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Speaker 1: Welcome to the State of the Lakers podcast on Dash Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is Wednesday, and we're going to be covering NBA

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Speaker 1: Media Day, specifically with the l A Lakers. ROJ. How

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Speaker 1: you doing this morning, man? Doing great, doing great, beautiful

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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. Here. We just went through Media Day, pretty

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Speaker 1: high through that and um I think I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, man. How are you? Oh, I'm coming

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same thing from Rog and I

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Speaker 1: as is usually the case, this is gonna be the

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Speaker 1: last of our normal podcast before we get into our

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Speaker 1: postgame spaces, primarily with mixed in regular shows as well.

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Speaker 1: But we appreciate you guys support, and we're super excited

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Speaker 1: for this season, So um, we're gonna start with this

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Speaker 1: a D at the five News. That was the big

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Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me about that specific day

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Speaker 1: of interviews. You know, you and I were on the

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Speaker 1: same page for the most part in the sense that

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Speaker 1: we thought that a D would do a little of both, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: we thought he'd play center, and we thought he'd play

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Speaker 1: power forward as opposed to last season where he almost

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Speaker 1: solely played power forward, so there was going to clearly

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Speaker 1: be a difference. The main the main fighting point between

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Speaker 1: you and I was will he start at center? Which

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Speaker 1: is more just the symbolism of what a D is

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Speaker 1: willing to commit to. And then also it's about starting

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Speaker 1: games off on the right foot, getting guys in a

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Speaker 1: good rhythm early because you have good spacing early, which

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Speaker 1: sets the tone for the rest of the game. And

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Speaker 1: what was interesting about yesterday was we still got some

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Speaker 1: conflicting information because we had a D come out and

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Speaker 1: say that he's going to start at the five most likely.

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Speaker 1: We had another report come out that said explicitly stated

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Speaker 1: that a d would play more center than he ever

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Speaker 1: has as a Laker. But then we also had Frank's

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Speaker 1: interview where what he said was more along the lines of,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the first year, he was fifty fifty.

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Speaker 1: Last year he mostly played power forward. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be more like the first year. That's explicitly what he said,

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Speaker 1: more like the first year, which is a little bit

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Speaker 1: contradictory to some of the reporting that we've seen. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I have a theory about this, uh specifically

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Speaker 1: why they decided to go to shrap, But let's start

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Speaker 1: with this rage. Do you have any uh condolences you'd

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Speaker 1: like to offer or apologies to the Lakers community for

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Speaker 1: your stubbornness, your outrageous stubbornness on this topic. So you

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Speaker 1: know how like when you're like at a party and uh,

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Speaker 1: you have the food in front of you, but you're

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Speaker 1: need to wait for everyone to kind of get there,

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Speaker 1: crow in front of me, but we're like four days away, right,

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Speaker 1: So like I'm not ready to eat it yet. I

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Speaker 1: that's what happens. But I've been pretty clear on this,

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Speaker 1: like when I said I believe Anthony Davis when what

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Speaker 1: he says, like with what he said in the past,

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Speaker 1: I believe him. Like what Frank Bogle says also matters

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Speaker 1: to me. But like when a d comes out and

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Speaker 1: Like it was pretty clear. Um, he went back and

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis pretty clearly mentioned that, Um, he'll be playing

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Speaker 1: Now everyone's kind of got what they wanted on this,

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Speaker 1: and I've been pretty clear. I don't think it mattered

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Speaker 1: But it looks like he will. And I thought Russ's

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Speaker 1: So you guys are right for now. We'll see in

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Speaker 1: four days, but you guys are are right for now. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I'm with you, man, because this could

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Speaker 1: and it actually stand from Russ's comments, so we can

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Speaker 1: kind of start there, you know. To make a long

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Speaker 1: story short, Rush just basically mentioned how Anthony Davis at

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Speaker 1: everybody involved. And you know, I think I think when

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Speaker 1: a D came to the Lakers, Lebron was very accommodating.

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Speaker 1: Just in general. I mean that the story of the

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Speaker 1: for him. Lebron has been super accommodating to a D

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Speaker 1: over these two seasons, and I think a D came

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Speaker 1: Lebron was like, fine, we'll make it work. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Russ, I think I think where you

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Speaker 1: this was that a D would move to the five.

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Speaker 1: More primarily is Russ's personal experience playing basketball over the

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Speaker 1: last few years. If you remember in Houston, he really

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Speaker 1: struggled to start the year with Clint Capella playing center

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Speaker 1: and the problems that that caused for their spacing. Then

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Speaker 1: really really good season shooting corner threes, and essentially Russ's

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Speaker 1: and you know, Russ has shown some self awareness. There

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Speaker 1: and he attributed some of his later career, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, when he was young, he was so incredibly

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Speaker 1: that same nuclear athleticism around the rim, so he needs

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Speaker 1: I think he sat down with Lebron in a d

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Speaker 1: it was like, this is awesome, guys, I want to

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Speaker 1: playoff games. There was there was no space to operate.

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Speaker 1: and and I think he made it clear and no

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Speaker 1: my theory. What do you think? Yeah, And it's crazy

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Speaker 1: that has been humbled right, like he doubts, does sound

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Speaker 1: like a guy that like knows what his position now

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Speaker 1: and like he saw themselves as peers. It's crazy hearing

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Speaker 1: like he's done a lot in his career, but Lebron

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Speaker 1: knows how to go to that next level. And this

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Speaker 1: it's crazy hearing him talk about that, and it's cool

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Speaker 1: he seems ready to do that. Um, we didn't even

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Speaker 1: reported what the starting lineup would be, which would be

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Speaker 1: Russ Ellington, aresa Um with Bron and a d Um,

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Speaker 1: laid it out. I've said that Wayne, I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: and that seems like what they're going to and this

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Speaker 1: should be eighties year, right. I think his comments were

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Speaker 1: And I believe that I've been preaching this all summer

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Speaker 1: that this is the year of Anthony Davis. Westbrook is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's gonna beat Lebron James. This team goes as ad

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Speaker 1: does his dominance inside as what will make them and

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Speaker 1: him playing with two passors like this, I'm excited for it.

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Speaker 1: So if he's gonna start that center, they're gonna they're

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Speaker 1: gonna win a lot of games. Yeah, you know, Lebron

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Speaker 1: actually mentioned angry Anthony Davis is what he was looking

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Speaker 1: forward to this year, and I thought it was interesting

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Speaker 1: him for obvious reasons. He got married. But you know,

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Speaker 1: in general, I think that, uh, Anthony Davis is the

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Speaker 1: type of guy who's not very outward with his motivation,

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Speaker 1: which is a good thing acause it's just it just

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Speaker 1: of his his discontent with the way things went last season.

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Speaker 1: One last note with him at the center that I

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Speaker 1: play some power forward. You know, there are specific there

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Speaker 1: are specific matchups where it makes sense, you know, and

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Speaker 1: it has to do with, you know, the rhythm and

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Speaker 1: muscle memory. When you've got a good rhythm, you've established

431
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: your muscle memory, that's why you start making shots, you

432
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Whereas if you go a long

433
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 1: time without shooting and then you catch your your rhythm

434
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 1: is just a little off. Your muscle memories not quite

435
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 1: dialed in yet, you might miss ugly or a lot

436
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 1: of players they have to have their fingers on specific

437
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 1: spots on the seams in order for them to feel comfortable.

438
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 1: That's always been a thing for me. I struggle personally

439
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 1: shooting if my fingers get off the seams. It's something

440
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: that I've been working a lot on. Is is not

441
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: practicing on the seams every time because that's just gonna

442
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 1: be the only time I'm ever comfortable. Well, the same

443
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: thing extends to spots on the floor. You know. The corner,

444
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: for instance, is a really tough spot for most players

445
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: because it's so visually different than where you're shooting elsewhere

446
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: in the mrs are also super ugly. If you miss,

447
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 1: it usually goes way long, and it can it can

448
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 1: psych you out or something along those lines, you know,

449
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: Whereas if you hit the front rim from up top,

450
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: you always have the possibility of it coming in off

451
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: of the backboard. You know. For me, personally, I always

452
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: felt comfortable in the wings. That's where I felt like

453
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 1: I had the most space to operate. It kind of

454
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: fit naturally with where spot up shooting is located on

455
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: the floor, and it gives me more space to operate.

456
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is for me. But each

457
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: player is different. They have their own little areas of comfort,

458
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: and you know, with a guy like camp Baysmore, I'm

459
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: not sure where those spots are specifically for him. However,

460
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: he probably knows where he feels most comfortable. He also

461
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: is probably aware of spots where he will get shots

462
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 1: this season where he's currently uncomfortable and he needs to

463
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 1: practice and he'll figure that part out. Where do I

464
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: think he he fits in? Personally? I view him as

465
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Speaker 1: like the spitting image of KCP because he's a really

466
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Speaker 1: good athlete, and in addition to being a really good athlete,

467
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Speaker 1: he's got really good one leg bounce and he's got

468
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: good length and he can extend that was always k

469
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: CPS thing if you remember, in transition in particular, but

470
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: also attacking closeouts. He could take off that left foot,

471
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: extend that right hand out and no one could block

472
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: it because of his athleticism, and he get all the

473
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Speaker 1: way to the rim off of one dribble attacking a

474
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Speaker 1: close out, Well, Kemp Baysmore is going to be able

475
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Speaker 1: to do the same thing going left. In addition to that,

476
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Speaker 1: he's just a little bit more polished in the things

477
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: he can do attacking closeouts, like one dribble, pull ups,

478
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: floaters in different finishes around the rim. If he has

479
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: to elevate and finish on somebody, he can. He's the

480
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Speaker 1: one guy in the guard corps who will play off ball,

481
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Speaker 1: who has that case, that k c P type of

482
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 1: just really solid but simple type of close out attacking,

483
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Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna fit in great there, especially

484
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Speaker 1: on the defensive end. By the way, he's also the

485
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Speaker 1: closest we have as an archetype to what k c

486
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: P did. Defensively, he can lock and trail, he can

487
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: apply ball all pressure. He actually applies too much ball

488
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: pressure sometimes and picks up a lot of fouls. Although

489
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: our guy Jackson Frank actually dove into that a while

490
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: back and he got a lot of crap from Golden

491
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: State fans for picking up fouls, but that's kind of

492
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Speaker 1: his style is I'm gonna be super physically aggressive at

493
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: the point of attack, use my hands. Hopefully they just

494
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: won't call it. And if you actually look at the numbers,

495
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: he didn't do that badly in terms of drawing foul.

496
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Speaker 1: So I'm a I'm a huge fan of base Bore.

497
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: I think he's a fantastic fit. I don't think he'll start,

498
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: but I think I'm I'm a big believer in what

499
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: he brings the team. I think it's a seamless fit

500
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: because we've seen it before with k CP. Yeah, and

501
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 1: I like the defense point. You probably brought up about that,

502
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: and he talked about that as well. Um, how he's

503
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: on this team, he can be more aggressive, right because

504
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: he has more bigs around him. Um. He was watching

505
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: like Dwight, DJ and a D kind of take picture

506
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: together and he was like pointing to them. He's like, Um,

507
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: they're the reason I can kind of be more aggressive,

508
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: um at the point of attack. And he's gonna be

509
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Speaker 1: one of the big defendants on this team. To me, Um,

510
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: we kind of forget, but base Mare used to be

511
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: like the prototypical three and D guy that you'd want

512
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: on our team, like when he was starting for those

513
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks teams that were winning ship a whole ton

514
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: of games before being beat by lebron Um. You also

515
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: talk about how he played with Damian Lillard a couple

516
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: of years ago, and he played with Steph last year,

517
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: so he knows kind of how to play among UH

518
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: star players and winning players. And it was cool to

519
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: talk hearing him talk about defense as well. He was saying,

520
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: like how defense is like a team thing, right, You're

521
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: not really stopping one player ever, so like it's more

522
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 1: of a team kind of game. And when you have

523
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: big men um at the rim, you can kind of

524
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: just funnel your guards there and just and they're shooting

525
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: over bigs all night, then you've kind of won there,

526
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Speaker 1: So I thought it was huge. I like hearing him

527
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Speaker 1: talk um. The other guy I guess I had wrote

528
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: down was basically Wayne Allington. We talked a little bit

529
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: about him, but he kind of went a little bit

530
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Speaker 1: deeper into like him playing with I guess a D

531
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: and him as a shooter. I guess that kind of

532
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: gravity that he brings. And it was cool hearing hearing

533
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: him kind of talk about the xsos and details of that,

534
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: like how he can play off of a das like

535
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: you can't really switch that, and and how like you're

536
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to you can have make a decision I

537
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: guess on those two when you're playing them, you have

538
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: to make a decision on who you want to guard

539
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: um in that. So, like if you want to talk

540
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Speaker 1: about a little bit, like what do you think he

541
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Speaker 1: does for I guess a D. I guess because a

542
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: D hasn't really played with a shooter like this. I guess,

543
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: like I guess the best shooter I guess was k CP,

544
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: but like, I don't think he's really played with the

545
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: shooter of the level of Wayne Alanton, even in New Orleans.

546
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Speaker 1: I don't think, like, I don't know if he's had

547
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: as good as shoot as Wyanton in New Orleans as well,

548
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Speaker 1: But do you think that does for I guess a

549
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: d as well or even Lebron in that case, because

550
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: I thought that was really interesting that Wayne Alanton kind

551
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: of brought up what he could bring um as a

552
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: shooter and wanting to shoot I guess from three, which

553
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really sustainable, but um, I just

554
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: think that's cool that he's coming into this, uh, coming

555
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: into this with those kind of expectations. Wayne Ellington is

556
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: the first real shooter that the Lakers have ever had. Um,

557
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: even if you look at Ben McLemore, he is a

558
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: real shooter, but he like if you're if you're putting

559
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: all those guys in a group, he's way at the

560
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: bottom of that group in terms of guys who have

561
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: a track record in the league of just being really,

562
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: really really good shooters. So I would say that Ellington

563
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: is the first that the Lakers have had. This is

564
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: something that the guys from Laker Film Room talk about

565
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: all the time, and I think it's actually the super

566
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: relevant here. They talk about how like, you know, the

567
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: difference between a thirty three percent three point shooter in

568
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: a thirty eight percent three point shooter over the course

569
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: of the season might be like seven makes right, there's not.

570
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: It's not really that big of a difference. That's that's

571
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: what differentiates like a a Kyle Kuzma from a k CP.

572
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: For instance, two guys that I think are capable of

573
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: knocking down shots, but neither of which are what you

574
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Speaker 1: would call a shooter. K CP just happens to be

575
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: a guy who made a few more over the course

576
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: of the last couple of seasons. Then Kyle Kuzma, did

577
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: you know the difference between the way you guard a

578
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: a guy who can shoot versus a shooter is is

579
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: it's a chasm between the way those two things are guarded.

580
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: With KCP and with Kyle Kuzma, you're kind of in

581
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: a traditional shell drill. You're just closing out and you're

582
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: living with the results. When you have a guy like

583
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: uh Wayne Ellington on the floor, it is a panic

584
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: that it sets on the defense. I mean, we remember

585
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: this because he lit the Lakers on fire last year,

586
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: and he has a track record of doing this throughout

587
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: his career. When you're guarding a real shooter. You're not

588
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: in a shell drill. You're maybe two steps away from

589
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: the guy. And most importantly, because when these really gifted

590
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: shooters that can move around off the ball, you can't

591
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: be in a shell drill because he's going to find

592
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: some sort of way to you know, fake coming off

593
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: a pin down and then flare out and you're gonna

594
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: run into a screen and now he's wide open in

595
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: the opposite corner. These really good off ball shooters, you

596
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: have to stay glued to them all the time even

597
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: when they don't have the ball, because of their ability

598
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: to move around off the basketball and catch you sleeping

599
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: to find open shots. The Lakers have never had a

600
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: guy who does that. So that's what he can do,

601
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: just kind of in enough his himself to draw guys

602
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: towards him a gravity, so to speak, in the way

603
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: that helps the offense. Now, in screening actions and dribble

604
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: hand offs and things like that, with Anthony Davis, it's

605
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: really not all that complicated. You either have to switch it.

606
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: Um you have to switch it, but you can't. It's

607
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: really that simple. It's like a pick your poison kind

608
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: of thing. You're basically either going to give Anthony Davis

609
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: a matchup against the lock and trail guard in the post,

610
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: or you're gonna let Anthony Davis set the screen, in

611
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: which case Wayne Ellington is gonna be open. So in

612
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: that case, really your best case scenario is to stay

613
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: glued to Ellington and maybe, if you get lucky, you

614
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: force Anthony Davis to take a wide open jump shot.

615
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: But even that isn't a great defensive possession because if

616
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: you let Anthony Davis take wide open jump shots all

617
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: game long, he's gonna eventually get it going and he's

618
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: gonna make you pay. So the the the anatomy of

619
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: offense with a real shooter on the floor, it's it's

620
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: a real real shooter as opposed to a guy who

621
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: can shoot. It is hard to even describe. There's so

622
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: much that it does to help the team. And that's

623
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: specifically why he's such a great fit with the starting

624
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: lineup is that gravity is basically like playing four on

625
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: four with lebron A d and and uh and Russell Westbrook.

626
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: And if you happen to venture that fifth guy in there,

627
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Wayne Ellington's gonna make you pay every time. Yeah, for sure.

628
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: And I didn't even realize he shot forty two actually

629
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: from three last year, which is really pretty insane to

630
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: put on this team I put next to the stars

631
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: that we have. Um, so he's gonna be great. I'm

632
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: excited to see it. Also, our guy, and that's what

633
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: guys glued to him all the time, that's what that's

634
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: what them guarding him like like in his jersey all

635
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: the time. That's insane, Yeah, insane. Yeah. And he's a

636
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: guy that fires the way right as well, Like I

637
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: think when he's coming off those pin downs, like his

638
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: first read is like that big right, So if that

639
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: big is down, I don't think he's really worried too

640
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: much about the lock introl grad. He'll just fire because

641
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: he's so good on inten his technicalities, um while shooting.

642
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see him. Our guy. Rouge also

643
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: asked him about this on his pot. We didn't really

644
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: get into it last time, and he went to even

645
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: more detail on that how like, yeah, you can't switch

646
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: that because then a D like you said, has that

647
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: luck introl guarden him and he can just throw it down.

648
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: And he talked about how Aid is such a good

649
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: pastor as well, so you can find him. Um, excited

650
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: for him, Uh the next one like DeAndre Jordan, I

651
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: thought had an interesting press conference as well. I don't

652
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: know if you were able to hear his whole thing. Um,

653
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: he had to get a short little stint um, but

654
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: he kind of he kind of talked about, you know,

655
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: how they had the little mini camp. I guess, um

656
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: Lebron has his uh mini camp that he didn't have

657
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: last year. So maybe that's why you know they're they're, uh,

658
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: they want a title when he's had the mini camp.

659
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: He didn't have it his first year. Uh here haded

660
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: his second year. But he talked about how like Lebron

661
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: threw some like insane passes at him, um that he

662
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: has to kind of get used to, which is which

663
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: is not as funny because he played with James Harden

664
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: last year, you know, so he's like so he said

665
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: he has to kind of get used to how Lebron

666
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: sees the floor. And I kind of thought about that

667
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: from like a big view, like he's not only playing

668
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: with Lebron, He's also playing with Russell Westbrook now and

669
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: again I know he played with Harden last year. I

670
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: just think Lebron and Rusts are like at a different

671
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: pace of that than Harden plays that there's a little

672
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: bit more slow style rust and Lebron kind of pushed

673
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: the pace more. So I was gonna ask you, like,

674
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: what do you think about that people having to adjust

675
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: I guess to how Lebron passes, and to me, I

676
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: think it's the other way. I think Lebron kind of

677
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: adjust to how his team goes. I guess how his

678
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: teammates cut and kind of finds him there. So what

679
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: do you think about that balance? I guess from like

680
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: players having to adjust to Lebron and Russ or them

681
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: adjusting the teammates, Like, how do you think that works?

682
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: How how coolly do you think they can kind of

683
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: adjust to each other. I guess I'm not particularly worried

684
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: about DeAndre Jordan because he used to play with Chris Paul,

685
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: and so from that standpoint, did there will be a

686
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: little bit of an adjustment period just kind of seeing

687
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: the angles that Lebron throws those passes. Um, you know,

688
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: Chris Paul is probably a little bit better of not

689
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: a little bit, but he's a better lab thrower than

690
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: Lebron just because he played with Lob Threats his whole

691
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: career as opposed to Lebron who kind of had to

692
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: enter that phase later in his career. Like the best

693
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: lab threat that he really played with early on was

694
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: maybe Tristan Thompson, which is just not in the same

695
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: stratosphere as those other guys, you know, whereas you know,

696
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: between Tyson Chandler and DeAndre Jordan and Blake Griffin, Chris

697
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: Paul has just existed in a world where he could

698
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: just throw the ball up towards the rim um. I'm

699
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: not worried about DeAndre Jordan. Hill adjust a little bit

700
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: to it, but at the end of the day, it's

701
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: all about being ready. You know. DeAndre Jordan has good hands.

702
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: He probably is just used to in Brooklyn over the

703
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: last couple of seasons and Dallas before that, not really

704
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: having the same level of awareness around the basket being

705
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 1: ready all the time for that kind of past as

706
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: far as adjustments go, you know, and Russ mentioned this,

707
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: and this is just the simple fact of the matter.

708
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: You maybe a regular season has its ups and downs,

709
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: and Russ rust talk. He's like, They're gonna be games

710
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 1: where it looks like it doesn't work, and then there

711
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: are gonna be games where it looks like it's firing

712
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: on all cylinders. That's just the way it is. I Mean,

713
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: the reality of the situation is if you clicked on

714
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: a random Brooklyn Nets game against the Cleveland Cavaliers last

715
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: year where they went oh and two, you might have

716
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: sit there and been like this, Kevin Durant, Kyrie, everything

717
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: just doesn't really work all that well. You know, that's

718
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: kind of the way you would You would look at

719
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: it because you caught it in a one game setting,

720
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: and that's just kind of the natural progression of basketball.

721
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you probably remember this from when you were playing,

722
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: but sometimes you just go through like a week stretch

723
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: where you don't shot the ball particularly well, and then

724
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the next week you can't miss

725
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: because you're an really good rhythm the whole time. That's

726
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: kind of the way it is offensively for all of

727
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: these guys. They're all very high i Q players. They're

728
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: gonna figure it out. There will be some adjustment, but

729
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: not much. I'm on the record, and I've said this before,

730
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: I expect the Lakers to fire on all cylinders right

731
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: away relative to the rest of the league, because it's

732
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: really the same type of set up as last year.

733
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: You've got Lebron and a D who already have chemistry

734
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: from two years, and you've got a dribble drive guard

735
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: in the form of a Dennis shooter slash Russell Westbrook.

736
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: Is Russ as good as a shooters Dennis, No, But

737
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: Dennis was a bad shooter too, so it wasn't exactly

738
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: like Dennis was getting left open all the time. You know,

739
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: Russ is actually just a massive upgrade over what Lebron

740
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: and n A D or what Lebron and n A

741
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: D we're working with last year with Dennis and with

742
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: Dennis it worked. And you know, for all of the

743
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: complaints about offense, and they were legitimate, they had like

744
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: I'll have to look it up, but they were over

745
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: one fifteen I think was their offensive rating with Lebron

746
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: on the floor, So they certainly weren't struggling to score.

747
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: They just weren't as good as the top tier teams

748
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: because they kind of nuke themselves with their spacing. But

749
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think when you

750
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: get this many smart players in the room, they're going

751
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: to figure it out. But at the same time, we

752
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: know how this goes. If they go if they go

753
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: to Phoenix in the second game of the season, and

754
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't look good and they lose, You're gonna have

755
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: all these people on Twitter and elsewhere saying that this

756
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: Lakers fit is clunky and it doesn't make sense and

757
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: this team can't win. But those are just the same

758
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: people that are always waiting around for the next failure,

759
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: and they'll be quiet when the Lakers going a ten

760
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: game winning streak later on. So this is this is

761
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: all part of the process. It's all part of of

762
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: of just the anatomy of an NBA regular season. It's

763
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: gonna look ugly sometimes, gonna look pretty sometimes, but these

764
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: are smart players. They'll figure it out. Yeah, it's funny

765
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: listening to like DeAndre Dordan talk. It just he's even

766
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: sounds so eerily similar to like when Dwight came, you

767
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, he's just a guy that's

768
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: very comfortable in who he is now and what his

769
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: role is going to be. Um again, maybe he starts

770
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: when he does him, but he just seems like he

771
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: understands and he understands basketball. It's pretty much what he

772
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: said in his comments. So it's cool kind of hear

773
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: him talk. He's also kind of goofy as well, kind

774
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: of like why they're almost like the same player almost

775
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: in some weird ways. But I'm excited for him to

776
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: see what he looks like. Um So, the last kind

777
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: of quote I guess I had written down, I was like,

778
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: we talked about him a little bit as well, but

779
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: I think Trevor Resa is really interesting. Um So, Trevor

780
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Reesa is thirty six. When you hear him talk like,

781
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't like, you don't see him as old. I

782
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: guess like it just doesn't come off on the screen.

783
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: So like when I heard him and then you think

784
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: about how he's played fifteen years, he don't really see that.

785
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: I think it's fifteen years and leading out for Trevor

786
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: Resa something like that. Um So, he said, like he

787
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: pretty much said, he's like a plug and play type

788
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: of player. Um And I think that's really interesting and

789
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: a guy like that, you don't stay in the lead

790
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: that long without knowing. I guess how to win. I guess,

791
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: like my question for you, I guess like he might start.

792
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: I guess as well, do you see him as well

793
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: as like just just a plug and play type of guy,

794
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: like you could just put him anywhere. I think He's

795
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: gonna be really important defensively, which is to say we're

796
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: a thirty six year old. But again we talked about

797
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: it before. You don't start that many games from Miami

798
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: unless you know what you're doing. Eric Spoelsa doesn't play

799
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: fools as well. I'm excited for him, and he's probably

800
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: in the most minimized role he's ever had, I guess,

801
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: Like I remember him in Houston, but he was a

802
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: big part of the Houston team. He's one of the

803
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: main shop makers, I guess um, and I don't think

804
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: that would be his role here. He's just he'll get

805
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: a few threes, but just do the little stuff. And

806
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: I think he can still do that for twenty minutes

807
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: a game. So I think about Trevor Reza. His comments

808
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: were interesting. Um, he's like, just play me anywhere. I

809
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: really don't care, Like that's I'm here to just do

810
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: the little stuff to win, which is interesting to hear

811
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: about a guy who's, you know, had such a long career.

812
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: So what do you think about his role, I guess

813
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: um and his comments from yesterday, Yeah, the plug and

814
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: play thing was the big thing that I wrote down

815
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: from his interview. Um, you know, It makes sense because

816
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: it's arguably the easiest position to plug into any NBA offense,

817
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: which is the six six to six nine wing who

818
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: can guard the other team's best wing score and can

819
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: knock down thirty ish of wide open corner and wing threes.

820
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: That's that's just the easiest archetype to plug into any

821
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: offense in the NBA. Um. You know, he mentioned, you know,

822
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: the very first thing I said when we signed Trevor Riza,

823
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: if you remember, on this pot, I said, he just

824
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: just played a lot in the last couple of years,

825
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: like minutes, like heavy minutes. Like last year in Miami,

826
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: twenty eight minutes a game was his lowest minutes total

827
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: over the previous like five seasons. Because all of these

828
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: teams that he shows up on lean extremely heavily on

829
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: him because of what he brings the table and how

830
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: valuable it is to an NBA team, you know, And

831
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: and it's a testament to the to his work ethic

832
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: and what he what he brings to the table, and

833
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: and the little niche that he's carved out for himself

834
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: in the NBA as a guy that everybody needs, you know.

835
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: And and it's wild to think about when you when

836
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: you really dig into because I was thinking about this

837
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: with Carmelo, because Carmelo, you know, he said, he said

838
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: in his interviews, like I've been around a minute, you know.

839
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: And and it's kind of crazy because it's his I

840
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: think it's his nineteenth season as well, because he came

841
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: in the same year as Lebron. Uh for him in

842
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: in his nineteen season as a dude who's lost like

843
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: a solid sixty sev of his original athleticism, to still

844
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: have a spot in this league as a rotation player

845
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: on a championship caliber team is such an accomplishment because

846
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: this is a league that every single year brings in

847
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: sixty seventy new players to try to see if they

848
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: fit in the league. And for a guy that's that

849
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: old and that unathletic relative to the young guys coming

850
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: in to continue to carve out a spot both Areza

851
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: and Mellow, it's just a testament to their work ethic

852
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: and their professionalism. And I think and I think it's

853
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: awesome and and also it's just another thing too, is

854
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: it's just you know, veteran savvy. We talked about this

855
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: a lot, the scar tissue that forms from losing basketball games.

856
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: They've over the years of just develop upton innate understanding

857
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: of how to win basketball games. The little things that matter,

858
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: the the little offensive rebound crashes here, the little transition

859
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: sprints there, the little extra clothes out here, the little

860
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: extra effort there that could be the difference between you

861
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: winning a championship and you're losing in the first round.

862
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things that these older guys

863
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: are very attuned to. And you know, that was kind

864
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: of the theme of the press conference was these guys

865
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: they you know, they didn't even view the old stuff

866
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: as bolton board material. You know what they said. They

867
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: said they laughed at it. They laughed at it, and

868
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: as that's as they should, because you know, the when

869
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: you're an older basketball player, you should view that as

870
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: a sense of confidence in your experience, not as a

871
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: as a as a detriment to what you can do

872
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: on the floor. And uh, and yeah, I'm particularly excited

873
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: about a reason. I was probably one of the higher

874
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: Laker people in terms of of how I felt about

875
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: the reasons signing. And I kind of expected him to

876
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: start and I'm glad he's gonna get that opportunity. I

877
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be the rock. I think he's gonna

878
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: be the guy that's just the dependable plug into every

879
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: good Laker lineup that they end up throwing out this year. Yeah,

880
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: and I like that you brought up Karmelo. It's interesting

881
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: hearing him talk as well. He's another guy like he

882
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: speaks like like he's been around, you know, like nothing

883
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: is new to him, and he's another guy just seems

884
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: so comfortable now who he who, like in what he is,

885
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: and for a guy that's been a superstar in this league,

886
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: a top four or five player in this league in

887
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: his prime's interesting to hear him talk about his role

888
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: and how they told him like, hey, you were forty

889
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: three point shooter. Now he's like, yeah, well you kind

890
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: of have to be to stay in the league. So Um,

891
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: it was cool to kind of hear him talk about

892
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: what he's going to be this season. And this is

893
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: like my six or seventh media day. I guess like

894
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: where I really actually followed um the players who talk,

895
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: and it's the first time I feel like we're Every

896
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: single press conference was insightful and every single one of

897
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: them felt like I feel like they could be in

898
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: the rotation. Aside from Austin Reeves, Um, who uh you know,

899
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: who's a young who's a young player that he just signed.

900
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: Other than him, every other player could play. I mean

901
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: thht even who's twenty years old. Um, they were talking

902
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: to him about his like you know, what's your role

903
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: and how you're gonna defend. And this kid's like twenty

904
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: years old. You know. It's just funny to watch. And

905
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: he's gonna be probably in the rotation, So I think

906
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I just want to ask you, like your

907
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: overall theme of Media Day because when I was watching, like,

908
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: you know, we we kind of uh well, I guess

909
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: it's our job to kind of go into the details

910
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: and be really granular and you know, talk about the

911
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: percentages and talk about you know, the healthy like how

912
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: the defense is gonna work. And sometimes they also feel

913
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: like we overcomplicate stuff like Russ, Lebron and Navy is

914
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: just a shipload of talent, and then there's just another

915
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: there's just a bunch of other shipload of talent on

916
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: the team. Like when I'm watching Media Day and they're

917
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: taking pictures together, it's Carmelo, Dwight, Lebron, a d Russ.

918
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: Like sometimes we just overcomplicate stuff. So and I ask you, like,

919
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: what was your overall theme? I guess the media day,

920
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: watching uh, watching all the players and stuff talk from mytery,

921
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm with you. I picked up on

922
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: the insightfulness too. There were a couple of guys who

923
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: were a little short, like you know, I thought that

924
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: Malik Monk was kind of just you know, uh not.

925
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: I think it was just trying to get through the interview,

926
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: kind of a kind of deal, uh, you know. But

927
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: but all the guys. You know, this is another asset

928
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: to being older, is you know, you've been in so

929
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: many press conferences that you've developed a sense of of

930
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: just comfort and confidence in those types of environments so

931
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: different than you and I do in podcasts. I'm sure

932
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: if we went back and listen to our first podcast,

933
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: you and I would be, you know, completely blown away

934
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: by how far we've come in terms of just how

935
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: comfortable we are. And I think that's natural and you're

936
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: going to see that with older teams. They're just wiser

937
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: and more thoughtful just because they've been around longer. You know,

938
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: in terms of overthinking the roster, I'm percent with you.

939
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean, a less talented version of this team in

940
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: one at a win pace and before the bubble, and

941
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: then and then went into the bubble and basically killed everybody. Um.

942
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: Last year they were winning at a sixty four win

943
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: paste before everyone got hurt. They had a little bit

944
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: more talent than the previous year, but it was kind

945
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: of a more clunky fit. Well, this is the most

946
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: talented of all three teams and the clearest, most obvious

947
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: basketball fit in terms of of of what would what

948
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: would work in the modern NBA. So, you know, I

949
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: think you're gonna Everyone might rub this in my face

950
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: if it goes off the rails, but I'm extremely confident

951
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: in this group. I've said it before on this podcast.

952
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win sixty five games. I don't

953
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: think people understand how quickly this is gonna all mesh

954
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: together in terms of just the sheer amount of shot

955
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: creation mixed with shooting ability on the floor, and and

956
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: with the spacing that they're going to be going to

957
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: be playing with. You know, you're right, like we should.

958
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: We shouldn't overthink this by any stretch of the imagination.

959
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: They have a competition that will push them all to

960
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: get better and stay motivated during the regular season, they

961
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: have Russ's motor and all the things that that's gonna do.

962
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: For Anthony Davis and his inconsistent effort, and just the

963
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: overall vibe of the team on on any given night.

964
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: You know, I think we all know we can get

965
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: what we're gonna get out of Lebron, but obviously with

966
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: younger players and with other players, it's a little bit

967
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: more of an ebb and flow, and having a guy

968
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: like Russ around to invigorate those guys is a huge

969
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: is a huge asset. But at the end of the day,

970
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's really a simple basketball concept. You

971
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: want to generate quality shots, right, and the there's two

972
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: elements to that. Kenya cave in the defense, so that

973
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: there are guys that are gonna have open shots, and

974
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: are those guys going to be capable of knocking them

975
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: down at a high percentage. Well, in previous years, they've

976
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: had lots of guys who could generate the quality shots

977
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: in Lebron and Anthony Davis and Dennis Schroeder, even Rondo

978
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: a little bit that first year, but everyone was just

979
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: kind of okay at making shots, and that ended up

980
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: being a problem for them unless Lebron and a d

981
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: were just pounding the ball in the paint and nothing

982
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: and no one could stop them. So this is gonna

983
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: be that first year where these kickouts and and these

984
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: guys attacking these closeouts are going to be really high level,

985
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: skilled basketball players. I've talked about this on the pod before,

986
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: but six of the free agents they signed this summer

987
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: shot over from three last year, and one of them,

988
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: Kendrick Nun, shot thirty eight percent. But he had a

989
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: really tough shot profile, and if you look at his

990
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: open shots he shot him I think like forty six

991
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: percent or something on open threes. So at the end

992
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: of the day, I think you're gonna people are gonna

993
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: be blown away at how quickly this picks up. You know, Frank,

994
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: this is actually a good thing for us to end

995
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: on because I know we need to be out of

996
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: here in five minutes. I'm interested to hear your opinion

997
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: on it. Frank was asked about the defense and he goes,

998
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: you know, we we lost some good perimeter defenders. We did.

999
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: He's like, but um, we still have good perimeter defenders.

1000
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: And he explicitly said, I don't think we have any

1001
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: liabilities now. I would disagree with him. I think Malik

1002
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Monk is probably a little bit of a liability in

1003
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: terms of his ability to guard a bigger, stronger players

1004
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: who might get him on switches. And obviously, you know,

1005
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan is coming off of a few really bad

1006
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: defensive seasons, so obviously there there are some defensive liabilities. However,

1007
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: we I've said before on the pod that they do

1008
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: have lineups they can go to that are going to

1009
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: be strong defensively. But the big thing that Frank talked about,

1010
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: and this is something that's really important as he goes,

1011
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of up to the guys is

1012
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna I'm gonna go in there and I'm

1013
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: going to coach defense, but it's about them and whether

1014
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: or not they buy in. And and that's the truth,

1015
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: because we have all seen good defensive coaches have bad

1016
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: defensive teams because of a lack of buying. I mean,

1017
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: look at the Pelicans last year. Stay In van Gundhi

1018
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: has always been a good defensive coach. Those guys just

1019
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: didn't buy in and it hurt them over the course

1020
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: of the season because their stars didn't buy in. Obviously,

1021
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: the Lakers are gonna have the ability to quote unquote

1022
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: get it back on the other end this year, right,

1023
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna have the ability to, oh, we gave up

1024
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: an easy layup on a back cut, We'll just go

1025
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: down and score because we have the offensive ability to

1026
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: score this year, which they didn't have in previous seasons,

1027
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: which is part of the reason why they engaged so

1028
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: much on the defensive end of the floor. Well, the

1029
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: pathway to the Lakers being capable of beating a team

1030
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: like Brooklyn is being able to get it back on

1031
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: the other end, but wanting to get stops anyway, and

1032
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: and buying into that end anyway. And it starts from

1033
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: the top down. And Lebron has had a tendency in

1034
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: the past two when he's on really good offensive teams

1035
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: take it a little bit easier on the defensive end.

1036
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: As long as Anthony Davis and Russe and Lebron buy

1037
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: in on that end anyway and still have the ability

1038
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: to score on the other end. That's the path to

1039
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: the ceiling of this team. And I still think it's there.

1040
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: But I thought it was really interesting that Frank brought up, like,

1041
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: you know, hey, there's only so much I can do

1042
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: these guys gotta want to do it. Um, So what's

1043
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: your opinion on Frank's comments about the defense. Yeah, so

1044
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you hear like Polinka also because

1045
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: then they've talked about how this is all collaborative process,

1046
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: right blink, Polinka, Vocal, the stars, everything, putting the team

1047
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: together Blinka a couple of days ago. Um, he said,

1048
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, defense definitely is about the personnel, Like that's

1049
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: obviously part of it, but it's also part of the scheme,

1050
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: and it's also part of how you teach it. And

1051
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: they also a part of how guys buy in and

1052
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: you've you've and you've definitely seen that with how the

1053
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: how the team is, how the team is built as well.

1054
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: So I think they're betting on that. But they're betting

1055
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: on Vocal scheme. They're betting on They're betting on him

1056
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: to be able to transfer his defense over year to year.

1057
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: Last year there was a ton of turnover and they

1058
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: still as Polinka talked about how the number one defense

1059
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: in the league, And I think they're betting on that,

1060
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: and now is that a good bet? We'll see. I

1061
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: do think they've dropped off on defense. I do think

1062
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: you have to give the perimeter defenders that walked out

1063
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: of the door some credit here, Casey be crue. So

1064
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: we're great, you know, in their role as defenders. So

1065
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: we'll see. But I like the thing. I think we

1066
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Speaker 1: talked about this earlier as well, with Vocal saying there's

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Speaker 1: no liabilities, and I think that's important. These guys don't

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Speaker 1: have to be above average defenders for the way the

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Speaker 1: team is built. They just don't. The offense is good

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Speaker 1: enough to where they don't have to be a d

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Speaker 1: is good enough to as an help defender, where they

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Speaker 1: don't have to be above average defender. They just don't

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Speaker 1: have to be liabilities. If all these guards become average defenders,

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Speaker 1: I think you have a great defense just the way

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Speaker 1: that the team is built. So I think it's okay

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Speaker 1: to look at it that way. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: way Vogel sees as well. He's gonna try to get

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Speaker 1: more out of them. I think there is simply but

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Speaker 1: with defensive talent. Taylor Horn Tucker, his first question yesterday

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Speaker 1: was on his defense, like how he's you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, like how he's going to be focused on defense,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the theme here and that's the

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Speaker 1: role here. And can you get the buying from the stars.

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Speaker 1: If you get the buying from the stars, everything kind

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Speaker 1: of else trickles down. And you know, a D and

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Speaker 1: nine was the leading the leader of the defense. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's his job this year too, um to

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Speaker 1: find that, to find who can be the defender. Um

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Speaker 1: to kind of make his mark on this team. And

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Speaker 1: and that's what he's gonna have to do. And I

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Speaker 1: think they can. So we'll see how how it works

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Speaker 1: on on the first day, but I think they still

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Speaker 1: can be, like I think I said before, like a

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Speaker 1: top seven defense, and I think that's good enough to

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Speaker 1: where I think the offense is gonna be absolutely bolstered

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Speaker 1: this year with the talent they have. Yeah, it's all

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Speaker 1: that buying, correct about that, as far as the personnel

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Speaker 1: goes in terms of their talent. You know, they were

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Speaker 1: the number one defense last year, and everyone associates it

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Speaker 1: to traditional Lakers basketball, so to speak, and there's some

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Speaker 1: truth to that. But don't forget like they were essentially

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Speaker 1: in the front court defensively last year because Anthony Davis

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Speaker 1: and Lebron missed the you know, a significant chunk of

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Speaker 1: the season and uh, there are other bigs that they

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Speaker 1: brought in to replace Dwight and Javail were not vertical

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Speaker 1: defensive threats. You know. Marcusol actually kind of became a

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Speaker 1: blow average defensive center last year because of his inability

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Speaker 1: to guard in the space and pick and roll and

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Speaker 1: because he's not the same presence underneath the basket that

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Speaker 1: he used to be. Montrese Harold just really not that

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00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: good of a defensive player. You know, Andre Drummond had

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Speaker 1: his moments, but he wasn't really on the team for

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Speaker 1: most of the season, and they still had the number

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Speaker 1: one defense. You know, everyone is so focused on the

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Speaker 1: guards this year, and what they don't realize is just

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Speaker 1: plugging Lebron and a d back in is a huge

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Speaker 1: influx of defensive talent in the front court. And then

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Speaker 1: you also have Dwight Howard as a as a much much, much,

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Speaker 1: much much better defensive player than Marcusol and Montrese Harrold

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Speaker 1: were Trevor Reyes as a player that the Lakers haven't

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Speaker 1: had over the last two years. You know, that really

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Speaker 1: fundamentally sound like classic archetype of an NBA wing defender. There,

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Speaker 1: I would argue, there's actually more defensive talent actually available

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Speaker 1: on the floor, god willing. If with injuries, then there

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Speaker 1: was last year and they were the number one defense.

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Speaker 1: I think people are overthinking that a little bit. Well

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Speaker 1: it look different than last year. Yeah, it's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be the same scheme without a doubt, but it's it's doable.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the last thing I'll say about it

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Speaker 1: before we get out of here is, you know, there

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00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: are ways to scheme around defensive liabilities when the time comes.

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Speaker 1: There are they're like they're they called pre switching. So

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Speaker 1: for instance, like you have Trey Young on a guy

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Speaker 1: in the corner and he's hiding over there, and you

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00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: know the primary ball handler at the top key uh

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Speaker 1: say it's Drew Holiday, calls for p J. Tucker to

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00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: come up and set a screen so he can get

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Speaker 1: Trey Young on the ball. Well, what they'll do is

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Speaker 1: they'll pre switch when p J. Tucker goes, they'll just

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Speaker 1: keep Tray Young down there and they'll send another defender

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Speaker 1: up with p J. Tucker and just leave try Young

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Speaker 1: in a different spot on the floor. That's an example

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00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: of a way to fight that. There's also just simple

1144
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 1: double recover type rotations that you can use to try

1145
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: to make it so that you're forcing them to make

1146
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: complex passes out of double teams rather than just isolating

1147
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: your worst player defensively. There are there are ways to

1148
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: work around this, and Frank is the man for the

1149
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: job in my opinion. He's absolutely capable of figuring out

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00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: how to make this work. So i'm i'm I remained

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00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: very confident that the Lakers will be one of the

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Speaker 1: top tier defenses in the league this year. Is there

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Speaker 1: anything else you wanted to touch on with media day

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Speaker 1: before we get out of here? Uh? Now, I think

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Speaker 1: that I think we covered it pretty nicely. Um, I

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Speaker 1: just want to thank everyone for the support I guess

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00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: during the over the whole summer it's been it's been awesome.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get started here. Um. Shout out to dash

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Speaker 1: Radio our new kind of partnership there. But yeah, thanks someone.

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00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: The support has been crazy, so Jason and I really

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00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: appreciate it. But we're excited to get started here. Preseason

1162
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Speaker 1: games in four days. So everyone had a really good,

1163
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: good off season. Again, thanks everyone for the support here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm on the same page. We'd. I've been blown away

1165
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: the support and quite frankly, like I think this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be one of the funniest seasons, uh, in the

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Speaker 1: history of the Lakers franchise. And I think that I

1168
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Speaker 1: think that we're all in for the ride, and Roger

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Speaker 1: and I are going to do our best to cover

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Speaker 1: it as best as we can. And we appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys being there with us, and we look forward to

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00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: the spaces where we can have you guys pop up

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00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: here with us and and and talk some hoops, you know,

1174
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: face to face, and have some fun that way as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody you've been listening to the State of

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Speaker 1: the Lakers show on DASH Radio. Thank you guys so

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Speaker 1: much for your support and we will see you on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everyone,