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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right

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Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this

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Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy. So you would like to

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Speaker 1: have this story be a team that has been intelligently built,

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Speaker 1: that has a superstar scoring champ about to be League MVP,

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Speaker 1: a you know, kind of up and coming second and

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Speaker 1: absolutely annihilating Minnesota in the Thunder's first conference finals game

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Speaker 1: since KD was there. You'd love for that to be

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Speaker 1: the story, but it's not the story. The story is

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Speaker 1: and there's no way around it. And I think you

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Speaker 1: guys know from as I r up myself my hesitation

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Speaker 1: across sports to blame officials, and I'm not blaming the

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Speaker 1: officials for this one, but the officiating is the story.

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Speaker 1: Because the dichotomy between how the thunder Guard, which is

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Speaker 1: awesome playoff physical defense, and the way Shay is allowed

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Speaker 1: to be guarded and the way Shae courts contact or

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Speaker 1: initiates contact and then reacts as if there were a

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Speaker 1: sniper in the crowd and just flails to the ground

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Speaker 1: and time after time after time gets rewarded for it

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Speaker 1: is utterly maddening, and we have seen listen, James Harden

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Speaker 1: was different stylistically than Shay, but did a lot of

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Speaker 1: this same stuff. Obviously, maybe this feels more jarring because

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Speaker 1: Harden's teams were not the best defensive team we've seen

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Speaker 1: in a quarter century or at least twenty years. That

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Speaker 1: was on the other end of the court, roughing everyone up.

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Speaker 1: But it is impossible to watch, and I like it

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Speaker 1: by the way, the way Caruso and Dort and Wiggins

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Speaker 1: then see on the other end of the court, how

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Speaker 1: Shay gilges Alexander is treated by the refs as if

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Speaker 1: he's playing by a different set of rules. Miles Brown,

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Speaker 1: who is someone I quote a lot on this show

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Speaker 1: because I think he's a smart guy, and I also

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Speaker 1: think he has a very funny twitter. He's at Mt Brown.

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Speaker 1: He tweeted the way OKC gets to play football on

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Speaker 1: one end of the court and behind museum glass on

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Speaker 1: the other is infuriating, and that is exactly how I feel.

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Speaker 1: And I do think there is a knock on effect

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Speaker 1: from when Shae gets When Shade draws four fouls in

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Speaker 1: the first five minutes, of the game. Not only does

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Speaker 1: Jaden McDaniels and Rudy Gobert and others get in foul trouble,

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Speaker 1: but and go Beert. Listen, go Bert got two fouls early.

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Speaker 1: One was offensive, so maybe he's the wrong example. He

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Speaker 1: actually didn't fall again after that, but he was kind

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Speaker 1: of seemingly knocked out of the game impact wise after

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Speaker 1: those opening two fouls. But the knock on effect is this,

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Speaker 1: when the refs make it clear immediately we are going

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Speaker 1: to reward Shay's flopping because that's what it is. It

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Speaker 1: is shameless flopping. Then later in the game and you

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Speaker 1: saw it in the second half, guys feel like, well,

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Speaker 1: I have to give him space or else he's going

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Speaker 1: to draw the foul even if the foul didn't exist,

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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, shaken totally comfortably step into

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Speaker 1: that seventeen footer that he's the best in the league

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Speaker 1: at And we have the the bad, acting, dopey, agenda

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Speaker 1: laden folks who have been trying to tell you for

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Speaker 1: the last five years the league is dying. Because the

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Speaker 1: league had the audacity to be able to try to

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Speaker 1: have some type of social conscience. Those folks who've been

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Speaker 1: in hiding this postseason because the ratings have been off

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Speaker 1: the charts because the games have been great. Those folks

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Speaker 1: obviously have not acknowledged that the first two rounds of

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Speaker 1: these playoffs, the ratings were some of the best we've

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Speaker 1: seen in more than ten years in this league through

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Speaker 1: the first two rounds. Now, part of that is the

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Speaker 1: games have just been awesome, But it have that type

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Speaker 1: of rating when Stepp really only played around, when Lebron

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Speaker 1: the fact that the audience has enjoyed the way these

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Speaker 1: are allowing a level of physics and a level of

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Speaker 1: contact that is so unlike what is allowed in the

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Speaker 1: regular season. The audience likes it, and the teams have adjusted.

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Speaker 1: And it's not even accurate to say that that is

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Speaker 1: I give him massive credit. Alex Crusoe was basically allowed

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Speaker 1: to take out a police baton on Nikola Jokich the

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Speaker 1: refs are like, whatever, man, you're six inches taller than him,

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Speaker 1: I thought that was great. But when you compare that

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Speaker 1: but these are Shay. It's not even like the old

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Speaker 1: one truly egregious one that the Timberwolves challenged in won.

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Speaker 1: But you don't have endless challenges and you don't want

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Speaker 1: to use them early, and it's just unbecoming. And I

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Speaker 1: Shay going to get the whistle in the playoffs that

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Speaker 1: point the answer is absolutely yes, if not a better one,

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Speaker 1: because he's averaging this well, probably about the same whistle

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Speaker 1: his free throws in each game of these playoffs. Seven

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Speaker 1: in the first game of the playoffs, he only played

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Speaker 1: twenty three minutes because they won by fifty four. In

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Speaker 1: and last night fourteen. And this is going to sound

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Speaker 1: unsportsman of me, but it is sports, and this is

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Speaker 1: part of it. If I am Minnesota and this is

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Speaker 1: how they are going to I'll give it game two

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Speaker 1: and see what type of whistle he's getting. But if

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Speaker 1: it's clear any type of contact he is going even

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Speaker 1: if he generates it, even if it's borderline fraudulent, he's

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Speaker 1: just going to get that whistle, then you guys need

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Speaker 1: feeling better than he came into the game because there's

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Speaker 1: no hard contact. Last night, there wasn't a single foul

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Speaker 1: that was like, oh, that's a hard playoff foul. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about dirty plays. I'm not talking about

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Speaker 1: but that's the story of Game one, and it is

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Speaker 1: why people got And sometimes I say things on the

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Speaker 1: Don't care. It's just how I feel. I owe the

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Speaker 1: thunder of the best team, I think they're going to win.

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Speaker 1: I hope the Timberwolves win. Part of it was because

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Speaker 1: I do not like this style of play being rewarded.

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Speaker 1: I just don't the foubating, flopping nonsense. And I'm glad

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Speaker 1: And here's the other part of it. He doesn't have

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Speaker 1: who was not a crazy explosive athlete, and in order

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Speaker 1: drawing fouls. But he drew fouls kind of the old

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Speaker 1: have a hard time with it. Shay is just kind

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Speaker 1: it probably wasn't a foul and it's just wildly frustrating. Now,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Eastern Conference and your Celtics getting

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Speaker 1: Derek White, there's proof of concept when I say competing,

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Speaker 1: Like I think they'll still be good.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're not championship level next year, right.

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Speaker 1: And so, and this was the point I made going

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Speaker 1: into game six. If you treated Chris Stapsid as if

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Speaker 1: he were out, which I was. If you had a

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Speaker 1: team going into a year and you said, our best

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Speaker 1: players Jalen Brown, our second best players Derek White, our

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Speaker 1: third fourth fifth guys are Drew Holiday, al Horford, Peyton Pritche,

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Speaker 1: you would put that team in the same tier you

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Speaker 1: put the regular Detroit Pistons, like, oh, that's a good team,

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Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, they should make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: like Jalen his cad in that situation, you know, go

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Speaker 1: on down like, but you wouldn't look at them as

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Speaker 1: a championship contender. And that's what the Celtics were by

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Speaker 1: the end of that series. Does that make sense, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I like it all. I love getting rid of Drew.

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Speaker 4: I love both those guys, Drew an al Horford. But

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Speaker 4: it is it's and honestly not Drew Drew. I honestly,

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Speaker 4: if you will, the testings out a little further, but

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Speaker 4: that makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: It just if you if you feel like, here's the

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Speaker 1: point I would make on Drew if you if you're

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Speaker 1: if the feeling is of your guys making thirty ish

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Speaker 1: or way more Chris STAPs, Derek White, Drew Holliday, Tatum Brown,

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Speaker 1: that Derek White is too important and younger and all

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Speaker 1: of that, Tatum Brown untouchable, And it's a decision between

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Speaker 1: Chris STAPs and Drew. The the easy answer is will

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Speaker 1: move Christaps. He's But if you want to try to

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Speaker 1: get real draft compensation back, because you are trying to,

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Speaker 1: you know, get you more young, cheap players, Drew has

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Speaker 1: way more trade value, right does that? Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: Like that? So I those, But I don't think you're

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Speaker 1: trading Jalen Brown. You're obviously not trading Jason Tatum, and

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Speaker 1: I would be shocked if you're trading Derek White,