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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Alli. He is Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. We

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Speaker 1: Free and available for you absolutely, Matt. As you mentioned previously,

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin spoke to the media yesterday and again today,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to continue playing back some of the

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Speaker 1: stuff that might had to say. So some of this

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Speaker 1: we've already talked about a little bit. But he was

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Speaker 1: asked yesterday why they targeted Patrick Peterson as uh in

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Speaker 1: free agency after they lost Camp Sutton, and here's what

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Speaker 1: he had to say about that. The intangible quality his

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Speaker 1: football character, his love and passion for the game. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that is just something to be

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Speaker 1: learned from. Um we had the benefits of a guy

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Speaker 1: like Joe Hayden with a similar resume and love and

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Speaker 1: passion for the game. Um So Pat pat p obviously

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Speaker 1: is a guy that brings something beyond m his resume

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Speaker 1: playmaking capabilities, which is which is an asset to football

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Speaker 1: teams when guys can be living examples of of what

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Speaker 1: I just think we all benefit from that, and he

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Speaker 1: is that. I think that's something that I've known about him,

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Speaker 1: that that guy is a football lover and appreciate or

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Speaker 1: and I think that's some of the things that made

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Speaker 1: him very attractive. Did you meet Patrick through BMACK before

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Speaker 1: he went to LSU He kind of yea years ago. Man,

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Speaker 1: he was a teenager. Yeah, their relationship goes way back.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can explain it to people. What's the b

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Speaker 1: MA thing all. Yeah, Brian McFadden is there is former

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Speaker 1: their cousins, they are close. They're not that far off

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Speaker 1: in age from each other. Obviously, Brian McFadden's his older cousin. Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think there was you know, probably met

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Speaker 1: here's my cousin. He's a highly rated cornerback, like I saw.

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Speaker 1: I was aware of him as a teenager. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I bet Patrick Peterson was a pretty good player in

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Speaker 1: high school. I'm high Yeah, and that would that would

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Speaker 1: pick Mike Tomlin's interests. Yeah, right, I'd watch a young kid, right, Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean you could tell the coach is a lover

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Speaker 1: And I think that's important not only for the locker room.

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Speaker 1: but he brings immediate respect. People are everyone knows who

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Speaker 1: he's he's a former Pro Bowl player. Yeah, well, Patrick

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Speaker 1: remember asking Joe Hayden. This was three or maybe three

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Speaker 1: not as big as Patrick Peterson was. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 1: here's what Mike Tomlin had to say. Mike, it sounds

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Speaker 1: You don't they're not there. No, they're in the building.

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Speaker 1: They're they're going through the you know, everything that everybody

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Speaker 1: You don't need to practice like somebody who's in their

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Speaker 1: You know, he didn't ask me to do too much.

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Speaker 1: not like, hey, you got Jamar Chase one on one

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Speaker 1: tarnish my legacy, you know. Yeah, and that that's you

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Speaker 1: know when when he said things like that, that's why

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Speaker 1: And I think you know, obviously he he is, because

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Speaker 1: skill set to do it. Um. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: on fifteen passes, yeah, I don't care how you're doing

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Speaker 1: it right, whether you're playing manual or whether you're playing zone.

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Speaker 1: And Peterson talked about it, He's like, look, I was

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Speaker 1: of the equation, and mentioned this a number of times.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the most quarterback dependent team, the leak

424
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: and the longer this draws out. They got a new

425
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. What's he doing here? Speak? When you know,

426
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 1: even if Lamar is back with the Ravens, when does

427
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 1: he sign that franchise tender? Um? You know, when is

428
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 1: he back practicing with the team? Right? Right? How do

429
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 1: they how does their new offensive coordinator even draw anything

430
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 1: up at this point? Right? What's already hurt them? I mean, yeah,

431
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 1: maybe they draft Addison or Quintin Johnston or a guy

432
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 1: like that. They still have their pick, the ability to

433
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Speaker 1: add receivers. Maybe they convince Odell Beckham whatever I'm thinking,

434
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Speaker 1: pieing the guy for them. But they have been unable

435
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Speaker 1: to do anything because they have to x amount of

436
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: dollars tied up in him. You get the thirty two

437
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: million dollars that you have to you have to account

438
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: for on your salary cap Yeah, right, I mean, maybe

439
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: they would have signed Myers or jew or so even

440
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: if he goes out and signs a contract with somebody else,

441
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: that's let's say forty five million dollars a year. You

442
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: gotta match it. You gonna match. So now you need

443
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: more cap space. You have to keep a lot of

444
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: your money in the bank. You know you can't. You're

445
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: not You're just on a liquid organization right now. And

446
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 1: they could use pass rush, they could use they've lost

447
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman or two. They need dress. They only

448
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Speaker 1: have five draft picks and they don't have the wealth

449
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: of picks as usual, right so it's a little tight.

450
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 1: It's a little tight. So if I if I ask

451
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Speaker 1: you right now, as we sit here again in March

452
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Speaker 1: twenty seventh, do the Steelers finish ahead of the Ravens

453
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Speaker 1: in the AFC North. I was going to ask you,

454
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Speaker 1: do you think the Ravens are fourth without Lamar? I

455
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Speaker 1: think they Yeah. The way it's I mean they're passed

456
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: to getting to one or two. I think are really

457
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: narrow right now. Yeah, And so you know, again when

458
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: you when you start looking at you know, futures and

459
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: things of that in nature, there's still so much that

460
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: has to play out with this. There's so much play out.

461
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: And at a good point too. He's like three hundred

462
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: and sixty two days ago or three hundred sixty seven

463
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: days ago, it was the Steeler signed Edmonds, you know,

464
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: like and I think Tyreek Hill was chief one year ago.

465
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Speaker 1: I mean, like there's big things that A. J. Brown

466
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: was definitely a Titan, you know, a lot of that stuff.

467
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Speaker 1: All the draft day trades had happened. Yeah, Davante Adams

468
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: was a packer. Some other things from this morning were

469
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Speaker 1: this this meetings. John Lynch said, they will listen to

470
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Speaker 1: they being the forty nine ers, they'll listen to anything.

471
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Speaker 1: But we like Trey Lance on our team. So I

472
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: heard something I was actually listening to it. Forty a

473
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Speaker 1: team that maybe Baltimore talks to if something happens with

474
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Speaker 1: Lamar and from what I understand, Party is far away. Yeah,

475
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: and that is the problem. Immediately went on signed Arnold,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, like, I don't think Party's in the mix.

477
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Speaker 1: I was told whenever the GM went from the Titans

478
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Speaker 1: new GM went from the Niners organization, that there was

479
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Speaker 1: interest in Tennessee going with Willison Lance, which would make

480
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: some sense. But then the Niners would say, well, we

481
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: got to start Darnold until Purdy's ready, which I think

482
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: maybe is why they did that. You know, they have

483
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: three potentially able bodied guys. The one thing I only,

484
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: the only thing I know for sure is Lance is

485
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: way further along in his recovery than Birdie is. Like

486
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Speaker 1: they think Lance will be ready, you invested so much

487
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Speaker 1: in him, I guess you're rolled that way. Yeah, it

488
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Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me at Darnold's the opening day starter though,

489
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: it would not one bit. Yeah, And I was told

490
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: Shanahan was infatuated with Darnold coming out of school, but

491
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: there's a lot of tape since then that's not so infatuating.

492
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: You know. It's like saying, you know, I've really used

493
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Speaker 1: to be a big Eddie Murphy fan. But his last

494
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: six Bob movies have been bombed, right, right, And yeah,

495
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: the last couple albums haven't been so good, right. Sean

496
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: Payton said, Jared Stidham can become an NFL starter. He

497
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: was an important signing for us. They did that right

498
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: away too. Yeah. I mean you run on and grab

499
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. The first day or two of free agency,

500
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: you had one targeted like Arnold. And every move that

501
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: Denver's made is basically said, Russ, we're preparing for life

502
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: without you or you being a good player. We're gonna

503
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: run the football like crazy. We grabbed a backup slash,

504
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, developmental that we think is an NFL starter. Yeah.

505
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: And I think the Raiders thought that they would get

506
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: stid him back easily. And I think people run the

507
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: league like him more than people think. Yeah. Also, there's

508
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: a report out there that DeAndre Hopkins has received permission

509
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: from the Cardinals to seek a trade. Okay, I think

510
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: he gets traded? Is he at this point? That's a thing.

511
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean, his game will fade away slow. I mean

512
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: he's never been He's like the old guy that you

513
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: play basketball against at the rec center, puts his elbows

514
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: in you the right way and rafty you know. Um,

515
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: he reminds me of Larry a little bit at the

516
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: end of his career. Yeah, he doesn't have to run great.

517
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: He knows every trick in the trade. There's a lot

518
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: of teams that could use them. But it's like a

519
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: seven team million dollar cap hit. And you're right, and

520
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: you have to factor this in. I mean, it was

521
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: just last year, right that he was suspended for pe DS.

522
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: Actually it's a non guaranteed compensation package of nineteen point

523
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: four to five a million. Wow for a guy who

524
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: turns thirty one on June sixth. Wow, that's my birthday

525
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: and we got a lot of common I turned fifty

526
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: on June six So I don't know. I mean, I look,

527
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: how about Carolina draft the kid? First? Overall, you have

528
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: so much future future cap space third round pick? May

529
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I think C. J. Stroud would say, thanks, yeah, yeah, Ravens,

530
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: that's a team that's that's a team that's been linked

531
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: to him a lot. But again, if you don't have

532
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: Lamar you on and you already do you want a

533
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: short term fix, and you don't have a lot of

534
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: draft picks to begin with, You've given him thirds or

535
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: whatever for him. Yeah, it's camp hit. Yeah, I mean,

536
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: I bet the Bears are out of it. I think

537
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: about teams that have money giants as Panthers, teams like that.

538
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, would you go all in

539
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: if you're Buffalo or the Chiefs or a team like that.

540
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think the Bills could afford him.

541
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how they get him under You can't.

542
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: You can't have two receivers making fifty million dollars. Yeah,

543
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: and look at some of the receiver trades this year.

544
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: Those guys didn't go for much. It's not like last year. No, No,

545
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: you're not getting as much in return from some of

546
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: these guys as people think. I mean, I think he's

547
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: a third round pick trade. Yeah, but well with that,

548
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: with that salary and high right, he's already got suspended

549
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, one more PD he gets banged

550
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: for the year, He's banged for the year, and then

551
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: he bought nothing. Yeah. That's that's the tough part of

552
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: that one, because you you know, you would, you would

553
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: have to be very sure that that's not going to

554
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: happen again. And I don't know that you can be

555
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: very sure of that, right. I mean, he could say

556
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: it was an accident or whatever. But you don't know,

557
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: just know. I mean, I don't know his situation. I'm

558
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: not calling him out, but when older players get banged

559
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: for pds, I immediately go. He thinks he needs that

560
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: to stay at the level he was and he knows

561
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: better than I do. I don't know, you know, but

562
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: it's funny. We had a Cardinals guy on our podcast

563
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: like two months ago. I brought up A Hopkins. He's like, oh,

564
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: we'll get it first for Hopkins and them, And even

565
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: then I was like maybe now it's like you're not

566
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: getting close to first. I mean you might get a third.

567
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: That's that's what seems too. Yeah, they're gonna be really

568
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: bad this year. They are going to be super bad,

569
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: super bad this year. And Kyler couls a the faux show. Yeah. Um,

570
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, lots of interesting stuff coming out of

571
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: these uh these meetings. Here is that we trickle through

572
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: what uh what came or what came out of all

573
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: the talk shows. Don't know Rogers News either. Huh Um.

574
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: How about this one from Bill Belichick. We'll play our

575
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: best player at quarterback. Okay, I mean who else, who

576
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: else do they got? Bailey's happy? I mean he performed

577
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: kind of. He's not for me. Oh, I don't love

578
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: either one of them, No, but I think I could

579
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: see why Belichick would say that just because hey, Mac,

580
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: you didn't have a great job. Don't come into camp

581
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: thinking I'm the man. Stop stop yelling at my sideline. Right,

582
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: and the exactly doing a lot of favors with who

583
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: were on that sideline they did, They did not know

584
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: for sure. That was something that you know, we talked

585
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: about at length last year, the hubris of going into

586
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: a season without an offensive coording together with a bunch

587
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: of coaches that haven't ever done that. We're gonna have

588
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: my my former defensive line coach is gonna gonna call

589
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: offensive place. But he was a head coach before, right,

590
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: and he's really smart or whatever. But I don't know

591
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: that Mac Jones has the cachet to be I'm the starter,

592
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: or deserves that after last No, maybe you're trying to

593
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: light a little bit of a fire under him, But

594
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: I just don't see Bailey's appy as the guy pushing

595
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: him and the fans love him. I mean, he can

596
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: do never well, they all think that they're getting the

597
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: next on braiding right right right. That happened once, throw

598
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: the ball very once, right, it doesn't happen again. They'd

599
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: be in trouble with Bailey's appy. Yeah, are they any good?

600
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: Would you want Lamar if you're them? That's a team

601
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: that I've heard. Yeah, you know, start Hopkins name there. Yeah,

602
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: suggested that maybe Belichick is you know, I've been up

603
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: in age. I've I've had the defensive coordinate against this

604
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: guy many times, and I hate it. Send Mac Jones

605
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 1: to Baltimore with a couple of picks and just do

606
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: it all differently. But I think there's still some animosity

607
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: there between the two organizations. I'm sure, Yeah, I'm sure.

608
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: I mean that would be like the Steelers making a

609
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: trade with the I hear you, I hear you. I mean,

610
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: Harbor and Belichick gonna could they could they wait until

611
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: after the draft and then sign him and make an

612
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: offer sheet to him or whatever, you know, thinking they'll

613
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: be both mid first round pick types or even do

614
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: it now. That's not differ pact to this year. It's

615
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: not that late or not that early. Yeah, yeah, I

616
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, if they're not thrilled with Mac

617
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: and Belichick's like, I got three more years. I'll take

618
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: my chance with him as opposed to my guys. You know,

619
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: I could see it, and you see what everybody else

620
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: division is doing. That's that's the toughest divisional league. Well, Rogers.

621
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: We said that last year about the AFC West to

622
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: everybody said it about the West, and it turned out

623
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: to not be true very much. So, I mean three

624
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: of the four teams disappointed. I mean I think the

625
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: Chargers were slightly disappointing. Two were very very disappointing. Super Bowl. Yeah,

626
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: but it looks awful competitive, It sure does. It's especially

627
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: if and when the Jets get Rogers without a doubt,

628
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: I mean, if and when that happens, Yea, at some

629
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: point I'm assuming it does. I mean if it doesn't,

630
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? He goes off on another

631
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: retreat and decide. He might say I'm done right, go

632
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: to the dark room for a while it was jeopardy

633
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. We

644
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Speaker 1: are back here to finish up. What's been a productive through. Yeah,

645
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 1: it's been fun. Lots ofts of stuff going on here.

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Speaker 1: A couple other things here of note. Matt here from

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00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: the owners meetings at the Arizona Built Moore. Robert Sali

648
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: said today that he is sure that Aaron Rodgers will

649
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: be a Jet. That is interesting. It's interesting. You don't

650
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: usually hear a head coach talk about somebody who's under

651
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: contract with another team like that. Yeah, you don't. And

652
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he could get himself in trouble

653
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: for that, you know, with the league. Who's to say.

654
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't know that I thought of my head, but

655
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: it sounds like that's kind of the definition of tampering.

656
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what we were talking about off the air, though,

657
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: is I think it's wonderful to like say, hey, you know,

658
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: we love this guy. We can't wait for him to

659
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: be here. It's a done deal. But he's a Green

660
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: Bay packer. He's not a Jet, you know, like, yeah,

661
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean you can coach Soman say Lamar Jackson's gonna

662
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: be a stealer, you know, you know, stones hear that stuff,

663
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: and it feels like the Jets are just competing against

664
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: their selves. I mean, if I'm the packers, I'm like, well,

665
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: that's gonna cost you an extra third round pick now, yeah, right,

666
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: what other options you have? Price? The price is the price.

667
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: You're either going to meet their price or you're not.

668
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what. I think they're giving

669
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: the packers too much power. Yes, you're negotiate right right right,

670
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: and you're walking into buy the new car you walked into.

671
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: I only want that one you walked into the dealership,

672
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: or you rode your bicycle when I said I really

673
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Speaker 1: need a car, and that's the only one in the lot,

674
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: and we're gonna take that one. Yeah, Well, what do

675
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: you think is gonna happen? And I gotta get to

676
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: my daughter's recycle in an hour. I got an hour

677
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: to get this deal done. Let's do the only one

678
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: on the lot I want. And I wanted to be

679
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: purple with green seats, you know, at least like the

680
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: card deally, you know, the salesman's cider going Okay, I

681
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: can pretty much charge this guy whatever I want. Whatever

682
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: I want, you're gonna pay full sticker and a little more, sir.

683
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: You know at this it seems like its but they

684
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: assigned Blizzard and made all these men yeah yeah, or

685
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: maybe in an hour. They say they traded two second

686
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: round picks for Rodgers. I mean, who knows. I think

687
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: that actually was part of the Elijah Moore deal? Is

688
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: I know that they burned bridges Elijah Moore and the Jets,

689
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: and I when I saw that deal, I thought maybe

690
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: the Jets are just taking their hand of playing cards

691
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: and shuffling them up so they have different stuff to offer.

692
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: That they wanted that extra third round pick, the two seconds,

693
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: yeah second, instead of hey, when we are not giving

694
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: you the first pick, but we'll give you two twos

695
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: in a conditional next year. That sounds a lot better

696
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: than a second third and a conditional next year. But

697
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean that was one of my thoughts was maybe

698
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: they're setting their itself up to make the off the

699
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: final offer to get Rogers. Yeah. McDermott said he's going

700
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: to call the Bill's defense. That. I mean, their defense

701
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: has been great without him being you know, and their

702
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: defense coordinator is well respected. He's done a great job

703
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: in his career. Um. I always think with head coaches

704
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: get involved your game day stuff. I think they're all

705
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: involved to it. Yeah. I mean, you know, you're gonna

706
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: do what the head coach wants you to do, and

707
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna have veto power over whatever you do. Yes,

708
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: but it's different calling plays because the second the ball

709
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: they blow the whistle on play number one, I gotta

710
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: get nickel win, I gotta get my pass rushers in

711
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: and here's the play call. And I'm not calling timeouts

712
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: or talking to my old line coach about my injured

713
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: left tackle or doing head coach stuff. You know. I

714
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: just think the job is head coach on game days.

715
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: Big enough as it is. Yeah, So we'll see how

716
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Speaker 1: how that goes. Um, it's looking here, Uh, Brandon Staley said,

717
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler has the respect of the Chargers, but he

718
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: is of course seeking a trade as well. There's profile profile,

719
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: high profile guys seeking trades here. It's funny if you

720
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: go back and look at Eckler's career earnings undrafted guy

721
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: to like Northern Colorado or something. If you're running back

722
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: in it, don't go in the first round, right, And

723
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: he's been phenomenal. It's the worst deal and like you're

724
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: gonna make like two million dollars when they beat the

725
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: heck out of you. Yeah, and then and then they say, well,

726
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: we don't want to pay you. Yeah, And they did

727
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: give him extension after making league minimum undrafted stuff. But

728
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: I think he's making like six million a year. He's

729
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: their most important player or Herbert's side, you know, he's

730
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: they've leaned on him. He's been way past expectations. He

731
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: deserves way more, and he probably won't get it. Like

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00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: I bet how this happens is, oh, these guys came

733
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: to a conclusion and they'll somehow give him a couple

734
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: million on the side and he'll be happy, or trade

735
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: him for a third round pick and draft b Jean

736
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: Robinson or Gibbs or you know. Yeah, it's just he's

737
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: up in eight. Yeah. I was gonna say, the problem

738
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: is that he's a little older than what people may think.

739
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's already twenty seven. He turns twenty eighth

740
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: in May. Yeah, so it's his year, twenty eighth season.

741
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: That's usually when you start looking at not paying. Twenty

742
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: seven's always the magic number. Yeah, Okay, it's gonna be

743
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: downhill from here. And he's not the biggest guy, and

744
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: they've done a really poor job despite some effort Spiller

745
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: and some of these other dudes, Kelly. They've used a

746
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: lot of fifth round picks on bigger backs to lighten

747
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: his load, but none of them have been good enough.

748
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: And here's the here's the problem. So, okay, last year

749
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 1: he catches one hundred and seven passes, scored like a million,

750
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: seven hundred and twenty two yards. He had eighteen touchdowns.

751
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: He had twelve touchdowns a year before twenty twenty. Overall,

752
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: with it, with what he does as a receiver, he's phenomenal.

753
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: If I'm looking at him, I'm looking at him at

754
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: like Christian McCaffrey, right light, maybe not even light, Yeah,

755
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: maybe the same tier maybe that same tier. But he

756
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: might be one of the best twenty football players on

757
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: the planet. Right, Yeah, he's never rushed for a thousand yards. Right,

758
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: he's a certain type. Yeah, but how many games does

759
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: he play? I know he stats, he's miss many. Last

760
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: year was seventeen, a year before was sixteen. It was

761
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: only ten and twenty twenty, but he played sixteen and

762
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I mean for a running back, he's been durable.

763
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: He's been durable. Yeah, I've been ultra productive. And he'll

764
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: never come close to making what he deserves. Yeah. Now

765
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that's scored thirty eight touchdowns

766
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: the last two seasons. Last two seasons, thirty eight touchdowns.

767
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: First pick and fantasy and he's gonna make nothing and

768
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: they trade him. I get a third round pick for

769
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: him or something. Yeah, I feel for him. Rarely do

770
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: I feel for athletes and whatever. But he's in a

771
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: terrible situation because he's a potential Hall of Famer. I mean,

772
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: like I got to stretch, but I mean his body

773
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: of work is tremendous and he's always outkicked his contract

774
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: by a mile. I mean, you can't mean he had

775
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: two hundred and four rushing attempts last year and one

776
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: hundred and seven catches. So he had three hundred and

777
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: eleven touches and found the end zone over twenty times

778
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: or four two right, I mean on an offense that

779
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: was struggling, and he was their most He was their

780
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: best offensive player without a doubt, including Herbert. Yeah, he

781
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: was their best player on offense. And he's not gonna

782
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: get anything for it. Yeah. I don't know what you

783
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: do with that, um, and I can understand his frustration

784
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: very Yeah. I mean it's one of the few times

785
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: where I'm like, man, that poor dude. I mean, he's

786
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: done way more than asked of him. But if you're

787
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: the Chargers, can you afford to let him go? No?

788
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: I mean because even let's say, let's say your draft

789
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: Bijean Robinson in the first round. Yeah, well then I

790
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: would let him go. Is he gonna catch one hundred

791
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: and seven passes for you next year? No? But at

792
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: least they've got a stud back for five years, you

793
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I get it, But you Gibs

794
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: or Yeah, so I know that one's I just think

795
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: the player is gonna get the short end the stick

796
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: with it said, balance I look at the running back position,

797
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: and there's got to be some kind of middle ground

798
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: there at that position that you can find where you know, no,

799
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: don't ever, don't ever draft one in the first round

800
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: unless he's this guy. Yeah, and don't ever pay him

801
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: on pay him. It just keeps going through well unless

802
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: he's this guy. I mean, no one seems to be

803
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: complaining about McCaffrey. And I think if you're a weapon,

804
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: a weapon like Eckler or McCaffrey, you're worth paying. I mean,

805
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: maybe not twenty million a year, you know, but more

806
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: than the franchise tag of ten or eleven. Yeah. I mean, well,

807
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: we haven't talked a ton about that. Man. Let's finish

808
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: up the show by doing this. The Steelers running back position. Yeah,

809
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: you've got Nagy Harris, You've got Jay Lemourne. I think

810
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: you've got your your one two punch. I think so

811
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: in terms of what you have there. Do you look

812
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: at Nagy Harris and say, what he did in the

813
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: second half of last season, that's who he is moving forward?

814
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: Or yeah? But I mean people everyone looks at Nagy like,

815
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, he's a young guy and he is this

816
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: is your three already? Yeah, yeah, I mean, like it

817
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: doesn't pretty soon it's you pick up the fifth year option.

818
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: Do you franchise him? You know? I mean, and he

819
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: didn't come in the league young. I mean, that's unfortunately

820
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: the nature of that position. They don't have a long

821
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: shelf life. My thoughts on the running back position is,

822
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: I like the top two, I'm still interested in what

823
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: McFarland might bring to the table. I would like to

824
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: add another, especially in a deep running back class, and

825
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: that might even be a priority free agent that you

826
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: should have got drafted but didn't this year, bringing two

827
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: of them like you did with Warren or whatever. I

828
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: just don't know if I want Snell or if I

829
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: want Sprowls. You know, like you're shorting Danny Smith. If

830
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: you don't give him a Snell as your third round

831
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: as your third back, that's a quality special team or

832
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: maybe even as Benny's now, but the team lacks explosion.

833
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind somebody like McFarlane, you know, being that

834
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: third guy too, that's also maybe a returner or you know,

835
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: get him five touches of a game as a satellite back.

836
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: So by what I saw last year of McFarlane in

837
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: the one game that he played the last year and

838
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: he was People need to understand he was. He was

839
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: on the practice squad and inactive on the you know,

840
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: wasn't on the fifty three man roster because of Benny

841
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: Snell special teams. It wasn't. He wasn't in the doghouse. No,

842
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think his stock's hired now than at

843
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: any point to stealer career. It very well. Maybe like

844
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: they trust him a little more and he understands how

845
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: to run in this league and you know he is talented. Yeah,

846
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's definitely something there, but they just

847
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: have to figure out how how to use him and

848
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: the special teams things big. I mean, if your third

849
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: back is not helping on special teams, you're you're shorting

850
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: your special teams quard. Yeah, because the problem then becomes

851
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: what happens if something were to happen to to Naji

852
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Harris with jay Len Warren's one of your core special

853
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: teams guys. Right, But if he's now you're leading off

854
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: special team. Yeah, if he's now your lead running back,

855
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: you're not gonna playhim with special teams. Man. Who's the

856
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: two and right? Right? I think that third back situation

857
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: is interesting, you know, and maybe you bring a banger

858
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: and a dynamic guy to camp that are undrafted or

859
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: late picks and just keep the best dudes and try

860
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: to keep the rest of the practice squad. Realize those

861
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: guys get hurt. Yeah, because you mean right now, Derek

862
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: Watts not on this team. Um, you know, Connor Heyward

863
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: can be an do stuff, can do as he can

864
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: play that special team's role. Yes, I know, Warren can

865
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: play that special team's role. Kill A Brew can play

866
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: that special team's role. But you also don't have the

867
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: boykin you know, right, you don't have that guy, and

868
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: those guys will find themselves, you know. Um, you know,

869
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: can Mark Robinson play a bigger role in that? In

870
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: that you would hope so and you would hope I

871
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: mean now you hope presumably you'll be active on week

872
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: one where he didn't get active to what like fifteen

873
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: or whatever this past Yeah. Um, I think bringing back

874
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: Pierre is huge in that regard. He was you know,

875
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: Killer Brew is going to probably make the team. Is

876
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: your fourth safety not your third, right and maybe that

877
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: third guy if it's your third round picks, a core

878
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: special team or safety probably a first round corner isn't

879
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: unless he's a gunner. Unless he's a gunner. Yeah, I

880
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: do think Roberts will be heavily involved in special Yeah.

881
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's done that a horse's career, right, Yeah.

882
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting that stuff always has to work

883
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: itself out down the road. Nobody thinks about that when

884
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: when signings are made or when te rosters are put together,

885
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: right right right? You know they just cut that. You

886
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: don't need that guy. You don't you cut that guy.

887
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: And Danny Smith's gonna go nuts, right he plays every

888
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: every special teams for you, you know, and I think

889
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: Boykin has a point to come back, you know. I mean,

890
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: is he a great receiver, No, but he doesn't kill you.

891
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: But he very good special team, very good special teams.

892
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: You really proved a lot of special teams. Yeah, so

893
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: you need you need to have those guys too. And

894
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: it's never a problem until it's a problem. I mean,

895
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: your fifth receiver, third running back, one of those two

896
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: has to be a special team or if not, both

897
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: yea and good at it and really good yeah, can

898
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: just be uh he's we put him out there, but

899
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: he's okay, but he can't really tackle on it, right,

900
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: or no, he'd better be really good at it, like

901
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: one of the best on the team. Yeah, and they

902
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: probably didn't do that in college. Yeah, but I feel

903
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: pretty good overall about you know what they have coming

904
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: back at running back. So yeah, you know, I think

905
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: and that might be next year's need though. I mean,

906
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: if you're already going into your four with Naji, when

907
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: we sit here a year from now, I might be like, well,

908
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: maybe they need a third round pick there. Yeah, I

909
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: don't know. Potentially LA does are pluging play though? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

910
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: I mean small potatoes. Yeah, it's nice now that you

911
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: have a year's difference between Warren and Harris, even though

912
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: they're basically the same age. Yeah. I don't think they'll

913
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: be big moves there. Probably not in the next three

914
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: or sixty five days either. Yeah, unless somebody gets hurt, right,

915
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: which I don't think they're trading for reckl though, or no,

916
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: that's not happening and it's appealing at right, Yeah. Or

917
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: rafting Jean Robinson, right, you know, we ran into that

918
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: with a mock draft that we did last week or

919
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. We get to the second round and

920
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: Jean Robinson's there, third tho. I mean he's by far

921
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: the best player is still available. But I think you

922
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: look at that and say, well then maybe three extra teams.

923
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: Somebody else is calling you, right right, right, so Dallas

924
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: or whoever. Yeah, I mean that's not it's it's don't

925
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: make your kids whorew up to be running backs, which

926
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: is crazy. It's crazy, and like that's where you want

927
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: your kids. You know, you're on the high school all

928
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: my songs getting the ball more than anybody else, or

929
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: you know, back when we were growing up, there was

930
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: always a backdraft in the top five. Yeah, yeah, you're

931
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: superstar Marcus Allen Dickerson, all those type of dudes or

932
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: high pick store set, you know, as how they might

933
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: not be first. Crazy, that's gonna do it for the show. Yeah,

934
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