my life? What

846
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: is we know? What is this? Like? Like you know,

847
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: they might not be exactly we wanted to be, but

848
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: you you know if with a little you know love,

849
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: like we all we're not what we want to be.

850
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: But a little self care, a little love, you know

851
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, can change things. Just don't be so

852
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: hard on yourself, your list or you know or the

853
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: person you know. Don't be so richid be able to

854
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: be the bigger picture, like you know what I don't want? Right?

855
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: Can you believe the way he's walking? Right, I can't

856
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: even like that. You're talking almost like we will do

857
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: that though we will really do that? How ridiculous? Just

858
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: really or or I don't like like the so ridiculous,

859
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: Like the non negotiables are you can't harm me, I

860
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: can't be in danger with you. Those are non negotiables.

861
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: Those are things right absolutely, and like you know, having

862
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: a foundation, being able to um, being able to you know,

863
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: build with somebody, understand and have a conversation like you know,

864
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: I've I've never had issues when it came to like

865
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: that part of you know, being in a relationship like

866
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: now that I'm maybe because I'm who I am as

867
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: a woman, Like I UM so confident with who I

868
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: am and i know what I want and I know

869
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: how to get it and I'm not insecure. When I

870
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: was younger, I might might have been, you know too

871
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: insecure too, you know, stand up and sink certain things

872
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: like or be in a room and and you know,

873
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: not feel self conscious. You know, and I think a

874
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: lot of times us as a woman, we have a

875
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: problem with um, you know, when we get out other

876
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: woman being able to say like, oh my god, you're beautiful,

877
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: like you know, like you're like you're gorgeous, usually you're forgeous.

878
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I don't have a mind

879
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: like you just saying like oh my god, you're beautiful.

880
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: How you home gorgeous or being? But still your beauty

881
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: doesn't minimize mind. You know what I'm saying. Real well,

882
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: that's a real thing. I believe your women don't want

883
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: to give other women compliments And all it does is

884
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: relax you to tell somebody else tell me you were beautiful,

885
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: and you can go have anybody you want, whatever you want.

886
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: You know what ready just talking about this Today I

887
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: walked into a room and it was this kind of

888
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: a situation like that, and the people that are what

889
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, teach you did you notice

890
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: the vibern energy? And I'm like, you know what I said,

891
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm so used to that with a woman, but I

892
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: just like, hey, beautiful, how you doing Yeah, you know

893
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, sorry, how to like break those

894
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: guards down? I don't know why it's like that sometimes,

895
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: but it is, you know, But um, I'm sort how

896
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: to check myself because we've all and when you come

897
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: from certain backgrounds and you've been through certain things, it

898
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: might be a man a reason. A man might be

899
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: a reason why you see insecure about being around other

900
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: beautiful woman. You know, it might be um something with yourself.

901
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We just all we just

902
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: got to give each other the benefit of the doubt

903
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: and just kind of check yourself because sometimes you know,

904
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: like I tell my friend like you, I call it

905
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: like you have to really check yourself. Like if you

906
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: see a woman who's beauty for beatty like she did,

907
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: you see it? You and you hate by like I

908
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: mean she her feet big, But you gotta tell you, damny,

909
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: you know you look I get No, she's fine, girl.

910
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: Stop are you gotta tell yourself that to like being girl?

911
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: She looks if you if you operate with which I

912
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: think you have and you're starting to live in from abundance,

913
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: you complimenting someone doesn't take away from anything that's your. Um,

914
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: I will tell you. I will tell you this. You

915
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: you should really lean into not judging a book by

916
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: its cover or not judging someone from their past, because

917
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: you are the definition of that. You are a um,

918
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: a surprise UM. You have such a loving spirit. No

919
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: matter what you which you thought it was, how tough

920
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: you are, you still have a loving spirit about it yourself.

921
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: So I would you lean into that because that's just

922
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: been the surprise for me. Like I'm like, okay out

923
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: here and I've seen the show, but she's so loving

924
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: and I think it is let me enter my soft

925
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: girl era because I'm tired of being tough. I've been

926
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: tough on my life. I'm tired of it. I had,

927
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: I've done all that, so I'm going to move into

928
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: some softness. I think Tammy is beautiful for you to

929
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: be in a stage where you can talk about what

930
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: you've been through, even the fact when you were like

931
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: I just grew up already, Like I say, I'm ready,

932
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: but there's a softness about you, and I think it's

933
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: okay for us to be soft. I want to make

934
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: that trendy. I'm tired of being too us right. I

935
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 1: pulled something the other day and it was like something

936
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: about when a man, when you find that man that

937
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: help that helps you get out your masculine stage and

938
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: into your soft stage, and people like you don't get

939
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: a man to help you with that, And I'm like,

940
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: y'all missing the point. I'm not saying that, but especially

941
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: be happy to all we have to courage where so

942
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: many hats, especially if your mom, if you're a single woman,

943
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: if you're a businesswoman, if you're incorporate, if you're an

944
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: entertainment you have to always have this like you know

945
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: you have because we get tried and things are you know, hard,

946
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's harder, it's there's a different respect

947
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: level when you're a woman, know what I'm talking about,

948
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: Like you have to always be like, okay, let me

949
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: carry myself a certain way and me speak a certain

950
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: way because you know, I already know how this can go.

951
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: M able to find it in the relationships and you're

952
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: so used to leading and doing certain things. It's like

953
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: being able to have enough finding that parton, to have

954
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: enough confidence and stability and understanding where you can say

955
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: you know what, you got a thing, yes you yes,

956
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: you know you can't have the wheel I have been

957
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: Boston all day. Go ahead and take over. I want

958
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: to take a break. I love that for us, and

959
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: that is my wish for both of us. That is

960
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: my wish both tell us about this skincare line, because

961
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: I saw on your Instagram that you were doing a

962
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: lot of press today and you were telling everybody about

963
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: the product. Um, where can they get it? Um? And

964
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: what and what made you go there? Or with skin?

965
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: I mean you're beautiful, so that makes sense. But why

966
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: did you say this is something I really want to

967
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: work on? Why did you branch here? Um? Okay, so

968
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: with my skincare line. Um, it's extra skincare regiment kids

969
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: a whole kid with a weekly foliated, daily face wash,

970
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: a face cream and I cream. Um, it's all in wine.

971
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: I used to be a girl. One of my many

972
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: mini jobs that I've had. You said, I did every

973
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: job name it. I did it pal Mart to Target,

974
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: to home deepall to Mary Kay. You're even so vacuum

975
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: planets bugs me. I can sell you that so self

976
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: aduct you know. And I worked for my kare for

977
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: a second. Not that's not really started my you know,

978
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: skin um journey. So as I you know, got older,

979
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: I started like buying all this spense of face creams,

980
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: and you know, like I was obsessed with moisturizers, like,

981
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: you know, having to create moisturizer. I really didn't get

982
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: into I cream until probably like a put to three

983
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: years ago or even like SPF thirty. It's funny because

984
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: in my head, girl, I think I'm chocolates. But it's

985
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: like and my mom chocolate. So I have this thing

986
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: by it like she likes feel it's not gonna happen,

987
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: just what you're saying saying. So for I would even

988
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: wear SPF thirty like and then I started educating myself

989
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: like okay, I need this on my skin because my

990
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: skin is starting to dry out, you know, my face.

991
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: And yes, so I just kind of say I cream

992
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: probably like good two years ago, um, because you know

993
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: it sounds like your are you getting older? You might

994
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: want to get all start working on that under the eye,

995
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm like, oh, hey, you know where

996
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: I am. I'm getting a little older than me, so

997
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, and I've already was into So I was like,

998
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, if I could just get something that's you know,

999
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: the caters to like something that cage, like take all

1000
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: of these products and I'm using in from these different

1001
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: times and treating my own line to where it though.

1002
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't have to have all this stuff on my dresser. Um.

1003
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: And I love expoliators like you know, facial facial expoliators.

1004
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: I love the I cream. I love to skip face cream,

1005
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: and I love you know what daily face swashed. I'll say,

1006
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna start my kid. So this is

1007
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: my This is how my kid when you open it up.

1008
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: This is actually at the top of it. So this

1009
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: is the front of it. I'm gonna get the front

1010
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: of it. You open it up, this inside of it. Okay, okay,

1011
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: started kid, give us ready to s why I'm with you? Yeah?

1012
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, there weekly exfoliator, the Deli face Wa, Shure

1013
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: face cream, yea I cream. Um it's with papaya um

1014
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: extract um jojo bids for the exfoliator. You have UM,

1015
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: vitamin E, all types of like you know, all natural

1016
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: products and I don't know perfumes or anything for you know,

1017
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: can like with these, No strong can come out of

1018
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: having snow good stuff on my face. It smells FIfF

1019
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: from the natural pipia, but it's not like that perfume

1020
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: on my face. Type of thing. I hate it. Um,

1021
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: so it's everything that I love. And then I'm body

1022
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: it definitely isn't used with SPA thirty Um all of

1023
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: the partucts are and literally I use it, my nephew

1024
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: use it, my my, my mom, my daughter, Like all right,

1025
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: this is something that I can say that I literally

1026
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: stand behind like that I use every day. It was

1027
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: sixty six months to a year of trial and error,

1028
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: like of literally me trying these products on my face,

1029
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: trying them on my mom face, trying them on my duaughter,

1030
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: like I will literally get my packages in and I'm like, okay, y'all,

1031
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: y'all got to start use these for a week or two.

1032
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: Tell me in problems, what would you eat pretty better?

1033
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: And I was doing this like costly too, I got

1034
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: it right, And I'm like, I'm not putting this on

1035
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: nobody's space or two. I look for sure this is

1036
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: something that I can stand behind. It I love and

1037
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: that you know works. And like I was saying, um,

1038
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: my mom, she's sixty three, she's a beautiful chocolate woman,

1039
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: and she's FELLOWE got no wrench this like dear, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1040
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: She was telling me this funny my mom was like, y'all,

1041
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. A little mix. You might

1042
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: get a little right coll too. I'm like day broro.

1043
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: She's so wrong for that, right, that's funny. But I

1044
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: listened as the brother of the better. You know, I

1045
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: know what you said. I like to be souper chocolate. Um,

1046
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: where can how do you buy your products out so

1047
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: that we can actually direct them to a lak so

1048
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: Um you can find the care at the care Bye

1049
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: t rivera dot com. You can also if you like

1050
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: outside and the anti La, you can stop past my

1051
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: store which is on two one five pm. Role is

1052
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: a swinging result all year round. We're actually gonna ship

1053
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: you out one of these um, one of these kids. Okay,

1054
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: and okay, I'm up the product. Oh my damn me.

1055
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. I really am all right. I

1056
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I genuinely appreciate it. I'm I'm trying. Are

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Speaker 1: you doing not even trying? You're doing it. You're doing it.

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Speaker 1: You're bored and try and doing it. I want my

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Speaker 1: own ski in Carolina and I'm watching you. You're inspiring me.

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Speaker 1: So this is what we're doing right now is inspiring

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Speaker 1: other people. I hope you receive that. Um And, and

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Speaker 1: I'm at the next wedding. I'm at whatever wedding you

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Speaker 1: want me to come to for you. Damn me. You

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Speaker 1: also have do you sit you have a swim of

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Speaker 1: the swim line right? So, yes, I still have my schoolware.

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Speaker 1: So it's t dash rivera dot com. Um that's my

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Speaker 1: swimming resort where website. I mean, that's all year around

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Speaker 1: swimmer resort where. Um. I just followed you on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We get all this though, right, You'll have do you

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Speaker 1: have that on your Instagram? Okay? Yes, everything. I buy

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Speaker 1: all my Instagrams and it's a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: I have in the works coming up that you know.

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Speaker 1: I want people stay tuned with m My music is

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Speaker 1: still capable for download um on all streaming platforms. Um And,

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Speaker 1: just stay tune. Like whatever God got out there for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm definitely gonna go get it by it

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Speaker 1: by his will and race. Amen, I receive it. I

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Speaker 1: see it for you. Thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 1: on my podcast. I know you that a long day

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Speaker 1: and i know it's late on the East Coast, so

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Speaker 1: I'm just really thankful for it. Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Think thank much, beautiful. I really appreciate you guys, y'all um.

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Speaker 1: I really liked her. As I laugh, I'm laughing because

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Speaker 1: and sometimes I just you never know what you're going

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Speaker 1: to get an inner us. You never know honest people

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Speaker 1: will be. You never know what they'll share with you,

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Speaker 1: and you go where they go. And I try to

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Speaker 1: definitely tread lightly without getting into all her business about

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Speaker 1: her relationship, but still wondering how she's been able to

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Speaker 1: push forward on what life looks like for her. Admittedly,

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Speaker 1: she talked about being young when she got married her

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Speaker 1: second marriage. By the way, could you imagine getting married

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Speaker 1: twice by the time that you are in your twenties

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Speaker 1: and then getting divorced as well, and having to start

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Speaker 1: over each time and find yourself. That's difficult. She's lived

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Speaker 1: many lives and she's doing very well, and I'm happy

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Speaker 1: for her. My hope is that you learned something from

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Speaker 1: this podcast, that you see that no one can determine

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Speaker 1: your outcome. You can make the most by what you

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Speaker 1: get in life and who gives it to you. People

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Speaker 1: can hand you things, and then it's optinuing to turn

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Speaker 1: it into something more significant and more special. I will

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Speaker 1: say this as I began the top of the podcast

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Speaker 1: talking about John Morant and why I like in the

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Speaker 1: too unlikely circumstances allowed them to have a platform, and

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Speaker 1: what they do with their platform is up to them.

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Speaker 1: And you hope that if you were ever given the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to have a platform, you use it for the

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Speaker 1: good of your family and your friends. And then when

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Speaker 1: you realize you have influence, as Tammy is realized she

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Speaker 1: has influenced, you give it back. And my hope is

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Speaker 1: that Job realizes his influence and he gives back because

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Speaker 1: you only have a certain amount of time where people

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Speaker 1: are willing to listen to what you have to say

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Speaker 1: and understand that you are an example of what can

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Speaker 1: be Tammy as his Job, I wish them both the best.

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for them both as I root for you

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Speaker 1: all who listen to this podcast and support this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you all so much. Thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: to this edition of Naked. A couple of housekeeping notes.

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Speaker 1: Our next episode will be our last episode for season two.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna go back to the drawing board

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Speaker 1: and bring you season three, and we are going to

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Speaker 1: try to make sure that we're giving you what you

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Speaker 1: need to know in this podcast. Still edify you, still

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Speaker 1: giving you entertainment, still educating you. I appreciate y'all for

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Speaker 1: all the support because we in season three. Can y'all

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Speaker 1: believe that from season one to season three it's like

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Speaker 1: a TV show. That's a big deal again. Keep subscribing,

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Speaker 1: keep downloading, share with friends, help us us to out,

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Speaker 1: Thank y'all for listening, and talk to y'all next week.