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Speaker 1: Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for House of the Dragon

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Speaker 1: season two, episode three. You have been warned watch that

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Speaker 1: before listening to this. Hello. My name is Jason Sepsione.

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Speaker 2: And i'm modsday Night, and welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Thanks My Vision the podcast where we dive deepen to

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Speaker 1: your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture. Coming to

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Speaker 1: Dragon backed episodes a week every Tuesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 2: In today's episode, in the add look it Housed the

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Speaker 2: Dragon Episode three, Whoop? What's going on in West Ross?

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Speaker 2: You're gonna find out there's a lot of drama, lot

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Speaker 2: Shenanigan's lot of betrayal and reunion I'm pretty excited about.

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Speaker 2: In the omnibus, Jason is going to talk about big

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Speaker 2: swing hand of the King picks, who are they? Who?

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Speaker 2: Where's the president for Kristin cole as number on Kristin Cole. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm asking the question and Jason is going to answer it.

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Speaker 2: And in the scoreboard, will Team Black finally put a

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Speaker 2: point on the board. After this episode, we'll have to

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Speaker 2: wait and see.

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Speaker 1: But first House of the Dragon episode three, we open

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Speaker 1: on the Riverlands where these century centuries long feud between

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Speaker 1: the Brackens sworn to egg On and the Blackwoods, sworn

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Speaker 1: to Renier, reignites over a small issue of where the

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Speaker 1: border Cairn pile of stones is located, and the result

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Speaker 1: is thousands of deaths in a skirmish that quickly evolves

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Speaker 1: into a major battle. The war has now truly begun,

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Speaker 1: and I think most troubling to all sides. It began

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Speaker 1: all on its own, without anybody doing anything. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's the impact of this kind of beef that they

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Speaker 2: never really realized is it's giving people free reign to

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Speaker 2: just do what they want feuds and do what they

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Speaker 2: want in the name of the Queen Dragonstone. Eric and

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Speaker 2: Eric Rip they're buried together. They came into the world

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Speaker 2: together and now they share the same grave. My friend

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Speaker 2: Gavin Mattz, the comedian Gavin Matts was like, Eric and

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Speaker 2: Eric are like. It's like when people say talk to

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Speaker 2: your family, like about Trump or about politics or whatever,

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Speaker 2: and what ends up happened? We both end up dead, Okay,

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Speaker 2: And can we just get a bit of clarification see

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Speaker 2: it as you are our official master and also official

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Speaker 2: house dragon pod. Who died first, who died lost, and

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Speaker 2: who killed themselves, because that's been a huge topic of

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Speaker 1: Sure, so again this is Eric and Eric Eric a

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Speaker 1: for Allison died first. Eric slayed Eric. Now you could

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Speaker 1: even though it was like very confusing because Eric wounded

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Speaker 1: Eric in the thigh, in the leg. So that's how

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Speaker 1: you can kind of tell who quote unquote won at

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Speaker 1: the end. And as for why Eric decided to kill

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Speaker 1: himself afterwards, One, this was a terribly traumatic and awful

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Speaker 1: of kin slaying is quite strong, of course in Westros

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Speaker 1: and other places in this world, and it doesn't get

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Speaker 1: more kin slang than killing your twin. And I think

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Speaker 1: after that, Eric just couldn't live with the way that

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Speaker 1: fact that I'm sure Renier would have ordered him incredibly handsomely,

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Speaker 1: but he would have been looked at as a kinsler

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I also saw another thing I saw that I

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Speaker 1: I mean, but you could have this is this is

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Speaker 1: team black, right yeah, and that said, but like, why

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Speaker 1: not change the color of the cloaks, how about different uniforms,

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Speaker 1: how about having a password system, understanding how about like.

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Speaker 2: A helmet that had some goals on it in a

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Speaker 1: Understanding that this twin issue is out there. So I

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Speaker 1: Anyway, So we're Eric and Eric are being buried, and

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Speaker 1: You need to reach out to Allison, she says. Rania says,

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Speaker 1: you know what, my former bestie Allison sent me a

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Speaker 1: raven after Luke's death. But I have not read it.

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Speaker 1: I can't bring myself to read it.

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Speaker 2: Feel like you should have read it. Also, can I

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Speaker 2: have been Queen all along, the most sensible person in Westross.

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Speaker 1: And again, I hate to I can't imagine what Vernia

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Speaker 1: At the same time as a head of state, when

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Speaker 2: Currently in war. I feel like you should read it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta read it, you gotta open it right away.

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Speaker 2: Or just like have someone else read it. It's still

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Speaker 2: If you have to read it, like, please read it.

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Speaker 1: We go to King's Landing where Chris Cole is shitting

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Speaker 1: his pants. Listen, first tough. We all get that first

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Speaker 2: Scary times and Cole.

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Speaker 1: You know, the vibe you get from looking at Cole

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Speaker 2: The two bros. They just believe in each other man.

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Speaker 1: The King, meanwhile, has hired some new white cloaks to

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Speaker 1: the scenes in this episode between Cole and Allison when

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Speaker 2: But you do support them when that fu I will say,

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Speaker 1: But because but they can't just do that whenever and

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Speaker 1: they have public facing jobs. All they do in these

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Speaker 1: Sir Eric lost good kids and that was a good,

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Speaker 1: good job, Kristen Cole, Oh what are you gonna do now?

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Speaker 1: What's your next move? And it's just like they're just

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Speaker 2: If people didn't know, they know now that's right.

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Speaker 1: Eggon is thrilled that war appears to have finally broken

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Speaker 1: the Burning Mill as it's called as a green victory.

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Speaker 1: Alison's like, oh yeah, fucking incredible. What a smart idea.

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Speaker 1: The King's guard is like on its ass, and you say,

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Speaker 2: sorry you lost that fum part of your life now, sir,

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Speaker 1: But don't no need for that. Just stay home.

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Speaker 1: Back on Dragonstone. Rania hires Massaria as her master.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Sea Smoke is continue to be irritated. Is like

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Speaker 1: Now we should note that Sea Smoke is a dragon,

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Speaker 2: Then oh, that's a great call, like he can sense

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Speaker 2: which was Massaria obviously got word back to the castle

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Speaker 1: With like actual battle seeming more and more likely and

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Speaker 1: in fact having taken place, Queen decides, well, maybe not

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Speaker 1: and little Visas to Jane Aaron in the Veil in

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Speaker 2: You know? Like I'm like, I feel like Corley should

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Speaker 1: up with King Eggon, who is putting on egg On

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Speaker 1: the conquerors Valerian armor in preparation of joining Kristen Cole's army.

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Speaker 1: His new King's Guard bros his like his good buddies

431
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Speaker 1: that he hired to the King's ard all yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is that just just like the guys he's chilling drinking with.

433
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Speaker 2: H He's like, yeah, baby, we're going on a wall.

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Speaker 2: We're going on a wall, baby, bros On Tall boys on.

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Speaker 1: Tall Now there are white cloaks, you know, and they're like, yeah,

436
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Speaker 1: a great idea. Laris walks in, he's young, hot lord,

437
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Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? And he you know, he

438
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Speaker 1: says to one of the King's guard, like, I would

439
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Speaker 1: think it would be all to all of our benefit

440
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Speaker 1: to not see the king lose his life and his

441
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Speaker 1: body parts torn apart and strewn across a battlefield. What

442
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Speaker 1: do you think, you fucking idiots? So he goes pulls

443
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Speaker 1: a king aside, and it is like, I have to

444
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Speaker 1: talk the king out of this. So he basically says, listen,

445
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Speaker 1: a couple of rumors flying around. Two versions of the

446
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Speaker 1: same rumor flying around King's landing right now. First version

447
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Speaker 1: of the rumor is King's flying off on sunfire to

448
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Speaker 1: accompany Christian Coal. What a brave, courageous and wise king

449
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Speaker 1: we have. Second rumor is the king has been tricked

450
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Speaker 1: to fly off on sunfire and accompany christ and Coal

451
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Speaker 1: away from the capitol so that his mother, Allison, and

452
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Speaker 1: his baby brother Amond can rule in the capitol. While he.

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Speaker 2: Gandalous, I'm hearing it. I can't tell you where, I

454
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Speaker 2: can't source it, but I'm hearing people are saying it.

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Speaker 1: So that second rumor really resonates with egg On, who

456
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Speaker 1: then changes his mind. It's like, oh, you know what,

457
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Speaker 1: I'll stick around. I guess I guess I can stay.

458
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Speaker 1: I guess I can keep my hand on the wheel here.

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Speaker 1: And then he says, and you know what, Laris, I

460
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Speaker 1: need a master of whispers. I think you're the man

461
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Speaker 1: for the job. And Larius.

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Speaker 2: Larius is like, that's exactly why I wanted to also

463
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Speaker 2: has to say, you know what, I hate to hand

464
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Speaker 2: it to him because he is a gross evil guy.

465
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Speaker 2: But Grris knows what he's doing. He's definitely up there.

466
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Speaker 2: One of the best things about Game of Thrones we're

467
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Speaker 2: seeing the different ways the people played the Game of

468
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Speaker 2: Thrones and kind of tried to, you know, get a

469
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Speaker 2: handle on the wheel. And I think Laris is a

470
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Speaker 2: really nice throwback to that Game of Throne style of

471
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Speaker 2: is the most powerful person in the city, someone that

472
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Speaker 2: you would never expect, and Laris the fact he could

473
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Speaker 2: just go in there and completely change the king's mind

474
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Speaker 2: when other people couldn't suggest that, yes, he is one

475
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Speaker 2: of the most powerful people, even though you might not

476
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Speaker 2: expect it.

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Speaker 1: So, rather than flying off on his dragon to battle,

478
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Speaker 1: the king decides, we're going out. We're going to the clubs.

479
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Speaker 1: I'm taking my boys, I'm taking my king table, We're

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Speaker 1: going to get table service, bottle service. They as they

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Speaker 1: go into an establishment, they interrupt a man who is

482
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Speaker 1: claiming to be and this is the first time we

483
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Speaker 1: hear this word in the show. A Dragon's a Turkey bastard.

484
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Speaker 1: He claims to be the uh, the bastard son of

485
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Speaker 1: bail and the Brave, who of course was the father

486
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Speaker 1: of Vesaras and Damon, making him half brother to the

487
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Speaker 1: king and Prince Damon and you know, related to every

488
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Speaker 1: person seemingly involved in this civil war. And just when

489
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Speaker 1: he is like, he's calling Rania, like, I think his niece.

490
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Speaker 1: You know, he's black, and you know, the only true

491
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Speaker 1: ruler of the realm is my niece, my beautiful baby niece, Ranier.

492
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Speaker 1: And just then with and everything goes silent, and this

493
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Speaker 1: guy's thinking, fuck, I'm about to get killed, but no,

494
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Speaker 1: it's actually the king is here. And the King begins

495
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Speaker 1: throwing money around. They start drinking, getting super drunk. They

496
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: go from there to the to a sex club, to

497
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Speaker 1: a brothel, lots of suns happening all over the place.

498
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Speaker 2: The sex is happening. It's the having sex, having sex,

499
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Speaker 2: having sex everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Egon back because this is the he's the king. So

501
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Speaker 1: what does the king love to do is just look

502
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Speaker 1: in every room where people are coupling as AUTOHI, which

503
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Speaker 1: is like a sleazy thing to do. But he's the king,

504
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Speaker 1: I guess. And he pulls back the curtain and there

505
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Speaker 1: is his brother Aimond in the arms of Madam Sylvie,

506
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Speaker 1: and Eggon immediately, who's going super drunk, starts making fun

507
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Speaker 1: of amend for sleeping with this older woman. Aimed, for

508
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Speaker 1: his part, pretends, you know, we've seen how warmly he

509
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Speaker 1: engages with Madame Sylvie, this kind of motherly way that

510
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: he but instead like he immediately goes cold and just

511
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Speaker 1: pretends like he doesn't care about this woman. And he

512
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Speaker 1: you knows, like, oh, you know, like anybody could have

513
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Speaker 1: her whatever, and he walks off. Raniera is kind of,

514
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Speaker 1: you know, like pacing around her chambers, and then finally

515
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Speaker 1: she opens up the little jeweler box where she has

516
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Speaker 1: Alison's letters, and it's like, I guess I should fucking

517
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Speaker 1: read these things.

518
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Speaker 2: Oh, I wonder why you are keeping it in a

519
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: very special place. Seems gay to me. Why is it

520
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: so important to you?

521
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: Which we don't have the full text of, but you

522
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Speaker 1: can kind of see over her shoulder, it's clear that

523
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Speaker 1: Allison is expressing remorse for Luke's death. We go to

524
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Speaker 1: the river lands where Bayla is patrolling at the Queen's order.

525
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Speaker 1: She's high up in the air as the Queen asked

526
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Speaker 1: her to be, but then down low she spots Cole

527
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Speaker 1: and Sir Gawayne and a small party. They're away from

528
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Speaker 1: the army. They've ridden off because they're going to a

529
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Speaker 1: nearby keep so that they could, you know, have some

530
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Speaker 1: drinks and enjoy themselves. She gives chase, but the Greens

531
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Speaker 1: get away, and then she returns to Dragonstone to say, hey,

532
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: I saw Chris and Cole. Greens are on the march.

533
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: The Black Council wants Raniera to loose the dragons on

534
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: Cole's army because now we know that they're moving, we

535
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Speaker 1: got to do They're in the open, like we got

536
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Speaker 1: to do something. And Raniera is like, uh yeah, let

537
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Speaker 1: me sleep on it. And by the way, Beila, didn't

538
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: I tell you to say hi? Why did you go

539
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: so long? Like how did you know it was Kristen Cole?

540
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: And she was like, well, because I like went ten

541
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Speaker 1: feet from them and I down the ground, I saw

542
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: them and like I and listen, I was thinking, uh,

543
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: maybe I could strike a blow right here, like maybe

544
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Speaker 1: I'll take him out. Damon in Harron Hall has a vision,

545
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: very very spooky yeah dream slash vision of young Rania

546
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: the princess is on the you know, she's like knelt

547
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: on the floor and she's cradling the dead prince Jaharis,

548
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: and she's like sewing his head back on, and all

549
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: the while she is saying, essentially that she's always having

550
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: to clean up Damon's messes and look what he's done.

551
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Speaker 1: When Damon wakes up, he finds himself in the gods

552
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: wood of Heron Hall, which is a beautiful ruined area

553
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: in front of the Heart Tree that overlooks the gods,

554
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: the big old mysterious gods I like, And he's standing

555
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: there with a woman who they don't mention her name,

556
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: but this is for book readers. This is got to

557
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: be Alice Rivers. And she says to Damon, you will

558
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: die in this place, and then she walks off, which

559
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: is wow, what a thing to say.

560
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, okay, So let me let me ask you.

561
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: Is he having the visions because he is in Haroen Hall?

562
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: Like?

563
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: Is it the cursed energy of Haroen Hall? Is this

564
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: like his own guilt? Do you feel like there's obviously

565
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: without spoilers, is this supernatural? Is this Helena esque premonitions?

566
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: Is this Tagaria madness?

567
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: Like?

568
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: What are the vibes you're getting from this this episode.

569
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Speaker 1: I think this is supernatural, very clearly, and I have

570
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: a theory and I'll save it for later. I don't

571
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: want to. I think it goes too deep for now.

572
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: But ok yeah, Rania, with Missaria's aid, in a huge

573
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: diversion from the books, an event that the books don't cover,

574
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: hatches a hail Mary plan to avert all out war.

575
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Speaker 2: Does that mean it was a really really good plan?

576
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: I think that's what history was able to. I think

577
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: this remains secret to this, to to later historians. So Raniera,

578
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: taking only Sir Stephan Darkland, her sworn sword, member of

579
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Speaker 2: the Queen's Guard with her all in disguise. With Raniera

580
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: disguised as Scepta.

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Speaker 1: Sneaks into King's Landing and then makes her way to

582
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Speaker 1: the Great Sept where Allison is known to often be praying,

583
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Speaker 1: and she approaches Alison and basically says like, we should

584
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: make peace, and Alison's like it's impossible now, and you

585
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: know that that goes nowhere, and then Reniera eventually is like, okay,

586
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: so what happened Like in the last hours of Visa's life,

587
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: you talk about me, what did he say? Did he

588
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: say anything, and Allison mentions that Visas was talking about

589
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: egg on the Conqueror and the Song of Ice and

590
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: Fire prophecy as he was dying, and this shocks Raniera

591
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: and Alison to turn is shocked by Rania's reaction, realizing that, oh,

592
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: I've struck a chord here, this is something important, like

593
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: what is this? Alison turns down Rania's peace offering, but

594
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: let's Raniera go and does not alert anyone to her presence,

595
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: so there's a door left open. Yeah, but let me

596
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: just say this. And I know we've been for the

597
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: fans of Team Black, you know, maybe you feel I've

598
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: been too critical of Arnira. We've been too great.

599
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: We've been a little bit. We've been a little bit

600
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Speaker 2: harsh on on Team Black in that plan.

601
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Speaker 1: This is an incredible move, what an incredible secret mission

602
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: to try and find an off ramp to this thing.

603
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: And it was a tremendous risk, but I think it

604
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: was worth the risk, and I think what it's very

605
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: sad to me and frustrating that Raniera took this risk

606
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: and then threw it away by essentially saying to Alison, hey,

607
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: let's make peace. Here's my version of peace. You guys

608
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Speaker 1: quit eggon steps down and you give me the throne

609
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: and walk and you guys walk away in that side.

610
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: I know, couldn't she couldn't she have just come up with,

611
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: like we can marry our kids together, like you tell me,

612
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 2: you know, like I I will be queen now because

613
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: you guys try to u s up me. But I'm

614
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: happy to marry our kids together so they can both

615
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: be the ads or something. I feel like like, why

616
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: would you take the life saving risk without going with

617
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: an actual olive.

618
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: Frau fucking crazy and just it's really arrogant. And this

619
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: is where, like you know, I this is where you

620
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: start seeing. This is this is ego. You know what

621
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean? This is true. I love Ren. She obviously

622
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: loves her kids. With the scene where her and Jason

623
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: embrace over the loss of Luke, it's so hard. She

624
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: loves your children. The way you know, we see the

625
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: way she says goodbye to the little ones is they're

626
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: sent off to the veil. It's so heartrending. At the

627
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: same time, she's willing to let all of them die

628
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: if she can get the throne. She's willing to pay

629
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: that price, and it's in this moment that you're really

630
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: confronted with it face to face and to your point,

631
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: like I'm a little shocked, Like why can't you say, Okay,

632
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: how about this? Whoever, let's say we take Jiharah, we

633
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: married Jaharah to Jeoffrey, my little Joffrey, and then their

634
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: kids will will sit on the irons throne? What about that?

635
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: Like yeah, and also as well, like you can still

636
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: you can still basically be the dowager queen. It's not

637
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 2: gonna make any difference to you and Eggon and Helena,

638
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: or I'll give them lots of land, Like there's all

639
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: different ways. Because the truth is, I do feel like

640
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: with how out of control the young hot lords are

641
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: right now, I feel like two strong women and with

642
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: a thoughtful plan coming together could actually squash all of

643
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: this and they would just have to listen to their

644
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: moms because they are still that young. But Ranera goes

645
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: there and instead it's almost like she is back to

646
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: that teenager who feels like this is her entitlement and

647
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: she's angry that ever no one will respect the fact

648
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: her dad chose her as ah So she's like, hey,

649
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 2: U super, how about you you skip off that throat

650
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: it's gone too far now you need to offer something.

651
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Speaker 1: It was really really frustrating to see that. And for

652
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: Allison's part, you know, Alison is in a bind because

653
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: she is on a team that has been organized under

654
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: the principle forget all the family stuff and the personal feelings.

655
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: But they're like organizing principle of Team Green is a

656
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: woman cannot rule. So yeah, Allison's influence is limited to

657
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: like soft influence, like backroom conversations. She can't come out

658
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: and be like, do this, and she need an ally

659
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: to help her convince people on her side to do

660
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: things that she thinks would help the team because she

661
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: can't do it overtly because Team Green, their whole thing

662
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: is like we don't need to listen to women, Like

663
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: that's their whole raised on death. So it's she's in

664
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: a very very tough spot. But like, gosh, I was

665
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: hoping that Raniero would come with more, But I think

666
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: you're You're really right, Rosie, in that the fact that

667
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: this isn't in the book suggests to us that this

668
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: remains secret. This remained top secret mm hmm all the

669
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: way through, all the way through to.

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Speaker 2: That, and that means that that was this thing between

671
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: between the two of them that they never shed again,

672
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: kind of hinting at that closeness and that relation, the

673
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: importance of that relationship.

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Speaker 1: Well, we can't wait to see what happens next. We

675
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: await episode four, which by all accounts is the big episode.

676
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: That's what everyone's everyone's warning us that that's the that's

677
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: the oh shit episode, So we shall see. I mean,

678
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: think about it, We've already we've already been through so

679
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: much in this opening half of the season. I can't

680
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: really comprehend, Like, if you're the first episode of this season,

681
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: you know, ended with a baby being killed and like

682
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: two of the most famous characters from the books being adapted.

683
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Speaker 2: So what you have to do for episode four to

684
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Speaker 2: be that episode? I'm very excited to see.

685
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Speaker 1: Up next to the Honorbus, Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Omnibus, where law, analysis and understanding come together. Today

687
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Speaker 1: we're talking about croveball picks for Hand of the King

688
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: in honor of Christian Cole, Lord Commander of the King's Guard,

689
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: being named Hand of the King. Let's talk about out

690
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: some of those out of the box picks. Now, first

691
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: of all, we should say that Christian Cole's ascension to

692
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: handle the king from king's guard is precedented. This has

693
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: happened before. It happened during the reign of Jaharis the Conciliator,

694
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Speaker 1: when Ryan RedWine, who is a you know, one of

695
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: the most famed nights of his day, this, you know,

696
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: a real in terms of a warrior, like a uh,

697
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: you know, a damon targarian level type of fighter who

698
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: was named to hand of the king, taking over for

699
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: the long serving Sceptin Barth. Now, Ryan RedWine sucked at

700
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: his fucking job. He was bad at it.

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Speaker 2: Oh Okay, I was gonna say, is this like another

702
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 2: I was gonna say. I was gonna make a joke

703
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: and be like, oh so, I'm guessing he didn't get

704
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: it by just sleeping with the queen. But he also

705
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: wasn't good at his job.

706
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: Right, not a ton of He was just bad at it,

707
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: you know. Like I I think that the critique that

708
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: comes down through the histories and the various references in

709
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: the books is basically that, and it's the kind of

710
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: same thing that we expect from Kristen Cole is that,

711
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, to a warrior, everything can be solved with

712
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: a sword, and that is not the role of hand

713
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: of the king, and so Ryan red Wine was he

714
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: lasted like less than a year, and that was moved

715
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: out for Bailon Tagery and the King's son, by the way,

716
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Speaker 1: the dad of Visis and Damon. Now Ryan took over

717
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Speaker 1: from I think an equally out of the box pick

718
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: which is sept and bar sept and barth came from

719
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Speaker 1: a very very you know, lowly social position. He was

720
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Speaker 1: the son of a blacksmith. Blacksmith apparently could not support

721
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Speaker 1: a family, so gave him to the Faith of the Seven,

722
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: where he apparently thrived. And he became a very learned

723
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: person with regards to letters in history and organizing of

724
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: records and archives.

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00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: And so.

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00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: He went to King's landing, as you know, basically to

727
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: like organize the Red Keeps library. He came to the

728
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: notice of King Jaharis, who raised him to hand, much

729
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: to everybody's surprise. This is after the previous hand had

730
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: resigned and Septain Barth lo and Behold held the office

731
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: for forty one years and by many accounts is the

732
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: greatest hand of the king that there ever was, like

733
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: you know, produced the crown's debts, helped with you know,

734
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Speaker 1: one of the things that among the many things that

735
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Speaker 1: Jaharis did was like evolve the Kingdom's laws, bring the

736
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Speaker 1: laws the kind of disparate local laws of the realm

737
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Speaker 1: in line with the Crown's laws. And Barth helped with

738
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: that administratively. It was super, super super important.

739
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that was going to lead me to a question,

740
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Speaker 2: which was, like, what do you think makes a good hand, Like, historically,

741
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: what would you look for in a hand, because we

742
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: have seen a lot of hands who are just self serving. Otto.

743
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: You know, he wasn't necessarily a bad hand, but he

744
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: was a hand with a severe agenda. Yeah, that was

745
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 2: to serve himself and his plans. What do you think, like,

746
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: what are the top three things if you're going to

747
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: be coaching and you're picking a new hand, Like, what

748
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: are the top three things you look for?

749
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: I think you look for wealth, you know, I think Otto.

750
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: I think when it's all said and done, that Otto's

751
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: track record is hand of the King will be pretty divisive.

752
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: That said, I think he had a lot of the

753
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: tools to be good at it. He came from a

754
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: very very wealthy and powerful family, I tell and that

755
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: gives a person connections and an understanding of how to

756
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: move money around. You know, like the economy of westruss

757
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: is pretty simple compared to like a monor economy. But

758
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: it's important to understand how to keep the crown in

759
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: the black, so to speak. You can't don't beggar the crown,

760
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: which is a thing that we've seen in Game of

761
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: Thrones and we've seen it other Euros during the history

762
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: of this realm. So do you understand money, do you

763
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: have do you understand people? Do you have connections to

764
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: a lot of other families? Do you understand politics? Now, Barth,

765
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: it would seem would not have these kind of things

766
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: just on first glance, but he was such a well

767
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: read individual that that carried him through. And then the

768
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: fact that he had I think this is like an

769
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: ancillary benefit, the fact that he had no family whose

770
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: agenda he was looking to advance. See, that's the problem

771
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: with High Tower or time Lanist or a lot of

772
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: these other hands of the king. A lot of the

773
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: problem with them is they're looking to advance the fortunes

774
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: of their own family, sometimes ahead of the realm's fortune.

775
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: That's like a very common problem with hands of the king.

776
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: And I think you have to be careful with that,

777
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: so you know, I would probably looking at like third

778
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: and fourth sons or maybe the not denoable members of

779
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: a certain family, you know, like weirdly, I think Laris

780
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: would be really good because, yeah, he doesn't seem to

781
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: be like team strong, looking to do anything. He doesn't

782
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: have any kids. Like not having kids I think is

783
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: a big one, like.

784
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're not worried about your ass. Yeah. And

785
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: also with Laris, I think you make a good point

786
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: because he is more likely to be interested in the

787
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: wellness of the realm, because that would serve him away

788
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 2: from the wellness of his family because his family doesn't

789
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: like him, it doesn't treat him well. So he has

790
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: like an invested interest in the realm doing well if

791
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: he is part of the.

792
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: Realm exactly right now. There was another member of the

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00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: King's Guard Lord Commander of the King's Guard who served

794
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: as hand of the King at the same time. This

795
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: is Marston Waters. In later years, we're not gonna speak

796
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: about him because it might be spoilery stuff even though

797
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: it oh okay decades, but just to be just to

798
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: let people know that this does happen again, and that

799
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: if you happen to be interested in, like, oh, a

800
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: hand of the King that is also King's Guard. If

801
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: you see the name Martian Waters, just don't click on it.

802
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: Don't click on it.

803
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: Don't click on if you don't want to spoil law.

804
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: Right, But all that is to say that Marston Waters

805
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: some of those weaknesses that we talked about, which is

806
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: an ambition, family ambitions, looking to advance the fortunes of

807
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: one's family, and you know over that of the realms.

808
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: This is something that that Marston kind of had a

809
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: lot of plotting going on with Hands of the King.

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00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: So that's it. So those are to this point in history,

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00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: those are really the out of the box picks for

812
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: hand in the King. You have sept In Barth, you

813
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: who came from almost nothing, from a very very lowly background,

814
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: to rise to become the greatest hand of the King

815
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: the realm had ever seen. You had a successor, Ryan RedWine,

816
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: who was Lord Commander of the King's Guard at that

817
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: time and sucked though to be fair to him, huge

818
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 1: shoes that he had to fill. And now you have, yeah,

819
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean you have Lord Commander of the King's Guard

820
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: and hand of the King Kristen Cole the second person

821
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: in the history of the realm to ascend from Lord

822
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: Commander to hand and to do both of those things

823
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: at the same time. All right, Rosie, let's go to

824
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: our score card. Who is winning we right now? So

825
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: we had Team Green put a point on the board.

826
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: They're winning the scores currently two zero Team Green, Team Black,

827
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: with both of our votes going to Team Green. Last episode,

828
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: who gets a point? This episode? Who do you see

829
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: oh as winning?

830
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so, with the events of the episode, it does

831
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: feel like Team Black should get a point because of

832
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: Raniera's plan. But as we broke it down, do we

833
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: feel like she delivered the fact that she looked the

834
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: fact Raniera was able to craft this plan and never

835
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: get into the history books, and she extended this olive branch,

836
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: took that risk. This is that kind of direct action

837
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: we've been wanting from Raniera, but she didn't make the

838
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: most of it. And also, you know what we're seeing

839
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: in this episode, We are seeing Team Green is planning

840
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: for the future. Yeah, Team Green's thinking about what if

841
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: we get wiped out? Team Green is you know, there's

842
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: there's things that are happening here with I'm thinking also,

843
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about release. Yeah, I'm thinking, Oh, I don't know, Jason,

844
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: who are you going for? Because I'm I'm just I'm

845
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: thinking that this is a hard one this episode because

846
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: there's no clear Raniera should be the clear winner, but

847
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: she kind of fumbled the ball at the last minute.

848
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: So I'm still I think it might be a draw

849
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: for this reason. Of a Team Green, I think has

850
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: made some important moves. They're fielding an army. Now the

851
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: army is marching towards off towards the river lands. But

852
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: Bayla saw the army knows that they're moving, so now

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Speaker 1: the Blacks know that that's happening. We have Team Black

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Speaker 1: agitating for action with Raniera not being able to deliver that.

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Speaker 1: But Reniera did make some moves that I that I

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Speaker 1: think are really important, which is safeguard in the future.

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Speaker 1: We mean the cast of the veil. I think that

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Speaker 1: was important that needed to happen.

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Speaker 2: Ending the dragons eggs. I think that was a smart

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 1: Was you know, that's the stuff that needs to happen.

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Speaker 1: But to your point, and the sept Summit was a

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Speaker 1: real missed opportunity if you cared about peace, and so

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that this is a draw. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a draw.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I don't think anybody picked to put

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Speaker 2: to put one over the other.

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Speaker 1: And not to mention that, you know, when you look

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Speaker 1: at the battle that occurred at the Burning Mill between

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Speaker 1: the black Woods and the Brackens, the black Woods Team Black,

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Speaker 1: the Brackens Team Green, that in itself looked like just

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Speaker 1: like a mask, like a massive and very costly massacre

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Speaker 1: with no strategic you know, victory won by either side.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's a draw all around. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: heartened by some of the moves that I see from

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Speaker 1: Team Black, but also like extremely frustrated by the missed

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Speaker 1: opportunity to accept meeting. And you know, this can all

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Speaker 1: go left in a big way for Team Green if

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Speaker 1: somebody doesn't keep an eye on egg On do like

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Speaker 1: this guy wants to get out the guy.

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Speaker 2: He's drinking, He's gonna get on a dragon while he's drunk.

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Speaker 2: Like Also, I would say the reason that I agree

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Speaker 2: with your draw is because, in the same way, we

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Speaker 2: also have Damon on Team Black, who is kind of

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Speaker 2: that chaotic element, like it does seem like he's making

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Speaker 2: good plans taking Haron Hall. That seems like a win.

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Speaker 2: But can we trust him? This is the man heads

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Speaker 2: chopped off? Can we trust his decision making? Is this

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Speaker 2: gonna come back to bite RINERA and Team Black? So

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think it's I think it's

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Speaker 2: one to Green and one to Black. I think or

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Speaker 2: half a point each. Yeah, So it's Team Green three,

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Speaker 2: Team Black one. At this point on Thursday's episode of

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Speaker 2: X ray Vision, we're diving into episode six of The

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Speaker 2: Acolyte and discussing all the superpowered mayhem from the first

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Speaker 2: half of season four of The Gold That's it for

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Speaker 2: this episode.

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