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Speaker 1: I think one thing We've consistently seen in sports and

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Speaker 1: I watched the entire second half in both overtimes and

429
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Speaker 1: was glued it was. It was a fantastic game. But

430
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Speaker 1: the NBA never feels like that. I mean, those are

431
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Speaker 1: two of the most famous players, the two most famous

432
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Speaker 1: players in the NBA just have an unreal games. It

433
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Speaker 1: was awesome, it felt like it really mattered to both teams.

434
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: That's how all football games feel because most football games

435
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: have implications that matter, right, And that's what one thing

436
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: these other sports struggle with is no baseball game throughout

437
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: one sixty two really matters that much till the end

438
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: of the season is like must win to get the

439
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Speaker 1: wildcard spot, but like no game in the middle of

440
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Speaker 1: June matters at all. And people, I think, I told

441
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Speaker 1: Colin this, I'm a big believer. And I think the

442
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Speaker 1: NFL has so many women watching right now that it's

443
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Speaker 1: a huge addition to the sport. I think they have

444
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Speaker 1: so many women, Like if you put the amount of

445
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Speaker 1: women that watched those two games yesterday, they would outrate

446
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Speaker 1: every playoff game for baseball or basketball yesterday, right, And

447
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Speaker 1: some of those are in groups. But like my mom

448
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: does not miss a Chiefs game. She's from Davis, California, right,

449
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: she just loves Andy Reid and she loves chief And

450
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Speaker 1: I think there's a Obviously the gambling has added to it,

451
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Speaker 1: but I think the importance, the once a week nature

452
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Speaker 1: of the sport has just led to we live in

453
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Speaker 1: a society where people like being part of big things,

454
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Speaker 1: right and right now football feels really really big, and

455
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Speaker 1: those other sports have just lost it. And yesterday watching

456
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes or the forty nine Ers game, like, there's

457
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Speaker 1: a communal aspect. I remember being a kid in the nineties,

458
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Speaker 1: and I mean you can look up some of the epic,

459
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Speaker 1: legendary finales in just television shows right from even the

460
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Speaker 1: eighties when I was really really young. I remember my

461
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Speaker 1: dad loves Cheers. I think like ninety five million people

462
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Speaker 1: watched the last episode of Cheers. Obviously, the last episode

463
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Speaker 1: of Seinfeld and Friends, and some of these shows were

464
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Speaker 1: just absolutely massive. There was a huge communal aspect. Well,

465
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, you're watching Apple TV, I'm watching

466
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Speaker 1: Prime Video, You're playing video games, I'm on my phone.

467
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Speaker 1: Everyone's it's so segmented. It's never been more segmented. I

468
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: was thinking about this because I saw on Instagram a

469
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Speaker 1: picture of like Blockbuster and then like kids in twenty

470
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: twenty four have no clue how fired this place was

471
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Speaker 1: at Friday night at seven o'clock, And it was true

472
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Speaker 1: like when you would go into Blockbuster or whatever your

473
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Speaker 1: local video store was called. The Blockbuster for me was

474
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Speaker 1: downtown Davis, so we usually went to like Video City,

475
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Speaker 1: but it was the same exact concept. In any time,

476
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Speaker 1: the new big movie would show up and there would

477
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Speaker 1: be I don't know, maybe fifty boxes of that movie,

478
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Speaker 1: and you were just praying that they all weren't rented out.

479
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Speaker 1: And the amount of people in your community, you would

480
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Speaker 1: see like everyone was watching these movies. And it doesn't

481
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Speaker 1: quite feel like that anymore. Definitely in sports, you know,

482
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Speaker 1: and football has that still, and football feels like it's

483
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Speaker 1: gaining steam. And I've said forever football is not gonna

484
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Speaker 1: be on top my entire life. I've seen the EBB

485
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Speaker 1: and flow of sports. Now. I don't see these other

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Speaker 1: sports ever surpassing them because I don't see it humanly possible. Baseball,

487
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Speaker 1: even though they've increased the pace of play, I don't

488
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Speaker 1: think can ever resonate with the youth who is gonna

489
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: be add maxed out, you know, with their ability to

490
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: get bored fast. And I think basketball just has a huge,

491
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Speaker 1: huge uphill battle, which if reports are correct that they're

492
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Speaker 1: going to keep Adam Silver, I don't see anything changing

493
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Speaker 1: anytime soon in terms of the interest in this country.

494
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Speaker 1: But with football, I'm blown away by how many people care.

495
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Speaker 1: I really am and football has always been big, but

496
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Speaker 1: the I truly believe the communal aspect is something it

497
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Speaker 1: really has going for right now that these other sports

498
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Speaker 1: just feel like they do. Not everyone wants to be

499
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Speaker 1: a part of these big games. And like Colin said yesterday,

500
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Speaker 1: and he's right, like Sunday's a huge benefit, Like most

501
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: people aren't doing much on Sunday, and it's just an

502
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Speaker 1: easy sport to consume. You don't have to watch it

503
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Speaker 1: every night. I have a lot of respect for people

504
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: that like legitimately covered the NBA definitely Baseball, like I

505
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't even want to watch like Tuesday, Like I don't

506
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: want to fucking watch this game. And I'm sure those

507
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: guys sometimes don't want to watch those games either, but

508
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Speaker 1: they don't have a choice because you're basically playing three

509
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Speaker 1: or four nights a week. In baseball, sometimes you're playing

510
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Speaker 1: five or six. And in football, it's actually the easiest

511
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Speaker 1: sport to do this for a living because only one

512
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Speaker 1: game I really got all to stay locked in Thursday night,

513
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Speaker 1: Sunday during the day, and then Monday night. It's it's

514
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Speaker 1: not that complicated, and I think most of America agrees.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is that Greg Olsen, who I was

516
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Speaker 1: thinking about this, this is no shot at Tony Romo.

517
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Speaker 1: He's not necessarily my cup of tea in terms of

518
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Speaker 1: a television personality, a little too cheesy. I think he's fine,

519
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Speaker 1: He's fine. I think Greg Olsen's dramatically better. I really do.

520
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Speaker 1: And I would put Greg Olsen immediately in like the

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Speaker 1: collins Worth Aikman. I would say, John Madden's the greatest

522
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Speaker 1: of all time. But it's just he's really, really good

523
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Speaker 1: and reports so hard that Tom Brady is gonna accept

524
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Speaker 1: this job. I have no clue how Tom's gonna because

525
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Speaker 1: if you watch Tom in the right situation where the

526
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: cameras are on him but he's not actually on camera

527
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Speaker 1: and he's just like bullshitting in a joint practice with

528
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel, You're like, that's the Tom I want, but

529
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Speaker 1: then you watch clips from his podcast, You're like, that's

530
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Speaker 1: a little corporate Tom. And I think part of being

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Speaker 1: good as a broadcaster, the media thinks that, you know,

532
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Speaker 1: we educate the fans. Fans are watching this to relax.

533
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Speaker 1: I want to be entertained. It's why John Madden was

534
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Speaker 1: so popular. Obviously, quote unquote educates, but I want to

535
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Speaker 1: be like, smile on my face and enjoy the game.

536
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: This goes back to the Lakers and Warriors. They fired

537
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Speaker 1: Doc or excuse me, Van Gundy last year because he

538
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: was too crabby and often talked about the officials. You know,

539
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Speaker 1: one thing I liked about Van Gundy a little bit

540
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Speaker 1: of a wild card, would say some crazy I watched

541
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Speaker 1: Doris Brooke, nice lady, met her. I used to have

542
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: her on the radio show. She knows basketball. She's kind

543
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: of boring, Like ultimately, these games are a television show

544
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: aka entertainment, and there's a level like Olsen's like pretty serious,

545
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Speaker 1: but he's an easy listen. Him and Burkhart are really

546
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Speaker 1: good Tom, Like Tom is really famous and obviously has

547
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: a good personality if he just or at least did

548
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: back in the day when he was just hanging out

549
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: drinking beers with the guys or in the locker room.

550
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Speaker 1: But that's not always the Tom we get. It's what

551
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 1: makes Peyton such a special personality is he can kind

552
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: of turn on the charm. He's kind of got this

553
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: politician where it's just he kind of has a little

554
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: pizazz to him, and you know, Tom does. But I

555
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: do think it's difficult when the camera's on now because

556
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: he's just been hardwired to be this kind of robotic guy. Now,

557
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: can he loosen up? Can he be good at it?

558
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, I knew, couldn't Tom. I don't know, but

559
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Speaker 1: I understand Fox paying a lot of money for Greg

560
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: Olsen from being the number one guy he makes ten

561
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Speaker 1: million dollars. To be the number two guy at Fox,

562
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: he makes three million dollars. Do you know what really

563
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: sucks about that? If you're Greg Olsen, you're like, well,

564
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: I've just been doing it, and you see how good

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Speaker 1: I am. Now. Part of it is he's on a

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Speaker 1: product that's doing so many people watching. It's easy to

567
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Speaker 1: justify paying the guy that much. You put him on

568
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: the second game, there's just way less people watching, given

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Speaker 1: it's not you know, in the primetime window. But if

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Speaker 1: you're him, you're like, you're gonna do the same preparation,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna put the same effort in, You're gonna be

572
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Speaker 1: just as good, and you're gonna make seventy percent less.

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Speaker 1: That would hurt when with the Eagles on paper, their

574
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Speaker 1: coaching staff hires were really good, and I knew they

575
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Speaker 1: would be. Howie is really really good at helping his

576
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: coach out identify good coaches. It's something that that organization

577
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Speaker 1: takes a lot of pride in finding the best assistance

578
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Speaker 1: and future coordinators and coordinators who are available and when

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Speaker 1: they have needs hiring them. They Jeffrey Lewry will pay

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Speaker 1: a lot of money to pay coaches right. It's why

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Speaker 1: they get so mad when the assistant coaches that a

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Speaker 1: coach goes to bat for are not doing well, because

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Speaker 1: it's like, guys, I'll give you the money. One of

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Speaker 1: the reasons the Warriors back in the day fired Mark

585
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Speaker 1: Jackson because they would beg him to hire these top assistants.

586
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Speaker 1: They'd be like, oh, we'll cut the checks, and Mark

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00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: Jackson just wouldn't. He just would hire his buddies and

588
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: Steve Kurrz, the opposite right, He'll just hire the best guys.

589
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Speaker 1: And one thing with the Eagles is they've never hesitated,

590
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: and that's why once they start struggling, you know the

591
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Speaker 1: coordinators are in trouble, especially when they're kind of quote unquote,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say no names, but guys that

593
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Speaker 1: aren't have a long resume of success. So hiring Vic Fangio,

594
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Speaker 1: even though that situation is a little bizarre to me,

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Speaker 1: no brainer. Every team in the league would want a

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Speaker 1: Vic Fangio if they're willing to run the scheme. I

597
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Speaker 1: think Kellen Moore, who's a guy who was an offensive

598
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Speaker 1: coordinator for years, would Dak Prescott pre Dak Prescott injury,

599
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: Dak was much more mobile and makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 1: Like Kellen Moore, successful Dallas the Eagle saw it up

601
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: close and personal for years in the division, totally get it.

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Speaker 1: Even Clint Hurt, the defensive line coach for Fangio, who

603
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Speaker 1: had been the defensive coordinator for a couple of years

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Speaker 1: for Pete Carroll, like those three guys have a lot

605
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Speaker 1: of value in the NFLS obviously Fangio, but even Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 1: But putting a coaching staff together is a little bit

607
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: like putting a team together, like the way something looks

608
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: on paper, like this isn't baseball. You can't just well,

609
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Speaker 1: this guy plug him at third base, plug this guy

610
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Speaker 1: in left field, this guy can hit. This guy's a

611
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: arriety and it doesn't really matter. But you either can

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00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: play the position hit or you can't. In football, the

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Speaker 1: cohesion as on the field and on the coaching staff

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00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: really really matters. What do we talk about. I guess

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you listen, but me and Colin

616
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Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. One thing they him and Andy Spags

617
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: have been working together for twenty five years. Matt Naggie

618
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: and Andy have been together for a long long time.

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Speaker 1: Dave told the Special Teams coach has been there the

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Speaker 1: entire time. So the cohesion, you know what the other

621
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: guy's thinking, they know what you're thinking, and everyone is

622
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: on the same page. It's just very, very difficult. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not criticizing these hires. These are the type like

624
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: you gotta do it. But just because you hire a

625
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Speaker 1: really good staff doesn't mean that it's just gonna work seamlessly. Right.

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Speaker 1: Part of the reason Chane, Steichen and Sirianni worked really,

627
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: really well, they have known each other for a while.

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Speaker 1: They work together with the Chargers. One thing I wonder

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Speaker 1: with this is like Kellen Moore's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a wild card here, Like ultimately, what's Sirianna gonna tell

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Speaker 1: Vic Fangio? So he was if you're gonna be the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for the Eagles, you're gonna get to run

633
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Speaker 1: the show. But when it comes to offense, listen, Sirianna

634
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: can say he's gonna be the head coach because that's

635
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: what he is, but let the coordinator do his thing.

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Speaker 1: If their offense starts to look a lot better next year,

637
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Speaker 1: he's gonna get no credit. And there's a human element

638
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: of this, like your ego gonna take a hit, how

639
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Speaker 1: are you gonna handle it? Are they gonna work well together?

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Speaker 1: Just fascinating, it really is. And there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: ton of pressure on this team because how much they're

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Speaker 1: paying the quarterback, how just aggressive this franchise is. And

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Speaker 1: like I said, I totally understand and I applaud these hires,

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Speaker 1: but just because you hire sweet names on paper doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that it's just gonna be seamless and work. The

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Speaker 1: other thing is there can always be resentment when when

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Speaker 1: if something starts going well and the guy starts getting

648
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Speaker 1: a lot of credit, just something to keep an eye on.

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00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: It really is so Kellen Moore and Sirianni how they

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Speaker 1: come together and work together is gonna be something obviously

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, but I think an NFL story that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna monitor very very closely. Okay, let's bang out a

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Speaker 1: little thing we call the mail bag. You guys know

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Speaker 1: the drill easy to get in at John Middlecop at

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Speaker 1: John Middlecop is the Instagram DMS wide open fire on

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Speaker 1: in start with Jared. Look, so you're young, young buck

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Speaker 1: here in college. Happy Monday. Been hearing a lot of

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Speaker 1: talk about how Mahomes has the best quarterbacking start to

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Speaker 1: a career. I think he could one hundred percent become

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Speaker 1: the best ever over the next five to ten years.

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Speaker 1: How many more titles could this guy win? Even eventually

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Speaker 1: without Kelsey and Reed have a great rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: Jared's a friendly fellow. I would say, if he wins

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Speaker 1: this right, so he wins in two weeks, he's got three.

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Speaker 1: It does seem difficult to get three more right, like

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Speaker 1: what Brady did. Brady did it over twenty years. His

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Speaker 1: first one wash one. His last one was twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: So you're talking about a huge gap. So to think

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Speaker 1: that in ten years, so basically from two thousand, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes won his first one in February of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Ten year years from now would be their Like, that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of Super Bowls. I would say if he

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Speaker 1: wins four total, that's a remarkable accomplishment, like just stunning,

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Speaker 1: because it's gonna be hard to win against the Niners, right,

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Speaker 1: So let's say he loses and he's been to four

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Speaker 1: and he's won two, is he gonna get to three more?

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Speaker 1: That's what makes it difficult. It's just hard to get

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Speaker 1: to the game. It really is forty nine Er fan

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Speaker 1: ever since the drive. I'm not typically on social media,

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Speaker 1: but I've been following Collin since the mid two thousands.

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Speaker 1: Actually met him twice, and I've enjoyed your content for

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Speaker 1: a year now. Love the takes you give inside the

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Speaker 1: NFL operation. I literally installed Instagram just to get this

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Speaker 1: message out because I believe so much in it. I

685
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Speaker 1: was thinking this thought during the forty nine Ers game,

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Speaker 1: but I obviously hammered. I was obviously hammered. The more

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Speaker 1: I look at it with sober eyes, I think number

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Speaker 1: thirty two Brian Branch was trying to injure Brock on

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Speaker 1: the long third and four scramble. Watch it all the way.

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00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: He slowed down, timed to steps, and then tried to

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Speaker 1: step on Brock's knees, even raking his foot backwards, not

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Speaker 1: a normal body motion. Is there any way we can

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Speaker 1: get this to the league office. The attached clip is

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Speaker 1: from David Lombardi's Buddy of Mine. Okay, I'm watching this clip.

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Speaker 1: Now here goes running, there's purty. I don't know. Here's

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Speaker 1: what I would say anything, And this is why the

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Speaker 1: NFL and sports implementing slow motion on replays. That's not

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Speaker 1: the way these guys are moving so fast. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give the guy the benefit of doubt. Do I think

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Speaker 1: that he slowed down and tried to rake his knee

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Speaker 1: on the guy's knee. Maybe he wanted to step on

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Speaker 1: him so he feel a little pain. Like this is football,

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Speaker 1: not patty cake. Now you can say like that's crossing

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Speaker 1: the line. Some of the great teams, some of the

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Speaker 1: great players are lying crossers. I'm not defending it, but

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Speaker 1: I think you know, we love to eat the hot

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Speaker 1: dog and I had one the other day at Costco,

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Speaker 1: but we don't want to go to the hot dog

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Speaker 1: manufacturing plant and see them all made. And like, we

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Speaker 1: love football, but we always get up in arms with

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Speaker 1: that's such a dirty hit. Yeah, it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: dirty game. This guy's running full speed at each other

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Speaker 1: literally not trying to like send you to the hospital,

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Speaker 1: but I'm trying to knock you out of games as

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Speaker 1: a defensive player. Now, is that if he truly was

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Speaker 1: like trying to step on his knee twist it, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's fucked up. Do I believe you were doing that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I don't get too caught

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Speaker 1: up in that. Besides, like super super egregious. And again

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Speaker 1: I thought Hazy the dude from the Steelers who got

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Speaker 1: kicked out in the final three games of the season

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Speaker 1: or whatever when he destroyed Michael Pittman. I didn't blame

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Speaker 1: the defensive player for that. I blame the quarterback through

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Speaker 1: a hospital ball. But if you went on like social media,

725
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Speaker 1: it's like kick him out of the look or shit. Yeah. Yeah,

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00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: the pass from Gardner Minshew was and the history of

727
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: me watching football that gets guy's neck broken. But now

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Speaker 1: it's like all the defender's fault. So get that was

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Speaker 1: a terrible pass. But I appreciate the question. If you

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Speaker 1: had the choice between Lamar, Burrow or Allen for the

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Speaker 1: next five years or whatever you see as the foreseeable future,

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Speaker 1: who would you choose. I don't even hesitate. I would

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Speaker 1: take Josh Allen. I don't even have to think twice.

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Speaker 1: I would go Josh Allen. Here's the problem with Burrow

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Speaker 1: is like the availability now is a little in question,

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Speaker 1: I know, and Lamar has been dinged up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We could argue those two now. Burrow obviously he beat

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs couple of years ago. But Josh Allen, without hesitation,

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Speaker 1: to me, Josh Allen's the second best player in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback Mahomes is in his own little world. And then

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Speaker 1: I would have Josh Allen too. I'd argue with anyone

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Speaker 1: un till we're blue in the face. But again, here

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Speaker 1: would be my argument. Get Andy Reid and Steve Spagnola

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Speaker 1: on the phone, ask him who keeps him up at

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Speaker 1: night the most of all the players in the NFL

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Speaker 1: at quarterback, who do they fear the most well guarantee.

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Speaker 1: It's Josh Allen. I know that for a fact. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I was at a bachelor party in Colorado and I

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Speaker 1: proposed a hypothetical. If a team that is loaded and

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Speaker 1: ready to win now, such as the Niners, needed a

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Speaker 1: quarterback to win the Super Bowl next year, would they

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Speaker 1: rather have Herbert or Stroud? Everyone said Stroud except me.

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Speaker 1: The answer has to be Herbert. Right. As a side note,

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Speaker 1: I went to Oregon. Most of the other guys either

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00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: went to Ohio State or have Ohio ties. Either their

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Speaker 1: Ohio bias was clouding their thoughts or something else commonly

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Speaker 1: purchased in Colorado was would love to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: You know, these hypotheticals are great. It's like, well, if

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Speaker 1: you know the Lakers, if they could add Scurry and

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Speaker 1: like somehow get you know Embeid. This is impossible. Now,

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. These are conversations a huge reason

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00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: sports are so big. But it's like these two quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: the only thing they have access to is brock Purty.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine if you asked me who is graded

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Speaker 1: the highest in their system. One thing with the Niners,

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Speaker 1: like running their system is not as much about some

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Speaker 1: of the things Herbert possesses, like Herbert in a vacuum

768
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: is a more physically gifted guy than Stroud. But Stroud

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Speaker 1: just showed for a year that he can excel in

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Speaker 1: this offense. So to me, if you just gave Kyle

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Speaker 1: and if you factored in the money, like Herbert is

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Speaker 1: on an enormous contract, Stroud's on a rookie contract. So

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Speaker 1: would if we were just doing a draft from scratch,

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Speaker 1: we didn't have any team, we didn't have any other

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Speaker 1: players on the team, would I take Herbert or Stroud?

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people in the NFL would

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Speaker 1: still take Herbert. But I think for the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers because they just aw the kid run the offense

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Speaker 1: with Bobby Sloweck, who was like one of Kyle's guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you could convince me. Do you agree that

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Speaker 1: Spags doesn't get the credit he deserves from being one

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Speaker 1: of the all time great coordinators. I know that overlooking

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Speaker 1: a guy who has won three Super Bowls a defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator across two franchise, it's harder to do. But I

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Speaker 1: think the performance of Kansas City's defense on Sunday illuminated

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Speaker 1: his greatness. I told coward that if you factor in,

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Speaker 1: like the best coordinators in the league right now are

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Speaker 1: head coaches, right Shanahan, Andy McVeigh, Demiko, Like their value

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Speaker 1: is really really high because they coordinated side of the

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Speaker 1: ball and they're the head coach on good teams. But

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Speaker 1: if you want a guy who's not the head coach

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Speaker 1: and he calls the side of the ball and his

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Speaker 1: head coach is on the other side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: you could argue spag is the best deal in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: There might not be a close second because think about

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Speaker 1: like Ben Johnson and Mike McDonald, who are obviously fucking studs.

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Speaker 1: I mean that game plan Ben Johnson had together, I

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Speaker 1: thought Steve Wilkes might get relieved of his duties at

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Speaker 1: that time, and m Mike McDonald. I don't think the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: How many first downs did they have in the second half.

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Speaker 1: But those guys are big time. But they're gonna become

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Speaker 1: ahead coaches when guy's thirty nine, the other guy's thirty six,

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Speaker 1: thirty seven, whether it's this year or next year, Like,

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Speaker 1: those guys are gonna become a head coach. No one's

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00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: ever gonna hire Steve Spagnola. It's never gonna happen. No

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Speaker 1: one's doing it. Maybe it's his age, maybe it's the

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00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: last time he had a shot it was really bad.

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Speaker 1: You could give me eight variables and they probably all

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Speaker 1: are valid part of the equation. But no one is

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Speaker 1: ever hiring him. So his value as a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: is I don't know. It's immense to Andy think of

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Speaker 1: the success they've had with him, and no one's gonna

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Speaker 1: No one even interviews the gay so Dave Tobe too,

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Speaker 1: like Andy, is two coaches because they're older. If either

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Speaker 1: guy was forty three years old, I think they'd interview

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Speaker 1: five different places and Andy would lose them like he

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Speaker 1: used to do in Philadelphia. Used to lose these guys.

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Speaker 1: He literally lost bags once upon a time. I think

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Speaker 1: was a position coach. The Giants hired to be the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. They beat the Patriots, and then he becomes

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Speaker 1: a head coach. I've been following the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen. I have a question regarding the Niners

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Speaker 1: Raiders rivalry. Was this ever a rivalry? The answer is no.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me that especially Raiders are trying to

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Speaker 1: keep this rivalry alive. They haven't won anything in the

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Speaker 1: last decade. The last time they beat the forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 1: they still had Oakland in their name, and they aren't

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Speaker 1: in the same conference. The elephant in the room here

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Speaker 1: is there is there's a complex in the Bay Area

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Speaker 1: when you're from Oakland relative to San Francisco, And while

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers now play in essentially Palo Alto

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Speaker 1: Santa Clara, there's a jail because the Giants and the

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00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers owned that market. They make dramatically more money,

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Speaker 1: and when they're both good, one dramatically outrates the other. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the A's are moving to Vegas and the Raiders who

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Speaker 1: had to move to Vegas five or six years ago.

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Speaker 1: A big reason for that is because they weren't going

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Speaker 1: to be able to function. They were never going to

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Speaker 1: be an equal right, And it's not like obviously Mets

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Speaker 1: and Yankees have that, but the Mets are still massive, right.

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Speaker 1: I think the Clippers are a good example, but the

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Speaker 1: outweigh by fans is five hundred to one Laker to

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00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: Clipper fan or whatever. The Niners greatly outweigh the Raiders

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Speaker 1: in terms of fans in the Bay Area. I'd say

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Speaker 1: it's it's probably out of ten people. It's I mean,

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Speaker 1: Raider fans are gonna get mad at this, but it's

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Speaker 1: closer to nine to one than it is six to four.

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Speaker 1: And I just think there's a jealousy and it comes

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Speaker 1: you know, it's the socioeconomics of it. It's the prestige

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00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: of the names. There's just an element that's I mean,

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00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: think about this. Oakland has lost all three teams in

852
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: a five year span. Think about that. The Raiders went

853
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: to Vegas, the Oakland A's are going to Vegas too,

854
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: And Joe Laca bought the team basically because he knew

855
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: he was going to immediately move them across the Britige

856
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: to San Francisco. So there's like, you know, the redheaded

857
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: stepchild little brother complex of we're never going to be

858
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: good enough complex. And then I mean, in and out,

859
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: one of the most successful businesses on the West Coast

860
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: literally just packed up shop. There's like this chip on

861
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: the shoulder, we're not good enough. And there's economic aspects

862
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: to it as well, but it just gets down to

863
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: the Niners are infinitely more popular. So there's a rivalry

864
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: from like a jealousy standpoint from the Raiders, but most

865
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: forty nine Er fans don't care about the Raiders. They

866
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: really don't. If they're good, great, it's like cool for

867
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: you guys. If they're bad, they don't notice. There is

868
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 1: This has to hurt Mark Davis in a weird way,

869
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: who's financially having a lot of success moving the team,

870
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: but the cansee Chiefs are practicing at the leaders facility.

871
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: I mean, is it's not really a rivalry. I know

872
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: the Raiders beat him this year, but like it, it

873
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: hasn't been a rivalry since Andy's been there, and the

874
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, who they have so much jealousy and

875
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: envy tour, are playing them in that stadium. My guy

876
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: Josh Dubao, who is a sports guy for the AP News,

877
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: he put out on Twitter that if Andy and Mahomes

878
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: win in two weeks that they will have the most

879
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: wins of any coach quarterback in Allegiance Stadium that includes

880
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: Raiders coaches and quarterbacks. So this is going to be

881
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: tough for Raiders fans the Super Bowl, it's gonna it's

882
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: gonna hurt deep. So yeah, absolutely, no rivalry. I think

883
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: you can have a natural, like geographical rivalry of like

884
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: where people at school if one kid's a Raider fanly

885
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, you talk a little shit, but I think

886
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: that would naturally happen if I'm a you know, if

887
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: I'm a Cowboy fan and you're a Niner fan, it's

888
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: just nature, like a legit rivalry like the Cowboys and

889
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: Eagles and rivals, you know, I mean the the the

890
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: Steelers and Ravens rivals, Ohio State and Michigan arrivals, the

891
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and Raiders. Simply or not, if you

892
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: were to bet on six sneaky good teams this upcoming year,

893
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: thinking wildcard teams oh four or twenty four to twenty

894
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: five season, and six teams that missed the playoffs, who

895
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: would you choose and want? You're way ahead of me.

896
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: I haven't. I'm just trying to get to the draft,

897
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: so I can't. That's that's that's a good question, but

898
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: it's probably more for like Juni or July. This is

899
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: a probably a better one. I'm a Seahawks fan, but

900
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: seeing the Rams this season and Arizona's fightiness and your team,

901
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: of course, what do you think Seattle should do with

902
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: their team? Draft? Coaching players like you? I like Vrabel

903
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: and then McDonald and the OC Ben Johnson, I've been

904
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: thinking about starting a YouTube channel, but I think people

905
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: won't listen to mer care. My opinion, if I got

906
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: big enough, like where you are at right now, would

907
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: you be willing to buy a percentage of the channel brand?

908
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: This guy's a big picture thinker. Raphael, I like where

909
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: your mind's at, but you're you're way ahead of me.

910
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: My recommendation would just just start a start a start

911
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: a channel. If you get big enough, people are gonna

912
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: want to buy in. I would say. On the Seattle

913
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: situation is it does feel like they're not going to

914
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: hire dan Quinn. I don't know why. I feel like

915
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: that schefter kind of alluded to everyone thinks dan Quinn

916
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson are going to Washington Seattle. He's like,

917
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: I would bet against at minimum one of those not happening.

918
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: So to me, and I saw the Seattle Times Bob Candatta,

919
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: who I follow on social media, put out you know

920
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: there have been a lot of smoke about Mike McDonald.

921
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: Maybe they're still going after Ben Johnson. I wonder Seattle's

922
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: kind of lurking and they're not going to hire dan Quinn,

923
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: so I would expect them to be one of the

924
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: Ravens guys, or Ben Johnson, assuming Ben Johnson doesn't go

925
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: to Washington, which I thought was gonna happen, but now

926
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like it's likely. I don't know what's

927
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: everyone else hiring coaches? Like, come on, guys, let's let's

928
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: let's make it hire. Starting this off by saying Dan

929
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 1: Campbell deres there's a lot of credit for what he's

930
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: done with the Lions. Totally agree, But being aggressive and

931
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: going for it all the time? Who does that sound

932
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: like Brandon Staley. Everybody loves Staley in the beginning because

933
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: he was uber aggressive on fourth. As time went on,

934
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: it became more and more of a problem. As much

935
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: as I don't want comparison to be true, what do

936
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: you say? Well, I think one thing Dan Campbell is

937
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: going for him is there's a genuine nature to the guy.

938
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: If you watch his postgame press conference, it's you almost

939
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: like want to shed a tear almost. He really resonates

940
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: when he talks. There's to me, Brandon Staley always gave

941
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: off this Gavin Newsome fraud vibe. It's like, bro, nobody

942
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: trusts what when you talk? You just feel like such

943
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: a phony and there's a genuine nature of Dan Campbell

944
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: when we all know like authentic people, and that's his vibe.

945
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: So when he after the game said like, listen, you know,

946
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: we might never get back here, like he just feels

947
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: like a real human being. I do think that it's

948
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: an organization philosophy. Like I'm not saying he's against it,

949
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: but he's all bought in on it. I do think

950
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: there has to be some middle ground. Now, you never

951
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: want to go back all the other way, like Rivera

952
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: ended up doing. Rivera used to be really aggressive and

953
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: now he's not as aggressive. Obviously he's not even coaching anymore.

954
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, there's just a balance,

955
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: you know. I think it's just that simple everything in life,

956
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: Like you're allowed to have, you know, a couple of

957
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: McDonald's cheeseburgers. Would you have him every day twice a day?

958
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: Probably not? You know, in this notion, I can't get

959
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: over this is what we do all the time. Who

960
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: talks like that? No one in business talks like that.

961
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: No human being would talk like that. I'm more in

962
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: sandals right now, it's seventy five degrees out. If I

963
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: was in Minnesota and it was ten degrees, Probably wouldn't

964
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: want to have sandals on, probably want to put pants

965
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: and shoes on. Like situations dictate what you do and

966
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: when you do it. You can't just have an organizational philosophy.

967
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: This is what we do, no matter what one percent

968
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: of the time. I don't think any human being, any

969
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: successful company, any successful team has ever thought like that.

970
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning loved to throw, but if you don't have

971
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: enough guys in the box, he'll check into a run

972
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: and he'll run for seven yards, right. I mean, it's

973
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: just I think the best example is the best dynasty

974
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: of my life any sport was the Patriots because of

975
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: the time in which they did it over and the

976
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: amount of different iterations of the group, and the number

977
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: one thing Belichick and the Patriots hung their hat on

978
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: was just we'll do whatever it takes. You have the

979
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: number one passing defense and an awful rushing defense. Will

980
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: have thirty seven rush attempts this game. You're kind of balanced.

981
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: We'll have to see what's working, and then as the

982
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: game goes on, we'll commit to that. You struggle against

983
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: pressure over the right tackle. That's where we're going to

984
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: bring the heat from this game. I'll just do whatever

985
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 1: it takes. Right, I'm playing Peyton Manning and you're scoring.

986
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: We got to be aggressive on fourth down, right because

987
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: we can't stop them on defense. We're playing a team

988
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: that wore up by two scores in the second half.

989
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: Probably want to be a little more conservative, right, playoff them,

990
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: don't give up a big play, kick the field goal,

991
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: go up three scores. Everything in life is situation, even

992
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: if you have a philosophical belief. I lean aggressive. I

993
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: lean very aggressive in my life in everything I do.

994
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: But I'm not that way twenty four to seven, three

995
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: sixty five, Like there is a time and a place

996
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: to like, Okay, this is a situation, or this is

997
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: a meeting, or this is this is a week, or

998
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: financially maybe I'm in a pinch, like okay, I'll just

999
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: let's take a deep breath, let's take a step back,

1000
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: and the other ninety percent of time doubling down, being aggressive,

1001
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: going after it. I just this notion, they're like, this

1002
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: is what we do. I think he's so stupid. Anyways,

1003
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: this game, lamar Aw gained mahomes through the air and

1004
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: made several big time throws. No one is talking about

1005
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: the TV pass the huge completion Isa with the taunt. Afterwards,

1006
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: he also doubled up all the Ravens rushing totals combined.

1007
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: The interception was clearly bad, but at that point I

1008
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: felt like it was bound to happen. Todd Munkin has

1009
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: been spamming panic passes since the first snap. With only

1010
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 1: eight handofs to running backs and one design run for Lamar,

1011
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: you could call battle plays just using the ass Madden

1012
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: feature from the video game. I feel like a lot.

1013
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: I feel like at least ninety percent of the failure's

1014
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: fall square on him and hardball and should it should

1015
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: be held against Lamar? I don't even think they gave

1016
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: him a chance from the kickoff. Is that fair? I

1017
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: don't like. I don't view Lamar. I view Lamar that

1018
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: game as similar to some of like the Peyton Manning failures.

1019
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: It sucks and it's a kick in the dick, but

1020
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: it's not like gonna define his career. His coaching staff

1021
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: was bad, and I think clearly we talk so much

1022
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: and I said this the other night on the podcast,

1023
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: that we spend so much time in other sports, specifically basketball,

1024
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: about guys choking, and I totally understand it because you

1025
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: can sit there and watch a guy like this. This

1026
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: isn't some scheme like this guy is just kind of

1027
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: shit in the bed. In football, the coach does dictate

1028
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: a lot, and obviously an offensive coordinator's calling the plays.

1029
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: I can't fathom watching the game the previous week with

1030
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: Josh Allen constantly getting to the edges and not consistently

1031
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 1: doing that with Lamar and what happened kind of early

1032
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: in the game they ran that like quarterback power and

1033
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: Lamar guy that I had Lamar over seventy yards rushing.

1034
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: He actually had the angle to keep going another like

1035
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: ten fifteen yards and he kind of like tried a

1036
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: juke and just kind of fell. But like that play worked,

1037
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: Like why don't you rush? Listen? I think big picture

1038
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: to become some all time great Super Bowl champion. There's

1039
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: a balance of running and passing. But in a one

1040
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: game situation when you have an elite skill and that

1041
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: team on the other side has proven to kind of

1042
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: struggle against that skill running the quarterback, so why don't

1043
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: you run the quarterback? It's like he was dropping him back,

1044
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: like he was trying to prove, like, see, I've coached

1045
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: him up to be like John Elwood, were we trying

1046
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: to prove We're just trying to beat the Chiefs? So yeah,

1047
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm in agreement. Not running Lamar was one of the

1048
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: worst game plans I've ever seen. And this is someone

1049
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: who just watches football to someone that had a lot

1050
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: of money on the Ravens. Part of the reason I

1051
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: bet on the Ravens was like, I just think that,

1052
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: but the chief scored seventeen points. I think the element

1053
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: of Mahomes to Lamar though, was like Maholmes was never

1054
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: making that pick. That was not It doesn't happen for

1055
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: him in the playoffs, whether he's up or down in

1056
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: the game. So this notion that it was always gonna come,

1057
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: it can't come in a game that's gonna be decided

1058
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: by fifteen, seventeen, nineteen points. You cannot throw that interception,

1059
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, a red zone pick in a playoff

1060
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: game that's tight against a championship operation is beyond devastating.

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00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: So it's it's inexcusable. Even if it's a bad play call,

1062
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: the guy runs the wrong route, whatever the excuse, you

1063
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: cannot throw it into three people. I literally letten to

1064
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: watch every video My question to you is why is

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: age an issue for NFL draft? Hennix is twenty four

1066
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: years old and everybody is making a big deal about it,

1067
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: like he's Chris Rank was twenty eight years old when

1068
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: he was drafted. Brandon Whedon was also a player that

1069
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: got drafted and he was old. Hope to hear from

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01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: me soon. I think because you look at it like,

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: if I hit on this guy, can I have him

1072
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: for fifteen years? And if I get a guy that's

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01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: twenty in fifteen years, he's thirty five, like in the

1074
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: prime of his career, like Matt Stafford. Now, if I

1075
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: draft this guy in ten years, he's already that age.

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01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: So I think part of it's projecting big picture. I

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01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: also think that's just not lazy. I just think it's

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01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: kind of a natural talking point, like this guy's old, right,

1079
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be twenty five his rookie year, which

1080
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: isn't nothing. I think Lamar just termed twenty six. Juju

1081
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster has been in league like seven years. He's

1082
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: like twenty seven years old, So it does mean something,

1083
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: right athletically you're kind of in your prime. It's probably

1084
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: a bigger deal to other positions at quarterback, especially if

1085
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: you're not a huge runner. Is it as big a deal?

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01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: I I do think there's some validity to it. Also

1087
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: think it speaks to you have a huge advantage at

1088
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: twenty four years old from a maturity standpoint, playing against

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01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: people that are nineteen years old. So if you're playing,

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01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I could be wrong on this, But

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01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: Pennox is playing against I like Penix, but he's playing

1092
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: against Oregon. Let's say the average age on the Oregon defense,

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01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: This could be wrong. I just let's just use this

1094
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: for example, is twenty years old, right, and half of

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01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: them have been a starter for less than fifteen games. Well,

1096
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: this guy's got six years starting experience. It's like a

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01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: huge advantage for him. So it is it Apple's dapples now.

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01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes twenty four year olds. Draymond Green was old when

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01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: he was drafted. It's very big in the NBA, and

1100
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: sometimes guys you know that are older go on to

1101
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: have great careers. Shane Battier. You know, it's all dependent

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01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: on the individual. So I think it's less probably about

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01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: age and how you feel about the player. I'm from

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01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: Chicago and there is justin fields cult that believes we

1105
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: should stay with him. I saw the Bears tweeted out

1106
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: a video that said quarterback one Justin Fields. I guess

1107
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: there's two ways to look at it. One just supporting

1108
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: the guy that you know laid on the line for

1109
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: their team. Two playing mind games with the rest of

1110
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: the league, and three maybe the social media guys is bored.

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01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: I don't know it. I don't think it's necessary whether

1112
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: you unless you're keeping them, then totally understand it. But

1113
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: if you are still going to trade them, I think

1114
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: it's pretty overblown, like they're just showing the league they're

1115
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,959
Speaker 1: cool with keeping them. I think most of the league

1116
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: understands where you like, where you're gonna end up in

1117
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: the situation, So putting out some minute highlight package on

1118
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: X and Instagram. I don't think it's changing, like the

1119
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons from giving you a call, or the New

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01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: England Patriots or whoever is interested in Justin Fields was

1121
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: last night's game Cheese first Ravens proof of what you

1122
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: get with Caleb versus Lamar, speaking only on the two

1123
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: quarterback ceilings, Caleb draws Mahomes comparisons and Justin Fields compares

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01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: to Lamar. Yeah, I mean Fields is so far away

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01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: from being Lamar Jackson, it's fucking stupid. And comparing a

1126
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: guy in college that just went seven and five and

1127
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: was kind of all over the map to one of

1128
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: the greatest NFL quarterbacks we've ever seen, I think has

1129
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: kind of jumped the shark. And I'm not blaming you everyone.

1130
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: Comparison to Mahomes, that's insane. It's like anytime a guy

1131
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: shoots threes and it's kind of short and now they're like,

1132
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: could be the next steph Curry. Yeah, probably not. I

1133
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: would doubt it is this guy next Tiger Woods. No chance,

1134
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: but it's it's the easy thing to do because it's

1135
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: fun to say, and if you're right, you look like

1136
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,479
Speaker 1: a genius. The chances Field is never sniffing Lamar Lamar

1137
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: Jackson won the MVP in a second year. The chance

1138
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: this is Caleb Williams wins a playoff game in his

1139
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: first three years, it's probably slim to night. Mahomes is

1140
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: fourteen playoff victories. The other thing is Caleb's about to

1141
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: go to Eberflus. Mahomes went to Andy. So I I

1142
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: think it's more you just Field isn't good enough, so

1143
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: you just hopefully that Caleb can become a top ten quarterback.

1144
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: I think sometimes we get too aggressive, right, And I

1145
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: think this is works in life too sometimes, Like I'm

1146
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: all for goals and having big visions. I'm a big

1147
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: dreamer in general, but sometimes you got to be really

1148
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: realistic right before you think about fucking getting your fourth

1149
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: house and your private jet. Like, let's work on dreaming

1150
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: about your you know, your first second home, right right,

1151
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: let's just if you you know, it's like I want

1152
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: to be worth a billion dollars, Well, how about you

1153
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: get to like five million first and dream of that

1154
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: and then go on from there. And I think there's

1155
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: some natural of like justin Fields last year, people like

1156
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: could it be the MVP? It's like, a are we

1157
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: sure he's gonna start all season long? You know, Caleb Williams,

1158
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: Can he beat Patrick Mahomes? Can Caleb just throw twenty

1159
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: five NFL touchdowns? First? Can he beat some good teams

1160
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: before we annoyed him as the greatest thing since sliced bread.

1161
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm guilty of this too, Like I'm not acting like

1162
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: people are alone love the pod, but I do have

1163
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: pushback on the criticism. Lions were seventeen of twenty two

1164
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: on fourth and three or shorter of this season. Badgely

1165
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: is nine of twenty on forty eight yards in his career.

1166
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: Worset a monk amongst qualified guys in NFL history. Numbers

1167
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: even worse when you factor in the outdoors. For me,

1168
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: it comes down, dude, do you trust the top five

1169
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: offense to get two yards or a bottom five kicker

1170
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: to make a forty five plus yarder? If Justin Tucker

1171
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: is the Lions kicker, I totally get it. So Badgely

1172
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: is nine of twenty on forty eight yarders in his career,

1173
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: and you guys were seventy seven percent. Listen, those numbers

1174
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 1: are Listen, they make a lot of sense. I would

1175
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: just say this, I do think you got a factor

1176
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: in the variables here and he Do you trust him

1177
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 1: to make a kick in that spot? Do you feel

1178
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: good about him in warm ups? If you told me

1179
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: we had no faith in him, then I would totally

1180
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: get it. But they had run him out before. Now

1181
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: I know it was a much shorter kick, but they

1182
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: ran him out at the end of the half. I

1183
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: listened to Lombardi's pod today and he thought that Dan

1184
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: Campbell really regretted not going forward at the end of

1185
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: the first half when he ended up kicking the field

1186
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: goal instead of like trying to make it twenty eight

1187
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 1: to seven. Obviously, if they didn't get it, he would

1188
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: have just been twenty one to seven and a half

1189
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: and kicked the field goal to make it twenty four

1190
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: to seven. I just think anytime no points are guaranteed, right,

1191
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: nothing in the NFL is guaranteed. Anything had happened on

1192
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: a play on fourth and two, just like anything can

1193
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: happen on a kick. I do think, and I'm not

1194
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: a huge believer in like the optics of things make

1195
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: it harder to criticize, But if you kick the field goal,

1196
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone thinks twice. I also don't think

1197
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: anyone would view Dan Campbell as some pussbag who always

1198
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: goes for it and then you know sphincter got tight

1199
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: in a big game because he kicked the field or

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01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: he attempted a field goal. In that situation, I think

1201
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: it's completely understandable given the score. To me, it's the score.

1202
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: So either you think if you don't think that he

1203
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: can make the field goal from any distance, I mean,

1204
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: what's the point of even having him on the active roster,

1205
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: might as well just go forward on every play, and

1206
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell has shown that he kind of would, So

1207
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I there is no guarantee that

1208
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: he would have hit the field goal, just like there

1209
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: was no guarantee that you get the fourth and two

1210
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,479
Speaker 1: and you didn't. He dropped it and that play changed

1211
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: the game. It just did. Does it change the game

1212
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: if they attempt a field goal and he joints it

1213
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: up the left, upright? Honestly, it doesn't feel like it

1214
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: would have the same momentum. I feel like this to

1215
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: my core, that the momentum that the forty nine ers

1216
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: got and the belief that they got on the sideline,

1217
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: and they even all these guys said it. George Kittle

1218
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: said it last night. George Kittle said last night that

1219
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: McAfee told him he didn't even know this, how would

1220
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: he did a couple of weeks ago. Do you understand

1221
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: that the analytical community does not believe in momentum? They

1222
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: don't believe it exists, which like, these aren't just robots

1223
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: slash widgets playing the game. These are human beings. So

1224
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 1: I will agree with this, I don't agree with the decision.

1225
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: There is no guarantee any of it was gonna work

1226
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: or not work. You have no clue. It's part of football,

1227
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: part of sports, part of life. Fuck. I could buy

1228
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: an NFL team tomorrow and something dramatically happen with television rights,

1229
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: and the next television deals a disaster. There's nothing is

1230
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: guaranteed in life beside death in taxes. But I think

1231
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: given the score, having the mindset of there's a difference

1232
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: of like conservative trying to preserve something and setting yourself

1233
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: up to win the game. Like I don't want to

1234
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: say the game's over seventeen points, but it would have

1235
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: felt pretty over. Peter here, new to the pod since

1236
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: twenty three, can't get enough. Keep up the good work.

1237
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: Do you know the process of how the NFL assigns

1238
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: referees to playoff games? Concerning the Chiefs, The head ref

1239
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: for this matchup, Sean Smith, historically leans in favor of awaitings.

1240
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: Having these stats in hand, I would think the NFL

1241
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 1: would assign refs in playoff games that historically call games

1242
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: penalties closer to fifty to fifty for both teams. I'm

1243
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: assuming it's ten year in experience, but should referees records

1244
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: be taken into account. You know what's funny. I mean

1245
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: this with all sincerity. I don't spend that much time.

1246
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: These are good I get a lot of good referee

1247
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: questions about full time referee stuff like this. I just

1248
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: don't think about referees that often. I really don't. Maybe

1249
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: it's my lack of respect for them. Maybe it's my

1250
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: just indifference toward them. Obviously, they have had moments where

1251
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: they have clearly impacted wins and losses. Luckily, I would

1252
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: I think we all can agree that was not the

1253
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: case in the games yesterday. Not saying they were perfect,

1254
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: but the Niners and the Chiefs did not win because

1255
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: of the referees. But I just don't spend that much

1256
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: time like breaking down their numbers. I know it was

1257
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: a story last week about the dude in the Chiefs game,

1258
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: but I would guess they'd take it into account. But

1259
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: maybe if you got Belichick on the phone, he'd tell

1260
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: you these fucking idiots in Park City in the league

1261
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: office don't know their you know how to walk into

1262
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: gum at the same time, so maybe they're just kind

1263
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: of throwing stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

1264
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: So I would say, yeah, in theory, you would fact

1265
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: through everything in But I think there is a fifty

1266
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: to fifty chance that no, just kind of kind of

1267
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 1: random whoever is in the good graces at the time,

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Speaker 1: whoever they like. And I think that's a you know,

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Speaker 1: pretty consistent theme with most businesses. Guys that the decision

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Speaker 1: maker likes are the reason that you get jobs and

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Speaker 1: lose jobs. Hell, I lost my radio job because the

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Speaker 1: Raiders wanted me out and they were the main partner

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Speaker 1: with the radio station. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: in radio that in sports radio that have their stations,

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Speaker 1: have relationships with teams. With the moment you piss them off,

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Speaker 1: they come for you. It's kind of the way it works.

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Speaker 1: So if you told me that this guy was in

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Speaker 1: really close with Troy Vincent or one of Rogers, you know,

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Speaker 1: right hand man, maybe Roger, I believe you. How do

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the NFL get higher they

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Speaker 1: getting tight with the owner. Maybe it's just that simple.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we overthink it and try to make all these

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Speaker 1: excuses and why they did it. Maybe it's just they

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Speaker 1: hire who they like. Happens a lot with coaching staffs.

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Speaker 1: You just hire their buddies appreciate everyone listen to see

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Speaker 1: you later. The volume