WEBVTT - What's Wright - Best Of - Nick goes SCORCHED EARTH on SGA fouls, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese, Celtics blow it up? 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:02.640 Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.320 with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:10.760 week on the show. Enjoy. So you would like to 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:16.640 have this story be a team that has been intelligently built, 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.120 that has a superstar scoring champ about to be League MVP, 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:27.360 a you know, kind of up and coming second and 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.960 third options in JDub and Chet and this team just 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:40.280 absolutely annihilating Minnesota in the Thunder's first conference finals game 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:45.360 since KD was there. You'd love for that to be 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:50.080 the story, but it's not the story. The story is 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:56.760 and there's no way around it. And I think you 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:02.880 guys know from as I r up myself my hesitation 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:08.520 across sports to blame officials, and I'm not blaming the 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:13.720 officials for this one, but the officiating is the story. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:22.560 Because the dichotomy between how the thunder Guard, which is 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:31.200 awesome playoff physical defense, and the way Shay is allowed 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:36.679 to be guarded and the way Shae courts contact or 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:42.080 initiates contact and then reacts as if there were a 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.840 sniper in the crowd and just flails to the ground 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:53.600 and time after time after time gets rewarded for it 0:01:53.640 --> 0:02:02.880 is utterly maddening, and we have seen listen, James Harden 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.680 was different stylistically than Shay, but did a lot of 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:14.840 this same stuff. Obviously, maybe this feels more jarring because 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:21.480 Harden's teams were not the best defensive team we've seen 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:26.720 in a quarter century or at least twenty years. That 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.080 was on the other end of the court, roughing everyone up. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:36.040 But it is impossible to watch, and I like it 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:41.880 by the way, the way Caruso and Dort and Wiggins 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:48.919 and Wallace and j Dubb are allowed to guard and 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:53.440 then see on the other end of the court, how 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:59.040 Shay gilges Alexander is treated by the refs as if 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:04.320 he's playing by a different set of rules. Miles Brown, 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:09.000 who is someone I quote a lot on this show 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.080 because I think he's a smart guy, and I also 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:15.880 think he has a very funny twitter. He's at Mt Brown. 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:20.400 He tweeted the way OKC gets to play football on 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.720 one end of the court and behind museum glass on 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:28.640 the other is infuriating, and that is exactly how I feel. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:33.240 And I do think there is a knock on effect 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:38.680 from when Shae gets When Shade draws four fouls in 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:43.200 the first five minutes, of the game. Not only does 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:48.040 Jaden McDaniels and Rudy Gobert and others get in foul trouble, 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.720 but and go Beert. Listen, go Bert got two fouls early. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.480 One was offensive, so maybe he's the wrong example. He 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.920 actually didn't fall again after that, but he was kind 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.520 of seemingly knocked out of the game impact wise after 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.480 those opening two fouls. But the knock on effect is this, 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:10.200 when the refs make it clear immediately we are going 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:14.720 to reward Shay's flopping because that's what it is. It 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:22.600 is shameless flopping. Then later in the game and you 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.320 saw it in the second half, guys feel like, well, 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:30.159 I have to give him space or else he's going 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.239 to draw the foul even if the foul didn't exist, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:38.880 And all of a sudden, shaken totally comfortably step into 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.679 that seventeen footer that he's the best in the league 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:55.039 at And we have the the bad, acting, dopey, agenda 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:58.200 laden folks who have been trying to tell you for 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.279 the last five years the league is dying. Because the 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.919 league had the audacity to be able to try to 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.160 have some type of social conscience. Those folks who've been 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.600 in hiding this postseason because the ratings have been off 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:16.960 the charts because the games have been great. Those folks 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.440 obviously have not acknowledged that the first two rounds of 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.680 these playoffs, the ratings were some of the best we've 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.920 seen in more than ten years in this league through 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.479 the first two rounds. Now, part of that is the 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.279 games have just been awesome, But it have that type 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:39.440 of rating when Stepp really only played around, when Lebron 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.040 only played around, when Durant didn't make the playoffs at all, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.760 when Giannis only played one round is a testament to 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:51.680 the fact that the audience has enjoyed the way these 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:57.080 games have been played and officiated that this postseason we 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:01.000 are allowing a level of physics and a level of 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:06.680 contact that is so unlike what is allowed in the 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:11.000 regular season. The audience likes it, and the teams have adjusted. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.880 And it's not even accurate to say that that is 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:21.520 applied to every team except the Thunder, because it absolutely 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:28.360 has applied to the Thunder's defense. Alex Cruso's awesome and 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:33.719 I give him massive credit. Alex Crusoe was basically allowed 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.479 to take out a police baton on Nikola Jokich the 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.840 refs are like, whatever, man, you're six inches taller than him, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:45.320 deal with it. Fine. I am not complaining about that. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:52.080 I thought that was great. But when you compare that 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.159 to the way the refs are saying, you have to 0:06:55.200 --> 0:07:02.640 guard Shay and these are laughable plays. And credit to 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:08.520 Doris and to Richard Jefferson for acknowledging it during the broadcast, 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:15.080 but these are Shay. It's not even like the old 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.400 hard and hook the guy's arm and then go up. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:23.760 It is just take a take a step and act 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.920 like you got hit and collapse to the floor while 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.800 tossing up a shot. Some of the most egregious ones 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:37.320 yesterday he actually made the shot while falling. There was 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:43.760 one truly egregious one that the Timberwolves challenged in won. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.800 But you don't have endless challenges and you don't want 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:56.720 to use them early, and it's just unbecoming. And I 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:03.800 was one of the I had a level, not huge, 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:10.280 but a level of thunder skepticism. Was I wondered, was 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:15.080 Shay going to get the whistle in the playoffs that 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.880 he got in the regular season, And up to this 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:23.640 point the answer is absolutely yes, if not a better one, 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:27.320 because he's averaging this well, probably about the same whistle 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:33.160 his free throws in each game of these playoffs. Seven 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.760 in the first game of the playoffs, he only played 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.880 twenty three minutes because they won by fifty four. In 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.520 Game two of the playoffs, when they won by twenty 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:50.600 nine in game three, thirteen in the deciding game against Memphis, 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:56.240 and then nine in Game one against Denver, eleven in 0:08:56.320 --> 0:09:01.920 Game two against Denver, just five in the overtime loss 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:06.920 to Denver, than twelve, then six, then eleven, then nine, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:16.760 and last night fourteen. And this is going to sound 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:25.080 unsportsman of me, but it is sports, and this is 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:29.760 part of it. If I am Minnesota and this is 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:35.000 how they are going to I'll give it game two 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:39.679 and see what type of whistle he's getting. But if 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:45.880 it's clear any type of contact he is going even 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:51.040 if he generates it, even if it's borderline fraudulent, he's 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:57.360 just going to get that whistle, then you guys need 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.439 to decide as a team if we're going to get 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:05.720 our money's worth on these fouls, because right now he 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.640 is getting the best of all worlds. He's living at 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:14.760 the free throw line, and he's leaving the game physically 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.520 feeling better than he came into the game because there's 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:22.920 no hard contact. Last night, there wasn't a single foul 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.600 that was like, oh, that's a hard playoff foul. And 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.920 I'm not talking about dirty plays. I'm not talking about 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.719 undercutting him anything like that. The audience knows what I'm 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:36.440 talking about here, and I hate that that's the story, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.080 but that's the story of Game one, and it is 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:44.760 why people got And sometimes I say things on the 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.160 TV show are on here and I say ahead of 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.800 time that I know I'm gonna get killed for this. 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:56.600 Don't care. It's just how I feel. I owe the 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.320 audience honesty. So I'm going to give him honesty. And 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:03.080 when I set on the show yesterday, I think the 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.960 thunder of the best team, I think they're going to win. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.880 I hope the Timberwolves win. Part of it was because 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:16.760 I do not like this style of play being rewarded. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:25.720 I just don't the foubating, flopping nonsense. And I'm glad 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:31.200 I got that takeout prior to Game one because I 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.600 feel like a lot of America watching that game joined me. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:41.040 And here's the other part of it. He doesn't have 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:50.600 to do this, so take later stage Jimmy Butler, who 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.680 is not a volume or a good three point shooter, 0:11:55.800 --> 0:12:02.959 who was not a crazy explosive athlete, and in order 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:07.439 for him to be peak effective, he had to be 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:12.640 drawing fouls. But he drew fouls kind of the old 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.880 fashioned way. He would pump, fake, get you in the air, 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:21.400 and go up, and that can be annoying, but that's 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:26.719 not grifting. That is it's a frustrating guy to go 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.880 against because you're like, just stay on the ground. He's 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.240 not going up with his first shot, and guys would 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:39.440 have a hard time with it. Shay is just kind 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:46.280 of wildly throwing himself into the lane, falling sideways, looking 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:55.160 for minimal contact, selling it like Daniel day Lewis, and 0:12:55.280 --> 0:13:00.000 being rewarded by it in a playoffs when for other guys, 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:05.600 guys it has been if you're not bleeding from the nose, 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:15.000 it probably wasn't a foul and it's just wildly frustrating. Now, 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.680 was that again, was that the reason the thunder one 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.880 by twenty six They outscored him seventy to forty in 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:26.200 the second half, So was that that was the story 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.840 of the game. But was that the reason the thunder one. 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If you didn't catch up, 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.520 let me, let me, people might be like, the hell 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.880 are we talking about? So here's the deal. Caitlin Clark's 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:42.400 Indiana Fever played Angel Reese's Chicago Sky. Caitlyn had a 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.320 triple double, Angel had a bunch of rebounds and a 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:50.520 bunch of mislayups, and the Fever one by thirty. During 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.400 the game, Angel committed a hard foul. I'm sorry, Caitlyn 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.800 committed a hard foul on Angel that was called a flagrant. 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.520 To me that was borderline, but whatever her it was 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:05.520 a smart hard foul. And then Angel got pissed. Some 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.879 professional or semi professional lip readers you know, think she's 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.520 you know, said she was effing crazy or something. There 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.840 were due, there were you know, dueling technicals. Right. Do 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:17.640 we think we have this all correct? 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:18.320 Yeah? 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:23.280 Just some random person on Twitter who we have no 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.040 idea if they were even at the game, was like 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:30.159 the crowd making monkey noises at Angel Reese is you know, 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.640 way out of line. Obviously that'd be way out of line. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:38.720 The thing is, the game was on tv I there 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.040 seems to be no evidence of this whatsoever that this happened. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.880 There is a clip when Angel misses a free throw 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.639 of what sounds like a dolphin noise. Now, I because 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.760 it's twenty twenty five and everything sucks, have learned. There 0:17:54.840 --> 0:18:00.159 is some streamer who laughs sounds like a dolphin, and 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:06.360 now idiot fen zers like laugh like him, do what demons? 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.840 Can you kill this? His name's Fly. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.800 I think they're talking about flight like a popular that's right, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:13.680 t K two k YouTuber. 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:15.280 I could see a. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.720 Dolphin noise sounding pretty close to monkey noise though. 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:22.440 So I agree with that. I agree with that. I 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:27.840 agree with that entirely. That may but again, I need 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:33.160 more than one person's tweet before I'm going to and 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.080 let me say this as well, before we get to 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:40.679 what I actually want to talk about here. Some of 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.880 the alleged Caitlin Clark fans and I said this last year, 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.679 we had really you can just check our archives. We 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.280 had real smart I think conversations on this. Some of 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.840 the alleged Caitlin Clark fans are not Caitlin Clark fans. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:01.040 They are just racists, some of them. They they just 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.120 like that they think this white girl is humbling these 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:11.359 black girls that definitely, unequivocally clearly exists. The thing is, 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:16.560 it mostly exists online. It to my experience, does not 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.440 seem to exist that much in person at the games. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.679 And now again the WNBA needs to be proactive about 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:32.359 making sure that doesn't, you know, invade the actual arenas. 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:35.120 There's nothing you do about the online stuff as sadly 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.639 it's the world in which we live. Those people are 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.399 pieces of shit. Now, I think everybody knows it. But 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:44.280 then the race stuff then gets even more complicated because 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.520 then there are fans of Angel who I don't even 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.159 know if they're fans of Angel, but there feels like 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:56.760 there is a like a solidarity of like no, like 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:02.400 there are shitty people on a acting these black WNBA players. 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.800 So we then need to act like Caitlin Clark isn't 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.720 this super nova of the talent. And the whole thing 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:13.400 just sucks because idiots get involved, and the WNBA commissioner, 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.080 who I don't know that Kathy Ingelbert's a wartime consoliari, 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:22.040 releasing a statement today like we're investigating this, like I'm 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.240 not sure. I maybe would have investigated it. And then 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:30.160 if there was any evidence whatsoever that this happened, then 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:34.040 I release a statement like, to me, your statement validates 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:38.680 the allegation when I have seen no evidence that this happened. Okay, 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.520 now there's all that. Here's the thing I want to 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:46.800 talk about. People are gonna be mad, don't care, demons. 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:53.200 Angel Reason needs to be better. Yeah at basketball. I'm 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.480 not talking about as a person. I'm not talking about 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:57.919 as a podcaster. I'm not talking about it as at 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.120 the met Gala. She needs to be better player if 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:03.399 we want this rivalry to be able to have some 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:10.000 staying power. Like she had a very very busy offseason. Again, 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:15.600 we are we are one game in, but at this moment, 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:19.120 it does not seem like the offseason involved a lot 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:23.919 of Mike and drills of left handed layups. And she 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:31.080 is right now, Angel Reese. I'm I'm sorry. Right now, 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:40.600 she is a wildly famous rebounder. It's like a I mean, 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:44.159 somebody had the funniest tweet on this. I think it 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:51.159 was Miles Brown who tweeted it. The The Caitlin Clark 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.800 Angel Reese rivalry is like if Kobe had a rivalry 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:59.680 with Marcin Gortat, and I just can't get that out 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:05.679 of my head, Like, I mean, this is the there, Listen. 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.639 I don't think Caitlyn is the best player in the league, 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.520 to be clear, that's still Asia Wilson until proven otherwise. 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:14.840 I think she will one day be the best player 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:21.600 in the league. But ain't Angel Rees right now? Okay, 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:25.240 Kent Taggert evidently gets credit for that tweet, Thanks guys. 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:32.639 I mean that was really funny. Caitlyn's team is I 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:37.560 think gonna be awesome, and she's awesome. An Angel is 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:42.280 a nice player that has real value and is maybe 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.280 already the best rebounder in the league, certainly one of them. 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:50.640 But if that is going to be a real right 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:55.080 on court rivalry, then Angel Rees needs to get better 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:59.280 at some of the fundamentals. That's just a fact. And 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:02.840 this is where I'm gonna sound like the old man. 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:10.880 But you had a very very very busy public offseason, 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:17.120 and if you didn't all like, if you come back 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:21.120 this year the same exact player that you left last year, 0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:27.240 that's a miss by you. And so that's that, to me, 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.320 is the more the thing to watch is that is 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:33.400 Angel Reyes going to continue to be a thirty five 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:37.919 percent layup shooter, because that's gonna that that is going 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.359 to put a real ceiling on who she can be 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:44.960 as a player. And this is where I am just 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:50.520 going to trust my entire career bona fides that people 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:53.199 aren't going to be able to try to draw me 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:56.679 into the I mean, you know what, everyone's gonna get 0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.640 drawn into it. Damn. Look the people is I guess 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:03.040 a Q was Lebron of being anti black because he 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:07.280 gave props to Caitlin Clark. And so this is so 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:12.800 toxic on certain levels that anybody could be you know, 0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:17.280 people could make allegations about anyone's motivations. My real motivations 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:21.720 on this are, I do I love the idea of 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:25.480 this being because they clearly don't like each other. I 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.679 love the idea of this being a real rivalry, but 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.040 one both parties got to hold up there into the 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:36.440 bargain as far as making them both being awesome. 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:45.840 Blending Vice's signature dynamic storytelling with the high octane world 0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:49.320 of sports, Vice Sports brings an exciting and diverse range 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:52.320 of programming that goes beyond the game catch action pack, 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:56.639 live events, and exclusive sports documentaries and profiles only on 0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:57.240 Vice TV. 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:06.399 Let's go to the Eastern Conference and your Celtics getting 0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:11.320 what's the term dog walked in a game six? Go ahead? 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:11.920 Uh? 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:12.360 Not fair? 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.480 I mean, we didn't have our best player, but it 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:17.200 is what it is. Yeah, and I was obviously a 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:18.920 little confident that we're gonna win that game. 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:20.680 And that's so that how it went. 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.720 It's time to go home. Tatum was out. We got 0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:26.840 dogged in the game six. Like you said, do you 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:28.760 think that we should blow this team up for the 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:30.840 money or do you think that we showed enough to 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.320 keep the band together try to run it back next year? 0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:36.360 Listen, I always I certainly don't think they I don't 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:40.120 think they should blow it up. They could have won 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:44.320 the championship if things break a little differently like I. 0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:48.160 So I can hold both of these thoughts in my head. 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:54.680 I do think if you had a healthy Jason Tatum 0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.960 and the Knick series was a best of twenty one 0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:02.600 first to eleven, you beat them in that series every 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:07.800 time it's played like you don't, no, no, no. My point 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:12.040 is is, I do think Boston, over a large enough 0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:18.359 sample would have beaten the Knicks. I thought where I 0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:24.560 thought people blew the analysis of it was because games 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:30.879 one and two were, you know, one point in overtime games, 0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:36.080 despite the Celtics shooting twenty five from three. What I 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:40.400 where I thought people screwed up their analysis was is 0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:45.240 that it they acted as if it mattered that ah 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.360 more often than not, the Celtics would at least split 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:51.280 those two, if not win them both. It didn't matter. 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:55.400 It's a race to four and it's two nothing, and 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:59.920 so to me, I thought the series ended then when 0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:03.320 the Knicks were up two zho in Boston, and I 0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:08.080 think the series, even if Jason Tatum is healthy, and 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:12.400 I think you might agree, the Knicks still win because 0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:17.320 the Knick. If you agree with this opinion, the Knicks 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.960 were winning Game four, even if Tatum doesn't suffer that 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:26.280 horrific injury. Then I just think it was unrealistic to 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.280 say the Celtics were gonna win three straight. And I 0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:34.359 think you saw that in what happened in Game six, 0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:38.399 not the blowout. Here's the part I think people are missing, 0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.879 and it gets lost because it was a blowout. The 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:50.520 Celtics were relying too much on old guys who showed 0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:56.080 you all postseason that they were not able to be 0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:00.320 good in consecutive games unless they had multiple days off. 0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.679 And that's Horford and that's Drew Holiday, and that you 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:08.080 weren't gonna get those days off, and so they you 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.760 had a bunch of time between Game four and five. 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.920 Those guys were awesome in Game five, and then Drew 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.119 was one for eight in Game six and Horford was 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:22.959 four for seven, which is fine, like they so, so 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.640 I think the Knicks were better in this series, and 0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:30.000 that's what mattered. Now, would I blow it up? 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:30.719 No? 0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:37.160 Do I recognize the Celtics' financial realities are such that 0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.960 they are going to have to make some significant changes. 0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.520 And the answer to that question is yes. To me, 0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:50.480 it's pretty obvious. Here are the changes I would make 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:53.800 if I were Boston, because they are in such a 0:28:53.960 --> 0:29:00.880 devastating salary position, I would And I now opening the 0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:06.600 Celtics cap table. Al Horford is a free agent. You 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.880 just have to I think he retires, Yeah, you just 0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:14.320 have to let him walk. So that's gone. You then 0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:22.960 have these big salaries Jalen Brown fifty three, Tatum fifty four, 0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:28.200 Drew thirty two, Chris STAPs thirty, Derek White twenty eight, 0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:34.640 and then a sneaky one, which is Sam Houser ten million. Okay, 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:40.800 I would if I were them, you let Horford walk, 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:48.120 and you trade Drew Holliday, and you keep together Tatum 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:54.360 Brown White, and you hope that Chris STAPs next year 0:29:55.720 --> 0:30:00.120 is healthy. And now here's the other piece of the 0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:03.280 Chris STAPs thing, because I wouldn't trade him before the year. 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:10.000 If there is real hope that Tatum could be back 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:15.480 for next year's playoffs, I think that is unrealistic. However, 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:20.240 it does seem like that because they did the surgery 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:25.360 like within hours of the injury, that that could really, 0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:31.160