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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: and John Oshan. The Huddle Up Podcast starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in to a special edition of the Huddle Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: On a Friday afternoon, February fourth, JP Shadrick, Jaguars dot

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Speaker 1: Com senior writer John Osier, and NFL network analysts Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: we react to the hiring of Doug Peterson as the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars head coach. The announcement expected officially the presentation at

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Speaker 1: least on Saturday. At first, it's good to have the

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Speaker 1: band back together after about a month or so away. John, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's quite a band, and today will be again deferring

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Speaker 1: to our lead singer, Bucky brook Yeah, Bucky, you've you've

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Speaker 1: been all over the television lately, but welcome back. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's fun, it's fun to get back. It's fun to

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Speaker 1: have everything, I guess kind of tidied up, coaching search

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Speaker 1: wrapped up, so we can talk about the Jaguars and

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Speaker 1: where they going to, can kind of put the piece

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Speaker 1: of the puzzle together. Well, the one of the big

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Speaker 1: pieces of the puzzle is now a mystery no more.

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson now the seventh full time head coach in

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Speaker 1: Jaguar's history. We know his run in Philadelphia as the

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Speaker 1: head coach there after the season the Eagles won Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl fifty two. Peterson was out of football last year.

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Speaker 1: He's back in now, Bucky, and he brings a track

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Speaker 1: record of success in his numerous stops around the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he brings instant credibility to the job. Um. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's really important that, UM, when you when you're

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Speaker 1: thinking about the job and finding the right candidate to

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Speaker 1: feel the job that this was not necessarily um on

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Speaker 1: the job training, that it wasn't someone's first time first rodeo. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The job is a big job and you needed someone

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Speaker 1: who's kind of done it before. Uh. It helps that

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson has won a Super Bowl, so we know

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Speaker 1: that he has a plan that's been successful at the

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Speaker 1: I think from a personality stamp point, he's a connector.

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Speaker 1: He's a great communicator. He doesn't dreak a great job

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Speaker 1: of really connecting not only like from coach to player,

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Speaker 1: I think given what we experienced last year. You needed

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Speaker 1: someone who could repair all of the broken trust while

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Speaker 1: also having a plan to get the football players to

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Speaker 1: play at a high level on the field. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: always dangerous in this situation, JP to say this is

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Speaker 1: the guy you wanted all along, because everyone goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: of course it was. And you know, I loved the idea.

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Speaker 1: Jim Calledwell because I knew him. But the two guys

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Speaker 1: mean maybe the big difference was age. You know, Jim

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Speaker 1: that made so much sense the head coach experience. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is exactly what we were thinking about. It went

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Speaker 1: So UM, I'm curious JPN, and we get into this.

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Speaker 1: I know Bucky played with Doug, I believe, and knows

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Speaker 1: This is not the day to slam on what went

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Speaker 1: before JP. But overall, I don't think you're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Huddle Up Podcast. J P Shadrick, John Osier, and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson announced as the Jaguars head coach. The introduction

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Speaker 1: we'll have it on Jaguars dot com. Well, we discussed

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Speaker 1: into play at the National Football League club, well, two things. JP.

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